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Is it possible for two parties to be 100% repsonsible? If so, I'll accept the premise.
/r/MensRights24/09/18 03:59 PM
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Oh, buddy......... ​ All social movements follow basically the same four steps: ​ 1) Demand opportunity ​ 2) Demand equality ​ 3) Demand preference ​ 4) Factionalism ​ We're somewhere between the third and fourth stages with Feminism. Equality of the sexes was a long long time ago.
/r/MensRights17/09/18 07:22 PM
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For yourself but more importantly for your daughter get the best lawyer you and your family can afford. ​ ​ You're going to be on the hook for child support. And if you work and she doesn't the court will identify her as the person with the most time to serve as primary caregiver so she will most likely get primary custody. You are going to see very little of your daughter most likely. ​ The heartbreak of having her break up with you is the least of this. That will pass. The child support will l…
/r/MensRights28/08/18 04:31 PM
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It's too ironic to be believed. A powerful voice against sexual abuse being identified as a child rapist. And a powerful voice for "believing the victim" calling for cautious analysis of all available evidence before making a judgment.
/r/MensRights20/08/18 07:32 PM
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They kind of tipped their hand with the Red Pill decision
/r/MensRights15/08/18 12:48 AM
2

I think you've been trolled, man. There are a lot of stupid people out there, but my suspicion is this was done to elicit a reaction.
/r/MensRights14/08/18 12:35 AM
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They are out there. I hear what you are saying 100%, but just for your peace of mind believe me there are some evenhanded rational women out there.
/r/MensRights24/07/18 07:42 PM
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Rich white women.
/r/MensRights16/05/18 04:00 PM
1

Huh?
/r/MensRights16/05/18 04:00 PM
1

Good for you. Make sexual abuse deserves a few more champions
/r/MensRights30/04/18 04:27 AM
14

You hate to buy in to the premise--that it's a men vs. women competition in life--but in thinking about groups of women who have achieved something great, I'm having hard time identifying good contenders. Maybe M.A.D.D.--I don't know if it is an exclusively female organization, but what they have accomplished is pretty awesome.
/r/MensRights07/03/18 09:24 PM
158

Must be a shitty life to only be able to admire something awesome after you've gender-checked it for acceptability.
/r/MensRights07/03/18 09:18 PM
3

I am mortified. You are right. I'm going to leave it as it is just as zen experiment in humility.
/r/MensRights09/02/18 08:24 PM
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I don't think this is suggesting a comparison of men vs. women. It's pro-men without any reference to women. Perhaps the "supporting their families" line could be implied as a reference to women, but it's not overt. I appreciate your concern. And this site can be pretty toxic. But I think this sentiment can be expressed without a negative association.
/r/MensRights09/02/18 08:19 PM
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Fucking shot's fired.
/r/MensRights09/02/18 08:16 PM
8

For God's sake don't write anything down saying you knew she was drunk. How could you? Call a lawyer first, but then at least consider calling the police and reporting her for rape. She went into your house and into our bed while you were sleeping.
/r/MensRights08/02/18 05:12 PM
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It's something I wrestle with. It's not so unfortunate for me--Ive got a career. But these are young women from lower social classes. They don't have doctors in the family. They don't have anyone to walk them through the gamesmanship of the medical application process or speak frankly with them about what a life in medicine is like. They need a mentor to encourage them and guide them. But....it can't be me.
/r/MensRights07/02/18 06:17 PM
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I work in the medical field and work closely with a number of young people who are looking for help climbing the ladder to med school, PA school, etc. With the young men I can show an interest in them and talk about their lives and exchange emails with and take out to lunch to talk about life....all of which I had when I was considering medicine. But I would never do that with one of the women. It genuinely sucks for them. I have no reason to distrust any of them, but I just can't bet my career,…
/r/MensRights07/02/18 04:30 PM
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I think her argument is that it was his responsibility to know what she wanted (and act on it) so that she wouldn’t be the only one with the burden of asserting her desires. I think she’s a childish idiot. But there’s a whole lot of childish idiots out there.
/r/MensRights16/01/18 06:28 PM
1

Did CK have power over these women? I don’t know the details but I thought they were co-workers hired by a third party. Or is it that he was such a celebrity that he might have some unofficial power. That seems hard to identify, much less quantify.
/r/MensRights16/01/18 06:21 PM
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It's been a big story in the United States. There are guys being expelled from school over retro-active consent withdrawal. Issues where women didn't want to engage in sexual contact but felt too inhibited to say so at the time, or didn't realize the extent of their concerns at the time. And at least some of these celebrity cases (like the Louis CK case--an American comedian) where women agreed to sexual activities but didn't want to agree to them. And at least in the Ansari sexual assault case …
/r/MensRights15/01/18 06:56 PM
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This seems to the be the debate: 1) Is regretted sex retro-actively nonconsensual? 2) If a relationship does not meet a woman's expectations is it de facto an abusive relationship?
/r/MensRights15/01/18 04:32 PM
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My sister in law posted this crap. Of course she’s a former addict who moved her two kids 1500 miles away from their dad so she’s a model parent.
/r/MensRights12/12/17 05:06 AM
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Equality but not identity. Men and women are different. In some ways that results in advantages to women, and in some ways it results in advantages to men.
/r/MensRights21/11/17 05:35 AM
1

Sounds like you're nobody's victim. Good luck.
/r/MensRights21/11/17 05:10 AM
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What does being reported mean? One path would be to tell the professor you feel that he is being complicit in creating a hostile learning involvement. That you will be recording all class sessions from now on and submitting a copy to the department chair and dean at the end of each class. If this girl can bully you without pushback from you or the professor she’ll just keep on doing it. In my experience most profs fear/respect their department head and/or dean. If he balks at you recording you c…
/r/MensRights21/11/17 03:54 AM
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Only if they have sex with them.
/r/MensRights21/11/17 03:41 AM
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And we’re back to my original contention: Men do have a choice in deciding whether or not to be fathers.
/r/MensRights18/11/17 10:26 PM
1

Well this is fucking delicious
/r/MensRights18/11/17 04:41 PM
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“White” men. Not all men.
/r/MensRights15/11/17 05:55 AM
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I think a couple of your points are well taken and I think we agree on more than we disagree. The studies to support my contention, or yours, don't exist. I think we differ on this idea of women trapping men with babies: I think the majority of un-dual-desired births are the product of recklessness or statistical birth control failure and not maternal conniving. Ultimately, what is best for these kids. Surely having their daddy's money at their disposal is a benefit. Would the reduction in suffe…
/r/MensRights12/11/17 11:32 PM
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I think you are wrong and possibly self-contradicory. Your first argument is that men walking away from their responsibilities will reduce single motherhood. I think that is an unsupported contention. Surely its as likely that allowing men to be irresponsible would reduce condom compliance and increase unplanned pregnancies. Your second argument is that more men would participate in their child's life if they felt they had some right to not participate in that child's life. Again, counter-intuit…
/r/MensRights09/11/17 01:56 AM
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I think we have reached the point where our conversation is going to probably grind to a halt. I think that "decisions about the pregnancy" include the decision about whether to create a pregnancy, and thus fulfill the criteria for autonomy and thus responsibility. And I don't accept that "the state" is a fourth party. The "state" is other people, and I won't buy in to a personal morality that requires moral behavior of others, but not one's self.
/r/MensRights09/11/17 01:50 AM
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I'm 100% on board with the benefits of more male birth control. I'm not cool with the argument that since men's birth-related choices are less than women's that the child can be the victim of that inequality. As long as men have the option of not creating life--and we all do (male child rape victims excepted)--then we have the obligation to take responsibility for the lives we do create. Failing to do so puts the burden of our decision on the shoulders of kids who had zero choice in the life cre…
/r/MensRights07/11/17 08:46 PM
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I will concede the point that statutory rape vicitims should not be liable for the children conceived there-by. When you talk about people being reasonably held responsible for their choices it sounds like you are making a moral argument (with which I agree). If that argument is that people can only be held responsible for their choices ---then how is it right to hold children responsible for the fact of their existence over which they had no choice, or allow them to suffer the consequences of s…
/r/MensRights07/11/17 08:38 PM
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I think you may be confusing biology with morality. Women have more control over pregnancy because it HAPPENS IN THEIR BODIES! You are expecting “equality” when the human substrate doesn’t allow for any such thing. Life is not fair. But if you are concerned about fairness you should be arguing for MORE parental responsibility, not less, so the innocent party (the child) suffers the least. By your reasoning pregnancy shouldn’t be legal because you’re allowing one gender to benefit from their acti…
/r/MensRights06/11/17 07:22 PM
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Aside from not fucking vaginas which, legally, they have 100% autonomy in. The idea vaginal sex is second only to oxygen on the hierarchy of needs is not sustainable. But if you feel that way (as, frankly, I do)—fine, just accept the consequences of your decision to indulge that particular appetite. Shunting the consequences onto a child is not, I think we can agree, very manly.
/r/MensRights06/11/17 04:05 PM
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Yeah.....total control until you stick your cock in a vagina. You can live a long happy life without vaginal sex. That one restriction is not too life limiting. And if you choose to go there then man up and accept the consequences of your decision. This isn’t complicated.
/r/MensRights06/11/17 04:02 PM
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That part I agree with. More contraception choices would be good for everyone. Even so, men have near total control over their sperm. Pretending we are helpless victims is a tough sell.
/r/MensRights05/11/17 08:20 PM
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Well “zero choice” is....well either a lie or a fantasy. Guys have a lot of choice about whether they create a human life or not. Take a little responsibility for where you spread your sperm. Expecting other men to take responsibility for your decisions is how children think. I’m sure you aren’t a child, so raise your responsibility game a little.
/r/MensRights05/11/17 08:18 PM
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How would this make the child’s life better? Rather than thinking about how to get perfect equity between men and women, throw in a third (innocent) party. Maybe the law should be designed to give the greatest protection to those with the least autonomy.
/r/MensRights28/10/17 08:13 AM
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Typical gyn whining
/r/MensRights07/09/17 09:31 PM
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So it's not an objection to this image so much as this image being the straw that broke the camel's back as it were. I hear you. A lot of the stuff here is whining and nauseating. But Ive learned a fair amount about circumcision and discordant sentencing and male birth control, etc. I think the value of a sub like this is you don't hear about these things elsewhere. Although, that's the same argument Fox news used at it's inception, so I realize the argument may have its limits.
/r/MensRights30/08/17 08:38 PM
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Seems like a really strong response to a very mild stimulus. What do you find so objectionable?
/r/MensRights28/08/17 02:11 PM
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Yes. But only for people capable of rational thought
/r/MensRights16/08/17 07:53 PM
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Surely its only a matter of time.
/r/MensRights30/07/17 11:44 PM
1

Sweet use of the word retarded.
/r/MensRights25/07/17 06:05 AM
1

That seems like a very good point.
/r/MensRights25/07/17 06:03 AM
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If you read the USAToday review it's enthusiastic and mentions, briefly, at the end, something along the lines of "some audience members might be caught off guard by the absence of women and minorities in major roles." It's a very positive review and characterizing the remark on women and minorities as a complaint is overstating the case.
/r/MensRights24/07/17 04:21 AM
1

Well...criminal cases do work this way. If you are charged with a crime and don't show up for court they will still convict and sentence you. If you show up later and claim you had no idea that a criminal case had been brought against you, you'll still be cooling your heels in jail while things are sorted out. I hope he is telling the truth and can prove it. I hope that even if he isn't the fact he isn't the father will be weighed (heavily) in his favor.
/r/MensRights24/07/17 12:00 AM
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That's good for the father, but not so good for the child. The father has virtually unlimited autonomy, while the child has none. A system that's great for autonomous party A and great for autonomous party B but shitty for non-agent C is.....at best 67% moral. We can do better
/r/MensRights22/07/17 09:23 PM
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What you are missing is: she filed a paternity claim, he did not contest it. He says he never received the subpoena--fine that can be adjudicated. But it's not like the court said he was liable despite evidence of him not being the father.
/r/MensRights22/07/17 09:05 PM
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Click bait. The original paternity finding was not contested. The fact he isn't not there father only came to light recently and the appeals process is under way Yawn to your downvotes. He DIDNT CONTEST PATERNITY. Now that he is contesting it the matter will be addressed by the courts. Nothing more pathetic than grown men whining. Grow up guys.
/r/MensRights22/07/17 03:53 PM
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Generally in favor. But as an alternative to dumpsters, not as alternative to responsible parenting. I think I take your point. If I support a parent abdicating their responsibilities by dropping a kid off at the local fire station what is the difference in a parent (father) simply abdicating their (his) responsibilities in some less dramatic fashion? If that is your point I think it's exceptionally well made. My stance is best articulated as (the nauseatingly named) child centric social justice…
/r/MensRights20/07/17 04:06 PM
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I can't make out what you mean. Did you mean "woman"? Is the implicit argument that since women have the ability to abort unwanted pregnancies that the Universe owes men equal powers? Women have a different relationship to pregnancy than do men. Their bodies are involved in it. That gives them a platform to stand on that men just don't have. The idea of some perfect all-aspect equality between the sexes is a fantasy. Men will always have shorter lines for the bathroom and women will always have …
/r/MensRights17/07/17 03:16 AM
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I think my argument is a bit different. The pro-choice argument--as I understand it--is that the mother's right to autonomy over her body trumps the fetus's right to life. With a father the issue of corporeal autonomy is not in play. I grant the concepts in play are similar, but there are crucial differences. Ultimately it comes to a balance of rights. Those entities who have the greatest autonomy (mom and dad) require the least societal protection. As fathers have near total autonomy I'm unimpr…
/r/MensRights17/07/17 02:54 AM
1

A doesn't follow B. Parachutes should be illegal. She knew there was a chance she'd plummet to Earth when she jumped out of the plane.
/r/MensRights17/07/17 01:49 AM
1

Pro choice for what and for whom?
/r/MensRights17/07/17 01:48 AM
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"Agree" "Deserve" What's next..."feelings"? We can have a discussion about rights, and feelings, and inequality, but let's not confuse it with a discussion of reality. Reality is if you have heterosexual sex you are running the risk of creating a baby. So the question is: What rights men should have once they've created a baby? Is that the issue? The right to compel abortions? Probably no. That seems pretty fucking creepy. The right to walk away from the responsibility of supporting a baby they …
/r/MensRights16/07/17 06:24 PM
1

Dear god man: If you have sex you are running the chance of making a baby. There is no "agreement" necessary. If you step off a cliff there's a chance you might fall to the ground--with or without your precious agreement. If you pour gasoline on yourself and light a match you might explode into flame, even if you did not agree to it before hand. Even if you didn't really want to burst into flame. Even if the idea of laying in a burn ward in pain for a ear really bums you out. Sex is like that---…
/r/MensRights16/07/17 06:13 PM
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Buddy, you know where babies come from right? From sex between a mommy and a daddy. Sex is a lot of fun....but you cannot pretend it doesn't come with the risk of creating life. In fact, the REASON it is fun is to trick us into creating new life. Our genes want to propagate. Who the fuck is "making you a slave." The evil woman who tricked you into fucking her without a condom? The evil baby you created? Who is "making you a slave." Is it....gasp!....you're own irresponsibility that might possibl…
/r/MensRights16/07/17 06:06 PM
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Every time you have heterosexual vaginal sex you are running the chance that you will create a human life. That's just a scientific fact. You can be upset about it, but can't dispute it's truth. You can't deny responsibility for the known consequences of a volitional act. There are a lot of humans on the face of the Earth. It's not a secret how they got there. Just take a little responsibility for your sperm.
/r/MensRights16/07/17 05:47 PM
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....and the right to use a condom. Or not fuck at all.
/r/MensRights16/07/17 05:32 PM
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Good on you. Im sure it's been hard hard work.
/r/MensRights16/07/17 05:31 PM
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Your cited article does not support your argument. You have 100% control over your sperm. Choosing to give the woman responsibility for your sperm is a choice you are free to make....but not a wise or mature one. We all know women can lie and condoms can fail. If you choose heterosexual sex you are choosing to take on the responsibilities for the known consequences of heterosexual sex. If you don't want those responsibilities there is no need to take them on. Yes. Getting a woman pregnant is ass…
/r/MensRights13/07/17 08:40 PM
1

Agreed to assume. Isn't fathering a child agreeing to assume responsibility for the child's care? The details of how much can be hashed out, but the fundamental obligation is not in question is it. If I'm not responsible for the care of a child I fathered--who is? You have total right to freedom from fatherhood. The fact women have more control over the fetus is an accident of nature, and fortunate for them, but you have 100% control over your sperm.
/r/MensRights24/06/17 06:05 PM
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We disagree. I think it is reasonable to expect certain minimum standards of human behavior. The fact we know are fellow humans are capable of barbarity does not equate to us deserving barbarous treatment when we put our selves in contact with others. If your example removed the agency of others--for instance instead of being white and flashing money in Compton, being human and playing with Grizzlies in Alaska--then I would agree with you.
/r/MensRights24/06/17 05:47 PM
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It's possible for the kid to be really foolish, maybe even arrogant, and still not deserve to be beaten death.
/r/MensRights24/06/17 04:51 PM
1

I think you are stretching with this use of the concept of involuntary servitude. But I find the argument intriguing and I appreciate you answering my question. As for abandoning a child. Roe v Wade doesn't allow women to abandon a child, it allows them to abort him or her. But, again--intriguing.
/r/MensRights20/06/17 04:35 AM
1

I can't argue with you. My sole point is that child support is a totally valid obligation.
/r/MensRights20/06/17 04:32 AM
1

I'm sure that a lot of these lawsuits are abusive, but there's no men's rights problem with the idea of paternity support, is there?
/r/MensRights14/06/17 07:38 PM
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Wait wait wait....you read the article before commenting on it? Is that a thing?
/r/MensRights07/06/17 03:13 PM
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Well, yeah, you should be a good member of the community and not submit stuff uncritically or without some thought. It only takes a minute to check if something has already posted and it makes for a more pleasant experience for everyone.
/r/MensRights06/06/17 04:28 AM
1

Classic Gynwhining
/r/MensRights03/06/17 09:48 PM
1

Bro--just take a moment to check if it's already been posted. If you can't check, don't post. If it's important enough for you to post, someone else will feel the same
/r/MensRights03/06/17 07:39 PM
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An informal chat? Really? This conversation wasn't documented? You didn't sign anything and you didn't get a follow up archival email restating the elements of the conversation? I think the only thing you could be faulted for is asking for her phone number. But in my mind that's a pretty big mis-step. I have no doubt you'll never make the mistake again. For myself, I find referencing my wife in a conversation minimizes the perception of flirting--instead of "I live by Glenview metro stop" I say …
/r/MensRights08/04/17 09:27 AM
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Totally agree. What the hell does this have to do with men's rights?
/r/MensRights08/04/17 04:00 AM
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I think your main argument here is largely right, and that my statement was based on an incorrect understanding of the word "discount" in this context. I understood it to mean "devalue", when (at the age of 42) I have just learned it means to entirely discredit or disbelieve. You are right, it is not appropriate to disbelieve the argument because of it's provenance. I do feel it is appropriate to devalue the argument. I believe it was Aristotle who posited that when considering information you h…
/r/MensRights25/02/17 05:27 PM
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Why not? If it was a major organization with a reputation for serious medical inquiry, it would provide validity to their statement. If it's a fringe group with a history of taking positions well outside of the mainstream of medical thought that would seem to devalue this current position.
/r/MensRights24/02/17 05:23 PM
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Do you feel the same way about OJs murders?
/r/MensRights08/10/16 06:48 PM
1

Moving the goal posts? You bypassed my central argument--that suggesting FGM and MGM were the same was insupportable--and chose to argue that there might be some drawbacks to circumcision in some cases. That's a pretty low standard you set yourself. Try to tackle the argument I made. But that would be very hard so you've built a one sided argument. It's like discussing motor vehicle safety and only mentioning the fact that seatbelts wrinkle clothing and cause chance fractures. Or discussing the …
/r/MensRights08/10/16 03:49 PM
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You also haven't made an argument.
/r/MensRights08/10/16 03:30 PM
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Spoken like a dude who hasn't had his clitoris cut out. Or ever had a meaningful relationship with a woman. Ear piercing in a three month old is "unconsented" body modification. So are the limb amputations of the Rwanda genocide. If you are too cerebral to appreciate a difference, you have no place in the conversation. "The consequences of each are--snort, snort-- irrelevant" LOL!
/r/MensRights08/10/16 05:42 AM
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Sigh....... HIV: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27497811 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18840841 Sexual satisfaction: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19522862 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23937309 etc. etc. etc. Your post isn't an argument. It is a deductive Google search filtered for any troubling antithetical results. You're practicing deductive reasoning. If you want to be informed on the subject you'll have to pursue an education beyond what the internet can provide. If …
/r/MensRights08/10/16 05:36 AM
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What is your argument?
/r/MensRights08/10/16 05:19 AM
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My God, man. It's horrifying to think you might be serious. Yes--congratulations--making sex a painful and unpleasant experience makes women less likely to get HIV. Yay? From the study you cited: "Yount and Abraham (2007) in their article propose that women who participate in the practice of FGM are more likely to follow the approved set of gender guidelines for the community and are thereby less likely to engage in sex before marriage and extramarital affairs. The nature of the procedure also h…
/r/MensRights08/10/16 05:18 AM
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I'm not prepared to spend much time talking about pinpricks of the labia. Who would be? FGM has a well understood meaning among people who discuss the issue seriously: Clitoral resection. If you have a different, pet definition of FGM it's of no interest to me. If you are interested in the subject of FGM and wish to know more about it, let me know.
/r/MensRights08/10/16 05:08 AM
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I'm a physician and have studied FGM in some detail. It may be you have more training, education and experience, but I doubt it. I suspect your education consists mainly of internet searches. Please correct me if Im wrong. The health arguments for circumcision are compelling. Paraphimosis, obstructive phimosis, penile cancer. I deal with the former on a regular basis and the data on the latter are incontrovertible. The sexual injury associated with FGM is, again, incontrovertible. If you are equ…
/r/MensRights08/10/16 05:05 AM
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There are huge differences between MGM and FGM. MGM is basically a benign procedure that has positive health benefits. FGM is crippling and serves no pro-health purpose. I'm not particularly pro or con MGM, but equating FGM and MGM is a false equivalency.
/r/MensRights07/10/16 11:03 PM
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It's a constant of rhetoric for that insults/ad hominen attacks are a sign of a poor rhetorical capacity. You're going to meet ignorant people and assholes pretty regularly for the rest of your life. You should try to develop an arsenal of two or three approaches for dealing with them that you can revert to whenever the occasion arises. One tip for dealing with insults is to substitute curiosity for the emotion they are hoping for (anger, fear, defensiveness, whatever). "You say Im a mother fuck…
/r/MensRights04/10/16 06:52 PM
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I'm not Dopey! I'm Doc. And sometimes Sneezey!
/r/MensRights12/09/16 04:53 PM
2

Dude. I'm sorry for whatever happened to you. But stand down. A whole lot of guys have felt like you. It will get better. And you'll find love again.
/r/MensRights12/09/16 01:25 AM
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vomit
/r/MensRights21/08/16 04:54 AM
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