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You’re the one coping with your cut dick buddy. Not everyone cares about this small “issue”. Go sit in the cuck chair and let an uncut man fuck your wife if you’re that insecure.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 09:23 PM
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Cuck rage. Circumcised dicks work just fine. If yours doesn’t, go sit in the cuck chair and let an uncut man fuck your wife. Because that’s the route you’re going on.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 09:14 PM
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Maybe if you weren’t so focused on circumcision you would’ve answered my comment 35 days ago
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 09:06 PM

I think listing your salary can come off as snotty. Leave the title but leave out the salary
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 08:50 PM

How do you tell if you’re AF/BB
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 08:47 PM
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So they pass along all the resumes to the bad men huh
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 01:10 AM
2

Women dominate HR
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 12:43 AM
1

He never said he was oppressed. He said their end goal is to make men 2nd class citizens.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 12:37 AM

Trads need to give up the 1950 fantasy lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 12:31 AM

Just work on your personality bro (get rich)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 12:29 AM

If they tell the truth the simp factory stops making orbiters
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 12:28 AM

Based!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 12:27 AM

Bro that kittens post was ridiculous 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 12:25 AM

I agree. Looks status money
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 12:24 AM

I remember the kitty post and I said the same thing in the comments just instead of “SMV” I said looks. Essentially men need to reach a certain threshold of attractiveness to have their hobby’s be attractive. Hobby’s mean nothing in the grand scheme of things if they’re ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 12:19 AM
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lol what? It’s a biological urge
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 12:15 AM
1

Can you write normally? I don’t understand what you just said
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 12:13 AM
3

This post reads like someone read every circlejerk “get a hobby” post and tried to make examples out of it. It’s that unrealistic
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 12:12 AM
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Yeah none of it is creepy. He just met her at school instead of gaming…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 12:11 AM
2

Yet will break up with their boyfriends all the time
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 12:10 AM
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Is it just me or is guy 3 really not that much different than guys 1 and 2. She just met guy 3 at school instead of some hobby lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 12:08 AM
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The longer you are friends with a woman the more she sees you as just a friend. Also for current males in their 20s, the competition has increased tenfold compared to past generations. Your friend is not one of the three guys in your area that’s suitable to date as a woman. Now you’re competing with every guy in your city if not state. So instead of 3, it’s 1000
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 05:21 AM
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May. She has the least red flags.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 05:13 AM
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Statistics show most people meet online
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 05:11 AM
0

Completely agree. If you try to go to bars, everyone is on their phones trying to display they’re having a good time
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 05:10 AM
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The problem is, women friends do not want to date their male friends. So yes, trying to befriend women with the objective to date them is a waste of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 05:08 AM
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It would have to be forced. It wouldn’t go well
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 05:07 AM
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Sex is on the bottom of the hierarchy of needs Just because you get it, doesn’t mean it isn’t important to them. What a weird post
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 05:06 AM
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This is what I was thinking. OP automatically assumes the worst case scenario. Also, notice how straight men aren’t allowed to explore sexually.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 04:58 AM
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You are assuming the most extreme case scenario for the male. The argument starts in bad faith
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 04:57 AM
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But it’s not just a social disability. It’s a wide spectrum of mental issues. Like I said, people on the higher end of the spectrum cannot function. They cannot function in society. Low charisma doesn’t = autistic. Reality is a lot of gen z was raised in isolation on technology and never developed good social skills. Covid only made this worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 08:01 PM
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I don’t think it’s necessarily a road to misery. The system doesn’t make it attractive anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 07:45 PM
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They had the economy handed to them on a silver platter, cost of living was nothing compared to today. They also had less competition than your average gen z .
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 07:25 PM
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Change your flair to black pill. Because if you’re right the entire system is degenerating and society will collapse due to the birth rates plummeting
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 07:21 PM
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No hard core data proves your point.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 07:19 PM
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You have it backwards. Gen z has realized the boomers mistakes. The boomer media makes fun of marriages because the men hate their annoying wives. Not because the man is cucked. Marriage isn’t beneficial without raising kids, and even then a lot of gen z grew up in boomer/gen x households that were divorced or hated each other and should’ve been divorced. Gen z has realized the boomer mentality of school->college->marriage-> kids -> retiree is not achievable for most of us due to the economy and…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 07:16 PM
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Men have 4 main traits that make them attractive. Looks, charisma, money, status. Looks are the first thing you will notice in a guy. An average guy with good charisma can likely court a woman. However, he still exceeded her physical standards. Truly ugly guys never get a chance to display their personality. Physical standards are the first metric both genders use to qualify their partners. Thinking otherwise is just lying to yourself and others. Like I said, it’s not a bad thing, it’s how peopl…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 07:03 PM
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So you’re saying all women cheat on their average boyfriends. Doubt. You probably knew some degens who were into polygamy and think that’s everyone. Most people are not doing this I went to college.. this did not happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 06:52 PM
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Boyfriends for social proof means that bf is high in social status and likely has a good image and job. Doesn’t mean he’s a fucking cuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 06:43 PM
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All woman are looks obsessed. That’s the first thing you see in a man. Both genders go for looks first. This isn’t news or a negative thing
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 06:42 PM
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Not at all. Plenty of autistic people still get girlfriends . It has nothing to do with autism specifically. Autism is a wide spectrum and shouldn’t be used as a cope for men. Good looking mildly autistic guys will do better than your average NT loser. If a good looking guy is “awkward” women do not care. You are also telling people with a disability that they can never get a girlfriend which is pretty fucked up.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 06:35 PM
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Personality isn’t everything. Charisma is. A lot of men these days are late boomers not because of autism. It’s because society has created this issue. Looks, status, money, and charisma matter more than your general personality. Yes, autistic people don’t have charisma but a slightly autistic dude who’s good looking and has status can still get more woman than an average NT loser with no money. Autism isn’t a social death sentence. It’s a wide spectrum and if you’re on the worse end of the spec…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 06:33 PM
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The problem is you’ve used extreme examples to support your unrealistic claims. If you could actually debunk legitimate claims men have made I’d be interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 06:27 PM
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Looks are the first thing a man sees. A man could be great in bed. But who’s gonna know that if he looks terrible?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 04:58 PM
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Agreed
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 04:56 PM
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How’d you know? Wanna give me the lotto numbers too?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 04:05 PM
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So what if my parents screamed at each other?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 02:38 PM
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If I go to the blackjack table with $500 I have the potential to double my money. But if I lose it all, do I blame myself for gambling or the casino?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 08:14 PM
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Black Pill Zoomer The hopeless romanticism left you last week dude lol. As a zoomer myself, I don’t really know the best way forward. It’s more than obvious our generation is materialistic, narcissistic, and driven by likes and follows by social media. The modern era only fuels this type of rhetoric that op has written up. I think at least understanding the reality that the “happy marriage” that boomers and gen X had promised is gone for most of gen z.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 04:21 PM
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Honestly good but it’s also a failure on the woman’s part to not see the obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 04:09 PM
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They just want the top 10%. That’s all this post is, confirming that the top 10% are the only “viable” men out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 04:08 PM
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It’s easy for you to determine that. Not for women because they aren’t just basing their dating prospects on future money.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 04:04 PM
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Disgustingly true
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 03:29 PM
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Who said that? Not me. Not the stats. Did you mean rich guys that make up the vast majority of the income? You literally said in your post guys who move up the ladder will cheat and that being someone’s day 1 means nothing. Somewhere in the middle. This is false. Most men get married and have sex. If you were actually looking at what women were doing, you wouldn’t say the things you’re saying. The marriage rate has plummeted as each generation passes. Not even half of millennials were married in…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 03:28 PM
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You just said guys that actually try to do better also cheat when they have more options. So who do women date? They don’t date bums, they don’t want to date guys who work hard because they might have other options. This is a classic case of don’t listen to what women say but look at what they do. Go after the top 10%, make up reasons as to why the bottom 90% can’t be good enough
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 03:15 PM
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Then they’re either dating for potential or someone who is living to their fullest potential
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 03:08 PM
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So are women willing to date bums in fear of cheating?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 02:30 PM
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Why get married in the first place if you don’t want the government involved in your relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 05:49 PM
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This is what they don’t get. It’s not a flex to say 39% of men haven’t had sex in the last year. It’s concerning
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 11:51 PM
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We are on track for a steep population decline, and a large population of angry men. Won’t end well.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 11:49 PM
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Exactly this. Getting a girlfriend is on the lower end of the spectrum of “important parts of my life” right now
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 11:46 PM
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The majority of men not having partners doesn’t support your statement
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 11:43 PM
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The red pill has some truths tied to it but • it sells men a dream of spinning “plates” • it can quickly get ugly real quick in terms of viewing women as robots who are programmed to want the top 1% of men and will discard you for the next guy at a moments notice
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 11:42 PM
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Yeah they’re delusional. He doesn’t readily standards so he must not reach hers
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 11:40 PM
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What is victim pilled?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 11:35 PM

Isn’t that the whole premise of being “blue pill”? Being unaware and stuck in the matrix? Or is the pill thing not a reference to the movie? lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 11:29 PM

Awesome, so you’re no where near the dating scene and have no clue what’s going on in reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 11:24 PM

Or you could say she’s the average blue piller. Completely unaware and denies anything other than the reality they were provided with.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 11:20 PM
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It’s happening unconsciously whether you ignore it or not. If there’s no middle, what is purple? I figured purple was middle
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 11:13 PM
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I picked purple because I’m in the middle. I’m not red by any means; but I’m not living in Disney either.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 11:03 PM
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Lots of men have given up. You just don’t hear about them because they have.. given up. Lol I’ve mostly given up.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 06:15 PM
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Yep, mothers like this are extremely verbally manipulative and almost abusive, fuck that
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 03:15 PM
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This post is absolutely unhinged … do mods even exist?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 01:55 PM

The guy you replied to just went on a schizo word salad rant. I have no idea how he went from political correctness to fat people and then to massacres
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 06:18 AM

Because it breaks the lie that they just have to have a good personality. Their entire lives they’ve been told if they have a good personality and act respectful they will get a girlfriend. Looks being more important shatters their reality and makes them angry
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 06:16 AM
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The way you worded the post implied they did go for drinks at the apartment, and he then made a move and she declined then went home. NOT that he asked her to come back, made a move, and then she went home. I don’t believe you did it maliciously, but it could’ve been worded better. If you made it more clear she declined at the restaurant, my response may have been different
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 06:11 AM
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You took absolutely no accountability in how you worded your post. Myself and most users figured the lady went home with the dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 05:49 AM
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Why? It only positively affects you. It doesn’t affect your ability to get a partner
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 02:35 AM
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Who’s “we”? Most men are still living in fairy tale land
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 02:05 AM
-1

Then you had an esteem issue, not a flirting issue. Not sure what the point of this post is then.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 02:04 AM
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Do you think she legitimately has a penis? Dude what the fuck?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 02:03 AM
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The typical red pill FOMO. I need to write a post absolutely slandering the red pill because they’ve absolutely sold you a fantasy that you will never achieve. The red pill starts out with some truths like improving, betabucks, hypergamy, but then derails into shit like this. Extreme nonsense to get men scared that their crush has extreme fetishes and that they will never measure up. The end goal of the red pill is a degenerate male fantasy. Be a bachelor who “spins plates” and if he does get in…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 02:01 AM
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First off, the guy is a doctor and knows more than you. Two, being circumcised really isn’t that big of a deal. I have never cared at all. Thinking it’s a legitimate issue is actually pathetic and should be shamed, let the parents do what they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 01:54 AM
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Circumcision isn’t a real male issue, the only ones who care are extremely hyper-fixated on their dick not being the way they want, and it’s almost pathetic to a point. It’s an irrelevant discussion and I laugh every time some guy brings it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 01:52 AM
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Because the truth is becoming more widespread, it’s even harder for the average blue piller to remain clouded.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 01:50 AM
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Here’s what I think. There is no learning how to flirt. You either are born with high levels of charisma or you’re not. Throughout life, I’m sure you’ve noticed those with high levels of social charisma. Flirting is a natural skill, yes it can be “learned” but you will never be as witty as a natural who can do it in their sleep. Your best bet is to lean into one of the 4 pillars of male stats. Money, charisma, status, or looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 01:49 AM
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Most women aren’t posting 24/7 about your relationship but they will want to occasionally post you. I do agree that most men are pathetic and can’t walk away easily from a relationship. Their standards are weaker than their mindsets, all for sex. In this disgusting hyper competitive environment we as men should be ready at any point to walk away.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 01:44 AM
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It’s a societal issue at this point that would only be cured by banning social media as a whole. Your personal opinion is irrelevant and your standards irl would get you called a boomer
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 01:38 AM
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lol it absolutely applies to Reddit. Instead of them bragging on Facebook about loyalty they’ll wear a fedora and tell you how good their relationship is
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 01:37 AM
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You will die alone with this standard as a gen z man. Women are posting 24/7
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 01:35 AM
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The majority of men and women have had multiple relationships throughout their lives. The majority of women. The process of dating is getting to know who you’re most compatible with, and that often happens through trial and error. Relationships are like Pokémon badges to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 01:14 AM
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I know. I’m just saying that’s my only rebuttal and it’s not a strong one.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 07:47 PM
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The only rebuttal I have for this is men can run around shirtless and not be seen as weird
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 07:30 PM
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All the red pillers in the comments acting like staring isn’t apart of this are hilarious. Telling on themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 07:29 PM
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When the majority of men start leaving the dating scene and eventually the birth rate plunges even more than it already has, and the government tells you well sucks to suck you have no retirement benefits, you will realize how wrong you are. Unless you truly are a boomer that has experienced the best economic growth ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 06:22 PM
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They are absolutely different, but I’ve noticed some of those men with no experience believe they need sex. Is it the ultimate solution? Absolutely not. Would it even the sexual playing field and stop the body count arguments? Absolutely.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 06:21 PM
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Good point. Lots of men view therapy as a yes man just validating your feelings
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 06:14 PM
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She’s actually arguing that women don’t change their standards over time. lol, how delusional
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 06:13 PM
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It wasn’t always the case in the past, she probably is older and in her generation it didn’t happen, or she’s from a more conservative area where it’s not as common. Anecdotal experience is one of the worst fallacy’s people love to use. It’s one thing to acknowledge the fallacy from the start and make an argument but otherwise it’s just such a bad take
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 06:12 PM
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The quality of life is significantly worse outside of the USA.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 06:09 PM
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I wouldn’t say it’s personality, but charisma. I believe charisma isn’t something you can just learn, but are more born with. Some people are just naturally charismatic.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 06:03 PM
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Imagine trying to market yourself on MySpace, and others telling you to improve your profile beyond what can be done, but in reality MySpace is not a valuable platform anymore, so improving is generally pointless. The truth is there’s a reason lots of young men are opting out of dating. Every day there are new posts and men leaving the dating scene. You talk about reality but you refuse to accept this isn’t 2000 anymore, we’re in 2024. You ignore what is actually happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 06:00 PM
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It would at least give them the sexual confidence some of them are missing.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 05:57 PM
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He’s just not attractive. He’s likely very ugly. Well below attractive men are auto creeps. I’ve seen it happen myself. Those men need serious improvements in their mannerisms and looks and it’s an extreme uphill battle.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 05:51 PM
0

I can understand not wanting to date misogynists. Your philosophical argument makes no sense though.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 05:49 PM
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Again, you assume this is an 1980s movie where the dateless guy is some nerdy dude Keep the rose tinted glasses on and keep telling yourself that one. It’s not just some nerdy kid in a romcom.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 05:46 PM
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Legalizing prostitution nationally would be a great start I think.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 05:43 PM
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Flair up, but I’m going to assume you’re red pill here because that’s definitely more on the line of their thinking. The difference is it’s not just me. It’s a majority of young men that have been thrown into to the dumpster of a hyper competitive dating field unlike this world has ever seen. The problem with your “just improve” mindset of the red pill is most red pillers just care about sex. They want to improve so they can spin “plates” and live some sort of bachelor dream, and if they do get …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 05:35 PM
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It’s not misinterpreted. There is no “improve or get left behind” the goalposts will always become higher, the standards get worse each year. Eventually the bubble will pop.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 05:29 PM
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This made me laugh lol. There really is no winning is there.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 05:27 PM
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“While it is wise to learn from experience, it is wiser to learn from the experiences of others.”
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 05:25 PM
0

The goalposts will always move to excuse the failure of failed relationships rather than acknowledging he’s just as much of a failure if not more so, than the guy with 0.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 05:23 PM
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I’m not wallowing in misery, I’m just telling you how it is. I’ve been on both sides of the fence when it comes to dating. It’s night and day, and some men never get to experience it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 05:23 PM
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A majority of gen z males are dateless. 63% of gen z men are single while 44% never had a relationship as a teen. It’s absolutely a wildfire. You may not notice it depending on your age. But if this trend continues it will affect society at large.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 05:21 PM
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I never said women are beneath me. You’re arguing random things to try to paint me as a misogynistic person
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 05:20 PM
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I disagree, at least for causal. At 30, you can pull 20 old and 40 y old as well. While I was 21, I could go max 2,3y older. And also didn't want to date highschoolers, so age range was +-3 and now is +-10 I’m discussing relationships. At the end of the day, sure a 33 year old can have sex with a 23 year old but in reality it’s not common and if you actually get serious with her, she’s less mature than you, and society will likely look down on you for dating such a younger woman. As an older man…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 05:18 PM
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Again you assume every man who can’t get dates are extremely bitter and hate women. I’m telling you a majority of a generation are practically dateless, and your only response is to blame every individual rather than maybe thinking this is a societal issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 05:10 PM
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You are conflating sex and relationships. The point isn’t that Larry had sex so he’s better, the point is he’s failed in 5 different relationships and while he has experience, he is ultimately a failure who cannot hold a relationship together long term.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 05:08 PM
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What is the end goal of being in a relationship? Marriage. If you have had 5 failed relationships yes, you are just as much of a failure relationship wise as me having zero.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 05:06 PM
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You assume every man who can’t get dates have something wrong with them. 63% of gen z men are currently single and 44% have never had a relationship in their teen years. We’re talking about essentially half a generation of men who aren’t even able to date. This isn’t just the fringe nerd who can’t get a girlfriend like in an 80s movie. Eventually societal change will happen whether you like it or not if this trend continues.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 05:00 PM
0

I’m discussing relationships, not just sex. And yes, I’m currently on nofap to try and improve myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 04:58 PM
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Yet at the end of the day, we’re both single and maidenless. It doesn’t matter what he did with his past relationships sexually, that’s not the point. I’m discussing relationships, not just sex
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 04:58 PM
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Well if you believe in shits like "women age like milk", "women after 30 are damaged goods" that that mentality is fucking you up. I am also 31 and many of my peers are unmarried yet, many of them are still hot as fuck. I would argue that if a women takes care about fitness and health, she look better at 30 than 20 I never stated women age like milk after 30, but women like men, have less choices as they age. I also think Reddit gaslights women into thinking everything ends at 30 while telling m…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 04:56 PM
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You will care when you have no benefits at age 65 from the government because there are not enough future workers to support the older generation. If you think there are no consequences to the eventual population decline, you’re in for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 04:49 PM
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You’re the type of person who this thread is referring to. Clowns must keep the circus running to get paid.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 04:46 PM
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When I say the data backs my argument, I’m referring to the fact that marriages are decreasing, gen z men are mostly single and have rarely dated. This trend will continue, and I’m not sure you understand what happens next.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 04:45 PM
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So you believe in 1970s and 80s that the gender pay gap was an individualized problem and not a societal one? Come on.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 04:43 PM
-1

It’s a great question and I’m not sure I have a legitimate answer. We may be too far gone as a society to fix it without men standing up against the current system.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 04:41 PM
2

I never claimed they would
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 04:40 PM
1

I actually think the men need to come together and force change, not the women. The women are the benefiters of the current system. To even the playing field, men must move forward and change the game. A great start would be mass staying single and not going into marriage or anything. But sadly men never unite, not sure if you said this but someone on this thread said all men are competing, and if you “leave” another will try to get the woman. Men are extremely hard to unite regarding this issue…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 04:39 PM
3

Try telling this sub that and you’ll be screamed at that personality means everything. It’s a sad world we live in.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 04:37 PM
1

Typically when things change in a societal level, the individuals come together and create change. As a woman, you should understand this more than most. If you were concerned with the gender pay gap and I told you to just work harder, you’d probably get mad. Because there were legitimate social issues between woman and being paid fairly. Telling individuals to just “improve” does nothing on the societal level.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 04:35 PM
5

I somewhat agree, it also depends on how attractive the shy man is. Attractive shy man - quiet confidence Ugly shy man - creepy, awkward
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 04:33 PM
0

You can ignore society but the data backs my argument way more than it does yours
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 04:32 PM
3

So what? Nobody says dating and life overall is fair. The point of this post is that other men never tell you it’s unfair, you’re just expected to do well. Someone is born in working class family while someone is born in rich family with connections. Person A has to work 100 times harder just to reach person B starting point. However that doesn't mean that person A can't become successful or even rich eventually Money is not dating. I can get rich at 35 and have as much fun with the money at age…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 04:30 PM
3

The alternative is listening to Larry who’s had 5 failed relationships. At the end of the day we’re both at square one, but Larry is a failure with baggage while I’m not.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 04:26 PM
1

So for any societal issue, you believe every individual affected just has to change, rather than things changing on a societal level? You realize that’s not how things happen right?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 04:25 PM
2

Okay, who are those women looking for then? It doesn’t necessarily make sense to me that they wouldn’t want someone who’s similar
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 04:21 PM
5

So who are the looksmatch of shy nerdy women then?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 04:19 PM
-1

They’re more the enabler rather than narcs themselves. They believe they benefit from the current system (they don’t)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 04:15 PM
-2

Okay. Let other men simp beyond belief and get taken advantage of.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 04:14 PM
-2

This is clearly a societal issue not an individual one. Start viewing this as a societal issue and you will realize why this makes sense
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 04:14 PM
1

Except this isn’t just a flame, this is a wildfire across the country. Why do you fail to understand this is a societal issue, not an individual one?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 04:12 PM
7

Some people just start off better than you. You can spend years working to be a 7/10 but the other guy started out life at an 8/10 and put in half as much work and became a 9/10. There are also things that can happen to you like balding that are completely out of your control. Acting like you can just “raise” your attractiveness like a video game stat is laughable. Some people just have “it” and you don’t. It’s much easier to accept reality than to work on an endless goal for years. Be yourself,…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 04:09 PM
1

You don’t learn to be attractive. You either are or you aren’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 03:51 PM
5

The circus needs clowns to keep the show running
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 03:50 PM
8

None of that relates to you trying to not so humbly brag about your body count on a Reddit thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 10:56 PM
7

But then again, I have a body count that skews statistics. I visibly cringed when I read this.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 10:40 PM
4

Monogamy is natural, marriage is just the institution that promotes it
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 10:28 PM
4

i befriended the bf of my female friend and its fine although its hard to call her a friend anymore its more like acquaintance. Thanks for proving my point!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 04:17 PM
3

Exactly this.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 03:44 PM
0

Be fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 03:43 PM
2

Then find someone you love from 18-35. It’s not hard to do as a woman. Seriously
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 03:42 PM
6

It already has. That’s why guys like Tate blew up in 2022. The balloon already popped. Now Tate is a terrible person, but he went viral for speaking on typical red pill topics.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 03:40 PM
12

Yeah… wanting a woman who’s not fat and doesn’t have kids in their early to mid 20s isn’t unrealistic. If it is, then I will happily remain single for the rest of my life knowing my generation has no viable partners
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 03:39 PM
1

They likely don’t want to be friends with you because they see you as competition, especially if you’re an average or attractive dude. If anything, they are the ones likely pushing for her to stop talking to you. Also, let’s say you actually do become good friends with the guy. If they break up, now you’re in the middle of that. I seriously rather just not be friends with most women in the first place and avoid this situation all together. We aren’t kids anymore, and reality is these friendships…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 03:20 PM
1

Many do. Else who are the orbiters? I only learned about them here. You assume that the “orbiters” actually want to date them. I’d be considered an “orbiter” to some of my old women friends; but I wouldn’t touch them with a 10 foot pole. They discarded me in the past for a different guy, now they lay in the choices they made. Yes, that happens. Or maybe she was not single when you 1st knew her. Maybe she thought you were kina cute and sweet, but chose not to dwell overmuch, coz she was spoken fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 03:15 PM
2

I agree, but friendships with women are doomed from the start. Once she gets a bf she’ll discard you. It’s just the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 03:12 PM
2

They want more simps playing the long game for them. It’s sad. I actually rather be single for life, than date past “friends” who didn’t want me in the past but suddenly now that I’m “better”, they want me. Let’s be honest, first bf didn’t work, 2nd didn’t work, now you’re 27 and the clocks ticking.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 03:11 PM
9

Better yet don’t be friends with women. It never lasts
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 03:07 PM
3

Here’s an unpopular opinion. Men shouldn’t be trying to be friends with woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 03:06 PM
4

Because one day you might get sex!! She might like you after she’s dated and fucked the first 3 guys!!!! Don’t you love being the beta bucks!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 03:03 PM
3

The guy with tons of female friends is gay. Let’s be real. Most straight men don’t have that many women friends
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 02:59 PM
1

What self respecting man wants to wait for a woman friend to “see the light?” Be honest. She liked someone else more than you, dated them, had sex with them, etc. It’s only after all that, and with aging she suddenly “matures” and decides you are the one. Nope! She can go find another guy. I’m not an obvious 2nd option.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 02:57 PM
-1

Traditionalism is about raising children. So yes it matters. Truth is, regardless of what minor statistics you pull out of your ass, as a whole marriage and birth rates are plunging. Divorce rates are higher than ever. 1/4 millennials aren’t married, and I could see 1/2 of gen z not getting married . As a gen z male, there is absolutely no benefit in marriage unless I want kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 02:45 PM
-2

Explain the birth rates plunging then
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 02:40 PM
5

Sex. That’s it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 02:29 PM
2

You are looking at one specific group. The marriage rate has fallen. The birth rate has fallen. These are facts
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 02:28 PM
0

Yeah it just seems like cheating is the worst realistic option but red pill guys want revenge and to “eat their cake too” and that’s where they lose me, and have always lost me.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 03:38 PM
1

The better option for the dead bedroom guy is to make it appear other women are interested in him then, without actually acting on anything. If he truly loves his wife, he won’t cheat. But he’ll tell her the lady chatted him up at the grocery store. Or that the new lady at work was asking him for help.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 03:27 PM
1

This theory only works in the cavemen era. When you factor things in like social status, money, and charisma it’s not just “alpha = good looks and spreads dna” but alpha = high status job, high social status, good looking, wallet, etc Also, cheating is socially looked down upon.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 03:26 PM
2

It was obviously implied they went home and watched the movie. Come the FUCK on
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 10:04 PM
9

Why not reject him after the date , and refuse to go to his apartment? How deluded can you seriously be? Naive to the max
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 07:00 PM
9

She could not go back to the apartment with him where he said they would drink. Shocking I know!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 06:52 PM
1

I have never had a relationship, but I wouldn’t say I worry about the touching aspect of not having experience. I wouldn’t say my life is going well, but I don’t necessarily feel it’s due to lack of touch.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 06:52 PM
12

Unless you’re THAT naive you should understand basic social concepts, like going back to someone’s apartment and drinking while watching a movie might imply there could be sex down the line. You went on a DATE and then AGREED to go back to an apartment (private setting). It’s pretty known what could happen. If you are genuinely that naive, remove yourself from the dating pool until you figure out basic human interaction
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 06:50 PM
1

It also could be that I’ve never experienced what true touch is I guess. I can’t miss something I never had in the first place. It’s not necessarily awesome, it could indicate there is something wrong with me emotionally
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 06:40 PM
1

Yeah… I’ve never felt the need for touch specifically.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 06:37 PM
31

Why would she agree to go back to his apartment and drink alcohol? It’s hilarious how little agency you give the woman in this scenario. Yes the man shouldn’t hold resentment, but the woman could’ve also rejected him at any point prior to the actual sexual move.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 06:36 PM
1

Title is wrong. They don’t need to approach. End of story
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 06:02 PM
0

I’ve never felt “touch starved” or particularly cared about being “touched”. Not sure why this even matters to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 05:51 PM
1

You’re assuming status = popularity. Status can be your job, your connections, your instagram follower count, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 05:44 PM
1

Because if you’re socially awkward and not high in status, she cannot talk you up to her circle. It’s very simple. High status is in my opinion, even more important than looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 05:43 PM
1

Yes, the married men who cheat on their partners don’t “help” but I wouldn’t necessarily blame them for the current dating struggles in society. Considering how easy it is for men to get absolutely fucked in a divorce, I find it hard to believe a majority of men throw their entire lives away to cheat. Even if they do, it’s certainly not enough to worry about. The competition argument is certainly valid though, but it’s not married men increasing the pool. It’s just technology and the wider reach…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 05:06 PM
1

Single moms aren’t triggering to me. It’s just sad that the child has to be raised without a father because of poor decision making from both parties. Mostly the woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 04:47 PM
0

The more competitive field isn’t married men cheating on their partners. It’s just the vast additional amount of men in that pool. I’m a young man in my 20s. In the past, my competition was only my local area. Now it’s my entire state, potentially multiple states via dating apps. This isn’t a married men cheating on their wives problem. If it is, you have to prove how married men are somehow stealing all the single women and why women always go after cheaters, because that’s what you’re implying…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 04:46 PM
1

You’re right, they’ll be childless and single. Some will definitely be single mothers, and they’ll likely never find another man to date seriously because most men understand how pathetically bad it is to date a single mom. I’d never date a single mother.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 04:41 PM
1

Eventually they’ll either be single moms or single forever. JP Morgan says what, half of adult women will be single by 2035 or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 04:32 PM
1

Exactly. It’s like comparing a homeless man looking for food vs the man in the diner looking at the menu full of choices, and them telling me the man at the diner booth has it harder because he has to pick from a menu. It’s a laughable and easily refutable argument using the diner example.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 04:31 PM
3

Yes, the competition pool has absolutely made it harder for the average man to date. As a general rule, men of my age (gen z) are far better off just working and making money to retire early and leave the system.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 04:28 PM
2

No, this is the average woman experience on a dating app. It’s just the HARSH reality that men have to work 100x harder in the 21st century for a 10x less quality relationship than their grandparents did. The best thing you can do as a gen z man, is make money and retire early and not give your time to the system.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 04:26 PM
1

As I typically say, welcome to the average life of a man in 2024. You have to work 100x harder than your grandparents did for 10x less relationship quality. There is, really no rebuttal for this. Meanwhile, all the technological advancements related to dating have only helped women and maybe the top 10% of men. The rest of us have to make dating a full time job just to even get somewhat better at it. Another interesting fact regarding your anecdote is the harsh reality that the competition isn’t…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 04:24 PM
1

Because it diverts the accountability away from society and to the individual man. It also shifts any agency away from women, because lots love to act like a victim.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 04:18 PM
1

Those “billionaires” are profiting off the low iq commies who buy “eat the rich” shirts from said billionaire
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 04:17 PM
1

How so? Just curious
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 04:13 PM
1

Pictures can be deceiving.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 04:13 PM
2

Thank you for giving me a checklist . Great job
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 04:12 PM
2

This thread is just another “blame men” thread. They pulled this one out of thin air and it’s very pathetically obvious how bad this argument is
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 04:11 PM
1

So your anecdotal evidence suggests men are just cheaters, and that cheaters make it hard for single men to date. This is one of the most laughable conclusions I’ve ever seen on this topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 04:09 PM
1

So your anecdotal evidence suggests men are just cheaters, and that cheaters make it hard for single men to date. This is one of the most laughable conclusions I’ve ever seen on this topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 04:09 PM
2

Only average or below average men even have to ask this question. A top percentage male doesn’t even question if a woman is flirting with him. That’s how… rough it is for men these days
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 04:08 PM

They are only referring to 9/10s or higher. Average men are invisible, therefore not accounted for in this statement. Everything a woman asks for outside of looks, you can break down to: well if the man attractive or unattractive, would it change her reaction to said ask? If she says all you need to do is give a woman flowers, would she accept flowers from 5ft 6 balding skinny fat Lad? Because she is likely thinking she’ll receive flowers from 6ft 2 Jacked Chad. And yes, the statistical evidence…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 04:02 PM
1

Probably not, especially because these types of women love to circlejerk that they want a tradman while they aren’t anything a tradman wants
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 04:00 PM
5

But if you don’t pay $200 for her steak dinner you’re fucking FEMININE /s
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 03:59 PM
1

Most marriages fail because of finances
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 03:58 PM
-1

Relationships are conditional, therefore transactional
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 03:53 PM
6

The question was rigged from the start.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 03:51 PM
13

Why don’t people understand this? It’s such a simple concept. Things don’t make you attractive, looks do and then your personality is the icing on the cake. When op thinks of this guy, she’s literally thinking of the Chad meme guy rescuing cats. Not your 5ft 6 balding dude who’s skinny fat
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 03:45 PM
1

This just boils down to the fact that every activity you do is just unconsciously a way to attract a partner. It’s pathetic but human biology However doing this solely to get laid, is low
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 03:43 PM
1

Both are wagies. The latter is trying to fill the empty void of hedonism .
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 03:36 PM
1

Absolutely not
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 03:35 PM
14

Because they never have to experience anything close to it. They don’t have to try to get male attention
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 03:34 PM
1

They like the attention
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 08:23 PM
31

If marriage is a legal matter and the government gets involved in the case of divorce and makes men pay child support, I see no reason why they can’t get involved if a woman does something wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 04:38 PM
1

I always thought that statistic was inaccurate, but it also depends on who they’re asking. Do they ask a bunch of 25 year olds, 45 year olds, or 60-80?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 04:35 PM
2

Using this statistic is great. I’m doing this from now on.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 04:04 PM
1

Old men can’t accept the fact that they should’ve paired off with a woman their age long ago. They ruin it for younger men and that’s why so many are single
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 03:05 AM
1

Hopefully not too much
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 12:34 AM
5

It’s fine to reject anyone on any basis
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 06:05 PM
1

This post seems just wrong like someone could get roofied
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 06:45 AM
1

It depends on the woman’s looks to be honest
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 05:46 PM
3

Your personality is judged by your looks. A confident ugly man is just a creep.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 05:44 PM
35

Bingo. Social skills matter but only after you pass the looks/status threshold
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 05:42 PM
8

Your social skills are also judged based on your looks and status: Let’s say a man is very introverted. Good looking introvert with high status: Has quiet confidence, ‘intimidating’ (in a good way), great listener Ugly introvert with low status: Awkward, creep, low confidence, can’t talk, etc. If you don’t believe me, look up the halo effect.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 05:40 PM
1

Talking to women platonically isn’t required to flirt
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 05:30 PM
1

You are merging being able to talk to women platonically and flirting. Those are two different types of interactions. There are guys who don’t have any women friends who get girlfriends.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 04:38 PM
-1

Why would they want to platonically bond with someone they’re interested in?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 04:24 PM
16

Because before you get to even show off your “social skills” you are judged by your looks and status. Not that it’s not important, but the others are basically “cutting the line” so to speak
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 04:24 PM
6

They’ll likely get a boyfriend eventually and stop talking to you anyway. Might as well ask them out
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 01:54 AM

I’m surprised you said drake and not Taylor swift
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 02:05 PM
1

If you’re not having kids, there really is little benefit to getting married.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/24 05:42 PM
115

Hating your married partner is an issue no matter the gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/24 05:39 PM
6

Autism is a wide spectrum. Some are not functional at all, while some it barely affects their lives, and some can live a relatively normal life but they need help and guidance getting through school and stuff. Unfortunately it will be very hard for someone with autism to date. I mean hell even guys who are not autistic have a hard time these days. Idk what to tell you. Maybe ask a therapist for advice
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 06:39 PM
3

I’d have to agree. Maybe not with all your points, but the title is based
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 02:51 AM
1

The difference between us and our parents gen is now it’s a chore.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 11:23 PM
7

This is what society at large doesn’t realize. So many men understand the game and don’t want to be second choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 11:20 PM
3

Who is Brian and why do they want him canceled?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 11:14 PM
2

Women are thirsty just not for the average man
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 11:08 PM
1

It’s because that 28 year old is contributing to the gen z dateless issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 11:00 PM
1

Most of them succumb themselves into 10 different hobbies to keep themselves busy
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 02:08 AM
10

You mean you don’t want to go on a date with her and her 2 kids? Monster!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 11:08 PM

Exactly. It’s not right away in the relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 10:58 PM
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