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Second option is better because at least nothing is totally off limits, but I'm not going to be happy in a relationship that feels like a chore.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 04:33 PM
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A partner would be nice, but really I just don’t want to get hit so hard in the face by feelings of inadequacy
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 10:31 PM
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I don’t need a strategy if I’m a woman, I’m guaranteed male attention as birthright. In all seriousness: I wouldn’t be on Tinder. The implication is obvious. I’d refuse to date 5+ years older or younger The guy would have to be in a similar salary threshold (I would not want a significant power disparity) Men without female friends would be heavily skepticized I would be the only one who is allowed to initiate sex on the first 3-4 dates
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 11:03 AM
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Yes me too
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 09:19 PM
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It’s a challenge. But the challenge is to simply not be the laziest possible man whose first message is “you like anal?”
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 09:09 PM
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Do better in terms of what?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 01:47 PM
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What kind of sociological study related to dating/sex would you conduct if you had unlimited resources?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 01:26 PM
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"incel loser" is not the language i'd use maybe more like "neurotic misogynist"
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 01:23 PM
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The post isn’t about appearance not being equal to character though. It’s about wanting a relationship vs casual sex. For a guy hovering around average to get a girl hovering around average to give them the time of day they need to be ostensibly looking for a relationship. You’re right: Chad, most of the time, isn’t a piece of shit. They actually make their intentions pretty clear, or at least they don’t give off the idea they are going to follow through with a relationship with the girl. Uglier…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 10:54 PM
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Is their goal to find emotional fulfillment? Or just to find a chad or a rich fella that likes them and might give it to them?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 03:52 AM
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I don't care about n count
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 04:48 PM
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Seen some women say "I won't date any man that watches porn" & basically implicates later in the sentiment that porn use = porn addict Like nothing about violence, domination, degridation... porn makes you sick by default
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 02:57 PM
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Vanilla P in V porn makes you a moral degenerate. I swear I'm not a social conservative.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 01:52 PM
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So if a woman is like "I won't consider a guy who uses any kind of porn" or something like that, what they mean is "porn makes me feel sexually insecure"? PPD guys are the epitome of sexually insecure so i guess i understand that
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 01:22 PM
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Q4W, Is all porn bad or is some mostly harmless? I really do not understand the vitriol against any type of porn use I see.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 01:12 PM
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It's PurplePillDebate, not PurplePillDialectics.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 03:51 AM
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A based comment from a RedPiller? I bet I'll see a double rainbow later today too. Ultimately most of these guys who date younger women are doing so because they are the best looking option they have. The older women don't have the same caliber of looks and like who cares about the rest if you're a dude doing this sort of thing anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 05:00 PM
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Like asking which is more imaginary, unicorns or bigfoot.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 04:22 PM
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My hypothesis is that it is MOSTLY these two factors: A version of 3/4: More men are on OLD and are looking for dates and sex overall. Social Media has made it easier for a thirsty hot guy to dm all the good enough women in his radius, and when men date down so commonly, women don't have to. Men are more likely to "multidate", so there does not need to be assortive mating. Even if a woman is looking for an LTR, they will naturally give their attention to the chads interested, and when Chad won't…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 08:44 PM
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How many women could realistically get tips on a Twitch stream lol
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 08:30 PM
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Dick is cheap
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 10:45 PM
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Why don’t you want women to have sex with you?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 10:44 PM
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Red pill did not come up with this shit lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 04:17 AM
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The red pill is q anon for incels
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 04:14 AM
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Guys who read this sub don’t want girls past early 20s that’s “post wall”!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 10:29 PM
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Those girls have issues
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 06:23 PM
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To say there is a general sentiment amongst the community would not mean that each user independently has that opinion... I wouldn't say they all are anti-porn or anti-BDSM for example, but that is the general sentiment of FDS. Maybe things have changed but FDS users that I have interacted with (whom I do enjoy interacting with!) have seemed to indicate they think the same thing (that the feminism in FDS is more trans exclusionary than inclusive)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 08:38 PM
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I meant the sub is overrun with trans exclusive radfems so they generally are anti trans. I don’t have a problem with most of the content there but there are specific rules and beliefs held by fds that go beyond dating advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 08:23 PM
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Those might be newer things but there is a consistent trend on there of late that all men with mental illness are scrotes. Also it’s TERF city so what do you expect?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 08:20 PM
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3 month rule. First date guidelines. No mental illness. No transgenders. Among other things. There is a handbook
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 08:18 PM
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Not true, there are explicit guidelines, FDS means something specific
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 08:08 PM
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It’s not a zero sum game. Just has to do with how much effort is expected of us
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 12:59 AM
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Women put *zero* effort into online dating Expect you to carry their dry ass conversation Expect you to ask them out Expect you to plan the entire date Expect you to pay for everything Expect you to love doing this with no other reward but their dry ass conversation. And then they gather the audacity to call men low effort?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 07:41 PM
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There’s most likely a correlation. Men are lionized for sleeping around, partly because of cultural misogyny. Guys who can this are incentivized to do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 02:20 PM
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Yes I agree with all of that
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 10:31 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 03:15 AM
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Deliberately not having sex when you want to with a guy is no better as a tactic than pushing through and sleeping with them in hopes something more comes out of it. A man who repeatedly pushes you for sex before you're ready is not a suitable partner. I'm pretty sure I'm just agreeing with you though... I just don't see what you get out of making a "fuckboy" wait a little while longer, you're just going to discover they're a fuckboy later on. But I'm also coming from the perspective that I don'…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 01:33 AM
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There is always porn, it was here when you showed up and it will remain when you perish
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 12:31 AM
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That part of it, I have no issue with
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 11:01 PM
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Ooh interesting. Can I dm you something I wrote that might be similar in intent?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 10:19 PM
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Abuse of women is a result of a patriarchical culture where they lack the power to be seen as sympathetic figures in my view. I'm probably self selecting in doomscrolling to see the bad stuff on there but I really think if you buy into the handbook in full it would result in unhappiness and toxic behavior. I identify with the "pinkpill" or bluepill I guess more than anything else out there bc male cruelty in dating is far too normalized. Had lots of positive interactions with readers and users o…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 09:44 PM
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Some don't. Most do. Most women in FDS would want men to be healthy and happy and not trapped by toxic masculinity/gender roles. This isn't something I can prove but my impression of FDS is they want men who maximize their male gender identity. They constantly shame men with poor mental health and low wealth. What about the "patriarch" created by the patriarchy actually would be considered low value? The HVM trope seems more, not less, tied into traditional masculinity than the average guy. They…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 09:22 PM
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Do you use FDS? I really don't think they want men to be their authentic selves.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 08:29 PM
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What do you think PinkPillMen would be like?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 07:40 PM
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Based reply
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 04:18 PM
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Manosphere/Femosphere is just rationalizing hatred of any man/woman that: Isn't attractive to them Isn't attracted to them
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 04:16 PM
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“Would you apply the same judgement for a single dad?” YES. Why should you accept being sloppy seconds? Know your worth
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 02:31 PM
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I don’t give a fuck about their count. So no
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 02:29 PM
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god forbid anyone is invested in emotional intimacy with someone of the other sex, it's unpossible! men mars women venus you see
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 01:29 AM
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I honestly am worried that I’m going to internalize women’s true interest in me is only expressed via sex thanks to ppd
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 01:22 AM
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I am embarrassed of being a virgin because it is a reflection of my value as a potential intimate partner. Doesn't this contradict your post title?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 01:19 AM
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That's the only way to start a healthy relationship. Because you have to have both people being vulnerable or it won't work. Ha, I don't know if I agree with that necessarily. But it's true we are working within the confines of these built in expectations. We can't just throw them away and expect everything to work out. Which is why I will always offer and won't ever complain about paying for dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 01:15 AM
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For the record I still pay for the dates... even if they offer.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 01:04 AM
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This is another example of what I think is the primary driver of VAW I don't think the majority of date rapes are premeditated, I think men just have very little conditioned ability to prevent themselves from abusing their sociocultural power over women Their ability to overpower them physically certainly makes things easier. But it's not the primary reason it's almost always men imo. As Jenny Holzer says: ABUSE OF POWER COMES AS NO SURPRISE And she suggests: RAISE BOYS AND GIRLS THE SAME WAY
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 01:01 AM
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Girl likes a guy who treats them really well: "Makes me feel special" Girl doesn't like a guy who treats them really well: "Oneitis, obsessed, puts pussy on pedestal" Frankly it doesnt matter how nice the date is women are not gonna treat the guy much differently. If they think he's high enough status and good looking enough they'll go through with the relationship and if not he's toast. TL;DR Be attractive don't be unattractive
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 12:50 AM
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I'm really sorry this all happened to you. No matter what you did or didn't understand makes anything that happened to you justified. Thanks for posting about your experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 12:44 AM
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Smart points. I do wonder if IPV being more common than actual stranger danger is moreso that IPV is men lashing out in anger at their surroundings (as men are psychologically prone to do) and not just the desire to commit violence against women coming out now that they finally cornered them
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 12:40 AM
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I didn't know the context of each interaction and it does seem like based on a different comment a lot of the time the assailant was pushing for her to "take them home", so what I said would be irrelevant. You're right
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 12:38 AM
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As it turns out, it's estimated that 3 out of 4 date rapists consumed alcohol prior to committing the rape, but only half of the victims did
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 12:36 AM
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It's just my understanding of the dating vernacular that "come over to my house" means "come over to my house so we can bang"
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 12:33 AM
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"Wrong" is not the word I would use. There is never a "right" and "wrong" thing to do to prevent rape. But I was confused by the fact that so many of these instances ended in unwanted sexual interaction... because I didn't understand why she would have invited them to her home if she wasn't fully intending on having sex. It's not "wrong" to do that, it's just like thinking "netflix and chill" involves watching netflix
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 12:28 AM
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Harrowing but necessary to read for me. Thanks for all you’ve shared.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 12:04 AM
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I don't disagree with anything you said. The fact that she's only having first dates in public (which I do as well) is the changed behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 11:55 PM
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that’s why they thought they could get away with it not to be a doomer but they pretty much always get away with it https://www.creditdonkey.com/date-rape-statistics.html
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 11:53 PM
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My concern is that stranger danger is an obselete phenomenon because trusted men just end up committing the violence women were afraid of
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 11:51 PM
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Do you really think she hasn't thought of this? No? How do we let men run the country if we think it's okay that they might confuse and invitation to watch tv with an invitation to rape them? I'm certainly not pro-patriarchy so we probably agree? This is not an uncommon thing, men have willful ignorance of what consent is or isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 11:47 PM
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it was my impression that seems not to line up with general consensus that theres undue stranger danger fear and too much comfort with partners that can easily and often turn violent
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 11:44 PM
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I don't think this question would apply to you then, but thanks for sharing your perspective anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 11:33 PM
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when i let guys come to my house for the first hang out, 90% of them would sexually assault me or attempt to There's zero justifying this so this is not a defense. Merely making an observation. If you invited them to your home for the first interaction it seems plausible that the men would think you wanted to have sex. Guys do know better than to completely miss signs of nonconsent though, so...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 11:30 PM
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Thanks for your response. I have my friends GPS track me on the first several dates IK it's just anecdotal evidence, but do you do the same for your friends? Did you get the idea from a peer or from elsewhere?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 11:27 PM
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Okay, we have different definitions of that then.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/21 08:01 PM
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go find someone who cares
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/21 06:31 PM
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You can’t make people change if they don’t want to
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/21 05:19 PM
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Yeah well don’t go full Maga at 60 or get obese and expect me to be cool with it
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/21 05:13 PM
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So is the "CC" girl just someone who has sex on the third date? and the other kind of girl isn't having sex until they get exclusivity?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/21 04:49 PM
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CMV: "Til Death" is stupid. People change all the time. The world changes all the time. Trying to live in a vacuum is delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/21 04:45 PM
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I think women shoot higher than their own level for this precise reason. They don't think they should have to settle for a looksmatch who won't do any cooking or cleaning and doesn't make more money than them. And that's the way most men - western or not - expect a woman to behave in a heterosexual partnership.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/21 04:43 PM
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I think most people aren't having sex with people they're not pursuing as long term partners though. There are undoubtably women who will take control of their situation and seek out "a good time not a long time". It's never been less taboo to do that, but I still see people preferring something resembling partnership
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/21 04:41 PM
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It makes sense to me. I've really only met two women in my life that fulfill that idea. One of them got married at like 26. The other has had long term relationships, including a year+ one with a 5'7 guy who wasn't rich or bulky.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/21 04:35 PM
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I don’t see how this isn’t the equal and opposite reaction implied by the just world theory, seeing that it would be “just” for the unattractive to be wholly unable to find anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/21 03:26 PM
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This just isn’t the case for the vast majority of people
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/21 03:11 PM
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This is assuming an unrealistic level of scarcity. A man maximizing his own attractiveness and SMV is not going to be spending hours per day on OLD and cold approaching because too much time with friends, work, and exercise. Anyone who does all that stuff should have a level of options that suit them greater than zero.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/21 01:55 PM
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Meh. I don’t know about that. Some people end up alone but i don’t buy that anyone is destined to end up alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/21 05:43 AM
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this is no less of a strawman, the fact of the matter is your entire ideology is based on this idea that all women are fucking who they want while telling other guys they're not that kind of girl, but it's completely contrived bullshit
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/21 03:26 AM
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Giving up because it's not important to you is totally fine. Giving up because you think it's not possible for you to succeed just strikes me as delusional. All kinds of unattractive out there have found somebody... unless you won't settle for something you can't obtain.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/21 03:05 AM
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The main one is anxiety. You might find a guy like me on /r/foreveralone. The good news is, I'm in my physical prime. But I have never been a social butterfly, and have extreme insecurity about my career path without stable full-time employment at the moment. I want to enrich my life with dating experiences to understand what makes me happy in companionship, partnership, or a long term relationship. But I've never had success doing that consistently. I failed the one opportunity I ever had to pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 07:20 PM
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The last category is the ultimate RP boogeyman that hardly exists but is so frightening that their prevalence needs to be implied to justify the mindset. If you actually believe most women do that you’re a projecting misogynist
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 11:39 AM
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Lol Jesus so the guy should just what, boycott sex? Because he’s mad some other guy was hotter in his early 20s?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 11:28 AM
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Well it's not logical?? You act like getting mad about getting pussy because she slept with someone else 5 years ago is rational
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 02:57 AM
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What is gonna happen if he pursues this? He has 1 sex? Just get a hooker
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 02:55 AM
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The ego exercises are so obvious
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 01:12 AM
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I wouldn’t dismiss the joys of sex even without the other benefits of a relationship. That’s totally a valid thing to want! Lots of women decide after they meet a man they just want a sexual relationship with them. It’s reality and we are best suited living in it. Just uh this isn’t the way to go about it
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 01:11 AM
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I’m NLOG 😏 /s if it wasn’t obvious
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 01:09 AM
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The men in PPD clearly have a large insecurity about having to do more to get sex from a given woman than another man did.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/21 10:42 PM
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You’re putting a lot of energy into it still to prove a point. Seems like scarcity mindset
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/21 09:14 PM
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Sure you can have a problem with this kind of trait (would be a red flag knowing someone is being calculated and deliberate) but why not just find someone else if you don’t like them
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/21 08:55 PM
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I want to agree with you OP but this contention is just far too utopian to be ever considered on a serious level. I think there is a difference between the idea that people should sacrifice looks altogether (completely unrealistic unless you are ace, and even then) and the idea that they should not settle only for looks. Women have huge leverage in dating, and they are generally able to pick the highest value men to date, fuck, or whatever they want. They usually pick hot and high character. The…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/21 06:48 PM
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This is no way to think about anything. Draw your own conclusions from the merits, not "well there are arguments for and against so we will never know".
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/21 12:40 PM
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Lots of people internalize that being an attractive partner is all about being a good person. Then when this doesn't prove true they internalize that the opposite is true. ​ The fact of the matter is that neither is all that tethered in reality. What makes a partner attractive are the qualities outlined here. Women may say they want a guy who is kind but that is mostly an externalization of what they think they "should want". Men who establish true emotional connections with women platonically f…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 03:10 PM
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That’s one of the parts of fds I do agree with then
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/21 03:20 AM
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This is true and unfortunate 😔
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/21 12:09 AM
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Why does mental illness make someone a lvm
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/21 12:06 AM
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Well I mean the demanding they pay for dates and no sex
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/21 11:07 PM
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No thank you!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/21 08:28 PM
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Just have a mindset of caring about your well-being. FDS say not to date mentally ill men. They say ugly men aren't worth your time. Why is it now about having basic care and respect? Why not just bluepill and think more of your fellow man?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/21 06:41 PM
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Q4A: How bluepilled do you think the meatspace is?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/21 06:08 PM
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they probably work harder on their appearance in hopes women have more patience
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/21 03:54 AM
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Female friendship is so vital for the emotional intelligence of a man
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/21 03:35 AM
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Pretty cynical.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/21 03:07 AM
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Never seen FDS advocate for a protector, what do you mean
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/21 12:19 AM
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FDS views relationships as transactional much more than this sub. Don’t know what you mean. SMV is a predictor of who can attract whom and not actually what people are using to make decisions.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/21 12:17 AM
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this isn't true. men love bitches
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 11:40 PM
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you created a straw man that you still lost to, impressive. who is telling the venting /r/foreveralone man to can it? nobody.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 11:37 PM
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You have to throw out a lot of the rules for cities because the proportion of women is higher.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 11:35 PM
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I don't get your point
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 11:27 PM
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Lots of ppd posting is not particularly interested in “empirical arguments”
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/21 11:40 PM
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Seen a lot of different levels of resentment and targets personally. Remembering that neither self professed incel terrorist only killed women
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/21 07:45 PM
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Yeah. Black and white thinking is not the cure for galaxy brain thinking. It's simple enough to understand the chips falling if you have a strong framework on gender politics.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/21 06:58 PM
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I agree with the comment I replied to. But what I'm just describing is the normal tug of war in the SMP. Men want women to expand who they are willing to date and women want other women to restrict who they are willing to date, to whoever will put up with their criteria.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/21 06:51 PM
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Not one or the other. P in V doesn’t get them off as easily and men care less about women getting off than vice versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/21 05:56 PM
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Well yeah. This is exactly why men are angry about hyperagymy. They don’t want women to chase after the top 20% because that leaves them out of the fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/21 04:28 PM
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ubiquity doesn't make anything easier to enjoy. think of a popular song you hate. you don't try to get yourself to like something about it the 65th time you hear it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/21 04:12 PM
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I’m not successful at all, my life is in a tough spot right now! I guess that’s not uncommon though
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/21 10:59 PM
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I relate to this so very strongly it's probably my number 1 self esteem issue right now
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/21 09:35 PM
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World isn't black and white like this. If a girl is getting cornered by a creep at the bar, another guy should put a stop to it. But the Polytechnique massacre is a whole different scenario. The guys didn't know what was happening for one, and also would be risking their lives in an extremely disadvantageous scenario.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/21 08:54 PM
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i do not think i have ever encountered someone who i determined hated me just because i was a man. i see it as internet posturing for fun. i have not met everyone in the world though.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/21 01:52 AM
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they do not actually mean all men they are trying to make you mad
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/21 01:43 AM
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Alright I’m not gonna reach consensus with you but I think it’s important to find what your hard nos are and what you might compromise one day for greater happiness.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/21 10:01 PM
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Difference between it being a line in the sand for you and you just not wanting to.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/21 04:50 PM
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Sounds like we agree then.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/21 04:44 PM
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Wouldn’t you rather be doing something you enjoy fully 100% of the time? Of course, but sometimes we do things we don’t love doing so we can be happier overall. Or because it’s the right thing to do, like providing pleasure to someone you love or even like
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/21 04:33 PM
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I don't think most women think that most men are obsessed misogynistic and dangerous to women. I agree with this, my take is that women don't think most men are dangerous to women but rather most of the people that are dangerous to women are men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/21 04:16 PM
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Yes it fucking is... But some women are goddamn racists themselves. Why would they filter against racists then??? I see what you mean. I'm sorry for the crass way I talked about this. A better way of expressing my point might be that women do not go into the dating world looking to reward men for being the most moral person they can be. The true and commonly recited talking point cited to the Nice Guy TM is that women are not vending machines that you put brownie points into until sex comes out.…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/21 04:13 PM
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Do you enjoy working for a living?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/21 03:55 PM
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Really appreciate your response. I can see the OP's point but do tend to extrapolate my own experience. My take is that sometimes women don't actually like "nice guys", this isn't what they are looking for. Their #1 concern isn't character or values. It's not necessarily evil of them. Should be repeated though often understood unsaid that this is obviously not the #1 concern men have. I am not different in that aspect. I couldn't hang out with a racist or transphobe but I'd date someone who vote…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/21 03:37 PM
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It should be a fundamental foundation of good character. Starting with the right attitude about misogyny and sexism because we're talking about a man establishing a relationship with someone he has power over by default. When men like me who spend lots of time trying to internalize feminist thought see women ignore those ideas in choosing men, it's confusing and causes anger.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/21 02:35 PM
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Why do so many men who don't meet the so-called bare minimum of being nice, end up with partners anyway? I have no idea why they can't figure this out. Like no niceness is NOT the bare minimum. If it was then there'd be no abusers. No need for /r/femaledatingstrategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/21 02:50 AM
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