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I think it's difficult to say, because if you're comparing "the dating world pre-OLD" with 2021 (or ~2019, pre-COVID), there's a lot of other relevant factors that you have to take into account too (smartphones/social media becoming common, helicopter parents raising kids terrified of making mistakes, economic recession, #metoo/4th wave feminism, political polarization and rising distrust of people around us). The trend of young people being less likely to date starts before kids are old enough …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/21 09:53 PM
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detailing how exactly criminalizing prostitution would do anything but make human trafficking and abuse worse. Anti-prostitution feminists are generally all in favor of the Nordic model, which criminalizes buying sex but not selling sex - basically it's illegal, but only the johns can get in trouble. It's not perfect either, but it does seem to work pretty well. Refute this in-depth economic modeling, which ,among other things, says: A comparison of (30) with (24) shows that total trafficking de…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/20 08:03 AM
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In any case incels are heavily monitored by law enforcement whilst radfems have a free reign to spread their vitriol. how many mass shootings have been committed by radfems?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/20 11:17 AM
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Abigail Shrier, the book is "Irreversible Damage". She's done some good interviews, including one on Joe Rogan, if anyone wants to learn more about this.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 06:15 AM
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Non-binary and trans are not sexual orientations, they're "gender identities". These women are still biological females attracted exclusively to biological females, but they are not calling themselves "lesbians" anymore because they don't consider themselves or some of the people they are attracted to to be "women". They call their orientation "queer" and say they're attracted to "women and enbies" ("enbies" = "NBs" = non-binary-identifying people) and then just quietly don't date biological mal…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 06:11 AM
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I think wokeness has taken over the entire left. Partially an outgrowth of critical theory from academia, partially a result of young people generally being too individualistic and incapable of coping with criticism, partially because corporations/the moderate left are pushing it because it's advantageous to them if the left is focused on wokeness instead of class politics (basically this). There's a growing minority of feminist women who disagree with this stuff, but the problem is cancel cultu…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 09:39 PM
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I haven't spent much time on feminism so I can't say, but I can't stand askfeminists. It's so "woke" that you can't even discuss ways women are oppressed anymore because "sex work is work" and "trans women are women" and any criticism of things other women do is "invalidating" their choices or "identity". I used to comment there pretty often, but I started getting a lot of downvotes for things like "feminism is about women and not men", "biological women experience sexism in some ways that trans…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 11:20 AM
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Mostly a normal tourist destination. I'd associate it particularly with young people and gap year traveling, never heard of someone going there on a family vacation with kids. If I heard an older guy was going to Thailand alone though, my first thought would definitely be sex tourism.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/20 09:03 AM
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i think it only works when there's a clear end point (usually because one person is planning on moving away). otherwise you fall into the trap of getting more and more invested into a relationship that's never going to work out. if you're young, it might feel silly to break up over wanting kids when you're like 22, but it's better than one day waking up at 26 realizing you're in a 4-year relationship living together with someone who has fundamentally different life goals than you
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/20 09:35 AM
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I would say that's because there is no society where we have successfully eliminated hostile sexism (whether or not such a thing is even possible is another question).
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/20 01:54 PM
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Oh wow, yeah those descriptions are not good for just comparing "benevolent sexism". He firmly believes that people can be truly happy in life without being romantically involved with a member of the other sex. He feels that he can be truly complete as a person without the love of a woman, especially if he is personally accomplished. Non-sexist Mark sounds like the kind of guy who is not going to be invested in the relationship at all and will always prioritize his work/personal accomplishments …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/20 01:39 PM
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One study showed that in nations where men endorsed higher levels of HS, women endorsed higher levels of BS (Glick et al., 2000). The authors interpreted these findings as showing that women are more likely to value the benefits offered by BS in cultures in which they perceive men to be hostile. (HS = hostile sexism) So basically women who are in more sexist societies want a "protector" man who will protect them against the sexism of other men. Women in less sexist societies are less interested …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/20 01:10 PM
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Yes, this is concerning to me. I would assume he has a negative opinion of women or some misogynistic ideas about raising girls. An acquaintance of mine said this once, I asked him why, and his answer was something like "if she's pretty, I would have to worry about all of the guys who were interested in her". Just weird that his first thought of having a daughter is her sex appeal, and thinking that he as a father would have some sort of ownership over her sexuality. It's a little more understan…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 05:08 PM
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some other threads answering this question, because it comes up a lot: https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/jajqpf/q4women_what_makes_you_sexually_attracted_to_a_man/ https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/dcg8fe/since_everyone_on_this_sub_male_and_female_is_too/ https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/j2tou7/women_what_honestly_truly_attracts_you_to_a_man/
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/20 10:16 PM
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how do you grow up with any semblance of normal socialization/not having autism and not realize that women are attracted to attractive men? like how is it possible to even make it through high school without observing this??
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/20 07:09 PM
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They'll make the compromises they're supposed to make to meet men at the middle. What does this mean? What compromises are women "supposed to" be making? If a woman isn't attracted to any of the men who are interested in her, is she "supposed to" settle for the best one, or is she allowed to choose to stay single?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/20 10:54 AM
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however, there was no linkage between men’s attractiveness and number of long-term partners. blue pill confirmed
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/20 08:45 AM
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I mean, looks obviously make a difference - if you're ugly, you're not going to be able to easily sleep around on Tinder, this is true. But I've seen pictures of some of these guys, and a lot of them are just average or a bit below average looking. They could get a girlfriend if they went out and met people, were fun to be around, knew how to flirt, and had realistic standards. I know because I've seen this with people I know IRL repeatedly. even tho I disagree, they care about looks much more t…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/20 10:03 AM
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Ah whoops. To answer: Which makes me wonder, what is really so bad about incel's personalities in women's minds that puts them even below a dude that fucks little children and a guy who wants to commit racial genocide? They're creepy, bitter, awkward, and generally unpleasant to be around. There exists a small group of women (not "women" as a whole) who will overlook horrendous crimes for a guy who is confident and fun (or on OLD, just hot, because you can't really judge personality on OLD). Lik…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 12:09 PM
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Why do you guys hold women to higher moral standards than men? There's plenty of men who would have casual sex with such a woman if they thought she was hot, and they wouldn't get the same criticism that these women do. I mean I think being a pedophile or a neo-nazi is repulsive to most women, but women are not a hivemind and it's not surprising to me that there's some women who would overlook these traits (or find them positive - do you think female neo-nazis don't exist?). I also wonder how ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 11:31 AM
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sounds like an incel trolling. it's too tailor-made for their rage fatansies. her only other post is "Rejected perfect guy 16 years ago. Now single, childless, alone at 35." - this is literally the incel revenge fantasy
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/20 11:15 PM
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Tip for people actually wishing to debate: 1) Don't spend your time on PurplePillDebate. Seriously this sub is kinda fun but it's not exactly a place for high-quality debate. If I blocked everyone who wasn't engaging in good faith, there'd be basically nothing left to read here.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/20 03:47 PM
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the wiki article explains what counts as objectification pretty well. attraction is seeing a woman as a whole person who you also find attractive. objectification is when you stop viewing the woman as an independent human being with her own thoughts and feelings and desires, and view her as an object that exists just to be attractive and sexually available the gym example counts as objectification because if you view a woman as a human being, you'd probably think "she's just here to work out, st…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/20 06:39 PM
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I live in Europe and have met a lot of expats who use English for studying/work, and I've noticed this too - nearly all of the women and feminine men have learned the local language, the masculine men rarely have. I always assumed it was because speaking a language poorly makes you feel kinda powerless and childish. There's something vulnerable about being an adult who can't communicate in basic sentences without making mistakes. I think it's uncomfortable for men who like feeling like they're i…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/20 05:38 PM
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This. I feel like these guys consider only the way male sexuality works to be "real" attraction and are chasing this unrealistic idea of being so physically attractive that women will pursue them like a man just from looking at them. Which I guess happens every once in a while, but they are right that it's a small percentage of men who will ever experience this (and also a small percentage of women who will ever even act like this). Women's visual standards for guys who are otherwise appealing a…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 11:36 AM
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Because men can have children without any investment in the child or the mother. Biologically the goal is to have as many (reproductively successful) children as possible, and for men this only needs to involve an orgasm and then he can forget about it. Women don't have this option - if we want our children to survive, we have to invest in pregnancy and raising the child, and we want the man to stick around and help. So it makes sense to be picky to make sure he has good genes and he will be a g…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/20 07:28 PM
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aand yet another "one time I knew a women who did one thing wrong and made up a story in my head about how she rationalized it, does this mean that all women are morally inferior to all men???" ...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/20 05:45 PM
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Radical feminism (the one that's anti-porn) is not "mainstream feminism". There's diversity of thought in feminism, but if you're going to say that "men and women have specific roles in relationships based on biology that they should adhere to" is a subgroup of feminism, then "feminism" would be so broad that it doesn't mean anything anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/20 01:22 PM
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Eh I would not consider FDS to be feminism. They're in some weird place between tradcon and feminist. I see things like "men should pay for dates because women have already spent so much on looking good for their date" on FDS all the time - that's like, completely the opposite of radical feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/20 01:10 PM
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1) No? I mean you are literally just making this up. Educated and high-earning people are in better shape, every study on the subject (and like, stepping outside your front door and observing people) supports it. Housewives are not so stress-free as you think either. Research says that stay-at-home moms have higher rates of depression and worry. 2) Not all men want lots of kids? I've talked to men I've dated about it and all of them said they thought 2-3 kids was ideal. Also plenty of high-earni…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/20 12:59 PM
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I don't feel like getting into all of this post but: 1) What planet are you living on where highly educated high earning people are in WORSE shape? Have you met any successful women in your life? I know a lot of them and they usually carry their overachiever tendencies into their diet/fitness routines. Like there is such a strong correlation between being uneducated/low-income and being overweight that I genuinely have no idea how you would think this. 2) What's with this idea that fertility is …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/20 12:37 PM
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LPS? What would being for welfare have to do with being against safe haven laws? I'm in favor of them, the only reasonable argument I can see against them is the father's rights argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/20 10:54 AM
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I'm on the fence about it. Some issues I see: 1) I absolutely do not support it without strong welfare programs to make sure children aren't growing up in poverty. Even if you're a heartless jerk who doesn't care if children go hungry for no fault of their own, it's horrible for society to have a lot of people who grew up in poverty. However the majority of people who are in favor of financial abortion are also against any increases to welfare programs. 2) A lot of fathers choose not to be invol…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/20 08:36 AM
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The interesting part to me is that the median number of partners in the younger male age groups did not change at all. So this narrative that the "average" young man is struggling nowadays doesn't seem to be true. They only looked at the 50th, 80th, and 95th percentiles, but I'd be interested to see what's going on at the lower percentiles, to see how many men are actually affected by this "sexlessness epidemic". Too bad they didn't include that data.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/20 06:12 PM
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I don't even understand why this happens to them because it seems to me if you can share bills, expenses and chores with someone else you have even more time to do things you want to do. That would be a roommate. Having a partner does mean that you have less free time to spend on your hobbies, because people generally spend time with their partners, and that time has to come from somewhere. I do not understand men who voluntarily enter relationships and then act like they're victims because thei…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/20 08:25 PM
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Those studies were referring to the mean though?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/20 05:26 PM
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... even if women are sleeping with a small group of men, men and women would still have the same average number of partners? It's literally mathematically impossible that straight men and women would have a different average number of partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/20 05:24 PM
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And most of my friends are at or below that - nearly everyone I know has had about 1-3 LTRs and 0-2 casual partners. It just depends on what kind of people you hang out with.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/20 05:20 PM
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It's mathematically impossible that men and women have a different number of average partners (excluding gay people, but they're a small enough percentage of the population that they aren't affecting these stats much). So if men are reporting average partner counts of 6-8, and they are lying upwards, it means that women have an average count that is less than 6-8.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/20 05:11 PM
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Fact: most women are out sleeping with a bunch of men who know they’re promiscuous and would never date them, once they’re done doing that they plan to lie and say their body count is 10% of what it really is to get a husband to pay for her life Fact: The average person has somewhere between 4 and 8 partners, depending on the study. Most women are not out sleeping with a bunch of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/20 04:54 PM
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No. I only use Instagram to browse, I don't post anything on it. I don't see any appeal at all in posting "attractive" pictures of myself, like I don't really care for weird dudes messaging me and I'm kinda camera shy anyways. I already feel self-conscious sometimes when I look at pictures of myself my friends and I take just to document stuff we do together, it would probably be so much worse if I were trying to actually look attractive in those pictures. When I went through a phase of wearing …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/20 01:42 PM
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There's some men who only feel comfortable talking about their personal issues with their female partner (or one other woman in their life, like a close friend or family member) and just absolutely unload everything on them and expect them to constantly be available to play therapist. It's not all men, some men never talk about their emotions even with their partner, and some men deal with their emotions more healthily. But it's enough men that I think most women have some experience with this k…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/20 02:49 PM
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OK let me put it this way: women are rarely interested in a man based on a static picture of him, even if she could become attracted to this man after interacting with him (or even just reading his OKCupid profile). Looks are still relevant here, most women have a floor for acceptable looks, but women generally don't weight looks quite as highly as men do. The obsession the men here have with immediate physical attraction (based on pictures even) as the only type of attraction that matters just …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/20 01:10 PM
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that's just because women aren't as looks-oriented as men. but women are generally open to dating men who don't immediately catch their eye as long as he's charming. every time a guy here cites that OKC data he conveniently overlooks the second part, which showed that women were still messaging these "below average" guys
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 03:25 PM
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they will run into the same problem if they are unlikeable and/or trying to date out of their league, but this sub isn't overrun with ugly women crying that life isn't fair because they don't have the right genetics
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 03:21 PM
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ugly people with good personalities generally do fine dating other ugly people. it's men who are ugly AND have bad personalities AND still want to date attractive women that are going to completely strike out
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 12:11 PM
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I don't know, I'm not a medical researcher. Standardize measurements to be taken at the same point in their cycle maybe?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 10:42 PM
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Breast cancer is much more common in young women though, prostate cancer is an old man disease. Most people would consider it more of a problem if a 35-year-old woman dies from breast cancer than if an 85-year-old man dies from prostate cancer.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 10:34 PM
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No, the reason why women have historically been excluded from drug trials was because they were worried about menstrual cycles complicating their data. Even drug research on mice is usually done only on male mice, and I doubt the scientists are suffering from the "female mice are wonderful" effect. And this comes from viewing the male body as the default and the female body as the "other". Instead of seeing it as, 50% of the population has (or has had) a menstrual cycle, and thus this is a thing…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 10:26 PM
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Probably just that there's more people? Same reason why people in big cities are colder than in small towns. When you don't know everyone and don't feel like the group is watching out for you, it's normal to be more cautious of strangers. I think men in big groups are more brazen too, so some of it is probably a reaction to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 10:04 AM
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is not wanting to have sex with someone "hating" them?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 03:05 PM
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This study didn't look at n-count and found: In the sample of all persons, greater differences in age and education between husband and wife and reporting that one’s partner’s looks were important in the decision to marry are both significantly associated with a relatively higher hazard of divorce
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/20 01:47 PM
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why do I never see this "but it increases your chances of divorce!!" logic applied elsewhere then? no one on the red side here is promoting marrying college-educated women the same age as you, which also significantly decreases your chance of divorce. just admit it's because you think promiscuous women are gross and are trying to pretend it's a logical decision
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/20 01:24 PM
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Yeah I definitely agree with this, this is kinda what I was trying to get at. Like a lot of older posters seem to assume that younger posters who are unsuccessful in dating are just a small number of weird nerds who are opting out of "normal society", but the problem is really that "normal society" as they think of it doesn't exist anymore. People aren't making friends with their neighbors or coworkers or random people they ask for directions on the street anymore, not just because they are too …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/20 07:58 AM
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I don't think so. It's true that Gen-Z is "delayed" in a lot of ways (not getting jobs as teenagers, not getting their drivers licenses, not drinking, etc), but I think they have a bigger loneliness/isolation/depression problem that goes far beyond just sex. I don't see them just starting to date "normally" (where "normal" means "like the boomers and Gen X") at age 25, because they still have fewer friends and are still not socializing in real life as much.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 03:39 PM
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here you go I've seen it linked multiple times on this sub but it always gets ignored
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 03:28 PM
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but what if he finds out that I post on PPD?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 05:45 PM
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hahaha oh aren't you so clever 🙄 i was talking about literal prostitutes
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 10:51 AM
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I think their only "friendships" with women are just acquaintance-ships that they read too much into. They don't have actual platonic friendships with women, because women who they don't want to sleep with don't exist to them. I've noticed this pattern where men will be "friends" with a woman, she'll be friendly to him but won't give him that much thought, and he rearranges his schedule to constantly be available for her. She doesn't pick up on this because she isn't actually analyzing his actio…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 09:53 AM
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a man who has slept with hundreds of women is probably a party animal that can't stop looking for validation, or is visiting a lot of prostitutes.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 09:43 AM
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I see a couple of problems with porn: Abuse of actual women in porn. Obviously hentai doesn't have this problem. From stories I've read, some of the girls on OnlyFans aren't exactly treated well by their customers, but of course that's much milder than women being literally trafficked and raped. Normalization of violence and degradation of women as a part of sex. Not as much of an issue with OnlyFans, although I'm sure they get some degrading requests from their fans. Hentai definitely takes thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 01:56 PM
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The state of government programs to support veterans is awful, I agree, but it is true that the general population respects men who are/were in the military. (also is this the case in "every country"? what are you basing this off of?)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/20 12:12 PM
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Men have always been valued for what they actually do, unlike women. In wartime it so happens that their most valuable contribution is participating in the military. These men are not devalued - men in the military are considered heroes. Even modern soldiers from the US participating in wars that have no reason to continue and who aren't actually contributing anything of value to "defend" their country are seen as heroes. Compare: men who die in wars vs. women who die in childbirth. Which one ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/20 11:25 AM
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For men, it's probably: Is she willing? Is she attractive? Boom, ready. For women: do I have adequate birth control? Am I going to be slut shamed? Am I likely to get an orgasm? Am I on my period/is my vag likely to be uncomfortable in any way? Can I trust this guy to stop when I say stop? And so on... Eh I agree it's worse for women, but sex isn't consequence-free for men either. "Am I going to get her pregnant?" in particular SHOULD be a major concern for men. The fact that it's frequently not …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/20 08:57 AM
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what are the roots of this double standard? How male vs female bisexuality is viewed. A lot of women are grossed out by men who are bisexual. Either because they assume by "bisexual" he actually means "gay and is only halfway out of the closet", because they have this idea that a man having sex with another man is somehow emasculating, or because they're worried about STDs. On the other hand, a lot of men don't view relationships between two women as being real. Men constantly tell lesbians that…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/20 08:45 PM
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Eh not really. I think a lot of the time, that fear is about him having a negative reaction that she doesn't want to deal with. There was a poster here who said something about how she once gave a guy she didn't want to see again a blowjob because it was easier than dealing with him becoming difficult when denied sex. Women are socialized to feel very bad about saying ever "no" to people and disappointing them, and this extends to sex even with men we don't like very much. Even when it is about …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 11:50 AM
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Do you view it as a positive thing (for you) if a woman is willing to succumb to pressure to have sex that she feels uncomfortable about?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/20 10:49 PM
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What about a woman who didn't actually feel ready to sleep with a guy on the first date, but she felt pressured and was afraid of saying "no"? Is she allowed to gain the confidence to say "no" to sex that she doesn't actually want, or has she forever locked herself into unwanted first date sex because she did it once? I think this is a more common scenario than this TRP fantasy of "all women just have different standards for Chad".
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/20 10:30 PM
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Some of each of 1,2,4,5. 1 - Young women are having less sex too, although it seems they are still having somewhat more than young men. 2 - Regardless of whether or not there's a solution, many young men are going to have to figure out how to be happy without sex. I wish MGTOW was actually a support group for men figuring out how to live their best lives without relationships and sex, and not just a "women bad lol" circlejerk. 4 - The direct "solutions" like "go back to controlling women's sexua…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 06:54 AM
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A girl I met on tinder literally shot her ex boyfriend for cheating. ... men do this kind of stuff WAY more often than women IME men are just as affected by bad relationships as women, but they just don't talk about it. Instead all of their baggage comes out in their next relationship, often in unhealthy ways (ex a guy who has been cheated on before becomes controlling and paranoid but refuses to have a productive conversation with his partner about it).
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/20 03:49 PM
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The "Nordic model" is the name that model is usually referred to by, even though the only Nordic countries where it's implemented are Sweden, Norway, and Iceland.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/20 03:53 PM
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Huh, I just got that info from the Wikipedia article on prostitution law, guess it was wrong!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/20 03:49 PM
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I'm also not convinced that the US is doing an awesome job of reporting murdered prostitutes True. 41 does seem unreasonably low. It was the only recent number I could find though. Sweden has pretty low crime to begin with Germany also has low crime, similar rates to Sweden. Is there a similar EU country where prostitution is illegal that could serve as a base of comparison? Apparently the only EU countries where it's actually illegal are Croatia and Lithuania, which I can't find numbers on and …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/20 02:07 PM
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It actually doesn't make it safer. In 2015, 41 prostitutes were murdered in the US (where it's illegal), and 70 were murdered in Germany (where it's fully legal and regulated), despite the US having 4x the population of Germany. Nordic model (buying is illegal, selling is legal - basically prostitution is illegal but prostitutes are not punished) seems to be the best for safety - there were 0 prostitutes murdered in 2015 in Sweden.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/20 01:15 PM
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why is that ironic? I do not think that the police should kill unarmed men, even if they are misogynists.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/20 06:30 PM
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It is, but full legalization doesn't seem to be a good solution. I'm in support of the Nordic Model (buying is illegal, selling is legal - basically, prostitution is illegal, but prostitutes can't get in trouble if they're caught and are still able to go to the police if they need to), which has actually been shown to lower rates of trafficking and violence against prostitutes
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/20 08:27 AM
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I'm really skeptical of this claim I mean, there's data supporting it. I cant imagine that say removing prohibition on alcohol or tobacco or porn or gambling or steroids is going to make the black market equivalents even boom more. Yes, because there's no supply-demand mismatch, also you are talking about products and not human beings. Everyone who wants alcohol can buy it for a price that reflects the cost of producing it. Read this thread - men hate the idea that going to a prostitute costs mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/20 08:21 AM
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THIS. If you look at the data, the spike in sexlessness in young people starts in 2008. Four years before Tinder was even released. I think technology and porn probably play a factor too (and are also areas where Japan was ahead of the curve), in that NEET-types are susceptible to getting lost in them rather than doing something productive and social, but the economic factors are still the original problem there.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/20 07:42 AM
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https://www.unlv.edu/sites/default/files/page_files/27/HumanTrafficking-ComparisonNationalNevadaTrends.pdf Nevada tied for 9th in the nation (with Pennsylvania) for human trafficking cases reported in 2017, with 199 cases (NHTRC, 2017). The most common form of trafficking in Nevada is sex trafficking. The proportion of sex trafficking victims in Nevada (89%) is higher than the national average (71%). 33rd most populous state has 9th most human trafficking cases, and a much higher percentage of t…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 09:26 PM
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at least here in Germany, they've tried repeatedly to fix the regulations and the situation hasn't improved. it's not as easy as just "well they should regulate it better" why would trafficking networks just disappear if it was legal worldwide? that makes no sense. the supply/demand mismatch would just get worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 09:14 PM
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trafficking is actually worse in countries where prostitution is legal (including places like germany and the netherlands). demand increases after legalization, but women still usually don't want to be prostitutes even when it's legal, so there's more incentive for trafficking
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 08:54 PM
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Where did you get those stats? I just tried googling it and got this site which says in filicide cases, the father is the killer 57% of the time. I also found this site which says: participants who had experienced physical abuse before the age of 15, 55.6% experienced abuse from their father/stepfather and 25.9% experienced abuse from their mother/stepmother (...) A British retrospective prevalence study of 2,869 young adults aged 18-24 (May-Chahal & Cawson, 2005) found that mothers were more li…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/20 01:20 PM
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Lots of women would be happy to take on the male role where you work full-time, the house magically stays clean, and the children are taken care of and you get more of the fun time spent with them. This is generally not an option, so the realistic ideal for these women is an egalitarian relationship where you both do roughly equal amounts of childcare and housework. There's some degree of sacrifice because there's a limited number of hours in the day, but it's completely realistic that both pare…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/20 09:43 AM
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The first guy, because I think the type of woman who invests in fixer-uppers is more likely to be the type who rationalizes and excuses red flags, like signs that he's going to be a cheater. I don't think her behavior would change the guy's propensity to cheat in either case though. Whether or not you view cheating is OK is just a personal moral value.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/20 04:10 PM
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Ah the phrasing there might have been ambiguous - I meant guys who ignore signals of disinterest and pursue you anyways. Which IMO is a red flag because he's probably going to ignore you expressing what you don't want in other ways in the future too. Didn't mean guys who take signals as disinterest as, well, signals of disinterest, and leave you alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/20 02:23 PM
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I mean we can argue about definitions but "playing hard to get" usually means intentionally giving off signals of disinterest and ambiguity The difference between "hmmm I dunno if I can fit you into my busy schedule this week ;)" (intentionally being coy about your schedule and putting the onus on them to push things further) and "I'd really love to see you this week, but the only night I'm free is Thursday, would that work for you?" (not being overly available, but making it clear that you want…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/20 01:45 PM
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playing hard-to-get makes no sense to me because you're actively selecting for men who ignore signals of disinterest i would advocate for women to actually BE hard-to-get (have a busy social life such that you can't easily drop everything to make time for him, be the kind of person who likes to get to know someone slowly because you have boundaries and know that you have other options), but you should still make it clear that you're actually interested and not play games
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/20 12:53 PM
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I think that should be up to the individual couple. There's certainly people for whom it works. Many people don't like it, and that's also fine, that's the agreement of monogamy - my sexuality is exclusively yours, and vice versa. So I conclude that blue pillers think that one can rationalize around this feeling of disgust to accept one's partner. Yes, because I don't believe that hardwired biological responses are the only source of disgust. You can be conditioned to be disgusted by something. …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/20 10:04 AM
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Yeah I think women care more about shared goals in a relationship for the reason I mentioned, but I don't think there's actually this dichotomy you're making where women don't care about the immediate parts of a relationship. I don't think it fits the title, because women who don't see shared goals with a man are often just going to not enter a relationship with him in the first place, so they can't break up over it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/20 06:04 PM
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I think there's a tendency for men to care less about shared goals in relationships, because they assume they will just live their lives however they want and their partner will mold herself and her own goals around him. Women think about that stuff more because we can't just make assumptions like "and then when I move for my job, he will quit his job and follow me...". I don't see women caring about interpersonal things less as a result though. Women talk about wanting a guy who is funny, smart…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/20 05:50 PM
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i think you responded to the wrong thread
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/20 02:45 PM
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The guy isn't even attractive in the eyes of many women who saw this, but the girl in question found him "so hot". And he was aware of this because she literally just gave him her number. The thing about men who are bold but not creepy is that they are good at reading people and figuring out when their advances are actually wanted. I doubt this guy goes around kissing random women he's briefly talked to all of the time - he guessed from the way she acted in their interaction that she would be op…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 04:34 PM
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Where did I say that? Of course women are the ones responsible for their own clothing choices (although "accountability" makes it sound like there's some moral aspect about how women dress). Just explaining the reasons why women are more likely than men to care about looking good in public, and why it isn't usually intended as an invitation for men to approach her, despite what many men think.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 03:08 PM
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The thing is that men assume "she doesn't dress like that at home, therefore she's dressing like that to actively solicit male attention" which is also not true. No, not even from Chad. Women have really internalized the idea that our value as human beings is tied to our attractiveness. A lot of women feel like we aren't allowed to take up space in the world unless we are doing so as pretty objects. It's about some vague sense of societal approval and feeling like she's an attractive person (and…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 10:54 PM
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This doesn't match my personal experience at all. All of the people I know who were hung up on their ex for years after the breakup were men. They'd date other women, but every time they were single, they'd just have to hit up that one ex to see if they could change her mind. Often with a bit of "oh no I ruined the one good relationship I ever had" melodrama. Every woman I know views her exes as either awful or as an asexual platonic friend. Women mope a lot more immediately post-breakup, but wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/20 01:26 PM
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Women never pedestalized men or thought that "being a nice person" meant you were entitled to an ideal partner. We don't get bitter when we realize that men are human beings who occasionally act cruelly, or that they also care about looks and charm, because it's rare to find a girl who hasn't figured this out long before puberty.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/19 01:20 PM
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Poorly. It's often men's "fault" because they're overwhelmingly the ones who are making movies, regardless of who they're aimed at. They either make women entirely about how they relate to men (the Bechdel test is a thing for a reason) or based on stereotypes about how all women hate each other. Probably the best way to improve this would just be to hire more women. That would be much easier to do than to convince large numbers of powerful men that women are independent people who don't just exi…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/19 11:30 AM
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Standoffish? Not able to flirt/show interest? Not meeting new people often enough? How is the rest of your social life? How do you act around guys that you like (or do you even meet guys that you like?)? The guys here are giving absolutely horrible advice btw. Definitely don't go out and sleep with guys you are not into on the off chance it will lead to a mediocre relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/19 08:22 AM
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Eh, it’s generally true that people treat you according to the expectations you set for them, but I don’t think just not wanting to get married is enough to make you the Cool Girl who gets walked all over. If you constantly feel like you need to be the chill low-maintenance girl for him, that’s more of a problem. Do you actually want to get married though? If so, it’s not like you can’t bring it up now and see how he reacts. I don’t see why it’s “too late”, you’re allowed to change your mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/19 09:40 AM
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Anorexia as a full-on mental illness generally develops as a response to low-grade starvation, usually but not always dieting, and eventually it just takes on a life of its own. Already attractive and thin women are generally hyper-aware of their looks and feel a lot of pressure to maintain them. The "ideal" female body promoted by the media tends to be slightly underweight, so a lot of healthy-thin women try to lose "just 5 or 10 lbs" and then slip into an eating disorder. It doesn't help that …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/19 08:31 AM
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no, I realized that liberal feminism didn't make much sense, and in trying to reconcile that, I came across more radical feminism arguments that made the most sense to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/19 10:12 AM
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I gave a few examples - dread game, pushing past LMR, thinking of women as children.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/19 05:15 PM
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Yeah, I think that's the point, but I just don't think either is a good screening mechanism. I don't know how a guy is supposed to know he likes me enough to pay for a fancy dinner before we've even gone on our first date. And I've never felt comfortable or interested enough to want to sleep with a guy after just one date. I think using those criteria is just going to find you desperate people with poor boundaries (or women who just really like sex and don't attach much importance to it, which s…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/19 05:09 PM
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Sorry, what part is manipulative?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/19 04:53 PM
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Sorry if I wasn't clear - I meant that screening out a woman for not putting out on the first date, is about on the same level as screening out a guy for not paying on the first date. Which is to say, bad advice, but not really "disgusting". TRP also has a lot of other advice that I would call disgusting, but I didn't really see anything that awful on FDS.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/19 04:14 PM
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from the BP side: This sub is only fun in small doses IMO. More than that and I'm just putting myself in a bad mood for no reason. I read here from time to time and it seems like the frequent BP posters are constantly changing but the same RP posters are still posting multiple times a day? Interestingly I came here (on an older account) ready to be sympathetic to incels and thinking TRP was just a little misguided, and TRP poking holes in my more libfem arguments just pushed me in the radfem dir…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/19 03:10 PM
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I mean it's definitely bad advice, but I don't think it's as disgusting as some of the stuff TRP promotes. So an RP guy goes on a date with a girl, she doesn't put out on the first date, and then he doesn't call her? You're going to screen out a lot of completely fine women with that rule, but it's not like anyone is really getting hurt. Contrast that to the gross parts of TRP like "make sure she lives in constant fear of you leaving her for someone better" or "if she doesn't want to sleep with …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/19 02:50 PM
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I don't agree with that strategy, but the impression that I got was that they wanted to use whether or not a man pays as a screening mechanism to see if he is likely to commit, not exploit men that they weren't interested in for free meals? I might be wrong though, I didn't spend too much time reading that sub. I don't think it's good advice for the same reason that "if she doesn't sleep with you on the first date, she's not into you" isn't good advice, but I'm not sure it's "disgusting"? I feel…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/19 02:42 PM
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women are able to accept criticism just fine, but we just give/pick up on criticism more subtly and indirectly. the level of harshness that most women respond best to will often fly over a guy's head agreed it's a "cultural" difference, but this idea that the male way to do things is automatically superior and women should adopt is bullshit. it's bizarre because it always comes from the same guys that are complaining that modern women are becoming too masculine??
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/19 05:27 PM
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The study is about men whose wives passed away, not men who got divorced.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/19 01:34 AM
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losing a spouse lowers men's life expectancy, but not women's He found men who are grieving after their wife's death experience a 30 per cent increase in mortality. For women, there is no increased chance of dying due to the loss of their husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/19 05:20 PM
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I don't really find Chris Brown attractive, but Dolph Lundgren looks a bit like an exaggerated caricature of masculinity. There's a limit to how much muscle and how strong of a jawline women find attractive, and he's way over it. Gay men might like him though.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/19 09:23 AM
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??? Career-focused women who become single mothers by choice in their 30's are not the ones on welfare, what?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/19 09:31 AM
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because the way TRP puts it, it's basically impossible for a woman to earn your trust, because AWALT and she always could leave you or cheat on you or secretly not be attracted you. The skepticism women promote is mostly limited to before you really know someone. Not to assume that someone you've been seeing for a while is going to suddenly rape and kill you, or constantly be on edge that he might cheat on you. There's a line where healthy skepticism turns into paranoia.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/19 06:53 AM
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for hours nonstop what. I'll just pretend you said 30 minutes or so here he tells you he wont go down on you Then we're sexually incompatible. I don't see why what he did with his exes would matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/19 08:29 PM
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They aren't actually lacking in nice features though? They're just young. Young women are the ones who are interested in K-pop, and young women do actually prefer young men. Internet tells me this guy is the most popular male kpop idol. He has very attractive features, he just looks feminine because he's a 23-year-old Korean guy wearing makeup.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/19 08:00 PM
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oh yeah, guys can definitely become more/less attractive based on behavior but thinking of it as "switching spots" within a group is a foreign way of thinking to me and I would guess for most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/19 06:56 PM
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OK yeah, there's a "most popular" among a group of women, but I don't think most individual women think of terms of "he's the hottest guy in the group".
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/19 06:54 PM
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Who even thinks about this? Women don't rank men the way men rank women. "Hottest guy in the group" is not a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/19 06:43 AM
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I draw the line at emotional cheating or indulging in crushes, which I think is just one of those "know it when you see it" things that's hard to make hard rules about. Maybe "don't talk to any individual woman that I feel uncomfortable about" would be an OK rule. There was exactly one time in my life I was (correctly - they are married now) very uncomfortable with a female friend, and that friendship was limited to group hangs IIRC. It was just obvious from how they acted around each other and …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/19 09:23 PM
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female/blue Yes obviously men can be victims of sexual harassment and rape, and it should be taken just as seriously. I do think in some ways that a woman's experience on average is not as bad as men's. Really violent rape is going to be mostly male-on-female because of the strength difference, also I'd expect women to feel more helpless and weak afterwards because they realize how defenseless they are against men. But that has nothing to do with handling individual cases, and I think the victim…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/19 02:48 PM
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The fuck? No. "Conditions" of marriage is messed up. Like, get that figured out well before you propose!?! I think relationships should allow some degree of "this thing is really important to me, can you change it for me even though you don't agree with it", but social media isn't one of those for me. FB is a big part of communication/event planning among most of the people I know. That way crosses the line of controlling/isolating to me. I guess maaybe if it was specifically "can you not post s…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/19 07:15 PM
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"Maybe zone" isn't a thing, unless you don't know the person well enough to decide if you like them. Also most people don't really know that. Yeah, that's part of the problem with guys who friendzone themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/19 02:36 PM
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You can almost never change lack of attraction in someone who isn't attracted to you. You find someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/19 12:56 PM
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I think he should admit his feelings when he has them. Usually this is when you're more acquaintances than close friends, but even if it isn't, a decent guy will just ask you out if he likes you. If he gets rejected and you're close, he should actually communicate "I need some time apart", and you might end up being friends later once he's over you (works best if he's started dating someone else). What's shitty is guys who will hide their feelings for ages - generally they did have feelings earl…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/19 08:14 AM
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Do you have many male friends? Like actual close friends and not just acquaintances. Yes. I generally prefer female friends, but I'm in comp sci, so it's kind of an occupational hazard. How many of them, if any, do you think secretly want to have sex with you? I think a few of them wouldn't say no if I asked, the taken ones were single, and our friendship somehow wouldn't be weird after. I don't get the impression that it's something they spend much time actually thinking about. Does that make y…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/19 09:06 PM
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Fuuuck porn. Prostitution that's apparently cool because you're filming it. Going with the radfems on this one. I don't think it's good for men who watch it or their female partners either. Constant exposure to sexual variety that you'd never get IRL + normalizes degrading sex. Finding young women attractive is one thing, but there's a huge difference between occasionally seeing an 18-year-old going about her life and thinking she's hot, and getting off every day to watching a new one getting fu…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/19 06:29 PM
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Is your question "why would the OP of that AITA thread find that situation uncomfortable?" or "why are you personally not into poly relationships?"? I thought you meant the first, but everyone is answering the second. First question, I think poly relationships still have a cultural vibe of being mostly sexual or a "fetish" thing than a legitimate romantic relationship to a lot of people. It feels like telling your kids about a threesome or inviting family members who are in a 24/7 BDSM relations…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/19 12:31 PM
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Read the longer excerpt, she wasn't modeling it for him: https://www.thecut.com/2019/06/donald-trump-assault-e-jean-carroll-other-hideous-men.html (search for "hich brings me to the other rich boy" to skip to the part on Trump) This is gonna be hilarious, I’m saying to myself — and as I write this, I am staggered by my stupidity. As we head to the dressing rooms, I’m laughing aloud and saying in my mind: I’m gonna make him put this thing on over his pants! I am also staggered by her stupidity he…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/19 10:10 PM
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What I think men don't really get is how physically uncomfortable weight loss is as a woman. Dieting or maintaining the borderline-underweight look that's in style just does not feel good. You're constantly obsessively thinking about food, freezing cold all the time, your periods get irregular and you're moody and your sex drive plummets, that sort of stuff. Like yes CICO is obviously technically correct, but even with the willpower to do that, women have a stronger physical reaction to weight l…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/19 07:19 PM
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Does a distinction between the two exist? yes, obviously. "Nice guy" refers to a guy who pretends to be nice for sex, particularly the fact that he abruptly turns into an asshole the second he gets turned down. How easy is it for women to tell whether the guy they’re dating is genuinely nice or a Nice Guy (TM)? By seeing how he treats other people that he doesn't want anything from. The "look at how he treats the waiter" rule is a thing for a reason. Are genuinely nice guys unattractive sexually…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/19 11:08 AM
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Adopting babies is difficult! There's a ton of older kids in the foster system, yeah, but there's way more parents that want healthy (... white) infants than healthy infants available.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/19 06:26 PM
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Likely nothing. The thing is that TRP occasionally describes events that happen in reality, but then comes up with these wild theories about why those events happen, and morally questionable strategies about how men should act as a result. Like, yes, women do sometimes divorce their husbands and then get remarried afterwards. I do not believe "hypergamy" is universally the cause of this. I also don't think that being constantly paranoid and refusing to get attached because "it's just your turn",…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/19 09:29 PM
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Do you actually want a woman who you accidentally knock up to be forced to have the baby (and you are thus forced to pay child support)? Sounds like you're screwing yourself over in the name of "equality". Should we stop concerning ourselves with things like prostate cancer and testosterone replacement therapy that have no female biological equivalent too?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/19 09:36 AM
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When has feminism ever been about "equality"? It's about issues that affect women. There's no "equality" in abortion anyways, because men don't have uteruses.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/19 08:30 AM
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I have such a reaction if a gay dude actually shows me IOIs. Otherwise I don't care. Why though? I don't care if a lesbian woman shows interest in me. Honestly it's preferable, because I know she's unlikely to get aggressive if I turn her down.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/19 09:12 PM
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Why do you think so many men have such a visceral "gross, get this faggot away from me" reaction to gay men? Does it bother men just as much to see a stylish feminine guy who has a girlfriend? I get that being called gay is pretty bad in homophobic areas, but why does the existence of gay men bother straight men so much?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/19 08:59 PM
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Why would it?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/19 08:28 PM
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Men are aware of how sexually aggressive and predatory men often are, and they don't personally want to be the target of it, is my guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/19 07:55 PM
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Do moms raise their sons to be beta so that they become another BB for her? Or do they like to raise their sons to be alpha so that they protect her? what is this oedipus shit lol Idk I think overprotective parenting in general stunts social skills, not sure it's a single mom thing. There's tons of guys who blame their dads for making them into a "beta" too.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/19 07:37 AM
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So I think there's two separate problems of "there's something specifically wrong that needs to be addressed via communication" and "the relationship dynamic just broke and everyone is resentful now". I don't totally agree with MRP's approach to the second (it's too manipulative), but I don't think sitting down with a therapist and talking your feelings in circles is necessarily the best solution either. Just stop being lazy/doughy/unromantic is probably better advice than sitting there and sayi…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/19 02:10 PM
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I mean I personally agree with Roe v Wade that abortion is a bodily autonomy issue and banning it is federally unconstitutional. But either way, it's obviously a feminist issue. I keep hearing "modern western feminists already have everything they could want, we don't need it anymore. feminism is just misandry now!". And yet here is an example that is clearly not about getting "extra" privileges against men or fostering a victim mentality. I would think that feminism is probably the best movemen…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/19 09:15 AM
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Yeah, but the point I was trying to make there was that men just don't care enough to make women-free spaces for themselves. The Boy Scouts situation honestly I disagree on, but given how awful Girl Scouts is (we did not go camping, but I learned how to make crafts and sell cookies! Ugh), I don't really blame girls for trying to join the Boy Scouts.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/19 10:58 AM
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I meant the "women are worthless as people other than as holes to fuck" mentality.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/19 07:33 AM
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? You mean it wouldn't be allowed? Just start a gated community marketed towards MGTOW types and have the HOA reject all women as a cultural mismatch. Or do what some women's only communities have done and just have a bunch of land and communicate its existence via word-of-mouth.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/19 07:32 AM
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i have problems with those statistics but I don't want to get into that right here So we'll ignore domestic violence, although even in that case we still see more women than men being sent to the hospital, regardless of who is slapping their partner across the face at home. But who kills people (partners and non-partners) more? Who commits more violent crime in general? Who commits mass shootings? Do you genuinely believe that if each gender had a desire commit gendered genocide, that men wouldn…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/19 07:23 AM
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people who think "we don't need feminism anymore!", what do you think of the current situation in the US where a number of states are trying to pass anti-abortion laws?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 06:33 PM
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Lmao yes they absolutely do. There are so many men out there who think that a woman's only use is sex (and are weirdly into the whole hate-sex thing). Women make their own spaces because they get tired of being harassed by men. You are welcome to make a male-only gated community free of women's aggressiveness if you like!! No one really cares about women talking about having a male-free world because everyone knows it's not going to happen. The reverse is terrifying because everyone knows men ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 05:37 PM
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And then she says “Well I have been celibate for 3 months. And I am guarding my pussy. Every time I have had sex on the first night, it either turns into just sex or I never hear from the guy again. My pussy has power, and I respect myself and my body and I don’t do that any more. Any man that wants the goods from me, well, he has to work for this. I need to make sure that he is worthy of me.” said no actual woman ever, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/19 08:35 AM
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Not quite "the same" because women will opt out of sex a lot more easily (lack of appealing options, broken relationship dynamic, uhhh apparently as an abortion protest?), but I mean we still actively want and enjoy it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/19 05:46 PM
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oh thanks for letting me know, all this time I thought I actually enjoyed sex
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/19 05:45 PM
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The point was just that women enjoy sex too and aren't using it just as a bargaining chip in relationships. It's something to enjoy together, not a favor she's doing for him. Outside of relationships, women are happy to go without until someone they like comes along. Men are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/19 05:10 PM
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Who is saying men and women are sexually equal?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/19 04:20 PM
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... she said they controlled for hours worked?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/19 04:17 PM
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Domestic abuse is not caused by anger issues - this is something that's pretty well-supported by both resources to help victims and to rehabilitate abusers. Anger management courses actually do nothing to help abusers. They have specific "batterer intervention programs" now that are more about helping abusers deal with their feelings of wanting to control their partners, and those are actually pretty effective. Abusers are extremely controlled, to the point that it's pretty creepy how easily the…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/19 04:00 PM
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I still don't get the panic over this. Like.. Men do the exact same thing. RP men advocate doing this. Sleep around with hot crazy promiscuous party girls, settle down with nice girl with her head on straight even if she's not as physically attractive. Also women don't actually want to settle down with the bad boy, if he doesn't grow out of it. Idk if I'd say doing the dishes is a turn-on, but NOT doing the dishes is a massive turn-off. It's not cute when, say, you have a baby and you guys need …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/19 09:26 AM
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Wait where did I say that double standards are bad?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/19 03:54 PM
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By my personal value system no, those aren't as bad (the money one might be depending on the context). I would guess that you feel differently.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/19 03:25 PM
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yeah and now we're back to discussing the semantics of the word "OK". I'm honestly not sure how else to explain it - for me, the difference between "go for it, but I'm going to judge you for it" and "definitely not OK" is just intuitive and it seems like the other commenters got what I meant.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/19 06:21 PM
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I would socially police someone for cheating. Not for dating a virgin or turning down someone who sleeps around.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/19 06:06 PM
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Where did legislation come into it? I specifically picked cheating because it's not illegal lol. I would (and have) socially "police" someone who was trying to cheat. I'm not going to tell anyone who to date. I'll disagree with them if they start slut-shaming but I'd never say "you can't date this person" (ok, excepting like, minors or someone with a history of violence, but not just for being a virgin) or "you have to date this person".
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/19 06:03 PM
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because I'm not authoritarian enough to think policing people's dating choices is a reasonable thing to do
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/19 05:42 PM
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I don't want to get too deep into a semantic argument about the definition of "OK", but I would differentiate between "against my morals personally" and "things I think people should absolutely never do". It's the difference between something like voting for a political party I don't like (go for it, but I'm going to judge you), and cheating on someone (never OK).
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/19 05:20 PM
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If you're fine with putting around 16% of adult men in jail AND 3 to 8% of adult women in jail, then sorry for misunderstanding and wasting your time. Yeah that's fine. I mean, probably not so fine for the economy, but morally correct obviously.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/19 05:11 PM
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You should probably only date people you are attracted to. "It's wrong to not date high N women" comes across like you're supposed to have an affirmative action policy for your dick or hypnotize yourself into being attracted to certain women. Guys who aren't into high N women usually have the reasoning "I think high-N women are gross/broken/used". I think that reasoning is morally shitty and misogynistic, and I'm going to judge anyone who believes that. I'm not going to try to force them to date…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/19 05:03 PM
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Sorry what? I didn't say anything about female rapists. The thread is about male rapists and I was making a comment on their prevalence to someone who said male rapists are very rare. If you put 16% of college-educated men (and of course 0% of women) into jail for rapes that they may or may not have committed, of women that may or may not feel victimized by this experience, your economy will collapse. That's the point I was making - if we (somehow, this is fantasy obviously because rape cases ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/19 05:33 AM
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4-16% is A LOT. Note that 4-16% of college-educated men have not been to jail for rape. You know at least a few rapists. I doubt you know many murderers. And that is just literal rape. Regardless of how you feel about the whole rape culture thing, this has a ton of non-rape examples of things that are still illegal or at least fireable that way more men participate in or condone. #notliterallyallmen, but way too fucking many.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/19 05:48 PM
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Studies have shown that male rapists are very rare, but commit a lot of rape. In fact, some estimates place 2 out of 100 men as responsible for 70% of the rapes. 1 out of 50 is not really my definition of "very rare", but what about the other ~30% of incidents? Do they not count because the guy only raped one or two women? This agrees that the repeat rapists are responsible for the lion's share of the cases, but puts the percentage of college men who have committed rape at all at somewhere betwe…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/19 05:20 PM
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Huh? Your comment made it sound like these women should be fearing that their husbands will leave them - did I read it wrong? The reality of these sort of relationships is that women do a disproportionate amount of work, complain about this to the man, it doesn't improve, and then the woman leaves (and goes onto write angry articles about it lol). Men aren't leaving these relationships, because they know it's in their interest to hold onto their bangmaid-mommy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/19 06:54 PM
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you're inventing a problem that doesn't exist. Men in these kind of relationships are happy to stay in them aside from occasionally whining that their partner "nags too much". The women are the ones who get fed up and leave and contribute to all of those statistics like "70% of divorces are initiated by women" and "single women are happier than single men".
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/19 06:42 PM
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You mean this: http://hdr.undp.org/en/composite/GII ? Yeah I'm not taking any metric that puts Switzerland at the top of egalitarianism as something that measures feminist attitudes. It's a metric mainly for issues like "do women die in childbirth?" and "do women attend school?".
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/19 09:49 AM
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By which metric? The workforce participation and salaries are clearly not egalitarian. It's really just a cultural thing. There's other countries in the rich European welfare state group like Finland where women work full-time. Generous social policies combined with sexist attitudes about women in the workplace are what's going to lead to women using those policies.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/19 08:26 PM
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Policy isn't the relevant factor. If your culture ("society") tells you that women should be the ones to stay home with the kids and that they shouldn't be competitive at work because that's a man's world, a good number of women are going to do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/19 07:51 PM
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European countries really aren't any more feminist than the US in the ideology. They have better social policies that benefit women, but the attitudes about gender roles are basically the same. The policy in NL isn't as bad as it sounded there anyways - the 1 and 16 weeks are just the ones that are 100% paid. There's another partially-paid 26 weeks you can split between the parents however you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/19 07:33 PM
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Not quite - there's an extra 26 weeks of parental leave that can be split up however the parents want. Seems like the exact number is employer-specific, but you get some percentage of your usual salary during that time and you get to keep your job afterwards. I'd guess the 16 weeks are to recover from birth and promote breastfeeding?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/19 07:28 PM
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The guys I was attracted to at 28 were different then the ones at 22, and in fact I no longer was attracted to the same types of guys I was attracted to at that age 28-year-old women tend not to date 22-year-old men, this is true. I think this theory completely misses that going from fun irresponsible party animal to boring stable adult over the course of your 20's is a pretty normal development for both men and women. A lot of those guys who are a "different type of man" are the exact same men,…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/19 03:34 PM
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I don't know if the UK or the US is worse, but in a world where there are more than 2 countries, the UK is pretty damn Orwellian.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/19 11:33 AM
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I have a hard time seeing how this could actually suss out whether or not someone is making a false accusation short of the accuser literally admitting it in a text or showing that it was logistically impossible that they was alone with the accused. How do you use a "full picture of their relationship" to determine if someone was raped? You can voluntarily go spend time alone with someone you're flirting with and still be raped. You can be married to a someone and still be raped by them (idgaf h…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/19 11:21 AM
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Age gap is a major predictor of divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/19 02:00 PM
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i would just like to understand the logic of "sluts are gross because higher N-count means higher chance of divorce" while age gap relationships are apparently OK
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/19 01:36 PM
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do you actually think that this is more interesting than instagram and netflix?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/19 10:35 PM
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i usually don't bring up the arguing about gender dynamics on reddit thing at parties
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/19 10:34 PM
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My Socially Acceptable and Productive Hobbies are rock climbing, hiking/camping/"the outdoors", activism, recently learning to play the piano. I also like non-fiction, because apparently liking junk pop-science books is more honorable than reading fiction by your value system. Oh and I'm a huge dork for learning about languages and foreign cultures, but I'm not sure if it fits your snobby definition of hobby if I watch trashy TV because it's in Norwegian. Otherwise I just hang out with my friend…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/19 01:43 PM
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In sex ed? Hell no. Psych or biology could briefly touch on human sexuality I guess. I'm fine with schools teaching things to keep the kids safe (consent, maybe how to identify abuse), but not how to get them laid, eww.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/19 08:39 AM
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Way too many guys here are quick to non-critically accept scientific studies that validate their opinions, which is a bit odd if they're supposedly all rational STEMlords. For your example, there's actually some research against that one in particular lol. A lot of the gap disappears if you change the phrasing of spatial reasoning questions, or if you have both groups play video games for a few hours before the test. Likewise it's easy to make a study that observes "women are more agreeable" or …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/19 08:08 PM
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Women take an earnings hit, men don't, I'd assume that leads to a bigger pay discrepancy within couples. Not sure how things are in the UK, but in Germany, it's pretty normal for mothers to work part-time until the kids are old enough to be home by themselves, because of cultural expectations and schools that send their kids home at lunchtime. So the gap within couples is definitely bigger than in the US, because Americans send their kids to daycare more, go back to work earlier, and don't think…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/19 06:57 PM
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Idk I would say I'm thoroughly blue/leaning towards blank-slatist, but this sub just gets exhausting if I post here more than sporadically. Wouldn't be surprised if other blue women are the same way. I find dating dynamics and gender dynamics really interesting, but it's just so boring when every other topic is "Men and women always act differently, I know this because of evopysch I just pulled out of my ass and a very inaccurate understanding of history. Also women are awful. CMV. Except don't …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/19 06:29 PM
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Notice how this gap isn't so dramatic in Britain or Germany? no I have not noticed: https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2019/01/28/how-big-is-the-wage-penalty-for-mothers
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/19 04:48 PM
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Your title is incorrect. American women are not the most educated worldwide, they are just more educated than American women were in the past. Likewise it is educated women who are the ones most experiencing those discrepancies, compared to less educated Americans, not to educated women abroad. The usual thing in Europe is that mother takes the generous parental leave, and sometimes works part-time after (someone has to be home for those German kids getting out of school at lunchtime...), which …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/19 04:46 PM
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Display slight interest with plausible deniability, see how she responds, escalate or back off depending on that. What orbiters do is completely ignore the lack of reciprocation and assume if they just keep trying (while maintaining that plausible deniability), she'll come around. I get that a lot of people here are socially awkward (or actually autistic), but it's a learnable skill most people figure out in early adulthood. Guys usually grow out of the orbiter behavior by then.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/19 08:41 AM
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Of course it's OK to have your preferences. No one wants to make anyone date people they're not into, that's pretty unfair to both parties. I'm still allowed to think your preferences come from you being a shitty person. Never seen a man be upset about high-N women without having some really misogynistic views about female sexuality. Those views are the thing that pisses me off, not the guy's dating habits.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 07:03 PM
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I mean, it's a specific and obvious pattern of behavior that is more narrow than just "suitor". Guys who pretend to be your friend with the mentality that if they do you enough favors (often under the guise of just being "a good friend"), eventually you will sleep with or fall in love with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 03:40 PM
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Oh man no, orbiters are most definitely a thing, unfortunately. Guys who act like they just want to be friends, are way too eager to drop everything for you whether you ask or not, and either flip out or go missing as soon as you start dating someone else. They get their own category. There's plenty of people who can be friends with someone with a "eh, I'd probably go on a date with them if the circumstances worked out" in the back of their mind - those are not orbiters.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 03:00 PM
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are you attractive enough so (a) OLD doesn't really expose you to hotter guys than those who already hit on you before and (b) the guys who are willing to date you are also as hot as the guys who are willing to fuck you? Idk, I guess? Fit white girl, not sure I'd say I'm exceptionally attractive or anything though. Less attractive guys do put in noticeably more effort than attractive guys, but that's obvious on OLD too? You get those super likes and immediate long replies from the mediocre guys …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 01:52 PM
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I think you're the one who needs to make your intentions clear in the beginning then. Otherwise you're doing the covert-contract-friendship thing yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 01:08 PM
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Have you ever actively tried acquiring orbiters or were you naive enough to think they were just really good friends before finding how covert contracts work? Not really. Naivety when I was younger (like, high school age). I was very sad when I realized a few of my male friendships hinged on me being single. What do you feel when you get the attention of a low value male? If it's someone I wanted to be friends with or who I have to interact with regularly, "ughhh I don't want to deal with this".…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 12:38 PM
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Why would it? I know I can sleep with attractive men from having left my house and met them without OLD. I can't see this theory working for anyone other than socially awkward shut-ins.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 09:42 AM
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can you guys stop making up weird fanfiction about people's lives so it fits your RP narrative? I went on dates with hot guys and told them I wasn't feeling it afterwards when they asked me back to their place. Idk I find it hard to develop attraction doing things OLD-style compared to just meeting someone IRL.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 09:41 AM
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I've been on a few OLD dates, decided it felt weird and artificial and gave up. Never slept with any of them though. It didn't really change my standards at all? Like, I go outside sometimes, I know how men react to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 06:11 AM
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Idk, you'd have to ask the guys who are short or bald or have small dicks. Why are you writing a post about how there's some conspiracy theory to only allow female self-love movements, instead of asking those guys?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/19 08:36 PM
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Inb4 "go create it". Actually this though? Fat women didn't just sit home doing nothing and then the left-leaning media wrote articles for them telling them they were valid and beautiful. It's a thing individual people actually fought for despite criticism against them. Why do you guys think that social movements are things that happen passively to people, and not things that people need to actively do? There's no bald acceptance movement because bald men are not making it. Either they don't car…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/19 08:25 PM
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This is just standard feel-good girl platitudes on the same level of "you are beautiful just the way you are!". With a bit of "hey maybe don't date a guy who treats you like garbage" mixed in. I've probably said "you deserve better" to a friend before, I didn't mean literally "the world owes you a perfect man", just "you are accepting some really shitty behavior and it is realistic that you could up your standards a bit and still not die alone".
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/19 04:14 PM
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Idk I feel like most of this answer is coming from the assumption that the guy is a thirsty orbiter type and doesn't care about the friendship otherwise. Guessing either that applies to you now, or did in the past and now you avoid having female friends? How highly do you really think of him if you’d rather fuck a stranger even though you have an emotional connection with him? It's basically like, not wanting to start a business with a family member. It often has nothing to do with your respect/…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/19 01:28 PM
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You mean for an FWB? Because it might get messy and change/ruin the friendship. Maybe he'll catch feelings, maybe you'll catch feelings even if you consciously realize he's not someone you want to date, maybe he'll get weirdly sexually jealous of your future boyfriend, maybe your future boyfriend won't feel comfortable if you remain friends with your old FWB, whatever. Sex is cheap as a woman, why risk a good friendship when you can get it elsewhere?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/19 03:25 PM
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What makes you think you would know that? I've dated guys who were shy and where I've made the first move (although tbh I don't think that's a great predictor of whether or not a guy has a dominant personality in general). I've been attracted to 100% of the guys I dated because uh, why else would I date them, but the more dominant types just get sooo exhausting after you're dating them for a bit. He's always right, we have to do what he wants to do (or what he thinks I want to do, regardless of …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/19 01:24 PM
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Personally, I find guys who are particularly strong-minded/confident/assertive to be a huge turn-off. The other side of those traits is stuff like arrogance, inability to compromise, even controlling, and I can't stand dealing with stuff like that. I'd much rather date a guy who is a little insecure. Looking at my social circle and conversations I've had with friends, I don't think this view is that uncommon.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/19 12:27 PM
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It's the new term for "cool girl"
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 07:19 PM
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I mean, there's friendships that fall into that grey zone of "I find you attractive and I'd consider dating, if we were both single and the feeling was mutual and the timing was right, but I'm not going to pine over you or avoid dating other people". I usually pick up on that, yeah, but I still think those can be proper real friendships. It just requires the guy not making the friendship conditional on my romantic feelings, or crudely pouncing on me the second I'm single even when I'm clearly st…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 03:24 PM
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Sometimes, not every single day and usually on the lighter side. Why? It's fun and it looks nice. I don't like the idea that women need to have perfect blemish-free faces 100% of the time and I'm not going to play along with that (admittedly my skin is pretty OK, I can imagine people with acne feel differently), but idk it's just another aspect of fashion that's fun sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 12:48 PM
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Female/feminist I don't think equality of opportunity is enough because it totally misses all of the cultural socialization/stereotyping associated with gender. So I'd define discrimination as lack of equality of opportunity OR inequality of outcome due to socialization/stereotypes. Like, whatever you think about exactly 50% representation in STEM (and I don't want to get into arguing the specifics here), there is at least SOME effect of culture telling women they aren't cut out for STEM. So I d…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 12:19 PM
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But the relevant question is, given an unhealthy relationship, is divorce or not better for the kids? Obviously if you compare kids with divorced parents, to kids with parents in a healthy relationship, the latter are going to be psychologically healthier. Do you think your boyfriend would have been better off growing up with parents who hated each other?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/19 07:47 PM
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It really can't that easily, at least not "beyond a reasonable doubt". Emotional abuse is such a mindfuck BECAUSE your partner is usually able to gaslight you into believing some false "reasonable" explanation for their actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/19 02:47 PM
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Yeah idk, that'd be a bit high maintenance for me personally. Sounds like some of the other girls here wouldn't mind though.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/19 11:24 AM
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Define "more than basic skincare products"? If you're talking like, 10-step Korean skincare routine with snail serum and nightly sheet masks, yeah that's kind of weird. I don't care if you want to have clear/healthy skin or deal with specific skin issues, but a guy being obsessed with looking 30 at 60 is odd. The important parts of youth to hang onto are physical health and openmindedness IMO. I'd rather die than look in the mirror and see an aged man. Yeah THIS is unattractive because it's so n…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/19 09:59 AM
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Depends on the age difference, the age of the younger woman, and his actions/immaturity/history of dating younger women. Idk if you can be the "creepy older guy" to a woman over 25 or so, like there's a point where you expect people to not be that naive anymore. 30 and 50 is a little weird but it's probably not creepy. Also I don't think say, 21 and 28 is inherently 100% of the time creepy. Sometimes people just come across someone awesome with a bit of an age gap. But if there's a pattern of th…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 10:40 AM
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In other words, she relatively lacks the qualities that would make her an asset to a stronger pairing: A stronger pairing only to the kind of man who values having an equal partnership. The "creepy older guy" type specifically chases younger woman because he is looking for someone who is naive and has low self-esteem. All of those "less"'s are assets in his eyes because he wants someone easy to control.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 09:42 PM
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Sorry what? I think you're confusing me with someone else. That was my first post on this thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 09:27 PM
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I don't think you understand what the term "toxic masculinity" (or "patriarchy") means. Patriarchy (via Wiki): Patriarchy is a social system in which men hold primary power and predominate in roles of political leadership, moral authority, social privilege and control of property. Toxic masculinity (as I most frequently see it used by anyone who has any idea of what they're talking about, and is the intended use in the quote in your post): Other scholars have used the term toxic masculinity to r…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 12:56 PM
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Can we agree that watching porn with children is creepy and not about "appreciating beauty"? IMO bringing children to Hooters is similar, just much much milder.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/19 04:29 PM
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Creepy in the sense of intentionally exposing children to sexuality. Creepy in the same way that watching porn with your kids is creepy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/19 03:14 PM
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Nope. Bringing his kids is creepy towards the kids, not towards the women. It's kind of a trashy restaurant, but some guy friends going to ogle the waitresses is pretty mild when it comes to objectifying women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/19 03:06 PM
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?? The purpose of going to a football game is to watch football, not to watch cheerleaders. You can't shield kids from the existence of sexuality in culture unless you never let them leave the house, but it's really goddamn weird and creepy to bring them to an explicitly sexual place like Hooters.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/19 02:47 PM
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What makes you think he is forcing sexuality on children? It is clear from the picture that the father isn't forcing anything on the kids. The kids appear appreciative and willing. Um. Please imagine this paragraph in any other context. (yes I am aware he is bringing his kids to a restaurant and not literally being a child rapist, but that logic is really gross and predatory)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/19 02:38 PM
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Ehhhh preteens are seeing much worse on Pornhub these days. I don't think the objectification of women is suddenly going to occur to them because they saw some women in short-shorts and tank tops. But Hooters is most definitely trashy and intentionally sexual. It's not a "family restaurant" and seriously no one thinks it's part of the same group as TGI Friday's and Applebee's. And bringing your kids is just... weird and kind of creepy? Like would you sit down and watch tasteful porn with your ki…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/19 02:30 PM
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Wait what? My flair just looks like the female symbol to me, how did that turn into 44-year-old man??
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/19 03:41 PM
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Alpha widowing is seriously not a thing. The only people who ever support it are men who are grossed out by high-N women, and low-N women who want to play holier-than-thou. Atlas' description is how female sexuality works and how I've seen nearly every other woman on this sub describe it. We honestly don't compare, and if we really like a guy, every other man is effectively asexual (past partners included).
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/19 02:13 PM
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"Feminism aside", because I'm not that concerned about the plight of trafficked sex bots. Like I said, if you ignore that whole thing where prostitutes are human beings, still not sure how it's that different (coming from a place where prostitution is legal and affordable).
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/19 09:07 AM
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germany
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/19 09:04 AM
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Despite the rhetoric, most men aren't harassers. Yeah, but most women have been sexually harassed at some point, hence why we care about it (and we hope men care about it because of the whole empathy thing). 20% of the harassers commit 80% of the harassment, probably.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/19 10:39 PM
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How much shit do we actually do mostly to impress potential sexual partners (bluepillers love to say "nothing!!" When has anyone ever said that? Bonus: You noticed what wasn't in the video? Sexbots leading to misogyny and objectification of women Huh, almost as if it was written by men. Feminism and women-are-people aside for a minute, I don't see the difference between sex bots and prostitutes? Yeah men will use them, but writing here from the land of 15 euro blowjobs and brothels that offer "a…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/19 10:26 PM
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#MeToo started early-mid October 2017, the polling is from Oct 30-31 2017. So right after it started, not before.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/19 02:00 PM
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your post is way too hard to read Tinder is a silly artificial environment that's strongly biased in favor of women. "Would swipe right on in Tinder" is not a great measure of women's sexual attraction. If you define it as "could have a good and satisfying sex life within an LTR" or even "would hook up with after a brief conversation IRL", you're going to get very different results. Women generally aren't as interested in casual sex as men are, and if you're using that as your metric, you're goi…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/19 11:38 AM
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Because sex-selective infanticide is common enough in China and India that it has a substantial impact on the overall gender ratio. Which is relevant to this sub because gender ratio impacts dating culture (although I still have no idea what the hell the OP is going on about).
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/19 12:42 PM
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https://www.indexmundi.com/united_states/sex_ratio.html 25-54 years: 1 male(s)/female yes this is accepted given that it is literally a fact Documented in China & India..for obvious reasons. Is the USA there yet? I wasn't aware Americans (excluding a small number of 1st gen immigrants, but this sub seems to go by "only white people count anyways" so 🙄) regularly perform sex-selective abortion or infanticide? it just seems like there's wayyyyyyyy more men Where do you live and which social circle…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/19 10:05 AM
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Thanks for keeping this sub running guys! I don't read here enough to have strong opinions on most of the modding either way, but I was wondering, what exactly counts as "incel content"? In my (very biased) opinion "nope, 80/20 rule, women are never going to be attracted to anyone but Chad" never adds anything to the discussion and I'd be happy to see it go. Is that kind of stuff reportable?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/19 08:55 AM
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Nah I mean, it comes across as weird when men do it because it's so out of the norm. It is definitely weird/sad that women do this too and we think it's normal. (although I'm sure the existence of incel subs where guys all agree "yep, everyone under 6' is doomed to die alone" vs. women responding "omg nooo you are soooo pretty!!" plays a factor here in how weird it is comes across too)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/19 07:55 AM
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Women are redpilled/blackpilled/whateverpilled by society at an early age. Every little girl understands looks are heavily tied to her value as a person, and she is very aware of everything that differs from whatever the beauty ideal is. You know how completely weird it is when incel types absolutely obsess about their jaw angle and height and such? Basically every woman has done this about some body part or other. Look at something like that whole thigh gap trend. It was completely about meetin…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/19 07:37 PM
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That women help create. ??? I am totally missing the connection here. Infertile women are allowed to be insecure too because of societal gender roles, not because of their reproductive ability. Actually women are at fault here. They still want providers and protectors - and men who are "stoic" and uber masculine. See: every gangster's girlfriend ever. If you're part of a dangerous culture, obviously you want a "protector" man. I literally physically cannot defend myself against an adult man. It'…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/19 10:50 AM
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Women can be passive and not go up and hit on a guy but a man has to be brave and risk humiliation and make the first move, because her feels are too delicate and she has a womb. Maybe men should stop being so aggressive about pursuing women then? I don't really have any need to be less passive, it's working fine for me. Women can be insecure and it's not held against them because if they were censured as hard as men for being insecure her feels are too delicate and she has a womb. Wtf does this…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/19 10:21 AM
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Go ask Dr. Google for the reasons why women get C-sections. It's not because of their inferior narrow-hip genes if that's what you're getting at.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/19 03:48 PM
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Huh, good question. I'd ideally put sex anywhere between "stopped seeing other people" and "official relationship", or right after being official. It would be really weird if he wanted to be in a committed relationship and then keep waiting after that. 1-3 months would be a good range I guess?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/19 01:53 PM
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I'd ask him why because it's culturally out of the norm and I don't think most guys have a "that girl who led me on and used me for sex" or "that girl who pressured me into having sex before I was ready" story, but I don't think I'd actually be offended by it. I would expect a reasonable timeline, like I'm not waiting 6 months, but I think it'd be NBD if he wanted to wait a little longer than me. No, I have never been in this situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/19 10:37 AM
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Sex drive goes down with age. The idea that women have a sexual peak in their 30s is more for social reasons than physical ones. No idea if it's enough to be the reason for women's late sexual peak, but the supposed biological reasoning is that a woman's sex drive is increased by estrogen, in addition to testosterone. Estrogen actually goes up in your 20's and peaks around 30 (in both genders). (Testosterone peaks around 18 and goes down from there, which would explain why men's sex drives decre…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/19 04:32 PM
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Lmao no, all women definitely know this. To the point that society constantly shoves it down your throat "your value as a person is based entirely on being pretty and compliant". The whole "love yourself how you are!" thing is because some people thought it was kind of shitty that women feel like they're worthless if they aren't physically attractive to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/19 04:05 PM
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It's very obviously not actual advice - literally every woman knows this shit before they hit puberty. It's a "I want to insult women who do not conform to traditional standards of attractiveness and put them in their place". Yeah idk, somehow that pisses women off?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/19 03:56 PM
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Hm, probably that a lot of modern liberal men will treat you well and be all about egalitarianism when you're in your early 20's and "real adulthood" is some vague thing in future, but then they actually expect more traditional roles once living together and having kids and stuff is on the table. Basically that you can't actually "have it all" in a relationship. And that this is talked about as if this is some kind of unrealistic greed for women, despite that it's considered totally normal for a…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/19 12:33 PM
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Going to the gym is ridiculously easy and only requires willpower. Time-wise it's not really more of an investment than what girls put into makeup/hair/skincare/etc. Also some definitely do care if you're finicky and difficult about food. Like the other comments said, it ruins their image of the chill "cool girl" who can just casually eat whatever and is just "naturally like this, teehee".
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/19 09:30 AM
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Lol dude I was into lifting for a while (stopped because it was getting in the way of climbing), it's really not harder than any other exercise. Not that looking good is "hard" either, but plenty of guys get irritated about a girl being "high-maintenance" when she takes too long to get ready or orders a salad for dinner or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/19 08:39 AM
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those evil women, always looking for a beta provider of french fries
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/19 07:54 AM
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Gym rat stereotype = high maintenance, neurotic/vain, possibly on steroids. He goes to the gym with the main goal of looking good. A guy who just has an athletic hobby that isn't about looks is more appealing IMO, even if he ends up with a cyclist body and not a gym rat body. Although men kind of do the same thing - a lot of them want a girl who is a size 2 and has perfect skin but without any of the maintenance involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/19 12:02 PM
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A virgin is going to be just as underwhelmed as the slut with mediocre sex. Omg, this. The first guy I was with wasn't very good in bed, so I just kind of assumed sex was overrated or that women weren't supposed to enjoy it that much. I still never initiated and tried to find excuses to avoid sex with him. I can divide my past partners into "good in bed" (= I actively initiated sex with them on a regular basis) and "not good in bed" but I don't have like, a ranked list of them lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/19 09:51 AM
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Example? One that works in real life, not a quote from a Disney song taken out of context.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/19 09:42 AM
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Aladdin was helping Jasmine escape from a life as a sheltered princess set to be in an arranged marriage, that was imposed on her from the outside and she actively did not want. At no point does the story imply that Aladdin was attracted specifically to her innocence - "the world" there was the literal world outside of the palace, not the magical world of Aladdin's dick. Or are you awakening her to the pleasures of the flesh? Ewwww. This is not appealing phrasing either lol
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/19 09:20 AM
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Idk, second one sounds just as gross to me. Like if you've encountered a few of those types of guys, you know what he means when he says stuff like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/19 07:15 AM
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What else do you have going for you, aside from "not a train wreck"? Not to minimize that it probably took you a lot more effort than most people to get there, but "responsible adult with a routine" isn't a rare thing to find. There are girls who will go for the crazy-fun-no-future guy - it is fun and interesting to hang out with them. Probably the majority of them have either also grown into responsible adults, or are train wrecks themselves now. Or maybe you hit the wall and wasted your attrac…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/19 08:26 PM
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Men commit more crime in general. If they're doing romance scams, the larger target audience is women. (The article is about using the information from online dating for identity theft, for the people who apparently don't want to click a link.)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/19 08:07 PM
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Don't even need heels. Nope: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/all-about-sex/201612/the-uncanny-psychology-high-heels Men can't easily articulate why a woman who puts effort into those little things is more attractive, but they absolutely do respond to it. Women specifically notice another woman's heels or details of their makeup because they put enough effort into it themselves that they can pick it out. It's like how anyone can tell if a picture looks good, but a photographer will immedi…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/19 09:42 AM
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No, of course stuff like that happens! But in the sort of statistics where they just distinguish between "mutual" (like your self-defense against broken coffee cup girl) and "non-mutual" violence, women do apparently have more "non-mutual" violence. Either those statistics come from some bizarro world where men barely ever initiate violence against their partners, or male-initiated violence is more likely to look "mutual".
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/19 08:51 AM
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Sorry wait, how is that victim blaming? Obviously it's not the man's fault if a woman is violent towards him. I'm just confused about why "controlling" a violent person is something you'd ever want to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/19 07:49 AM
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No, that was exactly the point I was getting at. You can't differentiate between "violence where there's a clear aggressor but the victim fights back" and supposed "mutual violence" using those statistics. I am arguing that in the majority of DV cases, the aggressor is male but it appears "mutual" because women are more likely to fight back (due to the strength difference and that most women in violent relationships are afraid of their partners, while most men are not) Women also tend to be more…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/19 07:44 AM
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An issue with a lot of domestic violence statistics is that they ignore context and self-defense. Basically anyone who engages in any act of violence is equally guilty. Man beats the shit out of a woman and she punches back once? Both are offenders, no distinction made. Woman slaps a man across the face, and he walks away? Woman is the only offender. So I think male-initiated violence is more likely to be seen as "mutual" because women's self-defense counts as violence, whereas men rarely need t…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/19 09:08 PM
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It's legit a thing, men have weaker immune systems so the flu hits them harder. Same reason women have more autoimmune disease. The one annoying thing that some men do actually do, is that they expect to be waited on by their partner when they have with a cold, as if they are literally dying, and then don't return the favor.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/19 10:42 AM
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I agree with you, but I think both sides have the misconception that men with abusive tendencies are all charming and attractive and never struggled with dating. Most people who say "Keep trying, there's someone out there for you!" aren't intentionally trying to say "abusive men deserve relationships too", it's that they assume the kind of person who needs that advice is nice and harmless by default.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/19 10:51 AM
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Men just don't suddenly turn into rape monsters or kid punchers. I get that men should never hit women, but I'd really want to know what a woman said to a dude that got him to point where he's about to Spartan kick a woman across the room. Holy shit dude. You're that guy that got shot at by his ex, right? What did YOU do to provoke her?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/19 10:44 AM
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A guy in your circle is known to have feelings for a girl but she does not feel the same way about him. He woos her, buys her expensive stuff, dines at every major restaurant and leaves no stone unturned to show her that he loves her. But the girl simply does not reciprocate the love, Now the guy is someone everyone in your circle knows had feelings for this girl, Yeah so this is not something I'm jealous of. If a guy had stuff like this in his past, I don't expect or WANT him to do that for me.…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/19 06:57 PM
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I think they were referring to when a guy ghosts a girl, and she reacts crazily, it's because people emotionally respond pretty predictably to being ghosted. (just that some are a bit better at having the self-control to not blow up the other person's phone). Therefore they conclude "women are crazy". Maybe ghosting wasn't the best example, since it's become weirdly normal. But if you're doing things like intentionally playing push-pull games or trying to make her jealous with your "abundance me…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/19 02:29 PM
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You wrote a similar reply on the BPD thread. Are you aware that BPD, bipolar, and schizophrenia are not the same thing? Also, I feel like it's pretty well-acknowledged that girls growing up in bad home situations tend to date toxic/abusive men, but for some reason people don't talk about men doing the same thing very much. Do you think there's any chance you were attracted to a certain type of woman or missed glaring red flags because of that?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/19 12:08 PM
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Hrm, thinking about guys I've dated, high openness is the one I consistently find attractive. I've dated all over the place from the other traits. More agreeable is important in retrospect. I've dated both, and disagreeable guys are just so exhausting and difficult. Don't see the appeal anymore at all. Higher in conscientiousness than me is probably a good thing. I tend to gravitate towards guys who are just as low-conscientious as I am, assuming it will be fun to date someone else who is sponta…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/19 10:56 AM
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A 29-year-old virgin who is seriously talking about marriage after 3 months is not "as American as anyone else". This sub is absurdly racist, but you sound pretty naive about what marrying an immigrant from such a different culture is actually going to be like. There's going to be cultural issues, some about meeting her parents' expectations and some about her own insistence on doing things the way they're done back home (which she may honestly think she's not going to do right now, but it's goi…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/19 07:17 AM
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I meant narcissism as a trait that everyone has some amount of, not Narcissistic Personality Disorder. I agree it's annoying when people run around throwing Cluster B diagnoses at everyone, but I think it's a more useful way to look at it than just "these guys are weak and need to learn to be tough". The issue is that they're coping with that feeling of fragility by projecting a false image of themselves - "I'm a good person, if I act good then I will get what I deserve, I need to hide the parts…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/19 09:03 AM
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This is just my city slicker perspective, but most women don't want to be approached in random public places, period. I go to the grocery store to buy food, not to socialize. If I want to meet people, I'd go to a party or sign up for a hobby class or something like that, where it's totally normal to start conversations with people.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/19 01:15 PM
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Hrm, maybe I'd quickly check him out when he's not looking. But for your question "How can a guy more accurately read when it is an invitation and when it isnt?", a stranger avoiding eye contact is not inviting you to talk to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/19 12:41 PM
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"Sometimes we intentionally dont give eye contact because we're intimidated/shy (from being attracted to them) by a guy". This is like, if you're literally having a conversation with her and she alternates between nervously looking down and trying to sneak glances at you. This is NEVER the intention of random women on the street of a major city. They are avoiding all eye contact, seemingly staring into some specific spot on the street that does not contain a man’s eyes. You remember when you wer…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/19 12:21 PM
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Thanks for sharing that post, that is really interesting! I actually think that perfectly describes why a lot of people have such a bad reaction to "nice guys". That's a list of traits associated with covert narcissism, not what most people think of as being genuinely nice. I've never read the book in the post, so maybe it already covers this, but I wonder if phrasing it that way would help guys who struggle with this? Their problem isn't literally being too nice, it's being so obsessed with bei…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/19 11:27 AM
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Did anyone here actually look at the two articles? They're not the same situation with genders reversed. One is an open relationship that the husband consented to, the other is a woman with Alzheimer's who literally doesn't understand she's being cheated on. I think both situations are OK personally, but seriously you guys, stop being so intellectually dishonest and pretending this is entirely about gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/19 10:13 AM
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Indifferent I guess. I don't really think about guys being "below my league", there's just guys I'm interested in and guys I'm not. Things that are maybe annoying though: trying to find a good way to politely express that it's not mutual or exit the situation, when a guy doesn't pick up on that hint or ignores explicitly being told I'm not interested, or when I'm enjoying talking to a guy platonically and I realize he's only interested in hitting on me.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/19 10:31 PM
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"Be confident" doesn't really mean "think you're hot shit with no basis in reality" so much as "don't be insecure". A guy who is chill about his faults and OK with taking risks is more attractive, compared to the same guy who is ashamed about who he is and is too anxious to try things and fail.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/19 12:24 PM
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I'm not even sure he's being "concerned"? Shutting someone out and refusing to talk to them because they were upset is the opposite of being helpful. Either way, what I assumed this thread was going to be about and what I think you're getting at: there is a sort of manipulative "concern" that people of both genders do. Some people go so over-the-top self-flagellating about how horrible they feel for having hurt someone, that the conversation switches from being about why the hurt person is upset…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/19 01:17 PM
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Feminism is a social/political movement that's focuses on problems that affect women. I never see MRAs asking "why don't women work on these issues?", it's always "why don't feminists work on these issues?". Why is it always "feminists" in particular?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/19 09:50 PM
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domestic violence is a women's rights issue and that hitting a woman is worse than hitting a man because "men are stronger" 70% of female victims in one of their studies were "very frightened" in response to intimate partner violence from their partners, but 85% of male victims cited "no fear" the fact that there are homeless shelters specifically for women To prevent sexual assault. domestic violence shelters where men aren't allowed Because men try to track down the women who are escaping them…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/19 09:36 PM
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It's weird because I am getting mixed messages on this topic from various sources ... women are separate people with separate preferences? Is there any benefit to calling yourself a male feminist at this point? The main benefit to calling yourself a feminist is to tell other people that you support feminism? It's not a label that you just slap on to make yourself more or less attractive to women, it's a word that describes your beliefs. I like actual male feminists. I know the kind of guy the au…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/19 05:28 AM
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/r/GenderCriticalGuys /r/GCDebatesQT would be of interest to you
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/19 05:18 AM
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The typical courtship rituals/romantic gestures in our society are gendered. We grew up watching our parents and the media showing us that this is what romance looks like, and we want it as a result. If you're a man, and you're into a woman, you have things like "open the door" and "buy her flowers" as things you can do to express this. You probably want to because you like her. Likewise, as a woman, you want to know that he likes you and see him put effort into expressing it. The direct opposit…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/19 12:24 PM
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While the average age American teenagers have sex is 17, and has been for a long time, ???
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/19 02:11 PM
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"Listed as a mental disorder"? Uh lol no, did you read any of the link? This is a lot of TRP/incel talking points (higher completed suicide rates, lack of healthy outlets for masculine roles, unfair school system and prison sentencing, etc). What exactly is the problem here? A mainstream psychological organization agrees with you, so you're not counter-culture? Your ideas might be associated with a left-leaning discipline that also endorses feminism?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/19 12:32 PM
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Stop overthinking it and go on the date next week, then decide how you feel about him afterwards. Worst case scenario it's just an experience to learn from.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/19 09:59 AM
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The vast majority of people date. Most people marry. The average age for losing virginity is like 17-18. I agree there's some race/class effects in there, plus socially competent people tend to surround themselves with other socially competent people, but people who are completely romantically and sexually isolated into their 20's are the minority. If they think they're the typical cases, they're the ones in a bubble.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/19 09:06 AM
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I read the other comments and I am so confused about your relationship situation. You have a long-term girlfriend? Does she know you're seeing other women? Like, has she explicitly agreed? Not "well I assume she knows", which I suspect is the case given how you're not being very forthcoming with information here. Your oneitis was never requited. You were always an FWB to her. Oneitis is "focusing on only 1 girl", which is a completely healthy and normal thing to do in a committed LTR, and unheal…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/19 09:15 AM
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Do you agree or disagree with that? Do you think by not speaking out against misogyny it causes harm towards women? Silently not disagreeing is tacit agreement, or at least saying "your opinion is basically acceptable enough". Everyone is a dick without concern on the internet, but IRL people are very affected by social shaming. some people just don't do well with confrontation. these friends might stop being friends with him after he made those comments. it would be exhausting to police those s…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/19 09:04 AM
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God this is why FWBs are such messy bullshit. Date like a proper adult (you're 35 ffs) and you'll have better luck if you want an actual partner. "Oneitis" is only an issue when it's not requited. Yours wasn't. The nature of FWB relationships is that you can just pretend it is mutual and keep sleeping with them under that illusion and just drag out your heartache. Deal with it the same way you do with any rejection/breakup. Cut contact 100%. Be sad for a bit. Hang out with friends and do other a…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 07:03 PM
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She's written other things: http://www.shannonlell.com/featured-writing/ . Girl's got issues and pretty poor insight. Not that that's the worst thing in the world, but I don't want her own navel-gazing about her unhealthy preferences and need for validation for her looks (which she mentions in the article) being read as an advice column for men. Personally, a guy tried to grab my ass in public on a first date, and I flipped out at him and never saw him again. Do I not count as part of "feminists…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 01:51 PM
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Infatuation makes you really dumb. There's people overanalyzing it here but it basically comes down to that - if you ask an impartial friend to look at the situation, they're pretty much always capable of saying "Uh, dude, she's obviously just not that into you".
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 09:52 AM
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Nah, I'm just too righteous for my own good. A female friend sticking up for me if I froze would be nice too. You're just trying to goad me into saying I like benevolent sexism. Neveeeer :|
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/19 11:25 PM
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Yeah, I would definitely prefer it to starting a fight or making a big scene.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/19 11:08 PM
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Oh, yeah, good point. I was just thinking about in terms what action the guy could take, from the way the question was phrased. It would probably be better to do nothing and let the girl take care of it herself. I'd kind of want him to say something after a few seconds if I had a freeze response, out of a sense of justice against harassment, but not at the expense of anyone's safety.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/19 08:32 PM
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Telling him to fuck off is a good strategy if you're in a public place, which they were. Harassers bank on women being afraid to speak up - chances are he'll back off if he thinks it's going to draw attention to him. Depends on the situation though. I guess if he's a violent person and it's a particularly rowdy party, safety comes first and it's better to just slink away than cause a scene.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/19 08:09 PM
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then you end up with a large pool of people who are making demands without actually passing the qualifications to warrant those things Soo... there's a whole bunch of single women with too high standards? And? Why do you care? Not abusing the powers and privileges given, as well as owning up to abusing powers and privileges. Basically, being mature enough to handle new power and privileges. What power? The power to reject men?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/19 08:01 PM
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Chasing a career, not settling down in time then wondering where Chad went when it's too late. Pricing herself out of the market then blaming men for being 'intimidated' without actually putting any effort into learning what men prefer. I haven't seen this sort of behavior being the epidemic guys here claim it is, but whatever, I'll take your word it's happening in places that aren't my social circles for argument's sake. Why do you even care about some women who you don't even want to date bein…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/19 07:31 PM
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Laziest tomato rice: add tomato sauce from a jar to cooking water. Tomato juice and spices would probably work if you have something particular against chunks in your rice Furikake and/or soy sauce is good too
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/19 07:22 PM
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Yeah no that behavior just comes across as insecure and aggressive. Violence is OK if there's legitimate danger, but violence to Defend Your Honor (what) shows horrible judgment and lack of self-control. "Tell him to fuck off" was my first thought reading the title, apparently she agrees.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/19 07:18 PM
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A bit, yeah. Maybe not "turned off", I agree on finding it admirable when someone overcomes a background like that, but it's something I'm cautious about in a relationship. A lot of people are able to get their lives together wonderfully when things are going well, but then they slide into old patterns or copy their parent's behavior when life gets hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/19 11:19 PM
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Here's the thing, precedents are fine, they should be encouraged. Take our woman above who has previously had sex on the first date, but found she usually felt gross the next day, and so she stopped doing that. Does she need to force herself to keep having first date sex because of her past? But in my observation, the precedent is not set by time, but rather by the TYPE of guy. As in, a specific type of guy can always hit it, while another type of guy has to wait around 5 dates. So wait, whether…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/19 07:36 PM
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Do you run background checks or something? Or do you just go on the faulty assumption that all women are actually promiscuous and weed out the ones who don't put out on the first date just in case? What about the case of a woman who used to sleep with guys on the first date, but found it unfulfilling and eventually stopped? Is she obligated to have sex she doesn't want to for the rest of her time dating, because she set a precedent? Not trying to play the moral police here, just really don't get…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/19 02:51 PM
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Do you think that different people have different thresholds on when "self-control goes out the window"? If so, why would you intentionally select for women who immediately jump on a guy's dick against better judgment when she's attracted enough? That's how you get cheated on.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/19 01:44 PM
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It's been pointed out here before, but do you guys genuinely not get the impossible situation you're making here? You don't want to date girls who have slept with a lot of guys, and you also don't want to date girls who don't put out on the first date? The only way a woman can do both is to not go on very many first dates. But then she's a stuck up bitch with standards that are too high. What exactly do you want women to do in your ideal world?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/19 01:41 PM
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"Strategically" it signals what kind of person you are and what kind of relationship you want. Pay if you want a tradcon relationship. Go Dutch if you want a more egalitarian relationship. "Forget" your wallet and smirk if you want to play push-pull games with unstable clingy girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/19 02:08 PM
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Whoops, should have quoted the whole thing, the wording from that sentence was less clear. It's saying the exact opposite of what you're getting at, lol: Males were certainly found to be no more likely to discuss 'important' subjects such as politics, work, art, academic matters, etc. than women – except (and this was a striking difference) when women were present. On their own, men gossip, with only 0-5 per cent of conversation time devoted to non-social subjects such as work, politics, cultura…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 07:14 PM
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k who cries the most Women, but I'm not convinced this is an unhealthy way of dealing with emotions. who throws more temper tantrums, who is the more petty gender Can't find appropriate studies on this in either direction who's more likely to gossip Thirty-three percent of men indulge in mobile gossip every day or almost every day, compared with twenty-six percent of women. (unrelated but amusing: "Males were certainly found to be no more likely to discuss 'important' subjects such as politics, …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 03:40 PM
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This. Men lose their shit all the time, but we just don't consider angry men to be "emotional". There's research on it, ex: http://thescienceexplorer.com/humanity/angry-men-seen-powerful-women-emotional-study-finds
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 01:49 PM
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