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where did dbz_f go tho
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 11:46 PM
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what does "solid dude" mean to you? what makes them so solid?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 05:52 PM
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this is why men of our generation are completely undatable.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 12:56 AM
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so if we were to look at the study, they would conclude that what qualifies someone as "not belonging" would certainly have the trait; no sex life?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 12:19 AM
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yes or no question.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 12:09 AM
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does belonging = sex
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 12:00 AM
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is isis compromised of men who are motivated from not getting sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 10:56 PM
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i wouldn't have any applicable experience but I always struggle to see it as a libido issue. even if a woman is low libido, if sex is generally a positive experience for her, being propositioned even when she wasn't really thinking about it wouldn't be a problem, since it presumably wouldn't be something stressful to do. it makes me wonder how many dead bedrooms is just the guy using her like a fleshlight or expecting her to give him a (false) performance.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 08:56 PM
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if women tell men that men harass them in day to day life, we expect. they have no choice but to believe us because they themselves will never experience it. if men tell us their loved experience makes them want to die without sex, I'll take their word for it. that's their own problem still. I think it's hypocrisy they claim this, but don't see prostitutes if it's true.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 08:42 PM
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I'm not arguing that. men said they would die without sex, I'll take their word for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 08:21 PM
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where did you glean "we should feel sorry for them" for the record, I made this post because hypocritical virgin men often complain they can't get sex but always make poor excuses to not see a prostitute. I feel no pity for them, but am actually tired of their excuses.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 07:54 PM
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I don't think other random women should have to service men. such a job is a choice and it already exists. it's merely like any other service job that exists (like cleaning or masseuse) if I woman wants to obtain sex she too can hire a male prostitute. it's just remarkably rare for a woman to not be able to obtain sex in a regular way. I am a virgin because I want to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 07:33 PM
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? you are being needlessly antagonizing. even if I feel that men are lacking sex I am only pointing out that this can be solved with a market issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 07:10 PM
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I would never unless they paid me exorbitant amounts of money. prostitution isn't pity fucking. it's fucking for money.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 07:04 PM
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Women have a natural intimacy with each other that has nothing to do with their sexuality. Women are more likely to identify as bisexual due to their responsive sexual nature. Women benefit from cheating by adding genetic diversity to her family without breaking the family. See the "sneaking" mating strategy here. It's not polygamy, but infidelity. I never mentioned harems. regardless you are right that female harems are generally cooperative with each other. this does not mean they have sex wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 06:53 PM
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I would not let a man bother me because he is bothering. I have interacted with plenty of men who don't bother me when talking to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 06:17 PM
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men are killing themselves at a record rate and are crawling into rabbit holes that lead to dysfunctional personalities and ideologies. there's nothing wrong with expressing concern for our future, since these are people we will work with.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 06:16 PM
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I won't agree with your last statement. Men have been the most rampant bisexuals throughout history, and assuming men are obligate "straights" while women are bisexual (for some reason?) makes no sense. Women also get all the benefits of cheating. Assuming a woman naturally prefers just one man is disingenuous, while also assuming she would somehow sexually get along with his other wives is laughable.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 06:10 PM
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<image> I can't argue with you but I'll use the screenshot
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 05:05 PM
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what rule
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 05:17 AM
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see, but that's like your opinion. technically his opinion is about as equal as yours
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 05:03 AM
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flings are superficial. relationships standards are lower because men can make up for qualities they lack through other aspects.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 05:02 AM
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<image> whatever this guy said idk I'm not a man
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 05:01 AM
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you forgot /j most men only want sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 04:57 AM
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sure? yeah I don't want men bothering me.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 04:57 AM
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does this statement not implicitly go against redpill? genuine human connection?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 04:56 AM
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🤷‍♀️ I mean those guys say you're a liar denying your own biology. it's not like your statement is more legitimate than theirs.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 04:54 AM
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https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/1drbxsv/comment/lawppod/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/1drbxsv/comment/lau5x5p/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/1drbxsv/comment/lba79ux/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button (read paren…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 04:52 AM
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I am not a man. I can't say men won't die without sex. there are many in this comment section who argue that men would die because of no sex. you can take it up with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 04:40 AM
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most men cannot get casual flings.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 04:39 AM
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I am not a man. I can't say men won't die without sex. there are many in this comment section who argue that men would die because of no sex. you can take it up with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 04:39 AM
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qin an idyllic world, prostitution is highly regulated with customers needing brothel ID's and such. every customer is documented and screened properly that it reduces risks greatly. prostitution as a whole develops from woman on the corner to niche kink/personality/type where she can choose what kind of sex she would like to perform and the competitiveness would mean she develops meaningful skill, rather than just owning a vagina. this could mean developing a name for yourself etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 04:37 AM
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no. I am merely stating that since there is demand that is a necessity, there is job opportunities to fill that need. personally I have no talent in this aspect. I am a virgin and probably not good at sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 04:32 AM
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Men naturally seek varieties of women and historically have been uninvolved with their families. Men are meant to be promisuous. This coincides with the fact that modern society pushes romance hard. Men are gaslit into believing themselves into romantics, making them believe themselves to be monogamists. In reality, men don't actually care all that much about "women" as people. Marriage is a social construct meant to benefit men and gurantee bloodlines. Men were always meant to be promiscuous wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 04:05 AM
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if a woman wants to be voluntarily celibate because of an "incorrect" notion why shouldn't she be allowed to? there is not nearly enough good worth sifting through the filth that is the rest.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 02:58 AM
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for example, sexual minorities get hate crimes and need laws to give them extra protection. women get affirmative action to create equity in the job market. if men need sex, it's only equality to legalize an accessible source.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 12:38 AM
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men arent capable of that. it's also unrealistic to demand "men" as a group as though they have annual meetings on how to behave.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 12:36 AM
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men make it everyone's problem when their needs aren't being met. I am concerned about these "needs" that aren't getting met in supposedly 60% of men
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 12:16 AM
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I actually think exactly that too. but at least for a moment they're liberated...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 12:15 AM
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nothing wrong with masturbating.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 06:25 PM
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most jobs aren't "good" regardless. im not envisioning it as a job someone is forced to do. most jobs are just what someone makes it out to be. streamers, onlyfans, are both job in the similar territory but many people wish they could be the popular ones. it's not like there's 0 potential. might even be able to retire early.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 03:33 PM
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🤷‍♀️ job is job. idk why you are agonizing over this. ideally there is enough regulations to reduce the risk (customers are thoroughly documented and screened)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 02:39 PM
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it's merely a job option. did I write women should be required to service men? no.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 02:36 PM
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I didn't hide anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 07:02 AM
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this is not validation this is fomo.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 07:01 AM
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the man who cannot get hook ups or dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 06:54 AM
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you forgot /j
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 06:53 AM
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I'm a woman
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 06:51 AM
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k
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 05:44 AM
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where does entitlement come from? jealousy. fomo. so long as "having women" or "having bodies" is a status amongst men, entitlement will always show up no matter how many you cut off, because women always exist. I wonder if, for just a moment, women were to cease to exist, would men finally stop feeling disparity?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 05:42 AM
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I'm just saying this "intimacy" seems to be a lot more about nutting into a girl whether she's happy about it or not than "getting touched, with affection"
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 05:37 AM
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why
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 05:35 AM
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sure, it's self sex. but sex on its own certainly implies at least 2. if I were to masturbate in a car, I wouldn't call it car sex. if I were to masturbate while on the phone, it's not phone sex unless the person on the other side is also involved. "I want to have sex" is never used.. to say you want to jerk off. but most of all sex ≠ orgasm is the primary differentiator to me. masturbation is for orgasm, sex isn't necessarily. so since I differentiated orgasm and sex, is sex still a "need"?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 05:34 AM
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because if the amount needed is just abstract with no discernable affect, then isn't it just a want? In order to maintain a good health, people are recommended to eat [amount] of calories each day. if a person is working out, maybe they need more protien. if they are pregnant, more calcium. otherwise, their health falls astray. we know a baby needs to be touched often or it will perish. how often? we can probably guess at least 20 times a day(⅚ of a day). but how much sex does one need to keep a…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 05:27 AM
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we have had centuries of loveless arranged marriages.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 05:12 AM
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no. sex is an act between people. masturbation is done alone. I would argue "orgasm" is a "need," not sex. (sex does not guarantee orgasm either)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 05:05 AM
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if this was evolutionarily based it would have nothing to do with mutual desirability and be mostly one-sided gratification. unless this is not what you mean by sexual intimacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 05:02 AM
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if you were to just cuddle with a guy everyday but only fuck him once a month he would probably cheat on you
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 04:59 AM
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<image> ? but you agreed with this guy that humans need sex. he even compares it to food and sleep.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 04:55 AM
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🤝
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 04:47 AM
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if you eat enough crumbs you can satisfy hunger. what you're describing sounds a whole lot more like a craving.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 04:46 AM
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that's why I said normalized. you are just one person who this service wouldn't be for.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 04:33 AM
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the men who describe sex as a need are certainly describing a far more needy hunger, than one that can be "waited" to be sated...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 04:32 AM
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i mean in this hypothetical they would probably outlive us by generations with all their fucking. regardless I thought this as a solution too once. alas, now i think the only way to resolve the problem is to remove the source of the problem rather than problem people.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 04:31 AM
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ah well. there has already been death(s) because a man couldn't get his d wet. various times actually
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 04:23 AM
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I believe if men could, they would. this opportunity is not available to most men, so they settle for relationships with undesirable women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 04:23 AM
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men probably marry because it's far more affordable
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 04:22 AM
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so long as the right partner hasnt come around, you don't have sex. so sex is conditional to having a right partner. this is the typical sexuality women here describe. this is not the typical sexuality men here describe. this is also not the need I am talking about
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 04:02 AM
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I'm not a prostitute, why would I offer?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 03:54 AM
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? Yes. Most firefighters are volunteers even. Streamers stream because they like streaming.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 03:53 AM
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Japan is one of the most sex-positive countries? They have a lack of marriage problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 03:50 AM
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There are a lot of jobs like this. Not too atypical? Mukbang streamer - eats past the point of comfort/foods they actually enjoy for views Firefighting - Jumps headfirst into danger, and the pay isnt even good There are many life-threatening jobs, actually. Regardless, there would have to be many benefits, and ideally you are making a lot of money.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 03:32 AM
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wants can be, and often are, far more complex than needs. what?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 03:28 AM
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I don't know. I kinda wanna know too.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 03:28 AM
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So sex as a need, as you describe, is actually a pretty specific kind of sex, right? Do you really think that when men are describing sex as a need, it's the same as yours?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 03:27 AM
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I mean well, whatever...? What does this have to do with whether masturbating is considered sex? I think it's bad that it's used as an insult. We as a society should move away from that. The asexuals are laughing at us from the other room.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 03:26 AM
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incels is a self-identified term before it became an insult. incels are incels only if they choose to identify as so. virgin isn't an insult either, it's just a term.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 03:23 AM
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But why can't a hook-up rid you of hunger? Far better than crumbs.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 03:20 AM
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It's not like she has to have this job. How is working at a bank good for a woman? She makes money. Firefighters, social workers, construction workers all work dangerous jobs. What good is it for them? Should they stop doing it?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 03:19 AM
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My own question? They are still virgins and incels. Sex is an act between two people.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 03:14 AM
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I assumed you were talking about the once a week part. If there is no set amount, how is it a need? Would sex once a year fufill needs? Maybe sex once a day isn't enough?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 03:13 AM
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do prostitutes just starfish and do nothing? I would assume they are trained to be enthusiastic for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 03:11 AM
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You consider masturbation sex? A incel/virgin is someone who has never had sex. But they probably masturbate. I guess theyre not virgin/incels anymore??
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 03:09 AM
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If prostitution wasn't stigmatized and it was a lucrative job, there would probably be some women who enjoy it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 03:07 AM
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the fundamental difference between a want and a need is that you can quantify a need. if someone can always "need" more, then it is a want. Men want variety, so they always "want" more sex. Does he "need" more than one sex a week? Does he "need" various partners? If a man was say, in the military with no women around, would he feel unworthy of life and happiness because he can't get sex for whatever period he is in that space for? Having sex does not even alleviate the feeling of unworthiness fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 03:06 AM
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I have seen far more comments from men saying sex is a need than men saying sex is not a need. I only reiterate this (I'm not a man so I can't say it's false) And then you state that it's a female need too. What is your claim?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 02:59 AM
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Men need sex so they have sex with undesirable women If a woman wants sex at that moment, she will have sex with an acceptable man. Sexual attraction is when you become horny because of said individual.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 02:57 AM
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What do you mean by "intimacy," and how are men having sex with sex workers not getting this? Does a man not have interactions with their escort?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 02:55 AM
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This is not attraction my guy. This is having sex with undesirable women blinded by her horniness at that moment.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 02:54 AM
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this only applies to couples, not men as a whole. what about men who are only interested in hook-ups?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 02:52 AM
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I have a post in the drafts about how society gaslights men into being romantics. I suppose we would have more to discuss there than here.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 02:51 AM
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that's why i reccomend contacting your local lawmaker.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 02:48 AM
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Ah, well I wouldn't consider masturbation... sex? When people claim sex is a need, they are generally not including masturbation. I understand people needing relief of the sort.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 02:45 AM
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do you think women at the bar are forming "genuine" attraction? and not just thinking, "oh he's okay looking and i want (any)dick?" i suppose being "acceptable" looking is enough validation for men these days though
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 02:43 AM
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you can estimate how much junkfood it will take to make you have problems. validation will be different based on a person. sexual validation even moreso. it's not quantifiable. does getting sexually validated confirm you are worthy of life and happiness? do people who don't get sex think they are not worthy of life and happiness? or is it a case by case basis?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 02:41 AM
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how much sex does a man need to be healthy number of sex/period of time
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 02:39 AM
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use the search function and search need.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 02:38 AM
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the man has the agency to pick an escort he wants and is attracted to. the average man asking around the bar has to take what he can get.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 02:37 AM
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as far as im concerned you just made that term up. you called it primal needs. why does this matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 02:31 AM
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fair point. why can't i assume they simply utilize available services?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 02:30 AM
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what reasons that can't be fufilled with a prostitute?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 02:29 AM
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many men cannot get a woman who is interested in a fwb a sugar daddy is sex-work like, so i count it as under my umbrella.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 02:28 AM
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like a hook-up/ONS?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 02:27 AM
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how is say, seeing a prostitute different from seeing getting a spontaneous one-night stand? you pay the prostitute. she has the right to reject you, but she takes it and you fuck. you buy a girl a drink and ask her to hook-up. she has the right to reject you, but she takes it and you fuck. you know nothing about the personhood of each one. the second might have a tad stronger bond based on initial attraction, but that bond is barely better than the first (arguable first could be better even)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 02:27 AM
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why is this a poor comparison?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 02:22 AM
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Example?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 02:21 AM
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? yes people break laws but they get punished for it. if someone assaults a retail worker they should be pursued for it. if someone assaults a sex worker they should be pursued for it. are we disagreeing?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 02:21 AM
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Men want sex and to feel desired. If he can't get both, why not get one? settling for a low value woman if she desires you why wouldnt one feel desired?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 02:20 AM
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biological craving =/= need there are many biological cravings that are not "needs." they are just bodily impulses.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 02:18 AM
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what evidence do you have that male loneliness and dating problems are the same as in places without the legalization?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 02:15 AM
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🤝
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 02:14 AM
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agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 02:13 AM
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normal relationships are already transactional. a normal relationship has the same physical intimacy as a paid one either way.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 02:13 AM
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i list these because these results are unfavorable for the women. the idea is that the man will pursue a prostitute instead of leading on/lying to a woman that she is desirable. they may both be undesirable, but I would assume a prostitute is at least physically attractive since that's her job.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 02:12 AM
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Men need sex for validation then it's not a need. junk food has evidence it will kill and harm your body over time. validation is an abstract social concept that is construed in someone's head. there’s nothing more to sex and to relationships with women and so they shouldn’t improve themselves why should men have to improve themselves? whether sex and relationships with women should be worth "more" is up to an individual. many are happy thinking nothing of them. I don't understand why prostituti…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 02:10 AM
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assuming you are in a relationship, and you left said relationship, would you seek out one-night stands/hookups to fufill your sexual needs?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 02:03 AM
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to be honest, I haven't heard from people there. it's nevada. this is why there needs to be regulation, so that police can get involved if there is more crime within sex work.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 02:02 AM
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What do you mean by "fundamental need."
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 02:00 AM
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doesn't this just mean there needs to be more regulation surrounding this market?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 01:59 AM
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It will devalue sex as a whole, which causes womens dating market value to depreciate. not about egos or anything like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 01:58 AM
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And yet women's value didn't deflate, men didn't suddenly get partners of equal standing and the "moment's notice" isn't exactly like that. There's a queue, lol. what you linked is a guide to the red light district, not how the dating market functions within the country. do you have reasoning as to why you think men didn't get more equal partners?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 01:57 AM
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the issue is the lack of sex. whether it is related to the traits you listed is abstract. generally common denominator seems to be predominantly sex rather than those.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 01:53 AM
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how does that lead to inflation and not depreciation? is sex and intimacy not more available?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 01:52 AM
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Yes, if women's emotional needs were not being fufilled at a large scale I think it's reasonable indeed.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 01:51 AM
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do i pick and choose which opinions are legitimate and which ones aren't? internet statements are all equal in legitimacy unless you are comparing them with statments that include research sources.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 01:50 AM
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do you have one of these studies on hand.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 01:49 AM
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if you're just gonna argue with your own imagination i will leave you to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 01:48 AM
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maybe legalizing prostitutes can introduce some more variety and competitiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 01:47 AM
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by all means, sex as a "need" is a socially constructed concept as a whole. what do you believe to be the biological reality?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 01:46 AM
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opens good job opportunities for women if it regulated well. I can't say anything to this cause I'm not a man. personally I was under the impression that sex isn't a "need" but I am more inclined to believe that it is after men say it so often. you'd have to take it up with the guys on this one.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 01:41 AM
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in what ways is the dating market there notably worse than typical?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 01:37 AM
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so are the dating markets there good or bad? is there any legitimate evidence nothing changed after the legalization of prostitution?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 01:37 AM
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generally women can experience celibacy for extended periods of time without feeling as distressed as women. this is why it's talked so one-sidedly. women want sex but I don't think I've ever seen them describe it as a fundamental need like men do. they need sex with their partners, but if they don't have partners it would seem most wouldn't consider it a need at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 01:36 AM
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deflates dating market value. men being inherently desperate "inflates" their value, but once you remove the desperation for sex theoretically things even out. not about ego exactly. free flowers and romantic dinners is not a legitimate need, or at least I've never seen women demand for it. personally I've never felt the need for this.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 01:32 AM
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I can't argue with this since I'm not a man. But clearly there are various reasons men want sex, and while this could be one of them it's not so universal. <image> \) from another man. I don't this desireability is the core of wanting sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 01:17 AM
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could you give me a specific example of a region with legal prostitution but poor dating market?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 01:13 AM
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do you have a number to back this up. first I've heard things are dysfunctional outside the states.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 01:11 AM
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it's not like the point of sex work is having sex with people you want to have sex with. the woman is having a transactional sexual relationship with him. so long as the woman is not being taken advantage of (ex: pimping) then I see no issues with it
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 01:11 AM
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undesirable man pays a women to have sex i dont see why it's not okay a man has sex with undesirable women without telling her he does not desire her, is my issue. he needs sexual satisfaction so he lies to get it, and so she gets ghosted. you could argue that a white lie doesnt hurt anybody tho
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 01:03 AM
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this is why men in my generation are completely undatable.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 08:14 PM
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its not quite the same. when someone says to a man "you [verb] like a girl" it generally points to his incompetence or his lack of ability while calling a girl manly is an insult, its generally not insulting her capability but insulting the way she is behaving. it can also be insulting her appearence, but doesnt really insult her character really.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 03:27 AM
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can you explain what you're trying to say in this comment ive reread it several times now op: sex is not a need girls then: we can live without sex!! girls now(?): sex is a need (flipped to the other side) op again: sex is not a need like either you misunderstood op (not likely) or they did not flip sides??
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 03:25 AM
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he is strong. she is weak. how is this working out for you exactly
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 02:12 AM
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?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 01:19 AM
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I am absolutely taking you seriously, big 6'2 man who would absolutely dominate me through the screen you're getting a masters at 30 😭 you're a bit late for that arent you?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 11:00 PM
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yes, and? because he is stronger and more superior.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 10:58 PM
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so one being incredibly dominant over the other, and the other one having 0 agency or will of their own are equal choices to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 08:39 PM
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definitions are definitions because we as a society decided to all agree that this [word] means such and such meaning. even if i were to percieve femininity as [meaning], it doesnt change the fact that for most people, femininity is what i describe above.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 08:33 PM
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source? also the bible was used often as an excuse to be violent towards your wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 08:28 PM
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Did you read my post? I explain clearly that if a feminine women were to have feminine traits So if a feminine woman should exist, they would have had to fight against social norms that regard her as inferior, 2nd place, and a loser compared to men. Her self-esteem would be 0, her pride would be nothing, and that’s probably how feminine women are supposed to be as well i am not advoating to become trans, since you clearly misunderstood.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 08:26 PM
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women dont need no man transwoman wins sports competition women complain transwomen shouldn't be in sports women still dont need no man (if they r transphobic they actually want the "man" to be gone) did you graduate highschool?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 08:25 PM
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whether anyone is into ego driven women is irrelevant. im wondering if you even read my post? What does femininity have to offer to women besides attracting men (who also don’t have much to offer)? is the final line in my post. yes calling men girls is a common insult even at my age. calling each other pussys or bitches for behaving inferior is common. calling a woman "macho" isnt an insult because being called macho isnt an insult. saying something like "he [verb] like a girl" is an insult to h…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 08:21 PM
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femininity is superior to masculinity. explain. women who are feminine are bound to be talked over and not listened to.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 08:14 PM
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Motivation to do what.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 08:14 PM
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Women get benefits from behaving like men by being: DOMINANT: She competes for her position in the workplace and advocates for herself DEMANDING: She demands to get as much as she can from the position she is in UNCARING: She disregards the struggles of others and pushes herself forward, not letting others drag her behind I think many in these comment sections are failing to see femininity outside of the scope of relationships. The only benefit femininity has is relationshipwise; otherwise, bein…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 08:13 PM
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women are able to compete and do better than men because they get support all the time what does this have to do with masc vs femm women bitch about transwomen being better at them at sports despite being "masc" so women are still being masc. nothing you say argues that women should be feminine. it just says women suck even though they are masculine. it has nothing to do with masc vs fem, you just want to argue women are incompetent, which is a different argument. women will always be inferior t…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 08:09 PM
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ya got an example? of a woman going from masc to femme for the right man
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 06:46 PM
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give an example of women being held up higher than men in history.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 05:48 PM
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women get benefits for being women this has nothing to do with femininity vs masculinity actually nothing you are saying has anything to do with femm vs masc. you are simply talking about gender wars without discussing whether or not woman are engaging with masc behavior. you are arguing about some other thing. i think i may have triggered you, given you are going on a tangent on something completely irrelevant. you are even venting for no reason, which is more irrelevant. dont understand how th…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 05:21 PM
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there are endless compilations online of "father instincts" "father protects family" but when a woman does it they are never honored because of course a mother is maternal. we know this is true even in animals. just because you want to wallow in your self pity doesnt mean u can say reality is whatever you want it to be. if adopting masculininty is going backwards why cant you adopt femininity and go forwards. it will put you ahead of the pack by the mile.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 05:11 PM
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being empathetic and kind if a feminine trait. women are masculine now; of course they are totally indifferent to male struggles. and to say that because it happened when they were kids is incredibly dismissive. regardless, adopting a masc mindset prevails all the way through highschool because being submissive in k-12 doesnt work past gradeschool either. you probably don't know because you're a man but calling a woman butch/manly is an incredibly strange insult without context. for example, say…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 05:08 PM
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did you not finish writing your comment before hitting the submit button
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 05:00 PM
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🤷‍♀️ they told they need sex so I believed them if you argue with them they say it makes them suffer from great emotional and mental distress and that's why men kill themselves at such a high rate (because no sex)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 04:46 PM
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I'm a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 04:14 PM
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are we really comparing women to dogs when men are the ones who try to hump everything when in leadership.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 04:07 PM
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there are plenty of femme lesbians but you're right. i think women don't really care about whether a fellow woman is kinda masc or femme tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 03:59 PM
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Is the commander not superior to his men? Does he not stomp on them for motivation? a woman putting herself in danger for her child is a given. dunno where you are sourcing this virtue. a man even caring for his kid will be hailed as virtuous. women were once feminine and adopted masculine qualities to get somewhere. im not asking him to be gay. you're free to suffer in your masculine life if that is what you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 03:58 PM
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women are masculine so that they can live in the modern world. how is a woman supposed to live in a conusmerist, individualist society when they live off a man and can't make money? how is a woman supposed to get in higher-paying positions, go out with friends, do whatever they want, without being masculine and girl bossing her job? i don't understand what you're trying to argue. their masculinity isn't a front just because they are supported. its still masculine behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 03:52 PM
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i guess i will agree?... so when pressure from men isnt there, women engage in high-feminine behavior. idk. i said caring for appearence if feminine behavior..
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 03:46 PM
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I don't think being boys being called girly as a knock to their status affects the social worth of femininity among girls at all to be honest. why? cant really argue w the rest.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 03:43 PM
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to be fair they are very violent to one another.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 03:42 PM
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patriarchy built a society that pressured women into being masculine.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 03:41 PM
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if you tell a man he is caring its a compliment. if you tell a woman she's a leader it's also a compliment. explain?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 03:37 PM
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i never said men have it easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 03:32 PM
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this is a joke?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 03:29 PM
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this is completely irrelevant to my arguement. women benefit from being masculine. so they will be masculine. being masculine is hard. but women are clearly still benefitting greatly from it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 03:29 PM
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when women try to be masculine they end up in manager positions, high paying jobs, and a life not reduced to servitude. sure maybe worse versions of men. but at least not a feminine woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 03:25 PM
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most men are attracted to most women because they can stick his dick in her. acting like he would actually care about me after having sex with me is laughable, regardless if his tier in society. most women only want you for your money anyway. aren't you redpill?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 03:17 PM
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honestly this answer kinda sucks. most women were once feminine but changed gears once it became actively detrimental to them. to this day the environments where women can actually be feminine are rare. hoping that a masculine man a feminine woman gets together and balances perspectives and personalities is...optimistic. i hope he isnt masculine enough to step all over her and just straight up change her perspectives to his. in what world was this ever balanced? what is a woman supposed to do be…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 03:14 PM
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women are vulnerable because having a submissive personality means getting taking advantage of and getting your opinion stomped on a masculine man has the dominance to reject and argue for his way. what are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 03:09 PM
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i think men having soft hands is great honestly
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 03:08 PM
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Most women grow up feminine and enjoying femininity. The reason they stop being feminine isnt usually because of feminininist propoganda but external factors that existed in her life at the time. for example. girls were generally made fun of by boys for enjoying dolls and such. boys would exclude girls from groups because they think their feminine hobby is dumb. boys call other guys girls when they are inferior. also with boys being more masculine, if you continue to be feminine you will get sto…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 03:07 PM
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so it's actually about them being attracted, not intimacy and affection a prostitute too is an actor doing her best to convince you to have sex with her (she has much reward to be gotten)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 03:00 PM
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could you offer me a place to start such a reading
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 02:59 PM
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being in a feminine state leaves you vulnerable to taking advantage of. so clearly happiness is not there. I hope you are aware, most women grew up feminine, but changed not because feminism told them to, but because of real life factors that punished them for femininity.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 02:58 PM
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it's about the ability to get touched. I can get touched whenever I want but will it be affectionate and intimate? no. because most men are down to fuck to use my body, not for affection and intimacy. same old.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 02:43 PM
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why aren't they supposed to be compared.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 02:31 PM
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this comment offers nothing. sure, shift blame to feminism. still doesn't explain in what ways femininity is equal or superior to masculinity. if you read the post, I said attracting men is worthless since men these days have nothing to offer.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 02:27 PM
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false.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 02:25 PM
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unlike women men require sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 02:24 PM
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this is a total copout if your primary struggle is no woman touch. if you were actually desperate or needed it, it's an option to consider. so long as prostitutes are still willing to touch you, you haven't touched the bottom yet. most people would argue women aren't gonna be attracted to you anyway. you're not Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 02:22 PM
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yea
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 05:58 AM
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absolutely. unless you have an example that can convince me otherwise? rarely is leader/follower dynamic not having a superior/inferior dynamic.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 05:49 AM
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to be fair. a cook can totally serve their own food. a waiters got nothing
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 05:47 AM
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trying to work with the contrived idea of feminism in context of this subreddit, tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 05:46 AM
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what does a man offer to an individual woman, that trumps the benefits a woman gets from having masculine traits (which would be a reason women should embrace femininity).
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 05:44 AM
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i don't know what you mean. i'd like for the definition of femininity to be changed but for now asserting yourself is a masc trait. i agree here too. so long as we live in a patriarichal construct femininity is inferior. in this case we would actually have to change that fact. it's a bit hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 05:41 AM
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i want an example of what a man does have to offer. popular notion around here is that women don't really need what men are offering, which is why there is a struggle. and I guess you're right on this aspect actually. i grew up in the church where i was told women should not be managing finances (my mom managed finances anyway) so i figured it was probably the same back then.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 05:39 AM
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saying assertiveness is a masc trait is patriarichal but im being objective. we live in a patriarichal society so yes it is masc.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 05:33 AM
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the redpill goal is kinda to be the masculiniest masculine man. thus, taking it up with them (masculinity experts) gives answers. and yes, sometimes there do be a needle in the haystack actually. but its pretty rare. i'd say a story like this stands out because women's love stories are so common. men getting shirtless is far more immodest than women in little strange clothes. im from the midwest and guys getting half-naked for the fun of it in winter is not unusual. sometimes women would like to…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 05:31 AM
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here's a reason we don't reach out for help why yes, being masculine means having higher highs and lower lows. but being able to hit higher highs makes it superior. no, i didn't mean you should actually become a femboy to get companionship. i mean adopting the traits i listed. since femininity is not inferior, why not take some of those nice feminine traits. for example, adopting a more friendly ingroup bias (feminine) would probably be beneficial. don't need to change your gender identity.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 05:22 AM
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is this the kinda divine femininity thing
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 05:12 AM
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lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 05:12 AM
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can you summarize your claim in 2-3 sentences.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 05:04 AM
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if feminists want to say masc in women was desireable why would a tomboyish woman get pushed out of the convo?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 05:03 AM
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inferior/superior has nothing to do with attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 05:02 AM
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id like an example of this id also like an example of such offering i suppose single motherhood is the extremist pov of this complaint. the main complaint is women are more uncommitted than ever, choosing to share a guy over getting in a good relationship (60% single men, 30% single women)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 05:01 AM
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true. which would mean once again, femininity takes an inferior role...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 04:58 AM
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can't get anything done without being assertive...?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 04:57 AM
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who do you think of when you think, people that view femininity in a positive light.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 04:56 AM
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People, even your friends, are going to say: "lmao, eat shit. Sucks to be you." are you sure you don't just have awful friends. i dont think femininity is synonymous with having a decent friendgroup. regardless, even if it were "true" these men who are in a ruthless world still consider women inferior to them. I'm not saying it's inferior it's just life on hard mode. so what you're saying isn't even arguing with my point. so it's not inferior,it's... superior? and the meme is becoming feminine i…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 04:55 AM
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men in love (joke). anyway, you should check out r/marriedredpill and how being stoic and dominant is the core of redpill and not being a beta i dont know what point you're trying to make here anymore. caring is a feminine trait. it seems we agree?? i would consider demanding to be liked regardless of appearence as a traditionally masc trait, but you could say femininity is being redefined and the trait is feminine now? i can get with that, i guess. i guess it would be anecdotal but men getting …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 04:47 AM
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yea and
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 04:41 AM
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i got this answer a few times but they never really explain in what ways feminists are wrong. maybe you can be... the one? (who explains why feminists are wrong)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 04:39 AM
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this seems more of a taking-advantage-of-the-position-you're-given than being dominant in actuality lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 04:38 AM
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fun answer. can't refute it until I watch it. you've tricked me!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 04:38 AM
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So does a man having a partner give him a "somewhere" to lead cause i dont really get it. wouldnt there be no where to lead in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 04:37 AM
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then what are you saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 04:35 AM
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This actually answered my own question cause I realize the benefits of being feminine are simple- so you can be friends with other women! ironically i made this post and then went to chat with my friends about girly shit lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 04:35 AM
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women are able to drive the market because they have taken a masculine role. if you want to be a consumer, you have to work to get money. if you want to get lots of money, you have to be "masculine," serving a "feminine" role would never get you very far. this is why i argue women benefit more from being masculine. how often, do you think, the man's whole check is handed off to the woman? masculinity is often about the "agency," the fact you have the agency to be the one doing the attracting is …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 04:30 AM
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i wouldn't consider it "better" but rather superior in a tierlist, winner type of sense in an individualist world. as the traits listed above, being submissive and nuture focused means you focus on bringing up another person, so thus you are always in a supportive role. a feminine woman lacks agency and relies on her dominant counterpart. she can never prioritize herself or love herself more than the person she serves. in comparison, shouldering responsibility (your OWN responsibility) seems lik…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 04:19 AM
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ig ill concede on this, but idk if marilyn monroe is a good example of this. regardless, it would seem they are feminine despite assertiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 04:12 AM
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i'd argue this is a recent development to counter existing prejudice. how old are you? I certainly didn't get the same education.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 04:10 AM
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my post: femininity is regarded as inferior to masculinity. y/n and why your comment: women who are masc aren't datable and are mean relevance: women should be more femme bc men who are decent would be more attracted to them and it would result in better relationships is this right?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 04:09 AM
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This is pretty interesting I suppose. But rather, when a man falls out of the rigid masculine performance, they are "reduced" to a girl. But when a girl doesn't fall in line within the feminine performance, she's rarely considered a "man" unless she's actually engaging in mannish behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 04:04 AM
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Elaborate?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 03:55 AM
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Elaborate?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 03:54 AM
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Elaborate?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 03:54 AM
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men with cooperative submissive partner will help her orgasm better are you joking. be honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 03:54 AM
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my parents are remarkably egalitarian. regardless, yes men are submissive to their wives which is regarded as feminine behavior in male-spaces. didn't say women only care about family, just an example (and referring to how women no longer want motherhood) don't know why this is relevant. yes women demand men to enjoy their disgusting apperearences. masculine trait (demanding, doesnt care about appearence). i dunno where you are contriving hypocrisy from (you may have been triggered and that's my…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 03:51 AM
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it was a yes no question
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 03:43 AM
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this comment is in relevance to dating dynamics which has nothing to do with my argument (or at least, irrelevant to my last claim which is about dating)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 03:38 AM
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I'd argue that if this were true the environment became so hostile that women had to stand up and change the dynamic for their own safety, leading to our current state.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 03:34 AM
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instead of giving me a flowery explanation can you give me a literal example you see in real life. capitalism breeds individuality; femininity is a supportive role. if a woman wants to be individual, how is she to be feminine? or you can explain to me some traits that equalize feminnity and masculinity.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 03:30 AM
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betas are inferior, so women... are inferior? so feminity is inferior?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 03:28 AM
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If this is so, can you explain some ways feminity is equal to masculinity? clearly I have eaten feminist propaganda. prove me wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 03:27 AM
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who? they wouldn't be considered masc, at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 03:09 AM
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why is a man inferior when he is a beta, but a woman is not
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 03:07 AM
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can you explain how this is relevant. this feels tangential.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 03:04 AM
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I'll go on a tangent but I don't think femininity can ever really be embraced from a capitalistic aspect. redefining feminity would be more effective (but realistically hard to accomplish)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 03:02 AM
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? don't know what your trying to say. not really trying to say women should be
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 02:39 AM
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exactly my point
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 02:36 AM
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if it was a women who was the bullheaded one and the man who was the submissive obedient one, you don't think he'd be like a beta of some kind
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 02:33 AM
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also it is definitely a feminine trait to be submissive and shutting up. what? being loud and demanding is a masc trait.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 02:30 AM
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more masculine = more promiscuous+ lower standards every man stands to benefit from it imo
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 02:25 AM
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If it was just one masculine person, the feminine counterpart would be the one obeying and complying with the bullheaded dominant one, no? How does that make femininity not inferior?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 02:21 AM
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So it's not actually touch itself doing anything for you, but it's the inability to get touched? Sorry for your struggle. But since you're reaching such an age, have you not tried prostitution for your needs? It's always an option, you're not forced to never be touched.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 02:01 AM
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is this a strange question? you seem to be implying that your mental problems would indeed be resolved with touch i don't experience any touch from men besides my dad and i don't have any problems without it. just wondering why this particular trait is always reiterated by men, what are girl cooties doing to improve your life. is it validating etc?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 01:54 AM
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if you regularly experienced the touch of a woman, would your depression go away? whats the difference between female touch and male touch?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 01:39 AM
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blackpill I'm holding out a little hope that my unicorn exists. but otherwise I'd like a decently paying remote job so I have the free time to travel with friends, lounge, or have fun with hobbies (I'd like to make a video game, sounds fun!)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 03:42 PM
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Is men giving their lives to women and children not because society prioritizes women and children and thus men are socially conditioned into prioritizing them over their own lives, and that it should not be so? It's misandry.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 03:25 PM
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we 🤝
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 12:13 AM
1

? I never tried to equalize.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 12:12 AM
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NO. Men do not just desire the top 20% how so
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 05:22 PM
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women are picky, because they are unwilling to settle. men are not picky, because they are willing to settle.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 05:20 PM
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I see, you are talking about the possible changable variables rather than the solid, unchangable aspects of men. However, women are highly attracted to status, money, capability. These are all highly variable and not unchangable aspects of men, and the hypergamy in women is undeniably tied to status. This is why many hideous famous men still have hot girlfriends. It is somewhat related, but it's kind of a tangent on its own. It doesnt refute that men desire the top 20% the most and settle for le…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 05:19 PM
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I can agree with this, I never really said settling was a bad thing or a problem. Just that it is something men do, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 05:14 PM
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never said woman good. its that men are also bad, like women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 05:13 PM
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never claimed men are just as hypergamous as women, and if i did that's my bad. men do not account for status when choose the top 20% of attractive women. majority of women do not dress and act correctly enough for men to be attracted to them (obesity), so men are not attracted to the average. even if this can be changed, it doesnt change the fundamental fact that men aren't attracted to the average.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 04:11 PM
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men are not picky because they are willing to settle. I say this in the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 04:09 PM
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this is not an attempt to say female struggles are on the same level as male ones. im sorry i triggered you this way. i am merely stating men are attracted to the top 20% most attractive women, is all. Men, regularly experiencing lack of options, lower their standards below what would be in their realm of fuckability. explains why men swipe on such a large population, especially considering dating app dynamics.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 04:08 PM
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Greece, Sparta, Islamic cultures, etc etc generally prioritizes men and thus develop highly homoerotic cultures. They don't turn gay, they just end up engaging in gay behavior (circumstantially bisexual, if you will) i never talk about this and i dont know why its relelvent to men not being attracted to the top 20%. I dont disagree on this front (but doesn't impact my claim at all)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 04:06 PM
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so when there are statistics, all women are lying, and all men are telling the truth. I am more willing to take stats at face value. divorce initiator statistically don't show whether or not she's setting her marriage on fire. Following your logic, it would only show that women would rather switch partners, while men would like to keep his marriage while cheat with other women on the side. unless, of course, men never cheat, and women are lying about not cheating. modern culture (especially mano…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 04:03 PM
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I never claimed men are turning down partners. The whole post is talking about how men will settle for unattractive partners, not turn them down. I think you may be getting triggered; I never broached the topic as to whether women are dating on easy mode or not, or if it's easier for them or not. I think women do have it easier (men are willing to settle) and that's undeniable. I also never talk about whether self-improvement is a feasible option for either part of the popoulation.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 04:00 PM
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so when post-wall women get with beta, not settling? breaks 80/20 rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 02:30 PM
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men, when given OPTIONS, react best to the BEST OPTION, the image of women. men, with very documented behavior of this, when lacking options, turn to MEN. if anything, this would prove my claim. Men are aroused to their best option available. Men, regularly experiencing lack of options, lower their standards below what would be in their realm of fuckability. to "men liking women"
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 02:29 PM
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I'm talking about military/all boys school/etc. Men will be aroused enough (due to lack of action) to fuck whatever available. being able to fuck anything out of lack of action, or lack of good options, explains why "able to have sex with" doesn't = attraction. irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 02:23 PM
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it doesn't matter if it's things within their control. that's still the average woman. irrelevant unless you can explain why it's relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 02:20 PM
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I'm not arguing hypergamy, because there is no equivalent. by top 20% of women, I mean in terms of appearance. also, the idea women "chose" anything in that time period is laughable. are you joking? she probably got sold off by her dad to the highest bidder.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 02:19 PM
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Men, regularly experiencing lack of options, lower their standards below what would be in their realm of fuckability. men, willing to settle. women are not, so they tell the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 02:15 PM
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woman, post 30, settles with beta bc she can't get Chad (settling) man, can't get Stacy, settles with some girl (not settling for some reason) men too, set marriages on fire for younger women that they think are available to them (men cheat statistically more often, too?)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 02:14 PM
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Men, regularly experiencing lack of options, lower their standards below what would be in their realm of fuckability. at men finding heavier women attractive and every strange thing that should be unattractive, tbh also to the fact she can enter another relationship whenever she pleases
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 02:12 PM
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Men, regularly experiencing lack of options, lower their standards below what would be in their realm of fuckability. if settling implies someone should have better than what they have women who hit the wall at 30 aren't "settling" for beta bucks, apparently. not sure why the semantics of settling is being put into question. they were never able to lock Chad, were never on his level, etc. a man's self awareness that he cannot bag Stacy literally means he settles for less because he knows he cann…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 02:11 PM
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Men, regularly experiencing lack of options, lower their standards below what would be in their realm of fuckability.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 02:06 PM
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Men, regularly experiencing lack of options, lower their standards below what would be in their realm of fuckability.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 02:05 PM
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this is a bit anecdotal. can you give a little more detail on the specifics?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 02:04 PM
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"men arent attracted to most women because of this claim" "um this isn't true" "why" "because I said so" "what about my claim" "I didn't read your claim fuck your claim your dumb and in denial"
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 02:02 PM
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every man on here markets the truth and allegedly most men are subjected to liberal brainwashing they don't even know the truth of their manhood anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 02:00 PM
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this is a fairly special mindset to have from men in my age group.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 01:59 PM
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where in this comment did she claim women are wonderful?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 01:58 PM
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explain.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 01:55 PM
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so it is settling, even if they chase someone way out of their league? like what most men would do, or have thought of doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 01:55 PM
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not bad. generally men claim that their attraction models extends is far less picky than women's, and that women's are selfish and unforgiving while a man will love whoever they can get! I think this notion is untrue, or at least a half-lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 01:54 PM
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the point is romance functions to serve a man's pride/ego (nothing wrong with that) rather than his romantic intentions being out of devotion for the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 01:50 PM
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this kinda supports my claim?!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 01:46 PM
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this is so lol bro
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 01:46 PM
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I guess it would have to be anecdotal. Men on this sub largely claim suffering from the following: must have partner -> partners available to them are unattractive -> suffering increased also claim suffering from FOMO of the following: can't experience mutual losing of virginity can't experience youth can't experience sex with a woman they are attracted to this would also fall in line with husbands who hate their wives, notable culture from before our generation. it generally points to how men s…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 02:39 AM
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yup.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 02:28 AM
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romance makes women nut harder and better -> man feels extra validated and proud of himself was my point. and yea, it's nothing new!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 02:27 AM
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Why is it that when women settle for betas (their match), it's called settling then?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 02:24 AM
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she probably cant get as aroused, but she can probably get aroused, in general. similar with men, i'd assume.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 01:36 AM
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Top 20% of women is probably the following: fit and healthy voluptuous in the chest and hip area thin waist very, very attractive face no blemishes, proportional, no akward shapes/sizes same for all men, barring fetishists(outliers)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 01:34 AM
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study on female arousal - general findings is that female arousal is bias to their orientation, but still showed a lot of flexibility in what they found arousing. it's not difficult for women to get aroused. arousal is a poor measurement for "attraction" regardless. money and commitment dont increase arousal either.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 01:32 AM
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This is my mistake. I wasn't aware hypergamy was this deep; I thought it only meant the 8020 rule. I never mention hypergamy in my post, to be fair. Yes, I do describe that both men and women want the best of their counterpart. It's my point! Male biology orients men to simply fucking as many women as possible regardless of their n count. he would choose the sexiest since that would be would stimulates him the most. in modern world, we have minmaxed the most stimulating women, he settles for a s…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 12:59 AM
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I wouldn't consider those outliers since tomboys, goths, mommy's will have generally the same top20% sexy body just in different clothes.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 12:54 AM
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Women are often stimulated by what they can get lol
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 12:44 AM
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men would want to protect their sisters and mothers and families in general and not really about "loving" women in the romantic sense?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 12:42 AM
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Men are easily stimulated by other men if there are no women. Being able to stimulate to someone doesn't neccesarily prove that that's what someone is actually attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 12:37 AM
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To learn more about men!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 12:36 AM
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I would consider it not an outlier if most men were chubby chasers?? Im pretty sure chubby chasers, foot fetishists, etc are considered outliers even outside the context I am talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 12:35 AM
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Men become pretty cute too when women arent available, apparently.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 12:34 AM
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I'm realizing that while hypergamy describes the 80/20 rule, I don't neccesarily argue that men are hypergamous. I'm just stating that they have the same attraction model as women, hence I never mention hypergamy in my post. It's my bad to have not noticed initially.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 12:33 AM
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While the 80/20 rule generally describes hypergamy, I did not liken it to hypergamy in my post, because I'm just describing the attraction model without relation to hypergamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 12:31 AM
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Just like how women desperately desire to secure Chad, men desire to secure a top 20 into a functional role in his life. I can agree with this.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 12:30 AM
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In your case, it starts to fall out of the conventional grading zone. Just like how men are typical graded on status, wealth looks, women are rigidly graded on just looks. If you've begun to prioritize things that are no longer superficial, I think you may be special.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 12:28 AM
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Men, regularly experiencing lack of options, lower their standards below what would be in their realm of fuckability. men dont find most women attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 12:24 AM
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explain.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 12:22 AM
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What makes you think I would? Im virgin and a woman, pretty clear I have at least a mild avoidance to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 12:22 AM
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desire for pussy/desire to fill the hole =/= the desire i talk about.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 12:20 AM
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i will consider fetish to be an outlier. if it's in general, its merely and adaptation and fetishization of the average woman to convince himself chubby women are more attractive than they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 12:19 AM
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I am talking about an individual man, not men as a whole. Regardless, a top% woman would have the whole package, big ass big tits etc. So she would have more "attraction points," no? you can use the amount of effort he puts into the relationship men pump and dump using this strategy all the time. also, effort is a means to secure your partner, but doesnt really disprove that he would be attracted to another. since men have a need to keep that companionship position closed, it's reasonable he wou…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 12:17 AM
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Men, regularly experiencing lack of options, lower their standards below what would be in their realm of fuckability. how does men being better at settling disprove my point? does that not prove it? beta dudes becoming stepdad out of desperation/loneliness exactly proves my point. did you read the post? it's not too late.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 11:30 PM
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I'll concede the percentage. 35% may be more reasonable.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 11:29 PM
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That's really good to hear!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 11:25 PM
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This is not the reason birth rate and marriage is plummeting.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 11:24 PM
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I think you're a really good example of the coolidge effect that is being thrown around this comment section.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 11:24 PM
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I feel like men get erections for a lot of things... but i wouldn't know I think female arousal can also be inconsistent sometimes. But also, making yourself sexually aroused is not hard. Isn't there a popular study around here that shows women get aroused to honestly.. kinda anything? it's just not a lot of arousal?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 11:23 PM
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I guess it would have to be anecdotal. Men on this sub largely claim suffering from the following: must have partner -> partners available to them are unattractive -> suffering increased also claim suffering from FOMO of the following: can't experience mutual losing of virginity can't experience youth can't experience sex with a woman they are attracted to this would also fall in line with husbands who hate their wives, notable culture from before our generation. it generally points to how men s…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 11:15 PM
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Men, regularly experiencing lack of options, lower their standards below what would be in their realm of fuckability.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 10:35 PM
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A top 20% woman, as defined by predominantly redpill beliefs, is a woman with low to none n-count, beautiful, agreeable, feminine, and very sexy. Long legs, big butt, pretty with no make up, large breasts, thin waist, perfectly thin and perfectly fat. Maybe has weak genes so her children all look like the husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 10:34 PM
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ill take elaborate anecdotal evidence. what have you experienced that makes you think it's not true for the majority of men, that can't be refuted by the fact men have no options?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 10:31 PM
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If a man saw a woman with large, nice breasts, and then saw a woman with a flat chest, you're telling me they would be lusted after the same? Are you sure? I don't understand what amount of effort and level of treatment have to do with what a man would prefer. I have never met such narccistic women. But, I will make a point that I would love to have these women be considered lower-tier because of their personality, but they're not because they are hot. But she is a "prize" because men are hyperg…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 10:30 PM
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well, they sure can't find the men around here.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 10:25 PM
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You don't desire the beautiful women, because they are not worth the cost. But you still find them more attractive, yes?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 10:23 PM
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happy cake day! I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 10:22 PM
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By alone I would have to mean romantically companionless. They can still have many hobbies that involve friends and family. Male loneliness is defined in this sub as lacking sex and romantic companionship, not friends. Men, regularly experiencing lack of options, lower their standards below what would be in their realm of fuckability. explains even distribution. where have I been proven wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 10:21 PM
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Here is a whole comment section you can read through that don't agree on male hypergamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 10:19 PM
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Well, do you have any info that refutes the points: men settle for less because they have no options oh theres only one point
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 10:18 PM
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Vulvas and vaginas age horribly. We don't know whats under the clothes.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 10:16 PM
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yes, but it would be natural to prioritize the most attractive available if it's there, right? modern era serves up a variety of images that makes the "hottest available" "available"(viewable) to everyone. So thus, in the modern age, men mate with less than perfect women knowing that there is one far more perfect, whereas in the past "less than perfect" was perfectly fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 10:15 PM
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I've been trying to understand this. There are not many quality women, so quality women are in the top 20%. Thus, the average man is not attracted to the average woman, and is hypergamous similarly. Which is my point?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 10:13 PM
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this actually somewhat refutes my point because I consume a lot of romantic fictions aimed towards men, and there is quite a diversity in women. I would say the level of attractiveness never changes, though. i also think men are prone to trying to sexualize women, so it's not surprising they cover many bases.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 10:11 PM
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personally I think it is bad and disingenuous, but I don't have relationship experience and can't say. I would refuse a relationship if this was the premise (and its why I'm a volcel).
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 10:09 PM
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I also primarily believe this.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 10:08 PM
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Can you rephrase this so I can understand what you're saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 09:41 PM
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so your point doesn't refute mine?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 09:40 PM
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Yes, so when the man gets bored, he will move on the the [next hottest option], no? Hugh Grant cheated on his wife with a younger woman. His wife was almost 30 (the wall). The women Arnold cheated with was younger as well. Since women are valued primarily by attractiveness and age, this makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 09:38 PM
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I guess it would have to be anecdotal. Men on this sub largely claim suffering from the following: must have partner -> partners available to them are unattractive -> suffering increased also claim suffering from FOMO of the following: can't experience mutual losing of virginity can't experience youth can't experience sex with a woman they are attracted to this would also fall in line with husbands who hate their wives, notable culture from before our generation. it generally points to how men s…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 09:27 PM
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This does not deny her point.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 09:22 PM
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Men, regularly experiencing lack of options, lower their standards below what would be in their realm of fuckability.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 09:21 PM
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I never really specifically categorized it, but from what I've seen on this sub, are you sure that is a blue pill theme? Because it certainly comes from reds a lot more. I would prefer it if men did not need women, or acted like they need women. It is my personal, and primary gripe with men of my generation.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 09:20 PM
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If that's the average for your dating group, and you don't desire them, then you are exhibiting preference for top%.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 09:17 PM
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I guess I can concede on this. I would argue this is how women experience it, but men need companionship in general and anyone willing to fill that gap is enough for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 09:16 PM
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Men, regularly experiencing lack of options, lower their standards below what would be in their realm of fuckability.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 09:15 PM
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ok
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 09:13 PM
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They aren't happy unless they are with the demographic they are attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 09:11 PM
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please elaborate.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 09:09 PM
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Doesn't this just point to women desiring consistency with the top 20%, while men desire to fuck as many top 20%ers as possible? And yes, the post describes specifically that men and women operate differently, because men are willing to settle and women aren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 09:08 PM
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They are not as happy as they could be, which is why the desire to cheat/divorce once the next prospective mate comes along.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 09:04 PM
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Please state what statistic this is.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 09:03 PM
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This is my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 09:03 PM
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Men prioritize having sex with the most attractive women they can get, but will also fuck the varieties that are on the side. Just because a guy has fucked an attractive woman only once, doesnt mean he will turn it down for 200lb girl instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 09:02 PM
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Men settle for women that are unattractive. Women don't settle for men that are unattractive(until post wall).
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 09:00 PM
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Why would hypergamy not be true, if what i'm arguing is true. Not sure if you read the content of the post past the title.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 08:59 PM
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men only have less immutable preferences because of their high libidos; this is why military and gender segregated areas become rampantly gay. Men are much more willing to settle for what they can get. Men want women more than women want men because if their incapability of being alone (i wrote this in the post), also pointing to the fact men are much more willing to settle. How does coolidge effect disprove this at all? If anything, it enables it further, since men find sexual novelty appealing…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 08:59 PM
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physical harm can be observed in just normal, maybe rougher than usual sex. will those men be prosecuted? prostitution only exists because that service is desired by men, so it is inherently patriarchal as it serves men specifically. I do believe in bodily autonomy and if a woman wants to sell her body she is free to do so with all the consequences. you can ban abortion and contraception so that men can have children outside their families, and also if they do so their wife is stuck with them un…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 03:18 PM
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This is 100% a good thing and I'm glad men will have an option they dont hate and are incapable of bringing suffering to. It's like 1 downside(population decline) compared to so many benefits(menial tasks outsourced, chores outsourced). Men can finally put women away and no longer have to suffer at their hands. <image> unironically long for this day. I'm sure some women would be like the one I'm the back but it won't be me.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 05:28 AM
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I made a mistake by saying hunter-gatherers, I mean when we were literally still monkey, more herbivorous, and still forming troops rather than groups. by the time hunter-gatherer colonies formed around, calorie count began to increase and thus the journey to patriarchy began. I do not plan to marry any man, there does not exist a "right" man. Consensual choking during sex is some kink thing, beating your wife for not cooking you meal right is different. cheating with a prostitute is also differ…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 05:16 AM
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patriarchy is theorized to have arose naturally due to the capitalistic nature of society. what you say is a half-truth and then a poorly contrived misunderstanding. when man first began agriculture (the dawn of society and capitalism), there was probably a surplus of calories which means women could have more children. more children = more workers = more calories = more children, which reduced the female role to mostly parenting compared to hunter-gatherer groups (see: monkies). however we no l…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 04:58 AM
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How does this track, at all? If you want to have as many viable offspring as possible, you would have a harem of women, or in the modern era, many baby-mamas. Following their generational impact, these offspring are more likely to have children in this way as well, spreading your genes further and wider then any stable family structure would. There is nothing monogamy does that improve the "quality," if anything, diversifying where your sperm goes is far more qualitative and meaningful. Where di…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 10:07 PM
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I guess a better question is in a relationship, do you(or would you) just stop desiring other women, as opposed to when you weren't in a relationship? Cause most men say no, and that they do still desire other women. Sexual satisfaction =/= sexual desires, you can by physically sexually satisfied, but it won't satiate sexual curiousities spawned outside of the borders of the relationship. According to many, they need companionship and fucking around isn't an actual option for a lot of men, so se…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 08:50 PM
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this post would be a nail in the coffin tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 08:12 PM
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There are various other factors and "inevitable cheating" is probably not even in the top 10 reasons I don't want to be a in relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 07:30 PM
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Banks have data and statistics. Loans don't change, but people do. In 10 years time, values, goals, desires inevitably change. This also happens over time; my youth will leave and I won't have what he wants anymore. Whether he follows up on the promise after 10 whole years is not as solid as what you describe.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 06:50 PM
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I think you'd be considered a guy with lucky virgin experiences. Many others would have a flipped experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 06:38 PM
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Not that I'm moving goalposts, but your answer doesnt answer the fact that men desire variety, which inevitably results in cheating. Nothing you describe prevents him from breaking his promise.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 06:37 PM
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None of this curbs his desire for variety. All he has to do is keep it a secret.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 06:19 PM
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men's pair bonding ability is far weaker than hers; she will be more attached than he is. hence, he will look elsewhere, especially since virgins with less experience are far more boring and less adventurous.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 06:15 PM
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not to be mean but there's litearally a guy flying around this comment section talking about how love =/= sex and he can love someone and also have sex with other people love is an abstract concept and can be defined in many ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 06:05 PM
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if I phrased it as "men desire to have lots of sex with lots of women, regardless of their relationship status," would you agree? No one desires to break the bond, but they still desire whatever that would break it. If they could make sure the bond "doesn't break" (keep it a secret, socially acceptable, etc), there's not much one could do to prevent it. I wouldn't say men "like" cheating, but the desire to "cheat" (not to break the bond, but whatever would break the bond) is there. I don't belie…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 05:58 PM
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my original post exactly describes why I can't get the relationship I want. don't know what blaming thing you're talking about so I'd want an example.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 05:11 PM
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unless you have been rejected by prostitutes you too are a volcel. there are no "good guys." (this is what this post it about) (male desires aren't "bad"?) i have no desire to be settled for by a guy who couldn't get what he truly desires (Chad lifestyle). I don't think there is a "worse" or "better." I am also not looking for a partner whatsoever. I also don't have the desire to have sex casually or with anybody i can get. Sorry we don't share this feeling. This privilege is indeed wasted on me…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 04:53 PM
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It'd be more akin to saying "All black people have better sun resistance" because it's a biological trait. There may be some outliers, but generally their genetic makeup makes for a better experience in the sun. it evolutionarily makes sense, and it's not some contemporary attribute. And to clarify, I think women are also driven this way. Hypergamy and biological desires. But women are less competitive by nature and seek specific men mostly out of sexual desire, whereas men admit very often thei…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 04:46 PM
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yes, I do plan on staying single forever. I digress, you see what I'm describing as a fundamental flaw, I just see it as a plain trait. I don't hate tigers for eating dogs, and I don't hate men for desiring many women or serving their egos. there's nothing wrong with men serving their own egos and pride. everyone does it, I would just argue men tend to prioritize it more. and obviously men care about things besides ego and pride, but the plight of male loneliness generally centers around how peo…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 04:12 PM
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you behave, but the desire to have another is natural if society didn't frown upon those who sought another, there is nothing holding men back
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 03:54 PM
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most men my parents age are married. as for within my circles, most men are not in any serious relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 03:03 PM
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not all men just like how not all women would cheat. but the risk is there and i'd rather not mingle.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 02:25 PM
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being with a man is like trying to leash a horny dog. he will constantly try to leave the relationship when the option is available, and he can't help it because that's just how he is wired. he prioritizes short term pleasures and his own ego. when he initiates the things you list, it's not for her happiness, but for his ego and pride, as well as getting his sexual satisfaction as soon as possible so he can change relationships to exercise his need for variety.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 02:25 PM
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you'd make a great partner since you're great at making people laugh
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 01:26 PM
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🤷‍♀️ if they're no interesting why do they want to fuck them? male interest stays at 20~(or whatever the youngest age limit possible) regardless how old they get
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 01:24 PM
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trading in her V doesn't change how the impact of the 3 points. she will still get cheated on.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 01:22 PM
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dunno what the first half of your statement has to do with the second half yes, me who aren't Chad would act like Chad if they could? very obvious
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 01:21 PM
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what isnt there to understand
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 03:51 AM
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rare because the opportunity to do so is rare. but if the opportunity is available, how is a woman supposed to keep a man from doing so?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 03:51 AM
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I know it's common, I was just curious about your source it's not like I don't believe you
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 03:50 AM
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if you only desire one, why were you at a sex party?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 03:49 AM
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it's not worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 03:48 AM
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you said 80% which is a pretty specific number. are you sure 80% is a common sense everyome knows by heart?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 03:33 AM
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have you ever experienced variety?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 03:32 AM
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no rational(biological imperative?) or emotional(validation?) reason for any men to do any of that? are you sure??
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 03:31 AM
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? so no link
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 03:29 AM
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I hope I end up as nobody's wife 🙏
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 03:09 AM
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link?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 03:06 AM
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sexual needs = variety one woman cannot do variety. what do
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 03:06 AM
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you misunderstand. I come from a family of very good male role models. my father and grandfather's are my favorite, and smartest people I know. men of my generation though? not dateable. or for any kind of long term investment anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 03:04 AM
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?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 02:21 AM
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the scenario above says this is her one flaw. she doesn't want him to desire other women
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 01:37 AM
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I didn't mean literally look, I mean "look for new partners" moreso. Unless, that's what you mean by "look" Balls Empty =/= Variety In Shape =/= 18yos It's good that you choose to commit to your partner. However, is your SMV high enough you can say you don't entertain the idea of screwing younger women, even they were very available for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 01:30 AM
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👍 envious you have such strong beliefs. sadly, there is no reason a redpillers statement has less merit than yours. I'll put a tally on the "no, men don't do that" side for you though
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 01:22 AM
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men 😔
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 01:13 AM
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given how easily men fall for said grifters, it's hard to say redpill isn't the "truth" about men or men's beliefs. even I find it hard to refute.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 01:03 AM
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bond is weak compared to fresh blood
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 12:58 AM
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ig discard was a poor word choice. more like, you could have both (younger degenate woman) and your unicorn wife. your wife would just be very sad is all. men care more about variety it's just hard for them to find willing partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 12:58 AM
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id rather not look for a man, but thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 12:54 AM
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I think you're underestimating the availability of casual sex. a man who is partnered already makes him more appealing to other (certain)women that some decent, consistent proximity (at work, at the gym) could land his dick in a hole.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 12:53 AM
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replacing the wife is specific, he could merely be having an affair with a mistress or something. thus, his cheating = her initiation of divorce finding men who desire long-term substance when they have the option for short-term variety is like looking for a needle in a haystack.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 12:47 AM
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I'm sort of assuming that in this scenario, the girl has chosen the potential™️ man instead of fucking the bad boys who have options. thus, him becoming a decently high managerial position isn't unreasonable imo someone from work should be unspecific, he's just in a position he can have a "business trip" and be at the strip club or fucking some other girl on a whim
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 12:37 AM
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idk how to prove to you that I'm a girl I just read a lot of repill stuffs
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 12:33 AM
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men who cheat are not regarded in red pill spaces as weak or shit, they are regarded as Chad, as objects of jealousy. I do believe most men would cheat if they had the comfortable environment to do so. why is it untrue? it's a natural desire for men. someone who won't at all(someone with far far too low a SMV for this to be an option)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 12:29 AM
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men choose monogamy since they can't live a Chad lifestyle. similarly, a man chooses to live a moral one since he can't live an immoral one. what happens when he improves enough, that he is allowed the immoral one?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 12:25 AM
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surprisingly hopeful narrative. how confident are you in this claim: men want to completely dedicate themselves to someone/something they find worthy when there are men that generally find the Chad, hedonistic lifestyle to be the best lifestyle achievable?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 12:23 AM
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love doesn't mean he doesn't want sexual variety
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 12:18 AM
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free pussy is variety, bad attitude or not
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 12:16 AM
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it's only said in response to men saying they can bag 18yos in their 30s. so it's shrodingers truth for this one!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 12:13 AM
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The idea is now that he has some women attracted to him, he would like to try to live the Chad life
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 12:03 AM
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most men settle for monogamy because they can't live out the Chad lifestyle due to women being too picky (80/20) i will say men are more happy to settle than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 11:45 PM
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no one. modern heterosexual relationships are no longer worth the cost for either party.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 11:43 PM
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if men desire variety, a wife of 10 years keeping his balls drained is not variety. men aren't fun and exciting as they approach 40, but theyre much more attractive to younger people and thus options open up for men, whereas women get less options.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 11:42 PM
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I don't want Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 11:37 PM
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doesn't refute my 3 points; if the women stays thin and fit she's still not as sexy as an 18yo
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 11:36 PM
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according to RP, women who have so many partners have their pair-bonding ability broken. men just don't have availability in partnerships. a lot men claim this, so I'll believe men and it's not unreasonable. the evopsych makes sense. he has gone up in his career from being unfun in his younger years, hence he'd like to experience what Chad got to experience finally is the theory. a little more cash is nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 11:35 PM
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man had 10 years to up his career, unless youre saying his SMV wouldnt change enough? someone who works under him becoming sexually available to him and such is not unusual.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 11:32 PM
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up until he has kids, you can't be that sure he's totally a family man. and if he were able to up his SMV drastically, to the point women swarmed him, are you confident enough he won't dabble in his desires?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 11:27 PM
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I'm assuming he has become high SMV, courting should no longer be a time sink and having booty calls from one night out should be feasible. not talking specifically about a whole other relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 11:08 PM
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blackpillers like us should unite regardless of gender!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 10:47 PM
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ig I didn't see that flair
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 10:46 PM
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