mostlysleeping Archive

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0	People like to call it "blaming the victim" but isn't it just advice on how to be safe? 1) This entire thing is extremely heterosexist and cis-guy oriented. 2) It becomes victim-blaming when someone gets raped and someone else goes "well you shouldn't have been drunk / wearing that / flirting" etc etc etc. Is there something wrong with telling people to be careful? No. But as soon as you excuse a rapist's behavior in any way or suggest the victim is at fault, yes, you are victim blaming. 3) I don't see how you can compare consensual sex (which is what your "safety list" applies to)…	/r/MensRights	10/01/12 04:32 AM
3	Mother kills daughter-Boyfriend who never met her or the child charged with murder. They are both fucked and both deserve to be charged; he admitted they came to that decision together, and that decision directly resulted in a child's death.	/r/MensRights	06/01/12 11:23 PM
-4	Media focus on rapes and other female miseries while ignoring male executions, worked-to-death laborers, tortured prisoners, and nine-year-old boy soldiers trained to kill and be killed. Cultures in which women are raped arbitrarily are cultures in which men are shot dead arbitrarily. Yes but I don't see why men's issues need to be pitted against women's issues (and vice versa)	/r/MensRights	02/01/12 06:32 PM
4	Yet MORE proof that radical feminists are out to silence all but themselves, the "ladies" at radfem hub stating that transwomens voice's arent welcome in feminist spaces. Venomous's point is that trans issues only exist in /r/mr in the capacity of how cisguys don't want to have sex with trans people (and these are also from cismen's standpoints). Otherwise trans issues are non-existent on this board.	/r/MensRights	02/01/12 06:21 PM
-3	Media focus on rapes and other female miseries while ignoring male executions, worked-to-death laborers, tortured prisoners, and nine-year-old boy soldiers trained to kill and be killed. Cultures in which women are raped arbitrarily are cultures in which men are shot dead arbitrarily. My point was that women are going out to protect the men, but somehow that means the focus should be on the men? If the article was the reverse, and men were going out and being raped to protect women at home who would be murdered, and the article was about the women who would be murdered, mensrights would cry the opposite.	/r/MensRights	02/01/12 06:18 PM
-3	Media focus on rapes and other female miseries while ignoring male executions, worked-to-death laborers, tortured prisoners, and nine-year-old boy soldiers trained to kill and be killed. Cultures in which women are raped arbitrarily are cultures in which men are shot dead arbitrarily. So mensrights is not open to criticism? I'm sure as soon as I make my way over to the feminism section there will be criticisms there as well, as there are criticisms of any movement.	/r/MensRights	02/01/12 06:16 PM
-6	Media focus on rapes and other female miseries while ignoring male executions, worked-to-death laborers, tortured prisoners, and nine-year-old boy soldiers trained to kill and be killed. Cultures in which women are raped arbitrarily are cultures in which men are shot dead arbitrarily. Hahaha. I've had several discussions with people over the last day or so, not just in men's rights. There is a difference between criticism/discussion and trolling.	/r/MensRights	02/01/12 05:22 PM
-8	Media focus on rapes and other female miseries while ignoring male executions, worked-to-death laborers, tortured prisoners, and nine-year-old boy soldiers trained to kill and be killed. Cultures in which women are raped arbitrarily are cultures in which men are shot dead arbitrarily. how am I trolling?	/r/MensRights	02/01/12 05:06 PM
2	Media focus on rapes and other female miseries while ignoring male executions, worked-to-death laborers, tortured prisoners, and nine-year-old boy soldiers trained to kill and be killed. Cultures in which women are raped arbitrarily are cultures in which men are shot dead arbitrarily. You are failing at your own "logic". And yes, that does make you a bigot.	/r/MensRights	02/01/12 05:05 PM
5	Media focus on rapes and other female miseries while ignoring male executions, worked-to-death laborers, tortured prisoners, and nine-year-old boy soldiers trained to kill and be killed. Cultures in which women are raped arbitrarily are cultures in which men are shot dead arbitrarily. By this logic, for every black person that is brutalized by police, a white person should be as well.. For every disabled person who is abused, an able-bodied person should as well... etc etc. yes?	/r/MensRights	02/01/12 04:53 PM
-8	Yet MORE proof that radical feminists are out to silence all but themselves, the "ladies" at radfem hub stating that transwomens voice's arent welcome in feminist spaces. Aren't radical anythings out to silence all but themselves...? I've seen many feminist sites that do cover trans* issues (and guess what.. a quick search of trans in MensRights shows that this place is not very welcoming to trans* voices either).	/r/MensRights	02/01/12 04:50 PM
-21	Media focus on rapes and other female miseries while ignoring male executions, worked-to-death laborers, tortured prisoners, and nine-year-old boy soldiers trained to kill and be killed. Cultures in which women are raped arbitrarily are cultures in which men are shot dead arbitrarily. So these women go out and risk being raped to protect the men, but we should focus on the men who stay in to avoid being murdered... I've seen everything this article talks about in the media (from rape to boy soldiers etc) and this article is just playing the oppression olympics.	/r/MensRights	02/01/12 04:35 PM
3	I just posted this in a discussion in /r/feminism. Please tell me if I was out of line and should have just kept quiet. Please stop talking.	/r/MensRights	02/01/12 04:18 PM
1	If the genders were reversed, there would be a man hunt and charges filed. Uuuuh I'm not even sure I understand your comment. I'm saying it's not normal as in it should not be socially acceptable to spread disease and put people at risk without informing them if you have something. Are there people who don't care about spreading disease? Yes. Should that be viewed as normal/acceptable? No, because they are hurting others. But on the Oops Wave, a lot of people who have herpes don't know they have it.	/r/MensRights	02/01/12 02:28 AM
1	Comedian Russell Brand Stands To Gain £20million From His Divorce From Pop Star Wife Perry (14 months of marriage) - Now will feminists see the absurdity? Don't the current systems favor the person who either earns less or stays at home...? Regardless I think a prenup is good for both people to prepare, so they can decide the terms of divorce for themselves and not have law dictate it. However, for households where one person stays at home, I don't think it's fair to leave them out to dry immediately (regardless of the gender of the person staying at home), especially if children are involved.	/r/MensRights	02/01/12 12:05 AM
3	Comedian Russell Brand Stands To Gain £20million From His Divorce From Pop Star Wife Perry (14 months of marriage) - Now will feminists see the absurdity? Well marriage is also the only situation where, if one of the two stays at home, he or she is not really compensated monetarily in any way. I agree that it is collectively their money, and if the arrangement they agreed on is one would make money while the other stays home (and also works - doing housework, raising children, keeping everything in order etc) then yes, that would entitle the person who stays at home to share the money. It's a partnership, and a legal contract.	/r/MensRights	01/01/12 11:55 PM
1	I just posted this in a discussion in /r/feminism. Please tell me if I was out of line and should have just kept quiet. Also sorry i didn't realize you were the author of that post; I pretty much cosign everything you stated.	/r/MensRights	01/01/12 11:43 PM
6	If the genders were reversed, there would be a man hunt and charges filed. Mmmeh it's not normal either way. I don't know anyone who thinks "chicks giving out the herp is normal" or anyone giving out any STD is "normal"...	/r/MensRights	01/01/12 11:15 PM
2	If the genders were reversed, there would be a man hunt and charges filed. I don't think it has an air of "you go girl" at all; if this is real the poster is an awful person, point blank.	/r/MensRights	01/01/12 10:25 PM
2	Comedian Russell Brand Stands To Gain £20million From His Divorce From Pop Star Wife Perry (14 months of marriage) - Now will feminists see the absurdity? "The man (person) supporting her (or person's) ass" is pretty derogatory and degrading to people who make the decision to stay at home, especially considering women didn't have many options until fairly recently. I do agree that marriage laws need to be adjusted, not because "oh noes the menz are getting alimony now" but because they need to reflect today rather than how the situation was 100 years ago; maybe that even means creating a system of laws for different living arrangements (ex when bo…	/r/MensRights	01/01/12 10:23 PM
8	Comedian Russell Brand Stands To Gain £20million From His Divorce From Pop Star Wife Perry (14 months of marriage) - Now will feminists see the absurdity? Works for free as in does not receive monetary compensation that other jobs generally entail. Do I expect people to receive money for raising their own children? No, but I expect people to recognize that raising children and taking care of the house is a job, and that if a couple decides that is the way they want to divide duties then the person staying at home is not freeloading, as you put it.	/r/MensRights	01/01/12 10:14 PM
5	Comedian Russell Brand Stands To Gain £20million From His Divorce From Pop Star Wife Perry (14 months of marriage) - Now will feminists see the absurdity? I wouldn't necessarily recommend marriage to anyone.. because people fail to realize that marriage is a legal contract, and does not necessarily have anything to do with commitment, love, etc	/r/MensRights	01/01/12 10:03 PM
1	Comedian Russell Brand Stands To Gain £20million From His Divorce From Pop Star Wife Perry (14 months of marriage) - Now will feminists see the absurdity? Yes, the woman essentially works for free.. Raising children and taking care of the house is a job, just like a 9-5 (in fact in most cases probably requires more investment than a typical 9-5). The man is not "supporting her ass," (or woman "supporting his ass" in houses where the man stays home), they are supporting each other. If one person stays home and does nothing all day and wastes money and whatnot, that would be "supporting someone's ass."	/r/MensRights	01/01/12 10:01 PM
1	Comedian Russell Brand Stands To Gain £20million From His Divorce From Pop Star Wife Perry (14 months of marriage) - Now will feminists see the absurdity? If the laws actually start changing, won't the men who benefit from the current divorce laws be against them changing...?	/r/MensRights	01/01/12 09:56 PM
2	I just posted this in a discussion in /r/feminism. Please tell me if I was out of line and should have just kept quiet. Yes I'm agreeing with you.	/r/MensRights	01/01/12 09:53 PM
3	If the genders were reversed, there would be a man hunt and charges filed. Probably wouldn't be a man hunt.. if it is real, which I doubt, it's fucked up either way.	/r/MensRights	01/01/12 09:37 PM
3	I just posted this in a discussion in /r/feminism. Please tell me if I was out of line and should have just kept quiet. Yes she saw a substantial amount of misandry in one post as opposed to a substantial amount of misogyny in an entire group. Both groups have negative feelings for each other for exactly the same reason, and yet they both declare that misogyny / misandry is not a problem in their own groups, when realistically it is a problem in both groups. But in my experience the Men's Rights movement as a whole is often derailed and loses credibility because of its misogyny. Of course people make the same arg…	/r/MensRights	01/01/12 09:34 PM
3	I just posted this in a discussion in /r/feminism. Please tell me if I was out of line and should have just kept quiet. Well it's not really fair to generalize either as either. Men's rights in itself does not have to be misogynistic but there is a lot of misogyny on this board. Both movements should work toward inclusivity (and being inclusive of each other) rather than exclusivity.	/r/MensRights	01/01/12 08:57 PM
1	one for not just us but also for any feminists who are haunting us ... If it is viable outside of the mother, it probably should not be aborted, unless the mother's life is in danger. That being said, while it technically is legal, the vast majority of places won't do an abortion that late unless it's an emergency. Most abortions are done medically (as in a drug is administered and there is no surgery) within the first trimester.	/r/MensRights	01/01/12 07:37 PM
0	Why is "It's my body" a good argument when it comes to abortion, but not to circumcision? Circumcision is pushed by hospitals because they make money from the procedure and sell the foreskin to cosmetic companies. I honestly haven't seen circumcision on the feminist agenda; the few times I have seen it it's always been critical of the practice. Personally I see no reason for it, especially considering an infant cannot consent to the procedure himself.	/r/MensRights	01/01/12 07:30 PM
2	Failure of Feminism feminism, imo, is much more inclusive than men's rights, in that feminism addresses women's and men's issues, LGBTQ issues, racial issues, class issues, so on and so forth. at least the feminists I follow do. If focusing on the issues of one group is unfair, isn't that basically saying men's rights as a movement is unfair...? the point should be inclusivity, not exclusivity.	/r/MensRights	01/01/12 07:26 PM
15	I just posted this in a discussion in /r/feminism. Please tell me if I was out of line and should have just kept quiet. was it in the wrong...? no. did it answer her question...? not really. she even stated "the issues /r/mensrights brings to the table are important and thought-provoking" so I don't think an explanation of men's rights (which she obviously understands) was necessary. on the same token, if you suggest that feminism be changed to equalism, shouldn't men's rights also be changed to equalism? she also highlights that while she supports men's rights, she feels alienated by the misogyny in these thread…	/r/MensRights	01/01/12 07:22 PM
5	Mike Tyson regarding his false rape accuser, Desiree Washington: "When I was falsely accused of raping that wretched swine of a woman Desiree Washington, it was the most horrible time of my life. It just basically took the life out of me. I never again trusted anybody." "who would go to Mike Tyson's hotel room if she had zero intent." Victim Blame Fail.	/r/MensRights	01/01/12 07:05 PM