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| 1 | To what extent is female poor body image the fault of women?Social media designers talk specifically about trying to hijack our base urges to get us obsessively returning to their apps. I linked you to a video of a guy on a campaign about it. I've told you clearly that i agree the impulse is natural. So i have no idea why you feel the urge to maintain that point. I've also never even hinted at thinking about wanting to restrict anybody's freedom to do anything. Since you seem to have no interest in understanding my position much less representing it fair… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/09/18 02:50 PM |
| 1 | To what extent is female poor body image the fault of women?That’s like saying that somebody who builds a tavern in some ancient city was trying to “hijack our base urges.” It's only the same if the people involved in designing the taverns talked about how they trying to hijack our bas urges. The way the people who designed social media talk about how that is what they were doing. What I was trying to point out here is that it’s much easier to persuade other people why eating junk food is bad for them, compared to why posting selfies online and getting “… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/18 08:53 PM |
| 1 | To what extent is female poor body image the fault of women?And it’s completely natural and I think that it’s part of being human to assess one’s supposed value through physical displays. That is why it's a supernormal stimulus. Supernormal stimuli hijack natural, evolved behaviors. So, agreed. I have already agreed that this is true. I think that it’s unrealistic to ask people to behave differently in this regard for the reasons that I’ve already described I guess I just have far more faith in the human capacity for self-mastery than you do. Because I t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/18 06:41 PM |
| 1 | To what extent is female poor body image the fault of women?Besides the fact that i never claimed nobody has ever met on instagram, i agree it is playing out on a macro scale what already happens. That is what I am talking about. I'm saying it's a supernormal stimulus. This is similar to the way junk food is a supernormal stimulus. I'm not saying sex is exactly like junk food. Please don't explain how sex differs from food. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/18 03:10 PM |
| 1 | To what extent is female poor body image the fault of women?You're not telling me anything I don't know. I'm saying things like instagram are supernormal stimuli. Supernormal stimuli can be dangerous. We are well advised to exercise restraint around supernirmal stimuli ir we could end up quite miserable. As i said to another poster, it's like junk food. Not that junk food is just exactly like sex, as somebody has tried to argue. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/18 03:03 PM |
| 2 | To what extent is female poor body image the fault of women?I found my mate from a massive online dating pool. He's a guy I have a ton of things in common with, we had an immediate rapport, he wrote to me initially about stuff he read in my profile that we had in common. He had already found me having searched based on his criteria and he saw from my criteria that he met mine. Online dating allows you to look for the qualities you've decided are most important to you, for your personal happiness. And the pool is people who are, like you, looking to find … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/18 12:07 AM |
| 1 | To what extent is female poor body image the fault of women?Thank you for speaking of my thoughts and not your perception of my emotional state. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/18 09:34 PM |
| 1 | To what extent is female poor body image the fault of women?Sorry, the problem is that this is the sort of distinction without a difference only a person trying to get a rise out of another person would make. It gets us nowhere. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/18 09:15 PM |
| 1 | To what extent is female poor body image the fault of women?Your insistence is evidence you are bothered by it. Not at all. My emotional state has no bearing on the validity of any of my arguments and bringing it up is distracting and confounding. It also makes you seem like a person who just wants to get a rise out of people. So, asking you to stop is a way to test if that's the case. It's also not a point that can be effectivly argued. It's like arguing about whether green is a pretty color. You can't prove either side. So, it's like asking you to stop… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/18 08:59 PM |
| 2 | To what extent is female poor body image the fault of women?You were just telling me that women need to curb their appetites I'm saying that, if you have access to technology like Instagram, trying to find the optimal mate out of that massive pool of men is not conducive to happiness. If you want to explore that idea, I will. If you want to tell me that I'm saying something different than that, I'll decline to converse. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/18 08:56 PM |
| 1 | To what extent is female poor body image the fault of women?You didn't ask me. You told me you would appreciate it if I stopped. "Thanked me" is the words you used. If you would have asked me it would have been different. Here is where you blameshifted for why you didn't respect my boundary. I made my desire clear and how you reacted to that reflects on you as a person far more than my writing style reflects on me. That's the reality we're living right now. Why would you want me to stop if it didn't bother you? I told you. already. You are still acting j… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/18 08:26 PM |
| 1 | To what extent is female poor body image the fault of women?I think they support my view because such a writing style is associated with the behaviors I accused you of. Again, I'm not saying your view has no support. I'm saying mine has way more. You didn't ask me. You told me you would appreciate it if I stopped. Now you're getting needlessly pedantic. If you didn't understand from what I said that I wanted you to stop, you have dire reading comprehension problems. If you did understand that I wanted you to stop and continued, your behavior supports my … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/18 07:57 PM |
| 1 | To what extent is female poor body image the fault of women?Right. Let's review. I'm doing a lot of repetition today. Your behaviors are more overtly in favor of my interpretation than my behaviors are of your interpretation. You have repeatedly done something I asked you not to do. Compared to this overt and obvious behavior on your part, your complaints about my "writing style" seem petty, vapid and hollow. Just so there's no further confusion, I am saying that my position about you is stronger than your position about me. My asking you to stop saying … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/18 07:43 PM |
| 1 | To what extent is female poor body image the fault of women?You are engaging in behaviors people engage in who are trying to be provocative. I can observe that without being provoked myself. If you called me a cunt, I still wouldn't be upset. I would still be able notice that you were trying to provoke a response. Do you not understand the difference? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/18 07:32 PM |
| 3 | To what extent is female poor body image the fault of women?So you are advocating that women should curb their desires and have sex with men who they dont want to have sex with? Nope. That's seems like a huge leap you've made there. Food and sex are not analogous comparisons in my mind, as one involves deep human emotions and bodily autonomy, while the other involves just bodily mechanics. Which is which? To me, both involve all three. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/18 07:26 PM |
| 1 | To what extent is female poor body image the fault of women?I have no idea what difference you're talking about. I believe that you are frustrated at your inability to get a rise out of me. I don't believe you think I'm annoyed. That's what is happening. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/18 07:24 PM |
| 1 | To what extent is female poor body image the fault of women?I already told you that I'm not. You shouldn't feel bothered (or annoyed lol) by people considering your claims invalid when you come across as trying to provoke a reaction. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/18 07:13 PM |
| 2 | To what extent is female poor body image the fault of women?You shouldn't feel bothered (or annoyed lol) How many times have I asked you not to do this and told you it is provocative? But you continue. Compared to this overt and obvious behavior on your part, complaints about "writing style" seem petty, vapid and hollow. Therefore, I'll go ahead and assume you don't actually think I'm annoyed. You're saying you do because you want me to be. And you're maybe a bit frustrated at your failure to achieve this strange goal. It's how you come across. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/18 07:07 PM |
| 1 | To what extent is female poor body image the fault of women?Is your issue with sentence fragments? Conversational writing styles? Do they bother you? I don't think that is an unreasonable conclusion. Be that as it may, I told you I wasn't being annoyed. Going forward, you should have considered that your conclusions were incorrect, even if they felt reasonable to you. I did find it odd. That was simple honesty. I'm sorry if that's hard for you. Fact is, I wasn't annoyed, I was finding it odd how much you were struggling to get my point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/18 06:40 PM |
| 1 | To what extent is female poor body image the fault of women?Probably because of your word choice Lol, if you say so, okay. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/18 06:20 PM |
| 1 | To what extent is female poor body image the fault of women?I'm glad you are not annoyed, but you are certainly coming across as annoyed. I understand that I'm coming off this way to you. As I have explained, I wonder about why this is. Because you sound annoyed and not relaxed. It's still not okay to do something another person has asked you not to do. Especially if it's a person whose relaxation is of interest to you. In that scenario, you should refrain from doing things they've asked you not to do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/18 06:13 PM |
| 8 | To what extent is female poor body image the fault of women?Women finding the optimal mate (in their minds) to reproduce with is a fundamental part of human biology. Finding and eating the most calorie dense food available is also a fundamental part of human biology. But, because of our current society and technology, you are going to be utterly miserable if you don't consciously curb that behavior. We no longer live in the environment that we evolved in. Our best chance for happiness is to adapt to our current situation. Not be driven by atavastic and s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/18 06:04 PM |
| 2 | To what extent is female poor body image the fault of women?You should relax. No, you should doubt your ability to read moods. You sound annoyed. I have calmly and patiently explained myself as much as has been needed to get you to understand my point. Which you now do. How this reads as "annoyed" to you is beyond me. If anything, I probably should be annoyed. But I meditate every day without fail so I'm not that flappable. Is it possible you are upset or annoyed and that's why you're seeing it in my posts? Or do you maybe want me to be annoyed? Is that … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/18 05:54 PM |
| 1 | To what extent is female poor body image the fault of women?Not quite? That sentence was pretty hard to understand. It repeats words and was poorly worded. I still don't know what you exactly meant by it. As I said, I explained myself in other ways so, as I said, you had ample opportunity to get my point. So I was not quite "acting like this sentence from you is easy to read". If that sentence had been my only attempt to express my point, you would have been right. But it wasn't my only attempt. So that was not quite what I was doing. The fact that I am … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/18 05:22 PM |
| 4 | To what extent is female poor body image the fault of women?Relax I'll thank you to refrain from projecting emotions onto me that I'm not feeling or displaying. Firstly, you're acting like this sentence from you is easy to read: Not quite. I also told you that you were drawing the wrong parallel and I said, "Pretending to have a malignant personality disorder is not conducive to mental health, regardless of how many times it might help you wet your dick." So you had ample opportunity to get my point. only works if you believe that TRP is bad for men. Whi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/18 05:00 PM |
| 3 | To what extent is female poor body image the fault of women?I did explain, you aren't reading what I wrote. something that is ultimately harmful for other people Not harmful for other people. Harmful for you. "Pretending to have a malignant personality disorder is not conducive to mental health." didn't clarify for you? Let me be even clearer. TRP is bad for terpers. TRP is bad for the men on TRP. Women who post on instagram get the attention they want. They get loads of praise and flattery and validation. But they end up worse off. So getting what they … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/18 04:33 PM |
| -1 | To what extent is female poor body image the fault of women?Well when ever societal ill of women is blamed on men as a group, what do you think is going to happen? Tu quoque fallacy. It's always idiotic, no matter who does it. Other people doing pointless things doesn't make it okay for you to do pointless things. I can hold the belief of wanting a harem AND acknowledge that becoming my sex slave would ultimately be harmful for her mental health and professional growth. Whoosh. You're missing how this applies. I didn't claim these women should stop posti… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/18 04:19 PM |
| 8 | To what extent is female poor body image the fault of women?I do not understand clinging to this "us vs. them" mentality. Toxic masculinity is promoted by both men and women and is destructive to men. That's the idea behind toxic masculinity. The issue is with the ideas we are raised to take as wrote, all of us, we need to question them. Both men and women will punish men socially for crying in most circumstances. And that is toxic masculinity. Men and women both comprise society. The way you people talk, it's like you think we live in different countrie… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/18 03:55 PM |
| 1 | Why the slut vs. stud double standard makes sense.Don't have a problem with what? Being utterly illogical and emotion/instinct driven? A great many men do have a problem with that and end up deciding not to hold a woman's sexual history against her. A large number of us of both genders are using our prefrontal cortex to override idiotic, instinct driven, emotional decision making. You are welcome to opt out of doing that and call it reality or biology or whatever helps you maintain your self respect but you do not speak for all men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/18 09:42 AM |
| 9 | Why the slut vs. stud double standard makes sense.I had to work much harder in yoga to pull off a good crow than a man does. It's a pretty huge acheivement for me. Not so for a man. Men get there very quickly. That's why I refuse to ever marry a man who does crow pose in yoga. I'll date one, but i would never marry one. In case it's not obvious, this is rhetoric. Meant to demonstrate the bad logic in your explanation. Its not a joke or a mockery. It's an argument. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/09/18 11:12 PM |
| 4 | Question for Blue Pillers - Why do you care?Exactly my point... what so different between "anti vaxxers or flat Earth advocates" and RPers that it provokes such response in people...? /r/insanepeoplefacebook is where you go to make fun of anti-vaxxers and flat earthers. It's what it's there for. It has 600k subscribers. /r/thebluepill has 50k. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/09/18 09:38 PM |
| 1 | Women hate sexFemale bonobos are not getting raped. Try to keep up with the topic. We were discussing your preposterous and false claim that all animal sex is rape. Remember? Women want to procreate but we don't want to have sex? Do you even know what you're saying at this point or are you just stringing words together and hoping for the best? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/09/18 11:52 PM |
| 3 | Women hate sexA) If you would stop clinging to your ignorance like it's some trump card and look up "escapism" you'd see it's a distraction. If you can't understand how getting fucked by 2 9" dicks is distracting, go try it and see if it is. Ill wait. B) IV heroin use is described as self medicating and it's far more damaging than sex adduction. C) As people keep telling you, BONOBOS. For one. There are many others. You are woefully misinformed about everything it, seems. But let's look at it this way. Humans… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/09/18 10:37 PM |
| 6 | Women hate sexMost nymphomaniacs are girls who are somehow broken and they use sex as a tool of self-damaging. Most sex addicts are not girls. It's something that happens with men as well. That's the first thing you're wrong about. The second thing you got wrong is that it's used as self-harm. It isn't. It's used as escapism. Because it's pleasurable, it releases endorphins. It's self-medicating. Self-medicating ends up doing more damage than helping but that isn't why it's done. Anyway, using my common sense… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/09/18 06:35 PM |
| 2 | Q4BP: Where do you think young men struggling with relationships/women should turn to?Thank you for proving my point. When I tell you the real, useful advice these men need to hear, you say, "Ad hominem after ad hominem. Really pathetic." People get angry about the truth. People want lies. "Tell me it's not my fault. Tell me it's because women are neener neeener neeener." Talks about pathetic. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/18 10:44 PM |
| 3 | [CMV] It doesn't make sense to shame men for being hurt by womenAnd i find that to be the weakest, laziest, most cowardly solution. You're not telling me anything i don't know. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/18 02:35 PM |
| 4 | [CMV] It doesn't make sense to shame men for being hurt by womenI didn't say they hate men. I say they treat men as dangerous. TRPers marry women while thinking of them as dangerous, incapable of love, lacking honor, dishonest, all sorts of vile things. edit: it's interesting that this translated as hate to you, as much as TRPers object when we say you all seem to hate women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/18 07:21 PM |
| 3 | [CMV] It doesn't make sense to shame men for being hurt by womenThese women are not single by any stretch of the imagination. Why would you assume they were? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/18 07:08 PM |
| 2 | Q4BP: Where do you think young men struggling with relationships/women should turn to?So I ask the bluepillers here, where do you think men should go when they are struggling with women? This is like asking people where they should go if they are struggling with their career or having trouble making/keeping friends. I need waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more information than that if I'm going to be able to point you in any direction worth taking. Why hasn't a large BP dating movement come about like PUA or TRP? Why isn't there a large movement about how to make and keep fr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/18 06:38 PM |
| 13 | [CMV] It doesn't make sense to shame men for being hurt by womenLet me see if I can get you to understand by switching the genders here. I know some women who have been very hurt by the men in their lives. They react to this by treating all men as dangerous. They do their level best to manipulate and play power games with the men in their lives in order to get what they want from men without getting hurt in the process. I find this behavior foolish shameful. This is the weakest, laziest, and most cowardly solution. People who choose solutions like that are i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/18 06:12 PM |
| 2 | Female blogger unknowingly confirms TRP principles to a tee.As a person who generally has as many male friends as female freinds, nothing about this seems particularly female. As we started approaching 30, all of my friends who were still single, male and female: started getting really fucking tired of the club scene and its inherent bullshit not to mention the growing certainty that anybody they'd want to spend time with isn't going to want to go to clubs, either so the person they're looking for won't be found there didn't particularly like their jobs … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/18 04:28 PM |
| 0 | The most charitable interpretation of TRP philosophy is this: "Most people everywhere suck, so I'm taking the nihilistic route and joining in the suckage, but extracting tertiary benefits out of it."I don't have to ask. The question is rhetorical. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/18 06:24 PM |
| 0 | The most charitable interpretation of TRP philosophy is this: "Most people everywhere suck, so I'm taking the nihilistic route and joining in the suckage, but extracting tertiary benefits out of it."Again, what does that have to do with lifting and social skills? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/18 06:20 PM |
| 1 | Q4BP: Where do you think young men struggling with relationships/women should turn to?Lol. She's out there. Don't give up. I'm leaving it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/18 02:39 PM |
| 10 | Q4BP: Where do you think young men struggling with relationships/women should turn to?I think anybody with romantic problems who only finds the ideas in TRP useful and cant find help elsewhere sucks. The guts with romantic problems who dont suck do find help elsewhere. That is my contention. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/18 08:24 PM |
| 14 | Q4BP: Where do you think young men struggling with relationships/women should turn to?Because the actual truth is much, much harder to hear than the fake hard to hear but not actually hard to hear "truth" that trp offers. Like, women dont lack honor, you do and its why you cant attract hoborable women. Like is attracted to like. The women in your life suck because you do. Suck less and you'll be happier. Or go to trp and learn how to deal with the shitty women you attract. None of us are dumb enough to waste our time trying to get deluded people to actually come to tems with thei… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/18 07:33 PM |
| 1 | The most charitable interpretation of TRP philosophy is this: "Most people everywhere suck, so I'm taking the nihilistic route and joining in the suckage, but extracting tertiary benefits out of it."No, it's disproportionate how angry TRPers are. None of my subreddits have as many angry posters as TRP. The only one that gets close is /r/Screenwriting and that is because screenwriting is very difficult and, even if you work hard and are good at it, it's fucking brutal. It's because we're putting our hearts and souls and sweat and tears into something most of us are failing at. It does not make sense that you would see so much anger in a sub about lifting and social skills. So what is that an… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/18 05:52 PM |
| 1 | The most charitable interpretation of TRP philosophy is this: "Most people everywhere suck, so I'm taking the nihilistic route and joining in the suckage, but extracting tertiary benefits out of it."Lied to about what? That “if you wanna bang girls, then lift and learn social skills, only you can help you” is untrue? Because the only message I usually see anywhere about lifting and learning social skills is that it's a good idea. Or, is describing TRP as “if you wanna bang girls, then lift and learn social skills, only you can help you” so tragically incomplete as to be deliberately misleading, like a lie. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/18 05:43 PM |
| 0 | The most charitable interpretation of TRP philosophy is this: "Most people everywhere suck, so I'm taking the nihilistic route and joining in the suckage, but extracting tertiary benefits out of it."What does any of that have to do with “if you wanna bang girls, then lift and learn social skills, only you can help you”? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/18 05:38 PM |
| 1 | The most charitable interpretation of TRP philosophy is this: "Most people everywhere suck, so I'm taking the nihilistic route and joining in the suckage, but extracting tertiary benefits out of it."LIed to about what, though? Lifting and social skills? Or is there way more to TRP than that? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/18 01:44 AM |
| 1 | The most charitable interpretation of TRP philosophy is this: "Most people everywhere suck, so I'm taking the nihilistic route and joining in the suckage, but extracting tertiary benefits out of it."lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/18 11:19 PM |
| 1 | The most charitable interpretation of TRP philosophy is this: "Most people everywhere suck, so I'm taking the nihilistic route and joining in the suckage, but extracting tertiary benefits out of it."But I thought it was BPers who claimed that TRP is just repackaged standard dating advice with an edgy tone Maybe. I don't know. I'm not BP. I don't even know what that means. I'm just taking issue with whitetrashcarl's characterization of RP. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/18 11:15 PM |
| 1 | The most charitable interpretation of TRP philosophy is this: "Most people everywhere suck, so I'm taking the nihilistic route and joining in the suckage, but extracting tertiary benefits out of it."No, no, no. I mean that TRP has ideas at its heart that are fundamental to TRP but also have fuckall to do with lifting or social skills. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/18 10:54 PM |
| 1 | The most charitable interpretation of TRP philosophy is this: "Most people everywhere suck, so I'm taking the nihilistic route and joining in the suckage, but extracting tertiary benefits out of it."Okay, if the answer is "no" then you need ot understand that I could not care less if you actually meant "social dominance" when you said "social skills" and I have no idea why you even brought that up. Moving on. The 30,000 ft view should include the fundamentals. The information that is necessary. The idea that women want to be dominated by the men they are attracted to is so fundamental to TRP that lacking this belief disqualifies you from being TRP. That makes it 30k ft. That makes it big pi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/18 10:49 PM |
| 2 | The most charitable interpretation of TRP philosophy is this: "Most people everywhere suck, so I'm taking the nihilistic route and joining in the suckage, but extracting tertiary benefits out of it."Thank you. So you agree that there is far more to RP than lifting and social skills. There's also a bunch of shit about gender in it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/18 10:07 PM |
| 1 | The most charitable interpretation of TRP philosophy is this: "Most people everywhere suck, so I'm taking the nihilistic route and joining in the suckage, but extracting tertiary benefits out of it."I'm trying to get you to be very clear about what it is that you are saying. If you feel that doing so will make you look stupid, that's on you. I'm never afraid to answer "gotcha questions," myself. I know what I'm about, son. It's hard (but also kind of grotesque and fascinating) having a conversation with a person who isn't particularly interested in explaining himself, or even using the words he thinks best clarify his point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/18 10:05 PM |
| 1 | The most charitable interpretation of TRP philosophy is this: "Most people everywhere suck, so I'm taking the nihilistic route and joining in the suckage, but extracting tertiary benefits out of it."You didn't answer any of my questions. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/18 09:36 PM |
| 1 | The most charitable interpretation of TRP philosophy is this: "Most people everywhere suck, so I'm taking the nihilistic route and joining in the suckage, but extracting tertiary benefits out of it."Social skills is a polite way of saying social dominance. Hold on, this is getting juicy. You think the term "social skills" inherently implies "social dominance" which in turn, I guess, implies that "women want to be dominated by the men they are attracted to"? And you just assumed people would know that's what you meant? That's only "slightly inaccurate" to you? Saying "social skills" instead of "women want to be dominated by the men they are attracted to" is only slightly inaccurate? And the … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/18 08:05 PM |
| 1 | The most charitable interpretation of TRP philosophy is this: "Most people everywhere suck, so I'm taking the nihilistic route and joining in the suckage, but extracting tertiary benefits out of it."What I said agreed 100% with your definition of red pill but you claimed it was not red pill. So there are other beliefs required of you in order for you to be considered red pill. Because you have to hold these beliefs to be considered red pill, those beliefs are fundamental parts of red pill. They are foundational. It's baffling to me that you don't understand this. Have you noticed that you basically never see any PPD debates about the benefits of lifting and social skills? And yet there is n… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/18 07:00 PM |
| 1 | The most charitable interpretation of TRP philosophy is this: "Most people everywhere suck, so I'm taking the nihilistic route and joining in the suckage, but extracting tertiary benefits out of it."It’s certainly not the meat of the material tho. Disgreeing with it makes you orthogonal to trp. That sounds like the meat of it, to me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/18 06:24 PM |
| 1 | The most charitable interpretation of TRP philosophy is this: "Most people everywhere suck, so I'm taking the nihilistic route and joining in the suckage, but extracting tertiary benefits out of it."A somebody who recently complained about me putting words in your mouth, I'd thank you to refrain from putting quotes around your interpretation of my stance as though that's what I said. My stance is actually more nuanced than what you've characterized here. But this isn't the topic. So I'll decline to respond. My point is that your characterization of the red pill was so incomplete, it was useless at best and misleading at worst. I am aware that you don't agree with me on this point, it's why … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/18 05:54 PM |
| 2 | The most charitable interpretation of TRP philosophy is this: "Most people everywhere suck, so I'm taking the nihilistic route and joining in the suckage, but extracting tertiary benefits out of it."If what I said agreed 100% with your definition of red pill but is orthogonal to the red pill, then your definition is pretty terrible, don't you think? It's like defining balloons as "round, hollow things". It's just incomplete to the point of being useless. The principle of charity doesn't mean you leave out the key points because they're harder to defend. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/18 05:30 PM |
| 3 | The most charitable interpretation of TRP philosophy is this: "Most people everywhere suck, so I'm taking the nihilistic route and joining in the suckage, but extracting tertiary benefits out of it."No, I'm checking in. I'm telling you what I'm taking on board from what you're saying. This is for the purpose of clarification. It's so that you can clear up any misapprehension I have of your position. I'll do it again with greater care. My stance is that men and women are basically the same, we have incredibly similar desires in terms of what we want from a partner. Women will generally want men they are physically attracted to and who are pleasant and easy to be around, so you want to improv… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/18 05:03 PM |
| 3 | The most charitable interpretation of TRP philosophy is this: "Most people everywhere suck, so I'm taking the nihilistic route and joining in the suckage, but extracting tertiary benefits out of it."“Women are wonderful” is a trope, t doesn’t mean you actually think a particular woman is wonderful, it’s more about thinking women are different than men, better in a particular way I know this. I was using one person to demonstrate how the logic fails for me. As I said, it's the logic I take issue with. So, you're saying the anger comes from realizing that women are not superior. So, if my stance is that men and women are basically the same, we have incredibly similar desires in terms of what … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/18 04:52 PM |
| 1 | Nextable people and un-nextable peopleI don't just see insecurities in TRP men. I see a non-representative amount of severe emotional instability. I'll reply in time, this is interesting. :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/18 04:38 PM |
| 3 | The most charitable interpretation of TRP philosophy is this: "Most people everywhere suck, so I'm taking the nihilistic route and joining in the suckage, but extracting tertiary benefits out of it."How does being attracted to attractive people preclude being wonderful? I'm not saying that women are wonderful. People are all sorts of things. I just don't follow the logic of thinking somebody is wonderful until you learn they really only looking to date a person they are physically attracted to and who is enjoyable to be around. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/18 02:55 PM |
| 8 | The most charitable interpretation of TRP philosophy is this: "Most people everywhere suck, so I'm taking the nihilistic route and joining in the suckage, but extracting tertiary benefits out of it."Why are so many RPers so angry, then? I'm told it's because there is an anger stage to RP. It's very odd to me that learning you should lift weights and improve your social skills would make so many of you so angry over such a sustained period. Is basic self-improvement really so upsetting to these RPers? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/18 02:42 PM |
| 1 | Nextable people and un-nextable peopleNo. I think the payoff is thinking they have more control than they do, thinking they understand the world better than they do, thinking their problems are because of feminism or disney movies and not the result of any personality disorders they need to root out and resolve. Also, I bet this "game" they are constantly playing is a very welcome distraction from a terrifying and ugly truth that they can't face. That's probably where TRP and flat earthers do overlap. If every interaction with a wom… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/18 09:35 PM |
| 4 | Q4MEN: Did you settle for "good enough" or would you keep searching for the love of your life?Well, it's possible that OP has the emotional maturity to respect other people's personal boundaries, would be able to take a lack of answers in stride, accept it if men don't feel comfortable answering, and not spend days whinging and linking to this thread. But let's see. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/18 08:52 PM |
| 2 | Q4Men: How should the women of PPD talk about/describe their male SO’s/husbands?Thanks! I'll tell you something else for free. When somebody assumes you would only withhold sensitive information if you were trying to be deceptive, that tells you a metric butt ton about what their intentions usually are when they withhold information, doesn't it? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/18 03:44 PM |
| 1 | Nextable people and un-nextable peopleI'm actually curious - if you think red v. blue is too simplistic, what made you interested in reading this sub? (I mean it's great that you are here, we need people who question things. But, why are you interested in it? How did you start reading PPD? I'm fantastically interested in self-delusion. I used to also post on /r/fatlogic for that reason, but it got too hateful for me. I posted on /r/thebluepill but there is also a lot of anger there which I find upsetting. There is anger here but I f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/18 03:40 PM |
| 9 | Q4Men: How should the women of PPD talk about/describe their male SO’s/husbands?You're failing to show where I'm lying to make myself look morally unconcerned. That wasn't the accusation turned back on you. This was: I think women like saying things that paint them in a good light which in this case is the Facebook profile story all highlights no lowlights The accusation was that you enjoy saying things that paint you in a good light with your audience, which is TRPers, who look well upon those unconcerned with morals. This has been shown. Unless you want to change your sta… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/18 11:46 PM |
| 2 | Nextable people and un-nextable peopleMy pleasure. I honestly think the issue is that the thing you're wrestling with is way too nuanced to even be presented as red v. blue. I'm really grappling with these issues as I try to, basically, change my pill color to be bluer. We don't actually have pill colors, is the thing. You think and feel the things you think and feel. If you think you are trying to change your pill color to be bluer, then you already aren't okay with the red pill so you aren't red pill. So what are you really trying… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/18 09:48 PM |
| 8 | Equivalent of DeadBeadrooming for Women. What would you say about the following situation?I just don't think you can really teach people a single response to these issues. You have to be able to have a grown up conversation. Here's how I would reply to each of these, the expectation being he would respond to that and then a conversation would gain momentum. But I would also want to know if he's never given kind words or if this is a recent development. “Why should I express kindness, when that’s not how I feel in the moment?” So, you are implying you never feel kindness towards me. I… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/18 07:57 PM |
| 5 | Nextable people and un-nextable peopleA BP person has the power to next his partner but he doesn't make use of it the way he could. Not everybody is going to respond how you want to the threat of abandonment. If somebody threatened to abandon me over lack of sex, I'd tell him not to let the door hit his ass. This is because I have a lot of self-worth and dignity and self-respect. I want my partner to have similar levels of self-worth and self-respect and dignity. Dreadgame would guarantee my partner didn't have those things. That's … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/18 07:02 PM |
| 17 | Q4Men: How should the women of PPD talk about/describe their male SO’s/husbands?Sharing your marital problems with people who don't have your or your marriage's best interest at heart is spectacularly retarded thing to do. I don't even share that stuff with my friends if they don't seem to have very stable romantic relationships. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/18 06:39 PM |
| 9 | Q4Men: How should the women of PPD talk about/describe their male SO’s/husbands?That isn't even remotely dishonest. It's healthy, boundaried communication. Honesty doesn't mean you have to tell everybody everything. It means that the information you do choose to share is accurate to the best of your knowledge. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/18 06:34 PM |
| 1 | Do you agree that a relationship were the man has multiple women and the woman one man is the best relationship for a man?Do you agree that a relationship were the man has multiple women and the woman one man is the best relationship for a man? That depends on a good many factors. Not the least being, what does the guy in question want? Do you agree that with RP advice the average man can become high value enough to get this kind of relationship? Yes. Why or Why not? Given enough power/leverage/negotiation skills, a person can probably acquire whatever arrangement they seek. It's true also of women. Women could get… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/18 09:15 PM |
| 1 | Is it Wrong to Seek Validation?Everybody does this all the time, non-stop. It's the reason we have internet bubbles. The entire world is constantly seeking and getting validation about stuff. Men get as much validation as women, it's just about different things. Do you mean specifically seeking validation about your physical appearance? Feminists complain about how much women get validated for our looks because it sends the message that this is the only thing we are valued for. So, maybe these TRP'ers need to be alerted that … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/18 08:43 PM |
| 1 | Q4BP: Differentiating between Sexism and Toxic MasculinityThere is no difference. The term "toxic masculinity" is, indeed, incredibly misleading. It's so misleading it almost seems designed to be misleading. It just doesn't mean what it sounds like it means. It's like "inflammable". You are basically guaranteed to misunderstand it if you don't look it up. Is that what you're saying? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/18 09:48 PM |
| 1 | Why do many people (mostly women) not seem to understand that a man doesn't want to raise another man's child.Feminist here. I don't understand the question. Mandatory? You mean every person who procreates is required to submit their DNA? You are legally required to know if you share DNA with the infant that came out of your wife? That's what you're proposing? Why? Forgive me for being ignorant of the law, but can't you just ask for a paternity test? If a guy asks for a paternity test on his own infant, can the woman block that? If so, we should change that. If not, what are you after, here? Because it … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/18 09:32 PM |
| 1 | Do you wish you were born as the opposite sex?Do you wish you were born as the opposite sex? No. Why or why not? Because wishing for things to be other than they are isn't something I squander my life doing. Why is being your gender so awesome or suckish? How I respond to the situation I am in matters far, far more than the situation I am in. So, that's what I understand the best. For instance, sexism exists. Call it a myth if you want, there are guys who assume you don't really understand what you're talking about when you're a woman. The … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/18 08:34 PM |
| 1 | Can someone explain to me what/ how one is “purple pill”?So, here's the deal. Nobody is wrong about everything all the time. So people will see truth in both BP and RP, but won't really think either is right. Since they see value in something from each camp, they think they are in the middle. I think TRP, fundamentally, ignoring the more obvious advice you find everywhere, is bonkers wrong. Like, trying to play baseball in a pool with a golf club and a shuttlecock level wrong. I'll watch you do that for hours, don't get me wrong, but I am not playing … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/18 07:33 PM |
| 2 | Q4W - How do you feel about "Tingles Uber Alles"?It says that all women are like that. As in, in the case of cheating, all women will experience the urge to do it at some point if a better option than their SO comes along. If that's what AWALT means, then it's easily one of the dumbest, most obvious, least useful axioms I've ever heard. If your dealings with me are going to be informed by my random, unfulfilled urges, trust me, cheating is the LEAST of your worries. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/18 06:56 PM |
| 2 | Q4RP: Why do you think bluepillers hate the redpill so much?Also we don't know it's what we really want because we're not at all self-aware and are driven purely by instinct. But also we do know exactly what we want and it's a closely guarded secret. Both of those things. Simultaneously. Somehow. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/18 05:36 PM |
| 3 | What's a life lesson you've acquired from reading this sub?So, I'm a very empathetic person. If you don't believe me, I'd be willing to link to my other account where one of my more recent posts was me reaching out to a male victim of sexual abuse, reassuring him that he can find peace. Real empathy is hard to find, I'm not going to pretend that isn't true. But it's also the case that empathy is exhausting. Showing somebody empathy makes you vulnerable and tires you out. You'll burn out being empathetic all the time. If I think there's a decent chance I… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/18 12:41 AM |
| 1 | What's a life lesson you've acquired from reading this sub?That is fantastic! Congratulations! It just makes a world of difference, doesn't it? As a weirdo myself, that is my favorite kind of story, the ones where weird people find a way to be exactly who they are. The video for "No Rain" by Blind Melon makes me cry. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/18 12:19 AM |
| 2 | Disney turned the lesson of The Little Mermaid upside down.She also still didn't turn into foam. Dissolving in something doesn't mean you turn into that thing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/18 09:21 PM |
| 13 | Disney turned the lesson of The Little Mermaid upside down.Ariel even has an orbiter in her friend Flounder. Sidekicks are standard in Disney films. Think about it. Thumper. Dory. Tinker Bell. Baloo. Olaf. Timon and Pumba, there's a twofer. It's part of the formula. Also, I am not aware of any disney film that didn't significantly alter the original, much darker fairy tale into something that is more commercial. I could be wrong but I imagine they do it to turn a profit. Unless you think this is a feminist propaganda machine that is just accidentally gr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/18 09:03 PM |
| 2 | There is No Such Thing as Free WillIf I made the choice to murder someone while in a stable state to make and understand decisions, I did that on my own accordance. The idea that OP and Sam Harris and Robert Sopolsky and many other neuroscientists are putting forth is that your conscious mind isn't making those choices. Those choices are being made by a part of your brain that you don't have conscious access to. You tell yourself why you do the things you do but those are stories you are making up so you can feel like you are "op… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/18 08:29 PM |
| 1 | Do women who go clubbing automatically deemed inappropriate or slutty?I agree with /u/Pope_Lucious . The atmosphere is one of hooking up. You get hit on way more at clubs than anywhere else because men assume you're open to it if you are there. That is just the assumption. You'll get way more offers, if slutting is your intention or not. Also, alcohol is generally involved which weakens your inhibitions. How are you planning to dress? Wear make up? Really think about your answer to that question. However strong your loyalty and resolve, it doesn't change the fact … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/18 07:31 PM |
| 1 | Do women who go clubbing automatically deemed inappropriate or slutty?I agree with /u/Pope_Lucious . The atmosphere is one of hooking up. You get hit on way more at clubs than anywhere else because men assume you're open to it if you are there. That is just the assumption. You'll get way more offers, if slutting is your intention or not. Also, alcohol is generally involved which weakens your inhibitions. How are you planning to dress? Wear make up? Really think about your answer to that question. However strong your loyalty and resolve, it doesn't change the fact … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/18 07:26 PM |
| 3 | Q4All : Why should men not prefer debt-free virgins without tattoos?I don't know that anybody "should" care what any stranger thinks about anything. However, if self-awareness is important to a guy, he would be well advised to read that comment and honestly ask himself if that analysis applies to him. A person who values self-awareness will already know that we have a hard time seeing our own behaviors and reasonings in an objective way. So such a person would value outside, disinterested insight into their behavior. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/18 07:08 PM |
| 1 | [Q4w] is my girlfriend slowly moving in?and the fact she keeps wanting me to get rid of my geek items because it doesn’t “show we are serious adults with a nice place” so is she trying to move in or what? This is the thing that makes me say yes. If you're not okay with her moving in, your response should be, "This isn't our place. This is my place. I'm happy with my choices." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/18 05:00 PM |
| 2 | There is no conceptual difference between a golddigger and a prostitute...If you are made happy by being a full-time parent but are not interested in being in a romantic relationship OR if you are made happy by having a fulfilling career and also being a parent but don't want a romantic relationship, yes, a "golddigger marriage" is what's going to get you those things in both situations. Those are two people with similar goals whose dissimilarity in goals fit together like puzzle pieces. Presumably, they got married because the marriage was going to benefit them in so… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/18 04:51 PM |
| 1 | There is no conceptual difference between a golddigger and a prostitute...Because happiness is a fairly strong emotion, and I wouldn't expect someone to feel with anything but love So, do you think single people aren't capable of being happy? You think people can't be made happy by, say, a fulfilling career? What about being a parent? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/18 04:41 PM |
| 1 | There is no conceptual difference between a golddigger and a prostitute...You think it might not possible to have a happy marriage without love? Why is that? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/18 04:25 PM |
| 2 | There is no conceptual difference between a golddigger and a prostitute...I don't disparage golddiggers. But it's not comparable to prostitution more than it's comparable to what most people would call a "normal" marriage. Ideally, a "normal" marriage is two people who parter up, they offer each other some life benefit, they are there for each other in various ways that improve each others lives. Sex and money tend to be things people bring to each others lives in these marriages. That's what a golddigger relationship is, it's just that love isn't one of the things th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/18 04:10 PM |
| 6 | Q4bothpills: Why do you believe there are multiple support communities for women, but few for men (and the ones that exist for men are often attacked and mocked)?SRS community, TrollXChromosomes, GenderCritical, AgainstMensRights, etc I see SRS and twoxchromosomes criticized all over reddit all the time. SRS is actually very toxic so, despite being a feminist, I'm highly critical of that place, myself. I did a quick search and all of it is pretty damned critical. https://old.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/search?q=shitredditsays&include_over_18=on&sort=relevance&t=all I'm not familiar with the other two, but I still reject your your premise. Support commu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/18 03:42 PM |
| 21 | A message to older rich men who prefer young womenMy tastes have changed as I've aged. They've aged with me. I stll find 20 something guys visually attractive but i really only find guys around my own age to be hot, sexy. Because it needs to be a combination of physical and personality traits to get me going. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/18 05:47 PM |
| 2 | For those who are unhappy with their place in the SMP, what are you doing right NOW to improve your SMV?I was talking about the reason a person would improve themselves with no prospect of external reward. I don't see how this relates at all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/18 11:58 PM |
| 1 | Dickmatized by a blue pill man.I have toctell you this is more about the types of people you tend to interact with than it is about love itself. I have never once known a woman who couldn't leave a bad relationship because of how great the sex was. Ive known many people in what seem to be amazing, happy, stable, mutually supportive relationships. My bff and both have them and we've known each other since 9th grade. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/18 11:56 PM |
| 1 | Dickmatized by a blue pill man.I have also seen women (and a couple of men) subject themselves to hell in order to remain with a person who treated them like shit. You said there was something that binds these particular couples together. It's the abuse itself. It's not stronger than love. This is not the only kind of stable, loyal relationship there is. Do you think these are the only stable relationships? Or the most stable relationships? The ones where one person is treated like shit? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/18 04:25 PM |
| 2 | Dickmatized by a blue pill man.I believe there is something in the second group that binds these people together that wasn't in the first group, but my question is what if that binding factor was joined with actions of love found in the first group. I think that would be a serious relationship that could last. The binding factor you're talking about is the abuse itself. It's always joined in actions of love. Abusers are also very loving at times. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/18 11:01 AM |
| 2 | For those who are unhappy with their place in the SMP, what are you doing right NOW to improve your SMV?Yes. He is also like that. That's not true. He's worse than me. No make up, not girly clothes. I also don't wear jewelery. So there's that one upside. I forbade him to buy me a diamond ring. I hate jewelery. I didn't even want a band. I wanted us to get tattoos so I wouldn't have to wear jewelery. He hates tattoos so we got rings. I got used to it, but it's the only jewelery I ever wear. I generally find all that shit ridiculous. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/18 09:46 PM |
| 2 | Q4MEN: What are your experiences dating women at various age differences?I don't see how seeing through bullshit is having a bad attitude. I don't want to live a life of comfortable delusion. I want to be truthful. I want people to point it out when I'm not being honest, especially if I'm not being honest with myself. I also want people who feel the same way as I do. I want people who will listen when I point out that they don't seem to be being honest. People like that are very hard to find. I have found one. If anything, I think we're more laid back and happier tha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/18 09:00 PM |
| 1 | Q4MEN: What are your experiences dating women at various age differences?Bullshit is everywhere, though. Let's not be naive. There's no way you've survived this long without some appreciation for just how many and how much people bullshit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/18 08:32 PM |
| 6 | For those who are unhappy with their place in the SMP, what are you doing right NOW to improve your SMV?My comment was in response to a comment you made about why a person improves if not for external rewards. So comment I was responding to does apply to me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/18 08:27 PM |
| 8 | For those who are unhappy with their place in the SMP, what are you doing right NOW to improve your SMV?Because your life is better. It feels much better to be in good physical condition than it feels to be fat and out of shape. Challenging yourself mentally makes your mind work better, you think more clearly, you sleep better at night. My husband dngaf that I meditate every day. He could not care less. Nobody does but me. I tell people I meditate every day, their eyes glaze over. They don't see the benefits. I do. It's why I do it. I basically dress like a homeless person unless there's a financi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/18 08:18 PM |
| 1 | Q4women: What is the weakest thing a man could do?Yes, in that a complaint isn't a statement of expectations, it's a statement of dissatisfaction. One would be saying, "I'm not satisfied with our current sex life," the other would be, "I expect our sex life to be this particular way." There is that difference. But you're adding extra descriptors to the latter one that you could easily apply to the former. Implying that a complaint somehow isn't calm or clear. The fact that you added them should indicate there is nothing inherently calm or clear… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/18 03:32 PM |
| 3 | Q4women: What is the weakest thing a man could do?Hold on. "Complaining" just means expressing dissatisfaction. It doesnt necessarily mean you are doing it in a childish or offputting way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/18 01:40 AM |
| 5 | Q4women: What is the weakest thing a man could do?I would. I ask. I check in about it. I don't know why this is the second top comment. Why wouldn't you want to know if your partner is dissatisfied or frustrated with the relationship? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/18 08:08 PM |
| 1 | What is your mission?I'm a woman and my mission is very similar to yours. I wouldn't say "dominate" but I think I know what you mean there. Here's the thing, though. I can't answer the final question because I have come to realize that, if I wish to truly know myself, I can't worry about bullshit like "frame" or whatever the female equivalent of that might be. You can't know who you really are if you don't allow yourself to be exactly who you are and damn the consequences. I'm sure most people think I'm pretty weird… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/18 02:54 PM |
| 2 | Discussion: Men and Women and FriendsIsn't that a lover? It's not a girlfriend and it's not a boyfriend, right? Do we normally stick our penises in friends? It read to me like a person you want to have sex with, but don't have sex with. That's not a lover. That's not a friendship anymore; that's someone hoping for a romantic relationship. How? Why can't you just not to act on that desire? I've had male friends when I was single whose friendship I valued more than the possibility of a romantic relationship. I never let on how I actu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/18 02:34 PM |
| 4 | Q4A - Sex is no longer is part of the human procreation cycle or ever practised or thought about, does the opposite sex/gender hold any value to you anymore to settle down with?Physical touch, cuddling, just being very near to somebody on a regular basis is very important to me. I'd want that no matter what. My husband and I do that far, far more than we have sex. Also, it's great to have somebody who has your back no matter what. You are their number two, after themselves. That's big. But, if there's no sex, would that person necessarily have to be a dude? I'm not sure. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/18 12:30 AM |
| 3 | Nice Girls: And Example of Toxic Femininity?that it's "toxic masculinity" if the guy doesn't get over it. This person is talking about the original use of the term. It's "toxic masculinity" that the guy is expected to just get over it. I think a lot of people don't realize that "toxic masculinity" is meant to describe expectations of men that are toxic to men as well as women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/18 03:16 PM |
| 4 | Men are valuable for their utilities, women are valuable as suchThe difference is that fathers have to do whereas mothers only have to work and effort but not in a doing kind of way. It's a being there type of work and effort. Not a doing kind of work and effort. EDIT: It's a motherly, non-doing work and effort. I think that makes it more clear. EDIT 2: This will clarify. It's a motherly, non-doing work and effort of being. EDIT 3: Hold on. It's a motherly, non-doing work and effort of just being. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/18 12:53 AM |
| 3 | Q4Women: How do you respond to the logic that the vast majority of woman can't really know whether the TRP pillars of SMV (status/wealth/looks/game) turn them on because they've never been approached by men who are high-SMV in these dimensions?You think I don't know if I want to fuck a guy unless he offers first? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/18 12:19 AM |
| 1 | Q4Women: How do you feel about prostitution morally?I don't. You might as well ask me how I feel about being a masseuse morally. The question doesn't even make sense to me. My best friend calls me a whore all the time. He also calls his dog a whore. I call myself a whore sometimes to indicate that I really like something. As in, "I'm a whore for open source." Some feminists would say it's because the patriarchy doesn't like women to have domain over their own bodies. Ultimately, who knows why people believe the idiotic things people tend to belie… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/18 11:54 PM |
| 2 | Reverse-shit testSelf-awareness is one of my strongest traits. You need self-awareness in order to properly assess what your strongest traits are. It's very easy to believe you have a lot of self-awareness when you have none. I am not interested in playing the game of comparative value and assessing value based on level of interest. If you weren't interested in those games, you wouldn't play them at all. That's not your bag. You wait until you think the other person is playing those games before launching into t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/18 05:16 PM |
| 1 | Reverse-shit testAnd how do you decide when a woman backs off because you're demonstrating vulnerability or if she's backing off because she just doesn't like you? Maybe she loses interest because you suddenly strike her as a bit neurotic or lacking in empathy or lacking in basic humility or self-awareness. There are all sorts of reasons a woman might lose interest in you after spending some time with you. What you've done here is design a rationalization that allows you to tell yourself that a woman losing inte… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/18 04:28 PM |
| 1 | Concepts of TheRedPill are true for both gendersI love you | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/18 02:59 PM |
| 1 | Concepts of TheRedPill are true for both gendersNo u | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/18 02:20 PM |
| 3 | Concepts of TheRedPill are true for both gendersWell put. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/18 11:46 PM |
| 3 | Q4RP: is it possible to have a feminist mindset but a RP relationship?Of course. I used to comment on articles in the Seattle paper The Stranger which leans very left. There are women who comment there with RP type relationships and nobody even argues with them about it. Its just how they want to live. Why woukd we care. It's if you start with all this, "This is how it's supposed to be for everybody and i know this for a fact because ive read a bunch of just-so-stories on blogs," that people on the left are going to start debating you all the time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/18 04:22 PM |
| 17 | Q4ALL: In your experience of awful marriages (and vicious divorces) that you know, how often did things start off genuinely awesome vs. how often were there red-flags from the start that indicated disaster to come?Sure. They talk about lying to their partner as though it's assumed that it's an integral part of every relationship. They complain about each other to you at a level not quite commensurate with your intimacy level with them. They make fun of each other in social settings, in front of other people. Even if it's got a veneer of "good natured" on it. The time they spend together, one-on-one or socializing as a couple with others usually involves alcohol. If they're just hanging out sober it's doin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/18 08:31 PM |
| 1 | Q4Women: How much does fame/status turn you on? The manosphere is full of claims it's a huge turn-on, and that if a man whispers in your ear that he's a "famous actor" then the tingles start flowing.How would tingles flow? If somebody whispered in my ear that some guy was a famous actor, I'd think that person was full of shit because I'm not irretrievably stupid. But we'll set those two things aside and talk about the actual thing that happens. I'm desperately attracted to some very famous men. It's not because they are famous. It's because of who they are and what they look like. I know who they are and what they look like, because they are famous. Otherwise I probably wouldn't know anythi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/18 07:32 PM |
| 33 | Q4ALL: In your experience of awful marriages (and vicious divorces) that you know, how often did things start off genuinely awesome vs. how often were there red-flags from the start that indicated disaster to come?Red flags all. In fact, in all my experiences of what I would consider awful marriages/viciuos divorces, there were red flags before the couple even met if I knew them then. In my experience, awful marriages don't just happen to people. They are created by the people in question for reasons that exist before and independent of the relationship itself. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/18 07:15 PM |
| 1 | Q4All: How do you feel about men being vulnerable?I insist on it. I would feel very uncomfortable if my husband never cried. After our dog died, we cried in each others arms all the time. One of us would start and it set the other off then the two of us were bawling. Hysterics? Like how? I dont think either of us ever do that. Id be super concerned if he did. I grow as a person by being vulnerable. Our relationship gets stronger as we are vulnerable with each other. Some people use vulnerability as a weapon and manipulation tactic. So it can be… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/18 01:46 AM |
| 4 | Q4All: What wouldn't you tolerate from your partner's past?Jail implies you did something illegal which OP excluded from the question. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/18 12:05 AM |
| 1 | When Critics Say TRP is About Abusing WomenSounds to me like your critique is cut from a mold predisposed to labeling any type of self-respecting dominant behavior to be damaging. I labeled one behavior damaging. You described it as a predisposition to labeling all types of a behavior damaging. That's a pattern. You are very dishonest. But, you're back! Fresh off your Women's March, Women's Month, and A Day Without Women and full of new definitions for words. #I need Feminism so I can know what new meanings words have. You're pathetic. I… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/17 09:35 PM |
| 1 | When Critics Say TRP is About Abusing WomenSo, you agree that there is a double standard. No, I called your history abuse. I think you were abused, as I said. I do declare. Someone has got the vapors. I'll decline this bait as well. Thanks, though. I can't change your reaction, I can only mansplain and elaborate when it looks like you've overreacted, or misappropriate my words to intent you wished for, rather than what was there. This is why you are wrong about everything. You're reading into my intentions as much as I am with you. You c… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/17 07:06 PM |
| 1 | When Critics Say TRP is About Abusing WomenI thought you said you were done? Just imagine with me for a minute that it was a woman writing the article, and that she had brought her male date. People would be shocked and applaud her composure. They would be surprised that her man didn't have the balls to speak up for himself. And no one would believe it, because of the role reversal. Yes, reversed I would think the woman was being emotionally abusive to the man. Your powers of observation are as weak as your rhetoric. Every word you type … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/17 07:01 PM |
| 1 | When Critics Say TRP is About Abusing WomenBullshit backpeddle. It was an insult to all women that we are incapable of calculation. It was intended to make me feel defensive. It's weak of you to try to weasel out of it now. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/17 06:48 PM |
| 1 | When Critics Say TRP is About Abusing WomenYou're right, this conversation is garbage now. Oh, it's been garbage for a while. You backed yourself into a corner and then felt cornered. You must be projecting. I guess that's how you feel. I'd like you to link me to an online discussion where you actually made productive points and addressed honest critiques before I consider anything you said wasn't just seriously misguided special-interest motte&bailey BS. Here. I think if you could distill your thoughts more concisely, we could start ove… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/17 06:47 PM |
| 2 | When Critics Say TRP is About Abusing WomenWhat the fuck would you know, you're just a woman anyway - your solipsistic hypergamy are walls towering over your mind". By the by, you've already sort of done this here: Except, that's female nature, so we can't call that behavior "abuse". That's reserved for calculated and responsible decision makers. I didn't take your petty, manipulative bait but I did notice it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/17 06:40 PM |
| 1 | When Critics Say TRP is About Abusing WomenIt looks like your "critique" was nothing more than snark in rejection of my critique of your critique. Your original problem was that it is 100% abuse. And I said that your criteria for abuse appeared to be designed specifically to target any masculine behavior whatsoever. A charge which you have yet to dismiss with any effort, if you're going to labor as hard at avoiding that point as you could answering it, we might get somewhere. I've never lost a "no u" fight in my life, but they're not exa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/17 06:34 PM |
| 1 | When Critics Say TRP is About Abusing WomenThis is less a denial of criticism and more of an ad hominem, so try again. The previous sentence that you declined to include was the argument against your criticism. Please review. Sure. Granted. Why would anyone believe a TRP field report might ever be successful? Most intelligent people would take a larglely self-aggrandizing story posted on the internet with a grain of salt, no matter where it was posted. It sounds to me like it told us TRP can be used successfully and wisely. If you believ… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/17 05:56 PM |
| 1 | When Critics Say TRP is About Abusing WomenI think it would be a cringe piece if all of his decisions were inverted. Yes, at the other end of the spectrum is a victim. You would want to be somewhere in the middle, ideally. Sounds to me like your critique is cut from a mold predisposed to labeling any type of self-respecting dominant behavior to be damaging You are elaborating a pattern from a single instance. Seems to me you are assigning me whatever motivations you need to in order to reassure yourself you are right. when the only tears… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/17 04:37 PM |
| 1 | When Critics Say TRP is About Abusing WomenYes, it's abusive. The narrator of that story sounds like a malignant narcissist to me. Share this story with the victims of emotional, narcissistic abuse and see what they have to tell you about how familiar his behavior and reasoning is to them. If you have any interest in understanding how this behavior actually affects people who are subject to it, that would be a good way of learning in an objective way if this is abuse. The way he acts like her protector and rescuer, then tells her to leav… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/17 04:10 PM |
| 6 | The Body Positivity Movement Is a Microcosm of What Feminism Is AboutI think you just like overacting. Subtlety may be lost on you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/17 04:37 AM |
| 5 | The Body Positivity Movement Is a Microcosm of What Feminism Is AboutOscar Isaac, Domnhall Gleeson, Christian Bale, Tom Hardy are all easily more impressive than Al Pacino or Orson Welles ever were as actors. Phillip Seymour Hoffman blew them all out of the water. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/17 04:30 AM |
| 1 | Cognate to "men not wanting sluts" is "women not wanting bums."We have prefrontal cortices. It's an amazing tool, the prefrontal cortex. It allows you to look at your own behavior and analyze whether or not you are making good choices. It lets you conceive of likely outcomes of your choices. People who choose ignore this amazing tool and instead be motivated by, "Hur dur, muh lizard brain gots the fear!" are very, very hard to respect. I have all sorts of strong, primitive drives that I ignore as an evolved, intelligent human being. Those drives explain idi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/03/17 03:38 PM |
| 1 | Q4All: Are you religious? What religion are you?I don't think people actually fit in these categories. 43 Female Lifelong atheist I don't have any to find important. I hate religion. So...5? Again, the whole concept of pill orientation is preposterous to me. One horse sized duck. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/03/17 02:52 PM |
| 3 | Q4BP: Why is the goal of what you claim is a misogyny sub changing the lives of the users to be based around pleasing women?lol, I see. Thanks for clearing that up. I felt a bit like I was in the Twilight Zone. :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/16 06:42 PM |
| 8 | Q4BP: Why is the goal of what you claim is a misogyny sub changing the lives of the users to be based around pleasing women?There's a reason that "triggered" has become a phrase to mock the SJWs. Because they claim everything triggers them. There certainly is. And there is a reason they do that. I gave it. In my reply to you. That you ignored. Those SJWs aren't being triggered. They are trying to get a reaction because they are emotionally labile cluster b personality disordered. Well, yes. I see the pretty ones. This is your version of saying you're triggered. You're trying to get a reaction out of me. You think wom… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/16 06:30 PM |
| 6 | Q4BP: Why is the goal of what you claim is a misogyny sub changing the lives of the users to be based around pleasing women?Men get PTSD from seeing their friends die in front of their eyes, women get PTSD from someone mistreating them a little or slapping them. This is a ludicrous claim. I work with people who have ptsd. There are women with PTSD because they were gang raped and beaten within an inch of their life. There are men with PTSD who were treated to the same. There are men and women both with ptsd because they were terribly abused as children. Your reality tunnel is narrow. You can, with very few of them. Y… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/16 06:21 PM |
| 9 | Q4BP: Why is the goal of what you claim is a misogyny sub changing the lives of the users to be based around pleasing women?Men and women are both triggered if they have a form of PTSD. Otherwise, they are just being emotionally labile cluster B personality disordered. Both men and women. You can tell a man it's his own fault and not have him react like an emotional mess and not do anything productive about it. You can do that with women, too. There are tons of men you can't do that with. Your reality tunnel is narrow. Guess whose fault that is? It's yours. You attract and are attracted to certain kinds of women. And… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/16 06:04 PM |
| 10 | Q4BP: Why is the goal of what you claim is a misogyny sub changing the lives of the users to be based around pleasing women?I literally wrote, "TRP tells men that it is not their fault but it is their responsibility." PemBayliss replied, "TRP does tell men that it's their fault. You're incorrect about this." You're not disagreeing with me. You're disagreeing with PemBayliss. But you want to disagree with me because I disagree with RP so you repeat things I've said back to me. This is very strange. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/16 05:54 PM |
| 3 | Q4BP: Why is the goal of what you claim is a misogyny sub changing the lives of the users to be based around pleasing women?And how. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/16 05:25 PM |
| 8 | Q4BP: Why is the goal of what you claim is a misogyny sub changing the lives of the users to be based around pleasing women?TRP does tell men that it's their fault. You're incorrect about this. and Men are attracted to abusive, manipulative women because they weren't formed up correctly in the current "feminine good, masculine bad" environment. Wow, that's shitty, telling a person it's their fault that they were not formed up correctly. How is it their fault that they were raised a certain way? That makes no sense to me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/16 05:21 PM |
| 16 | Q4BP: Why is the goal of what you claim is a misogyny sub changing the lives of the users to be based around pleasing women?No, you missed the point. You just described a difference between why women choose bad partners and why men choose bad partners. You did it in an irrational, illogical, self-serving fashion. Also, you are not being honest. TRP tells men that it is not their fault but it is their responsibility. Women, it's their fault, it's who they are. Men, it's how they were raised. That is the textbook definition of fundamental attribution error. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/16 05:08 PM |
| 20 | Q4BP: Why is the goal of what you claim is a misogyny sub changing the lives of the users to be based around pleasing women?Thank you. You could not have written out a more compelling and absolute proof that TRP is the fundamental attribution error writ large. Women make bad choices because women are weak. Men make bad choices because society and women make them make bad choices. Men are not responsible for their mistakes. Women is da debbil, I tells ya. DA DEBBIL! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/16 04:41 PM |
| 2 | CMV TRP men are angry because physical looks, unlike before, plays a large role mate selection. They are even angrier because women have little sympathy for their plight.How that? Sorry, if i sound dump. But OKCupid as a site isn't advertising to a certain group of people, are they? They are a sexual marketplace. I don't mean they are marketing their product unfairly. I mean their product is a sexual marketplace which is unfair to men. It's a sexual market in which men tend to cast a very wide net to women in a large range of looks than they would probably normally approach irl. A woman on a dating site gets far, far more mail than a man. So the information she … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/16 02:46 AM |
| 1 | CMV TRP men are angry because physical looks, unlike before, plays a large role mate selection. They are even angrier because women have little sympathy for their plight.No, no, no, no, no. Your standards are not based on objectively assessing the looks of others. They are based on objectively assessing the looks of the others you can pull. A gem has no inherent value. It's value is assigned. You can't assess the value of a ruby by looking at the ruby. You have to look at what other people are willing to pay for that or similar rubies. And, any given ruby will have a different value depending on what market you sell it in. If you are selling a ruby in a market f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/16 03:22 PM |
| 2 | CMV: RPWs are as broken, if not more, than TRPers.This is PURPLE pill debate, right? I think both are "broken," or "unwell" would be a better word for it. But I think it's a crazy ideology. People don't get all wrapped up in a bonkers worldview unless they aren't stable, mentally. So, I would say both are cray but not for the reasons you give. You are wanting to have a debate that begs the Red Pill question. Isn't that better suited for a Red Pill forum? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/04/16 11:46 PM |
| 1 | Anyone actually had a good experience while losing their virginity?My first time was amazing and meaningful and I'm smiling now remembering it and him. Haven't thought about him in years. But, I am a bit of an outlier as my hymen didn't break until three years and many sexual intimacies later. Is that when I actually lost my virginity because that was not amazing. That was a weird night. I am a woman and I think RP is loony tunes but I also don't know how this relates to PPD, either. Did somebody argue that a meaningful first sexual encounter is evidence that R… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/04/16 11:40 PM |
| 2 | The issue with older women, visualizedBoth the women in that image are codependent. This is just the lifecycle of codependent people. Even men. Most TRPers have moved from "I would do ANYTHING just to please you," to "I demand you please me, right now." If I heard either of those from a guy, I would run for the hills. Those are both batshit ways to feel about another person. "I would do ANYTHING just to please you," is exactly the kind of crazy you don't want to stick your dick into. If all the women you seem to land are adequately … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/04/16 11:00 PM |
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