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| 1 | Traditional masculinity shouldn’t be something men strive forPutting on a dress may change how others view me, it doesn't change who I am. This is an essentialist claim--that there is some masculine essence ("who I am") that exists outside of gendered performances. That there's 1) a biologically predetermined, unchanging essence to men and 2) we often perform gender to align our internal masculine essence with an external masculine perception. I take it that you don't fully support this(?) or at least aren't arguing for it in this context, so I'm not goin… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 27/01/25 04:45 PM |
| 2 | Traditional masculinity shouldn’t be something men strive forI think you're misrepresenting the commenter's counterargument--they're not commanding you to define masculinity (and, even if you do attempt to do so, there are always going to be exceptions; definitions are not exceptionless rules). They're saying that any definition of masculinity is predicated on what society constructs as masculine--i.e., we try and define it in relation to "female passivity," we conflate masculinity with a role, or we defer masculinity onto "not-flamboyant." Even then, whe… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 27/01/25 03:23 PM |
| 3 | Traditional masculinity shouldn’t be something men strive forIt's not a question in bad faith though? Commenter before that was arguing that putting on a dress/makeup doesn't erase his masculinity because it's something he is or some other "essence of masculinity." It purports that there is some essential masculinity that exists independently of socially-determined performances of gender. Could you give some examples of masculine and feminine traits that are inherent to us? The emphasis here isn't on masculine/feminine but on the word inherent. It's an ar… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 27/01/25 03:12 PM |
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