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But still not admit they have an advantage with them lol. Nobody would want to admit that yea I got this woman just by being white, but it's a fact that many people are aware of.
/r/seduction19/01/22 03:08 AM
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I agree, dating is inherently discriminatory in many aspects other than race (height, dick size, face structure, etc) and these thing also cant be controlled. Many people will have preconceived opinions of someone just based on race and there is nothing one can do about that other than show who they are and improve what they can, and see what that gets them in life: it’s pointless to focus on things we can't control it will mess up your mental state constantly. Also most white guys know this, th…
/r/seduction19/01/22 01:43 AM
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I think a lot of people subconsciously know this is a fact, but you're saying this on a sub of most likely majority white guys who are already having problems with dating.No way they would want to hear that they have an advantage just based on race when they are already probably struggling based on other factors.
/r/seduction19/01/22 01:16 AM
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Ok, I get what you're saying and you're absolutely right. Western media has a lot to do with it and people consume a lot of that all over the world. I would say most average white guys could get a good looking POC woman if he doesnt exclusively date white women.
/r/seduction19/01/22 12:49 AM
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I know that what you're saying has some truth to it. But I know a lot of black guys that have no problem dating women from other countries when they are literally the opposite of white, especially with negative stereotypes. My evidence might be anecdotal though that’s why I asked.
/r/seduction18/01/22 11:59 PM
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What is your race ?
/r/seduction18/01/22 11:22 PM
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You didn't make a solid argument against any point he made. 1.Cheating doesn't mean the guy will leave and in many cases he wants to stay in the relationship and is cheating physically with other women. These men often continue to support their family and if they are married getting caught is even worse because they would lose money. Hence phrases like “cheaper to keep her.” 2.Every cheater has to put conscious thought into cheating whether you're the pursuer or you're being pursued.The fact tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 09:32 AM
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It's a mix off both, but just find someone your sexually compatible with. I will say high n count women tend to have more sexual trauma, and it's not your responsibility to accept what you get from her because she had negative experiences with other guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 10:34 PM
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I disagree. I think women can be promiscuous and still be good people or partners/wives for some guys; hopefully not me though. When we watch porn and/or masturbate that's pure lust and that doesnt make us bad people. I know many guys are repulsed by these type women for LTR, but let’s not make generalisations about them as a whole, they are all different. If that’s not the kind of woman you're into, just try your best to avoid them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 04:00 AM
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The BB guy in this situation can't just get a new relationship just like that. And why would you bother to get a girlfriend if it's just sex your after: an occasional prostitute would be a better option because you have to get your girlfriend things anyways which costs money. The best way to avoid the AF/BB dynamic is to be with a woman who makes it 100% clear that she desires you outside of what you can do for her. There are many tests you can do over the span of 2-3 years before getting marrie…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 08:12 PM
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If your have atleast average immutable trait this could work. Otherwise you just get disregarded for your immutable trait before she can be impressed by your mutable traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 11:43 PM
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Dont be a "bad boy" or "nice guy". You will probably be able to get some insecure girls as a "bad boy" and not be able to get shit as a "nice guy", but try to be somewhere in between both these extremes and you will actually attract women worth being in a relationship with.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/21 05:41 AM
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This sub is used to get opinions of men and women, so you're going to see what men think constantly. However, I would agree that it’s useless to discuss this topic or even shame women for high n count. If you don't like these women just avoid them the best you can. If your statistics are true I am sure there are many outliers. For example low n count men who would want a more experienced woman or low n count women who would want a more experienced guy( I would argue that this is more common but …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 07:40 PM
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Are you saying most western women have high n counts or are you just projecting ?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 05:44 AM
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I think it's about the same, and most people just slut shame as an insult because of how “sluts” are perceived by men; without actually knowing much about the person. However, if a guy actually thinks your a slut or has proof, he will just categorise you as a woman for sex that’s not to be taken seriously or stop assisoating with you. Side note: there are also guys who don't care if a woman is a “slut”, although I think this is the minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 05:19 AM
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Whatever makes you sleep better at night.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 05:04 AM
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lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 06:16 AM
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Not to generalise but most men are taught to take accountability because no one will feel sorry for them, hence phrases like “man up.” If men were constantly complaining about “where the good women are'', manipulation or being pumped and dumped when there is an obvious pattern in the women he selects, people would laugh at him. However, others will be more sympathetic for women, probably because they are the weaker gender, I don't know . Regardless let's say you are right and men had the option …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 02:55 AM
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Women are picky for specific characteristics which make them vulnerable to people who will treat them badly and ignore the characteristics which would allow them to be with someone who actually treats them with respect. At the end of the day women can be picky with what they want and lower their standards on other characteristics. But the question I would ask is why the hell are you complaining and why should anybody care about what eventually happens to you. If men had the option to just choose…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 01:43 AM
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If your not confident in your sexual skills or insecure about this possibility just build and emotional connection. That will make sex automatically better for you both. Obviously there are women who prefer bigger, but that's fine move on. They are not the majority and statistically the majority of guys dont even have big dicks, so this is even less likely you end up in this position.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 09:26 PM
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We literally come here to get a sense of how the other sex thinks. You can literally do anything you want in life, but also live with the consequences.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 11:48 AM
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LOL are the women on this sub real.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 01:04 AM
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I see what your trying to do, but "simping" is a false equivalence here.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 12:59 AM
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Men think about it way more or will imply it, he wont just straight up call her a hoe or thot, in most cases. Women on the other hand will openly say it as an insult to other women. Even though most women dont even understand why males view "sluts" in the light they do. Women just know most men find it unattractive, hence it will hurt some women. Men on the other hand just categories these women subconsciously and most women will never know how a guy sees her.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 04:01 PM
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Even though women don’t like abusive guys they are emotional creatures and the “abusive men” provide some good emotions as well. That’s why push and pull is such an effective strategy on women; the introverted guy isn’t giving them the tingles they want. The aforementioned characteristics of the “abusive guys” can make sex seem really good because that’s the most intimacy they will ever get from guy like that plus the mix of positive and negative emotions does it for them. Form a guy’s perspecti…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 07:34 PM
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It's not about being a pornstar, every guy wants a girl who's opened minded when it comes to sex and willing to try new thing with the person she supposedly desires sexual. If this is being hindered by the fact that she doesnt desire him sexual or that she bring sexual trauma form previous relationships, it's then 100% reasonable for any guy to feel like he's getting the short end of the stick .
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 01:25 AM
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It's not about what she did in the past because some guys might not even want to do those things. It's just the fact that your bringing your trauma into the relationship and limiting what your future partner(s) can experience. Imagine a guys takes his previous girlfriend on date every week with followers on demand. Then you get into a relationship and you want something similar , but he's telling you he doesnt do that anymore because of a bad experience he had with his previous girlfriend. How w…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 01:16 AM
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If they are in a relationship its his/hers boundaries and/or standards for that relationship. Poeple expect things from a relationship and everyone's expectations are different. Therefore, it also fine for you to learn for you past and change your standards, but most of the times the sexual discussions for women are either trauma response or a woman that just feels like she settled. Regardless the guy doesnt have to deal with any of that bs. Stop throwing around the word "entitlement" when I com…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 12:41 AM
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Even if its trauma, heal before you get in another relationship and stop throwing baggage from other relationship onto others. In this whole rigmarole you have made no point your basically just telling the guy to get over it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 12:22 AM
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"Entitlement" , you cant be serious here.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 12:18 AM
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Most men dont even chase 10s for casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 12:52 PM
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Haven’t we already discovered that guys are rewarded for “bad behavior” when it comes to sexual attention from women. Perhaps women know it’s bad, but these men just seem more masculine to them and they are going with their lizard brain in these scenarios. A lot of men have adapted to get laid and some guys continue complaining (women like assholes or nice guys finish last). Regardless they are the sexual selectors so if you want a better chance of mating adapt or hope you find a woman that’s “d…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 01:09 AM
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I think a lot of men would prefer traditional relationships if they can afford it. But even then it’s unlikely you will find an actual traditional woman in the west. These women may want traditional men, but they are just conditioned to be the opposite of what this man wants in the west, so equality is the best way to go there in my opinion. It’s more feasible in other parts of the world, but it’s much better to not have people confined to specific gender roles like in the past. Every partnershi…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 12:22 PM
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Software.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/21 04:28 PM
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Money helps you with every class of women whether it be rich, middle class or poor. And status is definitely hard to get but you dont have to be a celebrity just network well and know the right people to get what you want. I am not saying it's easy to get these things, but there are many example in society of guys who have attractive girls by focusing on theses things.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/21 12:59 AM
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This is definitely not true. An ugly man can 10/10 girl if he works on other aspects of his life which is afforded to men and not women. Ugly men that have status, money, good personalities, and good at sex or just understand women well can get attractive women. Ugly women can probably get sex form a lot guys, but that’s about it in most cases (obviously there are exceptions).
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 08:16 PM
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I think I am decent guy I pass that 6 rule for the most part and I am going to become an engineer so I am not making 6 figures yet. I also have Chad friend that are hooking up with alot of girls and they seems secure when it comes to dating and none of us want to date a thot. However it might be true that some guys are just insecure, but I dont think that's the case most of the time. Some men just dont want women like that whereas some men dont care. Only men's standards are called insecurities …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 04:41 PM
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Lol I love how women just assume the man is insecure in these instances.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 06:40 AM
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Yea but he got what he want, she's basically useless to him at that point.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 01:16 AM
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The guy was an asshole because she must have felt used in the moment, but I also don’t really have any sympathy for her because she knew what she was doing. Some of these guys might treat you with respect, but most won’t if your just hook up; it is what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 01:12 AM
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I understand what you’re saying but women can’t just collectively change what they are attracted to in a man. Women are attracted to a specific character traits because of years of evolution and biological hardwiring. Perhaps they find these guys more masculine than the “good guy”, but for whatever reason men have to just adapt if they want to successfully date that’s why red pill is so popular. We can’t expect women to change when they are the selectors even if you think they are doing a bad jo…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 08:15 AM
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I think TRP and FDS has some good advice, but I realized FDS tends to focus a lot on the men they claim to be low value and they don’t even have a proper definition for what a HVM is. It seems like they are looking for a prefect human that would mold to what they need at every point with no compromise. Additionally they also have their occasional threads to just hate on a specific group of guys they say they don’t want. Both can be useful for the respective genders if you filter out the useless …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 04:18 PM
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I think this only true if your atleast a average man. If your below average this would be really hard to do or even impossible.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/21 12:22 AM
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I think women view sex differently, but they are also not that naïve not understand it form the guys perspective. When they do this they are doing it for their interest because they know if a guy found out they thought like this he would be gone. The best thing you can do is filter out the women like this the moment you find out how they view relationship and sex. Women will also hide that part of themselves the best they can so just act as though your completely open about sex and relationship …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 05:00 PM
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Your absolutely right men would be much better if women stop rewarding bad behavior, but the thing is 9/10 times they don’t actually hate the men they complain about every day. At the end of the day women will do what they think is good in the moment; the best thing men can do is focus on what they do and not what they say.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 02:36 PM
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I think women care when they want a genuine relationship. But if a woman is having sex with guys putting in no effort and guys she view just as sex objects. I have no sympathy for her getting pumped and dumped by the guys she want to treat like "boy friend material." Most guys want to have sex even if they want a relationship, so if you want to put guys in categories and they dont conform to your expectations, oh well.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 10:38 PM
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False.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 11:19 PM
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The dual mating strategy portrayed in the show.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 07:32 AM
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The dual mating strategy portrayed in the show.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 07:32 AM
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The dual mating strategy portrayed in the show.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 07:32 AM
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Those shows are mostly popular amongst women and they focus on many other concepts. This show however is a quick 8 episode series that focuses specifically on the alpha fucks/ beta bucks concept nothing more nothing less. And as you said the guaranteed sex scenes will attract people who aren't even initially interested in the main concept.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 02:00 AM
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He's literally the type of guy I am talking about. Even though the concept is very real he just cant believe it and doesnt want it to be popular like most women dont already think like this. The only thing this being popular is doing is making guys like him who know of redpill concept but dont want to believe it and just straight blue pill guys actually see how many women think. The fact that he commented that just means he knows of redpill, but he's clearly not.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 01:52 AM
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Sure many show depict women sexuality that many peope avoid talking about and even show women cheating. But this show is on a popular stream platform( which explains its popularity) clearly depicts the alpha fucks/ beta bucks concept which many try to deny. Most people dont know about Madame Bovary, and other movies and novels that show this dual mating strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 01:45 AM
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That just means he's not read pill ??? What's your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 12:58 AM
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I dont think they are complaining. It just confirms everything women deny. If anything red pill guys love this show because it open the eyes of men who are still naive and dont understand how alot of women think.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 12:56 AM
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If anything its should make more guys aware of the red pill ideology. Regardless of that the show is just stupid and its popular since it has a alot of sex scenes and nudity which is expected. Additionally it also tells a story from some women's perspective even though it might be fucked up. Hope some guys who thinks women are all still angels atleast knows of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 11:22 PM
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Oh I see. And yes these women are just stroking these guys egos by belittling other men. Its fucked, buts it's only some women and guys do this too sometimes, so it's not really something I talked about.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 09:15 PM
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These guys I know dont do this. They are already getting attention from women so they see no need to do that.Guys that talk down on other men are usually insecure and have to do anything to get an upper hand, even if it means bringing someone else down.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 03:23 AM
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Your boyfriend might be an exception. But I know guys that are having sex with a lot of girl and they still want low n count women to settle with. They just think promiscuity is not normal in women, but the wouldnt mind sleeping with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 01:58 PM
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I have the typical chad friends that act like they are super open about sex to make their hook up girls feel comfortable, but they tell me they still wouldn’t settle with a hoe. Women don’t really have to do anything to get casual sex: that’s why they view sex differently and why they are treat differently for it. Double standards will always exist since men and women are so different.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 01:53 PM
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I thought this was just a normal human reaction. However, the person above doesn’t seem to view the people she actually dates as human beings, but rather things to be used as she likes that only benefits her. That’s just the vibe I am getting I might be wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 05:40 AM
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Just different views on sex. A lot of desperate guys are fine with whatever arrangement.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 05:03 AM
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She's not replying to this.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 04:51 AM
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A lot of guys feel this way and women know it, some women know it’s fucked up and some think it fine. Regardless what can we do, most guys will never know that she’s fucking some guy on the first date and having him wait because she “likes him.” We can only hope to avoid these women, but it’s essentially it's out of our control; people will be selfish especially if they want to get their needs met.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 04:44 AM
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Understood.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 07:55 PM
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I love how you just throw out the “most men do it” to justify your argument. Which is false, some guys might do it, but 80% don’t even have the opportunity to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 02:11 PM
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Your right and most women will say they want a traditional man, but aren’t traditional women themselves. Society is pushing this but I think in a relationship if you’re fulfilling a masculine role the woman will naturally be more traditional as well, unless she’s some crazy radical feminist. No matter what they try to push men and woman are different and better suited for specific roles in a relationship and this will manifest seamless in a healthy relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 11:27 AM
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I definitely matter. I honestly think it matter the most to a lot a women. It's just another aspect of hypergamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 04:28 AM
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You still have to putting in work to get meaningful sex when your rich, so sex will always be harder to get for most guys. But I will say money because it increase your overall sexual market value as man and you can also get many other things with money.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 04:22 AM
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The top 20% isnt just based on look.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 02:39 PM
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Feminist of the past wanted equal opportunity which is fine. But feminist nowadays want equal outcome, while ignoring the fact that men and women are very different. Western women are not oppressed at all in my opinion and you still here some outrageous rhetoric coming from the radical feminists. Having a more egalitarian society doesn’t mean women are going to start behaving like men, but for the ones that want to they can. Feminist in the west just seems like they are forcing it at this point …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 08:49 PM
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I dont know if you cant sympatised and see this form a guys perspective or that you genuinely believe it's ok. Regardless its pointless going back on forth, especially when your starting to cherry pick what to respond to and we are going in circles. However I really enjoyed this conversation with you, it's one of the better back and forth that I had on here. I also realised that you have some other good posts and that your active on here like me. I am sure we will have some other conversations i…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 08:00 PM
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The porn thing is really irrelevant men will have a wife and cheat. Having sex with a bunch of women doesn’t really affect men being in relationships. Why? Because there is no loss to them. They can have sex with a 1,000 women and get them all pregnant. Men who are addicted to porn would absolutely have sex with women in real life if given the opportunity. All types of men including married ones have porn addictions. Also very few men are addicted to porn there is no way this small minority of m…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 05:54 AM
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But finding a man somewhat attractive does not equate to wanting to have sex with him right away. And having sex with a man early on doesn’t equate to finding him irresistibly attractive. The decision of when to have sex is a little more complicated then that most of the time. Your argument was some men are more attractive and that would make a woman have sex on the first date with him as oppose to another guys she's also attracted to but is less attractive, but the latter guys would have to put…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 04:16 AM
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Almost all men watch porn even the ones having sex so it can’t be porn. Also porn is part of the casual sex revolutions anyways, a more traditional society would ban porn. Porn stars don’t have sex with incels. They get paid to have sex it’s transactional. I know that men that are having sex are watching pron. I specifically said a porn addict which is completely different forn the average viewer and even then a guy still might have had sex or is having sex. But just because every guy who is a p…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 03:21 AM
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He can assume that. He probably should honestly because most men aren’t immediately attractive to most women. But that doesn’t change the fact that he is highly unlikely to find ANY woman immediately attracted to him and willing to have sex right away with no investment. Does most men that is tough that is why more men are sexless then women and why men having the most sex are in relationships. Most men aren't immediately attractive to most women, but this point is useless in this conversation. …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 02:56 AM
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How did the argument change? I don’t know what subset of women changed their behavior or what not but the point still remains. Women aren’t going to have sex with average men with low effort when they can just as easily have sex with more attractive men putting out the same effort. Men are the ones who leverage this extra effort to compete with more attractive men putting in little to no effort. So if a woman says she wants to wait to have sex and average dude is like no he will be very unlikely…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 02:56 AM
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I agree to some extent. Women have evolved to be the selectors because they have inherent value in the dating market, whereas average to below average man doesn’t. Hence why women seem selfish or picky when it comes to dating, but I don’t think this makes them worse people than men. Some women are honest about their vetting process and don’t lead men on; and when they eventually have interest you will know and the power dynamic shifts at this point especially if she starts to have sex with you o…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 02:13 PM
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This a continuation I accidentally sent the other message. Um If a man wanted sex with a really attractive hooker dare I say it would cost way more than a dinner date. And you wanna solicit hookers? go for it, I’m still not sleeping with you on the first date so… I was talking into consideration the subsequent dates that would be required not just this single date. And even if the guys cant have sex with a hooker that's more attractive than this date, he will atleast get to get some pleasure or …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 01:01 AM
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Um isn’t that just an assumption? If you are dating a woman and she is currently sleeping with another man but not with you it’s understandable to see it this way but if she’s not having sex with anyone currently then who cares? What is your argument exactly that people can’t change their behavior? If a woman ever slept with a man on the first date she has to sleep with every guy she ever goes on a date with? Are we talking about women, human beings capable of learning from experience and changi…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 11:48 PM
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That’s a lie. MGTOW wouldn't be a thing if that was the case. I guess you did say RELATIVE. I dont understand the relation to MGTOW. Those are men who are not actively dating anymore or just incels who refuse to date for some reasons. I dont agree with their ideology and the hypothetical guy I mentioned her is actually dating and hooking up with women. Everyone settled. Your perfect lover doesn't exist. Everyone settle sure but I said relative to the women he has been with. The women a guy is ju…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 03:36 PM
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Your right that men have a different standard for hookups as oppose to wife material. But the thing is the woman that the guy settles down with is almost always better than the hookup in many ways so relative to these other women its highly unlikely your being settled for. Whereas women "hook up" with a guy they know would never have a relationship with them and in most cases the only reason they are giving up sex so fast is to get his validation. Women often times want more from their hook ups …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 02:53 PM
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It isn’t, its simple sexual selection. If women started to select men based on n-count, if men were shammed for sleeping around and if virgin men were seen as more valuable for LTR men would have to adapt. It’s obvious that women don’t value that as much as men and some even make it clear that they prefer seasoned men. There are many instances of this were one gender value one thing more and the other gender accordingly adapts to find a mate. Even if a woman is having a lot of casual sex she wou…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 09:20 AM
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This would only be hypercritical if men and women have the same standards for each other. They dont.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 12:25 AM
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How is he putting in more work for the same outcome if he is getting an actual relationship with the woman rather than some one night stand? Even if the guy that has to wait for sex is getting a "relationship" (not guaranteed). That same woman is having sex on the first date to get another guy to commit. Hence if this is a woman who's not withholding sex because of her standards or because she isnt comfortable and likes to build a connection before sex then that's a clear indication to the guy t…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 12:14 AM
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Imagine a guy has to prove himself by talking you out and multiple dates, while random guys fucks on the first date. You’re just changing you standard for sex and this is probably one of the most manipulative things in the minds of most guys; assume it’s because we view sex differently. We are told to court a woman and increase or value to be found attractive, only to settle with a girl having hook ups and ONS with random guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 02:32 PM
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The thing is from a biological perspective a man has to increase his value to get sex or prove his worth to a woman (courted), and when he does get sex he knows that she’s invested. But on the flip side she just let a random guy has sex without doing anything; even if a guy doesn’t just want sex with you he will feel like he’s putting in more work for the same outcome or that the guy she gave it up quick to is just more desirable to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 01:54 PM
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I think traditional women would expect than man to pay and that would be fine. But I dont think a non traditional women is entitled to this; if a women is non traditional she should be ready to split the bill.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 01:06 AM
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I think some women are still traditional and it's a woman like that I would want anyways, so if a woman I am on a date with bring up that gender pay gap shit or if I knew she uses that to feel like I'm entitled to I would let her pay for her own food.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 12:47 AM
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Exactly it has absolutely nothing to do with the “gender pay gap” (which is not accurately represented). It’s just a man courting a woman and I don’t mind paying for that reason; it’s just the natural dynamic in my opinion. The gender pay gap argument always pissed my off, but as you said they know that they aren’t traditional women so they would feel guilty if they are expecting men to be traditional, so they just use this argument to justify it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 12:13 AM
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I think this only works if the guy has good reviews. Women would much rather add a guy to there body count if he's said to to be good in bed. I have a lot of guy friend who are "Chads" and this what they tell me. Women are very susceptible to social pressure and they dont view sex the same as guys do.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 02:52 AM
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Lol bro look at this guys profile for one second and you will understand his post much better.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 02:45 AM
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Well you’re right to an extent. The “bad boys “are probably more attractive and have more options that’s why they might be like that. But I have seen many instances where a less attractive guy who has the “bad boy personality “be able to get more women than a relatively attractive “nice guy.”
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 01:50 PM
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Every point you made seems like projecting form a woman's perspective; men and womnen are very different. Guys will always select based on looks, especially if he increase his value as he got older and can get better looking woman. However, I agree that as a guy get older and he wants a LTR other qualities are more important, but he will still settle with the best looking woman he can. Women on the other hand are know to do what you mentioned- date a more attractive guy who has nothing but looks…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 05:18 AM
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I agree with the last paragraph, but men will select based on looks 90% of the time all the other things are just a bonus. So if this correlation can only be made if the girl was really fat and loss weight, got surgery or just got better looking overtime. Even then most guys have low standards for the woman they will just have sex with looks wise.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 04:34 AM
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Yea men can be born attractive and they will be automatically ahead on most men. But I think a young average looking woman will have a higher value than this guy in the dating market. When I say no value or little value I am saying this relative to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 04:16 AM
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"Chads" can be made if you atleast average in the categories you cant really control like your height, face and dick size. But there's so much others things you can do to improve your attractiveness like getting a good physic, dressing better, taking better care of skin, hair, teeth (overall hygiene), and improving your social skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 04:01 AM
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I agree with you, but the thing is a man has to gain his value in the dating market whereas a woman is bornt with hers. Whether you average or really attractive woman you will have relatively high value in this aspect, but since men select mainly based on looks this value can only be barely increase (naturally) and it decrease as you get older. On the other hand men basically start at zero or very little value, but men have more control over the value they have in the dating market overtime.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 03:50 AM
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I was think about making a post like this, so I agree. Guys here are still looking for that prefect chaste girl for a LTR. But what they fail to realized is that women can take full advantage of the “alpha fucks “ part of their dual mating strategy with the introduction of contraceptives and the promotion of sexual liberation. Therefore, it very difficult for guys to find a girl who’s a virgin or doesn’t have a high n-count; the next best thing to do is optimize your dating strategy and adapt to…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 02:26 PM
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Its not really comparing. Everyone wants to be adventurous sexual with their partner and try new things with them; assume you actually want the person sexually. And your last paragraph is a perfect description of trauma. You need to heal from these "bad experiences " or you just bring it into your new relationships and your partner have to deal with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 05:10 AM
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I understand what your saying, but a sexual act is usually ruined by a previous partner who is just not very attentive or only cares for their pleasure. Doing this with a new partner can be a whole different experience and if the new person isnt even afford that oppurtunity because of the last person I believe this is an ok reason to break up.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 03:19 AM
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Sexual desire. If your getting vanilla transactions sex and your constantly initiating, she's probably settling for you. If a woman desire you sexually she will initiate just as much as you or more depending on her sex drive and be willing to try many new things in the bedroom.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 11:53 PM
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Regardless of looks you should be ok with being alone and be able to find happiness in other aspects of life. And the bottom 30% of men have constantly contributed to society despite being at a disadvantage. Whether your the top 20% of men having sex with all the women or a bottom 30% virgin, as man your not allowed to be complacent and you still have to get shit done.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 07:14 PM
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Probably not the men you know. But most men are not in a relationship and are not getting consistent sex. However I agree that most women aren't single long, some them also have guys on standby.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 10:41 PM
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How red pill presents female nature is 100% facts, but the reason why people fail to accept it is because it too harsh and can be made to make women look like bad people. A lot of guys know red pill ideology, but is too scared to implement it and a lot of women know it’s true but just can’t seem to see herself in that light and therefore convince herself that she must be different. What we need to understand that female nature is not a bad thing, both genders can be equally selfish when it comes…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 04:21 AM
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I don’t think legalizing prostitution will give men power in the dating game, but it will take power from women in this aspect and make it easier for men who actually want to date. There would be less simps and undateable men trying to date. And even though prostitution is not the best thing it’s better than chronic porn + masturbation and sexual frustrated men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 02:38 AM
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I understand what you’re saying, but most women are not having good sex, so just understand what she like and be more attentive: you will automatically be better than like 80% of men. And if a woman shames you for bad sex if you’re trying to get better or that you came quick; she’s just not the woman for you, move on. As it relates to pregnancy there are so much changes that happens to a woman’s body and if she’s not in a supportive environment it can be really bad for her, plus women are more s…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 03:20 PM
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Porn is very addicted super stimulus which affects men way more than women. Especially when combined with masturbation that guy’s body is thinking he’s having sex with 10//10 girls every time. The guy is then unmotivated to improve himself to find a mate and depending on the porn he is watching he might not even find the average woman attractive. However, I agree that it’s a symptom to some extent but I think it much more of a cause.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 07:08 PM
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Women have babies for deadbeats and bums all the time and expect him to change and even want relationships with these men. But I agree that sexual desirability is what really matters and women today can be poor selector becuase of contraceptive a not face consequences most times.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 03:12 AM
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It is settling though. What why find attractive changes as you get older because women have to adapt. If you don’t find a guy attractive at your peak you’re settling on a sexual desirability aspect. However women will take this trade of as they get older for other desirable traits (e.g. money) especially if they want children. Some men are however fine with this, but the selector that matters most is sexual desirability and a lot of women settle in this aspect whether you’d like to admit it or n…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 03:59 PM
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I agree, but I think this is necessary for both genders. Women being the weaker gender and having more consequence with having sex (child birth & higher chance of STI) have to adapt in some way, hence why women are selectors. This is not even unique to our species males are forced to be better in many animal kingdoms to attract a mate. This invisible burden of performance put on men has caused us develop society (patriarchal) and evolve as people.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 03:18 PM
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I have realized your cherry picking what to reply to but ok. And I don’t know you irl so I wouldn’t know if you’re a moral person or not I am just speaking on this topic. Good people do bad things, and bad people do good things all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/21 12:56 PM
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The main point is why are making the guy your interesting in wait; it’s all about your intentions. If a guy likes you he doesn’t mind waiting if for example you don’t feel comfortable. However, your past behaviors suggest this isn’t the case. Women often time withhold sex form guys they are interested in to leverage it against him or to act as though she modest when that’s not the case. I can’t bother to go back and forth, but don’t be somebody you’re not to deceive someone. You’re either the gi…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/21 06:30 AM
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You’re missing the whole point, it’s not about if you have sex or not. But whether you would give it up to some random guy quick and have the guy you want to commit wait. It just seems like you prefer quantity as oppose to a long term relationship: I might be misunderstanding.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/21 03:57 AM
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Your right, but which quality man would respect that dynamic. Maybe you will find a guy that's desperate, but no "HVM" would settle with a woman who has selective standards, especially if it's not benefiting him.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/21 01:01 AM
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This is exactly how I see it, the woman’s logic from a man’s perspective seems contradictory. This is just because we view sex differently I assume. Men have to raise their value and put in work to get sex because women are hypergamous which is fine, but in that vein a guy would feel bad if a woman was doing this with him and give it up easily to some random guy. On the other hand men will give the woman they actually are interested in what they want e.g commit, invested time and resources.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 03:28 PM
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I understand what your saying, but some women will withold sex to get what they want from some guys or to make themselves seem "modest," to make him commit long term. However, I understand you perspective and seems a little different from what most guys would expect. And I suppose some guys would take it slow with women they like just because they dont want to mess it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 11:27 AM
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Its not that most guys wouldn't mind waiting, it just that you have dfferent standards for different guys, when they both want sex. A guy will take you on multiple dates, invest time,resources and wait if he likes you, but if he found out you just have sex with guys on the first date with them not doing much , even if he see you as a long term partner, he will naturally feel like he's getting short end of the stick.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 09:07 AM
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You might not understand, but alot of guys fear this dynamic especially if he's interested in you for a long term relationship. This is because men view sex different from how women do simple as that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 12:02 AM
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Attraction is based on the person .....so if she doesnt have that intial attraction to him to have sex on first or second date I understand why a guy would just move on to someone else that does. Imagine having to do more for the samething.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 11:38 PM
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Yea i always think about this. Younger females always want to date older, because the guy is mature( more experienced and acomplished), so two people are at their peak sexual market value are bacically dating. And another thing is that in both senarios the man is blamed for grooming or some other shit. I think this is just pushed by women who are passing the wall and realise guys their age dont want them. However, this propaganda will only work on the betas to force them into marriage with a wom…
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