notallittakes Archive

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1	Men are not monsters: Last week three of my four boys were herded into school-sponsored assemblies and asked to stand, raise their hands and pledge to never, ever hurt a woman. Their female classmates weren’t required to make a similar pledge. Yep! It's most closely linked to income level, last time I looked. #PoorLivesMatter just doesn't have that juicy identity politics appeal to it, apparently.	/r/MensRights	26/11/15 09:36 PM
2	Men are not monsters: Last week three of my four boys were herded into school-sponsored assemblies and asked to stand, raise their hands and pledge to never, ever hurt a woman. Their female classmates weren’t required to make a similar pledge. The whole BLM/ALM thing is interesting. I wonder, would people be happy if police murdered more people, but mainly whites and asians (and women) in order to balance out the numbers?	/r/MensRights	26/11/15 02:31 AM
3	Why do people hate Men's Rights? Serious replies only, please. They subscribe to the narrative that men don't go through problems, are absolutely in power, or otherwise have no need for a rights movement and should man up and quit whining about feminism. I would describe this as viewing men and women as monolithic entities, and seeing men as 'winning' and women as 'losing'. They will quickly handwave away any individual problem as being 'caused by men', as if that somehow cancels it out. When confronted with a group that wants to seriously talk about these …	/r/MensRights	09/06/14 09:54 AM
1	A man who attempted to rape a woman has been cleared of the charges by a Swedish court after it turned out that the woman he tried to rape was biologically a man. If a man is the victim, it apparently What if a man intends to rape a woman but discovers that she's on her period, and stops? Does he get away with it because he intended to rape a woman not on her period only? The whole logic behind this is deeply flawed.	/r/MensRights	26/03/14 01:32 PM
1	A man who attempted to rape a woman has been cleared of the charges by a Swedish court after it turned out that the woman he tried to rape was biologically a man. If a man is the victim, it apparently There is only an attempt to have sex with a person who may or may not be a child. It's an attempt to have sex with an adult who lied about their identity.	/r/MensRights	26/03/14 01:18 PM
1	A man who attempted to rape a woman has been cleared of the charges by a Swedish court after it turned out that the woman he tried to rape was biologically a man. If a man is the victim, it apparently they are convincing a person who otherwise would likely never go beyond their own fantasies to act on them plz go against your own sense of right and wrong lololol you're under arrest Doesn't quite seem right...	/r/MensRights	26/03/14 01:13 PM
12	Do men really make much more than women for the same job? I should really avoid reading the comments, but... FFS Don’t you realise the comment “males tend to be over-represented in higher-paying fields” is just another way of saying men are paid more? Well, no, it isn't. "Men are paid more" implies that they're paid more for the same work. "Men are over-represented" implies that they're paid more for different work. There's a bit of a difference. I wonder, do they recognise the validity of different pay for different work? In any case, they're missing …	/r/MensRights	11/03/14 02:38 AM
2	this comic is fitting for here .... Abortion is a question of body autonomy. The woman is able to decide whether or not the child is born, because the child is using her body as an incubator. Not disagreeing here, but a theoretical question: why is it that the woman has the right to decide the fate of both bodies, while the child has the right to neither? I have an answer to that, but I'm curious to see how others approach it. In my opinion, the answer to that is critical for the bodily autonomy argument to work. If it were define…	/r/MensRights	10/03/14 11:31 AM
1	Feminist propose massive vandalism against Wikipedia It's goalpost shifting. First it was only problem when it wasn't >50% overall, but now it's a problem when each subcategory isn't.	/r/MensRights	28/08/13 02:24 PM
7	PZ posts link to suicide note on tumblr citing overtly that Michael Shermer is a rapist. Tumblr has no prior post history. You already have plussers calling Shermer a rapist without a trial. They likely take anyone questioning this to be direct evidence of rape culture.	/r/MensRights	13/08/13 03:09 PM
1	Whenever Ive gotten incredibly drunk, I was held responsible for shit I did. You're just repeating yourself. You're not even trying to understand what I said. There is no reason to respond to you anymore.	/r/MensRights	13/04/13 02:50 PM
1	Whenever Ive gotten incredibly drunk, I was held responsible for shit I did. You are saying that you might agree that the levels of responsibility are different. You may agree that the analogy holds someone who is raped wholly responsible? These two statements are COMPLETELY FUCKING DIFFERENT Would you agree that saying that being punched in the head while drunk is the same thing as being punching yourself in the head while drunk is victim blaming? That makes no fucking sense. Go home, you're drunk.	/r/MensRights	13/04/13 02:41 PM
1	Whenever Ive gotten incredibly drunk, I was held responsible for shit I did. You may agree that the analogy holds someone who is raped wholly responsible? How generous of you. Okay, I lied when I said I was done. How the FUCK did you get that from what I said?	/r/MensRights	13/04/13 02:29 PM
1	Whenever Ive gotten incredibly drunk, I was held responsible for shit I did. Okay, I'm done. That is quite obviously not what I am saying at all.	/r/MensRights	13/04/13 02:19 PM
1	Whenever Ive gotten incredibly drunk, I was held responsible for shit I did. The implication was that the drunk person is responsible, in the same way a drunk person that decides to drive and crashes is (wholly responsible). Thats what the analogy said. If you're saying that it's a different level or degree of responsibility (like being responsible for their drunkenness, their location etc. but not the end result) then I may agree.	/r/MensRights	13/04/13 02:09 PM
4	Whenever Ive gotten incredibly drunk, I was held responsible for shit I did. No, lots of people Who? How many? start focusing blame on the victim, what they drank, what they wore, who they were with, what time it was etc. Why does that mean that they don't think that the rapist is at fault? Are you seriously saying that only one person can ever be at fault in any given situation? Also, telling people not to abuse or experiment with drugs doesn't work, a section of the population abuses and experiments with drugs and no PSA is going to change that. Just to be clear, are w…	/r/MensRights	13/04/13 02:04 PM
0	Whenever Ive gotten incredibly drunk, I was held responsible for shit I did. Your examples are dissimilar. Someone knowing that you are drunk and so will be in a deep sleep, and taking advantage of that by sneaking into your room and stealing. That seems equivalent to simply not being there, or not being drunk at all. Someone knowing you are not in your right mind and using that to get you to sign a bad contract. You should probably read up on contract law. Someone recognizing that you are intoxicated and taking advantage of you sexually. The implication here is that you…	/r/MensRights	13/04/13 01:57 PM
5	Whenever Ive gotten incredibly drunk, I was held responsible for shit I did. If there is a cognitive bias towards blaming you for your being raped, or some other thing, its victim blaming. Is it? Isn't it already extremely fucking obvious that the rapist is at fault? Wouldn't it be stating the obvious if every news report said "by the way, the rapist did something bad"? I will note that it seems odd that some people insist on saying "rape is bad" at every opportunity, as if everyone had somehow forgotten. If you are rolled in some way, the last thing you want is some idi…	/r/MensRights	13/04/13 01:47 PM
5	Whenever Ive gotten incredibly drunk, I was held responsible for shit I did. If you get wasted and crash your car thats you being a criminal. If you get wasted and someone capitalises on it and robs you, thats someone else being a criminal. Notice how in the second example, you suddenly stop talking about the victim, as if their responsibility magically evaporated. I can't believe that there are so many people like you that cannot see the difference I don't think loph is saying that there is "no difference", it's just that you're selectively throwing away a person's resp…	/r/MensRights	13/04/13 01:26 PM
12	Whenever Ive gotten incredibly drunk, I was held responsible for shit I did. They call it victim blaming. If I deliberately leave my car unlocked while parked in a poor area and it gets stolen, would it be victim blaming to say that it's my fault? If I decide to run onto a road and get hit by a car, would it be victim blaming to say that it's my fault? If I shoot myself in the face and almost die, would it be victim blaming to say that it's my fault? There is nothing wrong in principle with assigning partial blame to someone for something they are partially responsible f…	/r/MensRights	13/04/13 07:11 AM
22	Whenever Ive gotten incredibly drunk, I was held responsible for shit I did. What you imply by your post title is that in all of those scenarios the drunk girl should've just been left to be potentially raped I thought it was implying that 'society' tends to try and protect women while leaving men to deal with everything on their own.	/r/MensRights	13/04/13 06:48 AM
3	"If you would just shut the fuck up! Shut the fuck up! We should be allies! Shut the fuck up! Shut the fuck up! PATRIARCHY! Shut the fuck up! So we can totally be besties, right?! Shut the fuck up!" U it is the recognition that we(at least in america) live in a society where men are seen(rightly or wrongly) as in charge Are you sure? That would make patriarchy a view of a view, and it would literally mean that patriarchy only exists in the minds of those who believe in it. Assuming the second half only is the true definition: a society where men are seen(rightly or wrongly) as in charge This has problems; different people see different people as being in charge. Which perspective is the most …	/r/MensRights	06/04/13 12:27 PM
8	Study: Men look at women's faces, women look at women's bodies. This may be an example of belief as attire.	/r/MensRights	24/03/13 07:39 AM
34	Study: Men look at women's faces, women look at women's bodies. Freethinkers weren't allowed to question Ah, irony. They probably had some belief like "only a misogynist would question feminism" or "questioning feminism means you think sexism don't real", which itself would have been unquestionable, because only a misogynist would question that, ad infinitum.	/r/MensRights	24/03/13 07:37 AM
11	AVfM has a new graphic in response to "teach men not to rape". This cannot be! SRS told me that this whole subreddit is just butthurt misogynists. Why would they lie?	/r/MensRights	18/03/13 07:10 AM
2	It's sad that people don't get it unless he does this... ShitRedditSays	/r/MensRights	05/03/13 07:23 AM
1	Feminists crucify ten female house members who had the courage to fight discrimination and bigotry, and voted against VAWA reauthorization. The MRM cannot abandon these 10 brave women to the feminist Violence Against Women Act This is a classic example of naming a bill specifically so that you can shame anyone who disagrees with it. (Eg. a stop online piracy act, you can claim anyone opposing it supports pirates). Sure enough: Here’s the list of female members of Congress who voted against protecting women from domestic violence and other forms of violence against women: No, they voted against a bill. There may be many reasons for this. I don't usually agree with conservatives or republicans…	/r/MensRights	02/03/13 10:56 AM
22	Feminists on saying no to sex: " I think that men say no as a way to regain power." Some of the double standards present: Women are entitled to sex, men are not (why should anyone be entitled to sex?) Men always want sex, but women are individuals and only sometimes want sex If a woman declines sex, she's just exercising her power as a woman. If a man declines sex, he must be trying to 'turn things around' or 'regain power' Objectifying men is fine, objectifying women is wrong (again missing the point that people are people and should be treated as such) It seems that she notic…	/r/MensRights	02/03/13 09:23 AM
2	In a high school sexting scandal involving 20 students, the 12 male students have been suspended, while the female students receive no punishment. If you're going to punish them, punish them all. Alternatively, if you can establish that nobody was coerced into taking these photos, then you can write the whole thing off as teens experimenting (as they always do, as much as the parents deny it) and punish none of them.	/r/MensRights	01/03/13 08:30 AM
-2	If feminists completely took over healthcare, what do you think mens healthcare would look like? Well, I ran with the assumption that they would take over health care systems in most of the developed world, but if OP was referring just to US, then yes. Many men would probably be moving to Canada, Europe or Australia.	/r/MensRights	01/03/13 08:06 AM
-1	If feminists completely took over healthcare, what do you think mens healthcare would look like? Given that the radical and extreme types are most likely to be the ones to try any sort of takeover, they would merge "women's health" with "health" policies, then fork off "men's health" and re-shape it into effectively a support system for sperm donation. Funding would then be moved into research for producing female babies without the help of men. Men, now deprecated, would slowly become a smaller proportion of the population. This is the start of the feminist utopia, in which people would ir…	/r/MensRights	01/03/13 07:52 AM
7	My reception as a female MRA When a woman is slim, it is other women who make life difficult for her - not the men. Obviously this is still the patriarchy.	/r/MensRights	27/02/13 01:57 PM
6	r/feminism xpost. Title: "Girl could be expelled from college for creating 'intimidating environment' for her rapist (help share this!)" Real story is: Girl accuses long time ex-BF of rape. School fin and that they actually felt like they should feel terrible because everyone acts like that That is victim culture. Feminists often talk about a "rape culture" that "supports" rape (and they use that word purely to mean men attacking women, of course...it's not like it happens between women or between men or by women against men or by men or women against transgendered people or ...) despite it being universally condemned in western democracies, while ignoring a real problem that they helped crea…	/r/MensRights	27/02/13 01:16 PM
6	r/feminism xpost. Title: "Girl could be expelled from college for creating 'intimidating environment' for her rapist (help share this!)" Real story is: Girl accuses long time ex-BF of rape. School fin I also hate how feminists use that "you will never know what it's like" argument. Anyone in a male prison has a good chance of finding out exactly what it's like. Of course, that whole line of argument just screams "my feels are more important than your feels".	/r/MensRights	27/02/13 12:59 PM
38	Girl who cried Rape And now I can be accused of "victim blaming". Arguably, you can't, since they don't seem to think of it as a crime, they don't seem to be holding anything against the other party, and they don't see themself as a victim. Unfortunately, thanks to victim culture, it may retroactively turn into a horrible crime. ...And now I can be accused of being a "rape supporter" :(	/r/MensRights	27/02/13 12:28 PM
8	1 in 4 Swedish Women Will Be Raped as Sexual Assaults Increase 500% [Is this even true?] I recently read a feminist blog (poor idea...) that repeatedly conflated rape with sexual assault. A commenter who tried to point this out was immediately accused of being a misogynist. Their point was never addressed. Clearly, accuracy is not important, only feels.	/r/MensRights	27/02/13 12:14 PM
1	This is what happens when feminist bloggers learn how to use RationalWiki Well yes. The meaning of "patriarchy" magically morphs depending on the context and who is using it. It's sometimes a social structure, sometimes just an attitude. It sometimes involves actual patriarchs, and sometimes does not. It sometimes talks about actual "males" (ie. people with penises) and sometimes talks about the "male identity" instead (the whole masculinity thing). It is sometimes an actual lack of rights (like not allowing women to vote) and sometimes simply discouragement even if t…	/r/MensRights	27/02/13 11:53 AM
1	This is what happens when feminist bloggers learn how to use RationalWiki God/science fucking damn it. The way they label most or all MRAs as misogynists based on the comments of a few (often angry old conservatives like rush limbaugh who aren't really part of the movement) is fucking infuriating, because it's exactly the same as labeling most or all feminists as misandrists based on a few hateful tumblrs. It's a simple false generalisation and rationalwiki is now fucking full of them thanks to the slow takeover by SJWs who are trying to hijack the atheist movement. I…	/r/MensRights	27/02/13 10:07 AM
24	"We are shocked to learn that the ordinance introduces a gender neutral perpetrator for sexual assault, suggesting that both women and men could potentially be charged with the offence." Rape, as we know, is a crime largely defined as male violence against women That is the problem being solved! That's like saying "we can't legalize pot because it's illegal." with absolutely no evidence of women as perpetrators. As pointed out by another commenter, this is a truism. Remove the genders from the definition, and you'll find documented cases of every combination.	/r/MensRights	19/02/13 08:21 AM
24	"We are shocked to learn that the ordinance introduces a gender neutral perpetrator for sexual assault, suggesting that both women and men could potentially be charged with the offence." keeping marital rape outside the purview of the Act Okay, that's kinda fucked. Raoe is rape, regardless of where it happens and who does it. I'll give them this one. Actually, that's the reason why it isn't included. This change doesn't make it somehow legal if they are married, it just doesn't add it as an explicit separate offence.	/r/MensRights	19/02/13 08:07 AM
6	Sex case defendants 'should get anonymity' - BBC Hiding the name of their perpetrator is just one more way to victimise victims further. The fuck? You know what victimises victims the most? The whole fucking "victim culture" and saying the word victim at every opportunity. Anyway, these groups think that the solution to under-reported crime is to make sure that people are named and shamed prior to guilt being established. Seriously? How will that help? Doesn't publishing the name of the accused potentially expose the accuser? Here's a better s…	/r/MensRights	17/02/13 10:13 AM
2	Sex case defendants 'should get anonymity' - BBC if one complainant comes forward against a person, it might give other people who don't know her - but who went through the same experience - the courage to come forward as well. TIL only women can be raped. When you have anonymity for a rapist or potential rapist, you protect him, you make him what people believe to be a safe person to be with. TIL only men commit rape.	/r/MensRights	17/02/13 10:00 AM
5	Fucking sick of seeing this images everywhere What do you think feminism is about? Short haired angry women on blogs saying they hate men? Didn't I cover all that above? (As an aside, why are you dragging the "short hair" stereotype into this?) I will give you a hint, it's all about wanting equal rights. Didn't you just agree with me above that feminists don't agree on what they want? Why do you act like there is now a perfect agreement? Egalitarianism and the above groups are NOT mutually exclusive. It's not a competition to see which "mov…	/r/MensRights	28/01/13 09:29 AM
4	Fucking sick of seeing this images everywhere So you can see clearly why there's a need for feminism, gay rights, minority rights? The need for equalism is clearer.	/r/MensRights	28/01/13 08:11 AM
7	Fucking sick of seeing this images everywhere That's like saying why are gay rights activists not just people rights. I would say that the former is a subset of the latter. You are aware that they're asking for equal rights? From what I have gathered, feminists can't quite agree on what they are asking for or how they intend to achieve it. Some of them want men involved but some of them hate men. Some of them write long posts on tumblr about how men are superior and they are oppressed, not realising that by further entrenching this idea the…	/r/MensRights	28/01/13 07:57 AM
7	Fucking sick of seeing this images everywhere Wouldn't a supporter of equality be simply an equalist?	/r/MensRights	28/01/13 04:16 AM
7	Borrowed this from r/atheism The difference is that golf doesn't make factual claims without evidence.	/r/MensRights	28/01/13 02:09 AM
11	Borrowed this from r/atheism So, in other words, it's not weird and crazy because he agrees with you?	/r/MensRights	28/01/13 02:05 AM
11	Borrowed this from r/atheism Why do you say that?	/r/MensRights	28/01/13 01:58 AM
8	Borrowed this from r/atheism the fact that they retort with just as much vigor as religion does to opposition puts in the same area as treating their ideas as "immune". that is the issue. No, not quite. A person is only acting like their ideas are immune if they directly attack the fact that you are challenging their ideas, such as by saying "OMG LEAVE MY BELIEFS ALONE". This is very common among the religious but very uncommon among atheists.	/r/MensRights	28/01/13 01:56 AM
7	Borrowed this from r/atheism try telling an atheist that a god exists and that they are wrong. that is critiquing atheism. "You are wrong" is not a valid criticism. they will put up a defense of being 100% right because science. At its simplest, science is a process of gaining knowledge through experimentation and observation. If Science didn't work, reddit would not exist. Science works, plain and simple. Religions usually make claims which cannot be verified or falsified through any process (the formal scientific method, …	/r/MensRights	28/01/13 01:44 AM
11	Borrowed this from r/atheism but because it's tiresome to have to deal with the ridicule. You may want to avoid most of reddit, and the internet in general. It's pretty normal for people holding weird and crazy views to be ridiculed.	/r/MensRights	28/01/13 01:27 AM
8	A simple video that shows what men lose when they experience genital mutilation (NSFW Think health class) You know, the procedure can be performed on adult. It's not like an opportunity is lost if it isn't performed at birth.	/r/MensRights	28/01/13 01:01 AM