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Some do. I'll give you that. But as a female minimalist, I notice there are way more women who are minimalists than men. Men have a lot more shit (action figures, sports memorabilia, etc.) The nagging wife relegating the husband's stuff to his man cave or donating it behind his back is a trope for a reason. And one of my biggest fears about dating as a minimalist.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 07:29 PM
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I know way more dirty women than men. I was a camp counselor in college. The girls' dorm was way messier than the boys'. The girls had laundry and literal garbage all over their beds, floors, etc. The bathroom was a literal crime scene with blood in places it shouldn't be (bloody underwear on the floor, used pads stuck to shower walls or just not in the provided trash can, toilet seats covered in piss and blood, etc.) I'm the neat freak of my friend group whose house doesn't look like a bomb wen…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 12:47 PM

Lack of home training... I was a counselor for a summer college prep camp on my university's campus. We lived in the dorms and shared a bathroom with the students. I've, literally and figuratively, seen some shit. The bathroom was a crime scene and the students' rooms weren't much better (laundry and junk everywhere). Keep your room as you wish but be mindful of public areas. I found used maxi pads stuck to the shower walls. Mind you, these were juniors and seniors in high school, so had periods…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 11:49 AM

IDK, as a girl who grew up in church, I was taught to "simp" for men. Cook for him, take care of his every physical and emotional need, dress a certain way to impress him, etc. When I began dating, all of that turned out to not work. They do not want the "banana bread baddie" despite saying so. I was serving the wrong kind of cake, apparently.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 04:03 PM
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I don't just have sex with random people. I date to marry. That said, because nobody seems to want to commit, I do not tell anyone about my dating life (or lack thereof, so many failed talking stages). I'm at the point that I have no desire to tell anyone (friends, family, colleagues) about anyone I'm interested in until the ink on the marriage license is dry. Though, I'd be open to dating someone they vetted for me. I've been asked to be set up, but all of my friends' other friends are married …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 01:54 PM
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Ugh, this is my struggle. I enjoy stand-up comedy, but wish we had one female comedian who was actually clean. Or at least, one whose act didn't devolve into graphic sex stuff. Like, I need a female version of Nate Bargatze, John Crist, or Gabriel Iglesias.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 03:21 PM
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Yeah, I do like Taylor Swift. She's one of the few "newer" (though, she got her start when I was a teen in the early 00s and miss the old Taylor) artists I can actually stand.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 03:19 PM
4

No, survivors of purity culture, which I'd argue, is a form of sexual abuse, but not as severe as actual assault.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 03:01 PM
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Not all of us are into that stuff. Some of us just want one normal TV show we can watch with our elderly parents in the room that doesn't have a graphic sexual or violent scene. We also listen to genres of music that aren't known for degrading women, even if it means we mostly listen to "oldies." There are entire BookTok accounts devoted to promoting "low to no-spice" romance novels for those of us who want a book with an actual story and not just smut. It's a fun game of, am I just "outgrowing"…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 02:42 PM
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Am a conservative (politically moderate, but have more conservative views re: social issues, including relationships) and nominally religious (grew up in church and do believe in the "good" parts I learned while rejecting the less savory stuff). I am calling total BS here and think the idea of duty sex is kind of gross. Most of us believe in consent and a "complementarian" relationship where we're viewed as more than just sex objects. Do not lump me and other such conservative women in with our …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 01:38 PM
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Actually, people did tell men this, especially if they grew up in church. And namely, parents, pastors, and teachers. I'm a girl who grew up in church during 90s-00s purity culture. I was told that sex was my duty as a woman to "keep" a man. Male survivors I've encountered tell me that they were taught that marriage = sex on demand in response.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 12:05 PM
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No, because adults in relationships should be able to have these kinds of conversations with one another. Your likes, your dislikes, etc. I'd argue this extends outside of the bedroom.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 06:18 PM
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No, most churches ignore you at best or treat you like actual dog shit at worst once you pass the age of 25 as a single here. I'm in my mid-30s.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 05:37 PM
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Not sure what you mean by "above" them but I do prefer men who are more educated / professionally accomplished than me.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 04:52 PM
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Well, how else do people meet outside of dating apps in 2026? I wanted that "godly" man when I was in my teens/20s (still do, but know that's nearly impossible to find now). Though, I've loosened up on that requirement as I wonder if teen me accidentally rejected our soul mate because he wasn't a Christian (or the "right" kind).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 03:51 PM
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The other girls are conventionally attractive, so that helps. As for regretting not doing hookups, kind of? Like, had I known this would've been my life I would've had a little more "fun" in high school and college, including, yes, hookups. I wonder if I'd be married now if I'd "practiced" more for future relationships. After all, listen to the lyrics of WAP and how Megan Thee Stallion got that ring.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 03:50 PM
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Not true. I was a good girl who followed all the rules and didn't get the reward I was promised by the adults in my life growing up. The "loose" girls nobody was supposed to want because they're "used up" are all happily married. This pisses me off to no end.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 02:06 PM
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IDK, but as a single woman who wants kids, I want to know where the hell all these guys who want kids are? Every dude I meet either is not sure or only wants them someday, maybe.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 09:14 PM
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Honestly, at this point, I wouldn't be against it, but I do desire marriage because of the legal protections it offers (hospital visits, social security, etc.) Hell, I'd sign up for an arranged marriage if it were an option for my boring white American self.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 04:21 PM
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Not true... As a woman, I believe marriage still offers benefits to me, especially in today's economy. I find the whole "I can't afford marriage" line to be a crock of shit. Marriage is still the best way to build wealth. In the past, people lived with their spouse instead of a roommate when they reached adulthood. The single tax is real. It'd be nice to have someone to share expenses with and get tax benefits that come with being married. In the states, singles without dependents are taxed the …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 04:08 PM

All of the above. I like being able to "turn my brain off" with a man as the kids say on Tiktok.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 11:35 AM

It's how we're socialized around dating, especially if we grew up in conservative Christian households. Men are the ones who are to pursue us, not the other way around. Even in the secular world, we're told that men "enjoy the chase" and are called "crazy/clingy" if we make the first move. It's frustrating in 2026 when men don't pursue. I'm old fashioned and like the idea of the man being "in charge" and pursuing me. It makes me feel desired and desirable. Unfortunately, men don't really do that…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 10:06 AM
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Disagree... Women are still shamed. It's just a "damned if you, damned if you don't" situation. Put out? You're a slut. Don't put out? You're a prude. But the dude rejecting you for being a prude would call you a slut if you did put out. You really can't win!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 04:03 PM

Not always. Some of us did "choose better" but it didn't turn out to be. Most of the men I've dated have been educated professionals (engineers, etc.) The immaturity and lack of commitment are still there.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 06:20 PM
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I'm really pissed that none of the nice boys my mom said were supposed to be at church were there. I call BS on the young men being more religious now trope. I've encountered more women than men there. For real, though, I'm not a bar or club person and dating apps suck. Find me at the library, farmers market, or church with all of the other banana bread baddies. There are plenty of women in these spaces.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 10:44 AM
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There is none! Pick me is an insult used to keep women in line. If I had a dollar for every time I've been called a pick me, I'd be richer than Bezos and Musk combined.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 06:14 PM
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As a woman who has been called a pick me more times than I can't count, I can reliably say this is BS. Men do not want us. They pass us over for the baddies.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 07:02 PM
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I've been on every GD app for nearly a decade. At this point, I'd seriously consider an arranged marriage if the option were presented to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 05:56 PM
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Personal experience... I hate how, as a single woman, I'm told to "put myself out there" to meet guys. I'm out there, but the men aren't. It could just be where I live (college town with high retiree population in the rural Northeast) but every gym, church, cafe, or other community event / 3rd space is full of women with the few men present being dragged there by their wives or girlfriends. Single men are hiding at home with their video games and porn, I guess. It's largely self-inflicted. I eve…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 05:03 PM
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No, I'm hostile to it because as a neurodivergent, not conventionally attractive woman, it puts me in a box at best or downright fetishes me/my condition at worst.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 02:30 PM
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Depends on the circumstances of the death. Having lost a parent to terminal illness (long cancer battle), you really do a lot of your grieving while they're still physically (in cases of dementia, your person is no longer there long before they actually die) here. By the time they actually do die, you are often ready to move on to the next chapter and leave that part of your life behind. This is especially the case for caregivers, which often spouses are to one another at end of life. I'd imagin…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 01:02 PM
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Single... I'd probably wait at least 6 mos. to a year, but who knows? I will do it when I'm ready, whenever that happens to be. I've never lost a spouse, so don't really know how I'd react IRL, but have no desire to spend the last 30 years of my life alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 12:51 PM
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Single, but have seen this situation taken to the extreme in my family. My aunt lost her husband to cancer in their 50s. She hasn't even been on a date in the 25 years since. She treats my cousin, her adult child, as a substitute spouse. It's truly sad. She deserves to be happy and I'm sure her husband would want that for her, too. While I wouldn't date before the body is cold, I'd eventually date after losing a spouse. It makes me so happy to see widow(er)s find love after loss. They deserve it…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 12:41 PM

Educate me, what do I need to know?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 08:05 PM

Being breadcrumbed, ghosted, ignored, expected to do all the emotional labor (text pen pals, planning dates, etc.) without any effort in return it's exhausting.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 03:01 PM

I don't even want a dinner date. I'm fine with coffee dates. I just want a call or text back. I want to actually meet and spend quality time, even if it's just a walk in the park. Show some effort and don't leave all the emotional labor to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 02:49 PM

And this is the problem with modern dating. Not financial investment but time and personal investment. Like, who can care less? Drives me nuts as my love language is quality time. Sorry, I only know how to be caring and attentive as a woman who dates men. I'm what the kids call a banana bread baddie. Apparently, men hate that and go for the baddies who treat them like dog shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 01:20 PM
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Holy crap, this actually makes sense. Like, I'm not against the original feminist movement (allow women to vote, work, have bank accounts, etc.) but the modern version has really gone off course.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 07:56 PM
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I've experienced those things, too. Victim of mean girls all through school and into adulthood.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 11:56 AM
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I've received several of those bans. I call them awards.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 01:57 AM
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You're part of the way there. Fair discourse won't happen because we're divided as women. Any woman who doesn't agree with the "status quo" gets called a pick me and is excluded from the in-group. I am such a woman. I wear that pick me title with pride.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 01:57 AM
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I was that at one point. When I first left college I was 5'4 and 120 lbs. I still am as I've managed to keep the weight off in my 30s. I was also very drunk on the conservative Christian Kool Aid I grew up on. All I wanted was a godly man. In my 30s, I know that a relationship takes more than just a shared faith and a lot of godly men really aren't what they claim to be (abusers, misogynists, etc.)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 10:54 PM

Dating is hard regardless of gender. See also, "Women have it easy in dating. Just don't be fat." Oh, if only it were that simple. Also, let's ignore all the married fat women, shall we?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 02:37 PM
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I'm an only child. I feel like I missed out by not having siblings. I want someone else who shares my DNA, especially since my dad is deceased and my mom is elderly (so probably not long for this world). I want someone to share life with and feel like it would give me a sense of purpose I don't currently have. I call BS on the single, childless women over 30 are happiest line.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 01:57 PM
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Educate me, how am I supposed to be doing this?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 09:13 PM
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Yes, but it's hard to tell online, which is why it sucks so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 02:39 PM
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Well, I'm 36 and single, so, no, I haven't had much luck. I also live in a small town where everyone settles down at 22. And dating apps are hell.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 12:38 PM
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I have been. Problem is, you can't legally force someone to marry you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 11:50 AM
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It's cope. I'm a single, childless woman over 30. I call BS on the line that my demographic is the happiest. I tried the pets, travel, hobbies, etc. that these happy single women claim make them so happy. It felt like I was just trying and failing to fill the void.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 02:08 AM

Because, to us, they are. As straight women, we have our own ideas of what we find attractive. Sometimes, this differs from what our friends find attractive. Or, in some cases, the dude is just objectively ugly. Exhibit A - my college mate's husband who looks just like Beavis.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 03:21 AM
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Filters for everything (age, lifestyle, relationship goals, location, etc.) Bring back OKcupid before it became another shitty swiping app. Allow me to "shop" for what I want and get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 10:36 PM
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No, some of us are religious good girls and not conventionally attractive. We wait on that godly man, who may not turn out to be so godly as we settle for whatever seemingly positive attention we get from a guy the closer we get to our "expiration date."
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 12:21 PM
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That's how I currently live, so, no biggie.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 03:50 PM
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So, we're just going to ignore the entire manosphere, eh?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 03:18 PM
0

Depends on the situation... There are legitimate medical reasons why one would need an abortion (ectopic pregnancy, post miscarriage care, dx of Down syndrome or other fetal anomalies). I'd argue mental health in the case of trauma survivors (pregnancy resulting from rape or incest). As for those who simply get abortions as birth control, yes, I believe it is dodging responsibility. It's 2026 and we have a wide variety of options for birth control. Use them. Also, there are many prospective pare…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 03:15 PM
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IDK who these men who want kids are as a woman who wants them, but I call BS. Most men I encounter are "not sure" about kids or only want them "someday, maybe" despite pushing 40.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 05:28 PM

Are you married to my friend? She just uprooted herself and her husband to another state to pursue a PhD at 35 last year. I'm convinced they're going to end up divorced after she graduates.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 12:00 PM
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Unattractive and socially awkward women exist online and get called cringe. Cyber bullying among teenage girls is real and rampant. Hell, there have been studies on how social media negatively affects the mental health of teen girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 09:31 PM
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I also live in a fairly conservative community, so ymmv.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 09:00 PM
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Ooh, I wonder if this is generational as well. Like, I'm an elder millennial and you are Gen. X (maybe on boomer cusp). Gen Z, Alpha, and younger millennials to a degree want to share everything and have no real concept of privacy (to the point of tracking each other's locations). I know Sex and the City was a thing for Gen X but that was TV, not real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 06:43 PM
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IDK, but I don't do this with my female friends and find it off putting when other women do it around me. Most of my friends are married. To me, it's a matter of healthy boundaries and I do not understand this type of girl talk. Certain parts of your relationship should stay in your relationship. Not everyone needs to know everything. I wouldn't want my partner talking about that part of our lives or my body to their friends. Why would I do the same to them?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 05:41 PM
1

But if I do, they still won't want me and will slut shame me on top of it. Damned if I do, damned if I don't. Sigh...
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 08:27 PM
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I don't think men know what men want. Or at least aren't consistent about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 02:39 PM
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Hell, no. Unattractive women exist. Introverted women exist. Despite men saying they want the good little church girl, they don't. They pass us over for the baddies they also slut shame and generally shit on.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 01:14 PM
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I don't have the power to do that. I'm not the president or someone in power who could make it legal in the states.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 01:00 PM
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Lack of positive male role models. I taught at a title 1 school before COVID. Most students were products of single moms or Mom was the default parent, even if Dad was around. At school, most teachers were women. My male students disrespected me and my female colleagues while worshipping our male colleagues. It makes perfect sense. They don't need another mommy nagging them, but a man to look up to. This lack of role models drives boys into the arms of the manosphere. We need more male teachers …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 07:29 PM
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Yes, but also the man would go to families and express interest in the daughter. It even happened in The Bible.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 02:01 PM
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Honestly, I'd take it. I've done a crap job at picking my own partners, why not give someone else a go? Arranged marriage is still common in India and they have the lowest divorce in the world. They must be doing something right.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 01:59 PM
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I suppose my genes are partially at fault. I'm built like a 12 year old boy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 01:58 PM
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No
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 03:12 AM
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Some of us are accepting... Unfortunately, those who reject do so loudly and have ruined it for the rest of us.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 02:32 AM
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It's how it's worked for hundreds of years. The men take the lead, pursue.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 02:18 AM
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Everyone and their dog is on the apps now because how else do you meet people in 2025? I hate it, but such is life. V
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 12:37 AM
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Not true, I actually prefer nerdy short kings and find the whole height obsession weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 12:35 AM
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I feel like it will make a comeback. Folks are fed up with the apps and want to get away from them. There are still women, myself included, who want men to pursue us.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 12:21 AM
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Income? No. Lifestyle influenced by social media? Yes. But I'd argue all genders are equally guilty. See all the UMC men whining about the financial clock as they waste women's biological clock. Meanwhile, unemployed crackheads are breeding like bunnies. I've considered taking up a crack habit so I can finally have a family. People's priorities are messed up. I saw so much of this teaching at a title 1 school. You can raise a kid in an apartment. Your kid doesn't need the latest iGadget, Jordans…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 11:37 PM
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There are plenty of us, of which I am one, we're just not the most fun or exciting. They pass us over for the baddies, while complaining about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 08:35 PM
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Money... I'd do it for money. I've spent my "career" working shit jobs for shit pay and life is expensive in 2025, especially as a single. I'm not smart enough (and wasn't smart enough to pursue in my youth) to get one of the high paying careers (doctor, engineer, etc.), so OF it would be.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 01:50 PM
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I'm not attractive enough. Nobody wants a homely 35 year old who is built like a 12 year old boy. I also have leftover body image issues from growing up in the 90s as a fat kid. If I had the looks, body, and confidence, however...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 01:47 PM
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Yes... See the mgtow, child free, and 4b movements. And how dating has been ruined for those of us who actually want a family and spouse.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 09:30 PM
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Yup! As a good church girl, I always got passed over by the godly men I was supposed to pursue for the baddies, never mind how these men shit on baddies. I just wish they'd be consistent about what they want. I agree with the OOP. I often wonder what I did wrong as I followed all the rules and didn't get the "reward" I was promised, while the "loose" girls nobody was supposed to want did.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 03:47 PM
0

I'd be all for it. I'm so over the hellscape that's modern dating. I've done a crap job at picking my own partners, why not give someone else a go?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 03:24 AM
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And those are few and far between. See all my female friends, relatives, and colleagues who in one breath say I'm too picky, and in the next, tell me all the ways their men "ain't shit."
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 03:55 PM
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Conservative leaning woman, here. Yes, we do exist. We value honesty, loyalty, and commitment. All the basic stuff nobody seems to know how to do anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 01:24 PM
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I do, as a formerly fat person who wants to keep her ass small. I'm the whitest white girl alive, I'd look ridiculous with a dump truck. Also, too poor for plastic surgery.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 07:33 PM
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No boobs, no ass. I'm built like a 12 year old boy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 06:02 PM

Or sex toys and now, apparently, AI chat bots. Sounds pathetic to me, but do you, boo.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 05:03 PM
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In a long term relationship that he'd left for an arranged marriage, but he was the only dude who paid me any positive attention after college and I settled hard. I have been celibate since then and not by choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 05:02 PM
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Exactly! I'm the unattractive introvert who loves to crochet. I'm always passed over for the baddies despite these men saying they want a woman like Grandma. Well, we exist, we're just not the most "fun" or attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 04:10 PM

It's dishonest, but not in the way you put it. I largely suspect a lot of the "happy, single childless women" they surveyed lied and it's all an act / cope. I am a single, childless woman over 30. I'm definitely not happy. I've tried all the things these ladies say give them meaning (travel, hobbies, pets, etc.) but it seems like I'm just trying (and failing) to fill the void. Also, having the money to do a lot of these things (travel in particular) helps, which I, and a lot of other single ladi…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 04:09 PM
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Not true in the least. If it were, I wouldn't have so many Peter Pans pushing 40 who are still "not sure" about marriage or kids or only want them "someday, maybe" in my dating pool as a straight woman of 35. Grow TF up already! I've been dating to marry since high school. I've been ready. I get not wanting to be tied down in high school or college, but by 30 you should know what you want and pursue that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 07:26 PM
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IDK, but as the good girl, I'm really tired of being passed over by men for baddies that they slut shame while wanting someone like me who they also call a prude. All humans, regardless of gender, should be clear about their dating intentions early on to avoid wasting others' time.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 06:25 PM
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Boring ass white person stuck in dating hell. I actually admire Indian culture for this reason. I wish arranged marriage was an option for my people. Peep the divorce rate in India vs. the states.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 10:56 AM

No, the single good girls are at church. The reformed sluts at church are all married.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 06:44 PM

Many of us do want marriage and kids. Though, we're not the most "fun" (introvert more comfortable at church than the club) or conventionally attractive women. We keep getting passed over for the baddies that men love to slut shame despite pursuing them anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 12:22 PM
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No, some of us are religious good girls who never experience that. Some of us are also not conventionally attractive enough to do such a thing. I had the blessing of being both. I was fat in my prime (high school and college) and invisible to boys. I also was a church girl. I'm 35, single, childless, and have lost weight but am still a good girl (more at home at church or the farmers market than the club), so don't anticipate it happening. Even if I wanted to, it'd just be kind of weird, sad, an…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 08:19 PM

Yes, and they do say so. A lot of them openly say that they "don't need no man" and are "happily childfree." Maybe they are, but it feels like cope to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 05:07 PM
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No, in my experience a lot of the "happy single women" are happy because they find fulfillment in other things (hobbies, career, travel, pets, etc.) they choose to pursue. And while that's great for them, I do not find fulfillment in those things despite trying them myself. I'm not happy as a single, childless woman. I mostly feel like I'm just floating through life without a purpose. It also helps to have the money to make those other things possible (I don't) as they can be expensive (travel, …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 04:42 PM
10

Tracks... See my high school classmates who are addicted to every substance known to man and have 5 kids each.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 04:18 PM
5

Exactly... I'm not a bar or club person. I have Grandma hobbies. I don't have a big group of girl friends to do a "girls trip" with and honestly, it sounds like hell to me after a lifetime of being victimized by mean girls. Even if I did, the plans wouldn't be sexy (yoga retreats, church conferences, film festivals, etc.)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 04:44 PM
-2

Eh, depends on the type of autism... In my experience as an ND woman, most of us over 30 didn't get a Dx until well into adulthood because girls didn't get autism in the 90s. We're not seen as cute and quirky for the most part, but rather weird at best or bitchy at worst. Higher functioning ND men are praised as geniuses (see Elon Musk) while a woman would be crucified for the same behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 10:57 AM
-4

Higher pay, better job opportunities, fewer expectations around parenting, safety just existing in public, lower chance of SA, shall I go on?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 08:24 PM
1

Male... Male privilege is still very real in 2025.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 12:50 PM
20

Related to economics? Realizing that life costs what you put into it and not all women are materialistic monsters. I dated a so called male feminist who wanted me to work and earn at least 6 figures to support his lifestyle. He has a 6 figure union job and lives in a small, fairly LCOL town but spends on dumb shit he doesn't need while crying poverty (new car, gaming system, etc.) We could live fairly comfortably with less spending. I work remotely but aspire to be a SAHM and am willing to make …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 01:48 PM
3

I mean, I'd take that over the vague, BS non-answers I seem to get about the kid question from men I've dated. So many of them are not sure or only want them "someday, maybe" despite pushing 40. Shit or get off the pot! What are you so unsure about? You only get to do the happy Hallmark moments and get praise for them. Also, the financial clock is a crock. I guarantee my crackhead classmates from high school weren't making $100k+ when they had their kids. Be so for real.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 01:46 PM
-4

Honestly, I truly wonder if I'm freer than my grandmother was as a woman living today. We're expected to lean in and have it all and look smoking hot while doing it. All Grandma had to do was stay home with her kids. With mass layoffs, an employer can leave you just as easily as a man can, so we don't have more "security" either. Also, expectations for men haven't really changed (just work). It's exhausting and I believe the tradwife movement is a response to modern capitalism and expectations.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 12:42 PM
5

Age... I've always dated to marry and never took part in hookup culture, even as a teenager (thanks religious upbringing). However, I can see how it would be appealing to a teen or 20 something (regardless of gender) who doesn't want to be tied down in high school or college (one of my biggest challenges dating in that season of life). That said, the idea of someone my age doing it (30s, or really post-college) is just weird, sad, and gross.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 02:54 PM
3

Not that much... Mostly because it is something that can be worked on. Also, I need a solid, nonsexual foundation for a relationship to build on. That is going to get you through life together more than sexual compatibility. Especially when you consider that sex may not be possible during some more challenging seasons of life (pregnancy/post-childbirth, aging, illness, etc)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 09:35 AM

The workplace was very different then. Sexual harassment laws were non-existent and what happened at work stayed at work. The companies that do allow employees to date may have policies requiring you to disclose the relationship to HR.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 10:43 AM
7

You may see the "good" side of their workplace relationship but if things go south, it can get messy really quickly. "Don't shit where you eat" is common advice for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 01:30 PM
4

I see you've met my mother and most of my aunts and female colleagues. As a single woman over 30 who doesn't hate men, I do find it hilarious how they'll call me picky in one breath before telling me all the ways their man ain't shit in the next. Like, maybe you should've been pickier.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 11:11 AM
5

I see it as a sign of family unity. I know it's not the modern, feminist thing to do, but I'd gladly take my husband's last name. I want the same last name as my kids. I also have a terrible relationship with my dad's side of the family because they're not the best people (addicts, abusers, etc.) and want to separate myself from that. If I say this around certain ladies, I get called a pick me and traitor to the sisterhood (completely ignoring our last names were our Dads') Also, I volunteered w…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 08:39 PM
0

I am the "low-maintenance" option. Still doesn't make me any more desirable. It just pisses me off because while men say they want a "low maintenance" girl, they go for the high maintenance ones. Make it make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 02:46 PM
1

I got no advances. I was basically invisible to the opposite gender until after college when I'd lost weight. And I settled for the first guy who paid me any positive attention, who ended up leaving me for a younger, hotter model a few years later.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 02:50 PM
1

No, I wanted a good, Christian man who wanted to be a provider and raise a family (so furthest thing from Chad). I unfortunately came of age at the intersection of hookup culture and purity culture. I was told by the adults in my life (parents, teachers, pastors) if I followed the rules, I'd be rewarded. I wasn't. I wonder what the point was and now wish I'd had more "fun" in high school and college. Maybe I'd be married if I did.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 02:45 PM
1

It's not that we don't think we exist. It's just presented as the universal female experience when it really isn't. Teen - 20 something me wasn't riding the cock carousel with Chad. She was too fat and quirky to even be visible to the opposite gender, but she knows plenty of girls who did. She never aspired to be some career boss babe, but just a mom and a wife. She followed all the rules thinking she'd get her reward of a godly man and a family. She didn't, but the "loose girls" nobody was supp…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 02:42 PM

We don't. If a girl puts out, she's a slut. If she doesn't, she's a prude. You can't win as a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 12:22 PM
3

I've worked with my share of those in the past. It's funny how they crow about women supporting women until a woman steps out of line and doesn't believe or aspire to the same things they do. Apparently, I'm a pick me.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 12:50 AM
5

Depends on the person... I am an older millennial white woman with a college degree and still very much straight. As a lifelong victim of mean girls, I have a healthy distrust of other women, so could never be in a relationship with one. Also, in my observation, there are more young women than men at church, which is what drew me to date outside the church in my 20s.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 10:46 PM
1

Love is a modern concept in the span of human history. Marrying for love has been a failed experiment IMHO. Most marriages in the past were arranged. With the shit show dating has become, I'd gladly go back to that. Look at the divorce rates where arranged marriage happens vs. where it does not.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 10:58 AM
4

Because they do not care and are too privileged. A lot of it is the victim mindset and not realizing how good we have it. America is by no means perfect, but I'd rather be a woman here than most of the world. I wish my more feminist colleagues would get that. Sometimes, I wish I could buy them all plane tickets to Saudi Arabia or other less female friendly counties so they could see what a lack of rights really looks like.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 10:27 AM
5

This, too. I HATE the texting, sorry, "talking" phase. No actual talking happens! Want to talk? Let's meet IRL for coffee and conversation. I wish I could outsource that whole process to an AI until the person on the other end of the line actually wants to meet up.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 06:56 PM
4

Or, how else do people meet in 2025? Especially if you live in a small town. My mileage is set to the max because the nearest larger town is like 2 hrs. away. Also, Mom lied, I couldn't just "meet a nice boy at church." And putting myself "out there" IRL hasn't worked. There are no men "out there" or at least, single men. I'm not a bar/club person, but most men I see at community events or volunteering were dragged there by their wives.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 06:55 PM
3

I guess if I had to pick one, liberal. Though, I actually don't consider myself a feminist because I am not a fan of what the movement has become in recent years. It's gone from supporting women and their choices to picking up every pet project along the way and shunning or insulting women who do not fall in line with the majority.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 07:55 PM
3

Not at all. I just have grandma hobbies like baking and knitting. Problem is, certain "personalities" have found their way into those spaces.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 08:34 PM
10

I feel like this is largely dependent on what side of social media you're on. As a 30 something, white, health conscious female, I get a lot of content of women baking bread while also talking about how we are "less than" men even going so far as to saying we shouldn't be able to vote.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 04:19 PM
6

I mean, some people are into it. I actually agree with you as a woman. I don't enjoy doing it. I also have a gag reflex that makes it challenging, to say the least. I've had partners who didn't really respect that. That said, if you don't enjoy doing something, communicate that with your partner and set that boundary.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 03:37 PM
9

I am a woman and pro-prenup. I am a child of divorce, so saw the hell my parents went through without one. Also, most people aren't going straight from Mom and Dad's house to their spouse's house anymore. Someone who marries at 30 has more to lose (house, car, etc.) than someone who marries right out of high school or college (no money, no house, maybe a beater for a car), regardless of gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 07:27 PM
2

They do. They're just too antisocial to pursue them. As a single woman, I am "putting myself out there" as so many well-meaning "friends" and family members tell me to do. Problem is, there is no men "out there." Every church, gym, volunteer opportunity, or other community event I've ever attended is full of other women with the few men present being dragged there by their wives. Most men would rather stay home with their video games and porn, I guess. I find most of the "male loneliness criss" …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 09:05 PM
9

Egg freezing and IVF are expensive so it's only very privileged people doing it. Also, not all friends are your friends. As great as my friends are today, parenthood brings a lot of stress. I could see this type of arrangement straining a friendship. Even if you have a great friendship, you'd need a good lawyer and paperwork in place as this could turn into a financial and legal nightmare fairly quickly if things go south in any way. Friendship doesn't offer the same legal protection marriage do…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 12:28 PM
2

Eh, they also aren't interested in those of us who are "submissive" despite saying so either. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 02:48 PM
4

Rich is subjective, but I've found money can make women a target in different ways. I briefly dated a so-called male feminist (they're not much better than the other guys, girls) who rejected me for not aspiring to make at least $100K per year and my wanting to be a SAHM (or at least work part-time or remotely while the kids are young) instead of a career woman. And said I was "limiting myself" by working remotely instead of outside the home and I wanted to be "peasant" by living a simple life a…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 01:56 PM
3

Cool, tell that to the doctors who tell new moms to abstain from sexual activity 6 weeks after giving birth. Or those with depression that affects their libido but could still benefit from the emotional support of their partner. Or cancer patients who are literally radioactive and cannot touch their partner at all, but again, still need emotional support from them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 07:52 PM
12

It's not the be-all, end-all it's made out to be. You need a relationship based on more than just sex to withstand the hard times. Bodies change with age and life events (pregnancy/childbirth) that may make sex more challenging, if not impossible.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 07:22 PM
1

I mean, I'll take that aesthetic over what the left has to offer any day.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 03:21 PM
5

I am in my mid 30s, white, politically moderate but right leaning socially, and health conscious (vegetarian, into yoga, etc.) so social media algorithms seem to think I'd be into antivax and tradwife content. I am single but aspire to being a tradwife. IRL, I'm in the weird limbo zone of being too conservative for the liberals and too liberal for the conservatives. While I am on their side, the anti-woke ladies see me as a threat for daring to be over 30 and single. I do not want their men. I j…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 03:07 PM
11

Oddly enough, I've met more conventionally attractive married moms who were "anti-woke" than neck beards. Go on Instagram as a woman of childbearing age and the algorithm will deliver.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 02:53 PM

Well, we haven't evolved to reproduce asexually yet. It's kind of how we, as humans, were designed (something something, Adam's rib). If we didn't, the species would go extinct. It's natural. We seem to forget that these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 01:54 PM
4

It's not as serious as moving for a job. And it's not guaranteed.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 10:53 PM
9

I feel like location has more to do with it. I live in East Jesus Nowhere. My dating app ranges are set to the max and still don't get much. My nearest big city is 4 hours away. I've considered moving for better dating prospects, but it feels silly to do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 09:07 PM
18

I feel this. I never had the desire to be a "Boss Babe" or "Career Woman." I only ever wanted to be a SAHM. I don't feel "liberated." I feel exhausted and like I've failed in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 06:35 PM
12

Eh, probably a mix of both. I was fat until I lost the weight in college (and managed to keep it off since then). But being fat and invisible to boys, while picked on mercilessly by other girls, tanked my self-esteem to the point where I was willing to take attention from anyone, good or bad, which is how I ended up in a (what I now realize) is an abusive relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 05:27 PM
111

Because a lot of us didn't choose this. As someone who is in her mid 30s and single, I'm not happy. I'm in this position as a result of bad luck, among other factors (living in a rural area I can't afford to leave. I was fat during my prime "high school and college". I lost weight but was in a what I now realize was an abusive relationship until he left. Then, the pandemic hit when I hit the wall (turned 30) and here I am. Also, I wanted to marry young. Problem is, nobody else did. I get not wan…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 10:27 AM
11

This! Money... Pay us a living wage. Give us maternity leave and affordable healthcare and childcare. Maybe do something about the housing crisis. I feel like this would make all genders more willing to have kids. If I had a dollar for every Peter Pan I encounter who bitches about the financial clock, I'd have my own financial clock built up. Maybe if money wasn't such an object, they'd actually want to settle down.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 07:51 PM

Unpopular opinion, but yes. What is being framed as sex positivity today is not it. If anything, it's degrading, especially towards women who may feel pressured to act a certain way to "get" and "keep" men. Express any discomfort or boundaries you've set and you're called a prude (even by other women), your own morals and comfort be damned. I find it ironic from those who crow about consent and women's rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 02:47 PM
1

Yes, because I want someone to share life and experiences I can afford with. Friends and family are great but they are not a substitute for a significant other.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 11:48 AM

Laughs as a woman who cooked, cleaned, and did all the things but he still didn't commit or found me boring and ignored or rejected me.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 04:00 PM
-1

Okay, but they wore dresses and suits to fly, didn't wear pajamas to go grocery shopping, and just generally took better care of themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 08:55 PM
3

Actually, I do. I think it's funny how standards for women have changed, but haven't really for men (just work).
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 08:50 PM
-2

What if what I want to do is live the 50s lifestyle? And I think today's fashion looks like it belongs in the dump when compared to the polished 50s look.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 08:22 PM
4

I'd go back to the 50s. I like having electricity and indoor plumbing, but modern dating and "womanhood" is for the birds.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 07:37 PM
-4

Yes! I don't feel "liberated" as a woman today. If anything, I feel more objectified. Relationships carried more weight, but especially marriage and sex. Also, I'm tired. Grandma only got to stay home with her kids. I have to "lean in" and look "smoking hot" while "having it all." I'd gladly give up all modern conveniences to go back to that era.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 07:36 PM
16

I think social media brought out the worst in humans regardless of gender. See the current state of American politics.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 12:11 PM
1

Yes. A partner who is much taller than me (6 ft.+) would just seem intimidating, which is kind of a turnoff. A partner who is overweight shows me they don't take care of themselves, also a turnoff. I also don't like men who are too muscular as I find big muscles to be kind of gross, regardless of gender. I'd prefer something closer to my own.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 09:16 PM
2

None...But sometimes, I do wonder if I should've listened more based on how past relationships turned out. I often wonder if Mom was right and I am being punished by God for being in "unequally yoked" relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 01:26 PM
6

OMG, yes, and improve the algorithm so we get what we want based on the info we input. I want kids and a real relationship. Apparently, that means I should be shown every guy who just wants a hookup, is childfree, or is "not sure" about marriage and kids despite pushing 40.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 09:51 PM
5

And that's a bad thing how? If we can "shop" for what we want, we're less likely to end up in bad relationships and with the "baggage" that comes with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 04:10 PM
4

It is! It has just been turned into another shitty swiping app, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 03:49 PM
3

Sometimes, that "allowance" wasn't consensual. SA is a thing and the body count talk can be triggering for those of us who didn't "choose" that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 03:48 PM
4

It's not only men using these apps. Also, we want the apps to be inclusive to everyone's needs by using more general categories that are specific, yet relevant to a relationship (age is a good example as most people don't want to date much older or younger) and not insult them as it will make them less likely to use them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 03:36 PM
5

I wouldn't include that because most adults are not virgins. However, I would include past relationships as it relates to one's relationship status (divorced, widowed, etc.)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 03:31 PM
8

Maybe? Though, I feel like body type is a "gentler" way to put it. Also, nobody outside of gym bros knows their body fat percentage. And BMI is a terrible measurement but somehow doctors still only use that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 03:26 PM
7

Okay, but 200 lbs. looks different on a 6 ft. tall athletic person (mostly muscle) than a 5'6 desk jockey (mostly fat). And photos would still be on the profile so you could determine if their body type is one you find desirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 03:15 PM
1

They're all the same! OkCupid used to be great and had filters. It's now just another shitty swiping app just like the others. There has to be a better way. If you're willing to develop such an app, I'd gladly pay you to do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 02:54 PM
2

And filters would reduce that. You can filter for exactly what you want instead of trying to impress someone who you have limited information about from their swiping app profile.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 02:44 PM
10

I lumped it into other important considerations as that's different for different people. Some people value education, some people value politics, and other factors. And yes, I'm fine with a filter for weight and body type. It's something I, as a woman, consider, as well. I like someone who takes care of themselves. And, no, I don't factor height as I'd prefer someone who is closer to my own height (5'4) or only slightly taller (5'7-5'8).
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 02:42 PM
9

Actually, I'm okay with that. Though, I'd phrase it as "body type" since actual weight doesn't really determine body type. I prefer more slender or athletic body types myself as that's what I have.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 02:38 PM
4

No, because the apps just show you everyone in your area (and beyond sometimes) regardless of your factors. Yes, in that I can swipe right on those who don't have what I'm looking for (I'm with you on the degree requirement) but I'm spending more time on swiping than anything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 02:37 PM
21

Filters for everything! Bring back the old OKCupid. Instead of wasting time swiping on hundreds of profiles, I want to be able to "shop" for what I want and get it. We should be able to filter based on age, sexuality (gay, straight, bi, etc.), relationship goals (marriage, hookup, poly, etc.), education, race/ethnicity (it's not racist to have preferences, especially re: cultural background), religion (specific faiths or none at all), and other important considerations.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 01:50 PM
1

Come teach at a title 1 school for a week. I guarantee a lot of the problems in education stem from women choosing the wrong man (single moms, academic and behavioral issues in boys from a lack of a positive male role model, etc.)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 12:57 PM
0

It's, for the most part, BS. Are there women who want the 666 guy? Yes. Do most women? No. Everyone has their own preferences in a mate regardless of gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 01:00 PM
1

I wear that pick me title proudly. If I had a dollar for every time I was called one, I'd be richer than the inventor of the iPhone himself.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 12:56 PM
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No, and honestly, I'm confused by those who do want to do so. It's 2024. Nearly everyone has a smartphone with Internet access and a camera. There are a lot of creeps out there who'd take advantage of this fact. I have no desire for topless photos of myself to end up in the wrong hands.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 06:13 PM
2

Actually, this tracks. Men are antisocial these days, it seems. As a woman, I am putting myself "out there." Problem is, there are no men "out there." Or at least not single men, as the men I see "out there" are married and being dragged there by their wives. I'm not a bar or club person, but even in other spaces (libraries, museums, farmer's markets, Meetup groups, church, etc.) it's' the same thing. They'd rather stay home with their video games and porn, I guess. Even men in relationships are…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 02:38 PM
2

IDK if victimhood is power. If you're in the states, I largely believe the "victim mindset" is what caused the Dems to lose the election. If it were power, they would've won.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 01:37 PM
15

Just the opposite. Life on easy mode. Even in 2024, a man can get any part of his home, car, or appliances fixed without being ripped off. He is taken seriously in any situation involving money. Think, dealing with banks and realtors / car salesmen when making big purchases like homes or cars. They're also more likely to be able to ask for (and get) a raise at work. And some families even treat sons better by giving them decision making roles about parent's end of life care despite the girls bei…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 09:00 PM
13

Not all of us. We are not a monolith. Some of us do want a relationship and a family. And think the whole single, childless women over 30 are happiest thing is a crock.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 06:30 PM
2

We exist. We're not all brainwashed by certain brands of internet feminism and political parties.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 11:56 AM
3

I'd say it's the culture. Moral decline is real. Marriage, commitment, and family are painted as bad things. Whereas hookup culture and freedom are more desired. From early on, young people (of all genders) are encouraged to build a career, travel the world, and experience life before settling down. Extended adolescence isn't good for anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 11:02 PM
11

I agree, it is contradictory, but I'm a woman who believes in the Billy Graham rule but that also that we need more men in education, so what do I know?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 03:55 PM

Church is not a country club for saints but a hospital for sinners. And there are plenty of good women in church. Problem is, y'all find us boring and reject us because we're not the "loose, fun modern woman."
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 01:34 PM

I don't think so, either, but all these men whining about where to find "good women." We exist. We're just at church.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 01:18 PM

Asking as a Christian girl who got fed up with the lack of options in church and started dating outside of the church in her 20s. It didn't go well, btw, so this is a very important question. Where are these single Christian men you speak of? Go to most churches and you'll find more single Christian women (women, period) than men. The few men there are married and were dragged there by their wives. If a man wanted to find a woman, he'd clean up at most churches.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 12:58 PM
1

Well, you're right. It is easier said than done. Nobody wants a commitment or a family anymore so here I continue to sit on the bench at 34 waiting to be called to play. I honestly would get an arranged marriage if one were available to boring ass white people. Look at the divorce rate in India vs America. Marrying for love is a failed experiment.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 10:58 AM
2

OMG, yes. I'm always confused when I hear these (mostly childfree) women talk about how men want kids. Who are these men? Where are they? How come I haven't encountered them in my dating life? Can you send them my way as someone who wants kids? Part of me wonders if it's some kind of myth, like Bigfoot. Also, to your other point, I want to ask these men who are hesitant about kids what they're so afraid of. Like, I'll be doing all the real work (pregnancy, breastfeeding, birth), be judged for "n…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 09:58 PM
2

If you'd prefer not to, say so. Don't lead this hypothetical woman on only to disappoint her later. There are plenty of childfree women who feel the way you do. If anything, I feel like the whole death being inevitable thing is more of a motivation to have kids, like leaving a legacy behind. And life being so (relatively) short and eventually ending is what makes it more special. I'd see a therapist about your death anxiety and please be open about your desire to not have kids. This hypothetical…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 04:39 PM
0

Eh, I'd argue the financial thing is also an excuse. Kids cost what you put into them. And you need to have good priorities around money. The financial clock is a crock. The hospital won't be checking your bank account for the right amount before you bring them home. Kids don't need brand new, brand name clothes, a trip to Disney, or the latest iGadget. They do need food, clothing, and shelter, and a lot more than you need booze, weed, cigs, or your hair/nails did. You also can raise kids in an …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 04:28 PM
2

There already are? Look at all of the "DINK" influencers on Instagram. Though, it's not entirely by choice as fertility rates are dropping. That said, I really wish people who have that goal in mind would be honest about it early in the dating phase. As someone who wants kids, I'm sick of being strung along by Peter Pans who are "not sure" or want them "someday, maybe" despite pushing 40.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 04:23 PM
4

Eh, I've encountered liberal men who have called me a player in my own oppression and rejected me for wanting to be a SAHM instead of a career woman. They also see me as a prude because of my old fashioned at best and bigoted at worst views of relationships and sex. And so many of them are poly.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 11:49 AM
3

I've been celibate for 6 years because dating is such a shit show. Good men are out there. I'm not going to give up my lifelong dream of having a family because of politics. I'm even considering moving out of a rural area to have a larger dating pool.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 10:00 PM
0

Maybe not a single session, but at least it would start to address some stuff that throwing temper tantrums on the internet wouldn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 08:29 PM
2

I'm more a conservative leaning moderate, so I get "my own" pool and now theirs (assuming they'll have me since people use politics to choose mates now).
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 08:28 PM
7

If it were a therapy session, it would fix the deeper issues that the folks part of the movement have for the most part. It does not. I'm a woman and I think this is all ridiculous. These women need real therapy to work on whatever issues they have. Is it normal to be wary of men in our world? Yes. Should you be pickier about who you choose to marry or be in any kind of relationship with? Also, yes. But not to this extreme. I'm low-key hoping it's not an empty threat so I'll have less competitio…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 08:18 PM
10

Not necessarily... I'm a moderate woman. I am in the fun limbo zone of being too conservative for the liberals and too conservative for the liberals. I just want someone who doesn't make their politics their whole damn personality or at least isn't a dick about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 03:12 PM
2

No, still dating to marry. Still politically moderate, leaning conservative (Didn't vote for him, so don't shoot). Really looking forward to less competition as the 4Bs remove themselves from the dating pool.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 02:32 PM

Ooh, you just gave me another way to "reduce" the competition by pretending to be a "girl's girl."
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 02:30 PM

As a single woman who is moderate (didn't vote for Trump, but was not a big fan of Harris either), I low-key hope these 4Bs follow through on their threats and remove themselves from the dating pool. It will be nice to have less competition.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 01:04 PM
6

I mentioned it because all of these people are talking about moving to Maine because we're a blue state and that somehow makes us the garden of Eden. We're not! We have our problems, too. Healthcare, expensive housing, and a lack of jobs come to mind. It's a rural problem not a red team vs. blue team one. Want a blue state with healthcare? There are plenty with urban areas and specialists. Hell, some Mainers have to travel to these places for care (Boston).
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 11:35 AM
28

This is it and part of why I'm considering a move out of my current home state. Our healthcare system has gone to hell. Many hospitals around the state have shut down their mat wards. And if you need a new family doctor, forget about it. Oh, and I live in a "blue" state but a very rural one (Maine).
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 11:25 AM
5

Hahaha... Express wanting to be a tradwife to a group of feminists and watch what happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 10:26 PM
6

I want to go back to the old days of chivalry and being a tradwife. I don't think we're freer under feminism. Grandma only had to stay home with her kids. We're expected to have it all.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 10:12 PM
4

Politically conservative, particularly socially conservative. Modern feminist thinking meaning man-hating and villainizing women who want more traditional things like families instead of careers.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 10:02 PM
2

I'm not a fan of modern feminism. I think it has strayed away from the original mission of supporting women and picked up every pet cause along the way along with a fierce hatred of men. I don't line up with modern feminist thinking, so I'm called a pick me, as are other women who dare think for themselves. I'm also more conservative and aspire to be a SAHM.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 09:58 PM
1

What they call a "pick me."
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 09:55 PM
-4

Not all women are feminists and misandrists. I am the furthest thing from either of those, and I'm a woman. We do exist. We're drowned out by a very loud majority.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 09:40 PM
-1

It can, but again, you'll get more support for being hit than being cheated on.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 09:32 PM
4

Women get victim-blamed for, well, damn near everything. Hell, we're even victim-blamed for being raped. I've been victim-blamed by so-called "friends," family, and church leaders for a lot of shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 09:27 PM
6

Neither, but if I had to pick, I'd take being hit over being cheated on any day. You can get over the physical pain of being hit a lot easier than psychological damage (depression, trust issues, anxiety, etc.) that comes with being cheated on. Also, I hate to say it, but you'll get more support for being hit from friends and family than being cheated on for a variety of reasons (you didn't meet his "needs," so it's your fault, don't be such a prude, monogamy is for squares, etc.)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 09:06 PM
1

By being "different" from other women and experiencing the treatment I do from them because of it. Not all men are incels and not all women are modern feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 06:16 PM
0

No, but hookup culture and modern feminism have.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 12:23 PM
8

The library, the bookstore, the museum, church (or insert your preferred house of worship), the farmer's market, volunteering (pick your cause - soup kitchen, animal shelter, etc.) I actually would love it if a guy would approach me in literally any of these places.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 08:03 PM
7

I mean, I'm not a partier. I'm not into hookups. I dress modestly. It's all hypocritical BS coming from the "I want a modest wife" crowd who don't really seem interested in that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 07:48 PM
4

Apparently 0
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 06:06 PM

I don't question his sexuality, but I would be less interested in him. I'm a moderate. I'm fine dating folks on both sides of the aisle, but just don't make your politics your whole personality and/or be a dick about it. I'm sure he would not be interested in me either, as we don't share common values (really, he'd say I'm a player in my own oppression as a woman).
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 04:57 PM
7

Beats me. My guess is because I don't literally show my ass on Instagram, have Grandma hobbies, and aspire to things like marriage and motherhood instead of a career or traveling.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 04:46 PM
2

I say we go back to the old way of doing things. Clearly, whatever we're doing is a failed experiment.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 04:35 PM
96

I don’t see very modest, religious women, with sweet personalities being chased, only by other very religious men. Sweet, modest woman, here. The religious guys don't go for us either, despite saying that's what they want. Nobody does because we're boring, I guess. Though, really, it's that men's words don't line up with their actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 04:10 PM
-1

Which would be great if we, as singles, didn't have to work 2x as hard to afford to live. The singles tax is real. I don't care about love anymore. I just want someone who can pay the bills.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 02:55 PM
1

Well, I kind of need a husband and one who is willing to let me stay home and not work. Most men don't seem to want that today.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 02:52 PM
1

Money isn't everything. I'd gladly give up all of my so-called "rights" and modern conveniences to not be stretched as thin as I am as a modern "free" woman. Having it all and doing it all is exhausting.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 02:48 PM
4

We really can't. The second shift is real. COVID shined a light on a lot of family dynamics where, despite both parents being home and working, mom was the default parent. I wouldn't be surprised if the "tradwife" movement is a response to how tired and stressed women are from trying to "have it all." I honestly often wonder if my grandmother had more freedom than I do as a modern woman. All she had to do was stay home with her kids. She didn't have to "lean in" and "have it all" and look "smoki…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 02:41 PM
6

Every one I've had any kind of a chance with, who I also liked. It's so damn frustrating.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 01:57 AM
35

Shy girl next door, here. I call total BS. If this were true, I wouldn't be 34 and single. I wouldn't be rejected for being "boring" and not putting out on men's timelines.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 11:03 PM
18

I'm an elder millennial. I've been called a prude before, which is the best case scenario as most men just get frustrated and disappear when I don't put out on their timeline.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 07:45 PM
71

Modest woman, here. We're damned if we do, damned if we don't. Though, I find it ironic how the men who say they want a modest woman don't go for us because they find us boring at best and prudes at worst. Oh, and how, if we did put out, we'd still be rejected by them and slut shamed on top of that. We can't win!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 07:36 PM
1

Moderate, but lean more conservative, especially re: social issues. I'm actually pro-police and find the whole abolish/defund the police thing ill-informed at best and actually dangerous at worst, but there needs to be accountability and stricter standards to become an officer considering the amount of DV and other issues in that particular profession. There needs to be more enforcement (and stricter punishment) of existing laws and policies re: sexual harassment, assault, DV, etc. and a cultura…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 02:15 PM
1

Unfortunately, yes. Not PC but it's a fact that women aren't as strong as men are physically. And we're more susceptible to things like stalking and sexual assault than men are. It's why I believe gun rights are women's rights. I know I wouldn't win an altercation with a much larger, stronger man unarmed. Problem is, I have this pesky depression that makes me a greater danger to myself than others if I have access to a weapon, so gun ownership is a bad idea. Otherwise, I'd have one without a dou…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 01:28 PM
1

No, but keep men unhappy. Honestly, I can attribute "happy wife, happy life" philosophy to why my parents ended up divorcing. Mom overcorrected by teaching me it was my duty to "keep a man." I think both parties should compromise for each other, as the "keep a man" method didn't work for me either.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 02:30 PM
1

Ha! I wish his advice was to keep me happy instead of "you, as the man, are the king of the castle" and "boys will be boys."
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 02:10 PM
0

IDK, but growing up in church, I was taught the opposite. My role as a woman was to "keep" a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 11:51 AM
1

Eh, asshole is kind of a strong word. They make poor life choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 02:10 AM
5

Rural America, so yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 09:02 PM
2

It's not just the egg. Basic self-care (hygiene, feeding, etc.) is something I look for in a partner. I'm just using the egg as an example.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 08:51 PM
0

Enlighten me. Tell me how my colleagues' partner who somehow made it to his 30s without ever boiling an egg or wiping his own ass (never mind his diaper-wearing child's) is her "dating up."
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 08:40 PM
11

Allow me to introduce you to all of my female friends, colleagues, and family members who are stuck raising man babies who they say "ain't shit" after telling me I'm too picky. And that's the best case scenario. We're not including the ones who have been abused, cheated on, or are one of 5 baby mamas.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 08:04 PM
0

Depends on the person... For me, it plays a major role. Though, I'm probably some form of sapiosexual. I'm more impressed by the short king with a PhD than the 666.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 01:39 PM
1

They both do! They both have one boy and one girl. I'm curious how they'll turn out.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 06:19 PM
6

Agreed... I taught before COVID and I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of the "issues" we're seeing in kids and teens (extending to young adults as well), is the product of online radicalization and social contagion.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 02:35 PM
3

I don't think so, but the internet and the "right" friends can influence people to do anything regardless of gender or sexual preferences. Social contagion is a real thing. See how many "self-dx-ed" mental disorders have cropped up and violent actions people have taken in recent years due to internet radicalization. I was a victim of online radicalization in my 20s, so know how it can work. I was anti-vax until COVID showed me a world without one vaccine. I was the perfect mark for certain types…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 02:19 PM
3

Honestly, I think it's a mix of being soured on men by her experience and influence of certain friends, political movements, and social media personalities. We have another cousin who went the same route, except she was married to her baby daddy and they divorced. They're both fairly liberal politically, follow similar social media influencers, and have friends in those circles.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 01:55 PM
4

My cousin (33) dropped out of nursing school at 20 to have her kids with a 3-month situationship that she ended up buying a house with but never marrying. They split. He left her with the house and kids. She turned out to be a lesbian despite being super boy-crazy in high school and college, so take that as you will.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 12:49 PM
7

Being taken seriously... At work, at home, and in dealing with professionals (tradespeople, car dealers, realtors, bankers, etc.)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 05:47 PM
17

Disagree... I think it protects all parties from a variety of different things, which is why I practice it myself. And I'm a woman with a professional career in web design and marketing. It protects men against false accusations (which do happen, though rare). It protects women from SA as most happens at the hands of people you know. It protects both parties and their partners from infidelity or any false accusations of it. I refuse to be alone with my female friends' partners without them prese…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 02:43 PM
10

Right? Like, this is supposed to be a bad thing? Especially in a world where you're lucky to even meet anyone IRL instead of having a months-long texting, sorry, talking phase.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 06:12 PM
2

Tell the Peter Pans whining about the financial clock that. You don't need to have a set amount of money in your bank account to get married or have kids. The hospital doesn't check your bank account on the way out the door with your baby like Costco does when you make a purchase. There are kids who grew up in apartments with parents who made less than 6 figures who turned out just fine. They cost what you put into them and you may need to make sacrifices to afford them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 08:36 PM
15

I mean, I feel like class also impacts how people approach dating and relationships. If I hear one more college-educated middle class to UMC professional in his 30s or 40s bitch about the financial clock, I'm taking him to visit my meth-infested hometown and making him explain that concept to my high school classmates who are unemployed, addicted to every substance known to man, and have 4-5 kids each. He would be laughed out of the room. You don't need a certain amount of money to get married o…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 07:27 PM
17

I think people get inconsistent dating advice regardless of gender, which is a contributing factor. Women, for example, are truly damned if we do and damned if we don't. Don't be promiscuous, but also, you need to put out by this date or he will get frustrated and disappear. Look "natural" but also put effort into your appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 01:13 PM
2

Tried that and all I got was disinterest at best and being called clingy and crazy at worst.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 05:54 PM
2

It's my experience. Honestly, IDK why I bothered trying so hard to be a good girl. Nice girls finish last.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 03:55 PM
3

Fun fact, men don't actually want the debt-free virgin (or low body count) without tattoos. I am such a woman and am 34 and single. They see us as boring and largely ignore us for the tattooed, materialistic harlots or reject us because we won't put out as quickly as they'd like. I just wish they'd be consistent about what they say they want vs. what they actually want. I want a debt-free (or low "good" debt, understanding student loans, mortgages, and car loans exist) man who doesn't have tatto…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 02:40 PM

Former fat person, here. Because in our society, fat = unattractive, especially for women. So, how do you avoid being fat (and therefore, unattractive) or lose weight? You exercise by going to the gym.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 01:05 PM
10

This is the case regardless of gender. Even as a woman, I'm a firm believer in not shitting where you eat. Hell, I don't even befriend my colleagues, because I know how quickly that can get messy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 02:35 PM
2

How about everyone uses their big kid words to talk about problems in their relationships like adults? Or, if you feel you need to creep on your each other's phones or request a DNA test in your relationship, maybe you shouldn't be in that relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 12:15 PM
10

No, but if I could guarantee that my depression doesn't get dangerously bad again, I would own a gun. It's called being smart about it. As a solo female and SA survivor, I believe gun rights are women's rights. Problem is, I had a very scary bout of depression around 6 years ago and access to a weapon would've resulted in a different outcome. I'm better now, but refuse to own a gun in fear of it getting bad again.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 11:53 PM

Cool, tell that to your comrades who lump us in with the crazies. We dislike the crazy ones as much as you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 03:08 PM

Conservative women exist. I happen to be one (well, moderate, but it's all the same to too many folks on a certain side of the aisle). Common values are a normal thing to seek in a relationship, which is what most folks are looking for.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 02:33 PM
1

Oh, I do... See the number of times I've been called a pick me.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 11:24 AM
-2

BS! I do not feel valued as a woman in the modern world. Men don't court us and chivalry is dead. My grandfather valued my grandmother way more than any man has ever valued me.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 11:10 AM
3

I'd say #2... I mean, I already do that. Even as an American woman, I've mostly dated educated immigrants from more family and education focused cultures (Hispanic, Indian, Middle Eastern).
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 09:17 AM
1

I think people need to use their big kid words and talk about their relationship issues like adults or go to couple's counseling. Also, if you feel you need a "go bag" or "secret bank account" or "paternity test" in your relationship, maybe you shouldn't be in that relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 08:58 PM
2

I grew up in a small town of 2,000 people and went to college in a "college town" of 30K people including 15K students who are only present seasonally (so our actual population is probably like 20K). I'm probably the only single 30 something professional in the town now. The guys in my small town were not marriage material. A lot of unemployment, addiction of all kinds, and multiple babies by multiple baby mamas. I'm sure most of the guys I graduated high school with are in prison or dead by now…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 12:31 PM
4

That's how it should work, but it doesn't. And I do live in a small town. My guess is a lot of them did move after college as I got stuck in the small town I went to college in because I couldn't afford to leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 12:13 PM
3

Again, calling BS. I've been dating to marry since high school. Guys didn't want to be tied down back then either, which I now get. But, by 30, you should be ready for something real.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 11:48 AM
16

I call BS! As a woman who dates men, I've yet to encounter one who truly wants marriage and kids. Most are "not sure" or want them "someday, maybe" despite pushing 40. It's frustrating AF.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 11:11 PM
3

I'd include that as part of social emotional learning as well. By identifying your own emotions, you can identify others' as well (protection from toxic relationships regardless of gender). I'd also argue hygiene is important for all genders and how to interact with them. Hell, I've worked in places that specifically mentioned showering and proper hygiene in their employee handbooks.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 12:10 PM
5

Dating specific education? No, but some social-emotional learning would go a long way in this area. Learn to identify and express emotions and interact with people of all genders.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 11:27 AM
2

Right? Makes me want to scream! Let's ignore how every moral system is against this shit. Most developed countries' laws banning polygamy on the secular side and the 10 commandments stating "thou shalt not commit adultery" on the Biblical side.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 03:26 PM
1

Right? We express our dislike of this BS, we're called backwards at best or bigots at worst. I actually had a falling out with a friend over this BS. What happened to good, old fashioned morals and values? I hate it here.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 03:21 PM
2

Have you seen poly/ENM people? Most of them are far from attractive! I'm no Victoria's Secret model. I'm average at best, but I seriously wonder how a blue haired landwhale can pull multiple partners while I can't even get one.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 03:00 PM
1

I'd say the opposite. I have no desire to "share" my partner. I wish I could be one of those "liberated cool girls" who is okay with just hooking up and ENM or whatever TF the new dating trend is, but I'm not. I'm an old soul who wonders if she was just born too late and I'm sure there are others out there who feel the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 02:26 PM
3

I live in the northeast US, actually, but in a more rural area. White with a conservative Christian upbringing, so probably the demographic you have in mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 01:44 PM
1

Mediocre people of all genders... As a straight woman, I really hate how a few "bad apples" have "spoilt the bunch" and I get lumped in with them. I also hate how men seem to prefer those "bad apples" over the "good apples" who do everything we're told to be a "good apple" and get nothing in return as a "good apple" myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 08:25 PM
4

Babies don't sleep through the night for at least 6 months on average and sleep deprivation can be dangerous. Also, cancer treatments often last longer than six months, so can other mental/physical health issues. All of those things and supporting your partner through them are way more important than your "sexual needs.'
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 07:37 PM
4

It's their child, too! And pregnancy, childbirth, and breastfeeding really do a number on womens' bodies. A good parent would understand that and be willing to make sacrifices to care for the child. After being up all night with a newborn, sleep comes before sex. And a birthing body's healing should come before a man's "needs."
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 07:05 PM
4

Not the #1 cause, but it's a factor, especially for women. I was fat during my "prime" (high school/college) and was basically invisible to boys. I lost the weight and managed to keep it off in the 10 years since college. I look better now than I did then but have less of a dating pool as I'm in my 30s and everyone is married. That said, there are plenty of fat people of all genders who are happily married, so it may not matter as much as we think.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 02:16 PM
-1

Sometimes, things happen right after marriage. Honeymoon babies are a thing. You can be hit by a bus at any time. You need to have a relationship with a strong foundation that goes beyond the physical for that reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 01:39 PM
0

Bodies change and age as we go through life (especially female bodies with pregnancy/childbirth), often, in ways that make sex more difficult, if not impossible. That's why you need a relationship with a strong foundation (emotionally, etc.) that isn't just based on sex. Your relationship will not last through these often tough times (pregnancy/childbirth, serious illness, aging, etc.) otherwise. See the men who leave their wives when they get dx-ed with cancer or those who are whining on TikTok…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 01:23 PM
3

In a perfect world, this would be the case, but we don't live in a perfect world. I was SA-ed in a parka, jeans, and turtleneck. However, I also realize that how you dress determines the kind of attention you receive and the support you get if you are assaulted (namely, the "what were you wearing?" question). I live in a college town with a large retiree population. It makes me so nervous to see college-aged girls go to the gym in tight short shorts and just sports bras with creepy old men aroun…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 07:42 PM
3

Because for women, it's used by other women to keep us in line. "Women supporting women" is largely BS. Those who crow loudest about it tend to accuse other women who don't agree with them on everything as having internalized misogyny or being a pick me.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 09:26 PM

I'm also the youngest unmarried person there as a young professional who lives in the sticks.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 02:58 PM

Well, I would if they weren't all married.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 02:57 PM

Well, no single men. There's plenty of married men who were dragged there by their wives or nagged to go by their doctors (in the case of the gym and the number of folks my age with heart disease).
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 01:24 PM

I think it's a way to say you should expand your social circle. As a single woman, I'm "putting myself out there." Problem is, there are no men "out there" even in the places I'm told the good men are at (church, library, gym, etc.) My guess is that single men my age (30s) just prefer to stay home with video games and porn than have actual hobbies or social lives. You want to meet good women? The bar or club isn't where it's at. Go to church, go to the library, attend a lecture at a nearby unive…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 01:09 PM

I was also a 24 year old virgin who lost it to the person she thought was "her person" who ended up leaving her. Yeah, we can't win. We don't put out? We're prudes. We do? We're sluts.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 07:11 PM

Well, I like having female friends, problem is, most women don't want to associate with a "pick me" and "slut shamer" who is a reasonable woman with morals IRL.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 03:53 PM

I fully acknowledge that it's an issue regardless of gender. I personally feel like those "Peter Pan" (Patty Pan?) women ruin it for the rest of us. I can't express that without being accused of slut shaming. What is ideal is we go back to the old way of doing things where folks married right out of high school or college and had families young and grew up/built together.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 03:47 PM

I've been "ready" since my teens. I've only ever dated to marry, even as a teen, but it seems like nobody wants that anymore. While I get not wanting to be "tied down" in high school or college now, by 30 you should be ready for something more serious.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 03:42 PM

Kids cost as much as you put into them and you should also have get your priorities straight around money when you have them. I taught at a Title 1 school before COVID. Your kid doesn't need brand new, brand name clothes and the latest iGadget. They need shelter, clothing, and food, all that matters is that it's safe. Plenty of kids live in rented apartments just fine, you don't need a house. That said, they need food and shelter more than you need booze, cigs, weed, hair/nails did, or other vic…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 02:37 PM

I feel like I'm kind of in the same boat. I grew up rather religious and sheltered, so was a late bloomer. I did have a relationship in my mid-late 20s, but he left and I've been struggling to find someone else since.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 02:27 PM

No, but I'm saying you don't need to have a PhD, own a house in a suburb of a major city, and be making 6 figures per year.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 02:24 PM

I feel like this is location dependent. I live in East Jesus Nowhere. Everyone here settles down right out of college or high school. All that's left are addicts, Peter Pans, and divorcees with 2.5 kids and baby mama drama.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 01:59 PM

Or they can't find the right person. Modern hookup culture has destroyed dating. I want to be married with kids. I wish I could say the same about the men in my dating pool. I'm 34 and single. I'm so fed up with Peter Pans who are pushing 40 and still just looking for "fun" or "not sure" about wanting kids or marriage or want them "someday" or some other vague BS. The modern dating/hookup culture enables them. Never mind how you had two whole decades to sow your wild oats and it's time for you t…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 01:52 PM

I don't think it's necessarily normalized. See the amount of shit I get for being one year away from 35 and childless. What is normalized and will make things worse is the "expectation" to be in a certain place before you settle down and have kids. Meanwhile the people who would be good parents (educated, employed) aren't having kids or having fewer later on while those who have no business having kids are breeding like bunnies. The next Peter Pan who bitches to me about his financial clock gets…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 01:44 PM
1

I mean, I don't disagree. I'm the neat freak and health nut of my circle and I get a lot of shit for it. Apparently, taking care of yourself and your home is countercultural these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 12:41 PM
3

No kidding. I swear, anyone who got into and stayed in a relationship before 2018 truly caught the last chopper out of Nam. No, Mom, I can't just meet a nice boy at church. There aren't any boys there. Come see for yourself sometime. Also, you haven't dated in literally 40 years and your relationship with Dad was a shit show. And online dating isn't just for axe murderers anymore. Everyone does it. Also, to my friends who got together with their high school or college sweetheart, the dating pool…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 08:56 PM
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IDK, I've heard more shitty advice from married folks that could keep one single. I will never not find it funny how my friends, relatives, and colleagues will call me "too picky" in one breath and complain about how their men "ain't shit" in the next. Looking at you tells me exactly why I shouldn't "lower my standards." If anything, y'all should've been pickier about who you picked to do life with.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 02:14 PM

You kind of need sugar for that. A lot of us got taken to the cleaners when "our people" left.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 07:51 PM

Well, what about us Gen. X-ers and Millennials who are still stuck in this hell we call dating? What are we supposed to do? Some of us didn't find our person "on-time." Some of us had a person but they left us (either through divorce or death).
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 07:48 PM
10

Because we get called clingy or crazy if we do.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 04:03 PM
1

I'm 34 and single. I don't care about love anymore. I'd gladly sign up for an arranged marriage and make do with what I get than continue being single.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 12:29 PM
2

I mean, yeah. As much as I'd like to be a SAHM, I know that I'll likely still have to work after marriage because life be expensive.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 12:04 AM
3

Yes and no. Like, I know I'm better off alone than in an abusive relationship, but that doesn't mean I'm not lonely or don't still desire a relationship even if they don't check every box.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 09:21 PM
5

I feel the roommate thing. I did it in college and never again. Also, I'm now at the age (34) that I have to wait for the divorces to start and the nests to empty before hopping back on the roommate train. I'm sure my girl friends will be getting lonely and need an extra income to pay rent once their husbands leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 09:20 PM
5

As a straight woman, I can tell you that on our side, it's a battle to avoid being used for sex. We also get ghosted when we don't put out or whatever dumb reason guys do it for. And honestly, that's preferable to the blatantly sexual messages and dick pics.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 09:18 PM
9

Nobody wants a commitment anymore. Marriage and birth rates are down. Depression and loneliness is up. Everything's fucked and everyone sucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 09:11 PM
7

Okay, but our lives are worse when we're single today because everything is so damn expensive and the dating market still sucks. I'm at the point that I don't even care about love anymore. I just want someone I can split the bills with. I'd gladly sign up for an arranged marriage for this purpose.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 09:01 PM
3

The States are not a monoculture. I guarantee that the single tech worker making 6 figures in San Fransisco is doing better than the average single person in East Bumfuck, Maine. You have more options for dating, regardless of gender, if you are in a large city. This is especially the case for college-educated professionals. What we need to do is focus on building those rural areas in the states by bringing jobs to them or at least the infrastructure (broadband, housing, etc.) to allow folks to …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 05:22 PM
8

I wish that were the case. As a woman with an advanced degree (master's in education, but I don't use it as I've left teaching) I find a lot of men find that intimidating. I downplay my achievements saying that I "just work in web design" now. I'd gladly trade my intelligence for being smoking hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 12:26 PM
3

Problem is, the mask only comes off when it's "too late."
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 07:27 PM
10

There's also bad men who are really good at hiding their shit so they appear to be "good" men. Just look at how many "good, Christian men" turn out to be abusers of all kinds.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 05:38 PM
17

Actually, yes, I am. I think it's degrading and very few women truly choose to do this kind of work and are forced (either directly via trafficking or indirectly via poverty) into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 08:32 PM
27

Marital rape is a crime. Enthusiastic consent is necessary for any encounter, even in a relationship. Also, this attitude has been weaponized by the church and other authority figures towards women. As a girl who grew up in church, I was taught sex was my duty to keep a man. I'm still working on unlearning that shit in my mid 30s.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 08:26 PM
66

Traditional woman, here. They don't pick us. They find us boring or get frustrated with us when we don't put out. But also bitch about and slut shame "modern women" who do put out. You can't win.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 11:21 AM
7

I'd argue the opposite. School, as we know it, is perfectly designed for girls, which is why so many boys are failing. As for parents, they tend to be harsher with girls but more permissive with boys because "boys will be boys."
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 01:04 PM
13

Yes! I was a teacher before COVID. I saw the crisis we're facing with boys in education firsthand.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 11:07 AM
0

Yes... It's called the great replacement theory.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 01:28 AM
2

I mean, it's a bit antisocial and humans should talk to each other as it's what we're designed to do. However, if an AI girlfriend keeps certain violent and abusive men away from taking those behaviors out on human women, I'm all for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 01:11 PM
1

I'm single, but before marriage, it's a matter of being wise in your interactions. Like, I refuse to hang out with my friends' spouses without them present.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 03:08 PM
0

Grew up that way but still see value in a lot of those teachings, even if I'm turned off by a lot of the shenanigans that churches, especially in the US, have pulled in recent years.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 02:57 PM
-2

I believe in the Billy Graham rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 01:53 PM
0

Most concerning - 6. Most acceptable - 1. Unpopular opinion, but men and women are different. Having same-gender friends is normal and healthy. We can relate to those of our gender better than those that are not. Having opposite gender friends can open the door to shenanigans. I'd prefer if my partner not have female friends. I don't have male friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 01:43 PM
2

Okay, but you don't need to be super wealthy to have kids. Kids cost as much money as you put into them. They don't need brand new, brand name clothes or the latest iGadget. Also, kids can live comfortably in an apartment, you don't need a house.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 03:21 PM
8

Right? Hell, part of me has considered taking up a heroin habit just to find my person and start a family. Next Peter Pan who starts bitching about his "financial clock" on the apps gets to come with me to the poor, meth-infested area where I grew up and explain to my high school classmates that they needed a certain career/amount of money to have kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 12:54 PM
11

Not necessarily... The poor folks around are never single. They also have 4+ kids and counting on average. The middle class + have a harder time to date and if they're lucky, maybe get 1-2 kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 11:18 AM

I am American. And yeah, marriage and kids are on the way out here, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 07:55 PM

I'm a western white woman and I don't get this shit either. It's part of why I'm single. That said, we're not a monolith. Those of us who are sane get drowned out by certain (louder) voices.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 07:35 PM
1

Yes, we are, but I find a lot of the accusations come from other women. Yes, I'm 34 and single. No, I do not want to steal your gross man baby. I just want to be your friend. And please stop calling me picky in one breath while saying your man ain't shit in the next. If anything, you should've been pickier and I think it's funny how you're telling on your creepy man.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 05:25 PM
16

Kids and stress, but especially kids, are valid reasons for less sex to happen. The female body goes through a lot of changes during pregnancy and childbirth. Bodies of all genders age and become ill (cancer, heart conditions, etc.) which can also lead to less sex. A relationship based on sex will not survive those tough times and they are stressful. Visit a maternity ward, a retirement community, and a cancer ward to see for yourself. One that has a strong foundation beyond the physical will, w…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 10:56 PM
3

I'm the last of my friends to have kids, so I think they do have a point about the whole "no kids" thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 04:30 PM
6

Right? I'm a woman and I'm the "neat freak" of my circle. They give me shit for it or say "it's because you don't have kids. Wait until you have kids." Which, is such BS. You're the adult. Set the rules so they don't turn your house into a war zone. Somehow, magically, it's never their fault. There's a reason I no longer do potlucks after COVID revealed my colleagues' hygiene habits or lack thereof. If your cat's ass is on your desk, it's probably on your kitchen counters. Also, I hate asking (f…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 01:00 PM
10

Sure, a lot of men are slobbish, but I was a camp counselor in college. The girls' dorm was a hell of a lot grosser than the boys'. This was a college-prep camp that took place on a college campus. Girls had piles of laundry and other shit all around their rooms. The bathrooms were disgusting. I would regularly find used maxi pads stuck to the walls of the shower stalls. People of all genders can be slobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 12:31 PM
3

They're friends. They're family. It's BS!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 11:12 PM
6

By not enabling the creeps by not letting them around the young girls, to start. And if something does happen, believe the young girl when she comes to them and punish the creep appropriately for his actions instead of blaming the girl or denying it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 07:49 PM
21

These aren't "underdeveloped males," they are grown ass men who should know better than to sexualize an actual child, especially since many of them have their own children.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 02:22 PM
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I'd also add more covert "warnings" from the adult women (moms, teachers, etc.) who were supposed to protect them about how to dress and act around certain male relatives and "friends." Which, I'd argue is way worse than catcalling. Funny how the rule was "change your clothes, there's men in the house," not "men who sexualize my kids aren't allowed in my house."
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 01:41 PM
0

If anything, I see the blame being placed on other women. Feminism and the women's lib movement was started by women, not men. Unfortunately, it's been twisted since the beginning. Now, I'd argue, benefits men more than women and has strayed away from the original mission by picking up every pet cause along the way. I do not feel liberated or empowered as a modern woman, but objectified and exploited at every turn.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 07:19 PM
4

Ugh... Seriously, though, I do not understand this new trend of being insecure about the appearance and other features of one's vagina. Had this shit existed when I was a teenager, I'm sure I'd have had that piled on top of my other body image issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 09:25 PM
9

As a woman, I will never understand other women who are fans of rap music, even female artists. WAP was written and produced by female artists. I do not find it "empowering" but degrading (or at least leaning into the objectification of women that we should be speaking out against). Actually, I find it all so degrading towards women. That said, perhaps consider expanding your musical horizons away from such artists if it bothers you so much. Vote with your wallet and your feet.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 07:16 PM
4

I think everyone of all genders should be their true selves from the get-go. And be clear about their intentions. The lying, vagueness, and masking are among the top reasons dating today is such a shit show.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 05:12 PM
21

There's a limit, though. Like, people could use a little more humility today. However, there is such as thing as cripplingly low self-esteem and confidence. I've struggled with it for most of my life and finding a balance is hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 01:14 PM
14

The typical "experience" of the modern young woman. Not all of us who are single in our 30s spent our teens and 20s riding the cock carousel. Some of us were religious good girls with a very low body count (if one at all), which came from committed relationships were were in during our 20s-30s where he left us for some reasons (didn't want to commit, found someone "better/hotter," etc.) Also, not all of us are feminist boss babes choosing to be childless cat ladies. Many of us do want marriage a…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 12:58 PM
3

Not women they know in my experience. As a 30 something woman, I've never reached out to anyone from high school or college. To be fair, I was fat and invisible back then, so no boys showed me any attention. That said, they do "fuck zone" women in their 30s by not wanting a commitment and stringing us along, all the while "running out the clock."
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 03:08 PM
7

Oof, if I had a teenager today, this is probably the approach I'd take. I taught before COVID, particularly computer classes. I've seen and heard some shit. Between the body image issues (skin care girls), porn addictions (especially in boys), and political extremism (on both sides), joining an Amish community and raising kids in it is looking tempting.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 01:19 PM
4

I'm an elder millennial, so we're the first generation to have access to the internet (and all that comes with it) at a young age. Though, social media was only becoming a thing when we were in our later teens. That said, I feel like I'd have had even worse body image issues than I'd had to begin with in my teens and would be taking expensive, and possibly dangerous, measures to make myself more attractive to boys. There are so many studies on the impact of social media on teen girls. And they'r…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 12:14 PM
79

IDK, I think people of all genders settle to a degree. See all of my female friends, colleagues, and relatives who in one breath call me "too picky" but in the next bitch about how their men "ain't shit." Like, maybe you should've been pickier.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 02:18 PM

So, leave planet Earth? That'd be cool if I could afford space travel. I do actually want kids. I just can't find anyone who also does.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 12:08 AM

I will tell you the same thing I tell the well meaning relatives who ask me why I haven't given my parents grandkids. I kind of need someone to do that with.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 10:05 PM

Same (only child), but from what I can tell from my mostly male colleagues and men I've dated, they don't get anywhere near the amount of shit girls do about this, because purity culture, misogyny, and all that BS.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 09:41 PM

You're truly damned if you do, damned if you don't. Exhibit A - The switch that flipped in my parents the day after my college graduation when they went from "Don't even look at a boy or you'll get pregnant and die!" to "Where are my grand babies?"
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 08:50 PM

I'd argue the opposite. We put motherhood on a pedestal. As a single woman without kids over the age of 30 (not by choice), I'm seen as "less than" because I don't have kids. I'm seen as less of a woman, hell, less of an adult by my family, peers, and society at large.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 08:32 PM
16

Gifts on a first date, even small ones, are a bit much, IMHO. I'm with you on waiting for sex and dating to marry. We need to go back to those "old" ways. Same with coffee dates. Let's meet IRL and talk (not text) in a low-pressure setting (coffee shop).
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 01:21 PM
3

A sex-free but otherwise romantic relationship... The emotional stuff is way better to base your relationship on than the sexual. Bodies age and go through changes (childbirth) that make sex more challenging, if not impossible. A relationship with a foundation that isn't based on sex will survive those often difficult seasons (pregnancy, childbirth, cancer, aging, etc.)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 09:49 PM

Friends are great, but they are not a substitute for a family or a spouse. I also have a lot of trauma around other women, so generally do not trust them. I've tried to find a relationship "organically" but that seems to not be possible today.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 12:57 PM

I work remotely in web design. I have traveled for work, but otherwise can't afford to do so on my own. I do have friends, but don't see them as much as I'd like as they're all busy with their families. I'm the last single one left. I used to do volunteer work before COVID at my local Y and community theatre. As much as I put myself "out there," men don't seem to be "out there." Though, I have mostly "Grandma" hobbies (knitting, yoga, reading, etc.) That said, I've debated taking up more "male d…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 12:36 PM

I'd say we should stop telling singles of all genders this. As a woman, I'm so sick of hearing how I'm supposed to be so happy as a single without kids or how I should focus on myself first. The whole childless single women are the happiest demographic thing is BS. I do not feel happy to be in this situation. No amount of pets, hobbies, or vacations will change that. I want a family!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 10:21 AM
6

My guy, I've been accused of that so many times that if I had a dollar for every time I was, I'd be richer than Musk and Bezos combined.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 09:06 PM
19

HAHAHA.... As an actual demi woman, I call BS. Explain this to all of my female peers who had hoe phases in our teens-20s while I, the religious good girl, had "such good willpower" that turned out to be how she was wired. Also, to all of the dudes who get frustrated and disappear when I don't put out as quickly as they'd like (but would also slut shame me if I did). We just can't win!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 01:37 PM
38

Not all of us do.. as the lifelong victim of mean girls, including my own mother, I have a healthy distrust of other women. I have even had mean girls pretending to be my friend. Between that and the MLM huns, a woman being nice to me is sus. The idea of living among all women or in a matriarchy sounds like hell on earth to me. I do not find my gender superior.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 10:50 AM
1

I've done all the things... Church, gym, volunteering... There are no men there!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 10:43 AM
-1

Well, that'd be great if I could find a guy who was also willing to settle.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 07:41 PM
-2

No. Fun doesn't pay bills or support a family. I'm too old for fun and the Peter Pans should be, too. I've been dating to marry since high school. Clearly, it has not worked. I get not wanting to be tied down in high school or college but by your 30s, you should be ready for something real. You've had 2 decades to sow your wild oats. Grow TF up already!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 07:11 PM
-5

Attractive doesn't matter. Money talks, BS walks. See Elon Musk, Donald Trump, and every other gross billionaire who has multiple baby mamas, all of whom are fairly conventionally attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 06:31 PM
-3

She gets to be a SAHM and he makes more money than Christ himself working for a major tech company, funding her luxury lifestyle. I'm stuck working a shit job for shit pay. Who do you think is happier?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 06:26 PM
-3

Honestly, at this point, I'll take it. Pursuing "love" has been a failed experiment. At one point, arranged marriage was the norm and still is in other parts of the world. I don't care about love as much as the social and financial benefits of marriage. And I see sex as a means to an end (having kids) than a desire for its own sake. My ex went back to India for an arranged marriage and landed someone hotter than he could've pulled on his own. They're still happy with 2 kids 6 years later. I'd le…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 06:10 PM
2

Yes, because the worst mean girls I dealt with were those who pretended to be my friend. Frenemies are a thing. Also, most women who are nice to me now aren't really looking for a friend but a downline for their MLM.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 12:17 PM
2

Not true... As the lifelong victim of mean girls, I have a healthy distrust of other women and feel no attraction towards them. I have to carefully vet any potential female friends and even at that, I can be suspicious whenever a woman is too nice to me. Apparently, that's internalized misogyny.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 11:25 AM
5

Ugh, I think people of all genders should be able to approach people they're interested in like adults. While I like the idea of being pursued as a woman, no guys are pursuing. Yet, if I try to express interest in a guy, I'm called clingy or crazy. I can't win and it sucks!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 07:58 PM
9

Teaching social skills from a young age and providing opportunities IRL to socialize are two big steps we can take. IDK that women created this problem, it's a societal and systemic issue, which will require such solutions.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 06:44 PM
40

People abandoning dating apps. I hope it will lead to a return of IRL dating and social opportunities. Or changes to the apps to make them more useful. Either way, I feel like something good will come of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 05:43 PM

I think everyone, regardless of gender or intention, should be honest about their intentions from the get-go in dating to avoid wasting everyone's time. Nobody wants to be strung along or lied to.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 05:07 PM
0

Honestly, I don't care about having a house or x amount of money before kids. Those things can work themselves out and our ancestors raised kids in caves.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 09:42 PM
4

And it's annoying AF. Like, I wish we could make our intentions clear from the get-go and stop wasting each other's time. I'd love to be open about the fact that I want kids right away (actually need to have them sooner rather than later at 34), but don't want to scare off any potential matches.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 09:00 PM
3

I mean, maybe? But at that point, I might as well just adopt/foster on my own or go to a sperm bank.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 08:59 PM
6

Honestly, I have my doubts. Maybe there are men who want kids out there. As a straight woman, I have yet to encounter one in my dating journey. Most are "not sure" or "open to it." It's a fun game of, are they really open to kids or lying just to get laid? Also, by your 30s, you should know. I get a 20 something new college grad being unsure about kids but a 35+ year old man?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 07:47 PM
3

Yes, actually. I want to be a SAHM. I don't want to be a corporate girly or boss babe. I like the idea of "serving" my man. Apparently, that's unpopular today.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 07:21 PM
-1

Bold of you to assume they initiate dates. In my experience as a woman who dates men, it doesn't happen. Men today expect women to do all the emotional labor, including planning dates. At the same time, they call women clingy or crazy for asking them out. It's exhausting AF. I want to be pursued the way my grandma was.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 06:55 PM
12

Exactly! I've noticed a lot of these boys looking for love in all the wrong places and finding it in Tate and Co.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 07:51 PM
5

It's a problem for both men and women. We need both parents to raise their kids with respect. We also need more male role models for young boys who can better teach them how to respect women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 07:46 PM
14

I went through middle school as a girl in an actual school. I also taught middle school as an adult woman (oddly enough, my subject at my last teaching gig was actually computer science). And, yes, their behavior is abhorrent. It's part of why I left teaching. I was tired of being disrespected. I'm not brushing it off as "boys will be boys," but something needs to be done. I'd rather fix a child's behavior than have them carry that shit into adulthood and get worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 05:50 PM
19

Not openly... But education is not a friendly environment for men. Female colleagues and parents tend to be suspicious of them
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 05:09 PM
30

I was a teacher before COVID. I have a Master's in Education and child development. Facts don't care about feelings. I really believe it should be mandated that everyone substitute teach, especially in a Title 1 school, for a week. It would open a lot of eyes and hopefully get a lot of shit fixed after.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 02:52 PM
110

It's a systemic issue. In the process of trying to "leave no child behind," a lot of children, especially male children, ended up being left behind. I actually felt for my male students when I was still teaching. The education system isn't designed for them. Most teachers are female, so not many male role models around. Many of them are products of single moms (or mom being the default parent if dad was in the picture). It's no wonder they worshipped my male colleagues while disrespecting me and…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 02:33 PM
2

Right? While I wouldn't be interested in the rest, # 3 actually is appealing to me. Though, as a woman, I'm a bit old fashioned myself (which gets me called a pick me). I like the idea of my man "wearing the pants."
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 11:56 AM
4

No. She is still very much active. She just got elected into a higher position than she previously held in parliament. And was the subject of a recent act of political violence among other scandals.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 12:26 PM
2

Eh, it depends on the level of celebrity and how known they are in a particular region. My college roommate's sister is something of a celebrity in their home country. She is a well-known member of their country's parliament. She often comes to the states to visit her sister and we hang out. She and I are both single while my former roommate is married. This disappoints her. She asks me about the dating scene here because she would have a better shot at finding someone who loves her for her here…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 12:12 PM
4

Ideally, yes. I have a master's, but would like my potential partner to have at least a bachelor's.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 08:11 PM
2

My standards are already in hell. Employed, educated, proper manners/hygiene, doesn't beat/cheat on me, wants kids. Apparently, that's too much to ask.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 07:32 PM
0

Well, it sucks! If anything, I'd argue my grandmother had more freedom than I do as a modern woman. She wasn't expected to "lean in," "have it all" and look "smoking hot" while doing it. All she had to do was stay home with the kids. I'd gladly do that instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 02:21 PM
1

I wanted to be a "child bride." At least in the modern definition... I wanted to marry right out of high school or college, stay home, and have a big family. Nobody wanted that it seemed (and still don't, I guess).
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 02:20 PM
0

What freedom? To work a job where I'm overworked and underpaid while still being expected to work the "2nd shift" at home? If that's freedom, I don't want it. And choice? Well, since I'm 34 and single, clearly, I've done a crappy job making choices for myself and would gladly hand that off to someone who knows better.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 02:17 PM
3

Modern woman, I do want to marry and it seems like the men don't. This is totally accurate. See all the 35+ year old men still just looking for "fun" despite having a full decade+ to sow their wild oats.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 02:13 PM
1

I mean, makes sense. Though, curious how this plays out in countries with more men than women (think China w/the one child policy and gender-selective abortions).
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 01:59 PM
3

HAHAHA... It's totally not. If it were, I'd have been married 15 years ago, I'd have 4 kids (and be done with that season of my life) and wouldn't be dealing with this shit now. Men ultimately are still the ones who "pick" women and I haven't been "picked." Or, at least not been a "keeper."
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 01:53 PM

I work remotely, which is part of the problem. I also live in a small town where people settle down right after high school or college, so being over 25 and single is an oddity here. I'm average looking at best. The dating market sucks. While I know I'm better off single than in an abusive relationship, I can't truly say I'm happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 12:00 AM

34 and probably going to die alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 11:56 PM

Not well... Basically ignored it seems or just seen as an object to use for sex. The dating market past 30 sucks. Find your person now before it's too late.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 11:53 PM
4

Well, I never intended to be single and childless in my 30s. Honestly, I just want to live whatever time I have left in relative peace.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 07:42 PM
1

Sexual assault happens to girls and women more, so does domestic violence. And that's on top of good old fashioned misogyny.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 01:16 PM
2

The world is a much scarier place for girls and having to prepare them for all of that. You don't have to do that with boys (or at least, not as much).
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 01:07 PM
5

Boy, without a question. My parents resented me simply because I wasn't a boy. While I'm not trans, I would gladly change my gender if given the opportunity. Despite it being 2024, male privilege is still a very real thing. Also, boys are easier than girls to raise.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 12:18 PM
13

My own, because this shit is depressing and destroys your self esteem.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 10:18 PM
7

I like the emotional aspects and human connection involved in a real relationship too much to even make that a desire for me. I've gone without sex for 6 years because I haven't formed a relationship with someone and there's nobody I have that desire for as a result. So, no, I don't want a sex robot. A robot that cleans my house and cooks my food, however? Absolutely!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 08:54 PM
1

It's possible for kids and teens to be creepy. See the stats around teen dating violence and SA on college campuses. However, generally creepy behavior is more common among older men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 10:08 PM
0

Behavior and words... Ask any female retail or food service worker who hits on her most.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 10:02 PM
9

Women shouldn't have to do this, but unfortunately, we don't live in a perfect world, so we have to. I know clothing means nothing when it comes to SA from personal experience. I was SA-ed in a parka and jeans. I live in a college town that also has a decent retiree population. It makes me so damn nervous to see college-aged girls at the gym in just sports bras and tight shorts/leggings when there are creepy old men about. It's not that I think the clothing they're wearing will cause them to get…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 06:51 PM
1

I was with an immigrant, so there were cultural elements as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 11:41 AM
0

I'd say it's bad advice for everyone regardless of gender, disability, or other identity in 2024. "Don't shit where you eat" has been long-standing advice for a reason. A lot of companies have policies in place regarding colleagues dating one another. You could literally be risking your livelihood.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 07:11 PM
6

I was the lifelong victim of mean girls. I'm the furthest thing from a girl's girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 11:05 AM
5

It takes a lot of effort and people just don't want to bother. I was a fat kid until I lost the weight in college. I found exercises that worked for me. I also taught myself to cook and started to eat real food instead of the processed shit my busy, divorced mom kept at home. I was motivated to not be the fat kid in college, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 07:15 PM
1

I'm average, at best, so I have no idea why their husbands would even have any interest in me to begin with. And, no, it's not flattering. Their men aren't that desirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 02:47 PM
2

Because, for reasons I'll never understand. The married women around me seem to think that I am interested in stealing their gross, pudgy man babies. I have no such interest and think it's a form of projection. Like, they're telling on their creepy men. Though, in their shoes, I'd be more concerned about my man being a creep than the single woman who just wants to be my friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 02:26 PM
5

Friends are good for you. Also, the rejection and feeling of being an "other" does wear on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 01:39 PM
5

If I could afford to, I would. Unfortunately, I am stuck in East Jesus Nowhere because "Where the Singles Are" is expensive.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 01:38 PM
2

A few? Try nearly all of them. Oh, and forget about making new friends as a single woman over 30. Other women will see you as a potential mark for their MLM at best or a threat to their marriage at worst. Despite you having no desire to steal their gross man baby.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 01:22 PM
1

I don't see it as giving up my livelihood. If anything, it'll increase it as I'll be seen as more "serious" and "mature" instead of a dopey college kid, despite being in my 30s.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 01:10 PM
6

Social currency... Despite it being 2024, women are still seen as "less than" if they're not married by a certain age by family, peers, and society at large. We're seen as immature at best or a threat at worst. Many of our friends "abandon" us when they get married and start hanging out with only other married folks.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 12:57 PM
6

You agree with them 100% on everything. You look a certain way. You live a certain way. And if you don't toe the line 100% expect to be shunned and ridiculed.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 08:09 PM
6

Modern feminism and mean girl BS... Which, ironically, is supposed to be about women choosing the paths they want for themselves, including being a tradwife (or SAHM, or career woman, or whatever she wants to be). Apparently, a lot of so-called feminists missed that memo. Also, mean girls don't go away after high school, they just grow up and find new shit to pick on other women for. And despite crowing about "women supporting women," that "support" comes with conditions. If I dare bring this up…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 03:51 PM
1

That's great, if you have an employer that provides you with insurance or no other expenses that $100 per month could go towards. Rent is around $2K/mo. in most places now. If I have to choose between eating or going to therapy, I'm going to pick food.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 01:42 PM
4

And that's why so many of us high value women are single and gave few friends. We're not as "fun" at best or we are considered by other women to be "pick mes" and by men to be "frigid" at worst.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 10:02 AM
2

IDK, but it's a really privileged take, especially in the States. We don't have socialized medicine, so therapy is hella expensive. Not everyone can afford it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 07:24 PM

Yes, for children of all genders with a focus on health (no plastic surgery but diet, hygiene, and exercise focus). If my parents hadn't kept so much junk food in the house and made healthy meals, I wouldn't have been fat as a young girl. I lost the weight in college but I think of how much better my life would've been had I not been a fat kid. They were the adults who bought and cooked the food, my weight then was their fault. I know it's fat phobic, but I plan to do everything I can to not hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 11:50 AM
1

Yes! Which, are, I'd consider, extreme cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 02:58 PM
9

I don't think age gap relationships necessarily "trap" someone. Someone who is in a relationship with another person their age is just as likely to be abused. Abusers come in all ages, genders, and sizes. Teen dating violence, perpetuated by fellow teens, is a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 02:12 PM
10

In extreme cases, yes. We've come a long way since even 50 years ago, but we still have a ways to go. you live in Saudi Arabia or another country that is less friendly to women, you're more likely to be "trapped" in a bad situation. In the States, Canada, or another more "modernized" country, only in cases of severe abuse (financial, physical abuse, etc.) is a woman truly "trapped." Most women in these places work, have an income, and there are laws to protect them (as flawed as they may be). If…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 02:05 PM
4

Not the sole reason, but skinny privilege and fat phobia are real. Also, after 18 years of being picked on for my weight, by God, I wasn't going to be the fat kid in college either.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 10:55 AM
6

So, me, in high school, before I lost the weight in college? Been there, done that. There's a reason I lost weight in college.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 11:56 PM
2

This, too. Like, I know I'm better off in my current position than being in an abusive relationship, but that doesn't mean I'm truly happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 07:01 PM
8

This sums up my experience as a single, childless woman perfectly. I've lost so many friends to marriage and motherhood, and it's damn near impossible to make new ones. Also, you're still seen as a "kid" by society, despite being very much an adult. I'm in my mid-30s, but I'm still seen as a dopey college student by my family. As a result, I don't really feel like a full adult yet. It sucks!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 06:37 PM
6

Not sure if you're being sarcastic but in church settings, there's definitely competition among the single women to get the attention of any single man who walks through the door. The lack of men is part of why so many women, especially young and single women, are leaving the church.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 11:21 PM
3

I live in a small town, but there are more single women than men, so easier? Also, teen - 20 something male religious goody two shoes me would've had an easier time as there were more single women in church than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 10:37 PM
3

It's a modern social construct created by social media and the expectation to always be "on" and share everything. While I'm all for breaking the stigma around mental health and other issues, I feel like we've gone too far in the other direction. You don't need to have an opinion on everything and share it on social media. Some things are better kept private. We've forgotten that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 03:19 PM
0

I'm not even that old and the dump truck trend confuses me. A big butt was something to avoid when I was growing up in the 90s.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 08:16 PM
1

Not Marilyn Manson, Monroe. Google her.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 07:49 PM
0

Ugly is in the eye of the beholder. By today's standards, Marilyn Monroe would be considered fat/ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 07:43 PM
3

I feel like celebrity worship happens regardless of gender because we're fascinated by the rich and famous. Fan clubs have always existed for celebrities of all genders. Female celebrities have stalkers. In a more consensual setting, surely, some of the celebrities who entertained troops through the USO have been approached by and even slept with service members. Or Playboy bunnies at mansion parties. I personally don't get the whole celebrity worship thing (or celebrity hall passes for married …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 07:39 PM
3

Well, it hasn't worked as I'm still single to start. But, getting few matches and the few I get turn out to be creeps, disappear after they don't get what they want (just sex), never ask you on a real date (endless texting, sorry, talking phases until they get bored and disappear or only want you to come to their place for Netflix and chill - just sex), and so much more.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 09:45 AM
17

IDC who messages first. What I care about is not spending all of my free time swiping on a stupid app and getting nothing but disappointment. Bring back filters and the ability to "shop" for what I want and get it like I was able to on the old OKCupid. We should be able to tailor our searches based on our desires and lifestyles.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 09:06 PM

As others have mentioned, that having a career as a woman and focusing on your self, your education, and your career is "empowering." I often question if I really am freer than my grandmother was. Modern women are expected to "lean in" and "have it all" and look "smoking hot" while doing it. Grandma only had to stay home with her kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 07:19 PM

34, I know, I've "hit the wall" and I'm going to die a miserable old cat lady. You don't need to remind me. Go after the so-called men who are still looking for fun at 35+.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 06:39 PM

Parents, teachers, peers, society at large.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 06:28 PM

I want to do that. I'm trying to find someone to marry. I've been trying to find someone since high school but nobody seems interested in a commitment anymore. I get not wanting to be tied down in high school or college, but by 30, your wild oats should be sown and you should be over just looking for "fun" like a lot of the men out there are now.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 06:28 PM

I am a woman and I actually agree with him. I feel like I was lied to and that a lot of the reason we're so depressed and miserable now is because we've strayed from our original "purpose."
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 04:50 PM

Same, and I'd also add, regardless of gender. As a straight woman, I can tell you there are men (on both sides) who make their politics their whole personality and it's equally annoying. I'm a moderate, so I have the fun of being too liberal for the conservatives and too conservative for the liberals. It makes dating way harder than it needs to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 03:23 PM
9

A fair amount, especially in more conservative cultures. I grew up in church during the height of purity culture in the 90s-00s. As a girl, I was taught that boys and men were oversexed wild animals and it was up to me to keep them under control. I was taught to dress and act a certain way to keep them from stumbling. As an adult, I realize that's a crock of shit. I was SA-ed in a parka and jeans by a family friend. It pisses me off because the rule was "change your clothes, there are men in the…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 04:05 PM
7

Also, China with the one-child policy and preference for boys. They now have more men than women, which has had some "interesting" results. Mostly, I see any "off" ratio leading to a population decline.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 01:26 PM
4

By not being part of that shit. I get called a pick me and player in my own oppression. IDGAF. The ones who crow about women supporting women are often the biggest mean girls and I want to run for the hills whenever I hear that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 10:39 AM
5

I'm a woman and I agree. I think the modern idea of bachelor(ette) parties is gross either way. I'd be fine with a classy night out with friends (dinner, wine tasting, spa day, etc.) for mine. However, it's more than just the strippers and penis themes (which I still find gross) for me. Last night of freedom? I'm assuming, unless you had an arranged marriage, you've been dating your spouse to be for some time. You haven't been "free" since you started dating them. And if you really see marriage …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 01:38 PM
1

IDK, the mean girls who picked on me in school and as an adult were pretty open about their hatred of other women, myself included.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 11:36 AM

Yes, I agree that parenting does play a role in the current dating scene, but not in the way you'd describe. I was a teacher before COVID, so I saw the effects of all kinds of parenting. I taught at a Title 1 school, so most of my students were the products of single moms or Mom was the default parent if Dad was in the picture at all. Boys didn't have positive male role models at home or school as most teachers are female. As a result, they looked for love/guidance in all the wrong places and fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 03:16 PM
0

Professional = people who work during the day, so can't socialize at that time.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 10:55 PM
1

No, but the job market is, I'd argue, just as bad as the dating market now. And you get shamed to hell for job hopping.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 03:30 PM
2

There are supports in place for single moms if this happens (WIC, food stamps, etc.) If a single career woman without kids is let go from her job, she's fucked. Despite being taxed up the ass to pay for such supports, you can't access them if you fall on hard times because you don't have kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 03:07 PM
1

Everything's fucked and everyone sucks... Not a song, but a lyric from one.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 02:28 PM
2

I am mad. It's been six years, so I've cooled off a bit. Though, it's also a matter of questioning if it would be worth living in hell as he was controlling and emotionally abusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 01:35 PM
7

I know that and I'm fine with it. Once I'm married, I believe my body belongs to my spouse.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 01:33 PM
10

I feel like attraction grows over time. I'm also demisexual, so building an emotional connection matters more to me than physical. Also, I see sex more as a means to an end now (having kids and keeping a man) than a desire I have for it's own sake.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 01:30 PM
3

I don't see serving a husband and family as oppression. I'd argue I'm far more oppressed serving a boss who could fire me from my job tomorrow and leave me with nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 01:25 PM
2

I'm not a feminist. Actually, as a woman, I often question how much good feminism did do for us, especially today.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 01:05 PM
8

Right? Honestly, it seems like a better alternative to the hell that is dating in the modern western world. Hell, I'd gladly sign up for an arranged marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 12:57 PM
2

No, shit. Meanwhile, I'm stuck in dating hell and working a shitty job I hate while she gets to be a SAHM and live high off the hog.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 06:27 PM
15

Speaking from my own experience, because your self esteem is low and you feel like nobody else will want you. And the dating market is a shit show that will send your self esteem even deeper into the hole.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 06:09 PM
5

This tracks. He has a PhD in computer science and is now an AI/ML researcher with IBM. He was a software engineer for a smaller company at the time, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 11:08 AM
24

In the case of my ex, an arranged marriage, seriously. He went back to India and his parents got him a Victoria's Secret model. He is the furthest thing from a Calvin Klein model you can imagine. Skinny, kind of cute in a nerdy way, but sure as hell not the type to land his current wife. Hell, I'd leave myself for her if I could.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 01:48 AM
5

Not all of us do. All the reasons you list that women love it are the reasons I don't as a woman. I also have an overactive gag reflex and it's a bad time for all involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 12:29 PM
10

I'd argue those of us over 30 who really want to be moms would be better parents than those who just had kids "by accident" as teenagers or early 20 somethings. We are "picky" because we want an equal partner in raising those kids, not another child to parent. Men have a part to play in this as we face a dating market full of men over 30 still just looking for "fun" despite us being ready to settle down since 18-22. I get not wanting to be "tied down" in high school or college, but your wild oat…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 02:50 PM
1

It's complicated and something I'm working on after growing up in church during the height of purity culture in the 90s-00s. I need an emotional connection before a physical one and only "perform" in the boundaries of a committed relationship. It's not the basis of a relationship for me, but how I'm treated as a human is. Growing up, I was taught that sex was my duty to keep a man and was done to me, not for me. If I'm honest, I still kind of see it that way along with it being a means to an end…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 01:09 PM
1

Not SMV, but fertility, would be my concern, especially with a girl. As an older (34) single woman, I know having kids may not be in the cards for me, or if it is, it will be harder than it would've been in my 20s, including the risk of having a child with Downs or other birth defects. Also, men lose fertility and run the risk of fathering children with autism with age, so I'd encourage a child to marry and start a family young regardless of gender. I actually wanted to marry young and have a bi…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 08:43 PM
2

For the most part, yes. My liberal colleagues are downright mean. They think I'm the devil incarnate and have no problem telling me so. Meanwhile, most of the conservatives in my life will just call me a "libtard" and move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 01:41 PM
1

As a moderate woman, I'm open to dating guys on either side of the aisle as long as they're not dicks about their beliefs or not openly racist or sexist. Unfortunately, today, people are so polarized that they refuse to date or befriend moderates because we're the devil incarnate, I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 11:44 AM
1

#2, but can be another event besides a sporting event.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 03:05 PM
5

Yup! It's not PC. I've been called a misogynist and homophobic for even suggesting this. And I'm a woman! I also have a master's in education, so I know my stuff. I taught at a Title 1 school before COVID. Most of my students were products of single moms or Mom was the default parent if Dad was around. I'd love to see these SJWs substitute teach at such a school for a week. I'd imagine they'd change their tune pretty quick after dealing with all the behavioral issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 09:25 AM
5

Because we live in an oversexed culture. You can't win, especially as a woman. Don't do hookups? You're a prude! Put out? You're a slut! Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 11:14 AM
10

Probably most. Most women don't appreciate having their time wasted.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 01:25 PM
18

No, I'd argue it's because men don't want to commit and just want sex while the woman wants a relationship, so he strings her along until he gets bored and moves on.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 01:15 PM
3

If my parents are any indicator, they are stuck together by their mutual child and create a hostile living environment through constant bickering and resentment until the eventually messy divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 05:57 PM
5

Well, apparently this is not want men want, otherwise I wouldn't have been single this long!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 08:36 PM
6

My parents were divorced. My mom was very much a tomboy (not into dresses/makeup, cooking, crafting, or other traditionally feminine hobbies) and very much the nagging wife stereotype to the point of being aggressive/emotionally abusive towards my dad (and me). Seeing how terrible my parents' relationship was, I became something of a submissive pick me, which is probably why I'm attracted to men from more traditional/patriarchal cultures. I figure if I "follow the rules" unlike my mom, who was a…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 08:10 PM
1

True, but it shouldn't be this freaking hard!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 05:11 PM
1

Yes, but I should be able to filter folks out who would not be a good match.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 03:51 PM
2

Christian dating apps aren't much better. A lot of Christians sure don't act like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 03:50 PM
2

I believe in the traditional monogamous marriage model morally. Even the Bible says "thou shalt not commit adultery" and polygamy is illegal, so it's not just me.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 11:09 AM
21

IDK, I'd call wasting my (and other folks') time swiping through all the couples looking for a 3rd on dating apps when some of us are just looking for one person pretty shitty.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 07:50 PM
33

No, because most of the "choices" provided by online dating are not good ones. If I find a good guy, I'm committing to him. I'm definitely not going to long for wading through piles of shit including, but not limited to, abusers, fuck boys, and married men (poly and cheaters).
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 06:49 PM
1

I think double standards are hypocritical and shitty regardless of gender. It's 2024. Most women work and have their own money now. Also, the obsession with body count is gross.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 06:48 PM
4

I, as a woman, believe shitty behavior should be called out regardless of gender. I get called a pick me and player in my own oppression for this.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 10:01 PM
5

Dick pics, for one. Messages that are graphically sexual from the get-go. And then, "nice guys" who flat out insult you and threaten you for rejecting them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 09:57 PM
6

It can be. There are some abusive women out there, including mothers, partners, and other authority figures. Tying it to my observations of boys without male role models, their mothers and female teachers would nag or punish them for well, being a boy. Boys tend to be more hyperactive and are punished for more behavior problems at school by mostly female teachers. As a result, they develop less respect for women. My male students disrespected me and other female teachers but worshipped my male c…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 09:37 PM
5

Basically, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 09:16 PM
16

Abuse and neglect, particularly, at the hands of one's parents or other authority figures. A lot of the misandry I observe in women in my circle (myself included to some degree) comes from being abused physically, emotionally, and sexually by the men in their lives (fathers, brothers, partners, etc.) I went from an emotionally abusive relationship to being sexually harassed on dating apps in my attempts to find another healthy relationship and am starting to question why I even bother. I was als…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 08:39 PM
5

Right? Also, I wonder what's going to happen to these Gen Alpha girls using retinol at 9.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 08:50 PM
4

Hahaha, nope. I've had plenty of right swipes that were not matches. And many that I did match with that turned out to be creeps. And all genders have to pay for features like filters and seeing who likes you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 08:39 PM
4

Every single app is garbage, especially if you live in a smaller town.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 08:33 PM
9

Actually, I'd (34F) sign up for this. It'd be way better than the current online dating model. I feel like people who'd sign up would be more serious about finding a commitment, so less time is wasted on weeding out creeps who just want sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 08:29 PM
4

I'd say Vietnam was more like the modern passport bro situation. Most men were drafted and lonely. My dad, now deceased, was a Vietnam vet. So many of his peers fathered children with Vietnamese women while deployed. I had a colleague at a previous job who found such a half sister through 23 and Me. It inspired me to take the test myself as an only child who always wanted siblings. No half siblings have showed up yet but I'm still holding out for one.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 11:45 AM
9

Modern arranged marriages do allow people a degree of choice. And at this age (34), I don't care about cute as much as more practical things (commitment, family, etc.) Marrying for love/attraction is a relatively modern concept. And FWIW, my ex's wife (arranged marriage) is way hotter than anything he could've bagged on his own (myself included).
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 03:15 PM
9

Me! And I'm a woman. I'd probably have my friends and family arrange it. I've done a crap job of picking my own partners, so why not give them a shot? It seems to be working in India. My ex went back to India for one and is happier than ever with his wife and 2 kids 6 years later while I'm still stuck in dating hell.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 02:58 PM
13

Answering as a woman, if my partner were doing this, I'd prefer not to know. However, I doubt that's been the case since most of my female friends and colleagues are married moms who are not the most conventionally attractive. Though, the idea of my partner fantasizing about me when we're apart (I travel for work at times) is kind of hot and I would very much encourage that behavior. Is it possessive? Maybe, but I'd rather they do that than fantasize about a stranger. On the other hand, I'd also…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 05:34 PM

Yes! As a woman who's basically been forced to date outside the church due to a lack of men at church, please, come on in.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 04:06 PM
8

IDK why everyone says Hinge is better. It's a shittier version of Tinder. I'm in a small town, so not many people on it. Most on it are looking for hookups and couples looking for a 3rd. No, thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 01:38 AM
13

Because the rest of us women don't want them either. As the lifelong victim of mean girls, I don't trust other women enough to be in a relationship with one.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 11:52 AM
1

I'm in the states in a college town near two hospitals and a research lab. We import a lot of students and educated professionals.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 12:03 PM
11

Right? Like, I'm no Victoria's Secret model, but damn. How are these land whales getting multiple partners and I can't even get one?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 09:41 PM
38

Because of all the freaks clogging up dating apps and wasting my time. Some of us just want one person. You have a person already. Don't be greedy!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 08:59 PM
5

It's worked for me as a so-called pick me woman who is also highly educated. So, why not? I get men who see my education as an asset while also sharing my more traditionally conservative social values. It's the best of both worlds.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 02:40 PM
3

God, do I wish it were that simple... If that were true, I wouldn't be in my mid 30s and single.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 05:18 PM
7

Hindu... But close. I've also dated Muslims thinking it would be somehow better. It was not.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 02:11 PM
5

Sub yoga for golf and you're the male version of me. I'm the 30 something girl next door. Men don't seem to want that, I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 10:58 AM
9

No, I'll admit I've done it. Has it bitten me in the ass? Maybe. As a 20 something single Christian woman fed up with the lack of men at church, I started dating outside of church. Would I have rather found a guy at church? Yes. Would I prefer to marry a Christian? Also, yes, but there are no single men my age at church. My most serious relationship was with a non-Christian who ended up leaving for someone who shares his faith. They're happily married with 2 kids and I'm still single 6 years lat…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 10:37 AM

Swift, AFAIK, never drugged and robbed men as a sex worker.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 08:17 PM

Agreed. Like, I'd much rather my kid look up to Taylor Swift than Cardi B.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 08:00 PM
-1

Or approach me in a social setting. I don't even get approached there. Like, ask me my thoughts on that art exhibit at the museum. Ask me for book recommendations at the library. Talk to me as I have my coffee in the church cafe before service, and maybe offer to sit next to me during? And be cool with my answer either way. Anything but the hell we currently live in.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 12:20 PM
-7

No, we're not. It's frustrating because we get called clingy or crazy if we try to take matters into our own hands and approach guys. But they don't approach us? I want to be wooed and pursued like my grandma was by my grandpa.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 12:07 PM
5

Yup! Also, misogyny, SA, DV, and just general mistreatment of women happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 01:23 AM

They may. Their mamas don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 05:18 PM

My ex was from India and left me for an arranged marriage. They're happier than ever with their 2 kids while I'm stuck in dating hell 6 years later. I've considered it but know I'd be laughed off the site.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 05:11 PM
-1

My parents are not the kind of people who should've ever married. They were the confirmed bachelor and bachelorette aunt and uncle until I came along and ruined their fun at 40. They were also very argumentative, Mom especially. I thought I'd do better as I'm more meek and submissive than mom.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 05:06 PM
1

Do it! Hell, I wish it were an option for white, Christian Americans.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 02:47 PM

Well, yes, I do mean manners.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 02:07 PM
9

Good old grandpa looked at your granny one Sunday morning in church and boom they were engaged to be married? I mean, kind of? Or at least were engaged in a shorter period of time spent exclusively courting with intentions to marry than literal years. They didn't "play house" for like 10 years before getting married or have a months long "talking phase" that ended up leading to nowhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 01:23 PM
9

I'm not an atheist or a liberal. Not all women are and those who are call me a "pick me" and player in my own oppression for desiring traditional dating and marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 01:20 PM
15

Respect, chivalry, commitment... Dating to marry instead of just to hook up. Going on actual dates instead of texting until they get bored and disappear. Going steady instead of situationships and the "talking phase" (which is a stupid name, because you're not actually talking but texting) Shall I go on?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 01:12 PM
7

I'm not a bar person, but I really wish my Mom didn't lie to me and say I'd meet a nice boy at church. I think she was just trying to get me to go to church and used the possibility of meeting a nice boy as bait.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 01:10 PM
10

Arranged marriages /s Seriously, fixing the shit show that is modern dating would go a long way. I want to do dating and courtship like my grandparents did instead of whatever we're doing now.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 01:02 PM
2

Housewife! I never aspired to have a career (or work, period). I only ever wanted to be a SAHM. I only went to college as divorce insurance at the urging of my parents (divorced themselves) and teachers. Life had other plans, unfortunately. However, I'd gladly leave it all to become a housewife if I could find someone who'd be willing to be a provider. I've viewed every job I've held as temporary. Apparently, that makes me a pick me and player in my own oppression, according to other women. I do…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 11:57 AM
46

No, shit. I was the lifelong victim of mean girls, including my own mother. As a result, I have a healthy distrust of other women. Apparently, that makes me a pick me with internalized misogyny.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 12:41 PM
1

Well, personality and looks are what I seek for a relationship. I do require an emotional relationship before a physical one.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 08:36 PM
5

I work in tech. There's definitely less BS than I dealt with while I was a teacher, but not zero.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 11:33 AM
70

Mean girl behavior from grown ass women. I was a lifelong victim of mean girls. I was picked on mercilessly all through school. I thought it would get better in adulthood. It hasn't. Mean Girls don't go away after high school, they just grow up and find new shit to pick on other women for. As a result, I now have a healthy distrust of other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 10:25 AM
15

Consent, hygiene, and respect (towards my body and boundaries).
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 02:35 PM
3

Church, school, my parents...
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 02:19 PM
8

To be fair, I was also taught that sex was my duty to keep a man and as an adult, men disappear when I don't put out as quickly as they'd like, so...
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 01:40 PM
7

Hahaha... Yeah, no. I'm in my 30s. It'd just be weird, sad, and gross at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 01:39 PM
9

I mean, maybe it's religious programming, but I wish I'd waited for someone better. And I did wait for a committed relationship. He just turned out to be a raging misogynist and emotionally abusive until leaving me for someone hotter. Though, I also wished I'd "hoed around" in high school and college to "practice" for future relationships. Maybe I wouldn't be single in my 30s if I did. It's complicated growing up in purity culture and dating as an adult in hookup culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 01:14 PM
2

I've always engaged in this. If anything, I was way stricter about it when I was younger as I was a religious good girl in high school and college who grew up during the height of 90s-00s purity culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 05:44 PM
13

33, female, single, I still very much practice the 90 day rule. And probably longer as I like having a commitment before getting physical. Usually men disappear by then as they get frustrated because I won't put out. These same men would also slut shame me if I did put out. You can't win!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 04:44 PM
3

Yes, because I live in a predominantly white conservative Christian community. I was told I got what I asked for by being in an unequally yoked relationship when my ex went back to India for an arranged marriage, so...
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 06:16 PM
2

Right? It's also why I'm not easily offended. It really doesn't get much worse than your own mother calling you a whore.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 01:23 PM
5

Dating is such a shit show, I'd gladly sign up for an arranged marriage, even if it's drafted.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 01:07 PM
27

My parents divorced before I hit that age and I was too much of a good, submissive little Christian girl to try to "take over" but according to my mother I became the whore of Babylon when I hit puberty.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 04:04 PM
84

I'm the lifelong victim of mean girls. I don't trust other women as a result. I do not defend the sisterhood because it hasn't done shit for me. Hell, even my own mother bullies me because she sees me as competition, I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 02:45 PM
2

My parents got together and had me at 40, but they'd run in the same circles most of their lives. They lived in neighboring small towns and Dad was Mom's brother's best friend, which is how they'd met. It was a resentment filled hell for all involved. So, I do think you can be too old and "set in your ways" for marriage and kids past a certain age, which I realize is not the modern, feminist POV.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 04:58 PM
4

Anecdotally I'm starting to see some of these Xillennials start to divorce and one thing I can say about them is that they have extremely amiable divorces and coparenting when there are children. I notice this as well. My boomer parents' divorce was downright ugly! I wonder if this plays a role as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 04:18 PM
5

Yes, I'd say the dating market and behavior does play a role. I'm one of those 30 something childless singles and not by choice. I would've gladly married and had kids right out of high school or college as a good Christian girl. Nobody wanted to be "locked down" then, which I now get as an adult. However, by 30, your wild oats should be sown. I'm disturbed by the number of men 30+ still just looking for fun on dating apps. Like, grow TF up already!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 12:49 PM
9

True, but if you look at crime statistics, women are more often the victims of sex crimes than the perpetrators.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 02:09 AM
5

My parents had me at 40 and I'm fairly healthy. I'm 33 and single. I'm afraid I won't be so lucky. I do live in a state where I can legally terminate a pregnancy that tests positive for Downs' or other defects. However, not everything can be tested for. Also, people forget that the cute, albeit funny looking baby with Downs will grow up to be an adult requiring round the clock care. Also, abuse is rampant in facilities for people with disabilities. I couldn't die peacefully knowing that my child…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 12:45 AM
13

When it comes to physical safety, I agree with you on this. Like, I'm more comfortable being alone in an elevator or other space with another woman than I would be with a man I don't know. I also prefer having a female doc for this reason. However, physical safety and psychological safety are different. I know another woman won't rape me, but still wary of mean girl behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/24 11:49 PM
126

Not all of us do. As a lifelong victim of mean girls, I have a healthy distrust of other women. Of course, I get called a pick me with internalized misogyny if I say that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/24 11:47 PM
4

I mean, I'm not thrilled about my tax dollars going to run a charity for the whole world when we have people starving in the streets in the states but I know I have no control over it and there's equally dumb shit my tax dollars are being spent on at home.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/24 06:46 PM
5

I believe in complementarian marriage, which, some call subservience.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 10:52 PM
30

Conservative leaning woman, here. I feel like it's because we are self-centered, but not in a bad way. Like, we focus on what goes on at our own house (literally and metaphorically) instead of trying to save the whole world. My liberal colleagues seem bloody miserable based on all their virtue signaling. I went on Facebook to see how you and the kids are, not what's going on in Israel or wherever the hot spot is now. Like, honey, you're not going to end the war with your social media posts. Mayb…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 10:45 PM
2

Absolutely not... My dad and his side of the family dealt with that demon. I got away as soon as I was old enough. I do not want to bring it into my own house.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 02:12 PM
41

Right? Like, have you seen the TV show Hoarders? It never ends well for the cats.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 01:28 PM
12

Female... If we put out, we're sluts. If we don't, we're prudes. We're expected to work like we don't have kids when we do and raise those kids like we don't work. No matter what we do, we're damned if we do, damned if we don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 02:46 PM
-1

I'm forced to work now and I'd rather be forced to marry because dating is such a shit show that I'd gladly sign up for an arranged marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 05:15 PM
38

Yes, but I think it's more tied to my personality type. I'm an introvert. I'm not a party person (or a bar/club person). I do prefer more laid back social settings (library, farmers market, coffee shop, etc.) Boring is relative. Like, someone who enjoys clubbing would find me boring and I'd be annoyed with them. Meanwhile, someone who is also more introverted would get along with me and agree that night clubs are a circle of hell.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 09:04 PM
5

To a degree, yes. Think about how we talk about college and careers to girls. Girls are encouraged by parents and teachers to go to college as divorce insurance because that SAHM will be screwed once her husband leaves or dies and she has no way to support herself. As a result, we have a generation of women being taught they "don't need no man" who shit on other women who do want to be wives and mothers. I've been a victim of both of these as a woman. My parents told me to go to college as divor…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 01:58 PM
2

This is the case regardless of gender. Female version: Go to college and get a career before settling down so you can support yourself if/when your husband leaves/dies. And while you're in school, don't even look at a boy sideways or you'll get pregnant and die! The day after college graduation, the same parent who gave you advice #1 asks you where their grandbabies are
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 05:19 PM
3

Ooh, this, too. I was the victim of pull a pig pranks in high school. Now, whenever anyone of any gender says I'm attractive, I get suspicious.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 02:42 PM
5

Ooh, almond moms... We also have terms like that and social media trends that feed into making the former fat kid experience worse for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 02:21 PM
16

Female... I'm a female former fat kid. I'm now in my 30s and lost the weight 10 years ago in college. I was picked on mercilessly for my weight growing up, including by my mom. As a result, there are still certain articles of clothing I can't wear (two piece swimsuits). I have a healthy distrust of other women. I also have a terrible relationship with food (no snack food in the house so I don't eat it). I don't have kids but based on my observations of friends with kids, the changes to my body f…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 02:14 PM
2

Not even female dominated spaces. Hell, I've gone to restaurants and bars with friends and noticed the same. Like, they often drag their spouses along and the spouses look bloody miserable. Looking at other tables, other couples look the same or there are groups of girlfriends having a great time.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 05:29 PM
7

Hobbies and interests... Maybe it's me, but I find most social settings are female dominated. I see way more women of all ages/marital statuses going to the gym (especially classes like yoga), at church, volunteering, joining book/craft clubs, or just out in the community. Meanwhile, the men I encounter out have usually been dragged there by their wives or girlfriends. And my friends' partners seem to have no hobbies outside of hiding in their man caves watching sports or playing video games, if…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 05:00 PM
1

Right? Even beyond divorce, one parent could die. I'm a child of divorce. My cousins lost their dad to cancer when they were teenagers, so my aunt was a single parent for part of their upbringing.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 01:45 PM
6

I'd argue both genders are responsible. It takes two to tango. With a divorce rate of 50%, I'm sure both parties have been guilty of causing (cheating, abuse, etc.) and/or filing for divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 05:42 PM
1

Yes... And wondered if my singleness is a result of divine punishment for them. I've almost exclusively dated outside of my race/faith. My most serious relationship ended with his going back to India for an arranged marriage. My parents told me I "got what I asked for being in unequally yoked relationships." I often wonder if they're right.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 02:52 PM
28

Early 20s, you're still in university, so you're generally surrounded by people your own age in the same season of life all day. After college, you don't have that anymore. Your coworkers are all in different seasons of life (married, raising kids, close to retirement, etc.)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 02:45 PM
2

I'm getting to that point myself. Everyone around me is married already. But, to get interest, you have to show interest. And locking yourself in your house ain't it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 02:41 PM
15

You're right to an extent, but a lot of social struggles, are self inflicted. As a woman, I'd love to quit dating apps, but how else do folks meet today? I've tried putting myself out there but mom's wrong in that I can't just meet a nice boy at church or out volunteering. There are no boys there or anywhere! Most single guys prefer to stay home with video games and porn, I guess. Men in relationships aren't much better based on observations of friends' partners and past relationships. Men have …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 02:20 PM

I think porn is degrading towards women and ruins men with false expectations. I get called a pick me for expressing that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 01:43 PM
1

Watch me!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 09:25 PM
4

I'm not saying there aren't educated women doing this kind of work. There are, especially with the economy as it is. As a teacher, despite having a master's degree, I was paid shit ($35k/yr.) As a single, I could live on that, but I'd imagine a teacher mom with kids to feed making my same salary having to turn to sex work to make sure her kids don't go hungry. I've since left teaching and make double that amount working in tech, but can see how desperation may not look as you think it does.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 06:08 PM
6

Oh, I agree. Apparently, I'm a racist and sexist for not listening to that crap according to my colleagues. I made the mistake of mentioning that I'd rather my niblings listen to Jimmy Buffett than modern music when my nephew went to his concert in our city last year for his 18th birthday. I got crucified. Sorry for caring about my niblings and how what they're consuming affects them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 05:59 PM
5

Right? This is why I low key hope Haley wins. I want to see my woke colleagues explode.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 05:56 PM
3

I don't hang out with them outside of work, which is the beauty of working remotely, but unfortunately, I need this job. However, if I ever strike it rich, I'm telling them to fuck off.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 03:34 PM
8

Allow me to introduce you to my liberal so-called feminist colleagues.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 03:23 PM
172

Women are, too. I personally don't find a lot of what is supposed to empower me as a woman today empowering (WAP, OnlyFans, etc.) If anything, I find it degrading and dehumanizing. Despite being a millennial, I long for old fashioned chivalry. But, if I express this, other women call me a pick me and player in my own oppression. Sounds like projection, but okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 02:52 PM
-1

Not all women are promiscuous and I feel like those of us who aren't are being punished on behalf of those who are. I feel like the sexual revolution was bad for women, while being painted as otherwise. I'd gladly go back to our grandparents' time for dating and relationships. Apparently that makes me a player in my own oppression and means I have internalized misogyny.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 03:02 PM
5

Okay, but teen girls have always "driven" pop culture in a way. See the British invasion of the 60s (The Beatles, etc.), the divas of the 80s (Madonna, etc.) and the boy bands of the 90s (Backstreet Boys, etc.)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 01:20 PM
-4

Because men don't want to commit. Like, shit or get off the pot, y'all.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 12:52 PM
14

Right? Like, I wouldn't go for the tattooed ex-con with 3.5 kids by 4 different baby mamas. People do need to use some judgement.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 04:03 PM
0

Okay, but as a woman, this feels pretty damn misogynistic. Most of us want real honest to goodness relationships and not just to "scratch an itch." Most of us hate being stuck in situationships and other BS because men don't want to commit. Not all of us care about height or other vain BS, a lot of pickiness is to filter out the toxic jerks who just want to use us for sex at best or actually abuse us at worst.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 03:27 PM
30

Lifelong victim of mean girls, here. No shit. And they're especially vicious towards other women, but try to not appear to be. Anytime a woman is too nice to me, I'm suspicious. And whenever I hear anyone go on about the sisterhood or women supporting women, I want to run for the hills.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 05:49 PM
1

I see that now. I'm thrilled my niblings are skipping out on college and going for the military and trades instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 03:00 PM
0

My master's is in education. I did a fast track program for BEd and MEd in 5 years. I never aspired to be a career woman or boss babe. I only went to college as divorce insurance at the urging of my teachers and parents as I wanted to be a SAHM. I went into teaching thinking I'd have the same schedule as my future kids. I didn't. I've since left teaching.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 02:59 PM
9

I feel like I can't win. I guess I have what you'd call old fashioned morals and values, especially re: sex and relationships. I need to be in a committed relationship before sex is even a question. Unfortunately, many men get frustrated and walk away when I don't put out as soon as they'd like. However, if I did put out, they'd slut shame me. I feel like I'm damned if I do, damned if I don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 01:14 PM
1

In my small town, people hold a lot of backward, old fashioned values like men should be more educated than women and women shouldn't have careers. See also the overeducated, underloved millennial tweet/meme.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 12:41 PM
1

Hahaha, it's not the stem guys. It's the blue collar, average guys near me. I live in a small, conservative town that just happens to be home to some hotspots for educated folks.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 12:39 PM

Good for you but I'm looking for an actual relationship. People where I live marry freakishly young and think something is seriously wrong with you if you are single over 25. Whereas it's not unusual to be single over 30 in the city and that's the age city folk tend to want to settle down. I suppose I could take a hotel, hang out in the city for a day and line up some "job interview" dates while there to try to find someone who wants to come back to the middle of nowhere with me to raise kids or…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 12:37 PM
1

They don't all have the same values. Problem is, those more liberal Western men don't share my values regarding marriage and family life. I'm considered an outdated prude at best or a hateful bigot at worst based on my social values.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 12:34 PM
3

I'm not a doctor. I work in tech and have a master's degree. However, most Western men, especially those who are more conservative, are intimidated by educated women. Education isn't really valued in American society, especially for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 03:04 AM
1

Depends on the woman, but, I'm the female version of a passport bro. Unimpressed with Western men based on their values or lack thereof, I've mostly gone for educated immigrants from family oriented cultures (Hispanic, Middle Eastern, and Indian, mostly). I happen to live near 2 hospitals, a research lab, and a university, so I have access to this particular dating pool. I hold a master's degree and work in the tech industry. This is seen as an asset by men in these cultures while most white men…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 02:19 AM

My own... As a lifelong victim of mean girls, I have a healthy distrust of other women. I have to vet any potential female friends carefully. To be fair, the feeling's mutual as many of them see me as some kind of threat despite my having no desire to fuck their man baby husbands.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 08:18 PM
8

I guess I'm an impartial woman if we're using the same definition as for the men in #3. Like, I believe there's truth to the statement "not all men, but somehow always a man." But also, women aren't innocent either. Problem is, if I express this, I'm accused of being a pick me and not supporting the sisterhood.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 07:32 PM
2

Oof, socialization is a challenge, period. Even making female friends is hell for me as a moderate. Depending who you ask I'm either a pick me and player in my own oppression or a baby killer. You can't win!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 03:00 PM
5

Yes, but I'd go one step further and say that dating is hell if you're a moderate today, regardless of gender. I, moderate female, live in a limbo zone of being too liberal for conservatives and too conservative for liberals. Who you voted for (or didn't) shouldn't be your whole personality. Moderates are not the devil. Give us a chance!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 02:31 PM
7

Yes, but also I'd add on, if you don't live in a largely populated area. I live in a small town in the middle of nowhere. Most people here married their high school or college sweetheart. We're a college town, but folks leave after graduation, maybe coming back to raise kids or retire. The nearest major city to me is 4 hours away. I know I'd have better luck in dating if I moved there (or to another bigger city). Problem is, it's expensive and I feel like moving just for more dating options is a…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 03:27 PM
3

Okay, then, explain the coupled folks who lose that loving feeling after 30 and divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 11:46 PM
5

I'm not a fan of movie dates early on. You don't have a chance to talk and get to know each other. I'm more of a coffee girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 06:28 PM
5

Ooh, I'm in the same boat as you. You may be demi (ace lite). It just means you need an emotional connection before a physical one. This makes dating in our modern oversexed culture hell. That said, the right person will respect you. I've been rejected by men who got frustrated with me for not putting out. The same men would slut shame us for putting out. You're damned if you do, damned if you don't, so do you.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 02:04 PM
1

My first real relationship was in my mid 20s. You're more mature and can appreciate it more than you could as a teen or preteen.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 12:15 PM

People do change but a lot of these women go for men who show who they clearly are but think they can fix/change him. My own father was a known alcoholic and the town Tom cat. Having me and then ending up with Mom didn't change that. You can't turn a ho into a housewife should be a gender neutral statement. So, you can't change an addict/man baby/community dick into a family man.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 09:41 AM
2

And I'm on all of them and they all suck! And some of us want social connections beyond just dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 11:32 AM
6

I live in a small town, so YMMV, but in the 10 years I've lived here, I've looked into these options for myself and found most do not cater to young professionals. To be fair, there aren't many young professionals here to begin with as most leave once they finish college and maybe come back to raise their kids and/or retire.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 08:17 PM
14

Like, going out to eat? Everyone eats and not having to cook your food yourself is nice. Or needs to buy things to eat, so, why not do it at the farmer's market? And why wouldn't you want your partner to share your interests? I get you may not enjoy all the same stuff, but at least share some things.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 07:27 PM
7

When I say this, I don't mean that these spaces will just magically appear out of thin air, but that existing institutions expand their offerings to make them more accessible to everyone. I am such an abnormal teetotaler. Institutions like libraries, museums, the Y/gyms, churches (or other houses of worship) and civic groups (Mason's, Rotary, etc.) exist. The problem is, they don't really offer much for young professionals and could do better in doing that. I'd love to see a book club, exercise …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 07:22 PM
11

I'd say this is true regardless of gender. I always find it funny when my divorced mother and friends/colleagues with man baby husbands say I'm too picky in one breath and bitch about how their men ain't shit in the next. Like, maybe you should've been pickier about who you picked to do life with.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 05:40 PM
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I don't disagree. As a single woman, I've found Mom to be wrong in that I can't meet a nice boy at church or out volunteering. There are no boys there or the few men there were dragged there by their wives. When I've been in relationships, I've spent many mornings dragging my partner out of bed so we don't miss church, brunch, or the farmers market. Men don't like going out and doing stuff, I guess. Going out to eat with friends, I can tell their partners don't really want to be there just by lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 04:50 PM
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As a society, we create more social opportunities for young professionals and be more welcoming towards them to fight loneliness regardless of gender. Not everyone is a bar person. Working professionals can't make it to a book club, exercise class, or social club (Rotary, Masons, etc.) at noon on Tuesday.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 01:24 PM
1

Ooh, I took a ballroom dance class last winter. It was an interesting mix of middle aged/older folks and university students. It'd have been more fun if I'd had more kids my own age to play with (33).
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 04:39 PM
3

They do exist, problem is, most millennials, especially men, don't seem interested. I'm not a bar/club person. I prefer more laid back social settings that fit this description like libraries, farmers markets, museums, etc. Though, I do wish they had more organized activities (book clubs, lectures, etc.) at times young professionals can attend.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 12:35 PM

I think a lot it comes from mommy issues. I taught at a title 1 school before COVID. Most of my students are products of single moms or Mom is the default parent if Dad is around. At school, most teachers are female. As a female teacher, my male students disrespected me but worshipped my male colleagues. Boys don't need another mommy nagging them. They need a man to look up to. It's no wonder they're seeking male role models on the Internet and finding them in influencers like Andrew Tate who te…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 12:27 PM
43

Makes sense... I was a fat kid growing up. I was basically invisible to boys, though, I did get to be the victim of a few "pull a pig" pranks in high school. I often question the motives of anyone, regardless of gender, who calls me attractive despite losing the weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 11:47 AM
3

Well, I'd like to have a commitment (be exclusive - I count anything on the side as infidelity) in less than 6 months, nobody wants that except for very fringe populations (that are already married, so off the market). I know a couple who got married after like 3 months of dating in college (no, she wasn't pregnant, they were just super Christian). I wish I could find that at my age, but I'm stuck with the Peter Pans. IDK what's so wrong about wanting a commitment before sex. I know, "test drive…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 09:26 PM
2

What does commitment before physical connection mean? Do you need to agree to a committed relationship to have sex? How long do you let them wait? Exactly that! I need to be in a committed relationship before I sleep with them. Hell, it takes me several months (6+ on avg.) to get to that point. Most guys don't make it that long before they move on because they're not getting what they want, but I want to know they're "the real deal" and not just using me for sex. Is that what I'm doing wrong? Ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 08:55 PM
4

Where do I begin? For starters, it's basically a shitty 2nd unpaid job. Nobody wants a commitment anymore (or to go on a real date or have a real conversation, not texting, for that matter). You'd think in my 30s, that wouldn't be an issue, but it is. There are too many Peter Pans still just looking for "fun" and some pretend to want a commitment just to lead you on, so you have to vet them very carefully. On a related note, I need an emotional connection/commitment before I can have a physical …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 08:24 PM
-2

There are people in loving relationships now, but they sure as hell didn't meet in the current dating scene. I've been at this shit for 5 years and I'm exhausted AF.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 08:09 PM
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Seeing as women are just used for sex at best and run the risk of actual murder at worst... Yeah, I'd say us.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 07:59 PM
0

It feels like work regardless of gender. As a woman, I often joke that online dating is my 2nd shitty unpaid job. And the few times I do actually get to go on a date, it feels like a job interview.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 11:13 AM
1

The attempts I've made to express interest in men have resulted in my being called clingy or crazy, so not since.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 11:53 AM
1

I did not tell men that. I'd love to be pursued by a man. Plenty of women would. Don't let a vocal minority put you off.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 04:06 PM
3

Not necessarily... Gyms offer exercise classes. Libraries often host lectures, art exhibits, and other community events. Also, sub church for temple, mosque, or your house of worship of choice, if you're not a Christian.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/23 06:07 PM
1

In general, yes. Sure, there are some women who are not such great people, but largely, most are good. Also, consider the venues you're meeting this woman in and what you want from the relationship. Though, I'd argue this advice applies regardless of gender. Those who frequent bars/clubs vs. those who go to the gym, church, library, or other places intended for self-improvement have different goals and personalities. A bar is a great place if you're wanting a hookup, not so much for a relationsh…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/23 05:51 PM
2

Want to switch? The few singles there are also women. All the men are taken and are being dragged there by their wives/GFs.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/23 05:35 PM
14

Get off your asses and into the community! Turns out, Mom was wrong, and I can't just meet a nice boy at church or out volunteering. There are no boys there (or in the Meetup groups, or damn near anywhere else). I know it's tempting to want to stay at home with video games and porn, but that's not how you meet girls, guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/23 05:26 PM
7

Well, it looks like I'm learning how to golf, then.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 02:42 PM
35

I'd argue this works for all genders. I have largely female dominated hobbies (yoga, crafting, etc.), which is fine as a woman, but it doesn't really allow me to meet men. I've considered taking up more male dominated (or at least gender neutral but male skewing) hobbies to meet more dudes like golf or something. However, I know that I'd be miserable trying to fake an interest in something I really don't care about just to meet men, who may not even be interested in me, so I've just wasted my ti…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 12:22 PM
3

If anything, I think it's overestimated. Not all of us are into the party scene. Maybe it's because I'm old and uncool (33), but I don't really see the appeal of getting shit-faced drunk. Even in college, I wasn't into that, though for different reasons (I was the religious good girl). You can't have a conversation or get to know people in party crowds, including bars/clubs. I'd love to see more "adult" activities that don't center around partying/booze that young professionals can attend after …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 01:42 PM
0

"women are the gatekeepers of sex while men are the gatekeepers of relationships." I think it is true. As a straight woman, I'm not into hookups and need an emotional connection/committed relationship to even consider sex, which, I guess would make me a gatekeeper of sex. Meanwhile, most men seem to only be interested in sex or if they have any interest in a committed relationship, they categorize women into relationship vs. hookup material and the hellish limbo zones like situationships. Though…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 01:17 PM
3

It's so much more than that. It's... I want more than just sex, which is what it seems like most dudes on the apps want. I want an honest to goodness relationship. I live in a small town, so don't have many options to begin with, but I'm tired of swiping through fuck boys and couples looking for a third. Being ghosted and generally ignored wears on you after a while. Dating app burnout is real.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 06:13 PM
2

HAHAHA, no. I "take breaks" from dating apps as a woman because I get exhausted by them and need to do so for my mental health. I've been at this for 5 years and I'm fed up.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 03:33 PM
4

I actually agree here. Most of my hobbies are very female dominated (crafting, yoga, etc.) I've seriously considered trying more male dominant hobbies (golf, etc.) but know I'd be miserable trying to get into something I'm not just to meet dudes. So, there definitely needs to be gender neutral 3rd spaces.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 10:24 AM
3

Men of my age (30s), at least. Though, there are still fewer men volunteering across the board, and those I've met (usually boomers) are there with their wives.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 06:57 PM
2

Seems that way, but what really gets me is how these organizations complain about a lack of volunteers or young folks getting involved. Which, I get since they'll have a real problem in a few years when the current crew "ages out." I know I'm part of the problem by not doing these things as a young person but make these opportunities more friendly to us. Why does the Rotary Club meet at noon on Tuesday when they want more young professionals to join?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 02:43 PM

I think a lot of it is societal. Social rules for women are more restrictive than they are for men, so other women feel like they need to enforce them. Girls and women are socialized a certain way from early childhood. Often, the first (and biggest misogynist) in most women's lives is another woman, usually their mother.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 01:53 PM

As a lifelong victim of mean girls, it's a mix of a lack of maturity and internalized misogyny. I now work in a predominantly male profession (tech) but came from a female-dominated profession (teaching). Whenever I hear anyone talk about how women should support women, I want to run for the hills. Mean girls don't go away after high school, they just find new shit to pick on other women about. I'd say they grow up, but they really don't. And if you say anything about it, as a woman, you get cal…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 01:45 PM
6

IDK, she just says volunteering, so, probably like the animal shelter or joining a "volunteer" organization that does service projects like the Rotary Club. Never mind that the Rotary is full of people who are old enough to be my grandparents.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 01:37 PM
6

Shit out of luck
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 01:23 PM
28

I'd argue there's nowhere for anyone of any gender to meet anyone anymore. I'm a straight woman. Mom lied. I can't just meet a nice boy at church or out volunteering. There are no boys there (or anywhere for that matter). The few men there are married and were dragged there by their wives. Seems like single men prefer to just stay home with video games and porn, I guess. I also live in a small town where if you don't find your person by 22, you're SOL, so that may skew it, but where do you meet …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 12:03 PM
12

It's a TV show. Real life was likely as bad, if not worse, than it is today.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 11:09 PM
3

IDK that there are separate standards based on gender, but I feel like the "male loneliness epidemic" is mostly self-inflicted. Mom was wrong. I can't just "meet a nice boy at church or out volunteering" there are no boys there. Or, anywhere else for that matter. And the few that are there are taken and were dragged there by their wives or GFs. Single men prefer to just stay home with video games and porn, I guess. Meanwhile, I can tell when out with friends and their partners that the male part…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 03:20 PM
4

People have free access to loads of info on how to look more attractive. Yup! Preteens and teens today don't have an "awkward" phase like those of us who are elder millennials and older did. Hell, I have nieces in middle school who look more "grown" than I do and they're 1/3 my age.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 01:14 PM
2

And to me, that looks like freedom instead of being expected to be everything to everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 10:51 AM
14

I question if women really are freer today than they were during our grandmothers' time. We are expected to "lean in" and "have it all" and look "smoking hot" while doing it. Meanwhile, Grandma only had to stay home with her kids and standards for men haven't changed (just work).
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 03:52 PM
19

This is what I wanted. Or even a couple years later in university. Meet at 19/20 and marry at 22/23 after graduation. At 33 and single, I just want to find my person and grow old and fat together ASAP.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 01:30 PM
-2

I feel like this is already a thing with the whole "Dad Bod" trend. Meanwhile, "Mom Bods" aren't praised in a similar fashion.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 10:56 AM
3

I grew up in church during the height of purity culture in the 90s-00s. Enough said.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 06:03 PM
4

B
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 03:02 PM
12

Having had two parents with cancer, I can tell you that statistically that's not true. Men are more likely to leave their female partners when they become terminally ill. My parents were already divorced when dx-ed, but doctors give women dx-ed with cancer information about divorce. Meanwhile, men don't get that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 01:54 PM
4

Yes, but not in the way you think. Generally, women are more emotionally driven. Meanwhile, men are generally more visual. You can't get the emotional connection through a dating app the way you can by meeting IRL. I know this is part of my struggle dating as a woman in 2023.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 10:52 PM
23

IDK, the older (my age 33 and older) childfree women I know fit the stereotype pretty well and it scares me. They have a menagerie of pets to "make up" for not having kids. They also drink a lot. I'm terrified of becoming one of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 12:50 PM
8

It would be better if anyone, regardless of gender, could express interest in someone they're interested in. I'd love to be able to make the first move as a woman without being called clingy or crazy. But, I also appreciate it when a man pursues me.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 03:20 PM
11

It takes two to tango, so I'd say no. Men are equally responsible. Too many Peter Pans out there who are still just looking for fun at 40 who don't realize they also have a biological clock to worry about, even if they can technically father babies until they die.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 10:53 PM
2

Yes, and societal as well. People do not treat single childless women over a certain age too kindly. We're ignored at best and actively discriminated against at worst. Men see us as damaged goods. Other women see us as threats.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 10:50 PM
2

No shit. I'm 33. People where I live get married right out of high school or college. Where are all these millennials delaying marriage? Because I sure as shit haven't met any.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 03:02 PM
3

HAHAHA... No. Most of the men I encounter in the wild are married men who are dragged to wherever I'm at by their wives (restaurants, church, farmer's market, etc.) Believe me, it's not any easier for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 02:52 PM
2

I feel like it's a combination of things. Online dating reduces people to products. Whereas, if you meet someone IRL, typically, you're in a space where you share common interests (sports, hobbies, church, charity, etc.) and can get to know each other without pressure. The problem is, in 2023, Mom's advice that you can meet a nice boy at church or out volunteering is wrong (or at least, outdated) because there are no boys there (or anywhere for that matter) as they prefer to just stay in with vi…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 11:51 AM
1

See every meme about "roast beef" on the internet. I guarantee you, it's not other women making those.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 11:27 AM
2

Used for sex, as in, you're just a hookup, not a relationship. I do enjoy sex in the right context (a committed, loving relationship) but not outside of that. I can't speak for what happens to gals who sleep with guys on the first date as I'm not that kind of girl, but I do see how promiscuous women are talked about on the internet (used up, undesirable, etc.)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 05:27 PM
4

In a lot of circles, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 05:13 PM
2

I get shamed for not being a slut by both men and women. Mostly men, in my experience. Men get frustrated when I don't put out as soon as they'd like and disappear. Sigh...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 04:11 PM
3

We're shamed for both! Hence why I said, "we can't win."
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 04:07 PM
3

Not all women are happier single, but we also don't just want to be used for sex. As for why we desire commitment, along with not being used, there's social pressure for women to marry and have kids. Women, generally, are not seen as "adults" or "real women" until they marry and have kids, especially in conservative circles. It's not unusual for a woman's friend group to shrink significantly after college when their friends start marrying and having kids. And forget about making new friends as m…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 04:01 PM
2

True, but when you're navigating double standards in the attempt to find one person while dating, it gets frustrating.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 03:27 PM
3

That's my question! Our society is oversexed to a fault. I feel like we've gone from being extremely repressed to the exact opposite. There has to be a better way.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 01:59 PM
6

The purity culture of the 90s-00s. While it is a mostly evangelical protestant thing, there are some Catholics (including clergy/teachers) who share these teachings also (women are obligated to give men sex, must dress modestly, etc.) Misogyny transcends religious lines.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 12:37 PM
14

That'd be great if women still weren't slut shamed. We can't win. We don't put out? We're prudes. We do put out? We're sluts.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 12:32 PM
5

Mostly evangelical protestant, though, I've heard this teaching in Catholic churches as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 12:29 PM
20

I think it's a combination of factors. However, I'd say socialization plays a major role. Girls and women, especially in conservative Christian spaces, are taught that sex is something done to them, not for them, and that it's their "duty" to keep a man. Male pleasure is centered more.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 12:05 PM
2

My options for the gym here are the Y or the gym at the university. Most of the people I encounter are university students or little old ladies, so not the demographic I'm looking for as a straight 30 something female. I also live in small town hell where if you don't find your person by 22, you're SOL.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 02:55 PM
7

I find this goes beyond just seeking sex. It seems like, outside of dating apps, men aren't out seeking anything at all. As much as I wish my mom was right and I could just meet a nice boy at church or out volunteering, there aren't any boys there or anywhere for that matter (gym, library, etc.) It seems like most single men prefer to stay home with video games and porn. Though, it doesn't seem like it's much better for partnered men either. A lot of outings with friends consist of them dragging…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 12:27 PM
2

I've considered this as well, specifically a "ring by spring" Christian college. However, I'm sure they wouldn't want an old lady in her 30s, even at secular schools.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 11:35 AM
1

Shit out of luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 02:19 AM
1

I see this in the case of actual location, like where one lives more. I live in a small college town. My options here suck. If you don't find your person by 22, you're SOL. Most people leave once they graduate and never come back (or only do to raise their kids later on). My closest major city is 4 hrs. away by car. It's also very expensive to live there. I've considered moving but can't really afford it (initial moving costs are also fairly expensive) and feel stupid moving just to find more pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 04:54 PM
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Agreed... And it's part of why I'm not a fan of modern feminism as a woman. Sex work is not empowering, it's degrading, so is porn. I don't see being used as a sex object, which is what modern hookup culture downgrades women to, as liberating. Old school feminists were against this shit for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 03:44 PM
6

IDK, the kind of traditional woman my grandmother was seemed more free than this definition of traditional or the modern woman. She only had to look after her house and kids. Today, women are expected to lean in and have it all and look smoking hot while doing it and it's exhausting. Take me back to Grandma's time.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 02:14 PM
20

I often find it easier to pay someone to do a job than to do it myself. It often is cheaper and easier to pay to have someone do stuff. Modern cars are impossible to do any kind of repairs on because of all of the electronics and specialized equipment needed. See also modern appliances with high-tech features. Also, you better know what the hell you're doing when it comes to house repairs. My friend's partner is a plumber. He often has to fix DIY-ers fuck ups and that costs them more money than …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 06:37 PM
6

I've been through a lot of shit (bullying as a kid, divorced parents, SA, abusive relationship, etc.) I never had a hoe phase. However, the women I know who did mostly did so for reason A in high school or college vs. reason B.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 07:21 PM

Oh, so my current life? It sucks, but it is what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 05:39 PM
15

inspins (women who cannot get men to commit) Finally, I have a word for it! I don't want to just be used for sex. Nobody wants a commitment anymore and that's my problem with dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 04:35 PM
2

Meanwhile, my "girl pack" tells me I'm too picky. It boils my blood. Like, Bish, if anything, you should've been pickier, as evidenced by how much you bitch about how the man baby you call your spouse ain't shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 05:12 PM
4

I'd say taking care of yourself does require being strong and competent. Also, being a "leader" in your own life. Self-care is more than just spa days and bubble baths. It's also advocating for yourself, setting boundaries, and caring for your health (physical/mental).
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 05:03 PM
3

Take care of yourself. Cooking, cleaning, and self-care are not just for girls. Women want a man, not a man baby that she has to parent. Also, women are not objects, they're people. Treat them as such.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 04:42 PM

As a divorce kid who spent her Christmases shuffling from one relative's house to another, I agree. Though, smartphones aren't entirely the cause. Hell, I had to take a 23 and Me when we sold the house when Dad went to the nursing home two years ago because of his time in Vietnam. I haven't found any half-siblings but know people who have.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 06:24 PM
3

Yes, because of how divided we are. I don't see things getting better. People's response to COVID (or lack thereof) is proof of that. Compare that to how people responded to polio in the 50s and 60s. Grandma got her kids vaccinated without question. She didn't have grifters spewing BS about why she shouldn't do it on Fox News and Facebook. Folks worked together for the common good. It's not climate change I'm afraid of as much as how people will respond. I also don't see things ending well, rega…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 05:30 PM
7

Well, it's not by choice. It's mostly because I'm single (again, not by choice) and at 33, I don't see it being the cards. Seeing the shit show of a world we live in created by the rich and powerful gives me peace about not having kids who will have to live in an even worse hell than the one we exist in.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 05:15 PM
2

But they're not the norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 04:39 PM
3

Not really, most people do date to marry, and yes, have children. Also, the divorce rate is 50 percent and raising kids alone is expensive.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 04:37 PM
9

Woman, here. We're not staying single because modern life is comfortable. When basics like food, clothing, and shelter are becoming unaffordable to the average person and the world is being rocked by climate change and political unrest, why would we want to marry and bring children into that world?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 04:31 PM

They do, generally. Most of the men I've dated have been lawyers, doctors, tech pros, engineers, etc. My liberal colleagues do not like when I bring this up when they're going on about affirmative action and other current racial politics.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 05:49 PM

This, too. Though, I'd argue it goes beyond Trump supporters as I've had liberal colleagues express their disapproval of my dating outside of my race as a white woman. I've been called both a "slave" and a "coloniser" for dating men from these non-western, more conservative cultures by liberal colleagues. Racism crosses party lines.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 05:46 PM

IDK, I'm a Western woman who was raised in a strict, religious home. I find my experience mirrors non-westerners, which is why they've made up most of my dating history. I often joke that Desi culture is the conservative Christian purity culture I grew up with on steroids.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 05:44 PM
4

And demi... Well, ace lite. I don't care about what that body can do until I see that you're a decent human being with whom I can form an actual relationship with that is based on more than sex (common values, hobbies, interests, etc.)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 04:42 PM
2

We do, and it contributes to burnout in dating. Though , IDK if it's feeling like you're crazy as much as burnout and wondering what the hell is wrong with you when nobody wants to commit to you. You have to be on guard to avoid being used for sex, which is constantly. After some time, the rejection wears on you if you're looking for a relationship. I know this is why I (33F) am burnt out by dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 10:44 AM
0

Bold of you to assume men go swimming and play basketball. Most men in my life are addicted to video games and porn. The women in my life do have actual hobbies (fitness, crafting, reading, etc.)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 11:13 AM
12

Marriageable people (regardless of gender) are rare today. Nobody wants a commitment anymore. Even within a committed relationship, people (of all genders) are cheaters, poly, addicted to porn, or just generally don't do commitment. That's not even factoring in contributing to the partnership to keep up a home and family together (childcare, chores, etc.) As much as I'd like to find my person, as a straight woman, I'd rather not be stuck parenting a man baby who can't even wipe his own ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 02:41 PM

Depending on the career, she'll have more time for you in a "male" role than a "female" one. My mom's a nurse and I was a latchkey kid. Looking back, I can't say I'm surprised she ended up divorced as she had no time for Dad or me. I thought I'd "do better" and go into teaching so I'd have the same schedule as my future kids. I didn't. My ex used to bitch about the time I'd spend on school outside of school. I can't say it's a coincidence that the woman he left me for is a SAHM. After he left an…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 11:17 AM
9

I, as a woman, actually like Peterson's dating advice and advice about personal responsibility. I was a fan of his before he went off the deep end personally and politically (COVID misinformation, carnivore diet, etc.) Apparently, that means I side with Satan.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 11:41 AM
1

Oddly enough, interracial dating has been what's helped me overcome the political division. I (white American moderate educated woman) have mostly dated educated immigrants from more traditional cultures (Indian, Middle Eastern, Hispanic) who are immune to American political division. These men see my education as an asset rather than a threat. They share my conservative social beliefs while also sharing my liberal scientific beliefs. I've yet to find a white American man who shares both. Those …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 10:51 AM
2

Depends... If you're strongly on one side or the other, you'll likely be able to find someone who shares those values seeking the same, which is important in a relationship (at least to me). However, as a moderate, I live in a limbo zone where I'm too conservative for the liberals and too liberal for the conservatives. It makes dating damn near impossible in our divided society.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 10:45 AM
1

Actually, this makes sense for one of my friends. She owns a coworking space out of her house. Her boyfriend is a plumber who inherited his dad's business. They can't have kids (she has PCOS, he doesn't want to risk it due to genetic disorders in his family), so she's not a SAHM, really.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 06:19 PM
5

I'm not. In relationships, I've bent over backwards for dudes to the point of being called a pick me. And I don't want to be used for sex, so don't put out unless I know it's the "real deal." It just sucks!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 02:35 PM
8

Well, I'm not a gamer and not a fan of porn... Also, what do men want other than just sex? Which is what so many seem to want, whereas I want a real honest to goodness relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 02:10 PM
1

Unless you live in a small town and you match with someone who, while they may not be in your direct social circle, do hang out in a lot of the places you frequent (gym, church, grocery store, etc.) because there's not much else around. I've also seen the exes and partners of friends on there, which is hella awkward.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 01:16 PM
28

It's 2023. The unfortunate reality is that it takes 2 incomes to make ends meet now, unless you're wealthy. That said, couples should "build each other up." It's not financial support as much as emotional support and doing one's share around the house or re: childcare. My cousin is a stay-at-home dad. His wife has her own chiropractic practice. They were paying more than his salary in childcare costs for their 2 kids. He was a high school guidance counselor before. He helped build her business b…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 12:45 PM
1

I'm on this thing, like it's my 2nd (albeit, shitty and unpaid) job. I still haven't found someone after 5 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 11:29 AM
6

I'm a woman who does online dating. This shit sucks. I've been at it 5 years. I'm exhausted and frustrated AF, but how else do people meet in 2023? Being stuck in a small town, it does expand my options, though, my settings are at the max mileage (100 miles). However, that doesn't mean those options are good. I'm tired of fuck boys, "nice guys," ghosting, couples looking for a 3rd, and nobody wanting a commitment. I wish I could just meet a nice boy at church like my mom thinks I can. I can't, t…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 11:26 AM
1

Yes! Heck, I only ever wanted to be in the kitchen and prefer when dudes initiate sex. I only went to college as divorce insurance at the urging of my parents and teachers. I only ever wanted to be a SAHM. I want someone who can give me the opportunity.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 06:53 PM
1

I'm not one of those blue haired feminists despite being a woman. Hell, I'm just the opposite. I think our society was much better when men were men, not eternal boys.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 06:43 PM
2

Men don't pursue women and when women pursue men we're called clingy or crazy. If we do manage to get past "hello" on dating apps, women have to do all the emotional labor for nothing in return. It sucks. I'd love to go back to the days of chivalry. I want to be pursued the way my Grandma was pursued by my Grandpa.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 06:42 PM
0

Yes, but men are meant to pursue women, not the other way around. That's the problem with dating today.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 03:38 PM
5

I try... But despite it being 2023, women who pursue men are seen as clingy and crazy, but also expected to do all the emotional labor (keep the conversation going, plan dates, etc.)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 03:34 PM
4

Okay, but I really do want someone who is attentive, kind, and brings me on actual dates. I'm so damn sick of doing all the emotional labor in dating to get nothing in return because all he wants is sex or whatever. I want to be pursued and wooed, but men don't do that anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 03:11 PM
-1

If it's a choice, yes. If it's not, no. Personally, I didn't choose my current season of singleness. I would've wanted to marry young and have a big family. Nobody wanted a commitment then (10 years ago) and they still don't now, so I'm SOL. Also, the happily single women pick on the less happily single like me mercilessly. According to them, I'm a pick me and player in my own oppression. It makes trying to embrace singleness tough as I feel sad for them in a way.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 04:56 PM
2

Such as education and the professional career/sector. Yes! I was a teacher pre-pandemic. We need more men in education. My male students worshipped my male colleagues while disrespecting me/my female colleagues. Working in a title 1 school, many of my students came from single moms. They don't need another mommy to nag them. They need a man to look up to. That's why influencers like Andrew Tate thrive. Boys are looking for male role models and finding them in all the wrong places.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 11:15 AM
2

On a related note, be cool with women making the first move. It's 2023! Men don't pursue women anymore. And when women try to express interest, we're called clingy or crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 11:13 AM
2

I do not think women are wonderful and perfect. As the lifelong victim of mean girls, I have a healthy distrust of other women. I do often wonder how some women (abusive, unfaithful, etc.) have men in their lives while I don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 01:04 PM
1

It is... I'm 33. I live in a college town and this is my biggest challenge in having a social life. I'm definitely in a different stage than the students around me. The bar scene here is a choice between barely legal college kids and middle aged men hiding from their wives and responsibilities at the pub after work. Outside of the bar scene? I'm lumped in with the college and career crowd (church small group) despite being a full decade older than the others and it's awkward AF.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 10:57 AM
2

Hahahaha... Where? I'm seen as a threat as a single woman. Especially by other women. Like, I'm not going to hurt your kids or steal your man, I just want to be friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 09:54 AM
4

Exactly, it's hostile to singles, period. I'd argue more so for single women since most activities for adult women are kid centered (Mommy and Me classes, Mops, etc.)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 08:36 PM
-2

True, but after 5 years, you start to wonder...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 02:02 PM
2

I've known women who were essentially ignored by the opposite sex, but they saw themselves as defective rather than the uninterested men. It me! I'm now 5 years single and it's hard not to wonder, "what the hell is wrong with me?" I don't hate men. Sure, I do acknowledge there are flaws, but ultimately, I feel like some of these uninterested men are problems solving themselves (abusive, misogynistic, porn-sick, etc.)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 12:26 PM
1

I actually agree. I could never say this IRL without being called a gender traitor, but I often wonder if I really am freer as a woman living in 2023 America. Hell, even America 60 years ago was better for us. I'd gladly go back to my Grandma's time. All Grandma had to do was stay home with the kids. Meanwhile, as a modern woman, I'm expected to "lean in" and "have it all" and look smoking hot while doing it. Standards for men haven't changed since Grandma's time (just work).
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 02:06 PM
5

Am woman, I notice this as well. I also notice my female friends have more actual hobbies (crafting, cooking, yoga/exercise, etc.) than the men in their lives (just video games, watching sports, and porn).
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 11:40 AM
2

Okay, then explain all the grown ass adults still just looking for "fun" on dating apps and why nobody wants a commitment anymore but prefers to just bed hop.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 11:09 AM
2

Hahahaha... It's been 5 years for me. It's not that easy. Also, I'm looking for a commitment, which nobody seems to want.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 10:42 AM
3

Yeah, because my white, American, fair skinned, blonde haired, blue eyed self will do so well on that thing....
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 03:51 PM
9

Yes! My ex was from India. He left me for an arranged marriage. He and his wife, 5 years later, are happier than ever with their 2 kids. Meanwhile, I'm stuck in modern dating hell. If I could sign up for an arranged marriage myself, I gladly would.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 01:39 PM
2

Not worried about COVID, but know that something like it could easily happen again. Also, it completely screwed up the economy (rising costs of food, housing, other basics) and life as we know it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 05:08 PM
11

It's not all men, but it's a disturbingly high number of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 02:50 PM
16

Joke's on you, I'm not into the casual fling stuff. I believe you should have some kind of commitment and emotional connection before you get physical. I'm demisexual (ace lite) so that helps. Honestly, I could go the rest of my life without sex happily. While I want to find my person, I also don't want to have to meet some man baby's needs and grow old and fat in peace.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 02:49 PM
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IDK, as a single woman, the thing that makes me happy about being single is not having to care for anyone or anything but myself, especially in the current chaotic world (COVID, economy, etc.) The pandemic shined a light on the fact that we're not as advanced as we think we are as a society. Even among my more progressive friends, Mom was the default parent 90% of the time. Along with working full time, these moms did all the housework and childcare. Dad barely lifted a finger and was praised wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 02:36 PM
1

Finding someone whose values aligned with mine and who saw my education as an asset rather than a threat.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 10:34 AM
7

always told my friend if it ain’t foreign it’s boring Yes! I feel this exact same way. I find white dudes boring but also, it feels too much like incest for me. And I've found, thanks to our politically divided society, that I've had better luck as a moderate, educated woman with foreigners who see education as an asset and don't fall into American party lines.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 02:48 PM
2

Sure. I've never traveled outside the states and met these men, who are mostly immigrants, stateside.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 02:17 PM
34

Me! I'm a passport sis. I've mostly dated immigrants (Indian, Middle Eastern, and Hispanic). I totally get where passport bros are coming from.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 01:46 PM
0

I'm curious what the numbers for men are and how those compare. Also, did they only count straight people? That may skew the numbers as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 11:49 AM
3

Unpopular opinion, but yes, you're right. I'm a woman and agree with you. I used to teach high school pre-pandemic. Many of my students came from single moms or Mom was the default parent if both parents were in the home. My male students didn't respect me as a female teacher but worshipped my male colleagues. Which, really, makes sense. They don't need another Mommy nagging them. They need a man to look up to. We have a generation of men raised by women and it's not a good thing. It's part of w…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 03:45 PM

Agreed... As a grown woman, I sure as shit don't see actual children as hot. Gross.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 11:04 AM
1

Maybe not 99% of people, but IVF is becoming more popular (even among straight couples) as the years go on. It's still a relatively new thing but I'm curious how it will impact future generations' (esp. those born via IVF) view of sex, dating, and family.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 08:27 PM
1

I think they're changing how people create families (which, yes, dating is an important first step in that).
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 07:34 PM
4

IDK, I've gotten more shit from other women re: my appearance than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 04:50 PM
-1

Agreed, and I'm a woman. We have hundreds of thousands of kids in foster care who need good homes. Knowing that, I think it's selfish AF to not adopt if you really want a child on your own.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 04:46 PM
9

I agree, and I'm a woman. It makes shopping for clothes hell. Like, I don't want to wear crop tops and hot pants but also don't want to dress like Grandma. There really aren't many cute, modest, affordable options for those of us in the middle. I'm 33 and would like clothes that look good and fit my body.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 04:40 PM
6

Nope! Once a cheater, always a cheater.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 11:32 PM
8

Hello fellow moderate. My challenge is finding men who line up with my beliefs regardless of which side of the aisle they're on. Both sides are batshit crazy in their own ways IMHO. I describe myself as scientifically liberal (climate change and COVID are real) but socially conservative (pro-traditional family, pro-life with rape/health exceptions, etc.) Men who align with my scientific beliefs think I'm a prude because of my social values. Those who align with my social values think I'm an evil…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 11:55 AM
3

And those "helpful" comments are anything but. I ate my feelings that were caused by mean girls saying shit to me about my weight. Also, Mom, don't blame me for my weight when you, the adult, are the one who buys and cooks the food in this house. I'm 10, I can't drive myself to the farmer's market for fresh, organic produce and come home to cook a meal from it. You also work all the time and keep junk food in the house. I'm a bored only child, latchkey kid. What do you think's going to happen?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 04:48 PM
1

No. Growing up religious and being demisexual didn't allow me to do that. I had no desire to even when I did lose weight. If anything, my motivation to lose weight was to feel better about myself and get other girls to not be so mean to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 12:28 PM
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IDK, as a former fat girl, I got a lot more shit from other women (including my own mother) than men re: my weight. Men just ignored me. Like, I was invisible to the opposite sex throughout high school and college because of my weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 11:49 AM

To be fair, I probably hang out in a different part of the gym as a woman (yoga class v. weight room). Also, I'm what you'd call old at 33.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 11:31 AM

The lack of effort required to engage in them seems to be the prevailing problem. I do think this plays a role, especially with young men, which is the demographic I'm trying to meet more of. There's a reason there are more women than men in a lot of social spaces (church, gym, etc.) Why go out when you can escape into video games and porn at home?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 06:24 PM
6

Don't worry, plenty of folks are still looking for fun. Hell, I'd say the vast majority.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 05:58 PM
-1

To me, yes. I have female friends, but only trust them as far as I can throw them despite carefully vetting them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 04:13 PM
9

I'd add, being too nice. As a lifelong victim of mean girls, I have a healthy distrust of other women. In my experience, the nicer a woman is to your face, the worse she is to you behind your back. Whenever I hear someone go off about how women should support women, I want to run in the opposite direction far and fast. They do not support women, except maybe those in their inner circle.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 04:06 PM
4

Joke's on you, I've been looking to settle down since high school as a girl who grew up in a Christian home. I only went to college as divorce insurance and to find a spouse. Nobody wanted to settle down then either. Now, at 33, I get why one wouldn't want to be tied down in HS/college but at 33, your wild oats should be sown already. Grow TF up already! I've already lowered my standards to hell. Hygiene and manners seem to be shit nobody can do anymore. Also, the nerdy guy seems to prefer video…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 03:36 PM

Capitalism in that we're overworked and underpaid so can't socialize and meet partners organically like our parents and grandparents did? Yes. Only retirees and students can socialize anymore. My mom's horribly outdated advice to me is to go out and volunteer to meet men and if that doesn't work, I can meet a nice boy at church. Even at 33, I'm the youngest person in most of these rooms. The bar scene isn't much better. I live in a college town so my options are to hangout with barely legal coll…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 03:29 PM
8

I didn't want this. I sure as hell didn't sign up for it. I "lucked out" by being born at the wrong time.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 03:23 PM
23

Hell, I'd argue 18-45. I'm 33 and the number of men around my age (30-40) still looking for fun on dating apps is too damn high. Can't speak to other women as I'm a straight woman myself, but it's frustrating AF when you want a relationship and nobody else does.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 03:13 PM
-1

All humans should have the ability to have children if they want them regardless of gender. I'm personally against elective abortion (anything not related to health concerns or rape), so it colors my view a bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 02:50 PM
-4

The father's opinion should be factored into the mother's decision (which it ultimately should be as she's directly impacted), as should that of a healthcare professional, in some situations. For example, abortion for health concerns in the mother or the child. The father should be aware of the situation and have his concerns considered, especially if they may have a child with a disability. As for elective abortions, it takes two to tango. If the father wants a child, he shouldn't be deprived o…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 02:46 PM
-3

Depending on the circumstances... In the case of abuse or rape, no. In a healthy, consenting relationship, yes, the father should have a say. It takes two to tango.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 02:38 PM
7

Right... IDK if it's genetic as much as it is cultural. Church and family pressure with regards to relationships, sex, and other such concepts are real. They had more of an impact in the past, but they did.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 05:46 PM
2

I taught in public schools, specifically Title 1 schools.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 02:39 PM
1

It's not just me. It was other female teachers, too. A female teacher can be yelling, head spinning, and spitting fire, and she will not command a boy's attention and be able to discipline him the way a man can by virtue of being a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 01:45 PM
3

There's a big difference between Jackass (stupid stunts) and Andrew Tate (spreading actual misogyny and hateful ideas about women).
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 12:32 PM
7

I disagree. Fatherless homes are the basis of a lot of our society's ills. It's why internet personalities like Andrew Tate thrive. We have a generation of men raised by women and it's not a good thing. I taught high school computer science pre-pandemic and saw this for myself. Many students came from single moms or Mom was the default parent. Teaching is a female dominated profession. My male students worshipped my male colleagues and disrespected me. It makes sense when you think about it. Boy…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 12:10 PM
6

You have to be from a culture that women consider interesting but close enough to their own culture that its safe and be considered conventionally attractive by the standards of her culture. I've mostly dated outside my race as a white American woman. I'm scientifically liberal (COVID and climate change are real), educated (master's), and socially conservative (pro-traditional family) You're not wrong but I'd add one's own values factor in. I grew up as a conservative Christian. The men I've dat…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 11:20 AM
2

Okay, I'll admit to IG. Those cute family accounts get me every time.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 01:48 AM
0

This is another factor. As a millennial, my generation was the first to have nearly unlimited access to internet porn from a young age. It ruined our men (and those after us). Pre-COVID, I used to teach high school computer science including a unit on media literacy (including porn/social media and body image issues). Porn gives boys and young men false ideas about women and relationships. Real women don't look like that. Just because she's not screaming and squirting like the girl in the video,…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 04:45 PM
1

Exactly this! I've briefly dated (but not slept with) several men since my ex left in 2018. I'm demi, so need an emotional connection before a physical one. I find they get frustrated and disappear when you don't put out as quickly as they'd like. While it may be a problem solving itself, it's still frustrating AF.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 04:24 PM
2

If you find him, send him my way. Seriously, I'd sign up for an arranged marriage willingly at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 04:18 PM
6

I tried to pursue the "good boys" at church and they were nonexistent. I hate how my parents' only dating advice was that I could "meet a nice boy at church." There are no nice boys there! The few men there were dragged there by their wives. The odd single man I've encountered at church has turned out to be an abuser or fuck boy who follows Tate/Trump more than Christ. Just because someone calls themselves a Christian doesn't make them a good person.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 04:11 PM
2

I didn't have "fun" even in my teens-20s. I grew up religious and have always "dated to marry." I went to college pursuing my "MRS Degree," which, I didn't get, because nobody wanted to be "locked down" then. However, you should be over that shit by the time you're 30. I get men can father babies until they die, but there's a limit.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 04:08 PM
4

Female counterpart, here. We are single because the men don't seem interested in being in relationships with us. Using us for sex? Yes, thanks to porn giving them shitty ideas about women. But a relationship? No. Nobody wants a commitment anymore. The number of men ages 30+ on dating apps just looking for "fun" is too damn high. Grow TF up already! Never mind that having two incomes would help with life being expensive and having a partner to do life with would make it less scary. Emphasis being…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 01:51 PM
27

Agreed... The lying flat movement in China comes to mind. Why bother with life when it's crazy and expensive? Especially when you can escape using video games and porn in mom's basement.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 10:31 AM

Honestly, yes. Not being able to find love and commitment in this clown world makes me question what the point is. If it could also take away any desire to have kids as well, that would be even better.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 10:30 AM

I recently learned I was demisexual. So, I get to play a fun game of "is it demi or purity culture?"
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 10:34 AM

I am a woman and I strongly distrust my own gender. After being a lifelong victim of mean girls, it's hard not to.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 12:14 AM
17

Just how much the shit you learned growing up shows up to haunt you and how it affects your relationships. This is especially true if you're female and grew up in church.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 09:42 PM
0

No, they're just being dicks.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 09:17 PM
0

Yes, because expecting me to do all the work is exhausting. For example, expecting me to call/text him and plan dates. I know it's 2023, but I want to be pursued. I'm pretty sure my Grandma wasn't expected to pursue my Grandpa the way these dudes expect me to pursue them. I'd be happy with at least 50/50.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 08:24 PM

I live in a fairly conservative area, so that may have more to do with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 02:52 PM

No, women, despite it being 2023, are called clingy and crazy if we make the first move with men. That's why we don't do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 02:08 PM
11

No, but toxic men are so good at hiding their shit that their facade is attractive to us.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 01:46 PM
1

Laughs hysterically as a lifelong victim of mean girls... Women are downright vicious and will throw each other under the bus.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 09:13 PM

Right? But you'd think most people would want a family, no? I'm not the only one who wants this, but it seems to be rare AF today. Most folks my age are married with kids (and have been since I left college at 22), so clearly, they had to get together somehow.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 04:55 PM

Uh, yes, it does. Some of us want families and marriage. Sow your wild oats, but remember, you don't want to be in your 40s-50s chasing a toddler or be unable to have kids because you "waited" too long because you were busy having "fun." My parents were a confirmed bachelor/bachelorette until I came along and ruined their "fun" when they turned 40. It was hell for all involved and I was blessed to be born healthy (look at the stats re: autism/Downs' and older parents).
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 04:48 PM

Yeah, I never had "fun" in my teens and 20s. I was a good Christian girl who planned to marry early and have a big family as a SAHM. I only went to college as "Divorce Insurance." Life (modern hookup culture) had different plans apparently. Also, I used to be fat in my teens - early 20s (lost weight in college), so I wasn't getting much "attention" or at least positive attention. I get a dude not wanting to be "locked down" in high school or college, but at 35? Grow TF up, already!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 04:45 PM

As someone (33F) looking for a real, honest to goodness relationship in this clown world (and has been since I was your age), let me play you the world's tiniest violin. Casual sex is easy to find today. A real relationship and commitment are not. Though, I can empathize with you about the 35+ year old men. The number of men my age still looking for "fun" on dating apps is too damn high. Your wild oats should be sown by now. You're 35. Grow TF up already! Sigh...
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 03:57 PM
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And it's total BS! It's your own damn house. You should be able to wear what you want in it. And Mom should vet who comes into the house better because rapists aren't usually the creepy stranger in the dark alley. What I find ironic now is the emphasis on stranger danger I got from my parents and other adults growing up in the 90s. Meanwhile, nobody acknowledged the family child molester.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 03:36 PM
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Or, if you have a mother like mine, she'll tell her daughter to change her clothes because there are men in the house but deny when one of her friends tries to rape the daughter because he's a good Christian man and she's a filthy whore. Never mind that the filthy whore daughter was wearing a parka, turtleneck, and jeans, and sure as shit wasn't "asking for it."
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 03:24 PM
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Not fear, but distrust. As an SA survivor, I don't trust men. As a lifelong victim of mean girls, I don't trust other women. I just don't trust people, regardless of gender, until they prove themselves trustworthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 10:48 AM
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Laughs at #2... I know so many people whose parents are just now getting divorced now that the kids are grown. Peer pressure is strong in some communities.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 11:00 AM

Oh, so much... My desire to marry young came from the fact that my parents were the fun, single aunt and uncle until I came along and ruined their lives at 40. They had a hellish relationship that I was caught in the middle of until they split when I was 10. Now that I'm over 30 and single, I'm terrified of turning into them and putting another kid through hell. Next is race. I take after my dad (blonde hair, fair skin, blue eyes). We don't have a good relationship. My mom's side of the family u…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 03:12 PM

I've heard all of these before... About the family friend who SA-ed me, from my own mother.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 12:43 PM
3

Exactly, which is why whenever certain feminists bring up the idea of a matriarchal world, it terrifies me. Whenever someone goes on about women supporting women, I want to run for the hills. As a lifelong victim of mean girls, I could see it turning into a shit show.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 08:55 PM
11

Agreed... Hell, other women don't need to be attractive to be resented by their fellow woman. As a lifelong victim of mean girls, I have a healthy distrust of other women. I've also worked in both male (tech) and female (teaching) dominated fields. I was treated far worse by my female colleagues in the classroom than I ever was by the men I worked with. It's not just because the men wanted sex either. I'm average looking at best. The men I worked with were all married, middle aged dads who had n…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 08:53 PM
9

Tell that to the so called pro-choice feminists in my life...
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 04:00 PM
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This, too. Unfortunately, I fell into that lie and it cost me 5 years of my life and $40k. I only went to college as divorce insurance at the urging of my teachers and parents. I now work in a field I didn't study. Before my career change, I was dedicated to my teaching career. Ex used to bitch about my devotion to my career. He left me for a woman who gets to be a SAHM which destroyed my self esteem. We need to teach our girls better. Build a life for yourself that works for you. Also, we shoul…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 12:25 PM
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I agree with you having been in a female dominated profession (teacher). As a result, I have a healthy distrust of other women after being a lifelong victim of mean girls, including my own mom. I actually aspired to be a SAHM growing up. I question if women really are free today because of the expectations on us that our grandmas didn't have (have it all, lean in, etc.) While I believe other women have the choice to do what they want with their bodies, for myself, I'm pro-life with exceptions fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 12:20 PM
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And the pandemic shined a light on this for me. Even among my more progressive friends, mom was the default parent. Anything dad did was considered babysitting. It's BS.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 06:14 PM
0

Laughs hysterically... I could never say this IRL, but I wonder if women are freer today than we were in our grandmothers' time. Grandma was only expected to stay home with the kids. Today, women are expected to "lean in" and "have it all" and still look smoking hot while doing it. And it's bloody exhausting! Meanwhile, standards haven't changed for men (just work).
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 05:55 PM
1

Overweight woman... A broke man can get a job. Losing weight is hard! Even after you lose the weight, you'll still see that fat person in the mirror.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 04:58 PM
4

No, but as a fellow only child, I feel like it has screwed me over in understanding the opposite gender. I also had divorced parents and lived with mom, who even 20 years later, still didn't date anyone else after dad split. Most of my formative years were spent around people of my own gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 06:05 PM
1

I'm not promiscuous. I'm over 30 and find myself that way because nobody wants a commitment in our modern hookup culture. I also look much better now than I did when I was supposed to have been "young and hot." I lost weight in college but used to be fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/23 04:43 PM
4

Some of those podcast men tell other men NEVER marry because its bad. Yet tell women that they must get married before 25 or else...WHO IS GOING TO MARRY THESE WOMEN??? This is exactly my problem! Nobody wants a commitment anymore, but they also bitch about women hitting the "Wall." Men get frustrated and disappear when I don't put out as soon as they'd like, but if I did "put out" I'd be slut shamed and considered to be "ran through." You're damned if you do, damned if you don't. Men, make up y…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/23 03:51 PM
1

I'm in my 30s.. I've been out of college 10 years. We should be over it by now. Sigh..
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 10:00 AM
11

Actually, it makes sense. I have no idea who my neighbors are. My parents know their neighbors all by name. Their social advice is grossly outdated. I'm the youngest person in the room in any social opportunity (gym, church, volunteering, etc.) I'm definitely not going to find anyone to date there. Mom was wrong. I can't just meet a nice boy at church. There are no nice boys there. I've made a few female friends, but even those are rare to find.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 08:24 PM
2

Yup! That was my problem, too. I used to be fat. I didn't lose the weight until college. I'm average looking at best now and was then. Unfortunately, even if you do get interest from men, they get frustrated and disappear when you don't "put out" as quickly as they'd like. Nobody wants a commitment anymore!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 04:24 PM
1

Yes, I'm in the states and dating immigrants.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 05:01 PM
2

I don't do celebrity crushes. I'm demi, so wired different. For example, fundie lite teenage me didn't give two fucks about football, but loved Tim Tebow because of his commitment to purity.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 02:40 PM
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Just not interested. I find people attractive on a case by case basis. Though, I do find men who look similar to me (blonde, blue eyed, fair skinned) to be too familiar to the point of it feeling incestuous.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 02:33 PM
2

Yes, but he was the instigator.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 02:28 PM
1

Yes and I was definitely not a high earner. Teachers are paid shit. I was making $35k/yr.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 02:24 PM
2

I wanted to be a SAHM. I only went to school to be a teacher thinking I'd have the same schedule as my future kids. I didn't. A career was a divorce insurance policy for me, not my primary goal.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 02:21 PM
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Those who come for their own education and careers in the states. My friend has a master's in biology and recently married a Pakistani man who was in her graduate program. I've dated mostly Persians for Middle Easterners.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 01:06 PM
4

I have several friends in mixed relationships. We live in a college town with two hospitals, so we have a decent immigrant population as a result. Support among my social circle is mixed. My friends in mixed relationships get it. They're highly educated but also fairly religious and politically moderate. However, I have super liberal friends who think I'm a slave and player in my own oppression for wanting a more traditional lifestyle with a "misogynist." My more conservative Christian family an…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 01:01 PM
2

Joke's on you, I'm demi and need an emotional connection before a sexual one. Hence the social conservative values. Not into hookups.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 12:56 PM
11

Don't hang me, but I just don't find them attractive. I'd be open to a black dude if I found one attractive and we shared common values. However, I've yet to meet one.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 12:50 PM
3

Yes, one dude once told me I'd educated myself out of the gene pool for having an advanced degree. I've also had men who complained about my devotion to my teaching career who ended up leaving me for a woman who got to be a SAHM.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 12:49 PM
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Am a female passport bro. It's not about sex but finding someone who shares my values. Most of the men I've dated have been Middle Eastern, Indian, or Hispanic. I'm White and American. I also hold a master degree. I have political views that can be described as socially conservative and scientifically liberal. So, I believe in vaccines, climate change, and the traditional family model. White American men who share my social views don't share my scientific beliefs. They also see my education as a…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 02:46 AM

Am female and crave comfort and security. Apparently, that makes me a unicorn.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 12:51 PM
0

I don't know. It's not like I ever followed the men I was with into the bathroom.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 07:07 PM
3

Rural Maine, so a lot of backwards people here.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 09:50 PM
9

I have no idea... But I recently learned about men who think wiping their ass is gay. That haunts me.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 06:37 PM
6

1-3 doesn't even factor into my satisfaction with singleness as a woman. What does factor in is not having to raise a man baby who can't wipe his own ass at best or being controlled/abused (I was in an abusive relationship before) at worst.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 05:15 PM
2

Marriage and family, which apparently are tools of oppression for women, depending on who you ask.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 01:01 PM
7

Yup! I'm a woman and am in this boat. I'd prefer a more traditional lifestyle. Which, apparently, makes me a traitor to my gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 02:06 AM
3

Abusive parents and partners, being picked on at school, a combination of things.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 10:26 PM
3

Well, shit, I guess my ideal partner is an abusive prick who constantly puts me down for my body, cooking, and housekeeping skills. I've struggled with self-esteem for most of my life. I'm also the most loving, caring, giving person to others. I just never get it in return. The whole "you have to love yourself before you can love someone else" line is BS. I don't want anyone to feel the way I feel about myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 02:41 PM
0

Depends on the woman. I do. But apparently, that makes me a prude and traitor to my gender, depending on who you ask.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 02:32 AM
1

Ooh, I'm a white American (raised conservative Christian and planned on continuing that lifestyle) and my ex was from India. The woman he left me for is an arranged marriage, so they're "equally yoked" as my mother would say. While the "what could've been" stings, the questioning if Mom was right and I should've "stuck to my own kind" hurts even more.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 09:25 PM
1

I get that. I'm glad I'm able to keep my head above water, albeit barely. While I do envy her on the hard days, the further away I get from that relationship, the more I pity her for being stuck in hell with no way out.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 07:53 PM
1

Not directly, but it makes dating more challenging than it needs to be. I'm tired of men disappearing because I won't put out as quickly as they'd like. I'm tired of swiping left on the Peter Pans just looking for "fun." We're in our 30s. Your wild oats should be sown by now! Grow TF up! I want a real, honest to goodness relationship, not a hook-up. I feel like I'm the only one. I just want to be respected as a person, not a sex object.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 07:20 PM
4

I know that and it kills me. I wanted to be a SAHM. I went to school to be a teacher as divorce insurance. I thought I'd have the same schedule as my future kids. I didn't. I often joke I'd leave myself for her if I could.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 04:40 PM
-1

Apparently, I'm too educated and men find that intimidating. I have a master's degree as a woman. Never mind that I'm working in a field I didn't study in. Or even have any kind of career at all. My ex left me for a woman with a GED who gets to be a SAHM. Being more educated means I have a more nuanced view on things. Which, doesn't work in our politically divided society. I'm too conservative for the liberals and too liberal for the conservatives. I just want someone who is a decent human being…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 03:05 PM
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Neither do women. I am a woman. I have been called a prude and traitor to my gender for having more conservative views of sex by people of all genders. Men call me a prude for not putting out as soon as they'd like (or at all) before disappearing. Women accuse me of slut shaming and being a pick me. I'm also demisexual, so need an emotional connection before a physical one. I was also raised as a conservative Christian, which shapes my views. I see modern sex positivity as degrading to women. Yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 02:29 PM
1

Not dating the shitty men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 09:56 PM
2

1 out of 5 Gen. Z's identify as LGBTQ, so I'd say redefining it?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 03:19 PM
-2

Go on the internet as a woman and you'll see why. Incels and mgtow are things. Sure online dating is an option but we have to sift through piles of shit to find one good person. We have to worry about unsolicited dick pics at best and actual murder at worst.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 02:22 PM
36

Yup! As a woman, I get odd looks, especially from other women, for wanting a more traditional lifestyle. Apparently, that makes me a slave to the patriarchy and traitor to my gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/23 01:05 PM
0

And that's the terrifying part. I just listened to the Behind the Bastards Andrew Tate series. It mentioned a school that had to bring in cult deprogrammers to work with the kids. I used to teach before the pandemic. This made me grateful to be out of the classroom because I honestly have no idea how I'd deal with that shit. No teacher is paid enough to deal with that shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 03:09 PM
1

Yes! My parents always wanted a boy and made sure I knew it. I'm their only child and a girl. If I were a boy, I know they'd love me more or at least, take me more seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 03:45 PM
4

I am a single woman and have no desire to choose single parenthood via IVF after seeing the hell my own parents went through as divorced parents. However, I'm open to adoption and foster care (which comes with some state support). I think we should promote adoption or fostering to those who choose to be single parents by choice. So many kids are awaiting good homes in foster care, and I think it's just selfish to do IVF when you consider this fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 02:32 PM
4

30s-40s, but I can't imagine they were much better in their 20s.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 07:40 PM
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Not WGTOW, but as a straight woman, I don't blame them. I think it's a response to the pandemic shining a light on the fact that we're not as advanced as we think we are when it comes to labor division and gender. I'm single, but most of my friends are married with kids. From my observations, even when both parents were home, and even among my more "progressive" friends, Mom was the default parent 90% of the time. Dad was praised for doing the bare minimum, which he'd refer to as "babysitting," …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 06:51 PM
0

There already is for "bachelors" of all genders. Singles without dependents are the highest taxed group in the US. It pisses me off because if we need help of any kind funded by said tax dollars (food stamps, Section 8, etc.) we get nothing but the middle finger because we have no kids. I swear, I've considered having kids solely for tax reasons as people with kids get tax credits and government benefits (COVID benefits, etc.)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/23 07:49 PM
6

Online stuff doesn't bother me as I can just put down the phone or computer and walk off. However, having been with someone who was a controlling misogynist has made me more careful in dating again as I now know the red flags that I both ignored and was ignorant of in my last relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 03:43 PM
-6

Only because we get called clingy or crazy for actually shooting our shot despite it being 2023.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 01:47 PM
1

r/siblingsordating
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 01:36 PM
-4

I am a woman and I agree with you here.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 12:49 PM
1

Pretty sure these same parents and teachers would've laughed at me for and discouraged me from pursuing an advanced degree in STEM because it's not a traditionally female career path, but okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/22 08:24 PM
1

No kidding... Though, oddly enough, I now work outside of the field I went into (tech instead of teaching), so part of me still wonders if it was a waste of time and money. I didn't want to go to college. I wanted to be a SAHM. My parents and teachers pushed me into it as "divorce insurance." I chose teaching thinking I'd have the same schedule as my future kids. I didn't. My ex bitched about how much time I'd spend on school outside of school. I can't say that his current wife being a SAHM was …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/22 07:00 PM
0

I prefer having someone who sees my education (Master's, but in education a "traditional" female trade as I only went to college as "divorce insurance") as an asset, not a threat. Unfortunately, less educated men tend to see educated women as threats. Hell, some educated men see educated women as threats. My ex has a PhD in computer science and the woman he left me for and is now married to has no education past high school.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/22 05:11 PM
1

We may not bring condoms on dates (though, I know some gals do) but we're expected to pump our bodies full of hormones, or get some device implanted, or track our cycles, or pick between hundreds of equally shitty methods, even if we're in committed relationships. Meanwhile, men can get hundreds of women pregnant per year and have a choice between the shittiest (condom) or most permanent (vasectomy) methods that they don't even use. Men can and do take off condoms during sex or complain they don…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/22 04:04 PM
0

Also, I do remember there being talk of a pill. Still, we've had the pill for women for 50ish years. It's about time men get one, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/22 02:58 PM
2

Also, as a woman, I think it's utter BS all responsibility falls on us. It's 2022, why don't men have more birth control options?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/22 02:46 PM
4

Smaller living space at 3X what I pay in rent. The closest major city to me is Boston and rent is as much as my take home pay is per month. I literally wouldn't be able to afford to do anything else. And at 30 something years old, the idea of splitting 2 BR apt. w/4 roommates while still paying $1K/mo. for a twin bed and a shared bathroom doesn't hit for me. It's the ultimate catch-22.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 04:35 PM
14

If you live in a small town where everyone knows each other, and most don’t leave, maybe going to church or the local drinking hole or tennis club might get a whole bunch of results. Tinder is pointless in places like this, everyone swipes through every prospect that exists within 50 miles in one night. So of course more people will meet locally and of course more people will settle because options are slim and the economy is quaint so you’re not chasing high earners….so it’s fairly chill….your …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 02:20 PM
1

Church... In my experience, women greatly outnumber men at church.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 08:38 PM
1

Plus other religions have arranged marriages. Can't really get much easier than that. And I'm so damn sick of modern dating that I'd gladly sign up for one.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 07:38 PM
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Religious men also have their place of worship as a potential venue for meeting women. Based on mere numbers, yes, but the opposite is not true (women looking for men). In most churches, women greatly outnumber men, regardless of relationship status. If you're a single woman looking for a man in church, good luck! In nearly every church I've ever visited or attended, single men close to my age were basically nonexistent. Worst of all, single women over a certain age are either ignored at best or…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 07:37 PM
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A mix of other women and men themselves. However, I do mostly hear it from other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 07:30 PM
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Hell, I'm a millennial and I'm not a fan of "open" marriages. I have too many jealousy issues for that shit. That said, can we please give poly people of all kinds their own app? It would save me so much time swiping on Tinder as I wouldn't have to comb through all the couples looking for a third or ENM folks or whatever other BS title they give themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 06:54 PM
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r/whenwomenrefuse would like to have a word with you...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 06:38 PM
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Former computer science teacher... Monitor the hell out of their internet use. Internet porn has ruined generations of men, which is my biggest struggle dating as a millennial woman. I'm sure it's why I'm still single in my 30s. Kids get exposed to this BS younger and more frequently than ever before.
/r/RedPillWomen15/12/22 03:52 PM
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Yes, I would. As a woman, I find it rather annoying that, despite it being 2022, I'm labeled as "clingy" or "crazy" if I approach a man I'm interested. Meanwhile, men do not approach me at all, and it sucks. It would end a lot of frustration about dating (my own and in society as a whole) if people of all genders could make the first move if they're interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 09:43 PM
1

Considering the still shockingly high child and maternal death rate in the states, despite being a developed country, I'm all for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 03:24 PM
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Incel and right-wing online communities... Google it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 10:06 PM
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Or are they watching Red Piller and incel shit on TikTok? Former high school computer science teacher who had units on social media safety and media literacy for this reason. You know damn well they're consuming incel BS on TikTok and other social media platforms. It's why I encourage parents, especially those of teen boys, to monitor the hell out of their kids' internet use. I honestly find this trend disturbing. Yet, not surprising, as we have whole generations of men raised by women with no p…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 02:29 PM
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No, shit. Add to that, it can be dangerous. We have to worry about unsolicited dick pics at best and actual murder at worst. It sucks!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 06:58 PM
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Yes! I'm tired of being called clingy or crazy for making the first move as a woman despite it being 2022. Mostly by men, but other women are equally guilty of promoting this crap. Anyone should be able to make the first move regardless of gender. To be fair, I'm also an elder millennial who grew up watching "Boy Meets World" and thought it was totally badass when Topanga proposed to Cory. This was in the 90s! We should be more advanced as a society by now. It would end a lot of frustration arou…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 02:16 PM
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This really depends. In my experience, the opposite is true. This may also be gendered as I'm female, but if anything, I've worked harder to be a good partner but received nowhere near the efforts I've put in in return. It's downright exhausting! I learn to cook my mate's favorite food, take an interest in their interests (even if I don't really care about them), and modify my behavior to fit their desires in an attempt to do everything "right" and not end up like my parents. I guess that makes …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 04:01 PM
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Hell, no! As a lifelong victim of mean girls, I can tell you that most women actually hate their friends (or at least the women they call friends) and see them as competition. Most of the backstabbing and BS I've experienced has been from other women, even as an adult in the workplace. As a result, I have a healthy distrust of other women. Women are quick to drop friends when they no longer serve them or find something better to hold their interests. As a single, most of my female friends abando…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 03:52 PM
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Yes, I was a conservative Christian. I grew up during the purity culture of the 90s-00s. Conveniently, this provided a cover for my demisexuality, which wasn't revealed, even to myself until I hit 30. I thought I was somehow better than everyone else. Like, I had much stronger willpower for not giving into the temptations that everyone else fell into by simply following the rules. I was a self righteous, religious ass about it well into my 20s. I had no idea why it was so hard for everyone else …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 03:14 PM
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No, we just think that's the case because the abuser makes us feel so shitty about ourselves that we think we don't deserve better and won't get better.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 10:55 PM
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Ugh, I was a conservative pick me girl in my teens - 20s. I still struggle with these tendencies in my 30s. You're not wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 03:33 PM
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Which is exactly what I've been doing. So many folks who call themselves Christians, well, don't act like it (racism, misogyny, abuse, etc. seem rampant among so-called "Christian" men) but indoctrination and pressure from parents can really mess with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 07:00 PM
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Not sure, but I was "off the market" in 17 and had been a few years before, so couldn't speak to that. When I found myself suddenly single the next year (18), I thought I'd walked through the gates of hell. I'm still stuck in the circles of dating hell 5 years later. Though, I'd argue that the pandemic was the turning point. We've just spent the past two years "inside" and are now relearning how to interact in the "outside" world. Lots of folks still work from home, so no "organic" meeting that …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 05:48 PM
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Christians dating non-Christians hoping they'll be able to convert them Oof... I was one of those Christians. The term for it is "Missionary Dating." Fed up with my lack of options in church for men, I started looking outside the church. I thought if I could get the men I was pursuing to "taste and see that the Lord is good" I could win them over. It didn't work. If anything, it ended up biting me in the ass. That said, it comes from really toxic teaching that women are supposed to be the spirit…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 02:46 PM
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There is a smaller percentage of people (especially young people) who are religious than ever before in human history. And this is my biggest challenge in dating. The advice my parents gave me, which worked for their generation, was to meet a nice boy at church. Well, there are no "nice boys" at church. The few men there are at church are married. This is why I turned to dating non-Christians, which bit me in the ass after I was left for an arranged marriage. I began questioning if Mom and Dad w…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 02:42 PM
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I used to be one. I thought he had some really great points about personal responsibility and life. Now? I think he's just gone off the deep end trying to appeal to certain political groups.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 12:29 PM
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Same is true the opposite way. I live in a conservative, predominantly white community. I prefer dating outside of my race, so I get all the leftover brown men that no other white women around me want.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 10:55 PM
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No, I only went to college as divorce insurance. Turns out I needed to use the insurance policy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 07:40 PM
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I have a master's degree. Despite this, I'm seen as a threat by my male colleagues rather than an asset.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 02:49 PM
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Yes! I'm not trans, but being a woman sucks. My parents always wanted a boy but instead got stuck with a girl (me) as their only child. They made this fact known to me even now as an adult. Despite being an only child and expected to care for them, I have no authority (POA/will executer) because I lack "life experience" (a penis of my own or spouse's) My aunt and uncle are instead. I'm taken less seriously by my parents, at work, and society at large. I'd just like to be able to buy a house/car,…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 12:12 PM
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Yes, but religious indoctrination and family pressure are a hell of a drug.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 11:14 AM
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I know how ridiculous it sounds, but in my experience, men are frustrated by my lack of "experience" and then there's also men who care about n count. Like, which is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 01:43 AM
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Highly doubtful
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 12:58 AM
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I have two cousins who are lesbians who were with men, had kids, and then left the men for other women. My straight male cousin was married to a woman who left him and their daughter for another woman. It's more conservative Christian upbringing/suppression of sexual experimentation in adolescence that manifests when those teens become unhappy adults who go out and "find happiness."
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 07:56 PM
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there are a lot of single women at mine. Single women, not single men!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 07:42 PM
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It makes me uncomfortable because several people in my family have claimed to be straight or bi, then left their partner for a partner of the same gender. Worst of all, they had children with these partners. We live in a rather conservative part of the world, so the kids are teased miserably for it. I'd be afraid to end up like any one of my cousins or their partners (in the case of my lesbian cousins who left their kids' dads for other women).
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 07:27 PM
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Laughs as single woman who has left church because of the lack of options for men. Women greatly outnumber men in church. And most church folks are married. The church treats those who are single past a certain age (25) like dog shit, especially single women. We're ignored at best, or actively discriminated against at worst.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 07:18 PM
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Maybe not as it did in the past (folks stick to "their own kind," Catholic vs. Protestant, etc.) but it does still play a role. I see it now as a source of trauma for millennials/Gen. X who grew up in the Satanic Panic of the 80s/90s and Purity Culture of the 90s/00s. I'm one such millennial. My religious trauma hid my sexuality (demi) from me until my 30s. As a woman, I grew up in purity culture where I was taught my value was tied to my virginity. I sat through lessons where I was taught that …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 07:16 PM
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I made up a meme with it reversed and if the woman did a sexual act she got a star and then a financial reward at the end. Part of me wants to see this just to see how absurd both memes look next to each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 09:53 PM
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If it's not classed as such, it should be.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 09:09 PM
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And there shouldn't be! It's 2022, we should be more advanced as a society by now. As much as I'd like to find my "person," the idea of working two shifts a day (my 9 to 5 and housework) and be expected to give "rewards" any time my partner does the bare minimum doesn't appeal to me much.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 04:06 PM
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For your viewing displeasure - https://www.reddit.com/r/HolUp/comments/vxjwrl/daddys\_sticker\_chart/
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 03:56 PM
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I feel this and hate how normalized it is in most straight relationships. I recently saw this meme of "Daddy's Sticker Chart" where the father had to perform certain household chores to get sexual "rewards" from the mother. It's gross! The pandemic shined a light on this, even among my more "progressive" friends. Like, maybe parent your kids and do chores around your own damn house without the expectation of a "reward" because you're an adult who lives there?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 03:33 PM
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When they're physically attractive but have shitty morals. Your mileage may vary with this one based on your own beliefs, but I've fallen for this one too many times. If they have a pretty face, but spew racist, sexist, and downright disgusting BS when they open their mouth, it's an instant turn-off. I've had to learn another language to interpret dog whistles on dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 04:45 PM
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And as a demi fed up with modern hookup culture, I'm here for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 01:24 PM
5

All of the above!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 08:53 AM
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On a related note, not all women are promiscuous! I didn't spend my teens and 20s riding the cock carousel. I would've happily settled down if the right dude showed up. In my 30s, I'm frustrated by the Peter Pans out there. I also only recently learned that I'm actually demisexual (needing an emotional connection before a physical one). My religious upbringing did a great job of hiding that. Thanks to the CC "red pill truth" I sometimes wonder if I'm "broken" and wished I'd "hoed around" more in…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 08:11 PM
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If anything, men think there's something wrong with you if you haven't in my experience. Many of the men I've had any interest in tend to get frustrated when I won't put out as quickly as they like and disappear into the void. Meanwhile, girls, especially in more conservative cultures, are taught their chastity is important to men. Which is it, then?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 03:24 PM
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I don't see myself as a unicorn. I did, however, question if I was "broken" for the longest time. Turns out, I'm just demisexual, meaning I need an emotional connection before a physical one. I grew up in church in the 90s-early 00s purity culture, so that provided a cover for my "wiring" and related behavior. If anything, part of me now wishes I'd "hoed around" more in my teens-20s so I'd have had "practice" for future relationships. Perhaps I wouldn't be single in my 30s as a result. Go figure…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 03:10 PM
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Men, mostly. I do live in a fairly conservative area, so that makes sense. Women tend to call me a pick me. I just think there has to be a better way than whatever modern dating culture is.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 03:12 PM
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How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 02:26 PM
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This is true, I'd argue, for all genders. Despite being 2022, I, as a woman, get called clingy or crazy if I approach a man I'm interested in. So, I don't bother. It sucks. I wish we were more advanced as a society. Despite having negative opinions of women who ask men out, men surely don't do anything to express interest. I wish men would pursue women like they did in the courtship my grandparents had.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 11:12 AM
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I'm sorry, but I'd want my own ring. My mom wants me to wear her wedding dress and quite frankly, I have no desire to. Her relationship with Dad was a shit show until they split. It has too much bad juju. Unless the grandparents were truly happily married until death did them part, I'd imagine the ring would be the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 11:00 AM
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Sounds like a lot of the advice I get from my mom... Her career advice? "You need to get out there and pound the pavement." Never mind that you're just looking for a restraining order if you actually try that. Even Wal-Mart asks you to apply for jobs online, so yes, I do need to spend time on the computer to look for work. Her dating advice? "You need to put yourself out there. I'm sure you'll meet a nice boy at church, volunteering, etc." Never mind that I've tried those things and there are no…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 08:21 PM
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This is another challenge I face making female friends. While I'm a rather intelligent woman with a lot of interests, I'm not seen as "woke" enough for these gals. No matter what you say or do, it's not "good" enough for them. It's exhausting.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 07:42 PM
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I'm a woman who works in the tech industry. Before that, I was a computer science teacher who also taught English as a Second Language (so have strong interests in other cultures). You're not wrong. It's my biggest challenge making female friends. It's always been that way. I was labeled "antisocial" by my kindergarten (mean Catholic nun) for preferring to read or play computer games than play dolls with the other little girls. They thought I was weird, and the feeling was mutual. I learned to r…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 07:39 PM
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Okay, then, explain incels and the violence they commit. I'd argue that's a form of YMS
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 01:52 AM
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Believe me, I have been to therapy. While I'm more comfortable with myself now than I was in my 20s, that thought still creeps into my head. I also can't wear certain kinds of clothing (ex. two-piece swimsuits) but that may also be because of being raised in Christian "modesty" culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 06:01 PM
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I'm a woman in my 30s. I've never felt desirable. As a teenager I was the fat kid. While I did lose the weight in college, I still see that fat kid in the mirror, even today.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 03:42 PM
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As a woman, it does. I know not all men are bad, but the few that are make you question everyone's motives. Even those who appear "good" on the outside can be anything but. My own rapist was a "good, Christian man" and a "pillar of the community."
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 01:11 PM
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Am woman, but agree. There should be some "gender exclusive" spaces. As a preteen girl, I wouldn't have been comfortable swimming or doing other scouting activities with a bunch of boys. Also, there are certain conversations that are better to have with someone of the same gender at that age (puberty/sex talk, etc.) It's a need for kids who may not have a same sex role model at home.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/22 12:31 PM
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Where are they? To be fair, I also live in a fairly "Conservative" area, so that may be a factor.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 04:10 PM
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Or at least, destigmatize it so people who are interested in each other can ask each other out regardless of gender. It's 2022! I, as a woman, should be able to ask a dude out that I'm interested in without being labeled as "clingy" or "crazy."
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 03:49 PM
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Mostly a lot of self-deprecating attitudes and behaviors.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 02:11 AM
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IDK about your family life, but I sure as shit wouldn't want to date my dad (or anyone like him for that matter). He wasn't the loving, caring protector you think. He was an abusive, misogynistic addict who used religion to cover up his shitty behavior. Mom wasn't much better.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 07:19 PM
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INTERESTING🤔 Men don't want their daughters to be doormats like they want their wives to be. Or, you grow up in a conservative, Christian family like mine where your father does want you, his daughter, to have those wifely features, and raises her as such. As a result, I'm still unlearning a lot of shit in my 30s.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 05:01 PM
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Then, what is it? If not, intimidation.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 07:24 PM
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It's not something that I do, but in observing my female friends, we think that somehow we'll change him and he'll come around if we're "good enough" and settle down with us. Hookup culture is how folks date today, so we think that if we do all the "right" stuff, we'll get that ring. See also the lyrics to "WAP" - "I don't cook, I don't clean, let me tell you how I got this ring."
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 05:39 PM
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It's not just rural, conservative men though. The man who left me for the younger, hotter, less educated gal who got to be a SAHM had a PhD in computer science and a great job in that field.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 05:36 PM
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Education.. I did a 5-year Bachelor of Ed/Master's of Ed fast track program. I only went to college as "divorce insurance" and saw teaching as a "Family Friendly" option.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 05:26 PM
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Maybe you've been looking in the wrong places, or for the wrong men? I do live in a rural, fairly conservative area, so there's a lot of backwards thinking among the general population here. I can't afford to leave, which sucks, but I've found luck with more educated professionals who move here, who are, for the most part, foreigners (Middle Eastern, Hispanic, etc.)
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 05:09 PM
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I think wanting to be stay at home, which requires men to uphold traditional responsibilities, drives away men. That actually makes sense. There are a lot of Peter Pans out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 05:08 PM
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Okay, then, why don't men like intelligent women? Or at least, those I've encountered.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 03:18 PM
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Same and I get the most sideways looks when I say this. I don't want to do "anything" I want a family. I only went to college as "divorce insurance" and went into teaching because I'd have the same schedule as my future kids. I didn't I spent all my free time on school which lead me ex to leave me for a less educated, more attractive woman who gets to be a SAHM. I envy the hell out of her for it and would pay big money to trade places with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 02:48 PM
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Being intelligent and educated as a woman is not valued in our society, as much as we like to say it does. I hold a Master's degree and was a gifted student growing up. As a girl, I did everything in my power to hide my intelligence. Even now, I regret going for my Master's. If I could trade my intelligence for being attractive, but dumb as a rock, I would! Men find it intimidating. Other women find you "weird" and "unrelatable" and will pick on you as such.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 02:15 PM
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Not really, but it's lead to a lot of issues I'm still working on in my 30s. I was the fat kid and as a result, didn't really date in high school. However, I lost the weight in college. No matter how old I get, I still see that fat kid in the mirror. I still can't wear a two-piece swimsuit to this day. Fortunately, there are cute one-piece options now. However, it doesn't erase the fact that pretty privilege is real and as a woman, I know damn well my life would be easier and have been different…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 02:23 PM
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Lucky for you, I was a woman fed and raised on the ideal of marrying an All American Man, but find them too familiar to the point of it feeling incestuous, so I actually prefer exotic men. I've mostly dated "exotic" men (Hispanic, middle eastern, etc.) We get shit for our preferences because of the whole replacement theory thing, but we're out there and we DGAF.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/22 03:56 PM
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He's 28? Christ! He looks like he's well into his 40s.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 02:18 PM
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Emotional connections... I'm demisexual woman, so I may be a bit biased. I also recently learned this was the case as I grew up in church and that provided a cover for it. That may also play a role as purity culture rules are more focused on women. Looking into it more, studies have shown that men are more visual whereas women are more emotional when it comes to sexual attraction. While there are exceptions to this rule, generally, this is the case. It's why modern dating is such a hellish exper…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 06:04 PM
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I'd rather deal with that than the BS I deal with in my female friendships (gossip, MLMs, general cattiness, etc.) I work in a male dominated field (tech) after working in a female dominated (education) one for the longest time. Most of these men are married, though. That said, I've never been sexually harassed or assaulted at work, even in a male dominated space. I get along better with my male colleagues than I ever did my female ones. There was so much high school, mean girls BS when I was wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 02:41 PM
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Not pretty. My cousin is 36 and never married. I'm terrified of ending up like her while my mom wishes I was more like her. She has an emotionally incestuous relationship with her mother. She's openly said Mama comes before any man in her life. It's disturbing. She calls/texts Mama 3x/day despite living in the same city and seeing each other often enough. She's had boyfriends, but they often grew tired of playing 2nd fiddle to Mama and started wandering. She's now taken the "God will bring me my…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 02:10 PM
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this is ESPECIALLY prevalent in certain races which will go unnamed I know exactly which races you're referring to here. My most serious relationship was with a dude from India. He ended up leaving for an arranged marriage because he couldn't grow a pair and stand up to Mommy. However, I see "Mommy" behavior happening in relationships of all races. The pandemic opened my eyes to it as even among my more "progressive" American friends, Mom was the default parent 90% of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 01:26 PM
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I don't have a son, but I've dated my share of Mama's boys, so speaking on that... I won't be offended if you put your partner first. It's what a healthy adult relationship looks like. Your future spouse doesn't want to play 2nd fiddle to their MIL. This leads to nothing but resentment. Also, your future spouse doesn't want to be your substitute Mommy. You're an adult, you're capable of cleaning your house and cooking for yourself. Also, it's not babysitting if it's your own damn kid.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 01:13 PM
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Or, if you grew up in church, sex is "bad" until you get dressed up, go to church, and say "I do" in front of your friends, family, and pastor. Then, as if by magic, you're supposed to become a sex god/goddess to keep your spouse from wandering. I grew up in the Christian purity culture of the 90s-early 00s. It messed me up in ways I'm still working on in my 30s.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 01:08 PM
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I'm a woman and don't like working with other women. I've been in female dominated fields (teaching) and it's toxic. Mean girls don't grow up after high school, they just turn into even meaner coworkers and bosses. I was a victim of mean girls all through school, so it was particularly triggering to me. Now, I work in tech, which is male dominated and it's better for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 01:27 PM
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I did try doing that and it kicked my behind. My most serious relationship was with an Indian Hindu who ended up leaving me for an arranged marriage. My family, friends, and church told me I "got what I asked for" by being in an "unequally yoked" relationship. Sometimes, I wonder if they're right.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 07:58 PM
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I was just a regular, run of the mill, nondenominational Protestant. Look up the numbers of men vs. women in all churches. Also, singles in church. Millennials are leaving the church, so my odds already weren't good to begin with. An interesting read on the topic, if you'd like. I find this to be a great depiction: https://relevantmagazine.com/faith/church/why-are-so-many-single-women-are-leaving-the-church/
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 07:44 PM
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I've gone to visit other churches and it's the same thing everywhere. There's more women than men. Good luck finding anyone who is single over the age of 25. People settle down fairly young, so singles are ignored at best and actively discriminated at worst because they're "outside of the norm." It sucks!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 06:50 PM
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No, but being treated like a 2nd class citizen for being single over a certain age and being told to only date within church while there were no single men to be found seems like a good reason to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 06:34 PM
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Probably not, but it depends on the family. Some families, like mine, will still shame their girls with spinster rhetoric. Others are more progressive and will encourage girls to have careers.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 06:00 PM
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I agree it is the end goal for most folks. However, girls have more options now than to just marry and be SAHMs. My grandmother openly admitted to not loving my grandfather when they married, but she had no other options for a career after WWII. If Grandma were alive today, she'd be able to go to college and have a career.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 05:47 PM
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Clearly, you've never been a desperate single Christian woman in church past the age of 25. I was and just wanted anyone to pick me. I'd look at people getting married and question how that happened for them. I'd be told to wait for God to bring me my husband by well meaning friends and family. There were no single men in my church (or any other I'd visited). Let's just say there's a reason I've since left church.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 05:44 PM
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Marriage, period. Our society teaches girls from a young age that marriage and motherhood are our "end goals."
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 05:37 PM
5

I just did the math and a child born today would be graduating from high school in 2040. I graduated during the recession of '08, which sucked in its own right, but climate change is going to be a different ball game.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 05:45 PM
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Or, considering the ethics of having children in the world we live in. COVID lead me to question if I really wanted kids as it hit when I was not feeling great about turning 30 as a single. Watching friends parent through the pandemic looked like hell to me and made me grateful to have only myself to look after among rising prices and supply shortages. I know, people have had babies during worse times (The Depression, WWII, etc.) but those times did end. I don't really see things getting better …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 01:47 PM
2

No, I'm average, I'd say. I'm just fed up with modern dating culture. I don't want a hook-up. I want a commitment and a family. I've been at this for 4 years. It sucks. Clearly, I'm doing something wrong. Meanwhile, my ex went back to India for an arranged marriage. He and his now wife seem happier than ever. I think there's something to the process with families helping to choose a mate for their child.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 12:46 AM
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IDK, but as a single woman fed up with dating apps, I'd welcome arranged marriage replacing Tinder (and other apps) in America.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 12:25 AM
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I think, to an extent, it is cultural. The pandemic shined a light on this among my straight, married friends. Even among my more progressive friends, Mom was the default parent 90% of the time, despite both parents being home. Dad would be praised for the very little he did, calling it "babysitting" despite it being his own damn kid.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 04:54 PM
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From what I can see, there's more "equality" in their relationships. My cousin was with a man before she was with her current girlfriend. She came out after giving birth to her ex's two kids. The woman she's with treats her way better than any man I've ever been with has treated me. She treats my cousin's kids like her own and they seem to share household chores equally. That's not to say that same-sex couples don't have their struggles. I have a friend who is a lesbian whose girlfriend recently…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 01:35 PM
2

This is accurate. Especially, when it comes to intelligence and personality. I'm average looking at best as a woman. However, I'm highly intelligent and have a decent career in tech. I have a Master's degree. Apparently, that's intimidating to a lot of men. Many of the men that do manage to show interest in me don't have any desire to "show me off" or be in a real relationship. They often disappear when they realize I won't put out as quickly as they'd like. I'm demisexual, so that may be a cont…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 02:24 PM
2

I'm demisexual. I need an emotional connection before a sexual one. However, I am straight and female, so my focus is on men. I grew up in church, which provided a great cover for this until I learned what it was in my 30s after my cousin shared an article on Facebook. As a result, modern dating has been a shit show. Men either get bored or frustrated and disappear into the void as soon as they realize I won't "put out" as quickly as they'd like. I know the right person will respect me for it, b…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 05:29 PM
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