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Ye. My prediction is they will have to learn the hard way.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/21 10:28 PM
2

Who cares. We have different strengths and weaknesses. Learn to deal with reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/21 09:25 PM
3

Ok. Well in my opinion yes it was a mistake to ask if she’s cool with it. Telling her you’re in a lot of pain isn’t a problem. She wants you to be the leader but asking for her validation makes her feel in the driving seat which most women don’t really want.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/21 06:17 PM
4

Depends what you’re opening up about, how you do it and what is the context. Most women don’t react to information they react to the way it makes them feel about you. You can open up with strength or cry like a pussy. You need to frame questions with better nuance.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/21 06:06 PM
1

Sometimes it’s impossible, sometimes it’s tricky, sometimes it’s plain easy to spot. I do empathise that some guys lie for sex but I think a lot of cases could be filtered out with some basic rules.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/21 11:42 PM
2

You are inundated with offers for casual sex. You are not inundated by offers of relationships with quality guys. Don’t mistake one for the other. There’s not a lot of correlation.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/21 11:35 PM
1

Women tend to wait until they have another guy or a few orbiters in line before ending the relationship. Probably because they don’t want to give up whatever else they are currently getting like protection, money, attention. You have to understand from a female perspective it’s always handy to have a man around in case they need him for his physical strength or to help solve a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/21 01:25 PM
1

I never said they were the same things. No because it depends on where the attention is coming from. If it’s from a worthless man it’s worthless attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/21 01:17 AM
2

Most girls self worth revolves around male attention and the status/quality of man they can lockdown. Maybe you are the exception.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/21 12:31 AM
1

Sounds like you been pumped and dumped like the op.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/21 01:39 PM
2

Yes...and there are consequences.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/21 09:50 PM
0

Ah yes I forgot, a girl can never have too high standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/21 09:38 PM
1

The more you lower your standards the less guys will do this.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/21 09:32 PM
7

That study doesn’t say men see femininity as lesser. It says they see feminine behaviour in men as lesser.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/21 09:23 PM
1

Yep. All over the world
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/21 10:02 PM
1

Dunno. I love smashing 20 yo’s though.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/21 09:57 PM
2

You can’t help it don’t worry.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/21 09:52 PM
2

Girls are memes.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/21 09:49 PM
3

Cool. Now imagine that feeling of rejection 100x more frequently. Welcome to manhood.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/21 09:36 PM
3

Brushing your hair ‘accidentally’ against him and him not hitting on you isn’t rejection.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/21 08:15 PM
3

If you want the guys to do all the work how can you even claim your rejection is on the same level. It’s not. You just want them to put their neck on the line at your convenience under the guise of ‘letting them be men’
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/21 07:55 PM
9

Women feel rejected, men actually get rejected. Your situation is a great example. You feel rejected even though nothing has happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/21 07:36 PM
14

My guess is 95% of men have never been ‘asked out’ in their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/21 06:56 PM
12

Hilarious
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/21 06:00 PM
6

Why don’t you ask him out
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/21 05:13 PM
8

Being nice is a turn off to girls. They just can’t admit because virtue signalling.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/21 09:37 PM
1

I just think a lot of the time you ladies take things to the extreme. Maybe it’s just me. I believe it’s completely natural for me to lead my family. I have an instinct inside that tells me whatever happens I am ultimately responsible for the safety and well being of my (hypothetical) family. If we are under attack, if our house gets burnt down etc etc I am going to put my life on the line. Now, does a good leader listen to the opinions of his partner and utilise their talents for the whole team…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/21 06:03 PM
3

I agree, access to lots of casual sex is not much of a privilege because it’s not valued very highly by women. Mainly because they don’t have the functional instinct to bust out millions of sperm everyday like men. Women judge themselves and each other on the quality of man they are able to attract and lockdown. The real privilege is the queue of guys they will get for doing nothing during their peak. The challenge is utilising this free attention to lock down the highest quality guy whilst resi…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/21 05:43 PM
8

That is why I never mention my money or much about my job to a women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/21 12:30 PM
1

Thanks. Fair enough. I have also accepted that possibility. It’s just my tongue in cheek way of saying in my experience women do not like being pedestalised very long.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/21 11:45 PM
1

I think that’s very achievable. I’m sure many women do die alone. Personally I would focus on how well he can provide and protect the family.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/21 10:53 PM
1

Good luck finding a man to worship you. Sounds very healthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/21 10:13 PM
1

...and I can pay for a womb until they invent an artificial one.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/21 10:07 PM
1

Yes and they would not be able to accomplish it by themselves without protection and provision.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/21 10:00 PM
9

If you have status and money you should be able to get commitment as a guy. Just don’t lose them or she’ll leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/21 09:57 PM
1

Last time I checked it takes a man and a women to make babies.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/21 09:53 PM
3

Disagree. We pay attention to the most attractive and pursue sex opportunistically. I would never wife a slut but I will of course fuck her.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/21 02:27 AM
3

Men are not aroused by promiscuity. They take advantage of it for sex. It’s not cognitive dissonance. It’s a completely predictable outcome of biological competition - the instinct to impregnate as widely as possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/21 01:10 AM
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Delusional
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/21 01:03 AM
2

Not really. I was just taking her argument to it’s natural conclusion in order to point out the absurdity. You made something up I didn’t say. I actually agree that fertility isn’t the only factor. So therefore what is your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/21 12:48 AM
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Well, yes I never said any of that. There is a percentage of women who use men for money but I wouldn’t put married housewives into the same category. The OP is confused. Men are not attracted to promiscuity, they just know it’s an easier lay. They are attracted to all beauty.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/21 12:37 AM
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All I’m saying is just because men prioritise looks over career, doesn’t mean a women’s only option is to become a gold digger. There’s many shades in between as you’ve just illustrated.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/21 12:22 AM
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I never said fertility was the only factor. You need to learn to argue properly not put words on my mouth.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/21 12:19 AM
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There’s a big difference between a girl who wants free meals and a girl who is serious about a family and finding a provider man. Just because men prioritise fertility (who would have thought it) doesn’t give women a license to go around expecting men she doesn’t know to pick up the bill. However that is not the only choice for women and you are talking as if it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 11:36 PM
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I agree and I would not automatically label her a gold digger if she sought to marry a man who provided for a family.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 11:30 PM
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So your conclusion is...because men are not aroused by wealth...the women are exempt from personal financial responsibility and men should pay for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 11:17 PM
3

Nah. You will respect a man who dominates, has power and builds shit for society. Many girls fk guys they ‘hate’ but are aroused by.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/21 07:10 PM
1

No. Advancements in plastic surgery will have us all walking around like chads and stacy’s. I think that will mostly solve the desirability part. When that happens the focus might move more to resources.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 02:41 AM
1

Obviously. Men swipe right on everything out of laziness. I’d say it’s as much female pickiness as Male thirst.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 03:57 AM
2

Ideally most men would like to have as much sex as possible with as many women. An exclusive relationship is therefore a compromise. In return for this compromise (some) men ask for a women that hasn’t given up sex with lots of other guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 03:53 AM
4

This is a by-product of being born ‘in demand’.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/21 07:49 PM
1

Yes. If I get married I will have a clause
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/21 04:34 PM
1

Haha. People commenting just to reject your hypothetical.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/21 05:06 AM
1

Depends what standards you’re talking about. On tinder, women’s standards for looks is high, but their standards for giving it up are low (as in they don’t wait for a commitment). The problem is women swipe left on a large % of men who they would have otherwise been attracted to IRL. Fair enough. However this creates a small group of men who have huge choice (because women give sex quite easily to them) and are able to pump and dump these women. Women then complain ‘where have all the good men g…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/21 04:55 AM
1

Depends how well the guy ages
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 08:46 PM
2

Having a high sex drive can kill a man too. You said it yourself, dangerous lengths. I guess that doesn’t count though. Periods are absolutely comparable. It’s funny to see you get so triggered when someone defines what should and shouldn’t be important to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 08:30 PM
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Who exactly is claiming sex is the end all solution? I don’t know any man who believes sex will realistically solve all their problems. Getting sex is clearly a big problem for a vast majority of men. It’s pretty obvious if you just look at the lengths the average man will go to sometimes. It seems to me that you have no interest in trying to understand it and are rather disgusted by the fact that men have a sex drive. You can have your theory but it’s like a man trying to tell a women that peri…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 05:18 PM
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Ye. I think it’s a consequence of the fact men have evolved to be reliant on logic and strength to solve problems in the world. Women are more concerned with the community so it makes sense they are more naturally skilled manipulators. I also find it funny that women can hate game or trp, ignoring the fact that they are experts in similar aspects such as spinning plates. They don’t have terminology for it because it comes naturally. Sadly I believe a lot of female involvement in these discussion…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 03:30 AM
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Exactly. It’s almost impossible to have a discussion about reality these days without it getting taken as a personal assault. Some people seem incapable of distinguishing between the way things are and the way they want them to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 10:18 PM
1

I’m immune to sluts
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/20 06:46 PM
1

Have fun in your fantasy world.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/20 06:23 AM
2

Ah
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/20 06:54 PM
1

Eh?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/20 06:52 PM
3

Nah. If a guys a good looking multi millionaire athlete no women would see his n count as a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/20 06:35 PM
16

Start planning your move to Asia or s.america
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/20 10:50 AM
4

Serve me or die. It’s a good summary of the modern women’s attitude towards men. You think you know, but you are really just seeking out men to confirm your view and justify your behaviour.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/20 10:28 AM
5

That ‘real men’ trope is just a female tactic used to shame men they don’t like. It’s classic.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/20 03:29 AM
4

You don’t get to tell men what’s important to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/20 03:21 AM
4

You talk as if men only look at n count. At the end of the day, most men just want to know their girl hasn’t been ploughed by the whole town and doesn’t give herself away cheaply.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/20 03:20 AM
1

Men and women don’t value the same things. Imagine that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/20 03:11 AM
2

Well, yes it’s true. Then it really comes down to what degree you believe success is pre-determined. The end point of that argument is that anyone who is unsuccessful never had the right combination of timing, opportunity, attributes etc. It’s starts becoming philosophical at that point. Whilst I agree we all start from wildly different beginnings and have different maximum capacities, I think most people don’t even come close to their own personal potential. Yes you can claim that’s because the…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/20 08:26 PM
1

Jesus Christ. My whole point is that it is higher risk choosing to be man but you have the possibility of many more offspring. If you care about becoming someone with the success of Genghis Kahn then you better choose to be Male. I don’t see why that’s so difficult to understand. Men lose looks as they age but can compensate with money and status which they have great control over. Women cannot compensate with anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/20 07:34 AM
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Success isn’t binary. There are degrees of success. How many women do you know who had the success of a genghis khan? Yes I made the point about perishability in the original post. It’s just another aspect of not having control over your value. So you’re basically saying every person would always choose to be female if they could. I just don’t agree. It depends on their preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/20 07:04 AM
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You’re not following my arguments unfortunately. Women have more inherent value but less control over it. Men have higher upside and lower downside. These are the factors you would need to consider if you can choose which gender to be in your next life. It’s a game of probability. So yes, it does depend how you look at it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/20 06:14 AM
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You’re arguing that because the lowest common denominator can have success, that it’s easier to be a women. Depends how you look at it. Life as a man is high risk high reward. The distribution of rewards are not as evenly spread for men as they are for women. Yes, every women even the ugliest will be able to mate. However, they do not have the potential to be as genetically successful as the top 1% of men with harems.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/20 05:37 AM
1

You miss my point. I’m not saying an ugly girl has zero options. I’m saying she’s not in control of her beauty like a man is in control of his status and wealth.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/20 05:19 AM
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I agree with the basic premise. I’d say it’s compounded by the mismatch in values of the average young man vs young women. However to expand I’d also say it’s a case of choosing your poison. Women aren’t in control of their natural (declining) beauty - what can you do if your born an ugly girl? Men are somewhat in control of their status and resources - a poor man can always become rich. I’d say the analogy to the angry beta is the bitter older women who sees her ex husband dating a 22 yo.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/20 09:24 PM
0

If it feels like she’s playing games it means she wants to keep you on ice as a future option. Either that or she’s sucking all the attention possible from you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/20 06:42 PM
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So as long as they are doing exactly what you want you have no problem. Great philosophy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/20 09:50 PM
2

Hypergamy is the engine room of humanity. It’s not objectively good or bad it’s a consequence of evolution.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/20 03:57 PM
1

Never been to japan. It’s a nice fantasy though
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/20 03:28 PM
1

It’s hard to even match with a 7 in the Uk. Most of them seem to be old and overweight.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/20 07:38 AM
1

Nope. I don’t have a fetish. I’m just playing an easier game.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/20 07:30 AM
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There were periods where I was seeing more girls than I could handle and there are periods where it’s quieter. Maybe 1 new girl a week on average. I’d say they were mostly 5-7s. Harder to get 8+ without a LTR.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/20 07:04 AM
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I did. I got a remote job so I could leave the west. In SEA I’m taller, richer, more muscly, educated, have an ‘exotic’ look, western passport etc. Obviously it’s far easier to get casual or relationships with decent women and I would never want to try dating in the west again.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/20 06:04 AM
1

Ok I’m sorry. I’m sure they’re a bunch of kind, sweet hearted, good looking pussies.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/20 06:17 PM
1

That’s probably because you hang round with a bunch of pussies.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/20 06:13 PM
0

Attention is everything to women. Take it away and watch them suffer. Men don’t want to listen to a girl talk. They want the p and for her to leave. That’s why they pay.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/20 06:06 PM
2

Plenty of women do it already. They look for a wealthy guy. Prostitution is in your biology
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/20 05:50 PM
2

I think you fundamentally misunderstood that I’m talking about the future.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/20 05:23 PM
2

Am I forcing women to sign up to seeking arrangement? Women are shunting themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/20 05:14 PM
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I think this is where the dating market is heading. It will be a like a subscription model for a gf. I travel a lot and It’s obvious how much easier it would be to pay seeking arrangement than the hundreds of hours it takes to find anything on tinder. It would allow mankind to shift their focus into real-world problems rather than looks maxing. It’s also funny to me that this model would mirror traditional marriage, where the man is the breadwinner. It’s like going full circle.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/20 12:06 PM
1

All you did here is call me pedantic, attack my personality and say that I’m too logical for you. I would work on adding some substance to your interactions and avoid making it personal.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/20 03:11 PM
1

Can you give an example of some generosity you would find attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/20 01:33 PM
1

Being the life of the party isn’t the objective of a debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/20 08:17 AM
1

Check the name of the thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/20 08:06 AM
1

In your opinion, not in mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/20 08:03 AM
1

It’s not pedantic to point out hypocrisy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/20 07:49 AM
1

Well, maybe they are also being facetious like you to make a point. I do not consider myself a red piller or it to be ‘my group’. I try to avoid tribal thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/20 09:58 PM
1

So you are just as good as the red pillers that you hate so much. Congratulations.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/20 09:39 PM
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I don’t feel anything. It’s just illogical.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/20 09:34 PM
4

Did you notice you are exaggerating yourself in order to strengthen your accusation that red pillers are exaggerating. Just an observation.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/20 08:57 PM
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I think it’s nuanced. Yes when there’s unlimited chad in front of her she is going to follow the easy short term pleasure much of the time. It doesn’t mean that’s what will fullfill her biologically. As you say, she may not even know what will satisfy her when you ask. It’s like being surrounded by cake when the healthiest thing you could do is lose weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/20 08:13 PM
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No I don’t think so. From a mans perspective getting easy sex sounds great. However deep down I don’t believe the average girl would feel great about having many ONS. They place more value on relationships and the older she gets the less attractive she is to men in general. The only winners I can think are the super high value men who can sleep with all the women and not commit.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/20 05:03 PM
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No. They could not introduce me to a girl I’m attracted to. I think you’re making a lot of assumptions. I’ve approached and talked to hundreds girls irl over the last 5 years. Yes I don’t generally have girls as friends. Only ones I’ve slept with. I don’t really get what your point is anyway...so you’re saying no matter how successful a man gets he will always need someone to introduce him to a girl? My point is that online dating is fkd.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/20 06:37 AM
5

Yes. I lived 29 years in London and have friends there.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/20 06:14 AM
5

I already did. I’m a digital nomad and I travel round the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/20 05:40 AM
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I work wherever I want, earn well over six figures, have multiples of that in savings, highly educated (engineering), have muscles, decent face, always self developing, good humour/ witty IRL, self reflective personality. I’ve given up on any dating aspirations. After years of dating apps, literally thousands of matches and hundreds of dates I don’t think I met one girl I’d consider ‘attractive’ or who I’d actually enjoy spending time with rather than myself. I just don’t care anymore. I won’t e…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/20 06:59 PM
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Ask Mother Nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/20 06:16 PM
1

Yes obviously. I’m making a comparison between female declining beauty and a male who loses his wealth, not trying to give FIRE advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/20 09:37 AM
1

No not consciously
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/20 09:36 PM
1

I think what makes a long lasting relationship healthy is the fact that you continue to choose each other, despite knowing you could walk away anytime.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/20 04:15 PM
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I agree it’s irrational. Most people succumb to the halo effect subconsciously. We cannot help it as humans. Personally I hate this ‘white knight’ behaviour because it’s disingenuous, deceitful and basically downright cowardly to beg for someone else’s validation. It doesn’t breed respect and you are asking to get treated like a doormat.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/20 11:37 AM
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TRP never denied male nature because that is already well understood. True female nature was not.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/20 05:32 AM
1

Same to you
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/20 08:59 PM
1

Yes I know
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/20 08:55 PM
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*you’re
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/20 08:52 PM
0

I think a metaphor about the deterioration of female beauty is just too advanced for a 5 year old sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/20 08:48 PM
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It’s when you’re too stupid to understand something so you call it stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/20 08:40 PM
5

Lol. The irony.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/20 08:35 PM
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Being born a pretty girl is like being born a trust fund guy. You’ll get fake validation from all your ‘friends’ who are hovering trying to get a piece of the action, avoiding need for any real personal development. Eventually all your money will disappear along with your friends’. It’s easy mode but there are consequences for being handed things on a plate.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/20 08:29 PM
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It’s not babying. It’s guys trying to get in her pants.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/20 08:17 PM
6

So why make a snidy remark rather than just asking about it. Most likely you don’t know what it is because you’ve not seen much of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/20 03:16 PM
7

Nice contribution
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/20 03:06 PM
13

She has that feminine energy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/20 01:32 PM
2

The one who pumped and dumped for free
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 05:20 PM
2

I’m only interested in the topic of men vs women. Sorry to disappoint you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 04:26 AM
2

Nope. Just addressing the question. You seem desperate to switch topics.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 04:22 AM
2

The thread is asking about the insecurities between man vs women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 04:19 AM
2

Yes I can.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 04:08 AM
6

Sometime they are just sexually frustrated, not jealous of a low smv girl. Although it can happen. The same way a women gets jealous when she hits the wall and her SMV plummets.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 04:02 AM
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To be even more fairer none of that negates what I said. It just adds to the evidence that men are taught not to be whiny or emotional because they will lose respect and attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 03:48 AM
8

This mental gymnastics is hilarious. Yes, we are conditioned to not open up. By women. When they penalise us for opening up.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 07:50 PM
1

I never said all women were not interested in casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 04:36 AM
1

Most men would have a harem if they could. At least for some portion of their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 03:32 PM
1

Yes many of them may still get what they call HVM but it’s a survivorship bias. They have no idea what men they may have gotten had they not behaved that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 02:44 PM
2

Pretty much. So many women expect men to be something they’re not and end up disappointed.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 10:52 AM
23

No. It proves they either don’t need it or that they don’t want casual sex only.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 10:48 AM
1

People always see the world in such binary terms like: ‘get in a relationship or not’. The point is she is reducing the probability of a HVM.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 10:32 AM
1

If she thinks it’s cool to sell pics of her body on only fans...or post pics of her ass on IG...definitely I prefer to be single.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 10:27 AM
3

Because most men have to learn to treat women like that (game) and it doesn’t feel natural because they’ve been conditioned otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 08:58 PM
1

Exactly
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 07:26 PM
5

Experienced men know that it’s a turn off if he shows too much interest too quickly. He might like you, just that he’s trying to ‘manage’ your attraction levels.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 07:22 PM
-1

She’s hot and she idolises me. In a healthy way. I wouldn’t want a girl who has a ton of male orbiters on IG.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 06:48 PM
2

Do you not think this will just balance out naturally? I hardly think the human race will allow itself to become extinct in this fashion.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 05:04 PM
16

Not just pretty women. There are plenty of average looking women who’d rather use only fans and seeking arrangement than have a bf.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 02:37 PM
1

I saw a study saying women see 80% of men as below average. So maybe the answer is to change women’s perception of men to be more realistic?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 07:41 PM
0

I prefer to go massage parlour than tap an ugly girl. Much more efficient and better experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 07:35 PM
2

Obviously more women are marrying men who have less eduction than them. When women are increasingly more educated what do you expect to happen?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/20 07:31 PM
2

As I say, clearly you will never accept feminism played any role in changing the smp. Regardless of men’s decisions. There is no point debating it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 09:00 AM
1

Haha. It’s so telling that you interpret everything as ‘whining’ and ‘blame’. It’s genuinely sad for me tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 08:40 AM
1

When I said there ‘consequences‘, did I say they were positive or negative?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 08:36 AM
1

So you chose to ignore the fact I said multiple times I don’t view it as good or bad?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 08:30 AM
2

I think you have already decided in your mind that there are no possible negative consequences of feminism. Therefore it is a pointless discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 08:25 AM
2

You need to stop viewing everything as an attack on feminism. It only creates divisiveness. I’m purely saying there are consequences for the sexual marketplace as women become more financially independent. Especially when you add technology.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 08:17 AM
1

Even as celebrity you need game. Your celebrity appeal will not last forever with a lot of women if you have bad game.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 08:05 AM
1

That’s all fine. But do you seriously think women on average were as career minded back then and earning the kind of resources they do now in corporate jobs? Of course not. I don’t understand why you’re intent on debating that point.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 08:04 AM
1

Women in the labour force has not been the norm no. In the early 20th century only 5% married women were part of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 07:46 AM
1

And she is amber fucking heard.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 07:37 AM
1

That’s untrue. First rule of Tomassi: Frame is everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 07:22 AM
2

Purchasing power is amount of goods that can be purchased with one unit. Any country that now requires two wages to support a household is evidence of a decrease in PP.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 07:19 AM
1

Yes because you’re focused on the literal amount not the purchasing power of the money.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 07:01 AM
1

She said she wanted ‘other points of view’ Clearly not.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 06:55 AM
2

Didn’t say it was bad. Didn’t say I was against it. I said it was a cause.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 06:50 AM
2

Yes exactly, they have got richer. They are strong and independent remember. Absolutely nothing to do with feminism there.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/20 09:40 PM
1

“ As women focus have shifted to careers they have gotten richer and men poorer. They have a higher standard of provisioning and men are less capable at providing it “ Is what I wrote originally. You have a great way of producing straw mans and asking for evidence for things nothing to do with what I said. You don’t think women have got richer thanks to feminism? Take out men have gotten poorer if you disagree (even though I think it’s true). It doesn’t change anything about what I said
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/20 09:23 PM
1

It’s funny that you don’t use citations only ask for them. No sorry, I’m not going to cite logic. We now need 2 salaries to pay for a household, whereas before one (usually the mans) was enough. If you really want to believe feminism had nothing to do with this go ahead.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/20 09:02 PM
1

So what happens when you double the number of people in the workforce?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/20 08:22 PM
0

I wasn’t very impressed with your insight either. Then again, I wouldn’t expect someone who is already married to have an unbiased view. It’s like asking a turkey to vote for Christmas.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/20 08:20 PM
1

Yes. When I write I’m assuming a desirable partner is one that has not left you. I take your point though. What I really meant was, the maximum of those four qualities you can attain whilst still keeping him.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/20 08:09 PM
2

Obviously you weren’t just playing. The sky is blue. Is it a fact? Yes. Does it have anything to do with my points? No. I said there were 3 causes, Feminism being one. Instead you conveniently chose to ignore this nuance and create a few straw mans using your ‘facts’. But anyway...let’s take your first point for fun. No I’m not talking about any ‘economic effects’. I’m talking specifically about increasing the number of people in the labour force by introducing more women. This was a result of f…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/20 07:40 PM
3

Easy. Those celebrities aren’t red pilled and they don’t have game.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/20 06:40 PM
3

There is no point debating with someone who is intent on playing dumb sorry. I never use the word ‘blame’, you did. I’m saying what the cause is. Personally I couldn’t care less but I’m not going to waste discussing with someone who believes I’m filled with hatred towards women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/20 08:47 AM
3

It’s feminism + technology + feminine upbringing of men. As women focus shifted to careers they have gotten richer and men poorer. They have a higher standard for men’s provisioning and men are less capable at providing it. Throw tinder and promiscuity into the mix and the consequences are obvious. The final factor is men being bought up to believe in romanticism and treating women like princesses. They will learn this is a trick when they see women dating the bad guys, the cocky guys etc. The r…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/20 05:34 AM
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Let me tell you a secret... Most men wish there was no need for the red pill. If they could find a cute girl who was fun to be around and keep her...why would they bother with the red pill?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/20 06:17 PM
9

No. I see around 50% divorces and many others unhappily married.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/20 02:28 PM
2

Hardworking, smart and capable is what gets you rich and high status. I never said attractive without substance. I said rich, high status, attractive and .... every girl wants to be with him. Trust me I wish what you were saying was more true. It once was. However you should ask all the hardworking honest guys who cannot get a gf.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/20 01:59 PM
4

Plenty of people do it? Oh great argument! The question is what is desirable. But ok let’s have a debate about whether most women want a wealthy guy or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/20 01:42 PM
6

Who cares. If has all of these but he is poor, ugly and a pussy nice guy girls won’t want him.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/20 01:31 PM
8

Attraction. You’re assuming women are rational.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/20 01:27 PM
9

He’s rich, high status, good looking but most importantly... Every girl wants to fuck him and in your mind you could lose him any time. That’s the perfect partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/20 01:02 PM
5

Because women will experience a cognitive dissonance between what feminism tells them and their own biology. Their biology is telling them their vagina is valuable. So obviously they will feel used if they give it up without getting something of comparable value in return.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/20 12:54 PM
2

Maybe you should try to address what I wrote instead of spouting some vague straw man. You really think guys don’t know they will be judged on their status and money? That was never a dispute. A man gets high status, money and respect by creating value for SOCIETY. That’s a high value man. Your definition of a HV man is one that takes orders from you. That’s the difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/20 11:15 PM
1

You will only truly know when you have the opportunity.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/20 08:45 PM
1

I bet you’d fk your ‘friend’ if she offered it up. Even if you won’t admit it here.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/20 08:23 PM
18

This rings so true. Not just in FDS but I see it on YT too. It’s the Tomi Lahren effect. They use ‘masculinity’ as a guise to shame men into doing things that benefit them. If you don’t do xyz it’s because you’re a boy, a LVM, have a small penis.... etc Zero empathy about the mans perspective or introspection on what value they bring or could improve on. The irony is they are filtering for pussified men who they can control, but they would grow to resent in the long but they don’t respect them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/20 07:12 AM
1

Ah so that explains why you are a biased.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/20 02:06 PM
1

You have one already
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/20 11:52 AM
1

Nah. Is the opposite. Players know how to keep attraction going. Prudes do not.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/20 10:05 AM
2

That’s my point. There’s no difference. So why you suggesting it would lead to a dead bedroom not doubt’?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/20 07:07 AM
2

Whereas being monogamous from a young age is guaranteed to prevent a dead bedroom?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/20 05:35 AM
2

I see. I think it is more of a phase most men go through. A bit like the ‘hoe phase’ girls like to refer to and celebrate. For example, right now I enjoy sleeping around and have no monogamous desire but in future I will probably have a family.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/20 09:53 PM
0

What is a fuck boy? Every boy likes to fuck
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/20 09:32 PM
1

Haha. Words are fun
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 10:34 PM
1

I prefer to walk my girls round on a leash. Guess I’m lazy. Dunno I’m not an expert. That’s why I oil her up just in case.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 08:03 PM
0

Well hopefully he didn’t use any bad slurs whilst he was doing you missionary.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 07:46 PM
4

Did you never have your back blown out?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 06:14 PM
1

Nope. A women could lie about it the same way a man can lie about his career. I don't give two fucks about your point, sorry. I said it's not relevant and I think women are quite capable of dumping men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 05:56 PM
1

​ The way you write makes you sound emotional...but anyway I can address any point I like...or none at all, the same way your original comment did. Nonetheless I'm ironing out what you said here: Guys here claim, ad nauseum, that women have NEAR INFINITE POWER in dating. That any woman can get THOUSANDS of guys for sex, and HUNDREDS for something more serious, at the drop of a hat. and explaining the mechanics behind how women gradually lose their power to attract relationships, which is relevan…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 05:40 PM
1

That’s because you’re not very good at reading between the lines. Science and biology don’t care about you feeling offended unfortunately, buddy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 04:59 PM
1

Yes. I said ‘if’. The more partner you the easier you appear and the lower your sexual value.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 04:58 PM
2

I never said you were having sex with every guy. We’re not talking about you specifically lol. Our lizard brains do not know about condoms.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 04:40 PM
-1

Sex is not easy to get from mans perspective. If a women has sex with every guy (which they could) it devalues it. Men would love to have unlimited sex with unlimited partners. That is not feasible unless your name was Genghis Kahn. So they have to compromise. If they are higher value, a compromise might be a harem. If they are low value a bigger compromise would be one women. If they are Incel...onlyfans. If they are already compromising they do not want to feel like every man in their city has…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 03:54 PM
1

Ok and what’s the next step. Allow children to have underage sex because they are capable of making these adult decisions? Fine. If you want to explain your view point to an adult who is depressed because they were allowed/celebrated for transitioning as a child, but now view it as a mistake....that’s on you. Anyway that’s enough debating. Is clear we have different views.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/20 01:06 PM
1

Nope I don’t mean ‘transgender folk’. If you read it agin you’ll notice I said ‘children’. I disagree. I think many children do it without any idea of the consequences as has been widely discussed in the media I never commented on gender dysphoria in adults. Yes, my personal belief is we have an innate masculinity which separates us from women and should be recognised, discussed and celebrated.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/20 12:39 PM
1

The fact that you celebrate it is the very reason most children are getting sex changes and men are dancing in dresses on the tv...because they want attention and to feel special from people like you. At the end of the day it’s one big experiment that will either work or it won’t. I’m not here to tell anyone how to live their lives, I just feel personally it’s very ignorant to encourage such behaviour in light of what we know about male and female attraction on average.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/20 12:15 PM
3

Depends on the context and reason. If you’re being kind because you need to be liked or appear virtuous, that’s weakness. If you’re being kind in a situation that is difficult to be kind, that’s courage.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/20 12:06 PM
1

Because...even if it was 100% socially acceptable...It does not sound like you’d be content if zero men chose to do it. What I believe you actually want is to convince men to chose it, not to give them the freedom. Otherwise you would celebrate the men who chose not to just as much.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/20 09:07 AM
1

Well, it’s seems pretty obvious you are biased towards a society with house husbands is the norm, not where people make their own choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/20 08:18 AM
1

Yes I know. It had no relevance to the debate I was having at the time because no one was saying all behaviours are purely biological. Dumbass.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/20 09:15 PM
1

Yes that’s cool. I appreciate hearing your views)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/20 08:51 PM
1

Ah noo...I was replying to someone else then the thread got mixed up. Sorry that wouldn’t have made sense to you. It was some other girl above
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/20 08:49 PM
1

I prefer you to address the argument. I think you are better at deflecting though.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/20 08:30 PM
2

It’s been working out great don’t worry.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/20 08:28 PM
1

You did. You said biology is bullshit explanation.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/20 08:11 PM
1

I don’t mind looking and I am all for scientific inquiry but... Men want to bang hot chicks. This is observable reality in the current state of the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/20 08:08 PM
2

Why exactly is it for the best?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/20 08:03 PM
1

So it’s society that makes me horny when I see a hot girl?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/20 07:37 PM
1

Right, fair enough. Yes, I’m not a biologist and I get it would be annoying to see people use language sloppily if you are one. I think you get the point I’m trying to make even if my language is not scientifically correct. The main point is we are in a world where the majority of men are attracted to female physical traits not social status. Whatever you think is responsible for that, it does not seem to be something that will change soon or is under any pressure to.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/20 07:24 PM
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Younger. The girls around me seemed to prefer older guys when I was growing up. So I intend to take full advantage of that as I get older.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/20 06:37 PM
1

Agree, like a lot of things it does depend on definitions. Yes I do appreciate what you’re saying; that our brains are malleable and perhaps we misinterpret natural instinct for something that in reality has been nurtured. Firstly, I’m not sure what kind of global, systematic conditioning would be hypothetically necessarily...but every guy I know was being attracted to female bodies at a very young age...way before any kind of sex education. And even if it was true...so what...it’s not the world…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/20 06:33 PM
1

I don’t consider myself any kind of ‘piller’. I have no problem being proven wrong. However I don’t see anything controversial or ‘narrow’ about what I said. We can change the way we are socialised but you cannot change our biology in one generation.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/20 06:25 PM
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I do hear you and I agree we are more equal than ever economically speaking. I’m just saying it’s irrelevant in the formula of attraction. You cannot undo thousands of years of evolution of the brain in one generation. Right? A women’s career and status does not get a dick hard. Looks is the only thing that will. A mans career and status could make wap. I’m not saying looks don’t play a big role for a man, however they’re not the only factor in attracting a female. For women that’s all it is at …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/20 04:47 PM
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It stems from the idea that women can only love a man conditionally. At least that’s my interpretation.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/20 04:39 PM
8

So the women who is attracted to high status, rich men that dress like shit should suddenly demand he improve his wardrobe? Every relationship has a different power dynamic. Men and women do not value the same things.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/20 03:59 PM
2

I always like to think there is awareness of knowledge and there is the practice that it leads to. I can use my awareness of biology and nutrition to sculpt a god-like build, or I can complain how bad my metabolism is whilst getting fat. If I am born with a god-like body, I will probably never care to seek this knowledge. So no, I don’t believe most female supermodels or chads care less about feminism or red/black pill. Until it effects them directly. My biggest concern is the black pill philoso…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/20 01:42 PM
2

Most men must live a life of purpose and discipline before they have access to the life of pleasure they would be satisfied with.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/20 08:27 AM
1

Lol. You can be whatever object you like. This however is a metaphor
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/20 09:58 PM
1

Ah sorry I think I misunderstood. Don’t worry
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/20 09:55 PM
5

‘Who benefits’ is a complicated question and it completely depends on the ‘quality’ of the man and what the alternative society would look like without marriage. Was marriage not ‘designed’ to ensure the man will stay around long enough to father the child and protect the women during birth? So for example, if an ‘alpha’ man is allowed to go around screwing and impregnating all the best women without the requirement of marriage (ie being liable for her and his child) then introducing marriage is…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/20 09:53 PM
2

No need to make it personal
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/20 09:25 PM
0

Why buy the cow if the milk is free.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/20 09:16 PM
3

It’s a good point. I guess men’s evolved instinct has not caught up to the fact that they may be having sex with the same partner for a long time.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/20 09:13 PM
1

What do ‘they’ do? It depends who ‘they’ are and what options are available to them. Looks fade. All men appreciate looks. Some men get a mistress with their wives consent. Some couples try swinging. Some men will cheat. Women often are less attracted to their man if he looses his job or status. I don’t see what the difference is. Tbh the older I get the more I appreciate a younger firmer body.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/20 07:29 PM
1

To bust a nut.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/20 09:36 AM
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