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Recall the original discussion was on their feelings, so I'm not sure why you keep going back to stayed as a presence in your life. You aren't arguing against the topic at hand which is what they felt Also overall more positive than negative isn't a strong indicator. The fact that you have had bad experience shows a gap. You are opting to look at the good experiences and ignore the bad because the bad ones go against your argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 02:59 AM
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Brene brown proves it. I am vulnerable a lot, actually vulnerability is the root of leadership. You need to put your thoughts out there for everyone to hear without knowing what the consequences are. Leadership is attractive, and leadership is rooted in vulnerability. Vulnerability from weakness is not attractive, and if you can't see that now I implore you to test it out. Women don't care about men's weak problems. Give it a shot, or don't You are trying to apply all vulnerability to disgust wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 12:04 AM
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You are right I am wrong you did share. I was referring to the dms you said you would send but then we ended up talking more generally. So I misspoke. Is that all you wanted to say about my comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 11:39 PM
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I never said I don't show vulnerability. In fact vulnerability is a huge part of my life. In fact I've been very vulnerable in this convo. I told you my experience and you didn't share yours. I lead with vulnerability. You are putting words in my mouth and should revisit your assumptions. I never even talked about stoicism, and stoicism isn't about not being vulnerable
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 10:55 PM
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Nothing will, you are wasting your time because I trust the hundreds of peer reviewed studies I have personally read on this topic, as well as other red pill topics, for instance the necessities and luxuries model by Norman li. In the case of vulnerability I've only read her books, but you can ask google if her work is peer reviewed. Since you aren't red pilled you don't understand and until you are we will argue until the end of time. So my only goal is to get you to recognize that until you go…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 09:35 PM
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So you value text messages with women over a highly published, recognized author. Go into the psychology research and find support for your claims. A woman in your life for decades will never tell you to man up pussy your being a little baby girl because women operate from the perspective of being fearful. She would be scared that she would lose you, because if you have a lot of text messages as you say she would be losing emotional support and women care about maintaining social connections wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 09:20 PM
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Your have no data that is wrong. Your experience is anecdotal so also wrong. You can't come to your conclusions either then by your own logic
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 09:06 PM
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Your experience is warped by your perception. Since you don't perceive this two faced nature you don't understand. There are plenty of social science studies on traits between genders such as agreeableness and neuroticism. Again, km not going to find them for you. It's up to you if you want to wake up or not
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 08:46 PM
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Recall that the argument was never how women react, it was what women feel. You are applying the actions of women to what's actually going on in their heads, and that's wrong. Remember what women say isn't what they really mean. They can feel one thing and do another. This comes down to higher levels of agreeableness in their personality matrix. Some women are really high in neuroticism and lack the skills to deal with the emotions invoked and respond in less than ideal ways. So just because it'…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 08:30 PM
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How do you know? Try it here in Reddit in women's spaces. I was vulnerable with that woman in that link I sent you. She blamed me. Test it out yourself and come to your own conclusions. Why? Women are entitled and the current zeitgeist is men are the problem. Women have gaslight our population and this gives them control. Women are very socially aware and very socially skilled. They know all the tricks and men are their playthings. When you learn all the ways women manipulate men, you start seei…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 07:49 PM
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Not quite. They both feel the same thing. One woman processes the emotional state well and responds positively and the other does not
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 07:42 PM
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No, not correct. The biology is the same between the two. One woman is more secure, and can understand that you have needs too, and it's okay for you to be insecure. The insecure woman is codependent and can't get past the uncomfortable feeling and places the blame on you, hence the anger, disgust, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 07:33 PM
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When men are emotional, the parts of the brain responsible for motherhood activate and the parts responsible for arousal deactivate. It's a stress response. So if you are being vulnerable and weak it causes discomfort and it takes a strong woman to work past it and give you the energy you need from her in the moment
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 06:57 PM
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Dms are fine. I recognize you have life experiences here, these may also be conflated with experiences with older school feminine women who operate on the fundamentals of empathy, child raising, emotional safety, are secure themselves, and are willing to be a mother for a man because they do not have such a poor view of men as a whole. These women are incredibly rare these days so I want you to also put your experience into that context. If you are indeed a grandpa they simply don't make them li…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 06:42 PM
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So you have no data and are being completely anecdotal, but expect me to do your work for you? Sounds like you are the one who is refuting to support your views Reddit works for me 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 05:42 PM
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Do you know the concept of matching energy? These women give you energy and you give them back. Your age plays a big part in this. Younger women are less invested in giving men energy because of their misandry. These women are matching your energy but that doesn't mean you are invalidating brene browns work because they are still in your life. You are mistaking my experience of women leaving which is anecdotal to brene browns work which doesn't say women leave. You are arguing the wrong thing an…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 05:37 PM
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See what you don't get is that you are trying to say I don't have proof, but I referenced an expert directly You are ignoring the fact that you are placing your view above hers. Where is the proof for your view, why do I have to provide proof and you do not? You are claiming that vulnerability does not do this but an expert disagrees. Where is the proof about your claim
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 05:35 PM
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And you can find it, but you would rather play the mutual waste time game (to which you just expressed your discomfort at) rather than learn for yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 05:24 PM
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You haven't refuted her work so you concede. Basically a flat earther
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 05:23 PM
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That's fine you can concede
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 05:16 PM
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"from my research..." Not a claim, she referenced her own work
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 05:16 PM
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Stuck close, but did they fuck you?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 05:00 PM
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You are projecting you lost the plot. There is a difference. "My family died in a car crash, it was difficult but I got through it and became a stronger person. It's made me the man I am today" Vs "Wa was 😭mu muh muh parents d d died and 😭life's never b b b even the s s same 😭" Every man knows #1 is the play through life experience
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 04:47 PM
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It's not a claim though and I am quoting her. She is coming from her research and you are saying no to her. Then trying to attribute her words to my words and saying no to me. This is a logically fallacy. I did not say true to what you think I did, re read it
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 04:45 PM
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No it's not. You just lack the intelligence to distinguish the difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 04:25 PM
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True but denying what she said is also naive because she knows more than you. You are also claiming she doesn't have objective proof, when you can google the fmri research she did on this...
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 04:25 PM
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Her work is peer reviewed, it is objective you are just stubborn 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 04:22 PM
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As the expert in the field. Her words matter, yours and mine do not
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 04:16 PM
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You are mistaking vulnerability that results in connection with vulnerability that results in these negative feelings. You are right that vulnerability is a way to connect. Being open with someone about things in your life creates trust, because sharing things about yourself puts you are risk and doing this openly projects that you trust that person. It's a way to "manipulate" another person to trust you in the negative context or create connection in the positive context. Being vulnerable does …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 04:13 PM
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When I talked about disgust to anger. Direct quote.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 03:42 PM
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Here’s the painful pattern that emerged from my research with men: We ask them to be vulnerable, we beg them to let us in, and we plead with them to tell us when they’re afraid, but the truth is that most women can’t stomach it. In those moments when real vulnerability happens in men, most of us recoil with fear and that fear manifests as everything from disappointment to disgust. And men are very smart. They know the risks, and they see the look in our eyes when we’re thinking, C’mon! Pull it t…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 03:39 PM
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Very. It's like kicking the autistic child when he is down. Very sad
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 03:14 PM
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I directly quoted an expert. You have spent more time stomping your feet than looking for yourself which I'm loving
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 03:08 PM
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Keep in mind that the men who are "blaming their issues in women" haven't been red pilled, they are still learning. The red pill is an optimistic view. Everything is in your control. Also you mistake their intentions with bringing up red pill things. A struggling man who reads about things like hypergamy via social science research would be upset, because this lifts the veil of what we are taught. So these men are coming here upset, unsuccessful, and they project that into how they speak. These …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 03:01 PM
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It's not only confidence. It's safety too. Bad men are able to do bad things, doing bad things to people who want to hurt you is a good thing. So it can be a big turn on.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 02:57 PM
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It's actually inauthentic support, authentic support would be being vulnerable and saying what's hard, in a supportive way
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 02:53 PM
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This is due to agreeableness! It's incredibly inauthentic. Unfortunately our society really perpetuates this because saying the right thing is seen as wrong if it makes someone feel bad
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 02:52 PM
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What does this have to do with pedastalizing? That more just seems like an attack based in opinion The red pill is optimistic, some influencers have turned it negative and anti marriage anti women
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 02:46 PM
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You don't need to believe me? You can choose to believe whatever you want? In psychology this is called projection. You are protecting your desire for me to believe you, because admitting that I may be right is hurtful to you. Keep stomping those feet
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 02:38 PM
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Why do you think red pill pedestals women?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 02:34 PM
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Men are like islands and women are like boats. Why would a woman stay at your shitty island when they can navigate to an island in view with all the amenities. As a man you are responsible for building the island women would like to stay at. This is one reason why social media and OLD has completely turned how people mate on its head. It has made what an island could be known, and given the false confidence that a woman can get there. For instance my step sister was a FHM and playboy model, she …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 01:45 PM
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I agree with the energy vs effort argument, however, women want to be shown unconditional love because they have a biological imperative to ensure a father stays. Women become very vulnerable in child birth, using a lot of energy (food), being less mobile, risk of death, so will often test their men to quench their insecurity about being left vulnerable. So they need to blow up or be difficult during the mate selection process to test their man, to make sure that their man is the man the same ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 01:37 PM
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The level men go to, to support women they do not know, is absolutely unreal. They put women on such a high pedestal because they cannot get one and then think that women can do no wrong. There is a book popular in feminist spaces which talks about the different types of love, and this goes into some of the poly ideas, many partners, sexual revolution stuff. It talks about types of men whom are ok giving resources for nothing but basic interactions. I had a female friend with an entire basement …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 01:30 PM
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It's not my role to make you believe me. We are having a discussion and I don't really care for the outcome. I directly quoted her book, you can believe what you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 01:55 AM
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I have no interest in digging up studies, look at my comment history I'm arguing with like 30 other people You said you looked her up, if you did so well enough you would see she is well published and her work is thorough, and accepted. The issue is some of her work touches on taboo topics in psychology. Basically physchology is plagued by this issue we have. Where a researcher will study a divisive topic, publish results, and get ex communicated for just doing science. The world has a lot of gr…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 11:36 PM
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You googled her and you acknowledge she is the expert in vulnerability, I don't know what else to say. If you are interested in actually learning you can find it yourself, but you are more interested in being right so just want to stomp your feet because it's easier to say 🙈🙉 no study 🙉🙉 than put in effort to learn what I have
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 11:29 PM
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You can look at her work. I'm not writing a peer reviewed journal here. This is a discussion and if you want to go 🙉🙈 no study 🙈🙉 that's your prerogative. You can look into the validity of her work and come to the conclusion I did or you can continue seeing blue.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 11:26 PM
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I have read all of her books. I'd recommend dare to lead, it's great and you will see why I speak up for my views when you read it
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 11:07 PM
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See this is the problem 🙉🙈 She is the expert on vulnerability and YOU a keyboard warrior disagree with her. Take it up with her. Her research is fully peer reviewed
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 10:52 PM
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No I just stick to what science says. Look at what is objective, as really what the data measures is the true red pill. There is a whole lot of "taboo" research that is truthful and factual that people here deny. They're still stuck on "that's not okay to say because it's mysogynistic". For instance take vulnerability - brene brown is the foremost expert on vulnerability and she found women feel disgust to anger when men are vulnerable. This is objective, this is proven. The zeitgeist tells men …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 10:44 PM
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Because the studies show a strong likelihood. You do you
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 09:48 PM
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Not being alone doesn't mean not filled with regret
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 09:40 PM
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What's taught among red pill circles isn't necessarily the red pill, as someone informed I would wager the things you are talking about stem from toxic masculinity and the two groups have a large crossover population. You are misattributing what people say as the thing itself, and you are wrong for doing so
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 08:33 PM
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It's not so far off base. It's actually all rooted in psychology research and studies into our biology, historical references, etc. The error happens when people attribute wrong things people say under the guise of "red pill" to discount the right things that are actually red pill
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 08:07 PM
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Okay and I do not question that. So what is your point? It can be age old advice and also be red pill advice, that's actually what red pill advice is - all the knowledge about these interpersonal dynamics and our society.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 08:03 PM
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Is there a point there
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 07:52 PM
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Andrew Tate is like 10 years after the red pill. You have associated People who say red pill things with the red pill and have a complete warped view of the pills entirely. I told you earlier to watch wheat waffles video on the pill types.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 06:13 PM
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No I have just read the psychology studies done on older women and I want you to not have any regrets.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 05:26 PM
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It is inherently red pill. The three original pillars are looks, status, and game. You objectively quoted base looks pillar advice and this advice objectively goes against blue pill advice (except when you contort it in some corrupt logic if I work out for me,then working out isn't to be more attractive and I get ladies for free)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 05:01 PM
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I recognize that you have a good life and a life you are proud of and enjoy. I just think you can do all of those things and have a partner. It just takes effort to find the right fit, and putting in effort is hard. The reason I am making a stink about this is because I want you to see that you could have both, but seeing it that way would acknowledge that you would have to go the hard route to do so. It's easier to just stay single. For context I have the same reservations with the MGTOW moveme…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 04:59 PM
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We aren't talking about non pill or a myriad of places. Blue pill would say you can workout for you, and says be yourself. Changing yourself to become more attractive would be red pill, as the idea that you need to change to acquire a mate is contrary to the core blue pill belief which is be yourself and love will come. A whole lot of "blue" pilled (red pilled) people who say red pill things does not make those red pill things blue pill. These people can all actually be red pilled but say they a…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 04:09 PM
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Look you are trying really hard to contort objectively red pill advice into blue pill advice. You are wrong, get over it
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 04:04 PM
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What a waste of your time
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 03:03 PM
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No I just agree with science, rather than my feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 02:23 PM
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You could do all that with a person in your life. Sorry, but I'm not gonna enable the idea that you are making sound decisions. I think that for whatever reason you have decided this is better, and you are free to feel however you like about it. But also it's reasonable for me to believe you are not sound of mind and are off your rockers because having someone in your life is great if you pick good people to have in your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 02:21 PM
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These men are victims of a crime. If there was mandatory testing then the REAL father would be responsible for giving the child appropriate care
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 02:18 PM
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What a silly amount of hand-holding and over moderation, sir, this is Reddit
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 01:26 PM
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Women make the mistake of thinking because they are dating a man that they are good enough for. But the thing is that women choose first, and then men choose to stick around. This frustrates a lot of women because they find out they are not good enough after dating for a little while.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 01:02 PM
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You missed the point where it's not actually common sense for some people, it is for you. Also you missed the part where things can also be common sense and be red pill, they aren't mutually exclusive. This is you being manipulative
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 07:33 AM
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We are talking about communication styles which are gendered, not affirmative action. How feminist women behave is different as well and im talking about the male experience
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 06:58 AM
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How sad
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 06:56 AM
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Well they're not being selfish in this case they are being stupid. A large portion of suffering men is very very bad for women... It's more selfish to care and selfless too
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 06:54 AM
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But many men are victims without knowing. These men do not get justice. It's one in twenty dude, like c'mon.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 06:52 AM
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The cult is actually anti red pill because the red pill is backed by research and days...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 02:18 AM
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That correctly describes what I said, but from the reverse perspective. It's the negative and it means the same thing... Are you a native English speaker?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 02:18 AM
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And your husband does what? Describe him for me
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 01:28 AM
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Anecdotal evidence isn't very good...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 01:28 AM
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Oh ya I hear ya on that. Agreed 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 11:21 PM
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The FBI estimates that one in twenty men are victims of paternity fraud. It's so many that giving men justice would completely devastate large amounts of families and overall wreck society. In some regions, the rate is as high as 30 percent! It's fucking wild. But paternity testing would infringe on women's rights! What a joke, it infringes on your ability to use an unrelated man as a wallet for your bastard offspring
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 11:20 PM
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Very sad. It makes me very worried for our future society.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 11:17 PM
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You don't understand, it's always been this way. That 60 percent figure is from DNA testing over human history.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 11:15 PM
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I could quote many psychology studies on neuroticism between genders but Imma let this one go
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 11:15 PM
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How do I improve my ladies libido? If you don't mind me asking. Other than getting to 10 percent body fat, that's a WIP. Basically I want the rundown of hormonal influences and then I can look at food options etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 11:13 PM
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Red It used to be about self improvement, looks money status It was then twisted by public figures like Tate Rollo and fresh and fit. Now people apply things those people say as reasons to invalidate the red pill. But at the end of the day looks money game is still correct and good advice for struggling males.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 11:09 PM
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And psychologists like Norman li went and actually studied this He found that there is a minimum looks threshhold that must be crossed before a woman will consider a long term or short term relationship with a male. He and his cohorts also measured a bunch of other attributes such as income etc. but there was always a minimum looks threshhold. It turns out that women lower this threshhold for short term relationships, and raise the threshhold for long term However the ratio of importance for att…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 11:02 PM
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Men worked hard to give women rights too. They had support from men otherwise you would still be property. I'm saying that men deserve the same. If you had a son wouldn't you want him to have good life prospects? Like what?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 10:51 PM
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Most of them haven't. 60 percent of males failed to reproduce over history. Right now 63 percent of males aged 18 to 35 are single. Given sexual selection women are only accepting advances from the top percentile of males leaving every other male desperate for some attention
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 09:58 PM
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Of course they will, because we have allowed individuals like Tate and Rollo and fresh and fit to be red pill. But individuals who say red pill things also say non red pill things. Everything they say isn't red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 09:31 PM
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All of it. Anything that can be objectively proven is red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 09:29 PM
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That is red pill advice Blue pill is be yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 09:28 PM
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Watch wheat waffles video on the pill types 🤦‍♂️ Looks money and game is what the red pill is
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 09:23 PM
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I never said it was unique? Can you please refrain from these obvious logical fallacies and stay on topic. You have yet to make a rational argument The red pill describes real life. Have you seen the matrix??
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 09:21 PM
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No I want both genders to cooperate to make the world a better place for both. Your views go against the spirit of cooperation, which is a travesty. Feminism and your bad experiences with men has made you devoid of empathy for men. Men and women have been cooperating for thousands of years. In some cases women were oppressed but overwhelmingly women have been protected by good men and sheltered by the realities of the world. It's very sad that this has been forgotten
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 09:20 PM
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Yes absolutely, the women I speak to here generally date men who follow the three pillars of the red pill ( at least as it relates to attraction ), looks, status, game. Women would be happy dating a man who has these traits, because these traits are what women are attracted to Now there can be a self identified red piller who isn't very good, but that's people not the red pill. Every blue piller I have ever talked to, barring some of my female friends are red pilled. People just don't want to as…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 09:18 PM
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The data itself is the red pill, Mr data pilled
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 09:06 PM
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Your argument relies on the "appeal to common sense" fallacy. This assumes that something is true or valid simply because it aligns with what you consider obvious or intuitive. However, common sense is subjective, often shaped by personal biases or limited understanding, and cannot replace evidence or deeper analysis. Dismissing an idea this way avoids engaging with its complexity and weakens the discussion. Just because it is common sense does not mean the red pill is wrong. You are right a lot…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 09:05 PM
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Andrew Tate is not red pill, more fallicious arguments.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 09:02 PM
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Your argument relies on the "appeal to common sense" fallacy. This assumes that something is true or valid simply because it aligns with what you consider obvious or intuitive. However, common sense is subjective, often shaped by personal biases or limited understanding, and cannot replace evidence or deeper analysis. Dismissing an idea this way avoids engaging with its complexity and weakens the discussion. It can be both common sense and red pill. Our society teaches men that looks so not matt…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 08:59 PM
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It's not wrong to raise your partner up, that's terrible blue pill advice. It's ideal if both parties grow together I am saying that women would be better off and have less problems with getting pumped and dumped if they chose better mates. Unfortunately they choose to select from a pool of men which have a lot of men who are there to pump and dump women. So I suggest that women change their strategy because we live in a society and the behaviors shitty attractive men are not in their control
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 08:58 PM
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Okay but I'm here to discuss the red pill not crypto scams, this isn't wallstreetbets
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 08:56 PM
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I agree that in a perfect world we wouldn't have bad people and bad men. It's still the man's fault. But we live in a society where this is a reality, you are approaching this from a perfect world point of view and from that frame you are right the men are the problem. But as women you know there are men like this, so you also have a responsibility to ensure the mates you choose are good mates.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 08:56 PM
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Just because men aren't latching on to womens issues doesn't make it okay for women to not support men with men's issues. Two wrongs do not make a right. Both need to step up Goodbye then 👋
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 08:54 PM
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Watch wheat waffles video on the pill types. Evolutionary psychology is some of the scientific basis for red pill ideas. The red pill is just a collection of knowledge about people, our society, and the connections between them. Anything that is disproved is no longer red pill
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 08:53 PM
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Please watch wheat waffles video on the pill types There is a lot of misinformed people who conflate toxic masculinity with the red pill. What does the toxic shit have anything to do with opening your eyes to how the world is as the analogy presents itself via the matrix? You are actually using the appeal to the masses fallacy. You think I am wrong because a lot of people here have a different idea of the red pill, but in fact all of those people can be wrong and I can be right 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 08:48 PM
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Agreed, there are bad people everywhere. This is why it's up to the woman to vet the men she allows into her life. She is a victim and should be supported if she gets hurt, but she is also responsible for ensuring her own safety. Because we know bad men exist it's not okay for her to walk straight into heart break and then cry wolf.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 08:46 PM
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Of course you would be. And you can choose to remain misinformed. I'd recommend starting with wheat waffles video on the pill types before you comment here further.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 08:45 PM
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Appeal to common sense fallacy. Google Venn diagram It can both be common sense and be red pill. The red pill teaches a lot of common sense. It's not about ownership, the ideas can be common to both
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 08:44 PM
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You mean followed the red pill and the red pill worked right? Do not make the mistake of appealing to common sense fallacy. It can be common sense but also be red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 08:43 PM
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He says red pill things that are not wrong, and for instance his training videos can be very helpful for a lost man trying to navigate being desirable. Just because he does those other things, says messed up things, does not make the truthful and helpful redpill things wrong. This is a fallacy used to dismiss red pill ideas on the basis that an individual says unrelated wrong things.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 08:42 PM
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Your definition of the red pill is simply misinformed and you are doubling down. This is why you are ignorant
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 08:29 PM
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Exactly. Grandma told you not to trust a player's intentions. She wasn't wrong. I agree it's wrong at a glance for women to think of attractive men as their predators, but they are. I think women would have a much better time if they stopped dating fuckboys and found a man who didn't value those traits and raised him up. Got him into the gym and built him into a man she wanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 08:05 PM
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You are allowed to be stubborn and ignorant I guess 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 07:54 PM
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No it is not victim blaming. First off, it's complicated. You have a set of attractive men that became attractive to attract women. Unfortunately all women are going for these men because, well, they're hot. So innately women are dating their own predators and ignoring all the men who are not looks maxing for the goal to attract women. Then because women think they can get these men, this sets the standard for all future partners - hence alpha windowing. The men who are avoidant, fear of commitm…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 07:34 PM
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The red pill is actually all about accountability! Your appearance is in your control, your game is in your control, your status is in your control. It's a self improvement movement. The black pill is what you are referencing. Where your genetics determine your attractiveness and you cannot change that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 07:29 PM
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Agreed I did make an assumption, and that was wrong. But we have now gone off topic
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 07:28 PM
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You don't need to be formally educated in what the pills are to follow them. The red pill for instance just describes the society and the people in it. You can learn that by just navigating the world and being perceptive. We've just coined a term red pill to describe lifting the veil to the nuances in human behavior. The term really doesn't matter - as the red pill is just the collection of knowledge of our world
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 07:27 PM
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Agreed, but women choose first. Women are going for these lying men because they are hot. They are responsible for vetting the men they let into their life. Grandma taught women to protect themselves - and they aren't listening and getting hurt.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 07:25 PM
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Everyone needs to have time for it because men's issues affect everyone. This will have catastrophic affects on our society. It's weak minded for you to say "not my problem 🙉🙈". We need people with the courage to do something. Ultimately the victims will be all the men and women to come in the future and then we will be just like boomers who raised the ladder up behind them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 07:24 PM
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Someone who follows all red pill pillars is red pilled whether they were red pilled through men's spaces or through life experience. The red pill describes the rules of the world we live in, it lifts the veil of our society. You are wrong in this case. It is completely reasonable for a man to red pilled through life experience, they just learned how the world works on their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 07:22 PM
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Oh, I was against shallowness and shallow people because that was not one of my values. So when people in my life prioritized shallow ambitions I disliked them for it. I learned that people are just shallow though, and that's just how the world works. So back then I resented them for pursuing say fitness, but later understood that they had just come to the conclusion that it mattered too much to ignore.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 07:19 PM
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In real life it actually comes across as fun and flirty. There is a degree of skill involved, and that guy you are talking about didn't have it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 07:09 PM
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I agree wholeheartedly. There's a great book called "of boys and men", and I'd recommend you check it out if you have boys of your own. As men we have to be leaders and be vulnerable. We need to shift society to acknowledge gender differences, and right now that takes a lot of courage because of the current equality zeitgeist
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 07:07 PM
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You would think that, but it's not. It's more complicated You are taking the angle that the man is hurting the woman, and from a bird's eye view it appears mean. But when you say it with a smirk and a smile, "oh you dummy, you forgot to X", it's actually endearing and creates emotional bonds.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 07:05 PM
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Or it's fun, flirty, and not unlike what your favorite brother would do when he licks his finger and puts it in your ear, steals your food, calls you dummy, holds you accountable for your shit or when the child sitting behind your desk kicks your seat/spits a spitball. I agree that the idea of men knowing how to utilize this is weird, but also it's just normal behaviors that most men do anyway. We're just acknowledging that it has roots in attraction too
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 07:00 PM
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Indeed, how men are raised plays a huge part. The male loneliness epidemic will only further separate men as they never get the opportunity to learn how to communicate with women. It's really tragic because both men and women will suffer. At the root of it is the idea that men and women are the same. But we aren't, and this is an unfortunate side effect of feminism. We cannot acknowledge we are different because to do would be mysogynistic (which is a logical fallacy - confusing a generalization…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 06:54 PM
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Ew? It's just psychology.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 06:51 PM
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Negging would be part of the 'game' pillar of red pill. You are kinda taking a PUA tactic and applying it to the red pill. I will give you the red pill reason why negging is effective from psychology research: This comes down to brother sister and father daughter dynamics. Brothers would tease their sisters in childhood, or male friends would do the same. It's a form of bonding. It's also an indirect display of value "look at me I can offend you see how better I am". So men who neg women invoke …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 06:48 PM
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I'm not talking about the men who settle down, these aren't the men hurting women. I am talking about the large volume of mid twenties to forty men who are avoidant, afraid of commitment, but hot and in their prime that women willingly throw themselves at and then get hurt. Contrary to what you think about me, I am one of those men who picked one good one and got out. Always treated ladies like ladies. I just recognize what else is going on, for instance my cousin who sleeps with multiple women …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 06:38 PM
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It's not an assumption. You can look at any given man and identify what his values are through his behaviors. Clean cut man, good haircut, well dressed, good style, fit, muscular - aligns 100 percent with the looks based red pill (pillar 1 - looks are in your control). Successful man, good career or success in business. Able to provide, care, has a nice island. This aligns with status based red pill (pillar 2 - your status is in your control. This comes down to the following: men are like island…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 06:33 PM
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Good leaders are also good listeners? Where are you going with this, you changed the topic so what are we talking about now.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 06:28 PM
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Are you familiar with Venn diagrams from elementary school? These can be self help things and also red pill. The self help guides usually are just red pill advice. Because the red pill just describes how men and women behave and how our society works.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 06:25 PM
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Okay but that doesn't change how many people are red pilled. Most blue pilled women I talk to end up just telling me they are red pilled through their views on appearance, and descriptions of the man they are dating/married to.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 06:24 PM
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There is no insult but only the truth. You are unwilling to be a leader and raise both men and women up, it's a fact. And that's because doing nothing is easier than doing something hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 06:23 PM
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No it's not. The red pill is an optimistic view about self improvement. People have warped and twisted the red pill to fit whatever narrative they are trying to push. There is nothing wrong with the three core pillars of the red pill. Your looks are in your control, your status Is in your control, and your game is in your control.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 06:22 PM
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Agreed - it's really difficult and challenging to navigate. I'm not saying it's easy for women but women choose first. A man makes an advance and the woman says yes or no. Women are responsible for vetting the men they keep in their company - and the sad thing is some men are really good at hiding. So these women get hurt. I'm not trying to say that it's all womens fault, but women cannot take zero accountability because ultimately they choose who they sleep with barring any forced sexual assaul…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 06:20 PM
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My point is that ladies give themselves willingly to attractive men, then get upset when the attractive man leaves. They need to take accountability for being so easy, and they need to recognize that they are competing against all other women who are also doing the same. A man who has infinite access to sex has no reason to settle down, and a man like this has no reason to accept anything but the best woman. So because women do not follow the rules that their grandmother's told them, they give m…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 06:17 PM
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No but concepts they didn't create can still be red pill even if they are common sense. The red pill is just a collection of ideas that represent human behavior - you don't get to selectively remove what's red pill because it's also common sense. Have you seen a venn diagram before or understand set theory in mathematics?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 06:13 PM
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Actually women are more like "men don't need help that's mysogynistic", and they bring men down. You are part of a society and although you can choose to opt out of improving it, that's also weak minded. You just don't have the courage to do what's right.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 06:12 PM
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Your argument relies on the "appeal to common sense" fallacy. This assumes that something is true or valid simply because it aligns with what you consider obvious or intuitive. However, common sense is subjective, often shaped by personal biases or limited understanding, and cannot replace evidence or deeper analysis. Dismissing an idea this way avoids engaging with its complexity and weakens the discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 06:10 PM
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I didn't have these views, I watched every man I met have them and be successful and finally caved only to figure out they were right all long I actually despised them like you do
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 06:10 PM
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Your argument relies on the "appeal to common sense" fallacy. This assumes that something is true or valid simply because it aligns with what you consider obvious or intuitive. However, common sense is subjective, often shaped by personal biases or limited understanding, and cannot replace evidence or deeper analysis. Dismissing an idea this way avoids engaging with its complexity and weakens the discussion. It may be obvious to some or even most. But that doesn't make it wrong! It is red pill e…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 06:09 PM
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Agreed! This is lack of fathers and weak fathers, and a society which doesn't teach how people actually work.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 05:52 PM
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Playing hard to get.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 05:51 PM
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So you literally just quoted looks based red pill theory. You are red pilled.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 05:51 PM
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Which supports the red pill and the Tate. Thank you!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 05:50 PM
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It's not lying. Next time you walk down the street look at the older gentle man. Dad bods galore. Look at the younger crowd. They're either looks maxing or completely oblivious to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 05:50 PM
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15 years ago is when my friends all were on the body building forums where this stuff started. Men started sharing their experiences and this ended up in the red pill we have today. I've actually observed this happening over time
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 05:48 PM
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My self esteem did take a hit, but I was wildly successful in all other areas of my life. By thirty I was working in AI cancer detection research at a big well known FAANG company. I also had in my earlier years been the center of attention. Was the first boy to kiss a girl, and was a very competitive sports player. So I had a lot of drive and determination which gave me tangible success in the real world, just my chosen career path meant I gained a few pounds.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 05:47 PM
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Both sides are victims. I am not blaming the victims. You glossed over the fact that stronger and better men is good for women. So although I resonate with your indignation it also takes strength, courage, and vulnerability to do what's right for both men and women. Your approach is to bring down men, my approach is to raise men up so that both men and women can succeed.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 05:45 PM
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This is actually rooted gendered communication. You are right is a consequence of male dominated spaces Psychologists for instance took ten young women who had not been around boys and put them in a room. They took ten young boys who hadn't been around girls and did the same. They found that the girls would utilize indirect communication, and the boys would utilize direct communication. Women tend to score higher in agreeableness so are less authentic. They require more emotional safety and reco…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 05:43 PM
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No it does not, but you are using the exception makes the rule fallacy. Just because there are men who are not red pilled does not mean a lot of men are not. The generalization still holds true despite there being outliers. Men who are fit, muscular, good careers, have good social skills, know how to flirt, know how to be good in bed, know what women need and how to handle their behaviors are red pilled. Even if they don't ascribe to red pill content creators, they follow the red pill to a T. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 04:28 PM
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That is not what I said, what you are doing is something called putting words in my mouth and that is not OK. I recognize this is a difficult charged topic but please keep this discussion rational. I am saying that women are not devoid of accountability under the basis that they choose who they let enter their life. They put themselves in vulnerable positions. Just like you said earlier - women used to be warned. They used to follow advice which protected them. They are not following that advice…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 04:25 PM
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Why do you think it's up to men to solve? I don't agree that men created this problem. Your take assumes that these women who were hurt had no agency, no accountability, and that's wrong. I'm sorry but if you as a woman allow yourself to be put in dangerous situations with dangerous shitty men you are also accountable for that. You choose who you interact with and barring any physical force you are responsible for the people you introduce into your life. So yeah you are right there is a lot of w…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 04:11 PM
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You can agree to disagree, but as a 30 something male almost every man I know is red pilled. The men you are sleeping with are red pilled. They follow the red pill to a T. So imagine what it would be like for men here who see this happening, who are repeatedly gaslight and told that the red pill is wrong. When they see every single day that their red pill friends are attracting women and they have to choose to accept the reality we live in (red pill) or become bitter and resentful (black pill).
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 04:08 PM
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Except I'm not wrong. You probably slept with many fit attractive men. Had good careers, were flirty and had good social skills. They had all three pillars of the red pill : looks, status, game.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 03:55 PM
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Doing the right thing isn't always doing the right thing. Men and women are complicated. There are biological processes that are engrained in our behaviors. You can be the best listener, the most caring and supportive man, but as soon as you choose to not stand up for yourself you look weak. So although letting it go is the right thing, it's the wrong thing when it comes to attraction. Being nice isn't attractive. You are confusing being nice with being good. A good man is strong, has strong bou…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 03:53 PM
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I guarantee that a vast majority of the men you sleep with as a promiscuous women are the very red pilled men you fight against here. Around 14 years ago I watched as every single one of my male friends slowly succumbed to the red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 03:45 PM
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Ya shits fucked The things he said aren't wrong though, there is actually a book on the topic called "Of boys and men". Men are struggling, and raising men up is seen as an attack on women. It's actually just indignant misandry. It's systemic! Yes many men are dogs, but these struggling men aren't dogs. They will become dogs if they aren't raised up. And as a society we need to acknowledge their struggles and make a better society for men and women. Women do show that they won't date men less ed…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 03:43 PM
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Always had confidence. What scam? For context I found a good one and got out, I think you are projecting something here. I always treat women with the utmost respect and always treated a lady like a lady should be treated. Do not get mad at me because you gave yourself to shitty men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 03:38 PM
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Okay we are having two different conversations. I see that now. I agree with your experiences and understand that's how things used to be. Grandma had your back as a lady and taught women how to protect themselves. The experience I have now is that as a man who was a good man, who did all the right things, that bit me in the ass and I found myself with never having a girlfriend in my 30s. The standards were absurdly high and it's not like I wasn't well liked, well socialized, or lacked achieveme…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 03:34 PM
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I'm 35 thank you very much At least try to respond. I clearly don't agree with you, you should have an open mind. If you are much older than me than you wouldn't understand the dating dynamics of people like me who were 18 when tinder came out.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 03:23 PM
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What a ridiculous take. My experience as a man: single until 30. Couldn't get a date, no interest from women. I follow the Tate, at least looks status and game. Get muscular update my photos: 8 first dates within two weeks of doing so. Years of trying to get a girl to even agree to coffee, then I'm being swarmed by the ladies. Oh and the kicker? Half of them invited me to their place for a second "date" Your take is so far off from the experience attractive men get. When you are attractive women…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 03:06 PM
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And a lot of his advice isn't wrong if you have any modicum experience dating women as a man. So when people say he is wrong, they just reinforce the men who believe some of the things he says. Yes he does say some bad shit too, I'm not negating that. But he also gives some real truths and his advice works so what ya gonna do 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 03:00 PM
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Over 60 percent of relationships begin on the app, your take absurd
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 07:21 PM
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Because of the hypergamy associative mating cycle. Women seek partners that satisfy their hypergamy, and when they cannot satisfy hypergamy they settle for equals but not less than. Women's success as a whole raises the bar for all men. I wouldn't say it's ideal for our society to lower women, but it's objectively true that men being more successful comparatively would make dating easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 07:08 PM
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Lots of dating app data https://www.inverse.com/culture/36379-tinder-black-women-asian-men-racism The book dataclysm who we are when no one is looking is really telling as well, written by the co-founder of ok Cupid
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 06:59 PM
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This is what the blue pillers will never understand. they would validate the red pill if they opened their eyes to how the world and people actually work. Your boss who looks you in the eye, tells you that you are getting a 1 percent raise when you busted your ass off all year for him, "sorry beta Bob it's all I can do for ya smirk". When your sexless marriage inevitably happens "you don't do enough foreplay, I don't feel connected to you, you don't x, you don't y, you don't z". They turn you in…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 04:18 PM
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Uh the red pill is an optimistic view. Your attractiveness is in your control. Your social status is in your control. Your ability to seduce others is in your control. It doesn't bully, it tells men what is attractive to men and women. People bully, not the red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 12:22 PM
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Thank you for sharing your experience, I resonated with every word. I also got the high T jawline. It's a huge indicator of healthy testosterone and very attractive. Keep preaching brother, help the fellow fatties. Keep strong and be a leader. More men need to know that even being a little fat just isn't okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 01:10 AM
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No, it's being rational. These men are every bit as deserving of intimate human connection as less attractive men. Friendships are not the same as intimate relationships, they are not a replacement, and no sane person would think so
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 11:29 PM
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They have measured the effect of skin color too. For instance over 50 percent of Asian women go for white men.you can look at the same rates for Spanish women
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 03:32 AM
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Completely true and that's what's so fucked up about it
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 01:23 AM
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Not true. Please look up R values for mate selection. Each of these have measured tangible influence on attractiveness threshhold and height is certainly one of them. For instance waist to hip ratio for women. These have been measured and you are simply misinformed.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 08:44 PM
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Short is ugly. Look at how many other men short men are competing with versus how many men tall men are. They're like 30x less likely when short
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 08:00 PM
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Google "number of male competitors by height"
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 06:16 PM
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Oh yeah man. I used to be a little fat, not big fat but the chubby kid. I had girls TURN THEIR CARTS AROUND at the other end of the super market isle. I would catch their eye and boom - fear, desperation, turn that bitch around and gtfo. I never once had any girl ever message me on social media. Now I'm in my early 30s. Had the career in tech. Decided my life was finally in order, senior software engineer at Microsoft in Research department no less. At this point turbo ghosted on apps for years.…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 10:54 PM
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Yes but just because you are valued for your beauty and women are valued for their beauty, does not mean these men should be shamed for believing in the idealistic world that society has told them is true. This means you actually are looks based red pilled. You are red pilled and shitting on the men who are not. (Looks is one of the three pillars). These are good men who are not shallow and do not derive their worth from their appearance. There is nothing in the red pill about getting loads of w…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 07:21 PM
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That's okay. It takes courage and energy to be a leader. Sometimes you fail and that's okay 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 06:11 PM
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Of course, but unless someone assertive can call her out for her damaging and negative beliefs she won't change.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 06:07 PM
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Seek understanding. If you were a man and you were valued for your ability to acquire sexual relationships (see how virgins are treated and how you are treating undesired men right now for context) then you would project that by talking about access to sex and talking about women only having sex with top percentile men. Why would they do this? Because they have been ignored, never considered, and are now being shamed. These men need to be taught what is attractive and how to make themselves attr…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 05:55 PM
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Indeed, and that is not depression. This isn't an issue about just getting dicks wet. No one sane of mind would think that these men are only looking for sex. And even then, there is nothing wrong with wanting sex in the first place? Sex is fun, enjoyable, releases a lot of feel good hormones as is good for both men and women's overall mental well being. Are you trying to say that wanting sex is wrong or something - why do you feel this way? Keep in mind the entire reason why these men are not h…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 05:33 PM
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I never brought up depression? I think you are confusing my words with someone else's or you are actually completely unhinged. This is a case of you putting words in my mouth. I do not believe that friendships are a replacement for the regulating effects of oxytocin and serotonin and other feel good hormones that are released in response to physical affection and pair bonding. Imo this is you being a little naive .
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 05:22 PM
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Love and companionship are distinct from friendship. They also need friendship. Humans are social creatures. That's because you are being manipulative and changing the topic to be about the causes of depression. We are not talking about the cause of depression so I let it go. In the future can you please avoid changing the topic and derailing the conversation? We are talking about male loneliness and your lack of empathy
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 05:14 PM
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What is there to expand on. Can you elaborate on what is not clear to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 04:32 PM
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Wanting love and companionship is very different from wanting the latest tech gadgets, but you know this already. You are just doubling down and being a troll. If you care about male suicide then you should care about male loneliness. I would wager that loneliness and lack of companionship are major contributors to male suicide. But you know this, you are acting ignorant but I am confident you are anything but.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 04:31 PM
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No just telling you the facts.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 04:20 PM
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Only damaged and hurt misandrist women are rolling their eyes at the male loneliness topic. I think everyone else can see that it is a big deal for those men and also a big deal for women who are struggling to find valuable mates. Only someone really insecure would equate tangible struggles that affect a large portion of men with first world problems
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 04:19 PM
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The delusion hey 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 04:10 PM
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Ill tell you what I do not define whining as: talking about the struggle one faces. If these struggles weren't real or tangible it would be whining. Only individuals with avoidant attachment styles would think otherwise. I'm sorry you are this way
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 04:09 PM
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It's clear to everyone else but you. Think on it
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 04:05 PM
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No, being whiny is your insecure, naive, and damaging interpretation of their behaviour. No because when men show weakness women feel disgust because that's how their programming works.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 04:05 PM
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You need help
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 04:02 PM
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Men here are not whining they are being vulnerable. Brene brown found that when men are vulnerable women respond in a range from disgust to annoyance. You just lack the self awareness to identify this in your behavior
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 03:58 PM
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I had three friend groups that I had collected over the years, the only thing I didn't have was a girlfriend. It's because I was 30lb overweight on a large frame. I lost it in three months and got jacked and never had issues getting a date within a few app messages from then on. I think I spent two years without getting a single date invitation getting accepted prior. Stop assuming men just lack social skills. It's ignorant as hell because by doing so you demonstrate you have a lack of social sk…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 03:10 PM
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Isn't telling someone else you have pretty eyes the opposite of shy? That's a pretty vulnerable thing to say...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 03:07 PM
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