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From what you said, you actually got a chance with these girls but messed up. Idk what you messed up, but you messed up something. You managed to get a match, then a discussion that lasted hours or days before getting ghosted. So, your issue is clearly not the apps, or the algorithm.
/r/MensRights19/04/22 12:13 PM
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I literally got perma banned for saying "fuck erdogan" because he attacked women's rights, the "marry your rapist" issue. It's my only comment on the subreddit, so it has to be the reason. It's not even against the rules. And they never gave me an answer. I don't even know if it's a circlejerk at this point.
/r/MensRights08/02/21 01:37 PM
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If we talk real life politics, I think that is true on both sides. On reddit, fuck r/feminism. Idk what is wrong with those people.
/r/MensRights08/02/21 01:07 PM
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You'll be banned, downvoted to oblivion or ignored in the other direction. Many in this sub are unwilling to discuss women's issues completely. Literally the same that is to be blamed on the other side. I stopped identifying with MRA and feminism completely for that reason. I think too many people got the wrong messages from their respective movements. And it's really sad as both movements started with actual problems and strived for actual solutions. If you want a proof on what I mean, just loo…
/r/MensRights08/02/21 12:11 PM
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No dipshit I'm really sorry that your brain is too smooth to understand such simple facts. Taking pictures of 2 people kissing and posting it without their consent is IMMORAL. It is harassment. We don't do it with heterosexuals. Doing it with gays is also NOT ACCEPTABLE. A double standard here IS homophobia. So why the fuck would you tell me "we treat different people in different ways" ? You didn't provide any decent argument for your position. You clearly have a pre-held conclusion you want to…
/r/MensRights20/01/21 11:22 PM
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We treat people differently for a vast array of reasons beyond hatred. The question is what justifies acting differently with certain people. In this case, nothing justifies acting differently with gays.
/r/MensRights20/01/21 11:38 AM
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treating gay people differently isn't homophobia That is discriminatio and it is by definition homophobia. Secondly, thank you for admitting his actual problem isn't homophobia If some people live in a village. And a barrage breaks, everyone drowns. Would you say the cause of theor death is drowning ? Yes, that is true. But the fucking barrage having major flaws is the fucking cause we ought to be talking about. Your analysis is so limited you can't actually solve any problem. If gays are treate…
/r/MensRights19/01/21 01:44 PM
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Do you actually suffer from brain damage ? Wtf do you mean "You want this to be about homophobia so bad, you've ignored his actual problem" when I LITERALLY EXPLAINED HOW HIS PROBLEM IS THE CONSEQUENCE OF HOMOPHOBIA. Question : do we spread pictures of heterosexual couples to entire colleges ? No we fucking don't unless they want it. His "actual problem" is literally the consequence of his homophobic environment. If you are not a homophobe, you know kissing guys doesn't make you gay. OP uses the…
/r/MensRights19/01/21 08:40 AM
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No. I'm claiming his problem in its entirety is caused by homophobia. If he was kissing a woman, the photo would not have spread. And, they would not have spread any information on his sexuality. Many homophobes will bully gays by spreading information on their sexuality. I can add more points on why this is a problem of homophobia. But, I think this is enough to prove my position.
/r/MensRights19/01/21 12:11 AM
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1 being way worse than the other. And in this case there is enough homophobia on either op's part or people around him that is much bigger and more damaging than getting one's sexuality wrong. The assumption that someone is gay simply because they kissed a guy (not even on the lips) is homophobic. I've had a similar experience in high school. I spent a lot of time with 1 friend, so people started making homophobic jokes. I didn't hang out with others from my class because I disliked them. I hang…
/r/MensRights18/01/21 10:52 PM
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His problem is caused by his or his environement's homophobia. You can draw a straight line between both. You have to be really blind to not see how it relates to his problem.
/r/MensRights18/01/21 10:37 PM
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He is literally dropping f-words in caps. He is either a homophobe or he experienced homophobia. And I don't care the virtue signaly "we all agree homophobia is bad", no we don't ALL agree. And that's the 1st problem. The 2nd is doing something about it. For example, not using f-words the way this post is using them, unless he is repeating what was said to him. EDIT : if you are intellectually honest, it very clear homophobia played a role in this. Imagine if he was gay and kissed a women them t…
/r/MensRights18/01/21 04:16 PM
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What the fuck is wrong with you people !? What is bad is the homophobia, not people thinking he is gay. It is also a fact that gay men face more homophobia than lesbians.
/r/MensRights18/01/21 03:35 PM
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I will divide my response into 2 parts : A. This is incorrect B. This harms men A The very obvious your hypothesis has no proof or evidence. It is literally pseudo-science. This should be where the argument ends. But there is some evidence which prove that either your hypothesis is true but has little effect or just wrong. Attractivity is highly influenced by culture and environment. For example, european men were more feminine in their clothing and behavior. That was seen as attractive. I'm goi…
/r/MensRights31/12/20 10:45 AM
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I've never specified this. But I'm not fully a feminist or an MRA. You see the "they're the same" meme ? Well, for me both are the continuation of what happened in the 20th century with women emancipation. This may seem like a weird position, but I can justify it. Both movements seek to emancipate 1 (or multiple) gender. I would be more likely described as a gender abolitionist. Which makes me a feminist and an MRA at the same time. with the more unsavory parts slowly devouring the "equality of …
/r/MensRights22/12/20 05:39 PM
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Gender roles ARE an invisible forces you can put anything behind. You're moving the goal post. Yous said unknown invisible forces. Gender roles ARE an invisible forces you can put anything behind. That's the point. Just like the patriarchy. Okay. Racism is an invisible force. Bigotry is an invisible force. Does it need to be flesh and bone ? blaming everything on gender roles is just lazy thinking and summing up a multi-faceted problem as one with a single cause. I literally responded to this po…
/r/MensRights22/12/20 05:02 PM
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The idea of inequality by itself, that doesn't mean anything when the actual problem is that you're equal, but different and forcing a comparison is nonsensical. And by forcing an artificial equality without taking the specificities of the situation and the details into account, you're actually CREATING inequality. And then there's feminist theory which is a load of crap by itself. This is a criticism the right does to the left all the time. Not realising that the left doesn't advocate for equal…
/r/MensRights22/12/20 02:03 PM
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The idea of inequality by itself, that doesn't mean anything when the actual problem is that you're equal, but different and forcing a comparison is nonsensical. And by forcing an artificial equality without taking the specificities of the situation and the details into account, you're actually CREATING inequality. And then there's feminist theory which is a load of crap by itself. This is a criticism the right does to the left all the time. Not realising that the left doesn't advocate for equal…
/r/MensRights22/12/20 02:03 PM
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The very idea of toxic masculinity is toxic masculinity, since it sums up male experiences and problems as nothing but "gender expectations", conveniently ignoring the fact that the very same issues are likely to be caused by discrimination. Putting the blame on "gender expectations" when it comes to men displaying emotions is just shifting the problems from people, including women, to some unknown invisible force. Make up your mind. Is it expectations or an unknown invisible force. It's can't b…
/r/MensRights22/12/20 01:25 PM
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Yeah. Except that when the ideology itself is the problem, your point makes no sense at all anymore. It's an ideology following a certain framework, that then split up when it comes to specific elements. What is the ideology itself ? And how does it cause the problem ? The idea of women being oppressed and discriminated against is pretty much the basis of it though, Wrong. Feminism is not about "women being oppressed" but gender roles. In the past women had no political presence or influence, th…
/r/MensRights22/12/20 12:58 PM
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his core statement remains factual Then everything is a conspiracy. Including MRA. we care about the political, and academic class of feminists. Those who impose laws, direct funds and oppose progress, the ones who support the Duluth model and support laws which exclude men from definitions of rape. I've never seen anyone criticize the academic class. Most "feminism" flairs in this sub are just rants which are barely consistent or relevant in feminist circles. The definition of rape being anti-m…
/r/MensRights22/12/20 12:41 PM
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Every point you made is either a denial of reality and history. Or you're misinterpreting what is being said. You don't even explain why and how these apply to feminism. You don't even go into the details. I already find the people who use terms such as "X wave feminism" to be unprecise. In your case it's worse. What are you criticizing ? Which feminism is conspiratorial ? If you don't specify here's what happens : your "percieved victimhood" point is historicaly and factually incorrect. Not bei…
/r/MensRights22/12/20 10:20 AM
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Quit looking at yourself in a mirror. The irony is that you come off as the conspiratorial person here.
/r/MensRights22/12/20 01:11 AM
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The definition doesn’t matter and clearly you don’t know the definition of nazism Nazism is a far-right, ultra-nationalist and white supremacist ideology with anti-semitic aspects to it. It is considered as a type of fascism. It views history almost exclusively as struggle between race-groups. (This doesn't mean every person who discusses race is a nazi). Anti-communism and anti-socialism are a huge aspect of nazism. It was called "national socialist" to use the name of socialism as a way to bri…
/r/MensRights26/11/20 08:52 AM
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Feminism is just self entitlement to treatment and benefits without working for them nor giving it back. This is a stupid way of doing politics. Do you consider having rights to be self-entitlement ? Women want equal pay yet they work less hours, less dangerous jobs, are less soldiers and less civilian arrests and police, women escape death sentencing, are first off the boat, escape harsh sentencing, steal in divorces, don’t pay alimony nor child support yet want attention and support for being …
/r/MensRights26/11/20 08:16 AM
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Yes. People in this sub would.
/r/MensRights14/11/20 10:58 AM
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facts don’t care about your feelings so you can’t agree or disagree with the fact that feminism has no need and is just about self entitlement and cravings of selfish power. You are the one who doesn't have the facts on his side. Any movement in a large scale, any larger account, any argument etc for feminism proves this. This is a wrong statement. A definition doesn’t matter for a movement, It does. And you clearly don't get the need of it. You clearly don't understand feminism and are engaging…
/r/MensRights14/11/20 10:19 AM
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So leave this movement. Staying in this sub and making those fake argument against feminism, makes you a hypocrite because you can say the same about MRA. "My body my choice" isn't self-entitlement. Feminism is supposed to change people's minds towards a certain position or point to certain problems in society. It is causing debate you fucking moron ! Without it we would have never discussed women's rights. MRA is literally doing the same thing as feminism. For example on the argument of abortio…
/r/MensRights14/11/20 10:02 AM
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But the definition doesn’t matter Facts don't care about your feelings. You can't agree for or against something if you can't even define it. A movement is as good as the people leading it A movement is as good as the impact has on the world. I don't give a fuck about the leaders. The ideas in the movement are important. The various views and infighting in it are also relevant. Have you ever thought about this ? How about non-homogenous movements ? There is a lot of infighting inside feminist ci…
/r/MensRights12/11/20 02:22 PM
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I'm glad that you see the problem aswell. I feel that people built tribes around feminism and MRA. I don't even know if they even care about the issues they supposedly fight against. Which is worrying. I’m a bit confused by the false allegations part. Why doesn’t that have anything to do with MRA? I’ve been noticing quite a few posts like that on this sub. Okay. So let me clarify a bit. I do not believe false allegations are a men's rights issue, but a legal, judicial and moral question. For exa…
/r/MensRights11/11/20 09:46 AM
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Do you indentify as MRA? If we look at the list of issues that are listed to be MRA. I agree with most of them. "False allegations" has nothing to do with MRA tho. It's a legal and moral issue which stems from a philosophical disagreement between both sides. And, I didn't look into it enough to make an opinion. Then, workplace is also not an MRA issue, but I have a strong opinion on it. Workplace should be safe for the workers. The most important issues on the list for me are support, emotion an…
/r/MensRights11/11/20 01:03 AM
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You have to convince me, if you think you have an argument, that you know better than the 4 greatest medical institutions The "4 greatest" ? Many other medical institutions criticize the practice. Those based in Europe mostly oppose circumcision and don't recommand it. Many docotrs don't recommand it. I've read the AAP papers and the WHO papers on those issues. I went throigh the entire 60 page document put forth by the WHO on the practice. I'll begin with everything I remember from the APP, the…
/r/MensRights11/11/20 12:38 AM
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comparing the rates between europe and the usa is as useful as announcing hunger is dealt with there so it can't be a problem elsewhere. You didn't get the point. Literally every study which parades the fact that circumcision lowers transmission rates (only from female to male though), says VERY EXPLICITLY that condoms are much much more efficient at preventing HIV transmission. And condoms prevent the transmission in both directions. condoms are not an invasive procedure that removes functionin…
/r/MensRights10/11/20 11:39 PM
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it was probably a safe medical choice for someone who visits Africa No it isn't. It is highly contested in the medical community. There is no concensus on a lot of claims around it. It is not enough studied. And the available data is very low quality. For example, the HIV studies show that transmission goes down from female to male but is the same from male to female. And female to male transmission is barely reduced by around 50% if we're being generous. But you'll find different numbers when i…
/r/MensRights10/11/20 11:23 PM
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The same problem goes in the other direction. Many in this sub are unable to define feminism and many never met a progressive person. Too many think feminism is about female supremacy. Now just watch this comment being downvoted to the ground.
/r/MensRights10/11/20 10:04 PM
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a pro-woman agenda, Do you realise that globally women have it worse than men ? Your look on the world is too western-centric and the UN is a global organisation. In the west women's issues are mostly dealt with. In kost of the world it is not the case. In Russia it is legal for a man to beat his wife. Just check the data on it. The numbers are fucking insane. The number of women who die from domestic violence each year is insane. In north africa and the middle east they have less rights. For ex…
/r/MensRights29/10/20 09:34 PM
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It is corrupt, but not for the reasons you think it is. And it is not steeped in dishonest feminist propaganda. It is corrupt in the sense that it has some cultural bias in many of its statements based on which country is concerned. This applies to the UN as a whole. They don't want to be lose some countries' support. So they'll bend the knee if they know it will upset too many people. They're not feminist. The UN is too weak to oppose countries. It can not oppose the US, Russia, China, France o…
/r/MensRights29/10/20 12:29 PM
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Don't get your hopes up....this is still feminist indoctrinated piffle. Just wait and see Do you unironically believe the middle east and Russia are feminist countries !? Because "societies" doesn't mean western countries. There are other societies, countries and continents other than western ones. Perhaps, you may have heard of something called Africa, and even of Asia. Well there are billions of people there. Actually, most of humanity lives in those 2 continents.
/r/MensRights29/10/20 10:40 AM
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If you follow what the UN is doing, they're not pushing for any agenda except following what the big powers want or are. They push for what is accepted in the mainstream of these countries. The issue is that the UN is too weak and depends on those countries. Which is the major flaw of the UN. The UN is not feminist nor defending women's rights otherwise they would make statements and even take actions against Saudi Arabia, Russia and many other countries. They're not pro-men otherwise they would…
/r/MensRights29/10/20 08:53 AM
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The statement is not incorrect. It is objectively true. I can name dosens of countries in which this is correct now let alone human history. You feel strongly against it because you don't like feminism. But it's only feels. The facts are not on your side. Unless you believe women in dirtbags in one-sided polygamous relationships with no right to move a finger without men's permissions and not having any politcal power are a priviledges, opportunities and power. Love it or hate it the statement i…
/r/MensRights29/10/20 08:24 AM
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It is not run by leftist SJWs. It run by liberals and neo-liberals who are right-wing.
/r/MensRights29/10/20 08:08 AM
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Edit: oh, and a literal fuckton of feminists attacked Johnny Depp for his wife beating the shit out of him. Nice example 👍 And many supported him you have called all anti-feminists traditional right-wingers, I NEVER said that. It's not my problem if you can't read correctly. and now you have called all Christians anti-semites. I You really can't read. I'm done wasting time on an illiterate trog. Just like you're ok with #killallmen because the most popular feminist icons are, right? I'm not okay…
/r/MensRights20/10/20 11:19 AM
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Toxic femininity? Which feminists have done anything about that, or even acknowledge that it's a thing? Many feminists I've talked to acknowledge it exists. As for "toxic masculinity", a feminist favorite, please tell me, what are some examples of non-toxic masculinity? The question you ought to ask is what is toxic masculinity. Not the other way. Excusing bad behavior when men do it. I grew up being constantly told that men can't control their lust and that's why they cheat more often. That's a…
/r/MensRights20/10/20 11:06 AM
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By the way, what actions have feminists ever taken to promote equality for all, not just "equality" for women? Toxic masculinity and toxic femininity. One is being adressed. Men not expressing their emotions is a huge problem. Many feminists want equality in the justice system because it reinforces gender roles. And gender roles harm men and women in different ways. And I think it's very fucking stupid to play the game of which one of the 2 is more oppressed in the 21st century. Many feminists d…
/r/MensRights19/10/20 08:49 PM
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However, not believing something doesn't make it untrue Bitch You're arguing with me. So why the fuck are you attacking a position I don't hold and arguments I didn't make ? You're such a waste of my time. Unable to define feminism while you pretend to be against it. Fuck off
/r/MensRights18/10/20 08:15 AM
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Wow, you just went negative effort with that response. Here, let me respond in an equally useless fucking manner. Strawman, nope, loser, not true, liar, strawman, take the dick from your ass. It was a strawman. I doesn't matter how mad you get it remains a strawman. Most of what you said, I don't believe. but then totally r/woooosh on just how much that crushed your original argument into dust. It didn't But sure, let's go with you didn't just blatantly prove my point by having to explain differ…
/r/MensRights16/10/20 05:20 PM
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Do you find it odd that you would have to clarify this? Meaning that one can be against feminism, but not be of the traditionalist ideology you are forcing on us? Thank you for proving my point with a simple explanation of how people can have different beliefs. Good show. If you think that proves your point. Good luck In case you've forgotten, you're telling us how being anti-feminist automatically made me into a traditionalist flat-earther nutbag... from your enlightened perspective. Strawman W…
/r/MensRights15/10/20 05:53 PM
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Why do you think feminism means women having the right to vote? There are people who are against women having the right to vote. Even in 2020 in western countries. Being against feminism also doesn't mean you are for traditionalism. But being a traditionalist means you are against feminism. I'll even make a stronger statement. Conservatives are much more likely to be against feminism as most of them want to reinforce gender roles. As I already explained, feminism is an ideology. Being against on…
/r/MensRights15/10/20 07:00 AM
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Based If you have a discussion with an annoying feminist tell them you want to abolish gender. If they keep telling you're far-right then you know they're not worth your time. You can't be futher left than abolishing gender.
/r/MensRights14/10/20 12:40 PM
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Oh really ? So being against women having the right to vote is not mysoginist ? Being a traditionalist who wants women in kitchens is not mysoginist ? You know very well that my statement there was correct. You know that feminist don't agree on most issues. You know that it is much more complicated than what you are saying. Unless, ofc, if you have never been in feminist or far-left circles.
/r/MensRights14/10/20 07:30 AM
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Depends on the definition of feminism you use.
/r/MensRights13/10/20 07:41 PM
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Btw. I never stated this, but I'm a gender abolishionist. Gender as a concept only caused harm. What do you think about abolishing gender.
/r/MensRights13/10/20 07:19 PM
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Then why do so many influential feminists fight against the idea that women rape men and it can be traumatic? For statistical reporting, rape has been carefully defined as forced penetration of the victim in most of the world. Please listen to this feminist professor Mary P Koss explain that a woman raping a man isn't rape. Hear her explain in her own voice just a few years ago - https://clyp.it/uckbtczn. I encourage you to listen to what she is saying. (Really. Listen to it! Think about it from…
/r/MensRights13/10/20 05:34 PM
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We had gender neutral domestic violence laws before VAWA. MANY of the laws under VAWA were challenged in court and had to be rewritten gender neutral. The funding is still not gender neutral which is why we have almost entirely victim support services for women and perpetrator intervention services for men in the US. So it being solved then, right ? It also allowed the defendant to enter exonerating evidence and submit written questions to the accuser. In other words defend themselves. "Clear an…
/r/MensRights13/10/20 04:54 PM
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What did I say that suggested I think about Trump ? I didn't come here to debate Trump. So give me a fucking break. I didn't mention him. You did. I didn't make comments on the story you can't read. Are you a troll or something ? And I haven’t suffered at all because of him Yet. And Idc. Have fun ! Enjoy sucking his dick. Idc. Now can you respond to what I've been saying or are you going to keep annoying me with wanting to debate Trump ? I don't even know what you want at this point Anyways if y…
/r/MensRights13/10/20 04:10 PM
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I'm not american so I might be wrong om some of this Biden has called co-authoring VAWA his proudest achievement in politics and wants to strengthen it when he gets elected. VAWA doesn't seem like a bad thing. I just believe some of the protection it provides to women must be extended to men. Biden has said he will immediately roll back the due process rights of students accused of sexual misconduct under Title IX that the Trump administration just gave them. From what I read it was "clear and c…
/r/MensRights13/10/20 03:59 PM
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You're actually brain dead. Did you read the thread ? Did you read what I was responding to ? He asked what was national review so I answered. If you don't like it suck my dick, idc. I feel like your just another ass napkin that’s fussing ranting about how evil the right is which makes you calling others snowflakes so ironic No. You are insanely fucking stupid. My comment was clear, I was answering someone on what is nationalreview and I made NO FUCKING comment on the story. None. But it seems t…
/r/MensRights13/10/20 02:47 PM
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Not true. I'm far-left. I'm an anarchist, gender abolishionist, race abolishionist, anti-theist, feminist, etc. You can hardly be further left than I am. I think there are good things in this movement despite it having some bad people. And most movements have bad people.
/r/MensRights13/10/20 02:32 PM
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If Democrat proposals and talking points weren't anti-male Which democrat proposals are anti-male ? and voting third party or speaking up for men wasn't branded alt-right by the left, Speaking up for men is not branded as far-right. But many who claim to do it are just reactionary who don't give a fuck about men. These men will speak as if women were oppressing men. They tapically never speak about men's issues. All they do is try to construct a narrative in which women are priviledged and they …
/r/MensRights13/10/20 02:22 PM
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They're DEFINITELY far-right. I used the term "probably" because I wasn't sure. Now I am. They have an entire section on "culture war" and having read a couple of their articles they're 100% far-right. I have no doubt left on them being far-right. And I'm not angry, I feel disgust.
/r/MensRights13/10/20 10:29 AM
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I wasn't arguing against the story. He asked about national review so I answered him. If the story is accurately told, then I don't believe this is an MRA issue even if the victim is a man. The judicial system was incompetent. When it comes to people's reaction I don't believe it would have been different if the victim was a female. And don't give me the fallacious argument "obviously it would have been different". MRA is about changing the perception of men in society. Then everything will star…
/r/MensRights13/10/20 10:09 AM
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If you don’t like the source just move on, nobody wants to know your political opinions stfu. You don't get to decide what everybody wants to hear or not. You don't speak for nobody except yourself. I didn't even say my political opinion in that comment. I said something objective : this source is BIASED AND HAS FAR-RIGHT LEANING. That IS OBJECTIVELY TRUE. My comment was FREE judgement. But maybe I should have said what I believe : fuck nationalreview and fuck every subhuman between right and fa…
/r/MensRights13/10/20 09:50 AM
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It's bad. MRA tends to be wrongfully associated with far-right and mysoginist groups because these people think MRA opposes feminism (It doesn't).
/r/MensRights13/10/20 09:39 AM
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Probably a biased source with rightwing if not far-right leaning
/r/MensRights13/10/20 08:46 AM
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There are so many ways to tackle that argument. It's inheritely fallacious because it ignores something important when it comes to salary. Paid for taking the risk. We also don't really choose. Your only choice is either to starve to death or work whatever you have the opoortunity to wirk. If you work + risk your life, then it's only just to have a slightly higher revenue. If they are economically far-left, nobody in the far-left advocates for ultimate equality because it simply couldn't exist. …
/r/MensRights17/09/20 08:55 PM
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So all over nature, males are competing for males. Again, why would we as humans be any different. There are species in which females compete for males. And you have the burden of proof to show that humans act the same way. And we don't "compete" for females. Most people who fail, it happens because of their personality and behavior more than their looks.
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