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fuck you bastard.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/18 06:23 AM
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Wow. So much for "for better or for worse, in sickness and in health" Taken at face value, I really think full blown dementia is an exception to this. It's not the same as just sickness because it's literally a different, out of this world person you never knew before.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/18 04:33 AM
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THIS. I have come across like 10 comments here in the past that are along the lines of "I think he's attractive but I would never date/fuck him"
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/18 06:43 PM
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I am actually surprised that it earns them points. I would have expected them to be sexist about this kind of thing. Nope. Social justice is like a shark tank. The boundary of who's the most socially good creates very fierce competition. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/metoo-leader-cristina-garcia-california-sexual-harassment-accusation-groping-man-a8202766.html They will even get women who lead the metoo movement if they are accused.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/18 05:02 PM
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Nope, they can't be all alphas. I have never seen this effect happen, in smaller scale environments. For example, the huge gym culture that California cities like SF and LA have just raise the standards women have. If a women is hanging around a bunch of muscular guys all the time, being muscular becomes normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/18 05:00 AM
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This story has a lot less to do with who is right and who is wrong and much more to do with the warped sense of social status evolving these days based around social justice or social morality. The idea of social status is transferring from those who are powerful and successful, to those that are victims or help the victims. See, if the university didn't lose or gain anything by dealing with sexual assault claims like this, they wouldn't bother with them. But suspending the girl, regardless of w…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/18 04:02 AM
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In general, do not agree to meet with him again or give any contact info, or appear interested in doing some other thing with him. If you follow this rule, you won't run into any misunderstandings.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/18 12:52 AM
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If your spouse is still treating you with the same love and respect as when you first met, if they're still adhering to all their wedding vows (love honor cherish etc.) and you divorce them, that's immoral in my book. Are you including sex in here as well? Otherwise that's just using morality as a means of revenge.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/18 09:53 PM
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it's shitty to leave once there are kids involved (for the sake of the kids) Studies show it's much worse for kids to live under disfunct marriages where the only reason they aren't divorced are because of the kids......
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/18 09:52 PM
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It's ludicrous to assume most people are just sleeping with someone once and moving on for all of their sexual activity. most people attribute lots of sex as "lots of sex with certain people" or a couple steamy FwB's, as RP calls them plates
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/18 02:27 PM
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"Taking away someone's humanity" or "removing humanity" is literally always used to signify a moral argument. I have no idea why u are even bringing this up if you have no moral issue with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/18 01:31 PM
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Neither thing is really fair as having lots of sex doesn't necessarily mean you are good at it, This doesn't make sense. Given sex is consensual, having lot of sex means your getting someone or some people to continuously agree and want to have sex with you, as in keep them coming back for more.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/18 01:30 PM
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How women forced to keep fucking anyone? You realize they could simply stop going out at any time with them right? Do you understand what forced means? By your logic fat people are forced to keep eating.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/18 01:27 PM
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No one's saying it's limiting or harming anyone. Then your using an appeal to emotion here, making this a logical fallacy. "removing one's humanity" has a connotation of things like slavery, genocide, etc. complete suppression of human free will or desire. Your desperately trying to make this into an issue by applying something no one would associate with it. You're looking at this like the person in the picture even necessarily knows what's being said. Why does this matter whether they know or …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/18 09:45 PM
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What I'm saying is that the image of a human someone strips the subject of the photo - a human - of their humanity. The picture itself is an object, the person the picture captures is human. What on earth are you defining as "humanity" here? Why does a simple photo, which one agrees to, limit or harm anyone in any way?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/18 08:58 PM
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psychological phenomenon where looking at 2D pictures of humans strips them of some of their humanity - they're easily objectified, and not just in the sexual sense. That's an oxymoron. An image is already an object. You can't strip an object of it's humanity, it doesn't have any. More so people allowing pictures to be taken of themselves isn't imposed on them, they are choosing to have their picture taken.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/18 05:14 PM
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Feminism becomes a platform for women with their own psychological problems to project them onto others and blame other people for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/18 05:42 PM
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He said "paperwork" which mostly doesn't exist. He said paperwork not sketches. This. Is. Fantasy. What if paperwork meant taxes? It seems your personally triggered about this OP, which is clouding your judgement and causing you to use emotion and not logic. Stop acting like a child.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/18 10:52 PM
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but you don't have to get laid to be masculine. Well, you kind of do. Not laid, but you have to be recognized as masculine by others. The problem with this kind of logic is that it allows people to simply define themselves of things that have no real connection to reality or applicable usage. Take this photo for example. Fat acceptance is a good example of this, as morbidly or extremely obese women are attempting to define themselves as feminine or attractive, despite most people not believing i…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/18 10:34 PM
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Depending on where you live that may be because education is actually a rip off. Why would so many women be applying to the programs though?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/18 10:30 PM
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What kind of surgeon does paperwork in a coffee shop? You know how many? None. Not true. I have seen cosmetic surgeons and reconstructive surgeons do sketching or modeling on Ipads in coffee shops. First most hospitals and free standing outpatient and doctor's offices have gone to electronic medical records and the notes and charting are all done on a computer, they have charting and dictation rooms or like 800 computers everywhere. Highly specialized surgeon likely doesn't work in a hospital. E…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/18 10:10 PM
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My hypothesis is that women see a successful guy and feel overwhelming entitlement and then when I won't commit violence and rage ensues. Advice? Date foreign women. American women are the only one's who have this sort of "I can have it all" fantasy. America tells women you can have the freedom to do whatever you want and get whatever you want. The reason they freak out is they snap back into reality and that they can't control men and get everything they want. I have never seen this happen with…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/18 10:08 PM
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Except the greatest examples of people oriented towards living things (philosophers, writers, poets, dramatists, humanitarians, and artists) are all also men. In modern times, it's more women. MFA programs (masters of fine arts) are actually having a severe problem finding men to apply for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/18 10:02 PM
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right but the point is, if you paint your nails and wear pink and don't care what other people think, it's still probably not going to get u laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/18 07:00 PM
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Your confusing the nice guy for an incel. Incel's don't actually believe moral actions and kindness should get them laid. Incels believe they are genetically inferior to chads and cannot get laid at all, due to not having good facial structure.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/18 05:30 PM
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I think autists do care about what other people think. They feel embarrassment and insecurity just like the rest of us. Autism is the lack of social awareness and understanding. It's clear here you have never known one. Like they will just barge into a conversation and asks if anyone thinks quantum gravity is possible. Or other awkward behaviors.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/18 05:25 PM
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Look at all the male celebrities, women find attractive, none of them look alike. They are all rich, famous, and good looking......... I remember arguing with my girlfriends on which guy on Fast and Furious is the most attractive. Your example is flawed as it's comparing men of almost identical SMV. Try comparing an actor to an average dude LOL.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/18 06:33 PM
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That's a bit obtuse to believe foster care is more traumatizing than being forced to have sex to a man you were forced to marry.....
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/18 04:27 AM
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"False accusation" carries connotations of lying to police, perjuring oneself, to get an innocent person locked away. This is miles from that. That's 100% false. Your just using this as a way to shift the goal posts so no cases of false accusation actually exist. The vast majority of people consider claiming rape to a college administrator or disciplinary officer as an accusation. Tons and tons of college level cases, famous ones, like mattress girl and the rolling stone magazine one never invol…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/18 03:22 AM
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She's essentially saying she felt sexually assaulted, And your point is? It's reported initially as a sexual assault incident to babe.net. Otherwise this never would have made headlines. not that the encounter met any legal standard of assault or that police or courts should get involved. None of the metoo cases have involved criminal courts or criminal charges
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/18 03:13 AM
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Millions are flooding into Europe. Yes bought those are the poor muslims from war-torn nations http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-37518289 Rich muslims like from Dubai don't follow Sharia law.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/18 03:07 AM
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What is your take on European nations allow child marriages and brides from Muslim refugees? http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-37518289
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/18 03:06 AM
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She never claimed he assaulted her. Wrong: Grace says her friends helped her grapple with the aftermath of her night with Ansari. “It took a really long time for me to validate this as sexual assault,” she told us. https://babe.net/2018/01/13/aziz-ansari-28355
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/18 02:55 AM
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You linked to an article about an affirmative consent law. yes mean yes seems unreasonable to you? Don't appeal to emotion, own your words, You said: But the legal burden of proof is still there: a hashtag hasn’t changed that and that difficultly in proving rape That's obviously not true, as the standard of proof got much less. There doesn't need to be a clear NO to prove rape or assault.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/18 02:49 AM
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By this logic if a woman says she likes nice guys she should be dating men who are kind and do favors for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/18 02:30 AM
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Are you saying incels are a bigger issue socially or they are a threat to our safety ?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/18 02:29 AM
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Reported to Reddit for inciting violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/18 02:27 AM
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Well then your opinion doesn't matter!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/18 02:23 AM
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Do you understand that Aziz Ansari was falsely accused of sexual assault? But the legal burden of proof is still there: a hashtag hasn’t changed that and that difficultly in proving rape Yes it has: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/in-theory/wp/2015/10/13/why-we-made-yes-means-yes-california-law/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.cb125c68fcc5
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/18 02:23 AM
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r u a woman? Doesn't sound like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/18 02:20 AM
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I meant years* All I am saying is the threat of being killed by an incel related incident is incredibly low.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/18 02:19 AM
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shaved gay twink How old are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/18 02:13 AM
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I don’t understand why men are so threatened by #metoo. unless they’re admitting that a culture of sexualizing women and excusing sexual harassment by men does in fact benefit them. One Word. Aziz.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/18 02:08 AM
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I think "incels" are a bigger issue than, say, But the thing is incels are truly a very small population. Most men I knew in college who were virgins were not violently frustrated. A lot of them cared more about science projects or programming than women. And men who are sexually lacking but are more affluent simply hire prostitutes or go on exotic vacations. I think the whole incels issue is just used as propoganda by leftist media.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/18 02:07 AM
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I am confused? don't get the purpose of your comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/18 02:01 AM
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Most people will never be JFK so your point is irrelevant. There are always examples of extreme scenarios where people violate their basic rules for dating or sex, but they're typically exceptions The point is what women believe are basic rules aren't really how they interact with such men when they actually meet them. Women's attraction may be more complex, but it's not a mystery to them or other people. Sounds Solipsistic
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/18 02:01 AM
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Yes 4 events, out of the thousands and thousands of mass shootings over the year.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/18 01:39 AM
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Your doing the exact same thing I am talking about in my OP lol. The ideas you have about that man likely don't match the feelings you would have if he approached you in person, and was dressed differently.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/18 11:48 PM
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Let's think of it this way, Elliot Rodger didn't really inspire any legislation. Nor did it have any real policy change impact. I would say if anything Brock Turner was the start of the 4th wave. It's a much more realistic scenario a woman might encounter.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/18 11:40 PM
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A feminist issue is whatever feminists make into an issue. Is this sarcastic? I can't tell. women organized to reply "You're missing the point. We've all felt danger, and are in danger, from the Elliot Rodgers of the world." That was a like a minor blip in the news for a few days. It's nothing compared to #metoo that won the time person of the year....
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/18 10:26 PM
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I don't think it's intentional though, I have talked to lots of women and it's just sometimes they can't actually pin point what about men drives their lust.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/18 10:25 PM
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Disagree. First of all ER is not really a feminist issue. He was a loner who went on a violent rampage and wrote some manifesto. There are only 2 known incidents related to incels of this nature. ER is really a mass shooting issue. Women should organize to protect themselves from male sexual aggression. Lol, women love male sexual aggression from men they find attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/18 10:20 PM
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But that level of physique is very far removed from what is naturally possible. That's what I am trying to get at here.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/18 10:17 PM
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I'm not talking like bodybuilder dudes, those aren't most dudes. You know there is a lot between a normal dude and a body builder right? I brought this up since women usually have a poor judge of how much work and effort a good physique as a guy even takes. I am talking about guys like this https://cf.girlsaskguys.com/q2336276/fd52c571-6285-4100-862b-7b8410b00ee6.jpg
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/18 10:04 PM
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Going to the gym wouldn't be classified as manipulation by that standard because how is it not real? Because fitness models, or the guy's you see with impeccable physiques are using a complex routine of macro counting, supplements, creatine, diuretics and possibly steroids to achieve that look. It's not a natural state of the body to be in at all. It takes an immense calculated effort and altering normal routines to look that way. I'm talking about the aloof, disinterested attitude that RP advoc…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/18 09:27 PM
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If I go to San Francisco or LA, are you telling me that men will interact differently than in NY when flirting? Yes. In SF the amount of nerdy tech guys will astound you. More so there is a much stronger desire to date asian women among men here, Are you trying to say that joking, teasing, and touching are not normal flirting behaviors? Touching is not in all places no. California is huge on sexual harassment and assault, so a lot of that can be iffy if you don't know people well.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/18 09:22 PM
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Going to a different state isn't like going to a different country anymore. Yea that's solipsism. San Francisco is like a total 180 flip than NY. It's full of techies, activism, asians, etc. The demographics of NY are severely different than San Francisco. NY is severely different than LA as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/18 08:25 PM
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Right, but again, there are no rights for people or programs to have entitlement to the IRS revenue that directly comes from tax payers.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/18 07:17 PM
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It DOES work, because it is teaching normal behavior. That's how it helps them. Normal is a catch-all phrase that is really just solipsism. What criteria are you using to define normal? Where do you live? What culture are you basing this off of? What places.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/18 06:59 PM
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It’s a legislated entitlement. No it isn't. You really need to read up more on what a budget is in a government and how it's mandated. But the government is for the people and by the people in any democracy. Now that's delusional. A democracy means any opinion and idea can be expressed, and anyone can run for office and fight for their own ideas. No where is it guaranteed that the spreading of income is used to benefit all people. Many government officials like Paul Ryan want to cancel social pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/18 06:57 PM
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Well because it's not real. That has NOTHING to do with manipulation. By this standard anything, going to the gym, wearing suits, wearing make up, wearing push up bras, are all manipulation. All jokes are manipulation Not many people want to push themselves onto someone who's making it seem like they're unwanted. That's not what IDGAF attitude is. You obviously are just forming strawman of actual concepts. You're ACTING like you don't care about the outcome, BECAUSE you care about the outcome. W…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/18 06:53 PM
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The government is entitled to a portion of your income. The government is yes. But the government is not forced to allocate that income toward any specific social programs. https://www.npr.org/2017/05/01/526436087/trumps-budget-proposal-threatens-funding-for-major-after-school-program Any form of public funding is tied toward budgeting, which is not a right nor a law. It can be changed by legislators at any time.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/18 06:33 PM
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You did, you said taxation: entitlement to someone else’s body through the taxation of their labor Entitlement is a direct relationship. It's not some pinpoint map with 10 stops along the way. A much more accurate example is that people are entitled for fire department assistance if their house is on fire, or actual public services.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/18 06:18 PM
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because I am absolutely entitled to someone’s body through labor. No you aren't. Social programs aren't in the bill of rights. The government must elect programs to be funded, there is no law requiring they must allocate X dollars to certain programs.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/18 06:02 PM
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Keeping in mind that social programs are an entitlement to someone else’s body through the taxation of their labor. This is an extremely flawed train of logic The government chooses which programs to allocate the funding it elects, there is no law mandating that individuals are entitled directly to government revenue. Basically, it's not correct to claim one is entitled to the IRS's money.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/18 06:01 PM
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Based on some other comments I think OP is a muslim.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/18 05:30 PM
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I was a virgin until 22 when I lost it on a trip to Thailand with prostitutes. Before I did it was horrible, I was very sad and depressed during college.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/18 05:01 PM
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Again, your claiming a mathematical fallacy. If a couple breaks up, both the man and the woman are leaving the relationship, and going on to find new relationships. Your reading too many incel posts
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/18 04:58 PM
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Most men, including RPers, are not attractive enough to next and switch a woman That's a facetious statement. Men are obviously breaking up with women and forming new relationships all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/18 03:23 PM
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How on earth is IDGAF attitude manipulation? Any woman laps that shit up like ice cream.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/18 03:21 PM
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because they're normal human interactions. Like 'agree and amplify' is just joking. Literally, that's all it is. That's like saying everyone has the same personality. I mean surely you understand RP helps guys who don't have the most desirable or lovely personalities for attracting women right?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/18 03:19 PM
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Well so your claim about a lack of sex not being a problem for incels is false.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/18 02:32 AM
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Exactly! That is not their problem. Homeless people are mentally ill. Your jumping to conclusions without any evidence. You need to prove mental illness causes homelessness and not homelessness causing mental illness.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/18 11:17 PM
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even if it is illegal in their area, whatever. Not really. With backpage gone in the US unless you actually know pimps it's extraordinarily difficult to find any prositute. If you think it's so easy please show us how it's done. Lack of sex is not incels problem. That's like saying a lack of money isn't a homeless persons problem... prostitutes are too damn expensive for that. In countries where it's legal it's not. Do you even care to discuss things ? In Amsterdam it's usually just 50 euros
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/18 02:09 PM
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I think here there are two problems, incels and a cultural phenomenon of young men being sexually frustrated. On a cultural level, the United States doesn't have the idea you can just go and have sex available to you whenever you want with a pretty girl. Culturally the idea of prostitution isn't present. So you are correct in the sense that prostitution would onna culture wide level cure frustration for young men whom feel they have no sex life. Incels, however, are a whole different problem. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/18 08:42 AM
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You're overexaggerating how bad the average incel's social skills actually are though. I really doubt the average incel would have that much trouble contacting the correct personnel and planning whatever corresponding logistics there are necessary to hire a prostitute for the night. I can't find it now, but I had a discussion here once with an incel who stayed a couple days in Bangkok, a city filled to the brim with prositutes, even simply standing in the street for you, and didn't even bother o…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/18 08:35 AM
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I think he is saying that being exposed to sex might disable a lot of the crippling thinking patterns incels have, such as their uber fixation on looks, or other misconceptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/18 08:30 AM
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Where did you get this graph? 22-35 is a wide age range. It would be interesting to see what sampling they used, or what kind of questions they ask. that means more women are having more sex with a smaller percentage of men, Not necessarily, that's a very small percentage difference. It means 92% of women are having sex with 86% of men, that's far, far, from the 80/20 principle of TRP. This says more though that the percentage of men with no sex life is much more common than people believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/18 05:55 AM
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Part of the issue here is feminists or people twist the idea of entitlement to mean permission. Like they claim any time a man hits on a woman in a bar is entitlement.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/18 08:29 PM
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The biggest players I personally know are nice, friendly normies with incredible social skills. They just make everyone around them feel awesome, including the women. Yea chad game is on another level then TRP game.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/18 06:53 PM
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If the woman is obsessed her heavily concerned with earning lots of money, or is a workaholic. If the woman is a doctor or investment banker, or any sort of super intellectually difficult career most women aren't interested in. If the woman is a huge SJW (mild or moderate SJW's are fine since it makes them more adventurous for sex) If she is very wealthy, or is white and grew up in an affluent neighborhood.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/18 04:40 PM
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So you would agree it makes no sense to categorize PoC - people of color as one massive group ?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/18 06:02 AM
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He won the popular vote in the states needed to become president. Popular vote is not the deciding criteria to become the POTUS. I have never understood this argument liberals make.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/18 06:01 AM
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Because people are more racist and xenophobic than concerned for the long term well being of the country. Women included. Why did Trump get 30% of the latino vote?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/18 05:22 AM
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It wasn't supposed to change right and wrong though. It's a disgusting habit of feminism to try to change it and try whatever tools they have to shame men into the changes. I guess men are more chill with being labeled assholes. Feminism doesn't really change it though, that's the problem. What happens is that feminism states things like don't approach women or don't neg her, or don't pursue just for sex, etc. look at this The emphasis on appearance, sexual prowess, and accesos zaira Álvaro in t…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/18 05:21 AM
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Why did Donald Trump win the election then? I mean if he is so fat and lousy, why did people vote him in?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/18 05:15 AM
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They way I see it is, if women aren't held to a particular moral standard, men have no real incentive to also follow that standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/18 11:52 PM
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He is imposing certain catastrophic losses on her (for the sake of OP's argument, assuming she can not get another boyfriend and that this is catastrophic) to spare himself from facing the probability of non catastrophic losses. That would only be the case if they are financially involved or co-habiting, or she doesn't have anyone else to care for her during cancer treatment.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/18 08:16 PM
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I can't see how his action might be moral. Even if real life allows for much worse actions to go unpunished. I mean most people in the modern age have a much lower standard of morality.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/18 08:15 PM
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i think its everywhere. especially on reddit, the manosphere, and more conservative areas. That's called confirmation bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/18 03:16 PM
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I also don't think the woman you posted was ugly. She was just overweight. She is morbidly obese and old I think your not judging looks how a man would truly judge them which makes this post kind of pointless.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/18 09:35 PM
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That girl definitely is not ugly........ I think the issue here is all the women you are likely considering are already within a guy's erection material range. So yes, social status helps you when you are already feminine and cute looking at the minimum.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/18 09:25 PM
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What do you mean by ugly though? https://t4.ftcdn.net/jpg/00/77/17/55/500_F_77175518_XZ44AIy88JL0ze1XKf6dB4RowzpXHBre.jpg Like this kind of ugly?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/18 09:09 PM
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I'm actually arguing that she didn't solely get it from her looks. Because OtherStacy is pretty too. In cases like these it's normally because the more popular stacy is more sexually dressed or has a more flirty personality, or is in some way more feminine. But it's dependent on looks. Without looks, social status cannot be gained by women, or not the kind of status men are drawn to in women. I'm also not arguing that a man will regularly choose an ugly popular woman over a not popular pretty wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/18 08:49 PM
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the popular Stacy when there's an equally attractive, but less popular and perhaps less "cool" OtherStacy behind her. But stacy got her popularity from her looks..... this is the point your missing here.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/18 08:41 PM
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The status or class a woman has largely revolves around her beauty. For example, a lot of rich businessmen want trophy wives. Trophy wives are normally wealthy, but they use their wealth to enhance themselves, via good clothes, plastic surgery, fitness, facial injections/fillers. Also a lot of IG models that have millions of follows largely have those because of their looks. So yes, in part the status and class of women do matter, but it's only status and class that relate to beauty. No man is f…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/18 08:39 PM
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while women who have lotsa guys around are generally shamed and called "sluts" Outside of church this doesn't happen. Your mixing two extremely different crowds of people. Male rockstars aren't slut shaming anyone lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/18 04:46 PM
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The problem is not so much about conspiracy, but rather the acceptance of assumptions as facts. This is happening in both the left and right wing of politics. A feminist saying holding the door open for women is an example of men using the patriarchy to oppress women is an assumption treated as fact. The very idea that someone feels the intellectual authority to assume facts about others intention and treat them as undeniable truth is very very concerning.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/18 03:29 AM
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Your spinning a self-fulfilling prophecy. A women decided whom is hot and who isn't. Not men. This is one of the problems with incel theories.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/18 03:25 AM
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Facebook deletes the accounts of all mass shooters. You know you need to prove things....no one cares about your assumptions lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/18 03:23 AM
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Beta Bob won't cause tingles even if she's a virgin. Your confusing a beta for omega. If bob gets tot he point of actually exciting her enough to agree to sex with him then he has met that threshold. Your also using a strawman, women marrying as virgins is extremely uncommon, unless you are like form India, to be a minimum baseline that is non-trivial to achieve. I would say men who are under 5'6", obese, or on the ASD spectrum may encounter this, but otherwise no it's easy to achieve.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/18 11:49 PM
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those men are unwanted Attraction doesn't exist on a completely binary scale. I mean yes there are guys who are a flat out no to anything, but that's definitely not 99%. If that was really true girls would never post hot pics of themselves on instagram or go to night clubs. It's more like 80/20,
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/18 10:40 PM
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It's amusing that women actually think men enjoyed working extra hours instead of spending time with their families. Feminists cherry pick sugar coated visions of career success. They look at very successful entrepreneurs who are self employed, which don't represent the majority of people in most careers.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/18 09:45 PM
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Huh? Im a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/18 09:25 PM
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But validation isn't exactly abundance. All abundance mentality means is that your not desperate for sexual opportunities and feel sexually competent.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/18 08:49 PM
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Women do not want most men who would have sex with them, and abundance of nothing or garbage is worthless, options are not potential choices. I don't believe this is true, some women here have stated that simply having the attention of many men is validating in and of itself. Women don't need sex specifically for validation.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/18 08:23 PM
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yes but it won't be a widely appealing chad. A lot of rappers like Rick Ross are overweight but obviously drowning in women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/18 08:18 PM
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The problem is that when people are used to living in a patriarchal society, they look at anything slightly less patriarchal and think it's a "matriarchy". But that's not the case here. Feminism is referring to a society largely led and crafted by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/18 05:41 PM
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Yup. What happens is a lot of guys lie about their size to women and the women believe it, making it seem like 9 inch dicks are out and about lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/18 04:30 PM
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Women don't interact with pictures at all the same way they do men in real life....
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/18 02:10 PM
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You think its all relative and not based on biology at all? No. some parts of men are desired biologically, like confidence, height, sexual assertiveness, or just overall masculine qualities. However though, a lot of it changes depending on what kind of men a woman is experiencing. Or rather, the standards can become raised. A girl who never works out and never spends time around guys who work out would be impressed if she merely met a guy who was somewhat muscular and worked out frequently. A g…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/18 02:09 PM
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that keeping women sexually inexperienced before marriage will mean she'll have better sex within it (of course not all TRPers argue this)... is wrong. This logic makes no sense. It's like saying that experiences have no effect on a person, and people with different experiences are likely the same. It's no different than saying it's just as easy to impress an MLB player as it is a little leaguer with your batting skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/18 04:32 AM
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agree entirely, but the point I am making is that if virgin-wife marries Beta Bob, she won't respond to him as if he were a Chad. Nope not true. If women don't know Chad exists, or that a Chad is extremely rare it won't effect anything. Like how White guys who are merely above average here go to China or Asia and become a Chad. All of this is based on men relative to your current environment.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/18 04:28 AM
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Incels don't merely claim looks matter, they claim this https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/8fuq9n/despite_what_you_may_have_heard_the_okcupid_blog/dy6oqha/ They claim that there is some looks threshold that any guy over it can do or say whatever he want's and get pornstar level sex, and any guy not meeting it cannot even get near women. More so they deny that any form of non-genetic looks boost helps, like working out or fashion style.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/18 11:46 PM
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and you went to an irrelevant discussion about rape? It's not irrelevant, your claiming if a man is found good looking by a woman he can do or say anything he wants and not have any issue with it. If that was true, there would be no such athletes accused of rape where the encounter initially begins as consensual but then develops into some too aggressive act where the girl doesn't want it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/18 11:41 PM
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look at this comment https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/8fuq9n/despite_what_you_may_have_heard_the_okcupid_blog/dy6oqha/ /u/changeIsTheWay is just using this post as a means to post woe is me comments
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/18 11:38 PM
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If a guy is already good looking anything he does and says halos over. Then why does rape or sexual assault exist? If this is true than athletes wouldn't be accused of rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/18 11:36 PM
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The reality is, an average guy who is thin and makes average money will not have any luck with an average girl who is thin and makes average money. In terms of casual sex or dating? Also that's a misleading comparison. Women making the same as men in any tire are making more money relative to their gender. For example, Silicon valley is notorious for being overfilled with single men. Most of these men are engineers who make 100k+. Yet most engineering departments are very under staffed with fema…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/18 11:28 PM
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Have you ever seen a girl's Tinder, man? Yes, plenty of them, through casual conversations with friends at a bar. The point is tinder is a very low investment for women. Simply matching doesn't predict sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/18 11:09 PM
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Your misunderstanding the point. He, along with other incels are asserting merely looking some way draws women to you like flies, and any man whom doesn't meet this look threshold is doomed to fail with any woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/18 11:08 PM
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That applies to ultra rich men. Not your ugly engineer betabuxer there is nothing in the article about how rich the men are......
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/18 11:00 PM
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Are you going to deny this one? Study: women have more orgasms with rich men
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/18 10:58 PM
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it does though No it doesn't. There is no proof of this because they have other options Again where did you assume this from? How on earth do you know each and every girl I matched? Why do you not see how girls can just randomly be not interested in certain guys for reason besides looks? If women are so concerned only with looks why is there no real market for female porn?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/18 10:56 PM
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Initial romantic interest does not guarantee or predict sex. I have tons of matches on tinder, quite a few from conventionally beautiful young girls. Many of them have never replied to a message let alone showed interest in actually meeting.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/18 10:50 PM
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It's useless arguing with him, he is an incel. If you bring up any man who looks objectively attractive yet doesn't get laid, he will state that man isn't actually attractive. If you bring up a man who isnt handsome or tall yet is famous and has beautiful girlfriends, he will state those girls don't actually get wet for him and just want him for his money. It's a self fulfilling prophecy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/18 10:49 PM
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Dude, deny reality all you want. The 1% is what's needed to really slay. https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/8fpqo8/the_top_1_of_men_in_different_categories/dy6hi6v/?context=3 here is a comment proving it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/18 10:44 PM
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Your argument rests on a random comment by a single dude. There are 100's of these comments on TRP. How many do I need to show you?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/18 09:48 PM
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And it's for this reason women get upset when men hit on them. By the time they ever reach her she's already made her decision. Everything he does after that is a waste of her time. This is only true if a woman, prior to the man approaching was actively looking at men nearby and took the time to evaluate the said man. But as a whole your not wrong, it's just sometimes the approach a guy makes allows a woman to notice him and makes his presence known. Put it this way, guys eyes are always on aler…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/18 08:01 PM
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Being top 1% man doesn’t mean you have to be top 1% in those arbitrary categories. height or income IS NOT an arbitrary category jesus christ. Height is one of the most important factors for women selecting men. Income level is associated with more orgasms in women. It seems your the one irritated by my post. Your argument rests on TRP advocating being top 1% of height. That’s just false right off the bat. My argument rests on a comment that suggests men can keep getting young hot girls in their…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/18 07:54 PM
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Oh, so you agree that its actually relatively easy to be in the top 1% of guys since you don't need to be anywhere near the top 1% in each of the categories you noted? What are you arguing about then? It's not relatively easy. The top 20% of height for men is still 6 feet. You cannot change your height so 80% of men are below the 20-20-20 scenario you are specifying. The average height for men (50% percentile) is between 5'9" and 5'10" https://www2.census.gov/library/publications/2010/compendia/…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/18 06:45 PM
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That's what /u/HigHog doesn't seem to get.....
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/18 04:51 PM
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It means it's not 0.01 income multiplied by 0.01 height........
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/18 03:15 PM
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A 2004 study by psychologist Timothy A. Judge, Ph.D., of the University of Florida, and researcher Daniel M. Cable, Ph.D., of the University of North Carolina, found that every inch of height amounts to a salary increase of about $789 per year (the study controlled for gender, weight and age). By this calculation, someone who is 6 feet tall earns $5,525 more annually than someone who is 5 feet, 6 inches. Over the course of a career, of course, those numbers can really add up. http://www.cnn.com/…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/18 03:07 PM
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There are tons of threads in the incel forums about how they would kill people to become Chad. How much in denial are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/18 03:05 PM
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TRP would never advocate being top 1% of specific categories. They do all the damn time, did you see the comment I linked? How many more do you need to see. Being top 1% of every attractive category would mean you are in the 99.9999999th percentile, which is virtually impossible. Which i never stated nor alluded to. Stop spinning this strawman.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/18 03:03 PM
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Not really, the average income of doctors have been decreasing overtime. Surgeons or cardiologists probably make that or better, but definitely not your primary doc.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/18 03:01 PM
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Also your math is wrong, the multiply rule of probability is only true if the random variables of say height and income are independent from one another. There are already studies proving height leads to more financial success.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/18 02:57 PM
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I never said anything about being in the top 1% overall, I broke it down into categories for a reason. Also if you read any previous comments it's obvious I'm a man. I reported all of your personal attacks in that comment chain.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/18 02:55 PM
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This is a strawman as I never stated about being in the top 1% in all categories. According to my height percentile chart, the top 20% of men IN HEIGHT ONLY is 6 feet tall. Yet no one considers 6 feet tall to be in the tip top percent of height. Nice try though.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/18 02:53 PM
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Being 6'4" is not freakishly tall by any standard at all. This is a solipsistic perspective you have. The average height for US Men is 5'10". Most people aren't watching the NBA and saying "hey these guys are freaks!". The average height in the NBA is also 6'6"......
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/18 08:19 AM
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What I am saying is, we aren't seeing groups of men consoling each other for being rejected for being too tall by women. We aren't seeing hordes of men complaining about being too tall. Furthermore, being taller makes you more noticeable among a crowd of other men. Your not in correct in what your saying, it's just it doesn't show that it's somehow better to be average than large or taller.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/18 08:11 AM
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The key word here is sounds, your judging this based off a conceived image in your head and not actually experiencing such a height or penis in the moment.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/18 07:41 AM
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Sexually frustrated men are especially susceptible to joining radical movements. There’s a reason ISIS promised their foreign fighters a submissive sex slave war bride who they could rape at will. Found some interesting post where tons of incels would kill several people just to become chad. It's really sad. https://incels.me/threads/would-you-kill-someone-for-beauty.39736/
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/18 04:18 AM
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https://nationalpostcom.files.wordpress.com/2018/04/min7771.jpg?quality=60&strip=all&w=1000&h=750
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/18 03:49 AM
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Ten people were run over by a van..... Can you at least read the article? lol...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/18 01:56 AM
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Need to resort to ad-hominem huh? The ratio wouldn't matter in this case, we are simply asking who is committing more crime. And if you want to take ratios into account t hurts your argument. Since there are 3* as less blacks than whites, and there are twice as many blacks killing whites, that's an even higher amount in a smaller population. Also the idea of black on black crime is distorted by only counting violent crime. Tons of college towns are filled with black on white muggings and robberi…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/18 01:55 AM
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Oh definitely, 100% agree. The incel forums are cesspools of rage ready to explode.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/18 12:17 AM
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Because if the company running the website states something is true and multiple people at that company confirm it it's true. Unless you have superior evidence to Facebook questioning it is just coping.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/18 12:10 AM
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Your making up stats as you go along. The statistics show that the 500 killings of white people attributed to blacks last year were the most since black perpetrators were determined to be responsible for the homicides of 504 white people nationwide in 2008. Last year's total was up 12 percent from the 446 recorded in 2014 and 22 percent from the 409 seen in 2013, a year that saw the lowest total this century and one that capped seven years of general declines in black-on-white homicides. Prior t…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/18 12:09 AM
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I never claimed this man isn't a terrorist. Him along with any white passing or white men who commit mass murders are terrorists. As a whole though if we want to designate what group is causing the most violence or gun violence it isn't white people, or muslims.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/18 12:04 AM
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Twisted how?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/18 04:46 PM
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Thousands of guys heavier and less masculine looking then him have beautiful girlfriends. Autism is the issue here.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/18 04:44 PM
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Are you being sarcastic here? Neither this man, no Elliott Rodger is white. Also black men commit far more violent crime than white men do. Why is this not talked about?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/18 04:41 PM
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But he isn't ugly to the point where he is repulsive to any woman. I have seen Asians who look way worse than him get beautiful girlfriends. The point is there is not some looo threshold these incels are actually below.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/18 02:57 PM
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Buddy where is your proof? Do you work for FaceBook? If not your making yourself look like a fool here.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/18 02:55 PM
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Nice try: Within minutes of learning of the attack and the suspect’s identity, Facebook took down Mr. Minassian’s account. The alleged attacker had posted praise for a mass murderer in the United States who was part of the “incel” movement – a women-hating collection of “involuntarily celibate” men in online forums and other sites frustrated by their lack of success sexually attracting women. “This is a terrible tragedy and our hearts go out to the people who have been affected,” Meg Sinclair of…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/18 06:50 AM
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Proof?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/18 06:36 AM
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Oh i see, I have a few buddies in college who moved to China or Japan and found great wives :)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/18 06:21 AM
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Interesting post. But what exactly is your idea here? There is some comment about you using back page or prostitutes ? Did you escape inceldom by using prostitutes ?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/18 06:15 AM
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He was medically diagnosed with high functioning autism, so being unable to connect to others isn't an opinion. I had one autistic friend who benefitted a lot from using some prositutes, not sure if this would apply to all of them though.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/18 05:57 AM
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I'm confused, are you trying to woe is me here or are you saying improving personality is more important than fitness ?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/18 05:55 AM
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Are you saying that if he didn't visit incel chat rooms he wouldn't have killed people? Not with the proper therapy no. You know you need evidence to support what your saying....
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/18 05:33 AM
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TRP PUAs admit that the "game" has become harder, due to partially an inflated sense of SMV and RMV felt by modern women. In my opinion i don't think it's so much the liberation of women though. I think lately with America's gym culture the standard of masculinity has gone way up.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/18 05:32 AM
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Now that he is a bona-fide certified mass-murderer he should expect to begin to see all the love letters streaming in from young wet girls, Not too sure about that. The story isn't on CNN or any major news network's front page. The parkland shooting was a huge huge case that made nation wide news for several weeks.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/18 05:17 AM
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his mannerisms could've been nerdy/spergy/etc and that would've greatly helped reduce women's interest in having sex with him. Yes in the other article linked he was diagnosed with high functioning autism, and described by classmates as being afraid of women. We could make the argument that these killings are at least in part a consequence of contemporary/intersectional/tumblr feminism which creates an environment that encourages/exacerbates a lack of sympathy for men suffering from these kinds …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/18 05:16 AM
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So you give credence to what mentally ill people say? Well of course. To what their perception of things are yes. So if he said Hello Kitty told me to kill people you would take it serious? Hello kitty is not a radical or cult like movement so this is a straw man. Do you not believe that someone who is already mentally ill, can be influenced by spending large amounts of time in echo chambers where people like ER are worshipped or radical perversions of truth are discussed?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/18 05:11 AM
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You see them come and go to this sub quite regularly but the amount of people I know in real life who genuinely believe men and women are the same (besides a few superficial physical characteristics) is astonishing. Personally, I don't mind if this stops at professionalism. Like no issue if people say lets have more female coders/doctors etc. But denying this on the level of sex and relationships is really bad. I mean it's just not how things work.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/18 05:02 AM
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You realize that what you read in the news is not always true but usually has an agenda right? Unless you have proof multiple, credible news sources, and Facebook themselves are wrong I have no reason to believe you. Yes he is obviously fucked up, but people do not spontaneously start doing these things out of the blue. We have to consider what he personally stated in his own facebook post.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/18 04:59 AM
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The fact that you are even connecting the two. With your train of thought if this guy was a Hello Kitty fan, we could also blame it on that. Wtf, he was sick and damaged, he killed people because he was sick and damaged, not because he visited some incel website. Rebellion? Buddy it's not me, it's the article..... We know this because he told us so. On Tuesday afternoon, Facebook confirmed the authenticity of a post in his name, in which he pledged allegiance to something called the “Incel Rebel…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/18 04:51 AM
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I recently read a evolutionary anthropology paper on female mating strategy from the university of Utah written in 1994 that talked about status, wealth and genetic fitness. Academics have been studying and theorizing about this stuff for many decades. I wonder if this will make it more mainstream or at least less taboo. That paper would be incredibly taboo today. Feminists hate that shit. In reality feminists hating academia like that makes things worse. It just creates more confused men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/18 04:49 AM
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He was clearly mentally ill. People like him need help, not other mentally ill people feeding into their illness. Exactly, I have yet to see any sort of incel or lookism guy that is truly displeasing or at all terrible to look at. I mean this guy had a good jawline, was masculine looking. If he went to the gym and did stuff right he would have turned out ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/18 04:48 AM
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So that's the your justification Where did I say anything is justified?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/18 04:46 AM
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Do not make this guy a martyr for the incel movement, he was a retard who couldn't even drive and in no way a terrorist. Um don't follow here? He pledged allegiance to the beta-incel rebellion.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/18 04:41 AM
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Thanks,
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/18 04:28 AM
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The moderation team will discuss it. ok thanks for considering it. I just feel it's more of a major news event.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/18 04:08 AM
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It depends on what environment you are approaching women in. If you are approaching girls in the gym, you need to be VERY muscular, like with visible abs, huge arms, big traps etc. If you are approaching girls in Cafe's or normal places, you should just be fit or somewhat strong looking. Overall this is a good rule to follow: If you look more weak, smaller, or less masculine than the men around you, you aren't going to get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/18 11:01 PM
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"women" get no assistance, Why are there women only programs to help women learn how to code? Yet programs only for men of such don't exist?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/18 05:15 PM
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The study didn't specify that they slept with their bosses while being a director or hire, it simply sampled women from that group. Since most women have jobs why do you think that's an unreasonable title?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/18 07:25 AM
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I guess what I am saying is that killing and torture and exclusive to communism, it existed long before it and will long after it. Genghis Khan was the most ruthless, brutal invader of history, he wasn't communist at all. Just recently Duterte of the phillipines launched a campaign that police can kill anyone on site if they are caught using illegal drugs. Communist ideals don't cause violence,
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/18 01:04 AM
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And the US putting you on a no fly list with no due process is wrong. So your saying a government doesn't have supreme power over it's airspace?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/18 11:47 PM
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http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-pol-ca-cristina-garcia-sexual-harassment-investigation-20180209-story.html One of the leaders of the metoo movement was accused of sexual misconduct for talking about sex in her office, which dealt with consent and sexual legislation. No one is safe.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/18 11:46 PM
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They are making a big deal about this in this thread https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/8f4lka/15_of_women_have_consensually_slept_with_their/dy137yt/ or here: Attempts by men to express confusion about where the lines are have largely been met with derision. When one guy told the New York Times that workplaces should cancel their holiday parties “until it has been figured out how men and women should interact,” he was dismissed in my work Slack. When a sheriff in Texas wrote on …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/18 11:37 PM
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One women consenting is not reason for a man to push and intimidate other women who are not interested. It’s a ridiculous argument. You’re making men seem insanely stupid by using that argument. If he knows a woman is not interested and continuously pesters them then yes there is no excuse for that. I am talking about a man making any attempt to date his co workers, and then stopping that attempt after a no is found.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/18 11:30 PM
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If Sarah has a consensual affair with her boss, and Robert the boss at another company hears about it and makes an inappropriate pass at his own employee hoping she’ll be interested in dating him, that isn’t Sarah’s fault. Yes it is. If we believe in the concept of gender equality, if a woman is allowed to seduce or interact with her boss in a sexual way, then another man should therefore be able to attempt to interact or date another female co-worker. If we don't want any sexual activity taking…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/18 11:29 PM
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Who said they were inappropriate sexual advances? It is widely accepted that any office or corporate jobs it's not proper or appropriate to have sexual relations with your co workers....... Come on
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/18 11:22 PM
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we just do not like click bait-esque titles. Yes i know it's not going to be removed, I am just saying the intent is not click bait but to keep the discussion from being misinterpreted.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/18 11:21 PM
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Men are responsible for their own actions, it’s absurd to blame women who had consensual sex for men who act inappropriately. So you don't believe women have agency then?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/18 11:20 PM
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Nice way to try and blame women for a man committing sexual assault... Plz cite where I do this, thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/18 11:19 PM
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In the future please make a title that accurately reflects the article you want to discuss. But it does, I believe this title is needed because it would be a confusion that these 15% of women had un-consensual sex or were coerced into doing so for fear of losing their job. There needs to be an emphasis on that the woman chose, in this case to consent to these actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/18 10:30 PM
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Well of course consensual sex isnt discussed in the metoo movement. The metoo movement is about non-consensual sexual interactions! Do you not see how women enabling forms of inappropriate sexual interactions (workplace) relationships, can encourage such powerful men to advance sexually onto more women whom aren't interested? I mean, it's kind of agreed most people aren't working for their boss purely because they are attracted to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/18 10:28 PM
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And, well, are the evangelists and BLM activists wrong? They aren't wrong but what they are doing is akin to feminists mixing in harassment, assault and rape all into the same category.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/18 10:27 PM
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Because harassment and consensual sexual relationships are totally the same thing. Right, Do you see how some women enabling inappropriate sexual advances by accepting them would encourage such men to try sexual advances on other women in the workplace that aren't interested in them? Think a little deeper.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/18 10:25 PM
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Even if a man is otherwise attractive, I'm automatically turned off by the fact that he's my boss. I don't understand how women can be attracted to men with authority over them. Because women are enchanted by power, dominance, and aggression. It's like fucking your uncle or something. That's because you have the image of an old ugly man in your head. Your not experiencing such opportunities in the moment. For example: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2099498/Mimi-Alford-The-day-JFK-took-v…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/18 10:23 PM
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Yes, and consensual sex with your boss does nothing to disprove that. That's an oxymoron. If not all women are facing un-consensual sexual activity in the work place, that narrative doesn't represent all women. In what possible way could women choosing to have consensual sex contribute to non-consensual advances? Normally the workplace is not a place for sexual advances. A man in charge with lots of women below him gets cocky if he can sleep with one or two of his co-workers, so he will at some …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/18 10:19 PM
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Why should they? That's YOUR moral good, not theirs. They are pursuing the highest moral good that they can think of. To them, they're do-gooders. Just because their good doesn't match yours doesn't make them any less good in their own eyes. Because you previously brought up the pursuit of equality. I don't give a fuck how. Just because they accidentally killed millions isnt a mark in their favor. That's not a technicality that let's them off the hook. No but the whole "killed" argument can be s…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/18 07:07 PM
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They believe the highest good is through radical Islam and are making ends toward that. Yes, they believe they are the good guys. Yes, they believe they are morally right. Right, but they don't advocate for social equality, or any form of class equality. in the case of communism, millions. Communism never executed millions of people. Most of the deaths stem from failure of a planned economy. Also in reality not all communist regimes are equal. The Khmer Rouge regime of cambodia was far, far more…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/18 06:01 PM
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Why would anyone talk about that openly? Because everyone is yelling loudly how they experience workplace harassment?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/18 05:58 PM
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A woman who willingly had sex with someone doesn't mean it's okay to force her to have sex again be it with the same partner or another one. This is doubly so for DIFFERENT woman. Because metoo frames this as any sort of romantic interaction in the workplace is not only unwanted but the man's fault. It's not creating nuance and saying how some women, factually, consensually, sleep with their bosses. It's really never a good idea to try to sleep with someone you have power over, even if they woul…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/18 05:57 PM
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ISIS definitely thinks they're doing a moral good. They prove my point. Can you provide proof?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/18 05:27 PM
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/u/LewisCross, I think what OP is saying by "the future is female" is that male designated roles in society have been demolished: The men had a purpose in life(being family man). And that family was completely dependent on him and couldn't leave. but female roles, activities and identity are still very prevalent and structured. The way I see it, a lot of modern advances (plastic surgery, instagram, snapchat, other social media) largely cater towards affirming the female role as a sexual one, or …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/18 05:21 PM
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In fact, assuming your ideology is morally good increases the chances that you will do great evil along the way to your utopia. Now that's mental gymnastics Did you forget about ISIS?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/18 05:14 PM
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There was lots google searches and information I tried to access that was denied to me. Didn't you use Baidu instead for searching?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/18 04:27 PM
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Yea that's what I am saying, the government surveillance is not an issue unless you have a desire to be a political activist.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/18 04:14 PM
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That's a very small list that only really includes things like the postal service which is a public utility. In china for example you can't own land, you just lease it for long periods of time from the government .
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/18 03:57 PM
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But they are not fully capitalist, many companies in china are government owned. This isn't present under capitalist countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/18 03:42 PM
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Yes, you got the perspective of a non Chinese person who doesn't even speak Chinese. Would you ask a Trump supporter who has been to Mexico about their perspective of the life there ? I have no interest in expressing personal opinions about any government, so when I have been to China I just used WeChat instead of Facebook and used their apps. I had no problem with "government surveillance" when I was talking with girls I met at night clubs or getting a prositute on her WeChat lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/18 03:32 PM
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China already has robots that can groom pets I believe....
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/18 03:27 PM
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The social score is not implemented yet, can you read ? You realize Facebook and Google are storing and monitoring every single action you make online though right? You must have missed Zuckerberg's testimony, especially where he said Facebook tracks and monitors data on everyone who has or does not have a Facebook account......
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/18 03:24 PM
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Yes but they are still socially governed under communist ideals.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/18 03:19 PM
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Your confusing China for North Korea lol. We get it, your angry about losing jobs to China.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/18 03:18 PM
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Like private credit scores, a person's social score can move up and down depending on their behaviour. The exact methodology is a secret — but examples of infractions include bad driving, smoking in non-smoking zones, buying too many video games and posting fake news online. Did you miss the key part "like private credit scores "? Did you not know the US can put you on a no fly list wih no due process ? Did you even know you can get tickets for bad driving?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/18 03:16 PM
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It's not normally accepted under any countries constitution to own other human beings, so this is a straw man.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/18 03:00 PM
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has such strict social policies that if you don't fall in line you can't use public transportation What are you talking about ? You don't know anything about modern China seriously. It's clear you have never been there. Your just consuming propaganda.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/18 02:58 PM
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This exactly. Except we've already seen what mass destruction looks like when wielded in the name of "compassion" and it's called communism, and it's killed millions between Stalin and Mao. China is still ruled by the communist party today and is set to become the world's most powerful economy in a couple of years..... Nice try though !
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/18 02:12 PM
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No one is forced to believe a lie, so consent here is not being violated or overwritten. More so this would include well accepted lies such as women wearing makeup or having plastic surgery. Nobody believes a woman wearing makeup makes her steal consent.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/18 02:07 PM
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Are you aware of the extreme bias prevalent with santcuary cities ?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/18 08:06 AM
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Edit: his felony convictions should have been admissible under this standard, unless things have changed since I practiced crim law. His illegal status, no, why is that relevant? Because San Francisco is the most liberal santcuary city in the nation, whom even has one illegal immigrant serving in the state government in an appointed position. They summoned an enormous amount of jurors to attempt to get an unbiased jury, they failed.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/18 08:05 AM
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She might not be able to get any man she wants as a boyfriend though
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/18 07:47 AM
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He walked so what’s the issue here? What do you mean walked?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/18 06:40 AM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Kathryn_Steinle because the guy who committed it is an illegal immigrant from mexico
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/18 06:36 AM
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Tell that to Kate Steinle who died in her fathers arms after being shot in the back in broad daylight at Pier 38 and SF let her murderer go. Yea honestly that one was a ridiculous case. I mean the guy is a serial criminal and has been deported 5 times. It just makes the left look bad to defend a guy like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/18 05:59 AM
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Its just always easier to get things done by yourself and I think way too many women refuse learning handyman shit because of anxiety. Idk just a piece of unsolicited advice haha. Feminine nature doesn't like handyman tasks.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/18 10:39 PM
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because they were pretty boys How do you know this? What proof do you have?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/18 04:19 PM
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Lmao, do you honestly believe that? Just look up some lookism tinder experiments, attractive men can literally write that they're rapists on their bio and they'll still get tons of women. How do you know what women they are actually having sex with? you realize matching doesn't mean anything in terms of actual sex right?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/18 04:18 PM
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i don't disagree that it's stupid, but so is a ton of other "lingo" allowed here (which i don't even think this qualifies as, in the same way). But it's much, much more woe is me driven.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/18 04:17 PM
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I'm the one making personal attacks for calling you out on your bullshit? I never called all of TRP delusional, You obviously didn't read my comment nor my OP so your just making up lies in order to attack me.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/18 01:59 AM
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explains his views is detail is delusional for disagreeing with you? I never said that, and have agreed with many comments that have a reasonable view point opposite to mine. Reported for personal attacks
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/18 01:20 AM
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Tai states that you probably won’t get rich, uhhh haven't found this one. You will need to provide a source. No one had ever said that you’ll turn into Chad, never once have I read that. oh there is many many examples. A couple in this thread, here's one https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/8emggi/cmv_trp_can_improve_a_guy_relatively_but_it/dxwslqt/
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/18 11:50 PM
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TRP isn't necessarily required, it is not claimed nor my train of thought serves to prove one MUST take the pill in order to make the change, but nevertheless, TRP CAN. Not really, not TRP alone. It would have to be paired with other life changes. As for the comparison with every man being rich: You'd have to prove that "success with women" is a scarce thing. Well, we have to trust that: Women select and compare men, they choose what they believe are the best options. If women can compare men, t…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/18 11:21 PM
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So you're arguing probability over possibility? Sure, look at the example i gave with Tai Lopez.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/18 10:51 PM
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"once you go black you never go back"
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/18 10:51 PM
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I don't think that TRP claims that any man can become a Chad. Quite a few are on this thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/8emggi/cmv_trp_can_improve_a_guy_relatively_but_it/dxwslqt/?context=3
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/18 10:26 PM
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So...you're saying that Chad not putting the work in becomes average. Why is the opposite not true, that the average man putting in the work could become Chad? Let me phrase it more clearly A possible average man, can with the right circumstances can become chad, but this is NOT TRUE for all average men. Does that make sense?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/18 10:20 PM
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Plenty of men who are average in looks rack up huge n counts. You just have to be in the right scene Just like how there are teapots orbiting the sun? Example: Bertrand declares that a teapot is, at this very moment, in orbit around the Sun between the Earth and Mars, and that because no one can prove him wrong, his claim is therefore a valid one. https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/burden-of-proof
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/18 10:19 PM
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You can't seem to deal with the fact that your life is in your hands. That isn't a fact. You aren't even responding to my evidence of only the top X% of people being picked for various activities, just like how the top jobs work. Not everyone can get into medical school, not everyone can be chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/18 10:15 PM
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He's only an accountant. He goes to the gym twice a week, and he has 100 IG followers. Still Chad? Or average? Would be above average probably or average. Twice a week gym is like no muscle development at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/18 10:10 PM
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Well that's what chad largely is, a man with access to immense pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/18 09:50 PM
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If you average your money with Bill Gate's money you would be billionaires on average. that's a statistical fallacy. There are millions more people who are poor than there are billionaires. The US has the most billionaires in the world yet our average income per household is $55k
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/18 09:47 PM
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A 5'8 guy can pull like Dan Bilzerian. But he has to be like a successful DJ, instagram celebrity, or something equally ridiculous Right, but now we are beyond the scope to which RP can improve. Also Dan has lots of drugs.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/18 09:42 PM
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But they are black. They're more into black masculine types. Or nerdy types like Donald Glover. Yea so if were talking about black guys the average black dude is doing better off probably than the average white or asian guy. Especially since blacks have a lot of positive stereotypes (BBC, being alpha-muscular)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/18 09:39 PM
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If you actually saw it happening around you then you would not be able to deny it's existence. I have seen it happen many times bud, with guys who are 6'6" and on the college basketball team. It doesn't happen with average men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/18 09:30 PM
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Calling every idea that makes you uncomfortable a "coping mechanism" is ironically a coping mechanism. No it's logical fact buddy. If you raise everyone's salary to $150k a year, that becomes the new average. If every guy starts taking steroids and working out, then steroids become the new average. Maintain your frame, and don't use emotional reasoning.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/18 09:29 PM
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Aaron Rodgers missed some deadline and ended up as an accountant instead of a star quarterback, do you think he’d be a Chad or no? It would depend on what he would do with himself besides being an accountant. If he became some fitness rep and model on IG he would probably be a chad, given the exposure and attention to body.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/18 09:26 PM
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Nice Ad-Hominem !
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/18 08:56 PM
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Also beauty is in the eye of the beholder. She may not of been that hot, but looked so to 41 year old thirsty guy. umm it says HB 9
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/18 08:50 PM
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That's nuts. Of course it can't. They are that fuckable because they are rockstars and athletes. Well so you would agree that the story i linked in my OP is not possible? (10 months 41 year old gets 22 year old hot columbians approaching him)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/18 08:39 PM
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lol 3 lays in 3 days is within reach in a way that playing in the nba is not , it’s crazy to me that you’d even compare these things With average weight/BMI women?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/18 08:37 PM
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If "a" average man has the possibility of raising his value, through effort, dedication and mastery of game, to the point of been deemed Chad, why can't other average men do it? A said a men, not an average man. I was piggy-backing off the users example of a particular city having lots of women. Just like not all poor people can become rich. If all men start working out, improving their game, and walking into the same club, the standard of what is average just becomes higher. Also men will reach…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/18 08:37 PM
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Okay so your whole thread is that TRP can't turn an average man into the same level of fuckable that rock stars and athletes are? Correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/18 08:30 PM
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Are you saying an average man can't use only game and get results? Because that's not RP if he isn't improving physically also. in my title i clearly stated it can help men improve relatively. Not really. Because you said average in your OP, not any. You need to define what you mean by "average" Any man whom attempts the improve himself to the nth degree Average is just that, 5'9" height, average build, no impeccable talents, middle class family etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/18 08:24 PM
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No, see my comment here, i think you will get what I am saying more https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/8emggi/cmv_trp_can_improve_a_guy_relatively_but_it/dxwktyx/
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/18 08:17 PM
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Are you saying you can't follow self improvement to the nth degree and fuck new women every couple of days? Because you can. In a major city there are plenty women. without the use of money/sugar-daddy/prostitution you can't. The average man, whom begins at average, cannot do this. Let me make it clear: In some city, can a man improve himself to the nth degree and fuck new women every couple of days? YES In some city, can any man improve himself to the nth degree and fuck new women every couple …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/18 08:16 PM
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I just said you also did and your proof is just as nonexistent as theirs. Buddy, refuting a claim is not a claim itself. did you even read the link I sent you about the burden of proof logical fallacy?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/18 08:06 PM
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Honestly if we had a world populated completely by Chad, Chad would be nothing special and have no better success than anyone else. This is EXACTLY what I am saying. TRP and /u/decoy88 are attempting to define the average in such a way where anyone can do anything and become anything. It's a delusional coping mechanism.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/18 08:05 PM
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As those athletes and rock stars were average before they put the work in. They definitely weren't LOL. This is some next level delusional thinking. It takes years and years of training, as well as superior genetics to become a college level athlete. Only the top of the top are selected from high school teams to compete in college. There is a limited amount of people that are picked as athletes, there are a limited amount of people who are picked to give performances. Not all people can be picke…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/18 08:03 PM
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I would suspect most average guys could do 3 lays in 3 days if they really tried for a year or two Then it's not reasonably possible. I mean, would you say it's fair that most average people can become NBA players?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/18 07:56 PM
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So 'Chad' is a work of fiction. You're saying that an average guy cannot become something that does not exist? Chad definitely exists, but those men are top frat guys or college team athletes, or rock band stars. They are like stars as are to telescopes.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/18 07:55 PM
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Ok thanks for your testimony, I can speak to the truths of much of their philosophy. Now I have no problem getting dates, can't go to a happy hour without being hit on, friends girlfriends and wives often feel me up, and the women I have been with are all exceptionally high caliber (former college cheerleaders, dance team members, doctors, lawyers, in great shape and smart, etc). Would I call myself "chad"? No, but I am usually seen as an alpha and leader in most situations even if deep down ins…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/18 07:48 PM
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What is the effective difference between a guy who can do that and Chad? A chad would be unimaginable level of pussy and female attention, as in the story i described.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/18 06:50 PM
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You made a claim. If a person makes a post on a reddit claiming they are 41 years old recently divorced and having 22 year old hot columbians pick them up THAT IS THE CLAIM. You said that the burden of proof lies not with the person making the claim, but with someone else to disprove. https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/burden-of-proof Get it? Well there is plenty of posts claiming as such on TRP. Nope. I have never seen one specify that it didn't involve money/prostitutes, sugar daddying, or stero…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/18 06:48 PM
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I mean you don't seem to have any proof other than a poster you think is lying and Tai Lopez which has nothing to do with TRP. The person making claims is the one needing to provide the proof. So how can I change your view? That TRP can take any average man and turn him into a chad that slays pussy like mad? If you gave me an honest testimonial of a man who started as completely average, and without the use of sugardaddy/prostitutes/money or steroids went to on a constant, regular basis sleeping…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/18 06:35 PM
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Sleeping with 3 different women in 3 days isnt that far out there How is it not? The average N count for men is 6-10
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/18 06:32 PM
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theres nothing to argue about because it was never intended to change an AFC into chad, just to maximize his ability with women But why do so many of them boast about chad-level conquests? Like sleeping with 3 different women in 72 hours?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/18 06:12 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/522sqj/fr_my_date_with_a_woman_half_my_age/ They aren't. Look at this, some average 41 year old recently divorced guy having sex with multiple different women in the same day and having hot 22 year old columbian college students approach HIM in the CLUB. ridiculous
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/18 04:59 PM
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So would you say women claiming that being noticed for their appearance undervalues them or is bad thing are nuts? https://www.bustle.com/articles/63931-stop-complimenting-other-womens-looks-why-telling-me-i-look-cute-makes-me-feel-undervalued
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/18 04:52 PM
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unwanted sexual advance towards another person But can an attempt be allowed? like after a NO does it become sexual harassment? or is any attempt that isn't wanted sexual harassment?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/18 04:43 PM
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Lol, it's funny how feminists talk about how masculinity is changing and you don't need to do X or Y to be a man, then the use the rock as an example of how to treat people. Classic.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/18 02:09 PM
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He took liberties after she told him no several times. She never said no, did you even read the Babe article? Aziz also backed off when she resisted.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/18 04:53 AM
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Sheryl Sandberg is not a tumblr vlogger, she is the COO of one of the world's largest and most powerful companies: https://www.fastcompany.com/40503301/facebooks-sheryl-sandberg-warns-of-a-me-too-backlash-against-women-at-work Sandberg wrote about her own experiences with harassment, including “a hand on my leg under the table at a meeting,” married men offering “career advice” “alone late at night”
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/18 11:33 PM
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Even if any of them did take place at work, it would not be sexual harassment. Tons and tons of metoo activists said asking out a co-worker is sexual harassment or sexual misconduct.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/18 11:24 PM
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I think your not looking at some things. Overall, the decline of the black SMP is in many ways opposite of the decline in the overall SMP. The black SMP has developed a positive identity for masculinity, such that it is prized and valued, but gets intermingled with violence and crime if it goes too far. The normal SMP has developed a negative identity of masculinity, such that it is always viewed with suspicion or concern, e.g Toxic masculinity. Being sexually aggressive is cautioned or scolded …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/18 10:31 PM
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Those are different things. Bad sex is when you agree to it but he sucks, Well, the woman involved with Aziz was definitely confused.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/18 10:00 PM
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Are you familiar with the #metoo movement?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/18 06:49 PM
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sexual harassment, as I understand it, only exists in a school or workplace context. it's not a crime Please read the thread before commenting: Bare in mind, this is not a legal debate, as most feminists do not use legal definitions. This is merely about what the people here believe, personally, counts as sexual harassment or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/18 06:03 PM
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I'm not talking about attraction. Right, but I am saying though that's an often misstep when people say masculinity isn't needed.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/18 06:02 PM
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If the girl isn't interested in the man then yes, most any interaction can be perceived as harassment. What does "can be" mean here? What is your opinion?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/18 05:24 PM
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In today's world of automation and globalization; brutishness, aggression, and and physical strength are no longer needed, and often times punished. Hunters have been replaced with farms, and even the actual killing is largely left to machinery. Soldiers are being replaced by drones, which requires no special strength that women might be lacking. One of the biggest (and most dangerous and lucrative) careers for men, oil-rigging will soon be replaced by green energy sources. Even masculine chores…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/18 05:20 PM
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Bad sex feels traumatic - like someone just repeatedly punched your insides and stole a piece of your soul. Do you see here how it's dangerous to confuse the idea of "unwanted" sex with consent? And how it makes women believe that bad sex is somehow un-consensual ?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/18 05:07 PM
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They imagine that girls are throwing themselves down at the feet of chads and if a girl doesn't do that for him, that means she sees him as beta shlub friend-zone material. That's a bit dramatic but it's largely true. Girls who do not attempt to grab a guy's attention at all are not that into him.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/18 05:05 PM
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A lot of terps disagree and think a woman who doesn’t put out right away is uninterested. Well maybe not completely uninterested but certainly not that interested. When something is really irresistible you don't wait for it long lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/18 05:04 PM
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Oh lol it's a huge muscular black dude full of tattoos.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/18 01:01 AM
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i think sending your kids to public schools is child abuse Can you give a more serious response?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/18 12:29 AM
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Ok, but bare in mind that California is incorporating and overhauling their middle school or elementary school sex Ed program to include large sections about violence against women and sexual consent. Do you think teaching feminist ideas to pre-pubescent boys could have a reasonable impact ?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/18 12:20 AM
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Based off your comment here https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/8e7622/the_reality_that_most_women_will_never_be/dxsx4pv/ Do you see how over emphasizing an anti-approach mentality done by feminists and sexual assault activists discourages men from being bold and aggressive with women?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/18 11:57 PM
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A good portion of women are asexual toward average men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/18 10:38 PM
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it’s mostly not empowering or exciting for women, it’s just a reminder of how easily and often women can be reduced to just something to look at or be used, above all else. That's only true if a woman want's to be valued in the same way men are.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/18 08:41 PM
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In modern times, generally a month with nothing beyond kissing is going to seem low key and boring for most people. My next question is though have you ever felt lust for a man? That might influence your thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/18 08:35 PM
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/u/hating-life are you talking about full on PiV sex or any form of sexual activity beyond kissing?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/18 08:28 PM
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Secondly, the basic play here is to make a good salary. Right, but I am saying though in the states you are competing against guys like this in clubs in cities like LA or SF. Men like this are not existent in most of Asia, and it's much easier to be edgy or stand out.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/18 08:25 PM
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Yea in Asia I can imagine it's going to be way easier for any above average white guy to get laid. I think the problem in the US is there are too many bad boys. Like even having a couple of tattoos or going to the gym regular doesn't make u stand out in terms of masculinity.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/18 05:32 PM
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Without significant arousal nothing works quite well enough for sex to be a thing. The vagina just doesn't appear until she's hot for it. What would significant mean here? This sounds like a cookie cutter solution but in reality would be the equivalent of incels calling for a man on men using gyms or being handsome lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/18 03:43 AM
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But that's not really BP then. BP would think maybe the robbers are poor and neeed the money. By what metric are u thinking he is BP?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/18 11:56 PM
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Yea I think this is the reason. If you have never been with a woman you are basing the potential pleasure purely off the visual appearance. You aren't basing it off the pleasure and thrill of having your sick sucked, or just the excitement and lust that comes from penetrating a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/18 06:14 PM
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but that ass though? I mean would u not be sexually interested in them?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/18 04:58 PM
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Didn't u once say your husband chased down robbers who like stole your purse even though they threatened so shoot him?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/18 04:01 PM
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Tbh, that sounds like covering up for their own insecurities over their virginity, not high standards. What does that change? They are still not willing to sleep with such girls or try to approach them. High standards can cause insecurities.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/18 04:50 AM
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Im a man. I knew in college several STEM majors who were I guess incels? (They were kissless virgins but never identified as an incel) Basically they had extraordinarily high standards for girls. Especially counting they themselves were not fit, tall or really special at all. They would even say girls like this are not hot enough https://imgur.com/gallery/Yo8YyKg
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/18 03:19 AM
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Do you not think the presence of a sexually appealing man greatly influences a woman's desire for sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/18 03:48 PM
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Neither do I, I just noticed that I forgot to state if some of the N is from prositutes ....
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/18 02:04 PM
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The count is actually a lot more concentrated though, 10 of 16 were in around the last two months before I committed. How did you have the time to manage 1 new girl a week during that period ?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/18 02:03 PM
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of which I spent about 6 years in relationships so that leaves 11 years of n count racking. If you electively choose to be in relationships though why wouldn't those count as N count rackers? I mean your still free to do what you want to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/18 01:44 AM
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right, i get your concern about that, but that's not the point I am trying to show here. I am trying to investigate more so the idea of consistency and how often when can get laid. From so far, even though some guys are posting some awfully large numbers, they are older and in an average it comes out to about 1 new girl a year.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/18 12:15 AM
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50 new women in a year is an average of one per new woman per week. 99% of musicians aren't getting laid that much lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/18 11:25 PM
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That doesnt reflect the difference in effort they put into getting new chicks. Don't you think it's valuable to know if one guy with an n-count of 1 for the past year is going out to clubs eveyweekend and actively approaching women or if he's just sitting on the couch next to his Beau and only has to say "he babe want sum fuk?" Yes but that's a different subject of effort vs reward rather than averaged behavior and frequency .
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/18 11:10 PM
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Are most of the people you sleep with also bisexual ?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/18 11:08 PM
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So to clarify you are a bisexual man?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/18 10:46 PM
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Or are guys just not trying after a certain point because they are married or committed? the vast majority of men are not married at 18 or 19, so this argument is moot. I am asking how many N in the past year they had, which is the same more or less as asking when they LTR'd
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/18 10:43 PM
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Ok but that's still a valid data point? Don't see your idea here. Basically it seems from current responses getting an average of one new girl a month over a longer period of time is not doable for virtually any statistical man.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/18 10:08 PM
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That comment is AFTER your comment about disliking people because they are white. YOU moved the goal posts FIRST. Does that make sense?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/18 09:48 PM
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even for a non-celeb/athlete type. With obese women sure. You wouldn't even have to be in the top 5% of guys if you lowered your standards enough. The amount of effort that would take though would simply not be worth it. It would basically take over your life and you'd have no time for anything else. But thats a real catch here. There are guys on RP saying they get a new girl a week that are HB 8 or HB 9 LOL.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/18 09:47 PM
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Finally, I didn't move the goalposts a single inch. I was directly quoting you when you said they were examples of groups "disliking people purely because they're white." Wrong. Heres my original comment.: Many liberal groups have a dislike for white people as a whole, do you believe this is racism? https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/8dg23u/cmv_using_the_angerphase_defense_is/dxn0ygt/ Then you said: I don't know a single group like what you described, but if they disliked white p…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/18 09:41 PM
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their age accounts for this. i am interested especially in the average N overtime
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/18 09:33 PM
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and has an N of around 50 in just one year. The purpose of this post is really trying to see if a guy like that exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/18 09:26 PM
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Why did your N-count suddenly increase in the past year? What changed?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/18 08:29 PM
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Her distrusting white people in general because she feels threatened by Trump supporters is not the same a a group that "dislikes people because they are white." If you dislike white people in general, that's a dislike of white people. I don't understand what you are seeing here. If someone said I dislike black people cause I don't like hiphop or hoodies that would obviously be a dislike of black people. The second article is an interview about suicide rates in America broken up by income, race,…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/18 08:27 PM
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There go those goal posts! Please read my original comment: https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/8dg23u/cmv_using_the_angerphase_defense_is/dxn0ygt/ No goal posts changed! Again: What does one author's opinion piece have to do with a mass liberal movement. It's THOUSANDS, its not one. How many articles do I need to show you? "Most" liberals absolutely do not hate white people. That's a ridiculous alt-right talking point. dislike != hate. Nice goal post move!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/18 07:48 PM
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TIL random authors from the Huffington post are "liberal groups." Are we in denial huffingtonpost is a liberal newspaper? HuffPost (formerly The Huffington Post and sometimes abbreviated HuffPo) is a liberal American news and opinion website and blog that has both localized and international editions. It was founded in 2005 by Andrew Breitbart, Arianna Huffington, Kenneth Lerer, and Jonah Peretti. The site offers news, satire, blogs, and original content and covers politics, business, entertainm…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/18 07:42 PM
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I don't know a single group like what you described, but if they disliked white people because they were white, Can My Children Be Friends With White People? What's going on with America's white people White people: Which side are you on? Yes, they are disliking people purely because they are white.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/18 07:35 PM
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What point did you think you were making? You seemed to believe this is not true: Many liberal groups have a dislike for white people as a whole, do you believe this is racism? You are in clear denial.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/18 07:31 PM
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It's the difference between "mostly" and "are." Even if it's harder for women to move a couch then men, there are women who can, But the world doesn't revolve around vast outliers. like, there is a professional female football player and coach, yet she is the only one. If such women exist, we shouldn't deny them an opportunity, but people are free to believe in general women won't be able to do such a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/18 07:30 PM
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Giving a shit about people with a different skin color thans yours =/= "dislike for white people as a whole." Ummmm: Can My Children Be Friends With White People? What's going on with America's white people White people: Which side are you on? There are 1000's of articles criticizing and citing a dislike for white people. Are you that ignorant?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/18 07:27 PM
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On the flipside, standards for women shouldn't be loosened just because of inherent statistical differences (looking at you, military fitness regulations), except maybe for positions where diversity is something you select for. What are your thoughts on coding programs only for women?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/18 06:36 PM
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Generally, a dislike for women as a whole. Many liberal groups have a dislike for white people as a whole, do you believe this is racism? Women tend to be weaker then men sure, but you shouldn't say that women can't do [blank] because they're weaker than men. Why not? I mean if we are talking about something like lifting heavy furniture or doing something dangerous. I mean this is the textbook definition of political correctness.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/18 06:35 PM
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It's very possible to be frustrated and angry without going misogynistic. What is an example of this?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/18 06:32 PM
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And for many reds it seems to be inconceivable that women's attraction works in a more subtle way. No way, that's the incels or the lookism incels. I just made a thread linking a FR about a typical 41 year old guy walking into a night club and having a hot 22 year old Colombian college girl "pick him up"
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/18 03:58 AM
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Thats not hypergamy. Thats just going out of your league. How on earth are these two things not the same?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/18 09:56 PM
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Yes, it's just not really going to work out. An incel who only looks at cute or pretty college girls is being hypergamous. He is shooting far above his actual range of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/18 08:04 PM
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No, people voluntarily show up at hospitals all the time. Do you think everyone in the emergency room was dragged their against their will? Emergency rooms deal with conditions that require prompt or immediate medical attention. To improve their health? Absolutely. I have the bills from the last few months to prove it. Just two weeks ago I had an outpatient operation. I was not at death's door, but I had an issue that needed tending. I showed up at 8 am and was home around 1 pm the same day. Whe…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/18 10:23 PM
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Women don't base their perception of average on statistics though.
/r/TheRedPill17/04/18 07:38 PM
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Is having that late twenties yoga girl really that bad? Not at all. And my question was about what counts as regular. One or two new ones per year seems like it should be enough. Yes but that's not what's suggested in the story i linked or similar one's of 40+ guys. They are claiming they are plating 3-5 women at a time and often drop one and pick up a new one.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/18 06:59 PM
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Well, some people are in denial https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/8cs1m4/cmv_the_overwhelming_majority_of_40_men_cannot/dxhoi1f/ thinks the top 1% of height is 6 feet lol. And the top 1% of income is $100k a year......
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/18 05:39 PM
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At least relatively hot, meaning significantly hotter than the guy. A 22 year old columbian college girl HB8 is astronomically hotter than some 41 year old who just got divorced. That's the issue here. A relatively hot woman for a 41 year old is more like a 27 or 28 year old who is a hipster or into yoga. Particularly, there is a small number of hot young things that will fuck triple digit numbers of guys. You can be one of those guys! It's not that hard. I'm friends with a few of them. You have…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/18 05:25 PM
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The best out of them is the top 1%. Not some guy living in New York making half a million a year, with a Calvin Klein modelling contract and 6'4 height. I just quoted you stats that show the top 1% of height is 6'4" and the top 1% of income is $500,000 a year........... https://www2.census.gov/library/publications/2010/compendia/statab/130ed/tables/11s0205.pdf https://www.investopedia.com/news/how-much-income-puts-you-top-1-5-10/ How much more in denial can you be? Just look around you ffs. Pick…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/18 04:33 PM
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