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mwcmu452/r/askTRP11/08/20 04:16 PM
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Easy, don’t do relationships, that was my solution to everything related to women. I reached this conclusion after a lot of reflecting on my past. I still find myself getting attached or wanting that relationship feeling/vibe, but I’d rather not have sex at all than be in a relationship. So much work, “don’t do this” “don’t do that” she will lose attraction..”women like a man with a passion” so keep working until you drop from a heart attack..”does she really find me attractive as much as the Ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 04:11 PM
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Aside from the reasons you pointed out, men in general, emphasis on “in general”, fall slower in love but deeper, and are generally very loyal to people who, or seemingly, were good to them and helped them during tough times. Also, if we want to reason based on redpill framework, a man’s commitment is very valuable, and hence, once a woman breaks the commitment, it affects them psychologically more, as being “cucked” is far worse to men, than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 07:55 PM
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Man, you seem to need more awareness about the dating game, and what is happening on the other side. I used to be naive like you, and have the same reactions. With women, always assume the “worst”, meaning that they always have someone for sex and guys for attention. Women are never “single”. Assuming said women are not ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 07:54 AM
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This part, which is AF/BB, is really age dependent, and far often applied more broadly than I think it should. I think it is AF/AB until they hit whatever age deadline they set for themselves. BB only comes in the equation when they start running out of time, which if the woman is smart, is around 24-25 years old, and I’ve seen this to be the case many times. Some women remain longer in the game, till 30 or so, but that can be risky, if they eventually want an LTR/marriage. But as an overall str…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 07:48 AM
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Actually I think it goes like, a man shouldn’t get in an LTR if he isn’t of enough value to obtain casual sex in some certain degree. If a woman thinks a man is high value enough, she might give casual sex a chance in hopes of a chance it turns into something more. The most confusing scenario to me, was when a woman would string me a long for sex, even when I opened my cards and took her on sexless dates after hooking up. My only explanation that women in this scenario are just very promiscuous,…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 08:00 PM
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🙏
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 05:36 AM
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This right here, personality is important, but only matters after the fact that she finds you attractive already.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 04:17 AM
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Fair enough. I agree it is somewhat of an overanalysis. But some of us are not always very aware of all the dating cues, and gaining more understanding helps us avoid getting into bad relationships, disrespected or getting hurt.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 03:39 AM
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I agree that personality and having a good social life can help. Also, being at the right place and time, helps. There are some really promiscuous women that would fuck anything, especially when intoxicated, but they are in the minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 09:42 AM
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I am not sure how your comment is related to mine. You gave an example of how you fucked a ton of hot girls and settled with a hot one too. Where did I say that an average woman cannot do the same, she can, but the odds are against her. (Also, most men can’t fuck a ton of hot women, that’s a fact.) Only a minority of women can settle down with hot top 10% men. No more than 10% of them at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 09:22 AM
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For women, hot guy with bad personality > average guy with great personality I can’t say the same for men, as any self respecting man would go limp if a woman is being a bitch to them
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 09:13 AM
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I see your point, and I brought up this point before on PPD, and never got a real answer within the AFBB framework, but folks did bring up one good point in their answers is that this is not common enough to be a significant part of the discussion. I myself was used for sex by women who didn’t want a relationship with me, but it wasn’t very common, at least for me. My only explanation as of yet, is that these women were very promiscuous, and would rather have good sex than no sex at all while th…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 08:50 AM
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Mathematically speaking, banging hot dudes and settling down with hot dudes doesn’t work for the majority of women. If we assume hot dudes make up about 10-20%, and 20% is stretching it in my opinion, then only 10-20% or less women can settle down with hot dudes (assuming women to men ratio is 1 to 1, which is a very reasonable assumption). Also, if you have experienced life enough, you will quickly start to notice how many relationships are BB/man settled for relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 08:40 AM
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There are different dimensions to what makes hands manly I would think, similar to built. Long and lean, would be similar to tall and slim built. Other dimensions, are the shape and thickness, including bones and muscles. Manly hands in terms of shape would be squarish hands, for example, the palm would be protruding outside the wrist and the thumb joint would be protruding too. In general, the most masculine would be high on all dimensions. But if low on all dimensions, then that would be youth…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 09:43 PM
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Feet to men are like what hands are to women. At least that has been my observation so far. Men like cute small feet, and women like manly hands. Men put more emphasis on feet rather than hands, and women on hands more than feet. Do my observations/conclusions on this make sense?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 06:03 AM
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You want a short fat bald guy!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 05:46 AM
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I hear ya. I’ve been in relationships before, and they did feel really good at the time, but looking back and reassessing, and with more dating experience and a slight redpill/blackpill take, I feel bad how I was a dumbfuck being played living in a fantasy world. And looking around me, including close family members, I can assure you that at least 90% of the relationships are beta bucks relationships. Relationships are really hard and a mindfuck to decipher the real motive behind the woman. Many…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 10:17 PM
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I’m assuming you’re a man? May I ask, how do you personally deal with not having any intimacy with the opposite sex? Does it not affect your mental health? But I can see how mental health after rejection would probably be impacted more negatively compared to not trying at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 09:27 PM
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Yes, but those same women are very manipulative, they can tell you all the right things, and show interest, so it would feel like they’re totally in for 70-80% of the time, and then there is this 20% of the time that you’re like what did just happen. It is a project to decipher what the other persons intentions are, and many women are very manipulative. I know my capacity is limited in terms of decoding manipulation and reading really hidden social cues, so I decided to not care anymore, just fu…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 10:56 PM
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Not accurate. I’ve had a woman put all the effort and energy in texting, and reply fast to me, just to string me along for dates and meals. Come date time or the day before, and her behavior would switch 180 degrees. This was her way of ensuring the date was set her way, a.k.a. beta dates on her terms, and then she can have her time to go chase Chad cock. I’ve had women string me along for sex too. That is different. As the woman wouldn’t be too eager to go on actual dates, but some would try ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 10:36 PM
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Totally. Women, in general, are much more aware of the dating game and dynamics. They are just masters at manipulation and saying what is more socially acceptable. It took me years to understand the dating dynamics, and the internet, with TRP and blackpill knowledge, cleared a lot of things to me and things started to fall into place. Last time I visited my family, my older married brother, who admittedly suffers from dead bedroom and is in a clearly BB relationship, was arguing with me that loo…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 01:34 AM
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I’m not necessarily against TRP, but assuming everyone can get into the top 20% just doesn’t mathematically work. Also, I see on PPD a lot of focus on height, which is still very important, but blackpill states that face is higher in importance than height. I tend believe in both TRP and Blackpill. But as someone who went from a natural redpill guy during my school years because of looking better than most my peers, and because of my low inhib behaviors back then, to a complete loner in my thirt…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 05:54 AM
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When I was not redpill aware, some of the women I went on dates with kind of picked on that, and treated and abused me like no tomorrow, that I still feel bad till this day when it crosses my mind. Mind you, I was out of a 7 year LTR, and was not aware of how the dating market operates. But some of these women are super manipulative, and it takes someone with infinite social IQ, knowledge and experience with intersexual dynamics to figure out what’s going on. To that point, just today a woman as…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 11:34 PM
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It always amazes me that when it comes to career and fiscal matters between the genders, everybody is cheering for helping women and all that jazz. It is frowned upon to admit that maybe men are better at certain tasks, and those tasks pay higher wages, or that at the same job, men on average can be more competitive and industrious. On the other hand, when it comes to inequality in the dating market, it is actually frowned upon for a man to admit how rigged the dating market is in favor of women…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 06:20 PM
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How do you mean? That women don’t care about looks? So men are allowed to age.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 01:42 AM
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It is not just about comparing the peak ages between genders. The rate of decline from the peak is faster for women, on average, that is. Do some men age faster than the average woman, yes, but men on average have thicker skin. Thicker skin = age slower.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 01:20 AM
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Where does the scenario where a man gets used for sex fall under? As a man, I’ve been used for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 02:47 AM
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This man gets it. What’s the point of investing in something that has a very little chance in a positive result? And even if the result was positive, is it really positive? Very likely the relationship will be a beta bucks deal. I’m really surprised that some men don’t understand this. They’re either chads or have little experience in todays dating scene. The last girl I went out with for more than 4 dates, was a 4 at best, and I’m somewhere around a 6 (details for the sake of cringe: 5’11, 170l…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 04:24 AM
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Even above average isn’t enough, I’m above average in every way, but nothing 7+ on the scale (except eduction and money, I’m above 7, which is only for LTRs), and still second option. You have to be top 20% in at least a couple of different dimensions, and no less the average in the others, to get a genuine attraction from women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 04:08 AM
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“Stacy chasing”? This is the issue with this sub. The general principles that govern the dynamics of the dating market are still being debated, and we circle back to point zero. Didn’t you get the memo about female hypergamy when it comes to sexual attraction? Guys that are sub7 or sub8, will more than likely not be the first option, even for average women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 03:54 AM
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If you’re doing exercises that target the medial head of your shoulders, chances are the same exercise is hitting your traps too. Generally, I don’t think isolated trap work is needed, unless you’re traps are a genetic weakness, and need more work.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 05:57 AM
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I loved my ex unconditionally (I am a man if this info is related), so your point that unconditional love doesn’t exist, is false. It does exist. Wish I didn’t love her though lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 08:29 PM
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Imagine having a job in sales where you have to sell a shitty product that nobody wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 08:10 PM
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Man don’t listen to those fools telling you that you have a defeatist mindset and all that bullshit. They are either chads or young and not experienced enough in todays dating market. Likely the latter. You have a pragmatic and realistic mindset. What’s the point in wasting all this time, effort, and money, just to keep getting rejected, hoping for that 1 in thousand chance that maybe a woman would truly love you? And with each rejection, your mental health is getting worse and worse. Even if th…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 05:01 PM
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More men will wake up to the AF/BB dynamic, and normie guys will reject betabucks relationships with women in larger numbers. For both, sub7 or sub8 women and men, monogamy will not be an option anymore. These women will accept a single life, and have casual sex with “chads” every now and then. For the men, they will use escorts. Nothing will change for sub5 men or women. Their situation can’t get any “worse”.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 07:33 PM
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You sir have good understanding of what is going on. The whole society teaches men to be beta so societies don’t destabilize. Women, at least the majority, are wired to hide the AF part of their strategy, and will keep feeding the betas lies and hiding their AF part of their sexual strategy; they don’t want to miss out on locking down a beta when they hit the wall.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 07:50 PM
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Above average guy here confirming
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 07:44 PM
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As a man who has had LTRs and ONSs before, let me assure I too gave up. I consider myself above average in SMV, but not high enough to justify all the effort to just get laid once or twice a year. Also, rejections take a toll on you, when failure rate is much higher than success rate. Giving up, gave me freedom. My life was occupied with improving myself and game for women, they were my source of validation. I haven’t given up totally on hookups, but definitely for LTRs. Any man who has self-res…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 09:41 PM
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I know this is a troll post, but it is really case by case dependent. Yes someone women do have sex with men that don’t meet the relationship standard in terms of looks. They want to have good sex while they search for Mr. Right. I’ve been used for sex by at least a couple of women. Shit hurts if you liked the woman and thought something more was developing. One of them was hiding under “dating”, as it turned out, so that she doesn’t count it as casual/make her seem like a slut, which I only fig…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 09:10 PM
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Gymceling does not help as much a lot of people think. Without drugs, best it improves SMV by one point, meaning going from skinny fat to muscular and 10-12% after 3-5 years of working out, only improves SMV by 1 point. If you have any handicap in dating, like ethnicity, height, etc, the gym is massive waste time. Do the minimum in the gym, get busy making money, and finding happiness outside of dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 01:48 AM
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Women lie about their preferences to protect the BB side of the dating strategy. This might be at a biological level.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 02:48 AM
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How are men benefiting from hookup culture when at least ~85% of them can’t get casual sex on any consistent basis? What are they benefiting from? Paying taxes for women to fuck chads and that end up being single moms? Or being in a beta bucks relationship after the woman retires from the cock carousel? How are women not benefiting from hookup culture? When they get to chase and fuck chads, knowing fully well they can lock down a beta any time they decide to hop off the cock carousel before they…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 02:23 PM
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So hook up culture and women implementing AF/BB isn’t treating men as a product and supporting a dangerous and harmful culture to men? The average man is being totally destroyed in todays dating world, it is not even funny. As a man who isn’t into going to prostitutes, I think OP is into something with him equating women engaging in hookup culture to men engaging in prostitution culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 12:02 PM
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It made my life worse when I didn’t have it internalized, when I was using it to make girls like me better. When I fully internalized it, which took experience and tremendous mental burden, the redpill made my life much better, it gave me back a lot of power and control over my life. Also, it provided me with crucial tools to navigating dating and to be aware when I am being played. I now don’t spend time and money dating women that are stringing me a long. Helped me develop boundaries and prote…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 10:25 PM
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This is becoming the standard response here on this subreddit, which is “I don’t see it in real life”. Well, I’ve seen it countless times. I’ve been used by women enough times, both for sex and for attention. And during that period of my life, I was obviously very blue pilled. I’ve seen those women that used me, with my own eyes, be chasing “chads”, literal chads, and the way they treated those chads was eye opening to say the least. I was definitely aware of this dynamic when I was in high scho…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 06:44 AM
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Confidence in any area in life is just a result of success in that specific area. A guy interacting with women confidently just means he is successful in the dating market. Hence, looks and confidence go hand in hand and are not independent dimensions. We can rely on looks alone for the sake of discussion, to make things easier, as confidence and looks are highly correlated and it is mostly a waste of time to separate the two.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 06:42 PM
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Believe me some women do. They like the power. Why do some women string a long a guy and make him wait, while fucking other guys? Do you think it doesn’t hurt more to be strung a long for 2 months? It happens all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 04:49 AM
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Well women have already achieved (or close to) their dream world. They have technology for them to satisfy their hypergamous urges to the maximum, have sex with top men not among a thousand guys, but top among millions. In addition, they have all the laws in their favor when it comes to marriage/divorce and a media full force backing them up.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 04:27 AM
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Well I was that guy. I liked a girl so much and turned out she was using me for sex. She wasn’t the hottest, but her attitude/personality were just the best I’ve come across. It hurt like a bitch when I knew she was just using for me sex or whatever. You don’t hear about this often because men don’t go around advertising that this happened to them like women do. Also, women using men for sex is less common than when genders are reversed. But I admit I was an emotional bitch at that moment, tough…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/21 04:04 AM
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Women are the ones who want to be sexualized, opposite to what they say or popular belief. However, they only want to be sexualized by high value men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 10:24 AM
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I do agree with the analysis here. But since OP is likely to be still in a state of high emotions, I recommend that he doesn’t blame himself for what happened. This was a big mistake I made when I first stumbled on TRP after being betafied, disrespected, played and cucked by a below average woman. This only grew my Oneitis, and since I was beta, I couldn’t maintain no contact after initially ghosting that bitch. What I’m trying to say here, from my experience, this is not the best time for OP to…
/r/askTRP21/06/21 04:09 AM
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Listen brother, first don’t blame yourself for what happened. That was a rookie mistake I made when I first stumbled on TRP. I was played hard by a woman who was at best HB4. She betafied me, disrespected me hard, and cucked me. I first ghosted and it was a natural “alpha” move. Then reading TRP for the first time after this experience, and not deleting her from all possible means of contact only grew my Oneitis, why? Because I blamed myself for her being a massive bitch and cucking me. I blamed…
/r/askTRP21/06/21 04:00 AM
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Even worse, they’ll shift the blame on you, hurt you, and make you the bad guy. Learned the very hard way.
/r/askTRP20/06/21 05:55 PM
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But why would she be sexually attracted to someone of lower value? This is against hypergamy, no? Or is it just for variety reasons?
/r/askTRP19/06/21 10:41 PM
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Agreed. This is no different than dating in general, if you’re not in the top 10%, you have to have the mental strength and frame that is much stronger than that of a top guy. But what I don’t understand, is that generally men can be sexually attracted to multiple women, while women are sexually hypergamous, how can she still be sexually attracted to you if the relationship is open and she is free to fuck other guys?
/r/askTRP19/06/21 08:10 PM
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I believe it is even higher percentile. Probably more like top 10% or 5%. And another issue is that with OLD and social media, a man has to be in the top percentile among millions of people. It is not the same as being the top in your class in high school or at work or some other groups, it is literally the top among a population. When I lived in smaller towns, guys that are not objectively of high value were still able to pull women and maybe even have a small rotation.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 06:31 PM
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Cutting/losing weight boils down to a calorie deficit..You can be doing all the BJJ in the world, and still not be in a calorie deficit if your intake is high enough..
/r/askTRP16/06/21 08:59 PM
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Exactly why the dating scene is fucked up. Most men are not good enough even for below average women.
/r/askTRP15/06/21 03:40 PM
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TRP needed a post like this. Enough with the “I’m spinning 5 plates”, “decided to promote a plate, she is submissive, cooks for me, ...”, ...the dating market is fucked up, and anyone who believes otherwise is a bluepill gullible guy. Get your dicks wet folks and watch out for the hoes out there.
/r/askTRP15/06/21 04:48 AM
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This reminds of a Russell Brand story where he developed an obsession with some Hollywood woman, can’t remember who she is. The guy has probably fucked thousands of women and still developed “onietis” for this chick. He went to a therapist to help cure his unhealthy obsession or Oneitis as we call it here. The therapist suggested he attached a picture of a fat woman’s body to his Oneitis’s face, lol.
/r/askTRP15/06/21 04:37 AM
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Get your mental health in check. I struggled with depression from age 17 and still do in my 30s. I didn’t know that it was depression, I thought it was normal. Depression will make you act beta that it is not funny. Really I have acted in ways that it is so beta that it is not even funny. It makes you mentally weak, needy and dependent. I had a good career, was in great shape, etc and nothing made me happy. Get professional help if you can. If it happened more than once in your lifetime, it is m…
/r/askTRP14/06/21 11:30 PM
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I was never cheated on before until the last woman I dated who betafied me and cucked me. Which made stumble on TRP. To add to that, I ghosted initially, but couldn’t maintain no contact due to depression/weak frame. Getting cheated on for the first time (at least that I’m aware of) was by far the worst experience ever. I too now have the same feelings like you towards LTRs, that I don’t want an LTR due to fear of getting cheated on. But I believe this kinda of thinking stems from a weak frame. …
/r/askTRP14/06/21 01:10 PM
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I see, yeah there was another comment on the thread that noticed my description of the guy sounded weird/homo. It seems I have some insecurity issues to work on, for example, you mentioned why I had to list his height. A lot of girls mentioned that I’m not tall enough, while I’m 5’10-5’11. They made it seem that being taller is very important in SMV.
/r/askTRP14/06/21 12:54 PM
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Yeah I thought it was weird too especially that he did it in front me and I didn’t know them too well. It was a bit awkward.
/r/askTRP14/06/21 12:45 PM
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He is taken
/r/askTRP14/06/21 08:45 AM
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Waiting for answers too, and I’m in my fucking 30s!! Went out with a supposedly “nice girl” after I was out of a 8 year LTR, and was bluepill af. Got betafied hard and cucked, ghosted the cheating bitch, but couldn’t maintain no contact as I had very bad case of Oneitis. I was in top shape, 170lbs 10-12% at 5’10. This lead me to TRP. I kept contacting her unintentionally every fucking month due to sickness and the last time was by mistake del her number, and she shit on me every time like no tom…
/r/askTRP14/06/21 01:57 AM
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As a man, being “betafied” hard after 3-4 sexless dates and shit on was by far the hardest thing to move on from. She asked indirectly for exclusivity to run and fuck another guy. I wasn’t TRP aware obviously, as I’m naturally the more relationship type guy. It took me longer to get over her and believe it or not couldn’t maintain no contact, longer than my ex of 8 years LTR. It is about how traumatizing the experience was, and how much baggage and learning you will carry from it moving forward.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 08:49 PM
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It will save you the mistake of randomly hitting up someone you don’t want to. Learned the hard way that it is the best course of action more often than not. For example, texting when in a weak moment under the influence or whatever. Even calling or texting by mistake.
/r/askTRP12/06/21 07:02 PM
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Having victim mentality will definitely radiate beta vibes. Been there, done that. Learned the hard way. This is the core of nice guy mentality, where you always put yourself in the prey mindset instead of predator. Get disciplined and on your purpose, and learn the harsh truth that on this earth, as a man, no one cares about you but you. People will take advantage of you if you let them, including your girlfriend. You are either the prey or the predator, be the predator.
/r/askTRP12/06/21 05:25 PM
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Right on man. Thanks for the uplifting talk. Being BP and naive can ruin some men’s lives. I’m relatively new to this sub and I really don’t understand why people shit on this sub, very supportive community, open minded and to my surprise not misogynistic or wanting to hurt women. It seems that teaching men to set boundaries is toxic masculinity or whatever label they want to give it.
/r/askTRP11/06/21 07:47 PM
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Refusing to take anti-depressants when I had severe depression, actually was the cause of all my bad sex drive and erections. Made my frame terrible, that I got shit on and played by HB4, and I couldn’t maintain no contact, due to how mentally weak I was. I think he needs to sort out his depression first and foremost or he will develop severe Oneitis like I do with every hoe. Women help elevate depression, and when they’re gone the withdrawal is so tough when you are depressed.
/r/askTRP10/06/21 09:21 PM
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Women that are big on traveling and exploring the world are generally attention whores or sloots. In my experience at least.
/r/askTRP09/06/21 04:37 AM
1

Better slam town bicycles than be the meal ticket for town bicycles.
/r/askTRP06/06/21 05:12 AM
1

When you are thinking about her, put all your mental energy into thinking about her negatives, both appearance and personality wise. Find something that you used to not like about her and focus on it, it will make you stop wanting to think about her. Just something to try. And also, it doesn’t hurt to think that she is a total slut, like all other women, that helps kill Oneitis too.
/r/askTRP06/06/21 04:58 AM
1

Reminds me of when a woman was using me, and she is at best a 4. I was bluepill af and had extreme Oneitis. She proceeds to cuck me, I ghost. Then several months down the road, I caught coronavirus, and it was somewhat severe. I was super weak and my beta self took over and I started texting her, she started making fun of me, and flipping the script that I’m an asshole and a player and all that garbage. It was eye opening to say the least, that even when I was really sick she took it as a chance…
/r/askTRP06/06/21 12:36 AM
1

The assumption isn’t so far from the truth. I was always very needy, possibly due to being raised by a controlling single mom. I learned that as a man you have to face death alone without asking for emotional support, that no one really cares. It’s the ultimate test of frame. This dramatic, though there could be some truth to it.
/r/askTRP05/06/21 06:27 PM
1

You shouldn’t care whether you went beta or not and how she thinks of you, you’re in her frame. You should asses whether whatever is going on aligns with your expectations and needs.
/r/askTRP04/06/21 06:06 AM
13

You can do like I did before learning about TRP, and text a girl who played you, after months down the road, and look like a total idiot. Do everything you can to not contact that bitch.
/r/askTRP03/06/21 10:30 PM
60

I know a lot of people will tell you it’s your insecurity about it that is showing and making women less attracted to you. However, like in every area in life, not everyone is cut to be at the top of a certain hierarchy, and it happens to be dating here. I feel you, and coming from someone who used to pull girls easy when younger, and not so much when older, it did fuck with my confidence and made me act like a total needy weirdo fool. I can assure you this way of thinking will only make things …
/r/askTRP29/05/21 06:10 PM
33

Men are always to blame for everything even when they can’t get dates, because it is acceptable to bash men and not women. If a woman is failing to lock down a man, then men are shallow and only care about looks. When man fails to get dates, the problem is in his personality, and not because women are as shallow and even more so than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 04:41 PM
1

I would actually send him there myself
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 08:16 PM
1

This is not a fair comparison and does not prove nor disprove that asshole behavior is more sexually attractive than nice guy behavior. To study whether asshole versus nice guy behavior is more sexually attractive, you need to control for physical attractiveness. From my understanding, nice guy behavior projects lower status, and the woman would feel that she could do better. Also, nice guy behavior shows softness and weakness.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 05:53 PM
2

Word. Thanks man.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 06:52 AM
4

Man, even lowering my standards, as a man of average height, a little above average face, full head of hair, make 6 figures, and at that time before giving up, had a great body with muscles and 10% BF worth 5 years of hard work, I still got strung along and shit on. This experience got me into severe depression, I couldn’t imagine a low value woman would play me for fools. It was the nail in the coffin. I got so attached to her that I kept unintentionally texting her after she cucked me, not bec…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/21 05:34 PM
1

How many men are in sexless marriages/beta bucks marriages, i.e., bad sex? Need to normalize for that too.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/21 04:38 AM
0

Women get turned on by asshole behavior because of hypergamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/21 03:51 AM
9

Are you trying to deny AF/BB?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/21 03:46 AM
6

I don’t see this as a woman issue only. Men also face the same issue with women putting on the “nice girl” persona, and lying about how much they like their men, just to get commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/21 08:24 PM
8

Great analogy there bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/21 04:11 PM
3

Ikr
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/21 03:24 AM
3

Just needs to shower more..
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/21 03:23 AM
2

He refuses to discuss with me, he is afraid that I would make him change his decision. So I don’t know for sure what he stated as his reason for divorce. But my guesses should be pretty solid guesses from what I have discussed and argued with him when I first introduced him to TRP; he was so focused on how him and his wife first started dating. Also, I over read one of the texts his wife sent him recently where she was explaining to him what happened when they started dating, and all that crap, …
/r/askTRP29/03/21 10:59 AM
2

No, she doesn’t use him as beta bucks. I actually spent quiet some time with them after I moved closer to where they live. She contributes financially a good amount and she isn’t demanding. She cooks, but she doesn’t clean from what’ve seen lol. And she never withholds sex from him. But I believe he is hung up on how the relationship started and that he might have been the fall back beta bucks guy in TRPs framework. I think it’s more of a self-respect/pride/insecurity thing of wanting to come ou…
/r/askTRP29/03/21 10:13 AM
0

I see your point. This definitely a major step towards becoming redpilled. Asking for divorce takes balls. My only issue is that he seems to have the power in the relationship or at least they’re at equal level of power. I’m not necessarily against him asking for divorce. I actually did advice him, though lightly, before him getting married, that it isn’t necessary to get married. But at the time, I knew about TRP and he didn’t. He was strongly in favor of marriage. He actually got married witho…
/r/askTRP29/03/21 09:53 AM
2

They don’t have kids. It is a display of higher value, but I don’t believe that’s his intention. He isn’t trying to gain back power or anything like that, he seems to have more power in the relationship, or at the least they’re equal in power. I believe his main issue is with how they started dating (9 years ago) and that he believe he was the beta bucks guy in the equation. That she was still seeing other guys, months into them starting seeing each other’s and before he asked her to be his gf, …
/r/askTRP29/03/21 09:38 AM
1

It’s crazy and sad, but can be true.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/21 11:15 PM
2

To be honest Redpill wasn’t a specific moment. I kept fucking up with women, and I couldn’t understand why. My line of thinking was if a girl is out on date with me that means she likes me, and if she says something, she actually means it. That if I showed that I’m interested long term they would appreciate me more. All that garbage beta stuff. My mental state kept getting worse and worse. Then, last dating experience, which I couldn’t get over, I couldn’t imagine that a woman worked so hard to …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/21 08:48 AM
3

How old are you if you don’t mind me asking? I never understood the 30 thing either until a couple of years into my thirties. Women between 18-25 are just so much more attractive to me now. I never thought that that would be case when I was younger. It got to a point where I put an age limit to women I date of 27. I found myself wasting time going on dates with women older. It’s not just the number, if she is 30+ and looks young/hot, I’m ok with that. Likewise, if she is 25, but looks old, then …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/21 08:22 AM
1

Woman in your Instagram example doesn’t arouse me. She lacks the nice taper in the legs, and lacks some hips or that hip to leg curve, I don’t know how to describe, but her ass isn’t round on the sides. She just looks thick with no tapering, more masculine type of thick. Also, I don’t like long torsos. To each his own, I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/21 08:08 PM
8

Young women that struggle to find men to date are such a small minority. In fact, LVW are talked about a lot here, and they’re called post wall women. But the topic of LVW isn’t as interesting as talking about LVM for several reasons. Men can be top 30 percentile, and still struggle immensely in dating, which is explained by the sexually hypergamous nature of women. Also, women and society in general tend to sugar coat women’s hypergamous and how important looks are to women, by telling men “jus…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/21 07:14 PM
1

I didn’t exactly list anything about myself that is actually top 20%, did I? Except maybe how in shape I was and money. Basically my height and face are not top 20%. That was my point. Even if my face is above average and I’m little above average in height, no matter what I do, I’m at best a second choice option for average women. I bet if my face and height were below average, then I won’t even be considered a second choice. I’m at best “beta bucks” as per TRP framework. You’re actually right t…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/21 05:41 PM
0

I’m above average in face, make well beyond 6 figures, average height, and worked out hard for 5 years, got in great shape (I also have a good V shape structure) and cut down to 10%. Guess what? I always ended up at best being strung along as a second choice, even when lowering my standards. That’s the best I could do with 4-6 women in their twenties. I’m in my thirties now, but I don’t recall it was as hard 10 years ago. It could be that social media and OLD has made women’s standards insanely …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 06:33 AM
3

I am not an expert on sexual attractiveness science, but I like to believe that attractiveness is more quantifiable than it is not. Some features can be more easily/readily quantified, and that’s why they’re frequently thrown around when trying to make a point, like height. I’m sure there’s some literature that derives metrics on what makes a face attractive, and the metrics would be validated in studies. It’s not hard to deduce metrics that would measure how symmetrical a face and how strong ve…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/21 09:06 PM
3

I don’t necessarily think of it as 80/20. You can deduce the “top 20%” threshold for attractiveness from the normal (Gaussian) distribution; truncated normal distribution to be more accurate, since for example height can’t be negative, it has to be above 0. The “top 20%” comes from the fact that average isn’t attractive to women. In order for something to be considered “not average”, it has to be at least one standard deviation above average. Assuming a normal distribution, that would be the poi…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/21 07:37 PM
3

I was in the same situation as you. I was at a very low point due to dating and lost all purpose. I couldn’t find any goal that is worth being my main mission. One day I decided to set my goal to make as much money as possible, which is not the most meaningful goal. But it actually worked to get me out of the rot. Then I eventually found myself finding an actual meaningful goal along the way. It made me believe that setting money as the main goal is a fallback goal that works when I’m out of pur…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 06:29 PM
13

You nailed it with this comment. This actually explained my situation to me better than I could do myself. I worked out hard for 4-5 years, got in a really good shape, and cut down to 10% body fat. I make well beyond 6 figures. My face is above average, I’m 5’10-5’11. But I still faced rejection even when lowering my standards. Depression and social anxiety just kept worse, and eventually I became super needy with women and made a fool out of myself. I unintentionally dropped out of the sexual m…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 05:27 PM
2

Your description about how the experience fucked up your mental health and caused you trauma, hit home really well. I went out with a foreign woman from a supposedly more conservative country. I’m naturally the nice guy of the dating world, or what is commonly described here as beta. All the time I’m dating her thinking she is a “nice girl”, from how she acted and how she was pushing for commitment early on. Turns out she was fucking other guys all a long while I take here on nice dates and we w…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/21 05:11 AM
13

I agree that trp doesn’t help you attract women. However, in my opinion TRP is more of a defense mechanism, helps you identify signs of disinterest, shittests, manipulation, exploitation, female behavior in general. Helps avoid Oneitis. Oneitis is hell, and makes you do dumb shit that you will regret your entire life. TRP isn’t easy, and needs to be internalized. But will help you maintain your self respect and not be shit on. But it won’t help you attract women, maybe better maintain them, but …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/21 06:56 AM
1

Not always the simp is to blame. I went out with a woman from OLD after the end of a long term relationship. She would “force” me to simp, using all kinds of mind games, as I don’t easily simp. I figured this out after rereading the text thread. She would do everything in her power, which is manipulation and games, to make me simp. If I did something that any normal person would do, like helping carry extra stuff on our date, she would insist that I did that for her, and that I’m basically simpi…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/21 06:52 AM
1

This x1000. I had to learn the hard way not to confront a woman if she was using me or if cheats or any bad behavior for that matter. They never admit it and even worse they flip the script on me to make me appear like the asshole. If Redpill taught me anything, is to ghost a girl when she does scummy things, almost every time I’ve confronted them in my bluepill days, they flipped the script on me so that I come out as the bad guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/20 10:03 AM
2

This is the only part of the red pill that I don’t understand. “If she doesn’t fuck you by the first date, then she doesn’t like you” and then “If she fucks on the first date, she is a slut”. “If she has a high n-count, she is a slut” followed by “if she doesn’t fuck you early on, she doesn’t like you”. Choose one guys. It seems you guys want a virgin who fucks on the first date. I’m in the camp of trying to avoid LTRs as much as possible because 80-90% women are sluts, similar to how 80-90% of …
/r/askTRP15/10/20 04:50 AM
1

What do you mean you lead? I would suggest something, and her code for sexless date was “let’s do something fun!!” Lol. She would manipulate the shit out of me before trying to change my suggestion.
/r/askTRP15/09/20 06:56 AM
1

Before TRP, one girl that was making me her orbiter, knew she can manipulate me and control me. Generally, I like to the lead, but I didn’t know about intersexual power play. She was trying hard to take the lead and control me. She kept shittesting, and I was naturally passing shittests, though I agreed to sexless dates (I was bluepill). In person, I was passing shittests easy. But over text, and I wasn’t aware until rereading her texts. She kept shittesting and I was passing them, until she bec…
/r/askTRP15/09/20 06:12 AM
3

Should using someone in general be illegal? I’ve been used for both sex and for meals/attention. Both felt terribly bad, because I liked the women, but the latter felt more insulting.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/20 03:30 PM
6

I totally agree. Women forced me to withdraw from relationships all together. I get strung a long by women 2 or 3 point below me in terms of looks. They’re all chasing the top tier men, and a man that isn’t in the top 10%, is never going to be a woman’s top option sexually. I wasn’t aware of what was going on with every woman I dated, found TRP, and it all clicked. TRP made me realize that I’d rather withdraw from relationships all together. If I get my dick wet from time to time I’m happy. But …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/20 10:17 AM
7

Marriage? What’s in it for a man. I’m naturally a man who likes relationships, but with this fucked up shitshow of a dating market, I don’t even want a relationship. Hypergamy is in full force nowadays, the next better option is just a swipe away. I even get strung along by women at least 2 points below me in looks. If I can get sex from time to time, I’m happy. But since I’m not in the top tier of men, I know that being in a relationship means the woman is just settling for me sexually because …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/20 10:06 AM
2

4 and 6 is a vast difference. For example, ~5.5 is average, 6.5 is 85%ile.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 10:28 AM
16

Cheating is a low act, regardless whether her man is beta or alpha.
/r/askTRP10/08/20 11:39 AM
1

If she is gaming you/consciously manipulating, does that mean you should next? Or there is at least some interest there that can increase if you have game?
/r/askTRP08/08/20 10:37 PM
1

Thanks for the reply. I see what you mean, that TRP is primarily focused on achieving AF. What I meant by beta fucks, is when you are fucking a woman that doesn’t want a relationship with you or thinks you are not high value enough, for example, her secret FB or FWB.
/r/askTRP31/07/20 09:46 AM
1

Exactly, for me, it helps me learn how to set boundaries.
/r/askTRP31/07/20 06:37 AM
4

Yes, I sent an outwardly angry text one time and learned quickly that it is very low value (or beta). Also shows too much investment.
/r/askTRP31/07/20 06:36 AM
2

I agree that they operate in the moment, more so than men. But from my experience, women remember every little detail of every date/text they had with you. So “once a beta, always a beta” holds some truth, even if they operate in the moment. For example, if you started off as a beta, and then try to become alpha, she will just think you’re being an asshole, and not genuinely alpha.
/r/askTRP15/03/20 01:36 AM
2

You’re right. I should just move on. I don’t really think about the girl herself, but more about how “beta” I was.
/r/askTRP08/03/20 07:32 AM
3

“Beta baiting” is real. I started using OLD after a long relationship ended. I was really naive. I didn’t know that women will show interest in “relationshipy” stuff as a bait. Took me a while to understand why I would always end up being plan B or BB. Thanks to reading around TRP subreddit, I avoided being BB and didn’t cave in after multiple of attempts to try and get me back. I just want to have fun, and those women are all about power games and control.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/20 01:27 PM
1

I wish being bluepilled worked. My first experience dating after my past LTR ended, I was bluepilled af, and got strung a long by a girl who is at least 2 points lower than me in terms of looks. She put me as backup beta bucks guy because of my “nice guy” bluepill mindset. I cut her off after she tried to come back, thanks to TRP, because I didn’t want to be in a beta bucks relationship. I don’t think TRP is immoral. TRP doesn’t advocate cheating for example or lying. TRP helps men get their nee…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/20 11:34 AM
1

The point I was making is that it is not only about looks. You can be higher than the girl in terms of looks, but if your game is so weak, and you’re bluepilled, you present or sell yourself as a lower SMV guy than you actually are.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/20 11:09 AM
10

Talking from experience here, opening up and pouring your emotions and struggles will create this strong nice connection with your girlfriend, but just at first. After some time passes, this will come and bite you in the ass, because it will just be a burden on your girlfriend and she will start to feel like she has to be the strong person in the relationship that you two have to rely on, and it will be overwhelming on her and also very unattractive to her. Eventually, she will break up with you…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 07:31 AM
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