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Yeah and the gender equality paradox still applies to those areas too You think the gender equality paradox applies to Afghanistan???? It is currently, today right now, illegal for girls over the age of 12 to attend school in Afghanistan. It's probably the only country in the world where the gender equality paradox has less than zero relevance. Afghan women are not taking university STEM lmao be serious. 😂 without admitting you are in fact enraged Nah, I just thought it was a bit rude and unnece…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 04:52 PM
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Ugh, I am aware that you're ragebaiting, but ehhh let's give you one more good faith try... these are countries that often have like 55%+ of women in STEM like in Iran before the war The specific practice of young boys cross-dressing and being sexually exploited (called bacha bazi) is a historical cultural practice in Afghanistan and Central Asia. Iran is not one of "these countries", *so it's not relevant to compare. *edit to remove ad hom What modern technology? The birth control pill that was…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 10:00 PM
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Yeah so women had an even bigger burden then they do now and they still did it. They had abstinence education, and you guys seem to think abstinence education rocks when you tell men "keep your dick in your pants if you don't want to pay child support" so yeah it was a choice. Lol what do you mean women had "abstinence education" before the invention of reliable birth control? It's not "abstinence education" just to explain how human reproduction works. A lot of women didn't even get that much, …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 08:44 PM
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Women had a worse burden 200, 500, 1000 years ago and they swallowed it, and it wasn't because they were "forced," t hey had the financial provision of brothers etc back then so they had less reason to need a husband and they still did it This is... very ahistorical. Reliable, safe, readily-available birth control was not an option until the 1960s. Women didn't have to be "forced" 200, 500, 1000 years ago because there literally wasn't an alternative. Until very, very recently, pregnancy risk wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 05:55 PM
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So I looked up the source and uhh, wow, this image is deliberate misinformation or just straight-up stupid. The full DHHS Child Maltreatment reports for 2001 through 2006 are readily available in PDF format online. I'm looking at figure 4-2 "Perpetrator Relationships of Child Fatalities" in each report (the same pie chart is labelled figure 5-2 in the 2001 report). I averaged the numbers from the six reports 2001-2006, although there's not a lot of variation year-to-year: Mother, alone: 30.5% Mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 10:00 PM
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It is not manipulation to manipulate someone 🤨
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 12:38 PM
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where many men know that if you wanna talk to women, it's best not to talk about anything deep What specific "deep" subject are you talking around here? Like, are you mad that women aren't discussing their deepest fears and exposing their vulnerabilities to near-strangers? Do you mean "deep" as in an in-depth topic of study, like, you're for some reason surprised most people don't have strong opinions about vowel shifts in Middle English or idk the fall of the Roman Empire? Or do you mean, "deep…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 02:32 PM
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The word "entitlement" has multiple definitions, and it seems like you're mixing them up. "Entitled" can mean 1) having a legal/moral right (like human rights or state benefits), 2) holding a title (like being a duke or owning property), or 3) behaving in a spoiled/pretentious manner (like asking for unearned favours). The principle of bodily autonomy is an entitlement per definition 1. The chick in your example is acting entitled per definition 3. There's no inconsistency here; the principle ju…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 09:22 PM
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It would be a really cool superpower to control other people's visual perception. Like, you're not invisible, you just deflect other people's gaze so they never focus on you. Maybe they have a spooky feeling but can't quite remember what they weren't looking at... 🫥
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 05:13 PM
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If a man posts a gym selfie on social media and a woman he doesn't know likes it, has he cheated on his girlfriend? Is it reasonable for his girlfriend to feel insecure and jealous?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 05:00 PM
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When a man follows another woman on insta, we don't need to guess at his intentions because he is actively giving attention to a woman who is not his partner. There, now the subject is the woman. No, you're struggling with the grammar. Adding a dependent clause doesn't change the structure of the predicate. I already gave you the woman-as-subject versions. The issue is that there's no formulation of the female examples where the object of the verb is a man. "The woman posts the revealing picture…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 04:39 PM
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Do you think posting a photo of yourself on social media is the same thing as liking a photo of someone else on social media, per OP's examples? For it to be a double standard, it has to be the same action. It's not a double standard to judge different actions differently.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 03:57 PM
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I don't think your title statement is true, but it is true of the examples you gave because in those examples the men are active agents and women are not. You make the distinction quite clearly yourself: If a woman’s bf/husband likes another woman’s Instagram picture or follows another woman (even if its a celebrity or someone like that), glances at another woman in public, or even stares too hard at an attractive woman in a movie or tv show Notice that these are all actions a man does. The man …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 03:38 PM
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Imagine a hypothetical submissive man who also does MMA. I guarantee you he feels a lot more demeaned getting cold-clocked by an opponent during a public fight than he does getting off to a sexy spanking from his girlfriend in private.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 04:26 PM
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Restraining someone, physically dominating or hitting them implies something done against their will. It being consensual doesn't change the nature of the fantasies driving it. [...] that says something about what [men] would like to do if moral inhibitions didn't apply. Do you have the same belief about men who watch or engage in fighting sports like MMA, boxing, or wrestling? Are men who train MMA lacking in moral inhibition because they want to (consensually) restrain, physically dominate, an…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 02:03 PM
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He's quoting a radical feminist text from the late 60s that uses absurdity to make a point. It's like pulling random quotes from A Modest Proposal and arguing that Swift was genuinely making an argument for eating babies.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 02:44 PM
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Did you also read A Modest Proposal and come away thinking that Swift was making a genuine argument in favour of eating babies? I'm just gonna drop this quote from the Wikipedia article (emphasis mine): The content [of SCUM Manifesto] is unquestionably a parody of the Freudian theory of femininity, where the word woman is replaced by man [...] Here we have a case of absurdity being used as a literary device to expose an absurdity, that is, the absurd theory which has been used to give "scientifi…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 02:37 PM
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And if they can be tempted out of monogamy with riches and fame, with new dopamine giving experiences You are pulling a lever on the Dopamine Hit Machine and for some reason acting surprised that it exclusively shows you content designed to give a dopamine hit.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 04:56 PM
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Aww, you're so mad! I never posted on FDS. 🤷🏼‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 12:57 PM
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Nah, I think "Red Pill" is hilariously apropos actually. It was called "Red Pill" and the first rule of Red Pill was "be attractive, don't be unattractive" because it's an online group invented by dudes who were obsessed with The Matrix (1999) and Fight Club (1999) despite completely missing the point of both films. Like, they legitimately thought those movies are serious works of modern masculine philosophy and built the whole "movement" around it. The fact that the red pill in The Matrix repre…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 02:41 PM
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I disagree with the second part of the title statement: avoiding high quality women is the intended effect of these "tactics". Red Pill evolved from PUA groups in the 90s/00s. Look up an old episode of Keys to the VIP on YouTube - it's an absolute cringefest, but it perfectly demonstrates the environment that these "tactics" were designed for. If you've never seen it, Keys to the VIP is a game show where a panel of self-identified pick-up artists set challenges for dorky male contestants to comp…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 02:11 PM
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Not the OP you asked, but there's a term for it: "male normative alexithymia". Boys are, on average, less socialized than girls are to label, articulate and internally process their emotions with complex language. It's similar to how men will look at a colour and say "purple", while women will call the same colour "lavender" or "mauve" or "violet". Obviously men can visually distinguish between the different shades of purple, but it's stereotyped as effeminate for men to know the specific colour…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 05:30 PM
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When women advocate for equal rights, they do vocally ask for the "downsides". There have been multiple attempts in the US to expand the draft that were supported by women and feminist groups on the basis of equal application of the law. When you brought up the draft as an example, what right do you believe the draft is a downside to? The right to vote? The right to... be perceived as dangerous? I guess I'm struggling to see how men's collective desire for the perceived social "privilege" of eas…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 04:12 PM
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Ahhhh OK. I thought you were talking about legal rights because you mentioned the draft, but you're talking about social perception, which is a lot more nebulous. But even so, yeah, I think women would be OK being perceived as a potential threat in exchange for actual safety. This is the reasoning a lot of American women give for supporting open carry gun laws. There is a spec fiction book, The Power (2016) by Naomi Alderman, that you might find interesting! It was adapted into a Netflix series …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 03:26 PM
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Right, but you didn't demonstrate that. Women who want expanded rights have accounted for the "downside" of the draft because they advocate that either a) it is unfair that only men are drafted and the draft should be expanded to include women, or b) it is unfair that anyone is drafted and the male-only draft should be abolished. What are other "downsides" to the rights that men have? Women already pay taxes.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 02:33 PM
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Women want rights but not to be drafted as an example This is a confusing point to me because feminists are typically for abolishing the draft for men OR expanding the draft to make it gender neutral. The opposition to both of those positions is people who think women shouldn't have the same rights as men (broadly speaking, conservatives/traditionalists, both male and female). The women who are pro-draft AND against making the draft gender neutral are not the same women who are advocating for in…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 01:32 PM
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That's not a bad question either, but it's not the same thing. I wait for people in front to exit, but I don't clap when a plane lands... I don't think clapping is bad, I just find it performative and dorky and cringe. I can be romantically compatible with someone who is less patient or polite or agreeable than me, but not with someone I find cringey.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 11:38 PM
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One of the questions was "do you clap when a plane lands" lol give me a break. Hm, after thinking about it... that's actually a decent question for a US-based personality questionnaire, though? Obviously a yes/no answer doesn't tell you much on its own, but when weighted alongside other answers, it's not a bad proxy for gauging whether a person values "respectability"-type social etiquette. If you ask someone directly whether they value something like "respectability", people tend to answer what…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 10:18 PM
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No, because that is a classic is-ought fallacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 02:11 PM
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Are you aware of the origins of the RP? Yes. In the late 90s PUAs applied their pick-up theories to dating outside of the bar/club/hook-up environment. They congregated in online forums and developed a codified set of rules and folk (evo)psychology that was heavily influenced by the classic 1999 films The Matrix and Fight Club. In the 2000s RP gained a lot of crossover with "New Atheism" debate guys. (When PPD was first created, most of the RP-aligned members came from this cohort.) In the 2010s…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 12:25 AM
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I love a coordinated pocket square & patterned sock. For some reason, a tie with matching socks is too matchy, but a pocket square with matching socks is a subtle little whimsy that I find bold and thrilling to see like a Victorian lady flashing ankle.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 06:41 PM
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OK. I don't know why I didn't check your post history before responding the first time. I have deleted my posts in this thread because you are skirting the line of "race-baiting" and I don't want to invite any more of that kind of engagement.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 06:12 PM
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Sure, they reflect historical realities, like how the British empire deliberately flooded China with opium to create a market for exports from colonial India and to extract silver from China's economy. China did not want to import opium, but opium is highly addictive and addicts will buy it illegally. So, white people developed a stereotype of Asian men as drug addicts... because they were literally selling them drugs. China and the British Empire fought two wars about it. Or, historical realiti…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 02:44 PM
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Yes. I'm not saying that white women didn't find any individual Asian man unattractive before the 1095 Crusades or whatever lol. I'm saying that "Asian men", as a group, have historically been stereotyped outside of Asia as having unattractive traits (opium addicts, eunuchs, itinerant labour, effeminate, villains, nerds).
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 06:44 AM
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They are inextricable concepts. It's not a perfect metaphor, but politics/laws are the platform, culture/society is the content. State support for independent domestic media production is one of the few interventions that I think actually works to influence what people find attractive or desirable/attainable in a partner, for good or ill. For example: In the early 2000s, South Korea implemented a state policy to promote South Korean media to a global market. Mostly this looks like subsidies for …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 01:34 AM
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Thank you for demonstrating: You're just characterizing women's disagreements as "women being bothered by indifference" so that you can avoid having to defend your opinions in good faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 01:48 AM
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All of a sudden men get shit for being too "nonchalant" (with quotations marks). Somehow a man not caring about what his girlfriend wear is still a bad thing too. Therefore the boyfriend must fall victim to a shit test, whenever his girlfriend decides to go outside half naked, and he is not bother by it. This is so much of a trend in society, women made up a male archetype, the nonchalant man. I have never heard this before. Sounds like algorithm rot or perhaps a regional/cultural issue? Are you…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 07:11 PM
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Why is this in quotation marks? Who are you quoting?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 01:53 PM
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My ex husband punched a wall next to my head and then tackled to me to the floor when I was trying to leave during an argument. It was the first time he'd ever been physically violent. For about a week, I still felt like it was on me to find a way to communicate better or support him in figuring out his childhood trauma or whatever mental illness made him do that. That's what a wife is supposed to do, right? I made a vow! What made me actually leave: he complained that the dog didn't like him. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 10:11 PM
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Infant circumcision and male-only mandatory military service are gendered inequalities, but neither is an issue where "men's rights" is a useful lens for analysis or effecting change. A vocal subset of men are completely fine with being circumcised and will get very angry and upset if you suggest there's anything wrong with it. Some adult men choose to be circumcised for cosmetic, religious, medical, or personal reasons. A general ban on circumcision reduces men's rights by restricting their bod…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 09:15 PM
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OK, now pick any city in that 3% and pull up a demographic distribution map.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 05:17 PM
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Do you think that the US population is randomly distributed across the entire country?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 01:22 PM
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Ahh, no worries, I misread your tone!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 08:47 PM
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Yes, I know. That's what I said. Straight people use the term "pillow princess" as an insult. The other user was referencing the way that queer people (mainly lesbians/f4f) and bdsm kinksters use the term on dating apps and in queer/bdsm spaces. I assume you aren't queer or don't have a lot of friends who are, because in that context a "pillow princess" is the neutral term for the bottom counterpart to a "stone top".
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 08:40 PM
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In queer contexts, yes, you are correct. When used by not-kinky straights, "pillow princess" is an insult.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 08:14 PM
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Avoidant personality disorder (AvPD), or anxious personality disorder, is a personality disorder characterized by excessive social anxiety and inhibition, fear of intimacy (despite an intense desire for it), severe feelings of inadequacy and inferiority, and an overreliance on avoidance of feared stimuli (e.g., self-imposed social isolation) as a maladaptive coping method. Those affected typically display a pattern of extreme sensitivity to negative evaluation and rejection, a belief that one is…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 11:19 AM
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I am using Engels to disprove the title statement that this is a "recent trend". The fact that it's old is literally the point I am making. And yes, you absolutely would read books this old as part of serious scholarly discipline. Did you forget that history exists??
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 03:42 AM
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Ok, can we acknowledge that an ever growing segment of women never want to have children? I literally just explained to you that capitalism incentivizes women to pursue paid labour over forming families. They still don’t need a man who earns enough to combine with her wealth to provide more than the bare minimum necessities for their child and themselves. Getting more than that is a privilege. Is it a privilege for men to pursue more than the bare necessities for a miserable, short-suffering lif…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 10:04 PM
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You're forgetting to factor in that women carry the burden of reproduction. A woman's freedom under capitalism to work and earn is contingent on her avoiding pregnancy and childrearing, which makes pairing up with any man an irrational choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 08:35 PM
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they feel like they need to be rational under capitalism Do you think women should be restricted from making rational choices, i.e. choices in their own self interest? Specifically, how?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 07:39 PM
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Why would you blame women when they are acting rationally under capitalism, same as everyone else? Also, very convenient that 10-15 years ago just so happens to perfectly align with documented, openly-stated and discussed strategies by tech companies and right-wing think tanks to radicalize young men into anti-labour, anti-democratic, and anti-women positions by targetting their algorithms with "manosphere" content. The OP even admits he made this post based on content he was spoonfed by his You…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 06:18 PM
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Sure. Capitalism is the sea that everyone swims in; it would be impossible to achieve feminist goals if they weren't sometimes aligned with capitalist interests.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 05:00 PM
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Just because you haven't encountered these ideas before does not mean they are new. I suggest Engels' The Origin of the Family, Private Property and the State (1884) as a starting point for reading about how feminism and anti-capitalism have always been closely linked ideas.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 01:29 PM
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Women and men are just evolved differently. How??? They are the same species.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 12:29 PM
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These are just a few examples off the top of my head. But all your examples are just feelings, assumptions and imagined scenarios. You use "I" to talk about your age and historical context, but then you switch to the pronoun "we" when you give examples, as in, you didn't observe those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 11:58 AM
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Ever hear the phrase "Comparison is the thief of joy"? It's good advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 09:39 PM
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My best guess is that it's an idea mangled from bookTok discourse. Men overhear girls talking about what they like in a romantasy character and assume they're talking about actual real life men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 04:57 PM
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The irony of decrying "semantics games" and then willfully misinterpreting a descriptive argument for a prescriptive one.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 04:52 PM
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Can you give me an example of a specific, concrete action an individual woman could take that would express "empathy for men's dating disadvantages" to you? What does that look like? What actions can be taken collectively? Like, women, gay people, black people, labourers... All of these groups have specific, actionable demands. They aren't asking for empathy, they are asking for material change that can be clearly articulated. The validation comes from the material change being actioned. "I want…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 10:50 PM
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homosexuals are stoned in certain cultures to this day while can have a christian wedding in other places OK, and? You don't need to empathize with homosexuals to be against stoning them to death. There's a lot of people who support gay rights but openly do not empathize with gay people. A very common position expressed by Christians during the gay marriage debates in the US: "I don't understand it and I don't want to hear about it, but I support your right to do whatever you want in the privacy…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 09:36 PM
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I feel a lack of empathy from wider society and typically women, very specifically for the dating disadvantages of men. I'm not surprised and I'm not sure why you'd expect otherwise. "Wider society" is not capable of empathy. "Women" as a group are not capable of empathy. Empathy is a cognitive/emotional skill practised by an individual, and it occurs mostly inside someone's head. It is also possible, and actually really common, to have empathy for a person and still disagree with their actions …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 08:33 PM
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Yeah, it happens individually and then you extrapolate that across a population. It's one of the ways that "socialization" works. Like, people queue for service and say "please" and "thank you" because that behaviour is taught and consistently rewarded by society at large. Manners aren't always rewarded in an individual interaction, but it's consistent enough that most people grow up understanding that basic etiquette is required to get what they want from other people. There are rude individual…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 04:57 PM
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Behaving in ways that oppress and disempower women is inconsistently rewarded now, which is what causes escalating intensity.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 01:46 PM
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I'm not looking at men as a single behavioural unit; notice I didn't actually reference men or women at all. I explained the principle of an "extinction burst" using neutral terms (trainer/subject), and then said "unfortunately society isn't a single trainer". Tbf, I could have further clarified that the "subject" in this analogy is people broadly, not just men. Women also participate in patriarchy and therefore reinforce oppressive behaviour.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 01:42 PM
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What is "push it", though? There's no direct action, just incentive. I don't punish the dog for barking. I don't acknowledge the barking. I just... don't open the door if the dog is barking. If he's quiet, I open the door and he gets to greet people. I struggle to conceive of that as "breaking his will", that's such unnecessarily dramatic framing. A sentient creature is using functional intelligence to infer cause and effect, and changing behaviour to effect a desired outcome. The dog learned IF…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 04:53 PM
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I suppose. I don't think of it as "breaking will", it's just "changing behaviour". My dog didn't stop barking at the door because I broke his will. He stopped barking at the door because I made it unrewarding and uninteresting to do. He wants to see who is at the door. He eventually changed his behaviour to a single alert+wait, and now he gets to greet people at the door again.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 03:16 PM
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In behavioural training, there's this concept called an "extinction burst". When a behaviour that was previously rewarded is no longer being rewarded, the subject will repeat the previously-rewarded behaviour over and over, with greatly increasing intensity, before giving up. The trainer must continue withholding reinforcement until the subject gives up the behaviour. If the trainer reacts to the extinction burst in any way, that will greatly reinforce the behaviour. The subject learns that doin…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 02:45 PM
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Exhibit A: Man fails to recognize that a club and a classroom are different contexts with different social rules. He sees a potential casual interaction with a female classmate as functionally identical to a PUA club game where any response from the woman except being immediately DTF is framed as "rejection".
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 03:30 PM
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Negging used to be a PUA thing that got folded into early Red Pill. It's specifically intended to be used in the context of pick-ups, i.e. cold approaching women in clubs and bars for one night stands. PUA is a numbers game, so negging tests whether a woman is into you or not quickly so that you can move on if she doesn't immediately engage. The vast majority of women do not respond positively to negging and will immediately shut it down - this is by design. The women who respond "positively" to…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 02:29 PM
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porn and smut books successfully brainwashed a lot of women into thinking what size "a real man should be" even without them seeing such size in real life ever, though i can only base my opinion on talks with female friends, partners and online conversations My grandmother had a copy of Story of O on her bookshelf; smutty books aren't new. I think a lot of straight men struggle to conceptualize how the desire to be fucked is qualitatively different from the desire to fuck. When men encounter smu…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 07:46 PM
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Replace the word "feminism" with "Ru Paul's Drag Race" and this is amazing fanfiction.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 07:02 PM
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Thanks for the link! I wasn't disagreeing with the research. It's a robust finding. Most Red Pillers do not read the study. They read four blog posts by Some Guy who references that study to argue that women are a hivemind.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/26 01:08 AM
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They read four blog posts about how women have greater in-group bias therefore something something female hivemind. So when an individual woman disavows literally any negative behaviour by another woman, they experience cognitive dissonance and try to project that feeling because it's unpleasant. Like, "no u!" 😡
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/26 11:31 PM
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Gen Z is generally more conservative than Millenials were at the same age. The fact that there is such a generational divide implies that these attitudes are cultural rather than innate.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 05:37 PM
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There's a tendency in "manosphere" spaces to generally deride the humanities as a field of study... and then they pose very basic, 101-level humanities discussion questions like it's a brand new idea. There's a wealth of literature in the domain of human sexuality, specifically the subset of "queer studies", that could help you imagine some of the ways people have been pairing off or hooking up outside of the conventional script, both in the past and today.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 03:59 PM
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Do you write M/F? Filter for M/M smut on ao3 and both the audience and authors will skew overwhelmingly female. A surprising number of both straight and queer women read M/M smut but not M/F. There's been a bunch of TV/movie adaptations of smutty M/M romance books written by (mostly) straight women for a primarily female audience in the last few years. See: Red, White and Royal Blue. Heated Rivalry. Arguably the AMC Interview with the Vampire adaptation.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 12:48 AM
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during a pregnancy it is not just their body anymore Fascinating. This is an insanely radical feminist position when followed to its logical conclusion. Pregnancy = slavery.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 07:17 PM
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Does having sex = a contract to have a baby?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 07:04 PM
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If you signed a contract to donate your kidney, and then you changed your mind before the surgery... would you be OK with being forcibly tied down and forced to donate your kidney? They'll die if you don't give them your kidney. You agreed to do it, in writing!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 06:15 PM
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Yes, but the point of the specific thought experiment is that we don't need to argue about whether a fetus is a "person" or not. We already accept that an individual is not required to give up bodily autonomy to facilitate another individual's right to life, even their own child. You can't force someone to donate a kidney to anyone, even if there is a 100% chance that they will die without it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 06:06 PM
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Classic thought experiment: Imagine today you woke up and your circulatory system was suddenly attached to another person. You have to share organs with this person until they are able to function independently of you, which takes several months. If you sever the connection early, they will die. If you don't sever the connection, you will experience bodily changes, permanent side effects, and there is a slight chance you will die from complications. Does your bodily autonomy override their right…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 05:37 PM
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Notice I said "used to" and "naively" and "back in the 2000s" lol. I was an optimistic teenager before I went to university and actually read any Engels.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 02:22 PM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 02:05 PM
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Literally like 10 years ago (💀), I started posting on this subreddit because there were RP guys that I could respectfully disagree with... on this subreddit specifically. That was one of the original founding motivations for this subreddit to exist. If you strip out the misogyny, "old RP" is pretty basic advice delivered in an irreverent pull-yourself-together kind of tone that some people find more appealing than the pastel-toned therapy speak that dominates modern self-help. A lot of early "pu…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 11:17 PM
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It’s like all of their brains are edgelord-rot nowadays or something. I used to be naively open to the idea that feminism "won" back in the 2000s (lmfao), so I was quite patient with the aggrieved tone of early RP. Like, aw, these men grew up with "girl power" in TV commercials and now they are developing class consciousness as men! They're doing it super weird, but if we engage in good faith, maybe they'll experience an empathy and become productive forces of positive change in society! Fucking…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 10:16 PM
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I really, really miss the old school central RP idea of the "anger phase". 90% of the posts from men on PPD these days would have been outright dismissed by "old guard" RP guys as useless anger phase whining. Like, yes, young man, you discovered the great secret that society is all a lie and the world sucks and it's very unfair. You can be mad about that for a bit... but you gotta get it out of your system BEFORE you can implement any RP strategies because the anger phase energy scares off the m…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 08:24 PM
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You made a debate post. I quoted the specific lie. It's simply not the "stark reality" that male autism isn't acknowledged, dude, be serious lol. Autism literally used to be considered "extreme male brain" disorder until recently. Ignorance is a genuine excuse - if you've never heard of Cohen's "male brain" research or only started paying attention to autism in the last couple years, I get why you'd feel that way. It's just very demonstrably not the reality. We can talk about how autistic men ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 09:56 PM
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I'm saying this because the stark reality of male autism is not being acknowledge at all. Sigh. As a woman with autism, I actually agree that men with level 1/2 ASD are worse off than their female counterparts in the current day! Surprise! I think it's for a variety of reasons, structural and social and political and gendered... I've actually posted about this before. But hyperbole and exaggeration does you no favours and makes it look like you are, in fact, engaging in oppression Olympics. Why …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 09:23 PM
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That's a myth. It was common for the very rich, who traded women like cattle, but for the average person, women generally married in their 20s. THANK YOU. To expand on your point: even among the very rich, most of the wealthy/titled women that got married very young to consolidate land or whatever typically weren't consummating the marriage until they were older. An experience like Margaret Beaufort's is the exception, not the rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 11:12 PM
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rise in this monster porn fetish Antiquity might have been peak for monster porn. We probably lost some batshit crazy tentacle hentai when the libraries of Alexandria were destroyed. 😔 in the hyper popular smut [the male characters] need a magical excuse to be [masculine] to make it okay. ... no. Monstrosity is feminine. Body horror as a genre is female-coded. Women have a lot of psychodrama to process about female puberty, menstruation, penetration, pregnancy, childbirth and breastfeeding. At a…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 05:42 PM
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Ohhhhh, lmao. This thread is a plug for OP's subreddit where he collects cherry picked articles under a tag for "systemic sexism against men", and then he posted a single article tagged "systemic sexism against women" like three months ago as a joke lol. I don't know if it's supposed to be funny, but I laughed, so thanks for that, OP!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 02:20 AM
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The argument for financial abortion assumes that medical abortion is allowed, so "right to life" is completely irrelevant to the discussion. I'm talking about a born child's legal rights to parental support that men want to be uniquely empowered to "abort". The child either gets rights at conception or it doesn't. It doesn't. Child support is calculated from a child's birthdate, not conception.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 11:43 PM
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Nope, the conservative Christian is making a false equivalence, just like men who advocate for "financial abortion" are making a false equivalence. That's why, "A person has the right to a medical abortion to terminate a pregnancy" is not discrimination: What happens if the pregnant person doesn't get an abortion? The child is born and the child has a right to support from both parents. What happens if the pregnant person gets an abortion? No child exists, neither parent has any obligations. Wha…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 10:31 PM
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Sorry, see edit - I reworked the quoted sentence. You could have said "mandatory military service and different pension age limits are examples of discrimination against men" and we could argue those issues on the merits and many women would agree with you, myself included! Those are interesting discussions to have. Instead, you framed it as competition about which gender is legally discriminated against more across different countries... and the answer to that is obviously "women", which is why…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 08:26 PM
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I disagree because you specifically discounted most countries that have gender-based laws in general. I agree that the mandatory draft in the US is discriminatory... but probably not the way you'd like lol. Military service has historically been tied to a lot of special benefits and privileges, like housing, education, career training/advancement and medical care. Yes, combat is hell and requires great sacrifice, but the vast majority of people in the military are not in combat roles. Military s…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 04:36 PM
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Oh I'm so sorry, I thought you'd read at least an article about the exhibit or googled the ruling since you cited it as an example of discrimination. By pivoting to the Holocaust, I will accept that as an admission that you were cherry picking and don't have the knowledge to defend the example you provided. If it's "clear", you should be able to explain how.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 03:53 PM
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Can you explain why you think this is an example of legal or regulatory discrimination against men, despite a court ruling that it is not?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 03:37 PM
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It does however shake out as an additional reproductive right. Though that is just a physical reality. The physical reality is that if a woman doesn't get an abortion, a third person exists. It's no longer a matter of reproductive rights because the reproduction has already occurred. The mother does not have a right to child support; the child does. In the hypothetical "financial abortion", the man is giving up his rights as a parent, and any woman who agrees to a financial abortion is giving up…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 03:23 PM
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Australian court decided that women’s-only museum exhibit can exclude men because the law allows for discrimination if it promotes “equal opportunity” for a marginalised group : r/SystemicSexism This is the first of your links that I clicked on and it's so obviously a disingenuous example that I doubt you read it and you just went cherry picking after the fact. The Australian museum exhibit is called "Ladies Lounge", and the explicit purpose of the art exhibit is to give people the experience of…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 02:51 PM
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Rule #3: Reproductive rights: I am 100% pro-choice, but until there is a paper abortion for men, women are not the ones who are discriminated against. Abortion is a medical procedure that ends a pregnancy. Men who become pregnant are not prevented from having an abortion (in civilized countries), same as women. "Financial abortion" is a made-up term that describes when a man abdicates financial responsibility for his living child, either with or without also giving up custodial or parental acces…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 02:05 PM
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it doesn't simply doesn't influence a man's selection criteria during the dating process Eh, see, now you've changed your language again - this is how the arguments start lol. A woman's career doesn't influence a man's selection criteria when *initiating** the dating process*, i.e. when he selects a woman to approach. The moment they actually go on a date and start an ongoing interaction, i.e. "dating", her career becomes at least a little bit relevant. Like, at minimum, her career affects wheth…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 10:33 PM
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I think this is more of a gendered language/perspective misunderstanding, rather than a fundamental disagreement on the value of having a career. In your OP, you alternate between "dating choices" and "sexual attraction" as if those are the same thing. It seems like when men talk about "dating choices", they aren't talking about an ongoing relationship, right? They're talking about the literal single-event choice to approach a woman with the intent to date. It makes sense to me that a woman's ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 08:01 PM
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Single men have become a highly desirable and predictable consumer demographic. They have high disposable income and obvious pressure points to induce anxiety and drive consumption. They tend to be low information consumers and don't care as much about product safety or negative externalities. Once they have a partner/kids, men's consumer habits shift and become a lot harder to influence. The average married man is not making the financial decision to buy an expensive car on his own.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 07:42 PM
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When a man "objectifies" you, he thinks your face and body is attractive. A man can look at a woman and find her face and body attractive without objectifying her. That doesn't mean he's minimizing you to your face and body over your personhood. No, that's literally what the word "objectify" means.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 09:19 PM
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Did OP talk about Berserk beyond mentioning it in a list of movies/shows that wannabe sigma male type guys like? If so, I didn't see so I can't comment beyond what's in the main post. Can you expand on what you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 07:59 PM
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I think one of the defining qualities of guys who get really into red pill is a lack of media literacy. They've never watched a movie critically and don't know how. They definitely didn't read the book. They don't recognize allegory or metaphor or metatextual references. Like, red pill dudes genuinely think Tyler Durden from Fight Club is aspirational. Tyler Durden is a super cool hyper masculine sigma dude with great abs who fuuucks... but the entire crux of the story is that Tyler Durden isn't…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 07:21 PM
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The word "tradeable" has a technical definition in economics, i.e. goods and services that can be traded internationally. You don’t have to justify any “isk”s to anyone because an “ick” is a subjective value held by an individual ... so you don't find sex trafficking icky?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 09:06 PM
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See edit.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 08:21 PM
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True, but that doesn't make it tradeable unless you want to talk specifically about sex trafficking, which I hope I don't have to justify the "ick" for.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 08:13 PM
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Many services are nontradable. Edit: I'm being pedantic because this is a silly question. I don't believe sex has metaphysical value and I'm not sure why that's assumed of me.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 08:10 PM
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I cannot go to the store and offer sex in exchange for groceries. I will be asked to provide money instead, and probably trespassed and/or arrested if I insist that they accept sex as payment for my weekly shop.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 05:54 PM
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Yes, it does: people frequently have negative personality traits. Women are a type of people. Therefore, women frequently have negative personality traits. Whether a specific manipulator is male or female has more to do with context than gender. I would expect to encounter more female manipulators if I were working as a nurse in a hospital, and I would expect to encounter more male manipulators if I were working as an analyst for a software startup. 🤷🏼‍♀️ I expect that I would see more male mani…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 03:17 PM
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Perhaps it's hard to find research on this specific topic because people can be "manipulative, narcissistic, machivalian [sic], and [racist]" and the gendered differences are less extreme than you assume they are...? Although "Machiavellianism" specifically as a personality trait might be more common in men, so that's a weird keyword to use if you're trying to look for research on typically female expressions of negative traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 01:35 PM
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The default state was no legal abortions. Why would that be the default? In the absence of explicit bans against it, medical professionals perform abortions as part of normal medical care. Most functional, democratic countries (and a lot of non-democratic ones too) have a default right to medical care. The US is the exception, not the rule. It's not like there were abortion rights and after women got their rights etc men decided to remove that privilege. ... isn't that effectively what happened …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 09:37 PM
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My mum has expressed dissatisfaction that all of the dogs she's had have been nowhere near as close and affectionate as my dogs have been with me. I told her to get a male dog next time, and get one from a shelter instead of a breeder. She didn't. Her new purebred dog is a bitch and acts like one, quelle surprise lol. 🤷🏼‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 01:42 PM
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It's unbelievably frustrating whenever circumcision gets trotted out as an issue by guys here. I am very vocally anti-circumcision and the only people who have ever seriously argued against me in favour of circumcision are men. It's very clear from the data that the decision to circumcise is primarily made by fathers. If dad was circumcised, he will choose to have his sons be circumcised. It's the same with FGM. The practice of FGM is primarily driven by women's choices, so the interventions tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 10:03 PM
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Canadian? I don't think the US has this distinction.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 01:21 PM
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Market forces aren't a "natural process", perfectly laissez-faire utopian markets do not exist. All modern markets are highly influenced by state and corporate interests and, yes, by individual capitalists. It's not a conspiracy. I'm happy to give you some sources for whatever type of leftist counterculture you're most interested in hearing about. Exploiting an economic downturn in the UK under a left-wing Labour government, fascists began organizing for a political party called the National Fro…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 12:21 AM
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There's a reason Tim Pool thinks skateboarding is about skateparks and the average conservative thinks Green Day is punk Yeah, the reason is that institutions (especially tech/media) are owned by anti-labour capitalists who have a long, well-documented history of attempting to neuter any whiff of working class organizing by co-opting the aesthetics and vibe of resistance and making it all normie and lame (see: "jazz", "bluegrass", "punk", "hipster", "gangsta", "sk8ers", "woke", etc.). Like, "Naz…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 05:03 PM
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No, that's not what I'm saying. A big class of women were also nuns or otherwise "married" to the church and off the market. I'm saying that men in the Middle Ages were genuinely concerned with maintaining their own chastity, which is a totally alien concept to men today.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 04:49 AM
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I think you underestimate how strong the influence of culture can be! Remember I'm talking about the Middle Ages when society was dominated by the church, much more so than the state. There used to be a significant population of men who made religious vows of celibacy/chastity to varying degrees and genuinely thought they would burn in hell for eternity if they broke their vows... or at the very least they'd lose their cushy job beer-brewing or copying scripture at the local abbey if they get ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 01:02 AM
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being an asshole, emotionally distant, and not caring as much has gotten and continues to get me further What does "being an asshole" mean, though? Like, what is a concrete example of asshole behaviour to you? Because I am willing to bet you're not coming across to women as "an asshole", you're coming across as "NOT desperate". They can't hear you being an asshole in your head, you actually have to say or do something to give that impression.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 12:33 AM
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I think it is easier I agree, but I've known a lot of autistic guys who were definitely not coddled by their moms and still thought about masking this way. My personal theory, as an autistic woman who knows a lot of autistic people in every gender flavour (both as friends and through autism-focused groups and therapy and all that shit): children are socialized through language to internalize the basic psychological concept of male-as-observer and female-as-observed. Boys learn to objectify women…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 11:32 PM
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(Reposting my comment because Reddit didn't like the link format.) Nope, I can get myself off in under a minute if I wanted to. Most women can too. It's a lack of effort, not biology. I suppose you could argue it's indirectly caused by the knowledge of evolution, i.e., modern men understand evolution well enough to know that the female orgasm isn't required, so they no longer value it as an integral part of sex like they used to. Throughout the Middle Ages, it was widely believed that women had …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 09:35 PM
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Blue pill is just "anything that isn't Red Pill" so the reverse is kinda nonsensical.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 12:29 PM
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Nah, that just gets you a different type of male attention, with the added bonus of being gender policed by middle aged women in public bathrooms. 🙃
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 10:46 PM
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Double D is an E right? Why not just say you’re E? Who do you say you have double D’s? Why not call D cups Double C’s? And if Double D is bigger than a D cup why is a double A smaller than an A. Bra stars make NO sense and it’s because they were invented by women. If men invented bras it would be much more sensical. Huh, neat. You piqued my curiosity and TIL. The letter sizing came from corporate bra manufacturers in the 1930s. Originally the letter categories made sense because ABCD referred to…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 04:26 PM
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the substance of the blackpill the data on height, facial aesthetics, and dating app disparities isn't a hormone fueled delusion I didn't say it was. It's also not a hormone-fueled delusion to recognize that data overwhelmingly shows men (and people generally) don't like fat chicks. Many teenagers lack the knowledge, context and stable sense-of-self to integrate that data without developing rather harmful beliefs. The pro-ana ideal was a physical impossibility for most. For the blackpiller, the …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 02:15 PM
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I think you don't understand what pro-ana communities were like, which is fair - they were literally banned from the internet in the mid 2000s. A pro-ana girl would have said her worldview is based on observed data too. She'd have said it's a logical conclusion to a lifetime of negative feedback. A girl who identified as "pro-ana" in 2003 may or may not actually have an eating disorder, but she 100% believes that there is a biological caste that determines how women are treated. I point out that…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 01:23 PM
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I mean, traditionally, yeah, the bride or her family pays for the groom's ring.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 09:47 PM
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I found the blackpill at 16. Yeah, of course you did. I have this theory that black pill is just the masculine counterpart to pro-ana forums from the early 2000s. It's a form of digital self-harm that teenagers are drawn into when they are rejected or socially ostracized from the new, more complex social dynamics of middle/high school. Lots of stories of being bullied, unsupportive family, going through puberty and feeling like an absolute troll about it, etc. The vast majority of people who eng…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 03:13 PM
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... men wear wedding rings, though?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 01:05 PM
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The global prevalence rate of any type of IPV during pregnancy was 25.0% in 118 studies including 124,838 women, and the rates varied within and between continents; the highest in Africa (36.1%) and the lowest in Europe (5.1%) source, source
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 11:23 PM
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Then they lied about it to men and gaslight men into believing that if we just help women more, equality will eventually trickle down to help men, so until then men just need to shut up, bend over backwards more, and keep always and forever helping women while never complaining or demanding reciprocity. Who is "they"? One of the traditional restrictions on women is legal coverture and all the downstream effects that follow from that principle. Traditionally, the wife is restricted by her father …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 10:34 PM
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Yeah, usually not in a good way though. It means that the man has negative traits that you'd have to tolerate or overlook. "He's a little rough around the edges, but he's a really sweet guy!" "He's a little rough around the edges, but he cleans up nice!"
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 05:22 PM
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Also, interestingly enough (although I may have misread), it also seems to show that larger friendship groups are actually associated with negative personality traits in men. I wonder if boys/men who have a large group of "friends" because of gang affiliation or drugs are overrepresented in the subset of "men/boys who report having lots of friends"?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 03:53 PM
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Individual soldiers who fought in the Pacific theatre actually went to Asia and met Asian people and developed their opinions based on real experience, not media depictions. If you are into history, then I recommend you read Orientalism by Edward Said as it is a foundational text for the study of the history of "the East" as a concept in Western culture. If you like memoirs, Obasan by Joy Kogawa is a compelling read - not a memoir, but a very well-researched novel about the internment of Japanes…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 01:37 PM
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Sex in a sense is a "service" from women to men. But not exactly in terms of a transaction, but in terms of consent. Since women (on average) are much weaker than men physically, it makes sense for the consent of a woman in a sense to have more weight, because she is physically threatened more. And a normal man will also put the woman's consent and her comfort first, which gives women more power in this regard. OK, so women practically can't withhold sex, they can only withhold consent. If she w…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 02:25 PM
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What?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 02:10 PM
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"You guys"? I have literally never made an OP on PPD lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 01:58 PM
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It helps but is not a hard requirement.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 01:01 PM
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Like in what way is this stuff supposed to help men and boys? Specifically this part of the guidelines would be helpful for treating men who are in marriage counselling or court-ordered therapy after commiting domestic violence to deconstruct how their internal beliefs about masculinity lead them to make self-limiting choices that result in legal trouble or alienating his wife and kids and extended social network. Some men do commit domestic violence, and those men are actually more likely than …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 01:48 AM
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Changing societal attitudes is hard and requires time. That's why I think such a change could only be resolved through collective action of some kind. What that actually looks like, however, I unfortunately do not know. I have a recent case study example of what it looks like: "Western" culture has a centuries-long history of negatively stereotyping "Eastern" men. Around the late 1800s/early 1900s, a lot of single young Asian men immigrated to North America and white people reacted with the usua…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 01:21 AM
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Nope, it was banned because tech companies were cynically woke back in 2015-2018 before AI took off and thought it would be harmful to future development if early LLMs casually used racial slurs or dropped a phrase like "roast beef curtains" out of context. They obviously no longer think that lol. On the back-end, Reddit quarantine is just a way to flag a sub "do not include" in training data without affecting the user experience that much. If you browse Reddit logged in, Reddit quarantine is th…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 07:16 PM
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Yes, no shit, they needed training data to build the LLM before the LLM could exist. EDIT: OpenAI was founded 2015, the same year Reddit started to quarantine subs.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 06:54 PM
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I will never understand why Reddit banned it. Given the timing and range of subs banned along with red pill, my money is on OpenAI and Google pressuring Reddit to clean up its content before feeding the entire platform into their training data for public-facing LLMs.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 06:48 PM
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Nah, they don't give a shit about AWDTSG. I think it's way more insidious than that. Undocumented women are harder to identify than undocumented men because they interact less with institutions that generate records about their current location/status. An undocumented worker typically submits some kind of paperwork to e-verify in order to be on payroll. However, his 18yo undocumented niece is invisible after she leaves school, unless... EDIT: Two birds with one stone: women give up their own inf…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 05:30 PM
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Omg can we shut the fuck up about the Tea app? I would have literally never heard of it if not for ragebait on this sub. Fun fact I didn't know before you guys MADE ME: Tea app was founded by a man. Tech companies are not your allies, guys. You are not like them. They are not like us. All this gender war shit is useful idiocy for oligarchs who want your engagement so they can profit off of useless ghoulish bullshit like a fucking gossip app that asks for your government ID. (I would not be surpr…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 03:05 PM
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Lol no, he wanted to stay living in my country of origin permanently. If I hadn't sponsored his permanent residency as his spouse, he would have had to return to his home country to apply for either permanent or a new temporary residency (and probably get denied a few times). He studied a STEM field but dropped out and worked a retail job the whole time we were married. I have a very niche-within-a-niche industry skillset that I have been able to make a decent living from. We made similar income…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 05:55 AM
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A lot of toxic/abusive people are totally fine or only display potentially toxic traits until the status quo changes in a way that makes it difficult to justify leaving at the first hint of truly toxic behaviour. Like getting married or having kids. I 100% believe that my ex husband would have never become abusive if we didn't get married. We were freshman sweethearts, together for five years before getting married and we had talked deeply about life goals and marriage and gender roles and our c…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 12:11 AM
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Can you give me a page/line citation from the APA guidelines for where it says "boys struggling today means that women are hurting"? You put that in quotation marks in your original comment. Idc what that YouTube video says, I suspect you bring her up because the APA guidelines don't say that... and neither does she in the quotes you provided. Violence being part of "traditional masculinity ideology" does not mean that all men are violent. It means that violence is associated with traditional ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 12:44 PM
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No u
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 05:19 PM
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APA where their guidelines to therapists for boys Can you link to these APA guidelines? Can't find 'em.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 04:52 PM
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I recently had to give first aid to an acquaintance who got heat stroke because, according to him, carrying water in a public park is unmasculine. 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 04:50 PM
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Perhaps you should start your own thread if you want to have an off topic discussion. This thread is about whether the existence of the app Tea "proves the Red Pill", and the answer is no, because the app does not accurately reflect anything about "female nature" or "male nature" for that matter. Rather, it reflects the corporate capture of human interactions for profit.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 02:19 PM
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Why are you unwilling to address that dating apps and dating-adjacent apps like Tea are owned by companies with a profit motive?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 12:44 PM
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You sound very captured by the media landscape I just described. Women are financially better off than they used to be relative to men... but men and women are both being financially fucked by the 1%. Your algorithm feeds you whatever pablum will keep you occupied while democracy and legal entitlements are being dismantled from underneath you. It's absolutely insane to believe something as controlled and captured as your tech-mediated experience of a dating app is in any way reflective of "women…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 12:24 PM
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Find me a photograph of a woman you think is hot and not wearing makeup... and you will have shown me a photograph of a woman wearing makeup.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 12:05 PM
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Women don't engage with dating apps as much as men do... which I'm sure is why something like Tea was dreamed up. It captures female user data, men's data indirectly, and gives women a reason to continue engaging with dating apps. That said, this is maybe kind of conspiratorial, but I do think that tech companies and right wing media have been targetting men, specifically and deliberately, over the last 15-20 years. I think Steve Bannon and similarly-aligned media executives looked at the data f…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 11:45 AM
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It is not illegal nor conspiratorial for private companies to accurately report to their VCs that the true value of the app is in grifting consumers out of private data they can sell to third parties, and not whatever the product is being advertised to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 04:07 PM
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Tea app is not publicly traded, they can say whatever they want. VCs are also in on the grift. The true value of something like Tea is the reams of personal data that private consumers consent to providing, that can be reused and sold. Like, verifying driver's licenses just to log in is an INSANE level of personal data collection for a private company.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 02:21 PM
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I think everyone, men and women and children, have way too much trust in tech corporations. This app is trying to make money, and like many tech endeavors, it has no real path to profitability outside of monetizing people's data and hype. So they focus on HYPEHYPEHYPE and then cut and run once people catch on to the grift and stop feeding real data. You think the ghouls pitching this app to VCs are honestly reporting their numbers? Fuuuck no.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 01:41 PM
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Per Tesla: Man out of Time by Cheney, Tesla was a bachelor by choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 12:56 PM
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The reason the creators of South Park (both men btw) went with "ha ha he has a tiny dick" is because that will actually hurt Trump's feelings, unlike calling him a "pedo rapist racist fascist piece of shit", all of which he seems rather proud of and disqualifies him from deserving any empathy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 12:00 PM
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It's common for nursing homes to get outbreaks of STIs because old people can and do have sex and relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 02:33 AM
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OK, how about Michelle Obama getting "transvestigated" since 2008?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 02:14 AM
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I remember man hands being a thing because of that Seinfeld episode where he can't get over his girlfriend's huge hands...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 02:12 AM
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Like, you, personally, your family talks about small dicks at the dinner table?? And why 8 years, what is that referring to? Edit: Ohhhhh you're white knighting for Trump and his little dick. 🤣 Wouldn't that be 12 years since his terms aren't consecutive?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 01:39 AM
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8 years straight? Huh? This sounds like you have an extremely specific grievance. It's super weird that your family makes small dick jokes at dinner. Like, what the actual fuck? Edit to your edit: 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 01:15 AM
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There is reason we don't call Marjorie Taylor Greene a "Flat Chested, Big nosed B***H" Uh, she literally got told she had a "beach blonde bad-built butch body" on public access TV and everyone but humorless Republicans fucking loved it lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 01:07 AM
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these kinds of women ... celebrities with marketing teams?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 05:17 PM
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Lol every dude says he has a "business".
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 11:20 AM
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... please tell me English isn't your first language.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 08:33 PM
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I asked another user to define the English verb phrase "tends to" and you responded with "if someone likes you and wants to fuck you, and you feel the same, that's a recipe for a good relationship". My mind is very very small and I'm so very stupid, so can you explain how you thought that answered the question?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 08:26 PM
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What?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 07:59 PM
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So, no, you can't explain it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 07:57 PM
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Are you following this thread at all? I didn't bring it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 07:56 PM
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I repeat: Some men say they don't only want sex and act accordingly and these men tend to be married and off the market quickly. Can you explain what the words "tend to" mean in this sentence?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 03:26 PM
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I am talking specifically about people who have a religious belief that sex before marriage is a sin.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 03:23 PM
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Sorry, I'm not sure what you're talking about. Declare what?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 03:16 PM
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Would he still marry her if they had sex and she didn't get pregnant? 🤷🏼‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 03:14 PM
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Men use social media for the same thing as women do: validation ("hey look at me!") and identity-craft ("hey this is what I want to be associated with!" I don't have personal social media, which is unusual for anybody my age, male or female. Every man I have dated has posted vacation photos, gym thirst traps, selfies, photos of themselves posing with a project or painting, showing off a new motorcycle, etc. You notice when women do it because you notice women more generally, and your algorithm p…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 03:06 PM
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Not just the Catholic Church, no. And actually not just religious institutions, but basically any closed institutional system that allows a person in a position of authority unsupervised access to vulnerable individuals. Sexual abuse of elders is horrifically common in long-term care settings, for example. The majority of people don't believe in your specific imagined consequences and many religions don't have a concept of hell or purgatory.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 02:40 PM
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Some men say they don't only want sex and act accordingly and these men tend to be married and off the market quickly. Can you explain what the words "tend to" mean in this sentence?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 02:28 PM
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Yes, which is why the age of first marriage is very low in communities where sex before marriage is considered sinful. Men want sex so they get married only for access to sex as quickly as possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 02:26 PM
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You're right, I should have expanded that last one: Very, very few men say they don't want sex and act accordingly. Most men who say they don't want sex demonstrate through their actions that they are being dishonest. According to the de facto practice of many religious institutions, "swearing off sin" conveniently does not prohibit child sexual abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 02:25 PM
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I watch what men do and listen to what men say. A lot of men say they only want sex and act accordingly. A lot of men say they want more than sex, but then act like they only want sex. Some men say they don't only want sex and act accordingly and these men tend to be married and off the market quickly. Very, very few men say they don't want sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 01:58 PM
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I think socializing is being actively sabotaged by tech companies for content, and it's ramped up in the last 15 years or so. There is a corporate and/or state entity (depending where you live) that surveils every interaction you have on your phone/computer and tries to influence your behaviour by showing you content based on their surveillance. I had a very mild text argument with a friend the other day, and literally within seconds of typing an angry text, my usually chill social media algorit…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 08:50 PM
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I thought of an analogy that might help u/Slice5755. Imagine you have a medical condition that is easily managed with regular injections. You need someone to prepare the medication and perform the injection for you, but the medication allows you to live without any negative symptoms of your condition. You have to pick who will administer the medication. Do you pick A) whichever doctor or nurse practitioner is on shift at the local clinic when you scheduled your appointment? Or do you pick B) a s…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 11:30 PM
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Obviously a street hooker turning tricks for drug money is at greater risk of violence than a whore getting paid for the 24/7 "girlfriend experience". But sex work also includes things like OF, virtual findom, selling the "girlfriend experience" for four hours instead of 24/7, and acting in studio pornography alongside recently STI tested actors for taxable wages. It's a variable industry and very negative experiences are common... but a lot of livable wage sex work doesn't actually require you …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 10:49 PM
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Would you rather have money AND have the freedom to choose where you live and choose what you eat and choose when to fuck and choose how much you spend on your hobbies? Or would you prefer to have money BUT be forced to live where this guy wants to live, forced to eat what this guy wants to eat, forced to fuck when this guy wants to fuck, and forced to ask this guy for permission to spend money on your hobbies? In other words: you get money either way, but you lose a lot more freedom by relying …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 09:46 PM
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I think makeup matters less than men think it does. It's more that men aren't socialized from birth to think about "personal aesthetics" the way that women are, i.e. understanding how colours, shapes, and contrast/harmony affect how your appearance is perceived. I bet if you asked, most women can tell you whether they have long/short vertical line, whether their skin has a cool or warm undertone, what shape their face is, etc. All of these things influence what colours, fits and haircuts will lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 09:38 PM
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Need houses for house parties. I'd love to host stuff like DnD games and cute dinners and random parties... but I live in a 1bed rental apartment and work from home, which means I don't have room for a dining table let alone floor space for up to 20 people.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 06:38 PM
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To add on to your point: gambling in general, not just games. I rarely saw an online gambling ad until I started dating a working class dude, and then my algorithm was suddenly AGGRESSIVELY advertising sports betting and online casinos. Men are very clearly the target demographic for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 12:33 PM
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I would argue that black pill forums fall on the same spectrum as pro-ana forums, i.e. these spaces are not intended for social connection, they are "safe spaces" for an individual to engage in digital self-harm.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 10:06 PM
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That is not what "female gaze" is.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 01:38 PM
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And yet the only reason I have ever used an Apple product was when I worked at a tech company full of conservative tech bros who insisted on it. 🤷🏼‍♀️ The politics are super muddy. Like, Apple has a "woke" reputation, I guess, but it's pure marketing. It's not reflected in their actual products or business practices. All of the lefty tech people I know (myself included) have traditionally avoided Apple because it lacks compatibility with industry standards and they treat their users like renters…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 05:25 PM
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At the start of World War I, Admiral Charles Fitzgerald, who was a strong advocate of conscription, wanted to increase the number of those enlisting in the armed forces. Therefore he organised on 30 August 1914 a group of thirty women in his home town of Folkestone to hand out white feathers to any men that were not in uniform. Fitzgerald believed using women to shame the men into enlisting would be the most effective method of encouraging enlistment. [1][2] (Wikipedia) I agree with your overall…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 03:45 PM
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I think male friends need to do productive shit together and then enjoy the fruits of their labour together. Men tend to talk side-by-side rather than face-to-face. One of the problems with male friend groups these days is that there isn't really a lot of useful, productive things for men to do together that build on positive masculinity/community. I have a big extended family with lots of uncles and male cousins, and due to geography/culture, my dad and his five brothers grew up as best friends…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 04:53 PM
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Y'know, if you'd been less specific when making shit up, I wouldn't have bothered looking up the article I remembered reading about the NY Philharmonic specifically. Would you like to try to explain why black men are also underrepresented, even with blind auditions? Are black men lacking in terms of raw music skill? What is actually happening and should be common sense: blind auditions filter for talent so that women and minorities with raw music skill are not immediately disqualified from the p…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 07:53 AM
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The New York Philharmonic orchestra for example tried doing gender blind auditions many years. But every time they did, the result was only men were recruited because they were simply better This just isn't true. NY Times in 2022: Women of the Philharmonic Now Outnumber the Men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 02:15 PM
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If he genuinely didn't know he had a kid, there's nothing for me to be upset with him about. He can't have betrayed my trust before we were together, and kids are innocent for existing. It's more of a hurdle if the unknown child appears with demands for child support or custodial arrangements, but that's a practical concern that can be overcome. I'd be requesting a court paternity test and then supporting my partner to meet his responsibilities, if the kid is actually his. In my opinion, he and …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 05:41 PM
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I minored in linguistics and diaspora studies. I think you should review the results of your own Google search. "Code switching" is a linguistics term that describes when a speaker alternates languages or dialects based on context. It's particularly relevant for study in colonial/post-colonial contexts, but it's also commonly used as a generic term to discuss, e.g., how bilingual children speak, especially when one parent doesn't speak both target languages. Trying to claim "code switching" as s…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 09:22 PM
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This is satire/trolling, right? JFC I genuinely can't tell.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 05:19 PM
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Apparently my BIL has one ball, no prosthetic. My sister says she literally didn't notice until he told her months into dating. 🤷‍♀️ Some women would have an issue if they really have their heart set on biological children and aren't willing to artificially inseminated or adopt. Personally I wouldn't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 11:16 PM
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It could be an autism thing, but I have autism and have experienced this with male partners, so I'm guessing it has more to do with male socialization. Some people, but especially some men, seem like they don't understand that facial expressions and body language are observable indicators of their emotional state. For example, my partner would come home from work and be visibly grumpy. Stomping, slamming cupboards, being short with me, sighing. If I asked him, "hey what's wrong?" he'd angrily sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 03:20 PM
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This discussion comes across as intensely American. Circumcision is much less common outside the US and North Africa. I am extremely anti-circumcision. It has been my experience that women tend to defer to their partner, and circumcised men are very resistant to the idea that it's wrong to circumcise an infant. The strongest predictor for a male child to be circumcised is whether his father is. None of my male family members are circumcised (except for a cousin who was circumcised as a teenager …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 02:33 PM
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Yeah, no fault divorce is good for both parties. If cheating were a consideration for alimony (which I don't really have an issue with in principle), this would likely result in more alimony requests being approved, which would be bad for men as they are more likely to have and therefore cheat on a non-working spouse they'd be liable to pay alimony to. That said, when I hear men complaining about divorce, they often conflate alimony and child support. Alimony is rarely awarded and when it is, it…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 10:01 PM
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If you acknowledged the existence of other male spaces as valid sources of truth, you'd no longer be RP. It's literally pro-ana for boys.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 02:16 AM
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Critical thinking is a skill you can develop with practise. I disagree that people cannot devise answers on their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 02:11 AM
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Was Fred raised in a void with no churches, politics or wifi?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 01:14 AM
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Whenever men talk about RP, it sounds like what you get from it is emotional support and validation. Which is great! But I wouldn't go to an eating disorder support group for factual information about how to lose weight, even though some of their advice is true, y'know?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 01:10 AM
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Why do you need "a group" to give you an explanation?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 12:24 AM
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I'm Dr. Oz behind the curtain.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 12:23 AM
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Einstein's constraint.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 12:22 AM
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There are no women online. Believe me.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 12:09 AM
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I read a guy who said the earth is flat. All men are flat earthers proven!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 12:02 AM
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Boo! 👻
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 11:56 PM
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Of your female friends, sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 11:55 PM
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Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 11:54 PM
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A person has a negative experience and goes looking for an explanation, and some group with specific interests has a conveniently simplistic explanation to offer. You literally just described indoctrination 101. People with media literacy and mental resilience are more likely to avoid cults and misinformation and ragebait because they go, "Hmm, maybe there are other explanations I could consider instead of the easiest, most emotionally satisfying one being offered to me in my darkest moment."
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 11:42 PM
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It's not mistaking whether sex was had, it's misremembering the frequency of sex in a long-term cohabiting relationship over time. After moving in together, you statistically have more sex simply due to proximity. But when you think back on the time spent together as a couple, you have a lot more memories of doing not-sex things vs. early in the relationship when you spent more time apart.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 05:35 AM
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Women's libidos are just way more reactive/responsive than men's on average. I experience a libido drop when stressed out by my partner, which is more likely to occur when living together, sure. I also experienced a steeeep libido drop after a partner developed a sexual fixation on a sex act I don't like and punished any attempt I made to initiate intimacy by trying to renegotiate my clearly communicated hard limit. I have also experienced a partner accusing me of a libido drop despite objective…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 10:02 PM
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You have two jars and a bucket full of equal amounts of red and blue marbles. You randomly drop 10 marbles into one jar, and randomly drop 100 marbles into the other jar. Which jar is more likely to have 100% blue marbles? OK, do it again, but this time there is a filter over both jars that only allows a red marble through 50% of the time. You randomly drop 10 marbles into one jar, and randomly drop 100 marbles into the other. Which jar is now even more likely to have 100% blue marbles? A random…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 02:59 AM
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insert bike fall meme
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 12:03 AM
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So you agree with us. Those can be called trends. Well, I disagree that this phenomenon is unique or more prevalent among women, but I agree that people's dating decisions are influenced by cultural "trends", yeah. Asian women (not only them btw) really overrate white men, a lot. So much to the point of not being able to actually see how skewed their relationships look. Think about why that might be. What do those other groups have in common? Is it because they are SO UNDENIABLY BETTER than anyb…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 01:16 PM
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Every single type of woman on Earth has been described as suffering no from being “highly sexualised” But I wasn't describing every type of woman, was I? This is why "men's issues" will never be a thing, btw. You guys downvote me whenever I bring up how the Head Tax historically disadvantaged single Asian men specifically and completely ignore that point to imagine feminist talking points you can argue about instead. 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 01:04 PM
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It's interesting how defensive these responses are. I'm not arguing anything except the fact that historical and modern media depictions of Asian men and women have social consequences. I believe you have never personally seen an AMWF couple. It's interesting you felt the need to point out your white roommate's Asian gf was hot. That is literally what I'm talking about. EDIT: Consider - what if the Asian gf was actually his looksmatch, but you have an implicit bias that Asian women are hot? Ther…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 02:56 AM
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So I just don’t buy that Asian or Latin women are being exploited, or are the victims. I, uh, didn't say that they are? I'm just pointing out that white cultures have a long history of depicting Asian women = sexy and Asian men = unsexy, and that would be why boomer men had no problems dating Asian women, while boomer women tended not to date Asian men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 10:10 PM
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I did not say that Asian women are passive love conquests, I said they have been depicted that way in Western media/culture for a very long time. Similarly, Asian men have been depicted as unattractive in Western media/culture for a very long time. Now that white women are exposed to Asian men in media who are presented as attractive, more white women find them attractive. Pre-2008 Hallyu wave, seemingly normal people had no qualms asking me whether my Asian boyfriend had a small dick. Where did…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 05:31 PM
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And your male boomer friends grew up during a time when Asian women were highly sexualized following WW2 and the Korean and Vietnam wars, while Asian men were demonized as the enemy. "Orientalism" has permeated Western media for centuries, and it has traditionally depicted Asian women as sex objects to be conquered, and Asian men as either eunuchs or effete tyrants. A lot of anti-Asian propaganda in the late 1800s depicted Asian men as drug addicts and criminals. There was this deep-seated fear …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 04:39 PM
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Nice! I ended up going with an i9 because I already had an Intel mobo on hand, but I'd go AMD if I was starting from scratch. Better value for compute. I undervolted my CPU until Intel released a patch, so luckily I haven't had any issues with the 14 gen chip curse (yet) haha.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 07:42 PM
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Ooh, what's your first build? Expensive time to get into PC building as a hobby! I just built a new rig around a 4070ti super.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 05:05 PM
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If you are not abusive and you discover that your wife is taking active steps to protect herself from abuse you have not committed, it would be 100% valid to feel deeply hurt and falsely accused and you should seriously consider ending the relationship for your own safety. Next time you have a mild disagreement, is she going to run to her mom's and say you abused her?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 03:15 AM
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Yes, if I were a dude and found out my partner was hiding a go bag specifically because she thought I was/could be abusive and she felt unsafe, when I have never given any reason for her not to trust me, I'd be hurt and question the relationship. Next time we argue, I'm gonna be hyper aware of my behaviour and fearful that she's going to label any mild pushback as "abuse". Am I even safe staying with her? I can't be in a relationship where I constantly have to prove I'm not abusive. It's not pos…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 02:38 AM
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Not the same. Women are protecting their drinks from men they don't know very well or literal strangers. Women are not covering their drinks at home around their husband. The women responding are generally the sort of women who would not have an unplanned baby. The idea of a long-term partner asking for a paternity test after they tracked her cycles together and made a fuck calendar, or went through multiple miscarriages, or needed medical intervention to successfully conceive is, uh, fucking in…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 01:21 AM
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I would expect a faithful partner to feel exactly as I described above re: go bags. If a man insisted on a DNA test "just in case" after we planned a baby together, I'd be deeply hurt and question whether I'm safe in the relationship. DNA testing can prove that your partner did or did not cheat on a single occasion in the past - and that's literally it. It doesn't prove whether they have cheated in the past or will cheat in future. Congrats, this kid is yours! If anything, a positive DNA test op…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 11:47 PM
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If you open the closet and find a bag prepared with supplies, it's likely just a general emergency bag so she doesn't lose her passport in a flood or whatever - someone who fears abuse is gonna hide it better. That said, if I imagine myself as a man who discovered that my partner felt the need to have a "go bag" for the explicit purpose of escaping me... yeah, I'd feel hurt, especially if there was no prior indication that something was wrong. I could be understanding if there was abuse in a pas…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 02:51 PM
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There's a new moral panic about teens having sex every few years. I guess it's "homie head" now? I have this mortifying memory of watching Dr. Phil or something like that in like 2003 or 2005 with my mom. Twenty years ago! The topic was "rainbow parties", this brand new sexual thing all the tweens were doing. My mom asked, "what's a rainbow party?" assuming I'd know because I was a tween. I literally had never heard of it before, and that's how I once accidentally googled blowjob porn directly i…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 08:53 PM
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I received a 7" dildo as a gift from an ex and I was literally afraid of it and made him return it for a smaller size - does that count? Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 12:11 PM
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Men and women can agree on what is conventionally attractive (Chris Hemsworth), but don't always agree on what is "sexy" (Pete Davidson). I think Keira Knightley is sort of a similar but opposite example. Women tend to think she is incredibly pretty, but most guys I've talked to don't find her "sexy".
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 12:08 PM
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Absolutely! I feel bad for little Maria Antonia. If her older sister hadn't gotten pox riiiight before their mother was trying to marry one of her kids to France, "Marie Antoinette" wouldn't exist. Maria Carolina was a much savvier political actor and probably would have seen the revolution coming way before Marie Antoinette did.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 02:11 PM
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He's a comedian, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 01:26 PM
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It’s like Marie Antoinette telling the starving peasants “then let them eat cake”. I love how enduring this meme is! The quote is actually attributed to "a little princess" and appeared in a political rag before Marie Antoinette was even in France.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 01:14 PM
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You know what? You're totally right. I was thinking of one of the incel subreddits that got quarantined at the same time (and then later banned). Tbh, I think the whole crackdown had a lot more to do with making Reddit content more appealing to sell for the purpose of training LLMs. A lot of racist subs were also banned, a bunch of porn subs, etc. The original GPT model was made in 2018, which coincides with Reddit's crackdown.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 02:47 PM
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Was it a mass shooting or a rape guide? I forget the inciting event for the quarantine. Edit: Nevermind, was thinking of one of the incel subs.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 12:12 PM
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If you strike a match, and I blow it out, did I initiate the fire?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 02:09 PM
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men by and large don’t leave their families Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 01:03 PM
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Are you from US or Canada? I find North Americans are deeply uncomfortable with the idea of class separate from income.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 01:01 PM
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Women do, but that just captures who filed the paperwork. It has nothing to do with who caused the divorce. Non-married couples are more evenly split between male/female initiating the breakup. There's no paperwork to split from your girlfriend. You just leave. A lot of married men do the same. They just leave or start fucking around... and wait until their wife files the paperwork. Then he gets to say that she "initiated" it. Men who do that are shooting themselves in the foot, mind you. They'd…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 12:41 PM
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Please tell me of this mystical magical land where your average startup exec salary can purchase several properties.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 03:26 PM
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Nah, it's just that women's self-improvement content was aggressively tone policed in a way that men's content is only starting to be. The weird toxic positivity of online female "self-improvement" like HAES is a direct result of pro-ana content being banned from the internet pre-2010. Every single pro-ana space online in the 2000s was chock full of "we are literally pieces of shit, awful, despicable, horrible, etc..." Buuuut there was a lot of media attention after a few high profile deaths of …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 12:51 AM
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This doesn't account for all of it, crazies are all around, but I think a lot of guys really, really underestimate how often women are joking. Like, these are obvious fake profiles. Who the fuck would actually write that they are a pedo? "Everyone makes mistakes" sounds like exactly the kind of troll reply a woman would make to someone she thinks is trolling. How do you know it was unironic and she wasn't just trolling back?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 04:32 PM
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You do the test. If it's your kid, throw that shit out and never breathe a word of it again. Enjoy your happy family. If it's not your kid, file for divorce and refuse custody or child support because they are not your kids. The court will order a test. That test has legal power.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 07:08 AM
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the biggest source of pressure that men straight people face to conform to narrow gender roles and expectations no longer come from their friends or family, but the women heterosexual people they're dating and having relationships with Fixed it. Yeah, agreed.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 06:55 AM
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Asian men are very successful in countries that do not have a long history of social and state-sanctioned racism against Asian men that specifically stereotyped them as efette and having small dicks. Google "head tax" or the "Chinese exclusion act", especially look for old political cartoons and newspaper articles. There were explicit, openly discussed, well-documented state laws, one of the intended effects of which was to discourage white women from procreating with Asian immigrants (and there…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 06:55 AM
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In a one-off, yes, but not iterated games. Relationships and "society" are iterated games where your choice to defect or not influences how future games are played. If women know men are likely to always defect, women will play grim strategy instead of tit for tat, or just preemptively always defect. Both of those are bad outcomes for men, and I'd argue is exactly what's happening. The rational, logical choice in an iterated prisoner's dilemma is actually to play a somewhat forgiving tit-for-tat…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 10:35 PM
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Sounds like you need to get involved in local government and get those dang potholes fixed, no one would ever need help again.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 06:48 PM
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Have you seen a study or something where they compare single men and women without kids? IIRC it's mostly a wash; women tend to spend more on regular small luxuries, while men tend to spend more on big ticket items with depreciating value, but maybe that's changed recently. If we look at household spending, of course women spend more on average. Women are more likely than men to live with dependent children.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 06:08 PM
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Hm, you make an interesting point. I wonder if we could train antisocial men to engage positively with their communities by tailoring the language to their sensitivities. Like, instead of "politely ceding the sidewalk" we can call it "demonstrating alpha benevolence to your inferior". Same outward behaviour, but dudes don't feel like their gender identity is being challenged by the ask, y'know? Meet them where they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 10:04 PM
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Why is basic social etiquette something you need to be recognized for? None of these are things you do just for women - and if they are, you must be an absolute boor in public. Kinda funny to imagine some poor kid asking you for a bus token and you just bean him in the head with it because you only "handle objects with extra delicateness" for hot chicks lol. If we strip away the weird sadguy characterizations, all you've done is list bog standard "being human in public 101" things: Avoiding inap…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 02:56 PM
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I didn't say TRP hates trans people. I said I think it's funny they use a metaphor that doesn't mean what they think it does. TRP is all about defining and performing masculinity; "taking the red pill" in the context of the Matrix is refusing to conform to gendered expectations. It's literally the opposite of what TRP is about.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 06:27 PM
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Sigh. Fine, I will google it for you: 'The Matrix' Creator Explains What The Red Pill Really Is and Mens Rights Activists Aren't Going to Be Happy
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 05:02 PM
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Go look up who directed the Matrix, my guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 04:56 PM
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The fact that TRP relies on a metaphor for being trans will never stop being funny to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 04:47 PM
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history shows older men dating women 15-18 has been pretty common When? Where? What do you mean by "dating"? I've done research on historical censuses and a lot of digging into genealogies and old church records. Based on everything I've seen in movies and TV, I was really surprised how uncommon it was for people to get married before the age of 20, men and women. It makes sense if you think about it - it's only recently that girls are starting menarche as young as 9. For large parts of recorded…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 08:49 PM
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This simply goes against what a space marine is and would take away from the point And what is the point of a space marine?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 01:02 PM
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On the contrary, affection is so interesting to me that I avoid any relationship where it's not a core aspect of how we interact. I have incredibly close, affectionate relationships with my parents, siblings, niblings, friends, animals, community... Unfortunately, the straight male/female dynamic tends to default to men behaving in ways that diminish my affection for them. Such as believing that sex = affection. I am incredibly affectionate with the people I love and care for, but I have never m…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 05:31 PM
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I don't think Cassie Jaye's not bright because of anything in the movie, per se. I actually empathize a lot with her desire to humanize and understand struggling men, to "leverage her privilege" on their behalf, to help. Perhaps "naive" is a kinder way to put it. MRAs kiiinda supported this one Red Pill movie because it made them look better, but they don't give a shit about Jaye or her work beyond that. MRAs weren't ever going to fund her next project, and they aren't a reliable audience for an…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 10:37 PM
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Cassie Jaye isn't shameless enough to do what Pearl does, which is why that TRP doc tanked her documentary career and you forgot her name and had to look it up lol. Jaye reeeeally misjudged who her audience was. She honestly comes across as well meaning but not very bright.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 02:28 PM
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The central conflict of both DE and PS:T is the internal conflict between the main character's forgotten past and current choices. Player choice influences whether the story is a tragedy or redemption arc for the main character; the external world remains unchanged at the end. Are stories about conflicts that are not against another being "for girls"?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 02:59 AM
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Is Planescape: Torment "for girls"? The mystery is used to contextualize the plot and character, and the whole point of the game is the internal struggle of the main character and how your choices improve/ruin his life and relationships. The direct combat doesn't drive the game forward, and you are often rewarded for avoiding conflict and choosing clever solutions through dialogue. The plot is driven by a deeply personal conflict and motivation.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 12:50 AM
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You can't identify the external conflict in a murder mystery? Seriously?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 11:38 PM
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I dunno that I'd call Swifties "nerds", but maybe they are. 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 11:28 PM
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You won't find a lot of female nerds on official game forums arguing about the sliiightest math advantage of playing a vanguard vs. sentinel class for an ME trilogy solo insanity run, true. You will find a lot of female game nerds writing fanfic on AO3 or posting fanart on Tumblr of Commander Shepard getting her back blown out by Garrus Vakarian though lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 11:16 PM
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Are these girl games? Yes Can you explain how Disco Elysium is a "girl game"?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 10:41 PM
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The thought process you describe is normal in 15 year old boys, but for an adult man it sounds like mental illness. Yes, rejection hurts, but "they reject you AS A PERSON" is so dramatic. You only talked to her because of her tits, she doesn't know you lol. When someone rejects you in a harsh manner without reason, they are a BITCH. It has nothing to do with you as a person. Sometimes people are mean. The risk of approaching someone you don't know well is that you don't know them well enough to …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 08:52 AM
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Like I get that I'm annoying and you don't want to talk to me, but you can keep your humanity while rejecting someone. When a dude approaches a woman, he isn't a sad boy with deep internal pain about rejection visible to all who see him... he's a salesman and she doesn't want what he's selling. She doesn't know him and has every reason to assume that, like you admit doing, salespeople will ignore a polite no when it benefits them and only respect harshness. It's sweet that you're so nice to sale…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 07:41 AM
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The question is, "how often do you have sex in a week?" There are seven days in a week. That's the denominator of the fraction you need to answer with. 1/1 = 7/7. We did not have sex 7/7 days while dating, we had sex 1/7 days. 4/7 > 1/7 Oh my god this is grade two math.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 02:37 PM
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Never actually pull out the flow chart, it does not end well lol. My ex husband once said he was unhappy because "we have less sex than when we were dating". He rejected all of my suggestions, and every solution he proposed boiled down to, "it's your fault we have less sex, so you need to fix it." I was like, wait, I have data on this! Let me check the app I've been using for a decade to track my moods. I have a tag for "had sex" because obviously that would affect my mood. Maybe the decline is …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 09:21 PM
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My sister has gigantic hands and she thought the Seinfeld man-hands episode was hilarious. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 07:43 PM
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Do you think Grimes, Amber Heard or Tallulah Riley are "normal women"?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 11:44 PM
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To most normal women, Elon Musk gives "could murder me and probably get away with it" vibes. If your friend is giving off Elon Musk-style social awkwardness, that would be what's scaring off the maidens.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 02:45 PM
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I thought you guys understood sexual dimorphism. Isn't that, like, your whole thing? It's really, really weird that height is talked about like men aren't taller than women on average. I strongly suspect that all this height anxiety is a proxy for anxiety about changing demographics.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 01:09 PM
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Does playing GTA mean you actively want to commit mass murders? Damn, dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 02:54 PM
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women are more prone to STIs Because anatomy. Men who are the receiving partner in anal sex are also more prone to STIs.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 02:15 PM
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Er, yes exactly. Free bleeding is messy, not lethal lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/21 02:48 AM
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Go retake high school civics, Timmy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/21 02:51 AM
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Right, and people don't get hungry. They have selection filters and enjoy how things taste, but that's not hunger. Biology and evolution reign supreme: you have intestines, after all. You only eat because you shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 12:57 AM
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That's not a sex drive. That's a mate or relationship drive. The fact that you shit after you eat is proof that you don't even like food, you're just driven to shit out your insides. When people say "I'm hungry" what they actually mean is "I want to take a dump". I bet you think you actually like to eat food lol so self-deluded. Take the brown pill, open your eyes 💊 🍑 💩
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/21 08:44 PM
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I love this ivory tower conspiracy theory shit as though ten seconds of searching on an academic portal wouldn't turn up thousands of studies on things academia is supposedly "against".
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/18 10:44 AM
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