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CMVnamdeirfnotlim/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 08:38 PM
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You literally implied as much. I don't know how to take your analogy about BJs being the "only factor" unless you're trying to say standard of living is the "only factor" in REAL alimony decisions (it clearly is not) Please explain how anything I said implies that? I did not say that blowjobs would be the only factor, in fact I said the opposite. If you want to discuss alimony you need to have some sort of idea of the policy behind it. You don't seem to have that knowledge, no offense. Pray tell…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 10:09 PM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 10:03 PM
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That's settled then =)
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 12:17 AM
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Have you considered the possibility that those men are telling you that because they know that's what women need to hear to put out?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 12:16 AM
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If you haven't figured out what the answer to that question is by now, continuing this conversation is not worth my time.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 12:14 AM
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To verify the veracity of this claim you just need to install Tinder and make a female profile saying that you're just looking for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 12:09 AM
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I think the proper way to verify it is to test whether they are more likely to seek a relationship after sex than before sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 12:09 AM
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Do you really not get it, or are you just fucking with me?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 12:07 AM
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Of course it changes things. It doesn’t make sense “in context.” All I’m left with is the idea you don’t know how it works IRL and are basing your opinions off of clickbait outrage articles. What makes you think that? I never said that it was the sole factor in determining alimony. In any event, there’s always the prenup route, some states will even allow you to prenup away alimony, assuming you aren't leaving your ex destitute. Ok, then we can consider a sexual prenup, and states can consider t…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 12:06 AM
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Sexual exclusivity is just one part of a LTR. Many men would be OK with a relationship that's just sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 12:04 AM
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What? This is not an "exception" this is rooted in legal philosophy. That it's rooted in "legal philosophy" doesn't mean that it's not an exception. It clearly is. The government isn't allowed to violate your bodily autonomy in other situations when you're not hurting somebody else, but men with guns will show up at your door if you don't pay your taxes. I'd be interested in seeing the info on that. Jefferson said things like 'Congress had not unlimited powers to provide for the general welfare,…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 12:02 AM
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I read what you wrote. My comment was a reaction to what you wrote. You said that there are multiple factors that go into what the amount of alimony is, as if that changes anything, so I said that there would be multiple factors that go into what the amount of blowjobs is, as if that changes anything. It makes sense in context. Perhaps reread the conversation starting here.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 11:40 PM
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So you don't actually think that women owe men sex if he buys her a present? You take a guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 11:36 PM
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Fix what situation? Poverty? Yes. That's not considered a violation of bodily autonomy, legally speaking, so yes I'm right about this. Only because there is an exception specifically for this. Idk but I doubt it. The framers were anti-taxation w/o representation, that doesn't mean they were anti-taxation in toto. They weren't against taxation, just against redistribution. AFAIK they even considered to put it in explicitly as a restriction on what government can do, but they considered it too obv…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 11:07 PM
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The interesting part is that I had to explain that to you, even when I said explicitly that I was putting the shoe on the other foot.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 10:56 PM
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This is the start of a wonderful journey wherein you come to the right wing conclusion on many other questions. What did it for you this time was that you were faced with reality: you experienced male feminists in real life. If you got to experience socialism in real life, you'd change your tune too.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 10:51 PM
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You didn't. I'm just pretending to be like a feminist who would also act like you've said that a man is owed sex when that wasn't said at all. "Male sexual entitlement" is the term they use.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 10:40 PM
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Ah, I thought you meant more than men. If you meant that, then the proper mirror should have been "Women also crave commitment more later in a sexual relationship". I disagree that women crave commitment more than men. Really? Isn't it usually the woman who sprinkles hints that they should be getting married? I agree that if your life revolves around getting commitment, your life is sad sad sad. Totally agree. That doesn't even sound like a harsh thing to say. Do you think that a woman actively …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 10:38 PM
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Oh, but I don't think that the number of blowjobs that the man is used to should be the only factor for the judge to consider in determining the number of blowjobs she will be forced to give him after the divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 10:31 PM
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No, but you seem to think that men owe women a relationship if she gives them sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 10:30 PM
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I wouldn't say it's a "result of nature," but I'm not blaming you I'm not sure why you'd go there. I didn't mean to say that you blame me. I mentioned it because I'm expected and even forced to fix the situation. You're usually only forced to fix situations that are your fault. You're arguing theoretically, I get that, but you're also arguing against someone whose initial argument is based upon current US law. Perhaps you could make a different argument based in US law, but your initial argument…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 10:28 PM
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Try not masturbating for a week. Have your testosterone levels checked if you don't experience thirst.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 10:16 PM
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Replace sex with resources and man with woman, and be prepared for feminist screeching. You think a man is entitled to sex because he bought her a present? Mysogynist!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 10:11 PM
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You haven't heard of famous people having to pay a ridiculous amount to their partner because they need to be able to maintain their standard of living? Interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 10:05 PM
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I mean under capitalism most people have to work to survive too. Well, yes, that's a result of nature and that's not my fault. Under free market sex capitalism people have sex craving too. In my system you don't need to have sex with ugly people, just don't have sex, because giving 50% of no sex to ugly people means that you don't have to give any sex to ugly people. Just as giving 50% of no income means that you don't have to pay any tax. If you mean subsidized prostitution from willing partici…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 10:00 PM
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If you mean some rando she just met that night and took home for that night only, I don't think so. Not all, as usual, but I've seen & heard of many women who thought they were just having a ONS or FWB who developed feelings, whereas most men that I know ended up in this situation were already in love before the sex, as you say in your next point: I actually think this happens to both men and women when they are somewhat emotionally invested already. (agree) I will pull a "pro-man" opinion here …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 09:50 PM
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Well, there's a very real difference in legal philosophy when it comes to "wealth" versus "bodily autonomy." Under communism people were forced to work. That violates bodily autonomy too. We don't need to force people to have sex, just put them in prison if they don't give 50% of their sex to ugly people, as we do with people who don't pay tax. I'm a classic leftist (not a SJW), but I tend to view the "welfare state" from a more pragmatic view, rather than one about "fairness", if that makes sen…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 09:44 PM
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Women also crave commitment more at the beginning of a sexual relationship. It's just that women's relationship drives are higher on average at any point of the sexual relationship. I also think that women who have a lot of things going on don't care as much. That might sound harsh, but I think if your life revolves around getting commitment to a LTR, your life is sad. Agree/disagree?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 09:22 PM
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That is indeed a communist principle. There is no clear distinction between the welfare state and communism. Communism takes 100% of your labour, the welfare state just taxes away 50% of it. The equivalent in the sexual market would be to tax sex: at least 50% of your sex must be with an ugly person. The government indeed does not care about sexual inequality, but the leftist arguments in favour of the welfare state and communism apply to the sexual market. It's funny to see the disgust on their…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 09:18 PM
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The government redistributes wealth from intelligent hard working people to stupid lazy people, so it's only fair that it redistributes sex from beautiful people to ugly people. From each according to her ability, to each according to his needs. The proper method is not to pay them to do it, but to put them in prison if they don't. That is, after all, what we do to people who don't pay their due taxes.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 09:06 PM
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Yes. Men get hurt when their wife refuses sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 08:55 PM
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By having a higher risk of falling in love from having sex, and feeling hurt if the man rejects a LTR.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 08:53 PM
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You risk falling in love.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 08:50 PM
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You don't need to attach the label "truth" to a worldview to consider it. "Belief" works.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 08:41 PM
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Men do not contort themselves willingly. That they don't object is why it's manipulation, and not coercion.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 08:20 PM
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This is what I mean by intellectual poison. Christians have a different way of seeing reality than you do, and either they or you are wrong. Either it is the case that you go to hell if you have gay sex, or it is not. The same applies to other claims that some subset of people who call themselves Christians believe in. The claim that Jesus rose from the death seems to be the mostly agreed upon minimal Christian belief, and that too is a claim that's true or false, not "true to me and false to yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 08:15 PM
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How does RP assume irrationality? Irrationality of whom? Women? If anything, it assumes the opposite: women are sociopaths who manipulate men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 08:08 PM
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We do teach girls from a young age that looks are important. Even Disney movies do that. Boys get taught the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 08:04 PM
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We do have a deterrent to rape. It's called prison. Other than that, we could perhaps campaign for men to masturbate twice a day?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 07:58 PM
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If that's what you meant, then a clearer way to describe it is that BP has emotional objections to RP terms but they agree if you substitute the definition of the term. I didn't get that out of your original comment. Christianity, for example, is either true or false. It's not a "subjective truth". Either there was really a person called Jesus who rose from the death, or there was not. Some people believe that there was, some people believe that there wasn't. One of those groups of people is wro…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 07:55 PM
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I don't want anything from you, you responded to me. That I understood your interpretation was clear in my first comment, where I explained that this notion of truth is nothing but belief. What I object to is muddying the waters by adopting this terminology in an effort to be ecumenical. We already have a word for belief, namely "belief". We don't need a euphemism for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 07:36 PM
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So we now have objective truth spelled truth and we have belief spelled "truth". Very useful.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 07:32 PM
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Then why say stuff like "truths to them" rather than "they believe"? If you do that substitution in that comment your reaction should be "no shit sherlock", e.g.: What people consider their "truth" is different than what you consider your "truth". ==> What other people believe is different than what you believe. This only muddies the waters in an effort to be "nice" because you can now say things like "it's true to you" rather than "you believe X but you're wrong".
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 07:28 PM
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There are objective truths about personal circumstances, and that does not make truth subjective.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 07:19 PM
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and stop taking shit from people, especially women. This is one thing that RP gets wrong. Taking shit from other men will make you much less attractive than taking shit from her. Being dominant to other men is more attractive than being dominant to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 07:09 PM
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I don't believe that. For example, "The Wall" reads like a gleeful revenge fantasy rather than actual consideration of facts, especially for young college aged guys (like a lot of TRP) - how would they know? Because they have eyes and see what most post wall women look like. Because they understand that evolution has selected for men to judge the SMV of infertile women to be 0, and the fact that post-wall women are infertile. Because they understand that women are attracted to various attributes…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 06:56 PM
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Really? A comment that throws truth straight out of the window? Something is either true or false, not true to one person and false to another person. Person A may believe X and person B may believe the opposite of X, but one of those people is wrong. This "truth to you" business causes mind rot. Christians on debate subreddits like it because they know that they cannot defend their beliefs unless they adopt an epistemology specifically designed to make Christianity "true for me". They don't use…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 06:49 PM
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You claimed the opposite based on an anecdote.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 06:25 AM
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How do you figure that? You have access to better health care, better food, better travel options, better entertainment. You also have access to things that a king couldn't even dream of, like instant communication with your family even if they are on the other side of the country, and access to a library that is far bigger than the library of any middle ages king. The only measure on which you are materially worse off is your house, and even that is debatable because your house has advantages l…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 05:37 AM
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Whether your wife does it is not the question. The question is whether women are more likely to put on makeup when going out or more likely to put on makeup when staying alone in the house. It is clearly the former.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 01:26 AM
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I believe that this is absolutely true. As in women do not want to be seen as only a sex object. Women want to be with a man who can see past the sex appeal of her body and see into her mind, emotions, personality, and spirit and who likes her for the whole package. Part of it, but the far more important difference between being objectified and feeling sexy is who's looking. If the man who's looking is ugly, it's objectification. If he is attractive, it is sexy. Women do in fact enjoy being sexy…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 12:53 AM
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There is scientific evidence for AF/BB: women like masculine traits in their fertile period and provider traits in their infertile period.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 12:41 AM
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Likewise =)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 12:31 AM
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Dating is work, and even for attractive men it's the case that he can get a hotter girl in a LTR than as a ONS.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 12:27 AM
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For 1% of us. No. You are wealthier than a king in the middle ages. Stop whining. Income inequality is extremely high in communist countries. 99.9% of the people are poor, and 0.1% of the people are extraordinarily rich. No. I just wanna pool resources and take care of my neighbors. No. You want to forcibly take resources to "pool" them. Nobody is stopping you from setting up a communist commune that people can join on a voluntary basis. People tried that, and they all failed because communism d…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 12:08 AM
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Eliminate the wealth transfer from men to women, affirmative action, etc. Then women become dependent on men again, and average men will have a chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/17 04:16 PM
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There's no need. Just implement a merit based system and you'll have much of the same effect. Manhattan guy was brought in on a diversity visa.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/17 04:12 PM
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I don't think people are talking about Indian men when they're talking about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/17 04:09 PM
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Why don't you just let them pay?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/17 04:02 PM
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She thought that she was trading sex for something, but he ripped her off. If that's rape then so is going on a date, having the man pay for it, and then not putting out.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/17 03:53 PM
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100% competence, 0% ditziness. I don't find adult children attractive at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/17 03:45 PM
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Lol no. Communism has failed abysmally whenever it was tried. Not only does it destroy economic productivity, it inevitably leads to mass murder. Capitalism, on the other hand, consistently leads to wealth. A 5 year old can understand why that is the case. The nobel peace prize is a complete joke. Obama got it before he was president. Arafat got it. Al Gore got it. Enough said. The problem with communists is that they want to control everyone. I would be perfectly happy with separating the count…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/17 03:28 PM
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Correct, but almost all net taxpayers are men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/17 03:22 PM
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The side that's not in power is always libertarian, and not just on gender issues. When there were forced segregation laws the racists were happy, and the rest took the libertarian position that a business should be able to decide for themselves if they want segregation or not because we should have freedom of association. A few years later the situation has reversed: the state now enforces no segregation, and now the racists take the libertarian position that we should have freedom of associati…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/17 12:39 PM
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Bloops have become 90% RP here. Wasn't always that way. In a few years we'll all be 100% RP, except the bloops will keep their blue banners to feel like a good person.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/17 12:31 PM
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https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/tools/lp/Bo/LogicalFallacies/108/Illicit-Contraposition
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/17 12:27 PM
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Women are not independent. The state overwhelmingly redistributes money from men to women, and from productive men to unproductive men. If you get rid of that and you get rid of affirmative action and crazy divorce laws and state funded feminist propaganda, you'd have 1950s marriage rates back in no time.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/17 12:24 PM
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We don't live in a free market economy. Women would be pairing up with men immediately if we did.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/17 12:21 PM
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You must be very confident in your discussion skills if you immediately resort to putting words in my mouth.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/17 12:17 PM
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That's because normal sexual behaviour is rape/assault depending on whether she is attracted to you. When the guy goes in for the kiss in the hollywood movie, that's technically sexual assault. Feminists like this, because it gives women control over the state's violence apparatus purely on her say so.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/17 12:12 PM
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What did you learn in your gender studies class that is more useful to society than having you work on a pyramid for the same amount of time? I would actually be fine with paying students $20/hour to skip gender studies class. That would definitely be a net benefit to society.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/17 12:02 PM
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Unless you're in the top 20% of income, you're probably not a net taxpayer.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/17 11:55 AM
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If the person pays for it themselves then there should be no obligation on that person. If the state pays for it, yes, the state now has an interest in making you a net taxpayer.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/17 11:52 AM
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You are confused if you think you can be principled without truth. Seeking truth is not a sufficient condition for being principled, but it is a necessary one. That said, I can't say I'm surprised that a BP values his wishful thinking above truth. I'm only surprised that you so readily admit it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/17 03:23 AM
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Being principled starts with accepting the world as it is, not as you wish it to be. If you accept that telling your son X will make him more attractive, but you tell him Y for the sake of another man's daughter, that's principled. Pretending that Y makes him more attractive because you wish that were the case, is not principled.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 03:15 PM
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There is nothing inconsistent about it. The question isn't what advice to the son would benefit another man's daughter most. The question is what would make your son more attractive. Again, you may wish that both questions had the same answer, but there is no reason that the world must be so. Which advice would actually, as a matter of fact, make the son more attractive, is independent of how you wish the world to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 02:11 PM
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I'm not from the US. Do you have a link to a funny clip?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 02:09 PM
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The question is what advice could a father give his son to make him more attractive. On what basis do you assume that this advice must benefit another man's daughter? That makes no sense. You may wish that it were the case that the advice that would make the son attractive would benefit another man's daughter, but there is no logical reason that the world must be that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 02:03 PM
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What nonsense. I don't respect Louis C.K. any more than John Oliver, but Louis C.K. is funny and John Oliver just isn't that funny. I don't respect any comedian for anything other than their comedic ability. If what you're saying was true then sports heroes, scientists, doctors, and businessmen should be the funniest people in the world, when the opposite is true: most comedians have not accomplished anything except being comedians. There are lots of hilarious women, but their jokes often go abo…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 01:18 PM
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Just look at SNL of late: Tina fey, Kirsten wiig, Kate McKinnon. You don’t think any of them are funny? I searched for funny clips on youtube, but I can't say I found any. Recommendations?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 01:09 PM
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What people find funny is an objective statistical property of the human population.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 12:46 PM
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Makeup provides instant reward, diet doesn't. Most people have trouble delaying gratification.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 12:41 PM
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Yet some of the people who's evidence he cited said that he overestimated these differences, that he came to wrong conclusions and that he used faulty logic. No. You cited one scientist who said that Damore may have overestimated the importance of an already minor point in his memo, even though Damore didn't estimate at all -- he simply mentioned this as a possible contributing factor, a point with which the scientist agrees. Acting like this invalidates the entire memo is ridiculous. There have…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/17 07:55 PM
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It's about all of that but you're missing the most important one. It's not mainly about the sex (masturbation feels almost as good), nor is it mainly about the intimacy (just cuddling doesn't do it), nor mainly about the validation (it's not enough just knowing that a woman is willing to have sex with him, he actually wants to have that sex -- unlike women, who are content with getting validation via Tinder but never actually going on a date -- men really want that date), though all of those are…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/17 07:42 PM
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This is what you get when you make victimhood a currency. Women in CS get treated as the most valuable people in the room. In fact, I know several women who find that annoying, because they never know whether they're being respected, hired, and promoted for their gender or for their contribution, which gives them impostor syndrome. Now the question is if the Google Memo dude was correct and women are naturally unsuited for that kind of work or does sexism have an bigger effect and those stories …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/17 07:28 PM
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There is NO blatant double standard between two unrelated cases. LOL. How far gone do you need to be to not see the double standard between walking free for stabbing somebody and getting punished for grabbing somebody's breasts? Also, the evidence in the breast grabbing case relies entirely on her word against his. Respond to this thought experiment: would this man have walked free if instead of grabbing her breasts he stabbed her with a knife? I could say that this man walking free after sexual…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/17 06:56 PM
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If you have doubts about the study's validity then okay, go ahead, voice your criticism. However when you are trying to dismiss hard data then your own argumentation needs to be backed by equally hard evidence, something that goes beyond "Hmm, I don't think this data looks right so it must be wrong." I gave you a whole list of evidence and arguments, all of which you ignored or dimissed out of hand. The whole "swiping through pictures to see who I like" spiel works well for men but for women not…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/17 09:42 PM
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Both cases are from the UK. The judge literally said that she was not punished because it damage her chances at becoming a surgeon (translation: she's pretty, upper class, and has a vagina). https://www.rt.com/uk/404676-lavinia-woodward-oxford-university/
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/17 09:18 PM
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FOR FUCK'S SAKE YOU CAN'T SIMPLY CALL BULLSHIT ON A STUDY CRATED BY THE US GOVERNMENT JUST BECAUSE IT DOESN'T FIT YOUR EXPECTATIONS. YES I CAN. THAT IT IS FUNDED BY THE GOVERNMENT DOES NOT MAKE ME TRUST IT MORE. ALL SELF-REPORT STUDIES SHOULD BE TREATED WITH SUSPICION. Seriously, that kind of behaviour is exactly why I consider TRP anti factual and anti scientific. Because we don't instantly bow down to a self report study that blatantly contradicts observable reality? For example while I do bel…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/17 05:54 AM
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There have been loads of cases where a man stabs his Tinder date with a knife and gets off scot free? Citation needed. He grabbed her boobs so hard she was bruised and crying and repeatedly asking him to stop. He said / she said: "having entered a plea of not guilty". He got convicted for touching her boobs because she said so. Can't you see the blatant double standard between these cases? If you don't believe there is a double standard, then I suppose he should have stabbed her with a knife ins…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/17 05:31 AM
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While women on the other hand, have continually improved. What? No. Both sexes have declined. Are you a woman? Women have only improved on the axes on which women judge men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/17 10:51 PM
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If it's a man, yes. If it's a woman, child, or elderly person, then no. I prefer if people don't hold the door open for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/17 10:47 PM
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Three times. My interpretation of love hasn't changed. I was always aware that it's chemicals sent by my genes trying to trick me into replicating them. Jerking off 5 times in a row before going on a date helps keep the mind rational.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/17 10:42 PM
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https://www.rt.com/uk/406384-tinder-indecent-assault-sex/ Male medical student's life ruined. Meanwhile, an attractive female medical student stabs her Tinder date with a knife and gets off scot free because the judge did not find it right to damage her chances of becoming a doctor.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/17 10:32 PM
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I don't claim to care about it. Openly advocating for men's issues is career suicide, fyi.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/17 06:16 PM
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In the average hollywood movie the male star commits sexual assault by going in for the kiss, so unfortunately, yes, how the woman feels about the encounter determines whether it is a crime in practice. Point is that if she doesn't feel that it was a crime then it it bullshit to count it in the 1 in 4 outrage stats.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/17 04:04 PM
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That's stupid. Most people violate many laws every day. Normal human mating behaviour is technically a crime. Second, if you want to go the legal way then surely you would also insist on the legal process for determining whether it was a crime or not? That number would instantly drop to a fraction of 1 in 4.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/17 03:58 PM
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You brought up some of these criticisms but still concluded that it could be accurate, when it is clearly not. There are many points in the HuffPost article that you did not bring up, such as that the women themselves don't agree that they are victims.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/17 03:55 PM
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That's the study that the Huffington Post (!!!) has debunked. https://www.huffingtonpost.com/brian-earp/1-in-4-women-how-the-late_b_8191448.html The Huffington Post says that this is a more accurate summary of the study: Approximately 1 in 4 of 19% of a Non-Representative Sample of Women Who Responded to a Non-Representative Survey of 27 Colleges (Out of Roughly 5,000) Reported Experiencing Sexual Assault, Where “Sexual Assault” is Taken to Mean Anything from Being on the Receiving End of an Uns…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/17 03:48 PM
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The audio tape that caused the explosion was that. It was an open secret that Weinstein traded careers for sex. Even if the majority of cases were true sexual assault, the point is that they kept silent about it and the media isn't making a distinction between sexual assault and what is essentially prostitution. It's one big degenerate mess, and it has been for a long time. It's what you get when you push a narrative where sex that you regret is rape, but drugging 13 year olds and fucking them i…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/17 03:31 PM
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Hahaha the rest of that thread. It's a cult. Top comment: I posted something similar to my Facebook last night, it was pretty rough even though my discomfort in outing myself as a perpetrator pales in comparison to the courage it takes for survivors to stand out and tell their stories despite the social stigma that comes with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/17 02:51 PM
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No.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/17 02:42 PM
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There may not be a man who exhibits zero provider instinct, but there exists a range of behaviour. Some of it is probably genetic, some of it socialised. If women choose to have kids with provider men, kids will have provider genes, and they'll grow up to be socialised to be provider men in that family. If women choose to have sex with non provider men, the kids will have non provider genes, and they'll probably not be socialised to be provider men. The latter is what's happening. Within a few g…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/17 12:10 PM
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They agree when asked, but don't do anything about it. They're too busy eliminating due process on campus.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/17 12:01 PM
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The onus is on you to provide a 1 in 4 study. Then we can see what they defined sexual assault as. However, when even the Huffington post has debunked those claims, I fear you might be disappointed.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/17 11:58 AM
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You know somebody got convicted of sexual assault because he grabbed her boobs while penetrating her consensually?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/17 11:53 AM
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Hollywood is degenerate. It is also overwhelmingly feminist. Mix sexual liberation with men who feel invincible because they're male feminists, and that's what you get.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/17 11:51 AM
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That works the other way around. Remember the medical student who stabbed her boyfriend but was let go because she had a promising career?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/17 11:45 AM
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The mainstream narrative isn't making that distinction. They're just pushing the everyone is a victim narrative. The reason is that a lot of women took the deal, and they now feel ashamed that they took the deal, so they want to be on the victim side. In reality they are on the predator's side: they kept silent until the moment that it became a good career move to speak out. It should be weinstein + women who took the deal vs sexual assault victims, not weinstein vs women who took the deal + sex…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/17 11:39 AM
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You're not doing children a favour by telling them that they should be themselves. It's funny how the social constructionists are the ones arguing against socialisation.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/17 11:35 AM
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Feminism has liberated women from their traditional gender roles, but it has done little to nothing to liberate men from their traditional gender roles. That's a good thing, too: women have been getting unhappier since feminism, but men have not.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/17 11:33 AM
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That stereotypes apply to groups not individuals applies to all stereotypes.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/17 11:30 AM
1

You know a large part of TRP theory is really just glorified common sense and it's not those parts that I have any issue with. Ok, so one comment ago AF/BB was ultracontroversial mysogynistic shitlord made up hatespeech with zero evidence, and now it's common sense? Can you make a list of things that go in the common sense list and things that go in the other list, because it's hard to discuss with you if you change your mind every 5 minutes. The big problem with how TRP works is that it takes d…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/17 02:07 AM
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Do I really need to explain to you that the results of statistical inference applies to groups not individuals?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/17 01:53 AM
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Absolutely. Smart men don't sign one sided contracts.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/17 09:14 PM
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High value men with an IQ greater than 75 realise that where he went wrong is when he put their signature on the marriage contract and he realises that he doesn't need to sign the marriage contract and get burnt a second time. He have kids from their first marriage and after the divorce he gets a girlfriend. This is why they came up with laws that say that it counts as marriage if you look at a woman for more than 20 seconds.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/17 07:48 PM
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The sex that is in abundance needs to compete for the other sex. This internal competition increases the quality of the individuals of that sex, which results in you being able to find a higher quality partner than you could in the opposite situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/17 07:44 PM
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Men only get mad if they don't get love and appreciation in return.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/17 07:40 PM
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BS. High value men also hate that a woman gets to take half his life's work for the accomplishment of having a vagina. He may be smart enough not to vent publicly because he'll get the hysterical mob on his ass, but he'll vent about it to his friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/17 07:39 PM
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Stereotypes get repeated and shared because they are true. Stereotypes that are false don't get shared as much as stereotypes that are true, so the meme fitness of accurate stereotypes is higher and in a few meme generations they dominate the population.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/17 07:34 PM
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If there are more women than men there is more sex for the men even if the women are individually having an equal amount of sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/17 07:32 PM
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The confident men have the same agenda. They're not creeps because they're desired. It's a simple fact. I don't get why you're so emotionally opposed to it that you engage the shaming reflex. White Knight Oh.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/17 02:22 PM
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Actions are creepy when they are unwanted. The same action is creepy or confident depending on who's doing it. Women shame creeps because a creep thinking he has a chance with her is a negative SMV signal, just as a man having access to many female options is a positive SMV signal. That's why they are much more likely to call out creeps in public situations than in 1 on 1's. Until you drop your own entitled attitude you're gonna keep being one of them Thanks for admitting that you don't have an …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/17 01:55 PM
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Cities with more women than men. Universities with more women than men. A small difference in population makes a big difference. Going to a yoga club with more women than men doesn't help if it's the yoga club of a male dominated uni. Also choose a venue where you can get to the top of the social dominance hierarchy. It's better to be king of the ants than a peasant of lions. The guy at the top of the local anarchist nutcase group gets laid a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/17 01:44 PM
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Generalisation is a synonym for statistical inference. Most stereotypes are accurate; that's how they became stereotypes.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/17 01:39 PM
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High value men get fucked in divorce court all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/17 01:34 PM
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They will however criticise you if completely ignore woman you're not attracted to. This is called entitlement. When men ignore women that they're not attracted to it's evil, when women actively shame men that they're not attracted to because they're "creeps", it's empowerment. Nobody is entitled to anybody's attention, but people are entitled to not being shamed for behaviour that would be perfectly acceptable from a person with different physical attributes.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/17 01:28 PM
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As for me needing more evidence, the scientific method states that to support a theory it needs to be compliant to all available data while to dismiss it you only need a few verified counterexamples. That's a kindergarten understanding of science. If A is a theory then B = "not A" is a theory too. Your theory B is that women are not disproportionately going for a small percentage of men. To support this theory it needs to be compliant to all available data and to dismiss it I only need a few ver…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/17 01:20 PM
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For fucks sake I'm sick of Tinder studies! I understand that you're sick of it, because it disproves nonsense such as "Can you honestly say you've ever seen any evidence for this that goes beyond "Mike in highschool was an asshole and had three girlfriends in as many years while I didn't have any"?" and "It's a completely unproven hypothesis" and "the fact remains that almost all of red pill's core theory is completely baseless". If you don't like Tinder, then OkCupid perhaps? Women on Tinder us…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/17 02:17 AM
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The sample of any individual man is likely representative for future women he will meet, which is what matters to him. Can you honestly say you've ever seen any evidence for this that goes beyond "Mike in highschool was an asshole and had three girlfriends in as many years while I didn't have any"? How can you not have noticed this in real life? If you think this is a myth consider the fact that Tinder like inequality is far greater than US income inequality. All those "shocking" stats about the…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/17 01:14 AM
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MGTOW is a better place for incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/17 12:38 AM
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Extrapolation (or more accurately, statistical inference) is the basis of everything you think and do. You would utterly fail at everything without it. If you see 10 bird-shaped creatures fly you infer that bird-shaped creatures can fly. That doesn't mean that literally all bird-shaped creatures can fly, but concluding that being bird-shaped has nothing to do with whether it can fly because you have not observed all bird-shaped creatures in the universe is wrong. AWALT is a response to the silly…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/17 12:34 AM
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The curl is just the divergence of the field perpendicular to the original field.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/17 12:21 AM
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Applies to "scientism" too.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/17 12:11 AM
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By the time she's patched her psychology up to anything resembling healthy she'll be post-wall. There is nothing that can save her.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/17 11:54 PM
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Psycho is psychopathic, not psychotic.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/17 11:47 PM
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That's what the commies thought. Just like the commies you don't even care that your ideology is making women miserable. Facts always win over fantasy in the end. At least you realise you don't have the facts on your side. I knew that would not phase you one bit. Facts are a social construct that white males use to oppress womyn and minorities amirite?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/17 02:07 AM
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Awkward.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/17 02:04 AM
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No. We see the same personality differences in primates and to some extent in infants, e.g. toy preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/17 02:02 AM
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So now you're saying that biological differences dictate how happy men and women are in their respective gender roles. That's exactly what I'm saying. Mind blowing that we've regressed so far that this is controversial in 2017. What evidence do you have that suggests women are naturally more inclined than men to be caretakers? You can see that evidence every day unless you're living under a rock. Have you seen the professions that men and women choose, and how gender differences get larger in mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/17 12:59 AM
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TIL some people can't google.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/17 12:38 AM
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Political correctness gets rid of anybody with disallowed opinions. It happens even if most people disagree that those opinions should be stamped out, because it is irrational for any given person to object to the PC cult because they risk losing their job, and there is little personal benefit to speaking out. Terrorism is the advanced version of it. Rational people don't publish mohammed cartoons, but that doesn't mean that most people believe that people who publish mohammed cartoons should be…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/17 12:32 AM
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Haha ok you're serious. I thought you were just pretending not to understand it. Google "net fiscal impact".
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/17 12:14 AM
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You're insulting the people of this sub if you truly think they'll fall for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/17 12:12 AM
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The pessimistic part of me thinks this just comes down to intelligence and people who have better functioning brains have a higher time preference for achieving goals so they are able to achieve long term success. That's true but there are techniques to compensate for having a short time horizon. Develop the habit of engaging your rational brain if you're about to procrastinate. Force yourself to think through whether procrastinating is the rational choice, and if it is not then make an ironclad…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 11:49 PM
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That same person would probably lose their shit if the genders were reversed.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 11:38 PM
1

How does it not?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 11:28 PM
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Thanks. It's just a matter of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 11:27 PM
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Religion is a perfect example. The Spanish inquisition (and ISIS) did that because of moral fervour.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 11:26 PM
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As opposed to a claim that he pulled straight out of his ass and couldn't even find a random image from some dude's blog to corroborate? You can easily find other sources if you don't believe that graph.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 11:25 PM
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The same process that gave net tax burdeners and non-draftees the vote can also take it away.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 04:40 PM
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Libs breed themselves out of the voter pool while conservatives do the opposite. Sadly Drumpf slowed it down.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 04:30 PM
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Another fun one: inequality on the Tinder market is higher than income inequality in America. Income distribution vs Tinder like distribution Tinder Gini coefficient vs economical Gini coefficient of various countries https://medium.com/@worstonlinedater/tinder-experiments-ii-guys-unless-you-are-really-hot-you-are-probably-better-off-not-wasting-your-2ddf370a6e9a When will the left implement a sexual welfare state with forced redistribution of blowjobs?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 11:43 AM
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Because disposable income is a good indicator of how rich you are. It's how much you can spend on luxuries. If you want GDP per capita, fine, but then be fair and compare whites in America to Sweden, or even better: Swedes in America to Sweden. You'll see that difference grow from a few % advantage for America to a huge advantage for America. I am fully aware of what you are saying. That does not turn the Nordic countries into Venezuela. That does not change the fact that they have amongst the h…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 11:24 AM
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So they did less socialism and they collapsed less spectacularly. We're already on the next cycle. If Sweden was added as a state to the US it would be one of the poorest states in terms of disposable median household income. It used to be one of the richest countries in the world and they were also one of the most economically liberal countries in the world with one of the lowest tax burdens as a percent of GDP, but since ~1970 no more. Now Swedes in the US earn 50% more than Swedes in Sweden. …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 10:56 AM
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And their economies still collapsed. Socialism, not even once.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 10:52 AM
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Saying the word "hamstering" does not constitute a counter argument. That's why that wasn't the only word in that sentence, the rest of which you conveniently ignored. Imagine a matriarchal society where men are taught to stay at home and look after the kids, and are taught to not have any ambition. They'd be "happy" too, wouldn't they, because of their values in that context? No, men would be unhappy in such circumstances due to biological differences. Matriarchies also inevitably stagnate tech…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 10:44 AM
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Why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 10:39 AM
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Wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 10:38 AM
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No, there's demand as well as supply.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 10:35 AM
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They still are You quote that bit out of context and intentionally misinterpret it as applying to the nordic countries right now. Weak. No they didn't. They are still one of the most economically free countries in the world. Same here. No, they are nothing like Venezuela. Do you even past tense? You are going to have to explain yourself so you don't look like an idiot. Do you have a humiliation fetish?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 10:33 AM
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In most contexts. For a given person's ability to influence the world, they will usually do a lot more damage with righteous fervour behind a mistargeted goal than with rational self interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 10:30 AM
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I'm counting on the muslims and the amish.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 02:54 AM
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Applying "should" to desires is silly. People don't desire what they should, they desire what they desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 02:52 AM
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The women who are net taxpayers or sign up for the draft should retain their right to vote.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 02:49 AM
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The nordic countries used to be rich, then they instituted socialism and they became much like venezuela. After that they instituted capitalism, they rose up again, and now they're spending their capital in an increasing welfare state again. The cycle continues. Sweden will be fucked in 50 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 02:47 AM
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What actual data supports the idea that the "West" is headed towards a doomsday decline? Fertility rate and population pyramid data.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 02:45 AM
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The welfare state is class warfare of physically attractive men against intelligent hard working men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 02:43 AM
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Graph is misleading because it only includes discretionary spending when 90% of taxes are spent non discretionary. The military at least provides a direct benefit to the taxpayers, although I'd also cut 75% of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 02:40 AM
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There is a huge net tax transfer from men to women. Net tax is the only reasonable measure. If you pay $100 but receive $200 that's no different than paying $0 and receiving $100.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 02:38 AM
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Men give more of that to women than women give to men, in addition to providing far more financially (and working a thousand hours per year more should not be underestimated).
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 02:36 AM
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Men still have that value. Government redistribution of income goes overwhelmingly from men to women. If you remove that you'll see single motherhood disappear and traditional arrangements return in no time.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 02:32 AM
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Wrong. Hitler thought he was a good guy. Stalin too. Righteous fervour is far more dangerous than rational self interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 02:23 AM
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Women already have strictly more rights in the workplace than men, so BS. Stay at home mothers are still happy despite attempts to make them feel bad about it. The claim I asserted is that women aren't made happy by being manipulated and emotionally abused. Should I cite sources on the effects of emotional abuse? Using loaded terms (an attempt at emotional manipulation) is not a substitute for evidence. From that article: Different parts of Switzerland voted very differently. Unsurprisingly, can…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 02:12 AM
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You asserted a claim without evidence, so I'll dismiss it without evidence. What makes women unhappy is feminism, and hey, unlike you I have some evidence: women's happiness has been steadily declining since the sexual revolution. Even if it makes women unhappy, a claim for which you have not presented any evidence, I still wouldn't care. It makes me happy and I prioritise a good relationship over some feefees. You, on the other hand, don't care much about starving children because you prioritis…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 01:59 AM
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That makes ants the most hated group on earth.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 01:54 AM
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My mom also advised me the BB strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 01:33 AM
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I already told you how RP balanced out the bad: your woman will be happier if she stays in love with you than if you act like a nice guy and you divorce. Yes, if you do sufficiently good things it balances out. You'd still be better if you didn't do the bad thing, but the point is that you're like the feminists who worry about manspreading. Not giving $3000 to save a life is far more evil than anything RP. Suppose I put you in front of a machine with a kid inside and I give you $3000 and if you …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 01:26 AM
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If you murder somebody and then save a life you're less bad than if you just murdered somebody. If you diss a woman once in a while and save a life you're a much better person than if you are a pathetic pussy whipped nice guy who makes his woman fall out of love with him and doesn't save a life. If you don't think so you have a broken moral compass that is entirely based on virtue signalling. If you want men to forgo their own happiness because want them to treat women like nice guys treat women…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 01:06 AM
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Blaming the victim? If I have sex with a person only if they do a bad thing then I'm complicit. Of course giving to charity compensates for your actions. If you give an extra $3000 to charity over your lifetime you literally save a life, and again, that outweighs any small asshole behaviours you may perform in the course of your life. Your total goodness will be much higher than a nice guy, even ignoring the fact that your woman will actually be happier if you do RP.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 12:48 AM
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I would get a dog, rent a prostitute, and focus on other ways to lead a fulfilling life.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 12:43 AM
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Doesn't matter if some women are genuinely drawn to good people because there aren't enough of them to go around. Giving a woman what she wants doesn't make you a bad person, and being a good person is overrated. Give $3000 to a malaria net charity to save a child's life and you've compensated any harm you might do with TRP behaviour many times over. You don't go around obsessing over people who don't give all their savings to charity. You're like the feminists who worry about manspreading. If y…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 12:30 AM
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They don't want to keep it a secret. They deny reality because they cannot accept reality as it is, so they have to pretend that it is as they would have liked it to be. It's not a conspiracy. They just want to be on team Good. Also -- and this is a leftist trait in general, and very ironic -- they don't like it when people win because they change their behaviour. They only like it when people win "naturally". If a natural alpha wins they find that acceptable, but a beta nerd should know his pla…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 12:25 AM
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Your premise is incorrect. Women don't like to be in a relationship with a nice guy. Do you think losing interest and divorcing is fun for them? If women want men to be nice then they should not go for the bad men every time. You have only one life. If you want to sacrifice it so that you can think "at least I was a nice guy" on your death bed, go ahead.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 12:20 AM
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You should not marry unless your partner earns more than you. Marriage is a legal contract, and if it were a custom contract it would be unenforceable because it's too one sided.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 12:12 AM
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Both. Even if a woman earns $0 she won't be satisfied with a male who earns $50k if she sees that $100k males are interested in her.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 12:09 AM
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They'll invent a pill or brain manipulation technology that makes you forget that it's not real. It will be 10x superior to a one night stand.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 12:01 AM
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Porn is doing that already. The youngsters aren't having much sex because they are no longer listening to the priests who say that you'll go to hell if you masturbate and they have supernormally stimulating porn that lets them jerk off 5 times in the span of 10 minutes. Many relationships start with sex. Less sex = fewer relationships. You can get a dog if you want validation and affection.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/17 11:58 PM
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Partially, but not why you think. Many shit tests that TRP thinks are shit tests are not conscious shit tests. It's just something she wants at that moment, and she doesn't know that she will lose respect for you if you give in and find you more attractive if you refuse. Feminism is a shit test of this kind. An accidental shit test if you will.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/17 02:19 PM
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You've bought into the leftist/feminist idea of thoughtcrime. Only actions should weigh on your conscience, not what text you read.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/17 11:23 PM
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Only guy 4 really improved. Guy 3 made a huge change in his appearance and did everything right but it doesn't help all that much because in the before pic you see that his genetics are better than his appearance and in the after pic you see that they are worse than his appearance. It's like a woman with an inch thick layer of makeup. The makeup hides the ugly bits but your brain starts to compensate for it and it may actually overcompensate because you can't see under the makeup so you don't kn…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/17 10:37 PM
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For one night stands, sure. When you orgasm you probably want to get rid of the other party ASAP. But gay men in relationships cuddle all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/17 10:31 PM
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It's changing. It used to be that men were open to their wives because they were locked together in marriage. It used to be that the wife would support the husband in difficult times. That was part of the point of marriage: you create an unbreakable bond so that you can trust the other person with everything and that it becomes in your interest to bring out the best in the other half. It is no longer that way because women can just leave and fuck you financially in the process, so men have to pl…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/17 10:30 PM
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Not in public.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/17 10:22 PM
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That depends. A very high level of homophobia can allow a greater degree of physical intimacy between straight men, because it's not seen as homosexual. Old men in the middle east walk hand in hand, and sleep on each other's shoulder in the bus.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/17 10:22 PM
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It all averages out because there is literally a single tribe that got absolutely creamed by the rest of the humanity in the race to replicate its genes? Edit: you also haven't given any proof that paternity uncertainty isn't a concern in their tribe. I hope it's not another feminist's wet dream that got completely misrepresented. Edit2: Ok, so I took 10 seconds to look at wikipedia, and guess what: Ache men have fights with clubs when they find out that another man sleeps with their wife. Hahah…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/17 09:38 PM
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Do I really need to explain why it doesn't help the father to invest more in women who are likely to sleep with other men? I thought that you understood that basic concept given where we started the discussion, you were accepting that this idea applies in an agricultural context but you were dismissing that the concept of investment applies in a hunter gatherer context. Now that I've explained that there is still such a thing as investment you're jumping to the argument that the whole concept of…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/17 09:28 PM
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Just correcting your strawman.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/17 09:24 PM
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All relationships are transactional, they only differ in what is being traded.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/17 08:50 PM
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Women were against porn and many still are against it in a relationship. They knew that it would take power away. They gave up because you cannot control the dissemination of porn. It's a losing battle, so why fight it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/17 08:41 PM
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Listen to what they do, not to what they say.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/17 08:38 PM
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On 10 June Hunt resigned from his position as an honorary professor with the University College London's Faculty of Life Sciences[21] and from the Royal Society's Biological Sciences Awards Committee.[22] Hunt's wife, immunologist Mary Collins, had been told by a senior [at UCL] that Hunt "had to resign immediately or be sacked".
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/17 08:36 PM
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Wasn't feminism about equality by the way? It's Schrödingers feminism. When it gets criticised for unfairly elevating women it's about equality and making everyone better, and when it gets criticised for unfairly keeping men down or not addressing men's issues it's suddenly a women's movement. That feminism is successful has absolutely nothing to do with dedication, time, and willingness to do the work. The reason is that women get compassion by default, and men who ask for compassion are seen a…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/17 08:33 PM
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The famous physicist who got destroyed for a slightly off colour joke and the one who got destroyed for wearing the wrong shirt.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/17 08:27 PM
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When men are ahead it's men's fault. When women are ahead it's men's fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/17 08:26 PM
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They only wake up when it's affecting themselves or somebody they care about. It's why almost all anti-feminist women have sons. There is no compassion for men in the abstract. That's why men's rights is completely ineffective even though the world would be on fire if the genders were reversed. Imagine if an old man had sex with an underage girl, the man went free and then sued the girl for child support and won.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/17 08:21 PM
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That's not what they mean when they say that men are attracted to 70% of women. Of course they're not attracted to infertile age women. Women are not attracted to infertile age men either. What they mean is that most women are genetically attractive. If you wait till 40 that's your fault. Every woman was 20 at some point, and 70% of those are attractive just for showing up and not being obese.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/17 07:40 PM
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Thanks. It would have been a shame if other people missed that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/17 05:37 PM
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That's what the men in the sexual revolution thought. Your utopia results in AFBB, and when beta isn't willing we make the government force him.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/17 04:46 PM
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We agree. Culture influences just how much men don't want to marry sluts. There is no culture in which men prefer to marry sluts. Like height, there is no culture in which women prefer short men. Self-report studies are unreliable. What's more important, personality or looks? Put people in an actual dating situation and they'll let their true preferences come out. Put them men in an actual dating situation and make it 100% clear that the women are only looking for marriage and not sex or a relat…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/17 04:36 PM
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Damn, you caught me. What now?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/17 04:15 PM
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Lock up their women (divorce is harder than breaking up) Um what? Divorce is just as easy as breaking up. The difference is that you get 50% of the man's assets. It would be unenforceable if it were a custom contract. Unconscionability (sometimes known as unconscionable dealing/conduct in Australia) is a doctrine in contract law that describes terms that are so extremely unjust, or overwhelmingly one-sided in favor of the party who has the superior bargaining power, that they are contrary to goo…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/17 03:28 PM
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You're seriously getting your panties in a bunch over the word "howling"? Howling has more masculine connotations than feminine connotations. Howling is what a pack of wolves does to to signal to another pack of wolves that they're going to fuck them up if they enter the territory. Let's call it hysterical screeching instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/17 03:23 PM
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It's unlikely to be that simple. That's your argument now? This is just another way of saying that the value placed on chastity is dependent on culture. One, it's not. It's saying that what men will answer in a questionnaire is dependent on culture to a larger extent than what men truly value. Two, I don't deny that it's dependent on culture. The point is that it has strong roots in biology.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/17 03:18 PM
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Do you disagree with the researchers on this statement? Their data disagrees with their statement. Good evidence against the evolution hypothesis is finding that 50% of cultures value sluttiness and 50% of cultures value chastity. Also, why do you think, "where men would be looked down upon for valuing chastity" this would be true in some cultures and not others? Because your list contains the countries where feminism took hold. Slut shaming is bad, you're not a real man if you are afraid of oth…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/17 03:05 PM
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So the scale goes from chastity is extremely important to chastity is moderately important in cultures where men would be looked down upon for valuing chastity, and you call that an argument in favour of that claim? Of course women value chastity too, because it's good to have a reliable provider and it's bad to get an STD. Men just value it more, which is exactly what the study found.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/17 02:59 PM
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Congrats on being unique. The communists had their own bullshit theories about evolution because they needed to believe that everyone could be molded into equal human beings. They applied their theory to farming and it caused a couple of million to starve to death. Communism is not about pooling resources. It's about taking resources from competent people and giving them to incompetent people. The biggest disaster isn't even that the incompetent people will spend it incompetently, but that it re…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/17 02:54 PM
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Not at all. Post wall = past the fertile age.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/17 12:55 PM
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BP believes that almost everything is cultural. It comes with the territory. Communists believed that too because their world view could only be justified in that way. They set the bar of evidence arbitrarily high. If they can find one man in one culture who likes to marry sluts they declare victory, even though almost all cultures place very high value on virginity and there are clear reasons why that is a good reproductive strategy for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/17 12:47 PM
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You're not responding to my argument. It may well be the case that a child is more likely to succeed if the woman is a slut, but that proves nothing. We're not arguing whether slutting around helps the woman, but whether it helps the man who invests in the child, because he's the one who finds it icky or not. Your argument about multiple fathers applies post-agriculture, so it doesn't support your original point even if we ignore this fatal flaw.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/17 12:39 PM
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Sorry, not all men, only white men. E.g. http://www.theblaze.com/news/2017/10/13/michael-moore-wants-to-use-harvey-weinstein-moment-to-destroy-white-male-hierarchy/ They desperately try to expand it to everyone instead of taking a hard look at the degeneracy in Hollywood. Imagine if the Catholic church tried to pull that stunt.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/17 12:36 PM
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This karma is limited to market manipulation by regulation. Karma applies as long as all transactions within the market are still voluntary. There is no such thing as karma if you take a gun and give something person X has to person Y. Example: minimum wage. Leftists think that the minimum wage disadvantages employers and advantages employees, but that's not how it works. With a minimum wage the action of hiring a person and the action of accepting a job are still voluntary, so while a minimum w…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/17 01:38 AM
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Wasn't Ashley Madison full of fake women? Maybe this study accidentally studied fake women, who would of course give those answers: the reason is passion, they don't want a new husband, they want a monogamous affair, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/17 12:42 AM
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It's going to devalue sex a bit, but pictures of real women on the internet (a.k.a. porn) had way more of an impact than fake people will. Heck, the idea that it's ok to masturbate had more of an impact than sex robots will. It's not going to be a big deal until we invent matrix style virtual reality that makes you forget that it's not real. Artificial wombs will be the real killer.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/17 12:38 AM
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No need for the second sentence, it just makes you look bad. Self-reports about height are not even accurate, even though that's written in your passport.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/17 12:30 AM
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They all knew what was going on for years, and even after the scandal broke the people in the industry kept silent until it was clear that Weinstein was going down. i.e. they waited until they knew it would help and not hurt their career...and then they turned it into a virtue signal against all men. Privatise the gains, socialise the losses.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/17 12:24 AM
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I mean seriously, for the most part the women who end up without kids are those who have chosen to be childfree or those who didn't set goals and work towards then in an organised and logical manner. That's almost a tautology.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/17 12:16 AM
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Do you really think that a father invested equally in another man's child as his own child pre-agriculture? There was still such a thing as clothes, food, protection, or even something as simple as carrying a child or hugging it in the winter.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/17 12:10 AM
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Self-reports about this are guaranteed to be bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/17 11:57 PM
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Men go to commie groups and protests to get laid and to get emotional validation from women. Women tend to be the true believers. Ironically, the same applies to religion.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/17 11:53 PM
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The stereotypes of both men and women are true. That's how they became stereotypes.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/17 11:49 PM
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I'm not talking about Pakistanis, but about Japanese, Chinese, Koreans. It's partially true that girls are not sexually interested in money, but not entirely. The stable guy becomes a lot more interesting if there's no social safety net, and that's not just in a business sense. Women who are dependent on a man make themselves like him, and it's not all fake. It will genuinely increase the sexual attractiveness of the man, and also her general appreciation of him. If she didn't have the opportuni…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/17 11:22 PM
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Which asians are you talking about? What you call asians in the UK is not the same. Asian men are disadvantaged by feminism because they are far more successful financially than physically, and feminism puts a premium on looks and it devalues success. The asian men would be getting the top women in a traditional system.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/17 07:35 PM
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Also, many women don't even get off during no strings hook-ups Playing farmville and drinking sugar coke does not lead to happiness, but people do it because of urges.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/17 05:27 PM
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LOL this is so naive. What you describe can only work if women's sex drives over-satiate the sex drives of hot men, which will never happen. In the old system the qualities of the beta, namely intelligence and hard work, were valued. In the new system, they are devalued. Beta's market value is less in the new system than in the old system. 1+1=2.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/17 05:24 PM
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They don't. You're looking at the top % of men again. The same mistake as saying that most CEO's are men, therefore men have it better.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/17 05:13 PM
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The thought police will get you fired.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/17 05:04 PM
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Only to people you care about. There is no upside to being open at work.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/17 05:03 PM
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I didn't say that the cat is going back in. The cat is going to die, and a new cat in a new bag will rise from its corpse. The traditional system survived for thousands of years. A feminist culture is an inherently unstable state, and cannot last.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/17 04:55 PM
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Asian men would dominate the dating market in traditional cultures, but they are at a distinct disadvantage under feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/17 04:52 PM
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Feminism has: Decreased the market value women's looks Increased the market value traditional mother qualities (child care and fidelity) Decreased the market value of traditional father qualities (intelligence and hard work) Increased the market value of men's looks This will eventually cause a collapse, and patriarchy will be restored.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/17 04:44 PM
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Wiping your ass properly is an oxymoron. Would you wipe it with a dry paper towel if you got shit on your hands?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/17 04:30 PM
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Men are not attracted to infertile women. Not a big surprise in an evolved species.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/17 04:24 PM
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An alternative viewpoint is to compare the power of these groups under feminism to their power under patriarchy. Under feminism hot men and ugly women have more power, and ugly smart & hardworking men and hot women have less power. Why? Hot men can sleep with a lot more women, and ugly women get to sleep with hot men. Hot women can no longer easily get a good man to settle down with them. Smart & hardworking men in the provider role have to compete with the state. Monogamous patriarchy is a cart…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/17 04:18 PM
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Markets have a natural tendency to re-balance themselves. Women get paid less because they might be on maternity leave for X months =>We make that illegal => Women get hired less => We implement affirmative action to artificially hire more women => They get hired in BS jobs and do not get promoted because you can't put somebody who might leave in a mission critical position. It's whack-a-mole. The solution to this is to allow the woman to sign a contract to rescind maternity leave rights. Now sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/17 04:08 PM
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Half of them are defending their own race. The other half isn't seen as more masculine because they knelt: they're so masculine that kneeling only took away a tiny bit of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/17 03:50 PM
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No, the douchebag will get messaged by women who think they can change him, because a beautiful guy must have a beautiful heart deep inside and she'll be the one to tame his dark side.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/17 03:44 PM
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Most men on dating sites never get a message. There's your control group.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/17 03:43 PM
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