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Can you give me a definition of regulation please? And what’s your argument for why an abortion at 15 weeks is murder? I’d like to hear it. I think Ireland (famously Catholic country) thought a lot about abortion and its legality. It was illegal there for many years, but the population pretty overwhelmingly rejected the consequences of the laws. It’s legal there now, because it’s better than the alternative and the harm it can do to a woman. Most people understand that in this country. So I thin…
/r/MensRights23/02/25 08:04 AM
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https://fox2now.com/news/missouri/missouri-pregnant-woman-registry-bill/amp/ Hmmmm. Now I’m not gonna call you dishonest. I’m gonna call you uninformed and partisan. If a registry is not regulation, what the heck is it? People have different opinions on abortion friend. Most people simply don’t consider an abortion before viability the same thing as murder. The pro-life movement has had decades to convince people otherwise, but they’ve failed. Why not let people hold their subjective truth and t…
/r/MensRights20/02/25 02:19 PM
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Sorry for the late response. I went ahead and watched it. I think she’s well spoken and presents a compelling case. However, there are things that she said that I find questionable. Abortion pill reversal This is probably what I most disagreed with during the interview. The abortion pill is a series of two pills taken a few weeks apart. She was making the claim that giving the hormone progestin after the first pill can reverse its effects. She backed up her claim by saying she had observed thous…
/r/MensRights18/02/25 06:47 AM
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That’s a pretty fucked up thing to read about. Obviously I don’t agree with how they decided that case.
/r/MensRights18/02/25 05:29 AM
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I think the problem with the pro-life crowd is that they don’t want to acknowledge how harmful their absolutists laws can be. Luckily, we do not need to sit here and talk in hypotheticals—we can look at how this played out Luther countries such as Ireland. I’ve said it in this thread before, and I’ll say it again: Ireland—a famously Catholic country—repealed a constitutional amendment that had banned abortion The referendum to make abortion constitutionally illegal passed in the early 80s with 6…
/r/MensRights18/02/25 05:23 AM
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Rocky I stand by my words when I say the Texas state government is regulating pregnancy. Things can go wrong during pregnancy, and i personally do not think the nanny state government should be interfering with the patient doctor relationship. I can entertain being against abortion on moral grounds, but if the mother’s life is at risk, the government needs to let the woman and doctor handle that. I don’t personally view an 1 week old fetus as being that different than sperm. An 1 week old fetus …
/r/MensRights18/02/25 05:07 AM
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To quote my last message: “However, what I’m critiquing here is that the abortion laws (such as in texas) are doing a poor job making sure proper medicine is being practiced.” I think you’re trying to apply an argument to me that does not match what I have said to you. I can be pro choice and still point out that the Texas law is dangerous for women. I want to ask you this. Do you consider masturbation murder? Do you consider having sex during a woman’s menstrual phase murder (where an egg can p…
/r/MensRights16/02/25 11:53 PM
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They did try clarifying the sepsis case after the fact, so that’s good. However, they are still being criticized for the law being ambiguous and the fact that it hard to apply to every unique case: “But the Center for Reproductive Rights, which is funding the lawsuit on behalf of the women and doctors, said there was no list long enough to encompass all cases where an abortion might be medically necessary. Their position mirrors that of the American College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists, w…
/r/MensRights16/02/25 05:20 PM
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Wouldn’t the woman be put in jail in that scenario? Do you have a link or anything to a similar scenario happening in real life? (I know something like this has happened) That’s incredibly fucked up either way. I think the idea that women can’t sexually assault men is absurd but that does seem to be a pretty common belief.
/r/MensRights16/02/25 05:14 PM
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There are cases where the baby ain’t going to survive and continuing the pregnancy will harm the mother: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-65935189.amp Seriously, it’s really messed up. It doesn’t save any lives and only puts the mother in harms way. I support access to elective abortion up to viability. Most people do in fact. I don’t really see an issue with a woman getting an abortion at say 12 weeks. And that’s obviously not something most women take lightly. However, what I’m critiqu…
/r/MensRights16/02/25 08:40 AM
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Hey thanks for sharing. I’m listening now. I’m gonna have a lot of thoughts on it. Do you want me to give you my brief thoughts or detailed thoughts?
/r/MensRights16/02/25 07:25 AM
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Rocky, I feel like you’re just nitpicking my choice of words. If someone dies because the government blocked physician recommended medical care, that’s government overreach. This is not the same thing as opposing an elective abortion. I’d like to reiterate that you should read the article. I don’t really get the impression that you’d care to do so. Seems like your stance is predetermined.
/r/MensRights16/02/25 07:14 AM
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Who cares
/r/MensRights16/02/25 03:46 AM
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Yeah all those things are related to pregnancy. You should be able to understand that. You seem smart enough to. But if you don’t that’s fine :) All I’m gonna say is that there’s a reason that Ireland (obviously an extremely Catholic country) repealed a constitutional amendment in order to legalize abortion. People had died from not being able to get an abortion. If you read that article I sent in my last message, you’d see there was basically no potential to save the baby. It was stillborn, but…
/r/MensRights16/02/25 02:56 AM
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Is it dishonest to say the state is sticking their nose into reproductive health? Is it dishonest to say that government laws led to preventative deaths? https://www.texastribune.org/2024/10/30/texas-abortion-ban-josseli-barnica-death-miscarriage/
/r/MensRights15/02/25 10:46 PM
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And I’d say that’s some bootlicking thinking. I’d love to go back in time and tell the workers unionizing against the gilded age robber barons that they were being gynocentric and just needed to work harder. The social bargain between the wealthy and the working/middle class is not in a good place on the United States. Most men want to be able to provide for their families, but it’s becoming increasingly more difficult to do that. When men were able to easily provide for their families on a sing…
/r/MensRights15/02/25 10:40 PM
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There are a lot of ways you could raise the tax revenue needed to fund this without putting the burden on the majority. The Panama Papers revealed massive illegal tax evasion by the wealthy in the united states: "The annual costs of illegal tax evasion for the US ranged from $20bn to $70bn." https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-35966612 A paid family leave plan is estimated to cost $200 billion over 10 years. https://www.cbo.gov/publication/57631 Personally, I'd support families over letting…
/r/MensRights15/02/25 07:33 PM
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Federal parental leave would cost $200 billion over a 10 year period: https://www.cbo.gov/publication/57631 I used to be in the same camp as you opposing something like this. But the fact of the matter is that we spent at least $3 trillion in the Middle East after 9/11: https://www.hks.harvard.edu/publications/true-cost-iraq-war-3-trillion-and-beyond Our government is about to a pass a $4.5 trillion tax cut which will mostly benefit the wealthy: https://www.cbpp.org/research/federal-tax/2025-bud…
/r/MensRights15/02/25 07:21 PM
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The Ohio abortion law did not have an exception for rape. "Abortions would be allowed if the woman's life is in danger, but it contains no exceptions for rape or incest." https://www.beaconjournal.com/story/news/politics/state/2019/04/11/dewine-signs-heartbeat-bill-into/5461638007/ Also I got out wrong, the girl was 10, not 12: https://www.npr.org/2022/07/13/1111285143/abortion-10-year-old-raped-ohio
/r/MensRights15/02/25 07:04 PM
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We have different reproductive rights than women because men are not the ones getting pregnant. Practically, I don’t think it would work to say a man has a say on if a woman he impregnated can get an abortion or not. Being pregnant is a petty big burden and you need to let the woman and her doctor make decisions on complications. I think men get shafted FAR more in parental rights in the United States. Federally mandated paternity leave is something that exists in other countries and that should…
/r/MensRights15/02/25 05:31 PM
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The burden of proof of what is “life-threatening” is high. Something likely being life-threatening is not even enough in a lot of cases in Texas. “Doctors told her she had cervical insufficiency, which is a weakening of the cervical tissue that causes premature dilation, and that her unborn daughter would not survive. A standard course of medical treatment for an unviable pregnancy at that stage of development is to terminate, and extract the foetus. Waiting to miscarry naturally can put the mot…
/r/MensRights15/02/25 05:16 PM
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Sometimes a person needs an abortion out of medical necessity. Generally, it’s a physician and a patient making that decision. However, some of the laws, such as the Texas abortion ban, have presented a barrier to that. The state has inserted itself into that decision making process. Maybe regulate is not the perfect term, but It’s certainly government intervention.
/r/MensRights15/02/25 09:05 AM
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Yeah it’s a pretty empty political stunt. It won’t accomplish anything. They probably feel they have to do it for their constituents though so I get it.
/r/MensRights15/02/25 08:31 AM
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I’m a medical student. When we did our block on reproductive health and pregnancy, it genuinely blew my mind how complicated pregnancy can be. There is so much potential for things to go wrong and harm the fetus/baby and or the mother. The abortion laws are a big barrier to some of this care. You can have a case where a baby will almost certainly be stillborn and potentially physically harm the mother, but be unable to do the needed procedure because it is a legally risky area. The laws expect y…
/r/MensRights15/02/25 08:27 AM
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Maybe. I just think we’re all smart enough to see what the point of them doing that was. The idea that the government is going to be able to have adequate enough surveillance to enforce such a law is ridiculous on its face. I could maybe imagine people who are pretty disconnected from politics and the news taking this seriously. And i understand what you’re saying about resentment towards the party (it’s definitely there). But I’m speaking more about understanding what this bill’s purpose is bec…
/r/MensRights15/02/25 07:37 AM
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Yeah this isn’t a serious bill dude. I’m not sure what else to tell you. Go get mad that we don’t have paid paternity leave in this country. That’s something that would actually help people.
/r/MensRights15/02/25 06:34 AM
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Yeah. It wouldn’t be possible to actually to police if someone masturbates or not baring extreme surveillance. I’m from Ohio. Ohio had a de facto abortion ban on the books for a few months and there was a whole story about a 12 year old rape victim needing to go to Indiana to get her abortion. I think there’s frustration in the state because the republicans keep pushing on restricting abortion, even though Ohioans generally want a pro-choice state.
/r/MensRights15/02/25 06:32 AM
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I’m an Ohio resident. The Republicans had an abortion ban on the books before it got held up in court. A 12 year old got raped, impregnated, and had to travel to Indiana for an abortion (and then republicans tried prosecuting and canceling the doctor that performed the abortion). I just think we should be adults and acknowledge how fucked up that is. The bills mentioned in this post are meant to highlight the hypocrisy of laws regulating a woman’s pregnancy. The anti abortion laws however are no…
/r/MensRights15/02/25 06:26 AM
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lol at your comment getting downvoted. People want to treat this like rage bait
/r/MensRights15/02/25 06:15 AM
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The point is to show the hypocrisy of wanting to have the state regulate something like a woman’s pregnancy
/r/MensRights15/02/25 06:14 AM
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In the United States, it’s because the Republican Party has blocked it (numerous times): https://www.foxnews.com/politics/republicans-move-kill-dem-proposal-include-women-military-draft.amp Usually the Fox News comment section is unhinged, but what I find interesting on this one is that the commenters generally want to see women in the draft. There’s really no good argument against it.
/r/MensRights14/02/25 09:44 AM
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I mean, let’s be fair. He had 4 years his last term and a government trifecta to pass a new healthcare bill…..don’t happen. He actually did not do much of anything even with broad control of the government. Wouldn’t be surprised if in 2028, we look back and see all he accomplished his second term was chaos and a large tax cut for the wealthy.
/r/MensRights11/02/25 02:33 AM
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But they quite literally have attempted to make the draft gender neutral: https://thehill.com/policy/defense/4730560-senate-democrats-require-women-draft/
/r/MensRights11/02/25 02:21 AM
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That’s exactly what democrats have been wanting to do: https://thehill.com/policy/defense/4730560-senate-democrats-require-women-draft/
/r/MensRights11/02/25 02:20 AM
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Dems have consistently pushed to have women included in the draft (to the strong objections of conservatives). Not quite abolishing it, but if it exists, it should be men and women https://thehill.com/policy/defense/4730560-senate-democrats-require-women-draft/
/r/MensRights11/02/25 02:20 AM
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