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no_respond_to_stupid/r/MGTOW02/04/15 02:41 PM
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It's not love, period. It's how a woman uses a man. She's still capable of real love - as in for her children, as you say. A woman "loves" her man the way a man "loves" his power tools.
/r/MGTOW10/04/15 02:00 PM
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Loving someone is a very selfish act, and it’s okay. You love the person you love for what that person does for you and how he or she makes you feel. That's not what I call love.
/r/MGTOW10/04/15 01:24 AM
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It should be possible to do a study on obliviousness. God, it irritates me to no end. One of the worst is when you have a doorway into a place that's busy, and for whatever goddamn reason, people are squeezing through the door on their left while you're trying to go in the door to your right. They do that because that door is already open, and waaaaa I can't open my own door!
/r/MGTOW09/04/15 07:03 PM
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This is the right answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/15 06:57 PM
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Don't worry prof, not everyone here is an asshole.
/r/MGTOW05/04/15 07:13 PM
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Yes, it's still unclear what the specific status of 30 year olds is. I would prefer a graph that showed marriage % on the vertical axis, and age on the horizontal axis, and showed 4 plots of that graph for the current year, 10 years ago, 20 years ago, and 40 years ago. In such a graph, you might well see a hump at some ages, given how many marriages end in divorce.
/r/MGTOW05/04/15 05:28 PM
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Who cares. Maybe 100% of 34-year-olds are married. That would change our view of this stat, no?
/r/MGTOW04/04/15 08:54 PM
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So you lied, you were being intentionally obtuse. As for "generally regarded" you know there's a whole world out there full of people who do not think like you. Many of them are even much older than you! Shocking, I know. Now, before you go assuming I'm arguing for these kinds of attitudes, remember, you don't go full retard. Intentionally obtuse is bad enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/15 07:26 PM
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Sounds you do agree with the idea that MGTOW is equivalent to "dropping out of society"? I had thought of it more as simply being indifferent to pursuing women and relationships, leaving a man happy to pursue a challenging career, hobbies, friendships, etc.
/r/MGTOW04/04/15 01:52 PM
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You're completely unfamiliar with the idea of girls acting dumb to be more attractive? Of not wanting to be/act too smart and intimidating guys? Of not wanting to be too successful and intimidating guys? Not wanting to be too tall for guys? Not wanting to be too strong for guys? etc etc etc? You've never heard these things?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/15 01:50 PM
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Are you being obtuse intentionally?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/15 10:33 PM
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????????
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/15 10:32 PM
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Really? Changes to tax structure. Changes to welfare rules. Changes to marriage law, divorce law, military involvement, education funding, etc etc. We already struggle with adequate educational funding and priority, imagine if a whole movement of people develops who have no stake whatsoever in child rearing? I mean, just check out the sidebar of MGTOW.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/15 05:24 PM
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That wasn't the suggestion. I believe the suggestion is that a lot of unhappy, sexless and ignored men going RP could cause political changes because their frustration and not being married and having no children will affect their political views. I think that just makes obvious sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/15 04:16 PM
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men who haven't made anything of themselves But that's where you're wrong. They probably have made something of themselves - just not in that narrow range that attracts the attention of women. TRP is about working in that narrow range. A lot of men have different interests though that they don't want to sacrifice.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/15 04:12 PM
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I was just sort of taken aback that the idea of not being interested in relationships with women got somehow conflated with dropping out of society entirely.
/r/MGTOW03/04/15 03:49 PM
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They all seem to. I guess people really like their rules.
/r/MGTOW02/04/15 06:01 PM
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I don't know why I would want to link to a non-participation mode.
/r/MGTOW02/04/15 05:09 PM
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What is that?
/r/MGTOW02/04/15 03:32 PM
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Well, by all means, don't talk to them then.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/15 03:31 PM
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Who said anything about checking out of society?? If anything, they're more checked in because they're more involved in their own interests, their job, their consumerism. They're simply not chasing women is all.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/15 02:38 PM
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I think it's more than that. It's also not doing anything in particular to try to get women or sex even. Your not going to bars to meet women. You're not on a dating site. You might meet one and strike up a fling, but it would mostly be because of her interest and pursuit.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/15 02:36 PM
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Totally agree, but the older generation is generally stuck in older attitudes and cannot see how the world has changed. I speak as one older than most around here.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/15 03:59 PM
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Yes, it's a nuanced line between healthy pride that reinforces your kids achievements and selfish pride that robs from them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/15 03:56 PM
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I have no problem being proud of what they did, but your children's doings are their own. I also speak from as an upper-middle class parent in America suburbia. I'm surrounded by people taking the wrong sorts of pride :-)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/15 03:55 PM
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For both sides, the older generation appears to be interested in what will make you appeal to the opposite sex. When young, I guess you're driven to fuck fuck fuck and make babies. When older, I guess you're driven to make sure your offspring will fuck fuck fuck and make babies. So, girls, no STEM and math and science, no engineering, auto mechanics, etc because you won't be attractive to guys. Guys, no nursing, low-paying crap because you won't be attractive to girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/15 03:10 PM
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Parents who take pride in their children as an extension of themselves disgust me. They are like the Christian God - take responsibility for all the good things you do ("it's because I was such a good parent!"), and blame you for all the bad things you do ("You need to grow up!").
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/15 03:08 PM
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Really? Ad Hominem isn't a fallacy in the world of gender wars?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/15 05:17 PM
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You're simply trying to argue that the adjective form "misogynistic" is not a word. That's just retarded and utterly irrelevant anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/15 05:15 PM
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We need the "Come On" party.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/15 02:37 PM
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The actual study of logic is far more involved than that and can handle fuzzy results just fine.
/r/TheRedPill30/03/15 09:38 PM
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All this talk of shifting moods and monthly changes may well raise a concern: Will such research reinforce old stereotypes of women as hysterical, irrational, at the mercy of their hormones? Quite the opposite, says Geoffrey Miller. "The traditional and rather patronizing male view was that women are fickle, that their preferences are random and arbitrary," he says. "Now it turns out that what looked like fickleness is actually deeply adaptive, and is shared with the females of most animal speci…
/r/MGTOW30/03/15 09:33 PM
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Many non-humans recognize themselves in the mirror, does that not indicate a degree of self awareness? That was one of the things he explicitly said is not consciousness. But bicameral hypothesis is more specific than merely hearing voices. I agree, taken as one big chunk, his theory is impossibly specific. That's ok though. It does not mean every aspect is invalid. I myself find it quite easy to create mental characters, and although the voices usually are easily distinguishable from reality (b…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/15 05:21 PM
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The bicameral hypothesis rested on the non-dominant temporal lobe being mostly unused in moderns. I don't think that's true. I interpreted the change to "moderns" to be a change in the encoding of messages between the right and left hemispheres through the narrow neural passageways that essentially allowed more information to be exchanged with the same number of neuron connections. Ie, as in through the use of more information dense metaphors. I envision it as akin to the difference between a si…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/15 12:36 PM
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I actually think the differences in male and female brains wrt to the degree of connection between the two hemispheres would leave men as being more bicameral in nature than women. Because of the greater disconnect in men, it would lead to the right hemisphere needing to take somewhat drastic measures to communicate it's "thoughts" to the dominant left hemisphere. In women, the connection can be more direct. Potential consequences would be a major difference in how mentally cohesive and incohere…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/15 03:41 PM
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I'm betting you'd have trouble giving good citations for that assertion.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/15 03:30 PM
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Thus why I asked if they were RP views. Also, "should" in this case should be interpreted as meaning "what one should do in order to have success given how the world is".
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/15 09:56 PM
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Ok, so then it would hard to tell the difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/15 09:54 PM
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That's an interesting point of view. Is it typically an RP attitude that marriage should be for such reasons? Ie, power, stability, connections, etc as opposed to love, sex, companionship? Ie, the Bill and Hilary model, if you will.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/15 09:11 PM
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Hypergamy means serialing changing partners. Polygamy means multiple partners simultaneously. Polygamy practices would explain this large a difference more easily than hypergamy, as it's hard to go through that many partners serially while raising children. What is the evidence this indicates hypergamy and not polygamy?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/15 07:07 PM
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It's funny how frequently our "soulmates" just happen to live in the very same city we do! Why, so many even seem to work in the same office! God truly works in mysterious ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/15 03:33 PM
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The myth of "soulmates" is incredibly harmful.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/15 03:32 PM
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the penis head is shaped to suction out rival sperm anyway lol A mostly discredited notion.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/15 12:44 PM
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Well, you know, I've never seen you in /r/basicincome, perhaps I should assume you're a lazy useless slob too. Wouldn't that be fun. Are you for fucking real?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/15 10:30 PM
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But why can't we make a world like that? Why do we have to accept the status quo? I'm going to stop you right there. I'm not reading the rest. I mean, seriously, you think we're arguing about whether or not we'd all like the world to be a better place? Maybe you'd like to have this red herring discussion in a dark alley somewhere?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/15 09:32 PM
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I can see that. Thanks for answering.
/r/MGTOW23/03/15 09:31 PM
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Yeah, I don't disagree with that.
/r/MGTOW23/03/15 09:30 PM
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I agree with that, but there are many personality qualities that tend to follow gender. It still makes it a personality issue rather than a "I'm being disrespected because I'm a woman" issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/15 09:29 PM
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You're reasoning is completely idiotic. You're comparing your house being robbed while you're away with going somewhere dangerous, being too drunk to be aware of the situation, and other such things. A valid comparison would be walking alone in the bad part of town with a big fat wallet. And then, yes, everyone would tell you you got just what you can expect to get when you got mugged. And yes, it'd be nice to be able to walk anywhere safely, but that's not how the world is, and when people poin…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/15 06:28 PM
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Or, you've had people try to explain to you as if you're stupid. When women do it, does it go in a different bucket that somehow doesn't count? I see it as a certain personality type that mostly can't help itself, and I've seen it in both men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/15 06:10 PM
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That's fine, but I really wanted to know his answer. Maybe he never asked for 50/50? Maybe didn't want it? I know a lot of men who bitch about paying child support but also themselves chose a less than 50/50 custody split.
/r/MGTOW23/03/15 05:53 PM
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Just one question: why did you give your wife custody of the kids?
/r/MGTOW23/03/15 12:05 PM
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Awesome!
/r/MGTOW23/03/15 11:59 AM
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Find something artistic to engage your creative side with. For many men, that is part of their drive to be with women - engaging their emotions, feeling like they're creating something of value that is not practical. An art hobby will also consume you in good ways. Painting, writing, photography (my choice currently), learn an instrument, compose music (the tools for this are awesome), woodworking. No need to be good at it at all, but enjoy doing it, and enjoying letting the inner freak out in y…
/r/MGTOW22/03/15 09:30 PM
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Shrug. Not my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/15 04:47 PM
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That's not much of a party line, to be honest. Hardly different from any other topical subreddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/15 04:42 PM
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One of the main reasons people engage in relationships is sexual exclusivity. Right, you basically said "people care because people care". I'm asking why. Why do they want sexual exclusivity. Why does it matter?
/r/MGTOW22/03/15 03:55 PM
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Cheating... I fail to understand why people care, and why people feel possessive and jealous - particularly in an MGTOW world.
/r/MGTOW21/03/15 05:33 PM
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I think one of the main things that's happened is that the ideals of marriage and even co-habitation as the primary aspects of "a relationship" are dying, and need to die. I don't, in general, think men and women co-habitate well. Sometimes, it works, but most of the time, it works because one or the other is willing to simply give up all their space and "exist" in some one else's space. The problem that needs to be addressed is how will social cohesion and child rearing work in that world? I ha…
/r/MGTOW21/03/15 01:50 PM
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I think one of the big problems is that people are mostly reactionary. TRP is reactionary. BP is reactionary. Feminism has become reactionary. The fact is, the world changed, and changed in a way it needed to (equal rights for women). That had consequences, some good, some bad. Reactionaries see the bad, and decide it's time to go back to when that particular problem didn't exist. They don't see the problems that existed back then because they don't exist now, and so they are fooled into thinkin…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/15 01:46 PM
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Assume AWALT, because they usually are. It's not that simple. TRP assumes the percentage is high enough that you shouldn't look for it, you should assume it's there even when you don't see it at the moment, and you should tailor your strategies in such a way that a non-AWALT would be repulsed. If the percentage wasn't assumed to be impossibly high, the strategy would be different. Without a real understanding of reality - and specifically that percentage, the strategizing is unfounded, at best u…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/15 12:29 PM
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Seems like the #1 thing humans do fuck up.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/15 11:54 PM
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More people should check out /r/sex, to be honest. The only sub related to gender that I find filled with enjoyable people, for the most part.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/15 11:40 PM
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I wouldn't let you borrow my Tesla no matter the fuck what, dude. Those things are expensive!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/15 11:38 PM
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But it's about the actual numbers of the stats - ie, the difference in the average height of the populations and the nature of the distribution. Otherwise, everyone goes away from the statement "asians are short" with their own peculiar incorrect notion, and actual communication isn't really happening. AWALT is typically described by TRPers as 99% or more accurate, when in reality, as low as 70-80% would still look to a TRPers like the current world does to them. I wrote a top-level comment expl…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/15 11:34 PM
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tend to command any situation. I don't see that as childish It's childish when that's the only way you know how to behave.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/15 11:28 PM
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AWALT could have only 70-80% coverage and still look a lot like what the dating scene looks today. Because those 20-30% actually decent girls are A) mostly taken, and B) subject to the confirmation bias of those with red pill beliefs such that every imperfect act they do makes them seem AWALT, despite the vast preponderance of excellent behavior they might exhibit. The biggest issue I have is that confirmation bias and self-fulfilling prophecy. "Game" attracts the AWALTS quite successfully. So, …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/15 11:26 PM
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You add excellent points.
/r/MGTOW18/03/15 08:08 PM
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I don't like this list. 3) particularly bothers me. You would teach your daughter that any guy being nice is actually an asshole just out for sex? From all the rest of us guys not wanting to be assumed to be a sex-crazed pricks: thanks a lot. I think a frequent and big problem with women is they fail to see men as individual humans (just like women would often complain men fail to see them as individual). There are categories, all men are easily classified and thus dismissed, yes? No, teach them…
/r/MGTOW18/03/15 07:48 PM
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People are going to project what they like onto TRP and ForeverAlone to answer this question. In that sense, you're just asking "do you believe in No True Scotsman for TRP or ForeverAlone?" So, maybe more concrete question: If you had to roll the dice and date one (at random) of the 100,000+ TRP subscribers, or one of the ForeverAlone subscribers (at random), which risk would you choose?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/15 02:48 PM
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Spending all one's time figuring out how to "naturally and happily [do] things which provides value to others" leaves one's own self rotting somewhere in the back alley. This is not the way. Become yourself. Become more and more yourself. Have empathy for others, but skip the pity - that's a thin but important line. This guy is obviously doing things to bring value to others - dancing, game, economic success. Are all those things bringing value to himself?
/r/TheRedPill17/03/15 01:48 PM
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But a ton of people use the phrase "nice guy" disparagingly in the context of when said nice guy is just being nice. The coming storm of assholery upon rejection is assumed. It is also assumed that the only motive for being nice is to be allowed to stick dick in cunt. Therefore, nice guys are automatically assholes, even if they haven't yet blown up about being rejected.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/15 06:41 PM
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It's juvenile and simply throws up a back-pedaling on the obvious meaning in your first statement. A better response would be: "Is that because they are all you have?"
/r/TheRedPill16/03/15 06:29 PM
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Now that really puts the crux to the matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/15 11:37 PM
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The young man was anywhere from 18-25. The young lady was probably 25-30.
/r/TheRedPill11/03/15 02:24 AM
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This article completely scared the crap out of me. I have become somewhat inured to man-bashing and the facile way men are generally depicted in a negative way. But still, in the NYT, to see: And perhaps still elusive. Many women eagerly hit the library on Saturday night. And most would prefer to go out with friends, rather than date a campus brute. And not even be in any way ironic? Just. Fucking. Wow.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/15 06:49 PM
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Those are shitty statistics for getting a good idea of what is happening, IMO. I'd rather see a graph of marriage % by age rather than these arbitrary made up age brackets. The change could be mostly in a delay in marriage beyond 25 years of age as opposed to truly fewer men ever getting married.
/r/TheRedPill10/03/15 04:15 PM
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I am seeing this pajama wearing nonsense in the young too (both men and women). It's bizarre.
/r/TheRedPill10/03/15 03:44 PM
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Is this a serious question???
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/15 05:12 PM
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I can't physically intimidate a guy for it...But, If I act flirty and suggestive... I get the cashier to not charge me for guac Are you suggesting if you were a guy you'd try to bully the guac out of the cashier?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/15 01:29 AM
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Fortunately, we weren't talking about being cheery and social.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/15 01:25 AM
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People start asking questions like "are all women manipulative?" and they learn to not trust you, get the impression you're a slut/whore/shallow person, etc. They see it from multiple women, they start getting a generally dismissive attitude toward women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/15 01:22 AM
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but why not take the tiny tiny bit of effort needed to flirt if it will save you money or get you things? Because there is a cost to that behavior, and when you have to pay it, you get very upset about it and blame other people for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/15 12:26 AM
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"If someone is shitty then they are shitty" isn't much of a stance.
/r/MGTOW04/03/15 09:57 PM
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No, more like everyone should be an individual and their individual choices and preferences respected. If a woman wants to be a homemaker and child-rearer, that's not "don't want to work". That's very important work, actually. Early feminism made a mistake by dismissing that work and fighting to get women respect by pushing them into the workforce as the way to do it. Now we have tons of women who get careers but don't really want them (yes, many do want them, but many feel they have to do it to…
/r/MGTOW04/03/15 03:21 PM
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What is the "nice guy" issue other than that people are confirming their bias by labeling jerks as "nice guys" and then claiming "see, see, nice guys are actually jerks!"?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/15 02:06 PM
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That's actually my situation. Since we did it, our relationship has never been better.
/r/MGTOW02/03/15 04:20 PM
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Feminists led the way in devaluing homemaking and child rearing work and telling women they not only could have a career, but should have a career, and feel shame about not having one.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 01:48 AM
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Yes, well, I agree they are vague, particularly "omega". To me, alphas and betas are team players that work well in the standard human group dynamic. Alphas are good leaders and good followers. Betas are good followers. Omegas, IMO, are neither, and there's lots of different varieties of omegas, but the essence is they don't participate. They aren't good leaders, nor good followers, nor good team players. They are left out for one reason or another. So, I don't define them based on how well they…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/15 10:51 PM
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simply not being attractive enough But alpha/beta/omega is about personality, not physical attractiveness. What about your personality is "omega"?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/15 10:46 PM
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In what way are you an omega beyond just unlucky with women?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/15 08:48 PM
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Waste of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/15 07:49 PM
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The poor reasoning in that link is astounding.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/15 06:18 PM
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HHL?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/15 06:12 PM
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Should balance out the sexes too in each category. 1 trp man, 1 trp woman, etc...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/15 05:41 PM
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And now you're putting random words in quotes as if it's something I said? So, you selectively take me at my word or don't take me at my word, in order to "debate" me, and you will imply I said things I didn't. You're not debating me. You're debating yourself. Have at it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 04:35 PM
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I think you just want to argue.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 03:20 PM
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I don't know, it's just something he claims. Some people doubt it, but I don't see the point of that. His videos are really pretty interesting overall.
/r/MGTOW26/02/15 02:48 PM
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The guy who makes these literally cannot speak.
/r/MGTOW26/02/15 02:28 PM
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I have a hard time believing that the world would be a better place if women never won the freedom to choose how they spend their lives I explicitly did not say that. I mean, really explicitly.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 12:02 PM
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It's true, people coming to this sub are likely trying it out, and thus are still in pain over women. But I see more established posters pumping the rage themselves rather than being examples of men who are happy having gone their own way. I'd like to see more of that latter. Too much rage pumping makes it look like a circlejerk to me.
/r/MGTOW26/02/15 03:20 AM
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Oi. It's still unfathomable to me. But, most humans perplex me, so what do I know.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 03:17 AM
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You're talking about TRP'ers, most of whom are probably 12 years old. Let's not give them quite so much acknowledgement. I thought southwer was talking about people IRL.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 02:59 AM
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I'd like to see more examples of something other than that though. I've never looked at the sidebar here until this post, and it makes me cringe. Take the Rules: We will allow no feminists ... ... We will allow no attempts to make this a ... "Safe Space" Seems like #1 is all about making it a safe space. The entire sidebar screams weakness and insecurity to me.
/r/MGTOW26/02/15 02:01 AM
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The world would be a better place now if women and feminists had decided that the way to equality wasn't to join men and be more like men, but rather to be themselves and enjoy it. I think very many women are fooled into thinking they need a career to be happy, and they'd have been more happy at home if being at home hadn't been demeaned as "women's work", ironically by both feminists and men. Yes, fight for equality - control over your body and abortion rights, demand respect for what you do an…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 01:57 AM
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Ironically, they could if more nuclear families survived on a single income.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 01:52 AM
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I'll hold my breath for the day feminists fight the good fight against the attitude that man with children = pedophile.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 01:48 AM
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For me it wasn't about that. I couldn't have cared less what anyone thought. However, no mom's group would accept me and no mom's would do playdates with me. So, I was strictly on my own with my kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 01:46 AM
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By men? Really? That's completely unfathomable to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 01:44 AM
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The gap is simply explained by general attitudes toward men who don't "work". Does this question really need to be asked?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 01:40 AM
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I know, I suck at it!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/15 03:02 AM
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To me, going your own way means being past the need to continue talking about women. To me, it should be men talking about things that are of interest to men who are no longer interested in women. If it turns out, what is mainly of interest is women, then ... ?
/r/MGTOW24/02/15 10:59 PM
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Any asshole can grab a word (or acronym), make a subreddit, and rule it. We as humans, who have a tendency to mistake the symbol for the thing symbolized, then incorrectly assume a subreddit called /r/mgtow is about men going their own way. But, that's a mistake. It's a subreddit about whatever the people who come to this subreddit make it about, regardless of the title. Like all subreddits. A subreddit isn't a movement, but it can certainly be hijacked by some moderators and their own personal …
/r/MGTOW24/02/15 03:15 PM
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Oh dear god! I've been talking to a brick wall. Now I feel very stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 03:04 PM
7

You're not even talking about this at the same level as me here. You want to talk about how people should view it. But what's being discussed is how people actually view it. If you think the two match, then, as I said, you are fooling yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 01:22 PM
9

If you actually believe women are just fine with a stay at home husband, you are fooling yourself. The whole world calls that man a bum. That has an effect on both the man's and woman's self-perception.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 03:24 AM
3

Marriage != fulfilling relationship Monogamy != love Marriage != love Monogamy != fulfilling relationship soul mate != exist no one taking care of home matters == teh suck (and I'm not saying it should be the woman, but seriously, how many women are "stepping up to the plate" to let a guy be the homemaker?) Both people in a couple working is stressful. The home is a lot of work, and doing that work has far-reaching benefits, from health, to frugality, to comfort, increased leisure time, etc. Wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 03:16 AM
-2

That's fine. I still question whether you're still in your 20's
/r/MGTOW23/02/15 03:52 AM
-3

Yes, I'm a dude. Are you even old enough to know much about 50-year-old women and their sex lives? Being a potent fun sex partner is about one's mind much more than about one's body. I don't use lube when I make my woman gag on my cock.
/r/MGTOW22/02/15 10:57 PM
0

Well, you are very mad bro. Can see that.
/r/MGTOW22/02/15 08:52 PM
-2

Fallacious analogies aren't a point to be argued against. I pointed out the fact they're fallacious and that is sufficient. Oh, I see now he edited his post with a long edit section that's a rant about how there's nothing attractive about women to him. That's fine. As a man, I'm not attracted to men. But I don't feel the need to rant about it. It's a lot of protesting about the whole matter. What drives the need to say all that so many times? I mean, he's going on and on about how women are wort…
/r/MGTOW22/02/15 04:53 PM
3

You have to channel the sexual energy somewhere else. Something long term. Like, becoming a doctor, getting a PhD, starting your own business, etc. The energy has to go somewhere, else it'll go into mental illness.
/r/MGTOW22/02/15 03:15 PM
-2

We then present the simplest examples of our logical processes Yes, and they're analogies. Analogies aren't arguments. They can be used to refer to a concept for the purpose of helping me understand what you're talking about, but you can't use an analogy to argue that something is true by analogy. It's completely fallacious. How would I offer evidence of a 50 year-old I used to know? It's anecdotal. Take it for what it is. As for /r/mgtow, it seems very obvious to me that if this is a place you …
/r/MGTOW22/02/15 03:11 PM
-4

More irrelevant analogy. If you have better things to do with your time, great. Go do them. If that better thing is posting whiny complaints on /r/mgtow, well, then you don't have better things to do, and you are fooling yourself if you think you've really gone your own way.
/r/MGTOW22/02/15 02:19 PM
-1

Personal insults are also irrelevant, and again, no substitute for actual thought and reasoning.
/r/MGTOW22/02/15 03:45 AM
-6

Irrelevant analogy is irrelevant. It's no substitute for actual thought and reasoning.
/r/MGTOW22/02/15 03:34 AM
-2

In my experience, at least one existed. You might want to question if confirmation bias is clouding your judgement.
/r/MGTOW22/02/15 03:12 AM
2

Correlation is not causation. We say 30s to 40s because it correlates well with wealth and financial power. But that doesn't mean that someone 27 can't have the wealth and power, it just means that, on aggregate, we don't find that very often.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/15 09:48 PM
-2

So, given you're no longer thinking about having children, why not find a nice mature, emotionally stable 50 year-old to enjoy a great friendship and sexual freedom with?
/r/MGTOW21/02/15 06:30 PM
4

The problems as I see them are, firstly, they ban/delete comments based on disagreement. It's not just based on being an insulting ass. Secondly, these subs are simply words grabbed by a random person who then has full control over who can say what under that word. /r/Feminism, for instance, is ruled by a deranged man. These aren't private spaces. 2X is a default sub! Thirdly, circlejerks are not healthy for the jerkers, and, if you check out many of the folks that frequent these "safe space" su…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 05:50 PM
2

cost, benefit, and risk. Oi. My thought would be, do I feel like helping, or not? And that's it.
/r/MGTOW18/02/15 03:32 PM
0

Um, what? I'm glad I don't live in your head. Seems mighty crazy in there.
/r/MGTOW18/02/15 03:31 PM
12

I'm pretty sure most people like being objectified when they want to be objectified and don't like it when they don't want to be objectified. The problem is, women get too much and too often when they would prefer not to, and men too little and almost never when they want to (the old lizard and husky parable).
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/15 02:13 AM
2

Yeah, but who can resist?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 02:34 AM
0

Feels like we read different articles.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 03:50 PM
3

"Entitled" is a meaningless word. People apply it to someone else who has wants. They apply it to someone else who has negative emotions, like frustration, anger, sadness as a result of things that others do or do not do. It's used as a way to attack people who have feelings you don't like about different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 03:33 PM
7

Cause they're weak and fragile and can't handle harsh language, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/15 09:47 PM
6

Ya, the biggest turnoff about TRP is probably that it's a relatively safe place for angry or frustrated men to lash out and vent about women, and of course, when people do that sort of thing, they're not generally concerned about the fact "generalizations aren't literally true 100%". GTFO with that pedantic shit is the state of mind when you're ranting. TRP is a place such people actually get a kind of emotional support and comforting, with the idea that they'll calm down and work out the real i…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/15 09:36 PM
2

Because the revolution in rules and laws alreadt happened. Now what you're waiting for is the changes in attitudes that needs to happen. You can't hurry that along by more rule changes, and, in fact, trying to force changes in attitudes can easily back fire. It's not a matter of whether change should happen faster, it's a question of can it happen quicker in a positive way. Culture lives in peoples' heads, and older people generally don't change their minds. It takes generations to change cultur…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/15 01:06 PM
1

Nah, I got /r/Feminism and /r/redpillwomen to keep me company.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/15 06:59 PM
1

Nothing I enjoy more than meeting such people.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/15 06:03 PM
0

Oh now you're being misunderstood. Jesus, go cry somewhere else.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/15 05:47 PM
14

Your characterization of the link is completely made up. Have you no intellectual honesty?? Their first demographic was millenials. This includes men and women. No "feminist" issue there. Their next demographic was women. Women make less money on average than men (I'm not talking about any gender-wage gap BS either, just the overall non-adjusted fact of the matter). Why do they earn less? A big part is they take on more of the responsibilities at home, especially childcare. Again, on average (sp…
/r/TheRedPill05/02/15 05:23 PM
0

So, you called her names, they called one of your family members names, you came here to cry about it? Who's the one who can dish it but can't take it???
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/15 05:08 PM
-4

Look who arrived to poke at the least relevant part of the thread. Did you finally find some words spoken at your level?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/15 04:52 PM
-2

Most people are idiots. Should we celebrate?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/15 04:47 PM
-2

Not here to win or lose. Am here to talk which often involves challenging ideas. I didn't say you didn't tell me the reason. I simply said there was no sense in it. You're an ass, and clearly extremely insecure.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/15 04:13 PM
-3

invade with your pernicious vile feminism You can characterize me however you like. But the fact is, you don't know me at all, and this pretty much proves it. No, I don't need to be in your sub. I'm just surprised how many subs are like this, and how many people desire the power to exclude others. I wanted to know your reasoning because I thought maybe there was sense in it, but I see that is not the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/15 04:09 PM
-2

edit: ew youre a man? bleh Seriously? I'm feeling a little Poe's Law here.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/15 04:03 PM
-5

Yes, I get it. You're an ass. You couldn't make it any clearer. It's not about rights, it's about you being an ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/15 04:02 PM
-3

I just posted in that thread, we'll see if I get banned too.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/15 03:29 PM
-5

You're banning individuals, regardless of what they say in your sub, based on the fact that they've posted comments on another sub?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/15 03:20 PM
-6

Well, first, reddit isn't a private space. Second, "not allowing me" is a bit of a euphemism for acting like a jerk, I'd say. What exactly do you mean? You'll punch me in the face if I say something you don't agree with? Kick me out of your home? Never talk to me again? I still think it's indefensible. We should be able to hear other people's thoughts and ideas without desiring to make them stop. Of course you have every right to tell me to leave, and I'd have every right to think you're weak mi…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/15 03:13 PM
-4

Just because it's legal to do it doesn't make it defensible. The word censorship certainly has broader meaning than you want to acknowledge.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/15 01:04 PM
0

I care about it too. The banning and post deletions and story pulling kills off any real discussion. Without real discussion, people learn nothing. Look at /r/feminism - 50,000 users and it's a ghost town. No worthwhile discussion at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/15 01:03 PM
-1

No, most gender subs ban dissent really fucking fast. What is it about the gender subs that they are like this? I am new to all these gender subs (trp, feminism, ppd, 2X, OneY, etc) and I have never been banned so fast for ... well absolutely nothing, frankly. I came with interest to all of them, I don't self-describe as any of it. I see endless posts about who got banned from where, what stories got deleted, posts are deleted all over the place, and I can't say much of anything that I really th…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/15 01:02 PM
-4

Why do you do that?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/15 12:55 PM
4

Equality of outcome takes time. Why would the results of hundreds/thousands of years of sexist attitudes and laws change in a mere 20 years (very roughly) even after the attitudes were essentially corrected? It's going to take generations to right itself. It doesn't mean that the "structure" as you call it should be actively broken up by further political actions. That can do more harm than good, as opposed to simple patience.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/15 12:54 PM
9

Anecdotes is the big one. All sides post endless "look at this bullshit" stories to their subs, and then everyone jerks off to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/15 01:53 PM
2

Are you cereal right now? I was rice chex earlier, but I'm feeling cheerios now. Your post was all baseless attacking and hate, so you'll excuse me if I didn't take it seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/15 03:09 PM
1

I don't see victimhood at TRP. I see a plan. And, of vital importance, it's a plan about how the man can change in order to adapt to how things are. Whereas feminism is about how the world should change to adapt to how women want things. They are a hate factory that pumps out hate. Just empty words without substance. I mean, that's just being attacking and hating yourself. Because the rules were all set up by men for men. Rolling my eyes here. Black people have the right not to be called names W…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/15 01:08 AM
6

Couple points: 1) I agree, it's not a nice solution 2) You can see how TRP might be a successful strategy, despite #1 3) At the core, it's a response to the imbalance I mentioned above. On the one hand, you can be like this guy - hey, everyone should be behaving better! TRP doesn't think that's realistic and says, well, women behave like X, which is contrary to what the guy says but no one calls them on it, so, the fix is Y.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/15 12:58 AM
9

Yes, the world/society tries to restrict everyone, not just women. TRP is like men saying "ok, we get it, these are the rules if we want to be successfully, so let's embrace it". Feminism is like saying "ok, we keep getting these rules about how we're supposed to be and we don't like it, so we're going to compare it to rape till it goes away". I just made that last part up, cause you left yourself wide open that way. Which is the healthier response? Not sure, I kind of think they're both unhealt…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/15 10:14 PM
1

But the TRP point is that all cunts are cunts like that, no? Are you saying you're a MGOTW'er?
/r/TheRedPill31/01/15 10:05 PM
6

riverraider wasn't saying he was, he was saying that it doesn't apply to TRP because society at large (ie, not this guy) already condemns such behavior from men, but not from women, thus suggesting that TRP is possibly a corrective strategy for that basic imbalance. IOW, TRP might be a path to getting both partners to behave as this guy says they should.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/15 09:23 PM
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