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The term incel is reserved for men who are bitter that the women they are attracted to do not like them. It's used for men who are derogatory and mean toward women solely because they aren't being reciprocated. They act like we owe them something. This has nothing to do with being a virgin. Some of them are not virgins, they have only had sex with women they don't think are attractive and mad that they can't get more attractive women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 02:33 PM
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Wierd because they call themselves traditional.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 12:53 PM
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That's not how it works. For example, you don't get to tell me what women's thoughts are.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 02:51 PM
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No one is telling you all to go into debt to get girls. I am going to tell you a secret about financially literate women. We know how much you make at your jobs and can tell you spent too much on your car and it makes you look like a liability. If you're overspending on dates and trying to impress us, we will speak up if we want a future with you because we don't want your debt in our futures. If she doesn't care about your finances and wants you to spend more, she either doesn't care about you …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 08:01 PM
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Are you mansplaining me?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 07:23 PM
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It's a major dislike. We don't want diseases or drama
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 04:38 PM
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You don't think women find it disgusting when a man does it though? Because we do. We definitely consider what type of people your past relationships have been with. I don't touch guys who've banged a bunch of party girls. That's gross..
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 01:56 PM
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Ok sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 06:43 PM
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I'm so glad you got the joke and didn't take it personally lol
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 03:19 PM
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But it's true, men have far more strict rules about who they won't date. When I'm walking around on my major city I see beautiful women with less than stellar guys all the time (poorly dressed and not handsome), but I don't see it the other way around anywhere near as often.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 02:41 PM
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But this is what men say about women lol
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 02:35 PM
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No, they are just struggling to get the girls they want. Most men go for the top 1% of females instead of dating someone equal to them. They are too self important to date anyone who's a little overweight. They ignore perfectly good women that want to date them and then complain on the internet that all the women go for Chad's and don't give them any attention lolol it's clear to me whenever I go outside that men are hitting on women that are way out of thier league.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 12:48 PM
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I just said, if she says no, and you keep pushing it until you convince her, you're a goof
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 03:22 AM
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I'm in Canada lol
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 01:09 AM
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If she has said no and you have to use Andrew Tate type tactics to convince her, that's what you're doing. Good luck when you get to jail. They don't like goofs there.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 04:46 PM
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I doubt it because she has a really important job and has free childcare
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 03:13 PM
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You're advocating for date rape and it's gross. G O O F
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 03:11 PM
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6 years and they are 39 and 41.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 03:11 PM
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Dating app
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 06:06 AM
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My friend has one and loves it so I think you're wrong lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 05:04 AM
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These kids have poisoned thier own brains by reading red pill stuff so they really think they are right about women they've never met. And it's obvious they have never met many.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 04:41 AM
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A dead beat is someone who doesn't take care of his family. He's taking care of his family by staying home and supporting his wife to work. One of my closest friends is a lawyer with a stay at home husband. It works wonderfully for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 04:39 AM
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Yea a run down trailer park in the Appalachias
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 02:05 AM
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You're mad at women for having sex with random men but you're a random men trying to have sex with random women. The hypocrisy is blinding but you're too dumb to see it. Respect women's boundaries and there's no problem on society but you refuse. Just accept that you're wrong and a scumbag.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 05:25 PM
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And I'm just saying, I don't tolerate that type of scumbag disrespect for women's boundaries and I would beat you. That's not a threat it's just real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 05:24 PM
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So you think all those pick up lines and tips to get sex from women and break down thier personal boundaries is what? Normal conversation!? We teach women boundaries while you're teaching eachother how to circumvent those boundaries!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 05:22 PM
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Less women are having sex or getting married because of goofs like you. That's not a fact you might like but according to the CDC that is linked in that article you couldn't understand how to read.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 05:16 PM
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You're a piss ant goof. Do you know what the word goof means? It means a weak man who can't control his sexual urges. Men who are at the mercy of thier sex drive who have no self control and can't do what's good for the greater good because you are selfosh. The kind of man who wouldn't take responsibility for his actions and take care of the kid. You are the reason I decided not to have children with any of you. Congratulations on being a peice of shit and making the world a terrible place for w…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 05:15 PM
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Also get a life and stop commenting here. I'm never going to agree with you that it's ok to coerce women into having sex with manipulation. I'll never agree. It's disgusting low life behavior and I will never admire you or cl you high value for doing that. You are dealing with the wrong women. I've never even been coerced into sex. So you're not going to win here. If we were in person and you tried I would probably beat the shit out of you because that's what I'm known for where I come from. I'm…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 04:51 PM
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So you want to continue this trend and make a bunch of single mothers and then devalue them because they were dumb enough to become single mothers. Ok continue on. Also the CDC says different about gen z women https://fortune.com/well/2023/05/12/are-teenagers-having-sex-cdc-gen-z-situationships-sneaky-links/
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 04:46 PM
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Well, gen z women are not even having sex or kids because men aren't reliable so there you go. I'm a millenial and was a trailblazer and I'm really proud of gen z women for standing up for themselves against you players and low value losers who would rather manipulate multiple women and be macho jerks who expect thier women to be in the kitchen while they also have to work, rather than have a meaningful supportive relationship. You are not doing a good job convincing women to be wives acting lik…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 04:18 PM
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Also I don't have kids idiot. I don't have kids because men are like you and I can't trust thier weak selfish asses to be there and raise a kid.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 02:53 PM
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You're blaming women for the rise of single mothers as if they have that much power. As if it doesn't take a man's dick to conceive one. Men know what condoms are, but they've rather stealth and coerce women into having sex without it. You're a disgusting human and you're ruining society and you deserve it. You want to asset women are the weaker gender and should be in the kitchen but you are going to blame them for ruining society. You can't have both. Are women weaker or are they powerful enou…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 02:51 PM
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No sexual unavailability because of this attitude makes you a loser. It's the attitude. You are a shit person level 1000
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 01:58 PM
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Did you hid your goddamn head? I'm constantly coaching young women on how not to be coerced into sex. Get a grip. You have no clue because you're obviously an incel. Now go downvote all my comment history to make yourself feel better.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 05:33 AM
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You're so lost. The reason for peaking motherhood stats are because of men like this who want to have sex with multiple women and lie to get it, and take care of none of the kids they have. And then blame women for being good hearted and believing the pick up lines. And you're falling for that trope. You're a sucker. Youre buying it and preemptively creating this situation with this shitty attitude. You think women can't smell that? Good luck buddy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 05:23 AM
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I think other men are impressed by this behaviour so essentially they are simping for thier bros. If that's whats important to you then cool.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 04:56 AM
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I've never faked an orgasm to stroke anyone's ego. If they ask me I'll be honest and say I didn't. Sometimes I do it's just not a profound one that is outwardly noticable. I only have good ones with long term partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 08:39 PM
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Yes take notice guys. Casual sex is anxiety inducing for all the reasons listed in this post and it has a low reward if it's not done with someone you have a connection with. Guys who have a lot of women around are feigning the connection with them to get them in bed and that's not cool. It's actually kind of loser behavior so don't even be jealous of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 08:37 PM
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I didn't know any better when I was younger. Like less than 25. But even as an adult I've mostly stayed single because this seems to be the path any relationship I tried was going down.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 04:06 PM
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I didn't know any better when I was younger. Like less than 25. But even as an adult I've mostly stayed single because this seems to be the path any relationship I tried was going down.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 04:06 PM
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Werid because every relationship I've been in, I've been expected to work for them, think for them and take on thier responsibilities. Especially social responsibilities like buying his family's gifts for holidays and birthdays. Just stop.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 03:14 PM
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I 100% agree with this. It's really sad. People only seem to want to connect/make friends with others that have successful networks and would help them meet people. When you're new to a city you can't really offer that and it's been a struggle.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 04:45 PM
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We don't actually do that. You guys just tell eachother that's what we are doing because you really want not being rich to be the excuse when it's really your personality. That's the reason you can't pull women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 04:25 PM
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Aww muffin
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 04:20 PM
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I don't agree because I know a lot of women that are actual bitches and married early. It only came out after marriage when they couldn't keep up the fake high pitched super sweet voice anymore lol
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 09:22 PM
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That doesn't mean submissive at all. It just means a normal person who's not a bitch.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 08:57 PM
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So how to you signal your dominance to your bros then? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 05:20 PM
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Admit you want to be taken care of. You don't want to clean up after yourself or do your own laundry. You want a "submissive" SO to do it for you. You want massages and to be cuddled in bed and taken care of emotionally. You want to be taken care of. You don't want to keep track of your own things either. You want someone else to carry the household mental load for you. That's not submission
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 12:58 PM
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No, men want to be taken care of emotionally and physically and you can't be submissive to do that. They just say they want a submissive SO because that's sounds cool on the internet and thier bros thinks that is cool. But they actually want to be taken care of and do a role switch up in private and devalue you in public to make it appear like you're submissive. It's a joke. Cruel one.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 09:29 PM
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You keep repeating yourself and making me repeat myself and it's boring.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 09:12 PM
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No she wants compensation so she's not accepting it. He's being penalized and fined.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 07:54 PM
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She's not accepting the cheating she's accepting the money.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 06:07 PM
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Who you are as a man is a cheater and liar if you're paying your wife for her silence. It's just a shitty all round situation that wasn't necessary and created by him.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 03:51 PM
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It's not scarier if she's being compensated. But demanding compensation means she's not ok with it. And after experiencing that would probably want to stay single anyway so she can live in a different part of the house and ignore him while making bank. That does not mean she's ok with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 02:34 PM
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He's saying women are ok with it. They are not unless the agreed before marriage. You don't know how much thier husbands paid them to not divorce. That's a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 01:42 PM
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Op didn't show anything but how far thier head is up thier ass
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 11:48 AM
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No you get consent before marriage lol. No mentally healthy woman is going to agree to that when blindsided with it. You're a joke.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 12:17 AM
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That's called an open relationship and requires consent from the other person.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 12:08 AM
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Yes. If he wanted to keep banging lots of women, no one made him get married. He could've not.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 10:35 PM
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He's not a better man if he's cheating. That's it that's all. You're advocating for something that's completely degenerate
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 10:25 PM
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Well your ideals are terrible because if he's cheating there are plenty of better people lol. And if it's just because they don't want divorced status, well then they lack integrity to themselves. That's fucking sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 10:20 PM
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Why would women put up with cheating from some "HVM" as you call them, when divorce is so lucrative in this situation. Don't be stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 09:40 PM
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Oh I know, but you are just trolling because if you can't understand that you're either playing or something's wrong. Either way it's not my problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 05:04 AM
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You're exhausting
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 04:55 AM
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This is a particular thing we talk about on different larger platforms/forums.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 04:50 AM
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Women
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 12:26 AM
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Women file for divorce more often, maybe stop cheating on your wives and that would stop.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 12:26 AM
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Because women are working less because they've had children and have more financial constraints
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 11:51 PM
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Consistent with what?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 11:12 PM
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Yea not being good to eachother when it matters makes the banter intolerable because it seems deeper than banter.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 10:47 PM
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This is accurate
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 10:44 PM
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We also don't want "nice guys" because being nice isn't clearly transactional. You do it to make the person feel good, not to get them to do what you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 10:44 PM
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Those men are not self absorbed and are capable of considering others needs. I think a lot of them struggle with that or are afraid thier bros or internet randoms will call them simps. So they prefer the aloof macho route and simp for thier bros instead. This really all comes down to men being toxic to eachother and then all worrying what the other ones will think. Can't date a fat chick because your bros will make fun of you, kind of thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 10:43 PM
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That's the logic men apply to women though?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 10:41 PM
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So are you guys being rude to women because you expect them to be rude to you? Usually if you start by treating someone well they will treat you well. As long as your definition of good treatment match there shouldn't be a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 10:40 PM
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Depends on your definition of masculine
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 09:41 PM
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Yea but they missed the most important piece. Dropping the macho act that impresses nobody but other men so women might actually want to have thier children. If you can't do that you're a complete failure. I don't care how much money you have. I mean, I'm sure they can manipulate insecurely attached women to have thier children but those women will also make thier lives a living hell lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 06:32 PM
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Yes like one or two dates is all it takes to find out so I wouldn't say they actually dated me or touched me. That's not successful dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 04:49 PM
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Yea I just avoid insecure people in general now. And there are a lot of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 04:19 PM
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Yea some of these guys are taking themselves off the market with that macho bullshit and then blaming women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 04:18 PM
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I have seen it a lot in adult women. Unfortunately
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 03:34 PM
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I think there is some wieght to the fact that women compete, other wise I wouldn't have been blind sided by social drama so often growing up about someone accusing me of trying to steal thier man while I was selling them weed.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 03:27 PM
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Not necessarily. Some women will take shit treatment from HVM while the rest of us think "wow sure glad that isn't me" we would be happier dating someone less successful that is actually nice to us. The definition of high value is different for women, yes being stable and responsible is a factor, because it shows they are reliable, but more importantly how do they treat us? While men define high value with money and success. I've dated a lot of men who seem high value on the outside but interper…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 03:25 PM
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Right when dated the first thing I did was try to guage how deep in the manosphere they are
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 03:23 PM
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As a woman I'd say this is accurate and generally reflects my own feelings and experiences with this.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 03:22 PM
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Me either. That's just a wierd way to think. I know plenty of stand up successful guys who call out deadbeat dads
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 08:03 PM
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The whole pushback of women not wanting to get married is because men think they should be served and cleaned up after and treated special just for being men. Just so you know.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 01:33 PM
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Wow another mansplainer who is projecting their own experiences with attraction and lust onto women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 01:31 PM
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The guys who hit on me care and tell me that it makes me a catch. So grow up and find out. And yes I do look about ten years younger. Women my age get mad when they find out I'm the same age even. Lol Also one guy looked like he might cry when he found out my actual age on our first date lol so yea
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 07:27 PM
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What wall? I've had no drop off in attention. Of anything it's worse. I'm financially stable, fit with no kids. At this age I can have whatever and mostly get hit on by younger men who think I am the same age. Nice try though lol But I'm definitely not interested in men who are more broke than me and spent the last ten years drinking a 6 pack every night.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 06:18 PM
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We decide older men are usually predators when they start hitting on us when we are 16. That being said, now that I'm older, dating older is more appealing. I am trying it and it actually is better but for emotional maturity reasons. And also they know some invaluable things and make good general decisions. The age difference doesn't seem like a big thing when everyone is over 35.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 02:57 PM
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I don't think so because it's in the literature that men think about sex and the opposite sex more often. So it's just not a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 12:02 AM
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Or is it that women spend much less time thinking about men and sex and the attractiveness of men?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 05:49 PM
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Hahah you explained yourself to me. A random chick on the internet. Because your ego made you. Making men write paragraphs
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 07:40 PM
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It became clear to me why you're not getting laid 4 comments ago. You're unwilling to take any advice or learn anything. So why would I continue
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 04:07 PM
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Not just walking down the street though. These numbers come from gangsters. They play in violence and get into violence. But statistically for random attacks? No
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 03:14 PM
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No, you aren't. Check your stats again
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 03:05 PM
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Statistically women are injured by partners and prospective partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 02:56 PM
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Yes everyone is an idiot but you, homer.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 02:37 PM
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Well if you're too afraid to say anything how do you think women feel?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 02:37 PM
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Have you read the title of this thread?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 01:21 PM
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So almost 40 years alive and you still haven't figured out that women know what women want and you should take thier advice? But right, you've made keen observations from your manly POV why would you need that?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 01:14 PM
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So I am definitely older than you and I would love to see your... Data. Anecdotes? Lol nm
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 01:12 PM
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I think you think I'm younger than you lol
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 12:54 PM
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Isn't your incentive access to women? I've literally just told you what would make it easier to do that and you just want to argue and be an incel. Also FYI we aren't inviting men to hit on us by spreading our legs? Do you even know how women work? Social interactions? Are you accusing my of spreading my legs to men prior to them hitting on me as an invitation to do so?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 12:21 PM
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Ok then keep hating women about it like a true incel
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 12:03 PM
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Or you could talk to men you see treating women like meat. Be a man about it and help protect us or just keep blaming us like an incel it's up to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 12:02 PM
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I never said the majority of men are trash. I think you need a therapist if that's what you read. It only takes a few jackasses to make us feel the need to protect ourselves from all of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 11:57 AM
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That's no one's fault but men's. They are the ones who will hit on anything that walks. And be relentless about it, many different men, until women are all traumatized by being approached. So then, they start being more careful which men they allow around. This all happens by the time we are 18. Because we've been being hit on by men much older than us since 16. This is the doing of men and a problem of men. We are just trying to protect our boundaries and sanity by being choosy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 11:46 AM
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I thought you were upset that women get more attention than men, I had no idea you were jealous of your sisters boyfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 11:35 AM
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Men can just stop giving them attention. Talk to your bros
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 11:23 AM
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We don't prefer plastic toys over men, we like men we are emotionally attached to, we don't like hook ups.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 08:30 AM
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Sorry, not sorry
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 11:29 PM
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Not really
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 11:28 PM
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Have what?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 06:34 PM
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This is an explanation for why we aren't having sex so there are no victims here
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 06:14 PM
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Maybe you should learn how.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 06:13 PM
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Maybe you should learn how.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 06:13 PM
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We can't do anything or the sex will be even shorter.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 04:13 PM
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It's funny that some of you think we must be having casual hookups if we prefer to be single since most of you guys suck at sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 03:26 PM
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We aren't doing no. 1. We have vibrators that do a better job than most men so why would we want casual hookups?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 03:25 PM
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There are desperate white women in north America but they aren't exotic enough for some of these guys. So who's shitting on Thai women? These guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 03:07 PM
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So you all have to go to Thailand to find women to respect now? Is it because American women match energies? And Thai women probably just do what you want despite how you treat them because they think you're rich Americans and they are desperate. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 03:41 PM
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You can't have respect for a woman you think of as meat and as smooth as some of you think you are we can always tell.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 02:15 AM
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They typically don't see attractive women as human either. We are meat
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 01:47 AM
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I think they actually really are clueless tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 06:01 AM
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A lot of us who understand money can see through all the shiny stuff. Especially when it's stuff that doesn't appreciate in value. A lot of guys spend more than they can afford on vehicles and other motor toys thinking it makes them look rich, but to some of us it just makes them a liability. Messed up priorities.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 01:41 AM
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So? I'm jealous of men too.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 09:06 PM
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Dude
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 12:52 AM
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I agree social damage but I was also referring to the economic threat.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 11:24 PM
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His stance was that Russia was too afraid of the US to invade Ukraine. I guess he didn't know about the limitations the US has under NATO. Like I really don't think he knew how any of that worked at all. Just believed the remnants of all the cold war propaganda that the US is a military superpower. Still some people don't even consider India and China as threats. But NATO knows, that's why they are bargaining with India, for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 11:08 PM
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Yes, he was insecure about his looks because he got his nose broken as a political prisoner in his own country. We broke up because he was also insecure about my intelligence and told me that my western university has brainwashed me (right wing, loves Trump and America only because the Iranian regime hates them). He really though he was an expert in geopolitics, and he probably is about the area he originated. But his predictions failed and I was always right (especially when it came to Russia i…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 07:12 PM
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Hey I've been consistently considered an 8 and used to party as much as the average person in university.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 02:20 PM
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No I'm not going to name or degrees of seperation drop but I find a lot of them too egotistical to actually have meaningful connections, and therefore don't actually have any useful social skills outside of thier whole public identity. If you think they have good social skills it's because you met the person they wanted you to meet. That's the only thing they are good at socially. Acting.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 10:37 PM
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This right here. And some want to only be in the presence of people that are using him because they'll never call him out for being shitty. I also don't think they have better social skills. Not sure where you're getting that from.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 10:21 PM
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No, we won't. Absolutely not. I just raged at one for being dismissive. For like a week. I don't care how much money he has. Tbh I'm still raging.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 10:19 PM
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See there ya go, I said it was common. It's not the only behavior they have but common lol but you're hearing "all men"
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 05:57 PM
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Men in my experience generalize. They have a hard time separating the behaviour from the person and the whole gender in general. If you ever try to address a behaviour with them, it's very common for them to think we are saying they suck in general, so they get defensive and start being passive aggressive. This is extremely common.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 05:02 PM
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Try being a woman and having to interact with men in specific ways. There are so many common behaviors. For example, the amount of married men I've been hit on in my life, even just before 25, didn't really make me want to get married. I've never even been cheated on and I have second hand infidelity trauma from that. And I still experience this behaviour at 40.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 04:57 PM
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Do they actually hate men or do you just think that because they have explained common male behavior that they don't like and you're defensive?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 03:18 PM
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Haha nice try
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 10:04 PM
1

Yes women have always worked. Women in my family have always worked. But generally speaking more women went into the workforce during those events
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 01:54 PM
1

That's some good insight too.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 11:19 PM
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Yea that makes sense to me. Agreed. I also think it's become more about trying to take power than be equivalent. And I don't want any job because of affirmative action I want them on merit.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 11:09 PM
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A lot of the dating and relationship advice men are being given are only going to be tolerated by women with insecure attachment who are prone to trauma bonding. Most guys don't want that but those "AlpHa" dudes on the internet are ok with that because they seek control, not relationships. So when you follow this advice you'll start believing all your exes are crazy. Source is my psych degree.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 08:28 PM
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Well I guess wel will never know because the history of how it happened is the history and we can't change that. But it's fairly terrible for all these boys on the internet to be blaming their ancestors and grandmothers for the fact that they can't get valued in a relationship. Women are telling men constantly what they value and you all just puff your chests out and be macho instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 07:01 PM
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Let's be real here, if it wasn't for world war 1 women would have never been considered an integral part of the workforce which didn't even happen until WW2. And that was just women stepping up to the plate when it was required of them. And again in the 70s when you had even more women going to work was because the US economy was crashing and husbands were getting laid off. So again that was just women stepping up to the plate and I'm willing to bet a lot didn't even want to. And the waves of fe…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 06:40 PM
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When did women have that much power though? Also I know a few women who are the breadwinner with stay at home spouses or spouses who work part time and do most of the parenting. One of them though, still has to fight with the guy to get him to do anything other than play video games. And she's a lawyer so he's always going to lose that fight but still tries lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 05:58 PM
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It's worse because only one gender has accepted and adapted to how society and the economy has changed. Feminism gave women the tools to adapt. And men are just upset by having to do housework so are now MGTOW
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 05:32 PM
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Absolutely not. My cat is 13 years old and deserves to age in the home he's known. The guy can just wait. I'm not so irresponsible that I would throw away something I love just for a guy I may or may not be able to trust or last with.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 03:54 AM
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Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 09:46 AM
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Most of these guys are leaving behind a trail of women who hate them and would fire bomb thier houses if they had nothing to lose. Is that what you actually want for your life?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 07:43 PM
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Because they lie to women to get them in bed. They mislead and emotionally abuse women for thier own gain.. you don't think women are agreeing to sex with people without promises or at least being made to feel like they can trust the guy when they actually can't? Like you really think women are just put sleeping with good looking randoms for no reason? Because we aren't. We are usually being manipulated into it. Just so later guys can comment on the body count incurred while believing these douc…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 07:40 PM
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Exactly
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 03:53 PM
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The needs I'm referring to are the ones people need from a relationship. Emotional reciprocation, respecting boundaries they need. Why be in a relationship if you can't do that with your partner. If they don't respect your boundaries or care about how you feel?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 02:03 PM
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Well yea, the abuse and harassment and indifference to our needs makes us not really care about relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 12:47 PM
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I agree. Half my family is in Poland and I've noticed this.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 03:27 AM
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A lot of the models you see on IG are actually sex workers using it to promote themselves. So self objectifying. And younger women see these accounts and don't realize it's sex worker promotion and then do the same thing for free.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 01:22 PM
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Exactly
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 08:19 PM
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I won't date anyone who lacks self control, is arrogant and dismissive. But these guys don't act like that until they think you're invested. So no women don't like bad guys, bad guys lie and misrepresent themselves. They behave differently in front of other males, that's why males know this and are confused about why women would like these guys, you all don't realize they don't show women the same guy they show other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 06:11 PM
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The person you get depends on how you treat them. If they are happy and bubbly when you meet and become something else, it likely has to do with how you treat them. Personality isn't static and can change with environment
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 01:42 PM
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Not all conservative people are red pill extremists. And not all of the ones who are communicate that right away.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 11:04 AM
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Not exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 11:03 AM
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That would make them promiscuous women though
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 12:10 AM
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It takes a while to find out people are hypocrites unfortunately
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 07:21 PM
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Yea but they don't, they just try to turn wholesome women into promiscuous women...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 06:58 PM
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Because men with options don't want promiscuous women but still want sex so who are they getting it from? Wholesome women they have lied about thier intentions to
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 06:44 PM
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Men who want sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 06:39 PM
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In relationships we are supposed to trust eachother so what you're saying is women are stupid to get married and we've gone full circle and that's why men aren't getting laid because they can't take responsibility and women want nothing to do with this deflection of responsibility. Men are all weak and at the mercy of thier urges and won't take responsibility for themselves. Thanks for summarizing.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 06:23 PM
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Right so just lie to the wholesome ones to get sex and then the wholesome ones will hate all men. Good plan. Also f you
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 06:11 PM
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No one forces anyone to get married Except societal expectations and men who promise the world and give you nothing but a shit life and bad treatment and make jokes about how they hate thier wives because they get asked to do chores.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 06:06 PM
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You kids have all been listening to the dads version of events "oh she won't let me see my kids" yea because you don't pay child support or are violent, but they won't tell you that part. Just "oh poor me my baby mama is so mean", as if he's not a man living in a man's world now suddenly he's the victim. Lol get eff'd
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 03:28 PM
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Where is the dad? Why isn't he around? Is that the woman's fault? Haha if he tried to take it to court he would have access. And if he did take them to court to see them and lost its because he has a violent history. So there's that
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 03:27 PM
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Thats right, they witnessed the whole marriage before the dovorce
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 02:44 PM
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Women are getting divorced because they can't work full time jobs because our economy has required that since the 90s, when divorce rates skyrocketed , and also be the only ones who care what's going on in the home. It's easier to be a single mother than it is to be married to a macho guy who thinks housework is for women. Hope that helps. Women are not getting divorced to play the field. They get divorced when thier husbands step out because they are tired of thier wives asking them to take out…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 02:17 PM
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God forbid men do anything for women to convince women to take care of them for the rest of thier lives. If you all didn't think you should be served in marriage we wouldnt expect you to convince us to do that by paying for dates. Do your own laundry. If you all don't want to be traditional don't be expecting us to wait on you and be traditional
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 12:25 PM
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I think more men should just use escorts instead of lying to regular wholesome women to get sex. But they won't do that because it's more of a conquest to lie to good ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 11:51 AM
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Feminists aren't doing this lol. This is a trope designed by men to make men hate feminists. Most women are not this promiscuous unless they are mentally ill because promiscuity doesn't really benefit logical women. At all.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 11:50 AM
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They are because they misrepresent themselves as conservative to attract mates and it takes a while to find out who they actually are. By then the woman could have trauma bonded or something and the man also has everyone else believing he's a conservative value person so it's confusing for the women. They get stuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 09:11 PM
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I also find men who are loud about being conservative to be actually the least conservative and engage in more hedonistic debauchery than liberal men to. Conservative men also seem to act without conscience when it comes to sex. All of this is a huge turn off for all women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 09:06 PM
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We figure it out in a few months and then decide that men aren't worth it and now subs like this exists for you to pretend you never do anything wrong because you can't get a girlfriend to gaslight.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 07:01 PM
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Yes so blame women for being good hearted and wanting to believe people and expecting there to be a decent man out there somewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 05:53 PM
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You all engage in some form of gross hedonistic debauchery and it's wild to me that any of you think you're better than the others. Some of you just hide it better
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 05:52 PM
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I was raised in a toxic household but with outside influences that were not toxic. I was able to realize I was picking up some toxic behaviours by the time I was 20 but didn't start to heal until I was almost 30. And I'm still working on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/23 08:39 PM
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Have you seen the crusty dudes who have multiple women commenting about bad experiences with them? Crusty af. Let's not forget the crusty dudes who get posted with women saying "he's cheated and lied before but things are good for about a month I just want to make sure before we MOVE IN TOGETHER" all I got from that group is that pretty women put up with and overlook far too much bad behaviour from the ugly dudes that get posted.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/23 06:57 PM
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I didn't read that in this post at all
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/23 08:03 PM
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3,5,7,10,11
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 12:32 PM
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No the second one validates that men in general are the issue, because instead of adapting to what women need in a relationship, because they have already adapted to the current world, men just blame women for not being able to pair up. You have no idea how many times I've been accused of ruining the economy. Like as if women ever had that much power lol
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 01:28 PM
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No it's still true to say that they can't find a man to commit because they can't find a suitable man to commit.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 11:35 AM
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It is so true that if women get cancer or are injured it's the first thing practitioners prepare you for. I was single when I had my accident but it was one of the first things they brought up and told me why they asked and many women I know have had the same experience during illness and the practitioners weren't wrong. They did leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 11:09 AM
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That's assuming the husband was good with money. You don't know how many women have divorced from high earning husbands and got nothing because the lifestyle and then showing off to thier bros.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 11:06 AM
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Nursing homes are already full and full of people's who's families don't visit. Men drop dead of heart attacks. Men usually leave their wives if they get sick. There's no guarantee your kids will like you. Marriage is no guarantee you won't be by yourself when you're old. This is part of the reason women don't marry. Because you lose your career potential just to end up alone but poor.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 09:02 PM
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As for number 2, are we supposed to settle down with men who's personalities are incompatible or just annoying just because the like us? Seriously? Or they are a little creepy? Or just not self aware and total main characters? That's what you want us to do?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 08:18 PM
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You know what, this is super accurate and I also want to add that us women all can tell that you're acting. I've even had to tell guys on first dates to cut the shit and be themselves because it wasn't flattering. You guys worshipping these internet shamans for advice is not doing you any favours at all and I don't get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 02:16 PM
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Other than being seen as a piece of meat while you're trying to excel in your career as a woman, sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 05:48 PM
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Thanks for saying this. I wanted children but couldn't find a man I could trust to pull thier weight and not make me a working Bang maid so I didn't. The argument was always that they made more money even though we worked the same hours. If that's why you don't want to do housework or think you shouldn't, you can hire someone to do your share Mr. Money bags. Or live alone and do it ALL yourself. And none of those guys ever did get married. One has a "commitment partner" and they did the ceremony…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 02:51 PM
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There's a whole lifestyle that goes with being promiscuous so I can understand people using that as a standard. Even as a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 02:12 PM
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Because men use pick up artist control tactics and think we don't know instead of just being nice. I can serve breadcrumbs too
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 04:57 PM
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No but it's not a great generalization you're making.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 01:12 PM
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Not true at all. The men I'm most comfortable with have always been on the chubby side. Ngl And always smarter than me.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 11:02 PM
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Divorce benefits women if they weren't working as much as you because they were taking care of you and your family. Marriage benefits men so they can focus on thier careers. It's fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 01:56 PM
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You can't do a little work while dating to try to convince a woman to take care of you forever? You need to make it a good deal for women. Women sacrifice a lot for long term relationships, that why you have to do the heavy lifting to convince her to do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 01:39 PM
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That never happens. I've never had that happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 08:11 PM
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Well if not then there's baggage keeping them from actualizing thier potential and we aren't your therapists but you'll try to make us one.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 03:51 AM
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You'd be surprised at the crusty guys who seem to have multiple women strung along.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 03:50 AM
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I personally don't care about porn. Or even IG models (seems to be a big topic lately). I do think commenting on IG models is a bit delusional and embarrassing for the guy though. But it's not infidelity
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 03:49 AM
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You'd be surprised the men men who seem to be able to pull multiple women at once. Really
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 03:47 AM
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"don't get updates on this" is a great option on Reddit lol
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 11:16 PM
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Were you there? Lol stop claiming you know what traditional was back then.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 11:12 PM
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Stop being so triggered
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 11:12 PM
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Have you been in the "are we dating the same guy?" Groups? No? They exist for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 11:11 PM
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Lol, it's definitely a factor, the added fragile masculinities make those things a nightmare.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 11:11 PM
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Have you tried therapy?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 10:49 PM
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Speak for your own grandmother. Mine was out playing bridge with her legion ladies and getting her hair done to go to Legion nights while my grandpa worked long shifts.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 10:45 PM
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It became about love for the peasants who wanted to model royal marriages, since they did not have wealth. So unless you're wealthy and marrying wealthy, you better change your attitude
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 10:44 PM
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Fragile masculinities do t have to be assumed. It's in thier thought patterns they share with us and thier behaviour. If it's ingrained you can't hide it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 10:42 PM
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I had a lot of growth and therapy since then and choose better partners now lol
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 10:38 PM
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The rules are already set out, and they involve love and respect. We don't need your extra rules lol
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 10:36 PM
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Thanks for the validation. That's literally all women want tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 10:30 PM
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Actually the nuclear family isn't that old in history and is borne from religion and the need to control wealth. That's why cousins were married before we knew about genetic defects. It had nothing to do with love and everything to do with keeping money and power in the family. Next.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 10:29 PM
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It's the truth. And it seems to have triggered you. You don't need to have a family and I would advise against it for you. Women have been taking birth control for years to evade men like you. You can have a vasectomy if being responsible for your family would make you so angry and controlling. Families are supposed to be taken on with loving kindness and understanding. You will fail with this attitude.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 10:28 PM
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You're delusional and very wrong. Again, good luck, you're going to need it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 10:26 PM
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Most men don't have the emotional intelligence to realize that what they are doing would upset thier wives the same way it would upset them if thier wives did it. That's the issue. I'm glad you can be receptive enough to understand this.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 10:25 PM
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Wow nicely said.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 10:23 PM
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I think men just complain out loud more and it's a turn off for women. They complain about everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 10:22 PM
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You choose to be responsible for a family though. You don't have to. Women also don't have to date controlling men. Bye lol
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 10:20 PM
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You might be right and it might have been egocentric of me to project myself onto most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 10:19 PM
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Women are seemingly masculine when they are stressed out and aggravated. And with that attitude, even if she isn't when you meet her, she will be lol
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 10:14 PM
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You're talking about controlling women's lives though. In this economy. Again, good luck lol You'll probably be successful with a woman who has insecure attachment and mental health issues. But is that really what you want?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 10:12 PM
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Not necessarily. Men try to have side bitches that also can expose them and make men lose thier families and jobs. Smart ones won't risk it but some have egos the size of freight trains and think they can get away with it and lose everything
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 10:11 PM
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Right? So many men could have it all if they just got over themselves and learned to do a bit of housework. But they stay fighting this losing power struggle battle.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 10:09 PM
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Constructive criticism is much different than the shit Tate and his followers are doing, for example. That's what I'm referring to.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 10:08 PM
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What? Setting boundaries is not trying to control others. You really need to learn about respecting and having boundaries. I'm actually worried for you after this comment. Good luck bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 10:07 PM
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We can date older lol. And no, not all men are driven by the idea that they need a fresh 18 year old every 10 years. And some men are in positions of power and can't embarass themselves in the post-me too era.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 10:05 PM
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I'm sorry but we need two incomes in this economy and if you can't accept that when a woman works she's going to need control over herself and her time and home tasks, and she will be stressed and not as soft and feminine as you want, then don't date. Forever alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 10:03 PM
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Yes, I didn't realize he was wealthy until I already decided I liked him tbh. He sent me an email from work that made me feel embarrassed about having so many opinions about things he turned out to be an expert in.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 09:58 PM
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Everyone in my family in academia makes more than enough. I'm not talking wealth here I'm talking stability. But your def right about RE guys. But the rich ones started out as investors and just became RE agents to cut out the middle man. And wall street bros are actually interesting for me because I work in that industry historically. And he's smarter than me.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 09:55 PM
1

Oh here we go lol who even told you this drivel?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 09:50 PM
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Usually after experience though, so they have given them a chance and they don't use that chance we'll because they can't get over themselves. I'm almost positive most women would date for love rather than money until they realize if they have to deal with a mean man they better at least be rich and sexy. I'm not letting a turtle try to devalue me ever again lol
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 09:48 PM
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You can be nice and have boundaries. Please try to learn what boundaries really mean. If she doesn respect your boundaries then she is not nice. Move on. Having boundaries helps you weed these users out. Both genders
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 09:46 PM
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Also, you sound like a great catch and good person and I'm sure you'll find what you're looking for.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 09:45 PM
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It is self sabotaging and also really sad to witness. Because they have so much potential.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 09:44 PM
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It's not always true that more intelligent people make more money but there is definitely an association. And if they are intelligent and not successful there is likely a lot of baggage they are not learning to deal with or refuse to. We don't want to take that on either. We aren't trying to be therapists.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 09:43 PM
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Sorry I meant I found one who never seems to feel inadequate
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 09:41 PM
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I'm in Canada and figuring out how far into the manosphere men are is a big part of dating here. We all have questions we ask on first dates to rule these men out. Some will lie but it comes out in thier behaviour pretty quickly. Breadcrumbing and negging are the two top behaviours we watch out for.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 09:35 PM
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I did that with success. But it's still sad watching young men get swayed by JBP and Tate thinking this is the way.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 09:33 PM
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Oh right, how could I? Any money they get they spend on themselves while I'm buying household stuff for everyone. No thanks. In my generation it was motor toys and hunting. In this new one it's gaming equipment they spend on while they ruin my sheets and towels.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 09:32 PM
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This whole comment sounds like a fragile and anxious reaction to what I said. Women do it to but we are talking about men here. I literally said "everytime I've dated down" which means I gave them a chance but they blew it by being mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 09:26 PM
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It's definitely more likely from men who feel inadequate and haven't learned to internalize that and improve themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 09:24 PM
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Depends how you act on your insecurity. If you turn it inward and try to improve it's not a problem. If you take it out on others, especially your partner, that's an issue. Both genders make this choice everyday. The ones who work on themselves do better in life in general. When turned inward your more likely to get support from people, including your partner, to improve. When lashing out youll get left in the cold.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 09:21 PM
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What I'm saying is men have to learn to be comfortable when they are wrong of they want to date someone with higher intelligence. And that's hard for both sexes to do. I know a lot of women who don't like being wrong either. But I think the added expectations of some men that they will always be in control and have the final say is what they can't get past.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 09:12 PM
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Multiple experiences because I'm almost a genius lol
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 09:05 PM
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Not many man have that much respect for women anymore though. Because of people like Tate etc. Telling men they have to use control tactics to get women instead of just being nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 09:05 PM
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We don't like dating men who make or accomplish less than us because we don't like being a target outlet for your fragile masculinities. Every time I have dated down, they get insecure about my accomplishments, especially when I am congratulated in public. They will always try to "put me in my place" with devaluing and negging comments. Not only that, but if they are less accomplished it usually means they have lower intelligence. And God forbid we help them or stop them from making a mistake or…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 08:45 PM
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It doesn't have to be that way. If they would stop taking advice from people like Tate and basically neg and devalue the women they are with and do control tactics to get them to trauma bond instead of just being nice to them. The only type of women that works on is women with insecure attachment and other mental health issues. And then it's toxic and they'll say all women are crazy. Because they have only experienced women who accept terrible treatment.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 02:01 PM
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The only women I have know to be attracted to older men have serious personality or mental health issues. This works for some older men who want the young woman to have insecure attachment as it can be a form of ego boost, but that makes it even more gross and embarrassing for the men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 04:49 PM
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Then we can both do our own laundry as a team. That's how you support eachother so we can both focus on our careers.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 06:38 PM
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We know
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 02:36 AM
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If he makes more per hour then he can pay for a laundry service. If I'm working the same hours I'm only doing my chores. He can pay to have his done if he wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 01:33 AM
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It doesn't matter how much they make per hour. If they spend the same amount or similar amount of time working they should split household chores. I don't give a fuck if he makes more. I will leave and then you can court ordered pay me the difference and keep doing all the chores myself, but less because I'll have one less child. And more money. Pick your battles bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 01:32 AM
1

Not just a sex life from before they met, but possibly a better sex life before they met. That's the real issue
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 04:39 PM
2

Not just a sex life from before they met, but possibly a better sex life before they met. That's the real issue
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 04:39 PM
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I always thought it was because they are insecure and are worried that a previous partner might have been better than him.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 04:38 PM
2

We've needed two incomes since the 80s. It's been 30 years since we have been in a world where we can traditionally split household chores. But the only ones adjusting are women, and they are adjusting by picking up your slack. And they are tired of it. And I've never asked a man to change a lightbulb. What planet are you on? And you're not even doing the man's chores anymore. None of you even know how to change oil and your caluses are from your video game controller. Give me a break. You all w…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 11:45 AM
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I was not referring to health issues. But if we want to talk about that, women tend to hide thier health issues because we are warned by our doctors that our husbands will leave us if anything serious comes up. Because it's in the literature. Men leave thier wives if they get sick because we can't dow all of those things anymore. I'm not taking care of anyone only to have them leave when I need taking care of.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 12:25 AM
0

I don't think peri menopause happens until around 50
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 12:22 AM
5

We aren't unhappy. I'm more stressed out and unhappy when I try to date.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 09:32 PM
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Also, when men become dependant on women to manage thier belongings "honey where is my____?" thier laundry, grocery shopping , all the household mental load, etc, they start to view them as children and become less sexually attracted to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 08:00 PM
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No I mean, women continue to have respect for men they date, where men start treating women as objects and being disrespectful. They put zero effort because they are afraid of being fooled again and then don't understand why women don't like them
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 07:54 PM
1

I have never dated a Chad if that's what you're trying to say. One guy named Chad but he wasn't the stereotypical Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 12:43 AM
1

The pattern is, I correct them or stop them from making a mistake once, they google it, see that I'm right. And then forever after try to catch me being wrong or making a mistake in a sore winner petty type of way. And they keep being wrong so they get more and more petty. And like, I'm just trying to help them. And I try to do it as nicely as possible. But it keeps happening. I've been reading a wide range of journals daily for 25 years. This is bound to happen. I have no idea what I'm doing wr…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 12:39 AM
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I don't feel that here. My feelings are constantly invalidated on this sub. Biggest mistake a man can make with a woman and creates toxicity
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 01:30 PM
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And men are so sensitive that one bad experience at 16 messes up all thier future expectations in relationships. Women keep trying and that's why you hear them saying "all men"
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 01:29 PM
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Oh and heaven help a woman who is smarter than her SO. Many petty battles will ensue lol
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 01:03 PM
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Um, it's actually that men prefer women who are less successful and make less then them because they prefer to be dominant. Most men are made insecure by women's accomplishments and the fact that they make more. This is in data and my own lived experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 01:02 PM
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I don't think this is true. I see many women dating down and putting up with bad treatment from men who are beneath them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 12:52 PM
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How? Are you trying to say I deserve to be treated in a rude and dismissive way? And we've never met. This is why you're single.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 11:21 AM
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Is not being rude and dismissive to women akin to putting our needs first? Do you need to be rude and dismissive?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 11:20 AM
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Are you telling me what I'm attracted to? Mansplaining? Ewe.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 11:19 AM
1

Why would I want to do that?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 11:18 AM
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I've not met one man who does this. They prefer to devalue us into submission. Which always backfires and then they become bitter incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 02:28 AM
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I don't think women expect men to put our needs before their own, we just want you to consider those needs at all. Even a tiny bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 02:27 AM
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So you're doing wifey stuff for someone who won't commit? LOL.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 02:26 AM
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They pedestalize and ignore all cues to who we actually are because we are pretty. And then when they realize we aren't going to be submissive they get mean because we've disappointed them lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 02:24 AM
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That whole first paragraph is describing ways to not respect people's boundaries. If she says no, leave her tf alone and don't waste your time and stress her out.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 02:23 AM
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It doesn't have to be this way but the male heteros are stubborn and won't give up thier perceived dominance. Like why does this have to be a power struggle. Why can't they just let it go?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 01:51 AM
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Why would I need a relationship though? Relationships are a bad deal for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 10:57 PM
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We aren't lonely. We have female friends and vibrators. You all are bad at sex anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 09:58 PM
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Why exactly is it unrealistic to be nice? What? Most redpill advice involves trying to dominate and manipulate women. Therefore, the only women you'll get are low self worth with insecure attachment. And they will have all the mental health issues to go with that, need constant reassurance, which means it will be stressful relationship. and then imagine having more than one of those women to deal with. The rest will see right through you.. So are assholes really successful with women? Maybe in t…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 08:32 PM
1

You seem triggered.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 10:59 AM
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It's too bad men don't put a similar effort into hygeine and appearance
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 01:47 PM
1

If you don't get my point after all the comments I've made I think your too thick to get it and I'm bored of you. You're useless
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 10:11 PM
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😂 nice try simp
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 07:56 PM
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That's not the point. You've missed it entirely
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 07:55 PM
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😂 even if we got married at 22 we could still have cats and die alone so. Most men leave women if they become ill and there's no guarantee that your kids will be proper, not die or just hate you and not care. After my car accident one of the first things they asked me was if I was married to be prepared for him to leave me. Friends I've had with cancer were told the same thing and it did happen. It's also in the literature. So they spent thier live taking care of people who abandoned them when t…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 07:32 PM
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Well I mean, there's nothing wrong with taking care of yourself and being ambitious. Women who are looked over for plenty of physical reasons too I hear.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 07:30 PM
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It's probably more that they don't want the man rather than can't retain them tbh. And then we can't get rid of them for years after. They keep trying to pop up.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 07:28 PM
2

What you are describing are very unhealthy expectations.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 05:55 PM
2

It's not our job to do that. You are deluded about what relationship are.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 05:55 PM
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It's not our jobs to add value to your lives when you are just a drag on our lives. Marriage has no benefit for women if men are going to play the role of a helpless child. There are even studies that show women lose attraction to men who don't do thier own basic tasks, women start to see them more as burdens and an extra child. And you can't shame us into not feeling that way like you're attempting to do now.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 05:52 PM
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It's a big market of grifters out there giving men bad advice. JBP, Tate, the list goes on. They all want you to pay for and buy something and you all keep getting suckered. I'm almost positive men who have a good sense of right and wrong can figure it out for themselves better than what these meatheads are saying to fluff thier own ego's. Or asked trusted people in your own real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 05:43 PM
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So can't you listen to yourself? You can't think for yourself? You need to be a follower?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 05:16 PM
2

So who cleans a man's house when he lives alone? Does his mom come over and do it? 🫣
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 05:15 PM
1

Why do men desperately need someone famous to follow?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 02:10 PM
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They are just as happy about it as having to do his laundry and clean the bathroom after him, but they have to do it. So why not the oil? Or get rid of the man, do the oil and not have to clean his pee.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 01:49 PM
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10 seconds? Ha
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 05:57 AM
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And then, because they don't clean, or know how to put anything away, it's always "where is my..?" "Can you find my..?" Like I'm not your iCloud man, I can't be your whole memory and thought cloud. Figure it out.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 02:47 AM
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No lol cutting grass was even a chore I had to do as a kid 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 02:43 AM
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They are already doing that, she could do less laundry, less cleaning if he wasn't there. So all she would have to do is go to work and clean up after herself and kids. Remove the manchild from the situation and life gets easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 11:32 PM
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Um, women took up the call to go to work to help thier husbands in the 70s when the economy went to shit. We didn't want to do 90% of the housework while also working lol are you for real? You must be under 25 because I know you all blame women for the fact we can't live like the 1950s. But the truth is that economy was always unsustainable. We literally didn't ask for this. But with the amount of men walking out on thier kids, they also kinda had no choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 11:30 PM
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We do all those things AND his laundry though. I could be happier living alone and not having extra housework to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 11:28 PM
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Yes the worst men I've ever lived with had stay at home mother's and they lived with thier parents until moving in with me. The mother's were also insecure about my working and tried to put down my ability to take care of the home but also accusing me of trying to be a gold digger, while working. Who needs that lol
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 11:27 PM
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Lol what else would they have to do that they aren't already doing. I even changed my own oil and did his laundry. I've also done renovations on my own. The honey-do lists women make are only a desperate attempt to even out the task load.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 11:25 PM
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We actually just aren't attracted to qualities that make us into slaves at home. We need two incomes now. Everyone works, but only men think they don't have to do things at home, for some reason. Ask yourself "would I have to do this if I lived alone?" If the answer is yes, then just go do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 06:07 PM
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You'd be doing the same hard labour to pay your own bills and then also having to do everything at home if we weren't there though. Remember that. Having a woman doesn't mean you don't have to do basic life skills anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 06:06 PM
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No, we don't want traditional men. We want men who will do thier own laundry and do the lawn as if we weren't there. Like clean up after yourself. You'd be doing that by yourself anyway if we weren't there.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 06:05 PM
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This just teaches women that if they are special the bad boy will work out for them. And individualistic society teaches us that we are all special. So women take that risk..
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 02:00 PM
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All you're proving here is that bad boys are predatory manipulators and liars, but you will all blame women for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 01:57 PM
1

So you think all women are secret whores? Just showing how mentally ill you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 01:45 PM
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What comments from women? The ones saying we won't be doing housework all evening while he's drinking a six pack in the garage when we both work?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/23 03:25 PM
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They just cut themselves out of the dating pool and want to blame women. Don't they realize we can read all the things they post online and we always know any one of them could lying about being one of these guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 12:21 AM
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No one is manipulating anyone. It's not a game. Stop playing
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 11:59 PM
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You're a hero.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 04:07 PM
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The guy I'm currently dating doesn't even know what a simp is, he knows none of these manosphere terms. That made him a strong contender. And you're right, he's just too busy to care.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 04:06 PM
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I dated a guy who was becoming one of these guys and I developed a disdain for bitter men myself. It's not unlike the popular pick up artist shit of the 00s though. They promoted disgusting behaviour like negging, which is also applied in the Andrew Tate realm. I have had therapy to be able to recognize and avoid these types of behaviours and motivations and I'm better for it and am able to pick better dates. Much to the disdain of these incel manosphere types because they are basically making t…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 04:05 PM
2

There are a lot of men out there who would be a lot more attractive if they put any effort into thier appearance at all. Women put a lot of effort into appearance. Men expect that but don't do the same for themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 06:50 AM
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It's simple. If you don't want a girlfriend and you don't want to enmesh with women, stop acting like a boyfriend. Even if there's an agreement for FWB, it gets all muddled up when you start spending all your free time at her home and using her resources. She's going to expect something in return, even if just at the friends level. Friends support eachother. If you're not willing to give that then go your own way. Like actually be MGTOW and go away.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 05:45 PM
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Because you don't understand power dynamics and abuse and manipulation. You might even engage in these behaviors yourself and think it's ok. But it's obvious that you don't understand them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 05:21 PM
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In order to recognize that you need to be able to understand trauma bonding. Because that's usually how people get manipulated and put up with bad behaviour.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 04:05 PM
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It might but I'm not even sure trauma is part of any course I've taken or was offered and many therapists graduate without any training in trauma and are not even trauma informed. It's hard to find a trauma informed therapist in my experience
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 03:46 PM
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Lack of self awareness and emotional intelligence or they may just have never applied the things they've learned to themselves. The courses are fairly general and if you want something specific to yourself and you lack the self awareness to apply it to yourself, therapy would work better.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 03:40 PM
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I took a whole 4 year university degree in psych and there are plenty of people who didn't learn a thing about themselves or their attachment styles and are still confused about thier worth to this day.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 03:38 PM
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You know, masculinity isn't toxic, but the lack of masculinity is, and that's what you're displaying here. Weak men are abusive and spiteful, strong men are fair and protective and loving.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 02:47 PM
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Wow you really do hate women. You are the incel. Lol and you have no idea
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 02:33 PM
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You're not spitting facts, you're just displaying your hate for women. Weird way of saying you don't like women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 02:20 PM
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Because the only ones I've heard of doing this proudly claim to be MGTOW lol. So what's I'm saying is if they want to go their own way why are they manipulating themselves into quasi relationships. If the don't need women why do they act like they need women? It's because they need women but if they admit that they would have to put in some effort to make it last longer than 8 months.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 02:19 PM
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You seem triggered
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 02:16 PM
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They seem to get confused by the fact that the guy acts like a boyfriend after proposing FWB. And then just cuts when she needs any type of support, after they supported the guy. It's manipulation.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 06:28 AM
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The unignorable attack is that all MGTOW men still want to have a FWB that still acts like his girlfriend. The only difference is he can claim no responsibility to her because they weren't commited. So they'll hang out at thier place, use thier resources and then disappear. That is abuse. I've heard that story far too many times from female friends. And usually the sex isn't even good so they have no reason to continue that game. But then the men get upset and start harassing them because they a…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 05:57 AM
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Well it's not really that simple, because men who have those qualities along with being disciplined, self aware and emotionally intelligent are usually fairly successful in life in objective ways as well. That's what I ended up with And I just want to add that if the DJ doesn't shower for days and has a devoted girlfriend, she probably doesn't shower for all those days they are partying together either. That's why she's ok with it. So if you want a woman who doesn't shower, don't shower. If you …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 02:59 AM
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They are trying to fault us for not wanting them and if they keep telling themselves that we have regrets for not wanting a relationship with a low value man, then they don't have to change and learn to take care of themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 02:10 AM
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Women want all men who can hold a job, wash thier own clothes, cook, be kind and not arrogant, have good hygeine. Or at least be able to pay someone to be do all that stuff for them so thier wives can spend quality time with them and not be too exhausted to be intimate. If you're not meeting women who like you, then you're probably missing one of those key factors. Or all. I stayed single until I found one of those. It took a long time too.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 02:06 AM
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No it's definitely because it's easier. All families need two incomes. Women don't want to work 40 hours a week and then do 95% of the household labour because some podcast told men that women should serve and please them simply because they are men. When men become emotional dependants and create household work for thier wives, women stop being attracted to them anyway. There are multiple studies done on this. The women lose attraction to the men because they come to be viewed more as a burden …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 02:03 AM
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