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Dating in America is hell for men if you’re not able to initially attract women that want to sleep with you. You can be the greatest guy, the quintessential partner, but if you can’t attract women based on sexual attraction you’ll never get the chance to show it. This is why men that aren’t good relationship material but are attractive sexually will end up having the most relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 01:08 PM
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One time a girl said men want inexperienced women and women also want inexperienced men. I told her there are plenty of them out there. They’re called “incel.”
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 05:40 PM
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Idk maybe because you believe in helping people in need??? Is that such a foreign concept?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 06:15 PM
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Lmao y’all say this but then also complain about men being mean, selfish, inconsiderate, and self centered
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 06:03 PM
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Never experienced someone calling a friend for car issues Well I have. It usually goes like …Her: “my tire is low.” Me: “Check the tire pressure.” Her: “How do I do that?” Me: “I’ll be there in a minute.” A mechanic could solve the issue. But guess what? You have to pay them but a male friend does it for free.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 04:33 PM
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They both gain friendship. But the woman also gets tangible, physical benefits. Male friends are expected to be chivalrous and help out their female friends with traditional “manly” things. But there’s no expectation of female friends to help male friends out with traditionally “feminine” things. Like it’s normal for a woman to call her male friend to help her move or when she has car trouble. And if those guys don’t help they’re looked at in a negative light. But no one expects female friends t…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 04:12 PM
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I think the point is that men usually gain nothing from female friendships. And yes, being friends with someone doesn’t mean you should “gain” anything. But the reality is the female in male-female friendships usually gets something tangible from it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 04:06 PM
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This is like the bottle of lotion thinking it’s a flex that someone uses them to masturbate
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 08:22 PM
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That’s an easy way to dodge accountability for your own actions. “I’m like this because you’re like that. If you do this then I’ll change.” Smh why even sleep with that person then?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 08:20 PM
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Lmao the vast majority of women, if they’re told they’re bad in bed, will just tell that man “well go get some other girl who’s freaky enough for you.”
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 08:16 PM
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knowing full well they’ll never ask I’ve actually had women ask, or moreso “suggest” we go out, and still expect me to pay. She’ll say “hey we should go out and get something to eat sometime.” I’ll say “okay how about such and such place?” When we get there she’s still expecting me to pay lol
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 03:14 PM

I’d say men are just less shallow. Yeah you have guys that will sleep with overweight women and that’s all, but you also have a lot of guys that will actually get into relationships with overweight women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 08:33 PM

One girl told me male loneliness is worse for society because lonely males go out and assault women while lonely females just pull out their rose or vibrator
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 06:55 PM

Why would you start a “question for women” with “why are men?” Shouldn’t you be asking men why they’re avoiding marriage? It should be a “question for men.” I think the reason why it’s not is because OP probably won’t like what men say lol
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 04:34 PM
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If that’s how you see it, so be it. My point is love and relationships aren’t just about “vibes” and fun and people making you feel good. When it’s all said and done it’s about….who’s going to be there to help you when things are hard when they don’t have to? THAT’S who really loves you. Not the person that’s around because they like your personality and you have fun together.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 02:27 PM
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I think the “any woman would do” mentality comes from understanding that relationships are actually like jobs. Some people may be naturally talented at doing a job, but that doesn’t mean another person that really wants that job can’t focus on becoming great at it and become so good that they’re actually better than the naturally talented person. Hope this makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 01:06 PM

The men that have a lot of options are. It really doesn’t even have to be a lot. If he can get sex with women he might not actually want to be with, a lot of men will avoid relationships and just go from woman to woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 08:02 PM

Men want to fuck women of every shape, size, and color. But we’re particular about who we’ll actually be in a relationship with. And women get confused about where they stand because sometimes men will act like they want a relationship with a woman to sleep with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 07:58 PM
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The only reason a woman hates a lustful man is because she wants him to commit and he won’t. When he’s lustful towards her, she LOVES it
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 05:48 AM
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I think the best relationships are ones where the people involved don’t let their egos miss out on prospering from the talents of the person they’re with. For example, some women are better with money while some men might be better at cleaning. But wtbs being the “leader” doesn’t mean you actually manage or control everything. Kings had treasurers to handle money and generals to handle their military.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/25 05:40 PM
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Most older men that are with younger women aren’t exclusively into younger women. It just so happened that the person that shared mutual attraction with them happened to be younger. But on the internet people act like men that exclusively go after younger women are the majority.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 07:46 PM
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I don’t know what to tell you. If you’re a young, decent looking, relatively charming guy with a good head on your shoulders and stable employment women your age should show interest. And older women should show interest just because you’re younger. If you flirt with an older single woman and you have the traits I listed it should be easy to get one of them. Older women think it’s a flex when younger men show interest. But they don’t understand younger men show interest because they see older wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 12:04 AM
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You get it
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 11:32 PM
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Nah. Because every guy isn’t that guy in high school. But once they start working (early 20s) there’s going to be some girl his age or some older women throwing vagina at him just because he’s young. If that doesn’t happen and he’s still a virgin in his mid-late 20s it’s going to be because he’s really unattractive or super awkward. Period.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 11:20 PM
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One of the biggest forms of gaslighting today is women saying they actually prefer less experienced or virgin men. The reality is if a guy isn’t religious and he’s still a virgin past the early 20s it’s usually because he’s just not attractive or super awkward. Or both. The relatively attractive, charming guys that aren’t devoutly religious are almost never going to be virgins after a certain age. Because some woman is going to give you the opportunity to sleep with her even if you’re not asking…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 09:07 PM
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You can’t explain it because it doesn’t make sense. If that man and woman both work full time jobs there’s absolutely no difference
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 01:08 AM
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This post kind of shows why men are “the prize.” Because 99.999999% of the time, if a woman is willing to be with you, it’s because you’re “better” than her in certain ways. In general, women reject men that don’t improve their life or status in some way.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 01:05 AM
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But neuroticism in general is higher in women
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 09:23 PM
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The real answer is they don’t love the man. They love what he does for them. They love the feeling they get from knowing someone loves them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 01:29 AM
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Seriously. I know single women that have bought houses. They often have kids already or buying a house is some personal accomplishment for them. That's why you'll see them post it on their social media. I think single men just don't see buying a house as an accomplishment.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/25 07:26 AM
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It's funny that people think men aren't buying homes because they don't have money when it's really because single men don't see the point in buying a house when you don't have a family.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/25 07:13 AM
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I think poor women manage money better. But when a woman has decent money they usually spend spend spend. Trips, new purses, shoes, etc. While guys keep the same car until it's taking apart. And single men aren't buying houses because they see that as something you do when you have a family.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/25 07:10 AM
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If women were actually repulsed by promiscuous men the high count “Chad” wouldn’t exist
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 11:22 AM
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If women actually preferred “low count/virgin” men then “incel” wouldn’t be an insult. In this society a man who can’t attract women is seen as somehow defective
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 09:55 AM
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A man having a kid with a woman he doesn’t even want to be with is an idiot. But why do you think there’s more women that go on “celibacy journeys” or say no sex before marriage than men? Think about why that is and you’ll understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 04:18 PM
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“Studies” might say that but real life doesn’t. I’ve never seen a guy that was a “man whore” struggle with women. It’s almost like women compete for that guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 04:11 PM
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How is it “easier” when the man wants free, no strings attached sex and he’s able to get exactly that? The person who’s “easier” is the one giving up something without getting what they want in return.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 04:07 PM
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The reality is that when a woman has had a lot of sex it’s not really because she’s actually attractive. It’s because she made herself available to men who wanted to get their rocks off. But in order for a man to have a lot of sex he has to actually be attractive to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 03:58 PM
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I think when women say another woman is attractive it’s often not about physical aesthetics. It’s like what makes that woman attractive is the feeling that she’s the type of woman they’d want to be if they could be someone else. That includes personality, lifestyle, public persona, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 11:00 PM
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“Despite having Hollywood good looks” 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 06:06 PM
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In my experience most women never fully get over what happens with other men they were involved with. I’ve had women accuse me of cheating because I did something that reminded them of an ex that they found out cheated on them. And I’ve also dated women that were involved in domestic violence in the past panic when a conversation between us gets heated. All of this is “baggage” and why the past matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 05:46 PM
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Exactly. It’s moreso about matching colors, patterns, and having the right fit.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 10:59 PM
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If you’re a woman stop giving men that aren’t dressed well your time or attention. And tell them that’s why you can’t talk to them. That’s how people learn
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 10:57 PM

Tbh I’ve never seen a man actually say they’re lonely. I see men say they want a girlfriend or they don’t have friends. But I’ve never actually seen a man say they’re lonely. A lot of men are loners but they’re not lonely. And it’s fear mongering to say men that don’t have a woman or community are rapists and criminals. That’s just the face society tries to attach to these things. When we can see countless incidences of men with high status and extensive social groups being the rapists and abuse…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 01:02 PM

Women crave community and human contact more than men. That's why you see more men that are hermits living off the grid than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 09:50 AM

They're not delusional enough to think it's their looks that will entice those younger women though. They know they have to offer more. That's why they'll open their wallets so readily.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 09:49 AM

I don't know your gender but I'd be willing to bet money you're a woman. It's women that are actually more prone to overestimating their attractiveness because men will actually compliment and hit on women they don't even find attractive. That leads to those women thinking they actually are attractive. The old men that hit on younger women don't think they're actually attractive enough to pull them just with their looks. They think those younger women will go with them because of all the other t…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 09:47 AM
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Lmao men will approach a woman they don’t even think is attractive if they think she’ll be an easy lay. They’ll even pillow talk and straight lie and tell her she’s beautiful. Women are absolutely unaware of how attractive, or unattractive, they actually are. But men, on the other hand, if they get attention from women, or get women that even approach them, it’s because they’re genuinely attracted.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 07:51 PM
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So in other words they'd be dumbed down and not care about anything because they're getting some ass
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 04:22 AM
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You’re not gaining value if you’re low hanging fruit for some celebrity guy. You’re basically like the woman who lets a guy come over at midnight but he won’t take her out in public.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 02:28 AM
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I’d say that’s actually how most “redpill” men are. They know their views aren’t popular so they don’t go around getting into conversations about politics and social issues irl. That’s part of why they come online to talk about this stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 07:31 PM
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Everywhere. I’m in my 40s and only dated one woman that was in her 40s. All the women that I date have been 10-12 years younger. I think the key is if you’re the type of guy who people think is younger. If you see me and these women together you’d think we’re about the same age.
/r/seduction26/06/25 03:52 PM
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Yup. I had a fling with a woman like that. The first time I slept in her bed the pillows were on the side. I think she said something about having backaches and the mattress giving more support that way. Then there was another girl who liked her bed to be all the way against the wall but she liked to sleep on the open side and put me against the wall. So when I wanted to get out of the bed I had to climb over her smh. She said her reasoning was because putting the bed all the way in the corner m…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 09:47 PM
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Were they a single mother and daughter? And was the mother young when she had the daughter? One girl I dated was the daughter of a single mother & I found out her and her mother talked about our sex life when I met the mother and the first thing she said was “so you’re the freak who’s got my daughter all crazy!”
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 02:08 AM
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Age gap relationships are only a topic because people infantilize late teens-early twenties people. They can do everything including drinking & going to war for their country, but choosing who they want to be with is too much lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 10:26 AM
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Getting “princess treatment” within a relationship is different from expecting “princess treatment” from a man that just met you and is trying to date you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 02:46 PM
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I was just having a conversation with someone the other day and they were saying men “simp” for beautiful women. I said those men are idiots because they’re rewarding those women for something they really had nothing to do with. The woman that receives “princess treatment” from me is the one that gives me “prince/king treatment.”
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 02:43 PM
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One girl I know said she gets offended when “ugly” guys approach her. I told her maybe women are different, but I don’t think men look at themselves in the mirror and think “I’m ugly.” Men are wired to go thru life thinking the impossible is possible. So even if a guy looks at himself and thinks he might need a haircut, or that bump on his face isn’t completely gone, we’re wired to think our charm and personality can win anyone over.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 12:17 AM
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It doesn’t matter who does it more or less. I’m talking about women’s hypocrisy when it comes to this. The same woman that says a guy who she wants to date shouldn’t care about “body count” will turn around and call another woman a “hoe” because of how many men she’s been with. If one is a “hoe” then they both are.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 10:14 AM
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I don’t think men would disagree or try to hide their views on women’s sexual behavior. What I’m saying is women often agree with what men say about women’s sexual behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 01:07 AM
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I just think women will judge other women negatively for the same behavior that they feel they shouldn’t be judged for themselves. For example, a guys sister might tell him he’s stupid if he takes a woman that’s been with 20 guys seriously. But that same woman will turn around and tell a guy she wants to date that he should take her seriously even though she’s been with 20 guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 01:04 AM
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All I’m saying is from my experience, in mixed groups, the other guys won’t necessarily try to stop me from getting involved with a woman that might be promiscuous. They’d just be like “have fun with her.” It’ll be the other women in the group that’ll be like “oh you shouldn’t mess with her she’s a hoe. She effed that guy over there a few months ago.”
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 12:56 AM
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A lot of the time those boys/men get the scoop that a certain girl/woman is a “whore” from other girls/women. I think you’re underestimating how women talk about other women to the men they like.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 12:46 AM
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I’ve heard way more men throw those words around compared to women You’re not a man and don’t hear what women say about other women to the men they want to choose them
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 12:44 AM
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I get what you’re saying, but in my experience, women “slut shame” other women as much, if not more, than men. Every time I was casually seeing two women both world try to tell me I shouldn’t be with the other because they’re a “whore.” Basically saying I should choose the one that has had less sexual partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 12:41 AM
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Because it’s extremely easy for the men they’re attracted to. If you ever slept with a woman and thought to yourself “hmmm that was pretty easy” then she most likely assumes it’s that “easy” for you with other women. That’s why women that are highly attracted to you always think you’re a player even if your weekends usually consist of watching Netflix or playing video games.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 05:54 PM
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Here’s the thing though…a lot of men that you would say are with the “love of their life” are with her because she was there and gave him a chance that other women didn’t. Men are genuinely attracted to and could see themselves being with a wide variety of women. The thing that differentiates one woman to the next is personality. Men will choose a woman they’re less attracted to if her personality fits him better.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 02:46 PM
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That’s a problem that comes with going after the same guy every other woman wants. If a woman approached the “lone wolf” type of guy that isn’t the typical “ladies man” then he’d be so shocked and appreciative that she actually recognized something in him that other women don’t that he’d fall for her almost instantly.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 02:14 PM
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It’s funny how every guy can read those scenarios and know exactly what’s going on, but she thinks these guys are with those women because they “offer more” lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 01:56 PM
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Women don’t “offer more.” The men in your examples probably just have low self esteem and those women worship them and boost their ego. Most men don’t like to work hard for a woman. A lot of men, even accomplished men, don’t have game and aren’t naturally good with women. So they’re constantly in a desperation mode when it comes to women. So the woman that makes being with her easy for him is who he’ll often pick. The overweight gas station chick is probably giving that doctor the freakiest sex …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 01:46 PM

I guess there’s truth to what you’re saying. I have locs so besides washing my hair doesn’t take much as far as styling. But I know other brothers that see their barber every other week or even once a week. I have to remind myself sometimes that when women talk about “men” they’re usually talking about the certain demographic of men that they’re most involved with.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 01:10 PM

Yes I’m a black man. Maybe what you say is true.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 01:00 PM

There were also posts from women saying the women saying they liked the “before” picture were lying and they actually prefer the “after” physique more.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 12:51 PM

Yeah it is me because I don’t need makeup and enhancements for women to say I’m handsome. A clean and moisturized face is all I need to attract women. They talk about being jealous of my skin and I don’t even have a “skin routine.”
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 12:48 PM

it’s not about how much better she looks than he does in terms of face-shape and body built it’s how much better put-together she appears than he does That’s not real attractiveness then. Your real attractiveness “level” is how you look fresh-faced out of the shower with no enhancements.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 12:40 PM
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Because we listen to women complain about them all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 01:06 PM
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Yeah they may get with the boss babe but it's the boss babe who realizes that she's not his boss
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 10:45 PM
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They can be mean. I've had women that make a certain amount of money suggest that there's something wrong with a man if he isn't trying to at least make as much as her. So the man that's with this woman feels he can't ever just rest. He has to constantly be striving for more, because he's a man, so how is he okay with his woman making more than him smh. Not too mention the tendency to feel the person in the relationship that makes more money is by default the "boss" in the relationship. Men have…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 10:42 PM
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My idea of a need is different from most people’s I guess. A need is something that you have to do or have to live. Do I “need” a woman to cook or clean for me? No. I can do both myself. But did my female friend need me or another man to carry her bed up the stairs of her apartment? Yes. So women may not need a romantic relationship with a particular man, but they NEED men to do certain tasks they’re not physically able to do themselves. That’s what I mean when I say women need men more. This is…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 12:39 AM
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Okay for arguments sake, say a man does know how to “take care of himself” according to your definition. What does that man “need” a relationship for?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 12:01 AM
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“Functional adults” is a subjective term. Everyone has their own definition. For example, someone may feel riding around with a car that needs to be washed is not being a “functional adult.” But in the grand scheme of things, what does it matter?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 11:59 PM
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I’m in my 40s. I was married from my late 20s to late 30s. I wouldn’t say marriage was bad but I just think men sacrifice more in monogamous relationships. My ex wife even told me years later that her life was much easier with me. But I feel my life is easier being single. As a man I think if you can attract women that would want to be with you that’s better than actually being in a relationship. If your personal psychological makeup makes you happier being in a relationship that’s fine. But it’…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 11:57 PM
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Men of the past used to sacrifice their own personal wants and needs in order to be domesticated and have a family. Then at 45-50 they go thru a “mid life crisis” when they realize they’ve given their time and energy to making others lives good. Men today aren’t waiting til the “mid life crisis” to focus on themselves. That’s what’s “wrong” with modern men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 11:47 PM
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I think men that “need” a relationship just need a woman’s validation to feel they’re valuable. Or they’re the type who need a woman to do basic things for them. For example, I had one young lady I was talking to say if we were together she would make sure I have healthy meals every day. In my head I was thinking “I research nutrition studies thoroughly and already eat healthier than you.” She also said she’d make sure we focus on working out. In my head I’m thinking “I work out on my own every …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 11:41 PM
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Or to lead them to being more like women
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 11:34 PM
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I know a girl (actually a grown ass woman) who says she has to “ask her guides” about certain decisions and things she’s thinking about. Her “guides” are tarot cards. And if you say maybe there’s some other way to get advice about what she should do she’ll say things like “you’re just not as spiritually in tune as me.”
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 10:50 PM
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You’re one of the few being honest in here
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 12:25 PM
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When you say hierarchies, you're talking about how groups of men organize vs how groups of women organize?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 10:51 PM
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I think it’s more complicated than that. For men, as they grow older, if they’re able to attract women they’re less likely to want a relationship. Men that are desperate for relationships are usually less able to attract women so they’ll try to “latch onto” the first one that likes them. With women, as they grow older, even if they’re able to keep attracting men, I’ve found they eventually start feeling used if they’re just having casual situations with men who don’t do anything else for them be…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 05:04 PM
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Then she goes down the casual sex lane for a few years. Then she realizes she’s giving men her body and energy for little to nothing in return. Then she usually either goes on a “celibacy journey” or starts “dating intentionally,” ie only dating men who express that they want a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 04:41 PM
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That’s bullshit and you know it lmao. Only desperate unattractive women have sex like men. Average-above average women have men propositioning them all the time. Attractive and unattractive men. So they’ll pick the most attractive men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 01:38 PM
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It actually is though. The “flex” for women is to attract men that want a relationship. If a man sees a woman as relationship material she can get anything from him. But the “flex” for men is to attract women that want sex. If a woman is highly sexually attracted to a man he can get anything from her.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 01:36 PM
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I think it’s because a lot of women think that if a man gets cheated on or left, no matter how “good” of a man he is, that woman had a good reason. It’s rare that they just admit that another woman isn’t a good woman and makes poor decisions. Or that they were lucky to actually have the man they were with. I was talking to a girl who said the fact that my ex wife left meant that I wasn’t a good husband. But then I asked if that were really true then why did my ex wife call me months after leavin…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 01:27 PM
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I don’t know if it actually feels physically better for the woman in the moment. I really think a lot of women, in the moment, envision themselves and that man they’re attracted to who’s making them feel good, creating a baby.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 02:12 AM
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Maybe it is a US thing. But a lot of the women I’ve been with, if they really like a guy and feel like they want a relationship with him, they’ll sometimes act like that guy thinks they’re “dirty” if they (the woman) don’t want to use protection but he does.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 06:35 PM
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I’ve had the opposite experience. Women have always tried to get me to not use condoms. Sometimes I agree, sometimes I don’t. Fortunately I’ve had no “oops I’m pregnant” situations or stds
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 10:17 AM
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So what you’re saying is women have a price? I already knew this. But the argument was that women don’t like promiscuous men, period. If being “rich and hot” makes her accept the promiscuity then that means promiscuity in itself isn’t a deal breaker
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 04:02 PM
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Also, if women were really disgusted by male slurs then you wouldn’t have male athletes, rappers, and celebrities literally having their pick of women. These are all highly promiscuous men. And women line up to be with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 02:07 PM
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Okay yall be saying this lmao. But in real life men will tell you women never have an issue with them being the “ladies man.” There’s a reason men feel pressure to lose their virginity. It’s because the men that are more sexually active and experienced are seen as more attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 01:41 PM
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They do. But I never see women upset or disappointed when a man has a past as a man whore. If anything, they’ll feel it’s an accomplishment to get the man that’s so desired by many women to commit. I’ve been seen as something of a “fuck boy” before. And the women I’ll date will almost want to compare themselves to other women I’ve been with and see who I liked the most. But me, I don’t want to compare myself to other men the women I’ve been with have been with. I don’t even want to think about t…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 01:06 PM
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Because when you’re a woman who “fucks the hot guys” then you relegate yourself to the status of the “hot whore.” And you may say why do men get to pick and choose who’s the hot white vs the sweet low n count girl. Because men are the ones who ask a woman to marry.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 12:43 PM
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I think men that are too liberal-leaning come across as feminine. I find that women say they want a man that believes what they believe, but they’re just naturally more attracted to the right-leaning man.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 04:22 PM

Yeah I saw this popular streamer guy get asked by his followers how he deals with rejection from women. He said he really never deals with rejection. Because he can tell from an initial conversation if a woman is even interested. If he can see that she’s not then he doesn’t even try to pursue her. The only women he shows interest towards are the women that show interest towards him.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/25 05:17 PM
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I think there’s a difference depending on if the guy actually wants women to stick around or not. I’ve found that I love the initial phases of a relationship and don’t mind being in one long term. But I often find that the “heavy lifting” involved in actually being in a long term relationship just isn’t worth the effort. The cons usually outweigh the pros. So it may seem women don’t stick around with a guy because something about him is unattractive. But it could just be that he’s not willing to…
/r/seduction20/03/25 11:49 AM
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The best thing to do to “get” women is to just get with the women that show interest. Your experience with a “mid” woman who finds you attractive will be head and shoulders better than your experience with a “hot” woman who thinks you’re beneath her but decides to give you a chance anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 10:24 AM
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I’ve been married and in numerous relationships throughout my many trips around the Sun. No woman I was with ever cared about what type of money I made before we started dating. I’ve been involved with women for years who never knew what I made. All they knew is I could pay my bills, could afford gifts and dates, and I wasn’t begging them for money. The only time money was even a conversation was years into my marriage when we were talking about things we wanted to do. I’d never even continue ta…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 09:49 PM
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The person that actually wants to be with you
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 12:32 PM

I think the “force” used isn’t direct. There’s a way to force someone to do something by punishing them if they don’t. So the way that’s usually done is by restricting sexual access or even friendship or communication if a man isn’t acting how she wants him to act. So men learn, or feel “forced,” over time to be a certain way just to enjoy the company of a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 06:08 PM
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I guess I agree with this overall. I’ve had multiple women tell me that they need to feel the man they’re with worships them like a goddess in order to feel wanted. I’ve even had them say they’ll choose a guy they see as mentally inferior and not that intelligent if he worships them like that. But they’re more attracted to the man they see as an intellectual equal but can’t be with him if he doesn’t validate them like the less intelligent man does. This is why I say women are narcissistic by nat…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 01:48 PM
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I’d never say a woman being seductive is a bad thing. But I do say that if a man isn’t interested initially then all seduction will do is cause him to sleep with that woman then leave to look for the woman he’s really into. This woman doesn’t need to seduce him.
/r/seduction07/03/25 08:19 PM
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Because as long as a man can attract women he won’t be as bitter as the man that can’t even attract women. And when it comes to women, the woman that can attract men for sex but never for a relationship are seriously bitter. Because women in general don’t enjoy sex for the sake of sex the way men do. They feel it should lead to something more.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 03:04 PM

It’s not hard to meet certain celebrities. Rappers, athletes, etc, are not hard to reach. I’ve seen some rappers say they don’t trust marriage because they’ve been the guy that a man’s wife cheats with.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 07:58 PM
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This is why I call BS when I see women say “relationships work better when the man likes the woman more.” Because when that’s the dynamic she’ll just be even more passive.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 06:35 PM
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I tell people all the time, men that have horror stories and bad experiences with women have usually dated women that were “out of their league” or not super interested. If a man only dates women that have high interest then he’ll mostly have good experiences with women. Your experience will be better when you date women that see you as the “prize.” This means they may be equal or less attractive than you.
/r/seduction26/02/25 12:32 AM
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When it comes to topics like this I think you’ll see women answer one way publicly, but privately and in practice do something different. In public they’ll say “oh it’s cool men can have sex toys just like women. Woo hoo!” But in practice, if they find out a man has multiple fleshlights and a sex doll or whatever they’re going to look at him a certain way. And it’s not in a positive way. He’s going to be seen as some weirdo who rather use sex toys instead of going out and getting real women. Bec…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 11:40 PM
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She didn’t like your vibe even before you went out. A woman that likes your vibe won’t leave you on read and make you have to beg to go on a date.
/r/seduction15/02/25 04:13 PM
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You did this to yourself. Being left on read multiple times and “begging” to go on a date? Yeah she clearly gave every sign she didn’t like you.
/r/seduction15/02/25 04:12 PM
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No he’s actually right and I’ll give you an example of how it works. If a fit, handsome guy hits up a bigger woman she’ll often be down for late night sex with no dates and barely even any conversation. The fit, more attractive woman will demand that that man takes her out and actually wines and dines her. So it’s rarely ever the man preferring bigger women. The bigger women just are easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 12:46 AM
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Men will fuck the women that want to fuck us. That doesn’t mean we prefer the large woman. Often the large woman just makes things easier. The fit woman is more demanding and has standards you have to meet that a larger woman won’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 12:43 AM
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This is why the advice that “lonely” men should just cultivate friendships falls on deaf ears. A lot of “lonely” guys have friends. What they don’t have is someone to desire them romantically and want intimacy with them. Maybe it should be called a “desirability epidemic.”
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 07:18 PM

A lot of women expect men to protect them when there’s a threat of violence, and to change a tire on their car when it’s flat, and lift heavy things when needed. Would you say women expect a man to be a “bodyguard-mechanic-laborer?”
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 12:59 PM
2

you never wank off? Actually, no. I have in the past but I think it’s different for men. When I’d “wank off” in the past I’d always feel worse afterwards. Like a failure lol. So I developed the mentality that if I wanted sexual gratification I needed to do what it takes to attract a woman and have sex with her. I know that mentality may seem like self loathing or something to some people though.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 02:23 PM
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Yeah I saw a conversation on Twitter where some some young women were basically if their guy doesn’t talk to them for a day they take that to mean he’s no longer interested and they might as well go date another guy. All I thought was damn I’ll never get into another relationship if that’s what it takes. Because I don’t see anything wrong with going one day without talking to your significant other that you don’t live with. There’s so many other things to be doing besides sitting on the phone sa…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 01:11 PM
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I’m not just talking about my feed. I’m talking about conversations I literally have with women I personally know as well as women I don’t know online. I’m not saying they go for guys that DM them. But they do feel validated by the thought of being wanted, even if it’s just sexually.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 01:06 PM
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That’s fine. Just don’t complain about starving if you rejected the food that someone else sees as perfectly fine. Maybe there’s a need for a palate adjustment.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 10:21 AM
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In addition to using dildos and that Rose thing constantly, I’ve known women that have no problem calling a guy up for sex even if they think he’s an idiot who they wouldn’t want to be seen with. As long as the D is good. They’re basically doing the same things they accuse men of doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 10:18 AM
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I think most men view attaining and keeping a woman as work. And because humans can tend to be lazy when possible, we don’t want to have to work harder than we have to. So if we get a woman that’s “good enough” we most likely won’t leave if the “perfect” woman comes along. That “perfect” woman would have to make it so easy for us to get with and keep her for us to really do that. This is why you’ll see guys say they’ll just hook up with the super beautiful high maintenance type of woman but marr…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 10:11 AM
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I don’t even think they consciously think of it as “monkey branching” or anything nefarious. It just seems to miraculously happen that the guy that they’ve been messaging for months and formed something of an emotional connection with just happens to be who they start dating when they break up with their boyfriend lol
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 10:02 AM
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I recently had a conversation with someone about this when I talked about how I don’t mind going to the movies by myself even if I’m seeing someone. They were saying “well if you’re seeing someone shouldn’t you want to go to the movies with them.” I said yeah but if it’s a film in interested in but they’re not I’d rather go by myself and not feel like I’m dragging them along to do something they don’t want to. I’m okay with that. But I think a lot of people feel being in a relationship means you…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 09:57 AM
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Sometimes it does. The person you’re with may see the things you’re interested in as “boring” so you’ll find yourself doing less of what you like and more of what you both like to do. Like I’m a book lover. On weekends it’s nothing for me to spend the whole weekend catching up on books that I’ve been meaning to read. But that’s something you do alone. The person you’re involved with will start to feel neglected.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 09:46 AM
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lol you sound like a female version of me. I tell people going out has to be really appealing in a time when you research anything get anything shipped to your door. And if you do feel like feeling the energy of people for a while you can go out and treat yourself to dinner at a restaurant or have a few drinks at a bar. Then head back to your castle lol
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 09:44 AM
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I don’t believe your friend is really as good looking as you say if he wasn’t getting women to respond back. Women simp for guys that are clearly super good looking. But there’s the whole male gaze vs female gaze thing. He might be a males idea of good looking but not necessarily a woman’s.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 09:38 AM
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This is true. I’ve personally had women reach out to me because I was in some Facebook group they were in and felt I was interesting based on comments and conversations I’d have in that group. To the point that I actually flew across country three times to visit a girl I met in a group like that and dated her for a few months long distance. And I have others that I’ve talked to for years but never met in person because they might be in another country or something. They always start by saying so…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 09:31 AM
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I’ve personally never been that kind of woman I don’t think women in Reddit realize they’re not the average woman. Just being a woman in Reddit is an indicator of that. Most women I meet don’t even use Reddit or know what it is, let alone actually post in it. They definitely use IG and TikTok though. A Reddit using woman is going to skew more “nerdy” than the average woman. So a Reddit using woman saying “I’m not like that” doesn’t mean the average woman isn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 09:24 AM
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posting thirst traps on Insta or TikTok And that’s most. I’d even say that the main reason more women don’t do it is just shyness or the feeling they’re not attractive enough. But if they weren’t as shy or had more confidence in their looks they’d be doing the same. I’ve seen women laugh when guys they don’t even know jump in their DM. Like “haha random man I know what you’re after.” But they also feel validated at being seen as attractive enough to DM.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 09:18 AM
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I’d say “you can never trust a woman” period lol. I have experienced women having a strong enough attraction to me at first sight that they walk up to me in the middle of a store and start talking. And I’ve also experienced the attraction that isn’t instant but grows over time after getting to know each other. In both cases I’d say nothing stops that woman from also feeling intense attraction for other men she sees and meets. And tbh the women that have had that intense immediate attraction for …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 06:21 PM
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The definition of narcissism by the Mayo Clinic is “thinking very highly of oneself, needing admiration, believing others are inferior, and lacking empathy for others.” Now I know men like this. But I know way more women that have these traits. The only one that may be higher in men in my experience is lacking empathy. Which gender is more prone to thinking the reason it’s hard to find someone is because no one they meet is good enough? That’s thinking highly of yourself and believing others are…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 06:42 PM
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Women are just as, if not more, narcissistic. But it’s just seen as women being women. This is why men that show narcissistic traits are often said to be “sassy” by women. Because they’re acting in ways that are seen as normal for a woman but not for a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 06:09 PM

Here's the thing: this only really works if the guy sees you as a catch and someone that's actually rare or special. But if an average woman goes after a guy who could theoretically do "better" than her this won't work. This is why women that go for the top, most attractive men feel the pressure to have sex. Because they know he can easily get sex and everything else from another woman who's probably more attractive. He has to see the work he has to put in for you as worth the effort. That's why…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 05:01 PM
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I think this is only true if a woman specifically goes after a below average guy. For the most part I think most women think if you’re attractive enough to her then you’re attractive to other women too. Every woman I’ve been with thinks I’m some type of ladies man because of how I make them feel. If you made them feel “butterflies” at one time they assume you can do the same with other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 07:10 PM
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It depends on your definition of “peak.” Is it purely physical? Or is it when you’re the most attractive holistically to the people you’re trying to attract? Part of what makes men attractive to women is experience and intelligence. These are things that can increase with age. The saying “youth is wasted on the young” I’d say was largely made up in reference to men. That’s why younger women are often more attracted to older guys than the guys their own age. Conversely, a woman’s experience isn’t…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 01:02 PM
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I actually saw a psychologist on YouTube say that same thing. That women have sex because they subconsciously want a man to “come back” to them once he leaves. And that’s why women will often stop having sex when a man fully commits. He’s not leaving. Needless to say, women were saying he was a “toxic misogynist.”
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 04:15 PM
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I’ve been with women who did have that view and women who said they didn’t have that view. I’d say they all feel, whether consciously or subconsciously, that them having sex with a man should make him give them what they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 01:58 PM
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The reality is women don’t realize when they say they were used for sex they’re basically saying they use sex as leverage to get men to do what they want. When he doesn’t do what they want they feel they were “used.” But no woman wants to actually admit this is what’s happening
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 01:55 PM
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If a woman lies to a man to go on dates and spend his money with no intention of sleeping with him, what’s wrong with a man lying to a woman to get her to sleep with him? And if women enjoy sex, why isn’t the sex all that a woman wants out of the interaction? Or do women hand out sex as a sort of payment for men they want to be in a relationship with???
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 01:53 PM
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It’s not really like you actually need to get anything. It’s moreso that you realize “damn she always seems to need my help with something, but when I need help with something it’s going to be another guy that can help me.”
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 05:47 PM
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I don’t actually think they’re really oblivious to it. But admitting they know what’s going on would mean they’re aware that they’re “taking his kindness for weakness.”
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 04:20 PM
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Some were controlling. But most of the time it was people realizing there was no need for opposite sex friends when you’re in a relationship. The reason women fight to have male friends but you don’t see men really fighting to have female friends is because male-female friendships usually are one sided and benefit the woman more. If a guy gets into a relationship he’s not really pressed to keep female friends because he has his girl. But women fight to hold onto male friends because those male f…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 01:15 PM
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Actually it’s not. It’s become normalized in this day and age where people have to put up with boundaries being crossed just to be in a relationship or they’ll be called insecure. But back in previous generations like my parents time, you didn’t see married men and women having friends of the opposite sex unless they were their husband or wife’s friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 12:03 PM
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I keep telling people male-female friendships are usually one sided and favor the female. The guy ends up doing what a boyfriend or husband would do but don’t get any of the boyfriend or husband benefits. That’s why it’s usually single women that want to have all these male “friends.”
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 11:58 AM
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Are you in a relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 04:26 PM
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That’s only because men “settle” far more than women do. All the same flaws you named in men exist in women too. But those women will still be able to find a man willing to be with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 11:09 PM
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It’s like when people tell guys they need to be confident to be successful with women, but don’t seem to understand that you really only become confident with women from having success with women
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 02:35 PM
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If you live long enough one thing you’ll learn is that people often say and think things about themselves which make them look good or feel good. But in reality they often respond differently. For this particular example, women may not consciously favor any of the things OP talked about. But they respond to them. Men are the same. Men will say we just want a nice woman and her physique and looks aren’t that important. But in the moment we’re usually naturally attracted to the “hourglass” figure.…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/25 02:28 PM
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They at least found you attractive enough that they chose you over some other guys. Whereas some of the men a woman hooks up with don’t even find them attractive and they’re only hooking up with her because she’s available.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 05:11 PM
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I don’t see where OP said men are identifying as redpill. They just said men are “waking up to reality.”
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 09:50 PM
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It’s only niche in the sense that most men won’t identify with being “redpill,” or even know the word. But if they’re experienced with life, and you ask them their thoughts and opinions on certain things, their answers will often align with what’s called “redpill philosophy.”
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 03:16 PM

You don’t have to either if you get with the right guy. If the guy you want demands you do all that that’s on you and your preferences in men
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 03:37 PM

The woman is likely putting in more effort Because you say so? Every individual case is different. What type of “effort” does it take to get dressed and go on a date?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 02:45 PM

Bro, the women in here are definitely a minuscule minority and the things they say are in no way indicative of the vast majority of Western women. The reality is most western women are feminists/progressive, but still expect men that want to date them to pay. I’ve even seen it with women that aren’t dating a guy. If they’re out with a man/men they just like it when the men handle anything. This is why I say feminism isn’t really a real thing and it’s mostly talk. Because the most “raging feminis…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 10:44 AM

In my experience, women that are genuinely interested and want to spend time with a man don’t mind spending their money.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 10:20 AM

What would you think of a man saying his exes were so feminine and sexy that he had no problem wholeheartedly protecting and providing for them, but you don’t illicit that response from him, so you have to help pay bills and be treated like a glorified roommate?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 04:03 PM
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Is it only men that aren’t interesting, or does this go for women too? Because if all these things you listed are what make someone interesting then I’d say women aren’t interesting either. I know people that haven’t read a book in their life but they don’t struggle with dating. And I know people who have read tons of books but they struggle with dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 03:35 PM
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Even when a woman genuinely loves a man it’s often because of the things he’s done for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 10:21 AM
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Not true at all. Even average/below average women have guys trying to get their attention. Some are smart enough to know most of those guys just want easy sex. But some actually do believe those guys actually want them relationship-wise. So they may pass on the average guy who genuinely is into them because a more attractive man has convinced them that he genuinely wants them too.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 10:19 AM
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Because if you aren’t the “top guy” at those events it’s a waste of time. If you aren’t the tallest, fittest, most attractive guy there you’ll either be ignored, or the guy a woman talks to while she waits for her chance to talk to the tallest, fittest, most attractive guy. Giving guys the blue pilled advice that they can go to these events and meet women that will want to date them based on their charming personality is a lie lmao. Men know now just how superficial women will be. Especially in …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 12:44 PM
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Welcome to how men that are under 6ft and not “Chad’s” feel lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 01:47 PM
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To everyone except the man they’re actually involved with
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 11:58 PM
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Women. Relationships for men consist of constantly monitoring your wife/girlfriend’s mood and emotional state, and moving according to that. While you’ll see women totally oblivious to when their man isn’t happy. They don’t even know what he likes enough to know what to buy him for Christmas.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 11:35 PM
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I’d say the men on here are actually the average guy who isn’t at bars or on dating apps. Which is the majority. The minority are the ones you’ll meet when you’re out socializing. Like I said, average/overweight women still have men telling them they desire and want to be with them. That disproves your idea that those women can’t get a man
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 12:17 AM
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even your overweight minimum wage making basement dwelling men will not get into relationships with overweight women This is just not true. Most men are so starved for affection they’ll accept any woman. There’s a reason the average/overweight woman still thinks she’s beautiful. It’s because she still has men making her feel she’s desirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 11:55 PM
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I don’t think people who like relationships necessarily get snapped up quickly after one ends. If all the people out here are avoidant the relationship minded people are more likely to be single if they don’t actively put themselves out there a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 11:52 PM
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This is what I wanted to say. I can recognize people’s emotional state just from being around them, without words even being spoken. But that doesn’t mean I feel some responsibility to help them. I think women think if men don’t help in that way that they’re oblivious, and that’s not the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 10:28 PM
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If that’s all emotional intelligence is I’d say most men have it almost at the same level as women. The difference is men don’t feel the need to actually do something when someone isn’t doing well emotionally. For example, if I’m working with a group of guys I can tell when one of my coworkers isn’t “right” emotionally. But I’m not going to think “hey we should throw a party to help Billy feel better.” Billy needs to figure out what he needs to do to help himself feel better.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 10:22 PM
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You don’t understand because you’re not a man. You can’t fathom knowingly choosing to be with someone who’s “worse” in bed because for women the quality of sex is more important than the act itself. But for men that’s not the case. Men don’t care how “good” at sex a woman is if the way she got “good” was doing it countless times with other guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 01:13 PM
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They might not necessarily be “after” that type of guy, but if he fell into her lap let’s not act like she wouldn’t be extremely pleased.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 09:11 PM
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When I say listen to the stories I’m talking about REAL LIFE stories that women have told me about their exes and men they’ve dated. I’m not really talking about what men online say at all. I’m talking about women I’ve dated or been friends or associated with and our conversations about our dating lives. With most women, the thought always crosses my mind that they knowingly dated guys that were obviously problematic. For example, one girl who’s ex husband cheated on her and gave her an sti, sai…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 12:35 AM
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You don’t have to actually sleep with women or even necessarily talk in depth with them to observe what’s going on. You can just people watch. Watch the type of people they date. Listen to the stories about how they met and started dating someone. What you’ll come to find is a lot of women just like guys who are “players.” Guys that have a reputation for being wanted by other women. That’s going to inevitably lead to women sleeping with guys that are sleeping with multiple other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 10:45 PM
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It’s gaslighting. Even my own cousin met a guy out at a casino who has two kids by two other women who he’s not with. Now she’s pregnant. As far as I know she hasn’t contracted any std from him but it just goes to show women knowingly hook up with guys that have more of a chance of giving them an std. Women aren’t attracted to chastity in men. You’d almost have to say they’re attracted to the opposite. And I’d say the cognitive dissonance comes from society still not wanting to acknowledge just …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 10:38 PM
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Nah actually I talk to women more than men tbh. And we’re talking about who women choose to sleep with. Some of these guys may not talk to women, but I do.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 10:29 PM
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Society is feminist and blue pilled. It’s seen as “woman bashing” to actually call women out for problematic behavior. So of course these studies aren’t going to be done. The author Shahrazad Ali wrote a book called The Black Man’s Guide to Understanding the Black Man. In it she basically backs up many of the claims “red pillars” make. She also says that behavioral studies on the Black man are numerous. But there’s never really been behavioral studies done on the Black woman because society is i…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 09:44 PM
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All you have to do is talk to people and experience life to see what’s going on. But you’re blue pill so you’d rather just listen to what people say instead of actually observing what they do. Studies may not have actually been done on this because no one wants to actually say what’s going on. People still want to uphold the sugar and spice and everything nice trope. Just like you’re doing now
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 09:35 PM
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This is like arguing that the sky is blue with a child. I have female friends and they tell me the stories of how they hooked up with this or that guy. It’s never “oh I hooked up with him because he’d only be with me and flaunt have any other women.” It’s always “ I hooked up with him because he’s hot. And I know he’s probably got other women but when he’s with me it’s all about me and that’s all I care about.”
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 09:31 PM
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Yes there are women that are mislead and think they’re in monogamous relationships but end up with guys that aren’t monogamous. But I’d say a large amount KNOW the guys they’re dealing with are the type to be sleeping around. But they don’t care because they’re so attracted to him and the raw sex feels better.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 09:26 PM
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Women are contracting STDs more because they’re sleeping with the men that are having the most sex other women/men, period. Every woman could go get some virgin guy who’s never even had sex, thus guaranteeing their safety. But no. They’ll choose the same guy that’s been with tons of other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 09:23 PM
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Dude, it’s okay to acknowledge that women aren’t perfect. It’s like you couldn’t wait to deny what was said even though you have no real argument or evidence to refute it lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 09:20 PM
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I remember when the “me too” thing first ramped up the actor Idris Elba said something about men shouldn’t be worried because if they’re not saying or doing anything wrong they won’t get accused. It smacked of privilege. Because of course Idris Elba, a guy who women all over the world fantasize about, can get away with doing things that the average man would be called a creep for doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 06:02 PM
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Well I’ll just say people have a tendency to publicly say that their current condition is exactly what they want, even though it’s actually not. And I’m not saying women should be pressured into anything. I’m just saying maybe they should realize earlier that the single independent life isn’t what they actually want. And move accordingly based on that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 09:56 PM
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I know a lot of unmarried women in that age bracket. And some that are childless too. I’m pretty much every case, no matter how feminist and “girl power” they were when they were younger, they eventually get to the point where they want that regular relationship where they have a man they can depend on. I met a woman who’s 35 now in 2020. At the time she was like “relationships? Relationships are a joke. I’d rather be single and do what I want.” Fast forward to 2024 and she basically stopped tal…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 09:47 PM
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Have you considered that “society” “pressures women to marry” because they know that’s ultimately the best life for them and they don’t want them to be 50 still thinking Prince Charming is coming along to fulfill all their dreams when none of the other men they’ve been with have done that?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 09:34 PM
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If you feel some guys are attacking you it’s because men know that the most attractive guys with the most options are going to be more likely to be anti relationship, while the less attractive guys with less options will be more likely to want commitment. So if you say all the guys you come across are anti relationship it must mean you’re strictly focused on the most attractive guys and not the guys who would actually want more than just a sexual relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 03:22 AM
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Men have been saying marriage and relationships benefit women more and it would be in women’s best interest to secure a man that actually wants her instead of playing the field. But women said “no, I want the freedom to have flings until I’m ready to settle down.” So men said “ok you want to have sex without commitment or us having to do any of the emotional or physical labor of being in a marriage/relationship? Cool.” Women have made sex so cheap that men feel getting into a relationship just t…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 03:18 AM
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It’s not just that women are socially conditioned to want marriage more. Marriage actually benefits women more.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 03:35 AM
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If “social skills” is just some superficial thing then shouldn’t it be easy for everyone who wants to be seen as “charming” to have these skills?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 06:28 PM
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Nah guys will go for less attractive women all the time. Because they don’t have any chance with more attractive women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 09:35 AM
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Personally I care way more about the visible dynamic and vibe that a woman who’s with me gives off. What I mean is I care more about people looking at the demeanor of the woman I’m with and saying “damn she looks really happy to be with him.” But I’ll see guys with this beautiful woman but she’ll be looking like she’s not even enjoying being around him. When I see that I wanna tell those guys “dude, get rid of her and get a girl who actually likes you.”
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 11:40 PM
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It feels awesome to know you’re with the girl other guys are checking out. But not enough to stay with that girl if you’re not really compatible. There’s a reason there’s talk on the internet about men marrying the “six or seven” but just having flings with the “nines and tens.” Men care way more about the day to day dynamic than having some pretty, but insufferable, woman on our arm.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 11:33 PM
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Some guys do, other guys don’t. I remember I actually cursed one of my boys out when I said I could “do better” than the girl I was with at the time. Most men really just want someone who accepts and likes them. I’d say certain guys and a lot of women care about the person they’re dating being seen as super attractive to other people. Like someone else said, if I find her attractive it’s almost certain that some other guys do too. And the funny thing is a woman will find a guy attractive, but le…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 11:25 PM
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In my experience it usually goes like meet a woman>have chemistry>have sex>go on dates/become friends>relationship Sex often happens right after meeting and chemistry. And if the chemistry is strong and they go on a date first it’s usually just a formality. Sex is the goal and whatever comes after that is just a bonus.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 12:31 AM
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That just doesn’t make sense. Every Arab man isn’t wealthy but they still marry and have kids. That means that every Arab woman isn’t demanding everything you’re saying. The difference in American women is all of them, even the ones from average economic brackets, with average looks, expect and are encouraged to only want high earning/wealthy men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 02:50 PM
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No. But she is if she thinks she’s “more masculine” than a man or can dominate one because she makes more money.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 10:44 AM
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You think a guy working construction or a manual labor job thinks he’s “feminized” just because a nurse might make more money than him? Men see themselves as “masculine or feminine” based on what they actually do and their personality, not based on how much money they make.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 10:31 AM
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The experiences with men their own age are just as bad or worse. Especially when you consider most women date close to their age. So all the bad experiences with men they talk about are going to mostly be with guys their own age.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 09:50 PM
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I mean….everyday I see one upset and shocked about some guy who everyone else could see was just trying to get what he could get from her….
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 09:45 PM
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I think people put way too much emphasis on age. A person is what their experiences are. There are people more grounded and mature in their 20s than some 30+ year olds. It’s presumptuous to think two people aren’t compatible just because of an age difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 09:43 PM
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They don’t care. They rather blow money on a young hot chick who at least acts like she likes them instead of spending it on an older less attractive woman who’s openly contemptuous
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 09:38 PM
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Shhh don’t tell them that men have learned that acting like they want something serious is a way to get a woman to sleep with you
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 09:36 PM
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Younger women are definitely harder to get. As someone who dated older women when I was younger and younger and older women now that I’m older, I can say for a fact older women were “easier” to get. Just being a younger guy that was interested in an older woman was enough for most older women. With younger women you have to actually impress them. So the older guys that can even attract younger women are usually the guys that older women would actually be attracted to also.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 09:31 PM
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Correlation doesn’t equal causation. The main thing a guy needs to “get women” is looks and a charming, flirtatious personality. You think if a woman meets a guy who has an attractive face, nice body, and is flirtatious and makes her feel sexy she’s going to say “no” just because he doesn’t have a bunch of friends? I’ve been that guy. I don’t have male friends but I don’t really struggle with women. And I do have female friends. Some of them I actually used to date. Telling guys they’re struggli…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 10:06 PM
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They may not have slept with him but they’re definitely attracted to him lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 07:58 PM
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Better relationship options….because guys want to sleep with them
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 03:10 AM
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Funny thing about this is I saw a video on Twitter where a woman was saying how crazy it is that men expect sex just for buying a steak dinner or some pasta. One woman said “yeah how crazy would it be if women demanded sex for buying a man a pair of Jordan’s?” All I could think was how most guys would be perfectly fine with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 02:38 AM
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You’re seriously overestimating how many women are into casual sex I agree. Which is why I say if a woman will hookup with a guy he’s more than likely someone she’d be in a relationship with. But you have women in here that say they hookup with guys they’d never actually be with all the time lol. It’s like they want to prove that they can move just like men
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 06:50 PM

When I see this I always wonder why no one ever says that maybe men aren’t supposed to be “pretty” like women. If you said the average man is stronger than the average woman everyone would say “duh that’s natural women aren’t supposed to be strong.” I see pressure being applied to men to be as “attractive” as women, but for what? So you can have a bunch of “pretty,” but useless, guys? We should be telling men to be capable, strong, competent, knowledgeable. But we seem to focus a lot on physical…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 05:07 PM

It doesn’t have to be a single man. Go to a construction site and cook for all the guys working there. Women actually used to do this type of stuff. Coincidentally (or maybe not) men were more chivalrous during those times too.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 06:38 PM

I was actually half way joking. But look how everyone thinks the simple act of cooking a meal for someone you don’t know is absurd, but don’t think it’s absurd to ask someone to risk life and limb for someone they don’t know
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 06:32 PM

It’s crazy that you see that as “unhinged.” Do you see a man risking his safety for a woman he doesn’t know as “unhinged” too?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 06:27 PM

Cook meals for a single man. It doesn’t even involve any danger or bodily harm.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 01:28 PM
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Yeah I just think the nature of modern “friendship” doesn’t necessarily mean a person would be bad at dating. They’re like two entirely different skills. I know tons of guys that have a bunch of “buddies” but they struggle when it comes to women because they like spending their time with their boys doing “guy stuff” like watching football, working on their cars, drinking beer, etc. Whereas someone like me, I may not have a lot of male friends but I don’t struggle with dating because some of the …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 05:52 PM
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Not necessarily true. I find that people that don’t have a lot of friends usually aren’t super into partying, drinking, etc. The things they like to do might be solitary things in general. They probably struggle to open up and share everything about themselves super quick. But if you interact with them one on one they’re not any “meaner” than people with lots of friends. They’ll often actually be nicer. Me for example. I don’t have a bunch of friends. But people have told me I’m “charming, inter…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 05:05 PM
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they’d have sorted it out and been more successful than the males in the long run They wouldn’t have survived long enough in the wild to see what “the long run” would’ve looked like
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 02:42 PM
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Every female friend I have and women I date, I have to listen to them “bitch and moan.” Sometimes I wonder if that’s the only reason they want my friendship.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 05:45 AM
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Guys need to understand how big status is. Like you’ll see women say they’re not going on a coffee date with a guy. I ask guys do they think she’d turn down a coffee date with Drake, Usher, Chris Brown, etc if they asked her? The answer is no. That should tell guys what a woman will and won’t do mainly depends on the guy and how she feels about him. All their “standards” change moment to moment depending on the man.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 07:35 PM
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Interesting I’m currently listening to a conversation between psychologist Dr Orion Taraban (Psyc-hacks) and divorce attorney James Sexton. At one point they say women choose high status men for two reasons: the material benefits of being with someone with money is one. The other is that women feel that they’re seen as powerful when a powerful man chooses them. This is why, no matter how depraved or misogynistic a man may be, if he’s famous and powerful women will line up to be with him and say …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 07:00 PM
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It's always been funny to me how women on here will say guys on here are just "weirdo" guys and aren't like normal guys. I always want to say "ma'am the fact you're even on reddit makes you a weirdo compared to other women." Compared to the average man or woman, men and women in this sub are equally as "weird."
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 09:59 AM
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women don’t want to financially support someone else’s kids either And the reason single fathers are “more attractive” is he normally won’t expect a woman they’re dating to do anything for his kids. While single mothers expect men they’re dating date to act like a stepfather to their kids almost from the day they start seeing each other
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 10:08 PM
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Correction: having sex with men that don't really care about her is what makes a woman "worse off." A woman doesn't even have to be attractive for a man to sleep with her. Just willing. But for a woman to even want to sleep with a man she has to at least find him attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 12:14 AM
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Being in a relationship nowadays isn't really a flex imo. Most of the people I know in relationships are putting up with a lot of BS. Disrespect, cheating, flirting, etc. Oftentimes the difference between the person in a relationship and the one that isn't is that the person not in a relationship wasn't willing to put up with the BS.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 12:12 AM
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Do you see men simp after celebrity women like women simp for celebrity men? No you don’t
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 01:24 PM
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Men are naturally problem solvers. A woman saying there’s no “chemistry” is basically seen by that man as just another problem that needs to be solved.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 11:47 PM
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Shiiiiddd women will sleep with a man that lives with his parents, grandparents, wife, or whoever else if he makes her tingle where it matters. The more he makes her tingle the less he actually has to have. The dudes that have to have it all together are the ones she’s not that attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 05:20 PM
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Yup. The times I’ve gone in “monk mode” and just focus on myself, meditation, reading, etc, and not pursuing women, I always end up meeting women who want to date me. Crazy how it works. But sometimes it can be awkward because some women will look at a guy differently if you tell them you’re not dating or seeing anyone. Even if they’re attracted it’s like they start to doubt whether they should be lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 09:06 PM
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Also I think genuinely single guys are more likely to be practicing celibacy, semen retention, etc. So they’re not even actively trying to meet and talk to women. But the married and in relationship guys want more of what they’re getting at home already.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 08:53 PM
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Trust me. In the long run it’ll work better for you, and they’ll respect you more as a man, if you’re not willing to be their “side dude.”
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 08:50 PM
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Yeah I’ve had women I’ve talked to for weeks then find out they’re in a relationship. I ask them when they were planning to tell me and their response is basically “it’s none of your business.” It’s like they look at you like you’re playing the “game” wrong if you’re not trying to help them fool around on their boyfriend/husband. Like “just shut up and help me cheat” lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 08:46 PM
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I wouldn’t say she’s less attractive. But if I know a woman has a boyfriend or husband I’m not pursuing her. Not because she’s not attractive, but because it’s not worth getting into conflict with the other dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 08:33 PM
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Lmao because I was just talking to a female friend of mine today and she said all the guys in her inbox trying to get her attention or who try to “holler” when she’s out, end up either being married or in a relationship/situationship. She said it’s rare that a genuinely single guy ever approaches her
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 08:29 PM

Because misandry is not only allowed, it’s encouraged. There are nationally televised shows like the View, where the topic of how “men are trash” is cheerfully talked about. You’d never see a network television studio put out a show where men sit and talk about how “women are trash.”
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 04:58 PM
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When you’re smart you get up early in the morning to do yard work. Before it gets super hot. I could pay someone to do mine but I never liked paying someone else to do something I’m perfectly capable of doing. As a man it doesn’t feel right. The same reason I learned how to do certain repairs on my car. But if you have “better things to do” than household tasks do you pay someone to wash dishes and your clothes too?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 02:54 PM
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Lmao weak asses. Where I live it was 100° yesterday. I was actually outside working in it. But if women are with guys that are afraid of a little heat I understand why there’s this “who does more” Olympics.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 02:31 PM
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The typical woman does not mow her yard. That's why it stands out when you actually see it. I think women in here don't understand that them just being on reddit makes them not the typical woman. They're probably not typical in other ways too. The typical woman isn't putting up fence posts or mowing her grass. She's paying some guy to do it. Women in here want to act like they're like most women and they're not.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 10:23 AM
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The same way women today overblow how difficult washing clothes and dishes are. Everyone wants everyone else to think the life they have to live daily is sooooooo difficult
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 10:15 AM
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As a formerly married man I can speak from experience and say when women are attracted to you you don’t have to lie about being married. They’re more concerned about whether or not it’ll get messy if they start dealing with you. Sometimes it seems like it’s almost a thrill or validating to them to know they’re desired by this other woman’s husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 01:43 AM
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I’ve seen dudes say they actually prefer single mothers because they’ve shown that they can be “nurturing.”
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 08:37 PM
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Because despite what women say in here, in reality marriage benefits women more than men. I was married for ten years and can say without a doubt that my life is easier now than when I was married. I only have to worry about myself, save money, don’t have to worry about the person in with having a bad day and needing me to help them feel better, etc. But months after we split up my ex wife was dating how she freely she ruined her life when we split up. Now she’s out here having to do everything …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 01:18 PM
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how would you as a man know what women are like to each other? Because women tell the men they date, marry, and are friends with how much they hate other women and don’t trust other women every day
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 01:13 PM
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they’re also most nurses There’s recently been a lot of talk about how bad nurses are today and how many were the “mean girl” in school and just became nurses for the money. My sister is a nurse and says most nurses today just get into it because tv shows like Greys Anatomy make it look glamorous. And because of the money.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 01:10 PM
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The single and childless women I’ve known are almost always okay with being single, but usually not happy about being childless. Especially if they’ve had miscarriages before. They may tell everyone “I’m single and childfree and can come and go as I please.” But they almost always wish they were a mother.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 06:59 PM
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There's a funny meme that's being shared for years about women being attracted to words and men being attracted to appearance, and that's why men lie and women wear makeup
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 02:49 PM
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I don’t understand why women can’t just admit it’s easier for them dating Because that goes against the feminist driven narrative that everything in life is harder for women
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 10:33 AM
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I think women will say one thing for the benefit of the online conversation, but move differently irl. They’ll say “I don’t neeeeeedddd a protector provider.” But look at their history and the men they cooperated with and actually wanted to be with happened to be what you’d call a “protector provider.”
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 07:47 PM
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I’d change “very conservative women” to all women tbh. It’s just a fact that women feel there’s something wrong and inferior about men that aren’t actively involved with women in some capacity.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 07:35 PM
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They shame the protector provider guy and say life is about more than that. But they also shame the recluse who just wants to live alone and play video games. To me it just seems people don’t like when men choose for themselves what’s valuable and worth their time.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 11:05 AM
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And now people are telling those guys they’re not “real men” because they don’t have women
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 09:16 AM
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They’ve been conditioned into thinking that their masculinity depends on providing for some woman. So if men need to get out of attaching their worth to providing for a woman why is it that when a man says he doesn’t want to be a “protector/provider” he’s told he’s selfish and not a “real man?”
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 09:13 AM
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He’s got no swag, charisma, game, personality, whatever you wanna call it. He probably doesn’t stand out in any significant way. So women will see him as “boring.” You can be everything on paper, but when it comes to dating and relationships it’s about how you make someone feel when they’re around you. I’d say it’s even more crucial for men to have the “personality” that makes women feel a certain way. Because a lot of women’s sexual attraction is based on the mental and not necessarily what the…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 09:58 PM
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The only women who seemed to have an issue with a woman I was dating being 10+ years younger were women my own age who I found out may have wanted to date me, and my female cousins that are my age. They didn't really have an issue with it but kept asking about how I met and started dating these younger women. The funny thing is I see younger female family members posting that they're really liking older men and other women cheer them on. It's funny
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 10:27 PM
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Lmao no you can't. At least not with the majority of RP men. The ones that are real obvious are usually autistic and super socially awkward. Or angry about a recent break up or rejection. Guys that have been RP for a while understand that to get along with most women today you have to pretty much act bluepill. For example I'd say I'm RP. But women I know and date complain to me about "those redpill guys" that need to be more like me lol
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 10:05 PM

I know it's hard to believe because it's complex. But most women can see a guy and recognize he's aesthetically pleasing but that won't make them feel lust for him. I'd say we as men do feel strong lust for women based purely on how she looks. What makes women feel lust are the thoughts that go thru their head when they get to talk to him and know him. That's what makes her initially want to have sex with him. And then once they have sex the thing that makes her really wild for him is if he's ac…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 09:33 PM
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Men will have sex with a WIDE variety of women. But they only want to be in relationships with a certain type if they could have their way. The problem is they often can't attract that type of woman. So they'll settle for a relationship with one of the wide variety of women they'll sleep with.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 11:26 PM
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But that’s usually how it plays out. They fool around with the same type of guy all the other women are fooling around with. Then as they reach 30 they realize the guy they saw as boring before is actually more compatible with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 01:59 AM
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It’s not a movement. It’s satire to make people realize how ridiculous women sound when they’re out here dating. Everyone can see how ridiculous it sounds coming from a man. Well why don’t they see how ridiculous it sounds coming from a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 09:51 PM

Even in male - female friendships if the woman is single the guy is usually coming to her aid to do things a boyfriend would do. And to your point, I can’t necessarily say I’ve seen single women benefit from their married friends husbands business contacts , but I’ve literally heard single women ask their married friend if she can get her husband to come help with some type of labor she needs done. Like “hey Kat, girl can you get John to come by my house and check out the leaking pipe under the …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 08:13 PM
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Talking about the game is different from talking about the personal lives of celebrities (who they’re screwing, who cheated on who, etc)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 04:19 PM

I was talking to someone about this topic and I came to the conclusion that I really think women don’t care if they’re not their man’s “best.” And that’s because men don’t necessarily treat the woman who’s their “best” better than other women. But when it comes to women, in my experience they actually treat the men/man that’s their “best” better. He’s the guy they get up and fix a sandwich for afterwards. He’s the guy who they give money to. He’s the guy they fight other women over. He’s the guy…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 06:06 PM
1

Good standard to have. Women like this have caused many men to lose their lives or freedom because they go around starting shit with people, then run to their man to “defend their honor” smh
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 12:03 AM
1

What’s bluepill about what I said?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 07:39 PM
1

But you didn’t have to go and fix the fence Yeah I know that. But if someone I care about needs help I’ll help. Isn’t that what a friend does? And I’ll say the things you did for your male friend aren’t the norm. When guys say their female friends don’t really do anything for them compared to what they do that’s the norm. And it’s not keeping score. It’s just noticing things.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 08:50 PM
1

I think men and women both benefit from opposite sex friendships emotionally. But as far as physical labor benefits, women benefit more. Like my female friend had a broken slat on her fence. She called the maintenance people for her apartment but they said it would be a day or two before they could fix it. So instead I came and fixed it. Because men are seen as the ones looked to when it comes to physical labor, women with male friends benefit from that. And tbh, because men are more stoic, it c…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 07:00 PM
1

I think they don’t actually need to see you with other women to know other women find you attractive. All the women I’ve been with never became attracted to me because they saw me with other women. They saw me, by myself, and were attracted. But like I said, they could probably tell other women found me attractive too. If you’re attractive you’re attractive. But the real killer combo is being attractive AND being seen with other women or fitting into a social group.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 06:48 PM
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Male friends are basically free labor for women. For example, a lady told me she had a lizard in her house and she went thru all her male friends until she found one that was nearby. He came over to her the lizard out of her house. Basically things that a husband or boyfriend would do for her, she gets male friends to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 03:19 PM
2

Ummmm men that get more dates and attention from women think they’re more attractive, and men that don’t think they’re less desirable? Isn’t this actually true though? Because women have more options and can pick and choose who to give their time and attention to, this would mean that the man that does get her time and attention is actually attractive to her. This is why it’s said men are less delusional about where they stand. Because if they’re attractive they’ll get some attention from women.…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 12:35 PM
2

Because men will sleep with a female “friend” if she wants him to. Even if he’s not really attracted to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 03:19 PM
90

I’ve literally seen women that are bisexual say dating men is easier and they understand men’s frustration with women
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 03:44 PM
1

All my best relationships were with women that were clear about their interest and some would say did more “pursuing.” My ex wife was one of my coworker’s cousin and she got my coworker to introduce us. She told me later that she was sexually attracted and hoped I was cool enough and interested in more. We ended up married for ten years. Another ex was my sisters coworker who’s number I got and talked to for a month until she said she wanted to meet for lunch and hang out. We were together for t…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 12:43 AM
0

You’re talking about men telling women they should have kids. I said men with kids don’t try to shame childfree women into dating them to help with their kids like some single mothers do men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 10:37 PM
1

I never see single fathers trying to shame women and say they’re “weak” if they don’t want to date men with kids
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 10:08 PM
1

You think men that work jobs that don’t require a degree are “lazy?” Lmao so guys who climb ladders, swing hammers, and walk miles every day are “lazy,” but guys who get a degree and sit in some office all day are “hard working?”
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 06:30 AM
1

its disgusting to want a man my educational level so we can relate? So you relate with everyone you work with? Ya know since you’re on the same “educational level.” Being “educated” in the modern world doesn’t really mean someone is actually intelligent. You have people that are educated but have no passion for learning new things. And you have people that aren’t formally educated but their voracious readers and constantly learning new things.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 06:27 AM
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also, they assume any guy that complains about female standards for men are unattractive men and can’t get sex That’s because a lot of women’s ideal archetype is the “dumb jock.” He’s physically attractive but lets them do most of the talking and intellectual heavy lifting. He’s like a glorified manservant/escort. Which makes it ironic that women say men want a “bang maid.” For many women their ideal man is a male “bang maid” with an atm card. I tell women all the time that attracting women isn’…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 09:50 PM
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Sex isn’t something that women “give men.” Correct me if I’m wrong, but don’t women enjoy sex too?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 03:29 PM
3

I don’t know about being jealous. But the guys women want for sex are also the guys they want to be in a relationship with. So if you’re a guy that wants a relationship it’s best to be the guy she wants sex with.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 11:53 PM
1

That’s not the topic being questioned. The question is can a fat woman find a man to love her. The answer is yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 09:51 PM
1

Right. I just laughed at the Cheesecake Factory video. The whole thing really was about the fact she really wasn’t that into the guy. Because irl with any woman I ever dated, if they’re really into me and I tell them I want to take them somewhere, they pull out there phone and see what they’re going to order lol. I’ve never heard “oh I don’t eat there because it’s beneath me.”
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 08:06 PM
1

We live in a world where people think if they can find some random person online that agrees with some view they have on something it means they’re right. People like to follow and support those who agree with their worldview, and cancel anyone who’s against that worldview.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 07:35 PM
2

Yeah it’s like if we have a disagreement on something she’ll go on TikTok and find someone that agrees with her point of view and try to say that proves she’s right. One time we had a disagreement and she got me to ask my sister which side she was on in the matter and my sister agreed with her side. She said “See! Even your own sister agrees with me!” I told her that just means her and my sister were wrong lol
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 07:30 PM
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I have a female friend who constantly sends me TikTok clips when she has some point she’s trying to debate or prove. I just smh. One time I told her to stop sending me TikTok clips. Tell me what she read in an actual book. Needless to say she got mad
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 06:34 PM
1

It’s always funny how the chicks that should be glad any man wants to even be around them are the most entitled. When I show clips like this to actual real life women they just shake their heads and say women like this are crazy
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 06:31 PM
1

Washington DC?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 01:44 AM
5

I think you underestimate the number of men that want relationships and overestimate the quality of the women
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 01:43 AM
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If they’re a living breathing human being then they’re a “valid option.” If that woman thinks they’re not a valid option, but the actual valid options aren’t coming for her, then maybe she needs to ask herself why that is.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 01:42 AM
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They’re still technically single, but they know it’s not hard at all for them to find someone to take them out, sleep with them, or even agree to be in a relationship. Most women can get a guy or multiple guys to do the things for them one man in a relationship with them would do. So yeah they may be “happy.” That’s why I say women aren’t really “single” the way a lot of men are. It’s like the difference between fasting and actually starving.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 11:24 PM
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I’ve said it time and time again, but if you’re able to go on a dating app, to a bar, or in your contact list, and have someone you’re attracted to go out with you, hang out, or sleep with you within hours you’re not really “single.” Real “singleness” is when you’re alone and don’t really have anyone available to give you at least the feeling of dating someone. Go talk to the women that men reject and who don’t have any men even attempting to talk to them and see how “happy” they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 10:37 PM
3

Bookstores and libraries are awesome for meeting people. Some say clubs but everyone is there just for fun. Some say grocery stores but everyone eats. But in a bookstore or library you’re more likely to actually have things in common and a similar personality type as the other people in there. Especially if you’re checking out the same types of books.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 03:50 PM
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Y’all are missing the point. No one is saying it’s literally about the size. We’re saying the fact that “big dick energy” is the phrase used for the man a woman feels good about vs “small dick energy” being used for the man she doesn’t like says something about how everyone views dick size. It’s like how things that are called white have positive aspects attached to them while things called black have negative views attached to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 03:47 PM
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The majority of men weren’t in team sports in college and high school where they’d be around other men naked. They’ve mostly seen their own penis and that’s it. Sexually active women, on the other hand, have had the penises of men they’ve slept with in their hands inches from their faces, in their mouths, and in their vaginas and anuses. Not to mention the random dick pics dudes send them. As a heterosexual man I’ve seen way more vaginas than penises.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 03:04 AM
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Lmao men definitely have not seen more penises than a sexual active woman
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 01:06 AM
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I know it doesn’t refer to the actual size. But what came first, the chicken or the egg? Did men with small penises start out insecure or did the way people treated them on finding out they had a small penis make them insecure? Were men with big penises born confident? Or did their success with women because of said big penis make them confident with women?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 12:03 AM
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The woman I made cum the fastest was my ex who I had not seen for about a month because we broke up. One night she invited me over before she went out of town and she came in about 20 seconds when before it took at least 10-15 minutes. It was so fast I asked if she was faking it afterwards. She said “mfer you don’t know how much I missed you.” I feel a lot of it with women is mental and how she feels about that guy in that moment, and not necessarily about his size.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 11:14 PM
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I don’t see how men could be getting the wrong idea about penis size when they can go online every day and see women use “big dick energy” as a positive thing and literally talk about how they love men with a big dick. Men are just reading the room.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 11:08 PM
1

Doesn’t matter. I knew one woman that said the first time she sleeps with a guy has to always be at her place. She doesn’t feel comfortable anywhere else when it’s the first time
/r/seduction07/02/24 07:33 PM
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More gaslighting lol. Every guy I know that’s been with a lot of women never has a problem getting women to be with him in a relationship. Especially if he has a reputation for sleeping with a lot of attractive women. It’s like women line up to try to be the one to “make an honest man out of him.”
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 06:56 PM
4

Because people aren’t attracted to ideas and personality traits unless they come in a sexy package
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 01:45 PM
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Fuck boys are the guys women are attracted to, regardless of if they’re good in relationships or not. The thing that usually makes a woman hate a fuck boy is the fact that he didn’t get into a relationship with her like she wanted. That doesn’t change the fact that she was attracted to him and actually wanted to be with him. Women get a great feeling of validation when the guy that all the other women want actually commits to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 01:43 PM
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Sex isn't the main goal. But when two people are actually in love and feel affection and attraction to each other they naturally will want to be intimate with each other. If one person chooses to not do that the other person will begin to ask themselves "do they REALLY love me like they say they do? Are they REALLY even attracted?"
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 05:58 PM
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Every time you reject the person you're in a relationship with, regardless of why, you're killing your relationship. Every rejection is a slice in a death by a thousand cuts. They'll eventually get to the point that the love and affection is dead. That's when they either leave or cheat.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 05:54 PM
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First of all they're human and enjoy sex. Second of all, it's because when they meet men that they'd want to actually be in a relationship with they feel pressured to have sex with him in order to "get" him. When it turns out that he doesn't want to commit like she wants that's another "body." I've been said if men only had sex with women they actually want to commit to there wouldn't be this "high body count" conversation. But only having sex with the women they want to commit to seems like tor…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 05:49 PM
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All this. I'd say the vast majority of men would be extremely happy with just one woman. But somehow someway women always seem to get involved with the guys that want to play the field.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 05:37 PM
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porn is the only thing keeping guys from absolute bonkers or insane Not true at all. It's their weak mentality that has them going insane. There was a time when I was celibate for almost 3yrs. At the same time I stopped watching porn and masturbating. And it's also when I got into stoicism. Watching porn isn't even close to the same as being with an actual woman. At a certain point people have to learn that the mind controls the body, not vice versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 04:45 PM

Lmao so you just ignore what I said about facial expressions and body language. It’s not materialistic. It’s being observant of your surroundings. That includes everything about the people around you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 03:27 PM

Some of us are just more observant. One time I was out with a girl and just said something about how everyone wears Nike Air Force Ones. She said she never really noticed. As we went about our day around the city I pointed out just how many people were wearing AF1s and she was surprised it was so many. Some of us are just people watchers like that and observe everything. Some aren’t. I’m paying attention to everything from a persons facial expression to their body language to their shoes to thei…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 03:13 PM

Globally it might not be true. But in the US it is. All you have to do is open your eyes and look around when you’re out and about.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 02:46 PM

women who show too much individuality are often autistic or have mental health issues I agree. The last woman I dated who I’d say was actually different from most women would come across as autistic to me sometimes. And it manifested as her getting into arguments and having issues with people everywhere she went. But she’d say it was because people hated her or were “intimidated” by her because she was so brilliant.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 02:15 PM

The high end Androids like the Note and Galaxy S are the same price as an iPhone
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 02:12 PM

So based on that women would be more shallow and follow along with what other people do
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 02:09 PM

Men “go after” the women that are available
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 02:08 PM

it’s the second brand with the largest market share globally Then why is it that more women have iPhones than men? Shouldn’t it be equal? Or does one group follow trends more than the other?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 02:05 PM

They follow a script that tells them who they should be that’s been written at the women’s round table. This is why it’s so common to hear women describe the same man and lifestyle when they talk about what they want. It’s about appearing “successful” in the eyes of other women more than anything. And I know the women in here would disagree. But I’d say that the fact you’re even in a forum like this means you’re not the “average woman” that most men come across every day. You’re an outlier.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 01:56 PM
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women don't understand that there is a trade-off for that, and as a man you need to recognize what that is as to not fall down rabbit-holes that weaken you, or could make you weak. Being stoic may not be the perfect solution, but it's the best solution; and it's proven by the fact that women select these men, and don't select emotional men. This! To me this is the essence of redpill that has become forgotten because people focus on the guys who want to be stoic as a tactic to get women. The esse…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/24 03:38 PM
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Personally I’ve never really met a “childfree” woman who was really completely happy in their 30s-40s. Even if they don’t necessarily want kids or marriage, you can still see that they wish they were able to experience childbirth and being a mother. I’ve dated a few and sometimes want to tell them that their lifestyle and personality wouldn’t even translate well to motherhood. But it’s like they still would want to experience it out of some sense that it makes them a “real woman.”
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 11:19 AM
4

Which man doesn’t have a celebrity crush? We don’t have celebrity crushes like women. We might have a female celebrity we’d want to sleep with, but that’s it. While women will have a whole fantasy about being married to and having kids by their male celebrity crush.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 06:21 PM
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I’d say it’s moreso because the regular woman and the celebrity woman aren’t really that different in the ways that matter to men
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 06:19 PM
2

So they’re so self centered they’d rather subject their kid to a fatherless life instead of actually working with a man as a family the way it’s supposed to be
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 07:32 PM
1

Maybe. But personally I’d say women shouldn’t even try to date guys that watch porn
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 07:01 PM
3

I think most men were the same then as they are now: they accept what they can get. The “top” men and women have always been picky. The difference now is average women are also more picky while average men aren’t because they can’t afford to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 05:39 PM
3

I don’t really have male friends. But I have women that I hang out with and sleep with. I don’t feel “lonely” at all. But I know if all I had was a bunch of guys to hang out with I’d be depressed. The “lonely men” really are suffering from not feeling desired by women. But I’d never say women should just hang out with guys they don’t like. I say guys should figure out how to make themselves more attractive to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 04:16 PM
4

Sometimes“erectile dysfunction” is really just happening because the woman doesn’t turn him on enough. There have been women I’m so attracted to that I can cum and keep going. Then there are other women where I cum once and I’m ready to go to sleep because she doesn’t turn me on like that. I think there’s even research that shows a man will get more aroused and quicker after orgasming if it’s with a different woman and not the one that already made him cum. But I’ve seen women say if a man can’t…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 04:06 PM
5

The male loneliness epidemic is a misnomer that implies males having male friends will fix the problem. It doesn’t. Heterosexual males are craving female interaction, not male. But girls and women are like “I don’t want to associate with weird, ugly, lame dudes.”
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 04:01 PM
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I think the girls/women back then were less superficial. If you put the kid who gets rejected out there with all the other kids he’s just going to be rejected again. Girls are still going to pick the athlete popular kid over the quiet loner.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 03:58 PM
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“Marry?” What’s that? These women today believe in having kids on their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 03:55 PM
1

I agree that kids today need to be outside more, but I really can’t see it happening. Parents are too paranoid and have disdain for other parents. So they’re not going to let their kids play with those other parents kids too much. Which is silly because they’re all together at school anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 03:54 PM
0

Why not? Does it sound fantastical to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 02:20 AM
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When you’re early 20s you do. But when you’re 40 “older” is 60. That’s what I did. When I was early 20s I with a 35yr old. But the older I got I’d date closer to my own age instead of way older than me. Then when I got to 40 I started dating a 20 something. Now I’m with a woman the same age as me. But I’d never date a woman older than me now.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 01:55 AM
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with women you don’t know well, not women you are committed to, right? With women I’m committed to I feel a sense of obligation, or duty, to take care of them and make sure they’re ok. So if she’s sad I want to try to do something to change that. If she has a flat tire I feel it’s my responsibility to get it fixed. With women there’s no commitment to men don’t feel that obligation or responsibility. They come together to have sex and that’s it. Maybe they also hang out sometimes. But if there’s …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 11:40 PM
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Older women don’t like to admit that often all a younger guy has to do is show them attention and they’ll be down for whatever. Older women were always easier to get with for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 10:50 PM
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I think men dread daily conversation sometimes because we feel we have to carry the conversation. And don’t feel we have too much to talk about today if we just talked yesterday. And men don’t dread spending time together if they get with a woman whose personality they like who has similar interests to them. But a lot of guys reason for being with a woman is simply because they’re physically attracted to her. They don’t really like her personality-wise.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 10:47 PM

The majority of men you see with younger women don’t “go after” younger women. They like all ages of women. The one you currently see them with just happens to be younger.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 10:14 PM

Attraction is attraction. That younger woman doesn’t choose to date that older guy because he has “power” over her. She chooses him because she’s attracted physically, mentally, emotionally, etc. Every man doesn’t try to control women. In some situations the younger woman is actually the pursuer. And you say you date men 10-20 years younger and there’s no power imbalance. What makes you think there aren’t older man-younger woman couples that are the same? It really shows that older women think y…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 09:52 PM

when men date younger women they tend to do so because they can’t pull anyone their own age Lmao it’s actually the opposite. If a guy is attractive enough to attract younger women it’s almost certain that he’s the guy women his own age want. It’s actually harder to pull younger women than older women. This is why you’ll see some younger guys that can’t get women their own age lose their virginity to older women and date older women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 09:36 PM

Every time I dated a younger woman and women my age had an issue with it it wasn’t out of some sense of wanting to protect younger women. It was literally out of a sense of “why won’t you date me?”
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 09:34 PM
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Having superficial relationships with multiple women is easier than having a committed relationship with one. In superficial situations there’s no expectation of daily conversations or spending quality time together. In an actual relationship there’s usually an expectation to check in, ask how they’re doing, spend time, comfort them when they’re feeling down, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 08:13 PM
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Because the “beta simp” doesn’t get their vagina wet
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 02:34 PM
2

Only a minority of women can Or maybe the men they’ve been with just aren’t good enough?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 11:06 PM
2

It’s funny how people say “that’s not how things work” when it’s convenient for their argument. At one time women were virgins until marriage. If a girl said she wanted to go out and sleep with different guys to see what she likes she’d be told “that’s not how things work.” The fact is each woman is attracted to a smaller percentage of men than men are attracted to women. For the sake of the conversation say women are attracted to 10 percent of men while men are attracted to 50 percent of women.…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 10:58 PM
2

This thing called “talking?”
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 10:29 PM
15

I try to tell these guys that. Even when you’re with a woman, if she’s not cooperating and she’s just making things difficult in general, it’s because her sexual attraction for you isn’t super high. Women that are highly attracted to a man pretty much go along with whatever he wants to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 10:19 PM
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Men typically retire from most sports and military roles in their 30s What does that have to do with strength? He can still weight train. He can still move furniture around the house for you. He can still open that darned jar of peach preserves for you. He can still fight off an attacker if the need arises. There’s even a saying about “old man strength” because some people say older men can often be even stronger than when they were young.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 11:14 AM
2

Because women will actually pay when they really like a guy
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 10:42 AM
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It’s not socialization it’s biology. Women were valued for the ability to carry children and men were valued for their strength. At a certain age women can lose the ability they were valued for. Men don’t just lose their ability to do physical things if they take care of themselves. They could actually get stronger as they age.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 09:22 AM
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Maybe back in the day before feminism and women’s lib. But not today. Men literally kill each other for women’s attention and validation. In this forum there are guys suicidal that would do anything if a woman would just show them some attention. “Happy wife happy life” is pretty much the theme of the Barbie movie. But the life for the Ken’s/men isn’t actually “happy.”
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 09:22 PM
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I didn’t see the film. But there’s a YouTuber I follow who’s kind of a men’s advocate. I remember he did a breakdown of the movie and called it the “new Fight Club.” If I remember correctly he said something about the Ken’s being better people than the Barbie’s, but they let the need for the Barbie’s validation lead them to do things that were against their own interests and the interests of the entire society.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 08:57 PM
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In my experience I’ve seen women say they keep being involved with multiple guys because in their past they thought they were monogamous with some guy only to find out he was seeing other women. They say they felt “stupid” for being monogamous for a guy who wasn’t. So they’ll have a “get them first before they get me” mentality. The saying about the current guy having to pay for what the guy in her past did is often true. Even if you tell them you’re not seeing anyone else they won’t believe you…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 02:49 AM
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What makes you think the negative views men have of some women aren’t because of actual real life experience and not some guy on the internet? The “redpill” existed before the internet. The internet is just where men started to share their experiences with each other and saw the similarities.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 01:23 AM
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I’ve only had one relationship that didn’t have these ebbs and flows where one of us wants sex and the other doesn’t. This was a girl I was with for two years. When it started I was 41 and she was 28. She was a nurse and worked long shifts Monday thru Friday. But Friday night she’d pack a bag and come stay with me for the weekend. We’d literally be going at it from Friday night thru Sunday morning or afternoon. We even joked about how it was like we only took breaks to go get food. Then come bac…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 08:42 PM
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Not necessarily. I like “hooking up” but not with new people all the time. I like hooking up with one person at a time who’s only hooking up with me. Even if I could hook up with a new woman every day I wouldn’t. It’s too draining and time consuming. Basically I much prefer serial monogamy or a committed relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 08:38 PM
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Yeah well to the person that has an abundance of food to choose from eating plain bread is “empty and meaningless.” But to the person starving that plain bread would be like a gourmet cake.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 07:19 PM
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Because a “single woman” knows that at any moment she chooses, she can go find a guy to at least act like he wants to spend time with her and give her his attention. The single man usually has no options. He’s the typical guy who texts “good morning” to a woman every day with no response. It’s like the difference between starving and fasting. The single woman is fasting. The single man is starving.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 05:30 PM
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All my female friends started with them being attracted to me. But they let me take the “lead” and decide if we’ll be more. If I never make the move to be more they’re cool with just being friends. But that doesn’t change the fact that they befriended me because they saw me as an attractive, charming, charismatic guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 02:55 PM
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In almost all situations heterosexual men and women that are “friends” have some level of attraction to each other. That’s why they become friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 02:52 PM
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I saw one of those “man asking questions on the street” videos the other day. The two women being questioned called the guy a misogynist. He asked them what “misogynist” meant since they were calling him that. The two women looked at each other. They literally didn’t know the meaning of the word they were calling men. So just know that when people use words like misogynist or narcissist they often don’t even know what they mean. They just hear other people use them all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 03:08 AM
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Because they see men, whether they’re younger or older, as the pursuer. But the reality is sometimes when it’s younger woman-older man the younger woman was the pursuer. And sometimes when it’s older woman-younger man that older woman was the pursuer.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 06:48 PM
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For some people it is. But when I drink it’s not because I’m anxious or wanna take to someone. It’s literally just to feel good. All the other things are just byproducts
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 02:03 PM
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Right. It’s funny to me sometimes how easy it is. Because I have dreads and tattoos and dress and carry myself a certain way women will actually approach me. But I’ve never been to jail, broken a law, or anything lol. I was actually in the gifted and talented program in school lol. One girl actually said she was surprised when she spent time with me at how intellectual and well spoken I was. Because I have the similar look that street guys have.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 01:59 PM
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All true. But a side effect of that is it’s easy to appropriate “pookie features.” Basically, if you’re a black man you can learn how to appear and act like a “pookie” and you’ll get black women. You don’t have to be a good man to get black women. You just have to have the superficial things they’re attracted to. If you’re good in bed and decent looking that’s really all you need.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 01:29 PM
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You’ve got it. Anyone that pays attention can see that the real beneficiaries of women being “sexually liberated” is the men those women want to sleep with.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 11:13 PM
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I don’t even think it’s so much drunken hookups. I know so many women that talk about guys acting like they actually like them and may possibly want a relationship. Only to sleep with him and find out later that he really doesn’t want that. He really just wants them to be available for sex when he wants it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 11:11 PM

Yeah there were more prostitutes. But the women today are having just as much sex as prostitutes, but they’re not charging money. They often don’t even get affection or a hot meal.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 11:06 PM
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Before feminism the black American woman was seen as the most married, Christian, family oriented woman in the US. Along came feminism and black women are now known as the leaders in out of wedlock births and abortions, and are the least married group. The influencers black girls look up to are rappers like Sexxxy Red and City Girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 11:02 PM
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I think women getting upset that an unattractive man likes them is because in the back of their mind it makes them think “is he the level of guy that matches me???” When an attractive guy likes them it makes them feel they’re attractive too. A supermodel can look in the mirror and thinks she’s ugly. If an ugly guy approaches her it just reaffirms that. But if an attractive guy approaches her she thinks “maybe I am hot after all.”
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 08:51 PM
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One woman today told me her counselor/therapist told her she loves drama. She said at first she got offended and asked the therapist why she said that. She said she told her that when she talked about the toxic, abusive, crazy situations she was in with guys she was excited when she told the stories. There are a LOT of women out here like that. The worse thing a guy can be to them is “boring,” aka drama free. The dramatic relationship with the “Chad” guy is chefs kiss for a lot of women. People …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 09:00 PM
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It’s in the modern woman’s script to have a disregard for heterosexual relationships and men. To get along with other women a woman has to follow along with the “men are trash” rhetoric. A woman that actually says she wants a relationship and is miserable without one will be ostracized by other women. But even the women that talk like they hate men are happier when they’re in a relationship with a good man.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 07:09 PM
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I wouldn’t say women I’ve been with were actually bad either. Not amazing either though. But I’d say men learn to tell women they’re great at something so they’ll keep doing it. It’s the same reason why men will tell their wife she looks great when she asks him if she looks fat even though she’s put on 50lbs. Some men tell these “lies” to keep getting the things their woman does for them. But then there’s other men that tell these “lies” because they genuinely want their woman to feel good about…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 12:13 AM
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Most women actually aren’t great at giving head or sex, period. They just think they are because the vast majority of men won’t complain even if it’s mediocre.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 11:30 PM
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Right. When he has a woman that’s less free physical and emotional labor he does for the other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 01:14 PM
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Yes but people need to stop acting like they can’t see when someone has feelings for them beyond “friends.” Back in the day, when a guy would go out of his way to do things for a particular woman the older women would tell her “oh girl that man is sweet on you.” Meaning he has romantic feelings. But today it’s like women have guys doing things for them a boyfriend or husband would do, and they act like they don’t realize the guy is “sweet on them.”
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 01:11 PM
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When a female friend my age found out I was dating someone 13yrs younger her response was “oh you like young bitches? That’s why you never tried to date me?” I think if a 40yr old woman is interested in a 40yr old man, only to find out he’s dating a 27yr old woman, it’s going to bother that 40yr old woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 01:03 PM
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If women think men approaching them in public is “creepy” then yes, women are just as “creepy” as men. But when a woman approaches me I never “oh she’s creepy!” Even if I’m not attracted to her I think “aww that was sweet” and walk with my head a little higher. The last girl that approached me in a store I actually told her thank you, and told her I was feeling down that day and she helped to lift my mood.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 12:06 AM
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Wrong. Real men just screw the fake women. We marry the “plain Jane’s.” Men aren’t like women where we want the person we marry to be the same as the hoes we’ll mess with.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 05:12 PM
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if friends think the guy is good for her, that makes a huge difference I’ve literally seen women date and even marry men they really don’t even like, but their friends are amazed by him.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 05:02 PM
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I always say that as far as dating and relationships go women want the guy they’re with to be someone their friends would be impressed by in some way. Looks, his job, his car, his sexual skills, intelligence, conversational skills, etc. If he would come across as someone “impressive” in some of those categories they’ll want to date him. If he ticks none of those boxes he gets ignored. Men, on the other hand, mostly just care that their girl is impressive in looks. And some guys don’t even care t…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 05:00 PM
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I’m not the guy that trolls strange women on the internet for vagina. Just because someone is a man doesn’t mean we’re “brothers” or comrades that should support each other. That’s what women do. If those men and the women that cater to them fell off the face of the Earth today I wouldn’t shed a tear.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 01:31 PM
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You’re posting in nsfw Reddit groups and you’re surprised scumbags are reaching out to you? There’s going to be a higher concentration of guys like that in a group like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 11:02 AM
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It tells you those men are actually bringing something to the table besides looks. Or would you rather just have a pretty man that doesn’t actually do anything?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 09:34 AM
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a below average man with a beautiful girlfriend I see the opposite all the time too. A guy that looks like he’s trained for years with a woman that looks like she’s never worked out
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 09:33 AM
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someone in their early 20s You can’t see it’s “sickening” without knowing the people involved. They might actually be more compatible with each other than they’ve been with anyone else they ever were involved with.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 01:30 PM
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It’s not uncommon either. If a woman is attracted to a man she’s not really going to disqualify him because he’s a few years older than her last boyfriend. He might actually be more attractive than her younger ex boyfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 01:28 PM
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What do you think an intelligent person would say is the more “real” version of someone? What you see in pictures they pose for? Or who they come across as when you’re actually around them talking to them and seeing how they act and carry themselves irl?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 10:53 PM
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a way for someone to display or imply something about themselves Yeah they show who you want people to think you are. But I do see how crafting a certain image is valuable in online dating. But I never use online dating. I just meet women irl and talk to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 10:49 PM
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if you’re an attractive loner with no friends and stay in all the time, women won’t be interested Bullshit lmao. I meet women all the time out when I’m by myself shopping or whatever. All they care about is you’re attractive, witty, and pleasant to talk to. They don’t care about friends and what you do and all that. Some barely even ask your name lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 10:47 PM
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they definitely do show personality If you’re that type of person. I’m the type that just takes pictures with no smile or facial expression. But when I actually talk to people I’m constantly smiling, joking, asking questions, and engaging. Posing for pictures doesn’t really show how a person is irl
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 10:44 PM

Bullshit. The problem with too many “nice guys” is they have no sexual edge. It’s got nothing to do with being too kind. When a woman’s around them they don’t know if they’re with an asexual dude or a gay dude. I’m kind to all the women I date and they’re still attracted. Why? Because they know even though I’m nice, kind, and sweet….I’m also gonna tear that ass up and blow that back out when they let me.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 08:54 PM

No but it does increase the chances of you making a lot of money, which increases the chances she’ll think you’re even worthy of her giving you the time of day
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 10:23 AM
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They need to be comfortable with a guy to open up their full personality This. I’ve realized this is my “superpower.” Every woman I’ve been with at some point says something to the effect of “I don’t know why I’m so comfortable with you. I really don’t even know you.” On the first date with one of my ex’s we went back to my place and she was peeing with the bathroom door open. I said “uhhh do you want me to close the door?” She said “no it’s okay.” Then she laughed and said “omg I’m sorry I don’…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 07:40 PM

Is a woman making 100k that dates a man making 45k predatory then?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 07:28 PM
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Is it also “predatory” for a woman making 45k to seek out men that make 100k? Is it “predatory” for overweight women to seek fit men?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 11:32 AM
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It’s actually partially men’s fault. If above average men only slept with women they see as “wife material” then the average women they’d never commit to would eventually see that they have no chance with him but they have a chance with the average guy. It’s like the above average “Chad” guys are fooling average-below average women into thinking they have a chance of a relationship. And it’s average men’s fault too for not standing on their own principles and standards. They don’t really demand …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 10:43 PM
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Weight, being a single mother, body count, financial, etc. If you’re a fit, average guy people will say you don’t deserve a fit woman. They say the fit women are for above average men. Like OP said, above average men will sleep with average-below average women. So those women look at that above average man as their standard. But that above average man only looks at them as easy sex. When he’s looking for a relationship he’s looking at the fit women. This makes the average-below average woman loo…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 10:31 PM
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Because those “preferences” basically eliminate 99.999999999% of the women you encounter
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 10:22 PM
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I agree. Sex period has little value. It’s a pleasurable activity but it’s not essential to your day to day life. But women will still feel a man should give them the world simply because they sleep with him. It takes more than that babygirl
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 06:48 PM
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Not true. Men definitely love women who only “provide” sex and nothing more. The reason it’s uneven is because that man is also “providing” sex. But women act like men’s sex has no value so they think they should be compensated in other ways for sleeping with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 04:36 PM
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All that “other stuff” isn’t redpill. Redpill is essentially what you stated in your first sentence
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 01:48 PM
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I’m not gay or bi but I’d actually say the women in all your examples are more attractive than the men. I’ve definitely seen couples like you described though. One I can think of off the top of my head is Keanu Reeves and his lady. But I think men (smart men at least) will go down in looks if a woman is super cooperative, supportive, and just adores him in general. Many super attractive women are entitled and narcissistic. They’re nice to look at but not really nice to be around for extended per…
/r/AllPillDebate08/11/23 08:00 PM
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We see women in here say that they don’t like older men every day. But then we see People’s “sexiest man alive” be this guy. He’ll be 58 in January
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 02:46 PM
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Men don’t really care most of the time tbh. We have the “I’m here for a good time not a long time” mentality. It’s women that are more prone to getting with a problematic guy and expect him to change because of them lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 05:00 PM
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Lmao they definitely do. I’ve dated women that will literally say things like “I know this situation is going to be toxic” with excitement in their voices. And it’s not even like I’m some bad guy. But they see me as attractive and feel I have a personality that women like. So they think there will be other women floating around and that’s exciting to them. This is why people say women like men that other women like. The thought of other women lurking in the background excites a lot of women. Wei…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 04:50 PM
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Not because they’re automatically not attracted to older men though. It’s because they haven’t met the right one yet. The one that doesn’t make them feel like they’re with an older man.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 04:18 PM
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You do realize you’re actually the exception to the rule. The majority of women want kids and a family. The majority of men don’t care as much.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 11:46 PM
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You have to find the right balance between looks and personality. The most attractive women often feel men should feel blessed just to be with someone that looks like them. I’d much rather go down a couple notches in looks for a woman I like who actually shows she appreciates me. One chick I was talking to said it’s “narcissistic” as a man to actually like women to show you appreciation. But idc. I know the reason I don’t have horror stories with women is because I deal with the ones that actual…
/r/AllPillDebate06/11/23 05:16 PM
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For men, the most easygoing, stress free relationships are going to be with women that are more attracted to the man than the man is to them. I tell guys that if they’d focus on dating the women that are attracted to them their experience would be way different from the men that complain about women
/r/AllPillDebate06/11/23 03:51 PM
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Men that care about those things do. The ones that don’t, don’t. You attract the men that are the type of men that deal with a woman like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 03:29 PM
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I think a lot of fuckless men would like to believe otherwise They would. The same way they like to think their face and height are the problem and not their personality. Because that allows them to be defeatist and say there’s nothing they can do about their issues because it’s genetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 11:02 AM
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I meant to reply to the person you replied to. Men spread more STDs because of the way our bodies work and not necessarily because they’re more “nasty.”
/r/AllPillDebate03/11/23 11:06 PM
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Actually it’s because of the way sex works. It’s easier for things to spread from man to woman than woman to man.
/r/AllPillDebate03/11/23 09:11 PM

Do you think women today are $0 willing prostitutes? I know women that are single but have multiple guys they sleep with. But when they really need real help with something or support those men aren’t there. I’d say in that sense yes they’re $0 willing prostitutes.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 06:52 PM

Sounds like the ideal type of society if corporations had their way……
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 06:01 PM

Relationships were transactional, and women were receiving more than men in relationships. Now you see more situations where men are still getting what they want (free sex), but women aren’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 05:58 PM

How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 05:56 PM

Every woman I’ve known who says she doesn’t want a relationship, within a year will start saying she does. Then she gets with a guy and goes on and on about “her man.” Then they break up and she’s back on the “I don’t need a man” train, and the cycle repeats
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 05:55 PM

We don’t care. As long as there are still an abundance of you willing to spend Friday-Saturday nights, and maybe one more night out of the week together it’s all good. Being married and in a relationship as a man is much more work for not much reward compared to just having more casual “situationships” with women. Whenever men see a woman she wants sex but doesn’t want a relationship we feel like we just won the lottery.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 05:48 PM
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And that one thing is entitlement
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 11:24 AM
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Have you ever considered that your relationship actually is the norm?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 09:29 PM
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Plus having kids is the magnum opus for a lot of women Every woman I know that's 35+ and childless is miserable. They want a "family" so bad they start getting "fur babies."
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 09:22 PM
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She'll get mad at you but won't stay mad.
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 08:02 PM
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Shorter dudes that think they're handsome believe that. But they're really just not as handsome as they think. When you have the face women will literally sit and stare into your eyes and do things like rub on your face like Gollum and his "precious" LoL
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 06:07 PM
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Just saying you're a man's wife causes people to respect a woman more than if she's just his girlfriend
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 05:58 PM
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Being in a relationship is tricky as a man. Because I think there's something in women that makes them want to see what it's like to have what they don't have at the moment. So if she has the guy that's attentive and always there she'll want to feel what it's like to be with the guy who's distant. If she's with the distant guy she wants the more attentive guy. So as a man you have to keep a level of unpredictability in your relationship. Men are the opposite. We want familiarity and routine more…
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 01:16 PM
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That's different though. That's them physically changing. Women will lose attraction for a man just because he likes them too much and says he wants them and only them.
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 11:15 AM
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Also, if it's mental that means that there needs to be an element of uncertainty or unpredictability to keep the longing and desire high. So if you don't get married or move in with a woman she'll always wonder "does he really like me? What's he doing right now? Is there someone else?" Feeling like there are other women that are trying to take him keeps their desire higher. Men are the opposite. We want to know that we're the only man in her life romantically. If we find out she's talking to oth…
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 11:13 AM
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Mowt men struggle to get just one woman. So when they get one they'll often turn a blind eye to things because they don't want to be alone. They'll overlook and ignore things like a woman's body count or her having male "friends." But in reality if they were actually strong enough to say things that may lead to a break-up and being alone they'd express that those things are an issue for them.
/r/AllPillDebate30/10/23 06:51 PM
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you really think some dude with 20, 30, 40 casual lays is suddenly ready to settle down The problem is the guy with all those casual lays is usually more attractive in every way than the guy with 3. When they say they won't settle, attractiveness is a huge part of that. I literally saw a thread on Twitter of women saying they'd rather be with a guy they're actually attracted to who they have great sexual chemistry with instead of some unattractive IT guy making 250k. You put the inexperienced ni…
/r/AllPillDebate28/10/23 12:23 PM
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LMAO I've never approached a woman like "hey what's your number?" It's always a general conversation like "Its a nice day today isn't it?" Or "that's a nice whip you've got there." Or "I like smoked paprika too. What do you use it in?" That last one is actually something a young lady started a conversation with me with at a grocery store one time. It's better when you don't let on from the jump that you're attracted and that's your reason for talking to them.
/r/AllPillDebate27/10/23 10:45 AM
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What's so wild about it? If she looks good and she thinks I look good what's the problem? I've dated women I met in the grocery store. I've started conversations with women I'm parked next to at the car wash and turned that into dating. I've been at the gas pump and started a conversation with women at the pump next to me and turned that into dating. Anyplace you can have a conversation is a place you can "approach" someone.
/r/AllPillDebate27/10/23 08:25 AM
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I respect your opinion but I think if you asked men the vast majority would say it’s rare that they’ve been wooed by a woman. For most men, they do the wooing and the woman either accepts or doesn’t accept.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 07:32 PM
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That’s the start. The pursuit is “romance” even though it’s often just men’s way of conveying we want to sleep with a woman. The buying flowers, chocolates, breakfast in bed, writing poems or songs. People talk about men “wooing” a woman, not women “wooing” a man. The tradition that the man is supposed to ask the woman to marry him is that man “providing romance.”
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 06:06 PM
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Now that I think about it I’d say men start out being romantic because we feel that’s the only way we can get the woman. While women will “provide romance” when they’re sure the man is worth investing in, and not just because he likes them. And for a lot of men, as long as that woman is providing those good feelings he’ll keep being romantic. When he starts to feel they don’t really “like” each other anymore he might stop being romantic but continue to perform his duties as a husband/partner. I’…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 05:19 PM
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For me romance is when I’m going to see my girl and on the way I pick up her favorite iced coffee drink and surprise her with it. Or when I’m on Amazon I’ll just order that book she was talking about buying. Or a cute case for her phone. You may be different, but I’d you asked most men they’d say most women don’t just do things like that for them unless they ask. I’ve had women that will definitely go all out when I ask for something or for my birthday. But doing things like that on a regular da…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 04:49 PM
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Lmao most of the women I know have a temper tantrum if their significant other doesn’t remember their birthday. So he learns he’d better remember if he wants a peaceful relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 04:18 PM
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“Providing romance” starts when a man approaches a woman, basically implying that she’s so special that he chose her out of all the other women available to approach. That’s the start of making her feel special and loved.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 04:06 PM
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That’s still not romance. That’s being dutiful to the person you took vows to care for.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 04:01 PM
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Yes. I think men genuinely like to do things to make the woman they care about smile. Women don’t really do that. I think men are so focused on sex it makes women think having sex with him is the greatest thing they can do for him. The whole concept of the friendzone is a thing because men think if they’re just a little more romantic it’ll show the woman he’s the man for her. The average woman, if she gets rejected by a man she wants, isn’t going to think being nice and “romantic” towards him wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 03:55 PM
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women hate it much much more And this is why some women will never approach a man no matter how attractive she thinks he is.
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/23 10:29 PM
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the approach needs a plausible excuse about why you are talking to this random girl on the street Very true. This is why grocery stores are a low-key great spot. You find yourself on an aisle looking at the same types of foods and it's easy to strike up a conversation about recipes or favorite foods.
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/23 10:27 PM
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I can see her side and your side tbh. I've had women approach me and I've approached women. With the women that approached me it almost always lead to dating, or at the least sex. The women I approached were more hit and miss. But I will say that when it comes to the women that approached me they were usually more promiscuous and less likely to want something monogamous. They may not have been throwing themselves at every guy they saw but were definitely approaching other guys too. Also, there a…
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/23 10:04 PM
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Not at all. If you believe that you don't really know women or see what's happening. You can get someone's interest by just being tall. But between someone noticing a guy because he's tall, and sleeping with him, they have to talk. That's charisma, or I guess they call it "rizz" nowadays. If you're socially inept or too awkward, you could be as tall as the Eiffel Tower and women will still steer clear of you.
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/23 09:52 AM
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Most men are totally unaware how many sexual partners their wife to be has had. They intentionally don't ask because they can sense that they won't like the answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 03:25 AM
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I'd assume she's not super attracted to me. The last woman I got involved with, when we got sexual, she didn't ask "do you want head?" She said "CAN I suck on you?" When she was done she told me "thank you" and said she'd been wanting to do that for a while. I'm not saying men should only deal with women like this. But if she starts out not wanting to do things like give head it's only going to go downhill as time goes on and the initial attraction goes down.
/r/AllPillDebate24/10/23 03:50 PM
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people were quick to dismiss it as being something related to their personality and charisma I'd say it's both looks and charisma. But people don't mention how much a person's charisma is dependent on people treating them a certain way because they're good looking. When I know a woman finds me attractive it's easy for me to let loose and be more charismatic. When you're secure and confident it's easier to be charismatic. When dealing with women nothing makes you more secure and confident than kn…
/r/AllPillDebate24/10/23 02:12 PM
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Physical strength and endurance because of the differences in how we're built. Maybe more of a natural inclination towards using tools.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 05:31 PM
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If you go all the way back to the beginning of people performing tasks, and deciding who should do what, why do you think the more physically demanding tasks were given to males instead of females?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 04:12 PM
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Actually women benefit more from men than men benefit from women. Just because men are stronger physically they have to perform more of the physical tasks. But women aren't necessarily "better" than men in the nonphysical tasks. So it's nice if a woman helps you do something. But not necessary. Women actually need men to do certain things for them. The only thing women can do that men can't is birth children. If a woman isn't birthing children for a particular man he gets nothing in return for h…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 03:49 PM
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Women have been socialized to be more supportive because they've always needed others in order to survive. When they support someone is often because subconsciously they want to also be supported and helped in the same way. Men aren't like that because men feel if something comes up they can handle it on their own. They don't see everyone as a member of this loose collective of people helping each other. Women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 08:44 AM
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Just knowing what to say and how to talk to women in a way that attracts them and doesn't repel them
/r/AllPillDebate20/10/23 06:41 PM
1

The 20 percent is the type of guy that women of all ethnicities will find attractive. He's tall, has the eyes, jawline, hair, body, etc. He doesn't even have to try and attractive women will come to him. And because of this he might have no game and the personality of a brick. I'd say of the remaining 80 percent, maybe 50-60 percent will also be attractive to certain women, but not others. These are the guys who can use game and personality to get women. He actively has to put in work to get wom…
/r/AllPillDebate20/10/23 05:47 PM
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I literally had one dude say he doesn't even bother to ask women he talks to if they've got a man. If he approaches them and flirts and they flirt back and give him their number or whatever, they don't care if she's got a man. They're going to go after her. I said that's foolish because some women will just use some clueless guy to make their man jealous and do something crazy
/r/AllPillDebate20/10/23 02:40 PM
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When a woman tells me she's got a BF or husband I make my exit. The last thing I want is some woman's husband or BF gunning for me because their woman wants to cheat with me. There's too many stories of guys dead because of some woman's jealous husband/BF
/r/AllPillDebate19/10/23 09:37 PM
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Right. And the same guys that complain about women being cheaters and promiscuous online will be the same guys trying to get women in relationships to cheat with them SMH
/r/AllPillDebate19/10/23 09:31 PM
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The highest domestic violence rates are with lesbian couples too. People don't talk about how a lot of male-female domestic violence occurs when the woman gets physical with the man first and he finally gets fed up and retaliates. I've actually had multiple women I've been with hit me. I just chose to never hit them back. But when it's two women they don't hold back.
/r/AllPillDebate18/10/23 02:32 PM

This is why women are done. Men need to learn how to pick it up or they can be single Don't you see? Men have figured out it's better to halfway commit and have access to sex with a woman than it is to fully commit and have to actually provide for her. Men that are able to attract women are loving it. You see women and men that can't attract women complaining about the decline in relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 02:26 PM

I saw a lady the other day say all the men vs women talk online is starting to look ridiculous when you see another woman pop up pregnant every day. If they really hated men they wouldn't be sleeping with them. The woman that wrote this post, if she's heterosexual, is still probably getting fucked by some guy even though she comes on Reddit to complain about men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 02:19 PM
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Actually I think lesbian couples have the highest rate
/r/AllPillDebate18/10/23 02:10 PM
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LMAO I promise you you should listen to what men say about this
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 04:54 PM
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As is the case in most of these debates, the truth is somewhere in the middle
/r/AllPillDebate17/10/23 12:40 PM
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Women in every career get a lot of help from their male coworkers. In life in general men help women far more than women help men. In our society we just expect men to do certain things for women. But if you were to expect women to do something just because they're a woman you'd get in trouble for being sexist.
/r/AllPillDebate17/10/23 07:08 AM
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What sealed it for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 06:56 AM
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What exactly are you saying they disagree on?
/r/AllPillDebate16/10/23 09:08 PM
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I don't think I would enjoy a relationship if she isn't attracted to me That's really the only women you should even be with. Even if she doesn't approach you, if you approach her and start a conversation you should be able to get the sense that she likes what she's seeing and hearing when the two of you talk. If she seems not so enthusiastic it's better to move on instead of trying too hard to win her over.
/r/AllPillDebate16/10/23 08:46 PM
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They're too socially awkward. And it seems nowadays it's worse with the younger generations. They just talk in a way and say things that don't invite people in to like or enjoy them. Like one young guy said a girl approached him and he told her to get TF out of his way lol. He said it was because he was so nervous. That repels women. As a man it's in your best interest to almost have a constant level of "cool" about yourself no matter who you're talking to.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 08:41 PM
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Yup. Someone said dating and talking to people is like a muscle that has to be trained and has "memory" about what to do. That's why some people who call themselves "dating experts" advise guys to just talk to one woman a day, even if they're not attracted or trying to date her. You get comfortable with it. So by the time you do get to talking to someone you're actually interested in you'll be comfortable with it.
/r/AllPillDebate16/10/23 07:15 PM
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Oh wow. The irony is her heart was probably pumping worse than yours. The girl I've been seeing the last few months approached me first. She said she was nervous as hell. Could barely breathe. But she said I was so laid-back and cool about it she got comfortable talking to me almost immediately. But I think what happened to you also is the reason a lot of women are rude when guys try to approach them. They're really nervous about talking to a stranger. So whenever I talk to a stranger or they tr…
/r/AllPillDebate16/10/23 07:03 PM
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What's even better? A woman that approaches you and shows interest IRL without seeing your curated "profile" online
/r/AllPillDebate16/10/23 06:51 PM
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is he really housing and trying to build her up....or get his dick sucked for $2 or a rock Sometimes both. Sometimes he tries to help her improve her life. She benefits by getting clean. He benefits by potentially having a wife/partner. Men do this all the time. Even with women our own age or older. There's a reason the "Captain Save-a-hoe" stereotype exists
/r/AllPillDebate16/10/23 01:38 PM
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I disagree. When people say men are struggling because of personality it's not because of who they really are. They're struggling because they can't "perform" and show a "personality" that's exciting to a woman. They're missing the wit, playfulness, and flirtatious demeanor that's attractive to women. You're thinking telling men to improve their personality is like telling a politician to be honest? I say no. It's actually like telling a politician to kiss more babies and learn to say what their…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 01:24 AM
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I guarantee an older unattractive man will take on a young crackhead chick who can clean herself up pretty good when she wants and try to play Captain Save-a-hoe. I see it every day.
/r/AllPillDebate12/10/23 08:58 PM
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Yeah I don't get the whole "I can't get vagina so I'll just drop out of society" thing. Even if I never had a woman I'd still want to work and make money in order to do things that I like to do
/r/AllPillDebate12/10/23 04:35 PM
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There are women's shelters and programs specifically set up to help women get on their feet. Or, if she plays her cards right, she can find a man that'll be willing to help her. Women in general aren't coming along to help a man out who's struggling.
/r/AllPillDebate12/10/23 04:32 PM
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Because a mentally ill woman can still find a man to be with her and help her with her daily life. Women aren't trying to help men like that. Women want men that are better than them. Not a man they may need to help.
/r/AllPillDebate12/10/23 04:28 PM
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string him along for a year without sex Any guy that knows how much women love sex would have known she was playing him. When a woman is really into a guy she's trying to have sex ASAP
/r/AllPillDebate12/10/23 11:51 AM

You can't make this up lmao. They want you to be confident. But also don't want you to be confident.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 04:36 AM
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We have to have that belief in ourselves. We don't have a world telling us how great we are every day. Just look at how you want to tell your male friends they're average at best. Do you feel the urge to do that to other women? I'd say it's more likely you compliment other women whenever possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 04:34 AM
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I saw a post today where a woman said if a man is with you for more than 2yrs and doesn't marry you you should leave because he's not "giving you what you need." I started to reply back that food is a need. Water is a need. Being loved and cared for by the person you're with is a need. But being legally married isn't a "need." But I didn't even feel like going back and forth
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 04:29 AM
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I think women just hate it when men they might not personally be attracted to have the audacity to think they're attractive. It's almost like it offends them and they have to let him know. But then people say a man's confidence makes him attractive. So since men don't have a built-in network of people telling them how great they are (whether it's true or untrue) like women do they have to do it themselves. This is why I tell guys that they have to walk around like they're "the man." Because if t…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 04:22 AM
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The funny thing is I just saw a woman today post "I got married and started wearing my ring and men don't approach me anymore. My husband wears his ring and the number of women that approach him has gone up. What's wrong with women?!?"
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 06:04 PM
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Exactly. Even if they’re not conventionally attractive, they’re put in positions where a charismatic persona is projected. They’re not posting “Random Guy walking down the street.” you can have the literal looks of a chimpanzee and have entire populations of women drool over you This is why I say guys should just stop asking women what they’re attracted to. They literally don’t know until it’s (he’s) in their face giving them the “tingles.”
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 12:27 AM

Lmao these chicks literally be showing each other dick pics of the guys they mess with
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 07:05 PM

Lmao the first time I slept with one of my ex’s she told on the way home she called her sister and told her all about it. When I met her mom she knew me as the “freaky man that had her daughter sprung.”
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 07:03 PM

And this is why men that can get women to be “repeat customers” are the real “prize.” If you can sexually please a variety of women throughout the years you’re pretty much a Jedi master.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 06:59 PM
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Before the desire or need for these things became a social component they were a biological component needed for survival. It’s like yeah society tells women they need a man with a big house and cars. But it’s because those things cost money. And the more money you have the more likely you are to be able to buy what you need to survive, or pay someone to help you survive. Like I saw a thread where people were saying it’s crazy how women nowadays will date a man that can’t even change a flat tire…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 05:47 PM
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I get what you’re saying. But the material things are still the outer reflection of a successful, high status member of our particular society where you trade money for labor. In a society that doesn’t have money the people would trade each other’s skills. So the hunter would bring the farmer meat and the farmer gives him some sweet potatoes. In both societies women would be attracted to those men because they could provide the resources needed to prosper in that society. The other component of …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 05:28 PM
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Lmao You’re trying to logically explain things that are biologically hardwired. It doesn’t matter how the guy got the resources as long as he has them. When a woman (even a woman that can’t have or doesn’t want kids) wants to fuck an attractive guy it’s because she’s biologically wired to want to reproduce offspring with his features. Guys get mad at women for wanting to “baby trap” them. But that’s actually one of the greatest compliments a woman could give a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 05:06 PM
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Disagree. The man with the big house and nice cars is the modern equivalent to the hunter gatherer who’s always successful on the hunt. The big house and cars just represent that man’s ability to accumulate resources.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 03:58 PM
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It’s not fake. He’s really hoping his compliment will make you feel good enough to possibly sleep with him. If he tells you you’re pretty he probably really means it. That doesn’t mean that the other girl in the room isn’t also pretty.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 02:18 PM
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Because it’s too predictable, safe. In nature the feminine is chaos and the masculine is order. You need both to grow and create life. Yin and yang. Women are attracted to men that are structured and ordered, but not too much. You have to be able to cut loose and be spontaneous and unpredictable sometimes. This is what people usually mean when they say someone has “edge.” Men are attracted to women that seem wild and free and untamed, but not too much. The spontaneous dance sessions that break o…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 01:19 PM
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If it feels like work it’s usually because the woman doesn’t have super high interest. Just think about it. When a woman actually wants to kiss you, sleep with you, spend time with you, do you think she’s going to make that hard to do out as easy as possible?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 08:47 AM
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Why wouldn’t you be able to “back up” what you’re saying?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 01:36 AM
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Because “woke” women usually hate men. That includes overweight men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 08:28 PM
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It’s interesting seeing all these negative things said about overweight men when women call overweight women beautiful goddesses every day.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 08:27 PM
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How does “feeling good in your own skin” look vs how “overestimating your worth” looks?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 05:46 PM
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Idk I’ve always been told I look younger than the women I’ve been with that were my age or a couple years younger. There was even one embarrassing situation where a cashier thought my GF was my mother. And she was actually 4yrs younger than me.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 11:40 AM
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I don’t even understand your comment then. You made it sound like you DO compliment older men and don’t like that it makes them feel good about themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 11:35 AM
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Yeah don’t compliment older men if it’s just to be nice. But if it’s real it’s real. No one has a problem complimenting older women that still look young. Why not do the same for older men?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 10:54 AM
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Lmao it’s not a fantasy though. If you’re a man in his 30s or 40s that has managed to keep some element of youth then it’s not so bad. I was laying in bed with the woman I’m currently seeing and she said “I’m lowkey pissed right now. I’m almost jealous of your skin. How did you manage to reach your age and not have any wrinkles?!?”
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 10:42 AM
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Because the personality traits it takes to get a woman to sleep with you are attractive to women. So men that are promiscuous are usually the most attractive physically and personality-wise.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 09:25 PM
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Women aren’t any “better” than men. For example, all the women I’ve dated have watched porn more than me. They have vibrators, butt plugs, roses, etc. The reason you think men are more “degenerate” than women is because men don’t penalize women for being “degenerate.” Just like for every “broke” man there’s a woman even more “broke.” It’s not an issue because men don’t mind being with women that have less than them just like men don’t mind being with women that are more “freaky” or “degenerate” …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 03:18 PM
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How about asking men that actually date women where they meet the women they date. For me it’s everywhere. Wherever I go where women happen to be is a place to “meet women.” This belief that because of “me too” you can’t approach women is false. Women always have and always will be open to attractive, charming men that are good conversationalists approaching them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/23 05:39 PM
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Oh no doubt. At the end of the day the most important thing is how you make her FEEL
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/23 03:32 PM
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I think a lot of guys problem is the mentality of thinking they’re nothing special. I think guys need to ask themselves “if I were a woman would I want to enthusiastically sleep with me?” If your answer is no then you can’t expect to be successful with women. Part of seduction is creating that illusion of something or someone being “special.” I’m no supermodel, but when I clean up and look at myself I think “damn if I was a woman I’d want to fuck the shit out of me.” My girl asked me the other d…
/r/AllPillDebate06/10/23 02:58 PM
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Not really. I’m Gen X but I’ve dated millennial women. Women are women.
/r/AllPillDebate06/10/23 02:39 PM
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They wanna argue about relationships and never even kissed a girl lmao. It’s hilarious. Hating from outside the club and can’t even get in. I saw one dude make a paragraphs long post ranting about women and sex and at the end he added that he’s never had a girlfriend and never even had sex…. Like wtf 😒
/r/AllPillDebate06/10/23 02:13 PM
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And that’s why she’s upset. The men she actually wants aren’t treating her the way she wants.
/r/AllPillDebate06/10/23 12:48 AM
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I came of age in the late 90s early 2000s. So when I heard “don’t approach women” I knew it was bullshit. I knew it really meant “don’t approach women if you’re not attractive, but if you are attractive keep approaching.” I’ve witnessed how a woman gets an ego boost when the handsome, charming, charismatic guy chooses her out of all the other women he could choose to approach.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 06:04 PM
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Me and you baby ain’t nothing but mammals so let’s do it like they do on the discovery channel lol. We’ve used our brains to come up with these elaborate reasons why we choose to mate with who we do. But it’s really biological and nature. Even if we live in the most peaceful society, women will be naturally drawn to the men that appear to be able to exert their will on other people either by force or manipulation or persuasiveness. The “nice guy” gives you the sense that he can only get what he …
/r/AllPillDebate05/10/23 04:00 PM
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I agree. The experience you have with the woman who’s attracted to you immediately will be way better than the experience with a woman you have to convince “grow on.”
/r/AllPillDebate05/10/23 02:18 PM
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If you pay attention to advice women give men about women it’s really about how to be a better boyfriend while you’re in a relationship. They never talk about what actually attracts them though. They really don’t even know because it’s a feeling.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 02:10 PM
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Nah it’s more prevalent with certain men. The types of men that demand a trophy wife are usually the guys that women see as a trophy husband. The “high value” man. All the other average and below average men just want a woman who’s into them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 07:47 PM
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Yup that’s another thing. It’s the de facto accepted haircut for every job or career. If you have certain hairstyles in the US there are certain places that won’t hire you. I’ve literally seen guys get offered jobs, but when they come in and they’re told they’ll need to cut their hair they say they’d rather keep looking for a job elsewhere. I knew a girl who was always into it with her boyfriend because he’d turn jobs down if he had to cut his hair.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 07:13 PM
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I think women are conditioned to care a whole lot about what other people think of the person they’re with. If they see all the other women like this model, or that actor, or this influencer and they meet a guy that looks like that “type” of guy they’re going to date him if his personality isn’t too off putting because he’ll appear to be a “catch” to her social group. That’s how they all end up with guys that look alike.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 07:08 PM
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It’s the “Caesar” haircut. The haircut the Roman Empire forced on all the men in the lands they took over. Its now the go to safe haircut for a “respectable” man of any race in the West. It’s so boring to me though. That’s why as a black man I’ve grown dreadlocks multiple times since I was 18. As soon as I got old enough to decide when and how I wanted my hair cut I said fuck that
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 06:58 PM
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he was just not handsome enough I don’t think so. She kept talking about being attracted to him physically. But the embarrassment she felt from his loud (she kept stressing how LOUD he was talking) rant in the coffee shop killed it. Said people were all looking at them like 😒. There’s a reason women like the mysterious aloof type of guy. He can be cool and just fit in everywhere and not be embarrassing or talk TOO much. The anime obsessed dude will be at a dinner party with her parents or friend…
/r/AllPillDebate04/10/23 05:34 PM
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he was just not handsome enough I don’t think so. She kept talking about being attracted to him physically. But the embarrassment she felt from his loud (she kept stressing how LOUD he was talking) rant in the coffee shop killed it. Said people were all looking at them like 😒. There’s a reason women like the mysterious aloof type of guy. He can be cool and just fit in everywhere.
/r/AllPillDebate04/10/23 05:14 PM
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So what about the other guys who have been rejected because of that? The anime is just an excuse. They were really rejected because they weren’t sexy. They were socially awkward. Women care (a LOT) about how other people view the man they’re with. One woman made a video about how the guy she was on a first date with went on a loud rant in the middle of a coffee shop about how he identifies with some anime character. She said the guy was handsome but his loudness and the fact that it was a first …
/r/AllPillDebate04/10/23 05:04 PM
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I’ve never had a woman reject me after finding out I was into anime. But also, when I’m talking to a woman and getting to know her I don’t feel a need to try to explain to her the plot of my favorite anime shows. It’s not my whole identity. It’s just something they discover about me after we’ve already established that they’re into me.
/r/AllPillDebate04/10/23 04:30 PM
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I agree. I’d say women at any age have most likely had more sexual partners than men their age that are “on their level.” But I’d say the men have actually had more sexual partners that actually wanted a relationship with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 11:32 AM
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No but because women are more picky with who they get involved with their view of “men” is mostly shaped by the specific men they’ve been involved with. Most women have a “type.” If all the men of the “type” she likes turn out to be trash it doesn’t really mean all men are trash. It means the type of men she’s attracted to are trash.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 03:02 PM
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more likely to give the average guy a chance And discover that they actually like the “average guy” better than the other guys they were chasing after previously
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 02:42 PM
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I disagree. All of my relationships either started at work, thru mutual friends, or while I’m just out at a grocery store or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 12:59 PM
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My nephew is 19. From what I see, him and his friends do worse. They don’t have the “game” an older man has. I’ve literally been in situations where younger guys are sitting there with girls their age and they come to me talking about “what do I say to her?” Girl their age feel guys their age are sex obsessed, stupid and immature. It’s hard to be super attracted to a man you view like that as a woman. When they’re around a man who’s actually confident, capable, and secure in himself they think “…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 11:36 AM
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The reason it’s said men’s options go up is because usually men’s confidence and charisma go up as he ages. The experiences he’s had normally make him a wiser, more well rounded person who’s not afraid to express himself. He’s actually more capable, which is something that’s attractive to women. I’ve lost count of the times women I date say it turns them on when I fix something in their house or express how I feel about them. The first one takes hands on experience and the second one takes going…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 10:35 AM
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Most women’s advice to a question like this, if you really pay attention to how they respond, is usually stuff a guy should do when he’s in a relationship with a woman that’s already into him. It’s basically “how I’d like my boyfriend to be.” But they never tell what actually attracts them to a man. Men want to know what makes a man go from being a stranger to the guy she wants to be with and have crazy sex with.
/r/AllPillDebate02/10/23 06:27 PM
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When your woman doesn’t want to fuck you you’re supposed to know why, and fix it. But when she does want to fuck you you’re supposed to drop those draws and bring it.
/r/AllPillDebate01/10/23 03:35 PM
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I think the problem is when inexperienced women are faced with choosing between an inexperienced guy and an experienced guy, the experienced guy is usually more attractive to her. Either physically or personality-wise. So even inexperienced women often find themselves choosing the experienced guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 09:10 AM
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I actually think every woman thinks she’s “special” and he won’t treat her like he’s treated other women. How else can you explain women meeting men that already have multiple kids by different women, and then that woman agrees to be the next baby mama? She thought it would be different for her lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 09:07 AM
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I think it’s because for males the drive to have sex starts at maybe 13-14. So if a guy still hasn’t been able to do that yet by his mid 20s it’s seen almost as a “failure.” He’s either physically unattractive or unattractive personality-wise. For guys that are average physically and have a decent personality there’s going to be some woman that makes the opportunity for sex possible for him by his late teens-early 20s. If it hasn’t happened it’s usually because women aren’t choosing him, for one…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 08:26 AM
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It’s dwindling because these guys are out here giving their time and attention to women that really don’t even like them. They just tolerate them. These guys give off the vibe that they’re just happy someone is willing to tolerate them for a little while. I’d never stay with a woman that wasn’t trying to cook and “dote” on me. I know when women are really into a guy they naturally do that. If they don’t it’s usually because they don’t see him as being “dote-worthy.” I had a coworker who always b…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 02:28 PM
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Lmao I try to tell these guys that women may not be as blatant with it, but they have sex on their minds too. They don’t want the guy who’s a “friendly, nice, guy to chat with.” They want the guy that makes them feel like he’ll blow their back out and have them speaking in tongues. When a woman goes out with a guy and comes with that “no spark” excuse she’s basically saying “I don’t think he can fuck me right.” Part of the appeal of the “mysterious, aloof” guy is he seems so in control and nonch…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 07:53 PM
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Is it ok for a guy in a relationship to go out to bars and buy drinks for other women?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 07:44 PM
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Lmao more internet speak. Women I date say they’re fully aware of the attention they get when they wear certain things
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 07:40 PM
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I’d feel gut punched if a woman wanted to date me but wasn’t enthusiastic about sleeping with me. If she’s enthusiastic about sex with me, actively makes time to do things with me, and can’t go a day without talking to or seeing me that’s better than being with someone that only wants sex from me. Women will put certain guys in casual category and other guys in relationship category. But when they find both in one guy that’s the guy they really want to be with.
/r/AllPillDebate25/09/23 06:30 PM
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Casual sex is overrated. The lead up to having sex with a new woman is awesome. But as far as actual sex goes, the best sex I’ve had hasn’t been with casual partners. It’s been with the women I’ve been involved with monogamously for months or years.
/r/AllPillDebate25/09/23 01:22 PM
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That’s more projection. “They don’t like me because I’m too smart and they’re stupid.” Smart people that are also charming and interesting and good storytellers and enjoyable don’t have that problem. People can’t measure how intelligent you are purely based on talking to you. They can measure if they enjoy talking to you though. A rocket scientist that’s also a good storyteller has no problem attracting people to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 10:40 AM
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Yeah for the same reason I stated. It’s not because dark skin is objectively less attractive. It’s because people live in a society that tells them darker skin is less attractive.” It’s programmed into them from birth.
/r/AllPillDebate24/09/23 03:23 AM
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So men that grew up in a society that tells them dark skin is less than seem to prefer light skin? Shocker
/r/AllPillDebate24/09/23 03:09 AM
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Being used by someone who’s also giving you what you want isn’t the same as someone using you just to get what they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 12:32 AM
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I agree mostly. But I disagree about the road rage part. Every woman I know drives fast and gets mad asl at other drivers and tells me I drive too cautious lmao. They don’t get enraged enough to pull up and curse the other drivers out though. And as far as women being more successful, I had a conversation about this with my girl just yesterday. I think women naturally want to do what it takes to have children. Whether they have a man or not most women want children, so they want to prepare for t…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 06:47 PM
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Part of the pleasure men and women get from being around each other comes from our differences. You may not be physically or sexually attracted to men but you may be mentally attracted to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 04:10 PM
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Exactly. I’ve never seen a woman reject a guy because he was too intelligent. I’ve definitely seen them reject a guy because they felt he wasn’t intelligent though.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 03:39 PM
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This is what unattractive guys tell themselves to cope with the fact the women aren’t choosing them
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 03:37 PM
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It’s not the IQ that turns women off. It’s the fact that higher IQ people are often socially awkward, too serious, inhibited. If you’re a high IQ guy who’s not socially awkward, knows how to have fun, and isn’t too serious you won’t struggle with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 03:34 PM
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Why would you even want a woman to be logical like a man? You might as well be with another man if that’s what you want
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 03:30 PM
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Your version of a “high value man” is a Disney afterschool special version. In the real world the HVM is the guy women want to sleep with and be in relationships with. It’s not the community service guy. It’s the rich charismatic guy with status. When I talk to women that talk about the “high value” guys they dated it’s not the good morally upright guy. It’s a guy with a great job that was popular and could wine and dine them.
/r/AllPillDebate21/09/23 06:58 PM
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I think women just “present” better than men. I know women that have totally chaotic lives but they’re well spoken and know how to fit into a corporate structure, so they seem to get these corporate work from home customer support or Human Resources type jobs really easy. This cover of the New Yorker sums up what I’m talking about. To anyone on the video chat with her she looks sophisticated and well put together. But look at the background. Like I know a woman that got a salaried assistant GM p…
/r/AllPillDebate21/09/23 06:35 PM
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I’d say the “nice guy” is the guy that acts nice and expects sex in return, and can’t hide his frustration when sex doesn’t happen. I’ve been “nice” to women, and expected sex to happen. But I didn’t throw a fit in the times when sex didn’t happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 06:14 PM
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I’m not rich and don’t have some magical social circle. But just today my girl told me she’s so glad she met me. And there’s a reason women complain about their friend disappearing from the friend group when they get a man. Maybe they actually prefer hanging out with that man instead of hanging out with other women. If the men you date aren’t men you really want to be around that’s your experience. In the real world there are a lot of women that actually enjoy being around their man.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 09:24 AM
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What if you don't live together or have kids together?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/23 06:49 PM
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Textbook S.I.G.N language (Shame Insult Guilt and the Need to be right). It's a common thing online for women to throw personal insults at men that disagree with them. Oh you disagree with her about first date protocol? It's because you're ugly. And you've got a small D. Only ugly men with micropenises would say what you're saying. Then here come all the other hens to laugh. If you're not an outspoken guy it'll make you just shut up and not engage in the conversation out of fear of being ridicul…
/r/AllPillDebate19/09/23 11:52 PM
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That's the thing. Only part of being "Chad" is about looks. The rest of it is sexual energy. The guys you're talking about may not have the stereotypical Chad physical features but the women they get can feel their sexual energy. They make women feel that sex with them will be enjoyable.
/r/AllPillDebate19/09/23 03:33 PM
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I'm a dude but even I know that guy in the video isn't "Chad." "Chad" can be any shape, size, or color. What makes him "Chad" is that he gives off sexual vibes to women. They want him to fuck them. This is why "Chad" isn't always described as handsome but he's always described as "sexy." The guy in the video looks like a handsome waiter, but not necessarily "sexy." Although to some women being handsome is enough because they're not that sexual themselves.
/r/AllPillDebate19/09/23 03:31 PM

I think men obsess about being the "best ever" because those are the guys women obsess over and struggle to leave. You don't see women say they find themselves daydreaming about the guy who was the most innlove with them. But you do see them say they sometimes daydream about the guy that gave them multiple intense orgasms or made them squirt. And as long as you're that guy, you'll always have a chance of her coming back to you. I dated a girl who I had an intense physical relationship with. The …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 01:40 PM
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Yes I'd say you're an extreme outlier. From what I've seen even most of the women that say they don't like males attention will perk up and enjoy it when a handsome, charming, charismatic man focuses his attention on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 04:08 PM
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easier to deny yourself when what you are avoiding is unappealing If you feed a dog human food on the regular they'll start to not eat their regular dog food. The way to get them to start back eating regular dog food is to let them get so hungry that they'll eat anything. So a person may seem."unappealing" today, but if you go years with absolutely no affection or intimacy with anyone those "unappealing" people start to look more appealing. Attention from men isn't valued because it's so easy to…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 03:30 PM
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I didn't say ANY man they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 03:27 PM
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I think what OP is saying is how it's easier to deny yourself something when it's readily available than it is to deny yourself something that's scarce. Every woman knows that at any time she can wake up and choose to date or hookup or just chat with any of the guys vying for her attention. But men are less likely to turn down offers from women. Because when they go in a "drought" they can't just turn it off and on.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 02:55 PM
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Wow it's crazy, but telling, that your comment got so many downvotes. I know I'm not a "Chad" but when I read some of the posts in here they make me feel like I am lmao. Because I don't struggle with women. But I'm pretty much the type of guy you described. I try to tell these guys "girls just wanna have fun" will always be true.
/r/AllPillDebate15/09/23 09:03 PM
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I'm talking about the type of guy that doesn't know how to do that stuff and doesn't want to. He doesn't want to get his hands dirty. I'd say younger women may care more about a guy being "pretty." But when they're actually around and involved with a man that can actually do the "manly" things they change what they want in a man. Like I've seen young girls be with a guy that'll sit in the passenger seat while she gets out to pump the gas at a gas station. They don't realize how strange that look…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 08:48 PM
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Idk man. Most guys I see usually may not be out of shape but as far as wardrobe they'll have some combination of a graphic tee that isn't even crisp and new, matched with khaki shorts and the shoes they probably went running in for the last two months. I get compliments on my shirts all the time from women and men, and I don't even feel I'm doing anything fancy. Just some nice colorful button down shirts.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 07:31 PM
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I think a guy that's too focused on appearance can come across as feminine to a lot of women. It's like okay you have a skin care routine and spend $100 on a great haircut, but you can't change a tire or engine oil in a car??? That woman might feel like she might as well be with another woman. The "dusty" dude might not be "pretty" but he may be more masculine.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 06:59 PM
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Nah tbh the men that do want all that stuff are the type that women say they hate. Superficial, materialistic, care about status, etc. Regular guys just want regular girls. But regular guys want "exceptional" guys so they do the things that those "exceptional" guys want. But those women really don't want to even do all that stuff. Like I had one ex that said a guy she used to date was particular about her wanting to be shaved and wear makeup when they went out. He'd even tell her which perfume t…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 06:45 PM
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I think good looking guys who are dumb as a rock do get to enter into relationships more than valedictorians Attraction is about sex. Procreation. We were biologically designed to be "attracted" to certain people so we can fuck and have offspring. In our modern society we consider other factors in addition to pure physical attraction to decide if we want to mate with someone. But it doesn't change that original biological wiring. So telling men to care about their appearance is definitely good a…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 06:31 PM
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Women I know IRL always say they don't struggle to get dates. The guys are just never any good though. Guys that are complaining are complaining about not getting dates, AT ALL.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 05:14 PM
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LMAO every woman I know has guys trying to get with them. And these aren't "hot girls" or women with a lot of followers. Even here in Reddit you'll see women complain about guys trying to message them
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 03:36 PM
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Men cast a wide net and accept whoever takes the bait. And the statistic about more women being in relationships than men makes sense. All those guys in their DM's have gf's and situationships with other women already
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 03:34 PM

I agree. And also think men inherently know this. Which is why men are less likely to continue a relationship with a woman they learn has cheated.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 01:22 PM
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Nah most of these guys are single because they're lame asf. I know guys that are just like the guys you're describing that can at least get one GF. They're not lames though
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 07:14 PM
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I've felt this with women I'm not really all that attracted to. But there's just a really good feeling of comfort when I'm around them. The interesting thing is I'll grow more attracted to them because of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 06:38 PM
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rakish, bold, confident to the point of arrogance Who told you those things were "problematic?" Probably a woman who's basically reading from a script of what she's been told a "good man" should be like. But if she would actually self reflect she'd have to admit that she's actually attracted to those traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 06:36 PM
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I know it's just one example, but how would you explain Napoleon Bonaparte?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 06:34 PM
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You guys really don't know women lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 06:23 PM
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I disagree because I don't think people ignore it. The problem is this weird "don't approach women" thing is so prevalent. The "spark" is something you discover with someone when you're actually with each other. If all you do is swipe left or right on dating apps you may never get the chance to see if you have a "spark" with someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 06:22 PM
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LMAO it's funny how everyone's image of "typical whatever ethnicity guy" is usually an actor or model. It's never the actual real everyday people like the man you posted
/r/AllPillDebate13/09/23 05:59 PM
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No vagina is worth having to look over your shoulder for her husband/boyfriend, my brother
/r/AllPillDebate13/09/23 01:13 AM
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When you get a 9mm slug to your dome you can only blame yourself
/r/AllPillDebate13/09/23 01:03 AM
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They come here and bitch and complain. This is similar to tall dudes that are flabbergasted when a woman rejects them but they see her with a shorter guy. The irony is that his response to not being the guy she chose is exactly why he gets rejected lmao
/r/AllPillDebate13/09/23 01:02 AM
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Most of the dudes that actually post in here just need some pussy. They'd literally not post in here if they had a girl regularly sleeping with them
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 12:57 AM
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Because women don't want virgin men
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 06:33 PM
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So you're saying that part of the reason people choose to wear things is the look?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 12:46 PM
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So you're saying a human being can survive in the heat without wearing shorts that look like they're painted on?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 12:45 PM
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she doesn't want to fuck you, she wants to beat the heat Yeah well, usually it's both
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 03:38 AM
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they like to say looks is all that matters because that's something they can't do much about. But admitting that personality may be their problem is too much accountability because that's something they can actually do something about. Just like someone saying there's no point in them lifting weights because genetics is all that matters and they weren't born with the right genetics
/r/AllPillDebate08/09/23 09:41 AM
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People tend to fall into groupthink online. They'll say what the group they want favor from would agree with. They want to create a certain online persona. For example there are women that stay in man hating groups online all day. But they go home to cook for their husband or boyfriend. You've got guys that talk about simping online. But they're taking women out and paying for everything.
/r/AllPillDebate07/09/23 06:26 PM
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When guys in these spaces talk about the issues with women today, but then you find out they've never had a GF or even sex, everything they say should be deemed irrelevant. The only men who's thoughts and opinions on women should hold weight are those that are actually experienced with women.
/r/AllPillDebate07/09/23 06:20 PM
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You're not really that experienced with women if you think they just hop on the dick of every physically attractive guy they see. And if personality can cause enough discomfort to make a woman not want to have sex with a guy then the opposite is also true.
/r/AllPillDebate07/09/23 06:17 PM
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First of all, are you a man or woman? Attractive does mean sexually attractive. But part of being sexually attractive is the conversations you have and your personality. I've always said physical attractiveness can get you in the door. But it's your personality that makes her want you to stay. I just saw a post about a guy saying he's been friendzoned by dozens of women. He's attractive enough to get dates. But they don't want to get sexual with him or get into relationships. That's all about hi…
/r/AllPillDebate07/09/23 05:17 PM
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I think most women that say they like feminine men like the idea of a feminine man, but dealing with it in reality has more cons than pros for them. Like one ex I have said she liked one guy she was with because of the things you said. He gave her the emotional support she liked, but when it came time for her to do the same she said she felt like she was with another woman, and he wanted her to be like a mother. He couldn't figure out his problems and came to her for money and would have emotion…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 04:47 PM
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Well hell maybe I'm just assuming most guys are like me and don't complain. I'd assume a woman with a complaining guy would leave him pretty quick. Because what I described has been the relationship dynamic of all my relationships. I've literally had women say they lose attraction and end up breaking up with guys that complain too much. Which is why they'll tell me someone like me that they can depend on is refreshing. This is why I specified women that feel their man is a "good man" will be in …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 04:02 PM
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In the beginning maybe. But the reality of most relationships with women for men consists of managing her emotional state every day. She'll come home and rant about something that happened at work and her man has to make her feel the folks at work are wrong and don't see her worth. Then she says she couldn't sleep at night because she's worried about something and that man has to reassure her that everything is going to be alright. Yes that's not everyone's relationship dynamic. But I'd say when…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 02:30 PM
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I met my current GF in the grocery store. I was walking past her on the way to the coffee aisle. She said "Hey." I said "Hey" back. We've been kicking it ever since.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 03:43 AM
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Because these guys can't fathom a situation where a woman is genuinely attracted to them. It's absurd to them that some men could actually be with women that approached them first.
/r/AllPillDebate03/09/23 09:14 PM
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I come here to talk about sociology and cultural practices.
/r/AllPillDebate03/09/23 09:11 PM
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Guys that have never been with attractive women, or never been with women that were genuinely attracted to them are the ones that think attraction is the end all be all.
/r/AllPillDebate03/09/23 08:25 AM
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If this were true the world would be full of beautiful people. But it's not. You see attractive people with no children and unattractive people with tons of children.
/r/AllPillDebate03/09/23 07:28 AM
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Women don't like talking about "body count" because they know it's not just about men being insecure. Women even judge other women for "body count." One of the most often used insults a woman uses against another woman is to call her a "hoe, slut, tramp." That's basically saying that other woman has a high "body count."
/r/AllPillDebate31/08/23 09:11 AM
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What exactly do you think you disproved?
/r/AllPillDebate30/08/23 04:07 PM
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I learned this in my early 20s when I literally would grab my coworkers ass when I found out she was attracted to me. She'd just giggle. Later on this same girl went to HR on another guy for harassment because he'd try to talk to her every day. This is why in recent years, when I started seeing people say stuff like "don't approach women" I just laughed. Women love when men they're attracted to talk to them.
/r/AllPillDebate30/08/23 03:42 PM
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I’ve had women be the ones to tell me they didn’t want anything serious That’s what they say to guys that are attractive enough but have some other flaw that makes them not want anything serious with him. Often there’s something about his personality they don’t like. When a guy ticks all the boxes for that woman she’ll almost always want more than a one night stand.
/r/seduction28/08/23 06:20 PM
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it’s rare to see an ugly white guy unless he’s fat 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
/r/AllPillDebate27/08/23 10:23 PM
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Because this may sound crazy to you, but money actually matters more to men than women. Men that don’t have money but have a certain look and charisma don’t have a problem getting women. Men that don’t have looks or charisma think money is important because they notice they’re able to get women when they have money. They have to have money because they don’t have the looks or charisma.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 10:03 PM
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Who’s a “9 in black dudes?” If I had to guess I’d say your example would be someone with more Eurocentric features?
/r/AllPillDebate27/08/23 10:00 PM
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Where are your pics?
/r/AllPillDebate27/08/23 09:56 PM
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any man would also be a fool to try starting a relationship romantically or sexually with women before getting his paper right Not necessarily true. It mostly depends on the woman. Ones that care about money care about money, and the ones that don’t….don’t. It’s good to get your paper right because there’ll be women that start out not caring about your paper. They’ll be so attracted that money doesn’t matter. But oftentimes, as that relationship progresses she will start caring about it. That’s …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 09:26 PM
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I agree with all of this. I think people that have decided to have kids and raise a family together should probably just resign themselves to understanding that their sex life isn’t going to be as great as two people that are deciding to be together out of pure attraction and not familial obligation.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 04:21 PM
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You won’t get an argument with me on that. I’d never even attempt to talk to a woman romantically that wasn’t highly sexually attracted to me. All of my relationships have started with being super attracted sexually to each other. Any man that starts a relationship with a woman that isn’t really sexually attracted to him will soon notice all types of issues come up that wouldn’t be there if she was actually more attracted to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 04:17 PM
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It’s a waste of time trying to have this conversation with certain women. They’re always going to make a man’s preference for younger women out to be something nefarious. But you’re supposed to understand why they may want men with money.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 03:53 PM
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Probably being so introverted and antisocial that they can’t genuinely just enjoy talking to other people. So they fake it
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 11:51 AM
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Having the same hobbies and interests doesn’t matter. What matters is mutual attraction and interest and the desire and know how to act on it. For example I’ve been seeing someone for the past couple months but it was just yesterday when I found out she’s also an anime fan like me. That shows you really don’t need to know the person you’re involved with have the same interests. It’s really about two people thinking the other person is interesting and attractive, even if they’re not into the same…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 11:41 AM
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Because hanging with the buddies cannot compare to chilling with your girl, eating good food, laughing at the movie you’re watching, talking about your childhoods, kissing, then kissing some more, then having amazing sex and going to sleep naked, tangled in each others arms
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 12:05 PM
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I don’t believe in “dread game” as far as artificially creating distance in order to raise attraction. But a guy should actually have a life outside of his woman. Women are attracted to guys that seem like they’re out in the world doing things that have nothing to do with women or dating. One person explained it like women want the man that seems like he’s on an adventure and wants them (the woman) to come along with him. But they don’t want to be the “adventure.” A lot of guys mess up because t…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 11:24 PM
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They become too familiar. When you’re just dating and new that other person is “shiny,” meaning you usually always see them when they’re trying to impress you. When you live together you see all their flaws and inadequacies. They’re not that “shiny thing” anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 11:04 PM
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I think women inevitably lose attraction for men they live with. I saw someone say that when women have sex with a man they’re subconsciously saying “I want you to come back.” This is why when couples just get together they’re having sex whenever they see each other. They can’t keep their hands off each other. But once they start living together, having kids, etc, the sex dies down, and it’s usually the woman that starts wanting it less. The distance that exists between a new couple or people th…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 11:01 PM
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Women drive consumerism. Single men will live in an apartment with just a mattress and a tv. When they get in a relationship the woman comes in and redecorates and gets him to buy nice furniture. That’s money spent. A guy will also drive the same beat up car thats paid off but still works fine. Women come along and convince him to buy the latest model with all the bells and whistles. Consumerism. Corporations know these things. In order the biggest spenders are married couples>single women>singl…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 10:50 PM
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Nah I’d say a trash personality is being too shy or socially inept. I’m introverted, meaning I’m not going to go out of my way to strike up conversations with strangers or be real flamboyant. But when I’m in a conversation with someone I know how to be charming, funny, flirtatious, hold eye contact, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 07:11 PM
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Tbh I’d say every woman is a “hoe/slut” for the right guy. The problem most guys really have is she won’t be a slut for them. If you can’t get her is she really a big ol slut?
/r/AllPillDebate24/08/23 07:05 PM
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if anything male attention is a reason not to wear them Lmao I always wonder if women on Reddit realize that the majority of women don’t think like this. They love knowing that men see them as “hotter” than other women. The older they get the more they know how to tweak their appearance in order to get certain reactions from men and other women. They even know what types of men will approach or give them attention based on what they’re looking like that day. When women post sexy pics online they…
/r/AllPillDebate24/08/23 04:58 PM
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there aren’t any techniques for men who want to be masculine As far as the face goes, the technique for men to appear more “masculine” is growing older while staying relatively lean
/r/AllPillDebate24/08/23 03:52 PM
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I don’t think girls/women start out wearing leggings for male attention. But once they notice the attention they get for wearing them it gives them another reason to want to wear them.
/r/AllPillDebate24/08/23 03:30 PM
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I’m just here for the comments. A lot of women struggle to answer this because the woman they’d tell their son or brother to avoid is often just like them or their friends
/r/AllPillDebate24/08/23 03:27 PM
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I never said he was looking for you to provide for him. He was content panhandling or doing whatever else, and it was enough for him to live off of. He just wants you as a companion and sexual partner. You good with that?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 05:25 PM
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Yes gold diggers are a minority. But the majority of women care about a man’s income. A man’s money represents the types of experiences he can create with a woman. If you had a hypothetical situation where you had two men with the exact same personality, identical twins, except one was rich and one was poor, who do you think the majority of women would choose?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 05:21 PM
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You said a man’s money isn’t important to you or most women. So you’re fine with a broke dude as long as he’s full of love and tenderness
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 05:06 PM
-1

Would you marry a broke man who has no desire to work?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 01:14 PM
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No one has ever said every woman is exactly the same. These conversations are about generalities. Just like a person could say “people eat meat.” You personally could be a vegan, and you could have friends that are vegan. That doesn’t change the fact that the majority of people eat meat. Even the most independent woman is naturally drawn to a man that comes along and says “relax, let me make your life easier.” Women saying they want an “ambitious” man is just code for “he’s going to have the dri…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 01:12 PM
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How do you know you’re not the minority? I’ve never been with a “gold digging” woman. All the women I’ve been with genuinely liked me. But even with that, they’d tell me the fact that I was “generous and giving” made them love me even more.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 01:03 PM
2

Tell all your female friends to start paying for every date and pursuing men and see what they say
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 12:25 PM
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It isn’t. But what people say on social media is often what they wish was true for them. So women on Twitter that say a “real man” is a “provider” may not actually be with one. But they’re saying they wish they were. And the fact that in general women feel men should pay for dates and be the pursuer shows that women think men should be “providers.”
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 12:08 PM
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Look on instagram, Twitter, TikTok, etc. Ask men about their experiences
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 12:03 PM
0

You’re not looking. The thread you’re literally replying in is created by one.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 11:59 AM
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A lot of women have humped a rich man. What they won’t tell anyone is those rich men just wanted to hump them and send them back where they came from. And when those women move like that it ultimately just makes them less attractive to the men that actually would want to stick around and commit to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 11:52 AM
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To feminist women “submissiveness” basically means “being nice to a man,” or doing things that would’ve been done by traditional wives back in the day.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 11:45 AM
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You do see women today regularly say things like “if we split bills we’re just roommates, if we go 50/50 don’t expect submissiveness, I can do bad all by myself, why have a man if you still have to struggle, etc.” Basically saying if the man isn’t paying for everything then that woman is not going to be as agreeable as she would be if he were paying for everything. There’s a whole “soft girl era” tag where women talk about out their dream is to be able to lay back and not have to worry about wor…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 11:35 AM
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And I think the problem OP is saying exists is she’ll treat Chad better than she treats someone she claims to actually love
/r/AllPillDebate23/08/23 05:38 AM
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Here’s the thing…. When you chase after women that don’t know you from Adam, and you don’t know them, and you’re telling them how beautiful they are, you should expect them to use that “beauty” as a bargaining chip. I’ve dated many women, and was married once. The women that I pursued and wanted more than they wanted me, eventually felt like I should jump thru hoops for them. The women that I let come to me first never were like that. They never asked me to jump thru hoops. They actually were ju…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 06:01 PM
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Here’s a little secret…. White woken are genuinely attracted to white men….but the other women (especially Latinas and block women) you might see with white men, it often isn’t because of pure physical attraction. It’s often because they see white men as a meal ticket or status symbol. I’ve literally had nonwhite women say things like “if I dated that white man that tried to flirt with me I’d have all my bills paid.”
/r/AllPillDebate20/08/23 09:48 AM
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Yeah but if you’re a guy that she feels is actually worth something and isn’t easily replaceable she’ll make things easier for you.
/r/AllPillDebate19/08/23 02:41 PM
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Man, I had a girl from a whole other country that I was in a Facebook group with DM me because she found out my zodiac sign and said men with that zodiac sign are always “interesting.” Then she added “and you’re also handsome” lmao. Women are always extra friendly with guys they think are good looking. I noticed it at different jobs too. Women were always open to going on lunch and breaks with me even if I didn’t try to date them.
/r/AllPillDebate18/08/23 05:17 PM
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I agree. This is why I say women are gaslighting when they say they don’t see why their mate might not want them having male friends. Because most of the time them seeing that guy as attractive is part of the reason they’re even “friends.”
/r/AllPillDebate18/08/23 04:31 PM

It’s not about being scared or insecure. You want to know is the person you may potentially get into a relationship with the relationship type of person, or are they the casual sex jumping from person to person type? Saying men that care about this are “insecure” is just a way to shame guys into not talking about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 08:54 PM
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Disagree. One ex I have ended up breaking up because she’s more of the career driven, I want a house, social climber type. I’m more laidback and a let’s have fun type. But even after we broke up, 4 months later she reached out to me to take me out to lunch for my birthday. Afterwards we got a hotel room and spent the night together. So the attraction was still there. Even now that it’s a couple years later I feel if we saw each other it would be the same. She always said I knew exactly how to se…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 04:06 PM
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Imo you really can’t judge how a woman looks unless you’re judging her with a fresh face, straight out of the shower. How a woman looks with makeup and her hair all done isn’t the real her
/r/AllPillDebate17/08/23 11:33 AM
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Lmao not always. An actually good looking charismatic younger guy doesn’t have a problem getting younger women. The guys that can’t are usually the socially awkward unattractive guys. But guess what? The good looking charismatic guy that’s older will still be more attractive to older women than the socially awkward unattractive younger guy. When I was younger I got involved with an older woman. But I was also dating girls my own age. That’s how it works. Guys that are attractive at a younger age…
/r/AllPillDebate16/08/23 10:22 AM
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Denial is not just a river in Egypt
/r/AllPillDebate16/08/23 08:36 AM
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Most guys don’t even want skinny women. They just don’t want obese women. Also, you can actually lose weight. Men can’t magically grow taller. If all men wanted women with blue eyes I’d say that’s unrealistic. But wanting women that are a healthy weight isn’t unrealistic at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 01:31 PM
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Tbh women do the same thing when they get a man. All the women I’ve been with would ditch their friends and stop doing things with them in favor of doing things with me instead
/r/AllPillDebate15/08/23 01:12 PM
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Most women today are misandrist. I literally saw a Twitter thread where a woman said “something doesn’t sit right with me about men.” All the women commenting agreed. Some even said they dislike men so much they wish they were lesbian so they wouldn’t have to deal with men at all. There were a few that called out the misandry though. But you’d never see men say they hate women so much they wish they were gay.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 01:09 PM
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It’s utterly bizarre that you think people in these forums are speaking in absolutes. We’re speaking in generalities. In general, I’d say women are less likely to compromise on looks because they actually do get attention from men that meet their looks standards. Men are more likely to compromise on looks because they know they know there’s tons of competition for the most beautiful women, and because of that those women can be harder to deal with. So a guy that wants a woman he can actually get…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 01:05 PM
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I’d say men focus more on personality standards than physical standards. Men might be harshly against promiscuous women but will compromise their standards if a great woman happens to have a few extra pounds
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 12:44 PM
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The reason why people say wanting a guy over 6ft will have you single and alone is because there literally are not enough men that tall for every woman that says she wants one
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 12:40 PM
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Other men look at those men as lames though. They’re the guy that falls in love with the hooker after everyone else has run a train on her
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 07:55 AM
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Other men look at those guys as clowns
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 07:52 AM
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Jealous and bitter because women can do sex work??? Lmaoooooooo
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 07:51 AM
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I disagree that women are actually attracted to assholes. They’re attracted to attractive men. And since “pretty privelege” is real, attractive men will have a tendency to be assholes because they’ve lived a life of getting preferential treatment based on the fact they’re attractive. For example I’ve literally seen tall guys be flabbergasted and throw a hissy fit when a woman turns them down. Like “how could you not want me?!? I’m 6’5”!!!”
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 01:50 PM
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I would agree with you if men were saying they don’t want an average woman. But they’re not. It’s women that say “average men aren’t good enough.”
/r/AllPillDebate12/08/23 02:16 PM
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I wonder do women that have this mentality ever realize they’re insulting their own fathers, grandfathers, and all the other men in their ancestry
/r/AllPillDebate12/08/23 11:19 AM
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There’s no amount of buddies and friendships that can replace what you get from a happy healthy intimate relationship with someone. People that say they do are gaslighting
/r/AllPillDebate10/08/23 03:21 PM
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Extinct
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 02:11 PM
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I didn’t really mind calling men out. They wouldn’t jump on me for it Men don’t do “cancel culture” unless you’re actually doing something harmful to someone. If we have different opinions on something I may think you’re wrong or foolish, but we can still work together and get along. Women are more prone to totally disregarding and distancing themselves from people that have different views or opinions than them.
/r/AllPillDebate10/08/23 01:48 PM
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Think about it in terms of survival and evolution. Women literally cannot in general survive childbirth if they don’t have people helping them. And taking care of an infant alone is extremely more difficult than doing it with a support system around you. So women evolved to “get along” and form communities so they can help each other. This is why you’re far less likely to see “loner” women. They actually enjoy feeling like part of a group. This means that they’ll be more prone to not share thoug…
/r/AllPillDebate10/08/23 01:06 PM
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But you’ll see women brag about all the men in the DM’s
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 03:21 PM
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I agree. And I’d say this is why women don’t really, in general, have an issue getting with a man they know has been with a lot of women. Because the fact that he’s been with women is proof that he knows how to create that arousal, and is good at it. But for men it’s the opposite. A woman that’s promiscuous has been able to be aroused easily by a lot of men. This is also why, when I saw a woman ask how she can seduce a certain guy, I laughed and told her if she had to seduce a man she might as w…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 03:16 PM
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A man that makes average money and is there to help raise his child is still better than no man at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 08:46 PM
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Exactly. The only people that don’t realize that women sleep with the guys they’d actually want to be in relationships with are women I guess. A while back I made a comment in here that all the women I’d slept with at least two times always wanted a relationship with me. The women in here said they didn’t believe that. But it’s true. The woman I’m seeing now I told I was seeing another woman when we met. She said it was cool and she just wanted to “get to know me.” And she said she wasn’t surpri…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 07:50 PM
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He gave up his rights when he busted that nut inside of her. He “gave” her his seed. When you give something away you don’t get to tell the person you gave it to what to do with it. She can take his thoughts into consideration when she decides what to do with it. But the ultimate decision is hers.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 06:58 PM
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That’s the most selfish narcissistic thing I’ve ever heard. Fuck that child having a father I guess, even though we can see the issues that can come when a child is raised by a single mother
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 06:37 PM
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I know a woman with 2 kids, and both fathers said they didn’t want the baby when she told them. Guess what happened? One child is 17 and her father never did anything for her. And one is 7 and his father never did anything for him. That father did actually go thru with getting married to her but it only lasted two years. It’s true that men will treat the child according to how they feel about the mother. If they’re not really in love with the mother it’s going to be a struggle to get them to rea…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 06:31 PM
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I also think they want men to think they can “do what men do.” And they hate that some of us are smart and experienced enough to know that’s rarely true.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 06:21 PM
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Seriously. When you see some of the things guys type in here and imagine that’s their communication style, it’s really not surprising at all that they struggle with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 05:48 PM
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I agree that men should try to initiate sex, but not too forcefully. But this is because in my experience women love it when they feel the man they’re with sees them as sexy and irresistible. But if you need to have sex with a woman for her to open up and give you a “glimpse into who she is” it’s because you’re not connecting and making her feel comfortable when the two of you just talk. Most women, when they’re comfortable, will tell you everything about themselves. Their whole life story and e…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 05:46 PM
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Yeah that “won’t be a good boyfriend” thing comes from the disappointment of wishing that he was. He’s at least a topic of conversation though. He’s in her mind. She wishes that he would change those lil things that make him bad as a boyfriend. While other guys aren’t even mentioned
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 02:48 PM
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They like the privelege and optics of being way taller than the woman they’re with. A woman shorter than you is more likely to give them “God” treatment because she’s so happy to be with a guy that much taller than her.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 01:35 PM
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I’m 5’9” and recently dated a 5’10” woman. Had no issues. She’s slim though. But if a woman is taller and bigger it just seems mismatched to me. I’m not a skinny guy, so if a woman is taller but slim she still looks smaller. I have wide shoulders. You look at us and I still look stronger. But when a little skinny guy dates a woman that’s also slim but taller, or a woman that’s taller and bigger, she could look stronger than him. I think a man’s personality also plays into it. Just yesterday I wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 01:25 PM

So your response to anyone that actually explains how life works is “get help” because it’s too harsh for you to digest? Okay. My comment about not caring was because you’re saying women will have sex with that guy but laugh behind his back. I’m saying that doesn’t matter if he’s already got what he wants from you. It’s like laughing at someone for buying a car you were selling for 20k. But they were actually willing to pay 25k. They still got what they wanted for a bargain
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 01:06 PM

Yeah and you don’t grasp the fact that he won’t care if you laugh at him behind his back if you’re moaning under him in bed. It’s like women saying they’re not “submissive” and won’t fix a man a sandwich but they’ll get down on their knees and suck and fuck whenever he wants. That’s actually MORE submissive than fixing a damn sandwich lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 01:01 PM

I’ve been called a fuckboy and never sent a dick pic in my life. Actually had one girl mad at me because I didn’t want to
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 12:58 PM

Not at all. Some “fuckboys” have never sent a dick pic in their life. Fuckboy strictly means a guy that women want to sleep with.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 12:39 PM

He was a lame. The reason they clowned him wasn’t because of the women he was with. It was because he’s a lame. Every guy that gets women isn’t a lame
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 12:37 PM
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Men that can get casual sex are the men women actually want relationships with
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 12:36 PM
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I wouldn’t say it’s virtuous, but every woman that wanted to sleep with me wanted a relationship with me. Guys that women don’t want to sleep with aren’t seen as either
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 12:34 PM

Dude you have it easy lmao. I’m only 5’9” and I don’t really struggle with women. But I see how dudes that are taller can have absolutely zero personality and have women look at them with 😍 and at least give them a chance. But wtbs, they’ll get the chance but they still have to perform. I’ve had women that will say a particular tall guy was bad in bed, so it was a one and done. But just being tall got him in the door to get the vagina.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 10:09 PM
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In hunter gatherer societies you don’t see any correlation with taller men being seen as “better.” Being a good hunter doesn’t require height. And I literally just saw a video where Mike Tyson knocked out a guy that was at least a few inches taller than him in 17 seconds. The height obsession is about aesthetics and status and not about taller men being more capable.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 02:57 PM
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i maintain that IRL women’s standards are much more flexible than what they say, on dating apps especially I agree. This is why I say dating apps are only good for men that fit the superficial standards women say they want. Men that don’t fit those standards can be just as successful, but it takes meeting women irl more than thru dating apps
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 02:53 PM
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Right. If you’re 6’+ and still can’t get women your personality must be dreadful
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 06:36 AM
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Right. If you’re 6’+ and still can’t get women your personality must be dreadful
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 06:35 AM
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They want Chad to actually want a relationship with them. Not just to jump up and down on them but choose to be in a relationship with another woman who he actually values
/r/AllPillDebate07/08/23 02:07 AM
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Yeah for a while. Then they realize they’re just a glorified human fleshlight if that’s all he wants
/r/AllPillDebate07/08/23 02:01 AM
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I know what each means. Sane women know that just being sexually valued isn’t anything special. So a lot of guys that wanna bust a quick nut want to fuck? And? What’s most important for women is their relationship market value.
/r/AllPillDebate07/08/23 01:55 AM
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When a young guy dates an older woman do men say you shouldn’t date older women, son?” When an older guy dates younger women do men say “leave those younger women that like you alone?” No they mind their own business. If two people like each other people should mind their own business about their relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 02:21 PM
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No it’s not. That’s actually how things have always been. The men of a family looked after and protected the women of that family. This world where men are supposed to look after and protect all women is new and the result of women being “independent” while still needing men’s protection.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 01:57 PM
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Cool story
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 01:21 PM
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SMV for a woman doesn’t really mean much because men will fuck the easiest, most available woman. Just because men will sleep with a woman it doesn’t mean those men actually value her
/r/AllPillDebate06/08/23 01:16 PM
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Smart women know that being seen as just someone that can help a man bust a nut isn’t really valuable
/r/AllPillDebate06/08/23 01:14 PM
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older women are not trying to date younger men like that be real Yeah I know. Because they like older men. And if a younger woman comes onto me am I “creepy” if I go along with it?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 01:11 PM
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A young single woman or a young woman in a relationship? And it’s still being a busybody. It’s like telling someone they shouldn’t date interracially. Mind your business. Date who you want and don’t worry about who other people want to date. But some women can’t resist sharing their unwanted opinions about what someone else does that has nothing to do with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 01:10 PM
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Lmaoooooooo women hate other women. No one slut shames and body shames a woman like another woman
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 10:33 AM
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These “stats” and posts are always made because older women feel that men liking younger women is some sort of a diss to older women. Notice it’s always older women saying age gap relationships are bad. You don’t see the younger women in age gap relationships complaining, you don’t see younger men with older women complaining, and you don’t see older men with younger women complaining. It’s just the older women specifically vilifying older man-younger woman relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 10:32 AM
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People don’t usually know the person’s age they’re attracted to before they grow attracted to them. If a woman is attracted to a man and he’s attracted to her they’re not going to deny the attraction just because there’s an age difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 10:28 AM
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A lot of them have remote “work from home” type jobs that really only require them to have computer equipment and an internet connection. Contrary to what people may think they’re not really “broke” guys
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 09:17 PM
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It wasn’t the primary goal. The primary goal was an American woman. But if American women aren’t giving them what they need or want and there’s another woman somewhere else that will what should they do?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 09:14 PM
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The difference is that doesn’t bother American men. It does bother American women though.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 09:07 PM
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It almost makes me sick to my stomach when I see guys say “I know I’m attractive. Why don’t women approach me?!?” Sounding just like a chick lmao
/r/AllPillDebate04/08/23 05:30 PM
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I agree. If you really read between the lines of a lot these guys they really want to be treated like the “bad bitches” they see get all the attention. They want women to throw themselves at them the way men pursue women. They say the modern lifestyle and diets are making men more feminine and I’d say this kind of shows it. If a woman finds me attractive enough to approach first that’s great. But that’s not going to make me be stupid and think that should be the norm.
/r/AllPillDebate04/08/23 05:24 PM
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It means “He’s attractive but his personality makes me think he couldn’t sexually please me.” OR they could be lying and don’t actually see their male friends as attractive. But they’ll never say that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 05:13 PM
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How does being a traditional man benefit men?
/r/AllPillDebate04/08/23 01:20 PM
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Women want traditional men yet still dress and act like single women. We can do this all day
/r/AllPillDebate04/08/23 12:21 PM
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casual sex loses its allure after a handful of partners You said all that just to basically agree with me. After a while that woman that loved casual sex always becomes a woman that wants a relationship. And I disagree about women seeing men as “easy available dick.” There are countless videos of women saying they grow bonded to the men they have sex with even if it’s casual.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 12:01 PM
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Find women that are genuinely into you. They won’t drain an inordinate amount of your time. They’ll try to fit into whatever lifestyle you already have going on
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 10:43 AM
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there is a select group that come out on the other side bitter I’d say that’s the majority. Every woman I know that had a “wild” phase has told me they eventually started to feel empty when they realized all the guys they were with often just saw them as easy, available vagina
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 06:47 PM
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My point still stands. You say sex has such a deep meaning to you? What makes you think a woman will feel that experience will be “special” with you if you “don’t have time to talk to women?” The women that have told me sex with me feels “special” are women I talk to and spend time with ALL the time. Sometimes for hours. It takes time, communication, and connection to build the intimate connection up to the point where sex feels special
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 01:41 PM
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There are people that told Newton he was wrong about gravity. Doesn’t mean they were right though. I’ve never heard or seen a woman complaining about not being able to get casual sex. What I have seen though, is women complaining about men not wanting to commit. What does that tell you about which one they value most?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 08:32 PM
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I'm too busy to talk to women and sex is a hugely important thing for me That's like saying "I love driving my car but I don't have time to stop at a gas station."
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 05:07 PM
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do people think that men who aren't successful at dating apps have better luck at cold approaching? I'm one. I've never used dating apps, but I have had women tell me they don't like my social media pictures look at me with 😍 when they meet me in person. In general, I just don't like taking pictures and that probably comes across in pictures I take. But women always tell me I'm handsome. As far as "cold approaching" goes, I've had women that I start talking to somewhere and five minutes later I …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 05:03 PM
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Seduction is still important. A woman can be mildly interested or attracted, but what you want is for her to be highly interested and attracted. That's where seduction comes in. She can be interested but if you're conversation is dry, you're not charismatic, you don't provoke her to think, then she'll lose interest. There's a saying that if you get a woman's mind her body will follow. All "seduction" is is raising that mental attraction.
/r/seduction02/08/23 03:30 PM
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LMAO idk I haven't seen it. But I'm just saying his car, career, and house aren't the issue. I've literally had women that made more money than me, that would drive almost two hours on Friday night to my place because I told them my car might not be able to make the drive to theirs. Why did they do that? Because to them weekends with me were "fun and exciting." For women to look past your shortcomings in the areas he named a guy has to actually be fun and exciting to that woman.
/r/AllPillDebate01/08/23 10:57 PM
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Nah. A man will have sex with a woman he wants nothing to do with long-term. But if a woman has regular sex with a man it's almost a 99% chance that she'd want to actually be with him long-term. There are women in here that will tell you they don't want a relationship and they enjoy hooking up. But those are Reddit outlier chicks. The vast majority of women do not enjoy hooking up with different dudes all the time. They want consistent, regular good sex with one guy. And they want movie nights, …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 10:45 PM
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If a dude can get sex he can definitely get a woman to marry him.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 08:02 PM
5

Like being super macho in the "I'm a man you need to submit to me!" sense. Men should understand that if you're doing what you need to do women will naturally "submit" without you feeling like you have to force it. One girl told me one guy she was talking to the phone and messaging for a while asked her "What are we?" They'd never even went out or hung out together. That hinted at desperation and neediness. It can be numerous things. Just not being "cool." Women want to feel like the man she's w…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 05:21 PM
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I've said this ad nauseam but they're not going to believe it. Because they know some guy that they see as an who gets love from women. Little do they know that this guy is Prince Charming/Casanova with women. He's just an asshole with other guys.
/r/AllPillDebate01/08/23 05:01 PM
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Unfortunately, that's a big reason. But there's also a huge group of people that are attractive enough, but when they actually talk to someone who sees them as a possible option, their weird personality or conversational style throws the other person off and they don't see them as all that attractive anymore. I've talked to women about this on multiple occasions. They always say guys biggest problem is personality. And not just vague "it's his personality" stories. They give me specific things t…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 09:55 AM
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I hope one day a woman will look past my career, past my car, past my house and just goes "This man is fun and exciting to be around and we have so many common interests he's like my best friend" What would make her feel you're "fun and exciting" if you don't share fun and exciting experiences together? Fun and exciting experiences that make a woman feel close to a man will usually involve money and sex. Women aren't men. What often makes them feel close to a man is feeling safe and protected. F…
/r/AllPillDebate01/08/23 09:44 AM
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Yeah blame everyone and everything but yourself….
/r/AllPillDebate01/08/23 01:32 AM
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I’m not 6ft so I must be 8/10. Because women definitely don’t hate me. Guys don’t realize when they say stuff like this it screams “I have the trashiest of trash personalities or no style, etc.” Because everyone with at least one eye can see guys that aren’t 6ft and aren’t 8/10 with women.
/r/AllPillDebate01/08/23 01:24 AM
1

Exactly. Get into her mind and her body follows
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 08:01 AM
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someone with 7 inches will be better in bed than a guy with 6.3 inches You sound like you’ve never been with a woman
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 07:54 AM
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I’d say that if you asked men what makes a woman “good” at sex they’ll talk about her willingness and enthusiasm to want to please us, not necessarily her technique. You don’t need experience to be willing and enthusiastic. But what makes a man “good” at sex to women has a lot to do with technique. So he might be “better” at sex the more experience he has.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 09:19 PM
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Women desire men who are desired by other women This. I was just in a store with the woman I’m seeing and when this one group of women and girls walked past us she made it a point to talk about how they were checking me out. Said something about “oh look at them with their eyes on you.” It’s almost like she was happy about it. I didn’t even notice but she did, and said women can always tell when other women think their man is attractive. As a man I can tell when other guys think my girl is attra…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 09:15 PM
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Because they’re women. The main thing men are attracted to is beauty. But women love men that are useful. A man that can do things. So just being a “pretty” guy that takes pictures making faces and posing comes across as feminine.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 01:02 PM
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A girl I was dating surprised me when she said I was a “bad boy.” I don’t have a criminal record. I’m a regular working stiff. So I asked her to explain what made me a “bad boy.” She said it was because I had a backbone. I didn’t just tell her whatever she wanted to hear or do whatever she wanted me to do. I wasn’t afraid to make her mad or argue with her about things. So the “bad” in “bad boy” doesn’t mean the guy is actually a “bad guy.” It moreso means he’s uncooperative and stubborn.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 02:15 AM
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I’m a black man in the US. I’ve noticed this the most with young white couples.(Gen Z). It’s the norm to see mediocre looking young white women with these super tall, gq model looking white dudes. Edit: I don’t mean these guys are literally gq models. I’m saying they’re clearly more attractive than the women they’re with.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 01:36 AM
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It’s not nonsense though. Women have some men that they see as good providers and responsible men, but they don’t illicit the same sexual attraction as other guys, and they have other men that they feel are more sexually attractive. I know this is true because I’ve been the second guy. I’ve literally seen messages a woman I’m sleeping with gets from guys begging to go out. Women will literally say “yeah this guy will send me money or do anything I say, but I know sex with him would be wack.” Wha…
/r/AllPillDebate29/07/23 12:58 AM
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You’re not doing what they want you to do. You’re not being who they think you should be.
/r/AllPillDebate29/07/23 12:53 AM
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Yup. A clingy woman can be a little complicated to deal with sometimes. But I definitely prefer that over a woman that acts like she doesn’t care if I’m in her life or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 07:02 PM
1

5’8-9”. Somewhere around there.
/r/AllPillDebate28/07/23 04:03 PM
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All women are “clingy” when they really like a guy Edit: correction. I take that back. All women aren’t clingy. But the ones that aren’t will be with a guy that cheats on them or leaves for a woman that is more “clingy.”
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 09:26 PM
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I never create posts. Just comment. I think I’m a regular dude. I’ve been married and divorced and I’m in a relationship now. I really only get on here while I’m killing time at work. On weekends and on my own time you won’t catch me in here.
/r/AllPillDebate27/07/23 07:28 PM

Agree. Men will always have a better experience with a woman that feels like he’s the best guy she can get, whether that’s lookswise or how he treats her. Women that feel they can replace you easily will inevitably give you problems. And I think the fact that men are attracted to such a wide variety of women with different looks, shapes, etc, lends itself to this. Guys that chase “baddies” are always miserable and complaining about her not acting right. One guy I know actually says “baddies” nee…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 03:47 PM
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Exactly. Women in here aren’t admitting that every “hot” guy they sleep with is a guy they could see themselves being with. They hope he doesn’t do something to mess up that vision of him they have. And that’s where personality comes into play. The guy she sleeps with but doesn’t want to be with has personality flaws. The guy she sleeps with and wants to be with has the total package. While men will sleep with women that we know beforehand isn’t “good enough” looks-wise or personality-wise.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 12:06 PM
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The difference is men will bang a woman they know they don’t want beforehand. With women, they hope the hot guy they want to bang is relationship material. But they find out either before or after that he isn’t. But just the fact that they’d bang him means they see him as attractive enough to be with. Men will bang a woman they don’t see as attractive enough to be with.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 12:00 PM
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It’s been true for me. Every woman I’ve slept with wanted a relationship with me. Tbh if a woman sleeps with a man it’s almost always because she’d be open to a relationship with him. Men will sleep with a woman and know he never wants to see her again even before he does the deed.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 09:21 AM
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If that 5’6” guy could get a girl why can’t this other 5’6” guy get a girl?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 08:06 PM
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What are they actually doing to get complimented on though? I have a unique hairstyle. I get complimented on it. I have a collection of colognes. I get compliments about how good I smell. I wear colorful shirts that you don’t see a lot of guys wear. I get complimented. A lot of guys just don’t do anything to stand out from the crowd.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 07:28 PM
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Men shouldn’t worry about all women. They should focus on the ones that actually would pursue them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 04:03 PM
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Bullshit. Even when the attraction is true you need “game” to keep things from getting stale and boring. A girl I’ve been seeing recently approached me first in a store. That was “true attraction.” But once we started talking, if I wasn’t witty and fun and flirtatious and interesting to talk to she would’ve lost interest. She was attracted physically at first, but actually talking to me and being around me raised that attraction. That’s all “game” is.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 03:35 PM
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Why would you even want a vapid simple minded chick that’s into those guys?
/r/AllPillDebate26/07/23 01:17 PM
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I saw a Twitter thread where the person started out saying something about “men in grocery stores.” The funny thing is people were saying it wasn’t believable because men don’t shop or cook. They survive off wing stop and chick fil a lmao. I thought it was ridiculous that that’s the view of men because I’ve always preferred home cooked food over takeout. I keep a Costco and Sam’s membership because I love buying and cooking food. But I’m in my 40s…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 01:03 PM
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Because men are so damn thirsty a woman can sit back and be as mediocre as she wants and still have men begging for her time and attention. It’s men’s fault that women don’t have to do much. How can men change this? By strictly giving their time, attention, and resources to women that pursue them just as much or even more than they pursue her. By only dealing with women that show them every day how much they appreciate them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 12:55 PM
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When I see all the young guys that are hooked on porn, can’t talk to women, can’t dress, and don’t do anything to stand out from other guys part of me does say “well more for me I guess.” Millionaires feel the same way when they see people afraid to take the risks it takes to get rich. Everything OP said can be summed up with “do what it takes to stand out from the crowd.” But when you tell these guys to develop their personal style instead of wearing the same thing every other guy wears you get…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 12:52 PM
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Are you talking about who women are “very often seen around” or your own experience? Because I’m talking about my own experience and people I know. I’m not the “dumb fuck boy” or the “successful cold man.” I guess out of all the things you listed in the “perfect man” I’d be handsome, kind of fun to be around (I’m not a jokester but I have a dry sarcastic smart aleck humor), good with people, and please them in and outside of bed. I’ve seen cold successful men get rejected all the time because wo…
/r/AllPillDebate25/07/23 08:38 PM
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When women I know have said they like a guys “personality” it’s moreso about him being fun to be around, making her laugh, and being interesting to talk to. Not that he’s agreeable and behaves like she wants. Some of the women that have said they like my personality the most are the ones I have the most heated debates and conversations with.
/r/AllPillDebate25/07/23 07:20 PM
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Idk about 5’3” though….
/r/AllPillDebate25/07/23 07:18 PM
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Men don’t like large breasts nearly as much as women like tall men. I’ve been with big titty women and I’ve been with small titty women. I liked both equally. What really mattered to me was ready and willing vagina
/r/AllPillDebate25/07/23 07:17 PM
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What didn’t you just say “as a human being you shouldn’t date if you’re broke?”
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 07:07 PM
1

Lmaaaaooooo y’all swear every guy is a pickup artist out here manipulating women. Some guys just “pick up” the women that already want to be “picked up” by them
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 07:05 PM
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You have to be realistic. If you were a guy and you saw you when you were out would you be so wowed by you that you’d want to get freaky on the spot? Guys that elicit that response from women get the majority of casual sex. The rest are serial monogamists
/r/AllPillDebate25/07/23 05:31 PM
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If you’re not the Chad type don’t expect casual sex. You’d be better off trying to get into a relationship
/r/AllPillDebate25/07/23 05:13 PM
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It depends. You can say dumb shit but you can’t be too awkward or cringy or lame. When a woman sees a guy she says “oh he’s attractive.” Then when she talks to him and is around him she’s thinking “can he fuck me the way I need and like to be fucked?” If a guy is super awkward or nervous around a woman she’s going to think he won’t be able to satisfy her sexually, no matter how attractive he is physically. That’s the main difference between the “nice guy” and “bad boy.” It’s not how they look. T…
/r/AllPillDebate25/07/23 03:01 PM
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Do you know how many times I’ve seen attractive guys get laughed into oblivion because a woman approaches them or they approach a woman, then they open their mouth and say some lame shit? Tons. Just being attractive isn’t enough. That’s just bait. Your personality and the experience and how she feels with you are the hook.
/r/AllPillDebate25/07/23 02:51 PM
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Even if they’re not short and unattractive a lot of guys just don’t stand out from other guys in the way they talk, dress, personality, etc. They’re like a random NPC in a video game. The guys that are successful with women are like the main character in a video game. One way or another they just know how to stand out from other guys.
/r/AllPillDebate25/07/23 02:35 PM
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I’ve attracted women at Target, Walmart, grocery stores, the car wash, etc. None of them saw me as the “desperate guy hunting women.” Because that wasn’t my purpose for being in those places. I was there handling business like everyone else. I didn’t go there looking for women. I just happened to meet attractive interesting women that felt I was interesting while I was there.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 02:26 PM
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Lovebombing, being mysterious, playing “games,” etc. You can do it. Women say they hate these things but constantly fall for guys that do these things. To me it’s actually easier to be that type of guy than to actually be the stable guy with his life together. That actually takes work. Being the “bad boy” is easy. Like seriously one girl told me her favorite movie was the Notebook and she felt like she was Rachel Mcadams character and I was Ryan Gosling. So what did I do? Lean more into my “inte…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 02:11 PM
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Basically they don’t have anything about them that makes them stand out from other guys
/r/AllPillDebate25/07/23 02:08 PM
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I’ve been said there’s nothing “wrong” with most guys. But to attract women’s attention you have to stand out from other guys in a good way. That’s where a lot of guys fall short. There’s nothing different, special, or unique about them compared to other guys. In the animal kingdom you have peacocks that grow these bright, extravagant feathers to attract females. The female peafowls have basic brown feathers. Humans are sort of the same. A lot of women have similar styles and looks. This is why …
/r/AllPillDebate25/07/23 02:05 PM
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i don’t know why men here have that idea Because they’re too awkward and nervous to actually approach and talk to women unless they’re in a group setting or have a “wingman.”
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 01:00 AM
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a loner hunting women in Target is obviously desperate What is this “hunting women?” There’s a difference between “a loner hunting women” and the interesting guy that just happens to be in Target at the same time shopping.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 12:56 AM
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Exactly. You can tell by the way some people talk in here they really don’t know about actually attracting women. Pretty much all the women I ever attracted it wasn’t because of a social group or “social proof.” It was me talking to that woman one on one and drawing her to me on my own with what I said and how I made her feel. Most of the time they don’t know or care anything about my social group. In fact, the mysteriousness actually piques their interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 12:53 AM
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I have no social circle. And I’ve been successful as the guy at the grocery store or Target. The bottom line is, if you form a connection and the conversation is flowing and she thinks you’re interesting and attractive, she’s going to assume you must have a good social circle. Because how could this charismatic, good looking, interesting man not be well liked by people wherever he goes? Having that mouthpiece and presence is crucial.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 12:44 AM
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Both statements are true. But it’s not a flex as a woman to just be able to sleep with men who will sleep with anyone. But pretty much all decent guys, if they have the basics, can find a woman to marry pretty quick if they wanted to. She might not be the sexy “baddie” they want, but she’ll be a woman who can actually appreciate having a man and see how she benefits him and how he benefits her. The chick just fucking different dudes gets no benefits whatsoever besides an occasional orgasm
/r/AllPillDebate24/07/23 02:07 PM
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You never can totally know why a woman is really with you. That’s why I only deal with women that never ask me for money. They may not think I’m an Adonis, but at least I know they feel I’m attractive enough that they don’t need monetary compensation for fucking me
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 06:54 PM
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Height is definitely a cheat code. I recently saw a dating show where a woman that was 5’1” said she preferred men over 6’. But she’d also dated a guy 5’8”. Her 6’6” ex constantly cheated on her so they broke up. The 5’8” guy didn’t cheat and treated her great. But she said they didn’t last because “it just didn’t work out.” There’s truth to the idea that women are “dumb” for tall men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 06:47 PM
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I consider myself short (5’8-9”) and don’t have issues. I’ve dated women actually a little taller than me. One guy I went to school with is probably about 5’4” and has a baddie that he’s been with since high school. But he was serious about having a great career and accomplishments even back then. And she was beautiful but traditional. I’d say if you’re short nowadays trying to date black women you have to have a flamboyant charismatic personality. You can’t just be the quiet dude and expect wom…
/r/AllPillDebate21/07/23 01:29 PM
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Black men that can’t get black women are definitely lames, feminine, corny, etc. You put them side by side with the black men that black women actually like and it’s no comparison. I see a lot of these “high value” black dudes complain about women on podcasts and all I keep thinking is “the women that fuck with me wouldn’t even like you even with all your money.” I see guys talk about their accomplishments and I just think “dude the way you talk is not gonna attract black women. You’re corny/bor…
/r/AllPillDebate21/07/23 12:30 PM
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There’s no culture or society that exists where one gender is just objectively “better” than the other. They’re a reflection of each other. If men are trash women are trash. If women are trash men are trash.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 12:26 PM
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I wouldn’t say that. When I was married my wife loved watching me play GTA 5 and Fallout 3. I think women that have an issue with their dude playing video games are really trying to say he doesn’t spend enough time or attention with them. When a guy does that women don’t have an issue with video games from what I’ve seen. Some guys will be playing video games and their girl is sitting there horny. That’s a no no lol
/r/AllPillDebate20/07/23 03:56 PM
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If anything I friendzoned her. She came at me first. Didn’t know I was older. She’s in another country. There’s enough women here that I don’t need to pursue one from another country
/r/AllPillDebate20/07/23 12:49 PM
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I dont date 18yr olds. When I say younger women I mean 10-15yrs younger. I’ve actually never dated women that aren’t raised in a two parent household
/r/AllPillDebate20/07/23 12:46 PM
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Nah I don’t date this chick and never tried to. I’m talking about stories she’s told me over the years about guys she’s dated.
/r/AllPillDebate20/07/23 12:42 PM
1

I’ve been with younger women that never asked for a dime. They just loved being around me
/r/AllPillDebate20/07/23 12:39 PM
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You say younger women are gullible but I find older women are easier to get than younger women.
/r/AllPillDebate20/07/23 12:26 PM
1

Nobody said that. But a 40yr old man who was attractive to women when he was 25 is still going to be attractive to women of all ages if he keeps himself up. The 40yr old incel was never attractive to women of any age.
/r/AllPillDebate20/07/23 12:24 PM
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Jesus Christ you’re dense. What I’m saying is when men are REALLY attracted to a woman they want more than just a hookup. They want people they know to know about you. If he’s just semi attracted or not attracted at all he’ll fuck the shit out of you but keep you in a dungeon and not want anyone to know about you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 12:21 PM
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OR….”I like older men because they actually treat me the way I like to be treated.” And no she’s not a high body count woman. She’s more traditional and values actual relationships and not hookups
/r/AllPillDebate20/07/23 11:50 AM
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I’ve never met a woman who just wants hookups and FWB. When they “hookup” with a guy they see as relationship material they want that. The woman I’m talking about that I’m seeing started out as just a hookup or whatever. She actually even knew I was seeing someone else when I met her. But she wants more now after seeing me for a month.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 10:34 AM
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I’ve never met a woman that doesn’t want a relationship. Even if they say that, what they really mean is “I’d love to be in a relationship with a certain type of guy.” In other words, I’ve never seen a woman meet a guy she feels is a “catch/husband material” and not want a relationship with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 10:33 AM
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Do you think men orgasm during sex because women are good at it?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 09:29 AM
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Women don’t have to have kids. Get with a man that doesn’t want kids. Problem solved
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 09:16 AM
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I’m on there. I’d never tell an unattractive guy to harass women in public. I tell guys to know their level of attractiveness and be able to read how attractive a woman finds you. Only approach women that find you attractive. In fact, it’s better to let her approach you first. Being good looking and tall is a plus, but it can’t make up for a trash personality or conversational skills. I’ve literally had women choose me over taller guys because they felt more chemistry with me and felt I was more…
/r/AllPillDebate19/07/23 11:26 PM
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Nah her reaction was her saying she was shocked and loved that I’d want to do that. I already know how she feels about me because she constantly asks me about if I want to get married again. I see what you’re saying though. Like one girl told me she got the ick when one guy who she’d just talked to on the phone asked her “what are we?” He was oblivious to the fact that it wasn’t even like that. But when a guy knows how a woman feels about him, and then confirms and validates her feelings by doin…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 10:46 PM
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No they’d actually be flattered if they genuinely like the guy. I told the young lady I’ve been seeing for the past month that if she didn’t have her friends wedding to go to the same weekend, I’d take her with me to my family members big 50th birthday blowout out of town. She was like “you really want to bring me around your family? 🥺”. They’re freaked out when it’s a guy they don’t feel like that towards. But when they do feel like that about him they feel validated.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 10:26 PM
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I never said they needed to look like steroid users. Women really don’t even like that look as much as the “lean mean fighting machine” look. They look fast and strong at the same time. And those look like Khoisan people. They’re generally smaller people. And not known as warriors. You look at men from the more warlike tribes and they may not be huge but they’ll be lean and ripped.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 08:08 PM
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It’s like we have conversations on here that everyone already knows the answer to. But we keep having them because we don’t want to admit it’s a double standard. Women like muscular fit men because in nature those men were the best protectors and providers for them and their offspring. The fat guy can’t chase down the antelope. The super skinny guy can’t swing that club to bash the invaders skull. And “chubby” women were favored because they were usually the most fertile. This is why you don’t s…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 07:41 PM

So rebelling against your parents and the culture your family came from is good so you can drink and party and fuck and suck some Western dudes who just see you as the new “exotic” hole to help them get off?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 07:05 PM
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I would add what you said to what I said too.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 07:01 PM
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Are you a man?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 07:00 PM
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I’d say you really don’t even have to work too hard to be this guy, besides the athletic and taking care of yourself part. Everything else you listed to describe this guy is really just a guy who’s happy with himself, enjoys life and spending time and talking with the woman he’s with, and is a genuine kind and friendly guy who’s interested in different things. That’s not really hard to be. I talk to women. Pretty much all of them say they meet guys that are attractive enough all the time. But th…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 06:20 PM
1

Are you male or female?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 05:22 PM
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I’d say for most guys she doesn’t really even need to have a good head on her shoulders. Just being what he likes and wants to be seen with is enough. People automatically assume a man is “high value” in some way when he can get a beautiful woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 04:12 PM
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Men definitely will bring “sexy women” around just to show them off to family and friends. Like saying “look what I got.” She’s who we want people to see by our side. You tell the guys about her. You show people her pictures, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 04:08 PM
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I don’t even know what we’re debating at this point. OP asked how can she know a man that’s already having sex with her is sexually attracted. So we know he gets sexually aroused. But she wants to know if he actually likes what he sees and how she looks. What I’m saying is when a man sees a woman in that way he usually wants to do more with her than just sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 04:01 PM
2

So you’ve never had women that you’re attracted to in a way that you want people to see the two of you together?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 03:50 PM
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Maybe I’m not explaining it well enough. I just know for a fact that I can get an erection and have sex with women I’m not actually really attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 03:40 PM
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Arousal is more of a physical response. Attraction is physical and mental. Like a person I absolutely despise and see as disgusting can do certain things physically and I’ll get an erection against my own will. Attraction is moreso when I like what I see and how that person acts and makes me feel, so I want to be intimate with them and make them feel good in and out of bed. Sometimes just the thought of getting to put your penis into a vagina is enough to get a man aroused. But that doesn’t mean…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 03:34 PM
1

They do. I get compliments from women about my cologne, hair, or clothes semi-regularly. But I think they’re just not used to approaching guys they’re attracted to on a “hey sexy what’s your name” level. The last woman who approached me like that said she couldn’t breathe and her heart was pounding the entire 5 minutes we were talking after she approached me. The same way guys feel when we approach women we’re attracted to. So they’d rather sit back and choose from the men that approach them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 03:25 PM
7

I’m laughing my ass off at how women in here that have never been a heterosexual man sleeping with women still will argue with what men say about this. Men will tell you we’re perfectly capable of getting an erection and having sex with a woman we’re not actually attracted to. But ladies still wanna debate it lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 02:49 PM
9

I’d say that’s sexually aroused and not actually sexually attracted.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 02:44 PM
0

Right. Being financially stable will eventually come into play. You don’t necessarily need to be financially stable to get a woman or sleep with her. But being financially stable is crucial with most women if you want to turn it into a longterm relationship. This is why it’s said women get a man and try to build him into their perfect man. Because they choose who they’re sexually attracted to and have the most chemistry with first. Then figure out the financial part.
/r/AllPillDebate19/07/23 02:29 PM
4

Sexually aroused is not the same as sexually attracted. Sexual arousal is involuntary. Any woman with the right parts can get a man sexually aroused. But when we’re actually sexually attracted we like how that woman looks. We want to do things with her outside of sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 02:22 PM
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He’s not really attracted then. He just knows she can help him bust a nut
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 02:19 PM
4

Not true. I’d say that’s mostly true for women though. Men can have sex with women they’re not actually attracted to. It’s basically like using her vagina to masturbate.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 02:16 PM
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It’s not 100% all the time, but when we’re actually attracted to you we’ll take you around our family and friends, and actually be excited to do it. And we’ll look for any excuse to take you out and do things in public. Basically we’ll want to “show you off.” He’ll want to be around you as much as possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 02:15 PM
4

All true. Both types of women recognize he’s attractive. But one type will only be with him if he also has money. The other type doesn’t really care about the money. It’s nice but she’d be with him even if he didn’t have it. He’s better off with that woman. This is why I say women that only want men that have already “made it” are hustling backwards. Because if I’m a man with money I know the modern woman will act and play a role just to get that money. But the woman who’s really for me is femin…
/r/AllPillDebate19/07/23 12:08 PM
5

Chad with money. But even if you get money you should still only deal with the women who would be with you even if you were broke.
/r/AllPillDebate19/07/23 12:03 PM
8

The beta bux gets transactional sex. He gets women to fuck him because he did something for them. The guy she’s actually attracted to gets sex because she dreams and fantasizes about being with him. He doesn’t even have to ask or do anything.
/r/AllPillDebate19/07/23 12:00 PM
3

I keep trying to tell guys that they need to focus on being sexually attractive. They spend all this time trying to become high value just for some woman that is mildly sexually attracted to them to use them. They’d be better off focusing on finding a way to get women to have raw animal lust for them. All the women that were really attracted to me sexually didn’t care about money or status. They just wanted to be with me even if I was broke.
/r/AllPillDebate19/07/23 11:57 AM
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Thank you. I agree my comment was well done
/r/AllPillDebate19/07/23 11:51 AM
11

Men are flawed for being “chronically online” but you’re online enough to write this whole dissertation…
/r/AllPillDebate19/07/23 09:06 AM
1

Lmaoooooooo this is what people realized during the Trump election. All the women with all that smoke and hate for Trump. But when it was time to vote they went in there and voted like their husbands or fathers
/r/AllPillDebate18/07/23 07:41 PM
2

I know a 27yr old that has always liked older guys. I’ve known her since she was 22. She never excluded younger guys though. But when I asked her why she liked older she basically said they treat her better and younger guys are “stupid.”
/r/AllPillDebate18/07/23 06:27 PM
-2

Women like this are “Karen’s.” They walk around basically afraid of their own shadow and think everyone has some sinister ulterior motives. But strangely enough, they’re often super confrontational.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 05:57 PM
2

What’s reaching about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 02:23 PM
4

The guy a woman is sleeping with is usually the best guy she can currently get. The woman a guy is sleeping with currently is often the most convenient. The one that makes him put in the least effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 02:14 PM
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You mean the “gross” man will accept sex from all types of women? Yes. But the difference is you may see that guy as gross but those women he’s slept with almost never saw him as gross. The evidence of this is the fact they chose to sleep with him over another guy. Like you may see me as “gross.” But I’ve literally never had a woman I slept with not want a committed relationship with me. It’s like we hook up and next thing I know they’re telling their mom about me and want to introduce me to eve…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 02:09 PM
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A pretty girl will have more options and that’s why she’ll reject more men and only accept the men she actually wants. The “gross” girl will accept sex from all types of men because if she doesn’t she’d get no attention at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 01:52 PM
2

Lmao cool story, sis
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 01:48 PM
-1

They most promiscuous women literally think men should give them money (financial support) for sex
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 11:52 AM
4

The same way unattractive men want women to empathize with them, women that men feel have questionable pasts and character want men to empathize with them. And I just don’t see this culture of women caring about men. The women that I feel care about me are the women that benefit from me being in a good mental space. To women in general, if I’m not feeding them, fucking them, or financing them, they don’t give a shit about how I’m doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 11:47 AM
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No. Guys will literally have sex with a woman they wouldn’t want to be seen with. As a woman you’ll know a guy actually sees you as attractive enough to be with in a relationship when he wants to bring you around his family and friends. But a woman who sleeps with a man almost always sees him as attractive enough to be seen with. A more attractive woman is more likely to make a man jump thru hoops to get sex and prove he’s worthy. Less guys can do what she wants them to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 09:37 AM
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Maybe. The difference is promiscuous men are usually the most attractive men and women want them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 09:25 AM
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Why would a woman care about the success of some guy when it doesn’t benefit her in some way? Women care about themselves and their offspring. Do you benefit that woman or her offspring? If the answers yes then she’ll care about you being successful at doing things. If the answers no then you might as well not exist to her. Make yourself valuable to a woman (resources, good companionship, good experiences, good D, etc) and you’ll start having success with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 09:21 AM
1

That’s one way to put it. Or “happily noncommittal” instead of “boringly committed.”
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 03:23 PM
2

Whatever. It gets so draining arguing with y’all in here about this stuff when anyone can observe what actually happens in the real world, and can talk to women irl who will basically disagree with what a lot of women in here say. I’m not saying women want a guy exactly like Man B. They want a guy that initially excites them like Man B. But they want to find out that he’s actually like Man A when in a relationship with them. But if the initial attraction they have with Man B isnt there, then Man…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 01:50 PM
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I’m just speaking from my own experience. I’ve been the “toxic” guy that women choose over more “safe” guys. And every woman I know who’s “happily single” would give it all up if a guy they want would commit to them fully. They’re contentedly single, but they’d be happier if they were in a committed relationship with a guy they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 01:07 PM
2

Yes that is the type of guy most women dream about meeting. But they also dream that he finds them so special that he reforms his fuckboy ways and transforms into the perfect husband overnight just for them. So when you think about it in the real world, it’s better for guys to play up their inner fuckboy, and dangle the carrot of them possibly reforming when they’re dating a woman. All the women I know say it’s a turnoff when a guy wants a relationship more than they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 12:56 PM
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Yes they would. There are plenty Man A’s out here. The reason so many women are saying they’re “happily single” is because they can’t get a Man B.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 12:48 PM
1

For the women, a smart man would pick A. Easily. An idiot that cares more about public perception of his relationship picks B
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 12:46 PM
3

I don’t struggle. My lady I’m seeing now actually approached me first while was walking thru a store. I thought she was talking to me because she knew me from somewhere. But she said “no I just like how you look.” But even with my experiences I think most guys struggle because they’re oblivious to women that hint that they’re attracted.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 10:56 PM
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Because they have men constantly telling them how beautiful they are because they want to fuck. A lot of those men are blatantly lying about how attractive they think she is. But it works so they keep doing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 10:26 PM
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People hate when men think they’re attractive, but fully support women thinking they’re attractive. When women rate themselves as a “ten” people will say it’s great that they have that confidence and view of themselves. “You go, gurl!!!” But when a guy does the same thing people (mainly women) are moreso inclined to try to tell him he’s not all that and he shouldn’t be so arrogant.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 10:20 PM
1

When you realize that what women say they like and what they actually respond to can be entirely different youll understand this. A lot of what women say when you question them is going to be a safe, politically correct answer and not exactly reflective of what they actually do or think. I’ve literally had women say they think our relationship will be “toxic” with a level of excitement in their voice.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 03:16 PM
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Men should naturally gravitate to the women that actually want them instead of getting depressed and bent out of shop because some other woman doesn’t want them. This is why you see the whole “passport bro” phenomenon. These guys have realized that your experience is infinitely better if you just focus on the women that actually see you as valuable instead of crying about some other women that don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 01:26 PM
0

I live in a suburban city in the southeastern USA. But no matter where you live, do you think guys that are built like ex athletes struggle with women?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 01:21 PM
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lol I look at it as they’ve just never been around someone like me before. When we first started dating my ex wife had a terrible relationship with her mother. It was me that convinced her to look at things differently and try to fix the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 01:00 PM
2

The only real ick I can think of is a woman being super promiscuous or just mean in general. Little personality quirks or lifestyles that are different from mine don’t give me the ick
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 12:57 PM
0

I noticed this when we were dating. But we got married and stayed married for almost ten years. I don’t just discard people because they’re flawed
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 12:55 PM
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What race was this woman? I’ve noticed that white American women are the least friendly, even to white American men. It’s almost like they see everyone as a threat. This is where the “Karen” meme comes from. But other groups of women are far more friendly.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 12:52 PM
1

And you should know if you’re attractive enough
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 12:48 PM
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Lmaoooooooo the 5’9/200lb guy is your average ex high school or college football player. These guys are definitely dating. That’s around my size and I haven’t gone more than a few months without a girlfriend
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 12:45 PM
2

My ex wife would get road rage. Instead of leaving her I’d show her how silly it is to let some insignificant person ruin her day
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 01:38 AM
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When I get the ick with a woman it never really makes me want to stop seeing her if I like her already. It’s more like an “ok so she’s not perfect but that’s ok” moment. From what I see in here women get the ick and completely stop seeing a guy
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 01:35 AM
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Facts. LOL you can tell when someone doesn’t really know what black women like when their example of a good looking black man is Will Smith. Black women never really looked at Will Smith as all that. That Kakonge guy you named is moreso what black women prefer
/r/AllPillDebate13/07/23 08:07 PM
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It’s always funny how nonblack people always talk about Will Smith as this “good looking black man,” but amongst black women he’s never mentioned. Will smith is the “black man that white women like” lol. Most black women prefer darker skinned black men. Speaking of Will Smith, look at who his wife has an unrequited love for to see the type that black women prefer more lol. This is why as a black man it doesn’t bother me if nonblack women don’t prefer me. Because the women that I prefer actually …
/r/AllPillDebate13/07/23 07:58 PM
1

Maybe not by who they want. But probably by somebody. I’ve learned that your experience is almost always better when you go for someone who is clearly already into you instead of trying to convince the one that isn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 03:51 PM
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That’s because women don’t really have game or super unique personalities. But as a man there are definitely guys who a woman doesn’t think are all that attractive, but their personality and the way they talk and connect with her just draws her in and makes her comfortable before she even realizes it. It’s like she can’t resist.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 09:14 PM
2

I know exactly what you’re talking about with your boyfriend’s brother. I’m 5’9” and one of my longest, most intense relationships started with the girl (5’4”) saying she usually dates guys that are 6’0”+. I didn’t get offended or shook up. I just kept talking to her and showing her who I was. A month later, after going out with me and spending time around me, she was telling me she thinks I’m her soulmate lol
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 09:10 PM
1

I don’t know about below average. But they’re definitely not as charismatic or “sexy” as they think. There was a post where a guy wrote a whole press release listing all his amazing traits. Dude sounded like every woman’s dream guy. But he said women he dated only want a one night stand with him. My guy, that means you’re attractive enough to go out with and have sex with, but probably have some personality traits that they don’t like, and you’re probably not as good in bed as you think. Because…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 05:37 PM
2

True. And this is why dating is easy for a man if he chooses a woman that’s selected him.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 04:24 PM
0

I’ve never downloaded a dating app in my life.
/r/AllPillDebate12/07/23 08:30 AM
2

Y’all are tripping bruh. Lmao look around at the couples you see every day. I’m not a “top tier alpha” but don’t have problems with attracting women. I just know how to recognize which women find me attractive and focus on them instead of the ones that don’t find me attractive.
/r/AllPillDebate11/07/23 06:27 PM
2

you must have something desirable I just happen to think every guy does. They’re just looking at the wrong women
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 02:19 PM
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Relationships wouldn’t ever last that long. I think people don’t understand just how much men compromising and catering to women’s needs, wants, and insecurities plays into how successful a relationship is
/r/AllPillDebate11/07/23 10:37 AM
1

Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 10:35 AM
2

I know incels probably have some of the hardest erections known to mankind, but I don’t think they’re hard enough to bust thru prison walls
/r/AllPillDebate11/07/23 01:24 AM
2

He likes women’s pictures online who don’t even know him. He starts offering monetary gifts and favors to women that haven’t even shown they’re interested in him. When he meets new women he goes out of his way to tell them how beautiful they are. They think women should choose them just because they throw money around.
/r/AllPillDebate10/07/23 08:51 PM
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You may have had great experiences with sex workers. There’s a level of acting that they do. But I just know that, for me, those same experiences would be even better if I knew all the freaky stuff she did was out of genuine desire for me and not the money on the dresser. I think it would serve guys in here better to learn how to genuinely attract women that actually want them instead of taking the easy way out and paying for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 07:18 PM
1

So if I as black man say I find white women least attractive what does that matter?
/r/AllPillDebate10/07/23 07:09 PM
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Nah. The best sex comes from a woman that actually has genuine love and desire for you. Part of what gets me aroused with a woman is knowing she wants me just as much as I want her. Paying for it completely kills that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 07:08 PM
1

WHO is answering the question matters is what I’m saying. If this is a question asked in a country where the majority of people aren’t black that’s what you’re going to get. Look at who people actually date and marry though
/r/AllPillDebate10/07/23 07:03 PM
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I don’t know what you’re talking about. There are black women that wear natural hair. The two that I see currently both have dreadlocks. Just like me. And this isn’t about hair. This is about features and body shape. I’m most attracted to black womens features and bodies. Hair is changeable. And you’re black but have the white dude avatar Lmaoooooooo
/r/AllPillDebate10/07/23 06:55 PM
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the one where they are still together she definitely was way more into him from the get go I’ve been said that nowadays women have so many options that a guy should only choose the woman/women that blatantly show him that they see him as the best option of all the guys they can choose from. When you have to convince a woman to choose you it’s only a matter of time before she changes her mind
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 06:53 PM
3

Never experienced this. In all my relationships it was apparent from the first meeting that both of us wanted to be more. The girl I’m seeing now said something the other day like “I’m so glad we met and became friends.” I laughed and said yeah we met and became “friends” that were screwing each other a week later. Both of us knew where it was going from the moment we met. That’s usually how it works. Not two people being friends for years then gradually growing attracted to each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 06:48 PM
3

Nah we don’t. I’ll sleep with white women. And I’d even marry or be in a relationship with the right one that caters to me. But sexually I’m most attracted to black women. When you see black men with white women it isn’t because that’s who they’re most attracted to physically. It’s moreso about how she caters to them and can be seen as a status symbol
/r/AllPillDebate10/07/23 04:11 PM
1

What’s the point of this? In general the men of each group are going to find the women in their group most attractive
/r/AllPillDebate10/07/23 03:44 PM
1

All that stems from pursuing women that don’t want you. A “real” redpill guy wouldn’t even try to pursue a woman that doesn’t want him, so he wouldn’t need to use all those Jedi mind tricks. That’s why I say it’s about valuing yourself. When you value yourself you don’t waste time trying to use tricks to convince someone you’re valuable.
/r/AllPillDebate10/07/23 12:32 PM
1

I didn’t need to learn that. I’ve always treated women well before I knew what a blue or redpill were
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 11:58 AM
1

It’s not about showing someone they’re valueless so they chase. It’s about valuing yourself instead of overvaluing someone else that doesn’t even value you.
/r/AllPillDebate10/07/23 11:37 AM
1

you can’t even express your love to a woman, where you have to apply toxic manipulation tactics This is a clear example of how people have equated redpill with PUA. They really don’t have anything to do with each other. Do you have redpilled guys that use pickup artist tricks? Yes. But just because you’re redpilled it doesn’t mean you’re also a pickup artist. I’m redpilled and I don’t have a problem expressing love to a woman. In fact, that’s one thing they actually like about me.
/r/AllPillDebate10/07/23 10:21 AM
2

If you’re a Christian would you stop being Christian because some Christians have went around the world and colonized and subjugated indigenous people?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 09:32 PM
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Guys have to know that most women are emotionally ruled beings. They often do what feels good in the moment without considering the consequences. The girl I’ve been seeing recently, in the middle of sex, told me she wanted me to take the condom off so she could “feel” me. I didn’t though. And afterwards she told me she’s glad I didn’t get caught up and do what she said. But I’m used to this because every woman I’ve been with eventually wanted me to not use protection. But as a man you can’t get …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 09:19 PM
0

Height definitely does matter to women. But if you’re not a tall guy the worst thing you can do is let a woman know you feel inferior to taller guys. When you go on and on about how women like taller men you’re just showing your inferiority complex
/r/AllPillDebate09/07/23 09:03 PM
6

the guys getting drawn to these ideas don't have partners anyway Not true at all. Treating women well is the main thing that gets you a woman. Even if you have "redpill ideas." I may be redpill but all the women I've been with will tell you I've treated them better than most of the "bluepill" guys they've been with. Women have infinite stories about guys that have treated them like trash and the majority of those guys would be called “bluepilled.” Being redpilled≠mistreating women just like bein…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 08:25 PM
1

I disagree. If you actually treat them well they'd probably say something like "I don't know why you go online arguing with those crazy people." But if you're actually a bad partner/lover then it probably would add to the reasons why they don't want to be with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 08:18 PM
5

You're here too though
/r/AllPillDebate09/07/23 08:10 PM
1

Women think they're all beautiful because men tell them that. Every woman that's average-below average has some guy(s) telling her she's the most beautiful woman around. Smart women that are actually self aware know men only do this as a strategy to get her attached, or they do it because they like to see her smile and be happy.
/r/AllPillDebate09/07/23 07:25 PM
1

So in most cases, the woman
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 03:58 PM
2

"Data" nowadays is often unreliable. Do you really think a study done today is going to honestly say something that's seen as a negative about women? Even when negative behaviors by women are pointed out, they're often glossed over because they'll say women have legitimate reasons for doing the things they do. For example, when a woman cheats is because "oh her man must not be treating her right. She's unhappy." But when men cheat it's "men are dogs."
/r/AllPillDebate08/07/23 03:55 PM
1

Men in general have always liked all types of women. Just because a guy may like a petite woman for his wife doesn't mean he's not attracted to and won't sleep with a curvier woman. Women are more prone to having one specific type of guy they like. In other words the guy they'll sleep with and marry will often look the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 03:08 PM
1

Yeah but my point is you'll leave one sucky person who's great in bed for another sucky person who's great in bed. While the actual decent person doesn't even get a chance if the sexual chemistry isn't there initially. The moral of the story is....sex actually does matter. A lot.
/r/AllPillDebate07/07/23 06:04 PM
1

And that is???
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 03:56 PM
3

When people say "sex doesn't matter" it's like they're talking about in the midst of a relationship. When you're in a relationship with a person you love the importance of sex diminishes somewhat. But they forget to mention that sex is usually the thing that made them even want to get into that relationship with that person. If you can't get the initial sexual attraction you'll never even get to the point where "sex doesn't matter" anymore.
/r/AllPillDebate07/07/23 03:11 PM

Why aren't their loved ones giving them that love they need so they won't be out here being misled by strangers?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 03:03 PM
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Men get shamed for not wanting to date any type of woman who's willing to date them. Basically if you're a man and a woman is willing to date you you should be glad. Even if she's not your type. But as a man you can't be so lead by what society tells you. You have to have your own personal code and not be swayed by what the masses tell you you should do or be. Like I told one girl I don't like women who are into casual hook-ups. She said I was "slut shaming." I said idgaf. Maybe we're not compat…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 12:20 PM
1

Where did I say it's okay for men to lie about their sexual past? I say men should be out there getting with women so they won't feel a need to lie
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 03:47 PM
1

Who said it's okay for men to lie about their past? And it's always funny to me how women act like they don't understand the differences, but every woman I know uses terms like "slut, whore, trash, etc" when they have an issue with another woman that they feel is more promiscuous than them. If being promiscuous isn't seen as a bad thing why would women use the fact that another woman is promiscuous as an insult? You don't see men insulting other men by saying "you've had a lot of sex. You're tra…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 03:08 PM

I like talking about human behavior and relationships and culture. Something like an amateur sociologist. Sociologists that go into the Amazon and study the cultures of the tribes there aren't told they "hate women/men) when they give their observations of what they see the people do.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 08:44 PM
10

Because sex is easy for women to get. One woman I know said it's not a flex for her to get sex because she could "get dick easier than a cold glass of water." But men have to actually work for sex. They have to be charming, attractive, pleasant to be around, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 05:58 PM
0

Tbh if a woman is really into you you can have sex without even going on dates. Most of the time nowadays I don’t even take women on the first “date” until after we’ve already slept together
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 03:54 PM
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I’m a “nice normal man” and don’t struggle with women. I don’t have a criminal record or a bunch of kids. The reason guys struggle is because they’re NPC’s. If they were in a video game they’d be a background character. The guys that are actually successful with women know how to stand out. They don’t get women because they’re criminals. They get women because they excite women. The guys that struggle just don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 12:57 PM
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I never said any of that. I said don’t think a man is going to be all giddy to be with a woman because she’s pretty and makes some coin. What ELSE is there to her? If she’s not feminine and cooperative a man isn’t going to CARE that she makes good money or her girls think she’s successful. If the vibe between them or the home environment is trash all her accomplishments don’t mean anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 11:13 PM
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I never said she can’t be. But the person I replied to tried to allude that these women are great because they’re attractive and successful and a man should be happy to be with them because of that. I’m saying no. Ask those men what it’s like to be with those women. THEN you can decide whether or not they’re such a great catch.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 11:08 PM
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You’re triggered lmao. I’m not even saying don’t date successful attractive women. I’m saying being attractive and successful won’t make up for the fact you’re a bitch to a real man. He’d rather be with a less successful slightly less attractive woman with a dope personality
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 09:38 PM
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Uhhh because she’s a pain in the ass to actually deal/live with maybe? Or she’s inhibited sexually? Pick one. This is why men say a woman’s degrees and accomplishments don’t mean much. Most men (that aren’t trying to come up off a woman) would rather be with a drama free simple woman instead of the accomplished career woman who’s super demanding.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 09:26 PM
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I can see it. Every woman thinks all her friends are these amazing angelic ethereal Wonder Women. But the guys these women are with will be fucking miserable lol
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 07:06 PM
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The friends in subject are all financially independent, smart, well educated and have interesting personalities. ….to YOU. Women’s view of women that are their friends are often wildly different from the view the men that are in relationship with those women have of them
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 06:26 PM
1

She’s the type that would leave you if you even suggest anything like that
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 06:24 PM
7

Yeah because they’re just desperate to have a woman, period. When you’ve had women and can get women you’re not settling for a woman that doesn’t really even like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 06:19 PM
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Starfish means all she does is lay there in missionary until you’re done. That’s the totality of the type of sex she has. No head no doggystyle no cowgirl. Nothing besides missionary
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 05:50 PM
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Enthusiastic 3. While the guy with the starfish 10 is jumping thru hoops to get an ounce of enthusiasm from his 10 (that’ll be looking to cheat on him eventually), I’ll be drained and sore from all the rowdy sex, and full from the 3 course meals she cooks afterwards.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 05:42 PM
4

If all the women offer is looks doesn’t that mean the men settled for them too?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 05:22 PM
1

I’m not disagreeing with you. But how exactly does herpes diminish a persons life physiologically?
/r/AllPillDebate04/07/23 05:10 PM
4

It’s not though. It’s cope. I’ve been steadily having sex for almost 30 years. I’ve never had any STI’s.
/r/AllPillDebate04/07/23 05:07 PM
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There’s nothing wrong with being observant of human behavior
/r/AllPillDebate04/07/23 08:22 AM
1

One thing that I’ll always remember a woman telling me was that she “felt dark energy” around me. This was a Christian woman and I’m about as non Christian as you can be. At the time I didn’t like hearing her say that. But I could tell she was attracted to me and this “dark energy” was something that made her hesitant
/r/AllPillDebate03/07/23 11:54 PM
1

lol nah I’m serious. When I’ve dealt with multiple women there’s always one that shows she actually is more into me. That’s the one I gravitate towards. This is why believe women say they can tell when the guy they’ve been seeing starts seeing another woman. For me to deal with multiple women on that level and keep all of them happy takes too much time and energy. Now if you’re just exchanging money or dates for sex it’s doable. But the women I’m into are the type that want quality time. In my e…
/r/AllPillDebate03/07/23 05:32 PM
1

Even women that are super liberal and feminist want a man that can “lead.” But they feel no man today can do that in the way that they want. So they lean into their “independence” and feminism
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 05:09 PM
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Have you ever been in that situation? I see guys say they want this, but it’s usually guys that have never experienced it. Personally, I feel drained when I deal with 2 or more. I find myself focusing more on one, to the point where the other ones feel neglected
/r/AllPillDebate03/07/23 03:36 PM
2

A lot of women today have a resentment towards men, even if they’ve never personally been mistreated by men. There are even women that will tell you their resentment towards men comes from what they ingest online and not from their personal experiences. So many of the women that come here are really coming to take out their frustration on the men that they’ve decided are no good.
/r/AllPillDebate03/07/23 01:38 PM
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I agree. Every woman I know that was able to have as many casual partners as she wanted would say they’d give that up in a heartbeat if a man they actually wanted was willing to commit
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 01:04 PM
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I don’t know why people think this. The men that are complaining about not having women won’t miraculously stop complaining about it if they had a bunch of male friends. They want companionship with women not men. Kissing, hugging, cuddling, sex, intimacy. That’s what these men want.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 01:42 AM
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Most people are single because they think they’re too good for the people that actually like them. For example, if you’re 5’5” and you happen to meet a woman that loves you despite that fact, then you need to hold onto that woman for dear life. If you’re an Indian guy and you happen to meet a woman you like who also doesn’t have an issue with you being Indian, then hold onto her. But what people usually do is get someone that’s genuinely into them, then they start thinking “well if I got them I …
/r/AllPillDebate02/07/23 02:50 PM
1

Tate and JWaller know how to actually be charming with women. Myron seems like the type to always turn everything into a men vs women debate so he loses women. I saw him go on some show (think it’s called Grilling) where the pretty host interviews some guy in a setting like a date. When Myron was on there she grew to despise him because of what he was saying. Funny though, Tate was on the same show. And even though he was saying similar things as Myron, you could see she actually liked him becau…
/r/AllPillDebate01/07/23 07:50 AM
1

Yes. I’d say it’s because even women that aren’t mothers tend to enjoy doing “family stuff” with all the kids. They like playing with kids and talking to them more than most men. As a single man with no kids, I like kids, but I prefer the time I spend with the woman I’m dating to be mainly just me and her. With most single mothers I’ve dated it’s like they have their kids ALL THE TIME. Say we both work Monday-Friday. When I’m off on weekends I want to spend time with the woman I’m dating. Alone.…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 04:21 PM
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Guys that are really good at social interaction don’t get that treatment. Even if they’re not a “Chad.”
/r/AllPillDebate30/06/23 03:48 PM
2

Nope. Got divorced about 5 yrs ago
/r/AllPillDebate30/06/23 03:46 PM
1

woman gives the more masculine man a shot and is absolutely repulsed You don't get it. If he's actually masculine in the true sense, she won't be repulsed. She'll be drawn to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 09:30 AM
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"The looks" is not looking like a supermodel like some of you guys think. Some women like tall guys. Some like guys closer to their own height. Some like curly haired guys. Some like straight hair. Some like beards. Some like cleanshaven. Etc etc etc. You have to know who you are and find the women that like guys like you. I've had women look at me like "meh." But I've also had women that found me attractive enough that they'll stop me and start a conversation. Who do you think I focused my atte…
/r/AllPillDebate29/06/23 04:39 PM
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It's important, but a lot of women don't even realize it until they experience it. They may go for the "pretty boy" usually. But then the meet a more masculine guy and they love the way he makes them feel. They're used to feeling equal or even superior to the guys they date. But with the masculine guy they feel protected and taken care of. They find themselves doing things they didn't do for other guys and being more feminine when they're around him. And they like it. One of these days guys are …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 04:07 PM
2

Not if she's only doing it for money and I know she's only doing it for money
/r/AllPillDebate29/06/23 03:56 PM
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I've been married, have a sister, female cousins, friends, former girlfriends, etc. I talk to a lot of women basically. What they all usually say is they see tons of guys that are good looking enough for them. They say the problem is most guys open their mouths and say the most ridiculous shit, and that's what turns them off. That's personality. Guys need to learn how to just be cool. Chill and easygoing. I saw a video where a girl said she was on a coffee date with a handsome guy and happened t…
/r/AllPillDebate29/06/23 03:43 PM
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I am not attractive enough where women will cheat on their boyfriend with me It's weird that guys want to get the treatment of "hot chicks" where all they need is to be pretty. I'd say men actually have it easier to be honest. Your charisma, swag, game, and other things can make you more attractive to a woman than the "hot guy" with no personality. Do you think a woman wants to be with a guy who focuses on and complains about what he doesn't have? Or the guy that recognizes what he does have and…
/r/AllPillDebate29/06/23 03:29 PM
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You literally contradict your own point when you say you see guys "uglier" than you with girlfriends. If you're so hot they'd see you and drop their boyfriends and come running to you. You guys need to know your level. If you're attractive enough that you don't need money or personality to get women that's great. But if not you're going to have to do some other things to make the thought of being with you somehow pleasant for a woman. There's no use complaining about it.
/r/AllPillDebate29/06/23 02:56 PM
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I consider myself a 6/10 and I see uglier guys in public having girlfriends which is quite weird to be honest What's weird about a guy with a better personality who's more pleasant to be around having a girlfriend while you don't?
/r/AllPillDebate29/06/23 02:17 PM
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I'd actually say women don't like "bad boys" criminal types as much as "good guys" think. The only real difference between "bad boys" and "good guys" is the "bad boy" doesn't do the expected run of the mill things the "good guy" does. The "good guy" is ready to get married after a phone conversation, while the "bad boy" tells her "let's just see what happens." He keeps her in suspense and wanting more, whether it's intentional or not. There are guys that women see as "bad boys" who are straight …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 01:32 PM
1

I actually think the thing that makes a lot of women leave one guy for the chance to get "Chad" is the guy she's with becoming too clingy and available. "Chad" is really just the guy that she has to chase. The guy that's unavailable. The guy that has other options. Any guy can be that guy for a woman that's into him. What am I saying? When a woman wants you don't be so quick to jump into a relationship with her. A lot of guys today are more desperate for a relationship than women. When men do th…
/r/AllPillDebate29/06/23 12:37 PM
2

I actually think being friends with much younger people is more weird than being in a relationship with one. Because being friends with someone is about interests. People with huge age differences usually have different interests. But if you see two people in a relationship, even if they have a big age gap, they usually have similar interests and a genuine connection.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 12:18 PM
1

It's because when men talk how they're meant to talk, women here in the States get all afraid and intimidated. I have a voice and speaking style that women have called intimidating. One time I was ordering food at a restaurant counter and a lady sitting in the dining area turned around and said something about my voice being "striking and strong." I was literally just ordering hotcakes and sausages though. Mind you, I'm from NY but moved to the South as a teen. So people here can here remnants o…
/r/AllPillDebate28/06/23 05:16 PM
0

I knew a woman that described herself as a "boss bish." She was an RN. I wanted to ask her who's check is she signing. For a lot of women being a "boss babe" isn't even about being a person of authority. It's them being proud that they have this car, that house, they can take trips, buy designer bags, etc etc. A lot of them want to live the lives of their favorite "Real Housewives" star. And saying people that don't have that lifestyle are "beneath" them. When men say they don't want a "boss bab…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 10:36 PM
2

OP, are you now, or have you ever been in a relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 09:54 AM
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People act like men can't be objectified and used for sex because they think we always want sex more than women. But it's not true. I remember a time I was hanging out with a girl over a few nights. We'd sit and watch movies and talk and make out. After the second night of that she told me she wasn't trying to just talk and if I wasn't trying to actually have sex I might as well not even come back anymore. Just imagine if a guy said that to a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 12:40 AM
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he felt insulted when asked to go to the grocery store He actually wasn't the most masculine then. The most masculine would be the man that a woman could depend on for anything. Like going to the grocery store when she couldn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 10:46 PM
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Just because she starts sleeping with another guy quickly doesn't mean she develops those intense feelings she had for her ex. Sometimes it's a case of focusing on something else in order to take your mind off of what you're really thinking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 10:43 PM
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I think the reason why this is a thing is because oftentimes the man a woman "loves" the most isn't necessarily the one that treated her the best or was the best for her. It's often about the man's status and position in the world. The one that other people look at as a "great man." Like I know a girl who I would say was hung up on her ex husband. Now if you listen to her stories about their relationship you wouldn't even say he treated her well. He cheated on her, they fought all the time, he d…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 10:36 PM
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And another thing you’re not considering: women want the guy that other guys respect or fear. They don’t want the guy that other men see as a “nice” guy. They want the guy other guys respect or know not to fuck with. Other guys might see him as a douchebag. But they know not to fuck with him. That’s attractive to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 10:41 PM
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What comes across as a “douchebag” to other dudes can be flirtatious or confident or naughty to women. You see him as a douchebag but the back and forth witty banter is fun to her. “Nice guys” are boring.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 10:36 PM
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They’re not overrating their appearance. They’re underestimating how unattractive their personality might be. Most of the women I know say they see and meet guys that are attractive enough for them all the time. But as soon as he opens his mouth and starts talking she gets turned off.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 09:04 PM
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Yeah I wouldn’t say 6’1” is really tall enough to get those perks. But I had a homie that was 6’10.” It actually hit me one day that girls would flock to our little clique because this super tall dude was there. They’d want to date him. But they’d actually prefer talking to me lol. I was the one they would come to talk to about a variety of subjects while the conversation with him was more basic or mundane topics. So I’m not jealous of super tall guys. If I had to choose being shorter and having…
/r/AllPillDebate23/06/23 04:41 PM
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u think she walked around and was thinking I need to find the absolute tallest man I can find and become friends with them I’m 5’9”. I have literally witnessed taller guys with zero personality or conversation skills have women flock to them. The only thing they know is he’s a tall guy. But it never bothered me because they like my face and eyes. So I’d do ok. But it’s a fact that just being a tall guy goes a long way with women.
/r/AllPillDebate23/06/23 04:24 PM
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But women literally get their bodies done, and even risk dying, to look like the women that have big boobs and ass
/r/AllPillDebate23/06/23 04:19 PM
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Some would say that she may have specifically chose them to become “friends” with because of their height though
/r/AllPillDebate23/06/23 04:18 PM
1

People are just putting labels on and speaking about things that have always existed for as long as human beings have mated. There have always been “incels, alpha males, Chads, etc.”
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 01:58 PM
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I think women want to feel that initial excitement when they first meet a guy. But what they really want is to eventually feel a sense of comfort with the guy that they feel that intense nervous attraction towards.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 11:06 PM
5

As a man who's tried dating single mothers I WISH more of them would let the father's have primary custody
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 02:41 PM
3

Men don't (at least I don't) really want hugs from other men. They want that from women. And it doesn't have to lead to sex. When I'm with the girl I'm seeing we'll lay on the couch and she'll rub my arms or face while massage her legs. When we're driving somewhere she'll stroke my arm or shoulder while I drive. Sometimes this leads to sex but sometimes it doesn't. And I'm okay with that. But that's what men want. Not hugs and handshakes from the bros.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 01:09 AM
2

I always say it's easy to choose to be alone when you know there's someone a call away that's literally wishing you would just ask them to spend time together
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 01:05 AM
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"Biracial" lol. He'll be a lightskinned black man to anyone that doesn't know his parentage. And some "biracial" people sometimes are darker skinned than some people with two black parents. It's sad that he'll grow up hating himself
/r/AllPillDebate20/06/23 09:51 PM
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Black men that date and marry other women will tell you they really don't find those other women more attractive than black women physically. The issueost black men have with black women has to do with their personality and demeanor. Their behavior
/r/AllPillDebate20/06/23 09:50 PM
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Your son will still be a black man. I guess black women shouldn't date him either
/r/AllPillDebate20/06/23 09:45 PM
4

The majority of black men pretty much only date black women
/r/AllPillDebate20/06/23 09:43 PM
4

There's a whole genre of Disney Princess films with a princess of every shape, size, and color for every girl to identify with.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 07:38 PM
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Because people use who they're with as a form of status. A low value woman getting the equivalent man would force her to recognize where her "level" is. When she looks at the men other women are with it would make her feel she failed if she sees her man as mediocre. Women are competitive with each other. Getting the "high value man" makes her feel she's as good as, or better than, other women. This is why women get together and always ask each other "what does your husband/boyfriend do?" They ra…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 07:33 PM

What if my way of expressing grief is to go off and not talk for a day? And someone telling me I should want to talk about it feels more like them telling me I need to change. It feels more like telling men they should handle things more like women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 04:45 PM
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have multiple men waiting on them constantly My point is single women that don't have this are usually not "happy" and will feel overwhelmed by certain things that come up. And I said nothing about sex. But if a woman has some emergency there are no shortage of men (some that want sex but some that actually don't) willing to come to her aid. Similar to how a boyfriend or husband would.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 04:32 PM
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And men do emotional and physical labor that goes unnoticed and unappreciated by women. Anything else?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 04:28 PM
10

It's disingenuous because they're not actually "single." They still have various men to do the things a husband or boyfriend would do for them. They're just not in a committed relationship with any of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 03:46 PM
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Women are only "happier single" because they're able to use multiple men to perform the roles that a husband or boyfriend would. Emotional support, companionship, physical labor, sex, etc. Some women have multiple guys that will perform each "task" for them. The women that have no men whatsoever to do these things for them are definitely not "happier single."
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 03:43 PM
1

I think the point is that there are times and situations where men are encouraged, and told it's actually the right thing to do, to cater to women's every need. And told that doing so makes them a "good man." There's really never a time or situation where women are told they need to cater to their man's every need.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 03:05 PM
1

Yeah women in here have literally called me a misogynist. But IRL I'm the guy that has women I date saying the same things about me that they say about their "unicorn" husbands in here LoL
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 12:53 PM
1

I agree. They understand male psychology more. They understand that stroking a man's ego in the short-term will get them what they want long-term
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 12:43 PM
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Well one example would be a guy who's okay with his woman having other men besides him
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 01:37 AM
1

Honestly, that's pretty much what it is at the end of the day
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 01:17 AM
0

I think if the majority of those encounters are with guys who she was the "sidechick" or just a hookup for, and he had no intention of actually being with her, many guys would see that as problematic. Basically guys don't want women that other men see as "easy."
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 01:15 AM
1

When men talk about "body count" they're really not talking about the literal amount of times a woman has had sex. They're talking about the amount of times she's had sex with some random guy she barely knows
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 01:12 AM
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I wouldn't mind a woman that's the breadwinner, but if I didn't have some constructive reason for waking up every morning and doing something outside of the house that benefited the family I think I'd be depressed I pay for dates. But once you've established that you're exclusive I see nothing wrong with women paying sometimes I don't hung up on body count. But I would prefer a woman who prefers to have sex in the context of a committed relationship/situation and not just casual hookups I don't …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 01:07 AM
6

Another woman in here with a unicorn super rare husband lmao. Maybe your guy isn't actually all that rare
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 12:57 AM
0

When you have a best friend that you share inside jokes and a special bond with, how would you feel if you found out they're the same way with everyone they meet?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 12:55 AM
-1

Being comfortable and confident in her body still doesn't mean she should sleep with every guy who tells her she's cute
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 12:53 AM
1

I date older and younger women. The older women don't like it when they find out I also date younger women. Not because they're concerned for the younger women. It's because a guy they could see themselves being with also dates younger women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 07:34 PM
2

I agree. This is why the older man-younger woman dynamic is completely different from the older woman-younger man dynamic. The older man that can attract the younger woman is usually a higher quality guy that women his own age would also want. And I'm not talking about an older guy who strictly pursues younger women. I'm talking about the older man that just happens to attract younger women. The older woman that attracts the younger guy it's usually because they both see each other as "easy." Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 07:32 PM
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Are you a man or woman?
/r/AllPillDebate17/06/23 07:20 PM
1

No I agree that younger men are easier. But knowing that the person you're with is with you because they see you as "easier" isn't a good feeling. That's my point. Younger men go for older women because it's easier. Not because they actually like them better than younger women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 07:18 PM
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The men that you see complaining are complaining about a lack of sex, not relationships. The men that can get regular sex are perfectly fine with that. They're able to "use the product" without having to actually "buy" it. They know that at any point, if they wanted something more serious, they could pick one of the women they're sleeping with and she's highly likely to want something more serious too.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 03:47 PM
2

I want someone ambitious so they understand when I can't always spend time with them or text them back straightaway A person doesn't need to be ambitious to not be needy. You have guys that play PlayStation all day and won't care what you do when you're on your own. But you probably wouldn't date them. When women say "ambition" it's almost always about making money.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 03:11 PM
5

Attracting people for relationships is basically selling yourself. If a product was selling at a price that no one accepts the salesman will eventually realize that the the price they're asking for is too much. Then they adjust.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 03:02 PM
1

it's not hard to understand. American women grow up hearing how great they are. The whole "princess yasssss queen" culture. So they're going to be more demanding and entitled in relationships, in general. The way this effects American men is it makes them more accepting of women that want to "shine." Even American men that don't claim to be "feminist" will have more "feminist" views than men from more patriarchal cultures. So women from those cultures that are tired of a patriarchal culture and …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 02:58 PM
7

Every time I've seen someone use "situationship" it's a situation where one person actually would prefer if it was a more traditional relationship, but the other person wants to keep it more casual. Even if they both start out on the same page, one or both people eventually want the dynamic to be different.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 09:35 AM
4

What mindset? That younger men are "easier?"
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 09:32 AM
2

You really don’t even have to have high status. Just being a man who’s respected by people is enough. You could be an introverted quiet regular guy. If women see people that meet you and know you treat you with respect it’ll make you more attractive. I’ve seen women say they could be attracted to a guy, but if they find out he’s the “lame” among his group of friends, or other people see him as a “lame,” she’ll lose attraction. This is why guys stress themselves out trying to be “alpha" aka the e…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 11:24 PM
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I was once a late teens-twenty something guy hooking up with older women. It wasn’t that I liked them better than younger women. It was just easier. Men want sex whether the woman is older or younger. The easier it is to get said sex, the better. There were older women that would get the googly eyes just because a handsome younger guy showed them attention. With younger women you actually had to impress them and have “game.” In a way the experience I gained from older women helped me become more…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 10:21 PM
4

I know one guy personally who’d say he likes older women because “they’ll work, have good credit, and give you money and gifts.” He said younger women want a guy who’s actually going to take care of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 10:19 PM
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The first half of the definition is the sum total of what an incel is. The rest is just them giving their reason for why they think that is. Some would say it’s so you don’t have sympathy for the “incel.” But its “involuntarily celibate.” A guy could worship women and love everything about them. If he’s not physically attractive enough or has an extremely awkward personality he won’t be able to attract one no matter how he tries.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 07:17 PM
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I’d be willing to bet those physical and stylistic changes caused you to carry yourself differently. You knew you looked good and you carried yourself like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 11:49 PM
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An incel isn’t even necessarily misogynistic. An “incel” is basically a guy that can’t get a woman to sleep with him, for whatever reason
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 11:44 PM
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This. It’s because some of the things that women find attractive in men increase as men get older. Some men can’t even grow a beard until they’re 30+. Some guys don’t take style and grooming serious until they get older. I think that’s a big part of what people mean when they say men “age like wine.”
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 06:39 PM
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One day you’ll see a man say women are too promiscuous and women will argue and say that’s not true, men are the real whores. Then today you have a post saying men are more promiscuous and you have women saying no that’s not true women are lying and actually have more sex than men. The common denominator is whatever a man says about women you’ll have women saying it’s not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 04:40 PM
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Disagree. For the top group of men all of them will most likely have multiple women that only sleep with them. But the guy is sleeping with multiple women. Women having lower sex drives contributes to this. She may not want sex multiple times a week so seeing that one guy once a week is enough. But he’s having sex multiple times a week. Just with different women. You can also see evidence of this by the number of women that have children and sex with men that have children by multiple women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 04:28 PM
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I’ve noticed that that age group has the most couples where the guy is more attractive than the woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 04:24 PM
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That age group is the one that I’ve noticed you’ll see couples where the guy is clearly more attractive than the woman
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 04:22 PM
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