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Debatenatwofian/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 08:23 PM
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You called them 'economic' migrants. What a coincidence that these economic migrants all happen to come from countries with ongoing conflicts, past conflicts that recently ended, or records of oppression and human rights violations. If they claimed asylum in the first safe country they arrived in, then that countries immigration service wouldn't be able to process all of the claims they were receiving, and asylum seekers would have to wait even longer than they already do. One way people get aro…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 11:34 AM
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I've had Somali's point a gun at me, say racist stuff and march me out of a neighborhood before As for Afghans, I had a girls uncle threaten to murder me... and her, despite my willinness to joing their religion. His primary issue was my race. I was even starting to learn pashto. I don't doubt it, both groups are still more likely to commit crimes, my point was just that so many others are too, some to a much greater to degree, despite they or their parents growing up in countries where war, ext…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 10:21 PM
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So the Soviet Union, the prime example of an atheistic state of the modern period, just 'didn't think that religion was important'? That's funny, I thought they murdered tens of thousands of Orthodox Priests and decimated the Muslim clergy too. Not to mention the 'deportations', which much of the population didn't survive.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 10:16 PM
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So the Soviet Union, the prime example of an atheistic state of the modern period, just 'didn't think that religion was important'? That's funny, I thought they murdered tens of thousands of Orthodox Priests and decimated the Muslim clergy too. Not to mention the 'deportations', which much of the population didn't survive.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 10:16 PM
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Over 80% of the migrants who crossed the channel up to June of this year are from the following societies, in descending order: Afghanistan, Iran, Turkey, Vietnam, Syria, Eritrea, Iraq and Sudan. Of these, the Turks and Vietnamese are almost certainly economic migrants, or at least they have no genuine claim to asylum in most cases. As for the other 60%, the asylum applications of Afghans and Syrians are almost always accepted because of the Taliban persecution and the Assad governments persecut…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 10:09 PM
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Afghans Afghan immigrants in Germany are less likely to commit crime than North Africans: Moroccans, Tunisians, and Algerians. There are also several groups in America who commit crimes at much higher rates than Afghans, but if you were to describe them in the terms you have described Afghans, the mods of this and every other sub would ban you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 09:50 PM
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No religious group, country, or culture has historically supported LGBTQ. Activists and their supporters like to pretend that countries who object to their sexual preferences and identities are stuck in stone age or something. The reality is that most people across the world, no matter their religion, nation or culture, object to the LGBTQ movement.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 09:43 PM
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Non-binary people I doubt they hate non-binary people, given that with the exception of prostitutes, no one identifies as non-binary or transgender in countries where such things aren't promoted to adolescents and vulnerable adults.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 09:40 PM
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I understand the criticism of Arabs and Palestinians and preferring Israel out of a perceived similarity between Israel and the U.S., but for someone who isn't Israeli and has no vested interest in the conflict, how can you say that you firmly support Israel? The Israeli state doesn't care about you, they don't have your interests in mind, and the current government and its supporters believe that you are inferior to them for the mere fact that you aren't Jewish. The actions they have taken in G…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 09:36 PM
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Until recently, gay and 'queer' rights were properly recognized as a fringe issue, and although most the left weren't opposed to those movements, no one really cared that much. The left, and people in general, think that the right to shelter is more important than the 'right' to date someone of the same sex, which has never been recognized as right, given that there is no evidence of consensual same-sex relationships even existing until the modern period. Your argument is hypocritical as well. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 09:21 PM
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Atheistic or irreligious movements like socialism and nationalism have a much bloodier history than any major religion.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 09:02 PM
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No, I just hate when single mothers pretend that they aren't also responsible by LETTING random men get them pregnant and then expecting average guys and the state to bail them out.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 06:01 PM
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You listed all their qualities, but since your their friend you can't be trusted to judge them. Of course you think your friend has a good sense of humor. Yup you're right about finola, she is the girl equivalent of a violent guy, crazy and a gigathot.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 12:35 PM
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Yep, and women go for the chads and bad boys and naively expect these men to commit to them. Chad didn't pick you, too bad. Don't expect the average men that you ignored to raise his sons.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 12:29 PM
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Because these women are your friends so you look over their negative qualities. And you just don't happen to have a friend who is a single mother or gigathot.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 12:26 PM
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No we should encourage men to not abandon their child. Men in general don't abandon their children, but a lot of women go for same type of 'bad boy' who predictably ends up abandoning them. Women should be held responsible choosing these kinds of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 12:21 PM
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keeping your legs closed That's too much to ask for modern women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 12:17 PM
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single moms can still have kids with these men, Often they don't though, because they aren't as attracted to their new husband/bf.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 12:06 PM
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it's hard to distinguish bluepilled men from women because bluepilled men just say whatever is in women's interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 09:11 PM
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undeniable, look at the rate women get murdered in both countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 08:28 PM
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You see women with dignity and assume they are oppressed because they aren't a 304
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 08:19 PM
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No, people rise up against corrupt societies all the time, plus there will other countries looking to intervene once the uprising reaches a certain point.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 08:17 PM
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Safer for women than the U.S by far.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 08:14 PM
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I'm saying that the U.S isn't a society worth fighting for.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 08:14 PM
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Nope, not a problem when the society is rotten and irredeemable like the U.S
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 08:11 PM
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you're misunderstanding, for me treating women right just means preventing them from becoming victims of random violence in the street. China, Gulf states, Saudi, Eastern Europe all do that just fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 08:09 PM
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If enough men resist, there would just be an uprising. You underestimate how unmotivated men are to die for causes that are immoral and mean nothing, for a society that hates men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 08:06 PM
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Well if western women aren't just hypergamous why do they spend their prime chasing chads?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 08:04 PM
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Nah I mean it. As long as you exclude the countries that were ruined by U.S and Israeli funded jihadists.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 08:03 PM
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Whatever their situation is, it can't be worse than getting blown up for Greater Israel.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 08:00 PM
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All of Asia, the Middle East, Eastern Europe.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 07:58 PM
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Not really, i don't think the difference in body count between men and women really differs that much. A small proportion of men are having all the sex in the U.S just like in China or anywhere else.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 07:56 PM
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Just don't complain about men treating you like a fleshlight then.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 07:55 PM
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No response then?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 07:54 PM
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No one thinks that women shouldn't be able to choose who they marry wtf.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 07:54 PM
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chinese hypergamy. China still has the means to easily force monogamy on women, it will be much more difficult in Europe/U.S if it ever happens at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 07:47 PM
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You will just get sent to Ukraine or Israel to die in another pointless war that just serves to fuck up the world even more.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 07:45 PM
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conscription They can't actually enforce conscription when men are unwilling to fight wars. What would they do, put millions of men in prison? In the past it was easy to rile up people to support foreign wars, but since the U.S has fucked over so many countries by supporting Israel, financing jihadist terrorism, and invading countries on false pretenses, no one is falling for that bs anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 07:44 PM
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Shithole You are the ones turning the U.S into a shithole by becoming single mothers and feminizing your male children.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 07:42 PM
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Countries that are decent and actually respect women ban porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 07:41 PM
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Every statement has context, it would have been useful for him to state it more clearly but it's still clear that widows are excluded.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 07:39 PM
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The guy who owns the youtube channel is obviously aiming the videos at men, but the tiktok videos themselves are aimed at women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 07:37 PM
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They are, because they get welfare in addition to mandatory child support, not to mention they can just lead men on to get free dinner and drinks on dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 07:36 PM
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The fat women also think that this guy is gross, but they are just too cowardly to say so.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 07:34 PM
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You have no problem being used like a fleshlight by men as long as they are physically attractive and charismatic.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 07:34 PM
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Those guys usually get girls by being obnoxious or douchy, that can work as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 07:32 PM
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You obviously did, your original post had nothing to do with communication difficulties. How does not working out what women are attracted to make you autistic? You just wanted to insult these kinds of men, and like a lot of people autistic was the first insult that came to mind. Plus assuming that random people are autistic is also fucked up, women complain constantly about being judged for their actions but assume that any guy with social difficulties must be autistic, or that any guy who does…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 07:31 PM
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Nope. Men have had similar experiences the world over.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 07:27 PM
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Men are financially responsible for their children, that's why not paying child support lands you in prison. What I was saying is that women are most attracted to the guys least likely to commit to their children.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 07:25 PM
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Why don't you go talk to your friends? "I don't have any friends." This is quite revealing about how different men and women's lives are. When men say that they don't have friends, you assume that they must be lying or exaggerating, because you like most women have never had the experience of not having friends. You also judge all men by the men you interact with: you see groups of charismatic chads in bars and clubs and assume that every man must be like that, because below-average men are invi…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 07:22 PM
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Using autistic as an insult, what is it with women and hatred of the disabled? Besides most men do figure it out, that's why they become blackpilled or redpilled.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 07:15 PM
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But the fat slobs he was talking to should be desperate, but they deluded themselves and are told that they are beautiful by models and social media.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 07:11 PM
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Nah, women just get so much attention from guys that it distorts their sense of self-worth, making them think their entitled to a 6ft, broad-shouldered, charismatic, alpha.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 07:08 PM
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Not single mothers though. The bluepill fantasy of an educated single mother who raised her children without any assistance from the state or a stream step-fathers is a complete delusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 07:02 PM
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Women go for the guys least likely to commit to their kids. Average guys shouldn't have to pick up the slack.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 07:01 PM
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pick mes None of the women are pick mes, they aren't agreeing with RP talking points, the videos are mostly aimed at other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 07:00 PM
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It rarely happens that a woman goes for an average guy who she previously passed over for an obviously abusive chad. I was talking about the two different types of guys. Single mothers aren't dating some childhood beta friend, they just find any beta to do what Chad wouldn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 07:00 PM
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Cool, doesn't change the fact that poorly educated women, which single mothers tend to be, usually work in poorly paid jobs like hairdressers, retail, secretaries etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 06:57 PM
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Most people can't get buy on a single income, and because the average woman earns less than men they are even less likely to. Just face it, single mothers are a financial and social burden, excluding some exceptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 06:56 PM
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Plenty I'm sure there are, but they are also much more likely to live in poverty, so college degree or not they are dependent on men. Women being the majority of college grads is irrelevant, most of those women aren't single mothers.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 06:55 PM
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Have a look at this vid, the channel is full of more of the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 06:52 PM
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statistics I don't think anyone would research that, but hypergamous polygamous relationships have been extremely common historically, which would fit with the idea that single moms get knocked up by chads most of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 06:49 PM
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You are just using the word insecure to dismiss the arguments of unattractive men. If you are an unattractive guy, but suddenly find women are interested in you as you get older and gain value, what else would you assume? If a single mom with a chad ex was genuinely interested in you beyond your ability to provide they would have picked you earlier.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 06:44 PM
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Single moms are still completely dependent on men though, whether it be through child support, taxpayer funded welfare, or free dinners and drinks from simps.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 06:11 PM
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No, it's because a lot of single mothers get knocked up by some random super-attractive asshole, and are surprised that he doesn't care about their kids. So these single mothers try and find an average guy to provide for the asshole's kids, but refuse to have a kid with their new partner. It's alpha fux, beta bux.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 06:10 PM
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Do not want more kids. This is the most enraging one, the audacity of these women to get knocked up by guys who don't care about them or their kids, then expect another man to raise those kids, while denying him the same thing she gave to her baby daddy without a second thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 06:02 PM
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Not in developed countries if you exclude immigrant workers.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 05:59 PM
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You are like the opposite of the average redditor
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 05:56 PM
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The statement "No man wants to raise another man's child", obviously assumes that the man's child is alive. This wasn't true in the past when the vast majority of single mothers were widows, or in similar situations where the relationship ended for reasons outside the couple's control, like personal tradgedy. That's completely changed now though, most single mothers are now either divorced, or were never married in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 05:49 PM
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Young and hot stacies have the most options, they can afford to offend short men because they can get chad easily. Older less attractive women don't have that option, so they're less likely to openly insult a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 05:44 PM
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Tiktok is full of single mom's and 30+ women complaining about loneliness.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 05:39 PM
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OR You're wife isn't really representative of women, retail and administrator are the most common jobs for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 05:36 PM
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You probably are average though, people always think they're above average.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 05:34 PM
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My takes aren't shit, you just can't cope with not being chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 08:24 PM
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Depends on whether they can do better; than the bot.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 11:21 PM
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Tbh, I'd rather be in the friend zone than have no friends (male or female) at all. Women simply ignore me, or are repulsed by me. Getting to the friend stage would be an achievement. I understand that if you've been friend zoned before how it would make you resentful though.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 10:59 PM
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Yeah, I agree. It's hard to find meaning in life without a relationship, we have to struggle to find something that makes us passionate.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 10:07 PM
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It depends on how ugly you are. If you are below are certain height, (5,5 or or so), or have some feature that sticks out, like a weird nose, or ears, or chin, then it doesn't matter. But the reality is most men are average in terms of looks; however, as men we are naturally social awkward; we are interested in things and not people, and we suffer because of that. If you are average looking but have no friends, you will be invisible to women. In the end, both looks and social skills are very imp…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 10:05 PM
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I haven't met anyone yet. I used to envy people like you, because you had met someone. But it seems like men end up miserable whether we are alone or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 10:00 PM
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Yes, as I said, but the ratio of men to women is like 10-1. Men simply have higher drives than women, that is why we are mocked for failing to get women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 09:54 PM
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I never said that looks don't matter. It's undeniable that social skills are more important; if you can 'click' with people, they will be your friend, and your social status will increase. It's not use being physically attractive if you are a complete loner.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 09:51 PM
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It is undeniable that men are more likely to use bots, and to watch xxx material, etc. That makes a man pathetic. Other things make a woman pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 09:49 PM
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Extroversion doesn't matter at all. Are you extroverted or introverted? Be honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 09:48 PM
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The few women who do are, but they are few, whereas men who can do no better than sexbots or toys are many. You have to acknowledge that we are different.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 09:39 PM
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You are the remnant; before you many turned away from the Lord their God, and lusted after Idols, creations of man. You have remained righteous, but you are remnant.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 09:38 PM
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It is not something that is said explicitly, and it is not exclusive to feminists. It is just something that people assume: that humans are by nature good. Some people assume that men are by our nature good, others assume that women are virtuous. The truth is that only a fraction or remnant of people are truly good. The rest of us are by our nature weak, resentful, and envious.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 09:34 PM
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People are wicked, as soon as they have any advantage or privilege, they will exploit others to their own benefit.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 09:24 PM
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An utter tragedy. We have abandoned God, who by his prophets made clear the way.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 09:23 PM
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Just like birds, a man's ability to attract women depends on his social skills and extroversion. Many black-pilled men believe that they have no chance because of their looks, but, just like birds, a mans fate is not determined by his looks. A bird whose plumage is dull, but who nevertheless has a beautiful song, will have an inheritance. But the bird whose plumage is bright and colorful, but whose song is stuttered and broken, will live the life of the traveler, completely alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 09:22 PM
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They are making fun of the men who can't do better than sex bots, because such men are pathetic. I don't use any bots or stuff like that, but I can say that I am within that category.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 09:16 PM
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I am agreeing with you, but most women, like most men, are shallow and are slaves to desire. I disagree with feminists for that reason alone, the assumption that women are virtuous, while men are maleficent: the truth is that most of us fail to do the right thing, constantly.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 09:09 PM
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Most of us don't act on our aggression though, only a small minority who are very successful, whether it be financially, physically, socially etc. and who decide to exploit that advantage.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 08:53 PM
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Yeah, around 10-20% are simply useless, and repulsive to women. I used to be red-pilled but I have realized that as an 5'5 autist it is natural that women are repulsed by me.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 08:50 PM
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It's not the same but the group who shame men are more common obviously, it's just human nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 08:48 PM
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The ones who make fun of men are more common, just as the men who insult and disgrace women are more common, people just suck.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 08:47 PM
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yup, but the ftms have the advantage of the beard + deep voice which people associate so much with men that it sort of tricks your brain into registering the person as a man. Whereas with mtf as soon as you hear the fake girl voice you can tell.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 10:01 AM
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Femcel to trans pipeline? tbh I agree that ftm can often pass as men, unlike mtfs who almost never look feminine.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 09:17 AM
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why are you such a pervert?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 11:30 PM
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real jews don't, those jews have turned away from the LORD their god, who gave them the land as an inheritance.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 11:14 PM
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so you have like four countries to immigrate to, I don't think Israel will be happy if gentile thots immigrate in mass and contribute nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 11:10 PM
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you are delusional ywnbaw
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 11:07 PM
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turn to the lord your god, and follow his ways, keeping all his laws and commandments unto the coming of the age.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 11:05 PM
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you are a landwhale
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 11:04 PM
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yeah qatari media is very trustworthy and not biased at all, plus you ignored what I said about schoolteachers.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 11:02 PM
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If she is mean there would be consequences, plus all women would me made godly by regular attendance in church, studying the law and the prophets.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 11:01 PM
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why do you soydit cucks expect sources for fucking general knowledge, you could fucking google search this yourself, but no, you have to larp as a fucking intellectual.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 11:00 PM
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Amitheasshole redditor who reads through someone's whole post history, truly pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 10:58 PM
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More evidence that women are disgusted by mentally ill and disabled men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 10:56 PM
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Because of degenerate modern western influence, birth rates have declined but most other traditional gender roles have persisted. Thots aren't welcome in Iran, you have to be modest.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 11:31 AM
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We belong to God
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 10:13 AM
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I want them to worship the Lord their God, the God of their ancestors, who brought them up out of the Land of Egypt.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 10:11 AM
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Yes, there is a reason that Eve and not Adam ate the apple.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 07:23 AM
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Nah, there is some literature by women, but hardly any great art, architecture os especially technology
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 07:22 AM
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Let me guess, you would prefer corrupting children with sex education and lgbt acceptance propaganda
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 07:21 AM
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No, it's either illegal or more often is a massive social taboo, especially if women use it
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 07:17 AM
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I don't want to be 'successful' when the reward for that is chad's sloppy seconds.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 07:16 AM
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Nope, I wonder what bs you will come up with next to avoid engaging with the post
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 07:04 AM
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No where except burgermerica where you presumably live.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 07:02 AM
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They are building their relationship on shifting sands and pillars of salt. Most poly and other bs never lasts, the children will end up being raised by single parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 11:55 PM
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if you're being subjugated you won't really have much of a choice about what happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 11:54 PM
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Yeah but hunter-gatherer societies were primitive for that very reason. The increase in monogamy is one of the reasons societies advanced.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 11:51 PM
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Schrödinger's incel, simultaneously pathetic and a terrorist menace.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 11:50 PM
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Lots of guys pretend to be bluepilled in public, but are privately red pilled or black pilled.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 11:49 PM
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There are no 'factions' of the Catholic or Easter Orthodox churches, you amerimutts assume that they must work like Protestant churches. The church has its teaching and that's it, and it's teaching is closer to mine than to your hippy bs
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 11:48 PM
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malnutrition is usually caused by dysentery and other water-borne diseases that make it impossible for kids to digest food. Lack of food is actually not a problem, charities just pretend it is so that people donate.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 11:45 PM
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Go on. What kind of male?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 11:44 PM
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Not changing it, your lack reading comprehension and self-delusion has prevented you from understanding my original points which are all clearly expressed in the op.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 11:44 PM
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Women support and participate in those things, lots of women supported eugenics for example. As for crime it is often the result of single motherhood which is caused by women's bad choices men aren't fully to blame.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 11:42 PM
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All the groups above agree with my interpretation, which is why divorce has been illegal and marriage common in Christian history.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 11:41 PM
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That is something they say to console themselves, no one sees a grandfather playing with his grandchild and thinks, 'wow what a sucker' whereas lonely old people are treated with pity.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 11:39 PM
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It has nothing to do with keeping people stupid. It's just undeniable that the majority of people have neither the interest or ability to pass even one year a undergraduate science course. All of that time wasted teaching children useless scientific skills could be spent on moral and social development as well as the classics.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 11:38 PM
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Ancient societies weren't monogamous in the same sense that Christians have been, but they were still overwhelmingly religious and patriarchal, which was the point I was making about 10,000 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 11:36 PM
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I mean dangerous for the child and mother, obviously a child born to an 18 year old has less risk of birth defects than a 35 year old.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 11:33 PM
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'Community' lol the word community has lost all meaning.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 11:32 PM
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Doesn't changed the fact that the Catholic church eliminated polygamy completely before that, and that Protestants didn't change that in any way.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 11:30 PM
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Where are you gonna send her? Let's go around the map? South Asia? No, Africa, No, Latin America, No, East Asia, No, the Middle East, No. The only place you women could go would be europe, but thankfully many pious men from the above regions are immigrating there. It looks like most of the world actual aligns with my 'misogyny'.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 11:29 PM
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It was, I am talking about the whole world here, not just burgerland. You guys don't seem to understand that the world exists outside of america In South Asia, the Middle East, East Asia, Latin America, and much of Africa, monogamy is culturally enforced by shame and other methods.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 11:27 PM
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I said by extension the U.S. obviously referencing the fact that the Protestant countries from which the first americans came were part of the Catholic church for the crucial period of like 500-1500 Afghanistan has polygamy, and it is one of several reasons it doesn't function.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 11:25 PM
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Well we are getting plenty of immigrants who will support my plan hopefully. All non-chad men should support my plan but I'm not sure if they will.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 11:21 PM
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Nope, it's obviously true that U.S was overwhelmingly religious until recently, you can deny it but you know it's true.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 11:20 PM
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I know much more about your shithole joke of a country than you do about mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 11:19 PM
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Women who can't have a baby safely could get an abortion, that's fair. Why do you always care more about the dangers of women giving birth to early versus too late? It's safer for a woman to give birth at 18 than 35, and yet the latter is more common.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 11:18 PM
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There are lots of ways to prevent rape that women will never agree to, like closing nightclubs and bars, segregating schools and escorting women in public. If you want to prevent rape do those things. Which if I may guess they definitely are. I don't go around telling people these things funnily enough, and yet women ignore me completely. Cue the line about how women can 'sense' when men are misogynistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 11:16 PM
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I said in my other comment, I'm not a Christian. Enforcement of monogamy on a lower level has existed for far longer than Christianity however.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 11:13 PM
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So the Catholic, Eastern Orthodox and Mainline Protestant churches and Orthodox Jews are all misinterpreting the scripture. got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 11:12 PM
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Yup, I explained why in the op
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 11:09 PM
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Nah I get on fine with all of my relatives, unlike you fatherless american women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 11:09 PM
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ty I am quite proud of it
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 11:08 PM
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'Feed'? What are you talking about? Porn is pushed by elites, whether you like it or not, the world's biggest tech companies, (twitch, instagram, twitter, reddit) all either allow full on porn or general thottery on their sites.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 11:08 PM
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Yes, you're right, and I explained the causes, which are women entering the workforce and easy living/consumerism.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 11:05 PM
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Not even close to being the biggest group of pedophiles. The church can't hold a card to public school teachers, sports coaches or stepfathers. All of them have one thing in common though.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 11:03 PM
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It looks at extreme differences, where 80% of a given jobs is male or female. A lot of those jobs are quite common, it's not just anecdotal.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 11:01 PM
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You don't have to give birth in a hospital. 20% of births worldwide aren't attended by even nurses or midwives, most third-world women only have access to basic healthcare in overcrowded hospitals when they give birth. Modern women are pampered an just want c-sections and drugged up painless births when no one historically or outside of the developed world has or has had that, they still had children. You wouldn't need maternity leave, you're husband would be doing most working. The reason famil…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 11:00 PM
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I meant the major orders that have been historically influential, and historically male-dominated.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 10:55 PM
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Porn is pushed by world elites to emasculate men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 10:51 PM
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It clearly is though, look at all the achievements of men, literature, art, architecture, feats of engineering, ingenious machines, and most importantly faith in the Lord our God.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 10:51 PM
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Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 10:49 PM
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I don't have a political side, to be honest I would like theocracy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 10:49 PM
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you are happy now, but the loneliness will kick in eventually, you will see grandmothers playing with their children, three generations of a family all sitting together, and you will realize how you have wasted your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 10:48 PM
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People can't afford to pay their rent, true, but doesn't stop you from having a baby, you will just have to suffer the way the vast majority of the world's population does. Think about it: even the poorest couples in the U.S. or Europe still have more resources to devote to their child then people in Africa, or South Asia, or the Middle-East, or Southeast Asia, or Latin America. If they can rase their kids despite earning like a tenth of what you do, what is really stopping you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 10:47 PM
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'They shall be as ONE FLESH'
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 10:44 PM
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Yes, it she consented, if not then the child could raises by a religious order, or by nuns.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 10:44 PM
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I don't see how secularism is inevitable, most people aren't actually irreligious, they just aren't part of one of the major religions. Loads of 'secular' people believes in ghosts and demons and stuff, women believe in horoscopes, liberals think that you could be a woman tomorrow if you wanted to. Most people, myself included just have no interest in complicated stem subjects like physics and chemistry. These things aren't understood by the vast majority of people, only by people with specializ…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 10:43 PM
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Yes, if you got a girl pregnant you would just have to marry her like in the past. There is no such thing as soul mates and any of that shit, people would just learn to get along.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 10:37 PM
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First of all I said 'your', meaning that no I obviously didn't study it because I'm not from your joke of a country. Pretty sure that most of the revolutionaries weren't atheists though.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 10:36 PM
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You are just a misandrist clearly, I didn't 'go looking' for a chart, it took all of 5 seconds to find. I bet seeing it made you rage though.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 10:34 PM
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Most men throughout prehistory, (most of history paradoxically), didn't reproduce, as can be determined by genetics and the relative frequency of different Y-chromosome haplogroups vs mitochondrial ones. Most civilizations until recently have enforced monogamy to varying degrees, either through law or culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 10:33 PM
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You are just panicking because you realized you can't rebut my arguments, I did rebut yours, you just didn't understand them. And yes single motherhood is at least partially caused by hypergamy, women initiate divorce the majority of the time because they evolved to share elite men, not to be monogamous. The same with birth rates, women just aren't attracted to a lot men, they subconsciously want to be part of chads harem, if they can't have that some opt for celibacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 10:29 PM
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It's almost non-existent in Turkey and the Gulf which is why Turkey they function as societies and West-Central Africa doesn't. Have a look at this map. Gulf isn't there, but Turkey, Iran, and Egypt are all less than 0.5% Polygyny being common in the Middle-East is largely a myth, it is just legal.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 10:27 PM
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Going 4B would result in ostracization from one's community and family. There is always the option of doing away with church and state separation if none if this works. I'm not forcing people to be Christian, I'm not orthodox Christian, but I fear the Lord, and believe the words his prophets spoke will come to pass, and that we will all have life in the age. People could be Christian, Muslim, Hindu, whatever, none of the religions really disagree on these issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 10:24 PM
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Ok so patriarchy is a myth then? Got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 10:22 PM
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Yes there is, that is the way society was for like 10,000 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 10:22 PM
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Bs, people feared god and his prophets in those days.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 10:21 PM
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Women don't go back to hookup culture because it takes more and more effort for them to get chads attention as they age.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 10:20 PM
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How is dropping infant mortality a consequences of low birth rates? More women are being educated, but mostly in useless arts degrees or degrees that are just like being a housewife for a wage, like carers, nurses etc. All of that work would have been done by wives and mothers in the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 10:19 PM
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You can't send her anywhere that wouldn't be just as bad if not worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 10:16 PM
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You say in shock as if this was not universal like 50 years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 10:15 PM
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That's not how divorce rate is calculated I know, not what I was saying. I'm saying that the decline in the divorce rate is tiny compared to decline in the proportion of people getting married. Yes so over 75% are living with married parents. Single in those surveys is usually defined by just not married, that doesn't mean they are not cohabiting. This one specifically says that 25% of men are living without their father. Children in modern countries are a burden because they are pampered. The f…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 10:14 PM
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If you're a man, there is a fair chance that you can find another way to contribute, through a career. Not so for the majority of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 10:10 PM
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He is right tho, women had very few rights until like 50 years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 10:08 PM
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Since everything you’ve listed is the result of men behaving badly (abandoning their children, dating multiple women at the same time, leading on women that they won’t commit to, being completely antisocial, committing violent crimes), how about instead of forcing women to marry and have children with men that they don’t want, men just stop behaving badly? When you say 'men' you mean the top 10% of men that 80% of women think they are entitled to? why would any of those men commit to the 10-80% …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 10:07 PM
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Men don't cheat around in general, only the top 5-10% of men even get enough attention from women to cheat around. We're talking about a small percentage of men versus all women. We do. Women are free to sleep around in their twenties and then 'settle down' and expect a man to commit to them despite being ran through completely. And like I said, women are mostly banging the same guys, knowingly or not, so it is polygamy in all but name. What people call 'serial monogamy' is just polygamy for eli…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 10:01 PM
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That's why massive public investment in land reclamation, sewage and water works construction, and transport infrastructure is necessary. Not easy but possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 09:56 PM
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Your country was 99% religious until like 50 years ago. Religious freedoms mean that people are free to believe in whatever religion they want, (Christianity, Islam, Buddhism, Hinduism) it doesn't mean that the U.S. was founded for atheists and liberals.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 09:55 PM
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The churches, and good old-fashion shame and ostracization if necessary.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 09:53 PM
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They end up divorced because they chose men who don't do anything. The reason is rarely as dramatic as cheating Have a look at this chart, and tell me who 'does more'. Secretaries, receptionists, clerks and maids, or truck drivers, auto-mechanics, carpenters and electricians? Whose work is more essential, and more difficult? Whose work is less easily automated or outsourced? Men's in every case Men who 'don't do anything' in reality contribute much more to society than single mothers, who are a …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 09:52 PM
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Even if the figure of 14% is true, that would be a massive jump from 50 years ago when the number was close to 0. Lots of men are self-conscious and lie though, so the number is probably higher. And most importantly the men who are having sex are having much, much less of it than young women are.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 09:49 PM
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Yes, and the societies that have historically been Catholic (West-Central Europe, and by extension the U.S.) birthed the modern world. How does West-Central Africa chug along just fine? Or Afghanistan?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 09:47 PM
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I think you really should just look around man - look at the consequences of declining birth rates and single motherhood - we are the beginning of social collapse.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 09:44 PM
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You don't seem to understand that people don't want to break the law, or do things that would get put in prison in any decent society, so they do the old 'serial monogamy' which is, as I explained, a way for elite men to have sex with as many women as possible, and effectively demonstrates that women are hypergamous and polygamous by nature, (and that elite men are polygamous as well)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 09:43 PM
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Fix the social-economic factors currently barring people from affording to have and raise kids safely. This is just an excuse privileged rich people use. Your children don't need all the luxuries you want to give them, children are cheap enough if you don't delude them into going to an expensive university and put them to work as a teenager.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 09:39 PM
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Ok, you got it. We don’t want you or your money and we will be over here chilling with our friends who check up on us, drinking wine and watching you marry women who only want you for your money. Enjoy the wine.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 09:36 PM
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You ignored most of my argument, including the part about birth rates, the disastrous consequences of single motherhood, and women's evolved instinct for polygyny and hypergamy. I'll address you when you address me.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 09:35 PM
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Some degree of polygyny has been the norm for essentially all human history A massive degree of polygyny was common in prehistory, before human civilization existed. All of the worlds major religions either regulated polygyny or forbid it all together, and humanity prospered. Some degree of polygyny has been the norm for essentially all human history and still today there are societies which permit it and they chug along just fine Polygyny is most common in West-Central Africa. I wouldn't say th…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 09:33 PM
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Well, the first step is to make the consequences of casual sex more serious. So no more abortion and easy access contraception. A broader cultural change is necessary too; we need to return to the days when people had faith and believed in higher things; imagine if the U.S. went back to being a 99% religious country like it was in 1950, does my plan not seem easily possible then?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 09:30 PM
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Overturning Roe vs Wade in the U.S. was a start, contraception should be next. Legal changes aren't enough though, we need to return to faith and religion. The vast majority of women in the past correctly regarded these abortion and contraception as abominations.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 09:27 PM
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You don't seem to understand that when polygamy is illegal and still socially unacceptable, women and elite men have to find ways around, and those ways around are 'situationships' 'FWB', 'side-chicks' 'flings', and yes, adulterous affairs, which are 'polygamous' until the main chick finds out. All of these things are different faces of the same thing: women's hypergamy and elite male desire for multiple partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 09:26 PM
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They’re blowing men out of the water in every metric from higher education to employment to home ownership. Most useful degrees and difficult or productive labor is done by men. Compare the most common professions for men vs women: most women work in retail, administration, whereas men typically work in construction and trades. This chart blows the idea that women are dominating men out of the water. The most common jobs for women are either caregiving professions, (work that women would do in t…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 09:23 PM
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Divorce rate peaked in the 80s True but the slight decline in divorce is more than compensated for by the massive decline in marriage. Most children are born in married households and at least half of "single parents" are co habitating I don't see how this can be true when more than a quarter of U.S. children live without their father. People are having less children because a modern economy makes them a luxury Not true at all. Poorer people have way more children. The highest birth rates are in…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 09:18 PM
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Again, the hard cut-off at 29 is by definition missing a massive number of couples when the average age gap is 3 years. Women 27-29 - interestingly enough a third of that decade - would have a ton of monogamous relationship with men who aren't included as "young adult men The average age gap is 2-3 years. The age range is 18-30, not 20-30. So it's not a third, more like a between a 1/6 and a quarter, if age gap relationships are even that common at that age. If those "very attractive men" marrie…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 09:10 PM
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I edited my comment once, I posted it unintentionally before I wanted to. Not stealth editing.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 09:04 PM
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So how do you think society can convince women to be with men they dislike? Also how would you make women have kids? Most women would rather be sexless than have a kid with a man they don’t like. What do you think would change that? This problem has only existed for 50-70 years. We will solve it by returning to the society that existed before that, in which 99% of women would get married in their early twenties after getting a basic educations and have 3-6 kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 09:03 PM
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It's because women date older and men date younger, as I clearly explained in my comment. You ignored my response to your point. In a sample of men and women between 18-30, a difference of less than 30% of women and more than 60% of men being single can't be explained by 30-33 year-old guys dating younger women. That two-three year difference only makes up like 10% of the sample, when the difference is over 30%. Tinder and online dating confirm this as well, where the ratio is even worse. And on…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 08:58 PM
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Most women only act like this as a phase, then they settle down and don’t go back to it. This proves my point. When women are young attractive and can easily attract men, they take advantage, and naively go for the highest-value men. What you call 'settling down' is women realizing that the top 10% guy they want will not commit to them because they aren't a top 10% woman. If polygamy and hypergamy were acceptable though, these women would be happy to be side-chicks. Better to be chad's fifth opt…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 08:53 PM
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Fewer than 5% of relationships are polyamorous Polyamory has nothing to do with my post. I argued that pre-marital and extra-marital relationships are 'polygamous' with it being understood that the reason actual polygamy isn't common is because it is illegal, but that could change, as women are evolved to be hypergamous and to share men, as I explained. Serial monogamy is not polygamy Serial monogamy is what high value men do when monogamy isn't acceptable. Convince a girl you're seriously into …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 08:49 PM
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Most women sleep with only one person at a time. The guys they sleep within are clearly sleeping with other people at the same time; that's why 35% of young men claim to be dating someone compared to 65% of women: you are dating the same guys, as I explained in my post. More young men are single because with women prefer older and men prefer younger. This is no one's fault, much less the one-sided fault of women and our "polygamy." The number of single men is twice as high, that's far too much o…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 08:39 PM
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Definitely not, there are entire regions of the earth that are currently uninhabited that could become habitable in the future. Look at the size of the U.S Canada, Russia and Central Asia compared to their populations. It would require massive public investment before anyone would start living there though.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 08:34 PM
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Blue-pilled unnattractive men are simply deceiving themselves. It's comforting to think that you will be rewarded for your actions, instead of facing the more difficult truth that men are rewarded for genetically determined traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 08:20 PM
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Ah right, I didn't see that you were RP.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 07:28 PM
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If a man puts so much effort into his appearance that he looks 'stylish', the vast majority of women will just assume that he is gay.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 07:23 PM
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Our grandpas did much better than us without putting anything in their hair, because they were more masculine than us. The reality is that environmental estrogen and modern women giving birth into their thirties and even fourties has led to an increase in awkward, useless men who are genetic dead ends.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 07:20 PM
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Charisma is a combination of extroversion and assertiveness, both of which are determined by genetics. Women always say 'just change your personality' as if men who are awkward, anxious and shy have just chosen to be that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 07:08 PM
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So the guys your sisters are currently with should be happy with getting sloppy seconds and raising some violent prick's kid? 'Oh hi beta, I know I ignored you completely for years, but my chad bf isn't a good father so I want you to raise his kids. I won't have kids with you though, you're not a chad, you don't deserve to have kids with me.' If those men knew what was good for them, your sisters would be single mothers.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 07:03 PM
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It's easier to for a naturally dominant person to 'shut up and be good' than it is for a submissive person to take the lead. If wome want to be the dominant one in the relationship, then they have to accept dating less dominant men, which they won't.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 08:43 AM
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Women are chatty, that's not the same thing as being charismatic and dominant, which is much more difficult and much rarer. If the average woman preferred quiet awkard guys to dominant charismatic ones, Andrew Tate would be an incel instead of having a harem of hundreds of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 08:28 AM
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By Autist I just mean someone who is very awkward, not someone with a literal diagnosis. I just use autism as an example of how useless the advice men are given can be.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 08:24 AM
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Men can't change our biology, looks will always be the main thing to us.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 08:21 AM
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I just wanted to explain why a lack of sex is so soul crushing for people who have nothing going for them: it's because it confirms that they are dysgenic and an evolutionary error.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 09:57 PM
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Somewhat sociable More than somewhat for men. It's expected that men initiate nearly every social interaction with women, and be more assertive. Guys don't really care about whether or not a girl is shy, some men prefer it, other prefer a more outgoing person. Whereas no woman prefers a guy to be quiet or awkward.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 09:53 PM
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Women are usually much shyer and more anxious than men, which makes being charismatic nearly impossible. It doesn't matter anyway, as a shy woman is often considered extremely attractive, whereas a shy man is considered a creep and a loser.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 09:49 PM
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Women are, men become.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 09:46 PM
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I want to be socially awkward and ugly" isn't a desirable state even without sex? When a person says, I wouldn't date that person, I don't find them attractive and they are awkward, they pretending to themselves that their preference is just some subjective, temporal, individual thing, whereas the truth is that ugly and awkward people will never be considered attractive by anyone in any society. The crucial part is, a lack of sex confirms this. If someone is a virgin beyond a certain age, it is …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 09:46 PM
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most women are charismatic lol, you can't be serious.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 09:34 PM
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You'll do anything but admit your hypergamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 09:33 PM
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It wasn't irrelevant, you are just incapable of basic literacy. Your own comment about indians shaving was completely irrelevant as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 09:33 PM
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They're expected to be people pleasers and submissive. It's easier to be submissive than it is to be domineering and assertive. Submission involves doing nothing and allowing someone else take the lead. Doesn't change the fact that you need to be sexually attractive to your potential partner. It doesn't matter if you can change it. No one entitled to it. It sucks, but it is what it is and it's not their fault for not being attracted. Attraction isn't a choice either. I don't expect women to over…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 09:31 PM
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Your reply doesn't make sense, wtf did you mean about Indians shaving their legs? I thought you were just dismissing me when I pointed out that statistics from burgerland don't have universal applicability.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 09:23 PM
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Hair styling If you are ugly it will just look stupid, or if it makes you look feminine in any way. orthodontia, true. skincare routine true but it's risky, you could easily end up being perceived as gay by women, which would be disastrous. eyebrow tweezing/waxing, This is guaranteed to make you look gay. None of this stuff put together compares to effect that well applied makeup has on an average or below average woman. That is just not true at all. The lived experience of every awkward or quie…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 09:21 PM
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You’d be satisfied with a partner like that? Make up sometimes, not obese and could cook and clean but otherwise did nothing else? Yes, obviously there are things that I didn't mention because they are things that everyone is willing to do. Men really don’t care if their partners don’t have hobbies, interests, or a personality? The chance that a couple share a hobby or interest that they can genuinely bond over is fairly slim. If they do then that's great, but all that should be expected is that…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 09:13 PM
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I'm not from India. Not everyone on this sub lives in burgerland, so we don't have to accept your societal ills, like obesity.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 09:06 PM
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Physical attractiveness for men is influenced by four things: your height, which you can't change. your face, which you can't change, unlike women, who have makeup. your frame, which you can't change. your build, which you can change, but depending on your height and frame you will look stupid and a tryhard, and women will just mock you for being 'insecure'. Being assertive and charismatic isn't just something men can learn to do, it's an innate part of a person's personality. That doesn't mean …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 09:05 PM
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That's because like a third of men in the U.S are boomers, not to mention that burgerland is not representative of the world, most men outside of the states are much slimmer and healthier.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 08:55 PM
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Just because grooming is time-consuming doesn't make it difficult. Women already have the advantage because they can easily alter their appearance to make themselves more attractive. A guy has to spend an hour a day in the gym for years to approach the desirable male body type, whereas all women have to do is know how to dress, apply makeup, not eat too much and do light exercise. It obviously takes some learning, but it's much easier than the average gym bro routine. Not to mention that height …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 08:54 PM
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To tall/short No man cares, women just bully each other about it. Too skinny/fat Every man has his own preference and limit, depending on the culture some guys prefer heavier. Which culture prefers short men? None. too much/not enough make up Again, it's an individual preference, and it's also something you can work out with your partner. If a woman doesn't like a mans height he can't just change it like make up. None of what you mentioned even compares with the single requirement of height that…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 08:47 PM
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All you have do to is wear makeup (although you don't actually have to you just think you do) not be overweight (which is different for every man, so also easy to do) and not have a domineering personality. Beyond that, it's just cooking and cleaning. Nothing like what men have to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 08:41 PM
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If a person is asocial, they can spend 4 hours a day in the gym, but it won't bring them a partner. No one is asocial by choice, they just have a defective brain. For an autist to become social and charismatic like women expective is much more difficult than just having to vet all the men that are throwing themselves at you. Approach The vast majority of women will never have to approach anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 08:39 PM
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Except all it took for her to be attractive is her looks and how she presents herself. Whereas a man has to not only be physically attractive, but to provide for her, spend hours in the gym, develop charisma and assertiveness even if he's an autist or reject, and to be an interesting, cultivated person.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 08:35 PM
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He literally gave them drugs with the intention of getting them addicted. Do you know what drugs he gave? Unless it was a regular supply heroin or crack, you can't really accusing him of doing it with malice
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 07:40 PM
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Exception social status and physical attractiveness is enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 07:38 PM
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Nope, those 'worthless' men are usually physically attractive, and have high social status.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 07:32 PM
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Unless he gave them drugs with the intention of getting them addicted, it doesn't matter. Is every drug dealer who has sex with his customers a trafficker. He lent them money and then had them pay him back. Not trafficking they're falling because women are just remaining single. Doesn't change the fact that women date abusers despite their misogyny and don't care if the guys they have flings with are misogynistic
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 07:12 PM
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How is it trafficking though, he didn't kidnap them, they came of their own accord wherever they were from. He did deceive them in that he made them think he cared about them, but that's not trafficking and you can't blame him for taking advantage about how naive and deluded women are when they think an attractive man likes him. If it's because of a lack of autonomy, why are women in relationship with men that abuse them even in developed countries? Do you seriously think those women had or have…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 07:00 PM
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It's not a double standard, as I explained and you ignored. Men and women are different, holding ourselves to the same standard would be stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 06:52 PM
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famous professional athlete so an attractive man, like I said. Hard to be a professional boxer without being physically attractive. Are you admitting that women will overlook misogyny if the guy is attractive, famous and high-status. sex trafficker The women agreed to fly out to Romania, it's not trafficking just because they were poor or 'desperate'. Romania's legal system is corrupt as fuck as well, which everyone just overlooked.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 06:49 PM
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When you said 'since when did women work in factories' I thought you were accusing me of thinking that women have done factory work historically, when factories have only existed for like 300 years or so.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 06:41 PM
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You misunderstood. I meant that most abused women are abused by the men that they are dating, not that most men in relationships are abusers. How come those men weren't held back by their views about women. Nor was Andrew Tate, who has had sex with hundreds if not over a thousand women, none of whom cared about views about women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 06:37 PM
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No, because they had to accomplish things and be exceptional to get that body count. Unlike most women, who could equal Tate's body count easily. It's much easier for women to get sex than men, that's why men with high body counts are respected whereas as women are mocked. You can say it's a double standard if you want, but women have always been willing to share elite men, that's why only 1/3 of men who have ever lived reproduced. Having a high body count suggests that a woman has poor judgemen…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 06:34 PM
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You're the one who can't read. I never said that women have done factory work historically, I said that women from the third world do it so that people, (mostly women) in the developed world have more garbage to consume.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 06:27 PM
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I'd say your promiscuity for a start.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 06:24 PM
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How are we supposed to interact with women when you expect us to initiate everything, from friendship to sex to relationships? The fact that you just think men need to 'go outside' shows that you, like many women, have no idea how soul-crushing life is for the average man. No one is giving us the attention that women get just for existing. We actually have to accomplish things for people to be interested. There are no simps in our DMs or donating to our venmo, we can't make a living by just taki…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 06:23 PM
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It's obviously not fake, you just can't accept that women don't actually care about misogyny as long as they want to pork a guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 06:15 PM
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'The reason you're single is that women don't want misogynistic guys' Ok, then how come most women are abused by their bfs and exes? And why is Andrew Tate so successful with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 06:15 PM
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Factory work isn't a thing? wut Yep most women didn't work, excluding the kinds of work I specified.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 06:10 PM
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I never said women in third world countries didn't work, I said that they did basic agricultural work and domestic work, which is what they spent (and continue to spend) the vast majority of their time doing, as did women in the west until like 60 years ago. That work is much more important than slaving in a factory so rich women can have makeup and perfume. I mean, women couldn't even have their own bank account until the seventies, and the vast majority didn't work until recently. They weren't…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 05:42 PM
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You are the one who needs to read carefully, you said that gender roles in the West (implying cultural coherence, or else why use the word) have been unique in the restrictions they place on women. I didn't respond by pointing out that the different Kings and Empires had ruled Europe and that you need to take into account the multitude of different cultures, because that would be stupid. Why did you then bring up the issue of cultural coherence? India IS a culturally coherent region of the world…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 05:33 PM
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That's really backwards. Do you think abusive and violent men don't abuse or beat their wives in their home countries? Really? These women living in the West at least have some chances to escape compared to staying where they used to live. No, but they are less likely to, because religious organizations and the state take on the responsibility of disciplining people, and it isn't left to men as individuals. Take Iran or Saudi Arabia as an example; both are incredibly safe societies, far safer th…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 05:29 PM
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Nearly all cases of lynching were based on the suspicion of rape or murder. Do you really think they went around lynching people for robbery or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 05:16 PM
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No, I think India is a coherent cultural region of the world that has been ruled both by native and foreign empires. I like how when you argued western societies uniquely oppressed women this issue of whether or not the West is a coherent cultural entity wasn't an issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 05:00 PM
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Do you actually believe India has always been a single country, instead of a multitude of separated tribes, kingdoms, and empires? No, before 1948 or whenever India meant the whole subcontinent including what's now Pakistan, Bangladesh and Sri Lanka. The fact that India has been ruled by different Kings and Emperors doesn't mean it's society has changed its basic structure, of which women's subservience and submission was and is a part. India's societal norms come from Indic religions and Islam,…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 04:53 PM
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Ice cream is a worth the pleasure people get from it, and is fine in moderation. You can deny it but by not paying bills and not telling him about her 'past' (meaning her financial independence probably many casual relationships) she is obviously just trying to get the most out of the guys wallet without committing or submitting to him. It's like saying ice cream seller isn't a job because nobody needs ice cream, they want it though. Ice cream is a worth the pleasure people get from it, and is f…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 04:50 PM
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Do you actually think INDIA is an egalitarian society? The same India with a caste system, widespread violence against women and massive rates of female infanticide? Africa has had matriarchal societies, but that doesn't make them egalitarian and it certainly doesn't mean that women in those societies did useful work outside of basic agricultural work and domestic work.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 04:38 PM
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Marriage is no longer a commitment when women can end it for any reason. Also, do you seriously think a women with an income who refuses to pay bills actually cares about her relationship? Her husband has committed to her, when she only cares about fucking him over Filling in spreadsheets might be routine and fairly easy, but it is still work that needs to be done for any business to function. Who needs tiktok dating 'advice' which is actually just teaching women to scam and exploit men?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 04:35 PM
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No, feminism is responsible, not only because it led to declining population growth, but also because it promises women from traditional societies 'liberation' as long as they live in developed countries. The men who immigrate from those societies can no longer count on the state and traditional religious structures to enforce women's compliance with traditional laws, so men have to take it into their own hands, and they usually do this through violence. Also, they don't need feminism, because f…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 04:31 PM
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There rights have come at the expense of the rights of Third World women, who slave for them to produce their makeup and clothes, and all the other stuff that 'liberated' women spend men's money on.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 04:26 PM
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Many societies, from etruscans to filippino. There are additional examples all over Asia and Africa too. Maybe that's why Etruscan civilization collapsed whereas Rome became a trans-continental Empire. western societies where the role of women was completely different than the role of men dominated. No, the role of women was exactly the same in India, Islamic societies and the pre-Islamic middle east, East Asia and I suspect in Mesoamerica as well. Confucius thought that a woman's role was to st…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 04:24 PM
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i never talk about this and i dont know why its relelvent to men not being attracted to the top 20%. Because men don't desirer the top 20% exclusively like women do; it's just that a significant minority of modern women reject femininity completely, and thus have become less attractive, whereas it is inevitable that women will find the top 20% exclusively attractive, no matter the society. You don't see how this is relevant to your claim about men settling for women they don't desire? Those men …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 04:16 PM
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I wasn't responding to the original claim about settling, I was responding to your claim that men are just as hypergamous as women, and how that's not true, especially when taking into account the fact that men find the vast majority of women attractive if they dress and act correctly
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 04:08 PM
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She admits that she doesn't even pay bills and doesn't tell her husband about her past; doesn't sound like commitment to me. Just because she's getting paid doesn't mean her work is of any value to anyone; she makes much more than the average carpenter or construction worker, but they're work is infinitely more valuable than hers.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 04:05 PM
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Lots of guys do well, but white chads are the most successful
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 04:02 PM
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Being a Tiktokthot influencer is not 'working'.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 03:52 PM
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Yup, all of them are going for the top 20% of charismatic white chads.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 03:50 PM
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Which societies have allowed women, other than elite women from royal or nobles families, to do technical or professional work? There is a reason that nearly every advance in science, medicine, engineering and economics have been the achievements of men. Most artistic and literary achievements have also been the work of men, although the gap here is not as small.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 03:45 PM
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"Feminists fought so you could be liberated from being beaten, raped, abused, lobotimized, Women's liberation has actually had the opposite effect. Since the vast majority of 'liberated' women have fewer children than their conservative counterparts, societies depended on conservative women in conservative societies to support population growth. Since the population of most developed countries is declining, most countries now depend on the immigration of people from conservative societies to fil…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 03:42 PM
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There is no difference between women of different races when it comes to the desire to extract resources from men. There has been no society in human history or pre-history that has permitted women to do anything beyond basic domestic and agricultural work. Women have evolved to seek out men to provide for their every need, because any woman who did otherwise in the past would have ended up as a prostitute.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 03:36 PM
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It's relevant because you claimed that men are turning down partners that they find unattractive, whereas the truth is that men turn down women because women choose to present themselves in an unfeminine way, by wearing weird makeup, dying/cutting their hair or dressing and acting like men. Most men are even willing to date overweight women as long as they're feminine. Meanwhile, women rule out 20% of the male population because of their height alone. The proportion is even larger for asians and…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 03:30 PM
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You genuinely think that most men in military turn gay? The only professions a level of male homosexuality that is much, much higher than the norm are priests and sailors, and that's because those men spend years and their whole lives in the case of priests without any sex. It IS relevant. The fact that a woman can become attractive to man just by dressing better and learning how to use makeup shows that men are less selective. A virgin beta male can't become attractive just by dressing like cha…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 03:24 PM
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'Men' aren't aroused because only a minority - 10% or so I think turn gay in prison. Versus like 1-2% of the actual population being gay.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 03:20 PM
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That's because that study excludes men under 25 (women's best years) and includes older men. As we age, the balance shifts in favor as men as women struggle to attract the men they did in their younger years, and as men gain more and more resources that they can used to attract younger women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 01:19 PM
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All that says is that both women find both male and female stimuli attractive whereas straight men only find female stimuli attractive, which disproves what you said earlier about men finding male stimuli attractive. It doesn't say anything about the stimuli used so, this doesn't prove that women aren't actually more selective in who they find attractive - just that they find whatever stimuli the researchers used arousing. If women really like men as much as men like women, why are young men so …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 01:17 PM
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The fact that a minority of men turn 'prison gay' if they've been separated from women from years of their lives doesn't really change the fact that men find most women attractive. Besides, unattractive women are unattractive for reasons usually within their control, most often their weight. Women also have the option of makeup, heels, hair dye, and really anything that makes them more attractive in men's eyes, whereas it's nearly impossible for men to improve their appearance without putting in…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 01:11 PM
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must have partner -> partners available to them are unattractive -> suffering increased When women are unattractive, it is largely (not always) for reasons within their control. It's not fair for women to expect men to date them if they put no effort into looking feminine and staying at a healthy weight. Those two things are really all you need and any woman can do them. That and not having been ran through by 30 guys in your 20s before you suddenly have an epiphany and want to 'settle down'.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 01:04 PM
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Nope, most men just want monogamy. Women also ultimately want monogamy, but it's in their nature to be sexually attracted to elite men, so they end up thinking that they're 'settling' when they date any man that isn't chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 12:59 PM
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In the scenario you describe, it is the man who is settling, not the woman. A delivery worker with his own house is pretty rare. There's no reason why that guy should settle for a 30 year old past-prime woman who's just been dumped by her bf and has trauma because of it, especially if that girl doesn't even find him attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 12:57 PM
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The 80/20 rule is a law of physical attraction. It's not that women aren't willing to date men outside the top 20%, as if that were true most men would be single or virgins. What people don't understand is that female hypergamy is an evolved difference between men and women. It has no male equivalent. There is a reason that we have far fewer male ancestors than female ones; women chose the most elite men to reproduce with, particularly after agriculture was invented. There was even a period of r…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 12:54 PM
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Men are perfectly willing to date women who are as or less attractive than them. It's really only women who end up 'settling' in that they pursue men that are much, much more attractive than them and end up shocked when those guys won't commit. That's when they 'settle' for a guy who they don't feel genuine desire for, but whose resources and (occasionally) personality they like.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 12:42 PM
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Yeah, it's the same with body count. The mean might be similar enough for men and women, but it's distributed so that most women are near the average (which is much higher than studies report) whereas most men are either far below or far above the average.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 12:23 PM
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No, Blue Pill men are usually 'boyfriend material' i.e. women go for them whenever they want to settle down and have a relationship. Usually most women will have tried to get with 'Chads' before that, but realized that they just aren't attractive enough for those men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 12:18 PM
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Thanks for being honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 08:52 AM
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Now you're accusing me of advocating for rape? I just think that it's tragic that these people don't get to reproduce. And I wasn't exclusively talking about guys here, it's just more common for men. Women with severe eating disorders that prevent them from ever having a family also should get to reproduce or start a family, but guys won't give them that chance. would you say the same schizophrenia? Yeah, they do deserve to have children. The fact that you group schizophrenia with psychopathy an…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 10:50 PM
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Don't you think it's a shame that autistic people don't reproduce? If a person can't get a relationship despite trying, that means that others have reckoned them and found them wanting. It's always funny to me how liberal women pretend to care about the rights of marginalized groups, like neurodivergent people and poor people, but then turn around and date rich charismatic guys exclusively. If you really valued these groups, you wouldn't reject them and condemn them to a life without an inherita…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 10:42 PM
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Wow, maybe I should move to India
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 10:33 PM
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The studies were from the early 2000 before more subtle variations of autism were widely accepted so we are talking about courting someone with severe mental disabilities here. Those variations were accepted they were just called Asperger's and not autism. 80% of people with Asperger's are unemployed. A guy from the Asperger's sub did a survey and found that 40% of autistic men were virgins. And then to place the burden of acknowledging a persons worth on my willingness to get into a relationshi…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 10:29 PM
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This defeatist attitude is actually pretty ableist if you think about it. All people everywhere are capable of growth. All people are worthy of the pursuit of happiness. If you care about autistic people so much, answer this: would you ever consider dating or hooking up with an autistic person? No, you wouldn't, and nor would the vast majority of people. If the autistic were equal, they wouldn't all be virgins.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 10:15 PM
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They only sabotage leftists in Latin America, Africa, and Asia. Since leftists in the USA are pathetic and care more about allow mtf transitioners to ogle women in changing rooms than they do the working class.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 10:08 PM
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You just keep ignoring what I'm saying. Most of those personality traits, particularly neuroticism, have objectively worse presentations depending on gender. If you are a man who is by nature passive, neurotic and introverted, you will spend most of your life alone, especially if you're not intelligent or can't apply your intelligence because of other issues. A man like that just aren't attractive to women, and I honestly don't blame you for finding that sort of man attractive: no one would want…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 10:06 PM
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Did you know that autistic barriers like social awkwardness and inability to pick up on social cues can be reduced significantly through therapy and practice? You don't get something for nothing and if you don't put in the work you get what you get. Autistic people just need to grind, why didn't doctors think of that. As for autistic barriers being reduced, only 10-20% of autistic people ever maintain full-time employment, and over half of them have to live in special homes. This link has more i…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 09:25 PM
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So extreme extroversion? That is a genetically adaptive trait, you are lucky.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 09:09 PM
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You must be the rizzler
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 09:04 PM
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The main point of the redpill is to drill home the FACT that women are extremely shallow and superficial, just like men. It's not just that though. The RP also teaches how to dominate women psychologically, which is important once you actually get into a relationship. Most BP guys can't get that far though, so the RP isn't much use for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 08:59 PM
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A strong sense of self means you take responsibility for your actions and behaviors. So mentally ill, reclusive, friendless autists need to just take more responsibility. Got it, I'm sure that your advice will be helpful to them. You know who gets attractive bodies? People who go to the gym to work out. You know what that communicates? I take responsibility for my health and wellbeing. What about people who can't go to the gym because of health issues? What about short guys who will just look li…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 08:57 PM
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Nah, CRT is actually a separate agenda, which is why no one cared about it until recently. Basically, world elites only care about men to the extent that they are willing to die in wars, like in the Middle-East or in Ukraine for example. But since the majority of men aren't military material, the long-term goal of elites is to subdue the majority, be it through porn, junk food, video games, drugs, or political extremism and apathy. Elites know that faith and religion is the only barrier to their…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 08:46 PM
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strong sense of self and empathy What does that even mean? What worth is that compared to a stable personality, a physically attractive body, and a steady income?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 08:36 PM
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What's not true? That kids raised by single parents, (single mothers mostly) are more likely to be fucked up? That's undeniable. Those kids are much more likely to be mentally ill, suicidal, unemployed, or in jail than their peers. If you mean that marriage doesn't end for shallow reasons, then why do you think marriages end? It's certainly not because of physical abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 08:34 PM
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Love is nearly always conditional - if you're a woman it's conditional on you being physically attractive and your ability to satisfy your husband sexually. If you're a man, it's conditional on both of those things, in addition to you being able to provide for your wife and children. In societies where divorce is legal and common, marriages almost always end for shallow reasons. One partner (usually women, but men sometimes too) just loses the 'spark', and finds that they aren't in love anymore,…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 08:13 PM
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Well, I suppose major disabilities makes things very hard. Yeah, and those kinds of disabilities are more common than you think. It's not just physical things like being an amputee or diabetic, but common mental or neurological conditions like schizophrenia, autism, eating disorders. None of those three conditions has a good prognosis. Though, most people struggling don't have some major disability and instead are doing something wrong. When you take into account that differences in both persona…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 08:09 PM
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A person might not be doing anything wrong though, they might just be wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 07:54 PM
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Yeah, I'm not sure if they're more likely to succeed. It's important to remember that Hindus, the religion whose members are most likely to get an arranged marriage, also traditionally consider marriage to be sacred, and that divorce would be illegal in India (as it once was for Hindus) were it not for the influence of Muslim Empires and the British. Arranged marriages combined with a prohibition on divorce would be have a lot of potential as a combo.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 07:52 PM
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It's not that there aren't plenty of women who have several if not all of those characteristics, but the people who have them in the greatest degree are usually men. That's why nearly all 30+ virgins are men, and why the stereotypical failure reject is a man. It's just based on something that everyone can observe.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 07:46 PM
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in many ways, it's even more ruthless than the US dating scene. That's surprising. Although some AM couples do fall in love, many dont and enter into a sort of cordial arrangement. That cordial arrangement is what makes it a good idea though. All that is expected of the couple is that they treat one another with respect, none of the shallow shit that is so common in 'progressive' (degenerate) societies is tolerated.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 07:41 PM
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Sorry, I meant that nearly all such people are men, not that nearly all men are like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 07:34 PM
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Yeah, but some, if not most people who truly have nothing going for them are largely in that position because of their genetics, and because of aspects of their environment that are out of their control. For example, the generic advice that people give to men who are struggling is to 'work on their personality'. The people who give out this sort of advice don't realize that every aspect of a person's personality, whether it assertiveness, intro/extroversion, the ability to work hard, neuroticism…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 07:30 PM
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These kinds of stories make arranged marriages seem like a good idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 07:16 PM
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Most RP youtubers and podcast hosts aren't exceptionally physically attractive. They're definitely above average, but guys like F&F, Playing with Fire, or the whatever hosts wouldn't be nearly as successful were it not for the fact that they follow the advice they give out.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 06:44 PM
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Most RP stuff works for attractive men who are looking to initiate and maintain a relationship, especially if those men are physically attractive but aren't particularly charismatic or extroverted. However, once you're in a relationship, whether you're physically attractive or not, the RP is to your advantage.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 06:41 PM
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Yeah, but if the person is socially adjusted and considers you a friend, they probably won't be completely honest about your prospects. It's hard for people to accept that some people simply have nothing going for them, and that there is thus no advice that could work for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 06:39 PM
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I think what you're describing is fairly rare, even for women. If you have a friend that is equal to you in physical attractiveness, that friend could still be more charismatic than you, or more assertive, or more interesting, or talented, all of which make people more attractive. Of course there are also people (nearly all men) who aren't any of those things, and those people don't have friends they can just ask for advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 06:37 PM
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The only parts of it that are learned are learned at an early age, and if you miss out, it's over.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 05:26 PM
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I'm not American, so there are actually decent parties I can vote for
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 04:35 PM
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Apathetic men won't even bother to resist in the most basic way, that is by voting in parties that have men's interests in mind, like the current south korean government
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 04:01 PM
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The objective is to make men weaker, so that more men end up single, lonely and apathetic; that way states can continue to push their agendas without any objection or organized resistance by men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 03:28 PM
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My point is that unfeminine women are that way by choice, whereas unmasculine men end up that for reasons out of their control. Since it is inevitable that some men will fail to meet their masculine obligations, women will just have to settle for men they find repulsive, as they did in the past. Obviously women won't do this unless they are raised for marriage from birth. That might sound hard, but the other option is what we are witnessing right now - the potential collapse of civilization.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 03:24 PM
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It's interesting that all of the traditional masculine qualitites you listed are strongly influenced by an individual's genetics, (physical strength, assertiveness, the ability to provide which is genetically determined by intelligence) whereas the feminine qualities are things nearly any woman is capable of doing - (cooking, not being promiscuous, being reserved, respectful). When men fail to fulfil their masculine responsibilities, it is usually outside of their control, whereas women only hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 12:36 PM
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They'd prefer a felon to a weak or passive man.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 12:14 PM
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