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When I interviewed for my job I had to put how many women I slept with on my CV, including contact details of the women so that they could do a background check to see if I was truthful. Man I was grilled in that interview about my sexual history. They especially cared about when I lost my virginity and if whilst a teenager I had loads of girlfriends and lots of sex. Now that I am married with Children, they constantly check if I am in a dead bedroom relationship... Because my sex life is essent…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 10:21 AM
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My wife's family is RICH and higher status than me or mine so that doesn't really work.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 12:19 PM
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You'd best tell my wife and exes that they were wrong to date me, because I am a fat man.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 09:43 AM
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Did I say it doesn't matter? Or that it doesn't matter to some as it matters to others?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 12:29 PM
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The types of men who would be happy with a "relationship" with a sex toy that can clean are the types of men who are not interested in a relationship. The hypothetical describes an "ideal" woman as basically a slave. Moreover it assumes that what most men want in a partner is a slave. A "women" they buy at market, thus own and is without autonomy and so cannot refuse "sex" and will "live" a life of complete servitude. To find this sexually appealing basically means sex to you is masturbating int…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 10:20 AM
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Women are individuals they do not all have the same preferences. That some women prefer taller men is not the same as ALL women preferring taller men. Nor does finding tall a visually attractive feature mean that women would only date a tall man, or leave their SO for another dude just because he is tall versus their short partner. There is a preference in humans (whose primary sense is eyesight) for more attractive people over less attractive people. Who doesn't know that? It is part of the def…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 09:30 AM
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The only obsession I have seen over the height of men and how it influences their attractiveness comes from, to be frank, men. I have seen long posts, short posts and everything in between discussing this particular vector of attractiveness and its "essential" nature for women to see a man as attractive... This post being another example of a man talking about the height of men and women. It is starting to smell a little bit like insecurity? Here is an anecdote... From my varsity days (when I wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 08:09 AM
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1) I am faithful because that is who I am. 2) I am monogamous because that is who I am, I have no interest in "playing the field" (or however you refer to it). 3) What "reduces the options" is the fact that I am discerning and am attracted to the people I am attracted to, the others need not apply. 4) If a woman doesn't want me, as I am, then we will not be together... I have zero interest in acting as a fool or being someone other than who I am. Sure my adherence to being authentically myself i…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 08:32 AM
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Why would I bet l when studies on the UBI and the behaviour of people have been conducted? With a UBI (for example) you could instead do rewarding work... Rather than work you hate because you need the money.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 03:02 PM
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Don't assign your lack of ambition to everyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 09:53 AM
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Why do you need to make a general position out of your personal experiences? I am happily married, and MUCH happier in that relationship than when I was single... Even so I don't see the need to construct an argument that "men are happier married". Do you need "bros" to agree with your proposition to feel validated? No doubt on this forum you will have a brigade of bros going "hell yeah" and "preach" or what not. Does that make you feel more secure in your choices? I am happier in a relationship…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 08:52 AM
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Wherein education is taken as being engaged in the task of constantly improving your knowledge of the world and yourself; i.e. being super curious to know more. I would say it is a 5. I don't see this as necessarily requiring a degree or anything like that. But I am into philosophy (I did a post grad in philosophy) and if you are not then I will annoy you because I will debate you on all your opinions and test my opinions against yours and yours against mine - to see if we can find common ground…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/23 04:53 AM
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Don't worry as sickened as you are by my beliefs, I am just as sickened by the "teachings" in the Bible. I grew up Christian, then I read the Bible and was disgusted from almost beginning to end. The few places and things that I agreed with felt to me little more than the old saying: a broken clock is right twice a day... Although given how much is in the Bible it was actually less often than that. I then looked into philosophy and theology reading many of "the great" Christian ethicists and the…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 04:14 PM
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Of course I decide what is of weak character? When you (or anyone) makes a judgement on something or someone are you (or they) not making a decision? Even if your judgement aligns with someone else's, you are deciding (for whatever reason) to take their judgement as being a good one. Now we can disagree with another's judgement, and you can question their reasons for their assessment. Perhaps argue the merits of the judgement and shift each other's perspectives. But even if I changed your perspe…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 11:28 AM
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Weak and insecure men are obsessed with controlling a woman. They hate it when women sleep around because they are scared they will not measure up to other men. They want women pregnant because being pregnant and then having a small child makes the woman vulnerable for a time, and she will be less willing to ditch him and move on... Because being heavily pregnant or holding an infant makes that structurally difficult to do so. If a woman has no life experience, as with no sexual experience she w…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 10:25 AM
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How would you be ensuring your values are being passed on... Do you actually have the same values as your grandparents or great grandparents? Also what is so great about "gender norms"? Why should I, or anyone, have to limit myself based on your idea of what I should be based on being born with biological male or female sex characteristics. Part of being Human is to rise above our mere biological limitations. We cannot fly, we don't have wings or hollow bones... Does that mean we should not have…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 09:02 AM
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Evolution will not "take care of them" because the highly developed neo-cortex which is prevalent within all functional humans precisely evolved to suppress instincts (i.e. the lizard brain) thus any female homo sapiens sapiens has the capacity to choose not to have children, for any reason (good or bad). All that we have built is a result of the neo-cortex. The only way for evolution to "take care of this" is for humans to become to stupid to just maintain the world we have, nevermind continue …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 04:00 AM
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Who are you to dictate to I prefer? Your preferences are not nearly indicative of what "all" men want. I loathe traditional women they are almost always religious which is gross. If I cannot talk philosophy and things that interest me with a woman (or man) why would I spend any time with her (or anyone)? Philosophy is the difference between humans and homo sapiens sapiens... One is a being with agency and has the ability to be creative and interesting, the other is an ape. A good digger and a tr…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 07:48 PM
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If you insist that all relationships are transactional then you are defining yourself out of ever finding love.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 05:48 PM
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Wear what you want to wear. If you want to get surgery to make yourself taller, which would be an extreme cosmetic procedure, then get it. Your body is yours, how you adorn it is 100% your choice. If wearing lifts works for you, then do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 03:12 AM
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In this hypothetical I would be forgiving. Although to be honest I would have moved on from this scenario long before they came seeking forgiveness. I don't hold onto grudges, anger, or hatred I don't like how those emotions make me feel. The sensation is unpleasant to me, it turns my thoughts to dark ends and in them I have resentful little thoughts of petty revenge and spite. If someone is causing such thoughts in me I prefer to wash my hands of them and give them not a second thought. They do…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 07:31 AM
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Wherein no one is "keeping score" I don't see how interactions can be seen as transactional. If I do something for you without any expectation, requirement or need of anything in return to say that my action is transactional simply because you reciprocate seems to make transactional a trivial term. On this view any and all human interaction is transactional, which means we should stop using the term human interaction and replace it with human transaction? You and I are now having a transaction? …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 07:37 PM
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What I have and what I have "achieved" in my relationship is nothing but a result of being who I am. I accept the world as it is without fear or reservations and allow none of that to dictate to me how I should live, love or hope... In love I risk everything and trust. If it burns me, as it did (my wife isn't my first partner) then so be it... Then I will do the same with another person. I mean obviously you get a prenup. But I tell that to anyone getting married... man or woman. Be open and vul…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 04:53 PM
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How small a frame indeed, small enough to chart my own course as opposed to following along with the dictates of a herd capable of little more than braying "nay I say" accomplishing the philosophy of a donkey.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 04:18 PM
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I wish you the same, but you will inevitably hamstring yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 03:34 PM
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Don't dictate to me why I got married. I am not a member of your small minded herd.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 03:28 PM
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Where did I say we have no obligations in our marriage? Sex merely is not one of them. That isn't a chore it is a joy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 03:06 PM
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Except for that emotion is all sourced in the lower brain? The neocortex evolved to regulate emotion not generate it. Saying "I just wanna get down" is a desire which is an emotion.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 03:01 PM
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That they (or you) may wish to go out with a more athletic and less traditionally "feminine" woman. I mean what else could it mean? Stop stressing about what people on the internet might say or think about it. You do you, anything else is the path leading to regret and resentment.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 02:01 PM
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Sex isn't a transaction, it is a mutual act it isn't about me or her... It is about us being together enjoying each other. This is true of the relationship in general, it isn't (or shouldn't be transactional)... I am not doing nice things for my wife because I want to have sex, I am doing them because I love her. We have sex within that relationship for that reason: love. Sex without that context is mechanically possible, but it just feels mechanical. Within the context of mutual affection it is…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 11:07 AM
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My doctor performed one without much question, after he learnt that I had two kids. But from conversation with him he would not have done it if I wasn't a father already. He had real ethical concerns about doing the procedure for someone without kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 06:41 AM
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I have never given this two seconds of thought, and I am not about to start now. I see no utility or benefit in it for me, or anyone else. All you can do is be the best you possible and take opportunities when they arise. Neither I nor anyone cares what you think you deserve.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 06:56 PM
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But how can you know an individual's preference before the fact? Anything said would be well for some woman it is X for others it is Y. Human beings don't have a single shared preference common to all.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 06:11 PM
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A person has to decide for themselves what level of relationship they are willing or able to maintain with a person post break-up. People are individuals and the reasons for breaking up and quality of the relationship itself can vary... You can stay friends, you can be friendly, you can make a clean break. The only criteria I would suggest in your decision making is, make the choice that will not bring with it a lingering resentment... You don't need that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 07:03 AM
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When I was at university and watched all the players (Chad wasn't a term back then) running after women and getting their "numbers up" and what not... I frankly never understood what the appeal even was/is? I have had two gfs in my life, and my second is my SO and we are 12 years into our ltr with 2 kids. Both my gfs have had way more sexual partners than me... And, frankly, I don't give a shit; nor has any of the "new" red pill or black pill stuff offered my even the slightest pause that I shou…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 09:43 AM
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No insecurity. If a women hasn't slept with a friend, after a certain point, she is unlikely to ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/21 03:57 AM
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It is perfectly normal to have male and female friendships, but friendships do also end. They end all the time and for all sorts of reasons. But in the context of a friendship between and man and woman a common reason for it to end is sexual jealousy and insecurity coming from the new partner. Which makes a certain amount of sense as men are aware that they (and other men) would often, not always but often enough, all too happily get into a FWB relationship with a female friend. I have discussed…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/21 09:00 AM
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Yes biology has within it the nuance and complexity to describe how a digestive (or any other) system works whilst not referring to how/why it evolved. The pertinent question in evolutionary biology is why a biological function/mechanism exists at all, not merely how it does what it does. In biology when you examine why something exists you are not concerned only with how it works. The question is why hunger exists... The mechanism of hunger exists because of the biological need to eat and seek …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/21 07:29 PM
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Cars are designed and built intelligently they have NO BEARING on a discussion involving blind chemical processes; like evolution via natural selection. So all of you analogies that involve an intelligent designer (a human engineer) are IRRELEVANT. And the fact that you refer to them at all is further evidence of your lack of awareness of how evolution works. So actually yes the need for food is the driving mechanism for the evolution of a mechanism that registers this need (i.e. hunger) within …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/21 05:53 PM
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Yes it is bloody well what "creates" the hunger. The hunger evolves because of the need for food.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/21 04:41 PM
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The need for food creates an evolutionary pressure for an organism to recognise (i.e. sense) when it needs food. The very existence of the mechanism of hunger is a direct evolutionary result of the need for food. If an organism doesn't need food it will not evolve (slowly develop through accumulated small changes over many generations) any mechanisms to register that it needs food. That is literally how evolution by natural selection works? Rain creates the need for umbrellas... As the need for …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/21 11:44 AM
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What nonsense are you going on about? The sensation of hunger IS created by the specific need for food? Because without it we would not experience the desire to eat and then we would die. The reason why the mechanism and sensation of hunger evolved is that hunger drives organisms to seek out food which means orgamisms live longer and reproduce more. Learn some biology I am done with this complete lack of awareness of how evolution as a force operates.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/21 06:23 AM
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What creates it IS the need for reproduction. The need to replicate is deeply biological it is axoimatic it is the chemistry of life itself. The foundation of evolution is replication which in multicelluar organism is achieved through sexual reproduction. So in a sense your question misses the point. Reproduction itself IS the force (like gravity) of evolution. Not a problem that needs solving.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/21 04:33 AM
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What creates male sex drive? Really isn't it obvious? We are talking about biology and evolution here... You think the human male has some heroic thing in the existence of "our" sex drive? Jesus man?! What creates our sex drive (and that of women's) IS the biological and evolutionary need to reproduce in order to avoid fucking existinction. There are 7+ billion humans do you really not see in that goddamn number that NEED to fucking reproduce might not be a bloody factor here?!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/21 03:08 AM
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I literally don't understand what you are not getting here? It is pretty obvious... Baboons will have lots and lots of sex when the female is fertile and hardly any sex at any other point. Now when is a human female fertile? Every single month of the year, which means it is ALWAYS mating season. But that three or so days of the month when the woman is actually fertile we cannot see. Which means humans will continuously have sex because it is the only way to "know" (this is all unconscious biolog…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/21 10:21 PM
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You can google concealed ovulation (I did to check) a bunch of things came up. Actual scientific papers are behind paywalls. But look at a baboon (a primate relative of ours): When she is fertile her bottom literally changes colour and at that point the male will have sex. But when the baboon is not fertile sex is a waste lf energy and effort and the male has no (intense) desire to have sex. So the male baboon's sex drive is "triggered" by the colour change (and ovulation) in the female. When fe…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/21 09:36 AM
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Can you read? Male's sex drive is also not "possessive" it just is a response to a bunch of external factors. The external factor being that human females are "on heat" year round and therefore the sex drive does not switch off. Arguably it is ONLY females that are possessive of a sex drive because ovulation is internal to their bodies and the male sex drive is merely a response to this ovulation. Sex merely and only exists due to the biological phenomenon of reproduction. Everything about it (i…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/21 07:23 AM
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What is incoherent is that you think women are not possessed of a "motivating physiological condition" to have sex. That this "motivating condition" is targetted towards a specific man (or sub-set of men) is irrelevant. They have the motivation in that instance to have sex, ergo they have a sex drive. Why in human males there is a year round "motivating condition" to have sex is because human females are fertile every month and they have no physical displays of ovulation (like a bright red botto…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/21 06:23 AM
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Whatever you are talking about is not how sex drive is spoken about in biology, psychology or philosophy, and it is basically incorherent. So I will just stick with the biological and scientific definition. I have no interest in your anti-feminist political ideologies.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/21 05:23 AM
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As I said like or dislike (or disgust) for sex is irrelevant. That she is only desiring a specific man is irrelevant. All and only what is required to have a sex drive is that a women desire to have sex. That is ALL. Everything else is IRRELEVANT. If she desires to have sex only once in her entire life then you have described to me her Sex drive in saying that. If she only wants to have sex because of a man, in this very statement you are describing her sex drive to me. It doesn't matter that "o…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/21 03:11 AM
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Yes liking sex is not a sex drive. The desire to have sex is the sex drive. If you get horny (the desire to have sex) then you have a sex drive. Because the desire to have sex (even infrequently) is a sex drive. The frequency of the desire is utterly without relevance, ALL and ONLY what matters is the desire. Also if that the desire is targeted towards only a specific individual (and not "general"). That still is utterly without relevance, ALL and ONLY what matters is the existence of a desire t…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/21 02:32 PM
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Look dumb dumb, let me say it simple like, because it looks like dumb dumb cannot deal with complexity. A Sex drive (or libido) is the desire to have sex. This drive is not the same between individuals.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/21 01:23 PM
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Sex drive (libido) can vary in intensity between individuals and at times within individuals (do you have to capacity for simple comprehension or must you go back to elementary school). The size of a thing does not change what you are measuring. This you should have learnt in kindergarten maths? 100 kg of X vs 1 kg of X, it is still X being measured. The size and variations within sex drive do not change that it is sex drive being measured? You are capable of thought, am I talking to a bot? You …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/21 12:42 PM
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First I know more biology than you, as is evidence by the utter bs nonsene you expound. I don't think you've read an biology paper published in a scientific journal... Ever. Yes I have and many. I wrote a thesis on the evolution of social strategies. The text book biological definition of sex drive IS (literally IS): the desire (want/need) for sexual activity. This is called the libido. Libido varies greatly in intensity between individuals and in time within individuals. So if your libido was z…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/21 12:15 PM
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Horniness is the desire to have sex. A sex drive is the desire to have sex. That is ALL a sex drive is. If you get horny and have the desire to have sex then you have a sex drive. The end.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/21 11:07 AM
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Guess I don't have a sex drive then. The only time I want to have sex is when I am horny. So I don't have a sex drive. Are you hearing yourself. It is the BIGGEST load of bs I have ever heard.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/21 10:49 AM
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There are no such thing as sexual needs only sexual desires. If a person is starving I understand stealing food, without food you die. Food is a need. If a person isn't having sex, "wanting it" isn't like hunger as hunger will eventually kill you. Being celibate is not a terminal condition... and no amount of bs spin is going to make it one. Not getting any and raping someone because of it is NOT justifiable in the way that stealing food not to starve might be. The premise here is bullshit. I wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/21 06:53 AM
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Sex isn't a need in any way, shape or form. A need is something that if you don't have you will die. Shelter is a need: In the extremes of heat or cold on our planet without it you die. Sex is not a need: If you never have sex you will not die as a result. You might desire to have sex, but that makes it a want. Thus even from a lefty perspective wherein we ought ensure people get their needs met, as sex is NOT a need we don't have to do anything about it. The premise of this is silly and you can…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/21 06:29 AM
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If sex is inherently harmful... STOP Sex is not inherently harmful, therefore any issue raised based on that if is mute. The question should read: If casual sex is inherently harmful for women, why continue to do it? Although again I don't see why we should even grant that even casual sex is inherently harmful. So women continue to engage in casual sex precisely because it is not inherently harmful. Risk and harm are not the same thing. So even if casual sex was risky that added element still wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/21 08:05 AM
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The ONLY reason some weak men complain about women with high n-counts and slut shame is because they worry that the woman has probably been with a man and they know they cannot measure up. If a woman hasn't been with anyone then they can be shit in bed and hope their partner doesn't figure out that with a man she'd be having multiple orgasms as opposed to none. These are the men would given half an opportunity start practices like female circumcision... If a woman cannot have an orgasm then it c…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/21 06:15 AM
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Who doesn't know that looks, confidence and status aren't important in the dating game? I mean if you watched a few David Attenborough documentaries in between binging on Hallmark and Disney you'd know that. My problem with the red pill isn't that "revelation" (to only those not paying attention) it is that trp is blatantly sexist and talks about human beings as plates (or the like) which clearly reduces the person to the status of an object. They will say it is only a "metaphor" ignoring (or ju…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 08:59 AM
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Men expect nothing of the sort. A man attracts a women and she wants to be with him. It is mutual. Sniffling boys who think being "nice" is an act you put on to get a gf believe they are "owed" something for putting on a transparently poor performace.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 06:54 AM
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It means sunshine, in the past we didn't live "shorter" lives except for more of us dying as children. So the "shorter" in your claim of our lives being shorter is dubious. And then with our lives being "simpler" well loving human parents were watching half of their children dying before reaching adulthood. So your nostalgia for the past as "better" is la la land delusional nonsense. Even in Africa (my neck of the woods) childhood mortality has dropped significantly and is fast approaching first…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/21 08:41 PM
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Look oh person who lives in the la la land of delusion and fairytales... The single biggest reason why the average age of humans has increased as significantly as it has over the last 100 years is not so much that we are living MUCH longer lives than our ancestors. It is because, well, medicine and vaccines mean that upto 50% of us are not dying before we hit adulthood. But once a human made it to adulthood they didn't drop dead at 39 or any other nonsense. The low average age was because of mas…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/21 08:09 PM
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When you next injure yourself and need medical treatment, instead clean the wound with urine and moss... maybe some scavenged honey (nothing bought from a shop)... If you get an infection shrug your shoulders and hope it doesn't kill you... Are we "truly better off..." Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/21 07:18 PM
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We are capable of more than just being that, or are you truly unable to see that we are no longer running around with sticks and stones living by hunting and gathering... We have put people into space, and our dreams are grander even than those of gods and involve invading the celestial realms (the stars and such) itself. Do not associate your smallness with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/21 05:17 PM
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If a man was preening before me because he thought his wife was hotter than mine... I might pity his insecurity, if I even noticed. How pathetic are you... to care of such trivial matters? If the highest goal you have for yourself is to be nothing more than a speaking chimpanzee... Well you're not going to get more than derision from me.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/21 03:36 PM
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There is no such thing in humans, or wolves. The idea of Alpha and Beta came from studying wolves. David Mech, the person who did the initial study and hypothesis later rejected the idea he came up with. Basically he was witnessing not an "alpha" but instead a the top male and female pack members where almost always the parents of the pack. The other wolves were basically just listening to mommy and daddy. Of course RP doesn't know this because it doesn't do science or any actual thinking, it ju…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/21 11:15 AM
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The way that far too many set up distinction bewteen being confident and being caring/nice/nurturing. Women don't like "nice guys" they like confident men. The opposite of confidence is not for example nurturing. The opposite of strength is not for example kindness. I am confident and I am strong (physically and emotionally)... I am also nurturing, caring and kind. Being nurturing, caring and kind has not hurt me in my life. Maybe one or two sob stories convincing me to give a stranger a gift of…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/21 06:52 AM
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RP on human mating habits hasn't been a "revelation" to human society, well ever, it is at best a rather cynical, sickly and weak re-expression of the ideals early romantic poets (i.e. Lord Byron and the like). In this movement these poets, all bold and confident men, told poetic stories about how they made women "all a quivver" with their brash attitudes and aloofness. The most impressive thing out of their movement was Mary Shelly' Frankenstein... In which the character of Frankenstein was a d…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/21 07:47 AM
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The vast majority of humans will be hooking up, getting together and having kids without paying much attention to "blue pill" or "red pill" nonsense. Following their "biological" desires as they manifest, without much interest or concern for politics, social criticism, or the ancedotes of would be pop philosophers. Some will be content in this, others less so, some not at all... As it has been for eons. Those in the "pill movements" forget how monumentally unimportant their views actually are to…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 04:00 AM
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When I was at university the guys who got the most girls had three things in common with each other: Confidence, good grooming habits and they were studying for a university degree. Otherwise they were all very different: Some where confident in a soft spoken way and would get girls at the campus coffee shop being sweet and interesting. Some played a numbers game and didn't care about getting rejected, they would move on fast. Some were cool and aloof, and yes some where dickish. But they all gr…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/21 05:50 PM
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There over seven billion people on this planet. Think about the size of that number; and know that it happens all the time. With a creature as complex as a human beings, and given how many of us there are, there will be "numerous" exceptions to every rule. Being ugly alone is not going to prevent you finding a decent partner, it will put you at a disadvantage on one aspect by which we measure each other. We humans are capable of being impressive in ways other than being able to flaunt good looks…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/21 08:18 PM
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Okay girlfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 10:40 PM
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There are two distinct notions of validity in play within a public forum: 1) Is related to you as a person. Your opinions are valid in so far as they are an authentic expression of your ideas/ideals. This is born in your experience of the life you lived. 2) Is born in the idea/ideal itself. It is a philosophical question and asks more of us than to just accept the conclusions we've arrived at by experience. We question those conclusions in discussion/debate with others and test if they can stand…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 10:13 PM
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This isn't your safe space sunshine this a public space wherein people with radically different views discuss what are potentially mutually exclusive ideas and ideals. If you want your opinions to be automatically validated then go hang out in whatever circle jerk bubble you crawled from. You want to claim a thing as fact or that it should be accepted beyond the confines of your bubble then you are going to have to do more than come crying to me that "our opinions are valid". It is both pathetic…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 09:00 PM
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Why not, instead of telling some "just-so" fictions, go and read some actual anthropology and/or primatology? I mean human and primate behaviour has actually been carefully studied now for sometime, but... I suppose that actually doing some work or having a serious viewpoint is "boring" when one can tell themselves a story to confirm their own petty bias. Guess what we find in human societies living a stone-age hunter gatherer lifestyle... No wait you don't have to guess you can actually go and …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 02:43 PM
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Your story is back to front: Truly rich men often get prenuptial contracts, they know many women are after them not for love but for the money. So they have to be cautious because them woman might not love them and so will run off with someone they actually do have genuine feelings for after trying to fleece them. You have a better chance at a woman having genuine feelings for you if she was with you through hardship as opposed to being a "fair weather friend"... With you only while things are g…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 12:16 PM
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Who have this weird view of history in which people were "abstaining". I mean did you even read your Shakespeare? Romeo and Juliet. First night: Meet at party. Second night: having sex. Sure they got "married in between" but this was not a "great love story" it was a story about horny teenagers. As is witnessed by Romeo whining about Rosaline his "great love" then seeing Juliet and in lust forgetting Rosaline even existed. Also the poets of old were going on about sex and chasing women about as …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 05:46 AM
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Okay grandmother.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 04:41 PM
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Cite your science, if it is "so obvious".
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 04:33 PM
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No thought, no argument. Just confirmation bais. Boring.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 04:30 PM
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10% is a made up number. I see no reason to accept it. And when you look at outliers like trans, homosexuals, psychopaths, etc they usually fall within 1-5% of a given population. As such I will be sticking with the 1-5% range in this example. Unless you offer actual science from a journal doing peer reviewed study. I see no evidence this isn't an outlier phenomenon.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 04:23 PM
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Cite your source. I will accept peer reviewed science from journals of human behavior, or I have little interest in your fictions.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 04:18 PM
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Yes 1% is a lot. It leads to millions of examples give a large population. But it doesn't say anything about women "in general". It would be a not insignificant minority, but a minority case nevertheless. But when it comes to humans and weirdness we should always remember there are over 7 billion of us. And therefore there are lots of opportunity for weirdness.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 04:14 PM
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Half of the world's population is made up of women. That is 3.5+ billion people... If 1% of women where attracted to these sorts of dangerous men, that would be 35 000 000+ women and over 3 million such women would live in the USA alone. So that millions of women are "throwing themselves" at ultra dangerous men doesn't necessarily say anything about what women in general are attracted to. Whilst these numbers like "millions" are "big" as a percentage of the population of women they really are no…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 03:54 PM
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I mean I am not sure where you draw this nonsense from. But at university educated men and women are hooking up very frequently and many of them go onto happy ltr's and whatnot. Sure some educated women don't find someone and they might whine about it... but that is hardly exhaustive of educated women and/or men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 09:18 AM
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You would have to ask those who whine about it. Edit: although your "quota hire" is very whiny so maybe you could offer some insight.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 08:58 AM
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Why are guys focusing on this? Simple: These are weak insecure men whose only path to feeling worthwhile is through sexism. Thus a woman who is more educated, smarter and more powerful than they will ever be threatens their pathetic self-image as a "man". If a woman wants a career it isn't going to bring down Western Civilization or any other such nonsense, it just makes insecure men whine.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 08:50 AM
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I don't communicate with "idealised" representations of women. The Romantic poets of the 1800s did that in their peotry. That is not my view or reading of feminist philosophy. I treat a woman as a human being. With her own flaws, goals, and all that. The only ideal I look at her with is the one I look at all humans with. That we are all worthy of the inalienable rights that we gave (and invented for) ourselves in the enlightenment. And in this we are all worthy of a second and perhaps even third…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/21 04:56 PM
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I fear the potential for violence within me as I do within all of us. As Jordan Perterson asks; had you grown up in Germany during the early twentieth century do you think you would have supported the Nazi's or not? The point being that all too many "normal" people supported the Nazi's and so if you were in that situation you have no justification in believing you would be any better. So I have no illusions about myself and merely acknowledge that who and what I have become is built upon a blood…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/21 04:31 PM
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I have found no more hate or spite among the humans populating feminism than any other group of humans. In RP I see far more hate. Hate directed at half of the human species. At my sister merely because she is a woman. Why would I trust a person who would treat members of my family as plates to spin and as servants not equals?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/21 01:57 PM
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Maybe I do live in South Africa, but I cannot say I disagree with aspects of feminist philosophy, as I encountered it doing philosophy at university... Wherein women should be treated as citizens and have the rights of citizenship. As well as be given the genuinely fair opportunity to follow a path of their choice, even if that goes against their "brain/biology" as you see it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/21 11:43 AM
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Would this qualify as a circle jerk thread? I don't see it that way?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/21 10:51 AM
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First off I don't think anyone should get a pass because they have a pussy. And I certainly don't think women are angelic or some other nonsense. I am well aware that women are as capable of being terrible as anyone else. I see nothing in a my self-reflection that justifies that I think women are special snowflakes that bring only beauty to the world... Or whatever strawman nonsense is going through your head about my thinking. I also think if I (or you) was born in Ancient Rome I (or you) would…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/21 10:49 AM
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When New Zealand allowed women to vote. You could have said the exact same thing that it was "notable for its rarity". Because it was the first... will it be the last or only? The fact is that when New Zealand did it the shift was already underway in every major country. So it is with Finland, the trend is already underway as is shown in the enrollment data. I have no idea where you are getting this "you go girl" b.s? Oh well...
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/21 10:39 AM
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There is already a country in Europe (Finland) which has more practicing women doctors than men? In the UK the number of women medical students is 59% and in the USA it has recently (2019) hit 50% and I have seen NO evidence that these women are only chasing "a piece of paper" and not a career. Where do you draw that from... have you done a survey, asked anyone, or read a study. Or are you just making shit up? Your post here was pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/21 10:25 AM
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I hear a lot of concern about being "taken advantage of"? I am 43, so I have been taken advantage a couple of times (I learnt from this) whilst others have tried and failed on a few more occasions (but I had learnt my lesson by then)... But again I haven't found women to be worse than men, in the sense that they are more willing to try and take advantage of me. Their approach might be different but their goal is the same. When I was young a girl lead me round the garden path and I chased after h…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/21 10:01 AM
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I don't know what mainstream you have been watching but I have never seen or heard anyone holding to the rather silly belief that "women can do no wrong"? I mean I studied some feminist philosophy whilst doing my philosophy post-grad and not even they thought anything as silly as "women can do no wrong". And some (not all) feminist thinkers have had very silly ideas, but none that silly.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/21 09:44 AM
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The idea that woman are "soft and perfect" isn't a feminist idea at all though? It comes from the Romantic period in literature and was employed by poets and writers (usually men) who where trying to get between the legs of "chaste" women in the 1800's. Are you even aware that history exists?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/21 09:35 AM
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Contempt? Not even a little. Nietzsche was a great thinker possessed by the god Dionysus himself. But I am not him I am me. Who I can become must start with that and where I am now.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/21 09:07 AM
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I state merely what I have come to believe drawn from life as I have lived it. I am active on AskFeminists (I post as a feminist (because I am one)) but I do not know much of those other spaces? Also being "clever" IS the strength of human beings? We didn't flap our arms with muscle to get up into the sky. We used our intelligence to invent. If what you say is true then the strongest (muscle wise) humans are the dumbest of us. And therefore given that human strength is in our intelligence those …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/21 08:52 AM
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You sound small to me. So concerned with, and resentful of, how someone might take advantage of you that you construct your entire way of being around it. I worry for you, that you live a life primarily of reaction, reaction to some or other percieved slight against your person. It is not about you, but what "you get in return" from others. You in is attitude define yourself by what you recieve from others, you make yourself a slave to the "rewards" others give. I instead walk a path which is fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/21 08:42 AM
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Underrepresentation in STEM is due to a complex series of historical factors (some of which extend even into our prehistory). It is not because boys are mean, that would be dumb. Besides which in Medical and Biological Sciences the split is more even... and in the Medical Sciences (in some first world countries) women are signing up in larger numbers than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/21 08:29 AM
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Who decides? At the end of the day you do/must... Who else could. But whilst the final decision is yours, you do not need to walk a lonely path. There are others around, even your reference to Nietzsche is evidence of that. Build the bridge, but you can get help in its construction and you need not cross it alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/21 08:19 AM
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To act only in accordance with how things are can offer you a path to strength. But that strength will always be limited to, at most, that of the lion. A noble beast to be sure... But ultimately the lion is nothing but potential prey (or a thing to be looked at on a safari) by a human; to be human who is to live a life of becoming. A life determined by striving for an ideal, to be more than just another beast driven by a base biology. It is in the fact that we humans can imagine what should be b…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/21 08:04 AM
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I have read all of Nietzsche's works (I did my post-grad in philosophy and focussed on Nietzsche)? I never said I was virtuous, I said with openness what I believe? You don't know me and this is the internet so I accept their is reason one might assume I act in bad faith or out of resentment. All I can say is: I do not. If you accept that or not, makes little difference to me (as a student of Nietzsche I am sure you understand).
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/21 07:51 AM
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Negotiates: As in "I will do X for you if you have sex with me?" Wouldn't that make a man a John and the woman a prostitute?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/21 07:39 AM
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You cannot have equality of outcome, you can only have equality of opportunity. This is because we are not the same and so even with equal access to available societal resources we wouldn't all use them the same, so outcomes will be different between individuals.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/21 07:35 AM
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The only people who are concerned by about a person having some (like sending a happy birthday/new year) contact with an ex are extremely insecure in themselves. Those types will have a long list of ad-hoc justifications and rationalisations... Saying it is disrespectful, or a sign the person isn't over their ex, or whatever other blah, blah nonsense. That is NOTHING but a mask for their insecurity. Insecurity is unattractive and weak. It is a flag the person you are dating might not be worthwhi…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/21 06:07 AM
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How many women would have to be bad for me to write them off as a group? That is easy: ALL (every single last one) 3.8 (give or take) billion. Because an individual is not guilty of the sins of another, no matter how many of those others is guilty that one (if it is only one) is not guilty. Same goes for any group I am not a supporter of identity politics, the individual and their actions are what determines their sinfulness or not, never the actions of another or the group the individual may be…
/r/MGTOW206/09/20 05:21 AM
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I don't know your situation so you are a better judge than I. But a women being friendly doesn't mean she is interested in you sexually, or you should get into a relationship with her. I understand your confusion, I have had similar confusions in my life. By all means enjoy the attention for what it is... but don't assume that anything will or should come from if. And if it is a co-worker be super cautious. The last thing you need is a soap opera style melodrama in your work life.
/r/MGTOW202/09/20 07:18 AM
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Sounds like an argument to reform the system and or leave. Obviously an unfair social welfare system is by definition unfair. But I don't see what the system is rigged in a myriad of ways has to do with women "generally". Not anymore so than is true of men "generally". You just got caught in way your did... But it could've happened in any number of ways, or not happen at all, and life is unforgiving. Besides: The design and maintenance of the system isn't the sole responsibility of women... sure…
/r/MGTOW201/09/20 10:18 PM
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I DON'T SAY IT RARE! I am saying that unfortunately human beings can be shitty! And that given a population of literally billions of humans OBVIOUSLY there will be, in a strict numerical sense, a profligate number of stories involving some arsehole fucking over some undeserving human being. I really wish human beings didn't do such things to each other. Your view is too fucking narrow by half the goddamn population on an individual having the potential to fuck you over. Sure women in the context…
/r/MGTOW201/09/20 10:03 PM
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Okay fair enough.
/r/MGTOW201/09/20 01:49 PM
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My post is not to force people into a relationship. I am questioning your positioning of women within that desire. You should not be pressured into a relationship ever! But that is separate from saying some variation of all women are X.
/r/MGTOW201/09/20 01:47 PM
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A bachelor tax I have to say feels like a paranoia... although if it happened I would remember this post.
/r/MGTOW201/09/20 01:45 PM
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Millions of men having bad experiences with women is a large number. But given that seven and half+ billion humans are all the result of men and women having sex... It is about what anyone thinking for half a second would expect. It is not that I don't care that these men have been shafted (or worse) by a woman, but I don't see any reason to paint half of the human population as being anything other than a normal human because of it. You seem perfectly happy to discount my mostly positive experi…
/r/MGTOW201/09/20 12:41 PM
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Well hopefully you took my words when I referred to humans as walking talking chimps as an indication I am not a creationist. When I was at university here in South Africa creationists did the same thing... hold a debate about creationism, they brought the example of a banana as an object clearly "intelligently" designed. Which was wonderfully ironic considering that modern and wild bananas are nothing alike due to the selective pressure we have placed on them as farmers. It was also strange giv…
/r/MGTOW201/09/20 11:41 AM
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True. What I hope to achieve? To be honest I am not entirely sure, as I was writing the words just kind of felt right... Sorry if they sort of wondered off track, sometimes I go off on tangents. My friends tease me about it.
/r/MGTOW201/09/20 11:03 AM
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The sucker believes in Jesus without, as Thomas did, putting his hands in the wounds and seeing with his own eyes that Jesus returned from the dead for our salvation... Faith makes suckers of all those who walk its path. For faith is the only guarantee I have that the blessings I feel now in my relationship will still be present in a decade. Faith is all we have when it comes to being around each other... for which human might be carrying a knife with intent to do you in over some scrap you know…
/r/MGTOW201/09/20 10:57 AM
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Walking away, truly... is I agree valid. If that is what you are doing. Monks and Nuns have taken up monastic life for eons. There was a time in my life wherein I contemplated just such a path for myself. Except I concluded that it is not accepting who and what I am, it is a denial of everything that it is to be human. To be human is to take on the risks and responsibilities of others. It is to accept the filth and work through it to find the pearl... But it is not finding that is worthy of prai…
/r/MGTOW201/09/20 10:37 AM
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My wife only out spends me because she does the shopping for the kids. I buy way more toys for myself than she does herself. It seems to me if you have children obviously you're spending more. Or are you saying your claim is regardless of the fact of children women out spend men?
/r/MGTOW201/09/20 10:16 AM
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I am aware of the numbers my good man. Blood group testing from decades ago (done for medical science) revealed that 1 in 4 children are not the fathers... This was back before divorce rates started to climb. I am aware that 75% of long term relationships experience cheating. I am not a child. Human beings have ALWAYS been like this. We are as a biological species way less monogamous than we pretend to be. You can either accept without resentment what humans are, and work with what we are toward…
/r/MGTOW201/09/20 10:11 AM
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What to do exactly would depend on the specific problem. But generally I would say never ever give up on talking. At the height of the cold war when the USSR and USA had their fingers on the button waiting for the opportunity to end the world. Even if only in back channels they never stopped talking. Apartheid is never the way.
/r/MGTOW201/09/20 09:48 AM
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I believe that universal healthcare and education should be provided by the government. This according to some in US makes me a communist, in Europe it is already provided to citizens by most countries.
/r/MGTOW201/09/20 09:42 AM
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If you want to avoid the censorship rules of reddit (fine) tell me in a private chat. Feel free not to pull any punches I am an adult.
/r/MGTOW201/09/20 09:40 AM
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I am not entirely sure how many partners my wife had before me? She has been with more men than me and I with more women than her... What would be an acceptable number on this front? Frankly I don't see what difference her "number" here would make, we are happy together now. So what that she was with other men, she chose me as I chose her? My brother in law's wife worked as a bartender before they got together. Her number is very high like approaching 40 (or something), they are happy and expect…
/r/MGTOW201/09/20 09:33 AM
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Well I disagree that a gender apartheid is the best route for men or the best adjustments to make in the current climate. It will only add to bitterness and resentment, as far as I can see.
/r/MGTOW201/09/20 09:24 AM
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I would need some examples of this cheerleading you speak of? Should I not be teaching my daughter (for example) to be assertive and get out into life and dominate? I mean you can be the sheep or the shepherd, I teach her to be the later.... as I do with my son?
/r/MGTOW201/09/20 09:07 AM
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The question of law is something I cannot comment on beyond saying that shit laws exist (whatever potentially good (or otherwise) intentions might have been behind their formulations). South Africa is not free of that problem... I am not a legal scholar but our legal system is based off of a combination of the Dutch and British models. Your example: A woman using the law to fleece a man whilst chasing another feels like an example of my point? Such a woman is a bad person, but what does that hav…
/r/MGTOW201/09/20 08:57 AM
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Deceiver I know you bring not peace, I read your philosophy of the sheep. You hide your lies behind "...in the name of God..." as if such a ploy would lend weight to your hateful doctrine. No deceiver it is your small beliefs that are not worthy of men of good conscience and life. You speak of death when you should be seeking out life. I have nothing for you but pity. For you deserve no more or less.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 07:02 PM
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That was the Bible? I had always been assured it was a book of great wisdom... but instead you show me it is a hateful doctrine that seeks to blacken the human spirit, and turn us against one another. Never again shall I trust the words of a Christian, begone from my presence! You who sell spite and self loathing as love, you deceitful toad. Your lies are offensive to all men who would life a live without bitterness or resentment.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 06:11 PM
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Citation required.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 05:20 PM
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I do not judge friendships, relationships or loves as being "true", if and only if, they are unconditional. A friendship, relationship or love is only "true" wherein you and they accept in the other that together you are imperfect and will make mistakes, will be short sighted and will be inconsiderate... and in this recognition you forgive each other of those flaws. Demanding perfection from a love is not to love at all... for you do not love them you love an ideal in your mind, an ideal which n…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 03:29 PM
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Are you complaining that love isn't unconditional? You're 12? I am sorry then. Yes it also sucked when I realized that I had been lied to by my immediate family about unconditional love and support. There is only unconditional love and support for little children. As you grow and realise that your being comes with expectations that must be met for acceptance it is difficult to deal with. I remember being 12 and going through this... it sucked. Relationships between not related adults is about ex…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/20 08:13 PM
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A range... I never chased "pussy" (it seemed like, and still does, a waste of my time). But several of my friends and both my brother-in-laws chased n hard for a while. Especially back in our university days... My brother in law married a very close friend who I have know for a long time (under grad at uni) and she has been with 30+ guys over the years. They met through me & my SO.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 04:18 PM
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You are an insecure boy aren't you... Are you worrying when you're having sex your micro isn't measuring up to all the "alphas" she's been with? If you like the woman then you like her. All you are doing is desperately looking for "ammunition" in your imaginary war against woman. You are your own worst enemy... and so when a woman meets a real man who isn't insecure that she made a monumental error in judgement (you in this story) yes obviously they're thinking "maybe I should ditch the insecure…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 04:00 PM
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Neither I, nor none of the men I know, worry about that. I mean when I was 12 (or was it 21 I struggle to tell the difference now) some of the insecure boys worried about it. But once I was a true adult close to 30 and older no one I know gave it another thought. If you're with a woman who has been dating for a decade+ as have you... you might know who their previous bf was, but who they fucked 10+ years ago when they where insecure children, well it just doesn't matter at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 03:37 PM
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This. The number of "attractive" guys I knew who have racked up a high n (or chased a high n) at varsity generally seemed to go for a very diverse range of girls. They were not very picky beyond a girl being not too fat and/or having poor hygiene. If the girl wasn't too fat and kept well groomed guys would be after her. Again in the university context.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 01:57 PM
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Well it depends on what you mean by mainstream acceptance. The term hypergamy as it stands is one borrowed (if not stolen) from India with its caste system. So in a sense the term has acceptance. Within mainstream academic circles the term could be used when analysing societies which have more rigid social hierarchies (as with the Indian Caste system, or an aristocratic system). It is unclear how useful such a term would be in describing societies with higher levels of social mobility. This then…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 07:59 AM
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Liberal Feminism. Which is focussed primarily on extending the ideals of personal autonomy to women (as well as men). Herein it should be the function of government, at least minimally, to ensure that all people should be able to persue their interests to their fullest capacity. Thus government should represent and be representative of all people, not just narrow interest groups. Herein they are an extension of the liberal ideals (as used in philosophy, not US politics) to women. They in no way …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/20 06:50 AM
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Well I wish I had posted this instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/20 04:55 AM
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Right and wrong are nothing to you... human decency is nothing to you... You are part of the problem then, you justify being shitty using others as an excuse. But you're just being shitty because you've given up on humanity. All I have for you is pity, and for me you have nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 08:15 PM
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What other people do doesn't change what is right or wrong. They are not an excuse for you making the world shittier. Eye for an eye just makes us all blind. You have nothing to lose but human decency. I know it is probably nothing to you...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 08:02 PM
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Why do you want to make other people's lives more difficult? That is just spiteful and vindictive, basically it is unethical. In such you are just being a dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 07:38 PM
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I didn't lie I reported my experience, as it stands thus far. Although your response confirms my, thusfar, findings. Although I have not closely looked at MGTOW2 yet, which I have been directed to.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 06:20 PM
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I am making a case, engaging in a dialogue. That is all one can do... Offer a critique and then discuss with people strengths and weaknesses in the ideals of a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 04:14 PM
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Cyanide is also normal, I still would not recommend you live a life consuming cyanide.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 04:11 PM
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I care about people. In this I will make a case for something being bad if and when I think it is not going to actually help you in life. Even if in the short term it might feel like it is. I care enough to make a case, put forward as argument. However, I am not your dad so I will not stop you jumping off a cliff into fire... but I will point out that I think you about to do just that. The point is to try and help your fellow humans as best as you can, without stripping them of their right to ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 04:09 PM
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Exaggerated, I guess I have to own that. It is a clear overstating of the state of affairs.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 02:35 PM
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Okay this I mostly agree with. Also I am a father to a daughter.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 02:16 PM
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I suppose it is true that in the lash out phase people will be louder... which may account for my experience thusfar.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 02:14 PM
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I will investigate these, am I wrong? Well if so I am always happy to be corrected.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 02:08 PM
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Perhaps you are correct. But I can only assess what I encounter, and thusfar it has not been positive. The redpill, the incels, and MGTOW in so far as I have encountered them are very negative. They all seem to share a rather myopic and silly view that all-women-are-baddies (being manipulative thots and/or whatnot). Women are human beings, flawed to be sure, as humans are... but women are not one thing? If I don't think a thing is positive for people, I will (or perhaps should) say so. If I am w…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 02:00 PM
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I agree wholeheartedly feminism that is driven by resentment will ultimately lead nowhere. People can forge new identities or ways of being by shedding the baggage of the past... or they will continue to repeat the same old same old ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 01:44 PM
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You have exactly no idea what my view points are. I have no interest in insisting you need to be having sex to have value or any other incel or rp nonsense. There are many people who find a reason for being outside of relationships. Marriage doesn't = a reason for being, that is silly.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 01:40 PM
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What will keep growing if it isn't a movement? What do you think a movement is? Saying I am full of hate and projecting, irony I suppose you are unfamiliar with?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 01:35 PM
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I never said it was like feminism in general. Jesus could you at least try some basic comprehension skills. In fact I said it is an inversion of an extreme variation of radical feminism. Of the kind you encounter on the gender critical sub. It is not however an inversion of "feminism" because feminism isn't one thing with one theory.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 01:31 PM
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How surprising a banal strawman of a two hundred+ year philosophical movement being used as a justification for your own nonsense ideas.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 01:24 PM
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Oh that counts as a "positive" life philosophy in your mind? Not being a father, not being a husband/boyfriend, and not being a roommate with a woman. Very encouraging.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 10:44 AM
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You keep saying it is a "personal philosophy" you point me to the sidebar... But I read it and get NOTHING? I mean I know what the Stoic philosophy of life is, I have read it positively stated. I even know what some feminist philosophy of life would look like. I have read it positively stated. I know what veganism is. MGTOW is proposing what exactly? Do whatever makes you feel good is just a restatement of hedonism, at which point MGTOW is redundant.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 10:22 AM
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You think they offend me, how quaint.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 10:09 AM
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And after reading the side bar (in particular the second) I am reminded of my critique. MGTOW is just an inversion of extreme variations of radical feminism: wherein they claim all men are X. Those same feminists say to women EXACTLY the same thing about knowing v not knowing your oppressor (there men). The MGTOW inversion, men become the oppressed and "vile" women the oppressors. Patriarchy gets replaced with some silly pet term for women-being-the-baddies. This is an immature philosophy involv…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 10:00 AM
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I have found no positive expression of a MGTOW philosophy, which doesn't involve some commentary and hatred of women. I am critiquing what I see from the movement, which includes what I have encountered in different places. I already acknowledged the phase in my post, what I never hear is someone who is a "MGTOW" and isn't a festering wounded creature full of resentment.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 09:15 AM
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I hope you are correct. But in my experience resentment can corrode a person's soul too easily, to the point which they become locked into a bad place.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 08:49 AM
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I would be interested in such a group. I myself have no time for hate/resentment, it takes up so much mental energy and defines too much in your life. I would rather do just about anything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 08:40 AM
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Google the evolution of menopause. Google the role of old people in hunter gatherer communities. And stop being so stupid it makes me sad to think you even exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 04:13 PM
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Assuming we discussing a ltr decision actually either way is fine. The deciding factor between the two will be who is more interesting. After all in an ltr you will be spending a lot of time in their company. A boring "traditional woman" submissive type would be intolerable. I want a woman who I can investigate life with and forge new stories with. I have no interest in just "keeping up" with any one else.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 02:19 PM
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That is bullshit. Going home with someone creates an expectation that sex is very much a possible outcome. Especially if you're going home from a date, or similar, situation. But the fact that it is an open probability is not the same as consent!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/20 10:31 AM
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What relevance would such a superficial act have? In a subjective sense what difference would my fitting or not some narrative of "attractiveness" make.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/20 12:31 PM
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The "impure" are the people who have lived, with an adventurous spirit. They burn with passion for living life on their terms, without concern for the morality of the bleating sheep (as seen above). I want a woman who has seized life by the balls, not some vinalla "purity tested and approved" limp being who is too afraid to know what she wants nevermind go for. No "kings" will be discovered in this sentiment only knaves scared of women. You sell yourself as going your own way... but instead foll…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/20 11:50 AM
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Good for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 08:16 PM
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Why would I look for a woman using MGTOW categories? Like I give a fuck about their medieval ideals of feminine morality. I wish MGTOW would hurry up and "go their own way" far the fuck away. Maybe they can all get together in a village of men and set up their safe space circles to bleat their philosophy of the sheep complaints of how women have human rights and autonomy. MGTOW are a bunch of whiny snowflakes who boo hoo about wamen.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 04:15 AM
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Everyone turns down sex eventually. Life just isn't symmetrical in terms of how you feel physically. Even I have turned down the opportunity to have sex as the male (which is never supposed to happen, or something) because I just fell asleep from being tired. In a true ltr (decade+) it just happens occasionally. It isn't the end of the world. Turning down sex once in a while with a true SO isn't a problem to worry about. Never desiring to have sex with an SO might be.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/19 10:21 AM
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You can write "should" if you like. However if someone sees themselves as being "high value" then why would they invest "more" into a relationship than the other person? I value myself to the extent that I am not going to demean myself chasing after someone who isn't expressly investing time and interest in me. I am not, nor will I ever be, desperate enough to invest asymmetrically into a relationship. Moreover, obviously I will look after my children but a human woman is an adult, with a brain …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/19 09:43 AM
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There are over seven billion humans on the planet spread across a variety of cultures, with different norms surrounding "roles" and ideals about how to be a good person. No one is all-like-that all of the time, that is not the animal human beings are. This is the feature that allows us to adapt our behaviour to prosper in any environment on the planet. A requirement of behavioral adaptability is that no groups are truly all-like-that all of the time. The only exception to this is motherhood, in …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/19 04:41 AM
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If that view justifies your existence good for you I suppose.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/19 06:20 AM
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That is an entirely unjustified assumption. Why must a guy who is "slaying" be an idiot?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/19 05:24 AM
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That is an impossible assessment to make on behalf of a person whose words you haven't heard. Nor do you truly know what is at stake in the context of this question. You're just making assumptions, I am not doing that over a reddit post.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/19 08:58 PM
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No orders, no ultimatums. Just a simple reality: You cannot exist is a state of depression forever and expect someone else to put up with that when you are doing nothing to improve your situation. Sometimes a person needs to be reminded of this reality. Obviously timeframes matter here, in a shorter time these words would be unnecessary... but they will get said if nothing changes in the long term. Either they are spoken honestly, in a fashion that aids the relationship or they are spoken in ang…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/19 08:53 PM
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You need to communicate. Losing a job sucks, as does being in an accident. A person after these events is going to be a little insecure. That in the short term is understandable... But you haven't given any time frame here? In the short term depression and whatnot are pretty normal reactions... however, at some point it becomes a pathology. It happened to me. After university I was unemployed, in a bad space, felt like my life was going nowhere. My gf was understanding, but she also basically ki…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/19 07:39 PM
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Fair enough I deserve this one.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/19 11:36 AM
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Nope if that was what you read me as suggesting then I miscommunicated my position.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/19 06:34 AM
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And I am saying what do I care what those others are into? I am attracted to what I am attracted to, those other woman can go ride someone else's D they don't interest me.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/19 06:25 AM
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They are doing the work they chose to do? Most didn't stay in academia...they went and got jobs elsewhere. Some did. My SO didn't, I am not sure what you're trying to get at.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/19 06:22 AM
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I am in an ltr with a woman who has multiple post grad qualifications. So yes. Every girl I have ever dated has a post grad.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/19 06:19 AM
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I give zero fucks about the interests of knuckle dragging chimps. I am into beings with a brain cell and who are interesting, witty, and challenging. You want to suck my cock pass the IQ test or fuck off.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/19 06:13 AM
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Look every girl whose "pussy I was deep in" I met over a table and/or argument about various issues within human intellectual life. You might say it was part of my selection criteria, if a woman cannot engage with me equally, or as a better, within an intellectual setting they don't get to "ride my D" or whatever. I have never had any issues with my ability to get a woman. Am within an LTR now... But I am not sure what point you're trying to make?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/19 06:09 AM
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Stating a thing is false without saying why is meaningless. I have no idea what the accusation of "very omega belief" is meant to imply.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/19 05:57 AM
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Hmm... there is still talk about unrepentant "cutting ties with women" and "beta knights coming to rescue women" on the site. Especially in the context a guy who is not sure he should just throw his current gf into the deep end so he can "GMOW". Still posts about single mothers being a terrible. And that they must never be dated, as to do so encourages other women to be single mothers. But yes overall it isn't as bad as the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/19 04:28 AM
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Didn't know about the other group, will read
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/19 04:07 AM
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And you call me "triggered" lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/19 03:02 AM
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Really NO women EVER gave a fuck about philosophy or science... including I suppose the woman who do philosophy and science? The only men who "slay" are thoughtless knuckle dragging dumb dumbs. Do tell me more.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/19 02:57 AM
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Being interesting and passionate is unrelated to having women be interested in you, seems unlikely.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/19 02:44 AM
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In respect to the manner in which we address each other, and the norms by which we judge one another as beings with value I seek to be creative. Herein is asked why is it necessarily the case that a person must operate within a narrow range of accepted ideals. It is as you fear a space with little wriggle room on many levels, but importantly not every level. Anecdotally, my sister-in-law is a high powered advocate who specializes in constitutional matters. She is flown across the country as her …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/19 09:05 PM
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If one is to investigate through discussion/debate their views... they need to be expressed honestly. I am not here to pretend that my position isn't driven in part by emotion, that would be a lie. So yes this pisses me off, ergo the emotional use of language. This doesn't mean I am speaking without the intention of listening.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/19 08:16 PM
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To create something new one must risk. Risk the unknown and risk being wrong. But again I do not advocate being blind to history.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/19 07:45 PM
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I don't advocate historical blindness. Without historical awareness you'll think you're creating something new, but instead you're going to be engaged in an act of reinventing the wheel. The wheel exists, you don't get praise for making it again. The artistic spirit must understand its origins in order to be engage in an act of true inventiveness. Where better is this artistic spirit applied than on our very soul? What higher art could there be but one wherein we make something of ourselves, som…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/19 07:35 PM
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I am always open to changing my mind. But you don't know me, so I understand your scepticism.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/19 06:49 PM
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You've given me no reason to cmv.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/19 06:44 PM
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Pro red pill bs.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/19 06:43 PM
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If it whines like a duck and what not... I see none of what you go on about.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/19 06:39 PM
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Sure all the break throughs in human progress where made by the beautiful people, not the smartest ones. Superficial bs. Go watch the Kardashians and whine about how none of those women would give you a second look.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/19 06:36 PM
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In human beings there is no agreement about what constitutes an alpha v beta, or if such terminology is particularly helpful with understanding human behaviour. From an academic perspective. As I encounter the terms in use within discussion spaces (like this), alpha and beta seem to be used to describe the phenomenon of variation in "luck with women". Alphas get the girls whilst betas, at best, pick up the scrapes or nothing at all. The "betas" then describe the alphas as they see them, and in s…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/19 06:33 PM
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🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/19 05:59 PM
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Perhaps but when I tried the spaces a while ago... as I generally approve of movements that seek to develop the self... the rage and whining is all I encountered and when I called it out as unjustified everyone got even more whiny.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/19 05:58 PM
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Well that is also probably true.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/19 05:50 PM
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Please don't pretend that these spaces, or at least the ones on YouTube and Reddit (obviously I can only assess what I have encountered) don't whine on about how women are the worst. MGTOW, as I have encountered it, is very women bashy in its rhetoric. And whenever I refuse to accept their "justifications" for such activities they become very hot under the collar.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/19 05:49 PM
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Yeah that is whiny AF.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/19 05:28 PM
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Pointing at someone and going see is not now nor will it ever be an argument of any worth. Give an actual argument or you're just weak AF.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/19 05:26 PM
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Hilter also loved dogs and was a vegetarian. Don't dog lovers know they have something in common? You can't go round loving dogs. Pointing to a person and going "see", is as compelling an argument as talking randomly whilst asleep.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/19 04:58 PM
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Well said.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/19 04:29 PM
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🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/19 04:13 PM
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Hitler was a whiny little bitch who worried that the Jews didn't like his paintings.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/19 03:53 PM
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No I have failed at many things even though I set my mind to it. But you have two options: 1) get up and raise the middle finger to adversity and keep going. 2) Wilt and fade, giving up on life... maybe pray heaven will be better (or something equally lame).
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/19 03:48 PM
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I enjoy discussion and debate. I do this because I enjoy it. I feel exactly no anxiety about it however. So "worry" is not why I am here at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/19 03:43 PM
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Such hurtful words, perhaps I'll even remember them after this post... but I doubt it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/19 03:34 PM
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The validity of the observation.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/19 03:32 PM
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I am not a "special" example of humanity though. I work as a sign language teacher to deaf kids from impoverished backgrounds in rural South Africa. I have two kids and am in a committed relationship. What you feel you can do or achieve is merely an act of daring or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/19 03:29 PM
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You might recognise there is an entirely different way to be?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/19 03:12 PM
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I was attempting to make the point using the tone of a red piller as I have encountered them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/19 03:09 PM
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Going your own way: good. Not settling for less: good. Promoting change: good. Whining about feminism and or women have exactly what to do with those three things? Following the past has exactly what to do with say promoting change. That's not change that is following. Learning from the past: good. Following it: not so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/19 03:06 PM
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You don't have to "own" it literally for it to be a playground of possibility. If you're not playful that is on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/19 03:00 PM
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Philosophy/science/human accomplishment is beta in your books... whatever. You care so much about doing what any animal can do (well except for incels) and so little of what makes us unique. Sounds pretty beta to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/19 02:57 PM
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Sure if you're boring and unimaginative you're going to be lackluster. I suppose if the best you can do is be an NPC clone of someone else, than that is the best you can do. Read some books, get knowledgable, feel some fire in your soul. If you don't like reading or learning or developing then you're dead anyway. The world will never be yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/19 02:52 PM
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I am interested in debate and development of interesting ideas. I give a shit about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/19 02:35 PM
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Bullshit I am an introvert and I find nothing "lackluster" about my life. I search because I am curious. I have no need for the adoration of others. Edit: spelling
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/19 02:33 PM
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Who determines what is the "right" kind of authentic? Why do you spend you time chasing after attention? People should be fighting for your attention, you should be interesting and passionate. Why be the moth when you can be the flame? You think I spend time worrying about other people's expectations of my behaviour. I am me, and behave as me with an eye on becoming more than just that... I do treat people as people, I am not an asshole. But beyond that I do me, and that is enough. If I don't me…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/19 02:21 PM
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In the history of art women have not been held to higher standards of beauty than men, or been represented more than men? The David is literally standing there naked? Ancient Greek sculpture was just as fascinated by what-it-took-to-be male beauty, if not more so, as with female beauty. The men in Greek sculpture are all Adonis types and very naked. I would say that the standards of beauty for men and women are different, but in art history I wouldn't say it is worse for either. They're just hel…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/19 09:22 PM
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I was at home. A friend she phones me and invites me to go out with a bunch of her friends. I wasn't too keen, a guy with a bunch of girls... but she pleaded. So I am "fine, but you're driving so I can at least be stoned." Anyway at a table with a bunch of girls. One is sitting across from me, I've got nothing better to do. So I ask what she studied at university... her answer psychology. This leads quickly to a philosophical argument about psychology being a discipline that lacks rigor in its s…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/19 08:44 PM
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I am 42 and have two kids... so pretty well. Although I stated an ideal, as a matter of practical reality a real person isn't an ideal. That is something I've learned in life. This is not in anyway to suggest I settled, but a real person is who they are not who you want them to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/19 08:07 PM
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Questioning and open minded. Is motivated to succeed and take life by the horns. She must be interesting to talk to and always curious to learn more. She must be challenging and witty. I find submissive types boring AF and basically a waste of time. I hate followers. They're just sheep. People who like submissive types are weak AF, they cannot tame/ride the wild horse. They have no adventurous spirit, they're boring. A lioness. Intelligent, a person who will be able to stand alongside me as an a…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/19 07:49 PM
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