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That doesn't say single women have more opposite sex friends
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 08:43 AM
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A lot of men also ended up twisted and bitter because few or no women threw themselves at them until they're like 35. And thats partially their fault for sure but the resentment builds
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 12:33 AM
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In my experience western women expect you to be a walking good looking, extroverted charmer so I don't see how that's any less "transactional". Women have to be attracted to you in some way and for foreigners the attraction is wealth and a better life and for western women it's looks, status, and personality
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 12:30 AM
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So like with any group of men there are some toxic dudes in it. Doesn't mean as a whole it is wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 12:21 AM
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Pd is 6 3, famous, hilarious, rich and rumor has a huge dong
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 12:12 AM
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Omg it's her again https://theredarchive.com/r/PurplePillDebate/i-dated-straight-men-so-you-dont-have-to-a.1521724
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 07:40 AM
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Wait are you this person? https://theredarchive.com/r/PurplePillDebate/i-dated-straight-men-so-you-dont-have-to-a.1521724
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 07:39 AM
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Let us never forget https://theredarchive.com/r/PurplePillDebate/i-dated-straight-men-so-you-dont-have-to-a.1521724
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 07:39 AM
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Awesome I doubt most women would agree with you
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 12:23 AM
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Well that is their revenge so enjoy the news every day
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 06:50 PM
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It does if they all vote for trump and you hate trump
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 08:17 AM
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That's also why the men are single and on apps
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 10:40 PM
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Single is hooking up sometimes let's be real
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 08:39 AM
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You're forgetting a large caveat.. it's younger men who have it harder. A 55 year guy with wealth who has his shit together and is in shape has more options than the average woman his age
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 08:24 AM
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Right but women also mailed him after they knew he murdered people. Also women like guys who went to prison or Chris Brown. I think some women know a guy is not genuinely nice but they are impressed by his manipulation skills cause that's an attractive trait.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 08:37 AM
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Well like 45% of white women voted for trump.. who.. ignoring the rest of his politics... Is undoubtedly a toxic bully towards women
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 08:29 AM
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This is a great point
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 07:38 PM
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It doesn't apply because an age gap is not hidden whereas someone can pretend to be non violent and they usually are I imagine
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 08:39 AM
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Narrator: they weren't truthful about it
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 08:33 AM
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Exactly. THIS is settling!!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 09:18 AM
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Just look at a woman's past boyfriends and how long she was in each relationship that should tell you
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 09:16 AM
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Like I said in another comment most don't realize they are settling. They just happen to let a more normal guy through the filter and they actually do fall in love cause he's nice, and then think "maybe I don't need hot sex" this is a nice life and I enjoy his company
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 09:14 AM
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It's not stupid at all. Women, and men too, DONT REALIZE they are settling. They aren't conscious of it. It's more like: when they are younger they have some dumb standards like at least 6 ft tall or full head of hair or whatever, but then maybe they meet a guy in real life who's bald and they think "wow that actually didn't bother me" so they take off the filter on their online dating. Standards naturally change over time but when young people look at older people they go "wow they settled"
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 09:11 AM
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Depends where you live. You have to be in a big city then early 30s is probably the best time
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 09:05 AM
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Women get to be promiscuous with men well above them in the social ladder
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 08:57 PM
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Women don't like to hear the truth unfortunately
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 08:56 PM
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Women get the privilege to have anonymous sex with attractive men and a lot of them take advantage
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 08:55 PM
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Right but if they had no chance anyways why even try
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 05:37 PM
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As a person, of course, if I'm into someones personality and character that never changes but connecting with someone and attraction are not the same thing. If you have a super deep connection that can make up for lack of attraction I believe but there's a biological reality to attraction. Men lose attractiveness as well as they get older it's not quite as fast as women but they definitely do as well. I just try to keep an extremely high bar for attractiveness as someone dating in their 30s beca…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 05:33 PM
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I've always had better luck at dive bars where you can have longer conversations. Also if I were younger again I would probably try to actually just make friends with girls at bars if it's your hometown. Then just try to keep expanding your social circle and breaking into new ones that include women. Then respectfully ask our girls from these expanded groups (so you don't piss people off). Also do online dating of course
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 09:27 AM
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Instead of the reality where the woman has whored it up and they have the low n count
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 09:17 AM
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Not being promiscuous and not being promiscuous but having the option to be are not the same thing
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 09:15 AM
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How do you know they aren't correctly seeing that even improving themselves won't help that much so they give up
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 09:14 AM
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Exactly. Men want a hoe-phase too and they never ever get it and if they do it's mostly with women uglier than them or they have to lie
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 09:13 AM
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You're saying to simply not struggle with dating men have to go through an insane transformation (awkward, no charisma to hyper social guy with rizz and status). A. This is impossible for non neurotypical men. B. Women don't have to do any of this to "not struggle" with dating
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 09:10 AM
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The vast majority could get a girlfriend with a pulse yes. The vast majority could not even get 5% of the sexual variety they desire and are titillated with 24/7
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 09:05 AM
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The parents post was gross I'll admit but it does annoy me dating in my 30s seeing pictures of the women I'm dating when they were younger and hotter knowing they wouldn't have been into me then and some other guy was enjoying it
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 09:02 AM
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This doesn't really track with my experience. Young men have friends they just don't talk about deep stuff or be vulnerable with them. Young dudes just make fun of each other, shoot the shit, and play video games they don't like vent their real problems
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 08:26 AM
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The original question was do women understand not do they care
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 06:19 AM
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Sorry haha I should have clarified I just meant on the being too poor to go out I was poor for a long time and still went to bars frequently
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 10:10 PM
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Well I completely agree with you on third spaces I was just saying even poor guys can go to bars or fairs or what not
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 09:36 PM
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"I'm entitled to never feel uncomfortable and only have guys I'm super into talk to me and guys should be able to determine that without knowing me"
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 08:41 PM
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True but also it's simply to remove any inconveniences from women's dating. The hard part of being a woman is having to reject guys you dont like or aren't up to your standard so all of these things you mentioned reduce the instances of women having to reject guys. Women are basically refusing or trying to reduce the difficult parts of dating from their perspective
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 08:38 PM
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I actually disagree with this. Live even if you are poor you can pregame to save money
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 08:32 PM
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And women, for whatever reason, think this should be totally acceptable to the male psyche
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 08:30 PM
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My guess is you would do much better in online dating with the pic on the right
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 08:25 PM
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Women shouldn't accept such relationships it's a two way street. But women want the money and lifestyle an older rich guy provides
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 07:52 PM
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I think feminism has taught women they can pressure society into accepting and encouraging things that are good for most women while shaming acts that deviate
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 07:49 PM
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Anyone who meets online.. they chose it.. in person I could see being swayed
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 07:47 PM
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The problem is people selectively applying "do what you want it's none of my business" but other issues they don't think that way
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 07:45 PM
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It's super expensive compared to other places. It's not accessible really for normal guys
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 08:41 AM
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This is a lame take. Do they complain less? Is seeing prostitutes still heavily judged by society? Does it lock you out of normal relationships if you admit to it? There's many other variables
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 08:40 AM
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I mean this would probably get you a woman with a pulse yes
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 08:36 AM
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Something worth mentioning is men who spend a decade working on themselves at the same time womens standards are dropping because they are losing buying power in the market. So it's not even men getting better necessarily they are also just waiting for standards to drop
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 08:34 AM
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That's unfortunate I thought based on posts here women were better educated about the way the world works
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 08:24 AM
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I mean apps exist now if you're over 24 and can get decent enough looking you should be able to get dates that way with some people
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 08:23 AM
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I'll grant you men can get more confident but very few actually change their personality. If they are weird and autistic they mostly just learn to accept it
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 08:02 AM
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You can yes, but it is very difficult and it's like 5% of men that make a significant improvement at confidence / charisma, especially around the opposite sex which is different than things like stand up comedy. It's also worth noting women do not have to do this at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 09:27 AM
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That guy is attractive enough to get women unless he's super short
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 09:22 AM
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Changing your personality is not extremely basic
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 09:20 AM
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The difference is women dont have to make these changes they just have to look better. I will say it's more even for older women say 40 or 50+. They might actually have to change their personalities
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 08:51 AM
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Two things: 1. This doesnt work that well in online dating because personality does not really show very well and women already have tons and tons of options. 2. A key difference between men and women is women just have to look better whereas men have to radically change their confidence, charisma, and personality which is more difficult, especially for guys on the autism spectrum.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 08:49 AM
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they do when they're younger but as they get older their options decrease
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 01:15 AM
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Men dont only value women for sex. Most men want to have some casual relationships and flings before they settle down. Most average men are not afforded these opportunities so they basically have to pretend to want relationships just to get sex. Eventually though most want a real, long term relationship. Women, on the other hand, never have to be deceitful to have casual sex before they settle down.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 01:04 AM
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Oh how easily we all forget this thread: https://theredarchive.com/r/PurplePillDebate/i-dated-straight-men-so-you-dont-have-to-a.1521724.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 01:03 AM
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This is the wrong sub for "not being interested in social commentary". That is literally the entire point of this sub
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 11:30 PM
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Why does the average man need to "have the balls" to approach 100 women in order to get a girlfriend? I hear what you're saying but it's sort of an absurd expectation I dont think people had of men 4 decades ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 11:29 PM
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https://theredarchive.com/r/PurplePillDebate/i-dated-straight-men-so-you-dont-have-to-a.1521724
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 04:26 AM
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GoldOk2991 linked to it but the post has been removed. Here it is: https://theredarchive.com/r/PurplePillDebate/i-dated-straight-men-so-you-dont-have-to-a.1521724. Sorry all of these guys look decent and none of them appear to have mental issues from their posts
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 04:26 AM
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This is not actually true. There are societies in Africa where being obese is attractive as it indicates someone having been nourished. In China being light-skinned is attractive whereas in a lot of cultures being more tanned is attractive. Some cultures softer men are more attractive to women, other cultures it's more machismo. Society and culture have a lot more influence over these things than people think. I would agree that you shouldnt sit around and wait for society to change as it usuall…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 07:25 PM
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You can't negotiate attraction in the moment but society as a whole can influence what is seen as attractive. For example there are some African societies where obesity is considered attractive. Womens attraction to a guy can often be influenced by her friends opinions, etc. Being a doctor is considered "noble", but being in IT is considered "lame". There are universal things obviously, but society does matter to a degree
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 08:33 AM
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So everyone who is poor is "forced" and "coerced" to go to work? Most of us have to work and so do these women they are choosing a high paying occupation
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 03:07 AM
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There's only an increase in "human trafficking" because nearby countries where it is illegal the women go from where it is illegal to where it is legal. The women are traveling for the high paying job that is illegal in their country.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 03:05 AM
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People are in denial about settling that's all I'm saying. A lot of women in their 40s all of a sudden learn they don't need a 6 foot 200k earner who's their age and they "actually like something different". I'm not saying this is you I'm just saying a lot of people don't realize they are settling. It's not conscious
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 08:54 PM
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a lot of people in modern dating are not looking for happiness they're looking for someone they can tolerate that meets their narcissistic standards
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 08:45 AM
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A lot of top guys do this too... they just keep dating and sleeping around until someone comes along that's truly out of their league then they wanna get maried
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 08:44 AM
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Tons of people think they aren't settling but their standards "change" or "evolve" over time. Women say things like "oh I learned I actually dont mind bald guys", or "wow I never gave older guys a chance but I actually dont mind them." This is what settling looks like. People dont admit they settled.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 08:42 AM
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Can't wait for Trump! /s
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 07:48 PM
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I don't think you're talking about average guys. Average guys do not have the options to demand skinny women forget hourglass
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 08:03 PM
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If they spend this long on maintenance you'd think staying skinny would be a higher priority
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 07:29 AM
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It's a good point like if society is saying it's bad to be old and childless it makes it legitimately bad because a person experiences judgement and social rejection. These men are trying to enforce this old gender trope.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 03:11 AM
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Agreed yes that would be weirder
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 09:21 PM
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I see a lot of late 20s women mid to late 30s men. It's not uncommon
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 07:43 PM
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5-8 years younger is not uncommon for a guy who has it together and looks dec
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 07:41 PM
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I am curious is the subtext of these videos that this woman doesn't need men or something? I could see that being seen as a bit of a gender attack. Or is this woman genuinely like "here is me visiting Africa"
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 07:33 PM
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That's mostly because of the feminist movement imo. Men need to get on the same level and start empowering themselves without women
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 07:30 PM
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Social skills are not enough however and especially in the age of online dating social skills don't get you dates. There's also a bad feedback loop where attractive women will not give ugly guys good reactions at all so it's 100x more difficult for ugly guys to gain confidence around attractive women. It's easy to then say "oh the hot guy just has confidence and social skills". Like I agree social skills are the most important thing overall to date period, but looks are a massive factor as well …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 09:12 PM
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Looks are important but a lot of people value other things like doctors will marry doctors, people of small religions will marry others of the same religion,
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 07:08 AM
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To me this seems a bit extreme unless one party is literally a crackhead
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 06:59 AM
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It's easier when they are younger and the wall is later but at like 50 its tough for women unless they want to date 75 year olds
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 12:45 AM
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This guy is out of his mind these guys all look normal decent looking dudes. Unless they happen to all be like 5'6 or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 12:38 AM
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This woman is a troll she's just saying these guys aren't her "type" but they would or should be a lot of normal women's type
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 12:31 AM
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I mean the girl is pretty attractive imo but yea point proven. It's never going to be hard as a skinny white girl
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 12:25 AM
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True this doesn't make sense men don't care whether you have a gf or not
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 12:02 AM
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You have to be in one of the bigger cities or get in some niches like burning man or digital nomads or something
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 12:00 AM
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That's tough man I feel for you genuinely. Maybe try some different drugs or psychedelics could help modify neurodivergence
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 12:00 AM
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I've seen it said men's options grow with money not time which I think is true. So older is not necessarily better
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 11:58 PM
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Everyone in here always goes to the extremes but realistically cool guys in their 30s are dating 5-7 years younger and cool guys in their 40s and 50s are dating 10 years younger. That's generally what I see it's not 50 year olds dating college girls
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 08:49 PM
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Society plays a role in deciding what is attractive. Society has been shitting on average guys for the past 30 years. We could start by at least changing that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 11:24 PM
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Older single women have likely had a lifetime of relationships and plenty of sex. They may be single and may not love it but it's different than a young guy who's never had anything. Plus older women are less likely to be online and especially reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 11:16 PM
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Most relationships dont work out anyways so just lie to get some experience and then you wont need to lie in the future
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/23 09:48 AM
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Looks like about 50:50 and there's a pretty decent % of women who are conservative, very religious, small town types, etc. If you took a sample of women living in major cities I think your stats would look lower. It might also be like 27 or 28 for some women it's not a hard rule. If you consider most liberal big city type women have been dating since they were 17 they probably get the chasing hot guy thing out of their system in 7 or 8 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/23 09:35 AM
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I think it's irrelevant if the same centers of the brain are active. You still know the woman on the other side doesn't know you exist and you're looking at a screen. With hook up culture it's a real person, there's real emotions involved and you're learning a pattern of ignoring real people's possible emotions for your sexual needs. I don't think most men get real emotions for porn stars on the screen. Maybe some do but that's rare. I'm not saying there's no harm with porn but if it's 1000 hour…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 08:44 PM
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I don't think man or women wants to be in a nonsexual relationship unless there's a good reason so I don't think it's fair to say that's transactional. I think from men it's more like oh you're 10 years older and don't look as good so bye. That's the transactional part of men that can be gross imo
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 08:40 PM
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I think some people do but its rare nowadays
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 08:36 PM
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I think it can simply be stated women don't really want anything from average men until they are early 30s and then if they are into kids they will grab a provider. Until then they will only enter relationships if it's a really good deal for them. A lot of it depends on age.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 08:35 PM
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Accepted but not glorified
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 08:31 PM
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Why not? I would argue it's more damaging. At least with porn your brain knows it's fantasy
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 08:29 PM
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And many men work in sweatshops but don't have any chance to make a much bigger salary in sex work.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 08:27 PM
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A lot of it is society for giving them so much shame rather than acceptance.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 08:26 PM
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So does drugs and many other things we don't ban
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 08:23 PM
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It's the same as banning drugs and look how that worked out
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 08:23 PM
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I think this is one of those things where literally no matter how the industry is sold you will say women are being "manipulated" because there's no path in your mind for women to be free to make their own decisions. I think 99% of women know damn well it's not a good idea or glamorous but some do it anyways and I'm not gonna hate
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 08:22 PM
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Get those cats ready!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 02:30 AM
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There's nothing wrong with having different preferences at different times but there's also nothing wrong with someone judging you for your past preferences
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 02:29 AM
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The final conclusion is Western countries having insanely low birth rates. I don't have a strong opinion on that but it seems like the natural conclusion
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 02:25 AM
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They aren't easily available in America. I'm saying it's something the gov could do to help not a perfect fix
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 07:41 PM
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My friend did a hair transplant. He went from strong balding to full head of hair and 3x'd his dating options in his words
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 07:32 AM
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How about gov supported brothels? No woman is forced to participate but the salaries would be high enough that some women volunteer?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 07:29 AM
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Like I said if it was brothels women wouldn't be forced to but you can raise their salaries until some volunteer
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 07:25 AM
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What about government supportes brothels? Women wouldn't be forced to work there but the salaries would be high enough that some women would
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 07:24 AM
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It's called "privilege" and I think the common term is pretty privilege. It goes for guys and girls but for girls it's a higher percentage of younger women and lower percentage of older women
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 07:16 AM
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I see this idea a lot on here but culture does influence attraction. At one point obese women were attractive because it meant they were rich. Even now being thick is a new way it's coming back. Culture does and can influence what we are attracted to so it's possible for it to change over time
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 07:12 AM
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I have it does but these guys are rare. The problem is it has to be such a radical change it's near impossible women act like it just means being slightly more talkative or nice or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 10:18 AM
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If one shot will fix it in future generations is it a really a flaw?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 05:18 PM
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They know it's fwb deep down but they don't want to admit to themselves they're just enjoying the sex
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 09:17 AM
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It's worse to not have any. Sexual attraction from people you don't feel reciprocal for is still validating in that it confirms a lot of people find you attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 09:00 AM
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But plastic surgery will be much easier in future generations so probably won't be an issue
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 08:50 AM
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Sex workers are not a thing when it's illegal and frowned upon in most places
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 08:49 AM
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You're not wrong but at the same time the only solution is just ignore that nonsense and build yourself up.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 01:08 AM
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No one thinks about age. Market dynamics: for a guy in his 20s it's as hard as a woman in her 50s. It evens out in the long run
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 01:00 AM
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If your relationship is solely based on what level you think you're at and what level your partner is at its probably not gonna work out. It's harder when you are younger because the women your age have a bigger pool going after them (most women will date their age + 7 years older, etc).
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 12:58 AM
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I dont think night clubs are great. Bars are better where you can actualy have convos. Also travel!!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 12:52 AM
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You should never just sit around and wait but if you are improving your stats (money, body, personality) you will gain power as a man. Women are looking for more serious relationships as they get older so they are more interested in nice guys with money. If you're doing well in those categories you can play that card and date around a bit. My friend is in his mid-30s and a "director" at a tech company in NYC. Literally is with a new girl every time I see him. It's not divorcees and single moms e…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 12:50 AM
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it's not punishment. why wouldn't men just want the best they can get? which would be younger if they can. Same as asking why young girls have casual sex with the hottest they can get. Why would they sleep with the average guy when they can get hotter if there's no relationship involved?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 02:23 AM
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There's no medication for guys on the spectrum they're just weird, and that weirdness is basically a non-starter for ever having casual sex. I've also never seen a guy change it, whereas I've seen tons of guys lose weight and get jacked and do much better. Changing looks is much easier and gets far more results than "attitude"
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 07:28 AM
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Women love to accuse men of having a bad attitude. The reason they love words like "attitude" and "personality" is because those are things that can be changed or improved. Oftentimes, it's actually mental health issues like autism, social anxiety, depression, which are incredibly difficult/impossible to change. Women aren't punished in dating for mental health issues to the same degree as men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 04:40 AM
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He's expressed a preference. All preferences are acceptable according to the women in this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 03:21 AM
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It's why most men look younger so they dont have to put up with obnoxious prove it behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 03:15 AM
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I personally dont care but younger women do look better and are a better investment in the sense they will look better for longer than older women. I think it's a valid preference that's not necessarily predatory
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 03:11 AM
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It's better than knowing you've been picked after a woman's been chasing chad for 10 years and finally has decided she needs a provider.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 10:43 PM
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Exactly. What most men need is advice on how to be attractive. What women give is advice on how to get dates when you are already attractive. They are different problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 10:38 PM
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more likely he's physically unattractive and has slight mental issues (anxiety or slight autism).
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 10:35 PM
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money matters for long term not short term. Also matters more as women get older. Young women dont give a shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 10:28 PM
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yes it's assortative mating after women have spent 10+ years chasing chads.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 10:22 PM
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So they are allowed double standards without being called entitled? But men arent?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 08:59 PM
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Your response fits the pattern of "libertarian, free market when it works for me and socialism/power difference when it doesn't." Your forgetting that what is attractive is influenceable and culture changes. I'm sure you have a problem with men having a preference for younger women for example, or a preference for women who haven't slept around.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 08:51 PM
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See this is how it should be... but somehow men having a preference for younger women is heavily judged
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 08:45 PM
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And back in the 70s women who had premarital sex were harshly harshly judged. And it changed....
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 12:38 AM
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Men want to be able to do this and not be judged for it the same way women are not judged for having tons of casual sex. That's what OP wants. That's what you're calling "permission". The same way the feminist movement made society accept women having casual sex / outside of marriage
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 12:35 AM
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Men want to be able to do this and not be judged for it the same way women are not judged for having tons of casual sex. That's what OP wants. That's what you're calling "permission". The same way the feminist movement made society accept women having casual sex / outside of marriage
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 12:33 AM
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Men want to be able to do this and not be judged for it the same way women are not judged for having tons of casual sex. That's what OP wants. That's what you're calling "permission". The same way the feminist movement made society accept women having casual sex / outside of marriage
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 12:33 AM
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See thats the thing. Women in the 70s had a sexual revolution where they forced society and men to accept their behavior of sex outside of relationships and premarital sex. Men should do the same thing. We want to have sex with attractive escorts and then not be judged for it later.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 12:31 AM
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Stupid argument. No one is going for children here
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 12:25 AM
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And if my sister slept around Id call her a pathetic loser slut. Luckily she has some dignity
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 12:23 AM
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It's very similar. Chad doesn't find the ONS very attractive at all the same way the escort doesn't find the guy very attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 12:21 AM
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Relationships are looks matched generally. ONS are totally not
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 12:16 AM
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The point I think is that men would like to do this without being judged by Western women. The same way women sleep around a ton and expect not to be judged for it later. Feminists fought to have sexual freedom and not be judged. Men would like the same thing with respect to prostitution.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 12:08 AM
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Well if you're happy thats what matters
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 11:32 PM
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It doesn't but makes it more inconvenient. Why should I have to break the law in my country or travel? If western women truly did not care they would not support those laws
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 10:55 PM
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Women are the ones mostly against legalizing prostitution in America so yes they do pass laws
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 10:49 PM
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You care when you're older and divorced and there's no good men anymore cause they are all banging younger foreign women.. yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 10:48 PM
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He just said a non-fat 50 year old guy. They definitely exist. 800k in retirement is probably harder to acheive but not that crazy if they just owned a house somewhere
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 02:52 AM
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Not true. Most men who have their shit together at all are looking younger. Hell my mid-30s male friends are looking younger.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 02:52 AM
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Both people in a sexual encounter dont have to think each other is "hot". Old couples have sex even though they are ugly. Younger couples have sex even if one does not think the other is attractive at that moment. Young women date old guys with money they probably dont think are that hot. Guys hook up with ugly women when they are desperate. An escort is attracted to a client in the same way a masseuse is attracted to a client.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/23 10:34 PM
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Chads dont see you as anything more than some utility.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/23 10:29 PM
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If she actually in detail went over all of her encounters if her body count is 30+? I think most guys just dont ask and dont want to know if they are compatible. In the same way women wouldn't ask about escorts if they were compatible.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/23 10:25 PM
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I imagine it's pretty strange for both a guy to grill a girl about her past hookups and also for a girl to grill a guy if he's slept with escorts. Both sides probably wont know in a real world scenario
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/23 10:23 PM
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Tons of celebs sleep with escorts. It's way less drama than dealing with regular women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/23 10:22 PM
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No, there is a reason why women want to pretend to not be superficial that is not just because they are "polite." It's because they fear at some point they will have to settle so they want to pretend that's what they always wanted anyways. Because if chasing chads for 7 years is their 20s doesn't work out they want to put glasses on, get back on online dating and say "no I've always like nerds" I mean genuinely how many women in their 40s do you think are like "i'll only date 6ft 3 guys with per…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/23 04:16 AM
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while older women can be gorgeous it's still sort of denial and coping from women because even if they look amazing at 33 a guy will still think "yea but if I can find a hot 24 year old with good habits they will still stay hotter longer." i mean people really need to stop being so superficial but if you want to play that game that's how it works.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/23 04:06 AM
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i mean you could say the same about older men like "their chances of having a kid are low why would they need women?" There's more to relationships than making kids believe me plenty of both sex are still interested as they get older.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/23 04:02 AM
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10 years younger though easy which if you think about does mean a man's options get much better as he gets older
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/23 03:55 AM
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Yup guys on here love to complain and women love to deny it but things even out with age. A 50 year old guy with his shit together has tons of options assuming he isn't going for 25 year olds
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/23 03:48 PM
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Very very true. I'm guessing all my guy friends will eventually get married, but they probably go on 1 or 2 dates a year whereas the girls they marry will have gone on 100s
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 04:52 AM
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You're right we should also not help the poor, homeless, or drug addicts. They're just cowards and failures right?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 04:48 AM
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correction: young women
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 04:45 AM
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right well to some degree women create that phenomenon. If collectively younger women are ignoring 30% of men, then in their 30s women all want to get married, some of those women are going to have to settle for the guys who didnt get any action when they were younger and thus deal with their bitterness.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 04:43 AM
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And do you think women would want chris brown if he wasn't famous? Who cares.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 04:35 AM
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Trafficking is against the law so maybe just hire more enforcement to stop the trafficking? Women are not forced to be prostitutes there are plenty of other jobs
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 01:38 PM
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I'm all for prostitution but sugar babies are not prostitutes. They only have a very small number of clients (usually 1 or 2) at once for longish periods of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 01:35 PM
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more money, more friends, better body, lifestyle. it can all be improved.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 07:28 PM
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they could be a waitress or deliver food. there are plenty of other jobs they could do instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 12:01 PM
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even in the US location plays a huge role. My friends in new york do way better than my friends in seattle
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 11:36 AM
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How is taking advantage of being born in the USA worse than taking advantage of being born hot or rich?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 11:29 AM
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They are attracted to him because he's American. How is that worse than a women being attracted to a guy because he has money or is hot?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 11:27 AM
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stay strong. short men have it much harder i feel for you
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 11:25 AM
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Settling for women means they have to give up the looks standards it doesnt mean they have to settle for a guy they hate. Like no woman in her mid 30s thinks she needs a guy over 6 feet with 6 pack abs but early 20s women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 11:16 AM
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I think most older women would be fine with an average man but they probably just haven't run across one they have good chemistry with.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 11:13 AM
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it's not the same though. At the end of the day it points back to biology. Women's fertility falls of a cliff mid-30s whereas men can have kids much later in life. At the end it evens out.. women have more options when they're younger and men have more options when they're older.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 11:12 AM
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older women can look great.. but it's a smaller and smaller number in my experience. Honestly I find very attractive older women very desirable for that reason... they are so rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 11:09 AM
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Women will be more attracted to average men as they age but there are also less women in the market, especially childless women.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 11:02 AM
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Agreed but better to spend that energy building yourself up rather than basking in Schadenfreude
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 10:58 AM
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so men need to, but if women hold out or stay single it's because all men suck.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/22 10:30 AM
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this is because of age. younger women still have more value despite being overweight, etc. This completely changes at about age 40.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/22 10:13 AM
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Best advice to young guys who aren't getting what they want: build your value and move a Northeast city in your 30s. you will have tons of options with late 20s/30s women or older if you're older.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/22 10:10 AM
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a lot of these dont last because young guys get into relationships just for sex
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/22 10:07 AM
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Of course. Both men and women want to experiment sexually before they settle down. the problem is this very hard for average looking men without pretending they want commitment or what not. Women pretend not to care but really it's because they could have that need immediately satisfied if they wanted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/22 10:04 AM
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What is missing in this analysis is age. The younger a woman is, the more being overweight or average doesn't hurt her options whereas its much harder for older women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/22 10:00 AM
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they want a good deal
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/22 09:49 AM
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I thought it was "cheaters and abusers".. now it's just men who sleep around? If you made a group about women who sleep around on facebook it would get shut down in one second
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/22 09:47 AM
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if women are lying about their past/giving a different impression as to how much they've slept around a group is valid in my mind
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/22 09:46 AM
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link to one of those groups on facebook?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/22 09:45 AM
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I guarantee you if men started a group on facebook called "Have we slept with the same girl?" and the point was to out women who slept around a lot and are now pretending to not be into that if would get shut down in 10 seconds.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/22 09:34 AM
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men need a group to check if a woman is lying about her n count. like hey guys how many of you have slept with this woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/22 09:32 AM
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Sure it should be well regulated. In Australia and Nevada for example it's definitely free choice
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 01:23 PM
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People should be allowed to make choices and we should let them determine what's healthy for them. Alcohol is legal for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 01:17 PM
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Healthy and consensual sex does not hurt women
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 11:45 AM
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He's also wicked famous as a funny guy which goes a looong ways. The fame + funny is way different than the short guy at the bar that cracks a few jokes. You have also be super famous for that effect to work or in a large social circle where you're known as the funniest guy ever or some shit. It absolutely does not mean guys that have poor success is all because of their personality which is what it's being presented as
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 11:06 AM
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It may not be a wall but I'm sorry 50 year old women do not have the same dating options as a 23 year old in terms of sheer numbers
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 10:56 AM
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How are they bombarding them? Mostly incels just stay on their forums I mean some do mass shootings but you can't blame all of them for the actions of a few
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 10:52 AM
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Vote and support for legal prostitution
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 10:49 AM
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Yes prostitution for young men should at least be legalized
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 10:49 AM
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And prostitution should be legalized and normalized
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 10:48 AM
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But prostitution is not legal. We could start with that
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 10:47 AM
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It works for women when they are younger but not when they are older. Patience my friend. Build yourself up lift weights, travel, socialize, get a high paying job and you'll start getting women. See some prostitutes in the mean time never hurt
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 10:46 AM
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Or legalize and normalize prostitution
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 10:43 AM
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Vote and support for legalized prostitution
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 10:41 AM
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I just saw the meme showing Pete Davidson and saying "see loser guys don't realize their personality is the whole problem". That implies women don't care about looks even though Pete Davidson is still quite attractive so even that is a dumb take
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 10:39 AM
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Legalizing and normalizing visiting sex workers
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 10:36 AM
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The top guys know a younger woman is a better investment in terms of their appearance. Confidence in men is a feedback loop. Guys are more confident because they get more attention. What women in their 30s perceive as "guys being more confident" is really that normal looking guys are finally getting attention. i.e. if a guy gets only 1 date a year with an attractive girl he's going to be nervous/not confident and fuck up. If he gets 1 date a week he's going to be confident after a few.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 10:45 PM
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huh funny how magically "it's easier". Must be because "I'm more confident." This is the same thing chad looking guys think. It's easier because the women you are dating are older, which is the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 10:39 PM
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But it's also fine to be vague. Being vague is not lying. If a guy is vague to you or says "let's just see how things go" it's on you whether you want to continue
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 05:51 PM
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You're going a bit deep into psychology and you'll realize a lot of times both men and women that have a lot of sex lie to themselves. Men lie to themselves to feel less guilty about using women and women lie to themselves to feel less guilty about being used. When either side is with someone they want to sleep with but can tell has flaws they lie to themselves and say "theres a chance this could work out" when deep down they probably know it won't
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 11:13 PM
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It varies by age for women. For young women yes for 60 year old women no
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 11:01 PM
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And the best players are the guys that can lie to themselves and believe it for a period. There's always a chance something turns into a relationship. They can always tell themselves that. It's the same way women lie to themselves about Chad. "This might work out! Maybe!". Meanwhile both sides are having meaningless sex and break up in 3 weeks
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 10:54 PM
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See really this guy is seeing through the bullshit. Most guys don't lie but they know there is a small chance this will turn into something serious going into a thing and in the meantime sex is nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 10:49 PM
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The truth of the matter is that girls who want casual sex just let guys get away with being vague and never ask them direct questions like "what are we? Are we exclusive". They know there's a real chance they are just being used for sex but they're cool with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 10:47 PM
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The guys I know that are players are just vague and make the girl ask to be "exclusive". They put they are looking for both relationship and casual in their online profiles and just make the girl do all the work to push things forward. Finally when the girl does they say there isn't enough chemistry after they've slept together 5 times. It's shady but I honestly don't think telling girls up front bluntly you just want sex ever works.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 10:41 PM
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So basically if you're hot is the test..
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 07:12 PM
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So regulate it so only that stuff is legal. It's not hard you just want to control women just like right wingers want to tell women not to have abortions
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 03:30 PM
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It's not legal for men in Nordic countries
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 03:07 PM
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Do you think the women at the bunny ranch in Nevada have no other job choices and have been coerced into their chosen profession?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 11:45 AM
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Haha awesome
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 11:20 AM
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Yea but at this point they can and should be selective about who they settle with and sleep around a bit as well. It's at this point bald chubby guys might have some actual options if they are otherwise cool and have career going
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 11:20 AM
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So every stripper in America has been forced into it from a young age? Coerced with no other job options in America? I'm talking about America not third world countries. Again just regulate it better it's not hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 11:19 AM
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So you want to control women's bodies... I believe women should be free to do what they want with their bodies. No one should be coerced there's plenty of other jobs people can do at least in America
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 10:51 AM
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So regulate it better
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 10:49 AM
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No one is entitled. Making prostitution legal does not mean anyone is entitled to it for free
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 10:33 AM
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I think society should help everyone get their needs met. If older women who can't find relationships want to pay men to talk to them I'm totally fine with that in the same way I'm fine with young men who can't get sex paying for it
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 10:29 AM
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I have a friend who's Asian and kills it with women in boston. They are mostly Asian women but he sleeps around a lot. He does have good jaw line and face and got a hair transplant also
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 10:16 AM
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They settle with time. Their standards lower. They obviously won't take the asshole but they'll settle for the bald chubby guy who's nice at some point
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 10:13 AM
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Men are also starved for just sex outside of emotional connection (at least in America)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 10:11 AM
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It fixes craving for sex. Obviously it doesn't help anyone get relationships. It does nothing for women which is what you really want to say
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 10:10 AM
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Everyone wants sex and love. A lot of people also want meaningless sex, usually when they're young. Legalizing prostitution helps ugly men still get sex. It doesn't fix relationships obviously but it solves one part of the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 10:09 AM
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Most men can get aroused by larger women if they give them a chance in the same way most women can get aroused by bald/short/fat guys if they give them a chance. The difference is society tries to convince men to settle and commit to larger women (via body diversity stuff) whereas the opposite is not true. There's no movement to convince women to settle for short/ugly/bald guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 07:14 PM
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Okay you win 🙂
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 06:15 PM
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I agree with what you wrote. However it would be easier to access for average men if it were legal in the US
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 05:57 PM
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And society shaming men for liking younger women is trying to "control" them "to be better men". It's the same thing and both groups have the right to push back against being controlled
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 05:55 PM
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What my handsome friend does who sleeps with a lot of women. Date (and sleep with) a bunch of women but never mention being "exclusive" until they bring it up. They say you're not really feeling the chemistry
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 05:26 PM
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OP is not wrong but it has nothing to do with men "bettering" themselves. Women just finally want to settle down when they are late 20s and stop chasing hot guys
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 05:24 PM
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Men need to come together and work to make prostitution legal
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 05:18 PM
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they are basically invisible. they are just a random guy on a bike subreddit or something. If they are happy with it then that is amazing for them. Its much easier to simply not need a partner
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 05:10 PM
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maybe it's height? In her 20s she only dated 6' guys and over but after 30 she decided to give 5'7 guys a chance and realized she doesn't care. height doesn't change with age. my point remains the same
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 05:06 PM
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This is 100% true. Then what happens is women use a guy's awkwardness to rationalize rejecting him (in reality it's because he's ugly), but he's awkward because of the negative feedback loop from women!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 05:02 PM
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They dont believe they are settling. It's more like they finally give the bald guy a chance and realize that it doesnt bother them whereas in their 20s they never had to give a bald guy a chance because there were 30 non bald guys ready to date them
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 04:51 PM
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Your response is equivalent to a man in 1900 saying "women should think about why they arent allowed to vote." The point is society can be wrong and people can work to change society's views.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 04:47 PM
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this is the right attitude. Men who post on here should have to get rejected 1000 times before whining
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 04:43 PM
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OP wants to not be shamed by normal society, not feminists. I assume.. Im not the OP
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 04:40 PM
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i mean standards get lowered. I'm sure women still would not settle for an abuser or asshole.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 04:38 PM
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hell yea that's the way to be really
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 04:32 PM
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No OP wants to not be shamed for his preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 04:31 PM
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Another guy too hot for me broke up with me after 4 months of sleeping together. Oh well I guess it just was just more life differences.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 04:21 PM
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women's preferences on online dating are equally objectifying
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 03:59 PM
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the assertion in the original post is that it's not a double standard, men are shamed more for having preferences. you responded by saying "some rejected men threaten violence" which is entirely a separate issue, although I would agree with you men are far more violent than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 03:57 PM
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your assertion is "society's view doesn't matter just do whatever you want." In reality society's view matters a lot. Entire movements are done to changes society's view on things (race, lgbtq rights, feminism, etc)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 03:53 PM
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thoughtful response!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 03:40 PM
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There's nothing wrong with pushing back against injustice
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 03:39 PM
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it's good to pushback against injustice though. That's what the feminists did and they made a lot of progress
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 03:38 PM
1

It's the period when women start to want something from non-chads so yes normal guys should be picky during this time
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 03:35 PM
1

How are they not comparable? A woman sleeping with hot guys in her 20s she knows deep down wont commit is the same as sleeping with escorts. It's a fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 03:34 PM
1

Men aren't entitled to sex but prostitution should be legal. Women aren't entitled to tell other women what to do with their bodies
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 12:48 PM
1

Men need to assert their power in their late 20s early 30s when women want to settle
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 12:32 PM
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Its because men used to be entitled to sex when they got married. That was the deal. Sex for commitment. Unfortunately women have broken their end of the deal and many modern women have spent their 20s Chad chasing. Lots of sex for the fantasy of chad commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 12:28 PM
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It changes as people get older because women realize they won't get the attractive guy and other stuff starts to matter more like family and stability
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 12:22 PM
0

I've said this many times. Young men just need to build for a decade and they can have a lot of options in their 30s and 40s as long as they are in a thriving big city (NYC for example).
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 10:06 AM
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That's extremely unfortunate that that happened to you, but I would say on the whole gang members and drug dealers would be more prone to domestic violence
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 09:58 AM
1

Hot, intensely narcissistic fuckbois on online dating apps ruin it for the rest of us
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 09:55 AM
1

And I assume you wouldn't mind a guy sleeping with 30-40 escorts in his 20s. He's just "sleeping with different types of women to see what he likes". No issues!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 09:51 AM
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And we all thought women cared about those things as well, but we learned they only do after age 30. Before that it's chad-chasing time.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 12:04 AM
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It's legal in Australia and places in Europe and there are issues but on the whole I think it's positive. Men are more relaxed with more options
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 12:01 AM
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I dont think for most of these men or any men sex is the only motivating factor in life but for men sex is like air, you notice it way more when you arent getting any.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 11:56 PM
1

Im a man but I would say sleep with escorts. Reason being when you're looking for a serious relationship in your 30s women won't care what you did when you were 19
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 11:01 PM
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I didn't know I will move my reply
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 11:00 PM
1

I think it adds value to the discussion
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 10:50 PM
12

Umm just don't tell your future dates? Why should his sexual past matter?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 03:59 PM
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This is true and can get ugly/sad guys a girl once in awhile, but most people meet via online dating now where looks are 95% of success. Chads are going on 4 dates a week (I know one who lives in NYC this is 100% true) from online dating and the whole "be social" strategy might get you 1 date a month at best. Ugly guys have reason to complain.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 03:41 PM
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The hard work of getting plastic surgery to look like the men's magazine guys... My friend got hair transplant and facial work done and now gets 10x the matches in online dating.. it's not rocket science
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 03:15 PM
1

Im a man but I would say sleep with escorts. Reason being when you're looking for a serious relationship in your 30s women won't care what you did when you were 19
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 02:54 PM
1

Why do you want the government to control what women can do with their bodies? Do you think abortion should be legal?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 03:35 PM
11

Age matters a lot as well. Women want nice guys when they are older.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 03:33 PM
2

lol they know how to have a good time at other people's expense because they are bullies or assholes. You're defending jerks in this very post.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 03:30 PM
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I think a part of it is the selfishness aspect as well. Women like to feel nice and altruistic so if the other party in the relationship is the selfish asshole it's like they can feel like they are getting the benefits of being a selfish asshole without actually doing the things (because their partner is). Like how everyone wants a cut throat lawyer. Yea he's a jerk but he's working for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 03:29 PM
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you can say only in brothels that have to be licensed and regulated. it's not hard you just dont want it to be legal
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 12:06 AM
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Women do not have an advantage in dating. They do... in their 20s. after 35 men have the upper hand. it evens out over time. Women are right to push back on this point all the men here are just young.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 12:02 AM
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not true it's a very tight labor market there are tons of low wage job openings women can do instead if they prefer. We're talking about legalizing it in America there are lots of jobs available here.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 11:04 PM
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well most whiny incels are american as far as i can tell. I dont have a source but women dont have a source for "nothing changed" other than their perception where prostitution is legalized.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 10:20 PM
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how is prostitution stripping bodily autonomy no one is forcing them to do it
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 10:15 PM
0

Okay skyrocketed was wrong but it has gone up. "A 2017 study found that frequency of marijuana use by students increased significantly after recreational legalization and that increase was especially large for females and for Black and Hispanic students" from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Effects\_of\_legalized\_cannabis
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 10:15 PM
2

where do you live?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 06:23 PM
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No one is requiring them to participate they are free to reject any suitors they don't want to engage with
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 06:22 PM
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The number of people using marijuana has skyrocketed since it was made legal. I think the same would happen with prostitutes. I think it would help America chill the fuck out so naturally it will never be made legal
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 06:20 PM
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And guys are more chilled out in most of those countries
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 06:18 PM
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The solution is make it safer, not make it illegal
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 06:17 PM
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People love to say "nothing would change," but that's not true. In countries where it's legal, guys are more chilled out in general and people have more relaxed attitudes around sex. Women don't think anything has changed because guys don't go around yelling they see prostitutes. I know some guys in Australia who did.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 06:15 PM
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Where you live is 90% of it - Move to a big east coast city the ratio is waaaaay better for guys (NYC, boston, etc). West coast/midwest/south numbers are bad for guys. The number 1 thing that matters is be hot (hair, face, teeth, skin - get hair transplant, skin treatment, tan, plastic surgery, tats, whatever). Take good pics, catch the smile right in pics. Also, be hot. Be normal, or learn to act normal. Be normal, but talkative. don't start being weird until you're deep in the relationship if …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 05:22 PM
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I said this in another thread but a good way to go about it is to actually be looking for a relationship but be really picky. there's nothing wrong with dating for a bit and saying it's not going to work and maybe you have sex a few times as well. The way of not lying to women is to actually be open to the idea of a relationship (which maybe you would be the right gal) but be super picky. Maintain your power, don't commit for life just cause you left together a few times. Also date multiple wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 12:56 AM
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In women's brains there are lots of girls open to casual sex and they are also open too if the "right guy come along". In practice it's a very small minority of girls who do. like i said it's much easier to actually look for a relationship but be super picky.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 12:45 AM
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I would say actually it's not confidence it's more not caring about getting rejected. Any guy that's willing to get rejected 100 times per lay will get laid a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 12:43 AM
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I think this is pretty bad advice actually. For a short, ugly guy getting laid from bar/club environment is brutally hard and in my experience women are very superficial in these places when they want to hook-up. it's far better I think to actually look for a long term relationship but just be really picky. Collect hook-ups while trying to date. You can be honest say "actually I'm really picky"
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 12:40 AM
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in my experience I haven't seen guys get laid a lot from unabashed confidence. I have seen guys get laid a lot by "dating" and saying "I don't know what I'm looking for" and then they break things off in a few weeks after they've hooked up saying "i'm not really feeling this." i don't know if they're lying to themselves but a good way is actually look for a relationship but just be really picky and collect hook-ups along the way.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 12:35 AM
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I love when women admit this. "some guys just arent meant for Casual game". Great so those guys just wont ever have sex outside of a relationship. And prostitution is "highly immoral" also. Women leave guys like this with no options.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 12:26 AM
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plenty of high end escorts/sugar babies/gold diggers who have lots of options but choose that line of work. it is also mutual and based on consent if you go that route.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 07:55 AM
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"can get sex" lol literally all women can have as much random sex as they want.. it's an act of restraint not to for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 07:54 AM
1

most guys feel the same about high n count women
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 05:04 AM
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it's a huge difference as well when a guy is with a high n count woman vs a normal woman too. massive difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 05:03 AM
1

fair enough. but you would agree that a short, ugly guy who pays for an extremely attractive escort he could never land in real life is not immoral?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 02:34 AM
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It changes with age. Older women have less options. They start going for much older guys. Everyone here is 19 that's the problem lol
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 02:14 AM
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This is very true for the settling down stage of life. At least for me. however a lot of people want to sleep around a bit first which is fine. That's where it gets messy. Men have to lie/get in relationships they dont want just to get laid and so everything becomes a game.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 02:11 AM
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And it feels great with an escort. Casual sex hookup is an exchange of hotness. Both people only see value in the other's body. It is mutual. sex with an excort is an exchange of hotness for money. It is also mutual.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 02:00 AM
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Yes they enjoy using mens bodies. Same as men who see escorts.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 01:22 AM
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I was providing proof that some are. i never said all. There's literally an escort in this thread who likes her job. How about sugar babies/gold diggers? Do you think they are desperate and exploited?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 01:20 AM
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yes the question is if you didn't have the option to sleep with very attractive people of the opposite sex would you pay for it. Most guys don't. You're blind if you dont see that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 01:16 AM
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i mean if you're also ugly maybe it's a match.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 01:12 AM
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I said "maybe worldwide but not in western countries" and then provided a study about a western country. I never said it applied to the whole world. Okay replace prostitute with western sugar baby. Are they still exploited and desperate? a lot of women like sex and just think "hell I can make money doing this also"
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 12:30 AM
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it's equivalent in ease of access. Ugly women have access to hot guys who will just sleep with them. A lot of them take advantage of that and are sacrificing morals to obtain pleasure. Prostitute conjures the image of 3rd world women, but replace it with "sugar baby". Still bad? It's the same thing a guy is sacrificing morals to obtain pleasure. Many people do and amount/length of time they engaged in such behavior matters more than anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 12:21 AM
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I'm sorry you disagree with data
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 12:08 AM
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Someone who's poor, ugly, and 5'4" would have to work their entire lives to get enough money/status to be sleeping with extremely attractive women. you don't see how it's easier to pay a high end escort?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 12:02 AM
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You can't understand wanting to sleep with a super attractive person? lol are you human?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 11:58 PM
1

nice!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 11:57 PM
1

well then you should have no problem with men who judge women for their past
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 11:57 PM
1

well a lot of guys don't share that experience but congrats to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 11:55 PM
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Similarly, High n count women shows how they feel about sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 11:54 PM
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Replace prostitute with western sugar baby. Still a problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 11:53 PM
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Having casual sex turns sex into a commodity in a very similar way. People are not looking for intrinsic values with casual sex they just want to use someone's body. Everyone is allowed to have their own opinions and if men decide that women who engage in casual sex are extremely immoral that is perfectly acceptable just as women are allowed to see men who use prostitutes as immoral. Instead of saying prostitute (which conjures up images of poor, third world women), lets say sugar baby. Still im…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 11:49 PM
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They are equivalent in the sense that it is easy access to sex with a variety of attractive people. Most men do not have that. Women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 11:46 PM
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Casual sex makes sex a commodity. apps have commodified relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 11:41 PM
1

how about we stop shaming sex workers like you are? ever consider that's why some don't like it?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 11:39 PM
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You have to be a pretty big stud to sleep with lots of extremely attractive women lol. Especially if you're short and ugly. you can pay for sex with very attractive women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 11:35 PM
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https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/20722786/. A lot do. Now imagine if they weren't shamed by society....
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 11:33 PM
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Your argument makes no sense. I like to program... i would program for fun.. however I also get paid shit tons to program. Doesn't mean I hate my job?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 11:32 PM
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Okay and how about a woman who using dating apps but tries to trade sex for relationships when she doesn't really like the sex. is the guy immoral for hooking up with her? how is supposed to know?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 11:31 PM
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that's totally acceptable. so i assume you didn't sleep around very much then?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 11:27 PM
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Maybe worldwide but not in western countries. Also they are heavily judged by society contributes a lot to why they want to quit. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/20722786/
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 11:26 PM
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agreed should be safe, high end ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 11:17 PM
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Add in justin Beiber
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 11:16 PM
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Exactly how men feel about high n count women. Instead of killing their low self esteem and urge they hooked up with another tinder chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 11:14 PM
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Sure but lets say one of those guys was like "yea i slept with 40 or 50 prostitutes in my 20s" but it was 15 years ago
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 11:14 PM
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If a man is a 5 he likely can score with a 5. if he pays for sex he could sleep with a 9 or 10. They aren't "having trouble getting laid"
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 11:13 PM
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Men can pay for sex with women much more attractive than they could get in the regular dating market. it's easy to understand. They could likely get free sex with uglier women or by pretending to want a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 11:10 PM
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Most men can't get a variety of sex with very attractive women. is that hard to understand?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 11:09 PM
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good take. Everyone goes through phases.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 11:08 PM
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And most men would prefer a woman who's only slept with 2-3 guys vs 50 tinder f-boys
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 11:07 PM
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And most men don't want to date high n count women. Totally fine everyone is allowed their standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 11:05 PM
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This is a cop out there are plenty of high end escorts who have many options but still choose their current profession.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 11:04 PM
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This is a cop out there are plenty of high end escorts who have many options but still choose their current profession.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 11:03 PM
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I respect your consistency. Sounds like it legit doesn't matter for you
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 06:42 PM
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Men don't "want to know". That's why they don't ask. But if they found out and it was a lot higher than they expected they might be very uncomfortable, which is their right. I would applaud a woman who didn't lie and up front said "yea ive had a lot of partners." But women don't because they know it matters. Follow-up: What if you found out the guy you're with had slept with 50 or so prostitutes before you were together. Does it matter? Why is that different?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 08:53 PM
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But if those guys actually knew they would care... that's the point. it does matter. the men are scared to ask because they like the woman and they dont want to know and the women dont volunteer because they know it matters. If something truly doesnt matter then women would share that information freely.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 08:08 PM
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No shit. that's why men prioritize looks in relationship so much because that's all the sex they're going to get.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 07:32 PM
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They absolutely care they are just scared to know lol. Why don't you just volunteer the info if you're so convinced they don't care?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 07:29 PM
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Sounds good next guy you get involved with just straight up tell him the number. Volunteer that information if you're so confident all these mature men don't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 07:29 PM
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Why dont poor people in America just work harder or move to a third world country? You can see how dumb this argument is when you apply it to other things.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 11:04 AM
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This is because for men, this is the only sex he will get so yes looks play a very important role in a relationship. For women, they could easily go hook up with tons of much hotter guys so for her the relationship aspects are more important.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 10:54 AM
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was it the same when you were 20 though? Women at 30 are looking for long term partners not short term flings that's the difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 10:47 AM
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not true at all. nowhere near the level of convenience and quality as europe/australia
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 10:56 AM
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prostitution is not easily accessible/risky in America so it's very hard to tell why they are on dating apps
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 10:54 AM
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If more guys knew about this I bet they would move. Getting the word out might really help solve the issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 10:31 AM
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The thing is most guys dont know about these ratios. If they knew I bet more would move. East coast cities are much better for men. So just getting the word out could help a lot
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 10:29 AM
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42% of men 18-24 get almost no sex (like once a year at most or less) from your own previous sources. From the source you just provided 51% of men 18-29 are single while only 32% of women. At least another 25% of men in their 20s are in relationships with women they aren't that into just to get laid. it evens out over time but for young men it's much harder.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 03:43 AM
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best option: see escorts/sex workers while trying to improve yourself. They are all super attractive and really great people most of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 03:36 AM
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there is a high degree of mental illness in that group so naturally they are more likely to shoot people
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 03:34 AM
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Every incel i've seen is either ugly or has severe mental issues.. doesn't mean they are wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 03:33 AM
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Tons of rapper say horrific things about women.. i see very little hate for them from women as a group
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 03:32 AM
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incels overlap with mental illness so naturally you're going to have more shooters from that group
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 03:30 AM
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nah men's biggest problems are suicides, drug overdoses, homelessness and mental illness but you're right women have it tuff
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 03:24 AM
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they will usually find someone eventually and settle with the first decently attractive woman who looks at them. It gets way easier for men over time i see it I'm in my mid 30s now. However they might be resentful at never having gotten to sleeep around
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 10:22 AM
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Well currently high profile escorts or sugar babies charging for sex is illegal in the US so let's start with that then since we both agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 12:38 PM
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Because society judges them and you make less over time of course they start to dislike it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 12:35 PM
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Agree but I would argue even with UBI some women would choose to be prostitues and make a ton of money.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 12:33 PM
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Women who are too poor to do anything else are not qualified to be prostitutes. in the same way they aren't qualified to be doctors. That's the way it should be treated.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 12:32 PM
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There are plenty of women who freely would choose to make a shit ton of money being prostitutes. Even more if it wasnt shamed and stigmatized.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 12:28 PM
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So how about only citizen women of first world countries in licensed brothels? Let's both support that!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 12:25 PM
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it's a job. most people are lukewarm about their job
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 12:22 PM
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So why don't you advocate for what I said? Just citizen women and only licensed brothels. Let's both support that!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 12:22 PM
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No sympathy needed once prostitution is legalized
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 12:19 PM
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And most guys don't want to date a woman who slept with guys out of her league on tinder. Like she just slept with him and he wanted nothing to do with her afterwards? disgusting
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 12:15 PM
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And you can always switch to not being a prostitute.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 12:12 PM
1

So mcdonalds is slavery.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 12:12 PM
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How about only citizen women in first world countries then? They all have plenty of other options for work.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 12:10 PM
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Easy. Only licensed brothels. Only citizen women working. Randomly checked by police to ensure compliance. In a first world country citizen women have many options for work so they must be choosing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 12:03 PM
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I agree we should regulate prostitution so we know women aren't forced into it. Then all problems are solved right?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 11:59 AM
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it's not coercive like violent rape. Almost all women who choose prostitution have other options. They just make far less money with those other options..
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 11:55 AM
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do you want to hang around at work after hours for fun?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 11:54 AM
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they want to "exit at some point" but that's built into prostitution. no one is hiring 50 year old prostitutes. Of course they all have an exit plan. that article is dumb and biased.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 11:53 AM
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So let's make the "trafficked underage girls" part illegal and the rest of it legal?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 11:43 AM
1

Agreed. Those men are awful and abortion should be totally legal.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 11:40 AM
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And men who have sex with women they don't really want to from dating apps but that is their only option also experience it as rape, scientifically.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 11:39 AM
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All work under capitalism is exploitation
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 11:31 AM
1

we all want real emotions!! Some people just want a bit of casual first...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 11:30 AM
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It's very likely she's lonely and vunerable if you hook up with her from a dating app. Whereas a professional escort in a first world country probably has the emmotional resilience to deal with her job or she'd choose to do something else.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 11:28 AM
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Exactly everyone is free to have their own preferences. The difference is in America it's very hard to find a woman who hasn't engaged in casual sex whereas it's super easy to find a guy who hasn't seen prostitues (because it's illegal).
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 11:26 AM
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I choose not to infantilize women. They know exactly what they are doing when they sleep with hot rich guys out of their league.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 11:23 AM
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Let's take an escort in Britain who makes 100-200 pounds per hour. Is there really no other jobs in fucking Britain she could do to afford food? Waitress, shop worker, bartender, deliver food, etc? Nothing?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 11:18 AM
1

So you have never participated in casual sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 11:16 AM
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Most guys can get women. They just can't get incredibly attractive women for no strings attached sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 11:11 AM
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if the guy doesn't want to commit he's not attracted to anything except your flesh tube.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 11:07 AM
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The difference is (if you're in America) very few guys have slept with prostitutes, whereas most modern women have had casual sex. So in current American society it's very easy for you to meet your preference but very difficult for the average guy who doesn't want someone who's slept around.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 11:06 AM
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How does it change nothing? Men who want a purely sexual experience with an attractive woman have access to that. In America the only option is lie on tinder.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 10:59 AM
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In the same way that women learn sleeping with guys way more attractive than them is empty and pointless. The difference is women have access to that experience whereas men in countries where prostitution is illegal do not.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 10:53 AM
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i don't know what "giga-stacy" is... lol stupid term.. but escorts in europe are 4-5 points higher in looks rating than i could ever get for casual sex in the states. And very affordable.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 10:51 AM
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It's not a revenge fantasy. Normal guys just want to hook up with some very attractive women before getting married and all that. What's wrong with that? Most modern women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 10:45 AM
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Prostitutes do not replace relationships. They allow non-chad men to sleep with attractive women in a non-commital way. Most people want to sleep around before they settle down. For women this is easy. For guys it's very difficult. Everyone wants to settle down and find a relationship at some point.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 10:44 AM
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The funny thing is there are other solutions to sex trafficking but they never want to talk about those. Like, how about only state licensed brothels and only legal citizens can be sex workers with frequent checks by law enforcement? How about tripling the enforcement of trafficking? No that's never the solution, it's always it HAS to be illegal.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 10:32 AM
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I would never visit a prostitute I knew was forced into it. However I also won't play the "but how could you ever TRULY know??" game.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 10:22 AM
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And no one cares about vulnerable men: see migrant workers, addicts, homeless, drug addicts, war cannon fodder, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 10:20 AM
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I'm not totally buying that it goes up because of demand. I've seen the study I think it goes up because if two countries are next to each other and in one place it's legal and one place it's not, naturally everyone will just go next door where it's legal. If you make it illegal everywhere I think demand would jump back
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 10:16 AM
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Prostitution being legal would HELP women in the dating world. Why? Because every guy on fucking bumble would actually want a relationship and not just want sex.. or not pretend to want a relationship just to get laid. That's what women claim they want right? A lot of people want to have casual sex with attractive people before they settle down. For women this is incredibly easy.. just go on tinder.. For 90% of guys it's pretty much impossible. So they spend 10 years trying to get lucky, manipul…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 10:12 AM
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be as hot as humanly possible and then be verrry friendly/chatty and talk to as many different people/women as you can until you find someone who responds well.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 10:32 AM
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I mean you want both and they both come from the same place (dates) lol. You have to be able to get dates whether you want hookups or relationships. You will get far fewer dates by being honest about just wanting hook ups.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 10:28 AM
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Sad.. you'd think everyone would want the best connection they could get..
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 10:18 AM
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it's not a wall but women's pool of dating options shrinks as she gets older. No it's not all women but a smaller and smaller percentage of women are attractive physically at each age level and having a family is not possible once a woman reaches a certain age.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 10:16 AM
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Younger women do. 42% of men 24 and under have almost no sex
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 05:37 AM
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you're seeing a small percentage of people. Also when I walk on unis I don't see as many couples as you'd expect. 42% of men under 24 have almost no sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 05:34 AM
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42% of men 18-24 get almost no sex (like once a year at most or less)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 05:25 AM
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the juice isn't worth the squeeze for most men to commit in a serious way.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 05:17 AM
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the incompetent dudes are hawt
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 04:55 AM
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It changes with age. Men are absolutely the gatekeepers after 40. You can tell men have more power in the dating pool because even average guys date 5-10 years younger. Young guys need to stop complaining and work on themselves or be patient.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 04:52 AM
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42% are having sex never or rarely... there's your redpill/youtube audience lol
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 11:50 AM
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Proof would be your data showing 42% of men under 24 get almost nothing. What do you think happens then? They realize they have to get in a relationship to get anything so they settle for something. Young men in their 20s should use escorts/prostitutes until they are in their 30s and have market power. You are right there is a lot more to life than sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 11:30 AM
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Life isn't fair. The poor, dumb, sick, 3rd world country people just need to try harder!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 11:27 AM
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So 18-24 42% of men get almost no sex. Then 24-28 they are in a shit relationship just to get something. then when they hit 30 women are finally ready to settle it's exactly what TRP says your data shows it. The portion of men who get literally nothing (incels) is small but for most men in their 20s it sucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 11:19 AM
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so 42% of men 18-24 having almost no sex is not a problem. got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 11:13 AM
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okay still 1/3 is still a lot and if you see the trend the number is going up over time
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 09:30 AM
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okay well i think you're one of the few women taht wouldn't judge a guy for getting something like jaw implants but yea if it looks good and you can hide it why not
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 09:27 AM
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1/3 men under 30 not getting laid: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D205FUnU8AI6FyY.jpg. Another 10% are probably lying
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 12:33 AM
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1/3 men under 30 not getting laid: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D205FUnU8AI6FyY.jpg. Another 10% are probably lying
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 12:31 AM
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So you want to live in a society where young men are taking high doses or steroids and getting plastic surgeries got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 12:30 AM
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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D205FUnU8AI6FyY.jpg. Also have to remember men lie up and women lie down on these surveys.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 12:27 AM
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yes 30% of men having no sex is not a problem at all you're right.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 12:26 AM
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yea same could be said for older women i guess. they should really all get face lifts, body lifts, mommy make overs, tons of surgery if they want to still have options. They need to start doing surgeries if they want options just like young ugly guys
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 12:20 AM
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botox/plastic surgery doesn't work that well for guys because they need bones not less wrinkles. go look up jaw/cheek implants and tell me how they look. Note they also might have to be removed later and are super likely to get infected because they are near the mouth. Skin is also harder to mask/fix because men are judged super harshly for wearing makeup. I'll give you hair transplant/hairline maintenance.. that one actually makes sense. Still doesn't fix height, race, penis size.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 08:58 PM
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so you would date a guy who had jaw and cheek implants, got botox every 3 months and wore makeup? If you found out later that he did those things would you feel misled? How would your friends feel if they found out?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 07:53 PM
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oh yea i agree it's super hard to find a fwb as a guy, but a separate site wouldn't help it would 95% guys on there lol
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 07:42 PM
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Men can have general confidence about life and 0 confidence with women that happens all the time. The reason is they get bad responses, which equals less confidence with women, which equals worse responses. There's very few guys that can have a lot of confidence with women if they're getting horrible responses repeatedly. It just doesn't work like that. They start to get better responses when they're older, have money, seem more stable/career and women are more interested in having a family, and…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 07:34 PM
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of course they will still have options.. just less. Most older women just choose to be single rather than accept their options.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 10:01 AM
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umm... every guy is fine with that.. lol no need for a special site
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 09:57 AM
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I think things are more unequal with the rise of internet/OLD but yes of course all that stuff is good and helps just be careful with steroids dude
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 09:52 AM
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You really think most women are going to be cool if they find out a guy has jaw or cheek implants lol. it sounds nuts
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 09:34 AM
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How would mentors help? Mentors came from a differnet time when shit like this mattered less. Women judge more on factors that cannot be changed though without hardcore surgery. Jawline, height, race, hairline, etc. What you're suggesting is that men "change", which is fine, but men in the 90s didn't wear makeup and get plastic surgery to attract women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 09:42 PM
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I agree to an extent, but most of the time these women think they will get a relationship out of him.. (i.e. i would still call it relationship sex). It is extremely difficult for an average guy to get a fwb relationship with a woman that's not significantly less attractive than him. Or you just act kinda shitty and lead women on hinting at a relationship.. which I never liked to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 09:01 PM
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Once you've been together a while, you've built up a bond and a shared universe and it's very different from just meeting someone and deciding if you want to date them. Sure but that shared universe/bond better have some depth to it because a successful guys' value is going up whereas a woman is losing her looks. That's why women should choose a guy they have a strong genuine connection that goes deeper than superficiality. Think if the situation was flipped: women were getting hotter and hotter…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 09:46 AM
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Genuine connection: Shared worldview, shared religion/spirituality, shared values, similar intellectual level, similar politics, personality type match, ability to talk for hours, respect for each other's accomplishments, shared hobbies, etc. If the women is the type to prioritize looks, status, money vs connection she's probably dating the type of guy who prioritizes looks vs genuine connection. And guess what the equation changes in 30 years, especially if the guy gets much more success/wealth…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 01:56 AM
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Maybe. The power to delude oneself is amazing. It's probably more like there is a tiny connection but they could have a much better connection with a less attractive person. They cling to that tiny connection because she is hot. Like that old expression: 'It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it.'
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 07:42 PM
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I agree. But it's female privilege to be able to engage in casual sex with people more attractive than themselves. Not all of them want that of course, but for those that do, even for just a few months, it is privilege.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 07:34 PM
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superficial: prioritizing looks, status, or money in men vs genuine connection narcissistic: viewing one's partner as an extension of one's own identity and thus desiring a partner to be a certain way (usually superficial) because that "says something about me". Like "I'm the type of girl that dates football players." The "tingles" are cold and calculated despite not appearing so because women will only allow themselves to feel tingles for guys that meet the superficial standards. This is easies…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 07:29 PM
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Yea the way you're describing it is the way women experience it but that doesn't mean their decisions can't be analyzed.. and guess what upon analysis they're usually based on superficial, narcissistic standards and they are cold and calculating despite doing their best not to appear so. This is a debate sub, we're allowed to analyze societal trends and the underlying reasons why people make decisions without the handwaving away of men's experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 09:48 AM
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i mean these are generalizations and don't apply to everyone. glad it's going well for you!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 09:30 AM
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totally. there are wonderful men and women out there that aren't narcissistic psychos
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 07:27 AM
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i think all humans are valuable. SMV value perhaps is what i meant. But yes rich men / men with status often trade that for a younger, typically very attractive woman. Example: hollywood.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 06:52 AM
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okay you've convinced me I do agree that is maturing however it doesn't change the thing guys resent which is that a woman actually probably wishes her past boyfriends who were better than you stuck around.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 05:51 AM
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There is no problem... it's just not maturing... it's settling.. which I guess is sort of mature so maybe you're right lol but women delude themselves thinking they've "changed" and now that's what they "actually want" which is a lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 04:36 AM
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that's what libertarians want! Just like women's view of the sexual marketplace. Complete freedom!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 04:34 AM
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sort of except women's value goes down while men goes up (to some degree). Why most rich guys marry younger.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 04:31 AM
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Agreed. Lets cut all assistance to single moms. They should have vetted.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 04:29 AM
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"And then you realize". All women can enjoy casual sex and have that realization. Very few men can
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 04:28 AM
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Poor analogy because if women could get the alpha rich guy when they're older they would. They can't because those guys go younger, so next best for their family goals are rich guys who are nerds. It's not maturing if you'd still take the same thing if you could get it lol
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 04:12 AM
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even if only 5% are virgins women have a shit ton more experience by the time they're 30 than guys. I would estimate the average woman has had more relationships and gone on maybe 50-100 more dates than an average 30 year old guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 04:09 AM
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they dont cheat. they've already had all the sex they could ever want before they settled down. no need.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 04:07 AM
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If women could get the alpha rich guy when they're older they would (and sometimes do). They can't because those guys go younger, so next best for their family goals are rich guys who are nerds. It's not maturing if you'd still take the same thing if you could get it lol
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 04:04 AM
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my type of gal :)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 04:03 AM
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Poor analogy because if women could get the alpha rich guy when they're older they would. They can't because those guys go younger, so next best for their family goals are rich guys who are nerds. It's not maturing if you'd still take the same thing if you could get it lol
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 04:03 AM
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I think toons of guys fall under the spell of an especially hot woman that's interested in them without realizing most of it is due to the woman's looks. I think that's actually kind of an innocent mistake vs my narcissitic psycho dude friends that refuse to set their dating age on apps above 5 years younger than them or women who say "I only date rich guys". The more preconditions to love the more you shouldn't be surprised when your partner leaves when the calculation changes.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 03:49 AM
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yes if he's older that's already a red flag
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 03:41 AM
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there is a bit of group back and forth though. Feminism encourages women to collectively do X then perhaps the manosphere should encourage men to collectively do Y
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 03:40 AM
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young women almost exclusively value men based on appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 03:39 AM
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young women almost universally consider men disposable
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 03:37 AM
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if 50% of people divorce why should she be able to expect it wont happen?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 03:31 AM
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what if marriage vows not for life?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 03:28 AM
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what if he gets way more successful? That wasnt guarenteed.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 03:27 AM
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I feel like this subreddit and TRP expose exactly how cold and calculating young women are... certainly some of them are and feminism says "get the best you can girl be ruthless". if they actually acted like you said there wouldn't be a problem but if they are cold and calculating why shouldn't older men be when their value goes up? You're gaslighting young men who feel like women are cold and calculating
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 03:26 AM
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Right so why can't a man's precondition be "I'll bond with you at this level of success, but if I get more successful I will seek a bond with a more attractive woman?" The older man equivalent of monkey branching
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 03:23 AM
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i love how women are all about freedom when it's the sexual marketplace. How about no welfare or assistance for single moms, no child support, no pregnancy time off, no child tax credit, no alimony, no equal pay, no low-income daycare, allowing companies to discriminate against hiring women who might get pregnant. That would be real freedom.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 03:19 AM
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There's a lot of dumbs guys (and women love them if they're hawt) out there maybe they genuinely don't know they're shallow
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 03:16 AM
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well it's looking at things in a very transactional way which I dont like but I think the argument is if a guy and girl get married a guy is assuming a girl will age and a girl is assuming X level of success out of a guy. Lots of women divorce guys who lose their jobs so don't pretend this isn't a real life dynamic to some degree. The argument is if a guy gets way more successful (like jeff bezos) why should he be expected to stay with his wife? Like if somehow women could get way more hot would…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 03:09 AM
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why is it "he should" and not "she should". If he's much older she knows he's just into her for her youth why would she not expect him to pick up a newer model?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 03:02 AM
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what if the marriage vows weren't til death?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 03:02 AM
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Age is inevitable but becoming more successful is not.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 03:01 AM
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perfect example. tons of people sympathize with melania trump as if she's some sort of victim
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 03:00 AM
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yea I'm not judging it one way or the other, I'm just telling you why that's the case. It affects older women as well who bitch that guys want women 10 years younger.. well why do women care what those men are up to? I assume they dont want those type of guys anyways? It's because the system is not working for them either so they are effectively complaining about the system.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 08:32 PM
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Yes it's because an increasing number of men are completely invalidated in the dating market vs women. Thus they seek to criticize the system as a whole and that manifests as bitching about women they don't want (why can't these women lose weight, etc). To them the system is fucked up because they are being invalidated by it. Whereas women, especially young women, are overflowing with validation (200 tinder matches, instagram, etc) and thus they are fine with the system so they only focus on wha…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 08:04 PM
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I agree trafficking is an issue. It should only legal for women to work in brothels that have strict licensing. They should make it illegal to loan money to sex workers, illegal to hold their documents, obviously violent threats are already illegal but the threshold should but much lower to bring traffickers to court. Most legit prostitutes have decent job satisfaction: https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/how-much-prostitutes-earn-revealed-11902009 https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/20722786/
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 07:46 PM
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yea I'm saying you will have power to be choosy. which you should be.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 07:27 PM
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strange analogy but yea sort of if killing someone takes a while I think that's worse than one shot
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 08:47 AM
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agreed
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 08:44 AM
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keep hope alive man if you have a good job women will appreciate you more as they get older and want to get married.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 08:37 AM
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one is easy.. the other is hard..
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 12:20 AM
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It is 100% not rape. Women choose to do it because it pays a lot more than normal jobs. Women that work in brothels actually have good job satisfaction: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/20722786/
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 12:08 AM
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it's an artform for women
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 12:02 AM
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they will 100% find something wrong with sex robots
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 12:00 AM
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agree 100%
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 11:50 PM
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i mean why wouldn't they? It's a bit gross but people objectify others all the time. Lots of time to a woman a boyfriend is a status prop, just as objectifying.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 11:47 PM
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You realize the alternative was to actually punish traffickers right? Instead of punishing traffickers they made it illegal for men to visit sex workers to reduce trafficking. The dumbest approach to the problem they could have taken. Like instead of punishing people who speed lets just make cars illegal.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 11:43 PM
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good point
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 11:37 PM
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agree with all you guys are saying
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 11:35 PM
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women with high N counts should also be shamed then
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 11:33 PM
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"If you're ok with sleeping with someone of whom you know they wouldn't let you touch them if money wasn't involved" I agree it should be decriminalized. However plenty of women wouldn't touch men if it wasn't for either their looks or their money. That's just as transactional.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 11:32 PM
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triple the enforcement then! death penalty for traffickers!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 11:30 PM
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that's fair, but for some men, women who sleep around a lot go against their morals and they are free to reject women who've done a lot of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 11:27 PM
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It doesn't. Having a lot of casual sex means two different things for men and women
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 11:26 PM
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it can be their only source of income, they just have to be doing it of their volition and be free to stay or leave if they want. For example sex workers that work in brothels in Australia have relatively high job satisfaction: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/20722786/
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 11:23 PM
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Not true, certainly some women are forced or coerced and everybody is against that but for most of them they could have done another job - worked in a shop, hotel, etc. Sex work pays much more than a normal job that's why they choose to do it it's not their only option.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 11:17 PM
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seattle is like a 4:1 guy to girl ratio for educated people i'm sure you'll be fine. Just do not move to new york.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 07:00 AM
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i'll drink to that :)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 06:58 AM
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shit you're right I forgot people that brag on the internet are usually cool in real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 02:36 AM
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Yes it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/21 10:55 PM
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yea there's usually some element of them you find physically attractive at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/21 10:54 PM
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you seem like kind of a narcissist dude do some psychedelics
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/21 10:52 PM
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this is a huge point as well. a lot of men are socially anxious, introverted nerds, autistic/aspie, etc. Combine that with relatively ugly and it's impossible for them. Maybe they could get married eventually. But impossible to have sex ever outside of that. Think Mark Zuck
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/21 10:42 PM
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some stuff helps a lot some doesn't it's hard to say. Like most women who think "I have a really intricate advanced style" really would be fine with basic makeup and a sundress. It's probably more about consistency. You're talking about the margins, it doesn't fix fat in women and it doesn't fix short, bald, ugly, race, etc in men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/21 10:34 PM
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Due to homophobia most men dont know their attractiveness yes I agree a lot are uglier than they think. However they are also gaslit and told women "dont care that much about appearance, it's your personality buddy" endlessly so it's just confusing. Women who fail know it's 90% appearance and aren't gaslit so it's easier to accept.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/21 10:26 PM
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Several factors this post is forgetting: 1. All of this effort ugly guys have to do is just to get an eventual girlfriend, not fwb, not casual sex, just one girl eventually who's already had her fill of sex with very little effort. If an ugly guy just wants a relationship, great! If they want even 5% variety in sex this is useless. 2. Most of this "ugly guys can actually sometimes be attractive" kicks in at like 26-28 for most women. Forgetting these ugly guys have been completely ignored for a …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/21 10:22 PM
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you can totally be attracted to personality. How do you think old ugly people bang? They like each other's personality and that's enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/21 12:54 AM
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yea sort of I mean I'm much more likely to be heartbroken by a stunning girl, and I'd probably feel like i could be more of my nerdy self without being judged.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/21 12:53 AM
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you make a tc of 500k and you're complaining about women? lol just sugar date and get high end plastic surgery man easy as pie.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/21 12:51 AM
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i would say that's true if the guy is also highly intelligent or have status in a certain way. Like a dumb hot celebrity guy with status will likely marry another dumb hot celebrity with status. he's not also going for intelligence in that scenario. it's like attracts like. there are some doctor lawyer types that like the hot but dumber stay at home mom thing. you're right though these people want more than just looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/21 12:48 AM
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Wow thank you for the excellent response. You sound like a great person I truly mean that. I'm older actually and have a girl but I see a lot of guys struggle so I like to defend them. I wish you well in your dating journey.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 06:32 AM
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We haven't tried making booze illegal in 100 years. Maybe we should? Lots of innocent people dying from drunk driving. You realize also the trafficking in the EU is just going to move to countries where it's legal. If it's illegal everywhere it just moves underground it doesnt disappear. Human trafficking in Australia is estimated at 300-1000 people per year (prostitution legal). Sex trafficking into the US (prostitution illegal) 15-50k. Australia is 10x smaller in population and also an island …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 06:21 AM
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so you want guys just trying to have sex with you? LOL you women need to pick! Do you want attention from guys just trying to get laid or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 06:19 AM
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sex with a prostitute where she says "yes" is literally not rape. Please do not be a SWERF
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 12:36 AM
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it changes with age. As long as a man moves to a big city. That's why you see single 30+ men with their lives together dating 5 years younger. They have options. Older women just need to suck it up and deal with it. Sucks but this world is cold.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 12:33 AM
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how would someone know the female gaze is if they never get it due to being ugly?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 12:28 AM
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I think from tv/media/observations I felt like women were slightly superficial but you could probably talk your way into getting with them if you were given the chance to open your mouth. What I found out is that women are reallly superficial when it comes to hook-ups and talking your way into getting with them only helps slightly. Also I didn't really know what an attractive guy looked like. Also found out most women just don't have that much casual sex so chasing it was really hard. I wish I w…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 12:20 AM
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It's like applying for jobs. You can have all the standards you want but if you just send in 2 or 3 job apps and hear nothing in response what do you do?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 12:05 AM
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Right and if more guys could sleep with a few escorts they probably wouldn't be trying to just "get sex" from you and a higher % of your suitors would be looking for a relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 12:03 AM
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it's an analogy bro.. it's the same logic: no matter how much you increase enforcement there will still be innocent people killed by drunk drivers. Alcohol is not a need therefore we should make it strictly illegal right?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 12:00 AM
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responded to your other comment. thanks for posting links!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 06:35 PM
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It's more of a Europe thing but that's because it's illegal in the US. Most women get over having "just sex" very quickly because sex with attractive guys is available to them immediately when they enter the dating world. Then they learn it's not that great and want relationships afterwards. A good analogy is alcohol. Most late teens/early 20s people think drinking is amazing but eventually it loses it's appeal and people maybe just want a glass of wine with dinner. Most guys never get to try "j…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 06:34 PM
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i can respect that however women who have a lot of casual sex typically are not honest with their eventual long term partners or they seriously lie down about the true number of partners should not expect men to be honest about their encounters with escorts.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 09:38 AM
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I did a 2 minute search.. here's some evidence: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/20722786/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19026478/ Pretty sure street sex workers have it significantly worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 09:33 AM
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I don't understand your logic sorry. Do you think alcohol should be made illegal it will decrease deaths of innocent people who are killed by drunk drivers?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 09:27 AM
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Most of that research is street based sex workers I agree that should be illegal. Should be brothels or independent escorts who advertise online.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 11:24 PM
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Okay so prostitution is illegal now yay your fantasy has happened! Oh no there's still a bunch of trafficking like there is the USA what do you do???? Oh suddenly you're a fan of increasing enforcement I bet! Because.. it works?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 11:11 PM
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Do women respect the men they're in relationships with enough to tell them how many different men they've slept with and be totally honest?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 10:51 PM
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The army totally recruits people and once you're in you can't leave or face penalties once your active duty. What you're talking about is a criminal offense (threatening people at knife point). I agree we should heavily crack down on such illegal offenses. Death penalty for traffickers!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 10:50 PM
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You could have specialized units dedicated to enforcement of trafficking, high penalties for traffickers caught (most of them don't serve very much jail time). My point is women always want to make prostitution illegal rather than increase enforcement. It's like saying a good way to decrease drunk driving deaths is make alcohol completely illegal. That's a great solution for people who don't drink, but for those who do it seems absurd
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 10:47 PM
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I have a lot of respect for black men/women because they seem more honest in dating. Black women are just like "yea I want a masculine, big dude with muscles who's rich, etc". White women are waaay more gaslighty because they can't own up to their own superficiality/desires.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 06:03 AM
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maybe more respectful because they're not just in it for sex because they could see an escort?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 05:52 AM
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It's not validating it's just a physical release. Men will still go after women for relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 05:51 AM
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Thank you for your input I've been curious about men's experience who actually lived in germany.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 05:49 AM
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this is like saying "why should abortion be legal if you drive down any back ally or search the internet you can easily find ways to have an abortion". Prostitution should be available, convenient, legal, and safe for all parties.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 05:46 AM
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i'm pro sex worker but everyone should care about others.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 05:44 AM
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men probably wouldn't be open about going I imagine.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 05:43 AM
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Yes but if men could get laid whenever they'd want they'd probably focus more on real connections in dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 05:41 AM
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Or maybe the woman just wanted to make a lot more money in France than poland? Ever do that? move for a job?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 05:39 AM
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yea let them unionize!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 05:37 AM
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Are you a man or a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 05:36 AM
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And they will learn that if they see a few prostitutes.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 05:35 AM
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So let men learn that themselves? Why shouldn't they be free to learn that?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 05:34 AM
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we should also make welfare illegal, benefits for poor, homeless shelters illegal, drug rehabilitation centers illegal. If those people can't "level up" their lives they get what they deserve!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 05:32 AM
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do you think women at the bunny ranch are trafficked? That's what we're talking about there. Trafficking is still super illegal and we should crack down on it. Death penalty for traffickers.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 05:30 AM
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they need to be free to make their own decisions. You can't tell them what to do with their bodies.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 05:26 AM
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you don't need to produce more willing women. the price just needs to go up. Most victims of trafficking are workers exploited for labor. Nobody wants trafficking.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 05:23 AM
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Exactly women are always complaining about how much "just want sex". That would go away if it were legal/destigmatized. Then everyone can just patiently look for relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 05:20 AM
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There's plenty of critique of that study. see this vox article: https://www.vox.com/2015/8/18/9166669/why-legalize-prostitution. Also, making it illegal in one country but not the country fucking next door of course everybody is just going to move. If you make it illegal in all of Europe I bet it just goes underground. Also why don't we just double enforcement on trafficking? Triple it! Death penalty for traffickers. Lets police it until it's 0 give these women all the resources they need to mak…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 05:17 AM
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So let's crack down on trafficking! Double the enforcement!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 04:54 AM
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Agreed we should also get rid of all homeless shelters, welfare, drug rehabilitation centers, benefits to the poor. If they can't find a job they should use their big primate brain to figure it out!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 04:46 AM
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drop some research I'll read it! Also perhaps we should make being in the army illegal, being an emergency physician illegal, being a cop illegal. All those jobs cause PTSD so we should get rid of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 04:42 AM
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are you also for making all scenarios of 3rd world men working in 1st world countries illegal? They are usually extremely exploited. By your definition they would be slaves. Instead of cracking down on exploitation all men traveling to do jobs should be made illegal.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 05:36 PM
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Ah there it is. Women think men should have to compete and improve themselves to get sex. All men who don't are losers. The lack of empathy is astonishing
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 05:28 PM
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And you should be sent to jail if your iPhone was found to use 3rd world migrant labor
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 05:20 PM
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Right so if it were legal/regulated/non-stigmatized in America most men would try it for a bit, realize sex sucks without an emotional connection, and move on precisely like women do with casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 05:18 PM
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It is tied to harm, like many things, but also helps men get their needs met. Women don't see it as helpful, because they don't understand those needs, so to them it's all harm. The focus can be on reducing that harm without making it illegal.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 05:11 PM
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great so do most men! let's triple the enforcement of trafficking and invest in resources for sex workers!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 05:02 PM
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so why are they never about doubling the enforcement of trafficking and increasing resources for workers it's always punish men?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 04:57 PM
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And there are next to 0 people who would be a janitor.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 04:53 PM
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There is no supply/demand mismatch. If there is less supply, like with everything else, the price should go up. That article is from 8 years ago and things have improved: https://search.coe.int/directorate_of_communications/Pages/result_details.aspx?ObjectId=090000168094f6c2. Should we make it illegal for 3rd world men to work a job in a first world country because they might be exploited or try to crack down on exploitation?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 04:45 PM
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How about having 2x the amount of enforcement? Why is "make it totally illegal" the only option ever? The actual number of cases of trafficking is very small. 330k patients in the U.S. and Europe die from prescription drugs each year why don't we make pharmacetuical drugs illegal to prevent all those deaths?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 04:02 PM
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It's mainly due to menopause. Facial aging accelerates in women dramatically during menopause. I'm all for finding solutions though older women in my experience are a lot more fun to be with than younger women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 03:17 PM
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good logic!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 03:13 PM
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if a woman has other job opportunities (can be a waitress, work in a store, drive an uber, etc) and chooses to be an escort there is no financial coercion.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 04:10 AM
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have rape implies no consent. that is literally the definition of rape. if a women says "yes I will sleep with you for money" that is the definition of consent lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 12:42 AM
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how is it different than a girl being attracted to a guy cause he's rich and sleeping with him? Same thing if he didn't have the money she wouldn't do it...
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 12:40 AM
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i agree with i wasn't saying that she said that i was saying it's the same logic: "a small % of women put 6ft or over in tinder bio thus all women are bad". "a small % of men are rapists therefore all men are bad"
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 12:16 AM
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i wasn't saying you said that i was saying it's the same logic: "a small % of women put 6ft or over in tinder bio thus all women are bad". "a small % of men are rapists therefore all men are bad"
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 12:14 AM
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probably not wait til 40 start trying late 20s. Build yourself up, money, looks, status, also sleep with escorts you're not missing anything. you have to move to a big coastal city though you can't pull this off in a small town.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 11:38 PM
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legalize prostitution in America
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 11:03 PM
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agree completely
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 10:54 PM
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At the end of it I don't actually think women have dating/relationship privilege. The thing is they do massively when they are young. But once they're like 40+ men have the advantage. That's why every 50 year old guy is dating 5+ years younger. If you are a 35+ male with a good job who takes moderate care of yourself move to NYC and you will have tons of options. Most young ugly dudes should just chill, get high, bang some escorts and wait til they're older.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 10:49 PM
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No welfare for single moms, no pregnancy time off, no child tax credit, no alimony, no low-income daycare, allowing companies to discriminate against hiring women who might get pregnant. That's the real freedom we need
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 10:36 PM
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97% of rapists are men therefore all men are rapists. In a comment on this very same post: https://reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/o23mg7/women_uphold_toxic_masculinity_in_dating_more/h25337p/
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 10:30 PM
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true true but she still had to meet those booty calls in real life. And those booty calls weren't algorithmically perfect matches. I agree with you guys should be partying and socializing and it will help but the game has changed and the pool of guys women have easy access to is much larger. I think generally speaking there's less freebies for ugly guys than there used to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 08:57 AM
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a lot of women at least try casual sex or will get into shitty relationships with hot guys where the main priority is sex and it definitely wont last. Women grow out of it because they've had their fill. Not all women do this but a good portion do. This is a privilege men do not have. Also just because you don't want to do something doesn't mean having the option is not a privilege. Not all white men voted in 1850. Some probably said "I dont even want to vote, it's annoying and I don't care who …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 08:47 AM
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lol i was joking it's just common sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 08:29 AM
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it's more like this if a woman has gone on a date or two with 4 or 5 different guys from apps all of them are in her brain (and probably messaging her) when she's out partying. They are no longer "random internet guys" if she's been on a date or two with them in real life. If she happens to be feelin wild at the party or what not it's just as easy to message one of those guys as it is to hook up with a guy in front of her. They'll "pick her up in 20 mins". Being around women and partying doesn't…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 12:00 AM
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yes you do have an advantage IRL the question is how much of an advantage that is. It's not tinder strangers in their mind it's "hawt guy that I like chatting with from bumble" or "a 2nd date with the hawt guy from hinge". Believe me it's a factor but I agree you have an advantage in real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 09:20 PM
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That is true and partying and being social helps people feel better about themselves in general. However what these guys are saying is true most women nowadays do have 30 hot guys in their phones even if they party. And those guys are also considered when they decide who to hook up with whereas 10 years ago it was much more about who was right in front of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 08:24 PM
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Truth. However I think it evens out with age. like a 45 year old guy who's put together and lives in like NYC / SF is gonna have options. Especially if he dates / sleeps with women his age not younger women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 08:08 PM
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women have sexual privilege. they can have sex with attractive men whenever they want. that is privilege whether they are interested in it or not. men do not have that option unless they resort to illegal means (prostitutes) which most women want to make illegal. Relationship-wise, women have it much better when they're younger and men have it better when they're older. I think it evens out at the end of the day.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 08:00 PM
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I agree it is 100x better to be a woman while you're young but after like 40 or so it definitely evens out. It seems like a long time when you're a young dude but just hang on it eventually gets better. Especially if you have a good career and stay looking fit.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 07:53 PM
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That's because most women have their fill of casual sex immediately upon entering the dating market not because they don't want it. They are over it quickly and ready to look for relationships. Men want casual sex before relationships too and struggle for years to get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 07:50 PM
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you are correct it is a good approach. the only issue is usually you will just get an occasional one night stand for a shit ton of drugs/partying that's it. if you don't like drugs/partying that much it's a really huge investment for low outcome. I partied quite a bit although admittedly my strategy was bad
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 07:41 PM
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I can show you some stats that say if we make manufacturing phones illegal they won't use slave labor. do you support that?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 07:33 PM
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But why not just police trafficking better? When people find out iPhones were made with slave labor no one says all phones should be illegal.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 06:06 AM
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i agree about sex robots but lol if you think women won't find some moral outrage around that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 05:41 AM
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My point was if it was only 1 case you would still want it illegal because the real reason is to constrain men's sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 05:06 AM
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people can survive without meat and milk just like people can survive without sex.. aka not a need!!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 04:43 AM
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so if hundreds of thousands of men remained sad and sexless that's okay if it reduced trafficking by 1 case?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 04:42 AM
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But instead of cracking down on the massive quantify of trafficking cases (30) in norway you want to punish every man who pursues sex with a prostitute?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 03:06 AM
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But you think vets should still exist despite it being a dangerous job because it's a necessary function within society because.. well.. society needs cute animals duh. But prostitutes don't serve a necessary function because.. well.. men just need to control their damn sex drive! So essentially, men's needs are not valid or important enough in your eyes to warrant someone doing a dangerous job and getting paid a ton for it.. that's effectively what you're saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 03:02 AM
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demand why dont they raise the price to lower demand? You know like every other thing in a capitalistic system. Instead of punishing men...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 02:57 AM
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it harms men to grow up around solipsistic women
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 11:08 PM
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no shit it's not reality but it would be nice. yes if you're fat you should sleep with fat members of the opposite sex. It's not a pipe dream if young ugly men sleep with escorts
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 10:11 PM
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true but average is still shit for young men. it's getting laid once a year if you're lucky. that is actual average. most average men also lie about how often they get laid and exaggerate what actually happened. they also delude themselves to avoid facing reality of how shit either they are or dating is. women here these deluded projections and think everything's fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 09:39 PM
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2-3 friends with benefits relationships per year with decent, normal, skinny women and eventually longer term stable, deeply connected relationship with someone you really connect with. This is essentially impossible for non-chads from 18-26 for men
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 09:32 PM
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no you didn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 09:31 PM
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it's the great great great great grandparent of this comment lol here is a link to your comment: https://reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/nxl627/why_does_this_sub_massively_exaggerate_male/h1fir3z/
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 09:13 PM
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they do but women have 100 hot guys in their phones that's the difference. Before it was just the guys in front of them in the bar.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 09:10 PM
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That's about the number of women who are raped. that's an exact quote from you. show the study where 10 million women are raped
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 09:08 PM
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How is a few one night stands and an eventual girlfriend a great sex life? that's the average and it's a shit deal for men
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 09:06 PM
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rape is a big problem and mostly that it is hard to prosecute due to typically taking place in 1:1 situations with no cameras. Doesn't mean it happens to 28% of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 09:03 PM
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lol 20 years ago great anecdote
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 08:58 PM
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And women whole are older and bitter that they don't have relationships need to look at what they input.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 08:57 PM
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rape and sexual assault are different things. please cite the study showing 28% of women are raped.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 08:18 PM
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why don't you link to the study. seriously making these claims with no links is not helpful. I assume you're also a hardcore libertarian/conservative? All failures are a person's fault and there should be no welfare state or assistance.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 08:16 PM
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"In the US, according to 2019 research by the General Social Survey, the percentage of men in the 18-30 demographic who have had 0 sexual partners has tripled in the last decade jumping precipitously from 8 per cent in 2008 to 27 per cent in 2018 – a trend that’s also being mirrored in the UK."
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 07:55 PM
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do you have a study showing 28% of women are raped (not sexually assaulted)?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 07:49 PM
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Why is this post removed? Can I change it and repost it?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 12:16 PM
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This is a pretty good example of a chad. Netflix - Hot Girls Wanted - Episode 2: Here is a dailymotion link: https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6ci8im
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/21 07:38 PM
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Yea nothing wrong with that at all I'm glad you had fun. Just realize the opportunity to sleep with members of the opposite sex more attractive than you is not available to men in a casual setting (especially young men 18-24)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/21 07:35 PM
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I'm arguing women precisely seek hot guys with poor behavior (bad boys) when they're younger because they know it won't work out and really they just want sex and they don't want to be tied down long term. I'm also not talking about one night stands or hookups, mostly the 3-6 month shitty boyfriend relationships that young women have.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/21 07:32 PM
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I'd say depends how self aware they are of what they're doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/21 07:29 PM
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Thank you for your response. I think if young men could get the novel sex experiences out of their system faster then everybody would be on the same page in the dating world. Maybe then it would work better?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/21 07:28 PM
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In this post I was trying to talk more about the semi-casual 3-6 month relationships women (especially younger women) have with bad boy types. Not ONS. Basically shitty boyfriends that they hope will change. I'm saying these women know deep down there is little chance it will work in the long term, but don't care because they really just want sex. Mostly younger women do this (18-24)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/21 07:24 PM
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How old are you? I was talking mostly about the 18-24 demographic.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/21 07:23 PM
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In this post I was trying to talk more about the semi-casual 3-6 month relationships women (especially younger women) have with bad boy types. Not ONS. Basically shitty boyfriends that they hope will change. I'm saying these women know deep down there is little chance it will work in the long term, but don't care because they really just want sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/21 07:22 PM
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Well I'm proposing that the precise reason "bad boy" types are attractive to young women is because women know it wont work out. So it's hot sex and they can pretend they're "trying" at a relationship. They don't want it to work out because they're young and at a deep level don't want to be tied down. It's probably a subconscious thing they don't even realize they're doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/21 07:21 PM
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I think things used to be a bit more free flowing like you're suggesting but unfortunately I think App culture has ruined it. Now young people's hookup life is the result of silicon valley algorithms lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/21 07:14 PM
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Because society shames women for wanting sex so by making poor relationship decisions women can tell themselves they're looking for a relationship but really they just want sex with hot guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/21 07:09 PM
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There are definitely women who truly are not seeking sex. Those that at a young age make realistic relationship choices with non red-flaggy guys (think FDS dating strategy). Good for them. And good for the women seeking casual sex nothing wrong with that I was just pointing out the privilege that they have that option compared to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/21 07:03 PM
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In this post I was trying to talk more about the semi-casual 3-6 month relationships women (especially younger women) have with bad boy types. Not ONS. Basically shitty boyfriends that they hope will change. I'm saying these women know deep down there is little chance it will work in the long term, but don't care because they really just want sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/21 07:00 PM
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It might. How many users on this board on from those places? I assume most people that complain here are Americans. Would be nice to hear from men in those countries
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 02:42 PM
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What about the John who can get women, but cannot get extremely attractive women and thus uses escorts/sugar babies? Is that less despicable. Everyone on this sub knows how hard it is for 98% of men to get varied sex from very attractive women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 09:39 AM
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I see on here a lot women saying "what so we're supposed to have sex with guys we aren't attracted to?" No, nobody should. But society does have a role in attraction. Guys and girls are influenced in their attraction by what is trendy, what people around them think, what society thinks. So society can do more to make the normal standard guy seem attractive. Maybe make successful gamers/nerds actually seem cool vs stereotyping the football jock as the guy girls should be after in media/movies? Ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/21 12:17 AM
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A lot of people in this thread are claiming women don't want casual sex. This is untrue. Lots of women do want it, go through a "hookup phase". You'll see it on dating apps they claim they "had their fun," and now they want a relationship. That's casual sex and a good percentage of women want at least some of it is. Especially younger women. So it is a privilege to these women that they can obtain it easily because guys simply can't. However, once they are past this stage or for those that never…
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