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Discussionms_kittyfantastico/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/15 07:01 PM
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ms_kittyfantastico/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/14 03:41 PM
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While I agree with you, how much different is it than wearing clothes in general? I have been raised in a society where nudity is wrong, and revealing clothes are considered trashy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/15 03:24 PM
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Then gays would go for masculinity and lesbians would go for femininity. But that's not always the case, so sexual orientation doesn't always have to do with our idea of gender, assuming gender is a social construct.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/15 01:03 AM
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Ok
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/15 06:37 PM
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I read the whole thing. I noped out of trying to say anything redeeming about it when it's riddled with similar statements to the one in the second paragraph.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/15 06:29 PM
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Being famous does not indicate good reasoning skills. One need only look at a woman’s shape to discover that she is not intended for either too much mental or too much physical work. That's where I noped out because it is a ridiculous statement full of subjective terms. The rest of the essay is an eye-rolling festival of entertainment from a supposedly great philosopher.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/15 05:26 PM
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I agree; he has some pretty dumb reasoning. Edit: my "witty" one liners come from the pointlessness of this post. It is better suited for TRP than PPD. What's there to debate here?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/15 12:45 AM
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Matzah might not be too bad with Cheez Whiz though.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/15 11:45 PM
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Are you a feminist who's convinced im a shitlord? No.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/15 10:36 PM
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With the lack of a sense of community now, I seriously don't see this happening. Interesting read, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/15 04:38 PM
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I guess this answers the legal part. “If the victim was incapable of giving consent because of his/her youth or mental impairment, either temporary or permanent, law enforcement should classify the offense as Rape.” I was asking your opinion on the difference between coercion and threat of bodily harm. I assume psychological abuse would fall under mental impairment.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/15 10:57 PM
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No, but it's hard to tell a difference between the crazies and the trolls. But does anyone take PPD too seriously anyway? :)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/15 10:38 PM
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Coercion: "If you don't let me fuck you I am not going to pay for your [food; medical bills; etc.] tomorrow" Do you think psychological abuse is a thing? Are you of the same opinion when it comes to children who are victims of rape?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/15 10:36 PM
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How is coercion different from a threat of harmful force?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/15 10:09 PM
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"Does not equal" does not mean "not mutually exclusive", it means the one statement does not imply the others.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/15 07:13 PM
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While I disagree, Statement 1 = There are uniquely male challenges that all men face that women can't understand Statement 2 = women have no sympathy or empathy for men Statement 3 = Women see men as pure utility Statement 4 = women don't even view men as full human beings Statement 1 != (statement 2, 3, 4) Stop embarrassing yourself and TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/15 06:39 PM
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You cannot physically put yourself in another man's shoes. You cannot understand that man's experience. Don't bastardize the meaning of QED.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/15 06:30 PM
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Still, it does you no credit to characterize TheRedPill's membership as a unified entity in any way, shape or form, because it isn't. That is rather convenient. I never said they were (or weren't) misogynistic homophobic racist conspiratards, but the fact is that many people see them that way. Here's an interesting thing I found... http://idibon.com/toxicity-in-reddit-communities-a-journey-to-the-darkest-depths-of-the-interwebs/
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/15 09:42 PM
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You should probably edit your post to state this because your intention is unclear.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/15 09:13 PM
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I think #1, #4 still satisfy this
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/15 09:11 PM
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The difference is that with those guys, what you hear is what you get. However, you guys make it sound like TRP is full of insane misogynistic homophobic racist conspiratards. People who don't sub to TheBluePill think these things as well. I mean, there's a difference (between antivaxxers, racists, and TheRedPill), but not by a whole lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/15 09:05 PM
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By the time someone is "there", the then alphas are already hit their wall, and no longer appeal to the so called plates. By this statement, it seems there is little to no incentive to "swallowing the red pill." Edit: Suppose everyone found TRP as a teenager and honed their skills over the years (before the wall). The question remains: How big could red pill get before the alphas have to come up with a new strategy to compete for those plates?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/15 09:01 PM
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Pa law doesn't have consent in the elements of the crime, force must be shown. source: law school Since you went to law school, I was asking for some specific examples of how this is used/shown in the courtroom.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/15 08:52 PM
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force must be shown. Force is less ambiguous In the form of bruises or what? Still seems pretty ambiguous to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/15 05:49 PM
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their hands directly in the role of government Nordic model of prostitution For educational purposes, could you point me to some of these things?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/15 07:24 PM
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I chuckled
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/15 06:56 PM
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it seems weird for manipulative liars to distort it to an obviously false number for their personal political purposes. I have heard so many different numbers I find it difficult to believe any of them. If anything, we should be addressing the much higher rate of rape in impoverished areas, affecting impoverished women. Not spoiled rich girls who are incredibly unlikely to be victimized. Not everyone who goes to college are spoiled rich; that's why there are so many scholarships and federal/stat…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/15 06:48 PM
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I agree, but "stress" is different from "depression."
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/15 11:19 PM
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I am Jack's lack of contribution.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/15 11:07 PM
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While it's true that they may be less sensitive, it's also true that they may be equally or MORE sensitive. It seems rather intuitive to assume that they're at least equally sensitive as boys. So can you explain what you mean by this?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/15 05:27 PM
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Do you have any source on this?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/15 02:05 PM
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what findings? The link I posted. While it's true that they may be less sensitive, it's also true that they may be equally or MORE sensitive. It seems rather intuitive to assume that they're at least equally sensitive as boys. I guess I misread this?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/15 02:05 AM
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It seems rather intuitive to assume that they're at least equally sensitive as boys. It does seem intuitive, but the findings suggest that they are less sensitive to these events. While it's true that they may be less sensitive, it's also true that they may be equally or MORE sensitive. You cannot be less than something and also equal to or greater than something.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/15 12:39 AM
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The source is the article OP posted.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/15 11:58 PM
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Statistically speaking, I wonder. Not individually speaking.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/15 10:50 PM
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I suspect it might be the case, but I can't find data to back this up.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/15 08:57 PM
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They looked at more than just the traditional family, though. Not necessarily married couples.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/15 07:38 PM
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Thus, they may be less sensitive to the increasing trend towards non-marital childbearing, divorce, and remarriage. This claim -- from criminal delinquency behavior to behavior in other aspects of life -- is interesting and potentially related to both sexual and LTR behaviors.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/15 07:27 PM
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I wonder if those who have sex later are also the ones who are highly religious or have more social pressure, if that's even quantifiable. This would explain a low partner count as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/15 06:18 PM
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I've been trying to look it up, but I can't seem to find evidence to back this claim up. (Does she have a medical background I don't know about?) All I can find is that women are more prone to knee injuries due to greater muscular abduction and adduction in the lower extremities. This paper seems to compile information from a lot of previous literature on the subject. While gender differences are recognized, they seem to attribute a lot to stature. In particular: [To keep up with their fellow so…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/15 01:33 AM
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A backpack with a hip belt is properly worn with weight on the hips and not on the shoulders. Women are built to carry weight on the hips. This article suggests a difference in leg muscle activity (which muscles are being activated) based on gender. However, this just seems like a matter of the body working efficiently within its parameters.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/15 11:53 PM
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Those positions include medic, Black Hawk pilot, geospatial engineer and paralegal specialist. So (a) create different requirements depending on the position, or (b) keep everything uniform? It's a tricky question because not all combat jobs are created equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/15 11:16 PM
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Both men and women perceive it as misogyny, which is an interesting conclusion. Also, It seems, then, that while men are socially rewarded by strongly endorsing BS, women could suffer social costs by strongly endorsing BS [because it makes them seem entitled]. which is an unsurprising yet interesting point.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/15 11:11 PM
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They were all ugly, intimidating, teeth missing, scarred up badasses. [...] And you want to put fucking women into this group of dirtbags? What about all the dirtbag women out there?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/15 10:49 PM
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Re: relationship length: 6 years. Definitely not the in the honeymoon stage.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/15 11:38 PM
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What aspects are you referring to? In particular, I don't see dread game working very well in a marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/15 09:29 PM
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Judging from your choice of words, I assume you think women are out to get men, that there is some sort of battle being waged.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/15 10:45 PM
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Isn't this antithetical to self-improvement? Would incentive not come from within?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/15 10:40 PM
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"Worse" is a relative term.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/15 10:34 PM
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Depends what you define as worse and what your priorities are.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/15 06:46 PM
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All women on some level believe in the idea of "female equality" or more commonly "female supremacy/special status" on some level. Jumping from "equality" to "supremacy"; they are not similar terms. The female imperative is ingrained in women's DNA. Source? (i.e. lol)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/15 06:36 PM
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Getting a text from your partner about how much they want to fuck and dirty talk through texts is foreplay. Jesus Christ, you know nothing about sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/15 02:02 AM
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Political correctness is taking caution not to offend people due to age, race, gender, etc. What does privacy have to do with this?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 12:21 AM
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I've had women-professional, progressive, modern women-tell me straight up "I would instantly lose all respect for a man if I saw him start to cry." I'm sure you have.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 12:05 AM
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Then the difference is situational. In the first, she was looking for sex. In the second, she was looking for more than sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 12:01 AM
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Could you provide an example of what PC has to do with BDSM?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/15 11:50 PM
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Married, no kids, and do not want kids in the future.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/15 11:43 PM
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But then there's the whole overpopulation thing...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 10:54 PM
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The financial costs of raising children is high. Couple that with a single income, and the financial security argument doesn't make a whole lot of sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 09:52 PM
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What I am getting from this post is that OP doesn't want r/TBP to be associated with PPD because TBP calls itself a satire sub. Am I missing something? Don't we have this argument every other week?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 09:33 PM
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"Stop trying to make fetch happen. It's not going to happen."
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/15 04:15 AM
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Blue Pill Woman. INTJ.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/15 04:12 AM
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What I mean by modern thinking is political correctness.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 10:19 PM
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Thanks. Maybe it's because I'm on mobile, but I don't see numbers in the chart. So the bars don't really mean much do me with a relative difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 09:58 PM
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That's funny because it's the same argument BP uses to explain why there is porn centered on rape / dom fantasies (an argument RP doesn't accept).
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 09:51 PM
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As evidenced by your username? :)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 09:45 PM
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Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 09:44 PM
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What RP principles did you wish you would have known before things went south?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 09:22 PM
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The main thing that TRP says is that sexual strategy is AMORAL. Meaning without morality, whether moral or immoral. It has nothing to do with it. And that is the only thing that is amoral. But then the original statement is partially false as "all social interactions" != "sexual strategy". And that is exactly the same thing that could be said of non-TRPers. Agreed. That's why I abstracted it to "groups" instead of TRP. If it doesn't sound 'right' as in, it doesn't have proper logic based on the …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 09:11 PM
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Because they want this to be true so bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 07:50 PM
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Lemme predict the answer: amorality.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 07:46 PM
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Treating an individual equally is one thing, but having limited experience with a few females and treating the whole gender like that is another. That's not equality, that's laziness.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 07:45 PM
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How is it fucked up to believe that all social interactions are a power struggle? It's amoral to say that all social interactions have a power struggle. It has nothing to do with ethics or morality. I think what OP was getting at was that it seems like an empty way to live. By your logic, is it amoral to say or believe anything? There are always verbal and nonverbal cues to look at when it comes to decision making. That is the thing a lot of non-TRPers keep missing. TRPers are shown what those c…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 07:41 PM
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Sometimes the best way to cope with ridiculousness is to mock it. TRP does not align itself with modern thinking, and there are some extremists in there, which makes the whole thing sound pretty silly at times.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 07:20 PM
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Still probably easier if your a woman. We've gotta account all the men who don't even make it into college due to their gender. It's hard to get into college without good grammar.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/15 10:59 PM
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Oedipus?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/15 08:26 PM
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Too true. People will find something to be miserable about.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/15 05:18 PM
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Ah but the reason that'd be rude is that in the real world, only one person can speak at any given time. Going into a church and talking would be interrupting the pastor. [...] So, the analogy doesn't work. Ok bad analogy; so you don't go into a roundtable Bible study sesh. You don't go to a Christian conference. Then I stand by my previous criticism, that if women must be shielded from this (whether we label it hostile dangerous) then they must be psychologically weak. If that's how you want to…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 11:29 PM
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"This internet discussion board isn't safe, because people are allowed to disagree with me. No, it's not safe, it's very very _______." Hostile. What does it mean to you? What is the opposite of "safe" in the way that you're using it (other than obviously "unsafe" which in this case would be tautological)? There can be criticisms -- and there should be -- of any ideology, and debate is great for evolving and concreting ideas. Not great, but necessary. But you don't go into a church as an atheist…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 10:59 PM
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I barely managed to catch myself from saying "go fuck yourself" just now, vaguely realizing it might be seen as impolite, rather than a deserved response to your nonsense criticism. How big of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 09:42 PM
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I'm realizing that "safe" to me means something different than what you interpret it as, and not coddling or babying. Connotation difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 09:40 PM
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I see what you're saying -- There can be "safety" but still debate and deep thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 07:41 PM
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Women literally seem to need every space they will exist in to perfectly pander to their sensibilities and be completely safe. If you haven't been a women you won't really get why a "safe space" is needed. But why not make everything as safe as possible for all peoples? And please don't think I'm talking about just reddit. Science, business, video games and reddit forums where they whine about periods. All of it needs to be censored and controlled airtight. Periods can get pretty serious. Especi…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 07:15 PM
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/r/AskTRP
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/15 11:25 PM
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I would teach her that my relationship with a woman has no baring how she could be with a man. What do you mean by this?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/15 01:31 AM
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If I give $1 to the red cross and tell you kids are starving in Africa, then have I all of a sudden become a sincere member of society fighting against starvation? No. But sincerity comes from within. Physically going to a third world country doesn't prove much either, only that you can afford a plane flight.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/15 05:33 AM
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Societal expectations is really vague. Would you mind elaborating? I was thinking of some examples... When a woman in politics is portrayed, there is always the inevitable focus on her looks, or her attitude, both of which have little to do with her job performance. Men do not get that same criticism (in this same way). I believe this discourages some women who seek to be managers, CEOs, etc. from doing so. These external pressures (what society is telling you), leads to internal doubt and self …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/15 05:28 AM
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I agree. It's difficult for people in general to care about a community outside their own. It's much easier to relate to what you know.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/15 01:37 AM
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So donations and spreading awareness don't count?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/15 01:36 AM
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I'm getting hung up on the word "oppression", which is too strong imo for first-world women. There are still disadvantages, however, mostly dealing with societal expectations. Having opportunities available doesn't necessarily translate to equality. Look at generations of people in the cycle of poverty.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/15 01:35 AM
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There are feminists in first world countries fighting for the equality of those in third world countries as well. Sexism (from both sides) is also very much alive, which is beyond what laws can provide in terms of privilege and opportunity. Feminism is still around because there are still improvements to be made.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/15 12:14 AM
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however, people classify anything from being asked on a date by someone they don't like, to being whistled at, or someone unwanted complementing their physical appearance as sexual assault. No they don't. Sexual assault can be very physically violent, and just as psychologically damaging. They're not the same, but there's a reason they're lumped together.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/15 11:05 PM
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That isn't practical for most people. Sex isn't a solo act, and it's in your best interest to please your partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/15 11:59 PM
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No. It's the way Reddit mocks anyone looking to seek validation from others in their group.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/15 12:15 AM
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Confirmation biassss! (/s)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/15 01:58 AM
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Why then, is she complaining? Because she doesn't get validation from her spouse? Or because she liked attention equally in we 20s, just not the so-called creepy kind?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/15 01:39 AM
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:(
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/14 06:33 PM
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Grooming your facial hair is not makeup. It is a form of modifying and emphasizing your looks. By your standards, it can be seen as manipulation. So can brushing your teeth to make them whiter. They are kids. Let them play. They're too little to understand female deception. The point I'm trying to make is that many people (adults) put on make up in order to play, unconcerned of the opposite sex. I'm not saying this is always the case, but deception 100% of the time is certainly not.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/14 12:11 AM
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More questions for you... What do you think about little kids playing with makeup or face paint? Extremely insecure. Feminine men. Don't deserve to be called men (unless they are actors, in which case makeup is necessary). Does this not also apply to men who groom their facial hair, whether it's shaving or trimming?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/14 12:05 AM
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Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/14 11:05 PM
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The ideal is to do what makes you happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/14 10:35 PM
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If a woman puts on make up, it applies to them. To clarify, all women who wear makeup are either insecure, or trying to increase their SMV, or both? Also, what do you think of men who wear makeup (I'm talking minimal concealing, not drag). Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Not necessarily through make up, but plenty of women try to trick men into marrying them, try to make them jealous, and manipulate them in other ways. While I completely disagree with you, what drives a woman to be more manipulati…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/14 09:31 PM
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Women and men both falsely advertise their wares, women moreso than men. Women doll themselves up with a shit ton of makeup because they're too inscure (and, realistically) too ugly to survive the SMP without so much makeup. They lie to men by inflating their looks. How does this apply to women who are not insecure or on the market? Men, most of whom are kind-natured and not TRP men, don't intentionally deceive and manipulate women. Are you saying that women intentionally deceive men? How is wea…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/14 08:22 PM
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TRP may try and take women off the pedestal, going as far as to bury them beneath it
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 12:33 AM
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I don't understand why you consider yourself blue bill when clearly the Red Pill has got this part right It's not about winning when it comes to healthy relationships. Common knowledge of equality/respect in relationships isn't pill-exclusive. Most BPers will agree with aspects that TRP preaches because it's nothing new.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 12:32 AM
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Blue pill here. Spartacus hit the nail on the head. How does this go against anything blue pill?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 12:23 AM
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Well, men were taught "women and children" first from like pre-school, so please don't blame us for doing it "just because you're female". Its not our fault, and its why the red pill exists. When something is ingrained from childhood, it can be difficult to disregard. Thoughts are hard to change, but actions aren't as much. So fine, it's not your fault for thinking a certain way (to an extent). But acting a certain way, yes. To eliminate shitty gender roles geared towards women. Almost sounds li…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 12:16 AM
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Women like to be treated equally. If you're going to hold the door open, I will say thank you. If you're doing it just because I am female, I honestly don't see the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/14 11:55 PM
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Decent examples; thank you. There's always hypocrisy somewhere. Other than penis size, do you see men body shamed in society?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/14 11:35 PM
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Then why did you respond?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/14 10:52 PM
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It seems to me like in western feminist societies (I'm fortunate not to live in one) people feel the need to "support" women in everything. I think it's just about supporting those who are considered minorities, or traditionally oppressed. It supports even such disgusting things as not shaving your legs - even though the only thing that "forces" women to do that is the fact that men rightfully consider women who don't do that as disgusting. Everyone has their own opinion. Being raised to think t…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/14 10:41 PM
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Lol what? It's not only men killing their partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/14 07:21 PM
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Just trying to clarify your statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 11:58 PM
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So then it's only socially progressive for straight males?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 10:09 PM
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Because it gives individuals more autonomy or what?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 09:21 PM
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I put the treadmill on a high incline and do about 2.5 - 3 mph for 30 minutes (I have a knee problem so I can't bike and the elliptical doesn't feel great). Then I do hip adduction & abduction, followed by bicep curls or a row machine (triceps workout?). I try and do yoga when I can, which isn't very often. And I miss doing Pilates for core strengthening.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/14 11:08 PM
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I do nothing. It's not up to me to tell the other person he is already in a relationship. Goes both ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/14 10:39 PM
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You got a pulmonary embolism from waist training??
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/14 10:34 PM
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Bp woman. Have not done this. Although I don't work out to achieve a certain look, I work out for the purposes of stamina and health. Idk if that makes a difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/14 10:34 PM
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No amount of RP or non-RP or whatever will make a person logical or not, you either are logical or you are not. I don't think this is what OP is saying. They want to know how to justify the statement that differences in gender imply differences in rationality.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/14 07:40 PM
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So, your response to the second part?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/14 07:17 PM
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because in truth it is women who are incapable of sticktoitiveness and commitment and WOMEN who seek to bail when things get rough. These two regimes of marriage reflect male and female nature. First of all, I do not know of any evidence that suggests women are incapable of commitment. Secondly, should we abolish marriage since it is not in "women's nature" to commit, in your opinion?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/14 07:06 PM
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What BP ultimately asks of men is to unilaterally disarm in a world where everyone is playing for themselves Disagree. Just hate the skeeziness of things like jealousy tactics. Working out and dressing well are fine (in fact they're great) but purposeful emotion manipulation is not cool. Edit: it's okay to retort instead of downvote.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/14 03:50 AM
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The women closest to me, mainly family, discouraged and tried to sabotage me every step of the way through my transformation. Why do you think this is? And are they still the same now?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/14 03:42 AM
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What do you consider "manipulation?" Because I think either the word is used negatively, or a negative word is sometimes being used for actions that are not truly devious. It my mind, it has a negative connotation. However... I tend to think of manipulation as a conscious or even unconscious use of covert actions to try to get what you want from a situation. Do you disagree with that definition, or think it is inherently wrong, morally speaking? I can agree with this. I was about to disagree wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/14 03:35 AM
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?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/14 03:21 AM
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Cat-calling exists, but it does not exist to the extent of anything that women or feminism want you to believe. I'm not sure if it's possible, but I'm going to need you to quantify this. Unless you are a woman, I'm not sure how you could comment on something you're not looking out for on a daily basis. A woman is not more unsafe on a given street than a man. Deserted or not. For almost any crime. She just feels more unsafe. Sure, but if she is getting stared at or cat-called, she probably feels …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/14 10:04 PM
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I would agree, although from what I understand Lena Dunham also documents instances when she was 17. With a 6 year age difference, it starts to get a little weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/14 06:00 PM
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Came because I wanted to hate TRP. Stayed because the opposition has had some interesting arguments that I did not previously consider.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/14 09:40 PM
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Do feminists actually think differently on this matter? Complaining just to get sympathy but not actually expecting anything to be done? I'm sure there is some of that; there always is. But I don't think feminists want this to continue just so they can complain and "get sympathy". We know what feminists are complaining about. What are feminists complaining for? You want to reach some people, but what is expected? Awareness is what's expected. With general awareness I think the hope is that thing…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/14 12:10 AM
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Ah, yes. The old "they did it first!" argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/14 04:03 PM
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Dread in that regard is simply the realization that your partner not being present is a real possibility and that your life would be worse without him or her I suppose I have always seen "dread game" in the context of actively doing something. So thanks for the link; it was something I had not considered.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/14 04:01 PM
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If you can argue that dread game is purposely doing something to make your partner feel insecure, jealous or dispensable; then couldn't it be argue that the higher value partner purposely doing nothing to address being in he role of the higher value partner is also dread? I suppose... Are they supposed to try and be of lesser value for the other? If any feelings of jealousy, insecurity or being dispensable arises, within reasonable expectations, would it be that person's responsibility to addres…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/14 09:37 PM
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Gotcha; so RP dread game is just a response to what women naturally do, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/14 07:50 PM
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What /u/powerkick is trying to say is that it would be interesting to have another study where both genders rate both genders. And probably from a bigger sample than people in the online dating world.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/14 07:42 PM
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You mean when a person is using tactics to make someone jealous?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/14 07:13 PM
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I suppose I do not understand what youre asking. Someone simply being jealous is not dread game. Purposefully making someone feel jealous / insecure is dread game.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/14 07:10 PM
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How is this dread game?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/14 07:04 PM
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So ... how is this dread game?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/14 06:54 PM
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Working on a novel? :) The subreddit is rife with success stories from men who claim they've gotten what they want out of their relationship. [...] It's not that I doubt what he's saying. I believe it. The problem is, what he's describing is emotional abuse. Now on this account I must disagree, because there's not enough data. The poster didn't mention, and TalShar isn't trying to find out, why a woman would tolerate such a situation. It couldn't be that she's happy with it, could it? It couldn’…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/14 06:33 PM
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Just being the more physically attractive partner is dread game. So every relationship is dread game? Because who is 100% equal physically to their partner?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/14 06:16 PM
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What if I told you, that the only reason I am so paranoid about making my way materially is because society preaches that everyone's a shallow Hal deep inside, money makes the world go round and 'bitchez love the power' so we really have no choice? I would tell you that you need to stop blaming society for your individual problems. Stop watching television and reading magazines. Don't hang out at clubs. We have a choice. I rounded up a sample of the quotes I've posted on Reddit and other forums …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/14 07:25 PM
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What I am frustrated by, is how she just got me to 'notice' when I feel insecure about something and that that is a natural thing in reships esp. dealing with your SO dealing with attractive members of the opposite sex (their preferred sex). There's always someone more attractive. Always. It is natural in relationships. But I am completely aware of this, I know why Supes makes me feel insecure, Ok... the question is do I take the self-improvement route (man up and become better/more Alpha or you…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/14 04:48 PM
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I'm not saying being a housewife is bad. If given the financial opportunity, would RPW become full time housewives, or does it depend on something else (or nothing)? Edit: sorry if I offended.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/14 11:32 PM
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I think RPW enjoy being housewives though. Whether that's for their own happiness or someone else's is a different question.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/14 11:13 PM
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Yes, let's Internet-prescribe ecstasy to someone with anxiety.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/14 11:03 PM
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Also if we go by AWALT, then it is a somewhat unconscious reaction to view it as something of a master-slave reship (the patient as the slave). In reship or M-F terms this is basically M-Sub F-Dom This seems like a lack of trust in other people, particularly women. Maybe you should seek out a male therapist who might make you feel more comfortable?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/14 10:59 PM
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Rhode Islanders have hamstered themselves into believing they are a state so much so that the modern America believes it as well. Wake up sheeple. Swallow the pill. It is not a state. Discuss!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/14 04:42 PM
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Thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/14 03:34 PM
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Like Django Reinhardt?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/14 01:19 AM
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Can you recommend some good video game soundtracks other than Final Fantasy?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/14 01:17 AM
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Blue. The blues: Bessie Smith, Son House, basically everything off the Anthology of American Folk Music, Doug Macleod, and swing/jazz stuff (the Duke). Alternative (?): The Pixies, Butthole Surfers, Violent Femmes, The Mars Volta, At the Drive-In, Blood Brothers Older Stuff: B-52s, Sisters of Mercy, Siouxsie & the Banshees, The Cure (Pornography), Joy Division, The Go-Gos, Bowie, Fleetwood Mac, Joni Mitchell, Boingo, The Smiths Indie/Folk: Conor Oberst / Bright Eyes, Bon Iver, Cat Power, M. Ward…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/14 01:12 AM
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Wow. I'm sorry that's what you think being BP or feminist is about. There are extremists everywhere. Being "anti-male and anti female responsibility" is extremism that I've never encountered.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/14 03:29 PM
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You're not trying to convince me of anything, you're just arguing because you don't like my opinion. A debate does not require anyone to convince somebody of something. That's why your arguments are nit-picky and not substantive -- you're just trying to undermine my arguments by any means necessary, like pointlessly nitpicking over how I phrased the issue of women's erotica, and not with the actual issue itself. I stuck to the main topic, as well as inquiring more about the literature issue. Sor…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/14 04:00 PM
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Oh whatever, you just don't want to admit describing it as "out of the blue" isn't remotely accurate. From the original TwoX post: Then without asking or anything, I'm not even sure how it happened which is where my "out of the blue" comment came from, which is accurate according to the story I read. Did I suggest it should? Could you point out to me where I said that? Where I drew the conclusion that you took women's erotica to show what turns women on: [Asking] also doesn't seem sexy. I've rea…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/14 10:28 PM
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Also, if they kicked out everyone who drank underage and did drugs, they would lose a lot of money.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/14 09:29 PM
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I'm not saying it gives zero insight, but it shouldn't be taken for gospel. As I said somewhere else, it's extremely presumptuous to assume they were just lying there half naked.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/14 09:14 PM
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Yeah I'm interested to see if this gets deleted.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/14 08:17 PM
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some aged infants can't handle adult situations. I take aged infants more seriously when they use their big adult words... you fucking muppets.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/14 08:04 PM
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Im not sure erotica == what women want. But that's another debate. If you're blowing a guy Putting aside whether or not all details were given, the story didn't mention anything about an ongoing sexual act, even kissing. It just happened out of the blue.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/14 07:58 PM
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TIL it's impossible to spoon with clothes on. I was saying that OP never implied that they were just laying there naked. It's not that hard to stick hands down pants, and even easier with a skirt on. The point is, you were jumping to conclusions.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/14 07:53 PM
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Wow.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/14 05:12 PM
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would think that the law (I haven't read the details) would mean last week'a consent does not imply today's consent, for example, but where do you draw the line? Good points.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/14 05:10 PM
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What is the proper way for a man to ask to stick his finger in your vagina? I'll start with the not-proper way: no kissing or talk of sex, just spooning leading to digital penetration. You can always ask "hey, can I finger you?". Doesn't seem that hard to do... What would be the proper way for a woman to ask a man to stick a finger in his ass? Or should I just assume it's okay and go with it?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/14 05:07 PM
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In the twox thread, she froze up after he started fingering her. That's what gets me. Was she supposed to freeze up before it happened? They're spooning, at least half naked. OP never said anything about being naked or half-naked, whatever that means.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/14 05:00 PM
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Baaaaaah.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/14 03:55 PM
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I didn't say you did this. I was commenting on your putdown of female-oriented subs.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/14 08:23 PM
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it's instant belief and yo go girl advice and cheerless and validation Like RPW? Anyway, how would you answer OP's questions?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/14 08:07 PM
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I agree with your statement, but the woman never verbally said no. She never made it directly clear that she didn't consent. In addition, she did not even resist, and she herself states that it was not violent. Although this is the most direct, she could have been thinking wtf is going on and been so shocked that she froze up. So, she didn't affirmatively give consent, but I don't see how its unreasonable for the boyfriend to assume that she did (because she never indicated a lack of consent). Y…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/14 07:41 PM
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Is this example really rape? If it happened according to the way she said it did, then yes. I would define it as such. [time] From my experience, I believe someone equally whether it happened a week ago or ten years ago. The brain has a way of rationalizing things when someone takes non-consensual control of your body, trying to make it all seem okay. An hour, a week, or even years later, you might be able to process what actually happened. crying rape Please don't use this phrase as you are imp…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/14 07:09 PM
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Being the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/14 03:12 PM
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I agree that having a competent, effective police force is the goal we are trying to achieve. If those positions require a certain level of physical [strength, endurance, etc.], then that's it. One test for all applicants. If they were just allowing women who couldn't meet the physical standards into administrative positions or other roles with no chance that physicality would become an issue, that might be a more effective policy. But my understanding is that is not the case with these reforms.…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/14 12:03 AM
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But feminists do nothing to increase jail time for criminal females. A good point. Should criminal females have increased jail times to match criminal males? Or should jail times be decreased to match females? I don't know of a law that says female should have decreased jail time, though. I suspect it is the judges who have their biases that leads to this. Oh and male genital mutilation. Another good point. I personally disagree with non-consensual mutilation, and am amazed how it is not brought…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/14 10:31 PM
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Do you think your sexism is justified, or unjustified but doesn't matter?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/14 08:38 PM
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what I believe women are more wretched morally Can you clarify this, or give examples of what you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/14 08:32 PM
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I guess I should copy and paste another comment of mine to be a little more specific about what I thought we were debating. Its equality under the law. Not "human males are equal to human females", in regards to being the same. Do you believe that's the definition most feminists are operating under? yes In regards to men and women not being equal as in sameness, that's the definition they are operating under.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/14 02:23 PM
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Good question. We've come a long way in the US to making people equal under the law, and the only exceptions I can think of are female-benefitting as you mentioned. To me those still lie under the gender inequality umbrella and should be made equal. However, there are still other countries where it can be greatly improved.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/14 02:20 PM
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Its equality under the law. Not "human males are equal to human females", in regards to being the same. Do you believe that's the definition most feminists are operating under? yes In regards to men and women not being equal as in sameness, that's the definition they are operating under.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/14 02:16 PM
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You can pass a law all you want and people will still not follow it. Affirmative action in particular was designed to combat racism in the workplace. People will still find a way to discriminate. I think it was a great temporary solution to a large problem. Although I'm not sure what use it has in today's world (speaking as an American anyway).
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/14 04:47 AM
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Because there's more to it than the law, and there's more to it than just thinking about yourself ("civilized" countries).
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/14 04:42 AM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/14 03:02 AM
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Maybe I should have chosen different words. Supposing lying is immoral, it is an immoral situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/14 12:09 AM
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She should not be shocked and appalled if there are consequences if a man vetting her as a wife dumps her if he finds out the truth. If a man thinks her lying is bad, then he thinks her lying is immoral. Yes, she can do this, sure. Yes, it is an amoral sexual strategy no more or less than anything TRP promotes. Immoral then, not amoral.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/14 09:33 PM
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What do you call the desire to optimize your SMV (in one way by having many partners) in conjunction with wanting to settle down with someone with a low partner count ? I find this to be a recurring theme, or am I off base? That's what I was thinking of in using the word "fair".
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/14 09:20 PM
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I think TRP is about optimizing your desires and wants as a man in a world that is not fair. Growing up and being told to "be yourself" is something that hasn't fully worked for them. They seek to figure out why, and to better their situation given some not too great initial parameters. Edit: Blue Pill woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/14 05:15 PM
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This is the answer. Generalizing helps us to understand a system better. If that generalization does not work, it is refined or tossed out.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/14 09:46 PM
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??? That's not what you seemed to be arguing the whole time ...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/14 04:52 AM
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You seem to be making a point that my question if turned to other races is somehow icky, There are either innovative geniuses in a given group in high frequency or there aren't, I'm not trying to MAKE it be that way I just mean to suggest that there is more to do with it than gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/14 02:01 AM
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Not weird, congratulations. But why do female jazz singers not count? Ella Fitzgerald was a great improvisational singer (scat). Anywho, name a Hispanic genius. Aside from jazz, plenty of genius to be had in other fields (Ada Lovelace in the past, Maryam Mirzakhani in the present).
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/14 01:49 AM
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Ok, name a black genius or hispanic genius. You're setting your own definition of the word here.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/14 01:35 AM
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Gotcha. Unfortunately, I completely agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/14 12:41 AM
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I'm inclined to agree with the first one, not familiar with the second, and by the third, you mean divorce? Sorry. I can't keep up with all the acronyms.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/14 12:15 AM
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Which laws are you referring to?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/14 11:54 PM
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Why is that a ridiculous desire? It's a strong cross-cultural preference. Maybe it's extremely rare but it's not inherently crazy. It seems arbitrary to me, but like I said, very subjective. So here's my counter-analogy [...] Touché! I don't see the current world like that, but I'm not going to argue that it's what the near future might hold -- for both men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/14 09:43 PM
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Thanks for the response. If some of your expectations for a LTR are totally unmatchable in today's world, maybe the answer isn't to lower your expectations but to drop the pursuit of a LTR entirely. Fair enough. Why take it for granted that everyone will simply move their goal posts for LTR-acceptability instead of rejecting the whole idea entirely? I do not reject the idea entirely, I question whether the goal posts are on the grid or off in a completely different game. Plenty of guys, once the…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/14 09:15 PM
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First of all, the post made me hungry. I also don't like being compared to a cut of meat, but I understand the point of the post. Secondly, I agree that people shouldn't be told what they are allowed to like. However, if you are making a beef stew, it seems a little over the top to want the most expensive cut of meat, when the rump will do, or any less expensive cut. You are going to be cooking it for such a long time, that any meat will be tender when it is consumed. Saying that you want a 21-y…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/14 06:20 PM
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The dictionary defines words to mean very certain things. These meanings might change depending on the context. When you say something like "all women are x" when you mean "most women are x" (where x is a trait that has been subjectively observed), you are not using the true definition of the word "all". It is worth arguing the semantics in order to have TRP better define their system so we can begin to argue the other more main points as well. It's not being picky for no reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/14 05:04 AM
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I guess my comment was more of a question then because that term is not well defined.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/14 07:06 PM
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The BP sub was made to mock TRP. That doesn't mean that every single one of its users believe everything antithetical to TRP. Just because bad boys are more attractive at first doesn't mean they're more datable or that all women will flock to them like bugs to a light.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/14 07:00 PM
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Do you mean to say Western women? Because all women alive are modern women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/14 06:53 PM
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You just went from A to B to Z there. Modern woman in a nutshell?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/14 06:49 PM
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I (not RP) care about gender equality, men's rights, and women's rights. However, I can't stand the MRA sub. It seems a lot more finger pointing than /r/feminism, which I find to have some more self-improvement type articles.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/14 06:38 PM
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Source? Examples? Anecdotes?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/14 05:39 PM
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Men are absolutely conditioned to be less emotional than women. Words are important here. I would change it to "conditioned to show less emotion." We stand to lose social standing among our peers when we don't deal with problems on our own. Women are free to feel whatever they like because society coddles women. They are the leisure class. Men are just as capable of emotion as women, but nobody will support them. Im not sure about "leisure class", but I'm not going to disagree with this. There a…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/14 05:34 PM
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Everyone's emotional. But that is by the same thing as not being rational. It's choosing how to act that makes you a rational or emotional person. Not RP, btw, but I hardly see a gender difference here. It's one of the RP things I disagree with.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/14 05:18 PM
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That's really presumptuous of you. You probably don't believe me, but I didn't downvote you...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/14 12:23 AM
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It is currently a TBP circlejerk but as a TRP I will smack them. I think the mods have said multiple times that this isn't true, and that the deleted comments come equally from both sides. Unenforceable by the mods. It's an eye for an eye thing for me. You downvote me I downvote your whole fucking history. How do you know if a particular person downvoted you?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/14 09:08 PM
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Vegemite. shudder
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/14 04:08 PM
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I encounter rude men approximately once a month in the form of catcalling. I hate catcalling because it makes me uncomfortable and I feel unsafe. Do I apply this logic to all men I encounter? Certainly not. However, I have been groped by random (male) strangers 3 times in my life, so I am on edge constantly when walking alone. Edit: less civil times? No. I think our current society has some pretty huge flaws, but civility seems to be much better as I think the current generations have greater to…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/14 08:46 PM
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I completely agree with you, just nitpicking at the word "proof"! Signed, a math major :)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/14 08:25 PM
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Every time a moron comes up with "correlation does not imply causation" I want to smack him because he is brain dead. Mathematics comes up with this, not some moron. Not that correlations are not useful, but they should be carefully examined. Yes, the theory is important, but the sources matter. And in the social sciences, the error bounds are enormous.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/14 07:30 PM
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In fairness, it's not the literal definition of proof (see mathematics for actual proofs). It is more along the lines of supporting a theory. We can strongly support theories. And aren't studies better supporting evidence than anecdotes? Yes, and multiple studies are better. In the social sciences, especially when surveys are involved, we should take them all with a grain (or two) of salt.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/14 07:26 PM
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Do you think it is morally wrong to view them? Why or why not? I'm leaning towards the morally wrong viewpoint. Privacy has been breached, and looking at the pictures would contribute to this breach of privacy in my opinion. Whose fault is it? The celebrities who took the pictures? Or the man who leaked them? It is the person who hacked them and the person who leaked them. I don't know enough about the story to know if that is the same person. I think Apple should beef up its security, but I don…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/14 07:13 PM
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I feel equally sorry for both Jennifer Lawrence and Kate Upton. Just because Kate is a model doesn't mean that she should be shown less empathy for the same breach of privacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/14 07:06 PM
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I would argue that body builders don't do what they do for the SMV.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/14 05:50 AM
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also do you happen to have results of a recent STI test handy? As an American, I love having an STI. (Love: it's what makes a Subaru, a Subaru. :) )
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/14 08:31 PM
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Lol gotcha. Sorry but it's hard to tell when people are being sarcastic in this sub!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/14 09:16 PM
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And how am I doing that?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/14 09:12 PM
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harm and care: 3.3 fairness and reciprocity: 3.8 loyalty: 2 authority and respect: 2.8 purity and sanctity: 1.3 Not sure what the scale is or what the scores mean, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/14 08:59 PM
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You are not being an ass at all -- I am probably shit with a knife. I know how to hold it with a firm grip so I don't just drop it in the fear of the moment, but you got me thinking that I should really take a class.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/14 08:01 PM
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Yeah, I know. But I live in California and it's tough to legally own a gun. It is in my future plans, though. Even if I had a handgun, I would need to practice with it all the time to be good/accurate at shooting it. So tough to actually hit something.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/14 06:40 PM
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Some people just love to complain about things...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/14 06:23 PM
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As a feminist, this is embarrassing. Edit: I carry a knife on me when I am walking. I especially carry one at night when I am alone. I don't want to carry one, though. It is cumbersome and I don't want to be thinking about anyone who might assault me. I like to see the good in people. However, if I have to carry a knife, mace, or a gun on me, I will.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/14 05:50 PM
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The point is not that women can't be engineers. I know a few capable ones. Its that there seems to be a gender difference in the way that women think that is aligned with what RP predicts in almost a clichéd way. I didn't mean to imply this. Just saying that you, as a man, scored differently on the systems part of the test than you expected, but it doesn't mean that you're not a good engineer. RP routinely makes claims that women and men think differently. And prioritize different things. In a w…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/14 05:41 PM
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As you said in another comment in this thread: Your Systemizing Quotient is 41. Baron-Cohen (2003) suggests that this means "you have an average ability for analysing and exploring a system". I hate being average in the second thing though... I'm supposed to be an engineer :( It doesn't mean that you actually have an average ability for analyzing a system. Engineering is about making things work in the end, and not becoming too bogged down in the details. Questions like "I always wonder about th…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/14 04:46 PM
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31/36. Expecting much lower
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/14 02:15 PM
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Thanks for that other test. I was really surprised at my score on that one, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/14 04:32 AM
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Your Empathizing Quotient is 54. Baron-Cohen (2003) suggests that this means "you have an above average ability for understanding how other people feel and responding appropriately. You know how to treat people with care and sensitivity". Your Systemizing Quotient is 59. Baron-Cohen (2003) suggests that this means "you have an above average ability for analysing and exploring a system". I would have suspected that the EQ score would be lower than average...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/14 04:24 AM
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Stereotypes can be taken as insulting but are based on a truth, your trp stereotype is based on what you want to see. Truth: there are countless posts on TRP that are demeaning towards women. Stereotype: all RPers are misogynists.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/14 04:39 PM
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So what do you mean then by "there's no such thing as something that's amoral"?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/14 01:36 AM
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stereotypes are there for a reason. Counter argument: racism. Purporting stereotypes is not encouraging to the betterment of society.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/14 01:07 AM
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Instead of a "morals are relative to the individual" premise, a "morals are relative to a society" premise. For example, human sacrifice has been acceptable in some societies, but is not acceptable in today's Western societies.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/14 12:22 AM
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So you're saying TRP is a hate group. I think you read a little too far into that statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/14 05:55 PM
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How about immoral according to the current society? I think we can say that things like murder and lying are immoral (obviously with exceptions).
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/14 05:52 PM
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If you logically analyze you + your SO's emotions and actions whilst in a relationship, you will 100% start to see red pill in effect. So everything is red pill? Well that's certainly convenient. If you find any average, blue pill relationship past the fuck each other senseless stage that has no issues or secrets, I will personally polish your balls. Every relationship has issues. But other than that, get out the polish.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/14 05:40 PM
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You won't find anything because there's no agenda over there other than to mock TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/14 05:11 PM
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Lol I'm not. I truly hope it works out for you, no sarcasm.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/14 09:38 PM
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Are you referring to war and putting women and children first?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/14 09:36 PM
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Stay classy :)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/14 09:35 PM
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To be fair, an_absolute_rose used the word "serve". But if I understand you correctly, it is wanting sometime to devote themselves to you as much as you devote yourself to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/14 09:28 PM
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What's stopping you?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/14 08:42 PM
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But it's natural!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/14 09:32 PM
2

Yeah probably. But do you have any thoughts on the content?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/14 11:46 PM
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Why three? Additionally, I would have to say that people can be "slutty" in more ways than just sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/14 10:59 PM
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She doesn't have a lot of female friends because women tend to view her as a competitor. How do you know this and how would she be a competitor? What for?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/14 10:48 PM
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So you want somebody to be completely dependent on you?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/14 10:38 PM
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I'm not into promiscuity, but I think we should stop putting virgins on pedestals. A good sex education is a good thing in my opinion, and if it means there are less virgins, then so be it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/14 05:01 PM
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When TRP or TBP is cornered with being wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/14 07:14 PM
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+1 Buffy was beat up a bunch of times, by both males and females, along with other female characters.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/14 06:44 PM
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To me this issue boils down to 3 possible explanations that are not mutually exclusive. These seem extremely likely, can't disagree with you there.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/14 07:03 PM
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By this logic, casual sex had never existed before the feminist movement.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/14 06:56 PM
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It is, but it doesn't negate it's importance. I agree. But I'm not sure what your argument is. What does it have to do with marriage, feminism, and divorce? http://www.reddit.com/r/PunchingMorpheus/comments/2acmoe/studies_women_are_attracted_to_dark_triad_traits/ "there doesn't seem to be anything here..." If hookup culture didn't exist and sex was incentivized by being a productive member of society, you'll see more productive men. So you think we should use the promise of sex as an incentive t…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/14 06:45 PM
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You're kind of agreeing with me here. Is that okay? :) Sure. But initial attraction is very different between men and women. Initial attraction? Like first sight? I would think that it's completely superficial. I have studies that show women are more attracted to dark triad traits (psychopathy, narcissism, machiavellianism), do you want me to give those to you? Yes. You have no idea what men will do for pussy. Again, what does being a good member of society have to do with marriage? No it doesn'…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/14 06:20 PM
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The root cause of this problem is, of course, feminism. Feminists have done a great job of destroying gender roles for women (and also destroying marriage/committed relationships in the process), but they've done jack shit for gender roles and men. This is why i'm personally insulted when feminists say, 'oh we're taking care of that already, we don't need an MRM!' - no you're not, and you're not fooling anyone anymore. Not that it matters, because even if gender roles for men were destroyed, you…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/14 06:01 PM
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I definitely think that the author of the comic attributes this to the media -- not that it also has something to do with self-image. Walking past the woman in the first "scene" seems to be the end result of what society has told the protagonist. i agree that the crowd of people in the second scene is something that she has likely made up in her head. But the story goes on: walking past the advertisements of skinny models, listening to the TV, and listening to the radio further emphasizes the fa…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/14 04:54 AM
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I'm just not sure why age and sex, and especially race, matter to a conversation on PPD. As another user said, we already have flair. Would you just like to see flair more of a requirement than an option??
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/14 11:10 PM
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statistically We're not taking polls here. It seems like this would be a great way to stereotype someone and it would discourage productive debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/14 10:49 PM
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I think this is a great, neutral description. Do you think something should be said about RPW, or have it as a third category (or nothing)?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/14 10:48 PM
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My assessment of the relationship dynamics at play? Sounds like a crazy chick and a dude who doesn't care that she's crazy because he gets to fuck her in the end. Just craziness and unstable people all over the place. I've never met a single person like this in my life. If that's what RP sees all the time, then I get their message. Sounds like they are perfect for each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/14 10:39 PM
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Totally agree. It seems like a significant discrepancy in how we treat weight wrt gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/14 08:48 PM
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I agree that we shouldn't glorify being overweight, but I also don't think that we should focus solely on our looks before all other things. Being 10 lbs overweight is not going to adversely affect your health if you put other things (like an education) first. Also, you seem to be focusing on the images in the comic rather than the actual message of the comic.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/14 07:42 PM
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Ask the unmarried 30+ year old women who rode the cock carousel. Let's stick with this thought... The thing i forgot to mention is that the 2 people in question are heavily religious and they met when they were teens and were each other's firsts. So Christine has the urge to see what she missed out on. In this case, it's a man about 6 points higher than her on the looks scale. Wait, I thought this was the ideal RPW. So if she rode the cock carousel, then she would have a better idea of what she …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/14 07:00 PM
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The comic is not about being overweight, it's about perceiving oneself as overweight due to the media'a emphasis on Twiggy-type models and focus on a woman's worth being based on her looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/14 06:29 PM
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So you think a reality show reflects reality?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/14 06:18 PM
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Not RP, but I think it paints an accurate picture, although I would be interested in hearing from a RPW. It is a social problem worth addressing, and I think we are addressing it, but also to the point where we shame really thin girls. Edit: also, I have not seen a male-equivalent of this. If a man has some weight on him, I think we are always quick to say he's overweight. So there's that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/14 05:16 PM
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I'm glad you've never heard any of these phrases uttered, but they do happen. It is not a manufactured problem. If it were, what would be the point?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/14 05:09 PM
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These women had to stay married because it was uncommon to have a job, especially is you already have children (actually, what century are we talking about?). Without a job, you can't support yourself. Due to societal customs, if you were unhappy in your marriage, you parents would likely tell you to suck it up and be a better wife (and/or husband).
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/14 10:10 PM
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TL;DR: your example is a good example of something feminists typically do not support. That being said, let me say why feminists typically don't condone these things… Not putting your family life first while in your twenties, while you have the looks to get a great husband, I'll give you that initial attraction is important, but really? A great husband doesn't have anything to do with looks. Either way, there are plenty of hot 30 year olds and 40 year olds, male or female. and the patience to ra…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/14 03:20 AM
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I had a response typed out then my phone crashed. Will respond later. But: TL;DR: your example is a good example of something feminists typically do not support.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/14 05:14 PM
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... From the 1800s.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/14 04:51 PM
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I see what you mean. But could you give me an example of what you mean by an anti-standard wrt feminism?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/14 03:54 PM
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"Traditionalism is always better": this is a subjective argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/14 03:33 PM
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Okay, overtly support manipulation
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/14 03:29 PM
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Give me an example of an anti-standard. Don't use stay-at-home parents because an aspect of feminism is about choosing what's right for yourself, regardless of the traditionality or non-traditionality of your choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/14 02:35 PM
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do college pamflets count? Show me a college pamphlet that says this verbatim. The information is talking about protecting yourself from rape, which does require you to be on guard especially in clubs and at parties. ACtually that is precisely what a good feminist has to do, all the empowerment none of the comitment. Do you know anything about feminism?? "how to get a guy in x days" Fair enough, but not "how to overtly manipulate him to bend to your will."
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/14 02:31 PM
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*pamfletz
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/14 02:27 PM
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Samesies. Cheap entertainment.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/14 11:34 PM
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They are both offensive. Cosmo makes men out to be one-dimensional, which is stupid. But I've never heard of Cosmo articles such as: "all men are rapists", "find em, fuck em, flee", "how to manipulate your guy in seven days", or "marriage: shackle him down for good". Cosmo articles are not about hate. In the end, they're bad, but not the same as what's preached on TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/14 09:38 PM
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Which right-wing ideas are you referring to?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/14 04:21 PM
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In general, physical strength and assertiveness. Also, a lot of men I've known are very impulsive, which basically means that they use emotion to guide many of their decisions. For example: "I have to have this", so they go out and buy it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/14 04:19 PM
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Relationships are much harder to get hurt in if you are approaching them from a redpill angle. Can you expand on this?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/14 04:13 PM
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I noticed you copy-and-pasted your TBP submission. So thanks for the wall of text again. This needs a TL;DR followed by something we can debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/14 10:03 PM
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Do I believe TRP is dangerous in real life? I believe it can be. When the extremists aren't silenced, but are encouraged, it is scary to me to think that those types of people actually exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/14 04:07 PM
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Thanks for the response. How do you feel about violence-ridden movies these day being pg-13 instead of R? Good, bad, neither? I'm thinking of the newest Robocop movie. A lot of violent implications, not necessarily blood and guts.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/14 08:04 PM
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For the sake of argument, how can hypergamy be wrong if it's about trying to better your situation?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/14 06:32 PM
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In what ways has it been pushed under the rug?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/14 06:11 PM
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Like, "Are you one of the angry ones?" Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/14 03:08 AM
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You said many of the subscribers are angry and may not represent TRP at its core. How are non-TRPers supposed to differentiate the two? I think questions regarding their posts are legitimate, if only to separate that person's posts from TRP philosophy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/14 11:54 PM
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So passive dread is then directly related to self-improvement? I was under the impression that "dread game" was the active type that you describe. Thanks for distinguishing the two. Edit: in your opinion, is there ever a good time to use active dread?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/14 07:29 PM
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Stop generalizing and do try to contribute to the conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/14 07:19 PM
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Very interesting. I think this would be a great one!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/14 03:50 PM
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Great copout. Keep up the good work.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/14 07:58 PM
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I think that your motivation here was dislike for TRP Better stop it with those feeelings. My motivation was not dislike for TRP, it was to point out the Training Women Like Dogs thread and how we shouldn't treat anyone with this analogy, but instead with equality. My piece is hypocritical only in title: trying to be sarcastic about the other thread. If you read the whole thing, you might see that I suggested treating each other equally, not that we should train men like dogs. I don't disagree t…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/14 07:46 PM
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I am suggesting not tolerating these types of comments. Let's fill the mainstream media with comments on how this is wrong and manipulative. With articles online, this is a lot easier to do. So, yeah: aim big.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/14 07:30 PM
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some women's thing lol. Bad example, but I see what you're saying. At its core, TRP is about sexual strategy. But there is also talk of other things, which is where the debate comes in. I don't debate solely to prove somebody wrong. I am genuinely interested in others' opinions. As far as sex goes, there are two players in the game. I just find it odd that you wouldn't want the other gender's thoughts on the matter so as to gain some insight you might have missed. Now I'm really confused as to t…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/14 07:26 PM
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"A celebration of /u/steelpuppy". Perfect name.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/14 07:03 PM
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But this is a debate sub. It would benefit you to obtain a different opinion, which is why I assume you're here?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/14 07:01 PM
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I've trained you well! http://animalfarmfoundation.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/im-a-good-dog-2.jpg
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/14 06:52 PM
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The thing about this argument is it will always fail to convince because people who buy into this stuff assume that women already are doing this to them, they're only trying to "even the score" and do it first.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/14 06:44 PM
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I don't think it's "awful"; like I said, I believe it to have many merits. I just don't find its values, and especially its more colorful users, to represent things how they are. I don't see any relationships work the way TRP claims they do. But I still enjoy a good debate from time to time and this sub has been enlightening. But you can disregard me because of my feelings. Having a "good contribution" and something "useful to offer" are entirely based on feelings, though. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/14 06:37 PM
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http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lv45cimRhT1qci0cso2_500.gif I see glimmers of truth in TRP and how it can be used as self-improvement. Hell, I support the thing in theory. In practice, it appears to be mostly filled with hateful comments. I don't see it as a "winning" thing, which is where I find TRP to be very black-and-white.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/14 06:05 PM
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I'm suggesting that men or women shouldn't do this at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/14 05:45 PM
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I find it odd that there isn't a different analogy to come up with that doesn't have to do with something being lesser than or submissive. You might have great intentions, but using this analogy is offensive. If I flipped it around and said the same thing about a man, RPers would probably call this sort of "training" a shit test and I would be some terrible feminazi.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/14 03:18 PM
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You have "intellectually destroyed" me, so I guess I have no thoughts on the matter :)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/14 08:46 AM
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Gotcha. Thanks for the clarification!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/14 04:52 PM
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Honestly, I can see good intentions behind these points, but the execution looks like a recipe for failure. One particular thing I had a problem with: it's her instinct to do that, nature has designed her this way and she just can't say no. We can, and we should. We are all humans, capable of rational thought. We say "no" to our instincts all the time. Yet I've seen more than a few RPers say something to this effect; it just doesn't make any sense to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/14 04:17 PM
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Showing a lot of disappointment, which is the most powerful tool of motivation, everything I am today is because I wanted to gain approval from my always disappointed father. I understand what you're saying, but I think there is a distinct difference between constant disappointment, appropriate scolding and praise, and unconditional coddling. It's a mother's job to be kind, loving and forgiving, and a father's job to be strict, rational and figurative. Our job is harder, and much more important …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/14 04:11 PM
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Nearly everything worth inventing of note was invented by a man, men dominate every aspect of science, art, literature, you name it. I think this has more to do with society and opportunity other than anything else. Most of the great scientists also came from higher socioeconomic status, but I wouldn't say that rich people are inherently smarter than poor people.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/14 03:10 AM
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Would you not apply that same logic to anyone (regardless of gender) whose IQ falls below a certain number?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/14 12:09 AM
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Thanks for giving some examples. Does RP think that these feminists are overall pretty representative of modern feminism? (Not sure if you're RP or not, so to anyone who will answer)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/14 12:05 AM
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Just to be clear, you disagree with the concept of gender equality as in equal opportunity? Or do you disagree with equality in the we-are-exactly-the-same sense? Or both (or something else)?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/14 11:58 PM
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What is it you dislike about feminism/feminists?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/14 11:44 PM
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I would still be creeped out by a relationship (homosexual or heterosexual) where the age difference is too much. Just seems odd to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/14 01:22 AM
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Interesting read. Thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/14 01:42 AM
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Do you have a source for this? (Not trying to be an a-hole, just wondering how common it actually is)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/14 11:54 PM
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do women's sexual fantasies commonly involve acts that they despise or fear? Not sure, I can't speak for all women. Mine sure don't. But if I could generalize, I think women enjoy being dominated by men, which is totally different than a rape fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/14 11:48 PM
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There is (normally, I hope) consent to role-playing in said fantasy. Perhaps you mean that the fantasy revolves around non-consent? Edit: just not sure what point you're trying to make.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/14 11:23 PM
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Ravishment is a rape fantasy. And what do you mean it's not part of either term's definition? You asked OP what it meant to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/14 11:12 PM
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If the normal tone is quick-and-dirty, why obfuscate the message in the first place? From the mod's replies, it seems as if people were supposed to interpret it in a different way. This strikes me as being extremely indirect, which seems counterintuitive. However, not being RP, I'm not sure if this is the way the sub usually works?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/14 09:57 PM
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Do you think your opinion is the majority of other RPers, minority, or somewhere in between? I noticed a lot of dissent, but also a lot of "yes sir" agreement.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/14 09:52 PM
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I think the person who wrote "amen" did that, although I did notice the inconsistency.
/r/MensRights24/07/14 09:26 PM
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I enjoy its ridiculousness.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/14 07:23 PM
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You never fail to make me laugh.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/14 07:16 PM
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Yes, I think it would be very effective when coupled with verbal communication.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/14 06:21 PM
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Not assuming anything, just responding to Rage47's comment that communicating would be ineffective in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/14 06:12 PM
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Ok, so she felt threatened for her job. That still does not make this a gender issue.
/r/MensRights24/07/14 04:47 PM
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Then she needs to work on her self confidence. He can potentially help her, but in the end it's her responsibility. To not communicate at all does not solve any problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/14 02:36 PM
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Airport staff are trained to be afraid of anyone who gets upset because they could pose a threat of some sort. Yes, she took it too far, but saying this was because he was male is just looking for something that isn't there.
/r/MensRights24/07/14 02:33 PM
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I'm not "team woman", I'm just "team logic and reason". I recently saw someone get kicked off a SW flight for complaining to another customer that they wanted to sit in a certain seat and then throwing a fit when they couldn't. Was there a real threat to everyone's lives? Probably not. But the sheriffs came and escorted them off anyway.
/r/MensRights24/07/14 02:29 PM
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If we take it at face value, this is an example of being afraid of terrorism and having to deal with shitty customers all day. This is not even close to being a gender issue. You are just looking at everything through MRM-tinted glasses. Feeling threatened does not imply feeling threatened because he is male.
/r/MensRights24/07/14 06:24 AM
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Well it works in my marriage. I'd like to think we aren't that special, but maybe it is wishful thinking. I'm sorry the people you've encountered don't work like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/14 09:39 PM
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If I were in his shoes, I would communicate with her on the lines of exhibit B. We don't know the whole story of course, but there are effective ways of communicating which get the point across without being narcissistic (exhibit a). I don't think the "dread game" works in a relationship where people value their self worth. It's probably great for immature people and works for those quick to jealousy, but I don't think it would be beneficial in any way for a long term relationship such as a marr…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/14 09:18 PM
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I have no response... Just... lol. If it works for you, keep it up I guess. Edit: what is the SOS?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/14 09:02 PM
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Let's look at the differences in communication. Exhibit A: "You haven't wanted to fuck me in awhile and it pisses me off." Exhibit B: "I've noticed that the last x times I've tried to initiate sex, you haven't wanted it. Is there anything stressing you out more than normal, or is my approach wrong?" Communication.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/14 08:22 PM
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He went about this in a cowardly way by sending her an email when she's going away for a few days. He won't have to face her in person right after this "confrontation". Of course, I would be interested in hearing his side of things...
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/14 06:54 PM
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I don't find it surprising, but I also don't think it confirms or denies TRP values. Some comments are about the arrogant type, some are about homelessness, and others are about nerds (we can probably classify this as beta?).
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/14 06:06 PM
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Was just about to say this.
/r/MensRights04/07/14 03:53 PM
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Back to the statement "if the administration is going to do this" (key word "if"). I'm not supporting teach-not-to-rape campaigns, so I'm not sure where you got that from… You seem to be extrapolating a lot from my comments. This is not the feminazi you are looking for. I also don't believe that if someone's feelings are hurt that means they've been harassed, but it doesn't hurt to have a reminder of things that are harmful to others (whether intentional or not). I'm not saying a reminder of som…
/r/MensRights02/07/14 06:13 AM
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I'm talking about more than rape, which I didn't exactly spell out. I'm talking about sexual harassment and unwanted sexual activity, which can be and is committed by and against both genders.
/r/MensRights30/06/14 07:55 PM
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Agreed.
/r/MensRights30/06/14 02:43 PM
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I'm not sure to be honest. I remember being in (gender divided) sex ed and people not asking questions at all. But that was a religious school, so maybe we were just extra scared lol. Perhaps separate sessions along with a coed session? Out of curiosity, do you think there should be no coed education?
/r/MensRights30/06/14 04:14 AM
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With my comparison I can see how you could think I was trying to make it casual. I was just trying to say that not all sexual abuse is rape, and in regards to a prom night drunken escapade, sex education (in particular, unwanted sexual contact) would be a good thing for both genders. Some people are still taught "no means maybe" and that men want sex all the time.
/r/MensRights30/06/14 04:10 AM
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I think some people need to be told, though. Not all sexual abuse is explicit. It may seem obvious, but some people don't know that things like stealing is necessarily wrong to do. If the administration is going to do this, they really should have everyone go together. As it stands, this is discrimination.
/r/MensRights30/06/14 01:46 AM
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