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Discussionneuk_mijn_oogkas/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/18 09:06 AM
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Wouldn't surprise me to be honest if that were the case. I couldn't find a survey on marriage but I know it's the case with relationships and people continue to say females want that more than males.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/18 02:57 AM
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The only advantage of legal marriage is the health insurance since I would not have any without marriage. America—fuck yeah!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/18 02:55 AM
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Yeah, I'm one of those people who uses the words "male" and "female" without shame. You're however one of those people who complains about the word "female" but strangely not about the word "male" being used in the same way in the same post. If you're going to complain about a perfectly normal English word at least complain about both.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/18 07:54 PM
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Oh, one of those people. I mean my post also contains "males" but hey if there's one thing I noticed about people who object to that is that they always only complain about "females" with the justification that people supposedly "never" use "males" even if it's used in the very same post or article they just complained about people using "females" in.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/18 07:40 PM
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I mean it's not just males, also females. this should illustrate it well—females are just less obsessed with it but the body type definitely translates between sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/18 05:43 PM
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Yeah but that stil implies that females in general think those people are pretty looking but just thik there are other things too. In really they don't even think it's that pretty and think Daniel Radcliffe looks better. I mean everyone is different of course but most females do not like this square-jawline-rock-solid-abs thing; that's what males like. As far as an AI that measured responses goes it composed the ideal male face through the eyes of the average female; no personality was involved.…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/18 05:29 PM
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Good God, just become gay. I'm not male. So what. Don’t sleep with people my age, dad. It’s gross. Wouldn't surprise me if I'm younger than you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/18 04:55 PM
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I mean this is the main reason why I think the whole "it's evolutionary to like muscles" is wrong becuase these muscles re not heroic. That wholte "sixpack body builder look" aren't functional muscles and these people aren't even that much stronger and certainly not faster than the average Joe. If you look at the physique of Olympic athletes it doesn't much look like that because they are actually strong, fast, and functional. So I find it really unlikely that people are supposedly genetically p…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/18 04:31 PM
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Jesus Christ. Do you really need to invent something like this to hold on to this idea? This just shows how much emotional attachment there is to this idea. So when people say they are A) female, B) never have been attracted to another female and C) are stil screaming around Justin Bieber or really love Jack Sparrow then they're just lying about one of those three?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/18 02:56 PM
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Do people actually keep track of the number? I would have to count in my head and would probably miss some, I guess around 8-10?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/18 01:05 PM
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Even James Bond doesn't seem to enjoy a particularly large female following.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/18 11:22 AM
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No they don't—not by a long shot. I mean some do and some don't but most don't. There's a reason that all those actors and celebrities who are like that mostly have a huge male fandom and not a female one and that MCU's Thor is mostly loved by male fans and the popular character with females is Loki. In general when one of those characters really popular with females pops up it's often one of those Loki/Jack Sparrow like characters, somewhat feminine, funny, quirky and mischievous. I mean look a…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/18 11:20 AM
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Really? The "dyke-aesthetic" is quite quintessentially different from it isn't it?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/18 11:18 AM
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And bi and hetero. Males just like more masculine features on males than females do and this seems to be independent of sexual orientation. I think the major thing is "definition" as in males seem to prefer more defined body shapes; this can be muscles, breasts, jawlines, hips whereas females seem to prefer a flatter more organic body shape and this goes for both sexes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/18 11:00 AM
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Lol— The thing is that research continues to find that males overestimate how "masculine" the male preferences of females really are probably because they want it to be true because they derive identity from it. The truth of the matter is that Justin Bieber despite constantly being criticized by males for being too feminine commanded theatres of female screaming fangirls; I don't like Justin Bieber but it shows something. this image is often showed to illustrate the point. The truth of the matte…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/18 10:58 AM
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I think in both sexes this is more common than people admit and people usually use the "low libido" excuse because the truth of "I don't find you attractive" would send them crying. Basically at one point someone decided that you must automatically feel sexually attracted to anyone you love—I don't think that's true at all and how it works. I think plenty of people love people they aren't sexually attracted to and I think a large portion has sex with them anyone because "that's what you do" and …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/18 09:44 AM
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I mean apart from that sometimes you ask and someone just comes with an implausible and inconsistent story—are you then forced to believe it because you asked?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/18 09:14 AM
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Because everyone always says about every generation so we're left to assume from it that people during the 1200s were super friendly. I don't buy it; I think there's truth to that people are just friendlier and more helpful towards young and pretty people.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/18 07:42 AM
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Yeah they watched the video...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/18 08:46 PM
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Ehh, you exaggerate the comments, most just say "Okay, now let's hear the other side of the story"—that seems like a fine response more people should have. There are definitely some comments who seem to bring identity politics into it but most just want to hear the other side of the story.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/18 08:43 PM
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Someone on r/askreddit game with a really interesting thought once that when people say "people used to be so much nicer in the 70s; today's youth has no manners" are actally just saying "I'm no longer pretty and no experience what all the non-pretty people in the 70s also did"
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/18 07:16 PM
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Meh, I'm not a very romantic person I guess as you would have probably guessed—I don't realy care about all those Hollywood romance ideals. The way I see it romantic love is a mind-altering, addictive drug that should be used like any other: enjoy but use responsibly and don't get addicted.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/18 06:22 PM
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It dehumanizes them in the same way as every labourer is. When I go to the store the person who checks out at the counter is not a human but a labouring machine essentially; they are at that point inherently objectified for their services like all employees are; they are a resource. People seem to think that prostitution should be treated differently from that and I disagree. Like where I live prostitution is (famously) legal but all prostitutes must be self-employed in the legal sense. This is …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/18 05:49 PM
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Are you kidding me? "hypergamy" is a term that is at least 50 years old. Reading here it was coined in India in the 19th century. This just reeks of "I redefine a word I'm emotionally attached to until it means what I want to mean." If you're going to use a highly nonstandard definition of a word then clarify as much.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/18 04:49 PM
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You're making my point. What do you think they male escorts look like? Tall, with a defined jawline, strong? Yeah so, what makes that hypergamous? They're not out-earning them or being more successful now are they? Is your definition of "hypergamous" now "people like to sleep with people they find attractive" because that's not what "hypergamous" means; it means wanting to sleep with people who make more money and have more capital.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/18 04:30 PM
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Yes, asexuals, which is why I mentioned hetereosexual. Meaning attracted to opposite sex partners. Yeah and there are still people who are and not hypergamous or remotely interested. You do realize that rich as fuck female businessmen exist who hire male escorts, pay them for sex and don't care one bit about how much money they have because they will never see them again because they just want sex and aren't interested in a relationship or money because they have plenty of that on their own righ…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/18 04:26 PM
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For crying out loud people are born blind or with missing limbs okay. Let's assume for sake of argument that not being hypergamous is an evolutionary defect, so what? people are born with them every day. Apart from that this "pair bonding" shit is a recent cultural invention mostly inspired by property and inheritance. Hunter-gatherer humans were more bonoboistic which is exactly why cheating is common and for the people that don't cheat they would like to; they just restrain themselves because …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/18 04:13 PM
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Trolling has nothing to do with verbal abuse. Trolling is faking to have an extreme opinion like "the earth is flat" or "kill the gays" to get people angry and bait them into responding. Hardly a high crime.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/18 01:46 PM
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That seems to just be an inertial argument. Maybe that it was part of a personal relationship was the problem? This is basically saying: "if society ever moves to turn cleaning into a personal thing it should never change back to allow people to hire cleaners".
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/18 11:44 AM
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Would you be comfortable doing sex Yeah or dating someone who did it Yeah Do you think this increase is a good or bad thing? Will it positively or negatively affect relationships and society in the future? I want to see a society that takes the social aspect out of sex so yeah. I think it's good it's treated like a product.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/18 11:41 AM
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Notice how the females that try to procure female sex are also far less likely to shame it. It's almost like the people that benefit from it don't shame it and the people whom it brings detriment and competition do.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/18 11:37 AM
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Why not? You literally brought the market value of ova up compared to sperm?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/18 10:50 AM
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Maybe, maybe not—despite what people often like consent is a vague thing especially in the legal sense; the barriers are different with strangers and people you've known for a while and different with people with positions of power. There is no hard simple algorithm that determines valid consent in a legal court case in the end. There are two polar extremes which are obvious which are verbal "yes" and verbal "no" but in between that lies a muddy land. If you wanna cover your legal arse completel…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/18 10:43 AM
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What does this have to do with reproduction and sexuality? We're talking about the price of ova vs sperm on the market. It has nothing to do with reproduction and sexuality. Genetic diversity? what are you even talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/18 10:25 AM
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Those statistics can never be reliable though because it's just the amount that iswiling to admit to researchers in rpivate that they did.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/18 10:03 AM
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That has absolutely nothing to do with the market price for sperm and ova. You realize those things aren't just used for reproduction but also just research on them right? Ova are more expensive to mine compared to sperm hence they are more valuabe; it's that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/18 10:01 AM
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Everything is as valuable as the price the market is wiling to pay for it. The reason ova are more valuable than a bit of sperm is because removing ova takes a costly and risky procedure while anyone can just jack of and cough up some sperm.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/18 09:49 AM
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I've never seen it that I can tell and I've never done it; I'm not in general in the business of strategically trying to "find a man" and this seems to be a very weird strategy at that and it'll probably end up with you "finding a man" that I can't stand. I think the same thing of them as I think of anyone who employs strategy to alter themselves to achieve this goal: good luck with the point when you can no longer bring it up to wear the mask and see what they think of the real you. (defined as…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/18 08:33 AM
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I think the reasoning is valid and there should also be an egg donor from the best DNA. If you can afford it why would you not want the best for your children? Why settle with your own inferior DNA when there is superior DNA out there?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/18 08:02 AM
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What does marriage have to do with sex? Marriage is about money and property—obviously I want to marry someone who has the most of that and then immediately get a divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/18 07:59 AM
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Well I have no daughter and I'm trying to cut down on sleeping with girls to be honest—I find the lack of penis to be a bit of an inferiority. It's just stupid how much people feel like they have a right to control other people's sex life; if it's not the church telling you you can't have sex with people fo your own sex it's your parents telling you you need to wait till marriage and now it's apparently also your children who are trying to act as your gatekeeper.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/18 07:46 AM
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I make it a habit and point to have strict separate finances of anyone I interact with even if I live with them. I'm consequently generally not aware of the income of people I know so I really don't know. If they constantly flaunt they give to charity that would be annoying though; if they bitch at people for not giving enough to charity that'd be fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/18 08:40 PM
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Maybe not but when something only appears recently in culture and the explanation is so far-fetched it's unlikely that it has an evolutionary explanation.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/18 12:14 PM
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If you're bothered by it that's your own problem. Chidlren who try to control their parents sex life are just as creepy as parents who try to control their children's sex life.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/18 11:30 AM
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The thing is more that people often look to evolutionary explanations to justify cultural norms that are like 150 years old and were never seen before that and it's all so vague and muddy that you can always find something plausible to back it up. Like the whole "red lipstick is to signify fertility because it resembles the bright red butt of baboons" ignoring that humans are not baboons, that humans do not have butts that grow red with fertility, that bright red lipstick is just a random fashio…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/18 11:26 AM
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I think the thing is that repulsion is more universal than attraction. There are a lot of things which like 99% of people find repulsive but you're going to be hard pressed to find something more than 60% find attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/18 10:59 AM
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The artice doesn't work here but I feel it's pretty moralistic in that the choice of lie probably plays a factor. It lied about having a porn agency—people lie about other things like how much money they make or their sport achievements all the time to make themselves more attractive ore ven their age but that's common; porn agency is vulgar so the emotions get stirred up.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/18 10:28 AM
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Most of the people I've had long sexual relationships with I would not consider aesthetically pleasing but I consider aesthetic human beings rare and in general something that almost only seems to be found on the internet probalby heavily photoshopped and even then the average house cat looks better to be honest. Human beings just aren't that aesthetic compared to some other animals or pants or I don't know works of art which were artificially created to be as aesthetic as possible—I don't get t…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/18 09:07 AM
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Unless you're really disfigured anyone of whatever sex can if you're wiling to go ith very unattractive people, bother people and what not. Like seriously if you ask 2000 people at least three of those are going to say "yes"; you're going of course get a lot of angry and offended responses but yeah unless you're really ugly if you try hard enough you will. There is also no rule it has to be from the opposite sex; from what I hear grindr is an incredibly easy score.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/18 08:54 AM
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Why would I want to be someone who missed out on fun? Unless of course that fun bankrupted me.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/18 06:24 AM
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I don't think there is a particularly deeper reason to it than "it's currently in fashion" It's not like red lipstick is a constant throughout human culture the same way "symmetric faces" is; it's as much arbitrary fashion as "baggy jeans"; the expantions are entirely cultural and not biological.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/18 09:36 PM
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A tigon or a liger which are usually infertile. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tigon https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liger
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/18 02:41 PM
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That whole "lipstick indicates heat" hypothesis is honestly really sketchy for multiple reasons: human females have no heat period and do not just use lipstick when they are fertile and don't even know their own ovulation lipstick is very cultural with most cultures having never used it human males historically also used red lipstick human genitals don't even colour red to indicate fertility and humans show no outward signs of ovulation I find this hypothesis to be very implausible.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/18 10:01 AM
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You often see that thing of "girls want a relationship" but even there it's only relative to how much they want sex. Apparently females are in the end stil happier single than males and less interested in finding a mate in general. https://www.iflscience.com/editors-blog/women-are-happier-single-as-being-in-a-relationship-means-more-work-/ THere's a reason that even on non-hookup dating sites like OKC the majority of members are still male.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/18 09:46 AM
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Turtles aren't really a species with large selection going on. Same with say cats; when a female cat is in heat it will accept pretty much any male cat. This is common with solitary animals since there is no guarantee then the next one arrives. Heavy selection is generally more common when species' members more frequently encounter one another. Consequently male and female cats pretty much like identical and male cats don't have these ornaments. Tigers and lions are probably the biggest example …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/18 09:44 AM
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It's not a paradox because unlike those species we don't typically do a single parent system. But it is also the case in pair-bonded animals like peacocks and many other birds; they raise their offspring together but it is the male that advertises the genes and the female that selects and approaches. Which seems to just in general be the most effective way. It doesn't make much sense for the selector to also be the one to advertise the genes. If one of both will basically breed with anything bec…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/18 09:30 AM
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That's as far as I know a misconception. Paternity testing is not outlawed in France; someone as in the child just can't be compelled to cooperate against their will and has no obligation to provide DNA and France's privacy laws mean you can't use someone's DNA for testing outside of their permission. However an entirely unrelated thing in France and many European countries is that biological reltionship doesn't play much of a factor in determining responsibilities. The test doesn't do much to b…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/18 08:41 AM
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Do you have children right now?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/18 08:37 AM
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With no evidence that these persons are female except "only a female would say that". At that point you have your classic self-fulfilling prophecy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/18 08:35 AM
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Apparently not because the person you reply to is infertile. All that biology goes out of the window with infertile people.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/18 08:34 AM
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Yeah, that's kind of something that is caused by interacting and holding something in your hand, who would have thought that you bond better with a baby in your hands than something that looks like a potato than a human being growing inside of you?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/18 08:31 AM
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As if males aren't adopting. I mean that's basically your most realistic option to become a single parent by choice as a male because surrogates are hard to find. And surprise surprise, many males do it; they adopt as a single parent because they want to be a parent and love that child. Adoptive parents probably love their children more in practice; when you're adopted you know you were a wanted child that wasn't an accident and just kept but the conscious decision of someone who really wanted t…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/18 08:29 AM
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This is such sketchy logic; until it happened to you you don't know what it's like male or female; the persons who never had it happen to them whatever their sex are on equal footing here as are the persons who had it happen to them. Some people care about biological relationship and others don't. I agree with OP's spouse in this case though; obviously infidelity is the fault of the spouse and you can hate the spouse all you want but to suddenly no longer love a child you've known for 14 years b…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/18 08:27 AM
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Nothing—based on exactly "not all females give birth". I you're going to make it about giving birth then don't give those advantages categorically to females but to people who give birth. Like my logic is thus: I was tlaking to someone on reddit about the Finnish conscription system; that person argued that it was fair because females already give birth: my problem is that conscription is an obligation for males whereas giving birth is voluntary for females. I said I could see the point if you s…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/18 05:51 AM
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I'm fucking people without a penis more often than not; I can handle small; stil better than nothing—strangely enough a lot of people find this very simple logic to be highly unusual and think that apparently a small penis is bad but no penis is totally fine. I've really seen a lot of people on the internet who say they wouldn't have sex with someone with a micropenis but are very much interested in having sex with people with no penis at all. I can see the advantage obviously if the "no penis" …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/18 05:43 AM
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Where "it's meaningful" is a poetic way to say "they care about the label". People talk about this "signs of commitment' and 'big step' but in the end with unilateral no-fault divorce the truth is that it's none of that—people get married for the most part for some simple reason: they're emotionally attached to the label and they can't use the label without government registration so they register with the government to get to use it and then they can call themselves married and the word is what…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/18 05:38 AM
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Two seasons: They earn less money from the person they are getting married to and are unethical They like the label
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/18 05:35 AM
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It's possible but I doubt it; the entire incel community is about admitting normal shame about being undesirable. They call themselves "involuntarily celibate" for a reason; it's a community of "We are so ugly and undesirable, no one wants us"
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/18 04:30 PM
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Do you not realize that females are complimentary to males in all species of life? Ehh, yeah except the vast majority of species of life that have no sexes to begin with? Regardless I don't see how that's relevant. You just said that males are perfect for females but your post is criticizing how males treat females; how can they be perfect if they treat them wrongly? What definition of "perfect" are using here anyway because I think you're just using the word wrongly. In general when something i…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/18 04:18 PM
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I'm a guy so I wrote from a guy's perspective, but the same thing can be said in a reversed perspective: Males are perfect for females too. No your entire post is a criticism of all the flaws males supposedly have; you can't have it both ways. If all the criticism you leveled is true then males are in no way "perfect" for females. What the nature produces is perfect the way they are (unless its diseased or anything like that). Okay so given that almost everyone has at least some illness then mos…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/18 03:59 PM
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Compared to every other developed nation. US and UK by far rank the lowest in social mobility; the difference is that in the UK people seem to know this and realize their country is one of massive classicism where those born poor will die poor but the US has deluded itself it's some weird "land of opportunity" and that they think that is probably the reason why it hasn't followed suit with the rest of the world implementing various measures like free higher education to improve social mobility.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/18 03:18 PM
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That is completely false; in most species when two opposite sex members meet and they're in heat they will mate with no selection whtsoever. A female cat will accept any male cat ever when in heat. Being alive without having been eaten prior is enough proof of good genes.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/18 02:04 PM
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Cheating takes your time, potential affection and sometimes resources away from your partner, and when you have sex with someone else it runs the risk of the physical intimacy breeding emotional intimacy and causing distance between you and your partner. Yet people are very okay with the same time being spent on other things. What does it matter to you if the same time is spent taking a walk in the park alone or making out with someone on the street? In both what you notice in time lost is the s…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/18 11:58 AM
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What makes you assume that anyone I know can't have sex with anyone they want? I have no interesting in controlling my fellow man's sex life. I agree with you that the people who fly those arguments whist not allowing people to have sex with others are hypocrites—I just happen to not be one of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/18 11:57 AM
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One, it takes two to tango. I don't know why you automatically assume there's a legion of "fatties" out there just wanting for incels to offer them relationships. Does it matter if there is? My point is that most of them said they wouldn't if they could. They're just hypocrite for accusing people of being shallow for not wanting to sleep with them because they're ugly whilst they're doing the same thing. Two and continuing from one, people are not attracted to their looksmatch. People are attrac…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/18 11:48 AM
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But strangely males are not perfect for females and need change? It's also an awfully collectivist statement; since you're so on about nature; you do know that there are people who are born impotent, infertile, whatever right?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/18 11:33 AM
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It might be a problem but it's not someone's fault either.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/18 11:31 AM
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I remember reading a thread on some incel forum where the overwhelming majority of them agreed that they would never have sex with a fatty. So basically they consider themselves bottom 5% or something and unloved because of that but they desire something higher than bottom 5% themselves and don't take bottom 5% when it comes to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/18 11:31 AM
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Almost everyone "settles" not just in mates but in houses, electronic appliances, food. You get what you can but there is always a better choice out there you can't afford with your budget.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/18 11:29 AM
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The only way you get treated like the women they concocted is if you are attractive and young This isn't wrong I feel; you also probably need to be white or East-Asian to get it. But conversely the same thing does apply to a lot of feminists shticks where you kind of feel "this is a problem that only affects white and East-Asian females. I kind of feel that if you're not young, pretty, and white/East-Asian you're not going to get slut-shamed all that much; people only care about the "value" of f…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/18 09:40 AM
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It's not wrong but it's also deceptive. I feel there is in general a sexist bias against the competence of females with a significant portion but there is also a portion who for sake of diversity numbers will hire the most incompetent minorities just to hire minorities. So while with like 60-80% of companies you are disadvantaged over it there's like 15-20% who will hire you no matter how incompetent you are as long as you're one of the minorities they seek and no one else also fills that spot. …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/18 09:38 AM
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There are a lot of people in the west who are born in greater poverty than the average in many developing nations. This is especially common in the US and UK here social mobility is super low and class divided is high and a small elite controls the vast capital that elevate those countries to "developed nation". Both countries on paper have an impressive GPD per capita but that's the average of the nation of which a disproportionately large sum goes to the top 1% leaving the rest of the country …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/18 09:32 AM
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I don't live in any of those countries where "the manosphere" is active. (read: mostly just the United States because it's uniquely a country with enough money and a standard of living for people to go blogging but backwards religion and gender roles that are more often found in a developing nation than a developed one) I live in a place with female conscription where 145/150 members of parliament voted in favour of it; I live in a place where no one wil hold anyone's door open over their gender…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/18 09:30 AM
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The manosphere seems to think that women get rich or at least live very comfortably off child support and alimony. This is just plain wrong. Well, it isn't; that change that the current system for it is—whilst gender neutrally worded in law—based on ridiculous, archaic gender expectations. Marriage legally in almost all places is financially to the benefit of the party with less assets and to the detriment of the party with more assets. This is really written based on the gender role that males …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/18 05:07 AM
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To be fair they are not comparable to horoscopes either. I mean horoscopes is basically shit that tells you "You are like this and now is the right time to go into investment banking because you were born on this day of the year andif you were born 5 days later you would be completely different and now would be the right time to get a new haircut instead." That is some obscene level of bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 07:17 PM
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Then I'm not sure why you're answering OP's question which clearly asks for a value judgement. The question is clearly not written to ask "how common do you think female-led relationships are?" but "do you have a problem with them or not"; evidently you don't really care about uncommon things which is something else entirely. And I guess because murderers are an irrelevant statistical outlier you have no value judgement on the act of murder either?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 03:24 PM
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It's pretty clear how the question is asked that OP just wants to know what people think of it when it happens and what their value-judgement is but the top level poster reacted in a way that so transparently indicated "relationships are almost always male dominated; this belief is important to me for whatever reason and someone comes with a counter example; quick! I must point out that a mere single counter-example does not invalidate the belief that it is the natural order that relationships a…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 01:06 PM
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Why would it be threatened by a tiny minority of weirdos? Because in a question that didn't remotely ask whether it was common or not only for one's opinion of it they seemed to immediately rush to defend its nigh-universality as if feeling threatened by the idea that it isn't universal.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 12:46 PM
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One assumes OP is asking about your value judgement of it—not trying for you to back up a universalist worldview you seem to feel is threatened by the mere existence of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 11:19 AM
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Netherlands
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 07:33 AM
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People don't "verbally express" fandom. If females loved these muscular masculine figures so much then why are things like Rambo or every Tom Cruise film mostly enjoying a male audience? Why is the male lead in all those chick flicks totally unlike that? They do more than not express their disapproval; they express their approval more often than not.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/18 06:28 PM
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This whole idea that females re attracted to either "alpha personality" or "muscles" is something males largely invented to protect their sense of gender identity. There seems to be considerably more pressure internally amongst males to be what they consider "msculine" than from females who seem to care far less. They're right when they see that when they market males to males it's a hypermasculine power fantasy and when they market them to females you tend to get something considerably softer. …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/18 02:51 PM
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"The west" is "The United States" here right? I'm pretty sure I live in the west and my prime minister is unwed, most likely a virgin and asexual and no one seems to care or make that an issue—I have never experienced any pressure to get married; my parents weren't married nad neither were their parents. One of my grandparents died 5 years back; they lived together with the other one in one house since the latter was 20 and grew old together and they never got married.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/18 06:10 AM
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Where I live (Netherlands) the system is thus: There three different leaves which a lot of counties I feel wrongly compress into one: there is pregnancy leave, labour leave and parental leave. You get the first during the last two moths of pregnancy I believe; the second one if you actually want in labour and the third one if you became a new legal parent. Unsurprisingly you don't get the third one if you gave up for abortion but you do get it when you abort. Obviously the first two can only hap…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/18 04:23 AM
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Well I don't see how being female automatically makes you feminist; I think that's a great simplification. I don't live in the US but I think the single most important change that country needs is actual proportional democracy. A parliamentary system similar to how Germany managed to combined federalism with proportional democracy. The two-party state is the single biggest problem the US has politically and a lot of other problems will be solved from that. It turns out that if you're female that…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/18 04:12 AM
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It doesn't say anything about "our" expectations. First off it's a plurality election. There are a total of 16 types so in theory 6.26% of the votes is enough to win "sexiest" But hey it's 54 total votes it seems in a poll and 12 voted for ESTP; let's just ignore the enormous sample size problems here. That's 22.2% only—here you got your problem with plurality elections. I remember a line from Boston Legal where Shirley says something like "But your entire district voted for Hilary" and the repl…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/18 03:11 AM
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Yeah that shit is ridiculous; your spouse can come home at any day having gotten drunk and endebted themselves someone and they will go after your assets too; how is that remotely reasonable? In a lot of jurisdictions you're even responsible if your spouse brings hidden debts into the marriage you weren't aware off though in some that is grounds for annulment. All the reasonable obligations of marriage can already be negotiated by a cohibational contract. The fucked up thing though is that some …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/18 02:46 AM
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Mmm yeah there's a lot more than healthcare $$ that you'll need if something bad happens to you. Hmmmhmm, and you're saying that that should be a privilege only for people who are sexually desirable enough to obtain a mate if it's oh so essential? If you don't want to get married then don't. Buhbye! As a matter of fact I won't but that doesn't defeat the argument that marriage is a ridiculous construct legally and the only reason it exists today is because it was based on the old idea that femal…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/18 03:37 PM
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It's insurance, dude. Yeah, it's insurance that someone else is legally trapped to solve your gambling debts against their will. If you want that kind of insurance you'e highly unethical to want a legal safety net that someone else is forced to sell their assets to pay of your traffic fines and gambling debts. You must be a guy - only guys post crap like you on this site. No, I happen to be female; what is this nonsense? Do you know you're not immune to terrible accidents and diseases? What if y…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/18 03:24 PM
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This is about as silly as saying "marital rape or - murder should not be a crime because it can be avoided by properly vetting people" Yeah, it can; that doesn't change that it's just ridiculous from the start to make one adult responsible for the gambling bets or speeding tickets of another. The thing is that you have to ask yourself why you would want joint responsibility for financial liabilities? The only reason someone would actually want that if they're the irresponsible one willing to leg…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/18 03:12 PM
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It is super easy to break, especially for the party with less assets going into it. There are a lot of marriage topics lately and I'll say the same thing again: marriage is an absoutely stupid legal construct that is baffling and defies reason that people enter into only because they care about the label; they do not care about the actual legal change and if they actually read it they would find it mortifying what it is actually is; they care about the label; about being able to call themselves …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/18 02:08 PM
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Well tht's one of the reasons I'm opposed to marriage. How marriage works is that it's financially to the advantage of whoever of both has less assets and to the disadvantage of whoever has more. And there is no right outcome here: if I have fewer assets I feel like a parasite; if I have more assets I feel loved for my assets alone. Hence I prefer strictly separated finances. When I lived together it was clear who owned what. Rent was joint but every single object in the house had a clear owner;…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/18 05:53 AM
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You can just do that in a contract. Where I live marriage is becoming less and less popular and seen as something religious people do; the secular people tend to use what is called a cohabitational contract which is far more flexible as it's just a contract and has no special sanction in the law; it's a contract like any other about finances, possession, inheritance. Cohabitational contracts between three or more persons have already been executed and upheld in court so there's also that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/18 05:38 AM
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Fuck marriage, my view on marriage is very wel outlined here. Marriage is people getting into an absolutely ridiculous legal construct that should never exist (beng responsible for each other's gambling debts and traffic fines? what nonsense is that?) simply because they care about the label and like to call themselves "married". I don't care about labels; I don't care about whether someone calls me "wife" or not or "girlfriend" or not and anyone who does care about such labels or what they "pre…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/18 05:36 AM
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So don't get married then. 'so don't do it' is basically the argument people have at criticism on a concept when there's no other argument left. The reason marriage is important to people is that it has real consequences and represents a way to really say that you want to build a life with someone, come what may. If you don't want that don't get married. No one is forcing you. No, the reason people get married is because they care about the label. Like I said if the exact same legal thing was ju…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/18 02:54 PM
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And if it only worked like that then it would be enforcible via standard contract laws. That is quid pro quo. There is no need for marriage to exist; all the reasonable parts of it can already be enforced via standard contract law. If you make an agreement of "I will abandon my career and become your homemaker but in exchange you will agree to support me financially for at least N years" is quid pro quo and I see no reason why it can't be enforced in a court of law. But marriage goes way beyond …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/18 02:29 PM
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Income can go up or down. The best protection is to not get married. Marriage is a ridiculous concept when you analyse what it actually means legally that people continue to get involved in simply because they have an emotional attachment to the word "married" and think the label is important and don't feel complete unless they can refer to someone as their spouse. If the exact same legal thing was not called "marriage" but "civil financial co-liability" or something like that no one would opt i…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/18 07:42 AM
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Yes, unless I somehow manage to encounter someone whose relationship with me is basically my calling upon that person's favours over and over again I really see no benefit to altruism in any form of social interaction since I'm not really one to collect upon it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/18 04:02 AM
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I'm not specifically talking about platonic or non-platonic I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/18 03:59 AM
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I honestly find neither looks nor personality to matter a great deal. Some of my friends are nice and altruistic people; others are selfish arseholes; what mostly matters to me is that I find spending time with them entertaining enough to not do something else. In the end people being nice and altruistic is only a benefit if you're calling upon favours a lot and I'm someone who refuses help unless there's no other way so it doesn't matter much to me how nice people are. Looks aren't that importa…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/18 03:51 AM
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Doesn't come close to an actual job. There are people who have a 9/17 job where they do comparable shit with 20 senile 80 year old incontinent people who can't remember their own name for meagre pay. There's a reason that nannies aren't exactly the top of the pay grade and that it's unschooled labour.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/18 02:38 AM
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I mean of course it's not selfish. Like wtf are you kidding me? I'm sorry but staying at home and doing some cleaning and child rearing is a very lazy job compared to a 9/17 job and when the children leave the nest it is absolutely a piece of cake. The reason I think females should work is not in the interest of females: it's a "get of your arse and provide your own living" mentality. It's the same reason I hold disdain for rich trust-fund kids who never had to lift a finger. Yeah "alignment" of…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/18 02:33 AM
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It's not a gender thing; it's a relationship thing. But I notice that for whatever reason people often use random gendered terms as a substitute for "love interest" Rihanna's not talking about males in general like uncles or store attendants or whatever; Rihanna's talking about males they're romantically entwined with. Why on earth people choose to use words like "girl" or "man" or whatever to mean "lover" or "romantic interest" I have no idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/18 02:35 PM
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May require it for effective leadership but let's be honest; the people that tend to find themselves in leadership positions often lack it. The problem is that good leaders seldom want to become leaders; people that put themselves up for leadership are typically very bad at it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/18 01:26 PM
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Because I said 6 year old? Male: 6 months to 9 years - Less than 7-20 Female: 6 months to 9 years 6 - Less than 7-20 If you read the source you'd find that males have more testosterone in the womb but that this drops of to a level identical to that of females shortly after birth.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/18 01:11 PM
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https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/323085.php http://www.scielo.br/scielo.php?pid=S1517-86922005000400001&script=sci_arttext&tlng=en
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/18 01:03 PM
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I'm indifferent and don't really share this obsession about people's private lives; male or female: it's not my business how diverse your sexual history has been.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/18 12:59 PM
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No idea, how do you test that? It could be that they are by nature and that males have been socialized at that point already to be more so. Socialization really talks hold early. Like a lot of things which obviously are not genetic and purely hormone related like the colour pink and skirts have already taken hold at the age of 6 where females seem to display a preference for pink and males an aversion and that is surely socialized.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/18 07:48 AM
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And then there's testosterone. Can you socialize a man not to be competitive? Did you know that the sex hormone balance of humans before puberty is actually not divergent? a 6 year old female has as much testosterone as a 6 year old male and in fact there is also no physical strength difference but in a lot of cultures children are taught that boys are stronger and parents seem to believe it whilst it's not true before puberty.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/18 07:41 AM
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It's a term that has gotten tainted; those people often refer to themselves as nice guy. I remember being like 20 years old and describing my sibling as the quintessential "nice guy" trope from cinema. This was before the term got tainted and it was in a positive light. My (male) sibling had a lot of female friends and was very much there for thm and their problems and had no real ambition or sexual feelings for any of them it seems. They weren't at all bitter about the idea that those friends h…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/18 05:55 AM
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Unless you that for some reason femle-female relationships are overrepresented with rich people and male-male underrepresented this thesis just mathematically has to be false. If females never "dated down" but males did then simply put females would run out of males of their own level since some of the males at their level are taken by lower females so the only way for them to get out of tht would be as said to date other rich females. A lot of these things people say just mathematically don't m…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/18 12:51 PM
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Without a definition of it this question is useless and everyone who answers it without first defining wht they mean with "woke" is bad and should feel bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/18 06:52 AM
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Yes, it is sexualized. I've often been critical about how sexualized female "formal ware" really is with how much skin it shows and how tight it is to emphazies the almightly feminine curves. It's actually kind of funny how all this doesn't exist at the lowest of the low: if you look at say absolute dirt jobs like McDonalds or garbage services the uniforms are unisex, practical, and non-sexualized but all the prestige jobs are rife with sexism and oversexualization. Upper class culture is actual…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/18 05:52 AM
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I'm indifferent and don't really care, neither are things I would really think about in any way or would bother me.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/18 05:56 AM
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Because they've been told it works and in some cultures it does. From what I hear if you're in Spain not playing hard to get is a very bad way of getting laid. If you don't play hard to get people just turn around.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/18 11:53 PM
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That's something entire different and unrelated though; that's just gender roles and people being taught gender asymmetries and that they should sit back rather than play their own part.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/18 11:04 PM
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I personally would not spend time with my personal subjective 80th percentile, not with my 90th, not with my 95th and probably higher. I'm certainly not pretty and have many personality flaws. A lot of people would say I "should" love my standards but I feel this is from the assumption that I'm desperate or something; I'm fine being alone and no human social interaction is preferable to unpleasant human social interaction of course. I'd rather sit at home, play videogames, draw some, aste time o…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/18 11:03 PM
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No it will make them a hot person with a bad personality. That you choose to refer to personalities as "pretty" and "ugly" and claim a person is "ugly" for having a bad personality kind of shows how much appearance clearly matters to you if you choose to use that as your central terminology.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/18 08:37 PM
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Oh it's feminist because we now have a skimpy female superhero in a bathing suit that has super powers. That makes it feminist? No Wonder Woman was just a repetition of everything bad and criticized but now a female character has top billing: female superhero with incredibly skimpy clothing, high heels, lots of makeup, blabalbala every female character ever has a (male) lover. Note how in the MCU and DCEU about 90% of female characters has a male lover but like only 10% of male characters have a…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/18 07:56 PM
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OP basically seems to feel that "regret rape" is most often/always caused by finding out later someone is "low value".
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/18 11:54 AM
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American "proms" are pretty stupid gender-roly things and the whole election shit is just silly. Where I live some schools do this "gala" thing, certainly not all but it's a party sometimes held by the school; there is no expectation to have a "date", no dress code and no elections. If you ask me American life in general seems to be extremely presumptuous onto children: not just about sexual orientations but parents often give their children life advice seemingly from a very early age that plant…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/18 10:53 AM
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There exists a "mental disorder" called schizoid personality disorder which is basically a fancy word for "socially really indifferent people who don't care about social company or what people think of them" and it's as you might imagine pretty controversial as a diagnosis because these people otherwise lead their lives and are happy. But some psychiatrists argue it is a dissability because people with it score lower on the usual metrics that define disabilities as in because they score lower in…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/18 10:09 AM
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Well what is your value system? Is it just how much money people have? How does one define someone's "value" in this system? Value is what the free market is willing to pay for it and people aren't sold on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/18 10:05 AM
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What is "high value"? When I have sex with someone that means there was nothig other than that at the time I could do that I found worth doing more, like with nay other thing I do. That's the value that person has to me. Does "high value" just mean they have a lot of money? What do I care unless they offer me to pay me for sex. Edit: Rading the thread it does just seem to mean a well paying job? Well in that case everyone I ever had sex with was a secondary school or university student or a part…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/18 10:03 AM
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That is why I think they're cold the wrong way. Dutch people are actually cold, including to their friends; Finns are just shy; that's different.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/18 08:54 AM
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No some fought to be, most of those love it. Some never fought to be and most of those now hate it. I don't subscribe to the philosophy of the person you're replying to that most of them fought for this and I think it was only a small group but this whole "a group can be hypocrite" mentality where some members of a group are basically hypocrite for not agreeing with other members of it are stupid. I have always fought to be "treated like a man" because it's in the word itself. Male is the defaul…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/18 07:43 AM
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Some have been fighting for it but honestly I'm not impressed with the overall numbers. Most seem to be very accepting of it. A thing I find particular is how Wonder Woman was called "feminist" for nothing but top billing of a female character; WW still weirdly wears high heels and an oddly revealing piece of "armour" as a superhero and this didn't seem to piss many of the people off who heralded it as feminist. The film is a female power fantasy targeting a specific but common breed where "powe…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/18 07:38 AM
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"used to" implies it's not common now. It's absolutely common in a lot of fields even to this day in many places. There was a big UK court case about it a while back that ruled it can continue to be required.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/18 07:31 AM
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I am Dutch—there are few cultures colder than Dutch culture and I think this culture is not cold enough. Finnish culture is colder but I think in the wrong way though. Also Finnish definition of personal space
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/18 06:49 AM
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It should be noted that you exploit my sentence structure to quote out of context. I said "if you ever had a single steady sexual partner"; in that context it means "more than one in your life" but how you quote it presents it as "only one at a time".
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/18 06:33 AM
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Yeah, I keep forgetting you either never want to have sex with a specific person or at every single waking and sleeping moment of your life—silly me. If you ever had a single steady sexual partner in your life you'd have known that the same person who happily has sex with you one moment is't in the mood the next.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/18 06:01 AM
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It's with almost all fears. What people are afraid of is not shaped by real life but by media for the most part. People have a habit of being the most afraid of things that statistically are very unlikely to hit them. Not just fears but a lot of things people believe are based more on media than on reality, especially things that aren't very common.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/18 05:04 AM
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Are they so scared of martial rape? I think the paradox is that they are mostly scared of stranger rape whilst they are far more likely to get raped by a spouse, friend, or relative than a stranger.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/18 04:43 AM
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It's not just "princess and low status"; it's 50% of people. Mathematically speaking only 50% of people at max can wed someone of higher status than they if marriage is a two-man binding.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/18 01:07 AM
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If it works like that then simple maths stops this theory: we can't all mate with people higher than ourselves on the social status ladder; that obviously makes no sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 10:06 PM
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Clubs are private businesses and can refuse entrance/service to anyone as long as it's not illegal discrimination (race etc.) And if clubs would have different clothing standards for different races it would have been shut down 10 years back; in theory on paper sex is as much a protected class in most places as race; in practice it's clear it's a lot of talk but no show. It's really no different than a "no shirt, no shoes, no service" sign you might see at a fast food place. It's different in on…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 08:44 PM
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Whatever rules an employer has: I think the single most important requirement is that it should be the same for all employees. I can't fathom how in 2018 developed nations still haven't outlawed sex-segregated workspace regulations. In most of them it's absolutely illegal via a literal reading of the law or their constitutions but hey those things are always bent when it's convenient and courts have always come with excuses. I don't see how it can possibly be legal in 2018 for an employer to hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 11:30 AM
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It's not even about "rich". The "upper middle class" in most developed nations already more than doubles the income per man of the "lower middle class" let alone the poor.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 05:53 AM
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Obviously not a specific person but others. Phrases like "I'm not prettying up for others but for myself" are often said in the context of people being criticized for depending to much about other's opinions and being valued by others. So some people say that they don't do it to appear good for others but for themselves and I'm sure some do but I'm sceptical that people who put in extra effort when they go outside belong to that group.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 05:46 AM
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It isn't hard to understand; I'm just saying that in that case you're not doing it "for yourself".
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 05:39 AM
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Well I never said they are doing it to be hit on. I said I'm sceptical the ones that put in more effort when they go outside are "doing it for themselves"
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 05:06 AM
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Oh please; there's a reason adoptive parents can generally make their children and even the entire world believe they aren't adopted. Childen don't look like their biologicl parents often enough and power of suggsetion is real and everyone will say of adoptive kids "ohhh, he's really got your eyes!" Barring things like obviously different races or a black-haired kid with two blond parents there's no way to know except doing a DNA test.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 04:59 AM
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It's a fairly interesting problem with evolutionry psychology shit that is often overlooked is that man is currently a species that lives outside of its natura habitat and that therefore all of its behaviour probably has weird quirks.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 04:33 AM
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You wouldn't even know the difference if they didn't tell you. They could've just said "here, this is your baby" and it could have none of your DNA and you could grow old and die and never have found out.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 04:25 AM
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Raising a kid completely on a single income is hard. With the _vast- amount of income inequaliy and how absolutely normal it is for one man to earn twice as much as the next I always found this argument together with "a child deserves two financial backers" to be so silly and detached from reality. The number of workers has nothing to do with it; it's about how much they earn in total.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 04:24 AM
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if I was under dressed or looked sloppy. "under dressed"—your choice of words is ironic. The point is that it's cold and apparently "dressing well" is the same as revealing a lot of skin if you're female here and the same standard apparently doesn't apply to males There are more ways to dress nicely than to reveal skin.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 03:50 AM
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It's an oft-repeated maxim that males pretty themselves up for female attention and love it when they get it and females pretty themselves up to make other females jealous and hate it when it results into getting male attention but they put up with it to make other females jealous.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 03:49 AM
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It's the dress code. A lot of clubs literally don't let women unless they dress up like that. I've heard many a legend about the legendary "door bitch" at the Jimmy Woo in Amsterdam who wields power beyond what is meant for mere mortal men; it is the Door Bitch alone who decides who may enter and who may not. Apparently you need to be stylishly dressed enough or something and if you don't the Door Bitch will let you know. I can't for the love of god grasp how this is even legal and won't get you…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 03:47 AM
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For some, not for others. I'm personally always sceptical towards people who say they are being pretty "for themselves" but put in that extra effort when they leave the house. If it was purely for yourself you'd put in the same effort if you're home alone and some indeed do that. Some people enjoy dressing up in front of the mirror and feel good about themselves and then sit at home on the couch feeling good about themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 03:45 AM
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I mean some people actually enjoy the terribad music and all.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 03:43 AM
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Yet you see plenty who don't as well so. Another major thing is that dressing like that for a job interview is a material strategy: you want that job and not getting it has real material consequences. Being looked at weirdly in the club has no material effect on you; you let it affect you or you don't but it's not going to lead to no money to pay the rent.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 03:42 AM
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It is not an agreement entered into between two parties unless you believe the "agreement" is to be bound by state law regarding marital obligations/rights and that includes divorce laws as well. Of course it's an agreement between two persons; it requires the consent of both and that consent needs to be witnessed and signed somehow. That this agreement happens outside of normal contract law does not make it less of an agreement. It's an agreement where two parties consent to and both agree to c…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/18 08:35 PM
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It’s not a contract. If you want something contractually dictating terms, what happens with what if there’s a divorce, etc, then get a prenup. There are no legally binding agreed upon “terms” to a marriage there is a license, you don’t sign any contract. There is simply state law which dictates how the various issues involved in a divorce are handled and determined by a court. Yeah and that's the problem: because it's an agreement entered into by two parties that is not a normal contract and wou…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/18 07:37 PM
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Marriage is a decision two people make though. Nobody forces anyone to do it. If you don’t want to obtain the benefits/obligations that the government has decided go along with marriage you don’t have to. The problem is that in most jurisdictions marriage is a contract hardcoded into the law where the normal rules of contract don't apply like "meeting of the minds" and stuff. Contrary to what people often think "I did not read the fine print and could not have reasonably expected it contained th…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/18 07:04 PM
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kids are expensive (especially education/medical care) America, fuck yeah!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/18 06:36 AM
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The problem is that the thesis of there being so-called "alphas" and "betas" is conditioned upon the idea that it's fairly objective who is and isn't that. But the term is also kept purposefully vague and allows people to fill it in like all vague political buzzwords.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/18 03:51 AM
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Wife now describes herself as asexual but refuses an open marriage. You don't need their permission legally you know. I would just declare that I'm going to do it anyway and they can get a divorce if they want to but if they don't then we'll stay together for the children. Just like you don't need people's permission for divorce you don't need it for infidelity either. I would just brazenly and openly announce that I would do it and see if they think that is enough to get a divorce over.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/18 03:27 AM
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That's why I think the term is silly and just designed to give a faux sense of scientificness toit. I don't know what accurate descriptions to use because it's one of those buzzwods where everyone has their own definition and image of.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/18 03:23 AM
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Yeah gee, everyone is more open to being hit on by people they consider attractive versus people they don't. The problem is this absurd line of "alpha" vs "beta" that some people managed to come up with like there is a type that "women" want with zero account for individual tastes and personality. The stance can be better worded with "people are more receptive to being sexually persued by people they find attractive than by people they don't find attractive" which is a "yeah duh".
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/18 03:01 AM
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The term "beta" doesn'tt even make much sense; the alpha wolf was the most dominant wolf and the beta was the second most dominant who would become alpha if the alpha died; they were numbered sequentially based on dominance. This whole binary separation between alpha and beta as "types" is nonsense; it does not occur in humans nor wolves; it's in relation to the role in the pack and even there it was found to be overtly simplified.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/18 01:53 AM
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You can't compare getting offended at a sound someone made with their mouth to a biological and instinctual drive. And I'm saying it's not a biological and isntinctive drive; you basically assume a priori that it is to prove that it is. I'm saying that it's a case of cultural taste and the fact that many cultures have had many different tastes regarding this is very strong evidence that it's not biological but cultural. Evolutionarily, it does not make sense to dump a lot of resources into a rel…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/18 10:27 PM
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Just because it wasn't labeled or talked about extensively doesn't mean that sexual orientation is a new concept. It is highly unlikely that if supposedly human beings can be neatly divided into "androphilic, gynophilic and ambiphillic" and that this is fixed at birth that it took 4 000 years after writing first to manifest for people to pick up on this. Especially when you consider it was historically documented in other civilizations that it clearly didn't work that way. How can I possibly tak…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/18 07:47 PM
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I mean you can know easily what you like sexually. How would you know wht others like sexually without research into the matter (which itself as soft science tests to be is often pretty shaky to be honest).
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/18 06:24 PM
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Your logic assumes there is some kind of monolithic gender divide in politics. The majority of both males and females are antagoistic to my political agendum because the majority of people are like with any politcal agendum. It's not like people will magically vote the same as I just because they share my genitals. There is no monolithic gender team in politics and votes. The majority of things I want are opposed by both the male and female members of the electorate where I live; like with every…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/18 08:14 AM
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How were you raised? These things weren't even brought up honestly. I was raised by a single by choice (female) parent. I'm seeing a lot of this weird stuff on the internet that parents istill all sorts of ideas into kids and tell them how to do this and that later; I wasn't told either way. We didn't talk much about my future or the expectations thereupon. My parent seemed to realize fairly early that my sibling and I were not the type to have children and probably not a relationship either so …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/18 06:05 AM
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It's disgusting to do; the entire organ is disgusting and there seems to be a ridiculous amount of social pressure—more on males than on females—to claim like you really like it like OP virtue signalling like a mofo here being all proud of how much they like it. So you typically get very divergent answers depending on whether you ask males or females: males always answer emphatically with how much they like it and how hot it is females constantly report that very few males seem to like it Now I …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/18 01:47 AM
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I hate "dating" and thank god it was never really a thing in my native culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/18 01:40 AM
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It's hardly just sexual assault. People seem to approach truth in a really weird binary way rather than approach reality as the game of chance and estimates that it is. People often seem waaaaay too convinced something is true or false with not enough evidence going either way. People often act like they've seen a ghost when they ask me if something is true and I say "I give it about 60-70% odds of being true" and then they demand I extremify my answer which I'm unwilling to do. Also: a big adva…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/18 01:37 AM
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At evry stage of a child's development it is inferior to either a pet or an adult friend. Apart from that there is no guarantee that I will like the child; you pick your friends; you don't pick your chidlren. If a random adult just came to move in what woud the odds be of a good bond? It seems like a very bad idea to have children; there are better ways to get companionship which I'm not too keen on anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/18 01:34 AM
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Sure. Men used to be able to rape their wives and it wasn't a crime. But it's nearly 2019 now. Marital rape only became a crime in the Netherlands in 1991 and other nations are very similar; it's interesting how late a lot of developments are.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/18 01:32 AM
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Quite right, but that is not my argument. My argument is that research has shown that almost anyone shows physical signs of arousal from almost all kinds of porn with all genders together with the fact that "sexual orientations" are a concept that is only around 140 years old and somehow no one taked bout before and entire cultures having sexisted where everyone was "bisexual"; this casts serious doubt on the idea that "sexual orientations" are not just an artificial form of social tribalism esp…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/18 11:52 PM
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Well try it and see what your dick says.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/18 11:09 PM
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I mean same thing is true for a lot of female-female porn. But like an interesting distinction is Yaoi vs Bara which is one of the few places where it actually has led to debate and controversy. THere are basically two main genres in Japan of drawn male-male porn, Yaoi and Bara; the former is primarily drawn by female artists with a female target demographic and the latter primrily by male artists with a male target demographic. A lot of the "gay community" is very critical about Yaoi arguing th…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/18 10:58 PM
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Surprisingly youporn did a survey among its users which found that around 25% of straight men reported watching gay porn which is almost the same amount as the straight women who watch lesbian porn (about 30% if i remember right). Other research reports similar numbers for both sexes and similar nubmers typically around 1/5; one assumes it is indeed slightly higher for a survey "amongst porn viewers" yeah. I have a theory that most women who watch porn regularly arent straight. Which would expla…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/18 10:54 PM
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Call it what you like; the point is that cheating is very common and thus monogamy is not as common as people say it is and goes against human genetic nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/18 03:29 PM
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The Mosuo is an often-cited example of a culture that still does this. It's done to varying extends still in Polynesian and South-American cultures; it obviously was more common before they got conquered by Europeans who brought nuclear families wit them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/18 03:28 PM
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The vast majority of cultures outwardly present as being monogamous. No, they do so now after Europe conquered the world. The vast majority of cultures also wear European business suits right now; the vast majority of cultures right now have males having short hair; these were not historical constants but of course the result of Europe conquering the world and spreading its culture. All those things were not the case back as late as 500 years ago when China and Japan were yet to fall under Europ…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/18 03:26 PM
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What do you make of cultural differences between how women behave towards men? Well, I see a lot of Americans on reddit talk about all these interactions as if they are global constants because Americans like to think the US is the only place that exists. I'm not from the US; I'm from the Netherlands which is a place that people sometimes remark upon for its population of sexually assertive females compared to other places. I think Simon Woolcot said something like "walking around in Amsterdam i…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/18 03:30 AM
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One of these things I never see in real life but I read the term on the internet once. I'll say one thing: every human being with short hair looks ridiculous in my opinion. A human being without its mane is like a peacock without its tail.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/18 03:02 AM
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The jealously regarding monogamy is entirely cultural and even in different cultures that have it it carries different degrees. Like for instance French culture sits straight on the edge; its reputation as a culture of cheaters is well-deserved but that's in no small part because French people just get less jealous about it and accept it as a part of life; apparently the majority of French people when polled believes that infidelity once or twice in a relationship is to be expected and just part…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/18 02:59 AM
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Actually a lot of cultures to this day still are s-ocalled avunculate and it was very common in the past. How avunculate cultures work is that biological paternal parents are not responsible for their own genetic offspring but for the offspring of their female relatives. THey typically form large extended families where offspring is always incporated into the maternal side of the family and sexual intercourse happens outside of the family but the identity of the paternal parent is often not know…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/18 02:51 AM
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People stil cheat in serial monogamy and those that don't practise a form of restraint; they'd like to have sex with some stuff they encounter on the street but simply restrain themselves to retain their honour.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/18 02:49 AM
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A thing of the past? No, they were never a thing. Not entirely. Even in the past lots of people cheated and separated. This is like the biggest argument against this thing many people claim that "human beings are naturally pair-bonding". Like even in cultures where monogamy is the social norm I think everyone can agree that monogamy to most people is an act of restraint—people do it because they gave their word of honour and like to stick to that; not because they don't constantly encounter stuf…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/18 02:47 AM
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People really need to get rid of this idea of "there is one thing that makes people attractive to the opposite sex"; there is no constant; there are gross constants of what makes people unattractive yes where like 90% of people can agree on and yeah overweight and terrible social skills would fall under it. But those weird books with beliefs tht there are things which over 70% of the population find attractive and can agree on are just a stopgap for ehh.. well poor social skills; it's easier to …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/18 07:55 PM
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Because random bullshit gendered social norms. For isntance males face harder punishment for almost any crime but not for child neglect or infanticide; there females face harder punishment for the same thing. It's about respect and expectations; people get angrier the more they are dissapointed and expected someone to do better; no one gets angry at a small child for acidentaly breaking something or even a cat for eating your food because you don't respect them to do better and don't expect more…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 10:02 PM
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Looking it up here in 2004 11% of the NY metropolitan area professes a "lack of a believe in a god" which apparently includes the agnostics. If you go to the Netherlands that's 83% nationwide and even higher in the big cities. It's not comparable at all; that number is extremely low for a developed nation. Or some other things which are vastly different is that in the US per capita per year three times as many people get married. In the US marriage is still the mainstream option whereas Europe i…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 10:37 AM
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Look, our biologies are different. A mother always knows if her baby is hers. The father can’t know. That paternity uncertainty increases with the number of sexual partners she’s had. Yeah but conversely that male may end up causing a string of babies outside of wedlock by other people which the entire married unit is now financially responsible for. Also again this is just a rationalization; people continue to come with this shit even if people are infertile either electively or not. A woman do…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 03:59 AM
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Honestly I find all this shit in general to be absurdly stereotypical and just weird so I have two possibly explantions: y'all never come outside y'all live in the United States where it is actually true because it wouldn't really surprise me to be honest if this shit were actually true in the US. Regardless; if it's true in the US be mindful that the US is a unnaturally religious and "traditional" country for a developed nation. You do realize that the most powerful man in Europe right now is a…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 03:41 AM
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If this is the case then why does't it apply to makes? I find this logic to be silly: if someone has a high sex drive and they don't have a single partner to get that from then they will obviosuly have sex with many different people; if they have a single partner to get it from then that solves that. It's just rationalizing more aversion to female sexuality that doesn't seem to exist for male sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 03:12 AM
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I mean whatever the incidence of false reports of any crime is; it's elementary to assume that that incidence is higher when people accuse a powerful political person. There's little to be gained by making a false accusation against the baker of your town with no money; there is a lot to be gained politically by making an accusation against a powerful political figure so naturally in that case the numbers of false accusations will be higher.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 01:41 AM
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Luckily I don't live in the United States. People here seem less paranoid and there are far less sex scandals. What also helps is that the media here on principle does not publish the names of suspects; I thought it was legally required but it turns out it isn't; they just don't because they have the decency to withhold names until the verdict is in. Like a while back a Swiss MP had taken a nude selfie in the parliamentary room when no one was there and it was leaked. It's hilarious to see how a…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/18 09:38 PM
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If a man is timid, no matter what happened in his life to cause that, he is universally going to be seen as unattractive, or even disgusting. Yet you see many of them in long happy marriages
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/18 08:57 PM
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I mean if you marry a virgin you either: married someone without having got to know them properly before married someone who waited for marriage to have sex Both cases I think are like "nope, very wrong mentality." But then again I would also say if someone wants to get married to be "nope, very wrong mentality". People who want to get married are either: smart and immortal and exploit the system and gullible people to gain a hold of property sentimental fools who care about tradition and labels…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/18 07:27 PM
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Why is it borthersome though? Like I don't really see how that is related to how good someone is at parenting at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/18 07:24 PM
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I didn't take the test this time but I know it and I scored "average" the last time I took it whatever that is. A friend of mine has a diagnosis in autism and had a perfect score on this test. They really never had any problems intuiting social situations or reading facial expressions; they just have weird compulsions and are incredibly shy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/18 05:58 PM
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I never said you did; I just said that in practice when people make such claims that is what they mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/18 05:15 PM
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You assume that when people say this they have equal standards for the sexes. In my experience: about almost any personality trait people say they dislike it they have different standards for sexes but also for things like ethnicities and age-categories: like when people say they dislike attention seeking they have a far lower standard for young children of course. When people say: "I dislike X" X is typically taken to be relative for random identity groups; not relative to the entire human spec…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/18 05:10 PM
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Meh, it's a usual thing with language that there are a lot of terms like this which are really super vague and exist on a continuumand a lot of self-help guides then say "don't settle" like it means anything without coming with an operative definition of 'settling'. But these self-help guides are purposefully vague because they don't exist to help people but to get adclicks and they get that by getting people to come back reading and to do that you need to tell people what they want to hear and …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/18 01:39 AM
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Same as what my "strategy" is now; have no strategy and just go with whatever happens; I've no essential need for "romantic love" in my life anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/18 11:43 PM
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Pretty much the opposite honestly. A lot of males seem to think that females like muscles as much as males do. Like typically when this is polled what males think the ideal male body is and what they think females think the ideal male body is and what females actually think is the ideal male body males really overestimate how much muscles actually like. People often point out that those extremely muscular action-hero characters do not at all attract a female audience and it's just a male power f…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/18 11:25 PM
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To be fair they don't say it about infertile biological females. Having said that a large branch of it is just "misandry" and MtFs are male in their eyes and thus worthy of ire. In many ways the moderates are considerably more into maintaining the gender roles than the radicals though; like the radicals are often sepratists and I can respect that in the same way I can respect MGTOW; I find this mentality of "Oh the other sex is so terrible and bad and awful... but I still want their respect and …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/18 11:20 PM
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I mean it existed; it's called "The Greek military". It was very common in ancient military societies where all male citizens were under conscription or t least a large part. Like the Persian army said "women for breeding, boys for pleasure, but melons for sheer delight."
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/18 11:12 PM
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