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Idk I have a hard time weighing on engagement ring drama because I'm not a jewelry person, but: Personally, I don’t like large flashy diamond rings. They look gaudy, and I think they’re a waste of money. I think the kind of rings he personally likes is not important when it comes to choosing the engagement ring that SHE is going to wear. I wonder if either she actually wanted a nicer ring and he shot it down, or (more likely imo) she generally feels like the passion/romance in the relationship i…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 03:45 PM
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If there's any manipulation/dishonesty involved, which often seems to be the case in TRP stories about "spinning plates", yes I have a problem with that. I also think it depends on what you mean by "dating". Going on a first or second date with two people in the same week is no big deal. Having sexual relationships with multiple people at the same time is a little more iffy and you should at least be upfront about that (yes, this applies to both men and women). Especially if you're also dating s…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/21 04:56 PM
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What do you guys consider a "long-term relationship"? Is it a particular number of months/years? When you've reached certain milestones in the relationship (going on vacation together, moving in together, saying "I love you")? A certain mentality about the future of the relationship (when you talk about the future assuming they will be in it / make plans X months in the future)?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/21 03:52 PM
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What aspects of masculinity exactly are demonized by the ad? You never see that kind of backhandedness when it comes to women and femininity. yes because women had this entire movement where we decided that traditional femininity is not to our benefit and don't base our self-worth on how feminine we consider ourselves. "some aspects of femininity can be bad" is a conversation we have already been having for a long time and isn't something that offends anyone
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 09:54 PM
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Can you explain to me how exactly the Gillette advertisement demonized masculinity? I just watched it again and it literally just says "don't sexually harass women, don't bully other guys, stop other men who you see doing these things". Do you think bullying and sexual harassment are "masculinity"?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 09:20 PM
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Women call themselves bisexual if they once thought "wow that girl is pretty", but men usually don't come out as bisexual unless they're into men enough that they want to seriously date them. The actually women-leaning bisexual women just call themselves lesbians, because a lot of lesbian women don't want to date bi women. Meanwhile women-leaning bisexual men call themselves straight while they're having anonymous sex from Grindr.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 01:28 PM
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It's probably a factor, but I'm not sure it's the main one, because even high schoolers are having less sex than they used to. I think the biggest factor is probably that young people aren't going out and interacting with people in real life as much anymore, and are instead staying home on social media. Hard to have sex if you don't go out and meet people.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 10:22 PM
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I think because of how aggressively men communicate compared to women. If a man comes into MensRights being an aggressive jerk, the other men will just be aggressive back to him and put him in his place. If that same man comes into AskFeminists acting like that, women are either going to seriously step out of their comfort zone trying to match his aggression (which might not even work because men listen to other men better than women in debates), or the man is just going to completely steamroll …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 06:34 PM
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I don't like it for two reasons: 1) "Women don't usually date significantly down in income" is an accurate statement that I think most women on this sub would agree with. "Women ONLY date upwards" is not. Most women I know are dating men who make a similar amount to them, maybe slightly more, maybe slightly less. 30% of women earn more than their husbands. 2) The use of "hypergamy" to mean a bunch of things that are not "women dating upwards economically". I've literally seen women wanting to da…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 04:34 PM
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Assume you're asking to get a clear definition of what "I don't do casual sex" means? It's hard to draw a clear line, because I feel like there's a grey area where whether or not it counts as casual sex depends on the outcome. Obviously not casual sex: Sex in a relationship. Obviously casual sex: Sex with zero intention of having a relationship with that person. Maybe casual sex?: You go on a bunch of dates with someone, you get the feeling it's headed towards a relationship, you sleep with them…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 03:26 PM
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I feel like so much of men's paranoia about "what if she had better in the past, or meets someone better while we're together" is based in a lack of understanding of female sexuality. When a woman really falls for someone, everyone else (including past partners in her mind) becomes asexual to her. There's no "comparison" at all. MEN are the ones who compare women - which sex is the one who uses a 1-10 scale to rate people again? There's a reason why women don't cheat on their partners if their r…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 10:47 AM
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Do you have an example? I'm honestly not sure what you're talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 06:36 PM
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Where are women saying this? I've only seen men on this sub say this about women, which seems to be a projection of male sexuality more than anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 06:11 PM
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The only maturing I see in tastes is that women who are into irresponsible party animals when they're young, and into responsible adults with a career when they're older, because they themselves go through that same change. Oftentimes these "different" men are literally the exact same man, just 10 years later. Chads get a warm and playful side of the woman, while non-Chads seem to get a cold, calculating side of the woman, and sometimes even get flat out disrespect and bitchiness from their wive…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 02:13 PM
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The goal is to abolish prostitution, but with the understanding that making it illegal won't make it completely go away, so the law tries to protect the people who are vulnerable and exploited and punish the people who are taking advantage of their position. If you're going to make a drug analogy, I think it's closer to laws that make selling drugs illegal, but not having/using them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 02:25 PM
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lol it is not subtle on this sub But seriously this sub/reddit in general kinda makes me hate non-Americans (Europeans included, and I like Europe so much that I moved there) because they will constantly argue with Americans about how things are in America, without ever mentioning that they are not American. If you are talking about American (or at least Western) dating culture on an American forum, in English, and you are from China and haven't spent more than a 2-week vacation in the US, THAT …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 02:18 PM
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I'm not one of those people, I'm the Nordic Model supporter sort of feminist, but I don't see why it's necessarily hypocritical? Thinking something should be legal is not the same as personally approving of it. Like, I think marijuana should be legal. I also think potheads are losers. I don't see why the same logic can't apply to people who support prostitution legalization.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 02:00 PM
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Men abandoned looking for dates in their social circles because they don't have large social circles or go to parties as much anymore. I've seen men like this countless times online. In my friend circle (who are all by definition people who are part of a good-sized mixed-sex friend group), nearly everyone is meeting partners through friends. Usually not dating their close friends, but meeting friends-of-friends at larger social events and dating them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/21 10:43 AM
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Get your social life in order first and put dating on the back burner for a bit. Meeting women to date will be easier if you're already going out and meeting people and going to parties, and you'll be a more appealing partner if you do decide to look for women on OLD/bars. You probably want to get over your fear of drinking too, unless you have an actual reason not to, like a medical issue or family history of alcoholism. "I want to learn to talk to women without alcohol in my system" when you'r…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 03:18 PM
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That's liberal feminism, not radical feminism. Radical feminism: Let's examine the cultural pressures that cause women to feel a need to sexualize themselves in public, and how it affects women as a class when individual women dress like this. Liberal feminism: Women can wear whatever they want because it's HER CHOICE, and no one should ever be allowed to judge her for it or they are slut-shaming.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 09:48 AM
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I mean, it did? Make a Q4W if you don't believe me, but this is definitely a common experience. Hell even with my last boyfriend, I told him my (low) number, and when he was visibly relieved, my immediate reaction was "..ewww". GridReXX is totally right here, it's just viscerally uncomfortable and creepy: Because all women find the male desire for coveting an “untouched” thing for his personal sexual pleasure sort of “unnerving.”
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 08:35 PM
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Eh I lost my virginity a bit on the late side (21) and before that, I always backed off from guys if I got the impression that they were too into me being a virgin. It was a very visceral "ew gross get away from me you pedophile" feeling.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 07:35 PM
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Someone who actually makes a productive effort towards real-world activism > someone more focused on personal happiness > someone who spends all of their time arguing about politics on Twitter.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 10:52 AM
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Germany and Netherlands are doing just fine. No, they really aren't. I'm less familiar with the specifics in the Netherlands, but legalized prostitution is a disaster in Germany. Most prostitutes are poor trafficked women from Eastern Europe. Very few German women with any other options whatsoever in life actually want to work as prostitutes. There's a massive supply/demand mismatch that can only be met by exploiting women, and demand only increases with legalization. How can anyone read stuff l…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 10:03 PM
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Yes they do (some men at least). I think men just have a thing about using the word "masculine" to describe what they're attracted to, but they don't mind using other phrasing like "tomboy" or specifically describing typically masculine traits/hobbies. Or sometimes they will just redefine "feminine" to mean "things that I am attracted to". I once had a man on this sub tell me that feminine women are assertive and direct.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 11:36 PM
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Eh I kind of disagree. I think attraction doesn't really need that much time to develop. You occasionally hear stories of people slowly developing feelings for their friends, but I'd guess the vast majority of the time, you know if someone piques your interest within meeting them 1-3 times. I do agree that meeting IRL is preferable to meeting online, because the cues that cause female attraction* are very hard to determine from an OLD profile and easy to determine IRL. But waiting around for you…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 09:37 AM
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*men will continue to suffer in silence as long as MEN prioritize getting as much sex as possible over their mental health women are not responsible for managing men's behavior by using sex as a reward
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 09:11 PM
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If I really like a woman or if I feel generous, then I'll offer to pay, but the expectation should never be on me as "the man" to pay. read: it is a good strategy for women to expect the man to pay because it shows whether or not you really like her
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 03:52 PM
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First date, he pays. I like casual first dates that aren't too expensive, and a guy who isn't willing to pay for a cup of coffee or a drink is either just not that into you or way too stingy. It's "sexist" but I think men just have a biological impulse to show off what a good "provider" they are, and if that impulse is totally lacking, he's not very interested. After that, split/alternate with respect to our incomes (whoever earns more should pay more). There's an opposite extreme where a guy AL…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 03:47 PM
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Nope. One involves a wiling partner, the other involves someone who is only having sex with you under financial coercion.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 09:47 AM
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I don't think that's their primary motivation though. I mean, you don't see many conservatives supporting the Nordic model - they generally think prostitutes should be punished too.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 06:44 PM
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Idk, I think exes can be friends in certain circumstances, but most of the time their nice behavior is just them trying to win you back or get sex - and if they succeed, suddenly they're back to being the low-effort person that you broke up with for a reason.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy22/05/21 09:09 AM
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Some overlap in views doesn't mean they're the same ideology, especially if they're coming from very different places. "Sex work is bad because it's immoral, and women who do it are bad people" != "sex work is bad because it's exploitative and harmful for the women who participate in it". "Women shouldn't engage in casual sex because their value as human beings is tied to their chastity" != "women shouldn't be pressured to engage in casual sex because it will usually be a disappointing experienc…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 01:20 AM
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The Red Pill and users that speak on it's ideology have been actively silenced from reddit and YouTube How have they, aside from the quarantine on /r/theredpill? Not doubting your claim, just curious about the specifics. I'll admit I'm pissy that TRP and related subs are still around while the gender critical subs got banned, and there's a little part of me that wants to see them get banned because I think their content is disgusting and that would be "fair", but the reasonable part of me is aga…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 11:34 PM
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Obviously if you don't force women to have sex with undesirable men, less of them will do it. I don't know about the exact percentage - 80% seems very high, and even the article you linked seems to doubt this number (and even historical data on hunter gatherers would not be accurate here because it wouldn't account for the fact that "lower quality" men are literally less fit for survival and some would have died before reproducing). I certainly know women who have voluntarily married men they ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 03:33 PM
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Eh I'd disagree. I think if a relationship-minded guy meets a girl he's really into, he won't mind waiting. That's been my experience anyways - I don't totally agree with the FDS "you should wait exactly X days whether or not you want sex" philosophy, but it just naturally takes me a while to be comfortable having sex with someone, and I've never experienced men with options who were actually into me leaving because I didn't put out fast enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 03:15 PM
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There is no "balance" to be struck. The modern developed world has embraced liberal values (in the sense of "prioritizing individual liberty and equality", not the "left-wing" definition of liberal), and controlling female sexuality is completely incompatible with liberalism. It's not about men's happiness vs women's happiness, it's about one of the most fundamental western cultural values. Undesirable men are just going to have to deal, just like they did for most of human history. Whether or n…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 02:32 PM
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He developed feelings for one woman and not the others, due to some combination of looks/personality. Seems like women who don't like casual sex and don't want to be pumped and dumped anymore (FDS) unanimously think that solution is postpone sex for some/long time. Like her 'easiness' is the main factor. Something tells me men don't think this is the case No, this isn't the point of holding out on sex. The idea is to make men who only want to pump and dump go away, by not giving them the only th…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 08:27 AM
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Men who are even remotely appealing to women and are inclined to settle down have usually gotten around to it before turning 30. The men left over are the ones who were never interested in settling down in the first place, and the ones who were never appealing to women (and for the most part, still aren't).
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/21 08:37 PM
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Source? Never seen it. Usually when this comes up women are like "uh, just masturbate without porn?".
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/21 04:02 PM
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Even in forums like FDS they want a rich man because they would prefer to rest on their laurels as a stay at home spouse Have you ever even read FDS? I don't participate there and I don't agree with them on everything, but they constantly talk about how they think a woman should have a career and her own money, because being financially dependent on a man is dangerous. If they could shame a man for masturbating while using nothing other than his imagination they would. No, they really wouldn't. …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/21 02:01 PM
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And who lost the most money gambling on shitcoins? Gonna guess it's men. Men might invest more often but that doesn't mean they are doing it better. Women actually outperform men in investing, according to the research on it. The few very successful outliers are probably more likely to be men, because of higher risk tolerance, but so are the outliers who have lost the most.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/21 03:00 PM
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Just something I've observed, but apparently some research agrees with me: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0092656609002177 https://link.springer.com/article/10.1023/A:1022816428515
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/21 02:45 PM
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Certain types of unstable people, particularly those with Cluster B traits, tend to put more effort into their appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/21 07:49 AM
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I didn't say "he probably liked it" - I literally said it's still sexual assault. I just don't think that other forms of sexual assault are the same crime as being forcibly penetrated. SmurfESmurferson put it a little more nicely.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/21 07:35 AM
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A man being forced to have sex with a women is just as much psychological trauma No way. Ask yourself this: would you rather be forced to penetrate by a woman, or raped in the ass by a man? Count it as sexual assault, which it is. But it's not rape. I don't believe for a second that men who push this "being forced to penetrate is just as bad as being raped" stuff actually believe it's the same thing. I think they're just looking for another avenue to go "women bad, let's punish women".
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/21 04:34 PM
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it's because they think "personality" means "good moral character" (which isn't even necessarily the case for these guys, they just think they're upstanding people because they're too inhibited to break any rules) and not "confident and enjoyable to be around"
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/21 06:25 AM
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Why do you care? Feminists have been called ugly and been accused of not being able to find a man since literally the dawn of feminism. Didn't stop them, why are you letting it stop you?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/21 08:45 PM
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There's not much talking about cardio on a sub dedicated to changing one's outlook (cardio is known to be beneficial for positive brain changes) so I assume that that's due to an antipathy towards exercise. I think it's more that women are well aware what men find attractive and how to find information on weight loss elsewhere, so there's no need for FDS to focus on it. It's a part of TRP because apparently there's a lot of men that are too dense to notice "women like muscular men, and lifting w…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 02:35 PM
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