nonameboredman Archive

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3	Are women capable of genuine romantic love, or do they just want sex and resources. women Are we talking about whole 4 billion of them?	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/01/23 11:13 PM
1	When does dating market decline for men? they don't have access to 24 hour gyms and beauty tweaks to keep them young. so they age terrible. Agreed, that's why I guessed the other person could be from a blue collar/rural community. In such communities it might make sense to want a younger woman since it's a high probability they'll age fast and not very well due to the life style. Then again, if she'll become in a few years what you didn't want now, what's the point in chasing a younger woman? I think what I'm trying to say is most wome…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/01/23 10:27 PM
2	When does dating market decline for men? That's a big "if" but... I agree with you IF the woman keeps fit. I understand what you mean and agree but I think there's a critical point to consider. If a man is with one of those "big if" women (who don't keep fit), he's already done for because in just a few years she'll lose all she had to offer in terms of physique. So this is a bit like a paradox you know. Like what's the point of wanting a younger woman if just in a few years she'll be what you didn't want in the first place anyway? I'm…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/01/23 10:17 PM
1	When does dating market decline for men? Do you live in East Asia or something? Nope, lived in a few big cities in the west, typical white collar life. Still do. At this point I'm thinking you're looking at 18 year olds and thinking they're 23. Even without the makeup 23-24 is the same as 30-31, especially if the woman is petite. I think women converge from 18 to around 23 (all the college partying, alcohol and whatnot). If they're keeping fit and healthy they stay there for 7-8 years. The only way you could tell a healthy woman's age …	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/01/23 09:25 PM
3	When does dating market decline for men? Sounds like you've ended up in very unlucky places or mainly live in a blue collar kind of community. In my circles (white collar professionals and the likes) you can't tell a 23 year old from a 30 year old (given she's never had kids and not let herself go). Again, I don't mean all these 30 somethings look so young, but both these 20 somethings and 30 somethings look no different. I don't know what number to give it but let's say they all look 25. I can absolutely tell the difference even fro…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/01/23 09:04 PM
0	Here is why traditional women/wives are becoming more and more rare Traditional roles is a huge risk for a woman. When it works out, everyone is happy. Very eye opening. Thanks. Bank robbery is a huge risk for a woman. When it works out, everyone is happy. Equally eye opening. Thanks again.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/01/23 07:36 PM
3	When does dating market decline for men? women's prime is from about 20-26 This I never get. I'm over here asking have you guys ever seen a 20-26 year old vs 26-30 year old vs 30-35 year old woman? Given they've not given up and not had kids, they're all the same... Just to be clear, I'm not saying 30-35 year olds look young, I'm saying 20-26 year olds already look so much like 30-35 year olds. Well I'd personally say 23-26 because 20-23 range can still be visibly younger. But show me any woman with enough self-respect to keep fit from…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/01/23 07:30 PM
5	When does dating market decline for men? My dad who was in the dating pool 30-35 years ago fully agrees with this.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/01/23 07:14 PM
1	You must pick one Yeah that's all fair. If she genuinely wants to and actively makes an effort to make time to look good but sometimes just can't because of kids etc. then I'd 100% respect that and I'd go out of my way to help her as much as I could. For example I'd keep the kids busy (play with them etc.) after work so she can have some time to relax and take care of herself. Cooking and cleaning, as I said, I'd just buy a service for. But letting go is something else and I'd definitely get a divorce if she let …	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/01/23 02:15 PM
1	Alpha widow ? We're discussing mental illness again, nice. Any man or woman who compares their current partner(s) to the previous ones is flat out sick in the head. I'm not saying one wouldn't ever spent some milliseconds doing that subconsciously and it's forgotten before it's even remembered, but if it's big enough to go on the conscious level, and even bigger to surface all the way to the top at the behavior level, one would be pretty sick and unfit for any healthy attempts of being in a relationship. Do…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/01/23 08:28 PM
1	You must pick one There's a bit of a misunderstanding here. I'm 100% okay with funding it, it's not an issue. The issue would be her feeling like looking her best is an assignment. I don't feel like it's a chore when I'm working out or grooming. I feel very positive and motivated because why would I not want to look my best?	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/01/23 07:13 PM
1	The long and short of it is as a man you need to be attractive and high value and if you refuse to do that or simply can’t then unfortunately life is unfair and you will miss out You're welcome to conduct a study on the percentage of men and women who are interested in a long-term relationship and/or marriage with a psychopath. Do send me the results, I'd be curious to know.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/01/23 06:31 PM
3	The long and short of it is as a man you need to be attractive and high value and if you refuse to do that or simply can’t then unfortunately life is unfair and you will miss out We're discussing relationships here, not business.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/01/23 06:23 PM
4	The long and short of it is as a man you need to be attractive and high value and if you refuse to do that or simply can’t then unfortunately life is unfair and you will miss out Exactly. He could be shooting 9/10s the whole time thinking they were 7s. This thing is nothing but market dynamics, economics 101 really. Both the man's and the woman's job is to first maximize their SMV (better job, better income, better character, better culture, better physique) then correctly identify your SMV to find a fitting partner by initially shooting up as high as you want but then balancing by gradually lowering your standards till you hit the jackpot. Which is easier said than done…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/01/23 05:53 PM
2	The long and short of it is as a man you need to be attractive and high value and if you refuse to do that or simply can’t then unfortunately life is unfair and you will miss out worked your ass off in the gym, groomed yourself, dressed yourself, socialised the hell out of yourself, gotten to a place of as high a confidence and character and charm as you realistically can, If after this, you find that nobody finds you attractive Then it's one (or more) of the below: Your character hasn't developed as much as you thought. Meaning that you might be acting douchey, silly, boring, creepy. This one has nothing to do with your appearance. While you have significantly improved …	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/01/23 05:20 PM
1	Does growing wealth inequality reinforce hypergamy in the West? Will the scenario “poor attractive woman marrying rich unattractive man” happen again? Makes sense. I'd really want to get a prenup but thinking about having that talk with her in the first place, and also that I even feel the need to get a prenup is making my head hurt. And even then, it'd technically not be 100% foolproof as you said. A few of my friends have already gotten divorced and their wives were in the same class (I guess upper-middle class), they didn't hurt too bad, although there was certainly assets and money lost. Then I've seen some of my upper class relatives divo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/01/23 04:16 PM
1	Does growing wealth inequality reinforce hypergamy in the West? Will the scenario “poor attractive woman marrying rich unattractive man” happen again? what "legal danger" are you even talking about? I probably make at least 50-70% more than a middle class woman and when that's the case in a divorce lawsuit, the law (and likely the woman) will look to fuck me over pretty good with alimony and whatnot. But when the woman herself is making closer to what I make, although I'll still get fucked, it'll most likely be considerably less both because we're closer in status in the eyes of the law and the chances of an upper class woman looking to milk m…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/01/23 03:46 PM
1	You must pick one men have no concept of the cost of a lot of these things for women Were you referring to house keeping costs or hair/skin care costs? 5k/year isn't a big deal to me. And if you were referring to house keeping costs, I already pay much more than 5k/year for cooking and cleaning services. So I believe I do have a concept of these things. And I'll still say "Doesn't put much effort into her appearance" is 100% unforgivable in my book. It would only be forgivable when I let myself go (which is never…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/01/23 03:37 PM
2	Does growing wealth inequality reinforce hypergamy in the West? Will the scenario “poor attractive woman marrying rich unattractive man” happen again? STEM professional here. I would probably not marry a middle class woman as we would tend to share very little in life goals and I, as a man, would be in a greater legal danger should the marriage end.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/01/23 12:59 AM
1	You must pick one This question is like asking "10 lions vs 10000000000000000 ants who would win?" "Lazy around the house" would bug me for sure but her other qualities make up for it and lucky for us I'm wealthy enough to hire house keeping services regularly so we would survive that. "Doesn't put much effort into her appearance" is unforgivable. I'm a busy man but I still hit the gym, groom like a maniac, watch what's on my face etc. "Not obese" is not enough. She must have a healthy BMI because I myself do. Sh…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/01/23 12:44 AM
23	Women Are Significantly More Likely To Lose Interest In Sex In Long Time Relationships In Spite Of Age, Relationship Satisfaction, Sexual Satisfaction, and Child Rearing Status. I love how people write whole articles on very well-known things. Like 10 whole paragraphs on "Young men are found to buy expensive sports cars once they get rich". iNf0rMaTi0nNn	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/01/23 12:34 AM
1	Men actually do have high standards for LTR I struggled for HOURS to put a cat tower together Mechanics take a whole car apart and put it back together. I doubt majority of mechanics are pushing 3sigma IQs... Jokes aside, the second half of your paragraph, which is basically implying your interest in high IQ men, is all fair. Just stop degrading yourself and try to improve yourself. If you're lazy to figure out how, look back at my previous response to you for a rough roadmap. Is that why they left me? Nobody can tell, could be anything…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/23 08:49 PM
1	What do you think is the best way to deal with shit tests that are coming from women? best way to deal with shit tests I simply thank them for their time and wish them good fortune.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/23 01:49 PM
3	A growing number of women these days act like actual incels Getting spammed mental illness at 6 in the morning is the modest price you pay for having a fwb partner, can't complain now can you.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/23 01:43 PM
1	Men actually do have high standards for LTR This is like a man saying he's screwed because he's not 6ft tall. 107 is in the first standard deviation of both adult women and men so the majority of your dating pool is not that different than you in terms of intelligence. So chin up. Why should "straight" (as in heterosexual?) be an issue? No femininity and autistic could be improved quite considerably. I keep reading red pill women talk about these and although I genuinely think they're pretty crazy, you could indeed get some tips on improv…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/23 01:31 PM
1	Men actually do have high standards for LTR I think you have to restrict yourself to activities and social settings that pretty much filter for higher class and iq and involve technicality. Yeah that's what I'm doing. I'm not actively looking at this point, the pool is a tiny little pond for me. Although I should say I'm not looking for just one particular type of intelligence, I mean it doesn't have to be analytical intelligence. It could be any one of the types of intelligence that make people exceptional in art, sports, science, or str…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/23 01:17 PM
3	Men actually do have high standards for LTR but these women barely exist Exactly why I struggle finding a woman that I'm interested in... Whenever I'm on Hinge or interacting with women offline, they are all just the same. "I like travelling and food!", "Are you a dog/cat person because", "I like humor!" (while she doesn't even know any of the famous comedians and she has a very bland sense of humor herself) essentially is a necessity if you are high iq I'm around 131-135 by Mensa and I don't want my kids to be slower than myself... Bes…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/23 09:59 AM
1	Men actually do have high standards for LTR No because it's not like everybody has taken a proper Mensa test. I get a good feel of people's cognitive abilities by the questions they ask about a subject they know absolutely nothing about, and also how they analyze situations, subjects etc. So when I'm dating a woman, I have a pretty good idea about how genetically intelligent she is by the third date.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/23 09:53 AM
0	How are there enough high value men for all of the women who feel entitled to them? Or it was before all this don't settle bullshit came knocking. Mate in your league and everybody will be happy with their profit optimized.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/23 11:25 PM
3	How are there enough high value men for all of the women who feel entitled to them? Elementary school math... I can't believe we're discussing these things.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/23 11:17 PM
4	Newbie Question: Why did Pick Up Artistry become more right wing? With all due respect, I won't try to respond to the rest of what you wrote because I don't think you're trying to discuss the point here so it won't be worthwhile. However you make a good point at the end: Fantastic that makes u an exception in the majority of conservative dudes absolutely obsessed with who, what and why women are boning. I'm sure you're referring to "body count", in which case no I am not an exception. I do also prefer partners with lower "body count" (I feel like a 14 year o…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/23 11:15 PM
9	How are there enough high value men for all of the women who feel entitled to them? It's balancing, not settling. And balancing is exactly how any natural mating works in the nature. All parties (both man and women) can naturally choose to start with arbitrarily high standards, which is all natural. If any party (man or woman) hasn't been able to find a fitting partner with their current standards, that means they have overvalued themselves and must therefore balance their standards and repeat until a fitting partner is found. Balancing is not a bad thing, it is the right thing…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/23 11:04 PM
6	Men don't value commitment as much of women because experience with women, not fear Lazy writing on my part, I meant divorce laws while referring to how they are usually harsher on men than women. Alimony yada yada.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/23 10:59 PM
6	Newbie Question: Why did Pick Up Artistry become more right wing? thing women for only sex is as much an ApReCiAtive activity as much as it is to use men for their money. Using men only for their money would also simply not indicate or necessitate hatred of men. Same as in the scenario where a man only wants sex from women, a woman only wanting money from men would only tell you that the person has a very transactional relationship with the opposite sex. You need to understand that you can't automatically start asking for more (like appreciation) just because …	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/23 10:53 PM
13	Newbie Question: Why did Pick Up Artistry become more right wing? See? Exactly what I'm talking about. So your indirect statement is that if a man only wants to have sex with women, that's a misogynist (hating women) behavior. Truth is, sex is natural, men like women, and men like having sex with women. This doesn't show anything about a man's hatred for women. It is absolutely insane to suggest that a highly pleasuring activity with the opposite sex indicates anything at all about the hatred of the opposite sex. To be admired, inspiring, accepted as lead, tea…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/23 10:37 PM
9	Men don't value commitment as much of women because experience with women, not fear You took a very general and a very real concept and stuffed it into a tiny subject that is about men trusting women. If you're a well functioning adult, regardless of your gender, you should know not to trust anyone fully. You could give your parents and good friends pretty high marks like over 95% perhaps, but you should know to never give anyone 100%. Not even yourself. Ask yourself why you put money into your retirement savings? That's because you don't trust yourself to still hold a good ste…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/23 10:21 PM
4	The reality is that a lot of women know how to avoid and recognize toxic men, but a lot of men cannot tell a healthy woman from a toxic one. "Toxicity" is a made-up term with flabby and stretchable definition. Nope. "Toxicity" is a kick-ass System of a Down song.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/23 10:14 PM
10	Newbie Question: Why did Pick Up Artistry become more right wing? It happened because feminism found its playing ground on the left. Below is the breakdown of what happened: Feminism = Hatred of men (Feminists need not respond, I won't argue this) Right wing = Traditional, traditional men like being men as much as they like women What do men who like women do? They pick up women. What to do if I wanna go all in with picking up women? I master the technique and become a pick up artist. So if I do that, where do I likely place myself in the political spectrum? R…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/23 10:09 PM
0	Men actually do have high standards for LTR Well I personally even have an IQ standard (>125) lol so that'd be true.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/23 10:03 PM
2	You’d be pretty guarded and picky too if everyone from the opposite sex who approached you was trying to penetrate you This level of mental illness...	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/23 10:01 PM
1	How are men supposed to meet women these days? Social events, sports clubs, through friends, hobbies if it's a social one, social media, online dating. Bars/clubs/pubs might work too but I'd say the quality of interaction (or the woman) is usually low. One that always boggles me is when people suggest "restaurants". How the hell do you even meet a woman in a restaurant? As a man, if I'm a restaurant, it's pretty clear that I don't wanna talk but just sit and eat. Just... how?	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/23 09:53 PM
2	Creeps and a-holes keep hitting on women because sometimes they get results. A guy who's respectful will be seen as boring or not even noticed. Explain that one. Pretty common situation but sure partner. To her, at least, I was an "asshole" who was "hitting on" her friend, Nope. To her, you were an asshole who was hitting on her friend and NOT her. So she got jealous. Not in the way that she'd had feelings for you yada yada. Just that as a man you clearly showed that you find her friend more attractive than herself; and for whatever reason you didn't even consider her (your friend) for sex while you did openly consider her friend. You…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/23 09:48 PM
1	Your past matters, but it isn't just who you have screwed. Yeah man, it blew up in demand (understandably) and it got bettered over the years. Just like hair transplant surgery, it keeps getting better and cheaper. Pretty viable option for men who can afford it. You're right though, adding 5-6+ inches to just your legs makes you look funny. Gotta limit it at 3 inches, maybe 4.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/23 11:46 AM
2	Your past matters, but it isn't just who you have screwed. They're able to add 3 to 4 inches at a time and one's able to get it twice it seems. Your leg's not gonna snap during regular training which is enough to keep fit and healthy. If you're pushing 4-6 inches then yeah your proportions couldn't probably keep up but if you're adding 3 or 4 inches you'll still look proportionate. So a 5ft4 guy could push 5ft7-5ft8. If he's fit and handsome and wealthy, he'd now be in a proper league. So it doesn't seem straight up retarded for those who can afford it …	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/23 08:16 AM
3	What do men actually find attractive in a woman's personality? I like dropping random little factoids into conversations relating to things I know about, so it'd be kinda fun if my partner could too, from her catalogue of knowledge that I'm less familiar with. 100% agree. I do this too and love it when the woman also does it. This I believe is one of the special ways partners can connect on a more meaningful level.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/01/23 09:18 PM
3	Your past matters, but it isn't just who you have screwed. Dating such a woman would be quite painful though. As I'm reading your post, all I can think of is the "are you a dog/cat person because" girl on Hinge (one of many millions). Just the thought alone bores me to death really...	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/01/23 09:07 PM
5	Your past matters, but it isn't just who you have screwed. Heightflation. Jokes aside, there already is a quite successful but equally expensive limb lengthening surgery which I expect to get even better and more affordable in years to come. Nobody can say poor men will have an opportunity to be taller but men who are well off already do and will have such an opportunity. Again, I wouldn't do this for a couple inches because women can't tell and it's just silly. A guy going from 5ft6 to 5ft10 is doing it big time though and it would drastically improve …	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/01/23 09:03 PM
13	Your past matters, but it isn't just who you have screwed. If the game is dirty you gotta play dirty. I don't understand why any man in the 5ft10 - 6ft range willing to be with women 5ft7 or shorter don't just say they're 6ft. There's absolutely no way she could tell. Of course the question is if the man should really be interested in such a shallow partner in the first place. Before I get bombarded by feminists, let me clarify: Between the same version of a man, one's 6ft and one's 5ft5, of course a woman could feel a considerably different level of at…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/01/23 01:09 PM
20	Your past matters, but it isn't just who you have screwed. 50% of women don't want to date 5'11'' men. 50% of women couldn't tell if a man's 5ft11 or 6ft.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/01/23 12:44 PM
0	Stepdadism I challenge you to find a stepdad more objectively physically attractive than the babydaddy I can find you a stepdaddy more physically attractive than the babydaddy. It's really only a matter of how particularly shitty the woman in question is.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/01/23 12:42 PM
0	Only 20% of men are Sexless All of the above	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/01/23 12:39 PM
0	What do men actually find attractive in a woman's personality? do they not really care at all as long as the woman is attractive and a decent person on an elementary level? I do care so much actually. I have like a baseline level for physical attraction rather than a spectrum so in my eyes a woman can't be "more attractive", but only "attractive". It's binary in my judgement, to me you are either attractive or unattractive and once you're above that threshold the actual level of your attraction has no added meaning to me. Which means that I won't excuse you…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/01/23 12:32 PM
2	Bumble, Tinder, Hinge & dating apps are destroying America another tried to convince me mermaids were real. It's pathetic that you even need convincing. They're everywhere, you just gotta open your eyes.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/01/23 04:48 AM
3	A 2015 study suggests men care more about the socioeconomic status of mates than women do. 97th n reporting in. I'm a man, I do agree with the study's conclusions, and I want my 79 year old sugarmommy.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/01/23 03:28 AM
1	How would you like someone to show interest in you? What would help you feel appreciated vs used? Well looks like not only is he generous but also notably wealthy. This is probably why they said you'd be using him. I guess if you were a gold digger you'd ask him to ubereats you guys some large pizza instead of getting up and cooking while super drunk. So I still don't think you're using him. Although I must say now I better understand why you're giving him that playground (allowing sex with another woman). All fair.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/01/23 03:23 AM
1	How would you like someone to show interest in you? What would help you feel appreciated vs used? Sexual compatibility is a real thing and relationships often suffer if there are compatibility issues. That includes things like severely mismatching sex drives between partners, not liking similar sexual activities etc. Alignment on this as soon as possible would be in everyone's interest. (This was about the wasting his time bit.) About you using him, like I said, doesn't look like you could even be in a position where you could use him even if you wanted to. But he could be indeed in such a p…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/01/23 03:12 AM
1	How would you like someone to show interest in you? What would help you feel appreciated vs used? It’s not that I’m not attracted, I definitely am: I just need a more time to get comfortable with him as a person if I’m going to be that vulnerable with him. You say you're kissing deeply and have your pretty passionate cuddle sessions, so unless he ever told you otherwise, he should be seeing you're attracted to him (which is what men want, to be with a woman who's attracted to us). I'd say that should be enough for now to make him feel appreciated to say the least. Reading your post again tho…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/01/23 12:00 AM
1	The paradox of confidence and why confidence can be an equally bad trait for women to look for in a man You even have the big red stripe saying you're a guy... How did I even miss that...	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/23 11:53 PM
1	How would you like someone to show interest in you? What would help you feel appreciated vs used? what if tomorrow is the day he gets fed up and thinks I’m using him? Fear not. Any sane man would at least give you signals. In fact, we men rather just say it directly than giving signals. So in my opinion the worst that could happen is just he straight up asks you what exactly you two are doing. I feel like you'd have a nice explanation to it so I think you don't need to worry. You say sex is not an option, and later in your post you say it's a sex issue. Makes me think that there are valid an…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/23 11:49 PM
1	The paradox of confidence and why confidence can be an equally bad trait for women to look for in a man I did you bad partner, my apologies haha.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/23 11:26 PM
1	How difficult is it to date after college? Particularly if college dating was not great for you. Man's experience below: Gets a bit tricky. Workplace dating is risky and unprofessional, although many do it. What helps after college is you have more money that you can and should use for socializing in broad settings. Concerts, events, groups and whatnot. Still, at least for me, I think dating got better after college. It's just that you gotta take initiative now since nobody will force you into a classroom with 20 single girls for hours anymore.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/23 11:25 PM
1	The role of men in modern society and how much they actually contribute to women's lives... Question to the men: What role do you think you have in a relationship? How do you enrich your wife's life? The answer will be about my future wife as I'm currently unmarried. Giving my background so my answer makes more sense: Early 30s man making six figures in a very strong career (I'm usually the "superstar" of whatever team I'm on). I haven't met a woman in my dating pool (drawn by age, demographics etc.) that makes more than 70% of my annual income. So, while the women in my dating pool wo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/23 11:19 PM
1	The paradox of confidence and why confidence can be an equally bad trait for women to look for in a man I completely agree with the first three paragraphs. In fact, you'd see that I keep advising men to continually improve themselves: Better job, better income, better manners, better culture, better physique. Have a look at my very short post on this below: https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/10kht7z/women_are_not_judged_by_society_for_living_with/j5qt3gu/?context=3 It sets a standard of “okay if the 25yr old dude who doesn’t clean his room has confidence, imagine the other ones” …	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/23 10:56 PM
4	Creeps and a-holes keep hitting on women because sometimes they get results. A guy who's respectful will be seen as boring or not even noticed. Gotcha, fair point. I'd still say the same though. The element of "flirtyness(?)" is I believe doesn't have a direct connection to one's style of communication. You could be a loud asshole (god how I hate the type) or a polite gentleman while still having the same level of "flirtyness(???)" in your contact with the woman. Now if you say "hey I see often that when both of these two types of men are truly flirting with equal success in the act, women respond better to the loud asshole. what gives?…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/23 10:48 PM
8	There's now a mens version of are we dating the same guy, What do you think about this? Fair in the way that it's equally unfair. Society is starting to feel like a gigantic kindergarten. I'm a man and I find both versions of these things to be horrible.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/23 10:42 PM
1	How would you like someone to show interest in you? What would help you feel appreciated vs used? how can someone show that they are interested if sex can’t be an option yet? Is kissing allowed? It happened a few times that right in the middle of my sentence she'd just kiss me. I could burn the whole world for that feeling. That's probably my favorite. But if we're talking strictly no physical, I love it when she's following along with me when the sexual tension in the discussion is so thick that you can feel it on your skin. It'd just be us talking, well at least in the first four dimension…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/23 10:41 PM
0	Living apart together....commitment without cohabitation....is it the wave of the future? More and more older and divorced people are choosing to live apart, even in long term, committed relationships This reads like more and more people go to the moon without going to the moon. Sometimes this divisive feminist babbling is so utterly ridiculous that it truly challenges the limits of reality. I can't believe we're all posting on this. I feel stupid.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/23 10:28 PM
-1	Everyone blames the men in age gap relationships, but women keep participating in them. Feminists are quite upset about some men having the ability to find younger than expected partners because this, although very locally, creates a virtual increase in supply (women), leading to relationships and, you guessed it, happy men and women. What do feminists hate? Happy men and women. So it all computes.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/23 10:24 PM
1	The paradox of confidence and why confidence can be an equally bad trait for women to look for in a man Moderation is best. Looks like we're discussing two-three standard deviations to either side of the median, and of course we end up talking about extremes which don't make much sense. People must be reasonably confident. Too much of it is pride, and too little of it is crippling. Since it is obvious that "the paradox of confidence" has all to do with one's inner and personal balance which would be one's very own fight and absolutely nobody else's, I fail to see how men's confidence issues could …	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/23 10:21 PM
2	Creeps and a-holes keep hitting on women because sometimes they get results. A guy who's respectful will be seen as boring or not even noticed. Man here. This is the classical "nice guy" argument. The mistake here is that, being an "a-hole" is thought of to be inseparable from the act of "hitting on women". So the assumption is a "respectful" man would never "hit on a woman". This assumption is wrong. There's no link between being an a-hole/respectful and flirting with women. The "respectful" man in question is one that is obviously not trying to flirt with the woman so she's not taking any interest in him. It's simple guys; no flirting…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/23 10:13 PM
0	No, women have not "left men behind and upped their standards", they have left themselves behind and there are few worthwhile modern day women to date long-term Eh, this is one of those times where a discussion would feel like trying to convince a flat earther the world is not flat. I must say though that your combination of hatred and ignorance is quite similar to say an ISIS militant in the way that it could easily be weaponized. Actually, it already is weaponized considering what's been happening to society as a consequent of feminism and the unnecessary conflict, in which you appear to quite happily take a part, between both sexes. What can I say? I…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/23 10:03 PM
1	No, women have not "left men behind and upped their standards", they have left themselves behind and there are few worthwhile modern day women to date long-term Here we go...	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/23 04:09 PM
-1	How will society change in reaction to more and more women becoming single mothers by choice? How is this going to affect society? The same way all the other poison spread by feminism has already been doing it, it will work to destroy society. The west already relies on immigration to keep the gears turning due to aging population and declining birth rates. It simply is harming the western society. In this article, the doctor states : What the doctor states simply isn't true. I can't believe this came from a doctor (a science practitioner). Men and women have evolved to be together bec…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/23 10:48 AM
1	No, women have not "left men behind and upped their standards", they have left themselves behind and there are few worthwhile modern day women to date long-term You're on point and I'm definitely not missing that part. I'm saying exactly the same thing here: https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/10kdzq9/comment/j5qdopu/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3 I keep saying it, starting with high standards is absolutely fine, it's a free market and a free world after all. But if a woman hasn't been able to find a good partner with her current standards, that means she has overvalued herself in the market and the most profitable scenari…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/23 10:29 AM
-1	No, women have not "left men behind and upped their standards", they have left themselves behind and there are few worthwhile modern day women to date long-term If you are single you aren't getting sex. Do you live in the west? This isn't true in the west. I don't think I need to explain this one. See, not a very fruitful discussion. Thanks and you take care too.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/23 03:09 AM
8	No, women have not "left men behind and upped their standards", they have left themselves behind and there are few worthwhile modern day women to date long-term Nobody should read this for free. Send me $50 and I will.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/23 02:56 AM
0	No, women have not "left men behind and upped their standards", they have left themselves behind and there are few worthwhile modern day women to date long-term Too many misconceptions for me to address in your post but I'll do the below: Incel (involuntary celibate) doesn't mean single, it means sexless (and quite possibly single). So you're confusing things. And the west isn't destroyed - yet. It's in motion, started in the 70s with feminism so it's been half a century now. It doesn't serve much purpose when one's oblivious to an issue they're trying to discuss so I'll leave it here.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/23 02:54 AM
5	No, women have not "left men behind and upped their standards", they have left themselves behind and there are few worthwhile modern day women to date long-term Well if we go down this rabbit hole we would be talking about percentages that don't even exist let alone can be measured, so it wouldn't be a very fruitful discussion. I keep using the same 80-20 to refer to the current mate selection criteria women have adopted through the TV and social media. if that's the case at least 50% of feminists aren't getting any. Yes, and if that's the case then the plan (destroying the west's social foundations through feminism) is working. Looking at the increas…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/23 02:01 AM
7	No, women have not "left men behind and upped their standards", they have left themselves behind and there are few worthwhile modern day women to date long-term Nothing wrong with having high standards. Absolutely, for both men and women. On women's part, what's harming society today is they lock onto a high standard and not lower (balance) it even if they fail to find a partner fitting those initially high standards (indicating an overvaluation of one's self in the sexual market). It's really a two step action to naturally correct this mess: start as high as you want, lower and balance if you're not finding a partner there. I mean basic math right? If …	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/23 01:43 AM
13	No, women have not "left men behind and upped their standards", they have left themselves behind and there are few worthwhile modern day women to date long-term Man here. I've posted here a few times that men should keep improving themselves because there's always room for improvement (better job/income, better manners, better culture, better physique). But I've also said the west is being subjected to a social engineering project essentially to tear its social foundations down so OP's point on The average man AND woman are both shitty dating prospects in the west. and Women's inability to objectively assess their dating value are correct and ve…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/23 12:43 AM
2	Study shows average age of conception throughout human history aligns with men having higher SMV later in life. The math is simple here. As a man, if you're able to double/triple your income in your early 30s compared to what you were making in your mid 20s, and also you at least keep your physical appearance (not get fat etc.), then your SMV should go up in your early 30s but not because that age had some specific number on it, but because you are now looking more or less the same while making more money. But if you're compromising your looks while making more money now, and/or having kids, chances are y…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/23 12:33 AM
1	Men in their 30+'s, what are the early signs you are just being "settled for/betabuxxed"? First of all, I wouldn't use the word "deserve". When you say "deserve", people will continue to fail to see what feminists have been marketing as "settling" truly is "balancing", and it's a good and natural thing. Look at all the angry and lonely men and women we ended up having because of this intended misunderstanding. My answer: Assuming all women and men in the dating pool certainly want to find a partner, then it would be natural to expect the top 20% of women would get partners from the t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/01/23 09:19 PM
1	Men in their 30+'s, what are the early signs you are just being "settled for/betabuxxed"? You won't like hearing this but both men and women are, and would always be, "settled for", regardless of the current sexual market dynamics. How? Sexual market is like any other considerably free, economic and capitalist market. So all the buyers are trying to get the best bang for their buck. All men are trying to get with the most attractive and complete woman they can, and all women are trying to get with the most attractive and complete man they can. Although both men and women will deny th…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/01/23 08:57 PM
1	Men: Would you rather be with a woman who has a relatively high N-count, or a woman who has an N-count of 1 (LTR), but he was an amazing sex partner? In merely asking a question and getting a response, your gender surely has no relevance but when I remember a man wasted his time asking a question that has nothing to do with men, and I would be wasting my time answering it, I feel so utterly stupid. I'll do myself a favor and pretend you are/were with a woman falling into one those two categories and you just want confirmation from other men. I'd choose the n=1 woman for two reasons: The high n count lady has higher chances of having met partn…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/01/23 08:32 PM
0	Men: Would you rather be with a woman who has a relatively high N-count, or a woman who has an N-count of 1 (LTR), but he was an amazing sex partner? I'd feel so stupid answering this question when in fact it is asked by a man. Why bother, partner?	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/01/23 07:26 PM
1	Liberal women are probably the most judgmental and demanding when it comes to wanting Alpha qualities in a man. A small incentive for men to make more money: You can actually get a bit taller in our times. There's a surgery for that works most of the time. There are also other cosmetic and successful remedies for men like hair transplant. These are all expensive procedures but if you're the man to make the money, you're the man who deserves all that he should find after these operations. It's nothing other than a man improving himself.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/01/23 04:18 PM
1	Liberal women are probably the most judgmental and demanding when it comes to wanting Alpha qualities in a man. The bottom half of that list could be achieved my most men. Only a small portion of very unfortunate men (poverty going back generations, being born in terrible places on earth etc.) will have genuine reasons why they can't be successful, ambitious, and fit (or "muscly"). So it is ridiculous to criticize women for seeking these in men. The top three aren't things a man can improve in himself. Still, it's ridiculous to criticize women for seeking some physical attributes they think the particular…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/01/23 04:14 PM
–	This is why women have become more choosy (from a woman’s perspective). I’d rather be single for the rest of my life than with a bare minimum man Everybody with self respect should have this attitude towards the opposite gender. What women are missing today is "bare minimum" isn't three standard deviations to the right. You can't all have your partners from the top 20% of the pool, only 20% of you can if there's a one-to-one matching. If women truly wanted to date/marry in (or about) their league, these silly pills wouldn't even exist.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/01/23 04:01 PM
–	This is why women have become more choosy (from a woman’s perspective). 30s man here. Ask yourselves “what do I bring to the table?” I'm all for this. A man or a woman must constantly be thinking of bettering themselves but for themselves and not for society. We both should always look to improve our perspectives, enlarge our knowledge, widen our thinking, be more cultured and courteous, strive to be physically and mentally healthy, be active and fit. We should also always look to improve our social skills, do our best to communicate better. I'd like emphasize tha…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/01/23 03:38 PM
2	Is is not really that bad if men and women stay single for lack of options I could only understand the gist of what you're meaning to say, which is clearly not driven by an idea but rather fueled by hurt and hate. Yours are things an enemy of the state would say. How so? Well, I'm telling you to look at the current situation in the west. Young men are too crippled to even work properly, let alone create families, which has been pushing the governments to bring in more and more immigrants, causing both the immigrants and locals quite the pain. It's gradually turning int…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/01/23 02:27 PM
2	People dont chose what they're attracted to People dont chose what they're attracted to This statement is true. We don't actively choose what we like. But, Ever heard of social engineering? That's what western societies have been subjected to. Over the last 30-40 years women are conditioned, through TV and (social) media, to subconsciously think that if a man isn't looking like an absolute movie star hand picked by agencies from the third standard deviation of men's population, they're not "attractive" but only "average". Now the madness …	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/01/23 10:53 AM
1	unpopular opinion: tinder is not easy for ugly women The men themselves were usually average on their good days You mean they were not looking like absolute movie stars hand picked by agencies from the third standard deviation of men's population as the film industry works on eye candy?	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/01/23 10:32 AM
1	I'm going to dismantle the blue pill in 8 sentences, and dismantle the red pill in 9. I will then give what I believe is the only valid approach to mutually fulfilling relationships. I want to help people I admire that thought but I doubt this is helping any men under 6ft. You're suggesting to stitch the wound before taking the bullet out. It's also our damned luck that the bullet is a hollow-point.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/01/23 02:27 AM
2	Men are an average of 70% of dating app users in the US and 85% in Europe, with women a small superminority in both Until there's an equal number of women trying to join the app, the app should put men on a loading screen telling them to go outside and meet women in real life.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/01/23 02:13 AM
2	I'm going to dismantle the blue pill in 8 sentences, and dismantle the red pill in 9. I will then give what I believe is the only valid approach to mutually fulfilling relationships. Eh maybe I'm too old for this but this whole idea reeks of "the game" and I'd dump any romantic partner who dared walk within ten miles of any such ideas. Regardless of the color, all these pills suck. This whole clown show is due to the ongoing social engineering project to take down the foundations of (mostly western) society. Both sexes have come here evolving together to naturally fit together and there's no need for any ideologies to explain anything. It's just that they fucked men up with …	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/01/23 02:09 AM
2	Height requirements is shallow, preferences are not So there is also always a possibility they love the person for their height and not who they really are They love the person for their height and who they really are. There's no harm in that because even if we all sat down holding hands repeating "I swear on all things I won't have any preferences or standards" day and night, our brains would still put preferences and standards for us. It's natural. What's not natural is how women got brainwashed by TV and social media to really think 80% of m…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/01/23 02:00 AM
1	Is romance dead? Romance is dead. Showcasing your romance on your social media isn't because in our sick modern society, relationships aren't for happiness but to attain some imagined social status created by lazy people who don't want to accomplish things by actively working but instead relying on their fathers' lucky shot into their mothers' wombs.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/01/23 01:50 AM
0	I'm going to dismantle the blue pill in 8 sentences, and dismantle the red pill in 9. I will then give what I believe is the only valid approach to mutually fulfilling relationships. The last paragraph is a cocktail of cancer and mental illness. All partnerships can be mutually fulfilling by finding a balance between kindness and cruelty. Sounds like an unsolicited "relationship advice" an almost-blacked-out-drunk 21 year old would give me at the bar.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/01/23 01:46 AM
1	Men who want to improve their dating lives need to drop the video games the reason I'm single and why so many men nowadays are lonely and single is because of the rise of technology that's keeping us locked away from talking with other people. Not really. Although I myself wouldn't be classified as a "gamer", I have male friends who play games quite often while holding successful careers. The reason you're single is you won't stop chasing hypergamy. Want not to be single? Easy, do this: Set your bar as high as you want, when you don't hit anything don't just sit and…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/01/23 01:40 AM
7	Is is not really that bad if men and women stay single for lack of options may use to a standard of men that most men don't fit Who would be that woman who's used to a significantly high standard of men that most men don't fit? Perhaps movie stars, daughters of diplomats and politicians, the female descendants of the global elite. If being bombarded with the photos of exceptionally good looking men on TV and social media makes you used to a certain standard, which clearly has nothing to do with you yourself, you're not being used to it, but ridiculous. Both men and wom…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/01/23 01:28 AM
3	Not only does the D.E.N.N.I.S. system work, it should be the ultimate blueprint for any man seeking to date women casually. This whole post reads mental illness. Good job partner.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/01/23 01:24 AM
1	I think there is unfair criticism towards unsuccessful daters. What basic human nature? You're literally giving me the "she wanted to have sex with me" as a fully grown man. The last time I saw that thing around was in middle school.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/01/23 10:34 PM
1	I think there is unfair criticism towards unsuccessful daters. What's the difference otherwise than something a 12 year old boy would brag about? Your dependence on affirmation is not very manly.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/01/23 10:25 PM
5	Are the gender dynamics/dating nowadays as bad as this sub makes it seem? "As a man you're either successful getting into these groups/niches or you're dead in the water." Or you're pushing 6 figures like any proper man should and having on demand sex with super sexy hookers. I absolutely can't understand why any man in the 21st century could end up sexless when a man could literally buy a woman.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/01/23 10:18 PM
1	I think there is unfair criticism towards unsuccessful daters. Funny how the wrong rulebook is being suggested to fellow men so frequently like in this post. Want casual sex? Do everything to look good. Or pick up the phone with a mindset and a financial status allowing you to spend 400 bucks for GUARANTEED casual sex with a very attractive woman. Young men need to realize what they need is not good looks, not "good game", not being 6 feet tall, but being rich. You don't have to be super rich, if you're pushing $150k annually you can get sex on demand. Inst…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/01/23 10:10 PM
1	Do women believe that men not approaching is a lack of interest? I'd guess most are, which is precisely why a single woman in her 30s and beyond has substantially lower SMV since their dating pool has lower value men. She said it herself that she's now giving the shy guy (indicating lowER value than ideally desired) a chance. A high value man, on average, marries a woman younger than himself. I'm a man, I know what we want, in my early 30s making six figures I'd only consider mid to late 20s women for marriage since I want kids.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/01/23 06:22 AM
-1	Do women believe that men not approaching is a lack of interest? I agree there are many really attractive women in their 30s, 40s, even 50s. And yes, the buyers change as the age goes up. The thing is though the buyers' first preference is 20 somethings. Then 30s, then 40s and so on. I think it would not help much debating the fact that women's attractiveness goes down as they age. I hate using the /10 analogy but a 30-40 year old woman could be an 8/10 at that age, meaning she's still really attractive. However, that means she was a 10 in her 20s so she now …	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/01/23 05:17 AM
1	Do women believe that men not approaching is a lack of interest? I'm sure she wouldn't take a random stranger's lecture even if I was trying to lecture her. I just wanted to say such strategy changes (being more direct etc.) in women past a certain age are necessitated by market dynamics and, although they seem to be, are not entirely freely made choices.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/01/23 05:03 AM
1	Do women believe that men not approaching is a lack of interest? The topic is about lasting relationships. I'm following what you're saying, which is about "getting laid", to which I gave an example of "milfs" to show you that the part of your SMV you're losing by aging is in the way that men will not consider you for reproductive goals. By all means, you could've "gotten laid" at least three dozen times by next week at your age if you wanted it. But that's not what we're discussing. Put simply, all I'm saying is chances of a "hot man" putting a child in you …	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/01/23 04:49 AM
-1	Do women believe that men not approaching is a lack of interest? Yes, what I'm saying is being forward certainly increases your chances. But I must disagree with your other point. Unless you were exceptionally attractive in your early to mid 20s and kept your physique in check over the years, making you less affected by aging, by market dynamics, your prospective mates must be lower value on average because higher value ones, the ones that were approaching you when you were 20 something, are still mostly doing the same thing and approaching 20 somethings as t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/01/23 04:45 AM
0	Do women believe that men not approaching is a lack of interest? You don't "have" to do anything, especially if you're a woman with super high SMV in your early to mid 20s. I'm merely remarking upon the fact that women's SMV start to drop considerably after late 20s/early 30s. And I believe your "greatest victories" aren't relevant in this context as OP is rather interested in romantic relationships and not mere sexual encounters. The main dynamic of the 80-20 is sexual encounters and as we all know, since there's only 20% of those men, meaning that only 20% …	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/01/23 04:34 AM
2	Do women believe that men not approaching is a lack of interest? Your results look good but they only indicate a rise in the demand you get from men because you were making it difficult for men to be attracted to you in your 20s by being unhappy, as you say it. So we can say you weren't doing yourself justice in your 20s and thus we can't say your SMV in your 20s was truly reflected. You fixed that issue now and you're expectedly getting more attention. But it has little to do with you being 30 now.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/01/23 01:55 AM
-6	Do women believe that men not approaching is a lack of interest? He made me realize I was worth more than what I'd been getting before that. Most women realize that way sooner, that's how 80-20 works. What's realized of course isn't that not only you are worth more, but majority of women are worth more because of the skewed market dynamics (high demand low supply). What I'm trying to say is, if you stopped initiating things now being a woman in your 30s, the average SMV of your prospective mates would be considerably lower than was in your 20s since men with …	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/01/23 01:52 AM
1	What is the equivalent of the 666 rule (6 feet, 6 figures, 6 pack) for women? Your examples are hardly common Come on now. Are you aware of the size of these cosmetic markets (hair transplantation, limb lengthening etc)? Are you saying men very rarely get these services? If you are, you are simply incorrect. I suggest you look it up, you'd be amazed how massive those markets are. The thing about these cosmetic services is that, really good ones are really expensive (not like Jeff Bezos expensive but you gotta be making 6 figures). Money is indeed everything.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/01/23 01:50 AM
3	What is the equivalent of the 666 rule (6 feet, 6 figures, 6 pack) for women? They can and do all the time (given they're sufficiently rich). Got hair loss? Go get expensive hair products and a quality hair transplant (they worked wonders on Elon Musk). Are you a few inches below 6 feet? Go get a limb lengthening surgery or two and get 6 feet or taller. Don't have a nice jaw line? Go get fillers and you're all set. Bad teeth? Go hire a quality dentist and get flawless teeth. You get the idea. But the real power of 6 figures is you don't even have to worry about any of tha…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/01/23 01:25 AM
-1	Do women believe that men not approaching is a lack of interest? I get more attention from men now that I'm in my 30s. Quite possibly, but it's not because: I'm more confident and more emotionally healthy/secure. But because you stopped (or rather had to stop) chasing the top 20% men in terms of looks (albeit broke) and exactly did the below Sometimes you gotta give a shy guy a little extra attention and it's worth it. Which you wouldn't have done so easily in your 20s since you believed you had a chance with the top 20%. Not judging you by any means, it's ju…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/01/23 12:49 AM
23	Do women believe that men not approaching is a lack of interest? I've become a lot more direct/forward in my 30s. Well, by market circumstances, you had to become a lot more direct due to reduced demand.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/01/23 12:21 AM
1	What is the equivalent of the 666 rule (6 feet, 6 figures, 6 pack) for women? The rule is 6, not 666. With 6 figures, you can literally buy the other two 6s (and literal 10s).	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/01/23 11:59 PM
1	Women look for traditional gender values in a man even when they claim otherwise I wonder when the modern man will stop being a slave to the vagina. "What women look for" is a pretty serious thing isn't it? As a man, you could concern yourself with that all day and night, wondering how you could change the very things that make you yourself, or if you are so desperate you could pick up the phone and be willing to pay 400 bucks for a fun hour. And if you think that's a lot of money then the problem isn't what women look for, but how much you make in a year.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/01/23 11:55 PM
1	Do you think mothers are confused as to why their now grown nice guy son has yet to find a partner? The men you're talking about surely exist, I'd call them losers too. But the 80-20 (or whatever the current numbers are) is very real. Google should find you some articles on that too. Basically, the 80-20 blew the understanding of "average" among women so hard that what women think should be the average man can absolutely not be truly average from an objective standpoint. And men are just as capable as women of prioritizing or de-prioritizing things in their lives. The inability of so many mo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/01/23 11:39 PM
2	Do you think mothers are confused as to why their now grown nice guy son has yet to find a partner? The hypothetical man's mom understands exactly what is going on and lives silently with the shame that her son would never be acceptable husband material in her generation. I don't think that's true because this hypothetical man is said to be: he’s handsome (soft face, kind eyes) and is respectful and polite. Doesn't sound like a "loser" to me honestly. Still, his mom can't understand what more he would need to fare well in today's dating world, which is because she's not aware of the 80-20.…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/01/23 10:54 PM
3	Do you think mothers are confused as to why their now grown nice guy son has yet to find a partner? I'm all for matching SMV as the main drive for creating relationships but in today's society where women's perception of what's "average" is overblown, the soft young woman living nearby will shoot for the top 20% of men because the media and the internet told her not to "settle down". All this whining (from both men and women) is because most people have no clue what game theory is. The reason this hypothetical man's mom fails to understand what's going on is because she wasn't mentally damaged…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/01/23 10:38 PM
2	Besides sex, do you even like women? I like women like myself but they're extremely rare so when you average it out it looks like I only like women for sex. And no, I don't waste my precious time on the "game" to find solely sexual partners; I buy them as it's cheaper and much more time efficient. Me: 30 something, fit with active life, IQ in the 98th percentile, making six figures, serious homemaker (I cook, clean, decorate better than any woman I know) Do you deep down see women as equals? No, because I don't see majority of pe…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/01/23 10:22 PM
1	Promiscuity should be frowned upon by both sexes I see where you're coming from but I think some of the fundamentals of your thinking are off. Like the bit about biology. Not sure when this was ever the case but with 8 billion people, the sexual market is massive and everything is economics, not biology. A super rich fella with not so much attraction (other than wealth and power of course) could impregnate 100 women in one week if he wanted to. Then he could later disown every single one of those babies. Where's the biological selection in thi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/01/23 10:02 PM
1	The fall of Afghanistan: an analysis of gender relations between men and women in Afghan society pre taliban take over and its consequences on societal integrity women for the first time were able to be educated the same way western women were, Get your facts straight. It wasn't the first time.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/01/23 01:51 AM
2	Promiscuity should be frowned upon by both sexes Are you a man? Because if you are, unless you're in the top 20%, you'll be blowing your whole leg off with a 12 gauge by wanting the thing you're talking about. You said it yourself: With less promiscuity what happens ?, ✓ Women ultimately become much more picky, and only select a smaller handful of men as desirable. How's this helping any man? The 80-20 rule is already messing up so many men, especially young men. Are you wishing for doubled, tripled random mass shootings? God, worst idea I've …	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/01/23 01:24 AM
2	A Red Pill Woman Would Probably Never Date a Red Pilled Man Of course as a woman caring for your kids and your husband is a fantastic thing. But in my opinion what RPW isn't doing quite right is the definition of this "provider". Their understanding of "provider" practically makes them much like those NEETs the internet had a decade or two ago. First, "providing" has nothing to do with working and bringing home money. Only the man or only the woman could be working and earning money but still, what RPW doesn't understand is there always needs to be two p…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/01/23 01:01 AM
2	Not feeling desired is what makes most men (including me) have problems with women. The unfortunate reality for most guys, no matter your demographic is that very few people actually care about you. On point. The way out of this isn't sitting on reddit and whining about it, but becoming mighty rich as a man. Work 2 or 3 jobs, push 90+ hours a week, end up with $300k+ a year and then a man will see the society's response is all different all of a sudden. Doing 40 hours a week max, sitting on reddit whining and binge watching whatever SJW show is on the TV is much easier and pref…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/01/23 12:43 AM
17	Saw this earlier with the roles reversed, so let me ask: Men, does it matter if a woman is a loner? Why or why not? 30 something man here. I'd choose a "loner" over the others. Resistance to sustained solitude indicates a strong personality with very high levels of patience and self respect and self love. Less risks of me ending up with a woman that's high maintenance and needs a lot of attention to remain happy.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/01/23 12:38 AM
3	How do women benefit from having a hoe phase? It's not a "phase". It's a part of one's personality. I've never met a woman who's had a "hoe phase", gotten out of it, successfully raised super happy children with proper manners while making a happy home with a happy husband. Now it is not because they had a "phase", but because the general personality type that allows a "hoe phase" in the first place is one that can never do these things. So while their sleeping around days may be over, the personality is still the same. They do benefit from…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/01/23 12:35 AM
2	A Red Pill Woman Would Probably Never Date a Red Pilled Man I do date women with traditional values but a traditional relationship isn't letting the man take down mountains while the woman comfortably sits at home doing nothing but baking cookies. A strong home takes two strong people to build. Baking cookies and words of affirmation don't equal proper companionship. The problem with RPW is, while they got part of the equation right that feminism is cancer, they decided to go all the way to the other end of the spectrum and ended up being nothing but the…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/01/23 12:26 AM
1	A Red Pill Woman Would Probably Never Date a Red Pilled Man Red pill women seem to want to go out of their way to make their relationships work Who gave you that idea? As far as I can see red pill women just wanna let the man do all the heavy lifting while they only "bake them cookies" or "give them words of affirmation".	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/01/23 12:20 AM
3	When men are unable to get a wife, ultimately they will resort to betraying their tribe, this is how Ephialtes betrayed spartans, it is because he couldnt get laid. Why do you want to pass your genes on so badly? I can tell the issue is not just sex here because any man with 400 bucks in his pocket could have the craziest sex for one hour with a top 5% woman any day. Why do you wanna have kids so badly? To prove what? To whom? Then you even come here and threaten random strangers with "treason", by which you really mean you'll go out and shoot random people. So let's take a look at your odds: Situation 1: You continue and not get picked by women, you don't …	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/01/23 12:05 AM
1	What self improvement does manosphere offer to men that fitness, finance, fashion, social skills, etc communities do not? the male has only to do the same thing, be willing to be a renter for longer while "while offering $300K to all the $600K+ houses until somehow one of the sellers accepts", if that's a risk they're willing to accept. Exactly! I fully agree and this is precisely the option B above. And why is it a buyer's market right now you ask? Exactly because of the fact that young men are doing the direct opposite of what you're saying. Meaning that, unlike women, men are making having a partner of opposite …	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/01/23 10:06 PM
1	What self improvement does manosphere offer to men that fitness, finance, fashion, social skills, etc communities do not? I would so wish to still be among the audience of "you young people"! But I see your point on young people feeling entitled, and I do agree. I was merely suggesting ways the current supply-demand could balance. My assertion is, even if you're short with a tiny penis and ugly face and half balding at age 28, while you may not "score" once a week with different woman, your sexual market value (SMV) is sufficient that you can find a long term mate that has equal SMV I must disagree with this th…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/01/23 11:32 AM
1	Are men really struggling to get sex/relationships in real life? Similarly, very few, poor men should struggle to find sex. It's like 200 an hour.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/01/23 12:35 AM
1	Are men really struggling to get sex/relationships in real life? the whole "top male" thing may have some explanatory value. The 80-20 (or whatever the current numbers are) is very real, and is called game theory in mathematics. It explains how both sides (men and women) are hit by the choices made. A large percentage of women completely ignore a large percentage of men as potential sexual partners, this renders this large percentage of women high demand and these low percentage of men become low supply. So this large percentage of women end up having to wait…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/01/23 12:25 AM
-1	Are men really struggling to get sex/relationships in real life? I never understood why men would struggle to have sex in our times. A man with proper financial means (as a proper man should be) can easily have sex with really attractive women by compensating their time.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/01/23 12:20 AM
1	There where studies done on the Wall- Now there is a price tag and women will have to make trade offs in marriage, according to article done by University of Pennsylvania I mean, I don’t think anyone here is going to argue that there is no fertility wall. Thirty-something man here, making six figures yada yada. I would not care if a woman made $7k more every year after 30 when I'm evaluating her value in the prospect of dating/relationships as I will always be seeking a mid to late 20s woman. I find the article quite strange in that regard. So yes, there is a fertility wall.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/01/23 12:12 AM
1	What self improvement does manosphere offer to men that fitness, finance, fashion, social skills, etc communities do not? It is all indeed not about psychology but simple economics, but those men will still be angry because the current market is a buyer's (woman's) market as modern men, for whatever reason, ended up placing so much importance into having a woman and having sex. So women's value exploded and the 80-20 occured. In this messed up market you can't quite go to those majority of men and say "hey it's got nothing to do with psychology but all with economics" and expect them to calm down as those economics…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/01/23 11:45 PM
-2	Low inhibition is the most important trait a man can have. Inhibition is at least a little necessary for a functioning society. Hard working and smart men who don't make sex and women their number one priority and who don't cry out on public forums are necessary for a functioning society. You may not believe it but this would also break the current 80-20 madness that you all so like to complain about, ultimately serving you as well.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/01/23 11:24 PM
1	Do you guys think there will be a "bachelor" Tax in the west at some point due to declining birth rates and men opting out and breaking the social contract? No because being single in many cases is not controlled by the individual and the government knows it. It would be like taxing people for having a certain physical attribute.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/01/23 12:04 PM
2	Men's anger towards women is misplaced: it should be towards other better men I wasn't expecting to see anybody realizing this. This is exactly the problem modern men have. Back in the days men's goals were not as dumb and simple as having a woman and having sex. Men used to concern themselves with making money, working hard, becoming stronger, even conquering whole countries and going to war. 50 years ago men concerned themselves with building machinery, inventing technology, building a global economy after the devastation WW2 had brought. Women were never the goal, nor …	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/01/23 12:01 PM
0	Our ancestors did not get laid for centuries, we threw sh*t at each other and waged tribal warfare in the African savannah until someone figured out that guaranteeing everyone a wife thought monogamy would mean every man has a reason to cooperate and maintain society, this now has been broken We know we have to put in the effort, and we want to. Speak for yourself as not all men put women on a pedestal and think that the effort should be put in getting women. Strong men put their effort in becoming their best in their physique, career, and health. None of these require a woman to be achieved. And it is so sad that even after agreeing to put whatever effort you were talking about in getting women, you are still asking (which is actually begging) for an opportunity. Sorry but not all m…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/01/23 11:52 AM
1	I saw the below question and answer from the CEO of Jefferies bank There's a lot of RPW members who works full to part time, makes six figures, owns their own businesses, etc. but subscribe to the model of having male-led relationships. Yes and it's a really good thing. I doubt the point many people here are missing is the part where the man leads, but rather a lot of the comments and suggestions I read here revolve around women doing things in a relationship that would already be done or could easily be done by the man. Like words of affirmation, cookies, phys…	/r/RedPillWomen	04/01/23 10:57 PM
1	I saw the below question and answer from the CEO of Jefferies bank This isn't a 100% red pill relationship. Mrs Handler has a career and is very independent with her own goals while still having a strong figure in their home. They're doing it right because it takes two strong figures to make a proper home as opposed to the common belief here that suggests a "provider" man is enough and all the woman has to do is clean the house and bake him cookies.	/r/RedPillWomen	04/01/23 10:13 PM
8	My boyfriend is insecure about one of my past sex partners Man with traditional values here, my personal comment and experience below: I've changed everything since I met him, I dress differently, I don't talk to men, I don't go out alone with men, Unfortunately it doesn't matter what you change. This is one of those things to some men that are irreversible. Men with traditional values put the highest values into this. In my case I could never come to terms with it and knew that I could find a woman who hasn't done it so I let her go. I think your optio…	/r/RedPillWomen	04/01/23 10:07 PM
7	What is my role in letting the man lead? I thought you would appreciate a man's input on this. As a man who makes his own fine living and his own home (cooks, cleans, decorates, maintains), the only two things I would expect from a woman would be one, to enrich my soul by engaging in meaningful conversations with me, sharing and discussing ideas with me, challenging my intelligence; and two, to be an excellent mother to our kids. In all honesty, I couldn't care less about words of affirmation or cookies. I bake my own cookies and don't…	/r/RedPillWomen	03/01/23 11:17 PM