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This sub is going downhill. I question if some of these posts are even real, or if they're bot generated.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 03:54 AM
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Ffs, every generation has its own challenges. But I'll tell you, nothing was ever for free, nothing was ever easy. Finding relationships, making yourself have value on the marketplace always was work. The young people I know are more monogamous now than kids in the 70s. And the 60s and 70s were the golden age of divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 03:38 AM
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I think sex drive is way more complex than short vs. tall.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 03:26 PM
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Call it whatever you want. The fact is, I've met women who are way way more "horny" than most men. And know of a lot of men that quickly wank off when the urge strikes, and otherwise don't really care.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 04:36 AM
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None of those things have anything to do with male vs female sex drive strength. Only that they are different. In my experience (older male) women pre menopause tend to be incredibly horny, at least equal to a male. In all genders stress plays a huge role in turning off libido. And yes, testosterone plays a role, but is not the only factor, and remember that women do have testosterone, albeit lower levels. A male drive may be more urgent but much quicker and straightforward. A female drive may b…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 10:56 PM
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But here's the problem, it's just completely generalized. That's the major red flag. All women aren't like that. I'd wager most of them aren't like that. It makes me think the OP knows very few actual women in the real world, and totally derives this laundry list from social media.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 01:09 AM
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It's not just that women are "allowed" to compete (whether via Diversity-Equity-Inclusion programs or via cultural enlightenment or because female managers finally ascended), it's that job natures have changed. Physical strength is not nearly as important as it used to be, especially for high paying jobs. Even in warfare it's become much less important, you don't need a lot of strength to sit in a little room and drive a drone, or to train AI for cyber warfare. Jobs that require physical strengt…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 05:20 PM
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Actually, no, you only focus on yourself as a necessary component of having agency. The old story that the airlines tell you. You're in an airplane that's losing oxygen, and you're with a child. They tell you to first put on your own mask, to better ensure you can help the child. That's not selfishness. When I think of a great leader, for instance a general or a leader of a movement, the association is with selflessness, not selfishness. That doesn't mean being weak, or standing aside ceding pow…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 06:25 PM
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It's just not true. Power is about being smarter, and having good or better strategy. It's about being clean in execution and, yes, sometimes ruthless, but more often making people around you successful in order to elevate your own success. Have you ever played the game of Go? Or read Sun Tzu's The Art of War? I would not even equate selfishness to being an "asshole". I would term it more self preservation, and responsibility to those you lead. Though there may come a time when leading, that you…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 06:53 AM
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You don't have to be an asshole to have power. Especially you don't have to be an asshole to women. I don't understand young people's psychology.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 05:23 AM
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Naw, you can make autistic work.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 04:09 AM
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I don't think you need to be an extrovert as such. That can even work against you. You just need to pass a basic threshold of holding a conversation longer than 20 seconds. I mean, it's just one part of the puzzle, but a pretty damned important one. There are books and such out there that can help these guys develop basic conversational skills, which are really good for business also. No pickup skills or fake wit. Just learn how to ask her questions and be curious about her, answer questions abo…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 04:08 AM
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I think this is a good addition to the OP comments. Another thing I would add is basic social skills, including how to carry on a conversation. When I was younger I would get kind of stage fright with women, and had a hard time just talking to them. Learning some basic conversational tricks can help muscle through that while you relax. Helps not just direct 1-1 with women, but in mixed company too, which in turn can lift your overall social value.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 03:54 AM
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You can develop almost any skill. Doesn't need to come naturally.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 03:44 AM
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It is an interesting story. And in the past in many cases towns had kind of forced dances, ceili or square dances. And now there's the speed dating thing, which I find interesting. All of these seem better to me than photo browsing. I'm not totally against some form of digital dating for extreme circumstances. I just think they should be the exception and not the rule for young people. And the apps should maybe be thought out differently. Doing initial contact by voice is indeed interesting, and…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 02:29 AM
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But why go the online dating route at all? Maybe you already answered with "Should I have quit my job and taken up dating full time?", but it seemed to me online dating ended up being pretty time consuming? And, no criticism at all of your comments! I apologize that I have that impression. Rather, it sparked my interest. I was merely riffing off your post to point out the problems with choosing a date by digital image. I'm often perplexed by the young men on this and other subs that seem to judg…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 01:38 AM
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Well church then. Town planning meetings. Kite clubs. Knitting clubs. Cooking classes. Cooking classes are probably excellent. I went on a bicycle touring meetup some years ago, it certainly wasn't a sausage fest. Or a hiking group. Or a runners club. Lots of healthy, fit women who run, and a good opportunity to chat as you're running along. Rock climbing too. How about a dog training class, do you have a puppy to train? Or have you considered a feral cat rescue organization? Or club juggling is…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 09:14 PM
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Why? How? You think there shouldn't be a sense of responsibility and obligation in relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 04:01 PM
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No, bodies don't just change over time in terms of weight and basic fitness, unless there are exceptional circumstances. And what's "inside" has an integrated relationship with physical health. A woman or a man has responsibility to their spouse to maintain physical and mental health to the best of their ability. And as you get older it's the spouse that has to give support for diabetes, or Alzheimer's, or any number of other sickly conditions that can be the outcome of not being physically fit.…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 03:58 PM
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I don't get it. Just masterbate. What's the problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 10:22 AM
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No I'm saying older people who want to date younger should grow up. And the younger woman, or man, should be aware that not growing up is a red flag sign of instability, so less about maturity mismatch and more about avoiding problematic people and relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 10:16 AM
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If I see someone dating someone significantly younger than themselves, and disregarding gender, I think that person really didn't grow up, which would be a general indicator of mental instability. Call me old fashioned, or prudish, it's ok, I can take it. I consider myself pretty liberal in most things, including sexually. But, I'm an old guy and have seen a lot, and just think that close to the same age partnering is best.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 09:57 AM
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"if I felt a guy was unattractive from a photo - didn't go out with him". Right, and in that case she didn't find out one way or the other. Man, I've met women who weren't conventionally attractive, and who I certainly wouldn't pick from a photo, that I was crazy attracted to when I met them and were great matches. And the inverse. Pheromones are at play I suppose, as well many other factors. I think picking someone from a photo is ridiculous, and kind of creepy and dystopian.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 09:24 AM
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"Overall, I quickly realized I couldn't tell attraction from photos well". This is what every lost and suffering guy on these subs needs to understand. And it goes both ways. If you want to meet people and you don't have social circles, do meetups. Anything but online dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 02:31 AM
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Naw. A smile is only one signal. And a woman may not even be thinking about you enough to know you even exist. Approach all you want, just do it gently, with sensitivity, and then read the signals. The thing is, failure is ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 05:11 AM
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It's not about what people "claim". It's about actually being successful. If you're not successful, either you're at the very bottom of the marketplace genetically, or you are indeed doing something wrong. And it may not be that you're not working hard enough. It may be that a different strategy will work better. For example, maybe too much focus on the gym and not enough focus on conversational skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 12:57 AM
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So what if it has a ceiling? That's what I like about the SMV concept. It's not about blame, or equality or fairness. It's just, maximize what you do have, then accept what you can get in the marketplace. If someone is born such they fall very low in the marketplace, after maximizing everything they can, that's just nature. But I think the number of people high or low in the marketplace is pretty sparse.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 12:51 AM
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Hmm well self-improvement is about improving the "self", but the term itself doesn't imply motivation or reward outcomes. In the context of SMV (and TRP I guess) it is indeed to increase market value to others. But, if you then end up with a good mate, it still benefits the self.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 12:42 AM
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Self improvement itself is not complex. Understanding self-improvement in the context of value in a marketplace is useful. Because it's cold and analytical and takes away guilt and blame. It's literally about finding a buyer who values what the seller is offering, and vice versa. That's much different than "leagues", in my opinion, but still implies some natural stratification.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 06:56 AM
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I think SMV is much more interesting because it is a reference to economic theory in relation to mating. I'm very very far from many TRP concepts (especially AWALT and evolutionary psychology pseudo-crap), but I think the one that is really useful and realistic is SMV, especially for young men and women understanding that optimizing SMV by self-improvement just makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 06:16 AM
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It's not even sex or romance as such, it's having healthy relationships. Humans are social animals, it's fundamental to our psychology and health. We can survive without relationships, but to be healthy and thrive, we need them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 01:01 AM
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People evolved for 6 million years to meet face to face to evaluate mating attraction. Using apps to pair, via a picture and description, is bizarre, and wrong in so many ways. Take classes where women might be, attend meetups, take jobs, even volunteer, where women might be. Socialize, learn how to talk to them, learn how to hone presentation skills. Do what it takes, but do it in person, away from the screen.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 08:10 AM
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Here's better advice. Don't do dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 05:47 AM
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My head has not been in the sand. In many ways society is much more conservative than 50 years ago. Maybe you need to read some history books.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 01:39 PM
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I don't think the times or the women are that different. Except the bizarre online dating world. I don't know what you think people were like in the 70s and 80s. You didn't think "such a woman" existed in droves in my time?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 07:26 AM
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If they eat them with catsup, absolutely that's the end of the relationship. No one would question this.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 06:29 AM
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There's a pretty wide gulf between "addicted" (which, btw, implies there are likely deeper problems), and having had some previous experiences, which some men in this forum might deem promiscuous. And keep in mind how much people change as they become more mature. I assume you are holding yourself to the same standards?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 12:08 AM
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Y'know, my wife is a religious Catholic who has been quite "faithful" to me, we have children and have lived a good life for 40 years. Wtf are you talking about? I think you badly missed my point, or I badly miscommunicated. My point is, a good relationship starts (and potentially ends) on many many more things than past "promiscuity", so don't start there.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 09:31 PM
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Hmm, well, speaking of acting all superior, maybe you kids could learn a thing or two from those with some experience. And I didn't say morals and values don't matter. I said starting with a judgement based on perceived "promiscuity" is missing out on the main show, especially since it's often not a two way street. Sure, you do you. I hope you find what you're looking for.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 09:23 PM
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I didn't miss your point. Don't need no medicine and am damn proud to be a grandpa. Hope you can say the same some day!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 09:11 PM
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If she "cheated" and we didn't have some prior agreement, that would be a violation of trust, and that would be a big problem. Btw, "cheating" and prior "promiscuity" are very different things. I'm not judging. I'm begging you kids to look at each other as humans, instead of stereotypes.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 03:40 PM
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You think women have changed much in the past 40 years? If anything morals were much looser in the 70s and 80s. And yet, I never queried about a woman's "body count" or thought it was any of my business what she may have done with others. I just talked with her and did things with her and discovered if a positive relationship was blooming or not. "Cheating" was never a worry in my case, not because they were "promiscuous" or not, but because we developed mutual trust and knew who we were. It's n…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 02:19 PM
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As an older guy, married for 40 years, this kind of talk makes me totally nauseous. Who raises you guys? Do you really measure women by their "promiscuity", instead of the chemistry you have with them, the dynamics of your relationship, and the kindness of their souls? Are you really so shallow?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 02:51 AM
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Believe me, I'm in MUCH better shape as a mid 60 y/o than many many young men in their 20s these days. Not sure about "average 20 year old" but maybe even that. I can probably perform in bed better than a lot of them too. Now, I've definitely been declining in terms of potential since 35 or so I would guess. But what matters for sexual health is cardiovascular health, overall physical health including staying away from drugs and alcohol, to some degree mental health (especially as regards anxiet…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 12:54 AM
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Oh and thanks for all the down votes everyone for asking two questions.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 04:47 AM
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Great thanks for the links, now we have something to work with. Let me start with a quote from one of them, "Men rarely seek custody of their children". And you said " men want kids in order to have the legacy and check the box but a lot aren't so keen on the work that's involved.". But I don't think the statement in the article that was cutting studies necessarily correlates to your statement. I think you are saying you infer that men rarely seek custody of their children because a lot aren't s…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 04:46 AM
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Where do you get those stereo types from? And where do you get your statistics about custody cases?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 10:11 PM
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At the age of 16, people make choices to achieve what they want. If a guy doesn't get enough sex by age 30, and his overall values revolve around the volume of sex, I don't have too much sympathy (unless there's some sort of abnormality involved). If a woman's goal is to have babies by 30 or so, and she's not hooked up with a solid mate by then, I likewise don't have much sympathy for her (and I think the number of partners she's had is totally irrelevant) (and likewise, unless there's some spec…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 12:44 AM
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I dunno, I don't think I associate it politically at all. Open marriages back in my day might have been associated with the Playboy set? But I guess I associate polyamory with cult type situations? And cults I tend to associate with the right. I guess I know one older couple with an open marriage who are indeed liberal. But, like I said, I may be well out of touch with the polyamory scene. Not something I would ever consider doing nor I particularly think it's a good idea. (I would classify myse…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 08:54 PM
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I've never ever associated polyamory with liberalism, maybe I've just not kept up. Guns and militarism I associate with right nationalism, that is true enough, though I know tons of liberals who carry. And frankly I think there's a pretty thin line between the far left and the far right. Conservatism is something different though. That would be your guy in a business suite Mitt Romney type of guy, either church-goer and/or Wall Street Conservative economics supply-side economics kind of guy. Muc…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 08:22 PM
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Yeah so stereotypes have little to do with reality, except when people are acting out those stereotypes. The myth of conservatism being associated with masculinity or visaversa is complete hogwash.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 08:01 PM
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Politics is personal, especially these days. Don't ever think it isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 07:55 PM
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Well, be whatever you wanna be. But understand if you bring no value to the marketplace, you're probably going to justifiably leave empty handed. That's not the blue pill or the red pill or any other pill. That's good ol cowboy talk, economics 101. Just the facts, ma'am.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 11:55 PM
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If being yourself is unhealthy and bloated, mentally unstable, stupid, financially broke, and needy, then yeah, you're not delivering much value. I could say the exact same thing about women. What is "who most men actually are" anyway? Who you are doesn't just happen. At least 50% of who you are is who you make yourself to be. Sure, be yourself, but work towards being a better, healthier, version of yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 09:29 PM
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I'm not sure all you people understand how much the world of the human has changed in the last 40 years. All of the sudden we plug humanity into INSTANT global communication free and overwhelming access to the all the world's information and misinformation. Add to that the globe playing musical migration chairs, kids living in cars instead of healthy exercise and fresh air. Add to that very real potential for global catastrophe with climate change. Add to that the total collapse in many countrie…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 05:36 AM
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Actually, no, I don't know what your point was. I thought maybe you were just quipping. Believe me, I'm not being dishonest, intellectually or otherwise. I was talking about hard work making yourself healthier in body, then mind, and then socially. Zero to do with working for someone else, or the situations where people are taken advantage of, either in explicit slave situations or defacto slavery caused by poverty and exploitation by the rich. "Work like hell" means work like hell to improve yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 06:17 AM
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Even as I am near retirement, I know the work will always be hard and never end, to my dying breath. I will have plenty of time to enjoy rest in my coffin. I am the slave driver, my body and mind are the slaves. Life is good.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 01:07 AM
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What "people" just assume that? These things are freaking hard. What gets me is these guys just seem to whine and complain, instead of rolling up their sleeves to do that really hard work.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 05:21 AM
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It likely will take more than "months at the gym" in any case. I just made another post above this thread that claims that getting fit is a first step to achieving better mental and social health, which is a firm step (not the only steps) to achieving a compelling personality. But it does take some patience and persistence over time.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 05:13 AM
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Getting in shape is a little more than just "improving your looks". A large aspect of personality is mental health. Getting in shape improves your physical health, and being physically healthy and active improves the health of your brain, and ultimately your mental health. Even in terms of things like making you tired so hopefully you sleep better at night, and improve sleep hygiene. Being active outdoors increases vitamin D and sunlight triggers some hormone responses in the brain. Being fit ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 05:05 AM
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So there's no white Muslims? Ok, enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 03:47 PM
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I'm not mistaking terms. If you notice, I use the term "head coverings" to qualify what I mean. And overall my views aren't restricted to head coverings, but how women are required to dress, and how they're treated generally. I understand that treatment is not uniform among countries and sects. Many predominantly Muslim countries are quite modern and treat women very very well. They are well educated and have good prominent positions. I work with some of the Muslim women from these countries and…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 06:27 AM
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I guess you would first have to define "The Muslim World", and also define that in terms of fundamentalist vs. more open. Then I'd want to look at the actual data, and decide what "optional" really means for each of these countries. Optional by law? Optional in locality? Optional in family? So then the question becomes, of the women who wear head coverings, what percentage of them have true choice? Yes, a simple scarf that I see as denigration and suppression creeps me out. A swastika creeps me …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 04:25 AM
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Then all Islamic countries and Islamic families should let the female choose what she wants to wear. To me, U.S. white male of many generations in the U.S., hijabs and facial coverings just CREEP ME OUT. Because to me they represent suppression and lack of choice. Everything I don't believe in. That's not a "double standard". I'm not going to judge any woman for what she wears. But I am going to judge a culture that treats women as lesser human beings, and implies that their bodies, and the expr…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 03:41 AM
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Have you lived with someone who snores loudly? It is absolutely deadly to your life, and to a relationship. It is not even close to a minor issue. Not to mention the snoring person maybe having sleep apnea. Sex, and sex drive, and psychological health, requires physical health. And physical health requires sleep. And in terms of those "other issues", lookup "feedback effect". In the end, it may be one in a symphony of issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 03:17 AM
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No, not even close. Well, for men, ED can be caused by so many things. For both low sex drive can be caused by so many health issues. Add feedback effects. Add snoring and subsequent lack of sleep (really a health issue too). Add stress from work. Raw attraction to each other might be a pretty small part of the puzzle. Generalizations are not useful in the bedroom.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 02:18 AM
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If only it were that simple. Recalculate for competing power centers and many bad actors
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 10:10 PM
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Yep. And I'm not a woman. The whole thing is stupid. I don't think I'll need to read my post to know where people like you are coming from.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 10:56 PM
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Some in-shape people can have really low value. Some fat people can have quite high value. People are more than their body shape, or how they look in a photograph. Why measure people that way? What's the point? I cringed in the video when the large woman gave herself a value of 10 and the guys laughed. The result of young people raised on movies and TV and YouTube instead of real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 09:59 PM
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The whole concept of rating people on a 0-10 scale is completely ludicrous. Including the "mediocre white man" phrase, it's all stupid. Which is not to say there aren't sexual marketplace value metrics. There are. They're just much much more complex and dynamic and always from the perspective of the buyer and what's available.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 09:26 PM
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By "sexual" I just meant acting a bit flirtatious. Women are allowed to be who they are in my world. I don't own my wife. I trust her not to betray my trust, but I also understand that each life is a grand experiment, and people aren't perfect. I don't hold my wife "accountable", she's not a child or a pet. I didn't have the "right" to know her secrets. Women tend to get a stable partner and then have "fun" with other guys. Women don't "tend" to do that. You've been hanging out on Reddit too muc…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 08:13 AM
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I don't think so? Though I certainly got caught checking other women out often enough. I wasn't really that kind of guy. In any case my wife always told me "as long as you go home with me", and I think the same about her. I mean do you seriously expect partners not to be attracted to other people?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 04:21 AM
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I've been married for around 35 years. Never worried about it too much. If she did fool around on me, I would just as soon not know about it. But would she seem sexual around other men sometimes? Sure. Did I feel a flush of jealousy sometimes? Sure. But, as far as I know, I was the best man on the market for her. We've done alright. I don't think we had particularly loose boundaries. She's not a horse I feel I need to fence in. We've had something called... trust.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 03:02 AM
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I'm an old guy, we're about to become grandparents. If she wants to cheat on me now, I won't be too upset. And no, with my attitude you won't get cheated on unless you're a controlling pill who is totally insecure. In which case, yes she'll be out shopping for something better every single day, you can be sure. No amount of being a control freak will stop her.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 02:52 AM
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Boy are you ever setting yourself up for a messed up head.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 01:42 AM
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Perfectly stated. For myself, though a totally hetro monogamous male, I would never tell my partner she could not be sexual in public or flirt in a controlled way. God, let people feel joy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 01:41 AM
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It's been a while, there may be better more recent ones, but here are the two I listened to from Audible: https://www.audible.com/pd/The-Fine-Art-of-Small-Talk-Audiobook/B00UUQGCEC?action_code=ASSGB149080119000H&share_location=pdp https://www.audible.com/pd/How-Conversation-Works-6-Lessons-for-Better-Communication-Audiobook/B00DEK2G46?action_code=ASSGB149080119000H&share_location=pdp One new title that looks interesting that's on my current queue to listen to is this one: Listen to Improve Your …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 03:42 PM
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So you asked a question, and don't care about the answer? You asked a question about social skills. To develop social skills, or any skill, it takes deliberate practice. Practice of something new means "artificial and forced" until you've learned the skill, at which point it becomes second nature. Social skills are no different from playing music or cooking or juggling.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 03:19 PM
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Oh and in terms of mutual interest and effort, that's part of the social skill set, being able to coax someone out of their shell.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 03:03 PM
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You asked specifically where one can go to learn social skills. I gave you specific pointers to learn conversation skills. I don't know where you live, but the opportunity should be widely available to have conversations with strangers or non-strangers to you through work, coffee shops, school or just taking classes, hobby focused Meetup groups, hanging out at your local library, or solo travel like I mentioned. Hell, you can practice with your family. Don't focus on girls, just practice the art…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 03:01 PM
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If you look in Audible or just do a search on Amazon books, there are a bunch of books about how to become a good conversationalist. Highly recommend to listen to some of them. I actually did this for traveling, I want to be able to have good conversations with people I meet casually as I travel solo. Those books can also lead you to other social skills, like learning to read signals.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 02:45 PM
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My point is online over the screen filtering is a poor substitute for meeting someone in person. And I'm simply disagreeing with your post.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 07:07 PM
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Physical attraction is based on many things, and not just visual. And even for visual, photographs don't do a great job representing how a person will come off in person. And I don't think people decide the matter in seconds.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 03:57 AM
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Rare where? I know lots of women who aren't obsessed, or even interested, in social media. Also define obsessed? And what is this "rare" statistic based on? Is this from your personal social circle? Or YouTube videos? Or some scientific research perhaps? Do tell.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 05:58 AM
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I'm curious what's your social circle for so many "abusive men"? I couldn't tell if this was from personal experience or something else. What age range and social status? What is the level of education? These are genuine questions. As an older married male I am just an observer from the peanut gallery. Most of the young men (and women) I meet at work or through my children seem sincere and smart, and have good relationships. I mean the jerks are out there, sure, but they are a small minority I w…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 06:56 AM
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Fair point I suppose.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 09:22 PM
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Interesting, I always thought that David was held up as the ideal male proportions. If not David, do you have another example of classical balanced health and fitness with ideal proportions?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 07:14 PM
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What matters to both sexes is health, and generally being fit in a well rounded way. This principle is likewise for mental health. I generally treat evolutionary psychology with a grain of salt, but in this case it makes a lot of sense. For males, the statue of David, not pumped up Arnold so much. But finding someone who you're comfortable with is also really important, and may override other factors. So maybe that explains the "Dad bod" thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 06:52 PM
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I'm convinced that many of most of the young men here, maybe anyone under 50, are basically trained on video games and movies. They really don't know anything but that. I hear all the time on this sub "women do this and women do that" and I don't know where they get it from. My experience is that life is a huge hodge-podge of ever changing chaotic individuals. Which is beautiful. If men want to know the right sequence of buttons, they should just pursue physical, mental, and social health for th…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 07:01 AM
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Maybe, but I think they may more likely get accused of pushing their (the mentor's agenda). And in a lot of cases that may be true. One way to have a sort of power is to gain followers. So it's tricky.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 03:43 AM
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Exactly. Personally all those pictures look damn good to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 06:41 PM
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Yeah I've seen those numbers. But what do they mean? I've known many pretty lonely women that I don't know how they'd report to such a survey. And I've known many men who really do wallow in their own self pity, and could easily find mates in those single stock women. The mates might actually match them in sexual market value, and not be your magazine model, but they're there for sure. After all, the 2020 estimate for male to female is approximately 101 males to 100 females. I guarantee you that…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 04:44 AM
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Most men can find a relationship also. I really don't find that much difference between the two genders.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 08:57 PM
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Childhood attachment issues? Are you getting this from college psych class or you just spend too much time on the Internet? People are all different, and have tremendously complex reaction and attraction mechanisms, changing all the time. Add things like pheromone responses. Like trying to boil a large neural network in AI to simple mechanisms, the brain and body is 1,000,000 times more complex than that. To the human mind, it's rightfully magic. And trying to boil it down to something like "chi…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 08:55 PM
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You have a point. However, consider if I made that argument about President Clinton taking advantage of his "value" with young intern Monica Lewinsky. Hey, it's the sexual marketplace, so it's ok (disregarding the whole infidelity thing). There is some point where going to another country where your "value" is higher, becomes a power advantage, beyond normal competition. Maybe it's ok in blind reading of open sexual economics, but it makes me squeamish. "If those left over men are truly that ter…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/23 04:23 PM
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You made the jump to slavery, not me. But to say that impoverished women are empowered and have "plenty of control" is quite a leap from the poster's rant about how women there outnumber men by quite a bit. I quote "in the cleanse of El Salvador, it ruined the dating market for women. So now, the young men-to-women ratio is way off. It is horrible over there. Dating is truly tragic unless you are a guy from the West". Also implied is that El Salvadorian women don't have "obesity, obnoxiousness, …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/23 04:04 PM
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What you said again is what I said you said. Great rant about metrics regarding human beings, as if their "value" to expectations of men raised in misogynistic cultures is what matters. And your stereotyping of "Western" women is almost as bad as your stereotyping of El Salvadorian women. Hey maybe the Western male can just order a mail order bride from a third world country, she'll be completely docile to his wishes, unless poisoned by those nasty "Western" women. As I said, incredibly cringe.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/23 04:12 AM
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Oh you're right you said it was better for men to deal with poor impoverished desperate women than dealing with "Western" women who have some control and choice in their lives. I stand corrected.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/23 03:17 AM
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Ugh, so El Salvador is so much better because of poor impoverished desperate women? Cringe.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/23 02:34 AM
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Better by what measure? And sometimes they might seem better, the grass always seems greener over the fence, but even then, as long as your grass is green enough to keep you nourished and fulfilled.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 09:50 PM
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The thing is, love is only a bit about how well the other person fits what you initially want. Love, and a relationship, is something that is built, and that you continue to construct over time. That's why arranged marriages can tend to do pretty well. If, on the other hand, your spouse ends up being repulsive to you, that's a bit more challenging.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 09:45 PM
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I'm curious what is the culture context here? Your experience is not what I observe in my white middle class U.S. culture. Is your cultural context different? And how might that influence what you're observing?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 12:38 AM
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True, I just inferred it from your remark about not appreciating them. Apologies.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 05:57 AM
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Well, you're right you can't flip a switch. But there are ways to learn new perspectives, and ways to expose yourself to different experiences than the ones you've had. Try doing things in random exploratory ways, different from your comfort zone, and see what happens over time. Walk 100 miles to another city, or join some really awful meetup that discusses history in medieval times, or I dunno what. Just meet people in wider circumstances. Maybe you'll end up hating them more. But maybe you'll …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 05:44 AM
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You don't have to be, probably.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 05:17 AM
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You know that can be changed, right? Like anything, some training is required, and brutal exposure is required, same for all anxiety.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 05:16 AM
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Wait, if you are calling what you said data and statistics, then name your references and let's discuss how that data is gathered, analyzed, and interpreted. Because I certainly am not aware of any such data. If you make things up from watching mentally ill YouTube rants based on cherry picked college study by stoned interns, that's not data or statistics.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 04:35 AM
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I dunno, you seem to live in a completely different space-time reality from ANYTHING I observe. Where DO you get this b.s.?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 04:07 AM
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Well let's see, someone is on a dating app, where their only real clue to who the person is, is a visual picture. Then you're drawing data that they pick for visual attributes? That's so bizarre I don't know what to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 06:17 AM
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And I'm describing 45 years ago. The OP was asking about "the past". I don't think it changed all that much over the years. Probably more differentiated by economic context, cultural context, and the like, than time. But, from my perspective, the Internet and the advent of massive global communication, along with evolved social morals in most (?) places, i.e. the push for society to be more accepting, has only made things better.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 10:56 PM
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" and few kids left elementary or even high school with no social sphere and no friends" ... are you freaking kidding me? Do you think it was all "leave it to beaver"? The social circle-jerk machine was MUCH stronger then, with much less education about treating your peers with kindness. Kids were nasty, and I mean real nasty. High school girls were 100 times more stupid and more inclined to be hurtful. If you were a little different or odd in any way, you were OUT. Where do you get this from? A…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 09:29 PM
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Just give it time with someone you build trust with. As a male, when I was young, I would get anxious with a woman, and it would cause the package not to rise, if you know what I mean. It wasn't body dysmorphia or anything like that, I was just nervous, performance anxiety I think. It was traumatic at the time. After a while I learned that I needed to slow down and get to know the woman before hopping into bed, and then it was fine. After a while, I think I became comfortable enough that it wasn…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 11:15 PM
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She’s probably enjoying it in the same way she might enjoy a sex toy. I don't even begin to understand this statement. Because she's self conscious about visuals? Huh? Where did this come from?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 11:02 PM
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No it means she's self conscious which can cause anxiety and the number one inhibitor of libido is anxiety. So, if she does that, until she feels more comfortable with her partner, she's just trying to maximize her own enjoyment. The male can do a lot to change this over time but, y'know, you just have to work with your partner to make it work for both of you. If she asks for the lights out, the male can work on how it feels with more touch and perhaps talking and moaning, and less visuals.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 11:00 PM
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Wow.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 11:50 PM
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Actually not true. People can make transformations and do. Some people actually do get more attractive as they mature a bit... I've seen it. This whole thing about who is "attractive" and "good looking". Sheesh.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 12:32 AM
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In general it's not acceptable in the company I keep to shame anyone for their weight, or any other "issue" they might have. For instance, in sensitivity training at work they would not mention gender in this respect. As for "activists", I think you've seen in the past that women were especially shamed for fat bodies, where with men it was less of a problem, they might instead be referred to as "stocky". As psychologists are becoming more aware of issues with young men, you might find this chang…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 03:46 AM
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Oh I think a lot of jobs that are dangerous that women do. The one came to mind because I know someone, and know what she went through. But this is a silly conversation in any case. Peace out.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 02:56 PM
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You don't think the nurses working in a disability hospital is a dangerous job? Wow.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 04:47 AM
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Pretty sad people use the term "baggage" for children. Everyone has baggage, but I don't think children are baggage. So yeah, if you think of children as baggage please stay as far away from them and their mothers as possible. No wonder there's so many screwed up kids around.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 11:49 PM
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Meh. Probably porn is the major factor that results in dead bedrooms, obesity (effects hormones), bad hygiene, and ill mental and physical health. Attraction tends to grow, as long as the other person is making an actual effort. I really don't think the initial attraction is that major of a factor.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 04:06 PM
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Self improvement, being a little bit better today than yesterday, is a basic tenet that I live by, everyday of my life. This was true when I was 16, in my 30s, now that I'm in my mid 60s, and will be true in my 90s. Competing against myself. Gives me a reason to live. Much much more than some illusion of happiness. Does living that way make you more attractive? Is it a predictor of success? Yes. Will it absolutely ensure you'll end up with a hot mate? Of course not. Does the tenet apply more for…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 03:56 PM
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People I know who have vowed not to have kids feel that, why have kids who will suffer horrible lives from direct or indirect effects of climate change? A lot of younger people I know feel were living in apocalyptic times.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 03:40 PM
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Well, I like enzymes and substrates better than simple averages, for sure. But I don't think it's as one sided as that. Nor do I think it's that hard to have something to offer. "just having a close seXual relationship with someone who he finds attractive... is enough". I'm considering this. Maybe for fairly young men? But I think most men will tolerate a certain amount of unattractiveness if the woman has other things to offer, like a shared interest, or any number of personality traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 05:12 AM
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You made an assertion, not an observation.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 04:51 AM
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Where do you get that from? Do you have some sort of massive data lake that measures physical and personality attributes and averages them based on math from most desirable to least desirable? Wow, you should share that. And what country and region of the country? I think, if you're looking at physical fitness, for instance, the average might be different in Germany vs. West Virginia USA. Or within the USA, Washington state vs. Alabama? Is "average" fit and healthy, or overweight? Oh, what age r…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 03:45 AM
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There's no guarantee that bringing a woman a bar of chocolate everyday, or doing other persistent efforts, will be successful. There's always a certain amount of risk, always has been. Especially if a male can't read signals, then that behavior may be well be seen as creepy and unwelcome. But I bet if your female friend were in the 1950s or 1960s, or 1860s, she would have felt the same thing. The rules have not changed. Only the power of the woman to respond to how she feels has changed. And als…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 01:04 AM
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And, by the way, my "rant" was absolutely responsive to your point.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 12:55 AM
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You're just on another planet from reality. Seriously, try to meet some real people. Average women, or even above average women, are certainly receptive to average men, if the women are on the market, and the male has something to offer that the woman finds valuable. End of story. She has no inclination or obligation to mate based on just "averageness", sheesh. If an "average" male has nothing to offer another "average" female, he is, by definition, not average. I don't know where you get your r…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 12:53 AM
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Eh, per who the average man voted for, I think you live in a particular part of the country. I think you might be off about the other statistics too.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 12:07 AM
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I was gonna remark the same thing. That was an insensitive unfortunate statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 11:58 PM
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I actually struggled all my life with freezing up around the woman I liked. It was really a physical thing, hard to control. It wasn't like I didn't have something to say, I just froze up. I had to work at it. At some point later in life I actually read some books about having conversations with strangers. One trick I learned is to always ask people about themselves. And when they ask me questions, try to find something to ask them back. And also make observations about the surroundings. These m…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 11:47 PM
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Hogwash. It's the same story as when I was younger, many years ago. While women have gotten smarter, and perhaps more empowered, the basic principles of flirtation, courtship, and attraction haven't changed. Really, get off your phone and out into the real world.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 11:31 PM
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What the hell are you talking about? A woman meets tons of average men. She only goes out with a few, maybe forms relationships that last years or a lifetime with those that display SOMETHING that makes him attractive to that particular woman. That's "unrealistic" goals? Stop reading statistics and get out in the real world.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 11:16 PM
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So, just to be clear, if I date a woman, she can judge me on my height and personality and dick girth and how I dress and if I pick my nose and whatever else she wants. But my past history, what choices I've made, are part of my journey, and I don't have to explain that journey or be judged on it by a prospective date or anyone else. And if I have a "body count" of zero or 100, I don't need to be judged about "poor choices" or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/23 02:52 PM
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Well the 1950s were pretty promiscuous times. But, really, most decades were not very Victorian, not even the Victorian era. This whole "virgin" thing is about screwed up religion based on treating women as property, and hebephilia. The whole body count thing is based on deep insecurities. No self respecting person should ask a prospective date what their "body count" is. Sheesh.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/23 02:09 PM
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You can measure someone how you want, but history and height are two very different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/23 12:08 PM
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Or you could meet a person and measure them by their totality, and if they form a good chemistry with you? Or is that just crazy talk?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/23 12:05 PM
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It doesn't matter if virginity is a rarity or not. The concept of measuring a human being by their virginity or body count is appalling on the face of it. I'm now beginning to truly understand why the current male generation is so screwed up.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/23 04:17 AM
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In that case, say hello to your hand. Warm and always friendly, will give you exactly what you want. I mean, why would you take a human being and boil them down to virgin/not-virgin? Or rate them on body count, as though they're a dog you're looking to buy? How degrading is that? I would advise any woman, whether they're pure as the Madonna, or have serviced the football team, to never go within a mile of someone that "requires a virgin". Ugh. Blech. (From an older married hetro male, that's stu…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/23 04:11 AM
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In that case, say hello to your hand. Warm and always friendly, will give you exactly what you want. I mean, why would you take a human being and boil them down to virgin/not-virgin? Or rate them on body count, as though they're a dog you're looking to buy? How degrading is that? I would advise any woman, whether they're pure as the Madonna, or have serviced the football team, to never go within a mile of someone that "requires a virgin". Ugh. Blech. (From an older married hetro male, that's stu…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 10:24 PM
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To be fair, I think software engineering used to be a bit more cool.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 02:34 AM
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I'm case you haven't been told. Your posts are really hard to read because of the length of the sentences.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 12:12 AM
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I don't know, while the window washer might have a PhD in physics, in general window washers don't have to work to become window washers in the same way a teacher has to work hard to become certified to become a teacher. Personally I'll put a teacher, especially a teacher of kids, on a pedestal. All jobs deserve respect, but, sorry, not equal respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 04:11 AM
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Sorry. I deleted my post.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 03:00 AM
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I swear to God these posts are from 14 year olds.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 02:47 AM
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Not quite. A healthy relationship that includes decent sex is the goal. Nobody needs a trophy to show off.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/23 06:24 PM
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And poor guys have put in more effort than rich guys. Etc. You have a certain value when you're born, and your job is to increase that value as best you can. 'tis life and nothing more.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/23 05:13 AM
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Who said life was fair? You can wank off, or do what it takes. The difference between loosing, and succeeding. Your choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/23 05:08 AM
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They probably look better than their own hand on their dick. Is it a contest?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/23 05:03 AM
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Looking for someone to bear your child is not the same thing as the open sexual marketplace. Age does matter for "breeding" as the chances for having mutation problems (that can lead to autism, etc.) tend to go up. But the same is true, to a lesser extent, for men. If you wanna breed, better to do it at an optimum age for the best outcome. " The thing is though the buyers' first preference is 20 somethings.".. nope. Speak for yourself. One of the points of these discussions is young physical bea…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 10:42 PM
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" women's SMV start to drop considerably after late 20s/early 30s." ...nope. First of all, the sexual market changes when you get older. The sexual market for a 30 Year old is just different. SMV, which is all relative, doesn't drop, just some of the buyers change. And I don't know if you've looked around, but there are very very VERY attractive women in their 30s and 40s, by any male libido standards. SMV is mostly a matter of how well the person takes care of themselves, how healthy they are p…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 05:09 AM
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Why are you lecturing her what's what? Don't you think she's a bit better judge?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 04:54 AM
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But where how do you conclude that it is a buyer's (women's) market? In 2021, the population sex ratio in the U.S. was 98 males per 100 females. By 2050, it is expected to be 99. So it is roughly equal buyers to sellers. And I would postulate the value is equal men vs. women... the equality of value is more so these days, since women can be bread winners too. In your analogy, the male has only to do the same thing, be willing to be a renter for longer while "while offering $300K to all the $600K…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/23 04:44 PM
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Which part of that said they did not respect social "norms"? Which part said they did not show respect and kindness and empathy? Which part said that woman did not feel safe around them? Which part said they were psychopathic? What the post said is they were willing to easily risk rejection. They were not afraid. They did not project neediness. They were willing to go out on a limb, and were not bruised if the woman was not responsive. Most particularly, that type of person learns quickly to rea…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/23 05:13 AM
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No. Not at all. Just means being willing to take risks. Doesn't mean being "dark" or being a manipulative jerk.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/23 04:04 AM
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I really am skeptical the market is as lopsided as you're asserting. For " height, facial structure, hair etc." those can be compensated and there are woman to match out there. There really are. Those that don't believe that are never gonna make progress. We don't need a freaking war or for the government to manipulate the gender numbers! You young people are going kooky. You're so privileged you have no idea what real suffering means, especially war. But I'll agree to your B. Men should work on…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/23 02:58 AM
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What TRP and similar BS teaches that is useful is the concept of the sexual/mating/relationship marketplace, and understanding your value in terms of simple economics. You gotta have value to offer, with lowish risk, and a buyer that will value what you have to offer enough that it will be worth the risk for them. And visa-versa. And these transactions will vary greatly individual to individual. That's it. Improve yourself one way or the other, and choose your buyer according to your goals. All …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/23 01:25 AM
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First of all, I would argue that 300 pounds is obese and importantly not healthy, something different from curvy. Second I believe the obsession with having no fat is fairly recent, and definitely cultural. Third, who cares what magazines declare as "sex symbols", who gives a rats ass about Bond girls? That is MARKETING, not a definition of the "norm". A magazine is certainly not going to dictate when my dick gets hard! The "norm" doesn't matter, why are you even talking about it? We're all exce…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 05:26 AM
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This.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 05:02 AM
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Uh, no, not a fetish. Maybe cultural. Supermodels generally are thin things, and don't get me too excited. I've also met normal weight woman that are not conventionally attractive that make me crazy crazy excited. As well as fuller figure, not obese, woman. Nothing to do with fetish. Just brain chemistry and maybe some environmental factors, maybe some cultural factors.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 05:01 AM
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As capitalist employers increasingly tries to pump all the air out of each of us, most jobs are high stress these days. Another reason people are just bailing from the work force. The cost is too high, the risks too great. (Sorry, I'm in a mood. Feeling guilty I'm not at my laptop working right now.)
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 01:39 AM
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Oh, "a study". Well that's the last word on it then.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 04:55 AM
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Let me push back a bit. In longer term relationships, stress can really take it's toll. And mental abuse can occur without physical violence, or driven by substance abuse. With mental abuse it's a much finer line whether the partner should stay or go. So while I agree probably with your 90%, stress can be like a drug too, and is much less predictable.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 04:10 AM
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How many kids did you say you had? And great, if you're really gonna do 50% of the work. Definitely you don't want no "bum chick" at home all day. But in the majority of the households, men aren't doing 50% of the work, even if the woman holds a "real job" and earns more than the male.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/22 04:42 AM
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They're still expected to do all that stuff, even if they have a full-time "real job" (really? You said "real job"?). Look around. It's 2022, and 44,000 years of misogyny doesn't just disappear.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/22 04:17 AM
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The other 25% are the minority of good, kind people And, btw, I don't think it has anything to do with "good and kind". It's just about sexual marketplace economics. Looks are just one aspect of value on the marketplace. If you're waiting for anyone to be "kind" in a way that violates their own self interests, it won't happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 06:18 AM
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I can't put myself in your shoes, or know what you've been through. But you said you are an outlier. And I can't know from your description of anecdotal percentages how much those involve issues that are not looks. Obviously there's a catch 22 with things like looks and confidence and the desperation factor. I know I have a friend who is probably also an outlier in the looks department, and he's also fairly obese. But he has definite personality issues as well. I'm sure he blames his problems wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 06:09 AM
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That must of required a lot of thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 12:22 AM
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What do you base this on, that's not online dating data? I just don't at all agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 12:19 AM
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I've never understood cold approaching in general (male here). The woman I've been with I've always met situationally, i.e. the prime purpose not hooking up. I agree with your last paragraph. I guess that was my point, looks vs. personality. Personality CAN overcome not the most ideal looks for men or women, if you can get past the looks gate. That's why online dating or cold approach bar culture are not great strategies for finding a mate.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 12:16 AM
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By "unattractive" I am assuming you're referring to visual attributes? What about an "unattractive man" interacting with you without specific "romantic intent"? If said male displays confidence, humor, intelligence, conversational skills, mental health, kindness, and basic physical health, might that unattractive male become attractive to some extent? Or would the "league" thing and perhaps the opinions of your league friends simply make him a non-starter?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/22 05:22 PM
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Most males are more visually oriented than woman. So they project into women and think they are the same. But for both males and females, physical attractiveness is often based largely on personality. You can't base who a woman is attracted to based on online dating swipes! A male displaying confidence, mental health, intelligence, humor, kindness, self sufficiency, social skills, and physical health can easily find a mate if they get out into the real world.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/22 05:07 PM
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Why are so many posts about "most woman", with the poster acting as if they're some authority?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/22 05:18 AM
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So why would you tell him, it's none of his business. Do people really go around comparing body counts?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/22 04:17 AM
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I just don’t like whiny people with no agency. Best statement ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/22 04:01 AM
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People had sex with one partner, and had many children. Um, ok. Seriously, there's lots of information on the history of human kind. Ok, try this from https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monogamy : "According to the Ethnographic Atlas by George P. Murdock, of 1,231 societies from around the world noted, 186 were monogamous; 453 had occasional polygyny; 588 had more frequent polygyny; and 4 had polyandry.". But, besides this, not everybody are parents, yet they still have some form of sex. Even for m…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 09:08 PM
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You must live in a different real world than me. There's a lot of that going around.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 06:25 AM
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The "pill" certainly lowered the bar for having casual sex. But it is not like people weren't screwing outside marriage all along. Or that contraceptives of one form or the other didn't exist before 1950. And remember we're not just talking post-victorian behavior. And look past European cultures. What exactly do you think existence was like before the pill? Maybe this is a question you can ask to r/AskHistorians. Here is one link about the English to get you started: https://link.medium.com/2rB…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 03:35 AM
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As I said, online dating is a myopic picture of actual reality. If advertising yourself on a hookup service, and having sex with a stranger, on a portal where men far outnumber woman, based swipe photos, then, whatever. But I suggest you try logging off and sticking your head into the real world for a bit, just to see what it's like.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 01:04 AM
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Where do you get your data from? Do you have a data graph of attractive men correlated with same scale attractive women on the x access and how often they fuck different partners, with a significant population size that is not confined to a spring break Twitter poll? You don't because the data doesn't exist. And online dating populations and polls have nothing to do with actual reality. I would bet you that in terms of obesity, males vs females are pretty directly comparable on the sexual market…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 10:07 PM
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I deny overly simplistic causation assertions like "oxytocin release", yes. And yes I don't think your assertion about woman and casual sex is accurate, at least as stated.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 05:29 PM
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Means she can't hook up with anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 05:24 PM
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Gosh you people are scary. Please read some actual history. "oxytocin pathways"? Cripes. Do you just make this stuff up?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 07:01 AM
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any average fat Woman can fuck 100 men I've heard this said here before. I don't think it's actually true? I've known plenty of pretty hard-up woman in my time. I'm not sure where people get this from.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 06:54 AM
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Afford it? I guess you're supposing you take on the expense of her kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 02:17 PM
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See that's what I mean. My wife is not "my woman". Geez, what century do you think you live in? Out of 7.837 billion people, I don't really care about the gene pool at this point. It's fun when a child shares traits with you, but not the most important thing in life. Family love is the most important thing in my book.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 12:53 AM
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Old man here, in my 60s. But when I was young and on the market, a woman having kids was not a problem. I ended up marrying a woman without kids, and have three between us. But what's the big deal? Life is sloppy. If I married a single mom, her kids would become my family. And I would provide for them and support them unconditionally, same as for my kids that share my DNA. Maybe I was just raised in a different time with a different set of values. I don't understand the many "no" posts on this s…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 06:07 PM
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Ah, here's a quote from the red pill handbook: Don't make women (or a woman) the mission of your life. Learn the basics of how to seduce a woman, but don't turn it into your job and profession like "pickup artists" do. Focus on yourself and your mission, and view women as a fun treat on the occasion.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 03:41 AM
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I just spent more than an hour trying to find a definitive answer to this. I couldn't find it, either way. Certainly PUA pre-dated r/TheRedPill. But see https://www.reddit.com/r/Destiny/comments/wph4k8/are_redpill_and_pua_the_same/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button . If Robert Fisher started r/The RedPill, per https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Controversial_Reddit_communities#TheRedPill, was he a PUA follower? I can't find any reference…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 02:18 AM
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I don't think red pill and PUA are at ALL the same. I'm not a pill including the red type, and certainly not a PUA freak, but my reading of RP so-called evolutionary psychology bs is it's a much more holistic world view aimed at improving the whole male. I don't think it actually sprang from the PUA world? It is much more constructive than PUA. As I recall, the RP manifests specifically distanced RP from PUA.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 11:34 PM
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Yeah but what did they look like when they were first dating?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 06:03 AM
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"waste time"? Well, that's your first problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 10:48 PM
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In the first place, maybe you misread my original statement. I said "if they work at it". Same as, if they work at getting a job or any of the other things you said. Second, I said "find a mate". This is not quite the same thing as not having sex. When you get older, maybe you'll understand, and because the older population is getting larger all the time, this is significant. Third of all, because you (or I) barf out a statistic does not make it so. Cite a verifiable reference that tracks how th…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 03:41 PM
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That's because 28% of men aren't working on themselves and actually trying to get a mate.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 05:06 AM
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Yeah there's a lot of classifying human beings "generally" around here, based on whatever anecdotal tropes found on YouTube.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 03:42 AM
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They're not "demanding" fairness. They're rightfully taking their agency. With the full support of men like me and any male who has a shred of actual masculinity. This has nothing to do with men who haven't learned to attract a mate. Wow.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 03:38 AM
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Indeed. You are an awesome philosopher.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 10:41 PM
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Like what? I'm just trying to imagine what you must be imagining and am coming up with nothing. Are you thinking about some sort of dating app or something? Maybe a dating app that hooks you up with a date based on a random number? Isn't that kind of what speed dating does? Either way is just another way of sampling the market place. Ok, I've got something. Fair dating would be not using online dating, but meeting people in real life. There I've done it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 11:09 PM
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Sure, but that's what I did. I can not imagine any "fair" system that is not completely forced. From my reading of messages last night, I don't think I saw any other imaginings. The only fair system that I can imagine is the one we have. Which I think is quite fair, even if sometimes unfortunate for some.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 11:01 PM
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But dating follows marketplace principles. So, is the question that what would it look like if you had forced acquisition and provisioning? Essentially total socialism and forced equality principles applied to the mating marketplace? Ok, fine, it's an exploratory question. But sounds like a dystopian world that most of us would not want to live in. The closest society has ever come is maybe arranged marriages? But that certainly was not fair either, as it depended on class and financial economic…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 05:48 PM
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Grunting is usually enough. I don't have to know every god damn thing that's in someone's head.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 03:42 AM
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Communication is overrated.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 10:30 PM
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Proven false where? Online dating doesn't count, it's not the real world. I'm pretty sure if the chemistry is there at all, and the guy exhibits basic mental health, "average", and even a bit below average, is just fine. There are lots and lots and lots of available woman out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 10:24 AM
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I agree. You notice I mentioned "reasonable social skills". Perhaps I should also mention "reasonably mentally healthy".
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 10:17 AM
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Most men who aren't fat, can hold a job, and have reasonable social skills are usually considered attractive too. So all those woman who are fucking hundreds of guys each have someone to fuck. Pretty neat.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 03:47 AM
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What draft? In any case, war, hanging with your buddies a couple of years at most in country, smoking weed and killing and torturing weaker people, v.s. woman in hard labor raising kids for 20 years. And are you saying men haven't been favored for the last 4000 years? Btw, are any of the guys in this forum living in the Ukraine and fighting an actual war? If you'll notice there's woman and children dying there too.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 03:27 AM
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Hope that works out for you
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 09:24 PM
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The kind of male confidence to read social signals and initiate is kind of what the male vs. female gig is all about. Coming from an old school guy, if you can't even get to the point a risking rejection, if such a person ends up alone, certainly not surprising. The OP post about wanting the woman to just state that she wants to fuck, so funny. This is after 6 million years of evolution?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 04:21 AM
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There's lots of reasons to open books that might have tattered covers. Sure, if you just wanna fuck do OLD and try to match up with one of the 5% really photogenic losers (why else would a person that good looking need to OLD) that the other 95% are drooling over their pictures? Probably will have much better luck at pick up bars or whatever. Being physically good looking certainly matters there. But otherwise, get off of the phone and computer and meet LOTS of real life human beings. Stop worry…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 11:15 PM
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But my point is that whether "attractive" or "chemistry" is more than just visual on a flat surface. If OLD is your fishing pool you're for sure disadvantaged. So don't do that?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 04:06 PM
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You know, it only takes meeting the right person once to keep you happy the rest of your life. Why check out?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 05:44 AM
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I think for men and woman there's a little thing called chemistry. You can't get that from a picture. It's not even just good personality, or looks. Maybe it's smell. But sometimes it just works with a person that you wouldn't have expected it looking at a picture.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 05:40 AM
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Ha, well the military is one way to break out! But, yes, we certainly agree "zoning and lack of walkability would harm the formation of spontaneous relationships". 100%.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 11:06 PM
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The suburbs suck, that's for sure. Still, how do you break out of the cycle of despair they assign you to? Do you build mental and physical health, increase your cardiovascular system which leads to sexual health as well? Or do you stay trapped in a system of car-bubbles where massive number of suburbanites are letting their mental and physical health spin out of control? They designed the system to exploit you. Yes it takes a significant amount of work to break free. It's your choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 10:15 PM
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As a fellow male, I wonder how anyone writing 20 page Reddit posts about the unfairness of their gender ever gets laid? Would ever get laid? Do you expect woman to flock to you, just so sexually excited by hearing this kind of rant? Or maybe you think this will make them want to prove to you just how fair and just the world really can be by sharing a bit of their moist vagina? Or maybe they'll be so greatly impressed by your "well-written and source-backed essay" to the point where they'll just …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 10:06 PM
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Except ride a bike. Join meet up groups. Do anything besides get in a fucking car which increases isolation.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 09:50 PM
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Ok, I only read through some of the ridiculous comments. But, geez. No. Can you hold a conversation? Do you ask questions without seeming too personal? Do you smile without fake smiling? Can you be a little funny and laugh and make others laugh? Can you show some confidence without being a know-it-all? Do you think you communicate mental and physical health? Do you have fresh breath and wear deodorant and shower frequently? Do you present yourself as an interesting person with interests besides …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 05:42 AM
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Google is your friend Apparently not. I found lots of stories that references lots of stuff. Found an article about the survey. What I didn't find is the actual study paper. So, their looks No, their composed photos. Not at all the same as as attraction or not to a living human being. There isn't anything to differentiate these women from the general population . People who do online dating and are jaded by swiping photo after photo, are not representative of the general population, IMHO.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/22 10:57 PM
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It's data about how a subset of woman who use OkCupid perceive composed photos of men. I believe we're referring to the survey, as opposed to the swipe data? So that further colors the data. Do you have a link to the actual study?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/22 12:36 PM
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Yes it is data for a different measurement than was being discussed. I should have said "you think a OkCupid study is applicable to percentage of real world attraction of woman to men?". Bad use of data, IMHO.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/22 08:07 AM
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It's data about woman swiping at posed photos and descriptions in an app, as far as I know? That's not the same thing as metrics about actual female to male attraction. But, I just looked for the actual study and couldn't locate it from googling, so if you have a link, we can talk more detail. My point about it not being data is that it's data about a specific thing from a specific subset of woman who do OkCupid, being generally applied to a more general population and a different aspect to reac…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/22 08:05 AM
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Oh wow oh wow. You think an OK Cupid study is data? Should you maybe take a high school statistics course?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/22 02:43 AM
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There's a difference between making a woman laugh in the course of conversation and flirting, versus being a comedian or clown.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/22 10:26 AM
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Where's the data for that? Is there really "body count" data indexed by body fat? "Body count" is a strange metric. Maybe slender woman retain partners for longer, where as woman with higher body fat have lower "retention rate". I'm just speculating. An interesting factor is that fat decreases testosterone and increases estrogen. For both men and woman that may decrease sex drive. Also, for men in particular, being out of cardiovascular shape may decrease erectile function.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/22 09:50 AM
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I'm just curious if you would expect a guy to tell you if he visited hookers prior to dating you? I mean, if he goes that far, maybe he could get referrals from the hookers?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 05:10 AM
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Well. For one thing, it's really fantastic to have someone care about you. And it's amazing to have someone to care about. Part of it is getting to know each other deeply. It's like going into a forest and finding an gorgeous estate that no one else knows about. And just simple things, like eating together or taking a drive together or grocery shopping together. As in companionship. And the sex is different too. Because you're trying to please each other, and experimenting, in a way you simply c…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 05:03 AM
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Is this really true? I've heard this a lot. But I'm not so sure an overweight woman had an easier time getting laid than an overweight dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 04:38 AM
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Yep, this. Human psychology needs relationships to be healthy. Maybe a dude is getting his social relationships from his bros, and just wants to jiz into a hooker, then that's cool. But I think most of these guys are just lonely, and who can blame them? Trick is to not blame modern society, not to blame woman. But to work on their mental, social, and physical health, and then find the best match-up they can on the mating marketplace.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 04:33 AM
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Who's treating you like a sub-human? As long as you're dealing with fully adult sex workers, and we don't view those sex workers as "victims", and treat them with full respect, then you're good. Legalization and regulation would help a lot. Also, who's treating sex workers as "heros"? First I've ever heard that. Where have you been hanging out? Are you living in some strange movie or TV series?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 04:19 AM
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The funny thing is, we hear on this forum, all the time, from all these males who swear they can't find a traditional woman! I'm not sure what "traditional" means in your context, but isn't there a church or cultural center or something? This is a question, not advise or whatever. I'm just curious as I would think there would be venues for like-minded people who are traditionalists to meet.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 04:09 AM
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both gender should restrain from casual sex Here's my ideal. Everybody is on their own journey. I think each gender should live their life according to what works for them, in a large diverse sexual ecosystem where nature and chaos and individualism drive us. There is no perfect society, no ordered security for the sexually and emotionally insecure. Oh wait, that's the way it already is.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 02:55 PM
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Religion != Moral values. Actually, I don't think religion has that much to do with moral values. Indeed, I don't think not having casual sex is a moral thing either. What should stop you from doing what you said are your actual moral values, and the law and those that love the girl taking you out if you're a psychopath with values. https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/morality-definition/
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 02:45 PM
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By definition, if a male can only get 5/6s, that male is a 5/6. What matters is not the male's perception of his own value, but his actual value on the sexual marketplace. Economics 101. How else do you think it works?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/22 09:03 PM
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Cry a river of tears. The sexual market place is the sexual market place. You end up matched with exactly your value in the current market. Making yourself fit physically, mentally, and economically will increase your value. That's all you can do. If by doing that you end up with a mate that does not look like a movie star, or end up with no mate at all, well, welcome to the real world. Do you expect the justice police make all woman with an SMV above 8 sympathy fuck the complaining males with a…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/22 01:55 AM
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Eventually it will be fixed. Because the current structure is not sustainable. And many cities ARE actively working on making themselves more walkable, more livable. Economically, the suburbs will become too expensive to maintain, over time. Change is slow, but there will be many factors that will accelerate that change by quite a bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 02:07 AM
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Well fix the cities. They're slowly trying to fix Boston. What they have done to cities is a crime against humanity. Certainly income, yeah. But if we design cities and access to cities right, walkability and health can be much more equal between classes.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 03:43 AM
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Thanks, this explanation makes sense. The explanation of u/over348 per "a lot are" seemed to imply something else.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/22 03:31 AM
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So somehow being skinny increases the likelihood of being gay? Wow, do you actually believe that?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/22 11:48 PM
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It makes tons of sense. We're primarily a car culture. And we make it easy for poor uneducated people to do everything in their cars. Add fat and sugar, and leave the gardens behind. Add to that generational passing down of bad habits such as overeating and alcoholism. On top of that add stationary entertainment that can keep the body sitting or laying down hour after hour. Throw Republican non-investment in education into the mix. You Europeans are getting there. Wait another few years.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 03:21 AM
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People think if they live in the country or suburbs they'll be so much healthier because there will be all this extra room for recreation. Then they end up living in their cars because they can't walk anywhere. If we want a healthier America along with drastically reducing out carbon footprint, we should pack everyone into cities and ban cars.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 03:09 AM
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Maybe you all should question who you're hanging out with. I've never had any of these experiences, and honestly I don't think most woman are like you describe. Who are these "woman" that seem to represent for you the entire female gender of the human race?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 05:08 AM
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Ha ha. Because "all or nothing" is a great strategy, usually yielding "nothing". But maybe you are special. Well good luck with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 08:25 PM
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You will get exactly the return for your competitive value on the marketplace of mating. What do you expect. Personally I would expect if you value human beings only according to their weight and whether they be a single parent, you've already got some problems, so your marketplace value is likely already pretty low. I just don't get what you think? Do you think there's some magic fairness doctrine that existed throughout time until now that gives you the right to "spin plates" with the top 10% …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 08:03 PM
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Market place value. Do these people think there's supposed to be some contract that they're entitled to high value hookups? Bring what ya got then there's barter and maybe trade. You want more? Bring more.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 07:18 PM
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He gets what he puts in. Everyone has physical attributes which determine a base. But the rest is being healthy mentally and physically, then making yourself competitive by working out, being extra smart, and, gasp, making yourself interesting in various ways like having interests. Add some social skills, they're totally acquirable. It's not that tricky to figure out. Read up on economics theory. It's not about justice or fairness. It's about marketplace value. Duh.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 07:15 PM
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Also the chances are higher that you're going to meet someone that has more interests than booze and genital stimulation, if you're in a class or meetup group or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 05:51 AM
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Depending on where you are there's also various types of folk dancing. Many of those dances were designed to get couples together.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 05:36 AM
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No not entitled. But people need relationships for psychological health. Without psychological health there becomes a bit of a catch-22 problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 10:57 PM
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I'm a male, and if a male coworker grabbed my nipples, he would find himself with a broken nose. Or, if I was in a good mood that day, I might just try to get him fired for assault. And this irregardless of if he was a friend. Because no one squeezes my nipples except my wife. Fyi, you can treat another human being with respect on equal terms, without saying crude jokes, grabbing nipples or other parts, using misunderstood sarcasm, etc. Whether it's a woman, a co-worker from another culture, or …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 06:01 AM
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I love that saying, "the whole enchilada". I have to use it more. Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 05:39 AM
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Wow, the overwhelmingly similar responses from dudes here say a lot about the dudes here. And why they are hanging out here. I would date either, were I a young man. The number of people they've fucked would not be a criteria, nether would what they've done on vids. Why would I care except maybe it adds more color to their character? What would make a difference would be chemistry both physical and mental. What would make a difference is if we generally get along, and like to be around each othe…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 01:58 AM
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Here's some 2-year-old research regarding online dating: https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2020/02/06/10-facts-about-americans-and-online-dating/ Note its a little hard to tell percentages of people actively using online dating. Sure, dating apps give men and women potentially more options. But there's pickup bars too, especially back in the 70s 80s 90s which had their own meat market dynamics. If you wanna piece of meat and want to be seen as a piece of meat, by all means go to online datin…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 04:16 AM
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u/Proburnerrrr asked: did you not see the part where wrote the 80s and 90s were an easier time for this shit? Yes indeed I did, and thus my response. It's simply not true. It was never easy, and you have more options, and more information now.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 01:13 PM
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If you're looking for love on the globalized Internet, you're looking for it in the wrong place. Go local, young man. Shut down reddit and your dating apps, and interact with warm breathing bodies.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 01:06 PM
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I echo what u/The_LSD_Fairy asked. Where does this come from? On what basis do you arrive at these conclusions? I'm over 60, have been around the block. Woman and men are just searching in the sexual marketplace then as now. There are a few that fall into your movie stereotypes, but most don't. By all means follow the part of red pill that makes yourself a 6/10, but it's not the "spinning plates" nonsense that gets you there. Read the real heart of both red and blue pill, which says, increase yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 03:37 AM
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That's not at all what was stated.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 03:16 AM
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u/The_LSD_Fairy said: "get some hobbies", "find groups to be active in", "maybe go to the gym and wNork on yourself in other ways". Well that is actual blue pil advice, Wait, isn't that red pill advise? The thing I find funny is that the most useful parts of red pill, are also the smart most useful parts of blue pill. Make yourself physically healthy, be confident, be smart, don't be a needy Nancy, have interests beyond getting your dick soggy, be mentally fit and don't throw up a bunch of red f…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 03:14 AM
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Not just this sub. Was watching a YouTube this morning about these performance contest shows killing music. There's so much noise for young people now that they want to value everything according to some metrics. Job interviews are insane this way now in tech. All measured as competition. Ugly as hell.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 09:45 PM
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Huh? Are you saying that people don't love people who are destroyed by addictions? You don't love someone because of their potential. You love someone because you love someone. Addiction is just an invasive creature that turns a person you love into something else. And when you do turn or push away from someone with addiction, it is necessary self-survival, not because you don't love them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 02:41 AM
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I think that's a data observation followed by a prediction or projection, not a theory or hypothesis. Your statement "Men seem to be taller..." does not contain a supposition about an explanation. We're getting a bit into the weeds here about the semantics of the word "theory", I guess. But I think it's really important to distinguish assumptions about data projection from actual theories about explanations.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 07:43 PM
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Well it may be worth exploring what your attraction is based on. Conventional ideas of beauty? Sometimes getting to know someone changes how you might be attracted to them, more based on chemistry and emotional familiarity or whatever. Also, the value one gets out of pure physical attractiveness is up to an individual. Personally I would take just companionship and raw sex over being a lonely angry incel, but that's just me.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 10:21 PM
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Um, no. A theory is "a supposition or a system of ideas intended to explain something, especially one based on general principles independent of the thing to be explained." (Oxford dictionary). A statistic is a "[countable] a piece of information shown in numbers" in other words just data. You could make a theory that men are taller the women because being taller meant they could hunt better, therefore evolution favored taller men. That's a theory. And here the outliers might or might not matter…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 05:56 PM
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Do you really think that? The ratio of woman to men that match on the sexual marketplace hasn't changed. I doubt that the number of Chads that service multiple woman have changed. I'm 60+ years old and can tell you that woman weren't docile wallflowers ready to screw any short or ugly guy that came around. If anything, I would say choices for males were a lot less then, and woman were a lot more discerning. What has changed is the number of males (and females) spending their time online in socia…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 10:54 PM
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But it's not being short or ugly that causes that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 08:47 PM
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I strongly agree with everything you said except the part about woman lying. I don't think culturally or with most individual females that the message is, get fat, let yourself go, smell bad, don't take care of your teeth, dress like you have no respect for anyone you talk to, get your education from married with children reruns. I do think there is a message that educators have been trying to address about not shaming people who aren't your ideal human being. There's a fine line between telling…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 08:46 PM
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I never get the height thing. Or the whole thing about how people are crippled by looks. If you're 4'11 and look like the troll under the bridge, sure, you're probably not going to attract the 5'9 athletic playboy model. But out of 7,874,965,825 people on the planet, you can probably find someone that matches your value on the sexual market place? I just don't get the anger expressed by some of the people on this forum.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 08:34 PM
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When you're saying "in general, men are taller than women" that's a statistical statement, not a theory. So that's an erroneous logic statement. The existence of outliers is applicable to whether or not a hypothesis is a valid theory or not, especially when applied to conclusions about generalizations. A second question is, where does the data about these "evolutionary psychology" hypotheses come from in the first place? The existence of so-called "outliers" may call the base "data" into questio…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 03:48 PM
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Oh boy. Eye roll.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 11:38 PM
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Well I guess it all boils down to either having some competence or being an overall failure.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 01:13 AM
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Would you call Don Knots "hot"? Yet he did very well with woman. https://pagesix.com/2021/11/05/andy-griffith-star-don-knotts/
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 08:35 AM
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Well here's one, from the very questionable evolutionary psychology perspective. I think evolutionary psychology is mostly bs, but I guess it could make sense that humor developed for a reason. https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C22&q=mating+humour&btnG=#d=gs_qabs&u=%23p%3DglZw18igcBsJ I haven't fully reviewed this one: https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/19419899.2019.1668464 This one is interesting because it explores humour similarity between married couples, going bey…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 07:59 AM
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The fact that you use that analogy for the subject at hand shows how much you miss the point. Partner preferences and attractiveness are not like comparing number of fingers. At all. Can't you see that?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 08:37 PM
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So says trp stereotype. Actually, according to studies I've seen, woman seek out humor. And someone taller that her. Someone who can hold a conversation. Being kind is also rated high. Yes, confidence and resources. Probably doesn't hurt to have a big dick. For us men I think "youth and fertility" only go so far. I think conversation is probably again really important. Again, humor. And things that would go to "mother" qualities. But I think the divergence from the stereotypes are so great this …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 08:33 PM
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Fascinating. So you actually have had relationships then. Well alrighty. But makes your rants even stranger. So tell me, what do women bring to a relationship that we aren't already providing for ourselves? Well, people tend to be psychology dependent on relationships, and that psychological well-being translates to physical health. Aside from sex, I simply enjoy the companionship of a woman. What does she bring to the table? She brings herself, and for me that is way enough. All the mystery com…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 06:18 AM
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Attack the argument? I wouldn't know where to begin. Your 14 paragraph rant is so full of crazy hateful generalizations, there is no foundation for an actual thoughtful discussion. I didn't use ANY tropes much less parrot them. As an older guy who's been around the block, I'm just wondering where your world view came from. Didn't even mean to "attack" you. I'm genuinely curious.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 10:44 PM
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Wow. What a warped view. Did some woman screw you over really bad? Or are you a 14-year-old that gets all his info from TRP?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 07:37 PM
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People who are on Reddit are a small fraction of society, and people who are the PurplePillDebate, and in the TRP sphere, are a fraction of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 01:31 PM
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You do know that reddit doesn't represent the real world don't you? The people I know work and form relationships based on opportunity and compatibility and shared interests and sexual chemistry, which isn't always based on stereotyped looks sold to us in magazines. I just don't understand how people come up with these generalizations which I am pretty sure are tropes sold to you by Hollywood and 5th avenue. Also, go back and read the comments and you'll find that quite a few are reflective of w…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 05:11 AM
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Where do you get this nonsense from? Do you know any real human beings?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 04:49 AM
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I hate the word "hobby", I just decided. Is every interest I have just a "hobby"? Finding people that have common interests, whether what you do to make a living or not, is proximity.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 02:07 AM
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No. Not even. I don't do things with male friends like I do with females. No substitution down the line.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/20 09:15 PM
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Wait, did you just compare leading someone on for free dinner to rape?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/20 01:01 AM
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If you smell and look like a potato it might take .5 seconds.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 10:30 PM
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"a good wife to be proud of"? Sheesh, just buy a house trained dog. Funny, I always thought the goal is to have a partner to love and to hold, to share intimacies that grow deeper as time ages the skin, someone to cherish and be cherished by. Eh, but probably a well-groomed poodle will do, I can be proud of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 10:26 PM
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Woman hit the wall when they have menopause. Both men and women hit the wall when the do drugs and alcohol and get fat and stupid, often at age 25 it younger even. Men hit the wall when they're 35 and so stressed and over worked they can't even get it up. What a bunch of horseshit this whole thread is. What kind of world do you people live in?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 06:44 AM
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Evolutionary psychology is a bunch of speculation. The theories are interesting, and good for academics to discuss and perform experiments based on their theories. But, we just don't know, and the culture vs. genes thing just complicates things more in a way that doesn't necessarily translate from animal behavior. Why can't we just say "we don't know" with respect to things like RP? Why can't RP just be a sociological behaviour model that works for some people, without claiming BS ground truth b…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 12:24 AM
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No, 2029 is probably going to be worse the way you're sounding. You're 30, a baby. Get your health in order, then work on your health and fitness, including mental fitness, some more. I hate the red pill crap, but their instructions for making self improvement are spot-on.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/20 01:34 AM
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I don't care what country you're in, 16 y/o is a child. Just because local conventions adapt something, doesn't make it right. Slavery was once accepted too.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/20 01:23 AM
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I also believe men cheat more than women. Maybe, but woman cheat. I actually think they probably cheat more than is known, but are more careful about it. https://ifstudies.org/blog/who-cheats-more-the-demographics-of-cheating-in-america https://www-fatherly-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.fatherly.com/health-science/do-men-cheat-more-than-women-infidelity-data/amp/?amp_js_v=a2&amp_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQCKAE%3D#aoh=15794159086857&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&ampshare=ht…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/20 07:17 AM
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I also believe men cheat more than women. Maybe, but woman cheat. I actually think they probably cheat more than is known, but are more careful about it. https://ifstudies.org/blog/who-cheats-more-the-demographics-of-cheating-in-america https://www-fatherly-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.fatherly.com/health-science/do-men-cheat-more-than-women-infidelity-data/amp/?amp_js_v=a2&amp_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQCKAE%3D#aoh=15794159086857&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&ampshare=ht…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/20 06:45 AM
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I know that technically I could learn to fake it too, but what's the point? Learning the art of conversation, both in group settings and one on one, is a very valuable life skill to have. For work, for travel, and, yes, to find people you want to have relationships with. Even if you're a true introvert, it helps to be able to sail through social situations without angst, and ups confidence. I ended up listening to a couple of audio books on the art of conversation, and it helped me a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 04:42 PM
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I mean, why would anyone give a fuck about a friend. Because, push comes to shove, they'll murder you if it suits them. I'm afraid there are no gender deferences in this regard. You're born alone in this world. You'll die alone. Get used to it. Feeling bitter today, could you tell? 😄
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/19 03:13 AM
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Why not spend your time understanding people on their own terms, rather than lumping them into stupid categories?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/19 02:53 AM
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Sorry for my ignorance, but do people really ask people their "n-count” in modern dating. I mean, isn't that a person's own business? Wouldn't there be more important stuff on the dating agenda, like, do you like the person, are you attracted to them, do you share any interests? Does the actual human being in front of you matter at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/19 02:18 AM
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People have found partners without research studies for millions of years. I mean, I find the research interesting, taken with a grain of salt. But, in terms of what you need to know? Make yourself as attractive as possible in terms of looks, smell, intellect, mental stability, finances, career, etc. Oh, and try to make your prospective mate laugh and have a good time. Use and enhance what you have, and expect to attract a mate of similar smv. Not rocket science, research study not required.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/19 04:51 AM
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Yeah this is really critical. Stress, computer jobs leading to lack of exercise, anxiety. I suspect the numbers might even be higher.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/19 01:08 AM
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Huh? I don't give a damn what you do. This is a public forum and I was spouting off about whether relationships in the work place are "safe" and ok, in general terms. The context was slightly lost because I meant to respond to a sub-post, but my initial response went to the main thread. I apologize if you felt my remarks were personal in any way.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/19 12:47 PM
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On the other hand, you might get a reputation for being a nice guy, hot item, whatever. It works both ways. But flirting... I would say work is not the place for flirting. It's not a pickup bar. This is because of professionalism, not persecution of the sexes or human relationships, and is basically unfair to your other colleagues. If you like a person, ask them out, and flirt on non- work time. This is not complicated in my mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/19 03:37 AM
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You're right, it's behind a paywall. From the blurb I could read, it's about how tinder and the like have changed where the sexual market place is, less a statement about the workplace itself. Which matches my musing.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/19 03:26 AM
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Ok, you've convinced me, those nice young woman in my workplace are mostly all "unstable" "annoying snitch ass bitches" who will accuse any male who asks them out, or actually has a fling with them, of sexual harassment or rape. Doh! How could I be so naive to think otherwise? I mean, most woman are inherently unstable and revenge crazed, right? Rattlesnakes are kittens compared with these woman! And those corporate policies were created by a bunch of feminazis out to destroy the natural order! …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/19 03:20 AM
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What actions did you have to defend that impacted your work environment? Ok, true story, so I'm going on a back- country trip in a few weeks. A friend warned about rattlesnakes. So, yeah, there will be a few rattlesnakes on the road. But, I'm not going to let fear rule me. For me, the trip is worth the risk and stress. We each have to make our own risk assessment. But, if it was me, within professional constraints, I wouldn't hesitate to ask a colleague out. But, if you think you're likely to do…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/19 06:11 PM
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Can you give me the reference where it's well documented? Part of that may simply that it's easier to do tinder, etc. But that doesn't mean that office relationships aren't as viable as they always were. What is true is that any attempts to form relationships that involve direct or indirect reporting relationships are very problematic.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/19 02:25 PM
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Sure, as is most of human interaction in life. If you make a mistake and ask someone out that says no, it's not a big deal, from a corporate or personal standpoint. It's only a big deal if a fixation develops that you can't let go of.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/19 02:16 PM
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Ha ha. Is called reading signals. Also, asking someone out once, is not an offense. If you can't take no, and it becomes a problem, then it's a problem in any universe.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/19 01:33 PM
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I'm not actually sure this is true. It is true that you have to be careful. But as long as the attraction is mutual, and not through a reporting hierarchy, what's the problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/19 06:02 AM
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Yeah sure, but we don't need to be victims of our evolution. We have reason and can think rationally, and can guide, sometimes even trick, the defensive animal portion of our brain.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/19 05:24 AM
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You might consider upgrading your social circle. Life is way too short for that kind of nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/19 06:02 AM
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Bonus question: Do you actually think average men should approach women way more attractive than them or is it just a losers fantasy? If you're attracted to her/him (forget anyone's definition of "attractive"), and you're on the market, and you suspect she's on the market, then, yes, approach her with limited expectations, and be sensitive to signals. If you're getting clear positive signals, then carefully and sensitively move to the next steps. Neutral signals or negative signals, move on with…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/18 11:59 PM
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And what makes you think someone else is capable of explaining mine or anyone else's self? Or of measuring my self awareness? Or self honesty? Apparently a human being's individuality is worth nothing to you. They're not worth talking to, because you've already summed them up. Good luck in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/18 11:09 PM
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If you think that, then explain that you're smarter and more honest than everyone else, and therefore can explain what everyone else is thinking and feeling. But you might ought to say it to a wall, because I don't know why anyone would listen to such a harangue. And I don't care what your "pill" status is.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/18 11:01 PM
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Fair point. I wasn't parsing the statement as only applying to a specific sub-culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/18 10:51 PM
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Why don't you ask people that dislike TRP why they dislike it, instead of declaring why they think they way they do, as if you know. And listen sincerely and thoughtfully to what they have to say If you think you want to convince them to your point of view, then use the Socratic method to turn the discourse into a search for the truth, perhaps slanted to your point of view, if it holds up. As it is, your post is just a verbose dump of your personal world view. Fine, we all have our point of view…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/18 10:09 PM
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No, it's not reality, it's stereo-typing.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/18 03:39 AM
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I didn't read any of his old stuff, only became aware of him from the podcast. I think he grew a lot from the earlier books, and is tempered by Miller. But, I can still see what you mean. Anyway, if RP helps some, great. I just wouldn't personally point a young man to RB forums, but would instead give him the Max/Miller book. Though I agree most of core RP is ok. Peace.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/18 03:49 AM
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I don't know that anger "burning itself out" is really a thing, especially when enforced by other young men of like mind. Emotional catharsis has largely been disproven. I worry disenfranchised young males see RP as affirmation of their anger, rather than encouraging simple dispassionate understanding of that value one presents to other human beings, sexual or otherwise. I don't have any real answers on how to convince them, but it seems to me RP is a pretty risky way of doing it, pure as the co…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/18 05:26 AM
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Yes, I think their take is a cleaner, and perhaps better based on good science, than RP. While it clearly dispassionately recognizes SMV, it seems to me to not objectify and stereotype woman. And is not filled with overloaded jargon. I would not hesitate to point one of my nephew's to the Max&Miller book our the mating grounds podcast, in spite of Tucker Max's history. I could never say the same about RP.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/18 05:09 AM
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I don't think Max&Miller are spouting red pill anything. They actually show respect for woman. Listen to their old podcast, they're really good. Taking care of oneself, showing confidence, and understanding the sexual marketplace is simply what boys should be learning from their fathers. It's not at all anti feminist, or needing to be "female flattering sugar". You don't have to belong to a freaking "red pill" cult, or follow pseudo bro science, or use a special vocabulary. Anyway, yeah, I hope …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/18 09:47 AM
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No-pill means to reject the whole pill categorization as stupid, incorrect, and incoherent. It means "please don't include me in your world view, period. I don't need it, or want it.". It means being perfectly aware of RP and BP philosophies or not... don't care. Don't need your f***ing stereotypes. BP, on the other hand, is a categorization that attempts to be in context to the RP philosophy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/18 12:52 AM
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Most ppl can be bought OP. Yeah, it's not very complicated. If it's not money it's something else. Life is a series of selfish value propositions. And every day a consideration of if you're good with the value you currently hold, or if you want to trade up the chain. And why shouldn't it be? But the trick is this: different people value different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/18 01:33 AM
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Seriously, work on separating t.v. / books / movies from real life. Use your own first hand experiences. No one is duping you. It's supposed to be entertainment or someone's expression.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/18 12:37 AM
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Sorry man. I hope you find some formula that works for you. I believe that formula is there for most people, but who am I to say. I am sure that a path to success is not demeaning woman. Anyway, best wishes.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/18 05:17 AM
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Naw, if your healthy, meaning healthy weight, and not sick, healthy income, and healthy mind, you can be pretty ugly and still they'll come. Not that you'll get a "10". You'll get someone within your SMV.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 03:35 AM
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A man with a good morals and good heart who is interesting and kind will take 2nd place to the richer, more handsome guy whether he is an asshole or not. The "richer" part, maybe, depending on the woman. The "handsome", I think it's just a matter of chemistry. I think it's more about "healthy", including being at a healthy weight, and not looking corpse-like. I mean, I never said that a "ugly, short physicist/engineer/researcher” is gonna get the upper class perfect woman. But, shop within your …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 03:30 AM
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Woman like flirting, when appropriate. I am a male, but, believe me, woman do not like being talked down to. They do like male confidence. They do like male intelligence. They do like men who make them laugh. You can do these things and not show disrespect to woman. Here's the secret: focus on making yourself the best version you yourself that you can. Fuck the red pill and every other silly cult following. Focus on making yourself an interesting, exciting, and promising human being, in your bod…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/18 05:31 AM
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and someone to listen them whine..and someone to compliment them I'm pretty sure that's more of a problem with men than with woman. Once again I don't know where this stuff comes from. Take control of you and your relationship, or at least a full 50% control. So you don't like chick-flicks. Then let her go out to see that crap with her girlfriends. Speaking of whining, why are you whining about all this junk? As far as only wanting sex from woman. I don't know anyone like that male or female. Ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/18 01:55 AM
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"Don't ever hit a girl" is a form of the Women are Wonder effect, no? Not really. I think it's practical from bunch of levels. Woman are indeed generally more delicate, and break easier. Evolution wise, hitting a pregnant woman could cause her to miscarry. And probably started by men who want to be seen as protectors. I don't think it's a value statement about men vs. woman really.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/18 07:23 AM
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Here's the proc roy soc B study I mentioned, that highlights the importance of looks Which part of that study highlights the importance of looks,? Participants are shown photographs, with faces masked off, in order to prove their hypothesis about evolutionary psychology. But, to my understanding, looks are pretty low on the overall list. Here's another study: http://evp.sagepub.com/content/14/1/1474704915623698.full.pdf+html But whichever study you look at, the basis of attraction is health, whe…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/18 07:10 AM
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No. Humans are supposed to treat humans with respect, compassion, and understanding, until they prove unworthy, because they are human. And really amazing critters. And, yeah, don't hit girls. Unless it's lady Brienne of Tarth.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/18 02:26 AM
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What you wrote just sounded really paranoid, like every woman is scheming to take advantage of you, and lusting after someone else. But the stereotypes I'm hearing are just that, stereotypes. The majority of woman, in my long experience, are simply not like that. I apologise for my tone.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/18 02:21 AM
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Hey sorry if I offended. I'm trying to understand your complaint about being used, and understand your expectations. I think this was the motive behind your post No. I don't believe in pills. I don't have a motive as such. I'm just trying to understand what seems to be happening with many younger men. It's kind of fascinating, but my heart breaks too. I wish you the best.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/18 12:29 AM
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Really? "Lay count"?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/18 12:16 AM
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I don't have a problem with providing, I have a problem with being used Why? You don't use? And if you get nothing back from a given individual, why would you provide? I don't get it. It's just an economy. A marketplace. I am a male, with lots of male experiences. In my life, if it became one-sided, maybe a bit of grief, then maybe a bit of self improvement, then try another. Sometimes the tables were turned. What's so hard? Why do you need a special red pill?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/18 12:13 AM
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it's the part where the woman is only with you because you provide while she does the bare minimum to keep you from leaving her and she secretly lusts (and sometimes not just in her head) after other men. Wow. Really wow. I suggest cognitive therapy, which tries to divorced you from projecting your imaginings onto other people. I mean, what exactly are you expecting from a potential mating partner?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/18 12:04 AM
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Ha ha. Perfect.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 11:53 PM
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Where are you getting this from?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 11:50 PM
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Well I didn't need this specific seminar about economics to learn about economics, but that was the one I stumbled on... Here's the problem. At the very core of RP are some foundational truths that are quite good. As with many religions. Then there's all the crap that people add on to it. Your statement about economics. The corollary would be to study basic social science, not some reddit cult.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 11:47 PM
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women have much easier access to sex... The average man... Blah blah blah If you want to argue male/female sexual life cycle, value, advantages/disadvantages, etc. please point to specific, credible data so we can argue meaning and import. I'm not saying what you say is wrong, but I would say it's a very complex picture. And I don't understand why you paint young men as such victims, and woman as fucking everything that comes along. I understand very little about this "feel uncomfortable with th…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 11:38 PM
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I pretty much agree with your first response paragraph. And I think it's good to have a social strategy. If having that strategy geared towards short term casual sex what you're in to, then fine. But don't take that particular strategy because some internet BS categorizes you as"alpha" or more of an idea or fitting in with someone else's ideal stereotype. it's better to accept the cold reality of how mate selection and sexual preferences really works using empirical and objective evidence, than …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 03:54 AM
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but the crazy thing is....it's true. All of it. As with most cult-like movements, the reason it gains followers is because it contains truths, mixed it with the bs. Yes, the sexual market place is a real thing. Yes, as a male you should strive to be as healthy, smart, and confident as possible. Yes, women (and men) are selfish. Yes, core sexuality is primal. Yes, some aspects of female sexuality are predictable and exploitable across the spectrum. But. No, just because some core aspects of sexua…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 08:02 PM
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I was asking you questions. I am just trying to figure out why people like you are obsessed with this subject? I didn't accuse you of disliking woman. Did I insult you? You want me to say something if substance. I work for a large tech company that tries hard to give woman fair opportunity. I also work with young students out of MIT. I know many woman that would blow any man away, both in the older your echelon, and with young students. Nobody's worried about radical feminism or the biology of s…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/17 06:40 AM
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Why? I'm an older male. I've seen woman discriminated against many times. And I've seen the reverse a few times. I don't think there's much that could cause me to loose my shit either way. The balance shifts this way and that, who cares.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/17 06:20 AM
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Seriously, 8 paragraphs on this tired sub--topic? Did a woman get promoted ahead of you? Or do you just feel the need to to whine about the horrible injustices if the world? I hope you survive life's trauma.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 11:28 PM
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Exactly. This stuff will work itself out over time. Keys are, show respect and kindness, and deal with people as humans, not as abstract stereotypes.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 11:21 PM
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Huh? Hopefully you don't mean to imply that treating a woman badly has anything to do with whether the male is attracted to her? In any case, I think the goal between sexes is not equal treatment as such, but total human respect. The sexual equation is always always there, whether you know it or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 11:14 PM
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Can I ask you where you get this view from? Is it from reading? From direct live experience? From online experience? If direct live experience, what age group and what social circles? Work peers vs. college peers vs. high school peers vs. bar scene vs. Meetup groups? I'm in my upper 50s (male), and I've been around a bit. In my experience woman are attracted to someone who has something to offer that matches what they need. Duh. Yeah, some woman on some days may need a fuck from a pretty boy wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/17 02:02 AM
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Exactly. And I suspect they base these theories on online garbage, and clearly not from actual experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/17 05:20 AM
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Gosh, do any of you people ever get laid? It's not that hard, if you're reasonably healthy, can hold a real conversation, and can demonstrate that you have something to offer. Looks matter mostly as an indication of health.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/17 05:12 AM
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It's just wrong. Conversation comes first, and being able to make her laugh and feel wanted. And basic health, like not being obese or totally sickly looking. And, sure, SMV plays a role. But, no, I don't think looks come first for either sex. From what I know, studies confirm this.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/17 05:00 AM
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Actually, he is wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/17 04:52 AM
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The best way I've heard to learn how to be good with woman, is to go to a nursing home, and learn how to have conversation with old woman. Which is to say, learn the art of conversation at a human level. The rest will follow.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/17 01:52 AM
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I don't what why I bother with what seems like a second year college student that actually thinks it's ok to make shit up and call it science. Did you misunderstand what your professor told you? Note that it was rational deduction, not empirical inquiry, that led to such important discoveries as the fact that the Earth revolves around the sun http://www.astronomy.com/magazine/ask-astro/2017/01/proof-earth-revolves-around-the-sun There is clear and certain proof that the earth revolves around the…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/17 03:06 AM
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Ohhhhh, right, THANK YOU, I feel so enlightened. When you can't find proof, make shit up and claim that it's true. Frankly, I think any 5th grader can beat your hogwash. So, in the future, thou may wish to refrain from the claim you have some grand claim on the truth. You're just another bozo in my book.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/17 09:50 PM
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Again, I'm not knocking the process of theorizing, or deduction. If you think that's what I'm doing, you misinterpret. Yes, theorizing and deduction, even sometimes guessing, are absolutely necessary processes in science. But I believe those that theorized the earth was flat and at the center of the universe also believed they were using logical deduction. For every single one of those things you named earlier, if I had the time, I can show you the proof, if just derivative, mathematical, or log…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/17 09:17 PM
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sigh. I'll say it again, then peace out. You can't just make shit up, and call it science.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/17 02:25 PM
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Right, or you can delude yourself with bullshit. It has to be testable at some level. Otherwise it's the same as religion.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/17 02:17 PM
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do not lend themselves to discrete observation, and are not precisely measurable - like the vast majority of human behavior and (in the case of discretely observable) Which, btw, is why many of us do not view most of psychology as a proper science. So much damage has been done by pretending it's authoritive science.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 11:38 PM
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All of those things you name eventually had arguable proof, or a least are extremely well vetted. Though the pondering about the tree of human ancestry is changing rapidly. There's nothing wrong with hypothesis. I certainly didn't mean to imply that. But, for a hypothesis to be a scientific hypothesis, the scientific method requires that one can test it. That's not "5th grade understanding" (though I'm not claiming any more than that for myself), it's fact. So, you tell me what the test case is …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 07:19 PM
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It is an interesting hypothesis. My question is why does natural selection favor the woman who is more emotional about a rape? And one wonders how often rape occurs in the scheme of things to become a evolutionary factor... I just don't know. I might counter that an alternate hypothesis might be woman who were vulnerable enough that males succeeded in forcing themselves on her, tended to be less strong mothers, and thus let her children die more easily. Something like that. How often does rape h…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 04:19 AM
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Or maybe 97%. Its basically just people making hypotheses that have no verification. In other words, worthless not-science.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 03:59 AM
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I'm telling you, herp a derp. Collect all the variables from statistics and studies. Calculate the variance curve with linear algebra, and extrapolate the result. You'll see.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/17 04:00 AM
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All things considered, in the U.S., given health problems (including weight problems), mental health problems (including drug and alcohol problems) , and the fact that those who are single may have as an indication that they have problems the fact that they are single. Across the population of singles 18 to 90. 12.5% chance getting laid that night. 47.3% chance if they give it a week of persistence. Do the math.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/17 02:45 AM
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Yeah, it's mostly a cultural thing. But not a bad thing. Feelings are overrated anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/17 10:53 PM
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Men are not supposed to feel, gotcha. You can feel all you want, but keep it to yourself. A lot of show of emotion is considered unmanly. That's just the world you were born into. Give this a listen: http://www.artofmanliness.com/2017/04/27/podcast-299-manly-according-ancient-greeks-romans/ Sex must be mutual. If you can't get it on mutually, go wack off and shut up. That goes for either gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/17 10:31 PM
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I'm not a pill subscriber, but my understanding of pure TRP is just what you said, in terms of the behaviour of woman. There's no judgement our blame involved. It's just acceptance of built-in behaviour. I think people then take it to a next level.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/17 03:04 PM
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Stop listening to others about what you must do. You're not worthless. Your value is in living a life on your own terms, making the world a better place as you understand it, as you grow. Philosophies such as "red pill" or "blue pill" or Christianity or Islam or anything else can never tell you how to be. Own your own life, and give into it every bit of the original brain cells you have to make it a life worth living.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/17 10:53 PM
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Anyone who lets a Reddit forum define their emotional state needs shut off the internet all together, get a social life, maybe get some real interests.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/17 04:50 PM
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"Worthwhile traditional woman". Holy Jesus.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/17 04:44 PM
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I bet overall woman don't like fat men either.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 03:54 AM
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Holy crap. Where do you get this stuff from? Really, where do you get this stuff from? Is it from chat forums read in your mommy's basement? Or from some drunk club scene of pickup culture? Did you know there's a real world out there filled with wonderful and varied human beings?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 12:08 AM
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Sure, but that's a pretty narrow subculture.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/17 04:35 PM
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I guess it depends on your social circle. I personally don't know anyone like that, and can only imagine stereotypes. It's funny how people think that their limited experiences reflect the state of the world. I think it's more likely that kids are drawn to that anime and video game culture (which I would not infer from "eastern culture") for whatever reason, probably social or just because parents gave them a gameboy at an impressionable age. And then they neglected their physical well being, be…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/17 04:31 PM
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Um, where's your evidence to this assertion?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/17 07:35 AM
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I personally love being sexually objectified and persistently pursued by men I find attractive. And likely send at least subtle signals that you like it. Creepy becomes when someone can't read signals or doesn't care about the signals, and yet persists. I don't think it has to do with desirability as such, though obviously you're not going to send positive signals to someone you're not attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/17 07:36 PM
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Gets me all excited when you call me "honey bun". But you really think that contemplating the 2,000,000 year-old mystery about whether woman tell the truth about liking big dicks, is more interesting than a 20 year-old unsolved who-done-it mystery, with dna and handwriting analysis and all sorts of other stuff? Ok, I'll solve your little mystery. Different woman have varying preferences concerning dick size, and they also ascribe varying weights to these preferences. Men also have varying prefer…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 04:43 AM
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Who the fuck cares? If she don't like what you got, show her the door, and find someone who appreciates you. Simple as that. I mean, I don't make posts that men appreciate woman with tighter pussys more. Are you people really talking about this?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/16 09:29 PM
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On the other hand, I see all sorts of alt-right type folks denying that the vote for trump was misogynistic (or racist). The fact is, Trump won for a complex mish-mash of reasons. I suspect a feminism backlash is pretty low an the list. Certainly I would not view this election as a indictment against feminism. If the candidate on the Democrat side had been someone like Tulsi Gabbard, she would have wiped Trump off the face of the earth.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/16 09:05 PM
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especially in a society based on social currency. Society is not a single thing. You only need social currency in the sub-society of yourself and the woman you seek. This sub-society need not include drinkers and party-flys. Girls filter out guys they don't like, guys widen their net to try any girls that may or may not work. These are generalizations that are not very useful. To continue with your fishing analogy, a wide net may not be very useful in catching the tastiest fish. To catch the tas…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/16 03:57 AM
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And that's why I can't take RPers seriously. There is simply no place for any nuance in an ideology that's based on the assumption that all women are the same person and that anyone that thinks otherwise is just a clueless idiot. Well stated.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/16 02:22 AM
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Then get out of that culture. That's not the world. That's the closed loop of a bunch of delusional losers that just want to get high, feel self important, and maybe do empty fucking. You can live a really great life by associating with people who don't 'party', and are truly interested and curious about this amazing world. Find people you respect, and learn to earn their respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/16 02:15 AM
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A male making himself presentable may involve a different ratio of techniques than a woman might use, though, it depends on the culture. Basic grooming and bathing is kind of obvious. Health, including weight control, cardiovascular endurance, muscle health, dental health, and complexion control is another. Mental and emotional health is another. Social ability, including a reasonable sense of humor, and projecting confidence, is another. These are all things that are within the male's control, …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/16 02:08 AM
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I'm a male, but this answer reflects what I see going on with most woman. And I think it's a reasonable model of women for men to form in their heads. In general, most people think the people they encounter are more focused on them than they actually are.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/16 08:07 PM
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Holy fuck. What is wrong with you people?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/16 11:35 PM
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I do, for one.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/16 05:49 PM
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Read history.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/16 05:48 PM
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I apologize for that. Comment deleted.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/16 05:46 PM
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No, it's a societal problem, brought on largely by technology, not politics. Read history.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/16 05:45 PM
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The fact that many people don't understand the outrage is the most outrageous, and sad, thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/16 05:42 PM
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That's not "cool". It's just not.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/16 05:40 PM
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Simply not true. They get away with a lot. But there are lines not to be crossed.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/16 05:38 PM
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You're speculating. Personally, no, I don't think most politicians talk like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/16 05:36 PM
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We each have to make KY own judgements. From what I know about him, the banter was a pretty accurate reflection of who he is.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/16 05:33 PM
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Do you actually look at their positions? Or just react to the propaganda? Try: https://www.isidewith.com/elections/2016-presidential-quiz If you actually agree with his positions more than hers, then it's all good, I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/16 05:30 PM
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No society has long endured the income inequality of our current state. You think Trump is going to fix that? Holy Jesus. Do you actually look at his positions?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/16 05:24 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/16 05:19 PM
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If you vote just to send an FU, rather than an issues you care about, then that's another crack of democracy. I've heard from a lot of trump-heads about the entertainment value of this election. And a lot of you just want change, without a clue about what that means. I want a country that is fair and kind, at peace, and that cares about the land and environment. Restructuring? No thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/16 04:12 AM
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She was ordered to defend the rapist, and she never denied it. Wtf.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/16 03:58 AM
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Hogwash. I understand what "locker room" talk is. Here's what it's not: saying that you can grab a woman by her pussy just because you have power. And she'll like it. That's very very close to a rape mentality. If that's the way you think a president should act, then go the fuck to Russia.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/16 03:44 AM
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It's a crapshoot either way. Though, if I were Asian-Indian, I would try the arranged marriage, just because the it would be less hassle, the weddings are really cool, and I find Indian women to be extremely beautiful.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/16 11:34 PM
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I can't say that I ever have, or ever will, describe someone as average. I'm not trying to be lofty. I simply don't think of people that way. I do understand SMV, both from the social standpoint, and the psychological standpoint. And, clearly SMV is psychologically related to how attracted we are to someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/16 03:08 PM
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OK, good. For myself it wouldn't make a whisper of a difference what someone's rating was based on a photograph. The only thing that makes a difference to me is how attracted I am to them. Often I am very attracted to someone who might not be classically hot or whatever. To me it's all chemistry, or at least a complex mixture of many factors. But probably related to pheromones one way or the other. For someone who expresses an interest, but I'm not attracted to them, I'm very flattered, and very…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/16 05:55 AM
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Wtf do you mean by "average"? Someone I'm not attracted to? Someone statistically in the middle quadrant in the world population in terms of physical features? Someone in the middle of the spectrum in terms of perceived SMV? Someone who fits in to the mean of the social classes?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/16 05:40 AM
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All I know is I'd easily do either one of them. Even if some woman look a bit worse for wear, they can often still be a huge turn-on way past their 30s, or 50s. The keys are health, vitality, energy, personality, brains. (Same for guys, I suppose).
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 04:05 AM
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Aside from the fact that what you provided isn't scientific research, I work and live very near MIT, which has a very diverse population racially and culturaly. There may be a lot of reasons that students there are less interested in casual sex, including and especially the fact that they simply may not find quick fucks to be that rewarding. In other words, smart people may be more discriminating.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/16 04:20 PM
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It's really really important that people use the term "scientific research" properly. If you don't understand what the term means, please don't use it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/16 04:08 PM
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Why on earth do you think guys who are smart aren't muscular, and that muscular and/or fit guys aren't smart? Read "Spark: The Revolutionary New Science of Exercise and the Brain" by John Ratey and forget your stereotypes. Like I said, "smart" is one factor among many. "kindness" is way up there too. So is "confidence". And so is health. Duh. Not muscular/jock so much, but fit and healthy. Is this a surprise? Of course health is a major attraction trait for mammels. In this regards, read Darwin.…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/16 06:05 AM
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The generalizations in this post are just horseshit. Over the last couple of years that's what really gets to me about these posts from TRPers and from associated groups. While using patterns to classify and predict behaviour has its place, the jumps of logic from rash generalizations are way too simple and flawed. People, including woman, are way way complex. Quit treating them like they are characters in a stereotypical bad novel. If the woman you are meeting are bored with your boast about wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/16 01:43 AM
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Because woman are amazing creatures. Young or old, thin or round, smart or lost. There is no greater beauty than the grace of a women. In my book. Have people become such a commodity to you that you do not see this? Do you not understand how lucky we are, as humans, in this day and age? We should cherish each other. Some day you and I will be dead, and then there will be nothing at all to appreciate.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/16 06:51 PM
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My view is that woman do reserve special respect for being woman. And, if they're snobby because of daddy's money, well, maybe they'll give me some of daddy's money if i show 'em a bit of respect. And, men also deserve special respect for being men. You know who doesn't deserve respect? Those who don't respect other people, who spread disdain, regardless of gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/16 07:01 AM
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Well, if you wear your racial views on your shoulder, you might consider if that has anything to do with you not getting "casual sex". As for overweight woman, there are just as many overweight men. Frankly, you sound like a complete jerk. So, good luck with your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/16 06:17 PM
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Complete hogwash. There are more women than men in the world. They are at least as lonely as men, maybe even more so. If what you say is true where you live, here's some advice: move.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/16 06:20 PM
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I find you just have to connect at a personal level. It doesn't have to be a show, you don't have to be a peacock. At least with normal woman, if they are on the market. You just have to show that you're not mentally ill in some way, and show that there's something of value to them. Most woman are lonely enough that the value doesn't have to be as high as you might expect. Though, if you're hitting on someone with very high SMV, sure, you've likely got competition then. In that case, it helps to…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/16 12:26 PM
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Oh, I didn't know boning someone 40 years younger than you was the name of the game. Most guys that aren't pedophiles are happy with someone their own age. But, sure, if you're completely physically repulsive to the other person, maybe some charisma would help.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/16 12:16 PM
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Ha. You don't need charisma. You just need to be able to be able to have reasonable conversational skills, be interested in what she has to offer, and make her laugh a little. Oh, and not look like a pedophile or smell like a wet dog.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/16 04:23 AM
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I wonder what universe you live in? Where do you come up with that stuff about being plowed behind the bar? "Boring" is, perhaps, a matter of perception and point-of-view. But, a boring/non-interesting person is likely to not be someone you are attracted to, whether male or female. Do you find that surprising? Do you think that a person should not have to put forward attributes that make you seem more interesting and attractive than the person next to you? Or, at least interesting and attractive…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 07:01 PM
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Geez, not in my book. I've met fairly few boring people. Maybe you should look a little deeper. Have you considered having a conversation with one where you show some genuine curiosity?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 06:39 PM
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For that matter, "mental strength" doesn't mean much once you start monkeying with brain chemistry. Drugs are fundamentally different than the rest of the things he named, because they mess with the core system.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 06:33 PM
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Hogwash. That's the kind of bullshit they spouted off in the late 60s and 70s. That altering the chemicals in your brain is going to somehow lead you to a deeper understanding of the world. You know what leads one to a deeper understanding of life? Mental clarity. Science. Mathematics. Physics. Getting out of your own head. Curiosity. You don't need drugs, or religion for that matter, to achieve empathy, openness, caring. Drugs by and large get in the way of those things. Even for art, the use o…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 06:25 PM
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Yeah, I mean excessively or problematically, thought that's hard to predict. One who drinks to get drunk more than a few times a year. One who drinks 7 days a week. One who could not have a good time without drink. And, indeed, it's too bad that a mind-altering substance is at the center of much of the world's social ritual. To me, when I interact with someone, I want total mental clarity.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 06:12 PM
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Yeah, anyone can be an asshole. But, if you want to find someone that's decent, it's my contention that you're more likely to have success among people who are mentally and physically healthy, and don't have crap monkeying with their brain. And it's my contention that there's lots of good souls out there if you go fishing in the right waters. But, never any guarantees.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 05:58 PM
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Maybe depends a lot on where you live, I suppose. Both geographic and economic status.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 05:22 AM
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I suspect if one were too look deeply into your anecdotal story, one would find that guy has issues. Or is just looking in the wrong places because of screwed up expectations, or not looking at all. The majority of woman do go for "good, stable guys who treat them great", though not if they're boring, weak, anxious, and don't know how to make them laugh and feel joy. Yeah, there are woman who fit your stereo type of wanting someone who mistreats them, but I don't think they're in the majority, a…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 05:16 AM
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I don't think this is true, sorry. Women want to be desired, maybe cherished, not worshipped. I just think some men have a screwed up ideal. Man or woman: healthy, mentally stable, not needy, confident, not inebriated, able to carry on a conversation, kind, industrious. Really basic and universal definition of "good". After that one can dial in gender differences, proper pairing with like SMV, and raw physical chemistry.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 04:31 AM
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Sorry, I didn't mean to offend. I don't know your situation. I think everyone can stay away from people who drink or do drugs. Better to be friendless than to be dragged down by destructive souls. But everyone has to make their own assessments about what's important... just giving my view. As for finding healthy people. Seems like there's meetup.com groups and the like where people can rendezvous with others who at least express an interest in some healthy activity, like hiking or bike riding. B…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 04:15 AM
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I think this is probably bullshit. There's lots of good people around, and good partners to be found. Though they may not be your classic stereotype from the movies. First key is, walk away from people (individuals or friend circles) who drink or do drugs. Because inebriated people are stupid, have lots of problems, and tend to be destructive. Second key is to find people (circles of friends, individuals) who care about their health, and are physically active. Because physically healthy and acti…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 03:30 AM
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Read the first paragraph and a half. Concluded you have way too much time on your hands. Shouldn't you be devoting all that time to figuring out how to get some action?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/16 08:14 PM
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Yes, absolutely.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/16 08:12 PM
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Not sure what your point is. You ask why? A combination of biology and culture, as with most behavior in human sexuality, and human behavior in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/16 08:44 PM
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I guess it's a matter of how you define gay culture, and where. But I think you can go back to the 20s, back to Roman and Greek culture, and everywhere in between. And I was around in the 70s, and, though I'm not gay, I grew up around an art university, and gay culture was certainly alive and well then. To the point of your post, I suspect a certain amount of gay culture is transferred from heterosexual culture. I don't think your example is at all evidence of behavior that is necessarily "close…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/16 06:32 AM
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Gay culture was virtually nonexistent until very recently Wtf?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/16 05:48 AM
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True. What's your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/16 09:25 PM
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It's in my nature to want to argue against offensive rhetoric. Just the way I am.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/16 11:53 PM
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You made huge generations about "lefties", so I guess I made huge generalizations about "righties". But you're right about my argument being ridiculous, given it was a response to your ridiculous statement, on this ridiculous thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/16 11:14 PM
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I don't recall where I read it, but I believe science has proved the opposite? Sexually, woman really get off from different dicks, while men have a harder time adapting... maybe partly an issue with performance anxiety? But, emotionally, maybe it's the opposite from that. In any case, I suspect science doesn't really know that much about what people are programmed for, and evolutionary psychology is mostly unfounded speculation at this stage.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/16 06:05 PM
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How about, have interests, goals, curiosity, and work everyday at being better than who you were yesterday, in body and brain. That's pretty much really attractive for either sex. If it doesn't get you laid tomorrow, it at least ups SMV over time. All the game either sex ever needs, imho. Though general awareness of mating markets can help set expectations.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/16 05:53 PM
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Do you think being a Limbaugh ditto-head, or one of those brainless freaks at trump rallies is owning who you are? "Owning who you are" means living outside the stereo-typed boxes of the left or right, and actually exercising your brain cells towards original deductive reasoning. It has zero to do with your supposed archetype of "heterosexual men", whatever the fuck you intend that to mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/16 05:36 PM
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What? You mean we're not living in a movie?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/16 05:14 AM
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Hmm, well "taking a pill" is still taking a pill, whatever the color. Maybe it's anti-RP. For myself, I define myself as no-pill, as in, I'll think and do whatever, based on my own best judgement. Almost the same as what you're saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/16 03:58 AM
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Sorry for the misunderstanding. In this case, I wasn't part of that group. It was an all female group in another part of the company. I did have some "insider" contacts though, enough to know they didn't have a bunch of drama... they were true professionals. In the other case I cited, I qualified it with "otherwise". We each have our own anecdotal experiences. Any observational studies are likely too muddy to derive any safe conclusions from. My point is, if I'm hiring, I'll insist on profession…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/16 04:06 PM
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Hmm, well possibly you're in an alternate universe where everyone obeys the laws of 19th century culture stereotypes. Our maybe one of those universes that exist inside a computer game? Certainly it's a universe different from the one I live in, on that we agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/16 04:04 AM
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Complete nonsense. Do you ever get out of bed and go out in the real world?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/16 01:32 AM
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I'm a male that has worked with an all female technical group in recent years, and found them professional. I didn't see a bunch of covert mind games like people are seeing. Back further in my past I worked in an otherwise all female kitchen. There were dramas, but I don't think that different from all male environments I've been in. I think a lot of people on this thread are projecting their cultural biases. Don't get me wrong... there are significant differences between men and woman. But I ju…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/16 01:30 AM
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You must be a girl then, since that's such a vapid and self-centered thing to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/16 11:59 PM
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Huh? Wtf? I was talking about feminists having empathy for Muslims, irrespective of gender, given bigotry. Because one has empathy does not imply that one approves of their religion or sexist culture. A really important distinction.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/16 03:49 PM
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Ugh. I'm not sure where you get "Feminism says they want their countries to become islamiphied.". I've never heard that. Though, I'm in the u.s. What I have seen is feminists standing up for bigotry against Muslims, which is fairly strong, at least here. Probably some silly thing called empathy. This does not mean they support Islam, or the concept of sharia law and the like, necessarily. Though I think the two things, anti-bigotry vs support for their religion, get conflated in the minds of som…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/16 07:15 AM
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Then quit putting in complete bullshit quantifications in your writing, like "sometimes", "usually", etc. If you want speak from personnel experience, from your own life. The world has enough pain from assumptions that turn out to be hogwash, and doesn't need you to add to the pile.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/16 04:25 AM
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Interesting how much "usually" and "generally" is used in these stereotype-backed conversations. Where do these generalizations come from? Do you have peer reviewed studies that back up your assertions? And even if the majority prevails for the scenarios envisioned, they may be rooted in backwards culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/16 04:06 PM
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Complete nonsense. We all have "walls" in life. It doesn't mean we're desperate, or even that two fucks are given. And a guy who has had a lot of success with woman hits a wall too. Being older, I know. And still, men and women are attracted to each other as they get older. I don't know where you get this bullshit, aside from RP, but it's utter crap.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/16 03:57 PM
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Holy crap. Are you people real? Do you really think that's what woman are like? And you don't think men get desperate? How much stereo-type bullshit can you play in your head before you realize the disconnect from real human beings that think and have individual personalities?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/16 08:25 AM
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I would be fine being the guy in scenario 1, whether I did the same thing or not. So she fucked some other people, so what? Do I like or love her? Is she intellegent? Does she make me smile and laugh? Does she torn me on? Would she be a good mother? Those are the questions I would care about.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/16 08:20 AM
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Exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/16 08:54 AM
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I'm totally fine with you having an unfavorable opinion of their religion, because I do too. If you as the question, "are the majority of Muslims who are fundementalists more misogynistic than TRPers" or something like that, than I'm fine too. Sorry if you think I'm splitting hairs, but these are frightening times, and the blanket stereotyping of large numbers of people is a really bad thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/16 08:39 AM
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I want to be very very clear that I'm not giving Islam a pass. I'm distinguishing Muslims as individuals, from Islam. And for those large number of Muslims who believe in sharia law, etc., fuck them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/16 08:22 AM
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Sure, I agree with that, and I frankly think Islam is a frightening religion. But, people interpret it differently, and Muslims are individuals, and the religion and culture is, mostly, evolving. Would you make the same blanket question about Catholic men or Jewish men? Be careful of stereotypes, even when the stereotype may be true for some majority.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/16 09:22 AM
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There are around 1.6 billion Muslims in the world. Probably a bit less than half of those are men. I suspect they don't all share the same philosophy about women. Just a guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/16 02:13 AM
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What if they do see it? What are they supposed to do? Are they supposed to screw the bottom 20 percent because they feel sorry for them or something? To answer your question, I suspect both are pretty equally aware that life for some people is a struggle, and it sucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/16 05:21 AM
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Bad father's are a big reason TRP exists. It's too bad. I wonder what kind of father's TRPers will be. I'm sorry that I said flippant things to you. It's a serious problem for so many young men. And some of what TRP has to say is seriously good stuff. But a lot of it is dangerous hogwash, that I don't think serves people well. I've mostly just listened to the Mating Grounds podcast, and have found it really good. I'm an older guy and I hear the kind of stuff I wish I knew when I was younger. The…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/16 06:52 AM
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They're culty when they turn into a secret language. I hate it in tech too. when every other word is an acronym, it becomes too much. I guess I should have got PPD, but I didn't. so kill me.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/16 06:25 AM
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How on earth can you write such a long post? And wtf is PPD. This secret language thing you guys do is a sure sign of a cult. Aaanyway, try The Mating Grounds podcast, and I think they have a new book out too. http://thematinggrounds.com. They teach a lot of the good stuff you mention, but also don't teach stereotyping people, and do teach respect for women (and men) as individuals and human beings. And they're not a freaking cult. The other place you could turn to is a live human being, rather …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/16 07:38 AM
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It's vaguely possible that you'll grow the fuck up, and see "partying" as the empty moronic waste of time that it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/16 06:29 AM
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True. In a way, maybe wallflowers are more vulnerable. Seriously, if a woman fooling around really bothers you, probably the safest thing are woman below your mating value, so you're the best they can get. If you get someone right at your smv, they'll likely want to reach higher... it's just how we're wired. If you get someone above your smv, she'll just dump you. :-) But, this is still all a bit of stereotyped oversimplification. People are different in different ways, and sometimes in complex …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/16 03:54 PM
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Eh, I just meant it as a term for passive, stereotypically loyal young women whom this guy might like. But, I was being flippant. People aren't stereotypes.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/16 03:59 AM
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I'm fine with promiscuous woman. And this whole 80% thing is bullshit. Meet a woman appropriate to your mating value, and there's likely not a problem. If you are for some strange reason upset that a woman might fuck someone before or after you, then just hit on little wallflowers... there's lots of them out there. There's ALL kinds of woman out there. If you stop hating them all, maybe you'll get one for your very own.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/16 02:53 PM
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There's enough people around that you can pull the plug on both, really. Wouldn't it be healthier for you to spend your time learning Dutch or Chinese history, or something? What are you trying to accomplish with this question?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/16 04:40 AM
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Ha. Amen.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/16 04:33 AM
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Yes. Open, honest, thoughtful conversations about gender and so many other things. Forget the pills. Forget the anti-political-correctness bullshit. Forget just repeating crap that you've read or been told. Real conversations based on full out thinking, and focused listening, all around.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/16 04:31 AM
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Wtf. For the record, my daughters know their own value quite well. And go lecture someone else on what to teach their daughter.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/16 02:48 AM
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You base this on a certain stereo typed person. For myself, I think the sex life of my daughter's is none of my business. And, if they choose to have a little sex or a lot of sex, once they're at a reasonable age, I don't think they're "ruined". And any father that does think that is a broken, narcissistic psycho, in my humble opinion. On the other hand, I am very protective of anyone taking advantage of, or disrespecting them. I'm there as part of their familial strength. As I would be for a so…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/16 10:28 PM
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You watch too many movies. And did you never hear of a mother giving up her life for her child's? That's not 'honor'?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/16 10:11 PM
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Sure, yes. But it does not justify the person who is taking advantage of someone, that the person let's them self be taken advantage of. Obviously. Anyway, sure, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/16 10:03 PM
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You may have misunderstood me. Men and woman young and old do what they do. I've nothing against casual sex as such, though obviously something I don't want to think my daughters engaging in. What I have a problem is, is lack of respect, and not treating another human being as a cherished, amazing miracle that they are. This goes both directions, by the way. And don't call another human being a fucking "plate" as if they're your object to spin. I don't give a damn who's been doing what for how l…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/16 11:21 AM
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I call them loosers because, instead of of developing their own innate sense of what it is to be masculine, and to have machismo, they are following, or even misinterpreting, a cultish Internet philosophy designed to treat human relationships as a fucking game. Most RPers are likely wimpy pussys who don't have any leadership from their father, and are likely to go psychotic because they're so confused inside. I raise my daughter's the best I can. But they're not dogs. They're their own selves, a…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/16 11:04 PM
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I'm a father of 3 girls. And I don't trust anyone. Never have. Not men, not woman, not anyone. People do what they do for a million selfish reasons. And they change every day. One day they might be the nicest person ever, and the next day they're bat-shit crazy. And they lie all the time. Now, I love people. I think they're amazing and beautiful. Almost all of them. But they have problems, and are usually partly broken inside. It's all good. I know my daughters have risk every day, and I try to …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/16 05:24 PM
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There's many statements you make here that I disagree with. Hypermasculine does not equate to muscles. And "usually" as in " Big muscles is usually key for a specific type of guy." Is just stereotyping bullshit, fed to you by movies. You can have great muscles (which come in all sorts of shapes and sizes), loads of natural testosterone and HGH, and be fully and completely masculine, and still be ultra kind, caring, loyal, and whatever. And being proud of your physic doesn't equate to being narci…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/16 01:45 AM
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Eh, it just struck me as a funny statement, that at least seemed like stereotyped perception. As opposed to a steroid induced body builder guy like Arnold, would you like a muscular guy that was a gymnast? Or a sprinter like Usain Bolt? Anyway, I did link your two statements. Sorry if I misread.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/16 01:26 AM
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What do you have against muscles? Isn't that part of health? You can be healthy and fit and not be a jerk. One has nothing to do with the other. Don't hate on guys who are trying to be physically fit.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/16 12:06 PM
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Sorry, I shouldn't have resorted to insult. My apologies.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/16 05:21 AM
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Sure, if you're talking about raw visuals. But there's so much more to sexual attractiveness than just the visuals. The visuals just let's you pick out a choice from a far.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/16 12:26 AM
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And, personally, I can't get it up for a woman with blank in her eyes, or who can't have a conversation, and who can't laugh with me. Yeah, I'd say intelligence matters a lot with regard to fuckability. Maybe if you're as dumb as she is, it doesn't matter. So, maybe that's what's happening with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/16 12:23 AM
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Yeah, whatever trp claims, I find intelligence very important in terms of sexual attractiveness in females. Maybe more important than looks, and certainly a mitigation for ugly. Now, there's some issues here, like, what's your measurement of intelligence. But, I'm wondering if you guys have actually known really intelligent woman? Or do you just reach your conclusions from watching a bunch of TV and movies?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/16 12:17 AM
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I find it soooo interesting that so many of you young men are so jealous of woman. Maybe you should just get a pussy installed where your dick is? Seriously, I'm not going to debate the merits of your post, though I agree with others that it's all about how well trained socially you are. But one thing that's for sure is, that jealousy you expressed is one hell of a loosing attitude. The more you think that way, the more likely it is that you won't do well socially, the more jealous you'll become…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/16 08:38 AM
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Well, since I don't eat your lame cult-pills, I don't give a fuck what color you think I am. Yeah, and I'll rescue whatever damsel thinks she needs rescuing, and stick up for whatever child gets preyed upon. Because that's what men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/15 01:34 AM
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Hmm. Well, if I see anyone hitting on 12 year olds in my neck of the woods, you're gonna feel some pain. For that matter, if I see anyone hitting on 16 year olds other than other 16 year olds, you're gonna feel some pain. I don't know about all that other crap you are spouting, but that's just the way it is. Let kids be kids, let 'em grow up, and go stick your boner into someone your own age, or into a rancid turkey, you pathetic looser.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/15 01:18 AM
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People who call other human beings "plates" are losers in any case, whether you get you dick soggy or not. It's a shame is anyone looks up to you as being some sort of ideal. If young men want to learn how to fulfill their life, then workout, improve your skills and smarts, have ambition, be kind and respect other human beings. And don't hang out in stupid Internet forums, look up to loosers, or follow stupid philosophies or religions. And then just find joy in life, whatever your so-called SMV.…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/15 07:27 AM
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I've three daughters, and I agree, "hell no". I'll go further and say I'd rather them not, at any age, date someone that dictates life according to the crap philosophy of some loser redit group. I would like them to date self confident men (or women) who are smart, reliable, and treat them like real human beings instead of fucking stereotypes.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/15 03:27 AM
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SJW? I had to look that up. If only I knew cool acronyms like that. Really? Really? You really think it was advanced? Advanced as fuk?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/15 12:51 AM
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Um, don't you get a boyfriend or two, and have some frolics? I mean, duh. Live life to the fullest!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/15 03:28 PM
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Yep, fair. Totally.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/15 09:29 PM
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Couples counseling just doesn't work, not because of why you said, but simply because people don't change unless they want to, and if they want to, you don't need a third person to explain things. So, either get a divorce. or, if children are involved, suck it up for their sake. Get a girl friend on the side, or give yourself lots of hand jobs, or both. In the next lifetime, make better choices. I mean, seriously, what is the success rate with counseling?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/15 05:02 AM
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That's really interesting. While of course a certain amount of behavior is driven culturally and from peer groups, my understanding was that it fit within pretty basic evolutionary patterns. But, I admit this may well be too much of a simplification. I do have "Sex at Dawn" in my audio library, but didn't get very far with it, at the time I added it. I'll give it another try. Thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/15 07:25 PM
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I don't think they do anything different from men, in terms of being guided by evolutionary response. I do think that response is different, or, somewhat different for women vs. men. And I think these evolutionary responses can be mislead by various factors, miscommunication foremost. People can do bad things, for sure. But, in most cases, people are just acting like people, according to their programming. Would I stake my life on any of this? Nope. First of all, as I said, I don't consider myse…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/15 10:29 PM
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Whatever that quote implies about woman's behavior, ideally TRP does not moralize about behavior, or "blame" woman? What women do is a predictable result of evolution-based traits. If you understand that behavior, and understand your male self in relation to those traits, and one's own evolution-based traits, then you can set yourself up for a successful life. No blame or morality involved. In this light, it seems to me the comparison to rapist and victim is wildly inappropriate. I think. I pers…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/15 06:10 AM
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Yes we can. You want to know what persecution is? Take a look at how women are treated under Sharia law: http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/8481776. That's persecution. Yes, there are some issues right now with gender on both sides right now, in modern society. But it's not persecution either way. Stop the hyperbole. It's just silly. If you feel persecuted by women around you, then just stand up for yourself in a non-accusionary non-whining way, or just walk out the freaking door. Really. You're a f…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/15 05:45 PM
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I don't think it's nihilistic. Taking self responsibility, and constructively leading others is not nihilistic. And I don't think the state of modern society is a decline, but, rather, an adjustment. TRP is good in some respects. But go look at what Tucker Max and evolutionary psychologist Geoffrey Miller have done with the Mating Grounds podcast and their recent book. They've managed a constructive, macho, message without playing the blame game in any way, or downplaying woman. Really, men and …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/15 05:31 PM
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They can say whatever they want about the other gender, and so can we. But, you're likely to listen to a message of self-responsibility if it comes from someone who you see as being in the same boat. There's probably some wise saying about this somewhere. BTW, the other thing I say to my daughters is, never allow yourself to be someone's victim, internally or externally. And I would say the same to any male. So, I'm not by any means suggesting passivity to real injustice or inequality. Rather, a…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/15 06:01 AM
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That's a great, wonderful message. Best said coming from another woman, but I've said it many a time to my daughters!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/15 04:33 AM
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The problem with the Internet is there's so much so-called information out there, you can choose to believe what you want, and provide page after page of links. So, my attention span is way too low to play that game. Suffice it to say that we have a disagreement that gender inequalities are as one sided and black&white as you say. Which is not to say that they don't exist in both directions. My point is that whining is not forward progress. And, yeah, "man up" indeed. Sorry if I repeat myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/15 12:50 AM
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Hmm, I just went back and read your links. At least to the point where I got really bored. Again, I'm not saying there aren't problems. But there have been enough problems to go around for a long time. Here's link for you: Podcast #136: Boys Adrift With Dr. Leonard Sax: http://www.artofmanliness.com/2015/09/08/podcast-136-boys-adrift-with-dr-leonard-sax/. While I'm not sure I agree with everything this guy is saying, he's framing some constructive suggestions that aren't mere finger pointing. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/15 12:38 AM
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Feminism doesn't block the way, whiny man children block the way. I mean that in the most moderate formulation. I agree that problems of young men have to be taken more seriously, and treated differently. And young men are floundering, for sure. Just stop blaming feminism, and figure out how to get your own life on track, and how to lead other young men with constructive, macho, messages.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/15 03:02 PM
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Wtf. I don't understand how any male with an ounce of confidence worries about this stuff. Man up, and stop worrying about feminism. Get your head out of feminist forums, and go do something that doesn't involve pixelated text from strangers.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/15 06:07 AM
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Sorry if I got the wrong impression. Hard to tell from an Internet post. Maybe there's something else going on with your personality than I can tell from here. But, consider if you might be being needier than you think from your own perspective. I'll put it another way. People are in relationships because they're getting something out of them. When they're no longer getting something out of them, they tend to move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/15 01:16 AM
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Wow, I keep reading and reading and reading expecting your post to end at some point. It's clear you're an emotional handful, and you're exhausting your woman friends. Nobody wants someone "opening up" to them all the time. I doubt you're doing that to your male friends. When they're first friends they want to help, and patiently try to help you. After a while, it's, holy shit, what did I get myself into? So quit talking about yourself. Don't open up, except once in a blue moon. And be a listene…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/15 12:39 AM
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Life is imperfect and beautiful. Except when lived for some fantastical Internet or movie-defined fantasy. What is the point of living a steriotype?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/15 06:28 PM
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I agree with you that the first example is over the top. I've had that pulled on me a few times, for similar figure of speeches, and I think it's silly. Personally, I just shrug and try to adjust my speech, and file it under "battle not worth fighting". Your second example also seems over the top, and just wrong, the way you describe it. However, I've learned to reserve judgement on scenarios like that... the details may vary depending on who's doing the telling. I can imagine there could be som…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/15 01:15 AM
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I think the term "feminazis" is really really offensive. I don't read feminism as claiming the genders are exactly the same. Only that there should be equal opportunity. And in my company, both men and woman are expected to be professional and respectful of both race and gender. Yes, a remark such as the one cited might be open to interpretation. I haven't seen anyone penalized under this system, that didn't clearly deserve it. Have you? Or are you just projecting what you think happens? Or repe…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/15 05:13 AM
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Did someone say something to you at some point about life being fair? The fact is, men are more dangerous to women, than women are to men. That said, if a woman made a real threat to a male, I know in my company it would be grounds for immediate termination. The controversy here is, how do you define "real"? I guess I might define it as someone actually feeling threatened?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/15 10:49 PM
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You can be a pretty manly-man, but if a laser guided weapon is pointed at you, you're just as dead whether it's a man or woman behind the controls. And I suspect a woman is just as capable of driving a tank as a man. I am not putting forth the argument that men and women are generally physically equal. Because they're not. But, if a particular woman could pass the tests for being a Navy seal, why not? What's it to you? In any case, increasingly wars will be fought in cyberspace. Note the Vikings…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/15 04:49 PM
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For one thing, it depends on what job it is. For another, the military is about getting the job done. Technology often is an equalizer these days. Also, you can shove your "beta mindset" remark up your arse.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 06:12 PM
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I guess I don't see feminists or whoever asking for an exact equal standard, or claiming genders are equal in abilities. But, if a woman wants to box a man, or compete in the tour de france, or pass the physical tests to serve in the Infantry, why not? I'm a bit older (56) and I just don't understand why I'm seeing so many younger men threatened by feminism. Professionally, woman should have equal opportunity. Socially, they should be respected. For yourself, be a man, and bask in your manliness…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 01:14 AM
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Yeah, there are woman who can beat up guys. Especially these days. Still, generally, men are more powerful than woman, as the op suggests. I really don't think there's any controversy about that. And I personally don't think I've ever been exposed to a woman that I would view as a physical threat. (I'm not a particularly large guy, a bit on the thin side. )
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 12:49 AM
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When a woman, especially a small one, says she's going to smack you, it it usually a form of joking, or even a playful form of flirting. Or at least a clearly impotent expression of frustration. When a guy does it, it can easily be seen as a threat. Makes sense to me. Why the complaint? All the stuff you're asking about woman acting like children is just stupid. In any case, only some woman talk like that... it's largely cultural. [From a take-no-pill don't-give-a-shit-about-your-dogma male. ]
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/15 08:40 PM
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Right, so let's us men not play victims too. But stand up and take responsibility for our own problems. And I'm asserting that a goodly portion of our problems are caused by absent or distant or broken fathers, and the effect is amplifying down the generations. As far as voting blocks goes... Yeah people will tend to vote for their own self interests. So what? Are you now blaming the feminization of men on the political system? Or are you saying that woman shouldn't be able to vote? Or what? WTF…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/15 12:47 AM
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Yes, though I'm not sure those are caused by feminist ideology as such, but rather by a societal need to protect children, and make sure they get good nutrition. I know there's a very fuzzy edge of differentiation. And I'm not defending welfare systems or the alimony system. And I know some few woman game those systems. But, deadbeat dads are a real thing too. And toxic abusive relationships that woman need to escape for the sake of their children is a real thing too. Those semi broken welfare a…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/15 12:34 AM
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It's always easy to blame someone, or something else. While I can see feminism as an influence, that influence seems to me to be fairly minor in the scheme of things. But perhaps you can point me to some RedPill writing specifically on this subject?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/15 04:37 PM
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There are so many cultural influences, starting with economic... Fathers who are overworked because of technology influences. Alcohol and drug abuse. Greater mobility. Sleep cycles that are squeezed (leading to lower testosterone production). A general culture of laziness. Lack of local communities. People watching TV or doing redit instead of interacting with real human beings. So many factors. I guess feminism could be one minor contributing factor also. But to the situation of the op, TRP is …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/15 04:29 PM
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why does TRP talk about how feminism screwed things up, instead of talking about lack of strong fathers, which I don't think is the fault of feminism?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/15 08:43 AM
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There are enough places on the web to discuss your politics. If you think TRP principles apply, take your principles and use them however the fuck you want. But I don't think politics should color the discussion here.
/r/TheRedPill21/01/15 02:34 PM
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Bullshit. TRP shouldn't be extended to cover politics. Scope creep.
/r/TheRedPill21/01/15 02:29 PM
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Eh? Everything is interconnected, sure. That doesn't mean you should try to solve the world's problems. This is just scope creep.
/r/TheRedPill21/01/15 02:26 PM
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Y'know, what you say may or may not be true. Whatever. But isn't TRP about sexual game? Why post all this blown up bullshit here? I think if you try to apply TRP theory to everything, you end up with just another cult. Blech.
/r/TheRedPill21/01/15 08:03 AM
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I like the comment that said, "if you're healthy, you don't need any pills". The thing is, understanding the sexual marketplace, and the differences between men and woman, doesn't rule out love and a romantic notion of the universe. You can make your own life as you want it to be, while still understanding the basic mechanisms, and respecting the constraints and dangers of those mechanisms. I'm sorry, but you don't need to be red or blue, or alpha vs beta, or whatever. Those are their models of …
/r/TheRedPill10/01/15 09:21 AM
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Yeah, you must not ruminate. It's over. Either you fucked up or it was gonna happen in any case. It doesn't matter now. Now you know you can do it. Work on your weight, lift weights, run. Take a dancing and/or boxing class. Take some night classes in art where you'll likely meet other woman. And don't flash the TRP stuff around... It's a sword that should be used with skill. Mainly, don't fucking ruminate.
/r/TheRedPill06/01/15 06:23 AM
6

There's some really dangerous advice in the responses to your post. You've got a long long road ahead of you, with both your wife and your daughter. All children are different. You need to reach deep within you and find your best judgement, not follow internet advice. Most of all, remember to be kind to both them. Your daughter is learning, and will go through many phases. Your wife is following important instincts, as is yourself. Your guidance should complement your wife's, not clash with it. …
/r/askTRP05/01/15 03:21 PM
4

I haven't taken the red pill, or blue pill, or green pill, or black pill. I'm old school, pre-matrix. Mostly I don't try to presuppose reality either way. Because life always leaves me surprised and full of wonder. The RP stuff has value for young men that they aren't getting elsewhere. Yes, there is a game to be learned, and an understanding of the marketplace. Yes, you need to be confident, in control, in shape, and competitive. Yes, woman are very flawed, and manipulative at times, as are men…
/r/askTRP05/01/15 06:47 AM
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Just have your dad set up the doctors appointment if you don't want to do it yourself. He doesn't have to know the details. Just tell him you've been feeling crappy, and think some blood tests might be in order. Which is the truth. You doctor will hopefully do a full panel on you, as there may be something else going on besides or in addition to low T.
/r/askTRP04/01/15 10:20 PM
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I love the citations from the 18 and 1700s. That's really some kind of science. You guys are really scary.
/r/TheRedPill03/01/15 03:34 AM
1

There's lots of fine lines in life. But, to assume your argument, a person perpetuating fraud does not justify you perpetuating fraud as a kind of revenge. That's silly and stupid. Also, these women as individuals have nothing to do with women generally, though I know that's counter to the RP philosophy, or, at least, that's my understanding. What the OP did is make a bald face lie in order to obtain sex. It doesn't matter an iota if the woman deserved it our not. That's not his decision to make…
/r/askTRP01/01/15 04:29 AM
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This is not about sexual strategy. It's about fraud. And I'll take my morality wherever the fuck I want.
/r/askTRP27/12/14 06:34 PM
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Right, it's fraud. Has little to do with any morality attached to sex. It's just wrong.
/r/askTRP27/12/14 06:32 PM
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Of course you should not follow through. Or even meet them. Have some fucking morality. You sound like you know the right thing to do, why are you asking a bunch of internet losers? If you do do it, you'll regret it for the rest of your life. And, by the way, it doesn't matter what the girl's morality is. What matters to you is your own morality.
/r/askTRP27/12/14 08:16 AM
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I'm sorry, that's not your department. Focus on yourself, and stay out of your parents relationship with each other, or with possible other people.
/r/askTRP22/12/14 08:54 AM
You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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