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Debatemrbesito/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 04:51 AM
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Discussionmrbesito/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 08:47 PM
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Question for RedPillmrbesito/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 01:44 AM
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What about girth though?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 04:43 AM
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I don't think that is the thesis even though op mentioned trauma. It's that we often fetishized what we fear and women fear non consent while men fear cuckolding. It doesn't require it to have happened to you already.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 04:40 AM
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In studies of what women want in a man, kindness and dependability are very high on the list, and being an asshole decreases men's chances with women. They want a guy that is bold, confident, etc, but that is very different than being an asshole.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 10:00 PM
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I don't believe that represents the majority of cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 01:50 AM
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Were they born with that money? If not, there is a range of time where they have those qualities but haven't made the money yet. Men in their 20s for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 01:19 AM
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Why do you believe that?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 01:16 AM
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What?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 12:06 AM
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Yes, I don't believe any of this stuff is proven beyond a doubt and it should all be taken with a healthy dose of skepticism. If someone is having a hard time meeting romantic partners it's reasonable to ask, "what could I be doing better". We should be able to suggest more than "I don't know". Just know it is still trial and error, but hopefully better than random choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 11:49 PM
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Ok, so it seems your main disagreement is with the association to evolution. That's fair. What do you believe biology has found about human mating preferences with respect to evolution? Surely it's something, and not nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 08:24 PM
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What have you read in scientific journals that contradicts what I said?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 07:32 PM
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There is no rule here requiring any of that. It's Reddit, not a scientific journal. I've quoted scientists, linked to many sources. I'm happy to do more, but it's a two way street, and you need to tell me what your belief is if I'm going to spend more time in it. Is there something specific you disagree with?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 07:04 PM
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Or you could join some social groups and meet people that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 05:45 PM
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Appeasement of who? If you don't think it needs consideration then don't comment. I am hoping to shine some light on things outside of the typical RP "money, looks, status" because I think that is an oversimplification that is doing a disservice to the men that accept it uncritically.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 05:44 PM
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Book: The Evolution of Desire Papers: Alexander, R. D., & Noonan, K. M. (1979). Concealment of ovulation, parental care, and human social evolution. In N. A. Chagnon & W. Irons (Eds.), Evolutionary biology and human social behavior: An anthropological perspective, 402–435. North Scituate, MA: Duxbury Press. Allon, N., & Fishel, D. (1979). Singles bars. In N. Allon (Ed.), Urban life styles, 128–179. Dubuque, IA: William C. Brown. Andrews, P. W., Gangestad, S. W., Miller, G. F., Haselton, M. G., T…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 05:41 PM
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You are mistaking averages for absolutes.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 02:41 PM
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We're talking about long term partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 02:36 PM
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Many people get through the door in other ways. Being coworkers or in the same friend group for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 02:34 PM
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Yes, marriage wasn't anything like it has been for the past ~200 years or so. Do you think that changes the desire for dependability? What conclusions do you draw from the differences in ancestral times? There's the Sex at Dawn view that we evolved in utopian groups where women slept with many men and the group bore the responsibility of child rearing. I don't fully agree with that point of view, but there is evidence that points in that direction.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 06:12 AM
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Yes, it's also about consistently providing support over the long run. Raising a child is a team effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 05:46 AM
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Are you aware of any studies on this?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 05:35 AM
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Sure, but it can last a while. I've known women that got all the way into being married before realizing that the guy was in debt.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 05:23 AM
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What are your observations?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 05:20 AM
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Everyone wants someone they are attracted to, so looks are a given. Money is different, many women are attracted to characteristics that have a high chance of leading to resources even if the man doesn't have resources yet. Intelligence, industriousness, etc. and many men fake having money through debt.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 05:14 AM
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At all ages.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 05:11 AM
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I just want to point out that you didn't reference any stats or data in this post. I'm guessing you didn't for the same reason others don't, it's a fair bit of work and effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 02:15 AM
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Thanks, I'm aware. I was thinking a bit more broadly, mate switching versus infidelity in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 12:15 AM
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If you have a point I'm happy to discuss.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 11:53 PM
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I've taken your point of view seriously even though you haven't done the same to me. I then asked you to provide an example of what you demanded from me, a biologist that studies human mating behavior, and you are unable to. It should be easy if you are right.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 11:36 PM
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The authors of the study you linked to appear to be anthropologists, not biologists.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 11:22 PM
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Can you link me to a well known evolutionary biologist that studies human mating behavior?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 11:07 PM
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I'm not sure what conclusion you're coming to here. Are you saying it's better to be a man that imposes high costs on women?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 11:06 PM
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I'm not aware of any biologists that study human mating strategies. If you know of any please share. How do you believe a biologist would contribute to this topic? Do you believe the field of evolutionary psychology is useless?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 11:04 PM
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I wasn't trying to make a statement about that, but it is an interesting question. I don't think these things are mutually exclusive and that we evolved with some degree of all of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 10:56 PM
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Your link supports my statement. A cohabitating couple is an LTR. From your link: It's clear single life differs from relationships when it comes to sex. Here's how: Cohabitating couples have the most sex
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 10:54 PM
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the absurdity of scientific studies of mating behavior?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 10:50 PM
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are you saying that the only people qualified to speak about the science of mating behavior are biologists?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 10:49 PM
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Men in LTRs have far more frequent sex than men that aren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 10:10 PM
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This week in how to contribute nothing to a conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 10:10 PM
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Regarding dual mating strategies, I think you are putting too much on that. You are implying that it's extremely common and I don't think the data shows that. It's very rare for a woman to have a child with someone other than her husband. If dual mating strategy were very common that would not be the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 10:09 PM
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You aren't addressing his point about women preferring men that do not impose costs.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 09:48 PM
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Women's pussies don't have eyes either.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 09:45 PM
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saying you believe in statistics isn't saying anything specific. Different experts think the statistics say different things. What does RP think the statistics say?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 07:04 PM
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Still nothing specific. I haven't seen much deep statistical understanding from RP proponents. What does RP think the statistics say?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 06:17 AM
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you can't articulate anything specific? Different people believe different things about reality and they all believe their eyes are open. What does RP believe about reality?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 11:32 PM
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What are the core views of TRP?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 05:34 AM
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What TRP theory are you referencing? I'm not familiar with any major TRP theory about a pool of friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 05:33 AM
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nothing specific in there. I was hoping a proponent of RP would have the courage to state some of it's views in clear terms but so far none have in this thread. I'm trying to understand RP from the perspective for RP proponents and not judge it based on what it's detractors say it is about, but the no proponents want to tell me for some reason. It's really odd.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 02:04 AM
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You still haven't given a single concrete example of what you think the core RP beliefs are that separate it from non RP thinking. I have, now it's your turn.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 02:00 AM
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I think it has more to do with the financial struggles facing younger people today compared to the 50s. I know a lot of people that would love to have kids or more kids if they were more financially secure.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 07:42 AM
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What does RP believe objective reality is? Why so vague?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 03:15 AM
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I've red David Buss' book multiple times. Most RP people say things that go against what is in his book. It's really odd that you can't give any concrete examples of what red pill means. I can easily go find 100 examples of someone claiming to be RP that says something that goes against the science, and you'll just say "that person doesn't know what RP means". So I'm asking you, what are some concrete things that you think RP asserts? I'll give you one example to start. From the book "Why women …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 03:08 AM
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I was in college then and don't recall being told this.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 03:15 PM
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What I've seen are most RP proponents saying things that go against evolutionary psychology, or cherry-picking only some points of evo psych while dismissing others. That's why I'm asking for specifics which have been shocking hard to get.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 03:13 PM
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This isn't what the science says.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 03:12 PM
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What is that strategy and why does RP think it works?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 03:11 PM
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that's vague and doesn't really say anything. Many people have different opinions about human nature as it relates to dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 05:42 AM
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Still vague. What are the specifics that RP asserts about women's nature?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 05:37 AM
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I find it odd to define oneself by what you are opposed to for many reasons, one of which is that feminism means different things to different people. For many, feminism means that women should be able to have their own careers, for it to not be legal for their husbands to rape them (the last state outlawed this in the 90s!). I think it's better to say what you are for than to let others define you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 05:32 AM
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I agree completely, I wish more of them were receptive to advice from non RP men who have had a lot of genuine success in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 04:19 AM
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Thanks for the reply, and that makes a lot of sense. I'd add that a lot of them are also taking bad advice to heart. I think the term "nice" is easy to misunderstand. Women want nice men! But, they want men that are confident, competent, and don't seem needy or desperate. For example, some studies have found that women prefer men that give to charities, take care of their relatives, fix things for their elderly neighbor, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 03:15 AM
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Thanks for the reply! I think that mating is influenced heavily by scarcity and competition so I wouldn't disagree with this as a lens that is useful when thinking about this topic. Like all models, it is imperfect and an oversimplification, but like many models it is also useful. Still leaves me wondering why I tend to disagree with most RP proponents.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 03:07 AM
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Thanks! What's funny is this just leads to the question, "what's feminism". I know a lot of self proclaimed feminists that believe there are biological differences between men and women. I'm also familiar with the people that claim it's all sociological. I think the science is clear that there are biological differences, maybe that's why someone said that my comment sounded RP. Edit: I also think this highlights where I disagree with a lot of RP thinking. I think the science is clear that there …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 02:49 AM
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I just mean that you've said that RP is about developing social skills and we've come back to that point a couple times. I feel that that isn't what the RP people I interact with seem to believe, but I hear and understand that's your view of it and there isn't much more to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 02:46 AM
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Using the language of this subs wiki, men improving their social skills is not "in disagreement with the general understanding of society in these matters". RP must mean something more than that or it's not controversial at all. We're going in circles now so I'll leave it at this unless we go a different direction. I'm curious if anyone else thinks that RP means something more than men improving their social skills. BTW, one of the things I say that RP proponents often disagree with is that wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 02:36 AM
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It's hard for me to square your last comment with the idea that RP is about men improving their social skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 02:25 AM
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A lot of RP advice the way I've perceived it is just a re-packaged way of training men to improve and practice social skills, ,Wouldn't 99% of people agree with this? I feel like RP must mean something moe than this, because this is akin to saying that exercise is good for you. Not controversial, and no one really disagrees.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 02:04 AM
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I can articulate clearly the differences between Marxism and Capitalism, so not every ideology is defined in such vague terms.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 01:55 AM
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"RP literally emphasizes behavioral changes and factors in one's control to increase one's success with women." What changes though, and why?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 01:54 AM
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You misunderstood her. She's saying that it's fine either way if that's what each person wants and it's not being imposed on either of them by society, institutions, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 06:28 AM
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One thing that is very frustrating is that RP proponents rarely define what it actually means, and this post is a great example. " What even is the red pill? (TRP). It is essentially an attempt to understand female sexual strategy in modern society and use this understanding to design practices for male sexual strategy " This does not define TRP in any way. What does TRP think female sexual strategy is? What does it think male strategy should be? If you don't specify those two you aren't definin…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 06:23 AM
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The data says otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 07:13 AM
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Here's an example that is currently the top voted comment on that thread which highlights everything I disagree with about red pill. https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/196z3cz/comment/khx3h27/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=web2x&context=3
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 04:04 AM
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Not all men, maybe even a minority of men, but it's definitely a considerable number of them. As a counter point, some of the most searched for terms in porn from men are "milf", "mature", etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 06:22 AM
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Saying that women prefer taller men is not controversial. It's hard for me to know what red pill even means because it's always so vague, but it must mean something more than that! . Saying stuff like, "it's reality", isn't really saying anything unless you specify what you think that reality is in some detail. What do red pill people think reality is? What I hear often from people that claim to be red pill is that traditional gender roles are "the right way". Women "should be home makers", "men…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 06:20 AM
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i disagree with nearly all red pill men that post on here, so clearly thee is something that is wildly different between my views and red pill! I think the big difference is that I'm saying what is true on average, but that there is a lot of variability. Red pill likes to claim that the average is the only true way which I completely disagree with. Also, my wife of 20+ years is taller than me!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 06:29 AM
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Makes perfect sense, and I'm so glad to see women have the means to do what they want!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 10:24 PM
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Are you hoping to marry one of those younger dudes, or just have some good times? There's been a bit of research on this as well, and as women earn their own income they start to do this, but it's typically more casual than serious LTR. I also realize I worded my previous comment a bit ambiguously. When I said "dating" I meant "looking for an LTR".
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 05:39 PM
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Which part? There's solid evidence behind it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 07:33 AM
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Huh? How is it red pill?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 07:32 AM
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They tend to lead to high incomes and status. Women on average don't like dating down in those departments.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 07:31 AM
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I think a lot of the pill debates oversimplify this topic. One of the most important factors in mating is the ratio of available men to available women, and this changes dramatically in different contexts and at different ages. Women prefer slightly older men that are established. This makes dating very hard for young men and very easy for young women However, this reverses later in life because men prefer slightly younger women. This makes dating very hard for older women, and easier for establ…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 08:12 PM
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I think everyone would be a lot better off if they didn't pay attention to what randos say on the internet. You have no idea if the person is who they claim to be, or if it's even really a person, or why they might be saying what they are saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 06:43 PM
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I don't think this is controversial. Where have you heard otherwise?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 06:28 PM
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The book references many scientific studies. I can tell you didn't even look at it or you would have realized that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 05:47 PM
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I sourced my data, what's your source? The fact that some guys are having a hard time is not proof that women don't care about personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 11:13 AM
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I'm hopeful that there are people who will learn about the data and change their mind, especially when it will help them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 07:05 AM
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There have been tons of studies on the first one, and women absolutely care about personality. Where in the world did you get the idea that they don't? If you want an overview of some of the science read the book "What Do Women Want".
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 02:04 AM
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Dating is harder for men when you're under 30 and harder for women after 30.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 04:21 AM
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I disagree with your assumption. I don't think women's emancipation is what led to lower birth rates, I think it's modern capitalism.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 10:32 PM
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I'm not sure this is true. For example, many women start having sex before they've ever had an orgasm on their own. This is virtually unheard of for me. Also, many women need a vibrator to orgasm. There is a whole book on this called "Becoming Clitorate". I highly recommend it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 02:02 PM
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You're question is very narrow, and I don't have an answer to that narrow question. However, it made me think of another interesting question. Has the pursuit of short term sex ever led to finding love? The answer for me is yes. Been married over 20 years and it started with a hookup where neither of us were looking for anything more.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 11:21 PM
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When RP influenced people say "status" I think they are misunderstanding what status really is. Often them seem to only mean wealth/fame, but status falls into 3 big categories (if not more). Dominance, Competence/Success, and Virtue. RP often completely overlooks the Virtue status and it can go a really long way in life and in mating/dating. Women want someone they can depend on, a partner for life, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 04:56 AM
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Um, this is framed in the wrong way. For most guys it's about which they find more attractive and a lot of times that isn't about age or weight. For example, I usually find brunette's more attractive than blondes, so I find the two younger brunette's the most attractive in those photos. I also find thicker lips more attractive than thinner lips. The older women have thinner lips, and not because they are older, so I find the 3 younger ones more attractive on that front. There's probably a thousa…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 03:38 AM
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I'm saying that I disagree with that and think that RP is NOT focusing on the highest ROI. I guess it also depends on what you are going for, is RP focused on getting a lot of hookups or finding a good person for a relationship? My advice is focused on helping guys find a good person for a long term relationship which is also the best ROI for having a lot of sex, it just happens to be with one person. Regarding value, I think RP gets this totally wrong too, if the goal is finding someone for a r…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 02:18 AM
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Clearly asking someone out on a date is the same thing as saying, "I'm attracted to you in a sexual and romantic way". This breaks down if the guy doesn't handle no well. Handling No well goes a long way, and has turned a few Nos into Yeses for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 02:12 AM
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I was talking about something slightly different which is when you're in a relationship or have been on a clear date or two. Prior to that many men misread signals from women, and think the woman is into them when she isn't. So you're right, assuming you've read the signs accurately which is a huge problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 04:36 PM
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Yeah, I've been trying to persuade them out of it because I think it would help them a lot. Hopefully the ideas stick in their brain and they consider it in the future even if it doesn't sound like they even listen in the moment. I wish I could go back in time and teach my younger self some of these things!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 04:06 AM
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ah, his grammar threw me off, but I think some of my points are still relevant. RP often fails to talk about what turn women off, and reduce it down to be hot, rich, and high status.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 12:44 AM
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Oh man, there is a lot of nuance to this stuff that is really important and it seems a lot of RP theories lose this nuance. "women don’t like sex as much as men". Women do, but it's different. First, men often are happy to have sex with any random attractive women, where as women often really want to have sex with a couple guys they are into but not any random attractive guy. They want it just as much, just not as broadly. Second, Sex is inherently more risky for women so a lot more things will …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 10:37 PM
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there has to be chemistry for sure, but that's often more than just looks. For example, I lot of women find deep voices attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 03:32 AM
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This forum is a good representation of the average man or woman. Edit: You also have to think about how you ask the question. If you ask someone "how much does a man need to make", many people will come up with an answer even if they don't care that much and have never really thought about it before. Also, there is a ton of science showing that people's subconscious brain makes their decisions, and their conscious brain makes up a justification that is often very different than the underlying re…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 03:01 AM
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The vast majority of women don't have a number They want a guy that has drive and gets things done. That typically leads to a good income, but they don't think "I need a guy that makes $250k+.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 10:49 PM
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Masculinity is the set of traits that men or boys have and women don't This is very wrong is a subtle but important way. When we talk about something like this we are talking about averages for which many men and women deviate a little to a lot from the norm. A more accurate way to say this is " Masculinity is the set of traits that men or boys have on average". A good analog is that men are taller than women ON AVERAGE, but all men are not tall than all women. Same thing for traits or natural i…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 11:35 PM
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I have no idea what you're implying, or what period of history you are talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 07:55 PM
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Yes if you have a degree and/or professional career. There are more women graduating from colleges than men, and women don't like to date down on the SES scale. Dating in your 20s is much harder for the average man, but dating in your thirties is much easier for the average professional man. The opposite is also true, dating for professional women after 35 is hard if they are looking for long term relationships. I have a lot of single female friends in that category that are really cute and it's…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 12:55 AM
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There's a really important thing that a lot of people often overlook. Desire is based on TWO things. First, there are things that turn someone on and make them want to have sex with someone. Second, and often overlooked, there are many many things that prevent people from wanting to have sex. Chronic stress, some medications, a disorderly house, kids/parents living with you, and on and on. In long term relationships it's often this second set of things that is causing low desire, and if these ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 03:33 AM
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This is incomplete. Have you read The Evolution of Desire? Women often look for traits that show that their mate will be able to generate resources in the future and will help invest in their children. It's really odd that so much redpill thinking fails to account for the need to have your offspring thrive. Also in hunter gatherer societies women had a lot more autonomy and independence than redpill thinking would suggest
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 06:28 AM
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I agree with you, a large portion of men are attracted to "older" women. However, most of them, if they are younger, do not want to be in a long term relationship with that older women, they only want to have sex with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 06:17 AM
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What is your goal? Is it to find a great woman for a long term relationship, or to hook up with as many people as possible? If it's the first, then us married men can certainly help, if it's the second then sure you want to "learn" from guys that are getting a lot of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 09:31 PM
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I have no idea what bluepill means. What does it mean to you? I also haven't ever seen a simple and clear definition of redpill, but I'm very interested in the science of sex and psychology. I wish I could go back in time and teach my younger self some of these things.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 09:21 PM
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Not sure if you've seen my comments, I go out of my way to reference studies, data, and reason from there.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 09:15 PM
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We want to help you
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 08:59 PM
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She has to be attracted to you, yes. What I'm saying is that physical attraction is about more than how much you go to the gym. How deep is your voice, how confidently do you carry yourself, how do you smell, how tall are you, what is your shoulder to hip ratio, etc, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 07:04 PM
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I don't think this is right. I'd say that men are not picky about who they sleep with but are picky about who they get into long term relationships with. Women are picky about both. This causes problems for both sexes, they are just different. For men, it's hard to get women for casual sex unless you really hot. For women, it's hard because women that are 6s can get men that are 8s to sleep with them but mistakenly think they can get an 8 for a long term relationship. Dating is kinda shitty all …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 06:29 AM
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being in shape definitely helps, I just think that other things matter more, and the science I've seen backs that up. By all means, workout and get in shape, but don't forget about the other things. Get an education, get a good career, learn to be charming and confident, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 06:15 AM
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That study does not say that other things aren't more important. Not sure if you understood my last comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 06:14 AM
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The redpill focus on this is very strange to me. All of the science I've seen shows that women don't care that much about their men being muscly. Other things are far more important, so why focus on this so much? It's important when you're looking at a study that asks "do you prefer x or y" to remember that this type of questions does NOT tell you if they care a lot or a little about this thing. They might prefer it, but not really care much about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 10:37 PM
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Yes, there are guys that want this. I'm fine either way, and my wife doesn't work and takes care of most things at home. It's honestly a much lower stress life if you can afford it and live away from close family. People don't like to talk about it, but the current system in America is a terrible environment for families.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 10:29 PM
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Can you summarize it for us? What are the key tenets?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 03:50 AM
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I'm a man that is not a red-piller, and I've always preferred women that have a fair bit of sexual experience. First, it often means they really like sex and as a man it is very nice to have a woman that wants to have sex a lot. I have guy friends that wanted the low body count and now they complain that they don't have sex as often as they want with their gf/wife. I don't have that problem at all :) Second, she's figured out what she likes, knows how to get herself there or tell you how to get …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 05:30 AM
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A cheating dude will expose his partner to a loss of resources if he has to split his time and money with the other child/family which is a much bigger risk fo the woman than just getting an STD. Also, an STD before modern medicine was a major risk! Much of this is predicated on certain economic systems which are not always present in human history or societies.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 02:47 PM
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I think it's important to define what we mean by "monogamy". I've spent a lot of time studying this topic, and I think humans are serial pair bonders who sometimes stray. I think the "enforcement" the op was talking about was very strict and harsh punishments for women that weren't monogamous for life when that same enforcement wasn't applied to men. There's a really great book on the history of marriage called "Marriage, a History"
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 06:55 AM
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Maybe corporations use "sex sells" because our brains naturally are interested in it, rather than your implication that capitalism/consumerism made people want it? Capitalism can try to make me want broccoli all day long, but I still won't want it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 06:51 AM
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What??? The science is rather clear, women prefer intelligent men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 06:45 AM
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Why do you assume that the "hot guy" from the one night stand was "hot" because of looks. There's a lot of decent science on this stuff, and women are attracted to men for a lot of reasons that aren't what most think of as looks. They are attracted to guys that have deep voices, are funny, are confident, can get things done, etc. They do also care a lot about height and to a lesser extent broad shoulders. Here's where the nuance really comes in. Women will hookup with the hottest guys from a pur…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 06:36 AM
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