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Unless they believe that is what happened, that people in TRP said that to him, there is no way they will take any responsibility for their toxic ideas. "You prove the Red Pill literally told Rodger to murder or you haven't got an argument".
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/14 01:35 PM
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Firstly, whether something is sexual harassment does not depend on how attractive a man is. It's perfectly possible to be creeped out by an objectively attractive person who doesn't respect your boundaries. Secondly, it does not necessarily follow that a woman, perceiving that she is in a vulnerable situation alone with a man who has manipulated her into going back to his house when she didn't want to (something which several TRPers have endorsed as a strategy) will feel free to tell him that sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/14 05:19 AM
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My specific question was about TRP behaviour as a whole, rather than just PUA. And the specific word I used was "abusive" rather than "rapey". But yes, the example you gave of the PUA Kickstarter was a good one. To respond to your earlier point about your business trip, from your account it seems like you both had a good rapport, clear agreement that she would come to your room and clear signals that she was happy with how things were going. That is not presupposed in the PUA kickstarter, and ne…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/14 04:08 AM
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I've just checked the original text and he actually said "pull your cock out and put her hand on it". He also advocates ignoring all signals, both positive or negative and assuming that the woman will be down with whatever you want to do, and pushing things to the point where she actively has to tell you to fuck off. Which she may not feel is a safe thing to do, if she is alone with you at your house.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/14 12:02 AM
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Whatever TBP thinks, do you really not think any of the behaviour described by TRPers, when taken at face value, is abusive in any way? What would make you think something was abusive?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/14 11:01 PM
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All those are potentially perfectly reasonable interpretations of those actions as abusive behaviour (depending on the specific circumstances in each case) and they would not only be made by TBPers or feminists. You disagree, I can see that. Well it takes all sorts to make a world, so not sure what point you're actually trying to make.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/14 10:44 PM
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Of course it's a double standard. It doesn't stop at being a preference, it's a judgement against those women who don't conform.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/14 09:38 PM
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So it's ok for TBP to continue to call out abusive behaviour? Great, I'm glad we agree. Because I thought you were claiming that absolutely all relationships where there is a power imbalance are D/s in the BDSM sense, no matter how abusive or exploitative? Evidently I misunderstood. 50 Shades of Grey is awful, and clearly depicts an abusive relationship. I can understand why some feminists have a problem with it being a massive bestseller. Personally, I don't think most women who read it took it…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/14 08:46 PM
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So how about when TBP calls out an actual real life rapist or abuser? Are they just "Dom-shaming" then? Given that all relationships with a power imbalance are BDSM, natch? And btw, have you actually read 50 Shades of Grey?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/14 08:06 PM
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That's great. You did get my point, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/14 07:02 PM
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And I find your need to ridicule/hate TBP for ridiculing/hating TRP also deserving of contempt and ridicule. And around and around we go. What great insight are you providing?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/14 06:38 PM
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Is the entire population of Saudi Arabia practising BDSM?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/14 06:28 PM
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As has been repeatedly pointed out to you but which you have repeatedly failed to engage with, the problem most people have with TRP is that from their echo chamber they attempt to extend their anecdotally supported beliefs about male/female relations to the entire population, backed up by arguably spurious evo-psych rationales about what they believe our biology determines ALL men and women desire and need. Some people get frustrated and angry with them, some people point and laugh. Many people…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/14 05:58 PM
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No but such a dishonest spin makes his argument sound way more reasonable than it is. Poor little TRPers, being stalked and shamed by TBP for being less sexually attractive! It's exactly like homophobia! They're just fighting eeeevil oppression!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/14 05:41 PM
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