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Debatenachtpfauenauge2/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 11:03 AM
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""would you go out with me?" or you can ask a woman out in a dominant way "we are going out tonight"" Both are a dominant act. And the second would still work on a ton of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 03:12 PM
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By your definition, assertiveness in that situation is a dominant act. Because the man is seeking to control and lead the situation (into a starting a conversation and hopefully a relationship with the woman). Women who want the man to approach first which is what most of them prefer are literally waiting for the man to take the lead.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 02:49 PM
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dominance noun [ U ] - the quality of being more important, strong, or successful than anything else of the same type - the action of taking control of other people or animals in a forceful way, or the quality of liking to do this Basically: powerful, succesful, assertive, controlling (to an extent), forward, leading.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 02:47 PM
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"Assertiveness is not the same as dominant." Yes it absolutely is. An assertive man will just walk up to a woman and chat her up. That's a dominant act, while not strictly sexual. A shy man won't approach and hope she will make a move. By nature, the assertive man will have more success. Most women will say that a man who goes with the flow and wants others to lead him doesn't sound attractive because that reminds them of being his mom. The man in a relationship who doesn't say he wants pizza wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 02:42 PM
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"and yet there's plenty of non dominant men who are in relationships" In relation to what? From my experience, most men I've known who don't fall into the typical assertive male role have a really hard time in dating. I can tell from my own experience as a man, I get wayyyyy more attention and success when I try to play more dominant rather than submissive. Most women are turned off by submissive men. When women read erotica, it's mostly about dominant vampire daddies for a reason. "average man …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 02:24 PM
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One does not need to cite history to conclude that most women prefer men who are dominant leaders that take charge - most women say this themselves. Hence the burden of approaching first is always on men. No woman has ever said that she likes passive men who don't take charge. And why not? It's convenient.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 01:59 PM
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There's a movie about that in real life called 'Dog Day Afternoon' and it paints a quite different and not very romantic picture
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 02:31 PM
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So to summarize, I just need to be a 535 year old even more powerful fairy lord, play the morally grey, dangerous, arrogant bad boy and endure horrific abuse for 50 years in order to protect my people, wait for another fairy lord to kidnap a 19 year old into the fantasy world that I live in, help said 19 year old girl overcome her PTSD, share my own trauma to her and then she will fall in love with me? Is it really that easy? (also, in the first book it's not yet revealed that Rhys is heroic.)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 02:21 PM
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Doesn't really change that he's the romantic interest in the first book and it ends with them having a romantic ending.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 02:12 PM
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Only in the later books. The first book also tells us getting your love interest killed is OK as long as you can revive her with magic.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 01:57 PM
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So after reading ACOTAR, I realize I just have to become a magical fairy lord and kidnap a 19 year old girl into my fantasy land where she will slowly fall in love with me? Is it really that easy?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 01:20 PM
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I have explained to you in detail why, you can't actually explain why this is a societal issue and you say you don't have an AI girlfriend so you are not affected at all. I have no idea why you are so mad.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 07:11 AM
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And I have a right to tell you that your opinion is stupid, pointless and hurting yourself since you can't back it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 07:08 AM
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So you agree that you yourself should stop caring.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 07:06 AM
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I don't think your stance on this subject is a societal issue, so yeah I am not wasting much energy or happiness. You, however, will continue to be bothered about the fact that this telegraph article exists. You think someones opinion on AI relationships is a societal issue even though you can't explain why or how it even effects you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 06:56 AM
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I did. That's the reason why I care.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 06:17 AM
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You might be happier once you realize that you are wasting your energy and move on to better things
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 06:04 AM
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And you are wasting your energy
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 05:51 AM
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There is such a thing as freedom of speech and freedom of opinion though, people disapproving of AI relationships is not a societal issue
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 05:50 AM
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Then why do you care?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 10:48 PM
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People are allowed to have freedom of speech and opinion, yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 10:48 PM
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Again, why do you need everyone to approve of your AI relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 05:16 PM
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In what way is peoples opinion about your AI gf a societal problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 05:15 PM
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I don't really care because how I live my life is not others business. Why do you care whether a journo hack who works at Telegraph approves of your AI girl friend?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 04:52 PM
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It's clearly bothering him. I'm just saying, if you care less about what other people think about your life choices you will probably lead a happier life.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 04:48 PM
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Website bans are pretty much useless since they can be easily circumvented, just look at Library Genesis. You can also just use AI technology to build your virtual gf at home so you don't need a website. Also... your claim is that people somehow hate your independence as a man because of two hack journo articles. I think most people don't really care.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 04:46 PM
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They won't be able to ban AI, literally everybody uses it now, it's like trying to ban Amazon or Google. Again, why do you care about what people think of your independence. Those peoples opinions should not concern you.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 04:00 PM
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Maybe they will change their perspective and live a happier life knowing that it doesn't really matter what some journo hack thinks about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 03:55 PM
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I mean, why do you care? You can still just chat with your AI girlfriend if you want, it's not like people can detect it or do anything about it. This reminds me of when people were saying that violent video games would turn teenage boys into serial killers, typical media fear mongering as always.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 03:51 PM
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The articles above are all written by women. Why do you think women don't care about other womens mental health?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 03:48 PM
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I find the assumption ridiculous that men work out only for the male gaze. When I was hitting the gym hard and grew my hair out to look like a viking, the attention I got from women increased tenfold. Also, the main motivation to work out should be health and functionality, not to impress people. Furthermore, many men harbor the fantasy of connecting over a woman through shared interests, passions etc. e.g. having a gf to play video games with.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 03:49 PM
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Most women wanna be the submissive one, in my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 06:35 PM
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That really sucks for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 12:24 PM
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If you need a boyfriend to impress your friends, maybe you should just get a designer handbag instead? And if your friends think that your boyfriend is 'unimpressive' because he is autistic or something and would judge you for dating him, that kinda sounds like your friends are jerks.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 12:15 PM
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Men have always had deep emotional friendships with each other. The entire human history basically revolved around this: starting from humanities oldest written story, The Epic of Gilgamesch, to Jesus and his disciples, to King Arthur and his knights, Ismael and Queequeg in Moby Dick, to the various philosophers, up to 2000s popular entertainment with it's bromances like JD and Turk from Scrubs. The lack of intimacy and deep Talk is not something that only affects men, it also effects women. It'…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 04:19 PM
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You are comparing two completely different statistics by comparing mothers to the general male population. Men 18 and above includes everyone from kids who are still in school to your retired 80 year old grandpa. If you look at women above 18, about 60% of them are in the workforce. And looking at fathers, around 90% are in the workforce! Just looking at men in their prime, from age 25 to 55 you will also find 90% of them are working. So however you want to twist it, your claim does not hold.Whe…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 09:37 AM
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There absolutely are women who would be aroused by that random naked man lol. I've had women tell me that they get aroused when a man takes coins out of his purse because manhands are hot. Hell I've had women tell me the way I was holding a milkbottle was hot. Women are way more into the male body than people will admit.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 07:44 AM
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Well getting a gf definitely fixed the 'I'm unlovable to women' for me once and for all. I mean that's the kinda hard evidence that's hard to deny. Being unhappy with a potential love interest because you think she's tricking you is a different conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 06:57 PM
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You can have friends and still be lonely, miserable and convinced that women can't love you, in fact that just kinda rubs it in more when you're the one single guy in the friend group
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 04:23 PM
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"All of which can be addressed by other forms of social connection. " But as OP said, there are plenty people who do have other forms of social connection and still feel the need to have a romantic connection. Which is a valid need, according to Maslow.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 01:58 PM
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Well, feeling unloved, loneliness, stressful life circumstances etc. are all pretty common reason for depression, for starters.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 01:52 PM
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It's not AI, it's the summary from my textbook, which summarizes the original publication, Abraham Maslow: A Theory of Human Motivation. In: Psychological Review. 1943, Vol. 50 #4, page 381.) I made the highlights to show that romantic love and affection are a need. There's no reduction here, one can have love and belonging through friendship and still feel depressed due to the absence of romantic love because the two are not the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 01:35 PM
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There's no 'reducing'. The first poster literally talked about people who have friends and a life and still miss love and romance. "Humans have a strong drive for social relationships (the affiliation motive). This includes, among other things, family, friendship, group affiliation or a sense of belonging, communication, social exchange, community, mutual support, relationships, affection, love, and sexual intimacy. The absence of friends, a loved one, a life partner, or children will be a stron…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 01:20 PM
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Yes you did keep moving the goalposts, you kept trying to make it about 'do humans die if they lack x' when that was never the original point, even though your own position does not stand up to that level of scrutiny, I never said humans die immediately when they don't have romance, that's something you kept trying to force even though it has nothing to do with the debate at hand.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 11:53 AM
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Well, I am glad you have stopped moving the goal posts at least. "citing Maslow does not prove that romance is a need on the same level as food or water" And I never claimed such a thing, I said romance is a basic need, which is true as evidenced by the fact most humans seek it out by nature. "At most it shows that love and belonging matter for wellbeing, which nobody denied" You were all the time talking about how as long as you don't immediately die, it's not a need. So according to your own l…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 11:29 AM
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"You compared romance to food and water. Those were your words" Yes, because they are both listed in Maslows hierarchy as NEEDS. That's why I said romance is a need. There's no squirming needed here, you are the one who is squirming by trying to make this about physically breaking down and dying, when it was not about that in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 10:17 AM
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I don't have to prove that because it was never about dying, it was about being depressed/overall life quality, no matter how many times you try to move the goalposts to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 09:42 AM
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Okay, so now you have moved the goalposts from 'need' to 'necesseties'. I said 'need' because thats how it's listed in Maslows hierarchy of needs, just like food and shelter, and these things are needs for a persons wellbeing. Yes, you don't immediately die if you don't get romance, just like you also don't immediately die if you drink lead poisoned water or are in a state of starvation.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 09:13 AM
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Because humans have more needs than physical, which is something that is universally agreed on in psychology, sociology, even economics etc. You yourself are literally argueing that humans need community, purpose, so idk why you have such a problem with admitting that romance is a need too even though almost all humans seek it out.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 08:47 AM
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Again, there are people who get by living as hobos, so by your logic shelter is not a need either. Also I never said it's a survival necessity, that's all on you, however there is a difference between surviving and thriving, you may be able to live in a war prisoner camp and eat rice and survive for a shockingly long time because humans are insanely durable, that doesn't mean it will be a good time. Just like that people who are chronically single usually live shorter and unhappier lives, in fac…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 08:36 AM
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There are also many people who chainsmoke and drink and live long lives without having trouble. We still know that smoking and drinking is generally bad for you. If what you're saying was true, then almost nobody would enter romantic relationships, but instead the opposite is true, people who never enter relationships are incredibly rare, because humans typically have an in-built need for romantic relationships. You can call it lazy to cite Maslow but at least I'm citing something. Here's anothe…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 08:26 AM
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There are also many people who choose to live life as hobos, peddling drugs, eating slop every day, or doing cocaine and report happiness, if you zoom out far enough you can always find some counter example. People who never enter a relationship are incredibly rare, we know that not having love and intimacy is as bad for your health as smoking, drinking and eating crap and people in happy relationships are usually better off than long term singles, not just when it comes to self reporter happine…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 08:12 AM
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Romance and intimacy are a need, thats why they are apart of Maslows hierarchy of NEEDS, and other psychological models. Intimacy that you pay for is not real intimacy, by the way, and cannot replace a genuine human connection.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 06:01 AM
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Romance and intimacy are a basic need, so it's valid to be depressed if you don't have it. It's like saying you should just learn to be okay without having food or shelter.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 04:48 AM
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You say to replace the need for a romantic partner with other things, but then you just create a dependency on those other things instead. What If you lose those things? Then you are down with nothing. There's a reason almost everyone ends up getting a partner at one point and would be incredibly sad if they lost their partner. Romantic relationships are simply a basic need for most people and saying you can live a life without romance and intimacy is like saying you can live life without having…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 04:37 AM
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The experience of ftm men is often that they are more excluded as soon as they fully pass as male, especially by their queer and liberal buddies who see them as having switched sides to become the oppressor, let alone their struggle to be seen as men and not just as quirky damaged girls As far as trans women go they have their own word for this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cotton_ceiling In any case the experience of trans people is hardly indicative of the cis experience because they usually f…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 05:49 AM
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It's not pedantry to expose the obvious flaws in someones logic. The fact you are just throwing insults because you can't handle a normal debate just tells me that you are projecting with your own accusations.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 07:48 AM
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You said 'male anatomy'. Ftms take testosterone so they develop a male anatomy. It's not clear why one would equate male anatomy to genitalia specifically. Like, if a full grown man with a beard and everything lost his genitalia due to testicular cancer or an accident, nobody would suddenly start saying that he now has a 'female anatomy'. Besides, ftms can use prosthetics so the point is really moot. Saying 'I wouldn't date an ftm because I like male anatomy' sounds like 'I don't like cats becau…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 07:26 AM
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The things you mentioned don't make you develop male characteristics, but testosterone does exactly that. You're just equating completely different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 07:22 AM
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That's not pedantry, it's just taking your logic to its conclusion. It's called the Socratic method. You also failed to adress the argument. Because the exact same thing that you said applys to ftms also applies to such men. Also, ftms do have prosthetics and such and lesbians seem to do just fine without dick and balls too.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 07:21 AM
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You didn't clarify anything at all you just started throwing insults.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 09:35 PM
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I'm curious to know why you think female to MALE transgender people don't have a MALE anatomy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 09:32 PM
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So a man who loses his penis through an accident or cancer or has a micropenis is no longer a man? This is wild news.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 09:31 PM
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I didn't know e.coli and chicken nuggest make you grow a beard.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 09:30 PM
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You didn't say 'cis male bodies' you said 'male anatomy'. Which is what testosterone creates. How do you think cis men get their bodies? Through testosterone.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 09:29 PM
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E.coli, hip implants and Chicken Nuggets don't significantly alter your bodies biochemistry, hormones do.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 06:07 PM
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I mean yeah, taking male hormones makes you grow a beard, more hairy and muscular and more masculine in general. Those people also usually get surgery to get their breasts removed and all that. I would say that classifies as a male anatomy. I've certainly never seen a woman with a full on beard and muscles like ftm men have. Like if you saw a regular man only to find out he had a chromosomal disorder that makes him technically female even when he otherwise looks, speaks and acts fully masculine …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 10:46 AM
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I mean yeah, taking male hormones makes you grow a beard, more hairy and muscular and more masculine in general. Those people also usually get surgery to get their breasts removed and all that. I would say that classifies as a male anatomy. I've certainly never seen a woman with a full on beard and muscles like ftm men have. Like if you saw a regular man only to find out he had a chromosomal disorder that makes him technically female even when he otherwise looks, speaks and acts fully masculine …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 10:45 AM
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But they take male hormones, so they have a male anatomy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 05:42 AM
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And that definition says nothing about seeking a job, you can be seeking a job and still be a NEET. You don't even understand your own definition
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 09:28 AM
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"How do you envision helping someone who considers having to do work “oppression”?" By fixing the job market? Right now, people are working more than ever for less. My dad was able to buy a house, a car, and feed his wife and 4 kids with a single working class income. Not possible anymore for most people. More than half of Americans are now living paycheck to paycheck. There are people working full time jobs who are forced to still live with their parents because their wage doesn't even pay a li…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 08:38 AM
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So you don't even understand the definition of what you are talking about, great
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 08:33 AM
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NEET = Not in employment or training Not being able to get a job makes you unemployed and therefore a NEET
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 08:33 AM
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The job market is terrible right now, there's people with a masters degree who can't get a job and this is not a new situation... I can attest that if you have any kind of gap in your resume even getting hired at a warehouse or McDonald's will be tough let alone if you have mental health problems. If you can't get a job or afford school then yes that is not a choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 08:18 AM
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So what if you've done all that jazz? Do you get to complain then? Because I've gone to the gym for years, practised style, touched grass and talked to a variety of people and I found all this cookie cutter self improvement advice doesn't really work. Talking to women just made me realize how unattractive and genetically defective I am compared to the normal men even while putting in ten times the effort. Just leads to burnout, disappointment and a lot of frustration. It's like saying 'well you …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 06:30 AM
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Yes, men of all creeds and nations have always gotten into relationships and procreated. We're talking about a specific aesthetic (K-Pop) though which did not become popular at all until it was deliberately marketed.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 03:50 PM
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Shrek is not a romance, it's a deliberate spoof on tropes and cliches 'It's almost like what most people find attractive isn't just about media and popular culture tropes.' It absolutely is, just look at the explosion of the popularity of K-Pop singers. Their aesthetic had existed before in the Japanese market but it was a niche interest globally, the Koreans aggressively marketed their products worldwide causing their popularity to explode.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 03:38 PM
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"i want's pro or against deconstructing gender norms."" <- literally you in the previous reply.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 03:33 PM
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You wanted pros of deconstructing gender norms, so I gave you one.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 03:21 PM
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Well, I'm in favour of deconstructing gender norms, since I'm an elvish twink who gets mistaken for a girl frequently, so deconstructing gender norms helps me being seen as more manly.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 03:07 PM
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If you want to deconstruct gender norms you also have to deconstruct what's attractive. Why are women generally attracted to tall, lean, bold men with financial security, clear skin and full heads of hairs? Clearly this is due to outdated notions of gender normativity that frame the man as the powerful one and the woman as his subjugate. As such, we need to start replacing Disney princes and male leads in romance novels with short, fat, bald guys to combat these harmful expectations.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 02:58 PM
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Why is every single answer of yours a strawman. Nobody said to bring up constant arguments and nitpicking. The original point was about the wage gap and thats a pretty fundamental disagreement in values. That is the kind of thing you have to bring up early in order to figure out If you're compatible long term. The internet ist full of stories of people feeling cheated when their partner reveals they were hiding their true values early on. Also I don't know about you but I hang around people that…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 08:03 PM
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So ist being able to handle being corrected and disagreed with. Nobody said to escalate the disagreement to a heated debate
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 05:28 PM
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No they are telling you that you are wrong about something and you should reconsider your view. That is what friends and normal people do all the time. If someone doesn't even care about you enough to correct you when you are wrong wtf are you doing being in a relationship with someone like that. Do you seriously want your partner to just placate you and never disagree with you? Wtf man.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 05:27 PM
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"if you’re think “not arguing with them” is impossible. " Not what I said You shouldn't be on a date with someone who can't handle mild disagreement because that person is not a mature adult If someone says something that's demonstrably wrong and they can't handle being corrected then that is I sure sign that something is wrong and a relationship with them would be a terrible idea "Because any relationship built on that foundation will produce a horrible relationship" People in healthy relations…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 04:34 PM
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This has to be some of the worst advice I've ever heard What you gonna do, just dance around and ignore reality to placate another person? Being able to handle disagreement and arguments is crucial to being a mature responsible person. What you gonna do when your wife is pregant and she starts smoking and drinking beer? Not tell her that this is a bad idea because disagreement might upset her? Being dishonest with someone is a terrible way to start a relationship. And being dishonest in order to…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 04:19 PM
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They just say that to demean anyone who doesn't get dates as 'not normal'
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 02:55 PM
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If you have to a bribe a woman into liking you by paying for her meals, you've already lost.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 07:34 PM
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Because it's funny
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 01:07 PM
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I concern myself with things that affect me. Politics affect me. Other peoples sexual preference doesn't affect me.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 01:05 PM
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Why do you concern yourself with the sexuality of men who aren't your boyfriend?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 12:57 PM
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Sounds like an issue between you and your boyfriend then. I suggest couples therapy
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 12:56 PM
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Then what are you complaining about
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 12:53 PM
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Good, then let's wait until then
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 12:50 PM
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>men are attracted to women who are the most fertile, healthy and beautiful >this is somehow antisocial Be honest: would you want to have sex with a hunchbacked, obese 60 year old nobel prize winner who has a great personality? I don't think you would.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 12:41 PM
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Girls go crazy for the mommy bf tho
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 10:10 AM
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A woman having a heart and caring for you in a relationship is not playing mommy. It's the part where you have to do things for your partner that a capable adult should be able to do on their own that is the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 09:40 AM
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'Plenty of', really? From my experience submissive men looking for that dynamic outnumber the women by like 10:1. Even progressive/feminist/alternative women mostly still want a conventional dominant man.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 06:00 PM
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Happy with a partner that I met online.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 09:29 PM
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No I explained what works for me and what doesn't. Where do you see whining? "These are both in person activities." Meet a person online, then meet up IRL. Works for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 07:58 PM
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It's just my experience of following the 'just put urself out there bro' advice for years and finding little success and having much better success online.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 07:54 PM
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"If you want to have people in your life, you have to find the people." And this is extremely hard in real life and very easy online. "You are mistakenly assuming that the only people who will be in such environments are people who are dedicated extroverts, love socializing, and are in their element there" In my experience it's mostly people like that. And to those who are also leaning introverted, it's very hard to connect because they too feel unwell. What it sounds like to me is that you are …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 07:15 PM
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Hey, I appreciate the kindness, don't worry, I am doing just fine and I hope you are doing fine too, I didn't mean to put you down, that's just kind of how you sound to me. I wish the best for you <3
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 06:17 PM
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That is literally not what I said - I don't mention women in my post at all, as a ctrl +f search will tell you, it literally says 'ugly person' in my post, not 'ugly man'. What I talked about is simply societies general attitude towards ugly people which comes from both women and men as it has been widely proven, and also discussed as any ugly woman can tell you, society is not very nice to ugly women either. But keep fighting those strawmen, I am sure you will get them eventually.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 06:03 PM
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Eh, I've gotten clients by myself. I like my boss doing it for me because I'm lazy. Your description of the networking event is exactly why I have no interest in climbing the corporate ladder or playing that game.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 05:59 PM
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I find it amazing that you immediately default to something about redpill and demonizing women when I just talked about feeling stigmatized for my skin disease by general society which is a pretty widespread experience and reported by both men and women who suffer from these problems. Why are you fighting these strawmen, what have they done to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 05:41 PM
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"Echo chambers are bad because they trap people in one-sided views, reinforce misinformation, and discourage critical thinking." Making friends with people who share values with you is not an echo chamber. An echo chamber would be a site like Reddit, where different and unpopular views are voted out of sight or just outright banned. Me not associating with the basic bitch that I have nothing in common with and instead talking to an online friend about our shared passions is not an echo chamber. …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 05:24 PM
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'I think you might be trying to move friendship too fast.' Nah I'm a rather slow mover when it comes to that. 'but deeper conversations can be had later on' If they are open to it. Often people are not because they are not looking for that in the first place. Going to some hobby group looking for a deep connection is like looking for the love of your life at the swinger club, it's missing the point. This is not some niche thing, it's a pretty wide social thing. Many people report struggling to f…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 05:18 PM
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Yes, and what's wrong with that? Would you want to be friends with someone who has completely different opinions from you, like, say, a Trump supporter? I don't think you would tolerate that. We all want to be friends with people who we share values and viewpoints with that we feel understood by. Besides, I made this post to hear some different opinions, so that kind of defeats your point.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 05:07 PM
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I'm not autistic, I'm more schizoid I just have some autistic traits. That said, I appreciate you being one of the few people in this comment section who actually addressed something in my post.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 04:58 PM
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Believe me, I've engaged in plenty of socializing to come to this conclusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 04:57 PM
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Yes, because of my neurodivergence, hence why I said 'especially if you are neurodivergent'. It's also overrated for the other reasons I outlined in my post.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 04:51 PM
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Yeah? I never said to never interact IRL.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 04:50 PM
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I have a spouse and we see IRL. Yes, I've been through therapy, counseling, rehab, hardcore exposure etc. The verdict is still the same, socializing drains me and will never be pleasant with the vast majority of humans. That's because I have a faulty brain that can't be converted to a normal regular brain.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 04:47 PM
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After meeting online.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 04:45 PM
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Been there, and done that. Still it's the same, extra labour that you don't get paid for, can't even really enjoy the event later in the day because you are exhausted or still roped into some kind of work that needs to be done etc...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 04:43 PM
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I dunno, my boss doesn't really care about my social behaviour because I never actually see her, and my clients are so desperate for someone to help them that they don't really care either that I don't smile or make eye contact or laugh at their jokes. Just gotta find your lane, if someone has the nerve to complain about you not laughing at their joke maybe you are just replacable anyways. I don't even do super high end tech stuff or anything. Also, the professional environment isn't the best co…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 04:39 PM
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If crack is bad, why does it feel so good? Checkmate.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 04:37 PM
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There are people who prefer to not do things collectively. There's no way around this, sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 04:34 PM
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Meet them online, then meet up IRL. Problem solved.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 04:32 PM
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I don't think you quite understand what it means to be neurodivergent with a brain that reacts with stress to social interactions. I am not stressed because I can't call my grandma shithead, I am stressed from having to interact at all, even just being looked at is stressing.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 04:28 PM
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Good for people who have an interest in attending comic-cons, I guess?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 04:26 PM
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M8 I literally said I have an incurable skin condition. It literally gets worse when I workout lmao. Besides... isn't it incredibly cruel to require someone to hit the gym for months so they can be treated like a human?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 04:25 PM
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I do hit the gym and I am pretty happy with my conventionally unattractive queens, so I don't really get what point you are trying to make right now? Are you a bot?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 04:06 PM
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Yes, because I inherently don't enjoy socializing.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 04:02 PM
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I don't really like the music and from my experience those scenes are just as or more likely to have drama, histrionics, infighting etc as anywhere else, as well as the increased obsession with looks/consuming. And I just don't really find myself drawn to hanging out and socializing in general Maybe there is makeup like that but from my experience even many things that are considered 'safe' for me actually make it worse so I rather not experiment, I have no interest in it because whats the point
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 03:44 PM
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Other way around, but I appreciate your effort, Dr.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 03:31 PM
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Scenes like that don't really work for me. Also wearing makeup with my condition is a horrible idea lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 03:27 PM
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By the sound of that, I've never clicked with someone IRL my entire life
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 03:18 PM
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This is so true and we love to see it
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 02:59 PM
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"But if you aren’t engaging in social behaviors that are pleasant to interact with, other people are also not required to continue interacting with you if they don’t enjoy it." Where did i say they were required to? I am just talking about what works for me and what doesn't work, quit building strawmen
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 02:53 PM
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So spend months, years with random people just to find out they're not really interested in a deeper friendship with you... it's horrible inefficient. It's no surprise people grow desperate when they struggle to find friends IRL.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 02:50 PM
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Volunteering = do a bunch of free labour that the government should provide if the world was sane, don't even get a thank you, deal with horribly stressed overworked coworkers and often ungrateful clients etc.... that said, you can totally knock yourself out if you're into it. Most guys however get told to 'volunteer' so they aren't really into it by heart.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 02:45 PM
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You know you can meet your online friend IRL, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 02:41 PM
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You are completely dodging the point. 'Anyone who doesn’t know how to act considerate or behave well is communicating that they’re not going to be fun to be around.' This is what you said. A guy not looking you in the eye when he shakes your hand is not 'communicating that he isn't going to be fun to be around'. That is YOUR interpretation of the situation, based on extremely shallow and superficial judgement. What might actually be going on: - he is distraught because his pet just died. - he's …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 02:34 PM
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Yes, because nobody would go to war if they knew they would be left to die if they got injured lmao. Also, the amount of prison rape that happens would suggest the biggest danger in prison is your fellow inmates, and a big part of the punishment is being locked in together with a bunch of other humans.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 02:02 PM
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Sigh... do you know how numbers work? It says 34% are from a stranger. That is much less than half, so not the majority.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 02:01 PM
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"All my sources confirm there’s a rise in cyber bullying which is leading up more and more sucides and self harm amongst young people." Yes, because cyber bullying makes it easier to extend IRL bullying and people are more connected now so your IRL bully can also find you on Instagram and continue to harass you etc. Also, why do you misquote? "Among those who experienced cyberbullying, 34% said the attacks came from a stranger, while 31% said they do not know the perpetrator's real identity. Ano…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 01:23 PM
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You can meet people online and then see them IRL? I know because I've done it. But, there are also people who are fine having non physical relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 01:18 PM
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That's weird, I find talking online waaaay easier mostly because moving things past 'hi, how are you' is actually expected. Hope things become easier for you though!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 01:17 PM
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Yeah. It's what works for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 01:15 PM
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It seems you can't back up your nonsense either, because none of the studies you linked support what you are saying. - the first study you linked doesn't say anything about whether or not the victims knew the perpetrator IRL or how cyberbullying extends to IRL. It mentions cyberbullying in general terms as an extension of traditional bullying risks but does not delve into empirical data on perpetrator-victim dynamics. - the second study ALSO doesn't mention anything about the victims knowing the…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 01:14 PM
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Didn't happen for me, but congrats to you!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 12:51 PM
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You are free to give more up to date sources, if you can find them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 12:47 PM
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Sure: – Cyberbullying is related to other issues in the ‘real world’ including school problems, anti-social behavior, substance use, and delinquency (Hinduja & Patchin, 2007; Hinduja & Patchin, 2008; Kowalski & Limber, 2013) – Traditional bullying is still more common than cyberbullying (Lenhart, 2007; Smith et al., 2008; Wang, Nansel, & Iannotti, 2011) – Traditional bullying and cyberbullying are closely related: those who are bullied at school are bullied online and those who bully at school b…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 12:39 PM
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How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 12:28 PM
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So we agree?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 12:26 PM
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Yes, by other people who do it because they are paid to do, and those homes are chronically understaffed because it's an unpopular job, leading to tons of abuse happening in those places. "Every government around the world has some kind of assistance for disabled and disadvantaged people" Mostly 1st world countries that are wealthy, and even there service is struggling. Things can get pretty bleak around the world, many countries where there's no social safety net and you are fucked unless your …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 12:23 PM
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Correct!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 12:21 PM
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"No it comes from a mixture of people you know" You can literally just look up any source on the subject of online bullying and it will tell you that the vast majority of online bullying comes from people the victim knows IRL, and most suicides the bullies are also perpetrators from IRL that merely extended their bullying to online. "people just jumping on and others with a fetish for hurting others" Yeah and nobody cares about them because we just block them. "You can’t have it with someone onl…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 12:21 PM
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Looking at history books and considering the amount of war, genocide, rape murder and torture humans do to each other constantly, I would be inclined to think humans are not that social inherently
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 12:16 PM
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32 years old and I didn't even have a smartphone before turning 25
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 12:15 PM
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"Of course people get bullied online from strangers," But the vast, vast majority of of online bullying comes from people the victim knows IRL, that's literally a fact, and that kind of bullying usually hurts a lot worse than bullying from some random person online that you don't even know, because, surprise, normal well adjusted people just block the annoying online dipshit and move on, the annoying IRL dipshit is a lot harder to deal with "ude, humans need more than written words between them,…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 11:58 AM
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"how then do you expect to have friends and date?" I explained how in the post. Meet people online, date some of them
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 11:52 AM
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I am literally explaining in the post what works for me lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 11:50 AM
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No, it's in the eye of the beholder
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 11:49 AM
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I grew up in a small village and it was hellish. That said, urban centers are even worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 11:48 AM
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"Humans don't leave their sick and weak behind." They absolutely do, old folks homes and homes for the disabled are full of people mostly abandoned by their families.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 11:47 AM
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I said 'socializing online is better' and I've outlined my reasons quite clearly, you are free to actually adress the points
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 11:46 AM
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"How many young people are killing themselves because of bullying they receive online? " Bullying from people they know IRL like classmates etc who then extend the bullying online, almost nobody gets bullied online from complete strangers "You can connect with a person online but it’s not deep" It's usually much deeper 'it’s usually only done with selfish motives' Just throwing out demeaning generalizations now huh "If you think some stranger where you don’t even know their last name will come r…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 11:45 AM
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"It’s not an act to show the people around you that you’re a considerate person who knows how to behave well." Yes it is, especially when it comes to fake politeness etc. Hollow interactions that end up meaningless because they are performed out of group pressure, questions that are asked because of conventions and not genuine interest. Notice how you confuse surface with what's actually inside, a person CAN be considerate even if they can't showing it at the moment. Again, it's subjective and v…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 11:40 AM
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'you learn by observation how to behave in ways that are welcome in groups.' AKA become an actor and then fake your way through life People don't understand that 'imitating socially acceptable' behaviour is not enriching to life if you are not naturally wired to do it, it will always be an act and an extra burden that leaves you more exhausted than you were to begin with, and it will lead you to a life full of people who only care about the fake you and not the real you, aka loneliness
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 11:28 AM
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Some of us have faulty brains and don't work like normal, it's not hard to understand
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 11:23 AM
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"Completely disagree, online is where everyone is at their worst with no respect or basic decency for other humans" Do you not know what a 'block' button is "is so hopefully you make or learn to make an connection with another human being with their own story." And you can do that online just fine "do you think those people actually like you?" Yes "Would come to your aid if you really asked? " Yes, I've definitely come across more helpful people online than IRL
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 11:23 AM
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They need a court jester for the cast of characters in the little movie that is their life
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 11:11 AM
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