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I've literally heard men say every single one of your examples. Good for them. It's good to have standards, especially around things that drastically and negatively affect your life if you choose to date someone who doesn't meet them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 12:23 AM
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It's not at all what you're going for with this but I've always found it striking that a lot of the behaviors terps claim are common among women aren't actually particularly common -- but are a lot more common among women with sexual trauma. Sexual trauma can cause both hypo- and hypersexuality, which can last for varying periods of time. Sexual abuse at the hands of a family member/someone extremely close to the victim often causes an effect where the victim feels much more comfortable being se…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 07:35 PM
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And a lot of it is because women are more likely to be concerned about effect on the person who discovers the body.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 07:07 PM
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What you're missing here is that body positivity was never really about attraction. Boiling the whole movement down to "find fat girls sexy or else!!" is a massive straw man.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 07:00 PM
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Yes, and that's why it's a good thing for people to have options.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 09:16 PM
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What do you mean by "way too many"? It's a good thing when two people who are incompatible for the long term don't end up together long term. People make better decisions when they aren't desperate. So why isn't her not being desperate a good thing? It's preventing a shitty outcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 03:02 AM
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I've never had a partner I was seriously concerned would cheat on me and I am not a particularly jealous person in general, so dating hot guys hasn't really been a source of anxiety in my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 08:43 PM
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I'm always happier when I don't have anything in my life making me anxious. It's part of the thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 08:24 PM
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Imagining men posting videos on Instagram mimicking motions of sexual acts like pounding someone or masturbating, taking pictures of their behinds or their dick prints and being half naked in every music video just seems intrusive to me. They do tho? Like if you've ever watched a male standup comedian talk about sex they all do this thing where they physically demonstrate thrusting. Male celebrities post thirst traps all the time, and calculate their image to be sexually appealing. I dunno if "e…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 07:18 PM
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Lots of attractive men are nice. So are less attractive men. Asshole behavior and attractiveness don't corollate at all in my experience. I was in a relationship with a guy who was less attractive than me but I was still attracted to him. He let himself go during the relationship and got much uglier and also became kind of a dick. I'm not sure the two things were at all related but I got into a relationship with a pretty cute guy who was super sweet to me and dumped a jerky fatty. If anything th…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 05:32 PM
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Yes, but I'd also chase him and would expect assistance rather than rescue. I'd expect the same from a female friend tbh. And I'd do it too if I were the friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 05:26 PM
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I do date younger but gosh there are limits.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 08:20 AM
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I understand men pretty well. Low-intelligence men think all their feelings are objective facts. All you have to do is give them an emotion and they'll turn it into a deeply held opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 04:24 PM
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No offense but that's insane? You could just... not contact the people. Have some self-control. I would never make that demand of a partner and if a partner made that demand of me I'd consider him controlling.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 03:27 PM
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I mean, yeah? I'm in a monogamous relationship and have my former FWBs numbers in my phone. So does my boyfriend. It's never occurred to either of us to be upset about it. That's wildly fucking neurotic. It's not like either of us need the phone number of a previous sexual partner to get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 02:56 PM
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lol nope, that is not true
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 02:49 PM
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Tyler should handle his shit and not wreck a good thing by acting like a dumb little bitch. Amanda should dump his ass if he fails at not acting like a dumb little bitch. I would dump someone immediately if me merely having a phone number were cause for alarm.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 02:58 AM
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I feel like you're responding to a story you made up in your head rather than anything I'm actually saying. It's easy to say "well of course I will support her and be there for her" until you find yourself constantly playing therapist to someone who lets her mental health problems run her life and doesn't seek actual help and doesn't have the emotional resources to return the favor when you're the one who needs support.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 08:25 PM
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Yeah, but you'll be attracted to people you didn't think you ever would be and you'll date people who have traits you previously thought were dealbreakers for a serious relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 08:20 PM
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Everyone has their moments of insecurity, a reasonable person who cares about their partner will deal with it, that's not what I'm talking about. Do you want to date an insecure person who needs constant reassurance?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 08:05 PM
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Yes, but I feel like that's true about everyone. No one knows what they want. You meet someone awesome and you have a great time together and you might just throw out some of those standards. You can spin this as "settling" or "breaking rules for Chad" or whatever but also it's healthy and reasonable to reevaluate your needs based on new information. And sometimes that information is "this thing I thought was a dealbreaker doesn't actually bother me as much as I expected." Honestly it's striking…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 08:04 PM
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Nah, it's just that the alternative is annoying as shit. You don't want to be with an insecure woman who needs constant validation and reassurance, either. You might choose to tolerate it but all things being equal you'd prefer you didn't have to. Actually wanting an unconfident partner is one of the biggest red flags I can imagine. ETA: if you're downvoting me I assume it's because you want an insecure partner you can easily manipulate and you just don't like to admit your reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 07:50 PM
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She already wasted all that time enduring your company.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 10:44 PM
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When someone’s love language is ‘gifts and acts of service’, that sounds like entitlement to me, no matter the gender. Every "love language" sounds like entitlement taken out of context. You can act "entitled" about physical touch and quality time, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 08:06 PM
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She's gotta be in a relationship with some boring loser she doesn't want to fuck when she could be single and getting railed by hotties.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 07:55 PM
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It doesn't offer more than a real life conversation but it usually offers more than a guy coming up to me on the street and opening with "hey can I buy you a drink?"
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 05:23 PM
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Theory: If you're trying to sell the cow, don't give away the milk for free. Corollary: if you don't give a shit about selling the cow, give away as much milk as you like. Anyway it's all bullshit, Jenny would be better off filtering out men who are sexually incompatible/would judge her for having sex too early, but you can't terrify women about the theory and expect them to be unaffected by it, or unable to realize the obvious corollary. I also don't believe this happens nearly as often or to t…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 01:00 AM
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I've never said yes to anyone who approached me on the street and asked me out, although frankly it's because I've never been actually interested in any of those guys. I've said yes to people on OLD who asked me out immediately because I was interested in them and liked their profile -- which often offers more info than you can get from passing someone in the street. I've said yes to people after fairly brief interactions both in person and online. I have been a sex worker for over a decade, my …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 08:57 PM
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I mean the entire premise of this post is concern over being labeled "a jerk" so. Anyway if you want to go around being a shitty person I can't stop you but don't expect people to validate your choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 03:45 AM
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Is this a gendered thing? Because there are also frequent threads here whining about multidating like it's something only eeeeeevil slutty women do. Multidating is fine and fun, just be honest about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 05:55 PM
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Just be honest about it??? Like fucking duh, idk how on earth that's a difficult thing to figure out. Like all you have to do is say the actual words, "I am not looking for a relationship right now." "Oh but then I might not get laid as much" Yeah, sometimes not being a jerk requires sacrifices, like not manipulating women into thinking your relationship is something it's not in order to get a few more crumbs of pussy. Grow up.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 05:01 PM
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Which places, exactly, have these laws? In places where a name can be taken off a birth certificate, do you agree that men who ask for paternity tests without good reasons are dickbags? Moot point because I'm never having kids, but if a man asked me for a paternity test without good reason he'd be getting dumped on the spot. If I later found out he'd got one behind my back, I wouldn't be nearly as mad. He dealt with his irrational fear in a way that didn't impact me. Good for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 09:24 PM
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This isn't true. In most places you can get out of it after signing the birth certificate if the kid turns out not to be yours. It's a legal headache, not an impossibility. You're not accusing your faithful wife of cheating to avoid 18 years of child support -- you're doing it to avoid some time and paperwork. Very different stakes. Just don't be fucking sloppy about it, gosh.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 08:40 PM
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For me, yeah. Not universally.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 07:23 PM
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I like to get railed but hate to get dominated. They're different. My partner is the best fuck of my life and he absolutely rails me but it's extremely clear that I'm the domme there. He's often wearing a leash and I torture him during. If you want to argue that I'm a weird freak, sure, but it's cool how you just acknowledged that different people like different things. The main thing the best sexual partners of my life all have in common is that they went down on me a bunch, which isn't exactly…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 07:08 PM
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Probably actually a pretty good option for casual -- most women I know who regularly date much younger men do so precisely because they don't want a relationship. If/when they do pursue a relationship it's typically with someone a bit closer in age. There are exceptions, obviously, but the caution against big age gap relationships still applies regardless of the genders involved -- in your early twenties, a much older person willing to date you seriously might not have the best motives.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 02:02 AM
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All of this is complete bullshit. Get off the internet, touch grass, and stop letting a bunch of nasty nerds ruin your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 09:18 PM
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Speak for yourself, I definitely have a type.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 04:52 AM
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You're missing what he's saying. You can appeal very strongly to a small group or less strongly to a larger group. In dating, the former is always better because someone who thinks you're "kinda cute" will always chose the guy she thinks is "super hot." If you choose a specific subculture and lean into it hard, women in that subculture will find you wildly more attractive than they would otherwise and you can do well by dating within that subculture. You'll be turning off a lot of women, but the…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 12:55 AM
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Okay, if it's just a "just world fallacy" than why does every single dude who posts an "average guys like me are disadvantaged" screed turn eventually reveal that he's an incredibly fucked up and maladjusted person?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 05:20 PM
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I believe those men exist! I just don't believe they're the same ones posting the "average guys like me are disadvantaged" screeds on PPD. And I don't believe they have the same level of struggle as the guys who post those screeds, because they aren't nearly as shitty as those guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 06:23 AM
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"Is having a phone number for someone you never communicate with cheating, actually?" Incredibly neurotic shit, even for PPD.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 06:22 AM
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Yeah, pretty much. At that point it's more dependent on how much effort they're putting in and how willing they are to dumpster dive than their respective genders.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 11:06 PM
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Literally any woman can get sexual attention. I love dating apps and think they're great but the friendless-by-choice crowd is always going to have a terrible time getting actual romantic relationships. For good reason tbh, they are not good prospects and should be avoided.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 09:34 PM
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No, I think the guys on this sub are deeply undesirable men who think of themselves as "average" because it's easier to rail against the system than admit that they're actually well below average. My favorite PPD cliché is the "average guys like me are unfairly disadvantaged" post by someone who clearly has something deeply wrong with them. The most recent one I can recall was this "average guy" who hates the entire concept of having friends. Dating is hard in general. A lot of whining about it …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 07:09 PM
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If she likes you she may be afraid that you'll judge her or lose interest if she has sex with you too fast. No one likes it when I say this, but it's a valid fear -- I've heard men straight-up admit to it. Some men will happily have first date sex and then discard the woman or fuckzone her because she slept with them too quickly and is therefore not "relationship material." I've heard other guys who weren't judgmental about it at all admit they'd just "lose interest" for reasons they understood …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 07:24 PM
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men don't ever have the luxury of having all of their requirements meet or being able to wait. Losers don't have that luxury. Happily single people -- and I mean genuinely happily single, enjoying themselves, not just the ones who are "happily single" -- can and will wait til they meet someone who checks enough of their boxes. I'm not on the side of people bitching about their dating problems here. Most people who whine a lot about dating are just spoiled children mad they can't get their dream …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 09:14 PM
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"Wanting a relationship" does not equal "wanting a committed relationship with literally anyone who will agree to one." Assuming you are a sane and well-adjusted person, it means "wanting a relationship that will make you happy and satisfied." So why waste your time on people who won't make you happy and satisfied?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 06:32 PM
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Someone doesn't understand anything at all about kink.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 06:03 PM
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Fetishization of jealousy/partner sharing is incredibly common in human sexuality and people who embrace it are often pretty secure in themselves. It's a fetish, not a statement of value. The way cuckoldry is a boogeyman for rightwingers is hilarious -- and google searches suggest that's more about self-loathing than anything else. tldr: calm tf down.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 04:46 PM
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I mean all those things sound hot, what's the problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 06:36 AM
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It's not the same thing, not by a long shot, but so what if it is? Do you think clutching your pearls about the sexy, slippery slope to cuckolding is going to make those men enjoy it any less? Why should they or their partners care what you think?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 06:19 AM
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I don't believe that women are en masse criticizing men for ending friendships over an unrequited crush. That's a bit of a straw man. It's normal to be sad over the loss of a valued friendship, regardless of why it ended, and someone who feels that way may attempt to repair the friendship even if it's not the best idea -- if you're reading that natural reaction as "ew men bad" that's on you. I think most people are pretty understanding that it's a sad situation all around. If you choose to act h…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 04:03 PM
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The idea that only attractive men catcall is total fucking baloney. I have spent my entire life being catcalled regularly and... no. It's 100% true that attractive men commit sexual violence, it's just also true that ugly guys do it too. Honestly I don't think there's much difference in the rates, although they might use different strategies.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 09:22 PM
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I require oral sex but it's not particularly difficult. I kick guys out if they don't eat pussy, but most of them go right for it. I think it's difficult for you to develop feelings while sleeping with someone else. I don't have that issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 10:54 PM
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Like I said, "sweep me tf off my feet" is an option, and it's an option two of my more serious boyfriends took. We were spending all our time together immediately so I didn't have room in my schedule for other men. When my boyfriend and I met we were both fresh off big breakups and not looking for anything serious. We were hooking up with each other and other people for a while, until it became clear we had feelings for each other. Neither of us is entirely sure who our last "outside partner" wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 10:33 PM
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This is 100% how I viewed older men when I was in my early twenties. My friends who dated them liked them because they had their own apartments and could buy dinner. I made decent money so couldn't be bothered with them unless they were hot. Hot as in "actually physically attractive" and frankly my standards were much higher for them than for guys my own age.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 10:24 PM
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I'm not single. I meant to take six months off after my last breakup but made it four. Three, if we're being real. This is by far the shortest gap I've ever had between relationships. Last one was two years, before that my memory gets fuzzy but they weren't exactly short. I like being single and prefer to take some time after breakups so those time spans were at least partly by choice. I've never been celibate for any significant length of time, and I likely never will be. Anyone who wants to da…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 09:05 PM
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I feel horrible for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 12:03 AM
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If I found out someone I was married to posted something like this about me I would divorce him instantly.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 11:44 PM
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That's not a clarification. It's an incorrect use of a term you don't understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 07:36 PM
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How is it entitled to not fuck or date people who aren't satisfying you?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 06:37 PM
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Cute and uncomplicated.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 01:11 AM
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lol probably
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 12:03 AM
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No. I like himbos. They can't be super dumb for a relationship but it doesn't hugely matter for casual. ETA: genuinely confused by the downvote.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 09:10 PM
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That's not at all how brains work! It just sounds sciencey so you believe it! So-called "porn addiction" actually covers a bunch of different issues which require different treatments. OCD and depression are two common causes and neither one is fixed by abstaining from porn. People are much likelier to identify as "porn addicts" if they are kinky, not entirely straight, or from a religious background, and often these people have completely normal use. Their only issue is sexual shame. Lastly you…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 07:41 PM
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Porn addiction doesn't work at all like substance addiction. The term "porn addiction" is itself highly controversial for that reason, with many researchers considering it wildly inaccurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 06:34 PM
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Really depends on whether they want the sex or the validation. Lots of celibate men never see sex workers and lots of clients of sex workers are men who have unpaid sex regularly. If someone's desire is primarily for validation I'd tell them to work on themselves and focus on forming strong friendships. Even if it doesn't get them laid they'll still end up better than they started. If someone's desire is primarily for sex, sex workers are a great idea. I also think they're a good option for nerv…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 05:47 PM
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It's phrenology in that it's junk science and it's not real. There are unhealthy ways to use porn and masturbation -- but going to the NoFap idiots to help you with your issue is basically like calling your local MLM essential oil sales person about your broken leg.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 05:00 PM
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All of the stuff you're repeating is basically just phrenology.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 08:52 AM
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Promotion of harmful junk science around "porn addiction." Like porn doesn't cause ED. No one has ever proved that, some studies actively contradict it. And they all take it as fact! So do you! Anyway it's all bullshit propaganda designed by evangelicals to encourage unhealthy levels of sexual shame.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 03:02 PM
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It's not cowardly or disrespectful, it's normal socially acceptable way to turn someone down and demanding an explanation and formal termination after two dates is utterly childish behavior. Most people who are allegedly mad about ghosting are actually just mad about being rejected at all -- I'm guessing that's why you're arguing with me on a 2 month old thread. I'm uninterested in continuing this conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 03:00 PM
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Ghosting is a valid way to express that you are no longer interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 01:21 AM
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I don't think I've ever seen it? Most of my friends (myself included) like casual sex and will hook up with everyone quickly, regardless of whether they want it to lead to more. The ones who don't do casual sex make everyone wait.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 07:00 PM
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The NoFap boys are still fucknuts for myriad reasons, but ty for that clarification.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 01:53 AM
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The men who admitted this to me had no complaints about the sex itself -- just that it happened too easily and they lost interest. And lots of men suck in bed too, even if you're willing and able to give instructions.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 10:36 PM
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It totally happens but it's wildly overblown here. I don't do it and I don't know anyone who does. It seems to be rooted in sexual shame -- these women can't feel comfortable being sexual with someone they actually care about, who might judge them. But it's also rooted in reality -- a lot of men do lose interest if sex happens too soon. I've heard men openly admit to this, don't tell me it's not real. Interestingly, in female pickup the line is not an arbitrary amount of time but the point at wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 08:56 PM
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The NoFap guys are full of shit -- masturbation actually raises testosterone, albeit temporarily and by a very small amount. Obviously I don't know you and couldn't know this even if I did, but some of the language you've used in this post makes me wonder if you might be transgender. Or this is just your personality and your particular set of likes and you're overthinking everything. You can get your testosterone levels checked -- usually low sex drive is the sign that something's wrong although…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 06:20 PM
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From the article: Sexual risk-taking is a common phenomenon, with women reporting greater willingness to risk pregnancy with physically attractive men, and men who show commitment, good financial prospects, as well as moderate to high social status.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 06:59 PM
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Vasectomies are not reliably reversible, so if you're dating women who want kids it would have the opposite effect. As a woman who does not want kids, I would find it appealing. It shows that you're willing to take responsibility for your own birth control, and also reassures me that you won't change your mind down the line.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 06:54 PM
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I've literally never had that issue. I did not grow up religious in any way, which might be why.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 05:56 PM
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For me the point is to have a fun experience and all this very nearly guarantees it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 01:36 AM
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Not really, and it's honestly pretty silly that you consider all of this to be "lots" of vetting and conditions.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 01:22 AM
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Doing this is actually how I've met all my serious boyfriends. And also there have been times when I didn't want a relationship or celibacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 12:41 AM
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Why not? I didn't, which is why I eventually developed these rules, but if I'd had them earlier I 100% could have enforced them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 11:08 PM
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The world's tiniest violin weeps for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 11:07 PM
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Meh. You can have a lot of fun having casual sex as a woman. I certainly did when I was single. The rules are: Be very careful messing around with much older men at least until you're in your mid/late twenties or so, as they tend to be manipulative. Younger men (like college age) aren't as good at sex, so maybe wait a few years unless you're like, painfully horny or they come with good references. Only have casual sex with men you actually enjoy as people and who seem to enjoy you. I don't mean …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 08:46 PM
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I love tattoos on men and they don't even have to be good as long as they're not totally embarrassing.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 08:47 PM
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I've always said the actual definition of a "bad boy" is just "blue collar, parties sometimes" so this checks out.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 07:14 PM
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Invented by the religious right, negative effects of porn "proven" mostly by studies done on highly religious men who believe that masturbating will send them to hell and understandably feel very stressed about that. Stripped of religious language, replaced with pseudoscience, a bunch of scammers including Gary Wilson have made big money promising to "cure" men who are mostly just suffering from sexual shame. There's literally no proof of a link between pornography use and ED and yet everyone se…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 11:58 PM
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Porn addiction is fake.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 11:13 PM
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So as a man who has been tragically forced to lower your standards and can't imagine caring about the personality of a casual partner, why do you think that you have anything relevant to say about the preferences of men who actually do have a lot of casual sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 11:12 PM
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Well yeah, but in the religions that do there's no religion where you can say "okay I sinned a bunch, now I'm just going to continue sinning and it's okay because I was already doing it."
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 11:01 PM
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That's not how Christianity works.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 06:00 PM
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Okay but you opened with an argument that is objectively wrong and now you're just backpedaling about how you totally have sex, you swear, you just have no fucking standards and you don't think anyone else does either.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 05:58 PM
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Okay, let's put this another way: If you understand nothing about how casual sex actually works and you personally are so desperate you can't even imagine having standards, perhaps you are not exactly qualified to opine on the motivations and desires of men who actually get laid?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 05:32 PM
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Most people who have casual sex spend some amount of time socializing with each other, that's just normal?? Anyway you're incel posting now, which is banned here and pointless to interact with anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 08:09 AM
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No living man who has successful ONS and FWB arrangements is thinking "Gee, I wish I had more in common with these hot women who are willing to fuck me.". That made me think you're not a man. Guys who aren't terrified of missing out on the only crumb of pussy that will ever come their way actually do care about those things, in general. If you feel confident in your ability to get laid consistently why waste time on someone who annoys the shit out of you? Escorts have to do a great deal of perso…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 02:09 AM
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She got stuck with $6 million in legal fees which is a pretty good excuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 04:23 PM
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If this is true then we shouldn't allow them to consent to sex or relationships at all. According to your theory they don't have any more ability to make those decisions than a toddler. We should shuffle them off to adult daycares and content ourselves with vibrators and lesbianism.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 07:54 PM
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BPD is over diagnosed in women. PTSD in particular tends to get diagnosed as BPD. OCD, bipolar, anxiety and depression also get diagnosed as BPD if the patient fits a certain demographic.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 07:55 PM
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The trick is to not care much. Assume that the people who are compatible with you will like you and go from there.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 06:55 PM
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Yeah, if you're stressed out by the prospect of socializing with someone you barely know you're not gonna have fun. If you're someone who can enjoy that you'll probably have a decent time even if the date goes nowhere, assuming the other person doesn't totally suck. A lot of complaints about dating boil down to "I don't feel comfortable talking to strangers" which is a fair complaint but like, it's also the whole point unless you're someone who exclusively dates friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 06:19 PM
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Yes, I liked dating a lot when I was single. I think the trick is to focus more on having fun than on "being successful." It also helps if you're not super specific in what you're looking for -- very relationship-oriented women and very casual-oriented men seem to have the worst time.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 05:45 PM
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If you're a complete gold digger and you're not actually attracted to the man then anything that extends your sexual encounters is going to annoy you. You're either cheating on him with someone who actually pleases you, or you're just not very sexual and you're fine giving up satisfying sex in order to reap the benefits of his wealth. If you meet someone you like and find attractive and he just happens to be rich... you're not gonna continue that relationship if it means putting up with bad sex …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 07:58 PM
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People who have gone through bitter breakups tend to downplay the good parts of the relationship. I don't trust them either. I don't even trust myself -- my last relationship was great for a couple years before things went very south but looking back I can hardly remember the good times and I know they were pretty fucking good. You know how when you dislike someone everything they do annoys you? Even completely benign stuff that you wouldn't think twice about if it were anyone else? People absol…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 06:08 PM
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I don't think attractive people are any better or worse than ugly or average people in relationships. Honestly one of the biggest myths I see terps regurgitate and it feels more like a power fantasy than anything else. Like a bunch of bitter men are fantasizing about how they'd treat women if only they could get away with it, and they assume attractive men all feel the exact same way. I also think trauma is underplayed. I see this with a lot of the behaviors redpillers claim are extremely common…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 06:47 PM
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I constantly mix up John Stamos and Jerry O'Connell -- she's definitely got a type. They're both handsome successful actors with a similar look, seems more like this incredibly beautiful and wealthy woman just got exactly what she wanted and she got it twice.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 01:13 AM
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I don't exclusively do it with casual partners, I just do it more with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 08:43 PM
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Right? Like if a man wouldn't get called a simp by a bunch of internet misogynists I do not want him!!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 06:18 PM
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So what? If they please me I don't care. This is also something I've traditionally done when I was more interested in casual anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 06:17 PM
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I love cucks, actually. The demographic is guys who are sexually open in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 06:16 PM
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Yes, but if I do it that way it won't scare off the guys I want to scare off.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 09:09 AM
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It's not hot to you. I don't want you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 07:08 AM
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Hint.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 05:42 AM
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"I am a sexual person and would like to be sexual with you." Doesn't do it for everyone, but again, the filtering was part of the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 05:29 AM
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When I've done this it was one part come-on, one part filtering for the guys who did find it attractive, because they're more fun in general and more compatible for serious.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 05:00 AM
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It's a completely normal and reasonable thing that almost everyone does but when women do it the guys here call it AF/BB and insist that it's actually evil.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 05:10 PM
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I love the posts where some guy uses himself as an example of how "average guys" have a terrible time dating and then is just like "yeah I hate socializing and think friendships are stupid." Like bro you're not "average" and no shit you're not having amazing romantic success, you are literally doing the exact things that inhibit romantic success and taking them to an extreme.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 07:09 PM
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She wasn't fat, IIRC, although I have no idea what she looked like pre-pregnancy. They were both fairly average-looking people when I knew them, honestly very evenly matched in that respect. He never blamed her appearance and neither of them had any major health problems. The way he talked about her was usually pretty positive outside of the sex stuff. He said he just stopped being attracted to her when she was pregnant and literally never had sex with her again. Seems like textbook Madonna-whor…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 09:38 PM
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Knew a guy who stopped having sex with his wife as soon as they had a kid and routinely cheated on her with escorts. He was pretty open about the fact that he was the one who'd lost interest in sex and that she wasn't happy about it but he saw her as a "solid life partner" and didn't want to give that up. He was a very loving, involved father with a heavy workload that would have made split custody difficult to handle, which I suspect was also a factor. I felt terrible for her, I hope she was ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 08:16 PM
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Brad Pitt looked hot as shit in Fight Club and the examples you posted are guys I find "too much" even as someone with a strong preference for very fit men. I've dated a bunch of them, a handful longterm enough that I had a pretty good idea of what they were doing to maintain that. It certainly wasn't nothing but it wasn't anywhere near "Marvel action hero" levels. They worked out regularly and ate pretty healthy most of the time. And they all got a ton of attention for it. Obviously genetics/ph…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 08:00 AM
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I literally don't care about my bodycount. When I'm single I try to have three men in rotation and I sleep with all of them. I'm open about myself and what I'm like. I don't want to deal with some uptight prude who's gonna freak out that I've had more sex than him, so I intentionally filter those guys out. The fuckboys don't bother playing games because they're already getting what they want from me -- and as long as they're pleasing me and not annoying me, I'm fine with that. Eventually one of …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 02:25 AM
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But you don't know why, nor do you understand the process by which they decided you were attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 10:42 PM
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That does not count. I'm talking about men you've have sex with with, or better yet had a longer term sexual relationship in which they felt comfortable sharing their turn-ons with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 10:36 PM
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Those are common but by no means universal, plus different men rate them differently, have different standards for what constitutes a pretty face or a shapely tit and lots of men are aroused by intangibles that you're not even thinking about. Again, how many guys have you slept with?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 10:28 PM
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You absolutely do not. How many guys have you slept with?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 10:22 PM
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Physical attraction is immediate, but I can still be extremely turned off or on by someone's personality and other intangibles to the point where it will drastically affect the level of attraction I feel for them. There's a lot of idiosyncratic sex stuff that affects it -- one time I was on the fence about a guy until he told me that he used to be a Catholic missionary at which point I was suddenly extremely aroused. I've been way more into men I wasn't that initially attracted to upon learning …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 08:29 PM
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Because women are in fact different from each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 08:02 PM
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Soooooo much complaining about "the dating market today" seems to be from people who are mad they can't just get their ideal sexual/romantic life at the snap of a finger. Finding someone (or multiple someones) who you like who want the same thing you want and want it with you is just one of those things that is fundamentally not easy. Being hot helps, but even hot people struggle sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 08:01 PM
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Some of these are not even real problems and the ones that are real aren't affecting people on the scale you seem to think. The "dating scene" is fine. Y'all just love to complain.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 05:35 PM
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Not really.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 08:22 PM
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He's been caught in several lies as well. Y'all just don't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 08:16 PM
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A lot of Depp's allegations are based on no proof beyond his own testimony -- which is very normal in cases like this. They both sound like messy people, chances are high they're both telling at least a partial truth. Her allegations are getting put under a microscope by people absolutely desperate to believe that she is lying. His are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 07:51 PM
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Here's a decent summary of all the accusations on both sides.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 06:41 PM
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I'm not gonna go to that much trouble but Depp's assistant and Heard's makeup artist both confirmed some of her story.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 06:11 PM
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Witness testimony, mostly. Did you look at the UK decision at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 02:20 AM
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I liked the Pirates movies too, I didn't lose my entire damn mind about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 02:19 AM
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You don't get to decide that a man many many women are attracted to isn't attractive! That's not how that works!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 01:34 AM
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You don't actually know that. Him dragging her through courts for years isn't "acting like a victim"??? In what world????? She's lost a ton of work too. He was doing basically fine, despite being famously difficult on set.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 01:31 AM
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Check out the official documents from the UK case. Y'all like to pretend that never happened. At best it was an incredibly toxic and mutually abusive relationship. At worst he was an abuser who got smacked back a few times. Could be anywhere in the middle. Anyone who thinks Johnny Depp is innocent is incredibly gullible.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 01:15 AM
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Pete Davidson is hot, sorry. I've dated/hooked up with/lusted after multiple non-celebrities who looked a lot like him. I'd be into him if he were a no one. I'd be into him if he were a short no one.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 01:08 AM
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What precisely do you mean by "working" to get someone? Risking rejection by making a move? Grooming yourself? Making conversation? Being pleasant? Planning dates? Exercising in order to be attractive? I am genuinely curious.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 12:22 AM
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You're still asking her to have sex about twice as often as you think she'd like. I'm not saying you're doing anything wrong there -- and I don't think you are -- but yeah, she's gonna feel bad about it sometimes. And you're going to feel like an unsexy annoyance sometimes, at least assuming you actually give a shit about each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 10:33 PM
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You seriously don't understand how someone might feel pressured or inadequate over your (apparently very reasonable!) approach to the issue? She knows you want more than she's giving, she cares for you, she's gonna feel bad about it sometimes. That's life.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 10:19 PM
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Not all high libido people act like entitled brats -- but plenty of low libido people with perfectly nice and understanding partners still end up feelings pretty bad about it. They're annoyed by come-ons even if they know the rejection will be accepted gracefully, they feel inadequate, they worry that their partners will leave them over the issue. LL men in particular can feel kinda emasculated turning down sex all the time. All of this can happen even if both people care for each other and are …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 09:41 PM
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Lots of men have sucked penis. Hell, lots of straight men have sucked penises for money. You can do it, I promise.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 06:26 PM
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They love it til they don't, IME. It's def been a problem in the past. I can live with a minor disparity but a major one kills me and has been a factor in the end of two longterm relationships. In both cases it was very manageable for years before the gap widened and it became an issue. Both relationships had other big issues as well -- honestly can't say whether I'd have stuck around if everything else had been great. And of course it's possible that those issues affected their sex drive as wel…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 06:56 PM
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Yeah, he does it in a cool fashion-y context, because he's a pop star and that's what's expected. My ex routinely wore my clothes, my boyfriend has a whole drawer of sparkly leggings that he wears regularly and I've dated other men who would inevitably crossdress for Halloween. And women are attracted to Harry Styles! Don't tell me it's just because he's famous -- Harry Styles has reached his current level of fame in large part because women are attracted to him. He stands out because he doesn't…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 09:43 PM
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You seem to be assuming that someone having a crush or some "maybe..." feelings basically turns them into a mindless little drone slave. Lots of people who have those feelings simply adjust their expectations and move on romantically while still choosing to maintain the friendship. The other thing you're missing is that these people do in fact value the friendship for what it is, and often get a lot out of it even if nothing romantic or sexual ever develops.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 08:51 PM
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I've exclusively dated effeminate men basically my entire life -- none of them did poorly for themselves. Women often love feminine men. It's other men who don't. Jason Sudeikis vs Harry Styles is actually a pretty good example. Both are rich and famous, both are attractive enough although neither one is a showstopping stunner à la Brad Pitt or whoever, and only one of them is an international sex symbol. Jason Sudeikis does nothing for me and never has but I've had a crush on Harry Styles for y…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 07:21 PM
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The poster is expressing guilt and unhappiness at the prospect of denying casual sex to a man who doesn't please her sexually. If OP is trying to prove that women are callous and hateful about small penises he picked a pretty bad example. Nothing in her language is derogatory and she seems to be hoping for solutions other than "stop having sex with the person you don't enjoy having sex with."
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 08:18 AM
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I've had a ton of casual sex, I do not know the number. I want the sex too, I just want to cum first so it actually feels good. And I probably wouldn't let him spend the night anyway so he'd have to get himself home after regardless. Straight men like pussy, I don't know what to tell you. You're apparently in the minority, even in the comments here but definitely among the hipster art boys I tend to go for.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 03:29 AM
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I mean you're making her more sensitive so she's likelier to enjoy it but if she seems to hate having penetrative sex with you... stop seeing her??? You'd be doing both of you a favor, since at that point she's likely only sticking around because she feels guilty dumping you over it. There's no point in sex with a man who doesn't eat pussy, regardless of size.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 12:02 AM
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Yeah this was pretty much how I felt about them in my early twenties. Their main appeal was that they could afford to take me out to nice places. I used to have a general rule that I was fine going dutch on dates with men close to me in age but once they hit a certain age gap I fully expected them to pay and wouldn't continue to see them if they didn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 11:29 PM
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Compatibility which Redditors love to mention essentially just boils down to 'does the guy have a big dick' That's not what anyone means when they say "compatibility" and you know it. I've had good sex with guys who were pretty small -- they all went down on me a lot. In general women who prioritize oral don't care as much. The woman who wrote that post does not enjoy receiving oral sex, so it kinda makes sense that she's more of a size queen.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 08:22 PM
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It's pass/fail. I'm not gonna date someone I'm not attracted to but once they're over the threshold other stuff matters a lot more. Personality, sexual compatibility, lifestyle, future stuff, etc. I've never been in a relationship with someone I didn't feel a strong initial attraction to but objectively there's a fair amount of variation in the people I've dated. In your case you probably are on their level and you're just being hard on yourself. You might be getting to their level via intangibl…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 10:24 PM
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So you're just pretending the UK case didn't happen? She admitted to hitting him in order to stop him from throwing her sister down the stairs, seems like a pretty important detail there!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 05:57 PM
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Johnny Depp's "innocence" has never been proven -- Amber Heard won her case in the UK. Anyone who believes that Johnny Depp is actually completely innocent is a gullible idiot. The absolute best case scenario for Depp stans is that he was an equal participant in a toxic mutually abusive relationship, but it's not at all unlikely that he's just an abuser who got hit back a few times. So if you're going to use him as an example I'm going to assume that nothing you have to say is of any value.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 06:23 PM
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Why do you believe that a man who lies about everything will conduct his studies in an above-board way and be honest about the results?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 09:18 PM
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But you're fine trusting a guy who billed himself as a "neuroscientist" and "anatomy teacher" despite having no college degree, no history of formal neuroscience study, and taught anatomy in a massage school? Like if you do in fact have an issue with porn why would you trust that guy to help you? If I'm having a medical issue I might look online for legit medical sources like Mayo clinic or I'll go to the doctor. I don't call up a DoTerra rep and ask her which essential oils will help.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 08:45 PM
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I am not going to watch a fucking video because some PPD poster assigned me homework. I can tell you that Gary Wilson is a scammer who has lied extensively about his scientific background.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 08:26 PM
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I was unable to have orgasms with partners at all for the first few years I was having sex and tried going off vibrators for over a year to see if it would help. I finally gave up, got a hitachi magic wand... and not long after that I became able to have orgasms very easily from oral sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 07:44 PM
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There's 0 actually proven link between porn and ED -- Evangelicals just made that claim and everyone accepts it as fact. Even death grip is kinda controversial. Anyway lots of us go at ourselves hard with strong vibrators on a daily basis and have no trouble orgasming with partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 06:45 PM
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Yes, I do care, I'm not going to enjoy myself if he doesn't. FWIW I've had a bunch of casual sex and most of them cared. The majority of them went down on me enthusiastically and unprompted. I've definitely experienced the ones who didn't, they suck, but IME they're a minority although I have no idea how much of that is a function of my location/my type/me being extremely hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 12:55 AM
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Ew.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 06:38 PM
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In the current study, more than one-third of women who had unintended births reported that they didn't think they could get pregnant. Bad sex ed. People don't realize how low the chances are for getting pregnant off a single incident of unprotected sex. I've had a friend suggest that I must be infertile because I successfully relied on the pullout method for years. The pullout method is 96% effective with perfect use. What happens is that people take risks, don't get pregnant immediately, and as…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 06:06 PM
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That's not what you said in your post!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 12:29 AM
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So you're actually mad about capitalism?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 12:28 AM
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for every normal guy there are hoards of desperate souls eating up and encouraging this behavior If there's a "hoard" of guys who like it/don't care for every "normal guy" that means the "normal guy" isn't normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 11:55 PM
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People who don't enjoy casual sex do not value being able to have it easily. You see something similar with guys who could get a loving girlfriend and instead are mad on the internet because they don't have a different hot babe in their bed every night. People who are laser-focused on one specific outcome when dating tend to hate dating, regardless of their desired outcome. Women who are very relationship-focused and men who are only interested in casual sex have shockingly similar complaints. B…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 10:58 PM
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I once brought home a gorgeous 6 foot 4 model who was exactly my type physically and kicked him out because he didn't do oral. Like what would be the point? Bad sex with a hot person is still bad sex, and he was hung af so it would have been painful to boot. (Also fingering sucks and most men are terrible at it -- he was no exception and it wouldn't have changed anything anyway because that shit is a massive turnoff no matter how you slice it.) ETA: no downvoting here, and I really don't get the…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 08:04 PM
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Why does it matter whether something is cuckolding or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 03:43 AM
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Sexual compatibility counts for more than technique because technique can be learned by anyone who is reasonably motivated. If you don't understand why "we are doing this thing that we both enjoy" is way hotter than "I am being serviced by a person who is bored and uncomfortable but catering to me out of love" then frankly that's a bit scary.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 07:51 PM
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"Lesbian cuckolding" is actually totally a thing but all of this is stupid. Why do you care whether it's technically cuckolding? You're either okay with it/into it or you're not.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 05:27 PM
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Yes. I've had a bunch of group sex in my life, some of which was fun and some of which went very poorly. At this point I wouldn't say I'm totally over it but it's not something I particularly care about. I have never liked MFFs -- I am not bi, they mostly bore the shit out of me -- but I do like MMFs enough that I'd prob be willing to "take one for the team" occasionally as long as my partner did the same. I'd prefer someone who's already tried it, honestly, although it's a very minor preference…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 12:21 AM
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What precisely do you mean by "going the extra mile" ?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 11:46 PM
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I had an ex with serious mental health issues who cried on me all the time. I did dump him for it eventually... after four and a half years of this and him refusing to seek out any type of actually qualified help. He also had a tendency to get mean when he was really depressed. I think my ex is too smart and self-aware to put our breakup down to "she dumped me because I showed an emotion" but I wonder how many of the guys who make this claim were actually a lot more taxing on their girlfriends t…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 07:26 PM
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Lots of people have mental health issues, lots of people with mental health issues manage them fairly well most of the time and it's worth supporting a partner through the occasional difficulty because they're great when they're not having an episode. Also: lots of men have mental health issues, too. It's relatable. If you struggle with those issues someone who has been through similar struggles and understands you can be an incredible bonus. It can also go terribly wrong, but that's a risk a lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 07:21 PM
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No, never, and I don't know anyone who does this. I don't enjoy rejecting people. It's stressful and not fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 07:33 PM
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Not good at sex and/or not fun to hang out with.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 02:41 AM
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I dunno, I like pretty boy hipsters who are into art and film and stuff. They all seem to do well for themselves sexually so I'm clearly not the only one.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 01:51 AM
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Decided after, I would typically keep a good casual sex partner around.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 01:44 AM
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Not very. I am not attracted to men who are too overtly masculine.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 01:17 AM
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You sound like you get ghosted a lot and are just making excuses about how it's not your fault. Also lol I've ghosted lots of guys after we had sex, no one who actually fucks calls it "pumping and dumping." You just move on, because there's no reason to stick around with someone you're not interested in continuing to see and if you banged on the first date the other person will likely be mildly disappointed at most.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 01:13 AM
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And very few people are actually doing the latter. If you're getting ghosted a lot, I promise you it's not because all these people were secretly planning to ghost you all along.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 01:02 AM
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This all just sounds like some social anxiety weirdness that is only happening in your head. Anyway the time I remember the best I was at a party chatting with a guy I thought was cute and funny but I wasn't sure if he was interested in me/women in general until he mentioned an ex-girlfriend in a way that was relevant to the conversation. Started flirting with him right away and we hooked up that night.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 12:57 AM
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It's a perfectly good behavior. The only people who need an explanation before three dates or so are spoiled children who are too immature to be dating anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 11:53 PM
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Ghosting is socially normalized, which is why lots of people do it. It's socially normalized in large part because so many of us prefer it, even when we're on the receiving end. I don't need the guy I went on two dates with to tell me why he doesn't want to see me again. I do not care.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 11:42 PM
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?????? Lots of people mention their ex-girlfriends, for lots of reasons. At this point you just sound like you don't want to socialize so you're just making excuses as to why it won't help. Anyway I've banged multiple guys of ambiguous sexuality who pulled an ex-girlfriend mention, and I was glad they did because it gave me the go-ahead to hit on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 11:40 PM
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So she thought she might be interested and found out she wasn't. And now you're going to twist the most benign, normal behavior into a situation where you're somehow the victim.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 06:28 PM
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I'm pro-ghosting. if we're only a few dates in I'd prefer getting ghosted over a proper explanation, and I when I was single I'd routinely ghost people under those circumstances. It wasn't usually because I had a better offer. It was because I wasn't that into them and didn't want to see them again. Sometimes it was their fault, sometimes it wasn't, but I didn't feel like having that conversation and I doubt most of them wanted to have it either. When I was single I wouldn't ghost one guy just b…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 03:45 AM
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I'm a woman and I love to date like this. Me and my boyfriend were both hooking up with other people for a while after we were seeing each other regularly. It's fine. When we were ready we actually had a conversation about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/22 09:11 PM
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Maybe it's a good thing that we expect people to communicate their feelings like adults instead of making assumptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/22 09:09 PM
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Have you given her any indication whatsoever that you aren't doing the exact same thing? Have you made it clear that you're interested in pursuing a serious monogamous relationship with her? Have you in any way made your desires/intentions clear or are you expecting her to psychically infer that you expect her to be exclusive after one date? Are you holding yourself to the same standard? If you're seeing a few people and you really don't know where it's going with any of them there's no reason t…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/22 08:44 PM
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Most of my regrets about casual sex were because the sex was bad and halfway through I started thinking, "ugh I wish I weren't here." If the circumstances were the same but the sex was good I'd have left happy and pleased with my choices. Learning to shut it down and bounce if it wasn't working for me basically eliminated that particular regret. I was way too nice about it until my mid-twenties or so.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/22 07:49 PM
1

I know someone who is very proud of how few people she's had sex with. She's been in back to back LTRs her entire life, and most of them started about a year before the previous one ended. She's also a terrible person in ways unrelated to romantic relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/22 07:01 PM
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These conversations have always seemed to foreign to me. Not because I don't discuss it with partners -- I do -- but because those discussions have never been in any way fraught. Mine is very high, everyone I've dated has been similar, we swap stories because it's interesting rather than because the information is meaningful. I can't imagine having a "barf" reaction to merely hearing a partner's number, and I wouldn't want to be with someone who reacted that way to mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/22 06:56 PM
0

I have been a pro-domme for over a decade. I have plenty of experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/22 07:25 PM
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Most kink is sexualized anxiety. With male submissives you see a lot of cuckolding/small penis humiliation/cock and ball torture. What are women taught to be anxious about?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/22 06:10 PM
0

Just mention an ex-gf or something. It's not hard. I like effeminate men, a lot of them are frequently read as gay, all of them do this to avoid confusion and it never comes off as weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/22 01:15 AM
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Your issue is that you expect these women to agree with your assessment of their "worth" and go along with however you feel like treating them. Why should they give a shit? You're not providing the experience they want and they have no obligation to put up with you. And now you're mad about the "imbalance" because these women aren't bending over backwards to fuck a guy who doesn't think they're worth the effort. Lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 08:02 PM
1

Do you realize that the Swedish model is universally condemned by sex workers and that not a single sex worker-lead organization endorses it? It's widely reviled because it makes sex workers more likely to experience violence, and because it specifically involves getting sex workers evicted from their homes, deported if they're foreign, and charging literally every one in a sex worker's life as their "pimp." Anyway everything about this comment is so fractally wrong it's reminding me why I avoid…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 05:40 PM
6

Yeah, me correcting an objectively untrue statement is "making it all about myself." I don't want clients stigmatized either -- it cuts into my profits -- but some of you kinda deserve it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 03:46 AM
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Lmao you think we're "heralded as heroes" by the general population? Are you at all in touch with reality?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 03:16 AM
1

Regardless, it's still true in the context of this thread. If you show up at your volunteer gig and immediately start chatting up every woman because your goal is finding people to date you'll come off as creepy. Have fun, make conversation with your peers, you might actually make friendships that might turn into dates or just more opportunities to socialize and meet people.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 02:21 AM
4

Two of my most serious relationships came at times when I was explicitly not looking for a boyfriend. I think a lot of people handle dating better when they're not laser-focused on a specific outcome -- it becomes more about what feels right and fun, not about reaching some particular goalpost. You can relax and enjoy yourself and let things progress at their own pace.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/22 07:19 PM
1

The guy I know who has the most casual sex isn't "pumping and dumping" anyone -- he's pretty straightforward about what he's looking for and sees multiple women casually at once. He is nice and attractive and generous in bed so he gets a lot of repeat customers who are fine with the situation in addition to fairly regular one-offs. He also has some pretty serious mental health issues. Every once in a while he tries to turn one of his FWBs into an actual girlfriend and gets turned down because th…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/22 05:19 PM
3

I've dated multiple guys with chronic dick problems and they'd all encountered negative reactions to it but they said most of those women were insecure and blaming themselves, not angry about "pornsickness" or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/22 04:37 PM
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If anything I would say the vast majority of men who take to RP forums are above average and simply frustrated at their minimal success compared to women of equal caliber. Lol. The market determines the value, if he can't get those women then he's not of equal caliber, is he? I think the opposite take is much more likely correct -- these are intensely undesirable men who want to believe they're "average" and that most men share their dating problems, which are all due to terribly unreasonable wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 10:41 PM
2

I've had a bunch of casual sex and no it's not. Most guys can't be bothered to lie about their intentions with someone who would sleep with them anyway, and even more guys won't lie about it under any circumstances because that's gross.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 07:59 PM
1

The women in porn are "real life women" and real life has much better resolution than 4k. No one has ever been able to prove that porn actually desensitizes you to real life experience. This is all just hysteria.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/22 09:05 PM
3

Not really, your brain can't get death grip.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/22 06:07 PM
0

Yes, this is true. Everyone jumps to "stop looking at porn" when "use a fleshlight" is often more effective advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/22 06:03 PM
6

B isn't true -- masturbation actually temporarily raises testosterone, but not by much.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/22 06:01 PM
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No. There's some evidence that masturbation actually increases your sex drive. It's not certain and may just be correlation -- obviously horny people masturbate more -- but I think most people know that indulging sexual thoughts tends to make you hornier than simply repressing them. There's also 0 actual evidence that porn causes ED, which people seem to think is a proven fact. Y'all just bought into a bunch of Evangelical propaganda.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/22 05:34 PM
1

How are these custom fantasies going to be made? Are the images computer generated or are those custom fantasies made by actual actors? Y'all already balk at paying for your porn, how are you going to pay for this? By the time the technology is at a place where someone can create their own VR scenarios for little to no cost society will be completely different anyway. The extremely advanced AI that would make that possible would also have a huge effect on day-to-day life in countless ways unrela…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 09:25 PM
1

I've literally never had a man complain about holding my purse. I mostly forget that it's even a thing some men get weird about. I doubt I'd be willing to date someone who got grumbly about something so petty -- it just seems like there are other, bigger issues there.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 08:27 PM
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I've been fortunate enough not to date anyone like that, it sounds like a total headache. If I want something it's because I actually want the thing, and I might be understanding or uncaring if the guy refuses but like it's not gonna make me more attracted to him. Someone who threw a fit because I hugged a male friend would be kicked to the curb. I'm more understanding of men who don't like to share food, but they are not my preference and I do find it a bit off-putting. Actually I did date some…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 02:42 AM
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"Nuclear" shit tests include "grabbing food from your plate" and "hugging another guy in front of you." If that's a nuclear shit test than I guess those are things I do, they're just not intended as "tests" and anyone who overreacted in the way you seem to think is "sexy" would never be touching me ever again. How am I supposed to get wet for a man who is acting like an uptight little jerk?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 11:01 PM
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Yes. We know each other's and we both have very high numbers. I've never lied about it to anyone because I want to filter out the men who would judge me for it. I do not respect those men and I don't want to waste my time on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 07:10 PM
5

I mean I don't do the whole idolizing politicians thing but he did look pretty hot in those videos. If I thought so, then other people thought so too.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 11:39 PM
3

I actually did see a few pre-war, which is is all the more impressive because I doubt most people could name the president of Ukraine pre-war.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 09:57 PM
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On twitter everyone was being horny about Zelenskyy's flamboyant outfits and performances on "Dancing with the Stars" so I dunno if "women like him because he's a man's man" is really the takeaway from that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 09:47 PM
3

No, I would not. I don't think it's the worst lie in terms of actual harm done, but it's not in any way justified and it was definitely a shitty thing for her to do. If I were friends with both of them I'd be more concerned about M than anything else. I'd ask her why she's doing this, and I'd wonder why she thinks a man who would discard her for sleeping with him too early on his initiation is in any way relationship material.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 08:05 PM
3

The only really bad thing M did was lie about it. She seems to have a very messy, conflicted relationship with her own sexuality and H isn't really the victim here. He was free to do as he liked before they were exclusive and if he wanted someone who would wait then he wouldn't have tried guilting her into sex on their second date.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 06:46 PM
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I routinely did when I was single, but I absolutely wasn't doing anything like the weird messy shit described here. For one thing, I'd hate to get all attached and then discover the sexual incompatibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 02:19 AM
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Right? Most people who have as much casual sex as M apparently does would have hooked up with H quickly and then dropped him just as quickly over the incompatibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 02:01 AM
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They're not "taking themselves off the market." They've just decided they're fine with doing something that's a dealbreaker to a lot of people -- but not to everyone. Also, a LOT of sex workers are gay. A LOT. Civs are often pretty shocked by this, but it's true. Chances are that super hot OF model would never be interested in you because she's not interested in men. Dating as a sex worker is always gonna be a bit of a problem, but if you're not full service or in the closet and you know your ni…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 07:35 PM
1

If that's not what you meant then you express yourself so poorly in writing that I don't see much point in having any type of text-based discussion with you, either.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 12:16 AM
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I don't see much of either in real life. I mostly see people with genuine concerns agonizing over whether or not to voice those concerns, and often choosing to stay silent rather than risk the friendship. I've seen men mock their friends for doing basic normal relationship things and encourage them to cheat, though. And it's not a strawman, it's literally what you said.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 12:07 AM
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Why are you assuming it's all single women giving OP this advice? It's not like the malicious singles don't exist -- and men do this too, maybe even more, so let's not pretend it's gendered -- but honestly "she's single and jealous" is often just a rationalization. A lot of "single and jealous" friends have reasonable concerns, but accepting your friend is right about the person you love is a lot harder than telling yourself that she's just jealous of your relationship. I'm not single but I do h…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 11:48 PM
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IME people are pretty careful about telling you to dump your partner -- they know it's likely to be received poorly, so they're rarely that direct without good reason. I've been in obviously bad relationships and didn't even get that advice, although my friends were openly relieved when those relationships ended so I know they wanted to say it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 10:08 PM
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Are these people who know you well, care about you, and are familiar with your relationship dynamic? Because if those people are all telling you to leave your boyfriend, chances are high they have pretty good reasons for that and this post just seems like it's you justifying your decision to stay in a shitty situation because you're afraid of dying alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 09:28 PM
1

I'm not that big a texter, I don't need to have a conversation all day, but if someone routinely takes ages to get back to me when we're talking logistics... I'm gonna make other plans.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 05:46 AM
4

If someone were taking days to get back to me I'd just assume he wasn't that into me and move on to someone who actually showed interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 01:41 AM
1

I mostly reject the premise. I can definitely be more attracted to someone based on his personality but the personality traits that would attract me are the same ones that would make me interested in befriending someone. The one thing that would make me file someone I was attracted to as a friend instead of as a potential sexual romantic partner isn't really a personality trait -- it's a lack of interest. I'm usually pretty straightforward if I'm interested and if that's not reciprocated I'll ba…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/22 09:50 PM
1

I've pretty much exclusively dated them my entire life, I don't need to ask the reddit weirdos! You can appeal mildly to a large crowd or very strongly to a smaller crowd. Effeminate men take the latter approach, which works out better with dating because the person who thinks you're kinda cute is always going to choose the guy she's actually super into over "kinda cute."
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/22 10:14 PM
1

I like effeminate men and am rarely attracted to men who are too traditionally masculine. Most of the effeminate men I've dated have done very well for themselves with regards to dating and casual sex. Sure, they put some women off -- but it doesn't seem to matter because the women who like them REALLY like them, and there are kind of a lot of us, especially if you're dating in certain locations/social circles. You're not worried about being accepted by women. You're worried about being accepted…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/22 10:07 PM
5

So you'd rather date the woman who doesn't get upset and continues dating you because she thinks you're too dumb and insecure to know any better?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/22 08:15 PM
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You are entitled to your standards. She's entitled to think they're stupid enough as to make you undesirable. If you disagree with her assessment, the two of you are incompatible. If you don't end up in a relationship with each other that seems like a good thing, not a "punishment." Would you rather get dumped by a woman over incompatibility or have her continue date you even though she secretly or not-so-secretly thinks you're a moron?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/22 08:00 PM
12

Literally everything in this list is something related to capitalism. Conservatives don't like that answer so they pretend it's all caused by genders and ladies having sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 08:24 PM
11

I went to an all girl's school and we did that stuff all the time without a single male present. Some of us later came out as gay or bi, most of us did not. I'm sure some women do it for attention -- and I've seen straight men do it for attention too -- but there are plenty of other reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 03:42 AM
2

They get way better after mid-twenties or so, by which point a lot of women are burnt out on the whole idea of casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 12:22 AM
13

Yeah, maybe some? Those are the ones who don't stick with it for long and/or stick to guys who put a lot of effort into making them feel validated because it becomes REAL OBVIOUS real fast how not-validating the whole thing is.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/22 05:28 PM
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Having casual sex as a woman isn't validating. It's fun. Hiring a sex worker isn't validating either, but men do it anyway because it's enjoyable. People enjoy sex for reasons beyond validation.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/22 04:55 PM
8

Pregnancies went down during the pandemic. "Pandemic babies" were only a thing among UMC and rich people who figured they'd take advantage of WFH.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 11:15 PM
1

Are you dodging the question because answering it honestly would mean admitting that sex work is stigmatized in a specific way that does not apply to other jobs?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 05:30 PM
1

It's dangerous, stigmatized labor that's often highly unpleasant to boot -- and you have to pretend you're having fun while you do it. Would you date a working escort?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/22 07:14 PM
8

Do you realize that prostitution is legal in many parts of the world, and not particularly risky in most places where it's illegal?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/22 05:23 AM
2

Yeah, exactly. It's an unfortunate reality, although the extent varies considerably by individual. But it seems super weird to blame someone going off a longterm partner after years of a healthy sex life on the people they had sex with before you even met? Or come up with a complicated explanation for how the whole marriage was a lie and the person who fucked you happily for years was faking the whole time? Like the explanation is RIGHT THERE. I'm convinced that both "porn addiction" and "alpha …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 07:39 PM
1

All my serious relationships started as hookups. The Venn diagram of people I would date and people I would hook up with is two concentric circles, with the "dates" circle being the much smaller one. I'm not saying everyone is like this, but have you considered that what you're saying is not as universally true as you seem to think?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 01:12 AM
1

If a man loses sexual interest in his wife redpillers assume it must be because she got fat. If a woman loses sexual interest in her husband redpillers assume it's because she spent her youth fucking hotter guys, was never really attracted to him in the first place, and basically tricked him into getting married. Wild. There are myriad reasons people lose interest in their longterm partners and a lot of them are more common than those two. INTERESTING that redpillers have decided those are the o…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 09:46 PM
5

How many dead bedrooms do you think are caused by weight gain on the part of the man?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 09:00 PM
13

It's super weird how much dudes here deny the Coolidge effect. Even in those dead bedroom posts most people describe a good-to-great sex life at the start -- the ones where it never really got off the ground seem to be a minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 07:27 PM
3

Are women very obtuse or are you just extremely determined to believe something that directly contradicts our lived experience being on both sides of the age gap?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 11:30 PM
4

There's a very high level of camaraderie for sure, but I've def seen dommes compete and fight over clients more than once. Looking back there aren't really any age-related dynamics that stick out, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 10:30 PM
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Lmao no one's really nice in that situation, regardless of age or gender. Duh?? I'm not convinced that older woman/younger woman rivalries are any more vicious than a rivalry between two women of the same age. Or two men regardless of age. If anything older people in general tend to be less dramatic about that stuff. And again, my main interactions with older women at that age involved them being my direct competitors while we were all doing sex work.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 10:08 PM
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This does not align with my experience at all. I was very pretty, working in commercial dungeons in my early twenties and my older coworkers were by and large lovely to me. A number of them became good friends, some to this day. And that's in an environment where our desirability played a large part in our financial success. I didn't really experience this in other environments, either.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 09:29 PM
1

Toxic masculinity is not a mental disorder. Toxic masculinity is an entire set of beliefs, the major one being that "masculinity is mandatory for all men" and the others defining masculinity in specific negative ways. Toxic masculinity is the belief that men must be: misogynistic, homophobic, violent, emotionally closed off, etc and that not displaying those behaviors is somehow a flaw. Worth mentioning that the term originated with the mythopoetic men's movement, so if you're whining about how …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 07:15 PM
1

the woman has 100% of the authority over whether to have an abortion Only in some places!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 10:10 PM
2

FWIW I'm American and the weird shit these guys spout still sounds like it's coming from a completely different planet.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 09:59 PM
1

If you're fit, put shirtless photos in your dating profiles. If you're not fit then get fit and refer to the previous sentence.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 10:09 PM
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Right? They're just not my thing. I'll happily go dutch on drinks at a dive bar or go browse art galleries so it's not even about how much the guy is spending, just that I don't like coffee dates. If someone invites me on a coffee date I expect to be bored during it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 08:37 PM
2

There are evolutionary reasons -- beauty is often a product of genetic diversity -- but beauty standards are not as dictated by biology the way you'd assume. Both obesity and extreme thinness have been prized at different places and times, despite both causing fertility issues + other health problems. As social animals we are all highly vulnerable to social influence, because that's something that makes the group gets along, which means we're more likely to work together to ensure the survival o…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 07:08 PM
1

I'm fine with people approaching me in a bar. Doesn't mean I'm down to chat with every person who approaches me in a bar -- just that I don't begrudge them for trying. As far as I'm concerned a bar is a place where it's pretty normal to strike up conversations with strangers, which is a very different thing from a place where strangers are obligated to talk to you. People are okay with different things. For some people a DM slide or a gym approach might be fine and welcome, others not so much. A…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 10:41 PM
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I mean, yeah. Most people would say that about themselves. A lot of people who genuinely believe that about themselves and DO walk away from shitty partners will still fall prey to a shitty partner who just happens to be much more skilled at manipulation than the last one. You probably aren't immune either, and thinking you are immune only makes you more vulnerable.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 08:30 PM
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It does, though. The psychology of intimate partner abuse is not gendered and it doesn't only work on healthy people, although it tends to work on them less well. It turns out manipulation is effective.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 07:31 PM
3

Irrelevant
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 08:57 PM
12

Sample size of one but I have no respect for men who care about sexual history and I've never once lied about mine. If anything I go the other direction and am fairly open about it in order to scare them away.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 07:29 PM
2

I wonder how many of the factors that lead to divorce are less about "being a bad partner" and more about "not fearing singlehood." Attractive people also get divorced more. Is it because attractive people are jerks? Or because they know they have options and are less likely to stick it out in a bad relationship? People who like hookups know that if the relationship ends at least they'll get to have some fun about it. People who don't will stick it out just because they dread having to date agai…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 08:04 PM
2

Pretty easily, although the truth would become fairly obvious once we spent more time together. Genetics play a big part, and there can be a lot of variation there. Guys with highly physical jobs tend to need less gym time, too. I've dated a bunch of very fit men and they were alllllll over the board in terms of effort. You could give me almost any number and I would believe you, because I know personally how varied it can be + also it's just a weird thing to lie about. Diet would be a bigger de…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 10:30 PM
1

It seems weird to me to focus your life around a potential LTR when you're completely single. Why not enjoy yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 03:31 AM
1

They're typically guys who have casual sex, or would if they could get it. Which is fine. I have casual sex too, I don't think there's anything wrong with that. Sometimes you're just horny for sooner rather than later.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 03:22 AM
1

That ex I mentioned was very sexually generous and definitely enjoyed pleasing me, FWIW. Most of them would way rather get it for free, since that way they know there's genuine attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 03:14 AM
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Lots of guys don't bother to please their partners and don't even pay them! That seems much worse to me. And you'd be surprised by what "sexually catering to someone" can entail. I'm a pro-domme but my escort friends are constantly irritated by "authentic pleasure men" who insist on spending a lot of time going down on them and need them to put on a big performance of liking it -- which they don't, because even technically great sex with someone you're not attracted to in the slightest isn't act…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 02:48 AM
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That they're all terrible people who will inevitably cheat, that they dehumanize women, etc. It's nice to be sexually catered to be a hot person, you don't need something deeply wrong with you to enjoy that. I also know that sex trafficking is pretty wildly exaggerated so I don't have the same concern that he may have seen someone trafficked, which seems to get mentioned pretty frequently in these conversations.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 02:28 AM
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My ex lost his virginity to a sex worker and had seen them occasionally in the time since. I was fine with it. I'm a sex worker though so I don't make the same assumptions about clients that civs tend to. Wouldn't date a guy who participated in the review boards, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 01:38 AM
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Yeah? Those are different things. I don't see a contradiction. You don't care if your hookup is hung up on her ex but you sure do care if your girlfriend is.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 11:37 PM
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Because it's fun? It's also not mutually exclusive with seeking an LTR. Most people I know who hook up, myself included, met our partners because we hooked up with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 08:31 PM
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I'm not really making a blanket statement, I'm aware that sometimes things just shake out that way and it's awesome. But some breakups really do require a recovery period in order for the next relationship to be healthy, and being single for an extended amount of time is a good experience for everyone to have at some point. I don't think it's necessarily bad to hop right into a new relationship -- I just think there are some good reasons to not do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 08:29 PM
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It's good to be single for an extended period after a major breakup. I honestly don't think it's super healthy to jump from one relationship to another. Process the last relationship, learn to be comfortable by yourself, take some time to think about what you want out of life uninfluenced by a partner. No reason to be celibate while you're doing all that, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 07:19 PM
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Nah, hookup culture is fine. It's not for everyone and it's not for everyone at every point in their life. You burnt out on it, which is fine. Fortunately you're a man or everyone here would be shrieking at you about AF/BB. Which, as an "RP kinda guy" you should probably keep in mind the next time you feel tempted to scream about AF/BB.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 07:06 PM
1

I wouldn't be interested in someone I wasn't at least kind of attracted to, even if he came with glowing reviews. But I have definitely gone for guys I might have otherwise overlooked because they had that vibe, or because I'd heard from someone else that they were good in bed. So yeah, I guess? I think people want to have sex with hot people because hot people are hot, it's not fucking rocket science.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 03:40 AM
1

Yes, you are. The people in question were dating him, they were also just being fucking weird about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 08:44 PM
1

There already exist multiple apps aimed at queer women but most of the queer women I know actually prefer Tinder. I loved Tinder and used it heavily when I was single, so I'm fine with it as is.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 12:06 AM
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I knew a bi guy who got really frustrated because both men and women were weird about it. He decided he was just going to pretend to be gay with men and straight with women. I was aware that a lot of women are biphobic, surprised and disappointed that so many gay men are biphobic too.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 11:32 PM
1

I mean, I don't know the woman who got attacked by a groper in my neighborhood and I have no idea how the assault affected her, but I sure did have to read the stupid comment on the article about it questioning why she was out so late. (She was at work, taking out the trash at the end of the night. That was also mentioned in the article, which the commenter may have missed in their rush to excoriate her for her poor choices.)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 02:34 AM
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I'm sure some of them last and some of them are even happy, but in general I don't think large age gap relationships should become serious. If you must, keep things casual and if it's still working once the younger party hits 25ish then maybe consider taking it more seriously. I don't think a relationship where one person is taking on that much more responsibility for the other person's wellbeing can be healthy, and I do think that dynamic is absolutely necessary for a healthy age gap relationsh…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 11:28 PM
1

Depends on the age of the younger person.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 07:14 PM
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Read it again. My entire point was that I'm a lot more okay with casual age gap relationships (which can be fun) than serious ones (which are almost always disasters). Also at 27 Kutcher was past the age where I'd be concerned.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 07:02 PM
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I was talking about seeing it happen to other people -- obviously if you're the one assaulted that'll have an effect too. I was thinking more about the cumulative effectg over a lifetime of seeing victims picked apart for terrible crimes like "being outside after dark." The person most likely to murder a woman is a serious romantic partner, just saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 06:57 PM
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I like the Dan Savage campfire rule -- leave it better than you found it. Do not get serious, because that age difference will cause problems even if both of you mean well. The older person needs to assume additional responsibility when it comes to both sexual health and the younger person's feelings. That means honest conversations about where this is going (nowhere) and frequent check-ins. Lotta "mature for my age" twenty year olds end up burned by manipulative older partners, just saying. I s…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 01:30 AM
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I mean, if she hooked up with those guys and neither of them wanted anything more and they both left happy, it's not really accurate to describe them as "failed relationships" is it? Like if anything they were successful short-term relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 08:18 PM
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FWIW I've never been particularly cautious or concerned about this and it's always been fine. I don't think you understand the absolutely fucknuts way that "personal safety" has been taught to women, though, and frankly I have a hard time blaming women for paranoia. We are taught from a young age that men -- especially strange men -- are a potential threat and fed horrible stories about rapes and murders to keep us careful, and given safety tips that basically boil down to "arrange your entire l…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 08:04 PM
1

I've had sex with more hot guys than you could shake a stick at and most of them cared. A lot of the ones who cared the most were pretty successfully slutty. Honestly haven't noticed any correlation at all there. I think it's a terp myth.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 12:33 AM
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Nah, I've had really intense orgasms with people I wasn't that into. Once they're down there it's just their technique + my imagination and nothing else matters. The hotties don't really get a leg up there.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 12:31 AM
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Nothing's proven (because foot fetish research does not get a lot of funding) but it's a theory that's been put forwards by actual neuroscientists and it absolutely aligns with everything I've seen. No one develops a foot fetish late in life. Every once in a while you'll meet a submissive who got into foot worship later on but they don't like feet the same way as foot fetishists, they just like the idea of kissing feet because of the implied power dynamic.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 03:27 AM
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Foot fetishes are different, though. They originate in the brain independent of outside stimulus, which is typically what causes most other fetish interests. I've been a pro-domme for over a decade, I've discussed this with literally thousands of kinky men and yeah, there's absolutely something different about foot fetish.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 12:44 AM
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They don't! They just claim everyone who doesn't fit their theories is some kind of wild outlier, which is a very convenient way to continue ignoring reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 11:52 PM
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Foot fetishes are neurological and result from male brain architecture. Most sexual interests pop up around puberty or later but foot fetishists typically recall being interested in feet from vey early childhood -- including family members' feet, since they're too young to really connect them to sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 07:28 PM
2

Being too focused on one specific outcome saps any enjoyment out of the experience and just makes it feel like a frustrating job. If you're a chill go-with-the-flow type who enjoys talking to people you'll probably have at least kind of a good time.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 03:41 AM
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I don't believe they care instinctively. I think it's cultural. I've lived my entire adult life in liberal places, my sexual history is arguably insane, I am NOT in any way secretive about it and it just hasn't ever been an issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 02:09 AM
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Probably, but I've heard dudes talk about encountering terps in the wild like it was super unusual and weird, so.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 12:00 AM
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I'm sure that's what terps tell women -- but it's also what men who genuinely think terps are dumb clowns tell women, and there are a LOT more of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 10:03 PM
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I think you're really underestimating the extent to which most young men who are aware of TRP think they're a bunch of dumb clowns.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 09:27 PM
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They are conspiracy theorists.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 07:54 PM
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I've heard many stories about older female virgins being rejected for it and eventually just lying about their experience so as not to scare off partners. I think you're taking a deliberately uncharitable view of this when the more common explanation is that they are concerned about taking on the responsibility of being someone's first sex experience. Like they're worried they won't give the virgin a good experience, and/or they're worried that the virgin will get extremely attached afterwards. …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 08:42 PM
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I actually love the apps but they can be tedious and overwhelming and not very efficient if you're looking for a relationship. Like you have to sort through all these guys, and message with them -- unfortunately, some of those conversations WILL turn rude and nasty -- and then go on dates that very rarely lead to anything serious. Which is fine and fun if you're okay with that, but immensely frustrating and not really worth the trouble if you're someone who is dating with the specific purpose of…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 08:28 PM
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I mean it's "valid" in that no one can entirely control their own emotions but I don't give a shit, it's a dumb thing to cry about regardless of circumstance.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 06:19 AM
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I'd be fine with it as long as he was a decent client who treated them well. If a friend came crying to me about their partner's history of promiscuous/paid sex I'd tell them to get tf over it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 10:51 PM
5

I thought this was just because poor people die younger.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 09:04 PM
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I think you're hearing "oh no, I hate this perfectly truthful ideology because it's MEAN" when what people are actually saying is "lol this is a crackpot conspiracy theory that is also very misogynistic, and the people who believe in it seem as insufferable as they are stupid."
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 04:27 AM
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I've never been terribly worried about my safety when dating, or "stranger danger" in general -- but I also like dating apps a lot more than most women, so maybe that's part of it. I suspect the truth about dating apps is less that they're scary and more that they are tedious, overwhelming, and not all that efficient if you're looking for a relationship. The shitty messages are also an issue, and I know multiple women who tried the apps once and got scared off for good by the first gross message…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 07:42 PM
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Your assumption here is that every woman wants to be in a relationship at any given time, regardless of what's going on in her life, and that being single at all, ever, or sleeping with someone who doesn't end up as a longterm boyfriend is a failure. Nah. It's fun to have a bunch of casual sex and being single for an extended period of time after a failed LTR is healthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 12:01 AM
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word salad
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 11:50 PM
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Yeah guys here have a huge revenge fantasy about those mean sluts who rejected them getting used and abused by Chad + a power fantasy about how they would treat women if only they could get away with it. Fortunately, it does not align with reality. I have a pretty promiscuous friend group and most of us, myself included, end up in completely normal relationships with people we met hooking up.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 07:23 PM
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Oh no, do not try to do sex work nuance here, none of these guys can begin to wrap their heads around the idea that most of us would strongly prefer NOT to session with friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 04:03 AM
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If you're gonna hold off on orgasms for a month it should be fun and sexy, not boring and weird. Throw a cam girl a couple bucks to call you her denied little loser or something, GOSH. Nofap is just anti-porn hysteria and I think it's dumb. If you're curious about how pornography is affecting your sexuality, holding off on it for a while might be a worthwhile experiment -- but why skip masturbation? Honestly you'll get more interesting results seeing what your imagination can come up with minus …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 04:00 AM
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I am NOT a tidy person, my ex wasn't either, before we moved in together we lived in similar states of disarray. Once we moved in together we continued to live in mess, except he convinced himself it was all my fault and barely lifted a finger to help with any cleaning. Didn't stop him from complaining about it, though! I ended up doing a lot more to live in much worse than I had previously.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 02:12 AM
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I'm really hot which might be biasing my opinion but it wasn't even difficult! I find that most guys buy drinks on first dates, and will happily continue to do so in a chill casual dating situation. They were usually doing the same with other women as well, which was fine because I didn't want a relationship with them and didn't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 12:38 AM
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You can be single and having a lot of sex. You can have a whole rotation of nice boys taking you out for drinks and servicing you sexually but at the end of the day you have your own space and you don't need to plan your life around another person. It's lovely. Good relationship > single > mediocre relationship, IMO.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 06:54 PM
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I would prefer the man who gives me his attention. I like a lot of attention and tend to lose interest in men who don't seem enthusiastic enough about me. With the restrained guy I'd just assume he wasn't that into me and back off.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 09:52 PM
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Yeah lol I'm not the one with reading comprehension issues. I'm done here.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 12:15 AM
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Okay, fine, let's revisit your fanfiction. You assume that because you file these women a certain way -- women who are by your own admission fun and hot and good at sex -- that every other attractive man they encounter feels the same. You also assume that they are sad and lonely -- again, another stretch, but okay, lots of people are sad and lonely at any given moment so you're probably right at least some of the time. But then you assume that because they are sad and lonely they certainly want …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 11:03 PM
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So if I went to the trouble of explaining why your fanfiction is fanfiction, you wouldn't immediately accuse me of lying to you/myself?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 10:35 PM
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Look, arguing on here is a dumb thing I do to myself and I won't pretend it makes a difference -- but I have learned there is a certain level of self-indulgent detachment from reality that I find far too frustrating to bother with. I could explain how what you described does not at all fit my life or the lives of the people I know, but you wouldn't believe me anyway. What would be the point?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 09:20 PM
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I can read just fine and I just wasted way too much time reading your epic fanfiction.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 08:52 PM
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That's a lot of words for "I pretend my fuckbuddy is secretly pining for a relationship with me because it makes me feel special."
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 08:21 PM
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Boring conversation, pretty serious mental health issues, incompatible lifestyles or longterm plans, just didn't enjoy hanging out with them enough. I'm hot and interesting, I do not relate to problems you describe.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 04:36 AM
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Nah. I've slept with loads of guys I would never date. I think men like to tell themselves this because it makes them feel special and powerful to believe that their fuckbuddy is secretly pining for a relationship, even if they don't want one from her.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 03:04 AM
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I don't know who this person is but like, I actually did the things. Most of the guys I've dated have too. We're not one-upping each other, we're sharing stories because it's interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 10:56 PM
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I've had married women willingly offer to cheat only because they were drunk the first time I've met them. I couldn't imagine being out in a public area drunk and hitting on women and not having the police called. Do you sincerely believe that a drunk married man offering to cheat would result in a police call??? Where??????
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 10:01 PM
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I'm in the "tell him your orgy stories on the third date so you can find out if he's a weak little bitch" camp. My bodycount is astronomical and a man who reacts poorly to that is a man who will absolutely bore the fuck out of me. Best to find out sooner rather than later. These questions are always phrased in a way that assumes (1) all men are bothered by an extensive sexual history, and (2) being bothered by an extensive sexual history does not make a man any less desirable. They're not and it…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 08:24 PM
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A. I'm pretty and interesting, I enjoy casual sex, and when I'm single I am not someone who dates with the single-minded focus on finding a committed relationship that a lot of women seem to have. Even when I've been single for a while and would like a relationship, I'll still be pretty happy if a date results in a fun hookup or a good FWB situation. I require a very strong emotional connection to be interested in commitment, and that can be hard to find. Even if I treat the whole thing as a num…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 08:16 PM
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You have at some point looked at someone much prettier than any partner you have ever had or will have and decided they were hot without knowing that they do terrible things. But yeah if you want to hold people to that standard have fun being single for the rest of your life!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 07:25 PM
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I PROMISE you have at some point been physically attracted to someone who was actually a terrible person.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 12:50 AM
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Yes, the pretty boy thing is totally hot and has always appealed to a lot of women. Not "just teen girls" or whatever. Long hair, eyeliner, crop tops, etc. Hot. I've never bought the line that it's because they're "sexually non-threatening" either. TRP is about pursuing validation from other men. Women often love feminine men, but other men do not.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 06:10 PM
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Those places have less criminalization. I am talking specifically about hiring sex workers under US criminalization, which is relatively low-risk and and easy on the client side.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 07:14 PM
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Yes, they're both hot and it's not even the celebrity. I'd be into either of them if they were nobodies. I've dated/hooked up with/lusted after a lot of similar-looking men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 05:52 AM
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Alain Delon is one of the most stunning men to ever live so idk what's wrong with her eyes.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 02:28 AM
2

I'm a sex worker, we literally read PUA books for pointers on how to manipulate clients. They're helpful!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 01:25 AM
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Men are extremely vulnerable to PUA tactics, too. Idk why people always frame this as some kind of proof of female nature when the same shit works just as well on men. Turns out manipulation is often pretty effective! Surprise!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 10:36 PM
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You're at the bar anyway, having fun, some cool guy chats you up and you might want to see where things lead. I love dating apps and have had great results from them but they're kinda tedious and using them can feel like labor. Like you're doing some weird sex homework, swiping and sending messages that may lead to very boring or very rude conversations. Additionally: The guys on tinder aren't necessarily hotter than the guys at the bar, and idk why you believe this so intensely. A lot of the mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 07:38 PM
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I post stuff like that but I'm a sex worker and maintaining a sexualized social media presence is part of my job. It's a part of my job I don't hate, though. People who aren't doing it for financial reasons just want some attention and an ego boost and honestly... it's fine. It's a relatively safe way to get that. The people who are really mad about it -- especially the ones who jerk off to it and are also mad about it -- seem like the real weirdos to me. Either MYOB or enjoy the free masturbati…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 08:46 PM
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Yeah and those things are most common in the parts of the world where internet use is not as common! This man's issue isn't that pornography gave him the idea it might be fun to put a dick in a butthole. It's that he decided a woman isn't truly in love unless she is doing the specific sex things he likes.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 04:25 AM
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They could also rape and beat their wives with impunity. Other rapes often resulted in marriage between the rapist and the victim. And some Medieval theologians believed that rape was less sinful than masturbation, since at least it involved the chance of procreation. So yeah maybe that cutesy little fact about men getting divorced for impotence doesn't have the far-reaching implications you think it does.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 03:49 AM
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Men having horrible, entitled attitudes towards sex is not a symptom of "porn addiction." Men have had horrible, entitled attitudes towards sex since loooooong before pornography was easily available. Arguably they've gotten a lot better since internet porn came along, although to be clear I don't think one caused the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 03:30 AM
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conceptualize "natural sex" without "power games" as something that looks like straight out of a Vicoriran era marriage manual OP's entire argument is that women who don't cater to his particular fantasies (rough anal sex but no slapping) don't love their partners. CNC is not 100% female sided, as both my professional inbox and my experiences in the kink community very much prove.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 10:40 PM
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Lots of kink stuff is one-sided one way or another, that's the entire point and not my issue with this post. I don't have a problem with sex acts being painful or degrading, if that's what both people are into. OP is arguing that women who aren't into anal or submission don't love their partners, which is ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 10:01 PM
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You don't know how to spell "cuckold" so it was a pretty good guess!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 09:48 PM
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It's also not particularly difficult or risky to hire sex workers in the US, despite criminalization. Like it's on the level of buying weed illegally -- and there are ways to reduce your risk to almost nil.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 08:46 PM
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Right? Like I wonder how they'd feel if a woman demanded they endure painful and/or degrading sex acts to prove their "passion." For the record I'm kinky as hell and I don't really believe in the concepts of "porn addiction" or "porn sickness" but the completely one-sided demands here are absurd.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 07:45 PM
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I've been a pro-domme for over a decade, I promise I know more about this than you do. For a cuckold, seeing me pleased by a hotter, more competent lover is a large part of the humiliation. My pleasure is intrinsic to the humiliation. The guys into hotwifing want to see their partner shared and acting like an insatiable slut. They also want her to enjoy it but her pleasure is less relevant to the whole scenario.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 07:18 PM
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I've done cuckolding sessions professionally and "woman enjoying herself with a sexy partner" is definitely the fantasy for some of them. Even with the guys who like the idea of rougher sex most of them still want the woman to be enjoying herself. I had one client who was in a sub/sub marriage and a big part of the appeal for him was the idea that he was inadequate due to his inability to dominate her the way she wanted. They were swingers and he would book sessions with me while she was on date…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 07:19 AM
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I'm fine with that. Stop letting the ladies have all the fun and do your workouts in skimpy clothes.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 03:26 AM
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Presumably it is comfortable and saves laundry too. Maybe more of them should do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 03:22 AM
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They walk around shirtless all the time. And literally none of it matters, keep your eyes to yourself if it bothers you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 01:29 AM
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Let's not pretend a woman wearing significantly more than the average beach goer is the same as a naked person. Come on.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 12:41 AM
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I do like black men. I am not comfortable with that type of racial fetishization. If my sidepiece happened to be black and my boyfriend wanted to make a big gross deal about it... I would not permit him to do that. He can sit in his cuck chair and jerk off without making it weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 10:11 PM
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Presumably my cuckold boyfriend in this scenario would also be someone I'm attracted to, so he'd be twinky as well. I like what I like and cuckolding is supposed to be about my pleasure. I'd happily indulge a boyfriend's desire to see me have sex with men I find attractive. If he wants to be a control freak about the type of men I sleep with / the type of sex I have with those men then lol good luck finding someone this compatible, bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 09:27 PM
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When I work out at home by myself I wear a sports bra and tiny booty shorts because it's comfortable. Sometimes a full face of makeup because I already put it on and there's no reason to take it off. I'm guessing women at the gym have similar reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 08:01 PM
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I'd happily indulge him but only with guys who are actually my type and I like pretty twinks.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 07:27 PM
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Yes, I'm kinky and into it though. The racial fetishization is unnecessary and would make me uncomfortable.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 07:18 PM
1

Old pictures???
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 12:04 AM
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A regular filter won't make her look thinner, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 11:58 PM
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All questions of fairness aside, because I don't care about that: Why would you ask for a number you don't know the meaning of when you can already see -- or request -- a full body photo? Men literally don't know what female weight numbers mean, and that's not even entirely on them because two people with the same height and weight can have very different bodies. The SAME person can look very different at the same weight, depending on how much she's working out. Dress size doesn't mean shit eith…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 11:15 PM
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I'm talking about the ones who wait a month or whatever and do lots of cute romantic stuff before they have sex. By the time they find out they're already invested/committed. I'm with you, I want to check sexual compatibility early on.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 02:42 AM
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Yeah, exactly, they both left the interaction happy. That's a good thing! Are the terps too dumb to understand that most people don't want their sex partners to feel sad and used after?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 12:29 AM
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There's the risk of getting emotionally attached to a man who sucks at sex. But the women who are willing to wait that long usually don't care that much. I do, so I don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 12:27 AM
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lol you think sex workers have to be told this?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 12:23 AM
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One of my more financially successful sex working friends is in her late thirties, not thin, rarely does full service. She's a highly skilled workaholic with a pretty face and that lets her out-earn a lot of twentysomething escorts.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 11:23 PM
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Sex work is honestly unskilled labor so with enough drive and ambition a business owner could potentially fill the prostitute positions with minimum wage pay Lmao where would they find workers? You need people who are willing to do sex work for minimum wage -- which is less than even the most desperate, drug-dependent outdoor sex workers charge. Most sex workers charge a lot more than that and they'd be unwilling to give up the freedom of self-employment to earn less money.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 08:45 PM
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Yes, we know. This might be very difficult to wrap your brain around but people have sex with people for reasons other than validation. Having decent casual sex with an attractive man isn't validating, but it is fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 08:10 PM
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Boooooring
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 12:56 AM
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If you're very lucky you can be one of the guys I cuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 12:17 AM
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If those were really my only options I'd stay single forever and have casual sex to get my rocks off. If I had to choose I'd take the guy I was attracted to and absolutely cuck the shit out of him. I'd be bitter as hell and do stuff like have my sidepieces ejaculate on his toothbrush. OR I'd take option 2 BUT I'd find a submissive into cuckolding and make his sexual fantasies come true. I am actually kinky and kink compatibility will have me attracted to people I'm not that into physically. We'd…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 06:34 PM
2

Do men worry when they can't? At any rate I "pair bond" just fine, so.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 06:23 PM
1

Do you think they would have gotten rich and famous in the first place if no one wanted to fuck them?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 03:57 AM
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I sleep around a bunch when I'm single. I feel fine about it. I have a high sex drive and am not someone who will catch feelings just because we fucked. I don't cheat, I don't pursue taken men, I am careful about protection, I hurt no one. All my serious boyfriends have been well aware of this and it's never been an issue. If someone thinks my sexual habits make me a bad person I think they're dumb and uptight.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 11:12 PM
1

Do you have any proof that the sons of single moms suffer in dating? I'm genuinely curious, my brief google just turned up a bunch of stuff about how most negative affects associated with single parenting are actually just caused by poverty. Also, you are making some very sweeping statements about the type of dating advice mothers give to their sons and the motivations behind that and none of what you're saying is supported by much, either.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 04:40 AM
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lol k
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 07:12 PM
0

Yes. You gotta play up the androgyny though. If you have feminine looks and are trying to dress/act masc we're gonna find you just as boring as the actually masc guys. We mostly show up in alternative/progressive circles but if you're not in those you can often find us on Tinder in big liberal cities.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 02:21 AM
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I've been a pro-domme for over a decade and know actual working escorts. I've met their serious boyfriends. I've had multiple serious boyfriends in my time in the industry. So based on that... yeah, there are definitely guys who fit that description and wouldn't even blink at marrying someone who did OF years before she even met him. Sorry your revenge fantasy is a fantasy!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 07:39 PM
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Lmao, wanting someone you actually enjoy talking to is shallow now? That's ridiculous. My parents have been very happily married for over thirty years and have massively emphasized to me that I should always look for a partner I can have good conversations with, since at the end of the day that's what you spend most of your time doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 12:45 AM
2

lol no I have been in the sex industry for literally over a decade and this is not true
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 12:04 AM
1

You're referring to the time people spend chatting and flirting as "wasting time" but the thing you're missing is that most people enjoy that. If you hate the person you're chatting up and only want to skip to the sex part, that's your own problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 10:17 PM
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Again, how does that prove his point that most women are taking longer than they'd like? Strippers are being efficient because they're at work and they want to be efficient.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 08:57 PM
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Lmao most people don't really care about "efficiency" when they socialize. That's an insane thing to prioritize.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 08:56 PM
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Who gives a shit? They're all single. And yes, the comment I responded to did very explicitly say that women with multiple FWBs aren't single.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 08:55 PM
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So your imaginary awkward guy is taking longer than he'd like. How does that prove that all these women are taking longer than they'd like?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 04:09 AM
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Okay, but why are you so sure all these women are taking longer than their preferred time scale?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 03:13 AM
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Okay but you're still saying that less time and less ambiguity = better approach, and I disagree with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 02:59 AM
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Banging multiple FWBs = still single. You don't have to be celibate to be single. Men consider themselves single if they're sleeping with multiple women but not committed to any of them. If you're starting to spend a lot of time with one of them and you're catching feelings you might stop considering yourself to be entirely single but absent that you're fucking single.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 02:57 AM
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It's weird what you're defining as a "good approach," honestly. Apparently the factors are (1) it has to be completely unambiguous, and (2) it has to escalate fast. Have you considered that those are not necessarily the things people want out of their flirtation experience? Put it this way, the caricature of how a creepy "bets male niceguy" approaches women, wirh a lot of lingering, hovering, and finally action/escalation attempt = women approaching. You're defining this as a "bad approach" but …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 12:56 AM
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If you hang out in more progressive circles you end up hearing about a fair amount of male sexual fluidity. I've seen lots straight guys make out with each other as a joke and I've heard many of them admit to "trying it out" with other men, although the reasons vary significantly. The guys in those groups have close gay male friends so they don't get weird about it in the same way when their "straight" buddy turns out to be bi or has just done some experimentation. The women either don't care or…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 12:40 AM
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12 or so. I hit puberty unusually late and looked significantly younger than I was. I was flat as a board til I was 16. Nothing really bad ever actually happened but I got approached and creeped on by adult men on the regular when I looked like a literal child. The other thing I noticed is that the catcalling was much more aggressive when I looked super young. It didn't actually slow down much when I stopped looking like a high school student but it got significantly less aggressive The really s…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 12:28 AM
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Why should I care how other people feel about it? This is about how I feel about it. Another person's ability to suspend disbelief is irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 06:38 PM
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Especially if you're dating people in your social circles but even if not, be upfront from the beginning. If you're not looking for anything serious right then, say so. You're fresh out of a 7 year relationship, which is a great excuse. You might lose out on a few people but if you're sooooo successful then it won't matter much. And like... don't be a dick. If you're going around saying things like "you don't make the cut for monogamy" then you're getting canceled for that, not the other people …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 03:21 AM
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Pseudoscience.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 12:40 AM
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Interesting assumption.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/21 10:30 PM
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I'm in a committed relationship with one of them, if that's what you mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/21 09:55 PM
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Yeah, but those milfs are supposed to be someone else's mother, and when I'm having sex I want them to be my son.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/21 09:55 PM
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He was giving me less orgasms per session and the sessions had become much less frequent.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/21 09:54 PM
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Something you're missing is the level of credence these men are giving to the theory. On one hand you have redpillers with ridiculous black and white thinking going, "oh yes, she's a total PORN STAR for CHAD but she's disgusted by her husband and will DEAD BEDROOM him and CHEAT WITH CHAD." And on the other hand you have guys going, "yeah, there's definitely truth to that but trading some excitement for stability doesn't mean we can't have a loving relationship and a decent sex life." The other t…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/21 04:25 AM
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I've been eaten out really well by more incredibly attractive men than you could shake a stick at. I've had someone here argue that I must be lying because a man who can have casual sex easily has "no reason to care." Like it's not normal for people to enjoy performing oral sex and pleasuring their partners. Their idea of good sex is validating sex, and their idea of validating sex is doing the absolute least for a woman who is doing the absolute most, and they can't get it through their heads t…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/21 10:39 PM
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I dated a guy like this! It was very hard for him to cum so he often didn't try. It was a little frustrating but I didn't care too much because he gave me so many orgasms. I fell madly in love with him, was in a serious relationship with him for many years, and broke up with him in part because we weren't having enough sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/21 09:00 PM
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Good mothers do not have sex with their sons!!!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 07:21 AM
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I enjoy mother/son role play and it's harder to suspend disbelief when they're older than me. Lmao. That particular kink is actually a relatively recent addition but something about the older woman/younger man dynamic has always seemed very hot to me, even when I was myself a teenager. In high school my friends used to joke that I'd make a great cougar one day. Interestingly, a lot of the men I've dated longterm who were close to me in age or a bit older had a history of dating older women. I th…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 06:27 AM
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Neither of them are real things.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 05:30 PM
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I dunno, I'm a hot party girl and I like to stay single for a while between relationships in order to process and recover but also because it's fun to wild out on Tinder. ETA: I'm downvoted for telling the truth?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 10:49 PM
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I don't like being chased when I'm not interested and don't want to put anyone else in that position. Dismissive behavior from someone I'm not dating doesn't make me more interested in him, often makes me less interested, and always makes me 10000% less likely to act on any interest I may have.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 09:43 PM
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Sooooo sociopathic to not end things with someone you love the second the thought crosses your mind. Sooooo deceptive to hold off on a breakup because you want to put in an effort before throwing that all away. Redpillers have a massive bugbear about women ending relationships, in general. There is no way for a woman to end a relationship without somehow being a terrible person, or at minimum a complete idiot.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 08:37 PM
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So you're saying we should just be dumping them without any warning or attempt to fix the problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 08:04 PM
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I mean, considering how shocked my ex was when I dumped him I really wonder how many of these guys who claim to have "never had a discussion" are actually telling the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 06:48 PM
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If men are requiring a "hey I will actually dump you over this" to not consider a woman to be "stringing them along" it's because they're too dumb to be in relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 06:24 PM
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I dumped my ex over an issue we'd talked to death, right after he did something I'd explicitly said I'd dump him for. He was genuinely shocked. I was shocked that he was shocked -- he knew I was thinking about ending things, because I'd fucking told him. He also knew exactly why, because I'd told him that too. I loved him and was holding onto hope that things would get better if we both put in effort. He was thinking, "well she didn't leave over this the first time, so she never will."
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 06:19 PM
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I am and they don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 09:26 PM
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Prostitution is legal in lots of places. In most places where it's illegal, finding and hiring sex workers is still relatively easy and low-risk. Every few months someone posts here acting like legalized or decriminalized prostitution would be some massive gamechanger that would hugely affect the normal person's dating life, but like... no.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 07:46 PM
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I find it very entitled to expect a single woman to stop dating and cut off her other men as soon as she meets you, especially if you are not willing to use your words and ask her to do so. That has nothing to do with self-respect and definitely nothing to do discipline. It's just being a self-centered prude who expects people to read minds. At any rate, I am hot and interesting and I live in a densely populated city where the way I date is the norm, so it's not like a lack of interest was ever …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 03:56 AM
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Why would someone who has such different values around sex be a better option for me than someone who shares my values? Do you think it's possible that those men are filtering out women who might be better partners for them in the long run by eschewing relationships with women who casually date multiple men at once?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 12:09 AM
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They're usually seeing other people as well, and if you're clicking that hard it becomes very obvious which way the wind is blowing so everyone else gets dropped pretty quick. For this to work you have to be the kind of woman who enjoys casual sex, so the type of guy who gets prissy about the fact that you were sleeping with other men before the exclusivity talk is not gonna be The One for you. Scaring away those men is a feature, not a bug.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 08:37 PM
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This is gonna piss you all off and I'm slightly trolling but also this has actually worked very well for me: Learn to enjoy being single and fuck around a lot. Keep three men in your rotation at all times. You'll get enough attention between the three of them and you'll be sexually satisfied. If you find yourself wanting a relationship with one of them you'll have to weigh that option against dumping the rest of your rotation. You won't desperately pursue the one who won't commit and you won't a…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 07:49 PM
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Plus, this lets them blame their dating problems on their inherent goodness and gives them a nice little revenge fantasy about how the women who rejected them in favor of more attractive partners are all getting abused and cheated on.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 02:20 AM
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Lots of desirable men have treated me well and done none of those things. I fucked their brains out. "No such thing as a nice hottie" is a lie you all wish we'd believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 01:29 AM
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I think some of the guys on here have never actually gone outside and instead spent their lives watching shitty high school movies on loop.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 01:23 AM
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I don't like nerds and there are plenty of nice non-nerds out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 01:22 AM
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Yeah, but they're still fucking nerds and you can recognize the personality. I don't know why people here don't understand this, but a man being "nerdy" or not has literally no bearing whatsoever on whether he will treat you well.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 12:02 AM
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Redpillers are all fucking nerds -- avoiding nerds is a good way to avoid them, frankly.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 10:54 PM
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Not necessarily, but either way it's roughly equivalent to paying a sex worker.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 11:56 PM
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"Be yourself" is actually great advice if you're not too stupid to understand what it actually means. It's not "change nothing at all, ever." You can be yourself while improving yourself. You can be yourself while putting your best foot forward. You can't "be yourself" while acting like an entirely different person, you can't keep up that act forever, and when the real you inevitably comes out it's going to cause problems with the person who got into a relationship with someone else. And meanwhi…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 08:14 PM
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Plenty of hot young sex workers out there. How are you pretending he's an alpha chad and not a client?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 12:14 AM
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Okay, so they're more analogous to clients of sex workers than some alfalfa chad player whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 08:33 PM
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Drug dealers are people who have drugs and spend a lot of time around intoxicated people who want drugs. A lot of the time they get laid by people who mostly just want free drugs and are sometimes willing to pretend the interaction isn't transactional. In this framework, doesn't that make them the beta bucks?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 08:24 PM
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Nah, there's something to what she's saying. "Don't shit where you eat" doesn't just apply to the workplace. Work dating isn't really an issue for me due to the nature of my job, but I've regretted entanglements with friends and classmates in the past. I lost a certain level of comfort in our shared environments, even when things did not end badly, and ultimately the fun I had wasn't worth it. You'll inevitably develop some crossover in social groups over the course of a longterm relationship, b…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 11:54 PM
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Yeah I think a lot (but not all) men who want a SAHM want a dependent who can't easily leave and has no choice but to give him the final say in everything. Although I've noticed that in Asian cultures the SAHM is often in charge of finances, since the person who runs the household and actually writes the checks has a better grasp on how to budget. If things go wrong, at least she has access to all the family money.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 06:19 PM
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It's not unless you just decide that words don't mean the things they actually mean. They are nasty redpillers who think everything women do is useless, which is why they think SAHMs are useless. That's not feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 02:21 AM
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That's not feminism. That's capitalism. Second wave feminism had some issues with homemakers, but the objection was less "SAHMs have no value" and more "SAHMs all unhappy victims who got pressured into drudgery by the patriarchy." Which is very patronizing but, to be fair, was much more often true at the time. However, you'll find that most feminist thought, especially in more recent decades, has moved on. Also, I'm guessing those men would firmly object if you called them feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 02:15 AM
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Yeah, and notably those men aren't feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 01:46 AM
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Do people look down on your desire to be a SAHM because of feminism, or because homemaking, like a lot of traditionally female labor, is devalued? I recall an r/relationships post from a while back in which a man complained bitterly about his inability to find a woman willing to be a SAHM, but it turned out he'd actually been on dates with a number of those women and immediately decided they were all lazy gold diggers. Even men who want SAHMs don't necessarily value or respect them. And at least…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 01:35 AM
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Yeah, I knew a guy who had a lot of casual sex and did not look or act the part. He was unattractive and diagnosed with autism. He openly acknowledged how unlikely it seemed. He was a lovely person and all his friends were strippers. Being super nice and spending all his time around very sexual women = he pretty much always had a few friends he could booty call, because they trusted him to be fun in bed and not make it weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 09:45 PM
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The male sex drive is wildly overrated, especially after the honeymoon period. For all the whining they do about not getting laid enough, a lot of them are happy with a couple quickies a week and get stressed out if you want more than that. This is definitely one of the many reasons I think TRP is bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 09:42 PM
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What I said is just extremely basic common knowledge about marketing. Physically attractive HOW? WHICH masculine personality traits?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 06:50 PM
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That's an insanely broad and poorly defined description.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 01:54 AM
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The men I've found the most intensely attractive are considered overly effeminate by most other women -- and yet all of them have done very well for themselves. You can be sorta appealing to a large group or extremely appealing to a small group. There's no way around that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 07:15 PM
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Would you feel differently about a beautiful woman you had previously flirted with aggressively pursuing you vs a hideous one you'd paid little attention to? What about a man? If the undesirable refused to accept your no and continued pursuing you, would you consider that harassment?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/21 07:54 PM
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I'm comparing men to fish too?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 03:51 AM
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What if I don't care about being "used" for sex? I like sex. I actively pursue casual sex when I am single. If we've had one hookup and he doesn't text me back I'll be at most a little disappointed.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 09:57 PM
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"My preferences are sacred, but women having preferences that exclude me are entitled." Anyway, deeply weird and lacking in self-awareness that you've gone "oh I just need a nice hot person who won't cheat on me, literally nothing else about her matters!" as if that's a good thing, and an attitude that women should be emulating.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 08:23 PM
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Can't say, whenever I've experienced a disparity I've been the HL. Very curious as to how the men here would handle being the LL in this situation, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 07:18 PM
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"Fish" give very good advice on how to catch specific fish that are similar to themselves, but not necessarily on fishing in general. None of this is gendered? Men can tell me what they personally find attractive or offputting, but they can't tell me what other men find attractive or offputting, and they tend to have a bit of a blindspot about just how different those other men's preferences can be. Nor do they take into account that I have preferences about who I want to attract/dissuade, that …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 07:48 PM
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Lmao I've slept with some very hung men and it didn't hurt. The vagina expands when aroused.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 07:16 PM
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For me it's mostly generosity, with compatible likes/dislikes being a big factor as well. But also, just overall, did I enjoy myself? I would not have sex with someone again if I did not enjoy myself the first time. It doesn't need to be a total mind-blower but if I didn't have fun he's not getting a second chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/21 10:44 PM
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I have a lot of casual sex when I'm single so I'm entirely unbothered if I sleep with someone who doesn't turn out to be The One. I kinda enjoy being single so the way I conduct myself is about what feels right and fun, not about strategizing how to make some guy commit. All my adult relationships have started as hookups, even though it became clear pretty quickly that we were interested in each other romantically. I highly value a strong sexual connection and want to know we're compatible in th…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/21 07:57 PM
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This is the most "GO OUTSIDE" comment I've ever seen on this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/21 06:04 PM
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Yes, but they didn't care. We were just comparing notes for fun. My number is astronomical and none of them were bothered. Honestly my experience has been similar to yours and I actually do have a massive outlier number. I think the guys who post here just really love the revenge fantasy about the reformed slut who can't find a man because she's touched too many penises and exaggerate how common that is. I have a pretty promiscuous friend group and usually what happens is that the sluts don't "r…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 10:08 PM
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I'd be fine with that. I have depression, it's pretty under control most of the time, I get it. There's definitely a level of illness where I wouldn't be okay with it going untreated, and another level where it would be 100% a dealbreaker, but what you're describing sounds more than manageable. If I wanted kids I'd have to consider before saddling a child with a double dose of the sad genes. But I don't, so that's irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 04:16 PM
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I'm of the Dan Savage school that if you check messages and find cheating, you're justified. If you check messages and find nothing, you are being shitty and you should probably think about yourself. I get why people find that frustrating but if you're violating your partner's privacy without very solid reasons to be suspicious... you should not be doing that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 08:14 PM
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I'm banned from r/relationships because I was too mean to a guy who was hacking into his ex-girlfriend's Facebook messages and attempting to confront her about the guys she'd talked to since they broke up. I said that if she posted I'd tell her to document his actions and look into a restraining order. I stand by it, he was being fucknuts and scary. But yeah, the relationship advice subs are sooooo "female centric" you can't even tell a stalker he's being a stalker because it might hurt his feel…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 07:49 PM
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There's a fair amount of crossover between feminists and anti-capitalists who will push back on the idea that having a job is fulfilling in any way. It's hard to argue that those people don't understand that taking care of your children without the distraction of paid labor is desirable for many people.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 11:03 PM
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What if he loves something you hate, or the other way around? I like men who are actual pleasers because it turns them on, not because they are willing to do it for someone they care about. The latter will eventually take me for granted and slack off but the former will always want to get me off. A good way to find out whether you've got the first type is to fuck on the first date.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 07:21 PM
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Men who are too overtly masculine bore the shit out of me.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 11:24 PM
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I am perfectly capable of communicating what I want in bed -- more than most, probably, because I am experienced and not shy -- but if you think that's a guarantee you are giving men far too much credit. And anyway, even if no one "sucks in bed" there's still a chance of serious incompatibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 09:08 PM
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I don't know if this is gonna blow your mind or what, but most people don't see sex workers for validation. They see sex workers because it's nice to be sexually catered to by a hot person.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 05:44 PM
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Or you invest time and catch feelings for some dude and then discover that he sucks in bed.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 05:19 AM
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Yeah duh? It's easy to acquire sex and not that much harder to acquire good sex, why would I stay with someone who fucked me infrequently/badly? That's an entirely valid reason to leave. Like if there are medical issues or something I'd stick it out for a while but if he just doesn't wanna... someone else will. Honestly very weird that you are conflating cheating with ending a relationship that isn't meeting your needs and acting like both are equally bad???
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 01:39 AM
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The thing is that those non-Chads who spend time in those environments tend to get laid, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 11:40 PM
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I don't agree. I think this is the most neurotic shit I've ever read.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 06:47 PM
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No, they exist and it's not just luck but also they don't act anything like how TRP describes "Chad." Like most of them are attractive but they're not all hotties and I've known a few who were pretty ugly. Mostly nice people who spend a lot of time in low-inhibition environments and social circles. Tendency to form genuine friendships with women, including those they never hooked up with at any point. Also tendency to just be generally chatty, extroverted people. The ones I hooked up with were a…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 06:36 PM
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Female sexuality isn't just a reaction to a specific man. How and under what circumstances a woman is fucking you has less to do with you than you think it does. Honestly most stuff though. I've seen people hem and haw, saying stuff like "TRP describes women's actions but not their motivations" but I pretty much never see the behavior described. I don't mean "oh, maybe it looks that way, but it's actually different" I mean I straight up do not see stuff that even looks like it might fit except e…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 03:48 AM
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"Porn addiction" was invented by Evangelicals and has been sold mostly using studies that were done on Evangelicals -- studies which found, surprisingly, that men who had been raised to believe that masturbation would send them to Hell felt bad about masturbating, and suffered as a result. Being non-straight, non-vanilla, or raised religiously vastly raises the chances that a man will self-identify as a porn addict despite having completely normal use. There's been a lot of research done debunki…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/21 07:19 PM
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They're both wrong. Porn addiction isn't real.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 08:19 PM
2

I don't think so. I've had really enjoyable sex with people I wasn't that physically into because we were extremely kink compatible.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 10:16 PM
2

Not really, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 05:25 PM
2

No he's right.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 07:56 AM
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No. I feel like having sex with people who are really fantastic in bed kinda can, though, probably because that's more about effort. I can't resent someone for being less hot than the most attractive people I've ever been with but I can resent someone for not putting in as much effort as the most sexually generous men I've slept with. I know they all could do that, if they wanted. My body has never really "gone dormant" but I have 100% experienced the thing where I went to bed with a guy I was k…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 06:33 AM
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Yeah I've had guys I fucked for years and never wanted anything more from. Lovely guys, pleasant and hot and good at sex.. and yet. Nothing. My pattern is that I need an intense start or I lose romantic interest. Once I file them as "casual" in my mind I don't really develop those types of feelings even if I like them as people and the sex is great.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 11:20 PM
1

Is it though? I wouldn't be voluntarily celibate for a year. I'd be climbing the walls.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 10:36 PM
1

It's not no effort, it's just less effort than others would put in.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 07:40 PM
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Why would I choose someone who only gives me one when there are others who would happily put in the work for more? Why do you care if a woman just starfishes? After all, you still came.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 08:15 PM
1

I'd consider it a red flag for low sex drive, which would be a problem for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 10:59 PM
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I mean, they're implying that the past decision making was immature, no? Anyway, I'm gonna echo the other person who responded and say that this really sounds like a self-esteem issue. Why are you so sure you can't measure up? Like this assumption that the men have come together in her head as some sexy amalgamation that you must now compete against... is very weird, frankly, and I say that as someone who has slept with an obscene amount of people. Chances are that the person who is attracted to…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 08:08 PM
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The women who say stuff like "I am more mature in my decision making now" are the women who regret it. The "it was fun for a while, but not really my thing anymore" are the ones who don't. So you're just mad at women who do regret their sexual pasts because they're not self-flagellating enough?? Or because you don't believe them??? Idgi. Anyway this is all very silly, you don't need to regret shit to genuinely love your partner. "I left behind my fun single life because you're so cool" feels a m…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 03:40 AM
2

If you daughter did sex work out of financial desperation and you weren't able to help her, wouldn't you want her to be as safe as possible? Because full decrim is the best way to lower her chances of experiencing violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 02:31 AM
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That's a wild fucking reach.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 11:24 PM
1

"Hey, we both made the choice to have casual sex with each other, that means you're not relationship material." Like wtf, where is the logic there? Seems like shooting themselves in the foot.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 10:49 PM
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That seems silly. I don't think I know anyone with that kind of mental separation. If you have good sex and hit it off, why not date?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 10:41 PM
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I dunno, I haven't encountered that phenomenon as much. The venn diagram of "dates" and "hookups" is a pair of concentric circles with the "dates" circle being much much smaller. I feel like that's pretty normal?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 07:46 PM
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I like it. I've had lots of fun and also met all my more serious partners through hooking up. I don't think women "collectively want" anything. I get why some women aren't into it and feel stressed out by it. I'm just not one of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 01:10 AM
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Then you are either incredibly awkward or don't have much imagination. Seriously, sitting around with a hot person talking about your turn-ons and all the things you're about to do to each other is fucking hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 12:01 AM
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Effective domination does require a lot of care for the other person's needs and desires, even if you pretend it doesn't in the context of the scene. You can't control someone's internal experience if you don't know how they feel about the things you're doing to them. Like you might act dominant and you might feel dominant and she might be genuinely very submissive but the entire time she's thinking, what a lame little barely-spanking, I'm dry and this sex doesn't feel good at all, wow this dirt…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 11:42 PM
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A bunch of celebrities have married or seriously dated porn stars, you can google it. Also I'm a sex worker and a lot of my friends are sex workers so I'm mostly thinking about my own dating history and what I've observed.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 11:14 PM
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Nah, but it'll make you hold off on breaking up even when things are clearly not working out and eventually the other person will have to pull the trigger.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 09:58 PM
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If my choices are telling him exactly how to get me off and having an awesome orgasm or keeping quiet and ending up unsatisfied why tf would I choose option 1? Why NOT improve my own experience by telling him what I like? Like seriously what would be the benefit of that?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 09:10 PM
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Nah, a bit of direction often improves things. It's called communication?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 05:12 PM
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Not enough oral on me, non-reactive/too quiet, failure to take direction, dick problems aren't usually a dealbreaker on their own but absolutely can be if he handles them poorly.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 05:11 PM
1

It happens all the time, though?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 04:12 AM
5

I've been a pro-domme for over a decade. Kink is often connected to anxiety. Male subs often fantasize about SPH and cuckolding, because those are things that scare men. Women grow up being taught to fear sexual violence constantly. But there's no pat explanation for why people are kinky and the answers are going to vary from person to person and you're probably onto something in some cases. I think a lot of male subs into forced bi like the idea that they can explore their attraction to men whi…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/21 06:48 PM
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I am really good in bed and have a high sex drive. I have sex for myself so in that sense everyone has gotten "my best" with the possible exception of the hookups who proved a bit disappointing once we were in bed. If you sexually disappoint me I will either get things over with as soon as possible or kick you out before we finish -- if not, I'm here to have a good time and for me that means we both give it 100%. I do feel more comfortable opening up with longer-term partners and care more about…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/21 11:10 PM
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Wealthy men have an advantage when dating for relationships. They do not have this same advantage when seeking casual sex, hence they come up with a whole narrative about how "women go for bad boys" where "bad boys" are basically defined as "blue collar, parties sometimes." Your stable job isn't the turn off. It's not a turn on, either. You're just playing in a field where it doesn't confer an automatic advantage and you're grouchy about it because you're on level with the men you perceive as yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 07:04 PM
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Yes, I've known some fucking terrible men with office jobs who treated their partners badly. I've known nice guys with office jobs who were fun and interesting and did well for themselves. I could say the exact same about bartenders. The more I read this sub the more I think the whole "women go for bad boys" thing is just class anxiety from UMC dudes mad that the people they perceive as their inferiors have sex sometimes. Anyway people choose those jobs based on the opportunities available and t…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/21 09:42 PM
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The fact that your definition of "bad boy" is basically just "blue collar" is... fucking wild, actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/21 08:54 PM
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What are these women doing with their lives? What are their jobs? What are their lifestyles like? I've had at various point a general rule against serious relationships with 9-5ers. It's not that they're "boring" so much as it is that our schedules and lifestyles don't tend to align. I'm a night owl and a sex worker, it's not practical. Also, there are plenty of women out there who would never date a drug dealer. Frankly I'd avoid it myself, although I do mostly date bartenders which I guess is …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/21 08:08 PM
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Why would someone who doesn't care about height reject tall men?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/21 01:48 AM
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I'm a sex worker, it's relatable content. Also lololololol @ your concept of how all of this works.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 06:57 PM
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Do unsalaried workers get parental leave too in those countries? What are the cultural/religious demographics of poorer people in those countries?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 01:56 AM
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My boyfriend wasn't treating me well and I was mad about it but I loved him and didn't want to end things. It was easier to justify staying when I knew I was also being a shit. Only dude I've ever cheated on. I've never even come close in any other relationship, and that's not due to any lack of outside attention. I was pretty young at the time and it was my first serious relationship. If I found myself in that situation now I'd just break up.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 12:54 AM
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Taking care of babies sucks, and when men lose their excuse for not being equal caretakers they get way less interested in making more babies. Also those countries tend to have good access to contraceptives.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 12:48 AM
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Surprise, people who have a lot of friends and are good at talking to people tend to meet more people and do a better job of chatting them up. Female extroverts do better for the exact same reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 07:44 PM
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I'm not speaking for all women. I'm speaking for myself. I have literally no need for a man who is not a simp. He won't enrich my life and he won't arouse me.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/21 05:21 PM
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Attempt at what?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/21 06:28 PM
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Because evangelicals did a fantastic job of selling the myth of "porn addiction" to the secular masses but have not (yet) put similar efforts towards pushing some made-up "vibrator addiction." No seriously, I think a lot of you fail to understand the extent to which the concept of "porn addiction" was entirely invented by conservative Christians. The evidence for it existing at all is extremely flimsy and the vast majority of self-identified "porn addicts" have normal porn use but excessive sexu…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/21 01:57 AM
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Lmao what is even the point of a man who is not a simp? Why would I want to spend time, even casually, with a man who doesn't go out of his way to make me feel good? I love simps. I fuck the shit out of simps. Why would I ever want to fuck a non-simp? When someone says something like "oh you are so lucky to be with this girl" take that as a lowkey insult. Whatever you do, do NOT agree with that statement. Ask them "why" and watch then stumble. If they make a coherent argument ask them "so?" :).O…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/21 08:52 PM
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A lot more than 50% of relationships end in a breakup if you include regular boyfriend/girlfriend relationships! And plenty of those were tremendously happy for years before they hit trouble. The question is: why are terps so fucking weird about it that they latch onto completely benign posts like the ones cited here? And yeah, the answer is some combination of jealousy/revenge fantasy/superiority complex.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/21 08:46 PM
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He's bisexual, so if he wanted to have casual sex during that time... he was having casual sex. He's hot enough that the same would probably be true if he were straight, but as is there is literally no chance that he was involuntarily celibate for all or most of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/21 07:15 PM
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Manosphere guys are wildly emotionally invested in believing that people in relationships are mostly miserable. Part of it is, as everyone says, jealousy. Part of it is revenge fantasy. The little fairy tale they tell themselves is that women have too much sex, get rejected by Chad for relationships, and settle with some loser they aren't attracted to and don't even like who is only with her because he can't get laid otherwise. If these couples are actually happy... it ruins the fantasy. The oth…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/21 07:09 PM
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Both those theories are incredibly stupid???? Humans are kinky. Submissive men have always existed. So have submissive women. Women are often submissive for the same reason men tend to like whatever body type was popular when and where they grew up. If something is repeatedly held up as sexy, a large portion of the population will start to agree. Submissive men are just the ones who latched onto a different version of what "sexy ladies" are. Same for dominant women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 03:49 AM
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I'm really hot -- l am professionally hot -- and don't think "pornsickness" is real, which would seem to prove your point, but: I don't believe that "porn addiction" is a real thing because I've actually read the science on it. NOT because I've never been turned down in favor of porn. I have been! I blame the Coolidge effect, which is 100% real. I think a lot of women don't want to reckon with that so they go to "porn addiction." (A lot of men don't want to reckon with that either, so they go wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 07:15 PM
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I s2g no one who posts in this sub has ever had sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 06:25 PM
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Then you really fundamentally don't understand anything about human sexuality. It's normal to want your partner to get off. I've had random hookups put in huge amounts of effort for me. Giving another person an orgasm is hot and makes you feel good??? Why is this confusing??????? It really shouldn't be.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 05:36 PM
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I dated a man who liked to get me off a bunch but had so much difficulty reaching orgasm that he typically couldn't be bothered to try. It was definitely frustrating. Like it wasn't a dealbreaker and I still enjoyed myself, but I wasn't exactly "happy" with it. I prob would have liked it more if he'd had some kind of denial kink but he didn't. Then I'd have at least felt like I was pleasuring him in a roundabout way.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 05:07 AM
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Even before the rise of fansites A LOT of content was created and sold by performers. I work in an adjacent industry and I've been hearing my friends complain about this for years. And pirating has also significantly reduced performer pay for those who do work with companies, so.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 06:03 PM
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I don't think it's been studied.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 05:59 PM
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any decent psychologist can tell you the effect it has on people There's actually a bunch of psychological research that says porn doesn't have much of an effect and porn addiction isn't real.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 08:21 AM
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Nope! Anyway it's interesting that you're focusing on OF and sex workers while ignoring pirated "free" porn. Like your complaint is entirely about people earning money for their labor, with 0 concern for the people who are having their work stolen. People want a service and are willing to pay for it. It's fine. It's not inherently exploitive in either direction and the suggestion that clients are somehow the victims here (because they bought something they wanted, and enjoyed) is fucking ridicul…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 06:34 PM
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I've had great sex that still definitely wasn't the best I've ever had. She became frustrated by the resulting dry spell which seems to indicate that she was enjoying it. If she weren't she could just "give him space to process" and enjoy the time off. Like the guy has my sympathy but this comment is very silly and feels like it's assuming a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 08:45 PM
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yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 07:29 PM
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link?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 05:43 PM
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Are any of them actually saying "start an OnlyFans the second you turn 18, for feminism" or are they just talking about what it's like to do sex work / promoting themselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 05:26 PM
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Then you're not who I'm talking about? Anyway I've seen lots of people date ugly dudes, they just don't think the dude is ugly. Which is fair because this is all very subjective.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 12:48 AM
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The shit I'm talking about is redpillers refusing to believe that women are attracted to their husbands, especially when those women have had a bunch of casual sex and the husbands are not described as Chads. The rest of your comment is just word salad.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 04:26 AM
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Redpillers seems extremely emotionally attached to the idea that all these people in relationships are utterly miserable. I think a lot of it is revenge fantasy. "Look at this horrible woman who rejected nice guys like me for Chadcock, now she's stuck settling for a man she thinks is hideous who would never be in a relationship with her if he had another way to get laid." And part of it is about feeling superior. "Haha, Billy Beta tried being nice to women and now he's in a shitty relationship w…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 04:09 PM
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This is a stupid question. The guys I find the most intensely attractive are considered effeminate pretty boys by most other women -- and yet they all do quite well for themselves. One of the main rules of marketing is that you do better appealing very strongly to a smaller group than less strongly to a larger group. If everyone in the smaller group thinks you're a total babe they'll pursue you but the people in the larger group who think you're just okay will always prefer people they actually …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 07:49 PM
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Also worth noting that the women who tend to have threesomes in relationships are the exact type of women that terps would never consider "relationship material" to the point of mocking their husbands as "beta bucks." Their husbands don't give a shit, they're too busy having threesomes.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/21 07:14 PM
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A vagina isn't fart water. Anyway I don't care what you like, I just have no interest in ever having sex with men who don't go down on me from the first time and I consider them sexually inadequate.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/21 12:34 AM
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I don't think you understand this, but most people who are attracted to women like vaginas. Also, a lot of them really like assholes! You sound pretty squeamish, which is your right and it's cool that you found someone compatible but claiming that your inadequacy is normal is very silly and incorrect.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 05:20 PM
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lmao wtf is wrong with your pussy?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 03:02 PM
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Why is it ew? And why can't I have both? Like why are those mutually exclusive? Most men will happily do both, why do I bother with the ones who won't?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 04:58 AM
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It feels gr8888888 if I've just cum on his face.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 12:23 AM
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PIV doesn't really feel good if I'm not warmed up and ideally have already had an orgasm, fingering is terrible, and if my only other option is a vibrator I'd rather go it alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 11:54 PM
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If men just want to fuck then why do they care if she starfishes and doesn't suck dick?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 11:49 PM
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Literally what is the point of a man who doesn't eat pussy immediately? Why would anyone fuck him???
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 05:23 PM
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I've had casual sex with a ridiculous number of people and a lot of them were stunning. Most of them cared if I got off. Most of them enjoyed getting me off. There were definitely some who didn't, but they were a minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 12:34 AM
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Were all three of them awful at sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/21 11:41 PM
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How many extremely attractive men have you actually had sex with?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/21 11:25 PM
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There is literally no reason for big dick Chad to care about you or your orgasms, so why would he? I didn't think this was a foreign concept that I would have to explain to someone, but most people like pleasuring their partners. As in, they like it sexually and find it arousing. It is deeply, deeply weird that you do not understand this, and a really excellent example of how none of the nerds on this sub have ever actually had sex. Also lots of those big dick Chads are normal nice people who wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/21 10:55 PM
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Then they shouldn't be having sex with randoms.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/21 08:32 PM
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Added to this; the men who can get casual sex pretty easily don't have to care about a woman's orgasm as these women are disposable for them. These are the jerks. I know none of the nerds who post here actually know anything about casual sex but I've had lots of it with very attractive men and this is literally not true. Actually, some of the most generous partners I've had have been the sluttiest. I don't think they're more generous in general, I just don't think it's a factor. Most people want…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/21 05:03 PM
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while 29% of men and 42.9% of women (36.57% of participants) ideally wanted such an outcome Nearly a third of men ideally want a relationship, which you conveniently omitted. Are those guys also getting "pumped and dumped"? This framing still feels like a silly revenge fantasy. What's actually happening is that these people are thinking that they'd like to find a connection and a relationship but a decent hookup or a new FWB is still a good outcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/21 06:08 PM
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lol no that is not what the studies show at all and not how that works
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/21 05:57 PM
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bullet dodged
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 08:40 PM
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I remember getting a message on a dating app from a guy who seemed super cute and fun. I was out drinking with my roommate when I saw the message and figured I'd message him back when I was sober/not in the middle of hanging out with someone. Before that happened he sent me an angry message about how "rude" I was for reading his message, checking his profile, and ignoring him. Murdered all my interest in ever meeting him.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 06:21 PM
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I am a pro-domme, it is my job to turn fantasies into reality and the people who are paying me very well for this task sometimes struggle to explain themselves. For a lot of people "so what are you into" feels like getting put on the spot. They're not turned off, they're embarrassed.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 06:00 PM
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A couple of them said they'd experienced it and liked it. And even if you think those posters are all a bunch of liars there are also a lot of women who don't want to have sex right away either and would prefer someone who doesn't push it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 05:24 AM
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Yeah, that's about what I would expect. I wonder how much of it is that asking is a turnoff and how much is discomfort with describing what they like. I think a lot of people struggle with that. Both knowing the answer and making themselves vulnerable by saying it out loud.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 04:30 AM
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There was a Q4W post here where someone asked how they'd feel if a man they were dating wanted to hold off on sex and nearly everyone said they'd be fine with it, or that they'd even find it romantic.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 02:11 AM
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junk science
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/21 02:38 PM
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jealous?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/21 06:44 AM
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Honest question: how many times have you tried direct communication and how many of those times did you get a negative response?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 11:55 PM
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If you're unskilled at sex then your best solution is to hold off on it until you've developed a closer relationship with one person. Someone who cares about you and feels comfortable around you is much likelier to communicate her needs and be patient while you learn. And frankly, it's not hard. (1) Assume that vaginas need some warm up before you stick anything in them, (2) Ask the other person questions about what they like and what feels good, (3) Give a shit about whether you please them. Li…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 10:23 PM
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Ask her?????? Duh????????
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 10:17 PM
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"you're very rude for not having enough enthusiastic sex with someone who doesn't care about you at all but pretends to in order to manipulate you into having sex" Anyway that's not true, you just don't like women and don't want to face the fact that your level of disdain is abnormal and probably related to mental illness.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 03:02 PM
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Also true! And for a lot of people who don't have many options it can be a path to actual financial security.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 10:24 PM
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I don't think that person was even saying that -- just that, if sex is the only thing you care about and you don't want emotional intimacy, get an FWB instead of pursing relationships and then complaining when you partner has emotional needs.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 07:41 PM
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Yeah, but sex work is fast money and has very low barriers to entry and all of that is really important when you have no money to buy food and are about to get evicted.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 07:28 PM
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You can have both. This sub really exaggerates the prevalence/inevitability of dead bedrooms while also pretending that (1) they are 100% the result of low female desire, and (2) that those same women would be/have been total porn stars for Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 07:23 PM
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People don't do sex work because it's empowering. They do it because they need money. Then when they ask for rights and protections a bunch of idiot UMC feminists who have never been remotely close to homelessness or food insecurity go, "oh, but that's not empowering! Let's throw you in jail instead!"
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 06:44 PM
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I hang out with a lot of messy, promiscuous party people. We don't act like this either.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 07:14 PM
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Frankly, a lot of this also depends on social circle as well. There's plenty of people out there whose social circles and dating pool never have the type of toxicity you seem to think is the default. Right? Like I can't even pretend that my social circle/dating pools have always been composed of the nicest/most stable/mature humans but the level of toxicity these guys seem to think is default blows my fucking mind. I do not know where they are finding people for whom this behavior is normal. Hon…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 07:08 PM
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Obviously they can, but they definitely do not care enough to bother. Source: I have been in the sex industry for 12 years. So did you get busted or did you just spin yourself a bunch of paranoid stories about how you could get busted?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/21 08:10 AM
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So you met someone with no social media who didn't ask for a deposit and got arrested?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/21 12:33 AM
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It is incredibly easy to avoid getting arrested for being a client. Just see someone well-established and/or who screens. You will never, ever, ever get caught in a sting.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 05:27 PM
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Nah, I know plenty of weird looking guys who have casual sex at least occasionally and sometimes more than that. If you can't do it, you're either very hideous or annoying or just not trying very hard because some idiots on the internet convinced you it was impossible and you gave up the first time a hot girl didn't drop to her knees upon meeting. You've decided sex is for validation rather than pleasure, and you've decided that there's one very specific way to have validating sex, and frankly t…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 09:02 PM
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Lol you all think AF/BB is real. GO OUTSIDE.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 08:47 PM
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So what? I've actually had it, I probably have a better idea of what it's like than you do. Like the way y'all describe casual sex just sounds like a sexual fantasy that has nothing to do with reality. Like ooh all these women giving into their base instincts and submitting to Chad's manhood ... nah, dude, usually what happened is that two horny, low-inhibition people encountered each other and felt like having sex, with results ranging from amazing to shitty.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 08:24 PM
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None of the nerds who post this kind of shit have ever had casual sex or they'd realize how ridiculous they sound. Let's start with the fucking sanctifying of casual sex, like it's some incredible amazing experience that is better than all other forms of sex. It's not! Sometimes it's super fun and hot, sometimes you're just drunk and impulsive and not even terribly compatible or attracted to each other. Just like, you know, every other type of sex that happens in and out of relationships. It doe…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 08:04 PM
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Meh, I think this is an excuse a lot of the time. The biggest, most common complaint is men who don't try very hard to warm her up before sticking it in. If you're not totally sheltered or an idiot, you already know that's necessary. Like you're shoving your dick in dry and then going "oooooh but you didn't communicateeeeee" when she's not pleased.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 03:40 PM
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Getting the tubes removed all together is extremely permanent. One reason my friend who did the procedure went with that option, despite increased recovery time. It also reduces chances of ovarian cancer, which she was at elevated risk for. That's something I haven't seen mentioned at all in this thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 01:27 AM
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Reversals are expensive and have a not-great success rate. I don't think men should get vasectomies unless they're certain they don't want any (more) kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 01:25 AM
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It makes a huge difference in terms of time off work and required care. My friend who got her tubes removed had to take most of the month off AND her mom had to take a week off to look after her. Abdominal surgery always has a long, painful recovery period regardless of sex. Compare to appendectomy recovery, if you need an ungendered example.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 09:07 PM
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The recovery for a tubal ligation takes an entire month. Recovery from a vasectomy is 8 or 9 days.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 05:12 PM
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Nah, recovery from a tubal is ROUGH and there are other options that work nearly as well. I don't react poorly to hormonal BC and have no reason to switch methods. If that weren't the case I might consider it. My only friend with a tubal got one because she can't take any type of hormonal BC at all. Recovery took a solid month and she needed someone to look after her for the first 5 days or so. It's pretty common to do the tubal immediately after giving birth because you can get the recovery all…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 05:11 PM
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I was horny and wanted to have one so I sought someone out who seemed fun to have one with.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 04:50 PM
1

Finasteride works and isn't super $$$, I honestly don't know why more of them don't take it. Hair plugs sometimes look a little weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 11:55 PM
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Nah, it's loads of fun. Being judgmental about the fun consensual kinky stuff people enjoy is boring.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 05:08 PM
1

Sorry we're not boring!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 05:00 PM
1

The kinky/nerdy crossover is a running joke in the BDSM scene. And very annoying because I'm kinky but I hate nerds.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 04:00 AM
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No, I hate nerds. I do like Star Trek though.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 12:55 AM
1

I grew up with a very involved, loving dad and we have a good relationship. I've still slept around a bunch. I don't think my longstanding habit of pursuing casual sex is "dysfunctional" though.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 12:24 AM
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About a third of men say they wouldn't date a virgin. No breakdown on the other two-thirds, but at least some of them fall under "don't care" and others fall under "not ideal but not necessarily a dealbreaker." Older virgin women tend to experience a lot of rejection over it outside of religious communities, so there's also that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 03:49 PM
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Makeup isn't deceptive. You can tell when people are wearing it and whatever you've seen online most people aren't walking around totally transformed. (Also, the wild transformations you might have seen on the internet look amazing in photos but terrible IRL.) Anyway, height extenders are fine but y'all should start wearing makeup too.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 11:42 PM
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I honestly have no idea how I would react. I like dating multiple men at the same time. I do it routinely. But both of my serious long term relationships started so intensely that everyone else got dropped immediately because we were spending all our free time together from our first or second meeting. I didn't get asked for exclusivity "in the first couple of dates" -- I got asked for a relationship after we'd spent a week or two hanging out literally every day. I don't think I could accept les…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 08:13 AM
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Interesting. Do you know what their upbringing was like? It can be hard to shake stuff that you picked up early even if you date men who hold very different views than they ones you grew up with. Or part of the issue could be women who know they'll feel hurt if the guy they actually like doesn't call them back after sex, so they hold off with him as self-protection. If they don't like the guy they don't care, so will move forward faster.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 06:43 PM
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I think women who date conservative men are likelier to do this, since conservative men will either judge her or simply lose interest if sex happens too fast. There's no reason to hold off with someone she doesn't care about because it doesn't matter if he judges her or loses interest. I want nothing to do with conservative men so idgaf and would rather not risk getting emotionally attached to someone who sucks at sex. I find it interesting that in female pickup -- where the goal is less about "…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 06:34 PM
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I prefer younger men. That said, less of this issue is about a "preference for younger women" and more about your preference for literal teenagers. Like most people wouldn't bat an eye at a 30yo dating a woman in her early 20s (or a 40yo dating a woman in her late 20s, for that matter) but the fact that you're thirty and pursuing literal teenagers does suggest there's something seriously wrong with you. I am around your age with preference for younger men but I wouldn't date a 19 yo. What a fuck…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 09:02 PM
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If we both want to have sex with each other what do we gain by holding off? As someone who highly values sex, I don't want to get emotionally attached to someone and then learn that we're incompatible in that way. This is why I sleep with people I like quickly, before we're exclusive. Anyway it's also worth mentioning that I've had two 4.5 year relationships, both started with sex almost immediately and exclusivity very very soon after that because we were instantly obsessed with each other. I w…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 01:14 AM
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Right? Like "I don't even know if I like you yet but I need you to be exclusive with me" seems so demanding.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 06:49 PM
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I'm group C. Pretty much everyone I've ever dated has been group C. It's fine. We're both on the same page. If we want to be exclusive we'll talk about it. Actual communication seems like a better strategy than expecting other people to read minds. You want people to conform to your particular preferences but you don't want to have to communicate them -- how is that not lazy and self-centered? But sure, we're the "self-serving narcissists." Dating is supposed to be fun and the less specific you …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 06:36 PM
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The porn stuff is mostly hysteria. I also doubt that "porn addiction" is even a real thing, and at the least I think that most self-identified "porn addicts" are suffering from no such thing. That's an unpopular opinion here, but it's actually fairly well-supported by science. The video game stuff is also mostly hysteria, although I do think there's something to the idea that it reduces in-person socializing. Also, I find it deeply unattractive in a way I can't really explain and won't pretend i…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 07:33 PM
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Yeah, pretty boys are very much my type to the point where I'm turned off by too much overt masculinity and most of the guys I've been with did very well for themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 01:08 AM
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They're not, though. Like you can argue that the hot guys know they'll have better luck approaching the normal way and they aren't refraining from sending propositions out of the goodness of their hearts, but they are absolutely NOT the majority of guys on dating sites who are open about just looking for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 06:56 AM
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I liked him and didn't want to hold his depression against him, especially because it was relatable -- I have depression too. It was something we had in common.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 08:17 PM
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I'm a pro-domme, we don't call them that, but sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 03:17 AM
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I've talked to many men, I've had lots of male friends and dates and clients and we've discussed this stuff. How are you, one man, qualified to speak to the experience of the vast majority of men? One thing I've noticed is that men often generalize their own experiences and preferences as being very common, even when they are not. Women for sure do this too, I think somewhat less often but I could be wrong and at any rate that's not terribly relevant here. Do you think you might be doing that no…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 01:20 AM
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The vast majority of men also live in reality and wouldn't find this list of reasons "alien" at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 12:48 AM
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Nah, I don't think so. I've met loads of people who fit into one of those categories, including a number of cishet men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 11:36 PM
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I don't think john stigma is good either -- for one thing, it drives my profits down -- but it is WILD that you think sex work isn't stigmatized.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 06:18 PM
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As a hot person who has spent a lot of time on dating apps, my reasons have variously been: Not interested in a relationship at the time. I was dating and having lots of sex but not interested in anything that wasn't fairly casual and non-exclusive. I'd gotten out of a sorta messy longterm relationship and needed a loooooong break. Interested in a relationship but looking for a deeper connection than "first basically acceptable guy who seems open to it." I lose romantic interest if things don't …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 05:28 PM
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Cool, so your advice is "don't date whiny losers" and I've been following it to good effect, so
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 06:35 AM
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"Yeah ladies, date someone who whines about how your life before meeting him makes him feel, constantly. That's so much fun!!"
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 06:29 AM
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I did act on them, immensely, and I'm not trying to date a whiny little pussy so I guess that option is out.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 05:18 AM
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There was a thread on here full of people debating whether attractive women are nice because they're not bitter or bitchy because they're entitled and like... it depends on the woman? Duh?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/21 09:01 PM
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I never said I was ugly? I'm not.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/21 08:59 PM
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lol no, every one of my friends who has casual sex hooked up with their boyfriends immediately, and I've always done the same
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/21 08:42 PM
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I've only dated hot guys and they've mostly been lovely! Anyway here you are telling me to date ugly guys because it's the only way I'll possibly get a relationship... and I'm in a serious relationship, with a hot guy, who is not the first hot guy I've been in a serious relationship with!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/21 08:34 PM
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There is no precondition that says the ugly caring man is dishonest though Of course not. There's also no precondition that says the hot guy can't be caring and interested in a relationship. I also don't think the phenomenon of men getting into relationships they don't want just to have sex is particularly common. I just think it's funny that TRP pitches ugly men to women with "hey, they have no options and will treat you well just to touch your vagina" and thinks that's in anyway convincing.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/21 07:55 PM
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Did you not read the comments you're responding to? We were specifically talking about men who fake relationships in order to have sex. And in that case, yeah, I would prefer to have sex with a hotter man who is honest about what he wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/21 07:07 PM
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No one "deserves" sex or a romantic relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/21 06:55 AM
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I know?? Unlike most of the people in this sub I actually go on dates and meet people.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/21 03:18 AM
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Have you tried dating uglier women? Because according to the crowd here that should solve all your problems. (It won't.)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/21 03:00 AM
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Not always!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/21 02:43 AM
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They must, but fortunately for the rest of us they don't socialize much.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/21 02:10 AM
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I do both casual sex and serious relationships and honestly... reading this sub is fucking wild because I'm not convinced any of these nerds have ever dated or had sex. It's not actually that bad out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/21 02:02 AM
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I was responding directly to this, from OP: I challenge you to match with a couple of the "ugly" guys out there. See the difference in effort they will put into communicating with you on average.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/21 02:01 AM
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So as a woman, do you want to fuck a hot guy who wants sex, or an ugly guy (who’s also probably shit in bed), who wants sex, but pretends to want a relationship because the opportunity to causal sex isn’t there? I keep saying they’re telling on themselves and don’t realize it. It's wild that they think "you can get used for sex, or you can get used for sex by someone much uglier, who will ADDITIONALLY manipulate you and waste your time by pretending to like you" is some kind of great argument in…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/21 01:16 AM
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I do? I'm responding to the OP saying we should all stop ignoring those men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/21 12:27 AM
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How? I just said "ugly men aren't all saints" which is objectively true. And also objectively true of attractive men!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 11:12 PM
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I'm not! You don't have to attach a negative personality to hot guys to be bitter that women like them! I'm just saying, this idea that ugly guys are nicer or more respectful is bullshit. Lots of nasty ugly guys out there, lots of very nice hotties, and vise versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 10:54 PM
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"ugly guys are super sweet and will be nice to you if you only give them a chance!!" "also ugly guys will only have a relationship with you because they can't get laid otherwise, they don't actually even like you." CHOOSE ONE, PPD.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 10:49 PM
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So he's going to be resentful of me for having options he didn't, and he'll give into temptation the first time a new person pays attention to him? Not saying that's what will definitely happen because it absolutely might not, just that assuming people will behave a certain way based on their looks alone is just astrology for idiots.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 10:40 PM
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I was on OKC back in the day when anyone could message anyone and I got loads of propositions from hideous men who were often well outside my age range. The way a lot of posters here seem to think that ugly dudes are all caring, attentive saints is frankly fucking delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 09:18 PM
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Hiring a sex worker is incredibly low-risk, especially if you're not an idiot about it. Book someone well-established who screens and you'll never find yourself in a sting. It's not rocket science.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 10:52 PM
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Dress how you like? Just saying, it's weird that whenever this comes up it's always about the woman's choice to dress slutty and no one questions the man's choice to walk around in incredibly boring clothes every day. Like my boyfriend routinely wears crop tops and leggings, it is something I like about him a great deal but gosh shopping for his presents is difficult when most places that sell men's clothing have the DULLEST fucking selection.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 09:31 PM
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Why men don’t wear cropped T shirts, run 100m topless with shortest short possible. Maybe they should start? Idk why whenever this comes up -- among feminists, among traditionalists, whatever -- the answer is always that women should put on more clothes and not that men should dress more interestingly. Honestly male refusal to see themselves as sex objects and dress accordingly makes them so much less attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 07:31 PM
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I've slept with loads of stunningly attractive men and most of them put in the effort. I kick them out if they don't. I've definitely encountered selfish men but it doesn't seem to correlate with looks at all. Either they like doing it or they care about my pleasure or... they don't. That's kinda it. The only real pattern I've noticed is that guys with minor dick problems tend to be more generous, and a lot of those guys have also been really attractive and pretty slutty, so. I guess college guy…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 07:29 PM
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Not really, my parents have different last names and it's literally never been a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 05:36 PM
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Am woman, have had a bunch of sex. The guys who asked me what I liked always ended up with the best results. Which makes sense, because sexuality is diverse and being generally good in bed doesn't mean you automatically know what works for any one person -- although it probably does mean you're better at reading reactions and adjusting accordingly. Which is just a less efficient non-verbal version of the "what are you into?" conversation anyway. Knowing what someone likes won't take you instantl…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 06:53 PM
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Statistically more women lost their jobs due to COVID. Anyway, as I said, it's often not the joblessness so much as the behaviors around joblessness. Similarly, I'd understand being frustrated by someone with health problems they exacerbated by refusing to seek help or follow medical instructions to treat. Some weird conspiracy theorizing around female mental health, there. That's not actually a thing and you know it. Someone crazy enough to seek mental health care they don't need just to "get a…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 08:35 PM
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Illness is out of the person's control. Joblessness might not be a choice, exactly, but people make choices about how to handle it. Someone who sits around all day, not job searching, and not taking on more household duties while their spouse works full time... probably deserves to be divorced. Anyway the sweeping conclusions you're drawing are inherently ridiculous because lots of men do stay with sick partners and lots of women stay with jobless men, even when the joblessness is the man's faul…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 07:05 PM
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Just because it comes from a place of genuine hurt doesn't mean it's reasonable, or that you're expressing it in a reasonable way.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 12:44 AM
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What kind of answer would you accept? Would she need to have had a bad enough experience for you to be okay with it? What about a mildly shitty experience? What if she has no idea and she just went off it a while before you came on the scene?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 12:27 AM
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attempt to emotionally blackmail
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 11:59 PM
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So you'd attempt to emotionally blackmail your girlfriend into doing something she didn't enjoy, even if you were happy with your sex life before you found out she enjoyed it with someone else? Okay, I get why you're mad about older women having higher standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 11:51 PM
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How tf would he know that? Was he inside her brain when it happened? Anyway people don't like the same things forever. Sometimes a bad experience ruins it or tastes simply change. Sexuality isn't static. I like things I used to hate and dislike things I used to like. It happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 11:36 PM
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What if you didn't like doing those things and only did them so as to avoid a massive fight / hours of sulking / threats of cheating / actual violence?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 11:08 PM
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Maybe not, but there's a lot of "anything you did for HIM you have to also do for ME" and the truth is that abusive people get their partners to do a lot of things for them. It's a big part of why they abuse! Expecting your partner to do things for you because they got bullied into doing those things in the past... is arguably a type of abuse. Or at the very least, a type of way to be a shitty partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 10:49 PM
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The specifics don't matter, insert any length of time or relationship history you consider acceptable, then. You learn things from the non-abusive relationships, too -- a person treating you well might inspire you to not accept less in the future.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 09:45 PM
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Imagine going through a couple of serious relationships in your twenties, having them not work out because they're either bad relationships or just bad for you, learning some things about the kind of people you want to be with and which red flags you shouldn't ignore and then being told, "well you're going bald and your dick doesn't work quite as well as it used to, time to erase all that hard-won knowledge from your brain. Also if you don't let your current girlfriend treat you like your most t…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 07:40 PM
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They don't care. I don't care very much either, tbh, and it's got nothing to do with why I'm pro-decrim. I guess it's nice that they have the option to pay for it, although some of them are sexless for good reason and make terrible clients.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 06:27 PM
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Nope! Criminalization on either side makes people more vulnerable to trafficking and less able to seek help when they are trafficked while creating more dangerous conditions for everyone who sells sex, regardless of whether they are trafficked or not. Just look at the example I gave about the two sex workers being charged with pimping for sharing an hotel room, which is something that very much happens in Nordic Model countries. Maybe neither of them could afford it on their own, but together th…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 06:21 PM
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In general I think people are kinda hysterical about porn use. I don't actually think it's related at all. People who have sex and relationships still watch it -- I know I do. It's fine. "Porn addiction" is an Evangelical invention that's not based on actual science. It's probably not even real. I blame high cost of living and low wages that cause people to spend all their time working, and increasing online interaction rather than in-person hangouts. All of the other conspiracy theories I've se…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 05:35 PM
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They're convinced that sex work existing is what makes men sexist. These people consider men who see sex workers disgusting and frankly I don't think it even occurs to them that those men could be their own husbands and boyfriends. So sex workers are not competition so much as helpless brainwashed victims who are also somehow entirely responsible for their sexist boss at their office jobs. Yes, this is very dumb. What actually happens under Nordic model is that clients get stuck with community s…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 05:10 PM
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Something being "all over the pillsphere" makes it less credible, not more.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 04:32 PM
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"Beta orbiter" is a bullshit phrase made up to describe men who are friends with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 04:27 PM
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It wasn't a personal attack and I did read the post. It's entirely detached from reality and frankly I am CONCERNED about you and some of the other responders. You're the one speaking derisively about men having friendships with women, which one of us is the misandrist here?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 06:17 PM
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They genuinely enjoy their friendships with the women in question. Like I know it's hard for some of the nerds here to understand this because they're obsessed with sex and hate women and have no fucking concept of a normal social life, but most of those "beta orbiters" are actually just having perfectly pleasant mutually beneficial friendships. There's no lying about the chance of future sex, there's no holding out false hope or whatever, sometimes normal people just have normal friendships. Fr…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 05:40 PM
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This seems to be a much bigger issue with the men here specifically, but they really seem to be utterly convinced that a woman's sexuality is entirely a reaction to a specific man. LOLOLOLOL NO IT IS NOT. What she did with you / how fast has wayyyyyyy less to do with you than you think it does. I've never been tempted into casual sex when I wasn't in the mood for it already, and the things I like in bed don't change depending on who I'm having sex with. They also seem to have trouble understandi…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 05:12 PM
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I have a LARGE sample size and have a hard time coming up with a percentage. I wanna say like 20% but more like 10% if I'm talking about exceptionally fantastic. They went down on me a lot, very enthusiastically. Most of them also made a point of initiating a conversation about what we were both into. Mostly kinda type-A and had their shit together, with a couple of glaring exceptions. Generous outside the bedroom, not just in terms of picking up tabs but also doing big favors for friends and th…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 06:45 PM
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Every time dudes on here talk about "sexy dangerous drug dealers" I feel the need to remind them that drug dealers first and foremost are people who have drugs and spend a lot of time around intoxicated people who want drugs.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/21 07:03 PM
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My mom did, part of why she held out hope for grandkids for so long. My most baby-crazy friend changed her mind and doesn't want them anymore. This is someone who told me in college that she'd get a sperm donor if she found herself single in her thirties.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 02:12 AM
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Biology has a double standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 11:46 PM
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Duh? Did anyone ever think anything else?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 07:55 PM
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Nah fuck those puritanical TERFs, they just happen to be reasonable in this one particular case.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 07:54 PM
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I didn't say no one is fine with it? Lots of them are. Lots of them would like to but can't afford it, so they work full time. Lots of women choose to keep working even if they could technically afford to stay home. A lot of career-minded men prefer similarly driven women, even if it means outsourcing childcare. It's really weird to pretend that everyone complaining about division of labor is a SAHM when most of them have jobs. It's also weird to pretend that providers don't spend time with thei…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 08:57 PM
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If they have kids he needs to do more than that. Can't do childcare? Don't become a father. Don't work your 40 hours a week and expect 24/7 childcare and housekeeping in exchange. Most women aren't SAHMs unless they have kids, even women with kids aren't usually SAHMs because a single income isn't enough to support a family. Idk where you people get this idea that provider/homemaker relationships are the default. They haven't been for a long time. You're the one who said that all she has to do i…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 07:45 PM
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Wait so at the end of this I still have to be a parent but I just get to skip the pregnancy part?? It's not a person, I don't want to be a parent, I don't want to give it up for adoption and go through life knowing I have a kid walking around somewhere. I would murder that embryo in a heartbeat.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 06:16 PM
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I despise FDS for a whole plethora of reasons but you're entirely wrong about what's wrong with it. It's not unreasonable to expect your partner to contribute to the house, spend time with your family, and occasionally give you a ride home from the bar. That's normal? Like it's pretty normal even with strict provider/homemaker couples, obviously even more so with couples where both members work full time. And yeah, most men do care about more than pretty / feminine / nice. If you don't care abou…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 06:11 PM
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If you're basing your relationships on the person's statistical likelihood of cheating you're a fucking nerd and I want nothing to do with your penis anyway. And it's interesting how that link doesn't actually direct to a survey, and while the source comes up easily with a google the paper does not. I did find a paper from the same source stating that men are twice as likely to cheat as women, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 07:21 AM
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lol I'm like the only person here who agrees with you and it turns out you don't even agree with you
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 12:28 AM
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Yeah, exactly. Why on earth would I ever want to be in the same room with you? I could bet loads of money that that's not the only place where our values differ. Why am I supposed to give a shit about what someone I don't care about thinks of me?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 12:13 AM
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Yeah, I do think people who are uptight about those things are being idiots. It is kinda the same. I don't disagree! If someone came crying to me about their partner's secret history of promiscuous/paid sex I'd tell them to get over it. I still don't think they're required to date people they don't wanna date. And on my end, why would I date someone who holds such incompatible views? Like I think a man who is bothered by my sexual history is a weak little bitch and I don't wanna have a relations…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 10:38 PM
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I did a brief search and found nothing about gender but a bunch of stuff about conservatives being more susceptible to misinformation. Since in the US at least men are more likely to hold conservative beliefs it seems like the opposite might be true.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 05:57 PM
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No, I don't believe this. Calling it "dehumanizing to men" is a wild stretch but it's a stupid strategy and they're missing out. The "I don't want to and I don't have to, so I don't" crowd actually has a reasonable point but I'm not one of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 05:41 PM
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People still pay for phone sex. I make a fair amount of money off it without trying too hard. Most of the money made on OnlyFans is from one-on-one interactions. Much cheaper, easier, and less risky than hiring an escort but there's some sort of interaction. Basically phone sex but with photo and video.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/21 07:19 PM
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The vast majority of common knowledge about "porn addiction" was invented by Evangelicals with no medical or psychiatric background who stripped the religious language and replaced it with pseudoscience in order to give their bullshit secular appeal. There are unhealthy ways to use porn, but none of them are "addictions." The escalation of extreme fantasies is mostly a myth, so is the ED stuff, honestly for every widely known claim about porn use you can find very few studies and they'll either …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/21 07:52 PM
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Are you under the impression that women don't get frustrated listening to their friends vent about the same issue constantly without taking steps to solve it? Because lololololol if that's your idea of how female friendship works you don't really understand anything about how female friendship works.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 10:37 PM
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Again, what you're describing as "being an emotional tampon" is the normal support most people give to the people they care about.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 10:16 PM
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I suspect these guys who equate basic friendship stuff like "listening to someone you care about discuss their problems" to "being an emotional tampon" aren't particularly good friends to anyone, regardless of gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 05:36 PM
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Late teens to earlyish twenties.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 07:11 PM
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They'd be happier with someone they're LESS attracted to?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 05:59 PM
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But you're wrong, and they're happy. Your opinion doesn't matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 05:47 AM
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Why should hot people in happy relationships with people they're attracted to care what you think?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 05:16 AM
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If someone with options chooses a fat person, they probably like the fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 05:10 AM
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lmao have you ever even seen a 30 year old woman
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 04:37 AM
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My mother strongly encouraged me to "play the field" and "know myself" before making any permanent commitments. She's a serial monogamist who spent a lot of her twenties through early thirties in a relationship with a man who developed pretty serious alcoholism while they were together. She met my dad in her mid-thirties and the they have an incredibly happy and loving relationship to this day. They both attribute a lot of their success to the fact that they had both lived very full lives before…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 04:33 AM
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I can promise you there were heterosexual men sucking dick to save themselves and their loved ones. Might have been less of them, but that definitely happened too. I don't blame anyone for doing what they need to do to survive.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 07:14 PM
1

Look how ignoring the anti-vaxxers and Q people turned out.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 06:07 PM
1

Pretty much! There's a well-documented TRP-to-Nazi pipeline and the Nazis agree with them on a lot of gender stuff. This sub gets wildly racist every purge week. There's really not much difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 09:51 PM
0

Yeah, it should be banned. I also don't think platforms should allow Nazis or anti-vaxxers or Qanon shit. People are too dumb and too prone to falling for conspiracy theories.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 07:48 PM
3

Interestingly, in female pick-up the goal is to make a man want an LTR when he otherwise might not and the line is not an arbitrary amount of time but the point at which he first shows some serious effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 05:47 PM
2

Terps will ignore anything that doesn't fit their dumbfuck philosophy. Some of them are actively disingenuous and the rest are just very stupid and gullible, but the results are the same. In this case they like to claim that it's only young women who like feminine men, but that's not at all true and in any case, they're obsessed with young women. Another aspect: despite what terps may claim, TRP is more of a power fantasy than an actual dating strategy. It's about giving followers a chance to im…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 05:30 PM
0

Testing exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 01:27 AM
1

I've had sex with lots of strangers in both bathrooms and bedrooms and like... the bedroom is better.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/21 01:52 AM
1

The focus on bathroom sex on this sub is wild. It's uncomfortable and kinda inconsiderate to other people and sometimes it gets you thrown out of the bar? Go home and fuck in a bed like an adult.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/21 12:21 AM
2

Stumbled across my ex on Tinder and texted him to choose better photos. The guy is absolutely stunning IRL but I would never have swiped right on that profile.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 05:14 PM
2

I have a history of being pretty good at sussing that stuff out relatively quickly, and I've only gotten better with experience. Why wreck my dating experience with that type of neuroticism when chances are I'll sort it out before things get too far? I had another response to this post from a man complaining that "good men" get treated like predators and I kinda think that guy was being a baby but I also get that it doesn't feel good to be treated with suspicion when you're just trying to get to…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/21 02:38 AM
2

I have depression and have dated someone whose depression was more severe than mine so I've been on both sides of this. The depression didn't turn me off but I did eventually get sick of his refusal to seek treatment. He cried on me all the time and never wanted to have sex but absolutely would not provide me with any kind of emotional support when I needed it. It sucked! (The sex thing was a big deal for me, clearly all the crying didn't "turn me off" in that sense.) The claim that men are out …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/21 04:52 PM
1

Exes are not typical first date conversation, and even if they do get mentioned there's no reason you need to talk about your own history. Just steer the conversation in a different direction. Rejection is part of dating for everyone, even people you might think of as incredibly desirable. I promise you your virginity is not the only thing someone might bounce over! This is why dating is stressful and it's really not something that can be helped. A major reason inexperience is unattractive is be…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 08:04 PM
1

I don't think there's anything terribly wrong with lying about it, personally. Women in the same boat lie about it too, for the exact same reasons, and female inexperience is definitely less stigmatized. I wouldn't consider it first date conversation. By the time you're at the point where that stuff would be coming up at all you're probably at the point where you can comfortably open up about it. I don't think it's unethical to hide it even at that point, although it would be unwise to represent…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 06:52 PM
2

As far as I can tell you're mad that your free dating advice wasn't comprehensive enough and I literally don't care about that, so!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 05:15 PM
2

It's a prerequisite to be nice or at least able to fake nice. It's not what makes people attracted to you. This doesn't seem difficult to understand????
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/21 06:54 PM
3

I think they're pretending that "be a nice guy" is intended to be solid, comprehensive dating advice and getting mad about it because they're stupid and need an excuse to be an angry. It's not?? Obviously????
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/21 05:32 PM
3

It's good life advice, and it won't hurt your dating chances regardless of whatever bullshit conspiracy shit the terps might spew. Is it the only thing you can possibly do to help yourself out? Nope!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/21 05:18 PM
2

I mean you can go off your own judgement and be right a lot of the time! That's what most people do. Anyway someone who knows they have a bad reputation will go to lengths to mitigate the effects, either by pursuing women from outside his social circle and/or preemptively smearing his accusers.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 06:30 PM
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How often do you actually have that information, though? And if he's being perfectly sweet to you, why would you take his bitter ex's word over his? Especially if he gives you an explanation and his actions seem to demonstrate that he's a perfectly lovely guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/21 07:51 PM
8

Yeah, because you don't know it's rat poison. And when one person successfully tricks you into eating rat poison you might get understandably nervous whenever other people try to serve you food.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/21 07:40 PM
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Those guys aren't shitty in the beginning though. They hide it til she's emotionally invested. It's incredibly common for abusers to be over-the-top sweet and romantic in the beginning in order to move the relationship forward as quickly as possible. Abusive behavior often surfaces for the first time immediately after major milestones like cohabitation or first anniversaries.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/21 07:21 PM
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Fucking a guy because he's decent is like eating a meal because it doesn't have rat poison in it. Lack of rat poison is a prerequisite, but not the thing that makes your mouth water. If someone tricks you into eating rat poison no one will argue that you secretly love rat poison.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/21 05:30 PM
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Childfree women don't have to worry about finding a husband before the clock runs out and will never get stuck in a relationship "for the kids." There's nothing the manosphere finds more enraging than a woman who doesn't need a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/21 05:21 PM
2

I've joked before that terps think all women are findoms because findoms are the only women they interact with but like... I thought it was a joke.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 10:03 PM
1

No??? Some people just don't get interested in having kids til they're older, or they hold off until they're financially stable. Others end up in longterm relationships with women who are unwilling/unable and only have kids in their second marriage. Or they stay with her but can't afford the fertility treatments until later in life. Some start having kids early and just never stop, or get hit with a surprise baby late in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/21 10:08 PM
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How old were you when this happened? Because I have a theory that a lot of "casual sex isn't fun" rhetoric comes from women who tried it out when they were young and inexperienced, with partners who were also young and inexperienced. Kicking the guy out is a better experience than putting pressure on him to do something he may not enjoy or bothering to service someone who won't return the favor. Learning that improved my experiences pretty massively.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/21 04:28 AM
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I don't orgasm from penetration, but I usually have orgasms when I have casual sex. I just kick guys out if they don't go down. Most of them do it unprompted and it's never an issue. You can have decent casual sex as a woman, but it's not for everyone and it does require you to be kinda assertive about your needs and it maybe requires you to have a certain type, which I guess I do. Location could also be an issue. I dunno how rare it is that everything lines up but I've managed to make everythin…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/21 03:36 AM
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Right? Like yes, obviously, that should be part of the definition. But yeah if they really think the misogynistic cops who get skeptical about visibly injured women ("are you sure it wasn't just rough sex?") are gonna be understanding about a man who was "forced to penetrate" boy oh boy are they about to be disillusioned as hell.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/21 11:09 PM
3

I get catcalled literally no matter what I wear, might as well wear something I like. Plus sometimes it's hot outside.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/21 05:05 PM
1

Am I wrong though?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 02:53 AM
14

I feel like it's weirder that so many anti-abortion people are also anti-BC. Birth control prevents abortions. If they want to fuss over an embryo that can't implant, fine, but if they were truly anti-abortion they'd at least be handing out condoms.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 08:58 AM
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Pro-lifers are anti-birth control, in general. You can't get through to them with logic. They don't like it when you have sex without making babies and they'll find excuses for why it's bad no matter how you do it. I'm guessing the number of unplanned pregnancies will go down, which is a good thing. I don't think it'll affect sex or relationships in general. The introduction of reliable birth control made a difference because it was new but it's not like there were any major societal shifts when…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 08:42 AM
1

Women take it personally all the time. I've dated a couple guys with chronic dick problems and they'd all had issues with this in the past. I've taken it personally, although I try not to and I definitely try not to vocalize that even when I do feel it because I know the pressure doesn't help. There are lots of reasons that ED happens, very often it's no one's fault and no one should be blamed for it. Vaginal dryness, when it's a problem, tends to be a consistent one. The women who experience it…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 08:36 AM
1

So he says, "I'm into you," and she tells him, "I don't feel the same way but I'd like to keep being friends." He agrees and she takes him at his word because she assumes he is capable of making his own decisions about what he wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 02:37 AM
1

So he has 0 agency and she is expected to be a mindreader whose choices are subjecting her friend to a completely out-of-the-blue "hey I never want to bang you" or cutting him off entirely.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/21 07:06 PM
2

He got super weird and awkward around me, which was annoying since hanging out with my friends often meant seeing him. It wasn't anything dramatic, it was just kinda depressing since there was literally no reason for it and we'd previously had a chill friendship.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/21 08:21 PM
2

Yeah, mostly it's about whether I'm attracted to someone or not. Although if we have a lot of mutual friends and I don't think we'd make a good couple I won't go making my social life messy for a bit of sex. Like there comes a point where I'd have to have strong feelings and a lot of optimism about where they might lead in order to pursue anything. A low-key flirtatious friendship can be a lot fun, honestly. And if we do ever drift apart and/or become less socially entangled to the point where I…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/21 08:08 PM
1

I think he was exaggerating for effect there but yeah it's gonna take a big chunk out of your schedule if you work out heavily, esp if you include travel + shower time. And a lot of the fit guys I know aren't just doing the gym or jogging, they're also doing activities like amateur sports leagues or hiking trips so that takes up even more time.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/21 02:21 AM
5

No, it's just that men aren't oppressed and only the whiniest, dumbest ones believe otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/21 12:58 AM
2

You've been brainwashed by the internet. Go outside.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/21 12:58 AM
2

Yeah, but I've dated fit guys and they do spend a lot of time working out. Also money, depending on their particular hobbies. They might eat normally when out with friends but at home day-to-day is a different story.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/21 12:57 AM
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With that said, a man who's eating raw broccoli, boiled chicken and working out 3 hours a day Can't really go out to restaurants or bars with your boyfriend, can't cook anything interesting at home, and his schedule is packed with gym stuff. But sure, it's his expectations that put people off. Fit guy wouldn't date you if he weren't attracted to you, and major weight gain would be a problem in most relationships. This "expectations" theory makes no goddamn sense when "massively inconvenient life…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/21 10:38 PM
1

Lol I bet you actually believe that. Cute!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/21 10:31 PM
2

Because men aren't actually oppressed, and most men are smart enough to know this. The extremely dumb ones are a small, loud minority and they're mostly too dumb to be effective.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/21 08:19 PM
3

Okay, so they're ugly and that's causing their problem. They're not not getting dates because they're "too nice."
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 12:43 AM
1

Legit I suspect a lot of these guys who claim they "cried once and turned her off forever" had serious untreated mental health issues and got dumped by a partner who was sick of playing therapist. Or they were gonna get dumped regardless for unrelated reasons and latched onto that one time they cried because it paints their ex as a bad, unsympathetic person. I had an ex who was in the former camp, he cried on me all the time and I did eventually get sick of his refusal to seek treatment but the …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 10:07 PM
3

Being hot alone isn't enough. Neither is "just" being nice. Being nice is the bare minimum to be in my life as a friend or a date or a fuckbuddy. Being at least kind of hot is a bare minimum for being in my life in any romantic or sexual capacity. Lots of hot guys are very nice! I've dated a bunch of them! It's been cool!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 10:03 PM
2

You can be hot as shit, I'm still not dating you or fucking you if you're not also nice to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 09:26 PM
4

I've dated lots of very attractive men and virtually all of them were nice. The ones who weren't kept that aspect of their personality hidden til further down the line. They were perfectly lovely in the early stages of dating. If they hadn't been we wouldn't have dated. But here you have some poor dumbfuck with nothing to offer who assumes those men treat me poorly because they're tall and attractive. He assumes this because it feels good. He can believe that the reason for his lack of dating su…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 07:54 PM
1

You don't know what the term "whataboutism" actually means, do you?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 12:27 AM
4

It's wild what the guys here have convinced themselves the left actually believes. It's clear they haven't looked for themselves, just absorbed propaganda.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 04:53 PM
1

Okay but you're whining on reddit and they're out in the streets fighting for reforms that would protect the entire population, so which one of you really cares about the issue?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 04:50 PM
1

Like you might not think this has anything to do with capitalism -- and you are laughably, hilariously wrong -- but it's hard to argue that the people who are upset with a system that reduces human value down to earning potential don't care about human value being reduced down to earning potential.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 07:18 AM
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lol you very obviously don't know anything about the case aside from the fact that the police killed someone and you're on their side. I know this because Daunte Wright was killed by a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 06:24 AM
5

This one was definitely a murder, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 05:39 AM
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You think the "woke crowd" doesn't care about overcriminalization? I'm in that crowd and my twitter feed is all defund the police/abolish prisons all day every day. People are in the streets LITERALLY RIGHT NOW protesting the murder of Daunte Wright, who is a man. They also do a lot of yelling about capitalism and how unhealthy it is that we center our lives around our jobs. Alimony is rare these days, goes both ways, and frankly anyone who puts their career on the backburner to support a spouse…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 12:52 AM
0

TRP is just standard sexism repackaged with a bunch of stupid buzzwords. Countries where people are more sexist are gonna agree with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/21 05:59 PM
1

Neither. Which is fine, because IRL I don't have to choose. Stop watching bad high school movies and go outside.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/21 07:20 PM
5

They have some weird ideas about what it's like to date as a hot person. I am a hot person, I date other hot people, it ends up as a pretty even playing field.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/21 07:28 PM
2

Shockingly, most people don't care whether or not they are attracted to their own children.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/21 06:10 PM
10

I mean that people assume men are universally a whole lot hornier than they actually are.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/21 09:26 PM
20

Performance anxiety? Body image issues? Being too lazy to please a partner and go through all the physical activity required for intercourse when there's an option to rub one out real fast? Male sex drive is vastly overrated, particularly post-honeymoon period. There's a reason rub and tugs will always be popular and it's because that's an interaction that requires basically nothing besides showing up and paying. Masturbation is even easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/21 08:44 PM
1

I've made a necessary choice in accordance with what the Holy internet has told me; same old dating for young men, 90/10 rule, stuff like that has basically molded my view of people to the point that I have absolutely no qualms anymore with paying for sex other than an aching desire that things were better. Lololololol you let a bunch of internet dumbasses convince you to give up on dating at 21. That's hilarious. Anyway young men have always been occasional customers of sex workers and the main…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/21 05:51 PM
6

Sometimes I think the posters here have spent their entire lives trapped in a basement watching bad teen movies on a loop. They really have a hard time wrapping their minds around the idea that there are plenty of nice hot people and also plenty of terrible nerds.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/21 04:20 PM
2

I've had multiple female friends pull back from our friendship after getting a partner -- sometimes quite dramatically -- and I'm a straight woman. Unfortunately, some people are really only capable of being good friends when they're single. They just want to spend all their free time with their partner, especially if they don't have a lot of it. Sometimes they come back after the honeymoon period wears off, sometimes they don't. If the partner is the jealous type then male/female friendships ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/21 10:40 PM
1

You realize medical hiring discrimination is illegal for really good reasons, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/21 04:49 AM
1

So you know nothing about body acceptance besides what a bunch of very stupid misogynists on the internet told you? That checks out.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/21 08:55 PM
-2

Do you really think "body acceptance" is just a bunch of fat ladies yelling about how they need to be perceived as sexy? You don't think employment discrimination, occasionally deadly medical discrimination, and casual cruelty from people they're not even trying to fuck doesn't come into it anywhere?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/21 06:54 PM
1

Body acceptance is just fat women wanting to be seen as "sexy" when they aren't sexy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/21 06:48 PM
2

You people literally can't conceive of women having any concerns outside of dating and romance, can you?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/21 05:26 PM
-1

You might find that people are actually more willing to be friendly to strangers post-COVID, since we've all been limiting our socializing for the last year. Currently it's still extra stressful to be approached by strangers compared to before, since any of them could potentially infect you with a deadly illness just by sharing air with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 02:28 AM
10

Cold approaching in a bar/club is perfectly fine, as long as you're not pushy about it and back off when the woman is clearly uninterested. That last part is vital and the fact that so many men utterly fail at it explains a lot of the animosity certain women have towards cold approaches. There are certain places (parks, public transportation, the street) where it's fine at times but creepy late at night with very few people around. Use your judgement. You'll also do better striking up a conversa…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/21 11:15 PM
1

Like I said, an inexperienced man can be very hot under certain circumstances. I don't judge late bloomers. I also would not consider a man "inexperienced" if he'd had sex with one or two people within long-term relationships. There's a practical difficulty associated with teaching someone how to sex, and at an age where most men come without that difficulty I'd probably find it a little off-putting. Not a dealbreaker, but a concern.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/21 02:39 AM
2

I have more respect for the ones who admit it's insecurity than the ones who spout a bunch of bullshit justifications, but I want nothing to do with any of them. They just don't seem very interesting?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/21 12:34 AM
2

I like pretty boy hipsters.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/21 10:50 PM
1

It's not hard but it takes more than dick. Probably has more to do with who I'm banging than anything else. It's unusual for me to run into someone who doesn't make a solid effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/21 07:16 PM
1

Look, if you can just get her off, you're doing better than most, probably the last guy, and probably in her top 10% of lovers, at least. Your advice here is actually decent but lol no @ this bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/21 05:51 PM
0

Virginity isn't real for anyone but I probably wouldn't date someone super sexually inexperienced. I'm old enough that it's a red flag if someone has held off this long and I've gotten accustomed to men with a certain baseline of knowledge. I have a thing about religious men so the idea of seducing an Evangelical and getting him to give up his commitment to God is actually super hot in theory but sounds like a disaster IRL.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/21 05:08 PM
4

Because a bunch of evangelicals managed to tamp down the Jesus talk and sound authoritative enough to convince a large chunk of the secular population that "porn addiction" is a real thing. Even men have bought into this round of the porn-related moral panic. It's all very dumb. Aside from religious women and radfems though most women only really complain about porn use / "porn addiction" when they're getting dead bedroomed by a partner who jerks off a bunch.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 09:14 PM
3

Can't I just love femboys?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/21 11:36 PM
4

Weird analogy. I doubt many tomboyish women would be terribly offended if the guy said, "yeah, I always go for tomboys." And like I said, the vast majority of them seem entirely unbothered.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/21 11:29 PM
6

It also seems I quite possibly attract girls who aren't into traditionally masculine men. (which kinda sucks for me, but it sure beats having literally no one attracted to you) Lmao my favorite way to annoy men is to explain to them immediately after we've had sex that I'm exclusively attracted to effiminate men, which is 100% true. Most of them respond along the lines of "yeah that checks out" but a few of them get annoyed by it. It's also worth noting that by and large these men have had a fai…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/21 08:23 PM
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I will make the first move but I'll lose interest pretty quickly if it's not reciprocated. I don't like chasing people who aren't that into me and I refuse to do it. I don't like being chased when I'm not into the person and I'm not trying to put someone else in that position. All my relationships have started very intensely and I lose romantic interest if they don't. This is why I've never caught feelings for an FWB.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/21 08:34 PM
1

Yeah it's shitty. Blame capitalism, not the picky ladies. He wasn't under the impression that things were going well between us and he reacted pretty reasonably when I did confess it later. I wouldn't have been surprised if he'd been planning something similar. Out-of-the-blue would have been a lot more disconcerting.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/21 07:59 PM
1

It's not the only factor and those social pressures didn't just apply to women, although women got the brunt of them. There's something to the fact that young people of all genders socialize much much less in person than they used to, and also that people work very long hours. But yeah, sorry, removing external pressures that cause people to stay in longterm relationships is gonna result in less longterm relationships. Let's not pretend that's not true! Let's also not pretend that it's a bad thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/21 10:24 PM
3

The Equal Pay Act didn't solve workplace discrimination or end sexism -- there were still serious barriers to women reaching their full earning potential and enormous amounts of social pressure to settle down and get married. That stuff didn't start to seriously recede until the nineties. So yeah, take away the two huge factors forcing women to seek out and remain in unhappy relationships and you'll have more single people. It is what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/21 07:29 PM
1

If you can't feel desired just because you think your partner has had sex with more attractive people, you need therapy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/21 05:43 AM
1

"Whaaaa, I can't stand the fact that my girlfriend has had sex with hotter guys and I've invented an entire stupid philosophy in order to justify my insecurities because whining is less work than therapy."
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/21 10:13 PM
1

"It's not 100% a response to a specific man" doesn't mean it has nothing to do with him. But: Are you on vacation? Recently dumped? Are you depressed or bored or lonely or drunk? Is it the week before your period when your sex drive goes way up? Was your most recent hookup terrible or fantastic? Has it been a while? What have you been masturbating about lately? I also know this might be difficult for you to understand, but women aren't a monolith and can feel very different ways about casual sex…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/21 06:38 PM
1

You told me it's "good" that I'm consistent, so you clearly have some feelings about what's morally correct! I do think one of the biggest fallacies I see here is that a lot of men seem incapable of conceiving of female sexuality as anything other than a direct response to a specific man, and that means all of her sexual decisions are a reflection of how she feels about him. This is not how it actually works.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/21 10:43 PM
5

Do you have a problem with sexual strategy when men do it?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/21 10:24 PM
8

That's not "most" women by any means. All my friends who have casual sex had sex with their partners very quickly.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/21 10:18 PM
5

I've slept with every guy I've dated immediately and every man I've been in a relationship with made it very clear that it was something he wanted. Relationship guy won too!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/21 10:11 PM
7

So what? I'm getting sexually serviced by someone I'm attracted to. We're both winning.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/21 10:06 PM
33

I wouldn't date anyone I wouldn't have casual sex with. I will 100% have casual sex with people I don't want to date as long as they're basically pleasant. There are a lot of incompatibilities that would present major problems in a serious relationship but are a non-issue in a casual situation. Like it doesn't matter if a casual partner is kinda boring conversationally, or if we have completely different life goals, or I don't like his friends. You know how you have perfectly pleasant acquaintan…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/21 08:24 PM
1

It's not his fault he's dumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/21 08:20 PM
2

Ugly guys sound like a goddamn nightmare based on the bitter shit I see here. Anyway, you said you don't care because I don't bang uggos, so why should I bother to go into detail?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/21 04:25 PM
1

I don't date ugly guys but I've dated a pretty good range and attractiveness IME doesn't mean jack shit for how they'll treat you. The really hot ones tend to be more secure in themselves and less prone to game-playing but they can also be arrogant. It evens out.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/21 12:21 AM
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I have a lot of escort friends all over the map in terms of price and nah, the guys who see expensive escorts show up stinky too. High end escorts are just more likely to put up with it. I'm an expensive pro-domme (so much less expensive than a high end escort, but not cheap) and I encounter this occasionally although I'm not getting as intimate so it doesn't affect me as much.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 03:16 AM
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lmaoooooooo
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 09:08 PM
1

Lots of men have been in relationships with men! And the men (and they're always, always men) who give that advice are emotionally stunted idiots.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 09:07 PM
1

lol have you ever been in a relationship with a man?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 08:52 PM
1

Please, tell me all about your experience being an attractive woman in public so I can correct myself!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 08:11 PM
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It's a lot of it! The reason women end up acting as their partners' sole confidantes is because men don't give each other that type of emotional support and are afraid to ask for it from their male friends. It's not a good situation, and it's not even entirely their fault, but yeah, it's a big part of the reason women do better after breakups.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 08:01 PM
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If I do that I just get bothered by dudes I don't want to fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 07:37 PM
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It's "emotional labor" in both directions, it's just that women complain about it more because they're asked to do a lot more of it and don't get it back in return.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 06:23 PM
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Yeah, because they get a break from taking care of their partners and their partners miss getting taken care of.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 06:53 AM
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A lot of redpillers desperately need to believe in the myth that most people in relationships are miserable and sexually unsatisfied so their entire dumb philosophy makes any sense. None of this shit is true. Leave your internet hole and experience the real world.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 05:49 AM
1

Do you like that woman? Do you enjoy spending time with her? Or are you pretending to like her so you can bang?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 04:25 AM
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It takes effort to sleep around a bunch. The nerds here love to fantasize about a Chad who gets laid without trying but that's not true. I'm an attractive woman and it even takes a certain amount of effort for me to fuck around. They're just spreading their effort over multiple people, going on dates that don't lead to anything, striking out with people they're interested in, etc. Less effort per person but way more effort overall. Vs someone in a nice relationship with a person they like who ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/21 08:41 PM
5

I've felt a lack of spark with a guy who ticked every single one of my boxes, including being attractive and good at sex. I spent months being a little bamboozled by myself over it before I decided it just wasn't meant to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/21 04:31 AM
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The male sex drive is wildly overrated, definitely after the initial honeymoon period but even sometimes before that. Admitting to lower sex drive is emasculating so they all pretend to be perv monsters but a lot of them really just want a single round basic missionary once or twice a week. Would be fine if not for the false advertising.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/21 08:22 PM
2

I have an incredibly strong preference for feminine men, to the point where I find too much overt masculinity a turn-off. The men I've been involved with have almost all had fairly extensive sexual histories. Women often love feminine men, but other men don't. Tbh a lot of them would do better sexually embracing their femininity but that isn't a power fantasy like becoming a hyper-masculine alpha admired by their fellow men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/21 09:42 PM
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I've typically been the HL in all my relationships, but there have been a few occasions when that dynamic temporarily switched and both happened at times when the relationships were not going well and the concept of having sex with this person I had very complicated feelings about was just depressing as shit. I still had a high sex drive, I still masturbated and felt attracted to other men, just not my partner. It wasn't deliberate. On the contrary, it was actually very frustrating and weird. An…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/21 10:09 PM
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I dunno, I'm super hot and all the guys I've been close with as boyfriends or otherwise have demonstrated empathy towards me and interest in the things I said to them. Even the fuckbuddies have mostly been pretty nice guys and the ones who weren't hid it until later on.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/21 11:00 PM
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It's fine. I'm kinda surprised more of them don't do it, honestly. Most people look hotter with eyeliner.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/21 06:15 PM
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I have no fucking clue. I've never seen anyone react to an attractive man being single like that in my life. Are you 100% sure you interpreted that correctly? Because my guess is that you didn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/21 06:07 PM
1

All this "pre-selection" bullshit sounds like an overly complicated way of explaining that likeable people tend to find themselves liked by people. We also know that humans have a strong desire for things they can't have, and that perceived unavailability tends to make people (of whatever gender) want the thing more. That's why people in relationships sometimes get more attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/21 05:16 AM
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Idk what that person is on because it seems pretty obvious to me that people tend to like people who are good at being liked.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/21 04:19 AM
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Women like men who are good at getting women to like them. Shocker.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/21 09:36 PM
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I bet it seems like it must really suck if you're entirely fucking detached from reality. They're not "getting used as a resource" so much as they're hanging out with their friends or providing for a person they care about who they feel gives back enough to be worth the trouble. GO OUTSIDE.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/21 08:40 PM
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I've known a few. They tend to have a lot of close female friends, and they tend to have sex with their friends rather than with strangers. Which makes sense -- "unattractive stranger" vs "close longtime friend who will show me a good time and not make it weird" isn't much of a competition. They do genuinely value those friendships, and would (and do) continue to maintain them without the sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/21 11:01 PM
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"I came so hard I blacked out for a second and it took a while for my legs to work again. What a fucking beta loser."
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/21 11:39 PM
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Maybe sorta, but the main intent is to end prostitution completely. Nordic model supporters have this very weird idea that sex work existing is what makes men sexist, and that getting rid of it will massively change the way men think about women overall. Yes, this is very stupid. It's also worth mentioning that even in Nordic model countries, the supposedly "decriminalized" sex workers still face as many or more consequences than their criminalized clients -- they get evicted from their homes, c…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 08:13 PM
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You are!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 07:49 AM
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I don't think any of them should be criminalized.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 01:45 AM
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lol dude take a chill pill and direct your nonsensical rant at someone who cares.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 12:19 AM
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I just think it's really fun to stick needles in dicks.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 09:08 PM
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GO OUTSIDE AND MEET PEOPLE.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 08:15 PM
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You're referring to the "Nordic model" in which selling is decriminalized and buying is criminalized. You are absolutely correct that this creates unsafe conditions for sex workers. This is why even the most viciously client-hating sex workers support full decrim. The fact that the clients also benefit from full decrim is mostly irrelevant. You can support full decrim because it protects sex workers while still not liking clients very much.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 08:13 PM
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Only source of income, although I do occasional online domination related to my brand. I'm not a fan -- it's three times the work for a third of the money and none of the adrenaline.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 11:25 PM
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Yeah, I have lots of regulars and a reputation that allows me to charge a high hourly.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 10:44 PM
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Nope, started doing domination and stuck to that once I was established enough for it to be profitable.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 10:30 PM
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They're not trying to "seal the deal." Sex is a normal (and desired) part of a relationship, and they think that's what they're doing. I'm not saying they're always correct that it was a trick. There's often an element of wishful thinking there, the same way there is when men think baristas are flirting with them. The obvious way to avoid this is to talk about it explicitly or hold out really long, but it's also weird to pretend that someone who is, say, whispering sweet nothings about how cool …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 10:28 PM
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Lube and acting skills. It's annoying as shit, which is why I'm not full service anymore. I would not ever do it unpaid.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 10:22 PM
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They're not mad about getting cheated on the exchange, though. They're people who don't pursue casual sex and are disappointed because they had feelings and believe, rightly or wrongly, that the man intentionally mislead them about his. They weren't trying to exchange sex for a relationship -- they wanted to have sex in the context of a developing relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 10:08 PM
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I exchanged sex for money. I had sex with people I was interested in because I wanted to, and didn't regret it on the occasions when things didn't lead to more. The only time I regretted it was when it was bad, and in those cases I lost interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 10:04 PM
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I've had sex for money but I've never had sex to get a relationship. When I've had sex with people I was interested in dating it was because I was attracted to them and I wanted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 09:25 PM
1

lol no it's not
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 07:54 PM
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All of this is complete bullshit invented by losers who want to LARP as cool guys. Any man who describes himself as "alpha" or "sigma" is a walking cringe. Jesus Christ. Just get into astrology instead. It makes exactly the same amount of sense and is slightly less insufferable.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 09:16 PM
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I think it's fair to want to date people who share your values, and it's fair for those values to include stuff like "caring about other people" and "willingness to make certain sacrifices for the common good." It can also include stuff like "being smart enough to understand that the massive global pandemic is in fact kind of a big deal."
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/21 09:39 PM
10

I went to college in NYC and we all got the reverse freshmen 15.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/21 03:48 AM
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It's because they all suck at dirty talk. I'm not completely opposed to relying on body language for some things -- it can be very, very obvious what the other person wants. The problem comes when they start thinking that their interpretation of body language trumps what the other person actually said out loud.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/21 08:48 PM
1

Shockingly, a philosophy that makes no goddamn sense... makes no goddamn sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/21 07:46 PM
2

I'm not entirely convinced that "porn addiction" is a real thing, and even if it is then I don't believe the vast majority of self-identified "porn addicts" actually suffer from it. There's a lot of evidence out there supporting this! I think most "porn addicts" are just horny and ashamed about it. The rest are just checked out of their relationships and not that into their partners anymore, and the porn heavy porn use is a symptom rather than the cause of their issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/21 11:03 PM
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I'm making fun of people who talk with authority about how casual sex works when they very, very clearly have no fucking clue.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/21 09:15 PM
3

Yes, I've had lots of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/21 09:09 PM
4

For some people, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/21 09:06 PM
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I think it's lots of fun!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/21 09:03 PM
7

I swear to god none of the fucking nerds on this sub have ever actually had casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/21 08:33 PM
2

Look, just because you really really really want her to be a lying piece of shit doesn't mean she actually is one.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/21 08:29 PM
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lol no Amber Heard was able to prove something like 10 separate incidents of domestic violence against her in a UK court, which is famously biased in favor of the hurt party in libel cases. And people here still act like she made it all up.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/21 01:03 AM
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Sure you can argue that TRP could do this without all the misogynistic language, and I’d agree. Do you honestly believe that the choice to use that type of language and say those types of things is somehow separate from the philosophy as a whole? If you took out the misogyny you wouldn't have TRP -- you'd have some version of the non-misogynistic more holistic pickup. Which is fine. That already exists. It does everything TRP claims to do and far better. The only reason TRP exists is because the…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/21 08:24 PM
2

Children are not and cannot be expected to behave like responsible adults and there's a sense of responsibility most parents have towards a life they created. A romantic partner is an adult capable of making their own decisions and there's no sense that you "owe" that person your continued time/affection/labor, especially if the effort is not being returned. A lot of redpillers have a massive bugbear about women ending relationships, which is pretty expected for a group of people who are both ex…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/21 07:12 PM
1

I find it interesting that you assume a kinky man with neck tattoos cannot possibly be nice, smart, or polite.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/21 10:29 PM
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No. ❤️
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/21 08:40 AM
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Because it is fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/21 02:16 AM
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I'm a fan. If it's what you're after, yeah, being nice to the people you're trying to bang is a good strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/21 02:13 AM
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They're always nice! Like I'm trying to think back and figure out if there's been a time in my life when I've hooked up with someone who started off treating me poorly... and there isn't. Not even when I was super young. I've had guys try it a few times, but never successfully.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/21 01:32 AM
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lol no dude it's definitely a cult
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/21 01:03 AM
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Yeah duh? My point is that they didn't get laid by being jerks. They got laid by pretending to not be jerks.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/21 01:02 AM
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PPD is full of nerds who have never actually had casual sex, and their concept of what it's like is a mishmash of bullshit they read on the internet and power fantasies about how they'd treat women if only they could get away with it. They have some idea that these "asshole bad boys" are getting laid by treating these women like trash. I've actually had a lot of casual sex, and most of those guys were very nice. The ones who weren't didn't reveal that til later. It's entirely possible/probable t…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/21 11:57 PM
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Your friends also have other options, presumably. It's just normal to have multiple friends so the competition isn't as fierce. And lol at "one-sided entertainment." One of two things are going on. Either you are picking the dullest people alive OR -- frankly more likely given the tone of these comments -- you're showing up preemptively angry and uninterested in the person you're on a date with and whining when your self-fulfilling prophecy fulfills itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/21 07:56 PM
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If you feel like you're doing labor by hanging out with someone, you don't like that person. That's honestly a very good definition of what it means to actually like someone. Do you feel like you're doing labor when you hang out with your friends?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/21 08:45 AM
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No. I've had a fuckton of casual sex and the guys who tried ineptly were miles better than the guys who didn't try at all. It's not all that hard to eat pussy and if you want to be good at it you'll figure it out pretty fast. I'll take the timid pleaser any day, even if he's less attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/21 04:17 AM
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If you hate the people you're dating you're not going to have fun dating them and it's going to feel like labor. If you genuinely enjoy their company then hanging out and having drinks before you get to the sex part is a fun bonus, not an irritating obstacle. Most women who go on dates, even with casual intentions, want a guy who feels the second way. So do most men, frankly! But there's a certain segment of bitter misogynists who hate every woman they date, so they deceive/attempt to deceive wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/21 10:17 PM
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People who are attractive and charming tend to have more sex. Narcissists tend to be charming and also tend to take better care of their appearance. People who are willing to be deceptive about who they are and what they're after can tailor themselves to their target more easily. But no, you're not not getting laid because you're "too good a person." You're not getting laid because you're not attractive or charming. Sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/21 10:04 PM
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That was a lot of babble to address literally nothing I said. Did you mean to respond to my comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/21 04:57 AM
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It's because they can tell themselves a nice story about how their lack of dating success is because they're too good. Like what feels better? "I can't get laid because I'm not charming or attractive" vs "I can't get laid because I'm such a wonderful person and these mean sluts are bad people for not rewarding my specialness."
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/21 12:51 AM
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Look, the only way anyone finds anything on this sub "enlightening" is if they are very, very dumb to start with.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/21 11:21 PM
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I am here to make fun of idiots who think they're very clever and this sub provides beautifully. I have not been enlightened by it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/21 08:13 PM
3

I've had sex with more stunningly attractive men than you can shake a stick at and it was definitely the oral sex that got me off.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/21 07:48 PM
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It's because they mostly do care. Guys who pursue sex heavily tend to actually like sex, including the parts about pleasing their partners. Guys who are only in it for validation are the ones who get prissy and lazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/21 05:14 AM
1

Lolololol no, no more than restaurants are "taking advantage" of hungry people.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 03:00 AM
1

I like PIV and like to experience it with everyone I'm sexual with.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 11:49 PM
3

Gary Wilson has 0 scientific or medical qualifications. He's a grifter taking advantage of sexual shame. I can do longterm relationships, I just don't mind being single and I like hooking up when I am.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 11:48 PM
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Lmao not everyone is that same as you, porn addiction isn't even a real thing and the number of people I've slept with has nothing to do with "loving myself." I don't think I'd really be "loving myself" if I stuck to some dumb puritanical rule that made me unhappy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 11:08 PM
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If you're happy with that, good for you I guess? Experiencing a lot of different people was always part of the appeal for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 11:06 PM
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The thing that I think you're failing to understand is that most normal men have sex because they are horny and like having sex. Red pillers have a weird bad understanding of sex because they care more about validation than pleasure and they think everyone else is the same way. That's not how it works.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 10:58 PM
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Not everyone likes casual sex. It's common for people to try it out and stop because they don't like it. Women are not a monolith. I've had a bunch though and most of it was pretty fun? Some of them were pretty crap but most of them got me off or at least made a solid effort. If my experiences were consistently bad I might have stopped -- but maybe not tbh, my sex drive is super high and I don't do relationships with people I don't feel very strongly about.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 10:40 PM
2

Because it's fun and feels nice. That seems pretty obvious??
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 10:27 PM
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There's literally nothing validating about having casual sex as a woman. That's not why we do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 07:53 PM
1

Gary Wilson has literally zero medical or scientific qualifications. Idk if he's a grifter or a true believer, but I have no interest in his bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/21 08:53 PM
1

I guess I'd take the "man of my dreams" and cheat on him a bunch? He wouldn't really be the "man of my dreams" if he demanded one-sided monogamy but if singlehood isn't a choice I'd just take cucking the shit out of him over getting chained to a repulsive cringe.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/21 07:01 AM
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Neither one is bad. "Porn addiction" is vastly overblown AT BEST and r/nofap is full of crazies. Vibrators are lovely. Calm down.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/21 08:39 PM
2

Your circles aren't as "liberal and sex positive" as you think. Mine actually are and yes, that's exactly how it works.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/20 08:37 AM
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lol no most of them did swipe right on or hook up with their husbands.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/20 05:00 AM
1

Never assume men will be good. Even the ones who give you multiple orgasms aren't necessarily good people. It seems like maybe you just don't care as much as I do? Which is fine, but some of us care and it's not a bad thing to care about.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/20 09:20 PM
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Porn addiction isn't real and the number of people you've slept with doesn't mean anything. People who can't handle their partners having an independent sexuality that doesn't revolve around them are bad partners, regardless of what form that takes. Worth pointing out though that the most virulent anti-porn sentiment comes from men these days. That definitely wasn't true til recently, but in the last few years we've seen the r/nofap guys sending death threats to sex therapists skeptical of "porn…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/20 09:00 PM
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Why would you even have sex with someone who doesn't give you orgasms? Like I get that they don't exactly carry around a resume but if things go poorly you can leave in the middle. I started kicking guys out unfucked for not going down on me and it was a great decision, 10/10, highly recommend. If that's too confrontational for you, just ghost after but I promise kicking them out midway is the better solution. You don't have to endure crap sex and they don't get their egos stroked for no reason.…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/20 08:52 PM
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They wouldn't be "forced" to put up with it so much as they'd entirely stop caring, the same way most men don't get upset about their girlfriends wearing sleeveless tops in public. There have been points in history where that was scandalous and there are still communities where women are expected to hide their shoulders, but it's not like average guy sees his girlfriend walking around in spaghetti straps and thinks "look at me being progressive and accepting this" or "ugh I guess I am forced to …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/20 10:20 PM
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I'm super honest about it because the men who care are jealous little idiots and I want to scare them away. A nice bonus of all the sex I've had is that I will never accidentally end up in a relationship with one of those men. I don't think women with "acceptable" sexual histories should date them either, for the record.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/20 09:42 PM
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There's a difference between being "emotionless" and crying about all your problems. I was with this girl trying to be as stoic as possible and trying not to make it seem like I was excited or desperate as I thought by doing so will show her I’m a high value man. I even refrained from smiling through out the whole date and only smiled if she or I cracked a joke. Lmao this is the dumbest way to date I can possibly imagine.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/20 08:33 PM
1

Most people find dating difficult on some level. It's difficult and confusing by nature. I think a lot of very bitter people fantasize about the incredibly easy dating lives of Chads and Stacies but it's pure fantasy. Hot people date other hot people, it's an even playing field, we deal with all the same shit as the uggos do but we do it with more attractive people. So no, I don't think people looking for advice are necessarily "bottom tier." I think some of them are scammers, a lot of them beli…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/20 10:23 PM
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Meaning that she didn't care if she was seen as nothing more than a sex object to another man. So seeing a woman as anything more than an object is not a requirement to fuck them. I don't give a shit what my hitachi magic wand thinks of me, either. And when I masturbate I certainly don't take time to consider whether I'm "too valuable" before I crank one out. Not that it matters, because a hitachi magic wand is not a human and when I have casual sex with humans I don't consider myself to be "usi…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/20 09:26 PM
1

I've had sex with more obscenely attractive men than you can shake a stick at and it was definitely fun but not remotely validating.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/20 09:43 PM
2

I've known a few people who consistently had terrible relationships, to the point where I'd start worrying the second they mentioned they were seeing someone new. I'm thinking of two people in particular. These women had both already experienced abuse in the past, from a parent or a romantic partner. Also, the guys didn't initially come off as "assholes" nor did they really fit any of the stereotypes you'd expect -- on the contrary, they were super sweet and romantic in the beginning. The shitty…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/20 08:29 PM
1

Read your own comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/20 08:21 PM
1

lol no there is literally nothing at all validating about casual sex as a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/20 08:20 PM
2

The male sex drive is SO overrated. Especially among terps, who like to pretend they're totally sex motivated. Someone here once described them as "LL men seeking validation larping as HL men seeking sex" and it's TRUE.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/20 07:57 PM
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So you want to degrade your partner, but you don't want that "degradation" to be something she actually enjoys enough to pursue before you came into the picture? You want her to do "degrading" sex acts with you and NOT enjoy them?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/20 07:55 PM
1

I ruined a friendship by sleeping with a guy. We were both very recently single and neither of us were after anything serious so I didn't expect some fun drunk sex to cause any problems. Surprise, it did, he got super awkward around me during group hangs and any actual friendship we had dissolved completely. I think he thought I was after something more even though I explicitly told him I wasn't. The whole thing was actually very annoying and left me with a strong preference for men outside my s…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 09:13 PM
2

Mine is astronomical and most of the guys I've dated also have pretty high numbers. The very few times it's ever come up as an issue was with the inexperienced ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 08:17 PM
1

Years ago I knew someone who used to do this! She said the vast majority of her clients were men with ED or PE and that she typically used a fleshlight on them. I have no idea how effective any of this was. Anyway I don't think that situation is about cheating. It sounds more like a possibly sketchy therapist. The husband being "trusted" doesn't necessarily make him a good option, since it's common for people who were abused by someone close to them to be fine with casual sex but struggle with i…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 06:59 PM
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Performers have been asking for this for a decade. Pornhub pretty much decimated the industry with easy pirating, seriously affected the amount of money that can be made off any one clip which has wrecked performer pay and production values. Pornhub didn't give a shit until a bunch of evangelicals started putting pressure on them. The Visa/Mastercard thing is legitimately terrifying when you consider that a lot of performers do rely on Pornhub payments and we're in the middle of a pandemic. The …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 06:48 PM
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I get where you're coming from. I just don't give a shit. I'm not going to base my sexual decisions on preserving some dude's self worth, especially when those decisions don't actually have much to do with his "worth" sexually or otherwise. It's dumb to obsess over something because you've built it up in your head to mean something it doesn't actually mean and I'm not altering the way I fuck to cater to it. I also have no interest in a relationship with a man who doesn't genuinely want to be in …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/20 06:45 PM
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It's not just the women, it's everyone. College is the first taste of adult freedom for a huge amount of students -- no wonder they go a little wild. It's a life stage where people tend to explore different identities, including "casual sex haver." It's also a life stage where people tend to be horny and impulsive. I don't think the answer is to discourage casual sex among young people. For one thing, it won't work. I think a major issue is that college students have absolutely no idea what a he…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/20 01:20 AM
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College hookup culture is very frequently a mess. Young people are immensely insecure, bad at sex and bad at handling/communicating their feelings. I've known a lot of women who tried hooking up in college and stopped because "it wasn't actually fun." My long-running suspicion has been that if they tried it just a few years later they'd have a much better experience. I've always tended to pursue casual sex while single and the difference in that experience at 19 vs 25 was WILD.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/20 11:13 PM
2

Wow you guys really need to convince yourself that every man out there is just as prissy as you. They're not! Sorry if that hurts your revenge fantasy! I've had multiple longterm relationships including the one I've been in for four years.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/20 06:09 AM
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You're looking in an online space populated by a particularly neurotic group of men who are all trying to one-up each other on the misogyny and (vitally) don't know each other IRL so won't get called out when they knowingly and happily marry someone with a sexual history they would have described as a dealbreaker in the TRP sub. My number is astronomical and I'm really open about it and IRL men mostly don't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/20 06:34 PM
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Literally never. I do have one friend where it could definitely look that way if I weren't so close to her. He's had one other sexual partner to her many and is much less attractive than her, but wealthy. Except I actually know a lot of the details -- their first-ever hookup was a threesome with him and his ex and six years in she still brags about what a fantastic lay he is. As far as I can tell they're both pretty obsessed with each other. I think if you're determined to see AF/BB you'll see i…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/20 08:30 PM
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They are very hostile towards anything that threatens the sanctity of the revenge fantasy. They also get really wound up when women who have had casual sex are attracted to their husbands.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/20 07:39 AM
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"I'm not lonely, YOU'RE lonely." But also they seem to have trouble wrapping their brains around the idea that women have priorities that have nothing to do with dating/romance/kids so the concept of a happily single woman just does not compute.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/20 08:04 PM
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Because redpillers see all sex and relationships as basically a quest for validation. If something isn't "validating" in their eyes then it doesn't matter how happy it's making the man who's actually doing the thing -- they'll convince themselves that he's been tricked somehow, or that he's just hopelessly pathetic for not living his life in a way that impresses redpillers. You really really see this in the way they talk about clients of sex workers and sexually submissive men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 10:17 PM
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At best it was a shitty toxic mutually abusive relationship and he's still in no way innocent. But frankly I'd be willing to excuse some bad behavior from a person who was being abused by an older, physically stronger, much more well-established partner. Like I wouldn't be a nice person in that situation either.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 05:56 AM
2

Amber Heard managed to prove that Johnny Depp was physically abusive to her on twelve different occasions, in a court that is famously partial to the hurt party in libel cases. So he wasn't even falsely accused, and he's still being treated like a poor victim.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 12:28 AM
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Or they have a happy relationship and end up glad they didn't let the stigma ruin something good. Or they were never bothered in the first place and they aren't "putting up" with anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 04:28 AM
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For you maybe. It's not actually that much of an issue. "Oh but men wouldn't put up with that!!" Lol dude I've been a sex worker for over a decade, I know other sex workers, I've seen how it goes. Even some of your buddies who you think would never actually totally will. Some of them might have already and just haven't told you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 12:18 AM
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lmao I had no idea, I've never actually seen him with it curly.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 11:26 PM
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If I'm seeing multiple people and one of those guys is seeing multiple people, I don't really see it as "sharing" anyone. We're just all casually dating. People here seem to imagine some guy with a harem of women who are monogamous to him but usually the guys with "harems" know perfectly well that all those women are seeing other people and that he's part of her "harem" too. But they don't call it that, because that's a fucking stupid way to refer to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 10:50 PM
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Because sex workers sell their time in blocks and then can go home and have their own lives that don't revolve around some rich dickhead. If they lose a big client, it's annoying but it doesn't wreck everything like it might if Mr. Moneybags decides he wants a divorce. A LOT of sex workers are gay and don't have any interest in marrying or dating men. Also, a lot of sex workers are doing it temporarily, often to supplement what they make at a straight job and don't want to commit to spending yea…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 07:58 PM
2

Highly unusual. I've seen it very few times and it was rare enough to be notable.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 05:29 AM
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You're not answering my question.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 03:20 AM
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I never said it didn't matter. I said it matters less than everything else. So, uh, do you rank your sexual partner's skill after you have great sex? Or are you just happy you had great sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 02:51 AM
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You sound like you have really low self-esteem, honestly. The world is apparently telling you that you're really good in bed and you're just typing away on the internet about how no one actually wants you. And yes, people do actually tell their friends about awesome lays regardless of dick size??? No one thinks women hate big dicks. But men wildly overestimate their importance when they come in at like #12 on the list of things that make sex enjoyable. Also I don't think most people compare like…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 01:38 AM
1

Because hookups are often not great and if he at least has a big dick he has something to offer.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 12:45 AM
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Porn is made for men. Bigger dicks feeling more "intense" doesn't mean they feel better -- not all that screaming is about pleasure. Also the thing about eating pussy is true. I've had awesome sex with smaller guys but there's no magic dick proportions that can make a man who doesn't eat pussy not sexually useless. If you're super fucking lazy with a huge dick there are some size queens who might prize the dick enough to put up with your other deficiencies. But all else being equal, they'd prefe…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 12:28 AM
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And in everyone one of those cases where the guy was normal sized, it would have been better if he was bigger. Okay, fine, if you had access to his exact clone who fucked the exact same way and had the exact same emotional connection, you could add an inch and possibly improve the experience. But that clone doesn't exist. And dick size is frankly such a negligible part of the sexual experience that all those things matter way way more. I'm convinced men focus on dick size because it's something …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 12:03 AM
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Nah. My all-time best lays have been all over the map and so have my worst ones. It definitely helps but it's a wayyyyy smaller factor that you all seem to think. It's more like how I tend to be attracted to men with curly hair but am still really into Henry Cavill. And you can bet Henry Cavill doesn't sit around pouting because his girlfriend has a history of dating men with curly hair so obviously she's settling for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 11:44 PM
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Porn addiction isn't real. Most self-identified "porn addicts" have totally normal masturbation + shame, often due to unconventional tastes or a conservative upbringing. I have encountered sexually inexperienced men who only knew about sex from porn but they mostly figure it out after a few years because that stopped being something I encountered regularly once I stopped banging college boys.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 07:45 PM
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I've slept with every boyfriend I've had since high school on the first date. The difference between them and the other guys was (1) the sex was particularly great (2) the conversation was excellent and (3) they were super into me and things got very intense almost immediately. I tend to lose romantic interest pretty quickly without #3. I'm not sure I'd even want to seriously date someone if we didn't feel strongly about each other from very early on. I don't think that's even a particularly sma…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 07:15 AM
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You feel like it's true and you want it to be true so it must be true. Is that how reality works?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 12:43 AM
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No, you're totally right, that's how I date and how I see people in my life date. The whole AF/BB thing is mostly just a red pill conspiracy theory. It has two functions: 1) To provide a revenge fantasy about the "sluts" who rejected them ending up in miserable relationships with men they don't even like. 2) To induce paranoia about possibly becoming BB, which is a great way to sell people on red pill solutions without them noticing that TRP is basically just a really dumb conspiracy theory.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/20 08:33 PM
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Amber Heard was able to prove that Johnny Depp was violent towards her on twelve separate incidents, and she did it in a court that is infamously partial to the hurt party in libel cases. I know most people here develop shit for brains if there's any possibility that a woman might have lied about abuse, but realistically, she probably didn't lie about abuse. At best, it was a shitty mutually abusive relationship. Her claims weren't frivolous and the whole thing would have blown over by now if he…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/20 08:29 PM
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Are they not wrong? Because most of them would be just fine earning more than a partner, but men are apparently screwing themselves romantically and financially because they're so afraid of being emasculated.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/20 06:14 AM
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So why get into a relationship with someone who would treat you that way just because she makes more? If she's only nice to you because you make more than she does, you picked wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/20 04:38 AM
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Nah, I've been breadwinner and I've dated the breadwinner and both were fine. Maybe you all just need to date people you can actually trust.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/20 04:36 AM
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"I don't want my wife to have financial leverage that she might abuse because I want to have financial leverage that I can abuse." Sounds like projection.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/20 11:47 PM
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lol it's EXTREMELY cute that you don't realize that all of this describes men or that handling men this way works pretty well.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/20 09:02 PM
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It's harmful by design. It feeds your existing insecurities and makes you increasingly depending on these moronic RP subs to soothe yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/20 02:48 AM
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Whenever I see opinions like this I have to wonder: did your girlfriend leave because you showed an emotion and she lost attraction, or did she leave because you let your mental health problems run your life, treated her like a therapist, neglected her needs and refused to seek actual professional help? I dumped my ex because of his depression. I never stopped being attracted to him, and I didn't think it made him "weak" or "incompetent." We were together for 4.5 year and I realized it was a pro…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/20 10:09 PM
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I've known guys who had a lot of trouble cumming during sexual encounters and still pursued casual sex. Orgasm isn't everything. (Also they were both exceptional lays, I s2g men with dick problems fuck the best precisely because they understand this.) But also I usually do orgasm during casual encounters. It's not the only reason I like them or I'd just stay home with my vibrator, but it's definitely part of what I'm there for. I don't ever have sex with men who don't go down on me, for that rea…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/20 08:44 PM
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Men misunderstand female psychology when they interpret any kind of pushback as a "shit test."
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/20 10:45 PM
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Their entire stupid philosophy makes a lot more sense when you realize that not only do they prize validation above sex but they assume everyone else is the same way.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 11:12 PM
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A lot of these guys aren't as good as they think they are, or they're mostly fine but so bad at some particular aspect of dating that they get weeded out immediately. I also suspect a lot of them treat it like a numbers game and hit on as many women as possible, which is actually a pretty good strategy but does involve a lot more rejection than someone who, say, focuses on women he thinks might be into him already and makes an effort to charm them before making his move.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 10:42 PM
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They don't like sex that much, they just like the validation they get from it. Pleasure is irrelevant. Even their own! It really pops out when they discuss sexually submissive men or clients of escorts. The rich guy having threesomes with beautiful sex workers and the kinky guy getting ass-railed by his fat wife are both having more fun than your average tinder hookup. But it's not validating enough, so it's contemptible.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 10:26 PM
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"Marriageable" for WHO? "He's nice enough and financially stable" isn't a good enough reason for me to marry someone who, at best, has enormously incompatible views on sex. My personal opinion is that these men are insecure little weaklings and I do not want to have a sexual relationship with someone who clearly has so many issues around sex, but regardless. We're incompatible. They're not marriageable because of what they believe, not because of what I suspect those beliefs may indicate.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/20 08:40 PM
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Literally all of you and me too like what we like due to conditioning. That's how sexuality works. If you think your boner is a special independent thinker, sorry, it is not.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/20 08:53 PM
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Amber Heard "got away" with whatever domestic violence she perpetrated because she was able to successfully prove that she had been the victim of domestic violence on at least 12 separate occasions. She proved this in a country where libel laws are famous for favoring the injured party. And she didn't really "get away" with it because despite providing an enormous amount of proof a huge number of people still think of her as an evil mastermind who lied about her abuse while Johnny Depp is seen a…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 09:14 PM
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It gives them: • A beautiful revenge fantasy about how those sluts who rejected you will end up miserable alone or in marriages with men they find repulsive who are only there for sex. •A very compelling power fantasy about how YOU TOO can become total alpha chad bro drowning in pussy just by being, like, super masculine. •Black and white thinking about What Men and Women Are Like, which is deeply comforting in an uncertain world. •The thrill of secret knowledge, which is a big part of why peopl…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/20 09:37 PM
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lol no they're poor as hell and have no other way to get educated, or they come from military families and are under strong pressure to join. The military feeds them propaganda and exploits their situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/20 11:38 PM
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I mean, I've gone on OKC specifically trolling for subby guys to bang off the clock, so sometimes we are? What I mean is that they assume -- correctly -- that because of my profession I won't be particularly shocked by an unsolicited dick pic. They want the recipient to feel shocked and uncomfortable, so I'm a bad choice because my reaction will pretty much just be an eyeroll.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/20 03:40 AM
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Nah. Fake concept. Also there's no such thing as a man who refers to himself as an "alpha male" and isn't a total dork.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/20 08:02 PM
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I think in most cases it's a weird power tactic rather than a sincere attempt at finding an interested sexter. Like they want you to feel uncomfortable. When I've gotten unsolicited dick pics it's mostly been in response to a rejection. Another piece of evidence: I've also gotten A LOT fewer unsolicited dick pics than a lot of my more innocent-seeming friends, despite spending more time on dating apps than any of them. I'm a pro-domme and open about it, so no one thinks I'll be particularly both…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/20 07:46 PM
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It's normal to be sad about a lost friendship? Like regardless of why it ended that was presumably someone you enjoyed hanging out with and now you don't get to do it anymore, obviously you're going to be sad. "How about I just treat you nicely but not put forth any real investment to get to know you while still receiving the benefit of your companionship without the cost of sex or the obligation to reciprocate. Sound cool?" Either you think your companionship is so valuable or hers is so misera…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/20 08:17 AM
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Pure niceness doesn't get you laid, but it also doesn't not get you laid? I swear y'all are married to the "women love assholes" trope because it lets you blame your lack of success on your inherent goodness, but that doesn't make it true. If you're hot and interesting and charming, you'll probably have success regardless of how nice or not nice you are. So why be a jerk? Also "oh no being nice doesn't directly result in me getting my dick wet, guess I'll start being an asshole" is the kind of t…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/20 07:36 PM
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Hobbies are a way to meet people and widen your social circle. They don't actually make you sexier.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/20 07:31 PM
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lol you think there weren't men -- including straight men -- who ended up servicing enemy soldiers for survival? That's just what happens when saying no can mean your death.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/20 07:54 PM
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I mean if one of your kid needs braces and the other one doesn't you don't put an equivalent amount of money in your straight-toothed kid's saving account. You're probably just grateful you don't have to pay for braces twice and put the extra money towards other things -- many of which may have a direct positive effect on straight-toothed kid's quality of life.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/20 01:11 AM
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Oh jeez you're concluding that parents love their daughters more based on eighty-three dollars per month. Also, pink tax. 7% more for toys and accessories & 4% more for children’s clothing. Plus the activities thing and the menstrual products. I can see it adding up. https://www.listenmoneymatters.com/the-pink-tax/#:~:text=The%20pink%20tax%20refers%20to,price%20discrimination%20or%20gender%2Dpricing.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/20 01:01 AM
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lol no sorry being prissy about this stuff is 100% weak
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/20 08:32 PM
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The women who believe A and the women who believe B are different groups of women. I am firmly team A and have never once lied about my insane sexual history. I err on the side of a little too much honestly, frankly. Tell him your orgy stories on the third date so you can find out if he's weak.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 08:59 PM
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You are basically typing word salad? I'm not saying "moral worth" I'm saying that the way it's used -- basically, the percentage of people who are interested in you -- is extremely fucking useless and irrelevant. If you need a business analogy there are ones that make more sense, but the terpy concept of RMV is dumbbbbbbb
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 07:46 PM
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I mean that's a lot of typing to not answer my question. Either being childfree lowers your value, in which case the entire concept of RMV is utterly irrelevant to everyone -- or it doesn't, and this entire marketplace analogy is dumb as shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 04:20 AM
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Okay so are childfree people low value or not? Because statistically speaking, the vast majority of people want kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 01:18 AM
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You might find her particular preferences rare (they aren't all that unusual, but whatever, I have no interest in arguing that right now) but the point she's making is pretty much why the entire concept of RMV is bullshit. Take childfree people. Most people want kids, so does that mean everyone who doesn't is automatically lower value simply because they have fewer options? If you think so, fine, but why would they even care? The people they don't want to date don't want to date them, and for th…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/20 09:19 PM
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You keep telling yourself that, bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/20 12:11 AM
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It's honestly adorable that you think you're any different from the "men are intimidated by me" women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/20 11:56 PM
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I didn't say that only men use this type of reasoning. I said that this reasoning is why so many men are so married to the "women love assholes" trope. Similar reasoning is tremendously common among racists, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/20 11:41 PM
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Three things: People who have experienced abuse in the past tend to find themselves in abusive relationships again and again. This is a noted phenomenon. So men see this and go "oh yes all women like abuse" instead of "this particular woman with CPTSD from a terrible childhood has a screwy concept of what qualifies as romance." A bit of push-pull / insecurity-inducing behavior works on nearly everyone. That's not gendered. Men love to think of themselves as special logic geniuses, so they think …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/20 08:57 PM
1

If you're "faking" beauty you can put on the drag and be fake-beautiful again. Fake rich dudes can't do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/20 08:56 AM
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They do, it's just more complicated than "all men hornier than all women."
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/20 08:53 AM
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At no point did I suggest otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/20 08:53 AM
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Male and female sex drives are heavily overlapping bell curves. There's a massive level of variation within each gender. "Men are hornier than women" is such an overly simplistic statement that it comes very close to being a lie. There are lots of low sex drive men and high sex drive women out there, far too many to handwave away as "outliers." Societal pressures also make a huge difference in how people go about sex/relate to their own sexualities. Boiling the conversation down to pure biology …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/20 01:35 AM
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The real answer is that they don't like sex that much. They really only want validation. One of the weirdest things about terps is that for people who are "sex obsessed" they don't actually give any shits about anyone's pleasure, even their own. They just want the validation of feeling like mommy's most special boy. In this framework, the "best" sex is the most validating sex rather than the most pleasurable sex. That means that she doesn't like it but will do it for you. It doesn't matter if yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/20 05:11 AM
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Why would I even care? Hot is hot. I don't want kids and if I did I don't think I'd give a shit how hot they came out.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/20 05:08 AM
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I really don't -- my very wild sexual history has never affected my dating life and I'm in a serious LTR. It's still very funny to make fun of people who are upset that their stupid little revenge fantasy isn't a real thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/20 08:59 PM
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Just because you believe that doesn't mean everyone does. Fortunately, prissy uptight losers are also disposable and I have no need to impress them. Having sex with a lot of people and being super open about it is actually a great way to scare off the boring misogynists, highly recommend.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/20 08:39 PM
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You guys are really invested in believing that all men hate the sluts as much as you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/20 07:59 PM
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I've said it before and I'll say it again: one of the biggest fallacies of TRP is that they absolutely cannot conceive of female sexuality as anything other than a reaction to a specific man.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/20 01:57 AM
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Most people who are attracted to women like eating pussy. I've dated multiple guys where I was the one who had to tap out. And it's not like I didn't return the favor, and enjoy myself doing it. It's called being good in bed? "Inappropriate" doesn't mean "not hot" it means "not suitable for a relationship." The main guy I'm thinking about was super hot. He was also a neurotic mess with a bunch of very obvious red flags and under normal circumstances I wouldn't have gotten emotionally attached. M…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/20 10:16 PM
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Lmao tell that to the inappropriate dudes I've been totally smitten with solely because they ate me out a bunch and the hot guys I took home and kicked out unfucked because they didn't do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/20 09:40 PM
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I live in a big city and get catcalled nearly every time I leave the house. A lot of it is fairly benign "hey beautiful" or "can I talk to you" type stuff, which doesn't really bother me. A fairly significant portion of it is super vulgar and sexual and clearly meant to intimidate, which does piss me off. I'm attractive, but I wonder how much it even matters. A friend of mine lost significant weight and got fit and said the catcalling got much less aggressive.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 01:32 AM
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The post literally says that women "live in a different reality" because we apparently don't have to be likeable to be liked, which is enormously stupid and ridiculous and out of touch with reality. In addition, you were very clear on not talking about "low hanging fruit" i.e. people with very big obvious dealbreaker problems such that may result from "autism/severe social anxiety/serious bullying" -- all of which are things women can have too. So yeah, you did very much say that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/20 01:57 AM
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You know terps are coddled little babies when they think "you have to act likeable to get people to like you" is a horrible unreasonable burden that they alone must bear.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/20 07:14 PM
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I too had a dumb guys phase. The idiocy was definitely part of the attraction. They're weirdly easy to be around sometimes?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/20 06:02 AM
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I've been thin my whole career and known fat sex workers who earned better than me -- and I haven't done poorly for myself, either. There's more to making money as a SW than just being hot, but still.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/20 05:59 AM
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A huge portion of the population is fat, lots of the people who have sex with them find them attractive and like having sex with them. Not everyone, not a majority, but it's common enough that dismissing it as "fringe" is dumb and out of touch with reality. Like I know it's weirdly common for men think that every man has their exact same sexuality, but no???? I'm not talking about normal weight women, I'm talking about overweight and up.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/20 05:46 AM
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I was responding to your claim that people don't find fat women attractive, so yes, it is relevant. Even if it's just a fetish it's common enough to support lots of fat sex workers, so you can't really handwave it away as statistically irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/20 04:32 AM
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I know fat sex workers who do well. Some of them are fairly expensive. If their clients didn't genuinely want fat women they could see someone skinny for less money.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/20 03:16 AM
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See, the fact that you have entirely boiled this down to "orgasm" pretty much confirms my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/20 03:24 AM
5

I mean that the way you go about sex doesn't even seem to take your own sexual pleasure into account. That's weird!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/20 02:58 AM
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Okay, but the weird bit is that you don't seem to care much about male pleasure either.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/20 02:51 AM
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There's also a weird inability to understand that other people enjoy sex for reasons that have nothing to do with validation. It really pops out when they talk about men who are sexually submissive or see escorts.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/20 01:49 AM
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Effeminacy. There's a specific way more feminine straight/bi men perform gender that I find nearly irresistible.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/20 01:11 AM
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I'm increasingly convinced that most terps don't actually like sex much and are only obsessed with it because it provides a potential source of validation. Like it's not surprising that they don't care much about female sexual pleasure, but they honestly don't seem to care about their own either? It's bizarre af.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/20 01:08 AM
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The only reason you believe otherwise is because your entire philosophy falls apart if a significant number of those relationships are in fact happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/20 10:19 PM
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Yeah, this is my experience too. I've had a ton of casual sex. There were guys who didn't care, but they were a definite minority esp once I got older and stopped having sex with the college-aged ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/20 09:22 PM
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I knew my first boyfriend was boring in bed when he was the only person I'd ever done anything sexual with. I didn't need experience to notice that he'd cum and I hadn't. You only think inexperienced women aren't judging you because they got emotionally attached before they found out you were a shitty lay and aren't comfortable enough talking about sex to address the issue. The best you can hope for is that they believe all men are as bad at sex as you are. And honestly while experience certainl…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/20 09:15 PM
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I don't think your concept of how most marriages work has anything to do with reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/20 02:14 AM
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Okay but can you actually explain why that's not a better deal? Like I realize you're going to claim that it doesn't always work like that but it does go exactly like that pretty often. So how is that a bad deal?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/20 05:13 PM
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It does work, though. Like not 100% of the time -- because no dating advice can 100% guarantee a relationship -- but it works frequently enough that it's not a bad strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/20 05:10 PM
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That is precisely why I don't want to make a CMV post.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 11:25 PM
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I don't feel like dealing with it but feel free if you like!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 10:46 PM
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It doesn't usually happen like that, a lot of people go in and out of hookup phases depending on life circumstances. If you run into someone on a post-breakup drinking vacation you're likelier to get laid immediately than if you run into that same person when she's deliberately dating for a relationship. One of TRP's biggest fallacies is that they absolutely cannot comprehend female sexuality as anything other than a direct response to a specific man. A lot of the time it's right place right tim…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 06:08 PM
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Be happy for me, too! I'm not dating them!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 06:30 AM
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I too am glad those specific men bailed early and clearly that was the best outcome for everyone involved! I am very grateful that those losers spared me the trouble of getting more deeply involved with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 12:18 AM
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Mine is astronomical and I've never lied about it once. It's chased off very few men, very early on, and any momentary disappointment I felt about it at the time was tempered by the knowledge that it was absolutely for the best. I s2g the best part of having a lot of casual sex (other than having a lot of casual sex) is the total losers you can get rid of quickly just by being honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/20 10:50 PM
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How do you know for sure she's lying if you weren't there?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/20 04:07 AM
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Did your mom have a proper attorney present when signing?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/20 11:56 PM
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Lmao all my friends who dated older men when we were in our early twenties were gold diggers. Like do you think really think most twenty-two year olds dating thirty-somethings are doing it because they're just sooooo sexy? Like there might be genuine attraction but a big part of the appeal is that they're not broke like the guys her age.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/20 06:18 PM
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I don't know if you're aware of this, but some people have sex for pleasure.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/20 05:33 PM
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I know you all love black and white thinking but it's actually more complicated than that. Sex drive is a bell curve. The male bell curve and the female bell curve are somewhat different, but there's a lot of overlap. There's much more variation within each sex than there is between them, which is why it's actually relatively common to find mismatched libido couples where the woman is the HL. Less common than the reverse, but it's not unusual or a sure sign of "porn addiction" or whatever. Regar…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/20 07:36 PM
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As I said, I am someone who very much uses them for casual sex and it sure as hell chases me off.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 10:08 PM
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