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Awesome news, being a dad is amazing. Good luck man
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 04:08 AM
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It’s really offputting when women swear. I don’t think men should swear either, but it’s worse when women do it. Kind of like smoking.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 11:40 PM
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Neither of us think of best friend and spouse as the same thing. And yes, we are both very lucky :)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 07:52 PM
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For who? Other women? I know my wife and I are very lucky :)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 06:42 PM
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Anyone ever been unbanned from askreddit? They’re in desperate need of my answers
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 09:40 PM
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Look up the stats I mentioned in my previous comment. You knew exactly what you’re doing, racist. I won’t spell it out for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 01:43 AM
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Look up which races get the most abortions, and then look up the rates of crime and drug abuse for those same races And yes, I am ‘racist’
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 01:38 AM
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Basically i support abortion for people that are high risk for drug abuse, crime, and in general a net negative for society. And im pro life for strong family units Stop being racist
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 12:59 AM
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So you’ll do exactly what pro life people have wanted you to do all along? Sounds good to me ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 12:56 AM
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Maybe we should go back to teaching women that it’s not empowering to sleep with a guy who might make you a single mother
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 12:55 AM
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r/politics
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 03:29 AM
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This is a G rated thread. I’m sorry, I don’t make the rules...you’re going to have to take that kind of talk somewhere else.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 03:19 AM
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One may call a woman a whore, slut, thot, it all rolls off her like water off a raincoat. But call her a female and you will be astonished at how she recoils, how suddenly she shrinks back, ‘I’ve been found out.’
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 02:44 AM
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Don’t let females cloud your judgement brother. Do not trade volumes of the mind for perversions of the feet.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 10:59 PM
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Nearly 2/3 through November. Stay strong boys. Keep those females at bay.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 10:23 PM
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I stopped really pursuing female relationships when I got a gf (now wife). My best friends’ wives are my friends and I enjoy their company, but out of respect for my friends and for my wife, I would never hang out with them one on one. They are good friends though. But in general I don’t think the kind of close, hang out one on one type friendships are really possible with the opposite sex - they are almost never truly platonic, and if you’re in a committed relationship, it’s disrespectful to pu…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 05:17 AM
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I’d be totally fine with mothers getting a stipend from the government based on the number of children they have. The point is though that you get paid money by an employer. Before we had an economy your ‘pay’ for the work you did was the food and shelter you could get and create.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 07:41 PM
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Because when you’re cooking and cleaning inside of your home, there’s no third party that is going to have personal interest in that in order to pay you. Just like men don’t get paid for fixing up their own car for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 03:42 PM
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‘Women’s work’ consisted of cleaning and cooking inside of your own home. Who is going to pay you for that? Unless you get an allowance from your husband. Just because there’s not some third party giving you a paycheck doesn’t mean it’s lesser.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 03:03 PM
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But your great grandma tells you women never wanted to work in the first place
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 02:56 AM
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I’ve talked to plenty of older women who say that their moms/grandmas told them that in those days, most women didn’t want to work, or vote. It’s a shame the economy is at a point where women pretty much have to though. But men have never seen femininity as ‘lesser’ unless leadership qualities or physical ability are the only metrics you judge on.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 02:51 AM
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Maybe not good, but accurate
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 05:52 PM
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Not really but I would do it
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 12:49 AM
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How convenient, I just started a business where I do exactly that. Looking forward to doing business with you
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 12:09 AM
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“literally could not give less of a f about whether some slutty bimbo gets to abort her baby or not”. This is so awesome I almost can’t believe a woman said it. Props to your sister
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 10:38 PM
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I agree but I’m also annoyed by anyone who is ‘assertive’ in the office. Because usually they care about how things get done, what gets done, etc...which is really annoying because why do you care? Just do what the boss tells you and go home, no matter how inefficient or useless it is
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 10:33 PM
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What’s her relationship with her father like?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 09:16 PM
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Sex is easy, don’t let people fool you. You might not be ‘great’ the first time but everything you need to learn you can learn in like 1 hour.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 07:00 PM
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You’re right, I’m sorry. Us girls need to stick together.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 02:42 AM
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If thinking that women are not funny, emotionally irrational, and less intelligent than men makes me sexist, then yes, I am sexist!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 02:18 AM
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Owned :(
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 02:02 AM
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Downvote me, cowards.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 01:47 AM
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I kind of get this in certain situations. This can even apply if you aren’t rejected. Like when I was first dating my wife I wanted to make a good impression on her family, so I got my energy up to be outgoing with her relatives and make time for them. Now that we’ve been married a few years and the impression’s been made, I don’t really want to ever spend my free time visiting distant in laws at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 11:46 PM
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Slippery slope is real, just look at the LGBT stuff. Who cares?? Life is not as precious as we make it. You really don’t see how this could go wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 11:07 PM
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Yes, surely this kind of thinking will never get out hand
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 10:58 PM
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I’m not ‘complaining’ about your response, I’m telling you why I think it’s incorrect and where I think it comes from. So far you’re proving me right
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 01:48 AM
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It’s amazing how many of these people’s beliefs boil down to ‘haha take that mom/dad’
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 01:45 AM
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Any body modification other than pierced ears (only because those are so common). I don’t think I’ve ever seen a tattoo or piercing that made a woman look more attractive than she would be without it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 05:25 PM
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why shouldnt we ? If I can decide between misery and collective happiness, why would I choose the former? The reason none of this works is that happiness is completely subjective. For example, I can imagine it would make someone very happy if they could hoard all resources for themselves at the expense of everyone else. Even though that wouldn’t be good for a cooperative society. And it might make someone happy to steal something you have that they want. Would that be wrong? All of your argument…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 05:16 PM
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there are a lot of reasons to be conservative and a lot of meaning to be found outside of a religious world view and most people today are starved of meaning and therefore drown in hedonism and selfishness Ok, name one reason that isn’t just your personal subjective preference about how society should be ran. Most people are missing a sense of meaning precisely because they’re turning away from religion. If you were smarter you would realize that the need of the feeling of purpose in live can on…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 02:01 PM
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It is cognitive dissonance if you actually try to justify your conservative beliefs. The natural conclusion of atheism is that there’s no reason people shouldn’t simply do whatever they want whenever they want. Good luck convincing someone that humans exist by accident and for no reason, but that they also should follow any conservative principles. no, and I have no idea why you would think that. you dont have to take everything or nothing. I can be in favor of things that religious people are i…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 01:28 PM
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I value strength and vitality. I want my sense of power to come in healthy ways: hitting new goals, surpassing myself, going to the gym and having new records That’s what masculinity always was. Read writings by pretty much any great leader or great historical figure ever and those general ideas are usually the things they value in men and expect them to strive for. ‘Toxic masculinity’ is a term used by feminists (among others) to take actual bad behaviors and pretend like that’s what masculinit…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 04:46 AM
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conservative non religious How’s the cognitive dissonance treating you?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 11:49 PM
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Voting is worthless and has been a scam since before any of us were born. The only way to take a stand is to live life the way it should be lived, become a leader and influence the people around you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 11:20 PM
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It's enjoy the decline, not foolishly martyr yourself for the world that existed before it, So not being a defeatist degenerate is ‘martyring yourself’? Red pill is so gay. We’re in a decline partly because of weak men who won’t take a stand.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 11:16 PM
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If you dont want a kid, wear a condom so that your sperm isn't in someone else's body. If you don’t want a kid, don’t let someone else’s sperm enter your body
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 12:38 AM
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At this point you have to be being intentionally ignorant. We all know that the human language description of the laws, is not the same as the laws themselves. The fact that you can’t get past something so obvious is very telling.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 01:15 AM
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No one is claiming humans made up nature. Ok, so then the laws of nature are not made up by humans right? Or are going to continue confusing the principles with the words themselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 12:16 AM
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You really do not understand the difference between the laws themselves and our humans of the laws. The words ‘boiling point’ were made up by humans. The fact that water boils at a specific temperature, was not made up by humans. Laws of logic and laws of nature, the actual immaterial rules that the universe follows (not the words we use to describe them) were not made up by humans. The actual rules themselves. Do you understand that? I have also never claimed a magic being exists. God is the co…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 11:03 PM
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You avoided nearly all of my questions and just restated your position on morality so I’ll ask again. How do you know what is a valid evolution of morality? “The self” is a physical thing. It’s related to the neurons and connectivity and activity in our brain. No, the self is not a physical thing. For example, the problem of identity over time. How do you physically prove that the ‘you’ that existed 10 years ago is the same ‘you’ that exists now? You can’t. You also avoided my question: do you b…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 09:03 PM
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Because we understand through science that our brains evolved the concept of morality for the cohesion of our primate ancestors’s tribes/social groups. Would it be immoral for me and a few others to decide that we don’t care about social cohesion, and create a new moral system where it’s ok for us to steal from you? How do you know what is a legitimate evolution of morality and what is not? Most of the time, “metaphysics” is just semantic garbage. The “philosophy” of the self is just neuroscienc…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 08:41 PM
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I mean a set of beliefs based on superstition/faith and often contradictory to empirical evidence about how the universe works So...any moral belief, any value judgment, etc. The rejection of a religion doesn’t just end at rejection of religion. Everyone fills that void with something. Rejection of religion would be complete absence of moral beliefs, metaphysical beliefs, philosophy of the ‘self’, etc, none of these things can be proven thru empirical evidence and must rely on faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 08:17 PM
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Extremely biased comment. Every person on earth has a ‘religion’ (a moral code they follow, worldview that determines how they interact with the world, assumptions about the world) that can’t be proven to be correct thru any physical observation or testing. ‘Religion bad’ is basically a religion in itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 08:04 PM
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Once again, what is in question is not our descriptions of nature, and of laws. What is in question is the laws themselves. Separate and prior to our descriptions of them. but morality and logic are human creations, This is a self defeating statement. If logic is a human creation, subject to change and individual preferences, knowledge itself is impossible.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 07:48 PM
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When you place women in a position, where every decision to have sex with a non-committed partner, perhaps even non-married one, is a possible life altering decision, then you can't really blame them for their reluctance. Part of the problem is that women (and men) haven’t been reluctant enough. I agree though, men who want a wife who hasn’t slept around need to hold themselves to the same standard. And men should be help responsible for abortions too, if he had any say in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 07:46 PM
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This entire time you’ve been arguing that laws of nature, laws of logic and morals, etc, are made up by humans. Now you’re going back on it. I’ve made my argument multiple times.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 02:22 AM
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That doesn't mean that our expression about those observations somehow existed before we did. I’m not talking about our expressions of the conditions. I’m talking about the conditions themselves. My argument this entire time is that the conditions themselves can not be made up by humans.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 01:17 AM
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The laws existed prior to us calling them laws, otherwise we wouldn’t have been able to observe them. Laws are not made up by humans. Did water boil at 100 degrees before humans observed it? If so, humans did not make up that law.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 05:22 PM
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Humans didn’t make up those laws if they were describing bing our observations. Maybe we made up the word ‘law’ itself, but if we observed the laws then those laws existed prior to us seeing them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 12:47 AM
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That doesn't make any sense. How do you figure that the statement was there before humans made it up? Because my argument is that humans did not make it up. And anyone can challenge the laws. We have had all kinds of goofy claims about nature over the years. So there were incorrect claims made? That has nothing to do with this.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 07:47 PM
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No, that's just a description of our observation that has held up. Nothing about it suggests that it existed before humans came up with the description. No, that is a statement that must be true in order for us to have certain knowledge about anything at all. Anytime you make an argument, your argument relies on the laws of logic being true.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 07:04 PM
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I'm still waiting on one reason why these ideas have to be "unchanging". ‘One statement and it’s opposite statement can never both be true at the exact same time.’...can you see how, if that statement itself were not unchanging, knowledge itself would be impossible? Do you have extraordinary evidence of how laws of nature came to be? Of how the first living organism came into existence? Of how the universe went from a state of nonexistence to a state of existence? Or is it all ‘magic’?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 06:31 PM
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I’ve given the argument multiple times. You can keep denying it, but it’s very simple. The only way to give an account for objective morals, laws of logic, and laws of nature, is a Creator. You can keep saying these things are subjective, but you assume them to be objective any time you make an argument about anything at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 06:24 PM
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Not in your culture. Ok. So morals are meaningless in your belief system then, because anyone can make up a new system anytime they want, and nobody else can say that it’s wrong. I’m saying that Aristotle is a good place to read about the laws of logic. Not God. My argument is very simple. In order for knowledge to be possible at all, laws of logic, laws nature, etc, can not be subjective human constructs. They must be unchanging. The only coherent explanation for unchanging abstract laws that i…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 06:14 PM
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You’re still missing the point. You implicitly assume the laws of logic to be completely, objectively true anytime you make an argument about anything, whether you realize it or not. And you may say morals are subjective, but if they are, they are ultimately meaningless. You assume objective morality without realizing it all the time. The argument is that these things fall apart if they are simply made up by humans. The only coherent explanation for objective laws of logic, laws of nature, order…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 06:04 PM
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What tangible harm does it cause? More whores, more men chasing them. driving sex work underground that results in it being harder to stop sex trafficking and actual forced prostitution, That stuff (sex trafficking and forced prostitution) is already underground. society getting the idea that its ok to police morality based on religious morality? We already police based on morality, and always will.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 05:37 PM
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Moralizing is banning stuff that doesn't actually harm society out of a subjective sense of morality. Well that depends on your interpretation of ‘harm’ doesn’t it? Because I think it harms society when women see whoring themselves out as a legitimate career path.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 05:30 PM
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No one is claiming that humans can change everything that we observe, and the process of science revolves around constantly challenging and updating our understanding and description of the "rules" as we observe them. Do you ‘observe’ morals? And morals have nothing to do with science. There’s no scientific study you can do to show if an action is morally right or wrong. All moral systems are made up. Ok, so then answer my question. Would it be wrong if I made up a new moral system where it’s ok…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 05:27 PM
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I don’t think you understood the argument. These are all things that humans came up with to describe their observations and reasoning. No magic beings required. Ok so you have restated my argument. Correct, if there is no God, these things are all made up by humans. My argument is that there are a few problems with that. 1) if these things are made up by humans, why can we not change them or make up new rules? We are also humans after all. Me and my friends just decided to make up a moral system…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 05:15 PM
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Your idea that ‘choice’ should be placed above all else, is ‘moralizing rhetoric’ in itself. As for the ‘waste of police’ resources (if that’s what you’re truly worried about, we have police working on completely useless things right now. They resources could easily be reallocated.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 05:10 PM
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Of course there are good reasons. One easy example - Laws of nature, laws of logic, laws of physics, morals, human rights...these are all things that are abstract but unchanging (and any argument that you make about anything often relies on the existence of these things). Without a Creator these are nothing more than social constructs.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 04:25 PM
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Wow. Didn’t realize I was dealing with an intellectual giant here. Not imaginary at all. And yes, standards can come from God. Problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 04:18 PM
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Christian, yes. ‘Sex- negative’, not necessarily. But I think it’s reasonable to hold society to certain standards of decency.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 04:05 PM
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It degrades women, men, and the general decency of society.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 03:30 PM
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Don’t care, should be illegal regardless.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 03:23 PM
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The point is, if you love them and they love you, you’ll each be willing to compromise a bit to please your spouse. So yeah, you’ll be compatible
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 04:00 AM
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‘Sexual compatibility’ is a myth most of the time. Sex is not that hard. If you love someone and they love you, you are sexually compatible.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 03:56 AM
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80? Might as well set your limit at 400
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 10:02 PM
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Most of the time you can tell without asking
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 09:59 PM
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I don’t really see how it wouldn’t
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 09:57 PM
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I would’ve, but I avoided getting into dating with those types of women in the first place. Contrary to what people here will say, you can usually tell without asking if a woman has slept around.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 09:56 PM
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The content of her character, Doesn’t this include her past actions and attitudes about sleeping around?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 09:52 PM
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I think that gay male culture prove men would have lots of sex Nah I think it proves that homosexuality is ultimately not about love but about perversion and hedonism.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 05:36 PM
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They do not have to be heterosexual. They do not have to love their country, or work for their family, or get married to be part of the community because the community is not as relevant anymore to survive. Men and families are not shamed anymore for having no descendance. Sure, men have been freed from what society expected from them, with the cost they lost some purpose, but they also have more distraction from that sad reality than ever: Porn, videogames, films, streaming, etc. so they do not…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 05:07 PM
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How is it extreme?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 05:43 PM
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It’s not about the money. If a woman tried onlyfans and only made $1000, and another tried and made millions, it doesn’t matter, they’re both sluts. Simping in general degrades men and leads women to degrade themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 03:54 PM
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Repent.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 03:24 AM
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Most men want a woman who has some experience and talent This is such a myth. Sex is easy to learn, there is no hidden skill that you’re going to learn by sleeping around, and 99% of guys outside of Reddit don’t want a girl with ‘experience’
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 05:26 PM
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The side that makes society healthier. But why does society need to be ‘healthy’ and why do we need to go by whatever standard of ‘health’ you’re using, as opposed to others? Part of what makes a society successful is how well the moral system of that society matches up with the biological nature of its people. Take the hedonism example; everybody ends up with burned out dopamine receptors and miserable. Productivity plummets. And a less hedonic society surpasses them. The moral system that allo…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 03:43 PM
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Because society is worse for everyone if we don't play along. Sure, hedonism is fun and feels good, but if too many people get too into it, shit stops getting done. People are less productive, everyone gets poorer. These are subjective value judgements. Liberals disagree, others don’t care, and in a universe with no purpose, no objective morality, who is to say which side is correct? Liberals love evolution and hate intelligent design, right? They believe life began as simple unicellular microbe…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 02:46 PM
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I feel ideologically homeless basically. I’ve heard this from friends in a similar position too, politically more conservative but not religious. Not trying to come at your beliefs too hard, but I really don’t see how it makes sense to be conservative (or even just not liberal) and NOT be religious. For example if we exist for no reason, and the universe exists for no reason, why is it bad for kids to become transgender? Why is hedonism bad? Etc. It seems like the only consistent paths are relig…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 05:24 AM
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Sure but it’s even more than that. Nearly every major nation, civilization, conflict, movement throughout history has been led by men That’s not a bad thing either. Women are helpers and there’s nothing wrong with it. They’re actually very good at it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 10:21 PM
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Which is why we are taking generally. There will always be individual exceptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 10:11 PM
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100%. Don’t apologize for your standards, and slut shame men AND women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 09:53 PM
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You do realise that bisexuality exists and men can be that, right? Nah. ‘Bisexual’ men are just gay, and ‘bisexual’ women are either straight women looking for attention, or acting out because of some deeper problem (parental issues for example).
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 09:50 PM
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you literally didn't say generally. Go about 5 comments back, that’s exactly what I said. if you look at human history, generally men withhold resources in order to put themselves in positions of power, yes. So...generally men are leading and women are not?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 09:47 PM
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Yes, you can find some, which is why I said ‘generally.’ If you look at all of human history, generally men are leaders and women are not. Anyone who says otherwise is being willfully ignorant.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 09:38 PM
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By all of human history.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 09:35 PM
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Generally no, they’re not
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 09:32 PM
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Nah, it’s because deep down most women realize that getting into a relationship with a bisexual man is a lost cause because it will inevitably end when he realizes he’s actually just gay.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 09:29 PM
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Never said women couldn’t do these things. But these are things that usually come from someone in a position of power or leadership and men are leaders, women aren’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 09:23 PM
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Do you see the ‘Christian right’ excluding Catholics from anything?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 09:20 PM
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Being feminine is what’s bad if you’re a guy. Being sensitive is not inherently bad, but there’s a time and place for it, and it should be expressed in certain ways and not others. What is bad is for a man to express his sensitivity in the exact same way that we’d expect a woman would express her sensitivity. Women do it in a more emotional way, which again is not inherently bad, but different. For a man, a good way to be sensitive is to show compassion for others, help your friends when they ne…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 09:15 PM
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Yes. In fact American conservatives actually try way too hard to be inclusive. They’re constantly trying to appease people who will hate them regardless
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 08:59 PM
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men think being feminine is the worst thing a man can be. Yeah but we think being feminine is a good thing for women to be
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 08:54 PM
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The logic is that men have to put in actual work and self improvement in order to get a woman, whereas women pretty much just have to not be obese and not be a slut. Not saying I agree with it (I think all casual sex is bad and slut shame men more than women) but it does make some sense why there’s a double standard
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 06:30 PM
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The problem arises if some of those men whom she slept were guys who only saw her as a hole to use for one night If she had casual sex at all, this is how they saw her
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 06:00 PM
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I’m not Catholic myself but it’s not a bad option. Generally I’d go for the more traditional churches (ones that are opposed to female pastors, opposed to gay marriage, etc). These tend to weed out the women who are only there for appearances
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 03:07 AM
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Sure but I also have to make time for my own relatives, my friends, the time I spend working, plus any alone time. Not the worst problem to have I suppose. Kind of wish the social expectations for family visits when married were a little different in general. Stop in, talk for an hour, leave until next time. None of this ‘stay from breakfast until after dinner’ nonsense
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 02:46 AM
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Some, yes The key is to find a church where the services aren’t soft rock concerts. The ‘born again’ types don’t usually go to the more traditional churches
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 02:36 AM
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Church
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 02:21 AM
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Anyone else kind of hate having to go their spouse’s family events? It’s not that I dislike my wife’s relatives (I like them fine)...but I don’t want to spend an entire day visiting, 2 hours is enough. And I don’t really want to spend every holiday at someone else’s house, and I don’t really want to spend an entire weekend at some relative’s wedding. But I do my best to deal with it to make her happy. Do others feel this way or am I just being unreasonable?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 02:20 AM
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Nah if a white person has kids with a black person, the kids look way more similar to the black side than to the white side, and often won’t exhibit many of the traits of the white parent (eye color of it’s not brown, hair color of it’s not black, hair texture, etc). There are some exceptions but they’re not the norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 10:18 PM
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You can ignore it if you like but 99% of people outside of Reddit will tell you this is the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 09:08 PM
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And I’ll bet money you want to make sure she never has that chance. Breaking news: man hopes him and his wife never sleep with other people
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 09:07 PM
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Intuitive knowledge of how people behave. Lifestyle changes are difficult.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 09:06 PM
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And where did I claim they don’t? But yes, if you’re used to sleeping with multiple people whenever you want, it’s more difficult to settle down with 1 for the rest of your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 09:02 PM
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You act like having sex is some enlightening thing and that women can’t learn about the world in any other way. My wife was a virgin when we married but she still knows how to stand up for herself because she has a good father. Sounds like you ‘don’t see women as people’ ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 08:58 PM
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‘Sure she’s slept with 30 guys and none of those relationships worked out...but I’m number 31 and I’m gonna be the one!’
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 08:28 PM
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‘Experience’ is such a myth. Sex is not hard to learn. Especially for women. There’s no hidden skill you’re going to develop by sleeping with 10 different guys as opposed to sleeping with your spouse like 4-5 times.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 08:23 PM
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Yes. If he doesn’t want to date women who have been with black men, why should he date those women? It’s a personal preference, whether you like it or not. Maybe he wants kids who look like him, and wants to date a women who wants kids who look like her. Insecurity has nothing to do with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 08:21 PM
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Having standards and sticking to them, even when women (and men trying to get attention from women) try to shame you for having them, is actually the least insecure thing you can do. And correct, men don’t need to justify their aversions to traits they don’t like
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 06:38 PM
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A group of normal men usually have zero trouble communicating and almost zero drama (when it's just guys) Yeah this is a great point, especially if you’ve ever been in something like an organized football team or group manual labor like construction or landscaping. The jobs ccan even be made fun. It’s amazing how much work a group of guys can accomplish if they’re just left alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 09:53 PM
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Yeah I agree with this. Most of us spend all day ‘pretending to care’ at work, and don’t have any desire to continue doing that at home. Another part of it is that it seems like women like to talk just to talk, way more than men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 09:23 PM
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Do you need a source to tell you that women date guys they find handsome, or do you just know it’s true intuitively? Every single worldview is ultimately built on assumptions that can’t be proven. For example can you physically prove that we have rights? That right and wrong exist? You can’t even physically prove that we need a sources for things. No, you haven’t responded
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 04:48 AM
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You ignored every single point and question I brought up Stereotypes exist for a reason. You can’t just dismiss them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 04:08 AM
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First of all, yes, some things are allowed to be intuitive. You can make inferences about people based on how they present themselves. Most of these things are also backed up by experience. Do you need a source to tell you that women date guys they find handsome, or do you just know it’s true intuitively? If you're putting belief or faith into something you can't prove, that’s just religion, not reality. We all do this, it’s impossible not to. Every single worldview is ultimately built on assump…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 03:58 AM
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We don’t need a source for everything. Some things are intuitive. If a woman is more liberal and outgoing with what she does with her body (tattoos, piercings, drinking, drugs) it’s reasonable to assume that she also has a more liberal attitude towards sex. Ask any guy outside of Reddit what he thinks when he sees a girl with 10+ tattoos who regularly goes out and gets drunk on the weekends. This is obvious stuff
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 03:40 AM
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Women: ‘ men need to start treating women as people and see them as more than just sex objects’ Man: says something women don’t like Women: ‘men are dumb because vagina/clitoris/sex’
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 03:12 AM
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no one over 25 (unless they’re challenged in some way) cares or asks The ‘unless they’re challenged in some way’ sounds very ableist of you. Not a good look ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 02:42 AM
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This is a pathetic attempt at shaming people for having standards. Lots of people care (women too) and there’s nothing wrong with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 02:36 AM
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I’ll bite. Plenty of signs that a girl has slept around or is promiscuous.. Excessive tattoos and piercings, excessive drinking or drug use, lewd posts on social media, etc. Obviously these things don’t correlate 100%, but theyre a very good indicator. This stuff is obvious to every guy outside of Reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 02:34 AM
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It really was a perfect setup
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 11:45 PM
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why would you bother doing this?! Because I believe sleeping around and having casual sex is bad, and 2) it’s fun because it elicits reactions like this: Leave people have whatever sex they want AS LONG AS IT IS WITHIN CONSENSUAL ADULTS!!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 11:39 PM
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Yeah, guess we (women) need to all go back to no pre-marital sex On no...please...we wouldn’t want you do to that, ladies...
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 11:22 PM
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where does this male hivemind draw the line between "normal" and "high"? If unmarried, anything over 0. (1 could be on in certain cases) If married, anything over 1. (2 could be ok in certain cases)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 11:12 PM
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To troll To slut shame men and women who sleep around and have casual sex To debate people (it’s fun and easy because I have a lot of opinions that aren’t reddit friendly)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 11:02 PM
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I don't care, I won't knock women for making fairly easy $$$ available to them This is also a simp attitude though (although not quite as bad)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 10:47 PM
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You can, but if you’re going out of your way to spend time with them alone, away from the person you’re in a relationship with, it’s a little suspicious. We all know why men and women go out of their way to spend time together. They’re attracted to each other. Nothing wrong with it, that’s the way it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 10:46 PM
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Yeah, it's called actually liking a person. Yes and when a guy actually likes a girl and she actually likes him, usually it leads to one or both of them having romantic feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 10:44 PM
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Well, yes. Usually one person in the ‘friendship’ wants to be more than just friends
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 10:38 PM
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Yes, let me pull up the peer review study that shows why women like me. We do not need a ‘source’ for everything. Some things are allowed to be intuitive. Girls don’t pursue guys they aren’t attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 08:51 PM
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You’re not talking to someone who believes in ‘red pill’. I probably think red pill is dumber than you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 08:49 PM
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I do, and she trusts me. We trust each other not to even put ourselves in those types of situations. We are also realistic about people’s motivations for hanging out with us. The reality is, if a woman wants to hang out with me, it’s because she’s attracted to me in some way. Especially if she wants to hang out with me alone. That’s how men and women work.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 07:13 PM
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In real life, men hang out with women they’re attracted to and women hang out with men they’re attracted to. People can deny it all they want, but everyone knows it would be a red flag if a man said to his girlfriend, ‘hey I’m going over to Sally’s house tonight to hang out (alone). See you later!’
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 06:39 PM
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What if you made the friend long before the girlfriend came along? Then at some point the relationship with the friend would’ve progressed to the point where one or both of you develop romantic feelings and you have to decide whether you’re ‘only friends’ or more than that. (Or neither of you say anything and just keep pretending). And even if you decide you’re ‘only friends’, the feelings don’t go away as long as you continue seeing each other. That’s how male/female friendships work
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 06:24 PM
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The woman being suspicious is not a red flag at all. I’d be suspicious if my gf was hanging out alone with a single guy, and she would feel the same if I were hanging out alone with a single woman. There’s no reason for someone in a relationship to spend alone time with a single person of the opposite sex. That’s exactly what your bf/gf is for.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 06:04 PM
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Having platonic female friends is probably helpful for dating if they’re the kind of friends that are ‘group’ friends. Like maybe your guy friend’s girlfriend who hangs out with your group. It can get you used to talking to women but without any temptation or emotions involved. It’s not good if they’re the type of friend you go out of your way to hang out with one on one like you would with your best friends. If you’re a single man hanging out alone with a single women, you’re pretty much just p…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 05:52 PM
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Do you know a lot of single men who go out of their way to spend one on one time with single women that they’re not attracted to? Men pursue women for romance. Nothing wrong with it, just the way it is
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 05:48 PM
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Ok Ur mum queer
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 08:45 PM
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U mad? 😎
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 08:29 PM
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Ur mum gay
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 08:21 PM
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This is why you have to have high standards. Can be tough but you deserve the best woman you can find. Just don’t let it fool you into being too picky and looking for a ‘perfect’ woman. Best place to look is church (yes I know not every church girl will actually be traditional). But it’s by far the best community to be a part of for the chance to meet a traditional woman and a good environment to raise your kids in.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 02:08 AM
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What ideology is currently believed and preached by: mass media, Hollywood, academia, big tech, and most major corporations?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 04:04 AM
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You included atheism in there so I appreciate you putting that as I believe everyone has a religion. But yes, one must be correct. The idea that all world views are false, is a worldview itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 02:45 AM
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Of course there’s a correct religion or belief system. The statement ‘there is no correct religion’ is a worldview in itself. freedom from religion Doesn’t exist. Everyone in the world has dogmatic beliefs that they can’t prove, that influence the way they interact with the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 02:25 AM
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The president or some random CIO is irrelevant. That doesn’t give me, a random man, any more power or privilege than you, a random woman. Social and cultural pressures are way more important than the gender of an individual holding a particular office.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 02:24 AM
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And most of the women (correctly) believed in that religion. Today lots of women have a different religion. Its impossible not to have a religion
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 02:22 AM
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A very small minority of women did that. The majority supported the way things were
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 02:16 AM
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What does that have to do with them liking being mothers and raising families? Also: most women didn’t want to own property or vote, and didn’t care about having credit. I’ve known multiple very old women (great grandmother age) who’ve said that it was a mistake when women joined the workforce.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 02:12 AM
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So men were born with power to begin with? Why? Because they’re inherently more powerful? Sounds kinda sexist. At some point, the power had to have come from someone who DIDNT originally have it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 02:11 AM
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But they’re half of the population. Don’t you think they could’ve granted themselves ‘power’ in some way, like men? Why would they allow themselves to be relegated? Or (what really happened) maybe they LIKED being mothers and taking care of their familes
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 02:04 AM
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Ok so if men could grant themselves power, why couldn’t women? Maybe the way things were was just natural after all.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 01:56 AM
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Ok so why didn’t women grant themselves power, if men could grant themselves power so easily?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 01:50 AM
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The idea that modern feminism is rebellious is a complete joke. Every major corporation, most of the media, most of the government, Hollywood, academia all push feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 01:48 AM
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historically granted power. Granted by who?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 01:40 AM
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Colleges are overwhelmingly left, and women generally are not very rebellious, and go with whatever the perceived authority says. Men are much more rebellious and contrarian
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 01:34 AM
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Maybe denying sex so people pretend to worship a made up god is also not good or right If there is no God, there is no good or right.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 01:59 AM
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Redpill stuff is pretty correct about women but is just as blinded by a need for casual sex as they say modern women are. They’re just sluts who happen to be men, and I am very much in favor of slut shaming men AND women
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 01:54 AM
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This screams "I've never slept with a lot of people" Correct. Only my wife As someone how has, sex is incredibly hard for some men. Some guys legit don't know how to pleasure a woman and don't take direction well because of their egos. Finding someone you're truly in sync with is awesome and a pure stroke of luck. So back to my original point, you’re sleeping with guys who don’t love you. Don’t do that
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 04:35 PM
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Sexual compatibility is (most of the time) a myth that people use to justify having slept around. People’s sexual preferences are not THAT unique
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 02:31 AM
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Very true for women as well. Sex is not rocket science, and most women like the same things.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 02:28 AM
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Yeah but I think the assumption is that if you both truly love each other romantically, you’ve gotten past all your personal differences and love each other in the same way. If you love each other before you have sex, sexual incompatibility isn’t really something you have to worry about (which is one of the reasons I believe in waiting)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 02:26 AM
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Sometimes it takes a few persons before you find the one you’re compatible with. If you truly love someone and they truly love you in a romantic way, congratulations you are sexually compatible, outside of a few types of very uncommon outlier cases. Sex is not hard to figure out, and most people don’t have sexual likes and dislikes that are all that unique.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 02:12 AM
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100% truth. Have sex with your husband or wife like 3-4 times and you’ve pretty much got it figured out. Anything you haven’t figured out by that point, can be learned in 30 seconds or less.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 02:07 AM
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Because 1: it’s true. Deep down, if given the choice between two women who are identical in every way except one is a virgin and one is not, most men would choose the virgin. 2: men need to stop letting themselves be shamed for having standards and 3: I like to troll and argue with people online.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 10:23 PM
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She’s not gonna see this bro. I’m married with children. What more experience do I need? Sex is easy to learn.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 10:19 PM
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100% truth. Have sex like 3-4 times (with the same person even) and you’ve pretty much got it figured out. Anything you haven’t figured out by that point, can be learned in 30 seconds or less.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 10:18 PM
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Figure out what their relationship with their father is like. If they have a good relationship with their father it usually eliminates like 90% of the things you mentioned that you don’t want in a woman
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 10:12 PM
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Also I doubt that majority of men today want virgins, Nah most men do. Some of them just won’t admit it and use ‘I need a girl with more experience’ as a way to rationalize settling for women who sleep around. Sex isn’t that hard to figure out. ‘Experience’=better sex is a myth.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 10:06 PM
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Kids need a mom and a dad. Your sons need a good example of the type of woman they should want later in life, and your daughters need to see 1) what a good woman is, and 2) a man they look up to, aka you, being faithful to that woman. Especially the promiscuous, polyamorous ones that don’t want children, that I see on dating sites. If this is they type of woman you go for after having kids and not being with their mother, this is likely what your daughters will turn into.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 04:31 PM
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The average woman is 5'4 and 170lbs This is absolutely insane to me. My family is full of tall women (around 6’) and I would be surprised if any of them are above 150lbs. And none of them look too skinny, just normal. People need to eat less
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 03:09 PM
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Go to church and do your best to find a girl who’s strongly religious and whose family likely raised her with a set of values that will lead her to be faithful. Yes I know not EVERY church girl is actually traditional, yes I know ‘religion bad’ since this is Reddit, yes I know non-religious people are capable of being faithful too. But girls who have been raised in a traditional religious environment are generally a better option if you want to ease your mind about this stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 02:15 PM
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Your replies are making less and less sense. What are you even trying to talk about?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 05:26 PM
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I never claimed to ‘win’...but since you brought it up ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 05:17 PM
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I think I struck a nerve there. Sorry man. Just don’t simp, raise your standards and you’ll be good 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 04:29 PM
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Women aren’t gonna see this bro, no need to embarrass yourself like this. I'd rather be with somebody who had options and chose me You know that non-whores have options too right?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 04:24 PM
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Most peoples body counts aren't related to their LTRs. Yeah and like I said, that’s bad too. But if you’re ok with your wife or gf having slept with ~7 other guys, go for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 04:19 PM
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None of what you said is relevant to the point I was making. If you have 7 failed legitimate long term relationships, that’s a bad sign. I believe in waiting for marriage, so ideally the number of sexual partners before marriage would be 0. I can understand having 1-2 in certain cases. Why would you wait to make major commitments to have sex? Because I treat sex itself as a major commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 04:15 PM
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I’m in my early 30s, married with children. If you’ve been in 7 separate LTRs - I’m talking the type where the relationship has progressed to point that you’ve met each other’s families, moved in together, become a unit, and ALL 7 fail, that’s probably a red flag that you either have very bad standards, or are difficult to be with.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 04:09 PM
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Women having lots of causal sex isn’t a ‘need’. It’s either 1) acting out in order to get male attention driven by subconscious issues coming from a distant or absent father (the ‘girls with daddy issues are promiscuous’ stereotype exists for a reason)...or 2) a misguided attempt to get male attention because modern society is extremely sexualized and fools women into thinking that the only value they can provide is sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 04:05 PM
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Having 7 partners IS slutty though. If you hook up with not 1, not 2, but 7 different people, that’s a lot. Not sure where people get the idea that 7 isn’t a lot. Either that, or you’ve had 7 failed long term relationships. Which is also not a good sign.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 03:59 PM
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Nah OP is right. Liberal women even implicitly admit this when they say things like ‘if abortion is banned I’ll be way more selective with who I sleep with’...’why would I hookup with this guy and risk having to have his baby’...and the whole sex strike thing. Stuff like that was said all over social media, and even in this sub, right after the roe v wade news came out.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 03:55 PM
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Grandma-age women generally seem a lot smarter, happier, and more mentally healthy than today’s ‘liberated’ women
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 06:27 PM
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You have to start small. Try and develop some type of skill that can either be used to help people, or create something. It doesn’t have to difficult - could be something as simple as learning to change oil on a car. Anything that you can feel proud of or that could be helpful to someone else. From there, you can start to go bigger. Ease yourself into the feeling of first being responsible for yourself, and then for others as you develop skills that will lead others to depend on you for certain …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 08:05 PM
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Why is it such a big deal that I am sleeping with other women via protected sex, if she isn't giving me sex Because this is not a good attitude to have if you’re looking for a serious, faithful relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 12:38 AM
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I believe in waiting, 1) for religious reasons and 2) because I believe it’s better for your mental health and for the health of the relationship itself. But even if she wants to wait for some other reason, I can understand where she’s coming from. Does she know about the other girls? Would you want to sleep with a girl who is currently sleeping with two other men and won’t commit to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 11:59 PM
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I am a man with a woman who wants to wait until a relationship to have sex. She is right and you should listen to her As for me I am talking and having sex with two other girls On second tonight, end things with her. Let her find a traditional man who deserves a traditional woman
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 11:32 PM
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I’ve done hard drugs maybe 6 times in my life Is this supposed to be arguing AGAINST my assumptions? by your standards I should be as pure as the driven snow. No, see above Also, I don’t think people on here understand what it means to speak generally. Yes, we all know exceptions to all sorts of stereotypes. Nobody is saying that women can ONLY be promiscuous if they have lots of tattoos, drink a lot, whatever...or vice versa. It’s a generalization
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 10:19 PM
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None of that shows how anything I said was innacurate
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 10:12 PM
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Ask any guy outside of Reddit what he thinks when he sees a girl with 10+ tattoos, a belly button/nipple piercing, or who is constantly out partying. I guarantee he sees her as an easy one night stand
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 10:04 PM
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Then it should be easy to show me HOW it’s inaccurate right? I think you’re being willfully ignorant
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 09:54 PM
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You can make inferences about people based on their actions and how they present themselves. It’s a reasonable assumption to conclude that a woman who has no inhibitions about putting tattoos all over her body, or drinking excessively, might also not have many inhibitions when it comes to sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 09:32 PM
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Excessive tattoos and piercings, lots of partying/drinking/drugs, hair dyed an unnatural color when they’re in their 20s. There’s tons of signs. And that just goes for the ones that don’t just flat out tell you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 09:18 PM
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Sure you might not truly know...but most of the time you can kinda tell.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 07:50 PM
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A male/male friendship is different. We have common interests and do similar things. It would be very odd if I said to my wife in the morning, ‘see you later, I’m going out fishing with Ashley tonight!’
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 01:16 AM
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I don’t think it makes the friendship less legitimate, it’s really just the norm for either the man or the woman, or both, to want more. People don’t like to admit it but the guy almost has some romantic interest. It’s hard to imagine the thought process that leads you as a guy to think ‘I get along with this girl and she’s good/fun/likeable enough for me to want to spend time with her and be friends with...but I have no romantic interest in her’’...UNLESS the you’re already in a serious relatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 07:33 PM
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Yeah I think that’s why red pill is totally wrong about women’s nature. The nature of most women is to be a follower and helper, preferably to a genuinely good man. Modern women have lots of problems, but part of that blame lies on men for not leading them right, and giving them attention for the wrong things
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 09:42 PM
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Yeah, it’s natural for a straight person to want a straight partner
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 08:29 PM
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I’d say it’s pretty natural for a person who’s looking for a heterosexual monogamous relationship to consider bisexuality a red flag
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 08:23 PM
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It doesn’t even mention natural looks or fitness. It’s not that picky. It simply describes a normal girl without tattoos that isn’t crazy
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 08:14 PM
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Yeah my wife passed this filter too. Guys reading this need to not get discouraged by people in the thread saying the list describes 99% of women or is too picky. There are plenty of plain, normal girls out there who don’t check any of these boxes. It’s not even that picky, it doesn’t even mention natural looks, fitness, or religion
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 08:03 PM
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I never mentioned the Big Bang or evolution. I said metaphysical beliefs. You have your own ideas as to what is right and wrong, what humans should or should not do, what constitutes truth, etc. None of those beliefs can be proven thru physical means or thru the scientific method.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 11:32 PM
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You have metaphysical beliefs that can’t be physically proven to be true, everyone does. That’s what I mean when I say that you have a religion too. Nobody is completely objective.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 09:42 PM
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gives people negative views of homosexuality, sexual freedom and anything considered deviant to the church Yes, every worldview attempts to give its adherents a negative view of the things that the worldview considers deviant. Including yours. shapes the way history is taught and learned. Yes, once again, this is what all belief systems do. and in many ways leads to stupid people who are more likely to think backwards than forwards You are assuming that your vague term of ‘forward’ is inherently…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 06:44 PM
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Church specifically instills values that create good families. Discouraging promiscuity and divorce, encouraging two parent homes, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 06:19 PM
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who grew up with both parents Maybe that has something to do with the fact that their parents go to church
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 06:05 PM
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The existence of any immaterial, unchanging universal law or concept. Laws of Logic for example. These could not exist without a sentient Creator.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 05:13 PM
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Yes, it is
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 03:09 PM
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This is the best advice here, if you’re not already going to church. Also more likely to meet the kind of girls that are worth pursuing. The religion itself is true but some churches are not that great. It can be hard to find a good one, especially in America, but once you do it’s a great place to start
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 01:50 PM
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Yeah these people act like learning what you like in bed is a multi year, multi partner process. Just sleep with your husband like 3 times. Thats all it takes
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 02:57 AM
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How can you have the best sex with someone who has no sexual experience just blows my mind. This kind of thinking is what people use to justify their high counts in the first place. Sex isn’t that complicated, there aren’t some hidden skills you’re gonna learn by sleeping with 10 different people that you can’t just learn by sleeping with just your wife a handful of times. That being said I think those women say their current bfs are the best so that their bfs will settle for women with high cou…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 02:52 AM
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Not healthy. Also a dominant female, submissive male relationship is not likely to work out...as much as women would appreciate you supporting them and hyping them up, the vast majority of them do not want to be the dominant one all the time in a relationship. The ones that do aren’t the kind of girls you want to be with...they’ll see you as weak, and someone they can boss around and take advantage of. I would give it a shot with a normal feminine girl if you can. I get the insecurities about he…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 03:41 AM
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Neither can we. It’s about time :)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 09:44 PM
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if we ban this thing that you don’t like, you also have to let us ban this other thing that you don’t like This just keeps getting better
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 03:43 PM
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The vast majority of men couldn’t care less about their job. If tomorrow my job was now ‘sit in the driveway and count the number of ants you see, but your hours and pay are the same’ I would not care. Most jobs are so meaningless that it’s hard to feel and sense of pride or accomplishment. Most men also don’t really admire high corporate positions as prestigious or ‘flex worthy’
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 11:51 PM
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I’m not equating them. They’re not identical, although they do both result in death. One is the choice of the person, the other is not. But you seem to justify many cases of abortion because ‘life is hard and some people wish they hadn’t been born.’ So, it’s a simple question, why not use that same justification for suicide?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 05:57 PM
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And no I wouldn’t advocate for them to kill themselves Then why would you advocate for them to be aborted? Not very consistent. I would argue against both.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 05:52 PM
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That was my whole point babe. I think all of that is immoral, while other people are screaming that not doing those things in these situation is immoral. It’s grey, it’s subjective, it’s complex My original comment was that there needs to be a universal set of standards that everyone plays by, or there can be no standard at all. Which you called a ‘false dichotomy’ and now apparently are agreeing with after all. That’s awesome that their life turned around. There are also people who wish they ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 05:45 PM
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Morality is subjective. If that is true, then there is no reason that anyone needs to follow or respect any of this (below) if they personally disagree with it. That’s my entire point. I would argue it’s immoral to bring a child into the world that’s unloved and unwanted, that’s set up from day 1 to have a traumatic, difficult life. I would say it’s immoral to bring a child into the world when the parents are addicted to drugs or alcohol. It’s immoral to bring a child into the world only to face…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 05:32 PM
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But again, that’s all arbitrary. YOU think of it as ‘forcing someone to give birth against their will’ but I and others think of it as unnecessarily ending a life. Who’s to say which POV is more valid? If we don’t have a universal moral standard, there’s no way to determine which is the one that everyone SHOULD follow. It’s absolutely not a false dichotomy. We either have universal moral standards that everyone follows, or we don’t, in which case anyone can make up their own standards and anyone…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 05:03 PM
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But how do you determine which moral questions we need rules for, and which ones we don’t, and why? That would require some set of rules that everyone plays by. You either have complete moral universal standards, or none at all
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 04:38 PM
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So abortion ‘frees’ them to...spend decades making spreadsheets for corporations that don’t care about them. But yes, it was the family roles that were ‘keeping women down’
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 01:57 AM
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We never said practicing abstinence we said teaching abstinence There have been plenty of times on this very sub where I’ve suggested ‘just don’t have sex’ and the response is usually some snarky dismissal, as if it’s impossible. It’s like many people can’t understand a world where you actually commit to a partner before having unprotected sex with them when you’re fertile.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 01:54 AM
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Simply stating your opinion does not make it fact. Try again ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 01:50 AM
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The vast majority of abortions are not done for any of the reasons you mentioned. https://www.guttmacher.org/sites/default/files/pdfs/pubs/psrh/full/3711005.pdf
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 11:07 PM
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Pro choice women: ‘lol you really think that practicing abstinence is the best way to avoid unwanted pregnancy???’ Also pro choice women: ‘if abortion is banned we will go on a sex strike to avoid unwanted pregnancies’ Hmmm....
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 10:42 PM
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True woke conspiracy theorists know that low birth rates in western countries are by design
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 02:20 AM
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There will be no sex strike. They’re threatening to stop having sex with men that they’re already not having sex with
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 01:05 AM
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if I lived in a red state and was single Id absolutely would wait much longer to have sex to vet the man Anytime I'd consider sleeping with a poorer man...I'd be thinking "what happens if I get knocked up and he cannot help me much financially?" ...so you would start doing what women should have been doing all along?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 12:53 AM
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I was pro life long before I was anti-woman. I only became sexist after I had interactions with pro choice women ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 02:06 AM
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The most common reasons for abortion are actually ‘a baby would dramatically change my life’ aka career, education...or ‘elective’ aka simply because the parents feel like it. https://www.guttmacher.org/sites/default/files/pdfs/pubs/psrh/full/3711005.pdf https://ahca.myflorida.com/MCHQ/Central_Services/Training_Support/docs/TrimesterByReason_2018.pdf
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 02:00 AM
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Why would anyone go back to traditionalism when we have all the technology you could ever want to help you escape reality? ‘Why live life when you can consoom’
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 12:49 AM
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‘I’m going to be more responsible about who I have sex with! Take that, pro lifers!’ Haha, they are so close to understanding what we’ve been arguing for all along
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 12:47 AM
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But actually, yes
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 12:43 AM
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woman who does not currently have sex with most men threatens that if abortion is banned, she will continue to not have sex with most men
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 10:52 PM
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Bruh we just want women to not murder their unborn children when they don’t have to. That’s all. We have no problem with women getting medical care. The story you mentioned about the woman in Texas? Yeah I agree, that was bad. That’s why I don’t support the police, and am wary of doctors. The pro life women in my life have like minded medical professionals that they trust, that will help them if anything you mentioned happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 10:38 PM
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Don’t give us any ideas ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 10:24 PM
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By ‘medical care concerning reproductive health’ you mean abortion. No need for the euphemisms. All my female loved ones are pro life too :)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 10:23 PM
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Don’t know why vasectomies would be restricted. This whole line of reasoning would lead to pro choicers having to admit that abortion was being used as birth control all along, even though they always insist that it’s not.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 10:21 PM
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First of all, I’m not a woman Then I hope she sees this ;) Secondly-if you weren’t so concerned about women, you wouldn’t be obsessed with getting sex with them all the time ‘You have a relationship with a woman, therefore you’re obsessed with all of them and want to control them’
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 10:17 PM
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Pro life people do not actually like babies or children because if they did we would at least have universal Healthcare. Oh yeah me and my pro life friends will be sure to get right on that one. As if I have any influence whether we have universal healthcare. Guess what? Pro choicers do not actually like women because if you did, my wife would get [insert x thing I want from the government]. How about UBI for being a mother.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 10:15 PM
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Because it’s fun. But in all seriousness, we don’t want to control you nearly as much as you think we do. You’re not that special. Have sex as often as you want, at whatever time you want...as long as you don’t kill a baby.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 10:08 PM
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So again, couples who never want to have children should be abstinent? Yes. Unless they get themselves sterilized, vasectomy, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 10:04 PM
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The men you’re talking about ALREADY weren’t getting to sleep with the women I’m talking about. Unless you think these women were willing to sleep with guys who they believe are losers. In which case, who’s more irrational, the loser or the person who sleeps with him? The women I’m talking about have posted plenty of comments in this exact thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 10:02 PM
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The only time anyone should ever have sex is when it’s with a person they would be willing to have a child with, at a time when they would be willing and able to raise a child if a pregnancy should occur. Doesn’t mean you should only have sex when you intend to get pregnant, but it means that you shouldn’t have sex if you are completely, 100% opposed to pregnancy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 09:58 PM
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Ok but the argument from a lot of liberal women right now is ‘we’ll be way more responsible with who we sleep with! Take that, men!’ Which is exactly what we’ve advocated for them to do all along. The women you described who are in long term relationships with one man are correct to be with one man, but wrong to want abortions.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 09:52 PM
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It’s always funny to me when the roe v wade overturn is back in the news, how many women say things that boil down to ‘oh you want to ban abortion? Well guess what, we’ll just.....have less hookups with strangers and be more responsible about who we sleep with!’ Yes, that’s exactly what nearly every pro life person has always wanted you to do. It’s like that ‘when you use the wrong formula but get the correct answer’ meme.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 09:46 PM
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they were letting basically strangers nut in them Hmm so maybe they really were using abortion as birth control all along. Really makes you think ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 09:39 PM
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women will stop sleeping with strangers Oh no! That DEFINITELY isn’t exactly what pro life Christians want women to do...please don’t do this, ladies
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 09:38 PM
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Don’t pursue it. If she takes the initiative and makes it clear she’s going to cheat on him with you, tell the boyfriend and then don’t sleep with her. Sure she might cheat with someone else, but if it’s you, you’re enabling that type of behavior. You can’t control everything women do, but you can control what type of behavior you associate yourself with. If redpill was truly pro-masculinity, they’d understand that acting honorably is one of the most important parts of being a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 03:23 AM
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‘You’re supposed to lead by example but only examples that I already agree with and you also have to be completely quiet about it’ Very convenient. But then I got educated, and I was upset I lost so much of my life learning literal nonsense. And how do you know that what your new educators taught you isn’t nonsense? but calling everyone else Wrong and God as Right, is not leading by example and it’s inaccurate. God doesn’t offer one way to honor Him. In the Christian worldview, God absolutely is…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 11:45 PM
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Well, the person above said I was supposed to lead by example, and that’s what I’m doing. You can’t lead by example if you aren’t at least somewhat vocal about what exactly your example is, and why it should be followed. We’re all allowed to advocate for what we think is right, just like you’re doing right now. What is the purpose of pushing your beliefs on others who do not subscribe to your viewpoint and values? I’m hoping that they will eventually be convinced, and subscribe to my beliefs and…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 09:25 PM
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And all your points are 21st century secular humanist points and therefore subjected to your worldview. understand the heavy focus on monogamy and strange reasoning used to validate it Not sure what about my reasoning is strange. Monogamy generally creates strong and healthy families, with children who grow up to create monogamous families of their own, rather than pursuing sex with strangers. This is not only generally better for the health of society, but for the health of the individuals them…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 08:18 PM
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Youre talking about reckless casual sex. All causal sex is reckless. You’re engaging in an act that could create a child with at worst, a complete stranger, and at best, a person you don’t want kids with. You don't have to have family issues just to want to have sex with people lol. Well yeah, everyone wants to have sex to some extent. But family issues, especially in childhood, are often the root cause of someone acting out and using sex recklessly later in life. Honestly, you just sound Christ…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 08:03 PM
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I strongly disagree that most mature adults have casual sex. In fact, you could make a pretty strong argument that pursuing hookups and one night stands is the complete opposite of maturity. Pursuing instant gratification without regard to how it will affect your future (sleeping around does make a person less desirable - the people you want to be with long term aren’t going to settle for someone who’s slept around). People who have causal sex tend to be the type who have insecurities that are c…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 07:48 PM
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First of all, I don’t believe ANYONE should be having sex before marriage....but if a girlfriend slept with previous guys she didn’t see a future with but wouldn’t sleep with me as her own boyfriend, that would be an instant breakup
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 03:08 PM
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Yes, it’s bad for men and women. Just easier for a larger amount of women to do. The women worth being with long-term aren’t going to settle for men who’ve slept with tons of partners, and the men worth being with aren’t going to settle for women who’ve slept with tons of partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 03:04 PM
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Will a large segment of men be priced out of the dating market? I think it’ll actually be sort of the opposite. Something that gets overlooked is that although educated women earn more, they’re also likely to be in debt. Whether it actually plays out this way, a man has to see that debt as something he is now responsible for too. Most men see debt as a larger negative than they see education as a positive. Most men don’t really care how much a woman makes or how educated she is, outside of the o…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 01:47 AM
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We get it, men aren’t allowed to have standards that you don’t like. Seems insecure of you ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 08:29 PM
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Men are too psychologically fragile to handle perceived challenges to their ownership of women's bodie Or...some women can’t handle the fact that some men have standards that they don’t like
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 08:16 PM
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now she thinks that being religious and praying to God will fix her life It will
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 03:36 AM
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Same thing as ‘colonizer’....’Guess what? People who look like you once conquered people who look like me hundreds of years ago? Bet you feel like a real loser now huh??’
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 04:57 PM
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No problem I appreciate the questions and it’s nice to actually talk about this kind of stuff with how hostile it can usually get. Do you support more sex education in schools? Learning more about contraception and safe sex? This isn’t meant to be a dig, I’m genuinely curious about your opinion. I do, but I’m guessing we would differ on the exact type of education. I think we’d both probably agree that simply teaching abstinence doesn’t always work for whatever reason (although that’s what I bel…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 01:30 AM
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The truth is almost the exact opposite. Nearly every emotional appeal comes from pro choicers. ‘You only care about children before they’re born, not after, because you don’t do x, y, z or support [insert Democratic Party policy]’ ‘Oh you don’t support abortion? So you’d force a homeless woman with a disability to give birth to a rapist’s baby huh???’ ‘So you want more children to grow up in poverty/foster care/etc???’ And so on
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 01:20 AM
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what do you think about the fact that abortions have been declining for years? I’m very happy about it, and want it to continue. But ~600,000 is still about 595,000 too many (depending on how many cases involve severe danger for the mother.) The flu comparison doesn’t work because there’s no way to prove whether one particular person not taking a certain precaution had any effect on another particular person. Direct killings are another story. Still, abortion is a different than genocide. Hitler…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 01:08 AM
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https://www.mdch.state.mi.us/osr/abortion/Tab_US.asp Pick any period of 4 years in the 80s and 90s and you’ll get similar numbers to the Holocaust. And you’re right, the influenza epidemic isn’t related at all since it’s the only one of the three examples that doesn’t involve one person deliberately killing another
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 12:50 AM
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I know right? Abortion has killed at least 3x as many people
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 12:30 AM
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I just see a future where women will be even more savage when it comes to dating or will just resign to total celibacy. So not having sex with strangers or guys they don’t see a future with, only sleeping with people they’d be willing to raise a child with, aka exactly what pro life people have always advocated for. People are so close to understanding
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 05:25 PM
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Agreed. Men are only on social media for one of a couple reasons: attention/validation or trolling. One of those is better (and more fun) than the other, but neither are attractive to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 04:38 PM
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You can label things however you want but that doesn’t change anything. ‘Pro choice people still don’t understand that they’re the anti baby side’ see, we can all do that. Big difference between refraining from a vaccine or mask, and intentionally aborting an unborn child. If you’re going to say something like ‘not wearing a mask puts others at risk’ then you ought to wear a mask for the rest of time because the flu still exists and is just as dangerous as caronavirus for the vast majority of pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 04:27 PM
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In my experience 99% of women are only able to be funny when they’re not trying to be. There are exceptions but usually when they actually try to be funny, ironic, or sarcastic like a guy would, it falls flat. Women are at their funniest when they’re being sincere. For example when they hear an outrageous joke and take it completely seriously, ‘why would he say something so crazy? That’s really odd!’ ...Or when they are annoyed by mundane things, or make up little games to play with babies, and …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 03:48 PM
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how difficult it is to be thin Part of the problem is that most people have been completely fooled about how many calories they should be having. Just like how the food pyramid is actually not healthy at all. We’re all told that 2,000 calories per day is appropriate, but the reality is that for a woman of average height (5’4) who doesn’t get an above average amount of exercise, 2,000 is way too many. Someone like that doesn’t need 2k calories of energy to get through the day. For example, my wif…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 08:52 PM
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It’s easy if you have willpower. Most people don’t Most people also absentmindedly destroy their chances of losing weight by drinking their calories with pop or beer, or high carb snacks that quickly add up. A restaurant meal alone sometimes exceeds the amount of calories you should be having for the entire day. You don’t have to ‘stuff yourself with pie endlessly’. This stuff is easy to fix if you’re honest with yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 08:22 PM
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it’s quite difficult to get skinny actually - obviously the theory is straightforward but the execution is not No it’s not, just eat less Unless you have some uncontrollable health problem that doesn’t allow you to lose weight, it all comes down to lifestyle. Burn more calories than you consume
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 08:14 PM
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Yes, that’s why you have a choice to have sex. You aren’t forced to risk pregnancy
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 01:38 PM
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Correct, the scenario depends on whether you’re ending another human life, it’s really not that hard to understand
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 04:19 AM
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Those are both outlier examples that don’t represent the vast majority of abortions. Why do pro-abortionists always jump to these types of cases? Why not defend the ones that pro-life people are arguing against - ones where the life of the mother is not in danger and the pregnancy is viable? It’s telling that when pro-choice people want to defend abortion, they always immediately jump to the most horrible outlier cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 04:17 AM
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This is not even close to the same situation because treating your own STD doesn’t end another human’s life.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 04:12 AM
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Correct. Both are human life.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 03:39 AM
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If they are going to have an abortion in the event of a pregnancy, yes. If you want to have sex for pleasure and aren’t actively trying to get pregnant, that’s fine. But they should also be prepared for the possibility of raising (not aborting) a child in case protection somehow fails. Wonder what the husband's who feel entitled to sex will have to say about that. Those are bad husbands and they’re in the wrong too. Everything I said above goes for men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 03:05 AM
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Whether you were married or not doesn’t matter. I mentioned causal sex because that’s what’s mentioned in the OP. If I were to reword my comment to fit your specific situation, it would be ‘don’t have sex when you’re not ready to have a child - don’t get pregnant - problem solved.’ Argument = validated 😎
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 03:02 AM
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There are women in long-term marriages with two or three kids who get abortions when they know they don't want kids anymore. Then they should get sterilized. And then what exactly? Do you not seem to comprehend why women get abortions in the first place? The ‘then what’ should be figured out before you decide to have sex. I get that a lot of times it’s not a great situation, but the reality is that if you choose to have sex, you need to be prepared for what it could cause. If the parents truly c…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 02:59 AM
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You and I are clumps of cells. Infant, baby, fetus, whatever you want to call it, it’s a human life and shouldn’t be killed.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 02:49 AM
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Condoms only prevent a pregnancy, they don’t end one that’s already begun. I’m not in favor of them personally, but I’m not against them on a large scale for the reason I stated above. If others want to use them I have no issues with it. But I also believe that if the condom fails, the couple should be prepared to raise the child.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 02:48 AM
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Of course it is. Don’t have causal sex - don’t get pregnant - problem solved. If for some reason you can’t refrain from having sex and do get pregnant - don’t get an abortion. No need to go through a ‘dangerous back alley abortion’. Again, problem solved.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 02:45 AM
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In certain cases yes - if it ends a pregnancy that began very recently. In other cases, no - if the woman was not pregnant. I am against the morning after pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 02:43 AM
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This is always the argument that comes up, but it makes no sense to me. Seems like it should be so easy to solve...maybe they shouldn’t try to get abortions if they’re that dangerous?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 02:37 AM
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Have causal sex, get pregnant, and kill a baby...strange way to show that you believe in ‘human rights’...being that the ultimate human right is ‘life’ You have the right to choose whether or not to have causal sex. The baby has a right to not be killed.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 02:32 AM
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Overturning Roe v Wade is legitimately the most virtuous thing the US has done in any of our lifetimes. Probably won’t stop people from having casual sex, but who knows, maybe it will act as a deterrent. I sure hope so, casual sex and its acceptance in society is extremely damaging
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 02:19 AM
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Is this really necessary brah
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 03:12 AM
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Yeah i find it absolutely grotesque. Not necessarily the people themselves, but the lifestyle they must live. The statistic mentioned for women, 5’4 at 170 pounds, was taken as an average for 20 year old women. I can understand having those metrics in middle age, after a few kids. But at 20 years old, that is just pathetic
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 05:30 PM
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Stop fooling yourselves (especially men). Anything over 1 is high. There is no situation where a high count is a good sign. For example a count of 5 means that either: A) the person has had 5 failed long term relationships. Kind of makes you wonder why they all failed. B) they have had a bunch of causal sex. But don’t worry, you’re DEFINITELY the one they’re finally going to settle down with. Don’t settle. The people who shame you for having standards are, more often than not, just upset that th…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 10:02 PM
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A lot of guys are dumb, like they have nothing going on in their brain. Their sex is probably really bad. It takes a certain kind of intelligence to be good at sex. Most girls are putting up with sex in their relationships in exchange for emotional/financial support. Who’s dumber, the dumb person or the person who willingly sleeps with a dumb person?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 06:00 PM
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Yes, don’t ever have sex again with someone who you wouldn’t be willing to raise a child with should a pregnancy arise. That would be a smart decision
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 06:14 PM
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The most effective form of birth control is actually completely free
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 06:13 PM
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There’s a big difference between legitimate, necessary medical care and ‘perform this procedure on me so I can have sex without risk of pregnancy’ One is necessary, one is not
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 05:49 PM
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Great way to solve all of this: never sleep with someone you wouldn’t be willing to raise a child with. Have some self control
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 05:46 PM
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I’m talking generally. Of course there are exceptions, but that’s the point, they’re not the norm. I should have mentioned in my post, I’m expecting at least half the comments to be some variation of ‘I’m the exception, I have tons of friends of the opposite sex that I’m not attracted to!’ And if you truly are an exception, that’s great and I’m happy that you’re able to make it work. But generally, this is not the case
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 12:38 AM
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Haha gotcha, yeah I can understand that
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 06:02 PM
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Well, my argument makes the assumption that you don’t willingly date crazy people
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 05:56 PM
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To give a serious answer, you don’t need to sleep around to discover your ‘kinks’ or what you enjoy. That can easily be learned with a single partner. Like I said, ‘sexual compatibility’ is what people use when they want to excuse their own promiscuous behavior or to rationalize dating someone who’s slept around.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 05:55 PM
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I think trying to be afraid of promiscuity is a sad state but I understand it, just like I understand a lot of people are afraid to travel and like to stay in their comfort zone. I don’t believe we should demonize those who are adventurous. Hope she sees this
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 05:47 PM
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I think most people here are missing the point. If your husband is into BDSM and knows you’re not into it...assuming you’ve chosen a good husband who genuinely cares about you, he won’t force you to do it. It’s not about liking all of the exact same things. It means caring about your spouse enough to not force them to things they’re uncomfortable with, and putting in extra effort to make things enjoyable for them...because you genuinely want them to be happy, like a spouse should.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 05:12 PM
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I have experienced it. My wife and I were virgins when we married, we don’t like all the same things but that’s ok because we loved each other BEFORE we ever slept together. Because of that, we bboth put in effort to make things enjoyable for the other, even if we don’t like every exact thing to the exact same degree. All the other stuff you mentioned comes naturally when you’re genuinely in love.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 05:08 PM
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Like I said, If you genuinely care about each other, you don’t need to like exactly the same things. You’ll both put in effort to make it enjoyable for your spouse, knowing they’ll do the same for you. That’s why waiting to sleep together is so important. Love should come before sex
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 05:04 PM
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Women here saying they’d go ahead with an abortion, that’s extremely sad. Never, ever, have sex with someone you wouldn’t be prepared to raise a child with.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 04:33 PM
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Sorry you’re so discouraged. As someone who agrees with you on a lot of the problems of modern women, dating, etc...yeah it’s tough but having a defeatist attitude is not the way to go. All great men have fought uphill battles, with the majority of their peers not understanding, ignoring, or flat out mocking the challenges they faced. You can do it bro. There is a good woman out there somewhere, just remember, carry yourself like a MAN. Your attitude shouldn’t be ‘women have all the privilege an…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 03:51 AM
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people look down on sex workers and prostitutes, and see them as dirty and lower Yes I do. The same way I look down on deadbeat dads. The reason is that they all treat sex as something much less intimate than it should be. Their behavior shows someone who is very material, not loyal, and not responsible. Also, probably not healthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/22 09:42 PM
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Yeah more men need to realize that unless you’re doing something extraordinary with your life and changing the world, and 99.99% of us aren’t, the greatest thing you can do to fulfill your potential as a man is to become a good father. That’s what determines your true value, not how many women you sleep with or how attractive of a woman you can sleep with. Like you said, there aren’t many of those types of role models in pop culture or in many men’s lives, so it’s up to a lot of men to start the…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 10:05 PM
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Platonic friendships (I’m talking close friendships, where you regularly hang out one on one) do not exist, because men don’t generally go out of their way to pursue one on one time with women they’re not at all attracted to. Close friendship with the opposite sex is exactly what your spouse is for.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 01:54 PM
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Tattoos are very masculine Exactly. I don’t like tattoos on anyone...but it’s a more masculine thing so it’s even more out of place on women. Same with smoking cigs. Bad for anyone but looks worse for women. Plus, a good portion of tattoos are done solely for attention which is a bad sign. Most people with tattoos wouldn’t have them if there was nobody on else earth to see them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 04:38 AM
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Hope she sees this bro
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 04:33 AM
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We had kids right away, still working towards her being able to stay home full time but we’re getting there. Biggest things that ‘went right’- she had no debt, and never wanted to put off having kids
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/22 09:10 PM
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It would make me cautious. I was lucky because my wife had 2 yr degree and a job in that field when we met, but made it very clear that after marriage, she would never intentionally put off having kids for the sake of her job, and would even quit entirely if it was financially doable. I think more people should think this way, and should think twice before pursuing one that requires enough schooling to put them in debt well into their 30s. We’re fooled into thinking that our greatest accomplishm…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/22 08:49 PM
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Well I’d say that if any of those things are social constructs, and not objective pre existing principles, then even knowledge itself would be impossible
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/22 06:32 PM
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Where do you draw the line between what’s a social construct and what’s not? The words in a language themselves are a social construct I agree, but human ability to perceive meaning thru language isnt a social construct. Similarly things like logic, morals, etc, do you consider those social constructs too?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/22 06:27 PM
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virginity is a social construct I really don’t want to be rude, but this is total nonsense. ‘Every action I made in the past is a social construct’
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/22 06:07 PM
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Traditional gender roles are the best and generally play to each gender’s strengths. (Yes, there are exceptions, but when we are talking about the groups as large as the entirety of each gender, we’re allowed to generalize a bit) Modern feminism has simply turned women into just more ‘economic units’, which is way more dehumanizing that they think being a stay at home mom is.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/22 06:00 PM
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No, but their entire worldview is shaped by her thinking, whether they realize it or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/22 05:54 PM
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You’re extremely naive if you think kids’ value systems aren’t greatly influenced by their parents, teachers, or really any adults in their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/22 01:31 PM
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Yeah and censorship usually pushes a person further into their beliefs. It’s too bad because the red pill does have some problems. They are correct about the problems with modern women and dating. BUT where they’re wrong is they fail to hold men accountable by promoting hookups and pickup artistry. Women would be a lot more receptive to redpill ideas if men as a whole held themselves to the same standard. Don’t like it when women are sluts and sleep around? Don’t do it yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/22 01:28 PM
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And I don't know why anyone would expect schools to teach values Because certain topics cannot be removed from the personal values of the ‘teacher’. the values I teach So there you go. Like I said, you teach values, just like everyone else. Not saying that’s inherently wrong, because it’s impossible not to...but it’s totally reasonable for parents not to want some public school teacher that they don’t know, pushing agendas on their kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/22 01:13 PM
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Not if you’re theyre parent. When public school teachers insist on doing it, yeah that’s a little weird. It’s impossible to teach about something like sex or lgbt without it being infused with the values and opinions of the person teaching it. So the fact that parents want to control who ‘teaches’ their children is 100% reasonable
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/22 01:03 PM
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There’s a difference between an inability to do something, and willfully refraining from actively pursuing it. My ‘friend’ needs are met and have been for years, by my lifelong male friends. I have platonic friendships with their wives, and my wife’s friends, but there’s no reason for me to go out and pursue additional platonic friendships now.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/22 04:55 AM
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It’s not hard to understand - when we were actively pursuing a relationship, we both had the intention pursue single members of the opposite sex, in order to find a relarionship. Now that need has been fulfilled bc we found each other and got married, so there’s no need or desire for either of us to pursue single friends of the opposite sex. We have each other, as well as plenty of friends of both sexes.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/22 04:42 AM
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Me too haha. It’s very easy to get carried away on here sometimes. Thanks and have a good one bro
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/22 04:38 AM
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It was completely fine, because we were single at the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/22 04:37 AM
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100% agree and appreciate the sentiment man. I see you telling the truth
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/22 04:33 AM
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When we were single, she had a few close female friends that she grew up with, I had a few close male friends I grew up with. We each had plenty of close family members that we consider friends as well. We started dating, found each other, became friends and got married. Our pre existing friends have also been married since, so now we’re friends with multiple couples on both sides.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/22 04:32 AM
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And once again, there is no ‘limiting’ of friendships that isn’t completely voluntary. Neither one of us has any desire to pursue single friends of the opposite sex. It’s not hard to understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/22 04:27 AM
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There's nothing a guy friend can give her that a female friend can't. This is a great point. I’ve tried to explain to others how neither my wife or I pursue or have single friends of the opposite sex. When you’re married, there’s no benefit to it. The only male friend my wife needs is me, and the only female friend I need is my wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/22 04:20 AM
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Never forget that having immovable standards is one of the most ‘secure’ things you can do. Good post. Stop simping, be a man and don’t listen to the inevitable comments calling OP sexist, insecure, controlling, etc... Also remember. Your grandma (or any wholesome female role model in your life) was most likely not going out and getting drunk downtown, or talking to her ex, while she was married to your grandpa. Your standards can and should be high. If you have some self respect, and are fortun…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/22 03:25 AM
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Keep reaching Once again, I don’t limit her friendships in any way. She simply has no desire to make single male friends, I have no desire to make single female friends, nothing deeper than that. We are married, rarely attend social events separately, and are already at our ‘friend’ capacity, for lack of a better word. I get that you’re not buying it, because judging by the way you constantly assume someone wants to be cheating, someone is dominating, etc...you clearly can’t conceive of an innoc…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/22 03:14 AM
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You’re really trying hard to make this a ‘sexism’ thing huh I don’t ‘dictate’ a thing. We trust each other and both have plenty of friends, as well as siblings and cousins that we’re very close to. Our time and energy is devoted to them. Neither of us has any reason or desire or time to go out and pursue single friends of the opposite sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/22 03:06 AM
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We’re worried about the bad intentions of men who see women as nothing more than sexual partners. I’m able trust my wife to avoid those types of men...the point is, other men aren’t so lucky. And cheating often comes out of the blue, so the ‘just don’t date someone who might cheat bro’ argument doesn’t really work. I never said anything about ‘legislating’ friends. Just saying, lots of men only see women as potential sex partners, so men who aren’t crazy about their gfs having lots of male frien…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/22 03:01 AM
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Of course not. But I (and she) would rather not be in that situation at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/22 02:55 AM
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This is a whole lot of assumptions. You realize it’s possible for a man to trust his gf while also realizing that not everyone has good intentions? And luckily this doesn’t apply to me, but some men can be totally blindsided by their gf doing something like that. If you could know someone would cheat ahead of time, cheating wouldn’t exist because nobody would ever date future cheaters. Also, stuff like this I’m glad you married your only legitimate female friend, but as a guy who has managed to …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/22 02:43 AM
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Yeah, I agree, there are obviously exceptions and lots of good men and it’s great that you know some of them. But there are lots of others that only see women as potential partners. Not that you don’t know that, but I’m just saying it to illustrate that it’s not totally unfounded when men don’t want their gfs to have a bunch of male friends
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/22 02:22 AM
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Because a lot of men only see women as potential sexual partners, like you said. I don’t agree with them behaving that way (I advocate waiting for marriage and having one partner), but that’s the reality of the way a lot of men think.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/22 02:17 AM
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I think you’ve just inadvertently discovered the reason that men aren’t crazy about their gfs having lots of male friends ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/22 02:13 AM
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It just comes from being a man and knowing how men think. Most guys don’t go out of their way to befriend women that they aren’t at least somewhat attracted to or interested in. I made one legitimate female friend and then I married her. Only time it really really works is if one of your male friends is serious with/married to/actively pursuing a girl - and you become friends with her by spending time with both of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/22 02:08 AM
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You’re correct but I don’t think it’s for the reasons you think. Has more to do with the social conditioning of the last 60ish years, not hundreds. Blame the oversexualization of society, sexual revolution, promiscuity for desensitizing everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/22 04:24 PM
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Which is it, they want casual sex or don’t they? Deep down most of them don’t. But because men (yourself included) pursue it, a lot of women get fooled into thinking that’s how you achieve intimacy or get male attention. Then, in turn, men need to stop rewarding that kind of behavior in women. Stop having causal sex. That’s the REAL problem with modern dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 07:54 PM
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Yeah, like I said, there are men who have a double standard and don’t live up to the expectations they have of others. That is not purity to me, so we probably have different definitions of what ‘purity culture’ is.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 05:40 PM
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You’re assuming a lot about a very simple statement. The only one that I’ll respond to is this, the rest are total nonsense. the culture that teaches that women are responsible for the sexual thoughts, feelings and choices men make Nobody teaches this. In fact, the conservative attitudes that you’re arguing against, are the ONLY ones who consistently say that both women AND men take responsibility for the choices they make sexually. It’s also the only one that advocates for personal responsibili…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 05:36 PM
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The point is, every single group of people is intolerant of others doing things a different way. This is not exclusive to conservatism but will often be used to discredit conservatives
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 05:29 PM
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It benefits me if I participate in it, just as it benefits anyone else. I expect my potential wife to wait for marriage, so I wait for marriage too. No double standard, no inequality.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 05:28 PM
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None of what I described is any of those things, but go ahead and keep buying into those buzzwords.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 05:19 PM
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...as opposed to people like you who are very tolerant of conservative women having different views and lifestyle than what you think they should have?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 05:17 PM
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I don’t know what you mean by purity culture, but what I mean is: wait for marriage, no casual sex (for anyone), one husband one wife Edit: Some men definitely have a double standard where they think it’s ok for them to have causal sex, but expect women to be modest with very few partners. They are correct in their expectation, but extremely wrong in their own behavior
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 05:00 PM
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religion Good purity culture Good internalized misogyny This is just when women are mean to other women but want to find some way to blame it on men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 04:52 PM
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Exactly. When someone tells you they’ve slept with 5 people, all that means is they’ve slept with 5 people that they’re willing to admit to. And depending on the person there might be a few where ‘we only did (x) sexual act but didn’t have full on sex, so that one doesn’t count’
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 03:15 AM
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3 was just an example because the ideal (1) is not always realistic - but yeah I meant 3 lifetime. 1, maybe 2 lifetime is perfect and totally destroys the myth of ‘sexual incompatibility’ that you’ll see people use as an excuse for being ok with high counts. I was lucky to marry someone who was also a virgin at marriage. Not once did we ever worry if we’d be ‘sexually compatible’, it didn’t ever cross our minds...because we loved each other before we ever had sex. So we knew we could easily over…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 03:11 AM
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Yes, you should value the count. Best case scenario, each number on the count is an LTR that didn’t work. And even that’s not great, for example if someone has been in and out of 5 LTRs that’s a red flag. Worst case, some numbers on the count are FWBs or one night stands - neither are good and in my opinion show that sex is being treated much less intimately than it should be. Bottom line...once you’re past around 3 partners, it’s fairly safe to assume that if a person has had x amount of partne…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 02:58 AM
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You people are like a broken record with the ‘insecurity’ argument.. There’s no insecurity about it. Most people just know that if a person is still single after 25 partners, chances are they’re gonna be single after 26 too. The higher the count gets, the less confidence many people have in long term viability. I’ve said it a few times here, but unapologetically sticking to your standards is the most secure thing you can do.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 12:59 AM
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And that’s supposed to be better? ‘Yeah she has 10 previous partners but it’s ok because she was trying to find a relationship...huh? Yeah none of them actually worked out...but I’m number 11 and it’s gonna be different this time!’
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/22 05:28 PM
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We’re really grasping at straws if we’re thinking that things are ok because most people have less than 10 partners. It should be less than 3, for men and women. Don’t sleep around, reject casual sex
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/22 05:13 PM
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Exhibit A of the shaming I’m telling people not to listen to or get discouraged by. Couldn’t have written it up better if I tried. All those words are wasted on me because I’m lucky to have married a woman who was also waiting for marriage - but to all the men and women reading this - dont let this type of shaming get to you. If you want a partner with a low count, that’s a completely reasonable standard. When people act like you’re the problem for having that standard (see: comment I’m replying…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/22 05:22 PM
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I’d guess you’re referring to the guys who say things along the lines of ‘if she’s slept with x amount of guys, she’ll always be thinking about them and not just me’...something like that. I don’t think that’s insecurity, I think it’s just logical, and a realization that when she’s hopped from partner to partner, there’s no reason to think that you’re special and that she’d just all of a sudden settle down with you. With that many previous partners, it’s pretty reasonable to assume that while th…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/22 04:51 PM
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It has nothing to do with insecurity. Most people just realize it’s hard to turn a hoe into a housewife or a playboy into a husband. To all the men (and women) reading this, don’t be shamed into settling for a partner who’s slept around because you might get called insecure. Unapologetically sticking to your standards, even when they’re not popular, is the most secure thing you can do. Also, if you’re worried about experience and learning things in bed - that’s what a long term, stable relations…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/22 04:37 PM
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Spot on. I think I misunderstood your original comment haha. Sounds like we agree
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/22 04:10 PM
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I agree, what I don’t agree with is thinking it has anything to do with insecurity. No man is opposed to dating a girl who’s slept around because he’s worried she might’ve slept with a man who does it better than he does. I doubt that ever crosses his mind. He’s opposed to it because deep down he knows you can’t turn a h0e into a housewife or a playboy into a husband
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/22 04:06 PM
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Only reason the guy is insecure in that situation is because he’s ok with dating women who’ve had hookups..not because he asks legitimate questions about her past. Same goes the opposite way too- women also have every right to ask about a man’s sexual past and have standards for it
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/22 04:01 PM
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Sorry to hear about the issues, whatever they might be. As someone who agrees with all you’re saying about modern men and women, dating, and porn...I’d give some advice - don’t let all that knowledge get you too discouraged about dating. Now this advice may be misplaced - but who knows maybe it’s relevant as I feel like I may have had some similar experiences. Before I met my wife, I was worried I’d eventually have to lower my standards and sort of temporarily participate in this cuck culture fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/22 03:09 AM
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Ok, whatever set of standards you think is equivalent to mine, is completely subjective. The point is, my standards aren’t ‘rude’ and there’s no reason to be ‘tactful’ and beat around the bush when it comes to them, because they’re totally reasonable. Standards only seem rude to people who don’t meet the standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/22 02:39 AM
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This is such a weird argument. People clearly care about my standards if they feel compelled to shame them. It implies that my standard are somehow harmful, and that then implies there’s some optimal set of standards that they think I ‘should’ have instead. And I don’t understand how that’s rude at all. It’s just not popular. It’s no more rude than a woman saying she wants a man with a job and a house. Or a guy saying he wants a girl who ‘knows what she’s doing in bed’ (in fact i’d argue that’s …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/22 02:34 AM
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Yes, absolutely
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/22 02:13 AM
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Literally 50% of all marriages end, no matter how badly you want it, if the other person in the relationship wants to leave, they will. Yes, and part of that is due to the rise of premarital and casual sex. Divorce rate is generally lower when neither spouse had premarital sex. Plus marriage gives a bit more incentive to work things out, as it’s more inconvenient to leave if you meet someone who’s a perfect match for you personality wise, but you find out she has one more sexual partner than you…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/22 02:08 AM
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When you finally lose your virginity, God forbid that girl breaks up with you or you break up with them. This is exactly why you wait for marriage to start sleeping together.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/22 01:28 AM
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Maybe we do, but colleges and political culture in general will give you backlash for it. And honestly, good for him
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/22 01:23 AM
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They’re not desireable at all, but you’re also not able to say that without quite a bit of criticism. You’ll most likely be called ‘insecure’ for having the audacity to not want a partner who’s slept around with tons of people. So I think there is something to what OP is saying
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/22 01:08 AM
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Oh really? Try posting a comment like ‘I am a man and will only date debt free virgins without tattoos’, and see how that goes over.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/22 01:04 AM
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Hey you’re all good man. I still disagree on the politics stuff but I probably got a little heated myself in my response so I apologize too. Way too easy get carried away over the internet haha so I totally get it. You have a good week too bro
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 11:16 PM
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It’s very simple man. Not sure what ‘word salad’ you’re seeing, unless you’re looking at your own comment. If Smith were an outspoken conservative, this incident would absolutely be treated by the media and Hollywood as exhibit A of why conservatism is wrong and ‘violent’. Now, since he’s a Hollywood liberal, he’s rightfully getting clowned for it, but the criticism is limited to him personally and not being used to discredit his entire worldview. P.S. - You’re trying way too hard to put on an a…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 10:31 PM
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Yes, sex releases the chemicals in your brain that are also connected to emotional attachment, attraction, joy...basically, love. So while you may say ‘I can separate sex from love’ your brain really can’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 09:05 PM
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Nobody can but a lot of people fool themselves into thinking they can. Sex releases chemicals in your brain that are also related to attraction and emotion and that’s unavoidable. Also, whether they realize it or not, sleeping around destroys their ability to pair bond
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 08:49 PM
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We all know that if Will Smith were an outspoken conservative, conservatives would never be able to live this down and it would be the go-to example of ‘toxic masculinity’ Instead he’s a Hollywood liberal, so some people will be annoyed by this for a few weeks and then completely forget about it
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 03:59 PM
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There’s an interview with will and jada where they talk about it pretty candidly. Will was clearly not aware she was sleeping with another man when she started doing it, and is clearly upset by it. Doesn’t seem like the reaction he’d have if it were an open marriage. It may be an open marriage now (we don’t even know that) but it certainly was not at the start.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 03:10 PM
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Giant strawman People think Will Smith is weak because his wife slept with other men and he stayed with her. Then acted like a moron to ‘defend the honor’ of a woman who cheated on him. And he lashed out at a pretty tame joke honestly. There’s a lot of material there, he should be thankful Chris Rock went as easy on her as he did. coddle an abusive man that annihilates his entire family as a “family man” Nobody does this
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 02:20 PM
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I think he’s just acting little erratic because he knows deep down that he’s a simp, and that his wife and most men don’t respect him...and ‘overcorrected’ in order to look tough and traditional.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 02:07 PM
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I’m saying that just because the scientific community says something does not mean it’s 100% fact. Any reasonable person can understand that gravity is more observable than evolution or the Big Bang. We have never observed inter species evolution in any way. Abrahamic religions were created to control people This is the classic lie as if you’re totally liberated if you don’t practice some religion. Everyone serves something. Clearly you believe them but then you should believe every single story…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 09:44 PM
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It’s bad because it destroys a person’s ability to pair bond, turns sex into something transactional that is self serving, rather than something to be shared with one person who you love...and causes others to chase cheap, quick thrills rather than pursue stable relationships. Also with sex potentially being readily available from casual partners, it makes it harder for some people to stay satisfied in a serious relationship, a lot of people get the feeling that they’re missing out or that there…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 09:22 PM
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And then you discover that you both dislike each other's kinks That’s why it’s important to have very few sexual partners. If you truly care about the person, you’ll develop alongside them, figure out what each of you like, and if you have some differences - you live with it -and work it out together because you want to please each other. Oh is it too much work? No, it’s unnecessary and degenerate.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 09:15 PM
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Whatever the official term the ‘scientific community’ uses to describe gravity, it’s clearly not equivalent to evolution. We can readily and physically observe it How can a book written by men about events that were oral folklore be taken as fact? But how do you know they’re just folklore? For example every single ancient society has a worldwide flood story. Plus, we have just as much evidence for biblical events as we do for other historical events that are accepted as fact without a second tho…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 09:13 PM
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Gravity is observable and reproduceable at any time, anywhere on earth. Big Bang and inter-species evolution have never been observed or produced. Kind of dishonest to put gravity in the same category. Religion is literally just fairytales like snowwhite or Cinderella And you know this how?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 08:47 PM
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Hope she sees this bro
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 08:45 PM
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The Big Bang and evolution are fairy tales if you go by the scientific method.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 08:33 PM
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How exactly are they incompatible with a scientific understanding of how the universe works? Id argue that the only way we can have a scientific understanding of the universe at all, is if there’s a Creator Surely there are better forms of philosophy to cope with existential angst than religious superstitions? Every belief system has aspects that you might call ‘superstitions’ or fairy tales. For example, our secular society prides itself on science and generally assumes that all things must be …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 08:24 PM
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Yeah, they act like you can’t easily get the exact same experience and ‘know what you’re doing’ with just you and your wife in about a month. Really, what is a person learning while sleeping around with different people? What hidden skills in bed are they getting that are so hard to learn? Is there anything you can’t learn with just one partner? You’re absolutely right that it’s cuckoldry. I think lots of men are so conditioned to think that it’s mysoginstic to have standards when it comes to se…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 07:34 PM
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Skill can be learned extremely easily. You can develop those skills with your wife in about a month, and skip the part where you’ve both slept around with a bunch of different people.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 07:26 PM
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This is the strangest argument. Sexual compatibility, skills in bed, etc can be learned. Pretty easily too. Why would a grown man or woman want a partner with tons of experience? Let them have the experience with you. Really don’t understand why that’s such a big inconvenience that you’d rather settle for a person who’s slept with 10+ partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 07:24 PM
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Plus, who cares? Sexual compatibility, and skills in bed can be learned, easily. But you can’t undo sleeping with 10+ different partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 07:22 PM
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Those things are only truly valuable if there’s potential that you might commit. What value are your financials to a woman if you’re not going to commit to having a family with her? Appearance and social status really only provide ‘value’ to yourself. there's more to life and more options than just having kids and building a family Sure, but that’s one of the few things that will really last. And most people who say this, aren’t really doing anything all that worthwhile in the place of having a …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 05:21 AM
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A smart and high value man absolutely commits. Being high value means being a good father, and grandfather. Where else does the value come from? Some meaningless career? Unless you’re like George Washington and literally changing the world, the largest part of your value as a man is your potential to be a strong father. Sleeping around is not the behavior of a high value man (or woman)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 04:06 AM
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Most relationships especially for young people will simply not last. Lets say you are a young male who’s like 22 and in a relationship with a women the same age, you date for 4 years and then it ends up not working out Part of the reason that is true is BECAUSE they date for four years and don’t get married. There really should never be a situation where you’re dating for four years - if you like someone enough to be around them that long, you need to be married. You’re right that a lot of young…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 03:48 AM
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Good to see someone who thinks the same as me. It’s crazy to see other people giving answers like 10 or 20, as if 8 or 9 is totally fine You’re spot on with 1. 2 is ok in exceptional circumstances. Anything over 2 is an instant dealbreaker. Never settle
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 03:10 AM
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Right but you said man who’s so insecure, jealous and out of touch with reality he actively searches for some virginal woman Which is what I was first responding to. I’m talking about men and women with lots of sexual partners and saying that it’s bad no matter which gender does it
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 07:58 PM
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Yes, and so is my wife. Neither of us would’ve settled for less. I just think it’s dishonest to assume that insecurity has anything to do with a man or woman preferring a partner without an extensive sexual history - it’s a totally natural preference. In fact, being completely open about your expectations, when they’re not all that popular with the rise of hookups and causal sex - is ironically a very secure and self-assured thing to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 06:55 PM
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‘You’d prefer to date someone who hasn’t slept with a lot of people? Actually, you’re just insecure’ It’s called having standards. Nothing wrong with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 06:51 PM
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gaslighting The quintessential female term in a debate. Good day to you too.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 02:36 AM
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Funny how you get so worked up and emotional. I thought you said you weren’t a woman ;) What did I say that was wrong? Are men not supposed to lead?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 12:15 AM
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What an argument. The reason that it's pathetic that I have casual sex and enable women to sleep around is because I'm not a woman Well, yes. You’re a man, it’s your responsibility to lead. The women of a society go where the men allow them to. If you want to hookup and have causal sex, that’s on you. But what I’m saying is, don’t be surprised when you only find promiscuous women. It's MY choice what type of relationships I want to have with women. Your choices are wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 12:10 AM
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I know you’re not a woman. That’s why it’s pathetic of you have casual sex and enable women to sleep around. Men who sleep around are part of the reason that modern women are the way that they are. And you want proof? It’s just like porn addiction. Every time you have causal sex, or watch porn in this example, the reward systems in your brain are activated. Over time you’re desensitized. With real life sex and relationships - it basically reduces your attention span. In other words, your brain w…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 12:01 AM
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So you want women to have conservative sexual values but can’t be bothered to practice them yourself. Kinda weak You’re just all over the place dude. You talk about teaching conservative sexual values to your children but then act like refraining from causal sex is beneath you and scoff at the idea of practicing what you preach. That was NOT your argument. You very clearly stated not to have casual sex because it hurts a woman's chances of finding a good husband. Almost like there are multiple r…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 11:44 PM
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I agree with you - I can’t imagine a scenario where I meet a woman who I genuinely like enough to go out of my way to spend time with, where I don’t also have some romantic interest in her. Only time it’s possible in my opinion is becoming friends with your guy friends’ wives.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 11:32 PM
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Yes, that was my argument - Casual sex is bad for whoever does it. Destroys your ability to pair bond. If you want a wife who’s not a slut, you can’t be a slut yourself. Then it's my job to bring her up with proper values so she's not f dudes casually Gotta have proper values yourself in order to do this. You obviously think a woman who sleeps around doesn’t have proper values, but apparently you’re totally fine with enabling them
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 11:26 PM
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It’s not just for her good. It’s for yours too. I'm not her father. If she wants to have casual sex You might a girl’s father someday bro. Might change your tune a bit then
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 11:18 PM
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It’s worse for women though. And I’m a guy who’s usually pretty critical of women. If a woman spends 5+ years of her mid 20s in a relationship, and then suddenly is single, she’s done unless she wants to seriously lower her standards. The dating market for a 29-30yo woman who’s basically a divorcée is not great. Not a lot of successful, decent looking, responsible men are going to be looking for that. A 29-30yo guy has a much much easier time. This is why I’m so against causal sex - and as a man…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 08:29 PM
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Hope she sees this bro
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 10:10 PM
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Not surprising because you’re not finding the men I’m talking about. Real relationship worthy men are not hooking up with women in their ‘hoe phase’
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 08:59 PM
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it’s not super healthy to jump from one relationship to another But jumping from one hookup to another in between relationships is totally fine. Makes sense
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 08:53 PM
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Until they realize that the men worth LTRing don’t want to settle for a woman who’s been hoeing around
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 08:46 PM
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Don’t be fat, don’t be promiscuous Any normal man who wants a family will be completely happy with a plain looking girl who checks both of those boxes
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 08:38 PM
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More divorce, less marriage, less stable families
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 12:48 PM
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Hookup culture being something that’s socially tolerated is the problem. Not whether individuals have the freedom to damage themselves by doing it. The attitude of ‘if you don’t like it, you don’t have to do it’ ignores the real problem
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 05:30 AM
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Haha ok. Really struck a nerve huh I would just ask, why is ‘bodily autonomy’ (which really in your example is more just the freedom to have whatever kind of sex you want whenever you want) an objectively higher virtue than faithfulness in a relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 03:41 AM
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If you have to go outside of your relationship to do it, yes it’s wrong to act on it. am I not free to do what I please with my own body No. If you’re in a committed relationship, you’re not
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 02:56 AM
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Yeah it’s totally just a dance move. It has no sexual undertones whatsoever. It’s totally not meant to show off certain parts of your body Hope she sees this bro
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 02:51 AM
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So go without then. Or is your willpower nonexistent?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 02:46 AM
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Ethically non-monogamous Good luck with the breakup
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 10:42 PM
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Never understood this. Why would you have a long term friend that you have slept with, and not make them your husband or wife. What even is the thought process that leads a person to think, ‘Sure, this person is good enough to be friends with for years, good enough to sleep with...but good enough to commit to? No.’ Makes no sense. Just seems childish
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 10:31 PM
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Yeah it’s those conservatives who advocate for family/marriage and against divorce/infidelity/fornication and who universally condemn the cheater (man or woman) that are the problem
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 06:17 PM
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Of course simps affect the dating market. Simps create onlyfans models and the like. Then onlyfans models are off the dating market to any man who has standards. More simps = less decent women = creates more simps because young men get fooled into thinking that’s what women respond to = and so on. All bad for dating
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 04:51 AM
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Sure they were never husband or bad material, but they create women who aren’t wife material. They absolutely affect the dating market There would be no girls acting like prostitutes online if there were no simps to give them attention for it. Men need to realize how much female behavior is done for attention
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 04:45 AM
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Yeah that’s totally comparable to an average male athlete transitioning and then easily crushing every female record
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 12:26 AM
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finances This applies to men just as much health Yeah this is harder on women but not really a ‘right’. Plus a good husband will do his best to help you stay healthy career Why in the world would you want a career? I’m a man and would ruin my career for my kids 110% of the time
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 11:38 PM
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Men can ‘turn into’ women and dominate women’s sporting events, and women can’t. We have a long way to go smh
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 11:29 PM
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I think you forgot the part where the guy has to give most of his possessions and money) to the ex wife Yeah sounds like a great deal
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 11:27 PM
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Intelligence is already a highly dysgenic trait and intelligent, educated people reproduce far less in Western liberal countries There’s your problem. This is a perfect example of ‘educated’ being completely different than ‘intelligent’
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 11:07 PM
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years of watching porn, looking at IG thots, Tiktok thots Stop doing all of this. This is the root of the problem What men have to realize is that nearly everything women do is for attention, even though most of the time they pretend it isn’t. I’m sure I’ll get a response from a woman saying something along the lines of ‘but I do [x] because I like it, not for attention!’ What men have to do is stop giving attention to the things you mentioned. Completely ignore anyone who doesn’t act in a decen…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 11:03 PM
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Hope she sees this bro
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 09:09 PM
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Sure, she’s been with 25 guys and none of those relationships worked out. But I’m number 26 and THIS time it’s gonna be different! I’m special!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 08:11 PM
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Bring yourself doesn’t mean just being yourself, it means being yourself and being completely self-assured, not caring one bit what anyone thinks about it. The fact that you mask some of your ‘quirks’ means at some level you’re insecure about them. Girls can sense that even if they don’t really know what they’re sensing. That’s the problem, not the quirks themselves The good thing is, you can fake confidence. You can’t fake who you are
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 07:44 PM
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I’d rather be with a girl who has slept with 500+ guys who were all bums or not at my level than a woman who only has a body count of 1 but that guy was Cristiano Ronaldo or something Simp. Raise your standards and have some confidence in yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 06:33 PM
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Every single part of it. You damage your ability to have a stable marriage later on in exchange for a cheap thrill. You create a woman or a man with a now longer sexual history- whether we want go admit it or not, that will make them more unappealing to a potential partner later on. You have to spend time with someone you don’t really care about. Risk of pregnancy or disease. Wasting time chasing someone you have no future with. Etc..
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 09:33 PM
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They’re both the joke. You’ve had casual sex? Congratulations, you played yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 09:10 PM
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Wow I think I struck a nerve here Also More than 1 is high?? Correct. This goes for men too by the way, before you call me a sexist.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 05:02 AM
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High: more than 1 How to tell: tattoos, piercings other than ears, dyed hair, drug or alcohol use, things like that. Not 100% accurate but accurate more often than not
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 04:42 AM
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I’m saying it’s either - women had a lot of sexual partners who didn’t want to stick around - or - women are sleeping around and not sticking around. Both are bad Just don't freak out at only women having casual sex, because that's odd. Maybe you could point me to the supposed freak out? And I said in an earlier comment, casual sex is a red flag no matter who does it. Men or women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 04:31 AM
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But women reject men for relationships too Yes, and? Not sure how this refutes anything I’ve said. If anything, a woman having sex with men she doesn’t want a relationship with would be just as much of a red flag.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 01:23 AM
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Yes. And those men are very degenerate and manipulative But, because they can’t truly separate sex from ‘romance’ (even though they seem to on the outside), having causal sex often ruins their ability to form a stable relationship later on
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 01:17 AM
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How exactly was it worse for women? They were more likely to be married with kids and less likely to be a human spreadsheet for a corporation that doesn’t care about them? Sounds terrible...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 01:13 AM
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No, I don’t. People can lie to themselves and try and separate sex and romantic feeling, but it doesn’t work. Casual sex is exactly the problem. And before you ask, yes, it’s bad when men do it too.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 01:10 AM
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Some of these guys sound like they're living in a small town in the 1950's I’m sorry you’ve been lead to believe this is somehow a bad thing
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 01:02 AM
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It’s more the fact that men realize that every number on the count is a guy who thought she was good enough to sleep with, but not good enough to stick around with. Doesn’t matter who the guys were. They all came to the same conclusion and that should tell you something
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 01:01 AM
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Not a single man has ever asked my count, none of my girl friends have ever mentioned men asking them Because usually you can tell if the count is high or low without having to ask
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 12:57 AM
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afraid to have social media because he's boring Have you ever thought that maybe some guys don’t have social media because they simply don’t care (not hate) because they’re busy with actually interesting things...aka not boring?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 12:46 AM
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We get it, you just want to be tagged in his Instagram posts Most women don’t care
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 12:39 AM
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