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Whats the revenge? I had way more success in my 30s than my 20s ut its just a fact. Im not making it up to get my revenge on women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 12:31 PM
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its far worse for women because looks are much more important in attraction for men than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 12:25 PM
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The wall exists for everyone because everyone loses their looks as they get older. But you're wrong, its far worse for women because looks are much more important in attraction for men than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 12:31 AM
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Its not as rare as youd think. 20% of relationships in the US have a 5+ year age gap and 10% have a 10+ year gap.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 08:44 AM
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No one ages well, but looks are more important to men than women. Thats it. Thats all it is. Men just go for the most attractive women so that will trend towards younger women. All of this stuff about power dynamics, predatory men & is massively overthinking it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 08:41 AM
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Drug addiction, abuse, coercion, sex trafficking, etc. Generally people dont become hookers out of choice. Its desperation.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 02:08 AM
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Yes. I want a study that shows women will choose a happy, short, loser over a less happy, tall success. And one that shows that marriage overwhelmingly benefits women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 07:07 PM
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And you will now of course be able to support that veiwpoint with factual evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 06:58 PM
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Read it again.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 01:11 PM
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The researchers further compared each person’s cortisol rhythm. It was observed that cortisol level is the highest when an individual wakes up and declines during the day. Married individuals showed a faster decline. How do you explain that?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 12:52 PM
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A group could be called a family. Blood is thicker than water and all that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 12:50 PM
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'Less happy" =/= 'depressed'
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 12:01 PM
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I'm not sure what you're trying to say. You're 'small isolated group' are the people you can be truly close to and who will take care of you in hard times. That's why they make people happy. Like I said, we're not meant to be alone, we're meant to be in families.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 10:25 AM
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https://www.chicagobooth.edu/review/marriage-may-be-key-happiness Married people are happier than single people. https://yourdost.com/blog/2017/02/a-new-research-says-married-individuals-are-less-stressed.html Married/ltr people are less stressed. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1349216/pdf/amjph00240-0080.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwihseXV5-uGAxXc8zgGHUWMBJ0QFnoECBEQBQ&usg=AOvVaw0IzAX89ZmP64ZXhOoluVsh Married people have the lowe…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 08:45 AM
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Not all of us. And no one is looking at potential partners and consciously thinking about whether they're able to have kids. It might be happening on a unconscious level, but again that goes back to looks. Beauty relates to health and health relates to fertility.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 07:23 PM
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All it is is that people lose their looks as they get older & looks are more important to men, so as they get older men tend to go for younger women. Thats it, thats all it is. Given the choice most men would choose 40 y.o Gal Gadot over 20 y.o Bella Ramsay. But most men would also choose 20 y.o Gal Gadot over 40 y.o Gal Gadot.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 01:09 PM
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I think people who are getting overly concerned about other people's relationships are saying far more about themselves than anything else. I was 18 years older than my ex and it was the best relationship I've ever had. Age isn't just a number but its not everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 06:41 AM
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Being able to give and receive brutal honesty. I admire people who can deal with the truth without flinching.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 09:48 PM
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Men dont really go for younger women. Men only go for younger women because they cant get women their own age. Men only go for younger women so they can control them more easily. Men only go for younger women because they're immature and cant handle being an adult. This is all just a revenge fantasy. Its a progression of the cope.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 07:13 AM
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Reposting what I posted in thread a few days ago. I'm assuming it'll go down as well now as it did then: Obviously Im just a bitter lonely incel who wants on revenge on women and etc, etc. But: https://www.chicagobooth.edu/review/marriage-may-be-key-happiness Married people are happier than single people. https://yourdost.com/blog/2017/02/a-new-research-says-married-individuals-are-less-stressed.html Married/ltr people are less stressed. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 03:36 AM
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I dont think they're affluent batchelors. They're the 'you cant fire me because I quit' guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 04:55 AM
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Are there a lot of these guys?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 03:09 AM
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To me when men say 'simp' it sounds exactly like when women say 'pick me', and they both sound like people who don't like that other people don't have the same standards as them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 11:13 AM
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https://np.reddit.com/r/Tinder/s/yiVbBkBnNI
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 03:35 AM
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You have no kids and you look a lot better than most women your age. And you're not fat which immediatly makes you a minority in the US. Also you're paying for tinder gold, which is like being the only woman in a club with 100 guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 03:14 AM
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That was the prenup
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 04:49 PM
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She still only got $20 million from the richest man in the world. A goldigger would be looking for half his money.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 10:52 PM
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Rich is rich. She only got 20 million in the divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 10:35 PM
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And there cant possibly be any other reason? By that logic any woman who marries a man richer tjan her is a gold digger.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 10:15 PM
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But Taluah Riley is because she married a rich guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 10:13 PM
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You have a very nihillistic outlook. Why arent Britney Spears or Natalie Portman chasing billionaires?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 10:11 PM
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Why would you be a gold digger when you have your own gold? https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/elon-musk-married-divorced-same-190535830.html She got 20 million, which considering she's a successful actress & her family are wealthy she probably has on her own.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 10:08 PM
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Its not about him being rich, its about him being successful. That's what hypergamy is.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 01:18 PM
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Talulah Riley comes from money. I dont think she's a gold digger.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 09:43 AM
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Its not a flex, its just the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 01:43 PM
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What's 'value' though? Confidence in of itself is valuable. People like confident, outgoing people.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 03:58 PM
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Not really. I know guys who arent that phsyically attractive but have massive amounts of what I would call social confidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 03:43 PM
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Im 42 and I've never been out with a woman over 30. I dont think Im coping. Im aware Im declining now but the point when I was having the most success with women was in my mid-30s. Confidence goes a loooooooong way with women and for men your confidence & looks reach equilibrium in your 30s.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 04:21 AM
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Same way I hold conversations with anyone else. If you get along you get along. Its a weird question to ask, do you think people cant talk to each other if they're not the same age?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 02:52 PM
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Also true & very astute.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 12:39 PM
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"All's fair in love and war." People can have whatever standards they want, but that doesnt mean the people they want are going to want them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 06:07 AM
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Im 42 and I've never had a relationship with a woman over the age of 30. I dont think Im anything special. Every guy I know who got a wife or girlfriend around my age is with a younger woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 11:59 PM
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Extremes of either are bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 04:54 AM
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I got over 1000 then tinder banned me.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 12:11 AM
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I felt like that when I stopped being fat
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 02:09 PM
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Then why would women come up with ideas like 'High Value Women' and 'Men are attracted to confident women'? I think women do understand that looks are important for men in attraction, but I think they still underestimate how important they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 01:07 PM
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Some men will fuck anything that moves, not date anything that moves.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 08:30 AM
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Not the guys they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 07:15 AM
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The amount of unhappilly single far women, or middle aged women confused why they're not getting any attention anymore makes me think they're still underestimating. Or they just think mascara can overcome obesity.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 04:01 AM
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I agree with the first two but not the 2nd. Women massively underestimate how important looks are to men, men massively overestimate how imporant they are to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 03:51 AM
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Am I reading this right? You have $40 million and can't get a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 11:27 AM
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Its not that men dont age or lose their looks as they age, its just that men value looks more than women so aging is a bigger issue for women. Its a myth that men go for younger women, men go for the most attractive women, but since we all peak in our 20s and then go downhill thats usually going to be a younger woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 02:27 AM
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10% of relationships in the US have a 10+ year age gap. Its not that uncommon.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 06:35 AM
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It was always one of my favourite car crash subreddits back in the day.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 10:51 AM
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Do you really want to copy the behavior of wangsting teenage boys?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 08:22 AM
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...and a lot of women seem to be complaining that they can't find 'high value' men. Maybe its worht both of these groups are in denial about what their equivalent actually is.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 10:56 PM
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There's also some suspicions that China might have over estimatesmd their birth rates as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 01:47 AM
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They're not. You're just imaging thats the case because you're left out.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 11:12 PM
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Ew you should reevaluate your “standards” You sound upset. Do you not think in 2024 its a bit backwards to try to dictate who consenting adults are allowed to have relationships with?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 05:08 PM
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Ive no idea what the women who rejected me are now thinking, but (and this always goes down well here) Im 42 and Ive never been out with a woman over 30. I dont think Im particularly good looking and Im not rich.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 04:38 PM
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When you give them a source they'll pretend its not real anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 03:41 PM
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_disparity_in_sexual_relationships In nearly 20% of relationships in the US the mean is 5+ years older than the woman and in over 7% the man is 10+ years older. Conversly in about 8% of relationships the woman is 5+ years older and in less than 2% the woman is 10+ years older.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 03:35 PM
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If you're getting upset about other peoples relationships you need to take a long hard look at your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 06:23 AM
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Its the standard in my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 04:28 AM
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I am a 40 y.o dude and I'm not a RP dude, but that's my experience. I've never been out with a woman over 30 and every single guy I know over the age of about 35 who got a wife or girlfriend at that age is with a woman who's at least 5 years younger than them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 02:12 AM
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The guys who can, will. ​ The guys who can't will settle or be alone. ​ But that's what men want just like women like tall, confident, successful men, and the ones who can get a guy like that will and the ones who can't will settle or be alone. ​ I'm just saying there's no point in being unrealistic or dishonest about it. Men and women both have standards, they're allowed standards and being 'fair' has nothing to do with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 10:12 PM
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It always amazes me when women try to tell men who men are attracted to. Put it like this: 20 something men go for 20 something women. 30 something men go for 20 something women. 40 something men go for 20 something and 30 something women. 50 something men go for 30 something and 40 something women. And so on.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 10:05 PM
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Age is a factor for men. Which isnt strictly true, looks are a factor for men, much more than women, but looks overlap with age so there's a trend for men to go for younger women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 09:20 PM
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Source is; life.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 09:18 PM
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If that's true then why do so many men go for younger women?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 06:42 PM
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If that's true why are so many older men with younger women and not the other way around?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 06:15 PM
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What have statistics got to do with anything? Youre just strawmanning again. Its about people having standards and being allowed to have them. Simple question: Are people allowed to have standards in dating?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 05:28 PM
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Says who? Why are you allowed to make that judgement? You're trying to find excuses for being a hypocrite. They're both standards that men and women have in dating and if men are allowed standards so are women and vis versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 05:10 PM
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All of that is a strawman, I didnt say any of that stuff. My point is that height is a factor in attraction for women and age is a factor in attraction for men. And frankly ranting on the internet about it isnt going to change anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 04:51 PM
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So height is a factor for men. So is age for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 04:06 PM
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Do you think short men should be penalised for being short? Whether its right or wrong its going to happen and you cant control it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 11:15 AM
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The single biggest causal factor is female education. Education = career = wealth & wealthy people don't want to spend their money on kids they don't need. Plus they often have time for them. Less education = less money = economic uncertainty = people having kids for free labor & to take care of them when they're old.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 12:26 PM
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I think some people, on some level dont really want relationships so they unconsciously give themselves impossibly high standards to prevent them ever having one.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 09:56 AM
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Dating isnt football scouting. I dont think its a particular red flag. It might be a bit but I think other things are far more imporrant.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 07:11 AM
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Does that really make a difference? If you really cant find anyone the problem is probably not your age, its more likely sonething else.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 06:41 AM
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My mum met her current partner when he was 70 and she was 60. My dad is died a few years ago but he met met last girlfriend in his 50s.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 06:37 AM
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It sounds like you're talking about your own personal preferences and using them to make a generalisation about all women, but its all good bro, you go out with whoever you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 03:57 AM
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But what does age have to do with that? If your argumemt is that a 25 y.o woman is at her peak so she has the right to choose then I agree with you, but why would the older guy be judged at a different metric than the younger guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 05:18 AM
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But when the object is to find the best partner what should it matter?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 04:45 AM
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??????
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 04:44 AM
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Bitter or jaded & dont have kids
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 04:37 AM
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How is that not measuring up to the standards of women his own age? And why would thar mean he has to be significantly better than younger men?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 04:34 AM
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What about the ones who arent?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 04:32 AM
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Why would a younger man be less flawed than an older man?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 04:25 AM
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You really think women care that a 30 year old woman is dating a 40 year old man? Or a 55 year old man might meet a woman who is 40?! On this sub they do
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 12:40 AM
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Online dating is a sausage fest. Its like trying to pick up women in a club thats 70% men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 06:46 AM
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They're usually old. I've very rarely seen a young woman being called out for acting entitled.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 04:38 AM
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It was the opposite for me. I got virtually nothing until my 30s and then everything became incredibly easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/23 06:40 AM
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I know but thats not whst I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/23 12:30 AM
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I think 1 in 5 relationships has a 5+ age gap and 1 in 10 has a 10+ year age gap. They're more common than you'd think. And Im not rich but I'm 42 and I've never been out with a woman over 30.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 04:25 PM
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You dont have to be extroverted, you just have to be able to hold a conversation with another person. How are you going meet someone from tinder for a date in a bar if you cant talk to someone in a bar in the first place? And dating apps are two thirds men, if you're not good looking enough to pick up women in bars you're definitely not good looking enough for online dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 11:17 PM
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they’re our only option. women can just wait around for the right guy to approach her. Do I have to point out the obvious?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 02:18 PM
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I was 18 years older than my ex and we could talk about random nonsense all day. I have friends who are older than me and friends who are younger. Age doesnt really factor in to whether I can have a conversation with someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 02:06 AM
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There's an element of luck in everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 12:23 PM
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So kind of...Women Going Their Own Way?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 04:42 PM
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I do know fat guys who somewhat good looking girlfriends, so maybe not completely, but they're never going to get to get the hottest girls and there are never going to be enough slim women who are willing to go out with fat guys to match all the fat guys who want slim women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 12:29 AM
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People lie to themselves, and they lie to each other. No matter how many times men can say that they're not attracted to fat women there'll be someone who'll come along and with "Achtshullllllly......" I wouldnt say every time I've rejected a woman its because they're fat, but I would 90% of the time its because they're fat. Not every woman I've knocked back has been fat but I've knocked every fat woman back.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 04:44 AM
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Or people using food to cope with stress, depression, anxiety, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 04:39 AM
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I was fat once and I still wouldnt settle for fat women. All of my fat guy friends are convinced they're going be that one fat guy in 100 who gets a hot, slim, girlfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 04:38 AM
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They wont. Women have higher standards but men still have standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 01:54 AM
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Im talking about women who regret not finding anyone when they had the chance. I dont know how to say it any clearer than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 01:05 AM
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Well thats a different thing. Im talking about women who regret not finding anyone when they had the chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 12:23 AM
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With a specific guy or with any guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 12:12 AM
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Maybe, but maybe not. I know couples with age gaps like that who seem to be getting along fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 04:41 PM
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True, but I think its that looks are important to men but they aren't everything. We still want someone who's somewhere in the same headspace as us. 20 y.o old women might look good to 50 y.o men, but they'll probably have nothing in common with them so they'll go for the 35 y.o women instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 04:25 PM
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That's not my experience. I know plenty of middle aged unhappily single women but I just don't know any middle aged single men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 03:51 PM
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I think he's a man and he's going to go for the most attractive woman he can get who's also somewhat in the same place in her life as him. And because he's Chris Evans and he can pretty much get any woman he wants that means he's gone for a super hot 25 year old.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 03:46 PM
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And in women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 03:45 PM
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Yeah but like I said: Looks are more important to men than to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 03:34 PM
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No, but he's gone for a younger woman for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 03:32 PM
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True, but I think its that looks are important to men but they aren't everything. We still want someone who's somewhere in the same headspace as us. 20 y.o old women might look good to 50 y.o men, but they'll probably have nothing in common with them so they'll go for the 35 y.o women instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 03:08 PM
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Its not a wall thing, its just that people lose their looks as they get older and looks are more important for men than they are for women. Its not a revenge fantasy. Do you think Chris Evans is somehow getting revenge on women who've rejected him by marrying a women who's 25?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 03:06 PM
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Because looks are more important for men than women. 20 y.o women rarely go for 40 y.o men, but 25 y.o women will go for 35 y.o men, and 30 y.o women will go for 40 y.o men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 02:52 PM
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I know plenty of women in their late 30s and 40s who regret not settling down with a guy when they had the chance. Everyone loses their looks as they get older but looks are more important to men than women so there's going to be a trend of men going for younger women. Its as simple as that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 02:51 PM
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They fat women I know do not have no problems dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 02:28 AM
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What stats? And tinder is at least two thirds men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 02:21 AM
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Or maybe just different standards? I've never heard a man say he cares about a woman's height.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 07:13 PM
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Do you have the numbers to back that up?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 07:09 PM
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Minimum 99% of men find fat women unnattractive. Its completely surreal that there are women who still dont get that. Its like no matter how many times its said you just refuse to acknowledge it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 07:08 PM
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https://www.statista.com/chart/20822/way-of-meeting-partner-heterosexual-us-couples/ Bars/Restaurants are the 2nd most popular places people meet their partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 04:45 PM
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Single women are three times more likely to kill themselves than married women https://www.standard.co.uk/hp/front/being-unmarried-makes-a-woman-a-higher-suicide-risk-6678947.html Suicide numbers peak in women aged 45-64 https://www.statista.com/statistics/1114127/female-suicide-rate-in-the-us-by-age-group/ People with children a lower risk of suicide than people with children: https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00127-022-02321-y
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 12:58 AM
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Its a movie that shows a female fantasy of a hot guy approaching them but they are so confident in their hotness they can reject and humiliate them. Its a fantasy, just like every Adam Sandler movie is a fantasy about a slobbish adult manchild getting an improbably attractive woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 11:39 AM
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First of all, single parent families are devasting for children: 63% of suicides in the US are by children single parent families. 70% of teenage suicides are by children from single parent families. 70% of people who never finish high school come from single parent families. 80% of rapists come from single parent families. 90% of homeless people come from single parent families Children of 2 parent families do better on every single educational metric than children of single parent families. Se…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 02:38 PM
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Its the conflict between its twin Puritan & liberatarian heritages. The pilgrims wanted the freedom to practice their religion but the 'freedom' and 'religion' parts come into conflict.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 03:16 PM
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All things being equal. The same guy but 40 & 6 ft or 20 & 5ft.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 11:08 PM
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Men going for younger is universal in every society studied.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 03:06 PM
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Question for women: All other things being equal, is a 5ft 20 year old man more attractive than a 6ft 40 y.o man?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 03:05 PM
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https://relationshipsadvice.co/age-gap-relationship-statistics Reddit is not representative of real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 08:22 AM
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Its not rare. Something like 20% of relationships have gap of 6+ years and 10% have a gap of 10+ years.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 08:06 AM
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I came here to say this. When men can't deal with the idea that women have standards and rant about it online we call them incels. When women do exactly the same thing they don't seem to see the irony at all. No one ever critcises Madonna or Sharon Stone going out with men half their, or Steven Fry marrying a guy who's in his 20s while he (Fry) is in his 50s, or Bridgette Macron marrying a friend of her teenage son. Its always woman complaininf that straight men go for younger women. Women have …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 06:04 AM
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I know plenty of young people under 25 who are very mature and plenty of fully grown adults who are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 05:52 AM
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Age gap relationships are more common than you think. Around 8% of heterosexual relationships in Western countries have an age gap of 10+ years. https://relationshipsadvice.co/age-gap-relationship-statistics/ In almost 20% of married couples in the US the husband is 6+ years older than their wife. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_disparity_in_sexual_relationships If you add up all of the datasets it comes to a difference of about 6%.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 03:24 PM
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What 'snark'? Only 50 y.o homless store clerks want you?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 03:50 PM
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https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/2019/6/4/18650969/married-women-miserable-fake-paul-dolan-happiness That study was debunked and redacted by the author
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 03:44 PM
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But those women are not the only ones who end up alone. its not delusional if youre perfectly willing to be alone rather than accept a man that doesnt conform to your standards. Some women just have unrealistic standards
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 03:17 PM
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The women I know who Im talking about are not the bottom of barrel
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 03:12 PM
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Yes it is. Be realistic means 'be realistic', not accept anything. Most guys are not homeless 50 y.o store clerks with no ambition. But if those are the only guys who want you then you're probably not much of a catch yourself, hence 'be realistic'
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 03:07 PM
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They're not fine. Ive never met a 40 y.o cat mommy who's happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 03:05 PM
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Its not an ideal solution either. If the only people who want you are the very bottom of the barrel it might be time to ask yourself some serious questions.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 03:04 PM
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Yeah, I know a few of those women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 02:15 PM
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Thats a strawman
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 02:14 PM
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What you call 'settling' could also be called 'being realistic'
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 01:51 PM
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Every woman I know who said she'd rather be alone than settle is now alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 01:43 PM
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It is absurd & he was probably unrealistic but he's hardly Harvey Weinstein. This isn't a me too thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 12:36 PM
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There are never going to be enough fat fetishists for the amount of fat women in the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 07:22 AM
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Some men will have sex with just about anything and anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 07:19 AM
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How what works? There are about 200k expats in Shanghai I think. I know a few western women with chinese boyfriends but its much more common the other way round.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 04:49 PM
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The single ones are, and they wont go out with chinese guys but expat men will go out with chinese women. I use a vpn to get on reddit
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 04:34 PM
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You don't have to be in the top 20%, you just have to not be in the bottom 20%
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 07:00 AM
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Yep. Its not a complete numbers game but it is largely a numbers game. If you're reasonable looking, reasonably hygenic, mentally stable, able to hold a conversation without making a fool out of yourself and just talk to a lot of women, you'll get some action. You don't have to be in the top 20%, you just have to not be in the bottom 20%
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 05:20 AM
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Story #1 I was talking to a female friend about dating in China and I asked her why expat women don't go out with Chinese men, and she shows me her little finger and says: "Why do you think?" Twenty minutes later she was calling me shallow for saying I wouldn't go out with a fat girl. Story #2 I was talking to a fat expaty girl in an expat club, full of guys trying to hit on ridiculously hot Eastern European girls, and this girl turns to me and tells me that dating is so hard for her in China is…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 12:50 PM
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I live in China and I cannot express how true this is and just how mich fat expat women are conpletely in denial of it. Men don't have yellow fever, men have not-fat fever.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 04:23 AM
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Not as many
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 03:27 AM
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Is it bollocks. Ive seen women complain that Patrick Stewarts wife is half his age (shes in her 40s) and that Elon Musk had a girlfriend who was 20 years younger than him (in her 30s). Women dont like the fact that men have standards and preferences, especailly when those standards exclude them. Thats all it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 06:36 AM
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What do you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 05:04 PM
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I dont know. I didnt say either of those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 04:57 PM
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I've met one irl amd talked to a few online. My biggest takeaway is that with a few exceptions they're just antosocial. They were never correctly socialised when they were young and dont understand the social dimension of dating and relarionships. They cant comprehend meeting women outside of dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 12:49 PM
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A fuckload of surgery probably helps
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 08:42 AM
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Men dont go for the youngest women, they go for the most attractive women, but because none of us are getting any better looking as we age thats going to trend towards younger women. Exceptions exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 07:23 AM
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20% is quite low. I think women need a higher body fat % than men because they have less muscle. 20% on women is about 10% on men so Im not surprised its borderline unhealthy
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 01:23 PM
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Men dont go for unhealthily skinny women any more than they go for unhealthily fat women, if you think they do you have a warped idea of what a healthy person looks like. Those 'malnourished' south koreans have the healthiest bmi in the developed world.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 12:19 PM
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"That girl doesn't like me so she must be a lesbian." "Men are intimidated by my confidence." "Men who like skinny girls can't handle real women like me." "Men who go for younger women can't deal with women their own age." Its all just copes because people don't want to acknowledge that they're not as attractive as they think they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 01:48 AM
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Men go for the best looking women and since no one is getting better looking as they get older and most people peak in their 20s thats going to trend towards younger women. 2.Men go for the best looking women and since no one is getting better looking as they get older and most people peak in their 20s thats going to trend towards younger women. 3. Men go for the best looking women and since no one is getting better looking as they get older and most people peak in their 20s thats going to trend…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 06:40 AM
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I know plenty of very average to very-below-average middle aged men with younger wives and girlfriends.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 07:32 AM
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online dating There's your problem
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 03:53 AM
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Ah, okay. Point taken. I don't agree with that part.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 04:40 AM
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Who said anything about 18 year olds?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 03:38 AM
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I don't meet most of those and I still do alright. I havent noticed this thing of average girls with insanely high stansards, I have noticed a lot of frankly ugly girls with completely unrealistic standards though.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 02:48 AM
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So you're saying that men are going for younger women because they cant find women their own age?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 11:41 PM
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Can you direct me to where it talks about age?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 11:40 PM
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The majority would do it if they could. Look at nearly every rich, famous guy
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 11:37 PM
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They're not.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 11:31 PM
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Older men going for younger women doesn't support the claim that older men go for younger women?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 02:41 PM
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I mean, its literally older men going for younger women...
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 02:39 PM
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Can you show me where you're getting this information? I can't find anything that says that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 02:20 PM
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people have larger age gaps when they are older generally. I know, that's what I'm saying; older men go for younger women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 01:55 PM
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Why do you assume a 25 y.o woman can't have a mature conversation or is interested in interesting things? I came to this sub expecting to find a load of guys raging at the idea that women could have standards that they didn't meet and refusing to acknoweldge that they and not everyone might be the problem. What I've more often found is women raging at the idea that men can have standards as well and blaming everyone but themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 11:58 AM
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The majority of men are older than their partners. The stats I found say every three days and nothing about significant age differences either. https://www.endviolenceagainstwomen.org.uk/femicide-census-reveals-half-of-uk-women-killed-by-men-die-at-hands-of-partner-or-ex/
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 11:37 AM
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Can I see those stats?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 11:23 AM
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https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2014/12/04/tying-the-knot-again-chances-are-theres-a-bigger-age-gap-than-the-first-time-around/
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 08:01 AM
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Lets not pretend the older guys dating younger women are looking for wives
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 07:23 AM
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It shows that men dont go for younger women just for fun, they do want long term relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 07:18 AM
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https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2014/12/04/tying-the-knot-again-chances-are-theres-a-bigger-age-gap-than-the-first-time-around/ Here are the stats. I said this elsewhere but men don't go for younger women, they go for attractive women so that usually, inevitably means younger women. Whether thats a smart choice or not is neither here nor there, it just is.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 07:06 AM
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Maybe, but that still doesn't prove that older men only go for younger women for short term relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 06:46 AM
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I keep saying this, but; Men don't go for younger women, men go for attractive women, so that usually (but not always) means younger women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 06:30 AM
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I think the stats are that older guys do end up marrying those girls who are significantly younger than them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 06:29 AM
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Tbf I know women like that, but they are a rarity.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 10:04 AM
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Anyone who thinks single middle aged women are happy has npt met many single middle aged women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 05:44 AM
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My ex was 18 years younger than me and I'm not rich or famous. I have a friend who was 60 last year and his wife is nwarly 30 years younger than him.
/r/AllPillDebate28/02/23 03:28 AM
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Some younger guys have fetishes for older women. No older men do. Look at all the rich & famous men with hot young wives & girlfriends.
/r/AllPillDebate28/02/23 03:09 AM
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No man in his 50s is chasing women in their 50s.
/r/AllPillDebate28/02/23 12:23 AM
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It doesnt have to be 10 years, it just has to be enough to push some women into the next age group up, and some men into dating the next age group down. If you add all these dats sets together the difference is only 4% between men and women.
/r/AllPillDebate27/02/23 11:54 PM
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https://www.psycom.net/relationships/age-difference-in-relationships#:~:text=In%20Western%20countries%2C%20about%208,%25%20of%20female%2Dfemale%20relationships.&text=And%2C%20in%20any%20case%2C%20experts,age%20difference%20does%20not%20exist. In Western countries, about 8% of male-female couples have an age gap of 10 years or more, rising to 25% in male-male unions and 15% of female-female relationships.
/r/AllPillDebate27/02/23 11:21 PM
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Why not?
/r/AllPillDebate27/02/23 11:16 PM
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Im not sure what the point you're trying to make is
/r/AllPillDebate27/02/23 11:15 PM
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That doesn't mean he has to settle for her. If women don't have to settle why should men?
/r/AllPillDebate27/02/23 12:50 AM
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The most logical explanation, unless you want to believe that one third of men age 18-29 are in polyamorous relationships. The 4% could be explained by sone men & women have different definitions of what 'single' & 'dating' are or just dating people who are outside of whatever catchment area they used.
/r/AllPillDebate23/02/23 12:05 AM
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Most young men are single. Most young women are not. young
/r/AllPillDebate23/02/23 12:00 AM
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In the UK a certain amount of parental leave can be shared between the father and mother but in nearly all cases the father doesn't take any. Sweden is the only country with mandatory paternal leave and its birth rate is the same as the US
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 10:42 PM
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They could also be dating older men, as well. That's what it is. There's a massive discrepancy in the numbers of self reported single men and single women under 25, but when all age ranges are combined it goes down to about 5% difference, and there could be a lot of explanations for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 10:11 PM
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Its amazing how much science and knowledge and research goes into the bin when it offends the wrong people. Everyone should be encouraged to take up sports, but its counter productive to assume that women will just like the exact same sports as men, or like them in the same way.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 06:28 AM
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Testosterone.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 06:18 AM
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I have never heard of any guy on social media, trad media or in real life seriously say anything negative about a guy with an older wife or girlfriend or whatever. Men just don't do that, we don't give a shit. I've no idea what the point you're trying to make about losing weight is.
/r/AllPillDebate09/02/23 11:51 PM
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I don't think women are. Its not fat men trying to convince men that they're really attractive & they just don't conform to society's beauty standard. Its not men who are angry at older women going out with people half their age.
/r/AllPillDebate09/02/23 11:44 PM
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Yep. That early 30s stage is the best time to be a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/23 03:07 PM
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The stats for remarriage in the US show that the age gap for second mstriages gets bigger. In other words, older men who remarry marry younger women.
/r/AllPillDebate07/02/23 01:13 PM
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Thats because most people in Africa get married young. I live un Shanghai btw, which is as first world as China gets. Its just not a big deal culturally.
/r/AllPillDebate07/02/23 11:54 AM
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I agree, but thats only because there are so many women who can't handle the idea that men have standards & preferences generally. Its not only fat women who try to tell men that fat women are akshully really attractive, its not only single mothers who try to tell men that akshully you just need to man up and take care of someone else's kid, they all do it.
/r/AllPillDebate07/02/23 11:49 AM
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I live in China & I've lived in Asia for years. This is not even a debate in Asia, they just understand that men go for the hottest women and that means that older men tend to go for younger wonen
/r/AllPillDebate07/02/23 11:45 AM
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No they're not. They're far more common & normal.
/r/AllPillDebate07/02/23 08:38 AM
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I have a friend who's short and bald and does okay with women as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/23 08:34 AM
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Not nesecarily. I have a friend who's almost morbidly obese & has a good looking girlfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 06:48 AM
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Like I said, feel free to point some out to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/23 08:15 PM
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I can't find anything saying that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/23 07:53 PM
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Feel free to send me in the direction of men saying they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/23 07:50 PM
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I dont think they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/23 07:38 PM
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Fat men can get hot women. Fat women cannot get the best men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/23 07:26 PM
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I would not consider not knowing how to drive, being broke or having mental issues (unless they were severe) red flags. In fact you've pretty much described my girlfriend apart from the having no friend spart.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/23 07:25 PM
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If he's willing to remain physically fit as well it is. Relationships break down when people stop trying to be attractive to their partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/23 10:48 AM
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Since AI generated content has no direct victims, it will be legal and probably even promoted by new platforms to be born. Drawn pictures of minors engaged in sexual activity are illegal in a lot of countries and AI content will be no different, but I agree it will be hard to police and be freely available. No time in history men were able to create their own pornographic content with just a prompt and a few pictures. Its always been with us. Assuming people have some sort of artistic skill they…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/23 12:12 AM
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None of the 30+ single women I know are happy. I know more than one who've had full blown meltdowns.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/23 10:31 PM
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I keep saying this but the average guy from a western country is much better than averagr globally. I got do many matches in China I got banned from from tinder.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/23 12:11 AM
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But it does show that those are the women that older men are going for. And that must mean that all the examples you gave in your post about men with older wives must be more likely to fail as well. Can't have it both ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 01:31 AM
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The stats show that as men get older the age gap between them & their partners gets bigger.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 12:41 AM
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Men dont go for the younger women, but men do go for the best looking women and because no one is getting better looking as they get older and most people peak in their 20s that skews male attraction towards younger women. Its not always going to be younger women but it will tend that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 12:13 AM
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He might have avoidant personality disorder, thats why he bounces from short term relationship to short term relationship. But going out with a hot girl in their early 20s? That is the dream of most single 40 something guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 12:06 AM
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She's not bad looking. She might be very charming & charasmatic.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 11:31 PM
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1st world existance is good by third world standards. Its indoor plumbing, electrical sockets that won't kill you, not working 6 days a week and decent(ish) education for your kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 11:03 PM
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Unless he can move the woman to the 1st world. But the point remains: $35k is a high salary globally. 5'10 is tall globally. A US high schools education is well educated globally.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 10:45 PM
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I see a lot of women complaining that men don't meet their standards, but they don't stop to consider that they don't meet the standards of the men they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 10:06 PM
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You have to meet other people's standards as well. There's no point thinking you're going to get a supermodel if you're 5 foot tall, look like Harvey Weinstein, have a tiny dick and are unemployed.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 09:59 PM
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I'm not sure what point you're trying to make. The guy I've described is 'fit to mate' if measured against all of the men in the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 09:50 PM
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The ones who can, do.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 09:41 PM
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Getting casual sex would be much easier. Being my age, getting a partner the same age would be much more difficult.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 09:40 PM
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What's unfit to one woman will not be unfit to another. An average guy in the US, overweight, 5'10, earning $35k, probably does not have a college degree, maybe owns his own home, will not be considered a catch by most US women, but he will be by a lot of women elsewhere in the world. 'Fit' is subjective. Globally, that guy I've just described is one of the best men in the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 09:32 PM
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You could say the exact same thing about men. No one has to be attracted to anyone else, so ultimately everyone has the same choice: Be realistic or be alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 06:52 AM
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The popularization of this meme about Andrew Tate proves the blackpill.
/r/AllPillDebate31/01/23 02:34 PM
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Yeah I agree. But I don't understand what the point is here. People are attracted to attractive people and not attracted to ugly people, but looks aren't everything. How is this 'blackpill'? I thought it was just common sense?
/r/AllPillDebate31/01/23 02:17 PM
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He's very average looking at best, he has bug eyes and a very weak jawline.
/r/AllPillDebate30/01/23 05:32 PM
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...but he does prove that guys who are not attractive can get women, so looks should not be an excuse.
/r/AllPillDebate30/01/23 05:26 PM
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...which means looks aren't everything. Loads of ugly guys get women. It would be easier if they weren't ugly but they still get them.
/r/AllPillDebate30/01/23 04:21 PM
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Do you mean he couldn't have?
/r/AllPillDebate30/01/23 03:43 PM
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But it wasn't his looks getting him those girls, so at the very least other things matter.
/r/AllPillDebate30/01/23 03:23 PM
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So he isn't attractive but he was still successful with women? What does that prove exactly?
/r/AllPillDebate30/01/23 02:57 PM
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It never stopped happening, its just that the poor women come from other countries now.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/23 01:17 PM
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People really don't like being told that they are the problem and not everyone else.
/r/AllPillDebate29/01/23 08:06 AM
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Men are much more realistic about what women are attracted to. I've never seen a short guy say that women's attraction to tall men is because of society's beauty standards or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/23 08:05 AM
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Yes they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/23 08:02 AM
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That's exactly what it is. It defines what women are attracted to and what they are not. Women are attracted to a number of attributes and the more of those attributes a man has the more attractive he is to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/23 09:07 PM
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Yes it is. Why would a girl who just needs to go to a bar to be hit on by men need dating apps?
/r/AllPillDebate28/01/23 08:45 PM
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The women I know who don't use tinder see it as hook up app and they're not looking for hook ups. Most of the girls I know who do use tinder don't have a choice because they're the girls guys don't want.
/r/AllPillDebate28/01/23 08:44 PM
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That's my point. Broadly speaking every woman wants the same type of guy. Every woman finds the same thing attractive. Some women might like blonde hair, some might like brown hair, some might not like lean guys and some might like bears, but the basics are the same. The 'positive attributes' are the same for nearly all women. The exact same thing is true of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/23 08:35 PM
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The difference is that men make up the vast majority of tinder users and have much lower standards for casual hook ups
/r/AllPillDebate28/01/23 04:42 PM
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I had 800 in 24 hours....
/r/AllPillDebate28/01/23 01:28 PM
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True but, in my experience anyway, there are a lot of fat ugly women are still convinced they can get the higher tier men, and will blame anyone but themselves when they cannot ("You just can't handle my confidence!", etc.). if everyone was realistic and what they opposite sex is attracted to and how attractive they are there wouldn't be any involuntary incels or involuntary single people.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/23 12:37 PM
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Tall At least ressonable looking Intelligent Confident Physically fit Successful Women might have preferences on some things and might care about some of the above more than others, but no woman is going for the short, dumb, slob loser who can't maintain eye contact.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/23 08:20 AM
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If you think every man who talks to you wants to have sex with you you're either incredibly attractive or incredibly deluded.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/23 08:14 AM
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No. It might be in the minus column but it won't be a deal breaker. If a woman is 6'5 and looks like Gal Gadot she'll still be considered beautiful by most men. If a guy looks like Chris Pine but is 5'5 most women will not be interested.
/r/AllPillDebate27/01/23 11:23 PM
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There aren't, but every woman wants the same kind of guy and they will invent reasons why they deserve that guy, and if that guy doesn't want them some women will decide that its everyone's fault but their own. Its the flip side of the incel mentality. Just as much as their are a lot of guys who think they are entitled to girls without putting in any effort themselves a lot of women think they are entitled to the best men without putting in the effort to be the kind of women those guys want.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 11:11 PM
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That's kind of what I mean, men need to find a way to talk to women without hitting on them, before they start hitting on them. Being overt usually doesn't work. You have to kind of build trust & rapport first.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 08:57 PM
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You just have to do it subtley without coming across as weird or obvious. Ask her & her friends to join you & your friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 06:19 PM
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Some men are as well. I know guys who dont sleep around or dont have sex outside if relationships.
/r/AllPillDebate26/01/23 12:14 PM
1

Without saying something stupid or making a fool out of yourself. Having social skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 10:39 AM
3

Personaly; Honesty, loyalty, not being 'princessy' sensitivity
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 09:50 AM
3

42% of women as well, going by those numbers. But you're assuming all of those people want to have sex or are actively looking.
/r/AllPillDebate26/01/23 04:13 AM
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Its (partly) a numbers game, guys who hit on women are bound to get a result sooner or later, but you're automatically associating hitting on women with being creepy or disrespectful, which it doesn't have to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 08:45 PM
4

If 'bending over and doing what society tells them' means 'leaving their basements and learning to talk to women without making an arse out of themselves' then yes. Thats what everyone else has to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 07:57 PM
2

They think the world should change to suit them. They think women should just force themselves to be attracted to unnatractive anti-social men like fat women think men should be forced to be attracted to fat women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 07:47 PM
1

Not in my experience. And I doubt there are many old guys who fall for trp either
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 06:13 PM
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Its online dating, what do you expect? It was probably just a bot.
/r/AllPillDebate25/01/23 05:41 PM
1

The same thing as the younger guy plus maturity and stability. My gf doesn't like guys her age because she says she finds them flaky, immature & irresponsible.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 05:30 PM
1

Dude, you don't even talk to people. How would you know who exists?
/r/AllPillDebate25/01/23 05:10 PM
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I have come to the conclusion through browsing these incely subreddits and from people I know irl that fat women and incels have the same mentality: They both refuse to acknowledge that they are responsible for their own problems, they expect the world to change for them instead of solving their own problems, and when the world doesn't change to suit them they become angry and bitter.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 05:03 PM
1

They just banned me for 'recommending rape'. That's not a joke.
/r/AllPillDebate25/01/23 04:12 PM
0

Are we having some sort of misunderstanding? I live in China. I've lived in a bunch of developing countries. Anywhere outside of the western world the wife takes care of the home, and possibly has a job on the side, and the man is the breadwinner.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 11:27 AM
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I guarantee you it is not. I've lived a bunch of countries all around the world. The 'ideal' is not the reality is that a women will work until she gets married and has kids and then she'll stay at home and take care of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 11:23 AM
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Thats a western centric veiw. The 'domestic housewife' veiw of marriage is still the ideal if not the reality in most of the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 09:50 AM
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Some women can't handle it when men have standards. Its fine for women to like older guys (or younger guys, Sharon Stone never gets any critisicm) but if a guy goes for younger woman its because he's manipulative/abusive, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 09:15 AM
1

Egotism without confidence just comes off as weird and creepy.
/r/AllPillDebate24/01/23 10:17 PM
1

I'm thinking of two guys in particular: Guy 1: Maybe not morbidly obese but close. Hairy & bearded, looks like Peter Jackson when he was fat. Massive extrovert with no social fear at all. Will wander around a bar all night talking to random strangers, buying people drinks and cracking jokes. That kind of guy. Has a hot girlfriend. Guy 2: Basically a dwarf. 5'2, bald. Big ginger beard. Actually pretty ripped. Massively gregarious, will happily talk to anyone about anything for hours. Has a semi-s…
/r/AllPillDebate24/01/23 10:10 PM
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Neither am I. But if you consider having sex with someone who's under the influence of alcohol rape then nearly everyone who's ever lived, male and female, is.
/r/AllPillDebate24/01/23 09:39 PM
-1

Again, this is your problem: Its not that you're ugly or physically unattractive (at least not just that), but its that you're anti-social and just fucking mental.
/r/AllPillDebate24/01/23 09:37 PM
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See this is the whole problem with you guys; Its like I'm talking to children, you have no life experience at all. You shouldn't have to explain to adults that booze + sex = fun. I figured that out by the time I was 15.
/r/AllPillDebate24/01/23 09:29 PM
-4

Don't be silly. If people didn't have drunk sex the human race would have gone extinct thousands of years ago.
/r/AllPillDebate24/01/23 09:10 PM
-2

I know guys who do fine with women even though they're not physically attractive purely because they're outgoing and have social intelligence, and I also know guys who are tall, ripped and good looking who are disasters with women. Looks matter， but how much they matter is magnified by the context they're in. On dating apps they're everything, if you're in dark club at 2am and the girl has a couple of drinks in her and you're saying the right things you can get away with a lot more.
/r/AllPillDebate24/01/23 08:44 PM
1

It is normal for men & women to be friends
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 02:54 PM
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Thats what I'm; the solution is for people who want other people to being so shallow to stop being so shallow themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 12:23 PM
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No one deserves anything, you can't dictate who people should be attracted to. But how about short guys & ugly women? Short is basically the same thing as ugly to women after all.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 12:18 PM
5

You could say exactly the same thing about men and fat women. The solution is obviously for short men and fat women to stop being so shallow and go out with each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 12:04 PM
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I think its scarcity mindset. They can't get women so they become obsessed with them and it warps their whole ideas about what dating and relationships actually are.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 10:07 AM
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Most women out or in OLD think they're better looking than they are Tbh I don't disagree with that, but what I'm saying is that more options for women would force them to be realistic. If OLD have more women the top guys would have more and the less attractive women wouldn't have access to the top guys, if you see what I mean. Women can only choose from the guys who want them, not from all men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 02:35 PM
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I don't think it would to the same extent. I'm just being hypothetical but if all your options are in one place and there as as many men as women it goes back to the old fashioned dating game. Men meeting women in clubs and bars and that's a much more 'egalitarian' way of matching with people. I get that there a lot of women are in denial of how attractive they actually are but that's because they're in a small pool of women on dating apps, which for a lot of them is probably why they're on dati…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 08:05 AM
2

Reddit is full of anti-social idiots and children, but I've never heard anyone say that. This is what bars and clubs were invented for.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 07:53 AM
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Where do you live? I go out every weekend and talk to strangers in bars and clubs.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/23 08:44 PM
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Online dating only favours women because men use it far more than women. Tinder in the US is at least 75% men, if it was more equal men wouldn't have such a big problem finding partners. But the 'intervention' is for men who don't have any success online to stop using apps and meet women through normaln socialisation.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/23 08:38 PM
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I matched with a girl on tinder & we agreed to hook up. We met & took a walk got along great and went to a bar. I figured we'd get a drink & I'd make a move ("Hey let's go back to to my place...to look at this....thing...I have at...my place...."). Randomly she runs into some of her friends, starts talking to them and instantly ditches me and refuses to talk to me for the rest of the night. I literally just put on my jacket and left after an hour of being ignored.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/23 08:34 PM
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This place is but women dominate the dating subreddits. I wouldnt call this place a dating subreddit. Its a discussion subreddit between male & female points of view
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/23 06:12 PM
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If women were happy with being single I wouldnt imagine theyd be on dating subs feeling the need to reassure people how happy they were.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/23 05:48 PM
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Not any of the single women I know.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/23 05:39 PM
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They dont have to, but if they dont they should complain that men aren't attracted to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/23 10:47 AM
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Mostly but not necessarily. Men and women are attracted to different things, men are mainly go for looks, women go for looks, status, personality, height, etc. Men and women are roughly matched in their appeal to the opposite sex. An average/ggugly guy is not going to attract a supermodel, but an ugly billionaire will.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/23 04:40 AM
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Ugly is creepy. I've been fat and ugly & ripped & not ugly, and women treated me completely differently when I when I wasn't fat & ugly even though I wasn't doing anything differently. And I've noticed I do the same thing myself, when an attractive girl checks me out its nice, it feels flattering. But when a fat girl checks me out my instant reaction is to feel grossed out.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 07:47 PM
3

I know guys who are far below average looking and still get girls.
/r/AllPillDebate17/01/23 05:23 PM
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That might be your problem, you waited too long and they see you as friends and not potential partners. The again maybe you're just in that 10% who are not attractive.
/r/AllPillDebate17/01/23 05:18 PM
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I genuinely can't beleive that anyone who actually goes out, socialises and hits on women can't have any luck at all. I know guys who really rough and still get women.
/r/AllPillDebate17/01/23 05:09 PM
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I'd bet quite a large amount of money that 90% Foreveralonemen spend their entire lives staring at a screen and never interact with other human beings.
/r/AllPillDebate17/01/23 04:43 PM
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You can, this is what Buddhist monks so. They try to stop having any desires to free themselves from the pain of desire. But unless you want to spend 20 years chanting on a mountain top in isolation it'll be a lot easier to just get jacked, figure out how to act like a normal person and ask out some girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 03:48 PM
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That isn't what I asked.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 06:43 AM
2

...and not all men go for women, so is homosexuality a choice as well?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 06:39 AM
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Point taken, but its still more of a negative for a woman than it is for a man. Maybe her husband has a fetish for fat women
/r/AllPillDebate16/01/23 06:27 AM
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I'll tell you one thing I've learend form this sub: Women really, really cannot handle the idea that men have standards & preferences as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 04:57 AM
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Are you suggesting that Johnny Depp, Leo Dicaprio, Hugh Heffner and all the other rich & famous men who go out with younger women do so because they were rejected when they were young?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 04:56 AM
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Why?
/r/AllPillDebate16/01/23 04:49 AM
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Well, that's not my experience. I've had more than a few fat girls hit on me and be shocked when I knock them back. I would have thought that if they were honest about with themselves they wouldn't be shocked.
/r/AllPillDebate15/01/23 06:27 PM
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What do you mean?
/r/AllPillDebate15/01/23 05:51 PM
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https://www.fatherly.com/health/romantic-advantages-for-fat-guys https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dad_bod
/r/AllPillDebate15/01/23 05:49 PM
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Source?
/r/AllPillDebate15/01/23 05:40 PM
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I think its even higher in part of the M.East
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 04:39 PM
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I know many fat women who are unhappily single and can't seem to understand that its because they're going for guys way out of their league. Like I said: The idea that men are attracted to fat women is a fat woman's fantasy.
/r/AllPillDebate15/01/23 03:54 PM
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But men aren't chasing them. Both male and female subjects ranked normal weight figures with 0.7 and 0.8 WHR as more attractive and desirable for long-term relationships; neither underweight nor overweight figures, irrespective of WHR size, were assigned high ranking for these variables. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/7833963/ Obese women were 30 percent less likely than normal-weight women to have had a sexual partner in the last year. https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/heavy-women-not…
/r/AllPillDebate15/01/23 03:16 PM
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I've never whined about that and I've never noticed it. I have noticed it the amount of fat girls who are completely and utterly in denial about how attractive they are though.
/r/AllPillDebate15/01/23 03:08 PM
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https://yougov.co.uk/topics/health/articles-reports/2021/08/05/physical-appearance-and-sexual-attractiveness 40% of men prefer slimmer women compared to 23% of women prefering slimmer men
/r/AllPillDebate15/01/23 12:42 PM
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Being fat is less of a turn off to women than it is to men. If a man is tall & good looking he can get away with being a bit podgy, wonen cannot.
/r/AllPillDebate15/01/23 12:31 PM
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Look at obesity rates in the middle east and you might change your mind. Turns out its easy to get fat & hide if you're forced to wear a tent all day.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/23 02:23 PM
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Most men dont prefer women their own age unless their own age is under 30. I agree with you about everything else, but like I said elsewhere it might be that when the whole idea of having a relationship with a woman seems like a fantasty there's a tendency to imagine that woman in that relationship to be the perfect fantasty woman as well.
/r/AllPillDebate13/01/23 12:46 PM
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Be honest, 99% of women are going to go for the tall, good looking，confident guy who's in good shape just like 99% of men are going to go for the hot, 20something girl who's fun & friendly & in good shape.
/r/AllPillDebate13/01/23 12:41 PM
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So do most men generally.
/r/AllPillDebate13/01/23 12:29 PM
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Why do most women?
/r/AllPillDebate13/01/23 12:27 PM
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Maybe because their primary source of 'interaction' with women comes from porn & other media so thats how they expect all women to be. But, lets be honest, when you say 'vanilla' you really mean ideal or perfect, because most of those things are what most men want. It might be that because they see any sort of relationship with a woman as a fantasy they're just adding the perfect fantasy woman into the mix.
/r/AllPillDebate13/01/23 12:26 PM
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Thats the same for most men.
/r/AllPillDebate13/01/23 12:20 PM
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Looks/age/weight ( they're the same thing) Personality N count Career
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/23 03:24 PM
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A 60 year old man called Elizabeth?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 03:26 PM
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He might be to a 65 y.o woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 03:25 PM
1

Isn't that what the woman in the story was saying? "Freeze your eggs and free your career"
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 05:56 AM
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Some data suggests that in the US, egg freezing retrievals increased by 39% from pre-pandemic levels, and in the UK, enquiries rose by as much as 50% in the summer of 2020, compared to the prior year. A rise is a rise. And that's a huge rise. But I'm just saying that people need to realise that its not as reliable as people think. Its not the golden miracle for career women that its made out to be. https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20220816-the-sharp-rise-in-egg-freezing The procedure of egg-…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 05:48 AM
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https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20220816-the-sharp-rise-in-egg-freezing Its becoming more popular and I've heard it before that its not as reliable as people think.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 05:26 AM
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I think its becoming more common.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 04:53 AM
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She might have done but I don't think its common knowledge.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 07:08 PM
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I think its more that freezing embryos is not as reliable as people think. Its very hit & miss.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 07:06 PM
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Men that buy these are never going to get a woman and know it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 04:57 PM
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I know you're being sarcastic but thats exactly what I did. I didn't become a chad but I did figure out how to tall to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 05:58 PM
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Okay so I'm an expat in China. For a foreign guy here the choice here is western expat women who are usually overweight, ultra hot European/Russian girls who won't even look at you unless you're a millionaire, or Chinese girls. So most foreign guys end up with Chinese girls. Anytime I've talked to foreign women about this they're completely convinced that all the guys must have yellow, the idea that men don't like fat women is just something they're completely, possibly willfully, oblivious to.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 05:56 PM
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Like I said; every man I know who started a relationship past his mid 30s is with a younger woman. The stats show that men both find younger women the most attractive and are likely to marry a younger women. All of this is fine just like its fine for women to prefer tall good looking guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 10:52 AM
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Women push for divorce more often but men cheat more often. Im happy that you've found someone who trust, Im just saying women should accept that men havr standards & preferences as well & they are just as valid as their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 10:39 AM
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I didn't say women preferred older men, or at least significantly older men. I think some do but most prefer men around their own age. And men stay in relationships because of love & loyalty, but it might be that a lot of relationships don't work out because the woman loses her looks & the guy starts looking elsewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 10:28 AM
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Because most people marry young-ish with someone their own age and even though older guys want younger they're not all able to get them. But I showed you the stats: when older men remarry its most often with a significantly younger partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 10:17 AM
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By that standard I guess I don't have any unsuccessful relationships. The thing is, when people get divorced or end l9ng term relationships its always going to get messy and end in bad feelings, and the older people get the more likely they are to have had unsuccsessful relationships just because they'll have had more relationships. But the evidence is there, I've shown you it. You're just dismissing it Here's another study you should read: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.psychologytoday.com/us…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 10:04 AM
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But if they weren't divorced.....they wouldnt be dating at all... What do you consider a successful & unsuccessful relationship? I've had a few relationships that ended acrimoniously and a few that didnt, but Im still going out with a younger woman. I don't think Im particularly burnt out on relationships. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1090513814001111 We found that women are interested in same-aged to somewhat older men and that this pattern displays itself across the m…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 09:04 AM
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Statistically older men go for younger women https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2014/12/08/study-men-who-remarry-really-do-prefer-younger-women/ Im sure those older guys were unlucky in love, because if they weren't they wouldnt be single & you wouldnt be dating them.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 08:54 AM
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In my actual life the same thing is happening. Rich & famous guys are still real people.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 08:35 AM
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I don't think they're jaded. Again, just look at all rich & famous guys with younger wives & girlfriends. They can get pretty much any women but they almost always go for the younger women.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 08:21 AM
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Its the same for me, but not the guys who got into relationships after they were about 35+, in those case the guy is always at least 5 years older, and usually closer to 10. Looks aren't everything to men, but they are nearly everything, and everyone peaks in their 20s. So a 35 year old guy is going to go for 25 year old girls, but a 50 year old guy probably thinks 25 year old girls are hot but he'll realise he probably won't be able to get one & if he does he'll have nothing in common with her …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 08:10 AM
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I dont know tbh, but thats not whats happened in my life. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2014/12/08/study-men-who-remarry-really-do-prefer-younger-women/ This study says that older men who remarry tend to go for younger women.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 07:55 AM
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You might think that & it might be true to a certain extent but the evidence is men go for younger women, not women who act young.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 05:06 AM
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Its a lot more common than you'd think. Every single guy I know who got married or got a long term girlfriend over the age of about 35 is with a girl who is someone signifucantly younger. But you're right that not every man will be able to get the kind of woman he wants, bur its still a reality that that is what men want.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 05:03 AM
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You realise you've just said people found your mother attractive because she stayed youthful looking?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 07:21 PM
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Under 20 is probably too young. I think all of us, men & women are the most attractive we'll ever be when we're in our 20s, no one gets better looking as they get older. its just the physical attractiveness is much more important to men than it is to women. Men go for the best looking usually means women in a certain age range.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 07:08 PM
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I disagree. I think Brad Pitt still looks great: https://www.esquire.com/entertainment/movies/a32004836/quentin-tarantino-once-upon-a-time-in-hollywood-brad-pitt-shirtless-scene/ Tom Cruise, I don't know, but he can still make movies where he plays a romantic lead, and people still pay to watch those movies, so that must tell you something. I didn't say they looked young btw, I said they still look good. They look like their in the 50s, but they're still considered leads.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 06:15 PM
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But average woman isn't a Hollywood film star either. And yes, men do lose their looks as well but men can still be considered attractive romantic leads by audiences and women cannot. People like Brad Pitt and Tom Cruise are just about still in their even though they're pushing 60, what woman can you say the same about?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 06:02 PM
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Most women start wanting younger men around age 40 I disagree with that. I've never seen much evidence of it. Look at most male Hollywood film stars who are still considered extremely attractive by women until their 40s or 50s. You can't say the same is true for women film stars.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 05:40 PM
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What do you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 05:31 PM
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Yes, but most dudes in the their 30 and 40s aren't interested in women in their 30s and 40s, but women are still interested in men the same age as them at those ages. Whatever causes people to go for younger partners it happens much sooner and its much more common in men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 05:22 PM
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Its not even wealthy men though. Its all, or nearly all, men who go for younger women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 05:02 PM
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I think historically that's always been the case, there have always been rich aristocratic women with younger male lovers, but its just waaaaay more common for men to do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 04:24 PM
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You wouldn't be saying that if you were a man in a relationship with significantly younger woman. Beleive me, I've had the 'this isn't going to work out', 'you're using her', 'she's just using you', 'You just can't handle real women'* 'You just can't get a woman your own age' schpeil from the overformentioned lonely bitter middle aged women quite a few times.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 02:51 PM
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Tell it to my girlfriend. Every guy I know who got into a relationship over the age of about 35 is with a woman significantly younger than them. Older guys almost always go for younger women. If you don't think that's true explain why so many actors, musicians, millionaires, billionaires, basically the guys who have options, always go for younger women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 02:41 PM
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Its hard not to think single middle aged women are lonely and bitter when they keep raging at men their age who choose to go out with younger women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 02:00 PM
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Bar/restaurant has gone up as well, that must indicate that its a good place to meet people.
/r/AllPillDebate20/12/22 04:50 AM
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I know four guys who are stereotypical chads (tall, good looking, jacked) Two are in LTRs, one of whom is a ridiculous overgrown manchild (I play warhammer 40k with him) One is really friendl humble & a bit shy. One is a typical omnisexual who's over 40 but still fucking every women he meets and living without any cares at all.
/r/AllPillDebate09/12/22 03:56 PM
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Thats exactly right. Its not about hacing standards, its about having realistic standards and being realistic about what the opposite sex finds attractive.
/r/AllPillDebate07/12/22 06:41 AM
1

Now invent an app that unfilters photos
/r/AllPillDebate05/12/22 10:01 AM
1

But it does signify that people are changing, and famine hasn't been a problem in parts of the world for hundreds of years but people have still been getting taller.
/r/AllPillDebate04/12/22 05:32 PM
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Who's to say we aren't? Were you around in the 15th century? We know that people are getting taller with every generation so that must tell you things are changing.
/r/AllPillDebate04/12/22 05:16 PM
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I would guess that most women don't want the kind of men who fuck donkeys.
/r/AllPillDebate07/11/22 04:02 AM
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