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Don't care about their understanding tbh
/r/AllPillDebate27/08/23 03:19 PM
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That advice is only for exposure. Other than that, the rules of dating still apply. I mean who gives a fuck if one guy who is akward , ugly and short has many hobbies. People only care about the hobbies you have as long as they view you as attractive first. Being close to women as an ugly autistic guy won't really raise his chances much. Not to mention who has time to be doing all of these things? Chad, who only plays video games and watches sports > ugly guy who has hobbies.
/r/AllPillDebate22/08/23 10:49 AM
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https://youtu.be/XGkWcxExB3Q watch this then. Lol men are less picky about height than woman are.
/r/AllPillDebate22/08/23 09:15 AM
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How does branching out and finding new experiences change who you are. Well I guess all the things I've done have changed me along the way but it was never for a girl. Girls just happen to like all the things I listed. Good for you, but what if you are not into these things? One of the lies people say is that "be yourself," but in reality, there are hobbies seen as lame by women. There are personality traits liked by most, and if you don't fit in, then you as a person is flawed, and change is im…
/r/AllPillDebate22/08/23 09:13 AM
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How so? Did he get banned?
/r/AllPillDebate21/08/23 04:18 PM
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What happened to kemonocel?
/r/AllPillDebate21/08/23 10:52 AM
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That's a lie
/r/AllPillDebate21/08/23 01:41 AM
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What's the point of this post?
/r/AllPillDebate20/08/23 09:00 AM
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Low IQ comment. I have experienced being made fun of for being a virgin
/r/AllPillDebate19/08/23 03:04 PM
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Yeah, right then. Why do social hierarchies exist?
/r/AllPillDebate19/08/23 03:02 PM
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They take it too far, but if it's something like saudi arabia policies, then i am support of that.
/r/AllPillDebate17/08/23 08:07 AM
1

Hence, the word "hardwork" is meaningless
/r/AllPillDebate15/08/23 05:52 PM
0

Most people's opinions on incels don't matter in the slightest, though
/r/AllPillDebate15/08/23 03:49 PM
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The majority of people are trying to find a partner as well. Well singledom is high among people in their early 20's, it sharply declines with age. Talking virginity. Where I live is irrelevant. Am I sour that people in this world are born into wealth? Absolutely. That doesn't mean I just stop doing it. That thought process wouldn't change regardless of where I lived Smh. Case in point, that example you gave is a dumb one. Most people are not incels. Most people need to study and work to earn mo…
/r/AllPillDebate05/08/23 01:41 AM
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On the other hand, thats life. I still work even though there are millionaires based solely of generational wealth. I still got an education with my own hurdles when others can do this effortlessly. I still dream of owning a home when others got theirs easily and a fraction of the cost. Using a common thing, most people go through and compare it to inceldom lol. You don't feel bad about doing these things because the majority of people are doing that too, and you probably live in a first world c…
/r/AllPillDebate04/08/23 10:48 PM
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The biggest favor you can ever do for yourself is to learn to accept who you are, and not give two shits about what anyone else thinks of you. I feel like people only say these things when they get accepted for being themselves.
/r/AllPillDebate04/08/23 06:46 PM
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You make a fair point, but how does all that add up to 'It's pointless to ever even try?' For me, i have always grown up being called ugly and received a lot of negative social experiences, so i never even thought of dating as something i should bother about. Like, no shit a lot of incels don't try because their experiences made them hopeless from the get-go. I mean, what source of motivation do you expect someone like that to pull from? And i think the majority of incels still have tried one wa…
/r/AllPillDebate04/08/23 06:25 PM
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Lol, what? Lets get on with the facts. Most incels have it worse than a normie. Someone who starts dating on his teens shouldn't be talking about effort. Besides, that word is meaningless, a social anxious guy who approaches 5 women puts more effort relative to an extroverted, confident guy who approaches 20 women. Point is an incel needs to put more effort to reach normal than your average guy. Hence, the word "effort" shouldn't be spoken by a normie. I'd like respect that from someone who trul…
/r/AllPillDebate04/08/23 05:54 PM
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The difference is that work almost guarantees money. If you need to work on being seen as a sexual being then you are fucked.
/r/AllPillDebate04/08/23 05:13 PM
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Am saying overall despite him being hated by some, he was also loved. The reason he is loved is because he appealed to human nature. He had women and success before he was popular, and despite him "trafficking" women, he managed to still have a lot of them. Point being, him being able to get women while a good incel can't means overall tate is a better human. It doesn't matter if a guy is a good person. If the world deemed them as low value, then he'd live a shitty existence
/r/AllPillDebate30/07/23 11:12 AM
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Every potential answer relates to personality. And I hate to see young men give up because they don't understand how that works. Yes because one can choose a personality at will.
/r/AllPillDebate30/07/23 05:54 AM
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Get rid of the idea that having sex somehow makes you a better or worse man, is just feminist cope and manipulation, you re not a worst or better man because a woman desires you sexually. Better or worse on the eyes of women and society, though. Despite people shitting on andrew tate, he is loved by society more than an unattractive short guy who works in a homeless shelter. A good person for me is how the world responds to them. You can be good, yet women dislike you, and you have shitty social…
/r/AllPillDebate30/07/23 05:50 AM
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All these are genetics based though
/r/AllPillDebate29/07/23 10:17 PM
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Trolling works if they are in a community that disagrees with you. Can't troll by having similar views in your community.
/r/AllPillDebate19/07/23 03:31 PM
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Chad only
/r/AllPillDebate19/07/23 03:30 PM
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Go to therapy
/r/AllPillDebate19/07/23 10:02 AM
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Lol, why do incels think that their opinions are valid. A fact is you only believe these things and have these views just because you are unattractive and had negative experiences with women. That's my point exactly. Low IQ jfl Honey, I am a women. I know how women work, you know real life women who go outside and don’t live on the internet Even worse. A woman telling men how the world works as an unattractive man
/r/AllPillDebate19/07/23 08:44 AM
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Lol, why do nomries think that their opinions are valid. A fact is you only believe these things and have these views just because you are not unattractive and had positive experiences with women. Telling guys who had the opposite experiences as you did to have the same mentality as you is not realistic
/r/AllPillDebate19/07/23 07:00 AM
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Yeah, the issues incels face or issues large enough to affect their dating or social life.
/r/AllPillDebate17/07/23 02:03 PM
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Okay? Like what's the point of saying that though?
/r/AllPillDebate17/07/23 01:47 PM
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This is such a fine example one of main character syndrome, don’t you think everyone has some shitty thing happen to them while growing up, I was raped when I was 15, but I know not every man is a rapist I’m sorry you’ve had issues growing up, but in all honesty mate, so did everyone else, your not special and now your adult you don’t get to act like a child anymore What a dumb thing to say. If that's honeslty true, then everyone would have issues, but that autistic kid who has never had a gf go…
/r/AllPillDebate17/07/23 10:36 AM
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Who cares bro. Both of them are unattractive in the eye of women.
/r/AllPillDebate14/07/23 05:22 PM
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Are you autistic by any chance?
/r/AllPillDebate12/07/23 07:52 AM
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My love and respect for women grow every single day.
/r/AllPillDebate11/07/23 06:29 PM
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You can't have plenty of options and be desperate
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 11:05 AM
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Female Suicide would increase tbh.
/r/AllPillDebate11/07/23 06:14 AM
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Lol i don't know how women like you would feel if you were men. Seems a lot of you guys won't be able to cope for shit.
/r/AllPillDebate11/07/23 06:13 AM
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You know that's a lie. Most abusers show signs early on. Hell, being extremely smooth should be the first red flag.
/r/AllPillDebate11/07/23 04:47 AM
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So what do you understand by brain development? The way i view it is just your personality, which is more rigid than people realise, and personality is in the brain, hence your development. Even things like temperment also involve that.
/r/AllPillDebate10/07/23 05:09 PM
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Saying what exactly childhood experiences affect their development? You really need a source on that? Because if you do, then i don't see the point in having a discussion with someone so ignorant.
/r/AllPillDebate10/07/23 04:59 PM
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Observant people will notice that this is not sourced. So I went to the paragraph above and read the source for Rutter et al who was sourced as the SME on the gene environment stuff. It said absolutely nothing of the sort. You made up that shit about brain development and then spent the next 200 words treating it like facts. It's not rocket science. Anyone who knows anything about psychology knows how important it is for children to have postive experinces with peers id someone who is unattracti…
/r/AllPillDebate10/07/23 04:45 PM
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Such cope.
/r/AllPillDebate10/07/23 10:32 AM
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Okay, maybe above average but not by much. My point still stands
/r/AllPillDebate06/07/23 03:17 PM
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Depends on the cards said ex-incel have been delt with. The majority of ex-incels i see get dates from online dating, which means you were never really that unattractive to begin with. But yeah, in general, I'd rather listen to an ex-incel.
/r/AllPillDebate06/07/23 03:06 PM
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more like the white person jfl. Though it's amazing how a lot of rich and successful men settle with average tier looking women , you'd barley find the opposite case.
/r/AllPillDebate06/07/23 02:48 PM
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As if incels started this way. Most have had bad experiences, then became incels. Besides, what makes you think I am an asshole
/r/AllPillDebate06/07/23 01:37 PM
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Have women tried treating incels as people? Lets start with that.
/r/AllPillDebate06/07/23 09:33 AM
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Big cope
/r/AllPillDebate06/07/23 09:32 AM
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very charismatic Answered that question yourself. One other thing i believe is that personality is really important, but it's just as unchangeable as looks, Honestly, going to the gym and looks maxing is a lot easier than changing ones personality. So yeah, normies be saying, "Get a personality" while they themselves don't know why they have such personality in the first place. So yeah of some average looking dude is above average charisma be can pull, but can everyone have that kind of charisma…
/r/AllPillDebate05/07/23 08:45 PM
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Most people lose their virginity in their teens. From that fact alone, yes, they have it better than an incel. Keep coping.
/r/AllPillDebate05/07/23 08:35 PM
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For you maybe? But does it matter what you think. Do you think virgins hate the fact they are virgins because of what society things of them? It's mostly about how they feel about themselves. It is shameful if you are in that predicament and someone who lost their virginity at 16 telling some 38 yo man it's not shameful feels kinda dumb.
/r/AllPillDebate04/07/23 03:49 AM
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Is this the good personality normies speak of? 🤔
/r/AllPillDebate03/07/23 11:52 AM
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"Just spend thousands of hours bro" i also doubt social skills is that simple anyway. It's all depends on childhood/genetics. If you are not a people person and have negative experience as a child, then you won't be as social. It's no rocket science, really.
/r/AllPillDebate03/07/23 11:50 AM
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This is great and all, but women are still attracted to men who uphold a certain masculine standard. So if you are saying you shouldn't let others define you, then i agree, but if you want to be included in the sexual market, you have to go with what women want.
/r/AllPillDebate03/07/23 11:45 AM
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Man, this is cope.
/r/AllPillDebate29/06/23 05:46 AM
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If you need to self improve it's been over imo
/r/AllPillDebate22/06/23 07:06 PM
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Just keep grinding for a crumb, bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 12:01 AM
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excluding men who are physically disfigured or have mental illness). Which are majority of incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 02:21 PM
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I honestly believe it's more about personality than looks. Though i believe they can't change their personality. So if you are able to date, then you probably have a normie tier personality. Especially when you have things like confidence and social skills.
/r/AllPillDebate07/05/23 04:23 PM
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Am not even dating bruh. Do you know the sub you are on? 💀
/r/AllPillDebate03/05/23 07:52 AM
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What is that supposed to mean?
/r/AllPillDebate02/05/23 07:15 PM
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Reincarnation brudda
/r/AllPillDebate02/05/23 11:14 AM
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Your mistake was taking normie opinions seriously.
/r/AllPillDebate02/05/23 08:50 AM
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Because mothers actually grew up in a time when these things worked. They don't know better
/r/AllPillDebate25/04/23 05:44 AM
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Mods ban thia guy
/r/AllPillDebate25/04/23 05:25 AM
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Can you blame them? A woman these days doesn't need to be attractive to receive a lot of attention.
/r/AllPillDebate25/04/23 05:23 AM
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Tbh both men and women do this.
/r/AllPillDebate21/04/23 06:04 PM
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Based post. That's why i don't listen to normies giving advice
/r/AllPillDebate21/04/23 06:01 PM
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Low IQ question ngl.
/r/AllPillDebate17/04/23 11:31 AM
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Based laincel.
/r/AllPillDebate16/04/23 11:42 PM
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Mass cullings of sub 5s
/r/AllPillDebate15/04/23 02:39 PM
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If you were to get approached you'd rejected most of them anyways lol. It's not about you being average or not but a lot of men kinda stopped trying.
/r/AllPillDebate15/04/23 02:06 PM
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Guess volunteering
/r/AllPillDebate15/04/23 02:04 PM
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Successfulcel
/r/AllPillDebate15/04/23 07:40 AM
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Then just find another man like her to settle with.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 07:57 PM
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Then it means that study is flawned.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 01:53 AM
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You seem to forget men have higher sex drive...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 01:52 AM
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Doesn't change anything if you are unattractive. Life is not an objective experience
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 11:52 PM
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Ah yes because that's proof that most male virgins have options. I can go ask similar question to group of incels and majority would say they'd never had any intrest from a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 11:23 PM
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For women yes but for men it's not
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 11:00 PM
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Only yimir knows
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 09:10 AM
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Why should i care. These women choose shitty men and then come here and complain about all men. It's stupid
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 06:34 AM
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If that's what you want more power to you but redpillers are talking about those women who are not happy being single at their 30s.
/r/ExRedPill11/03/23 03:40 PM
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Still requires a change of personality and that's something women won't be able to realte to. For example someone who isn't an asshole but is into male dominated things or extremely niche things that it's hard to find others into the same things. Introverted women have no issues getting dates because no matter what they do they are the ones who are sought after while for men you either are born one things or you'll suffer. So yeah change ain't easy and it's not quick and would require years to d…
/r/ExRedPill08/03/23 05:41 PM
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How much of that is personality vs just traits? Cuz a lot of it feels like "change who you are or what you like"
/r/ExRedPill08/03/23 06:49 AM
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Because unless you are a good looking man or extremely charismatic you'll walk through life being invisible to women
/r/ExRedPill02/03/23 12:29 AM
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A lot of Men are assuming based on their own life experinces. You are just using yours to invalidate anothers lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/23 09:30 AM
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Honeslty just go by your experiences. Women treat you differently based on different traits you possess.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/01/23 07:53 AM
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Tbh from what i see men's preferences are more varied than women. A lot of women would 100% be incels if they were born a male just because of their personality type alone
/r/AllPillDebate13/01/23 02:20 PM
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If that's the case then why sould we feel bad for a woman who is staying in an abusive relationship? Isn't that her own choice? If she like men with dark triad traits then she expect that what she would get.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 04:55 AM
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Because it's futile not to mention that no matter how you looks max as an average or below average guys you probably won't notice the difference that much. You still won't get compliments or approach by women. Unless you because like 7/10 or above.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/23 06:22 PM
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But almost all the men who struggle with women tend to be of the same looks level and personality type. Weird right?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/23 07:01 AM
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The reason men are drawn into redpill because it's about their life experinces. Your average woman is bluepilled because they grow up knowing that they are attractive enough for men
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/23 05:09 AM
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The Suicide rates of men say something else.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/23 05:07 AM
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How so? Going to therapy is a private thing. You don't have to talk about it to anyone other than a psychologist.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/23 05:05 AM
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I mean the definition of a mental issue that it has to effect you in some capacity.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/23 05:03 AM
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Tfw no makima gf
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 06:27 AM
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Miss that sub tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 05:12 AM
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Chads out
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 07:51 PM
1

So you are straight, but want a gay top?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 07:50 PM
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"Just fix your posture, bro"
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 07:49 PM
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She weighed 420 lbs BTW. Bruh
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 04:34 PM
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Empathetic gender everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 04:32 PM
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Men are expected to do that though.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 10:43 AM
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They only have game when they are into you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 09:44 AM
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Didn't read
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 09:31 AM
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Chad
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 06:02 AM
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Mogs me tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 03:43 AM
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I know a 5'2 balding indian janitor who slayes ton of women. He also lives in new york JFL.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 11:03 AM
0

Personality is also correlated with looks
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 08:53 PM
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Go to any grade school and you'll always find that few group of kids who are liked by everyone while others are outcasts. They are either genetic or early childhood environment. Being charismatic isn't just something anyone can devolop.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 08:50 PM
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Men who shame women are usually are not attractive to women anyways so it's not really counter-intuitive
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 08:47 PM
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JFL
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 05:17 PM
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I know am just saying that their symptoms would show.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 08:21 AM
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It does actually because it's an experince.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 12:17 AM
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Then they have these symptoms but they just hide from others by actually hiding otherwise it will show. If you tell someone with high social anxiety to present infront of class the their is no way their symptoms won't show.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 12:12 AM
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"Just be super rich or charismatic, bro"
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 10:53 PM
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Just imagine jfl
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 10:43 PM
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Lack of experience is an experince in itself though.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 10:37 PM
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If someone has anxiety then it will show otherwise their anxiety isn't that bad. There is no "hiding" it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 10:31 PM
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CBT is not just do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 10:29 PM
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So because attractive guy has more chance on tinder and gets laid therefore he know everything? Not having an experience or being unattractive is an experience in itself. It's like me saying "you can't talk about basketball because you are 5'2"
/r/ExRedPill30/11/22 12:46 PM
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Reddiors and their obssesion with hobbies.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 03:12 PM
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Such wishful thinking tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 07:06 PM
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Sure but even in a casual relationship these things matter and hence why they have a high body count.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 09:08 PM
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I mean it's not like you can separate the two, but the fact is it's not like women are turned off by these men. They like it when men are like that. For example if i found a woman who is attractive and has a good personality but had slept with a lots of men then that's a no for me, but for women they wouldn't mind that. Also it's easy to get sex as woman so i think that also plays into who gets more praise.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 08:37 PM
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I think it's a combination of both tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 07:52 PM
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The wall doesn't exist. Idk why you redpillers keep clinging to this dumb point tbh. Most people date their age and an older women still has way more options than an older man.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 07:12 PM
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Women do that on a subconscious level though. "If he gets a lot of attention then he must be something special" is the mentality a lot of women go by.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 07:06 PM
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Even if we go by this concept of hypergamy, millions of men focus on and try to pursue women who are put of thier league in many ways as well. If given the opportunity, they would probably dump who they're with for someone superior to themselves, especially if they believe she really wants to be with them. I disagree. Not every man is like this. It's really depends of the person. Do you think promiscuity can also damage men? Not really. The only think it would "damage" them if they became sex ad…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 02:38 PM
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don't really care tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 10:43 AM
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sure it happens but that's not what am talking about. for me, hypergamy isn't about upgrading but trying to find something better than you. women do that for everything when it comes to money, social status, personality traits, etc. yes, it damages women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 10:42 AM
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Only chads with unlimited options can do that
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 04:28 AM
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Sure but men in general don't really care that much about the woman's income
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 04:26 AM
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hypergamy is a female thing though especially when it comes to money and social status. same goes for promiscuity.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 05:11 PM
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I don't need to ask them because i can observe what they like. Simple shit
/r/ExRedPill23/11/22 03:08 AM
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Unless the guy is super attractive ofc
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 03:02 AM
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the ones who kill people have mental illness as their belief system.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 05:59 PM
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Mountain is self improvement for a lot of men who are unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 10:31 PM
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Women don't need to put a lot of effort compared to men today though so them not having options to work doesn't change that fact
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 10:25 PM
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Then right now they aren't banned and they still do the minimum to be considered attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 10:25 PM
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Okay? What if 90% of them are females? Doesn't change the fact that men experince it too. The change i want to explain why these things are happening and that they should stop blaming men and making us feel guilty over our dating situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 10:24 PM
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It ain't that simple if you need to achive enlightenment to get a date then it's been over. People date as young as 13.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 10:20 PM
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"Just better yourself bro" I swear i am tired of all these self improvement messages that men have been getting latel. Frankly, i don't care to climb the mountain at this point because i know the reward will mediocre.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 10:19 PM
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Women: have degrees and jobs, also want men who have degrees and jobs More like women have desgrees and jobs, also want men who have degrees and jobs but out earn them
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 10:14 PM
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Because the women are not worth it? Are these women feminine? Virgins? Know how to actually cook and clean? Why want a masculine man when you are not traditionally feminine? Men's standards didn't change it's the women's the hypocritical feminists who only want equality when it suites them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 10:12 PM
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If it's about the issue i listen then maybe not all but definitely most
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 10:09 PM
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A lot of redpillers are delusional though. They are trying to recreate a traditional masculine role when the society they live in is not even built to support that. You won't find these ideas in the a lof traditional counties because the whole society is redpilled
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 10:08 PM
0

Better in terms of what because shallow things like social status, money, looks and all the standards that western dating has put on men? Because for me that's not better. Other countries men actually are able to be attractive because society give them that chance. In the west it's a shitshow.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 10:07 PM
2

How do you deal with sexual frustration cuz that's definitely an issue for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 10:05 PM
1

Think what way?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 01:53 PM
1

no one has anything to offer really. we all are into different things and these things are not really that easy to quantify.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 12:43 PM
-1

never really claimed that women will care. just stating how things will be.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 12:42 PM
1

i was raised there
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 12:40 PM
0

doesn't have to be stated. the pressure is there because women judge for it otherwise a woman wouldn't be willing to go in another date.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 12:13 PM
-4

that's just not the norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 12:11 PM
0

low IQ argument. a lot of men suffer from autism and social anxiety too. women can do that they just don't because they have the option to remain passive not to mention they don't need to do that a lot of times too.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 11:44 AM
-1

my posts only exist so people stop questioning what's going on with a lot of men because am kinda tired of seeing people talking about what men should do without taking into account these things.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 11:42 AM
0

what sexual trauma JFL. what makes you think men don't go through sexual trauma. victim mentality smh
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 11:41 AM
2

using escorts only fills me with sadness tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 11:39 AM
2

Maybe, but sexual drive is still there.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 10:30 AM
3

If my "privilege" does not benefit me then it's really not a privilege is it. Besides, you are bringing up an irrelevant point. "Oh stop complaining ablut being poor at least you haven't been raped"
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 10:29 AM
5

Ah yes Because men just woke up and started to identify with these groups
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 10:26 AM
0

I have my own experiences then lol
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 10:22 AM
1

More capable in terms of what?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 10:22 AM
2

Yeah, therefore they didn't do anything to be considered attractive. The fact that they can now be stay at home moms and many guys won't really complain further proves my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 10:10 AM
4

Sure men are joining them but they are doing that as a reaction to their current circumstances
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 10:09 AM
-7

That's not the norm though. Men are reacting to the norm and not what a few women here and their might be like. It also depends in the culture. Finding that in black communties is a lot less common for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 10:04 AM
0

Am saying that these qualities are only exclusively expect on men by women who don't posses these same qualities.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 09:35 AM
1

How so? Men throughout history had to be the ones who go to work, provide, protect and be the main anchor of the house. Women always had to do nothing but just exist. You have to be delusional to actually think women had to put more effort than men. More women managed to reproduce after all.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 09:34 AM
-6

Your example doesn't really disproves my points. My point is that a woman can be non of these and yet still get men but we as men expected to do more.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 09:32 AM
0

If that was true they wouldn't require men to pay for dates, have more income than them or have their own house. as i said women upload standards for men they themselves don't measure up to.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 09:27 AM
0

It's only pure luck for below average and some average men. For women it really isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 07:47 AM
0

They are though.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 07:46 AM
3

Nah they are the same. It's the high n count that matters not the type of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 05:45 AM
2

Nope
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 08:11 PM
1

Comedy is different than being a funny person. You can find funny kids in middle school and i was always described as funny by friends yet didn't learn shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 08:11 PM
1

Not reading anything past the title tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 08:10 PM
1

Your initial post didn’t say 50%. So that’s not true. And as I’ve said, I’ve seen no evidence that personality is deterministic. The jury is still out on that stuff, and not only that, there are reports of people being able to learn that stuff, within the red pill community. By the way I’m not a red piller. I’m not arguing from any pill, I think all of them are bogus. You seem to be arguing blackpill though. And you can use your anecdotes just fine, however I’d just use the same counter - your e…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 02:32 PM
1

You are shifting. The TITLE of your post says something completely different from what you’re saying. The post itself also doesn’t say what you’re saying you said. My initial response was not me saying that it’s all genetic, because my position is the exact opposite of that. My whole argument is that it’s NOT purely genetic, that genetics form some but not ALL of our behavior. My first sentence to you was about arguing the nuances of hardline determinism. Why the fuck would I go down that route …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 10:33 AM
1

Chad fwb*
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 07:33 AM
1

So in your first point you keep shifting goal posts. This position is miles away from the initial position you presented. I’m going to consider your view changed. “I’m partially right” is still wrong, no matter how much you want to cope. You were incorrect. You haven’t read the study. Never shifted anything. You are the one who keeps saying it's all genetic even though i said it's about half. Secondly, we began using looks as a metric because you brought up genetics. Looks are a part of genetics…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 07:16 AM
1

Personality is not as simple as learning how to drive. Look these things up
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 07:14 AM
1

They are still things not within your control. It's not like i said it's all genes anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 07:13 AM
-1

Because you are isolating these things as if they exist in a vacuum. It's not like "just be less creepy and you'll have the same experience as the guy who isn't creepy" there are many variable that exist when it comes to how other treat you
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 07:12 AM
1

Yeah okay lol
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 07:09 AM
0

It's not the same at all. A personality is more complex than being a comedian.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 07:46 PM
0

So something tells me that you haven’t read this study. Firstly, the study is talking specifically about a psychobiological perspective on personality, one that specifically accounts for the heritability of certain personality traits. Secondly, it doesn’t say 50%, it says 30-60% of personality traits are heritable. If you wanted to be accurate you should’ve said about 45%, which would’ve been in the middle. Thirdly, the analysis presented doesn’t fully answer the nature/nurture question, nor doe…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 07:32 PM
1

How about you add in a head transplant too.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 07:22 PM
1

Show me a woman who has a taste for 5'3 balding indian man.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 06:08 PM
1

Then it improved because things got better. But the tricky part about personality is that if you get a negative reinforcement during this improvement phase it will set you back a lot. As i said it depends on external factors.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 06:04 PM
1

Where’s the 50% figure coming from? Not familiar with that number. https://www.nature.com/articles/s41380-018-0263-6#:~:text=Human%20personality%20is%2030%E2%80%9360,but%20few%20have%20been%20identified. Can you tell me which part of my biology precludes me from doing the things that I do? As in, making friends and all that? What part of my biology precludes me from learning how to talk to women? I can guarantee you that you can’t name it, and the reason is because it’s extremely granular and us…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 06:02 PM
-1

You are forgetting an important variable here and that's how good looking the guy is
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 05:56 PM
1

So you are good-looking and the postive reinforcement made you devolop good social skills. An ugly guy who only gets negative reinforcement won't be able to
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 05:53 PM
1

yes but they won't be charming ladies men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 03:27 PM
0

Because game assumes everyone is a people person.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 02:53 PM
1

You don't get it. Being introvert means you intrests in talking to people and actually caring to entertain them is diminished. You have to be a people person in order to be charming.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 02:52 PM
0

That's what redpillers say
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 02:50 PM
0

There is a difference between men and women though. Men care about women as a whole while women care about what a man can do or be. So men are more forgiving towards women when it comes to their insecurities. You should say these things to women because most of them have insecurities but want their man to have unshakeable confidence lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 02:48 PM
-1

It's neither 100% genetics nor learned it's something placed upon you based on your childhood. Go to any kinder garden or middle school and you'll notice different personalities existing. There will be a funny charming kid who is popular in class and there are people who are ostracized and have no friends. most of the time the charming kids grow up to be chaming adults. Getting a degree is unironically easier than changing your personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 02:46 PM
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50% of personality is genetic. So it's definitely not just nurture, but even if it's nurture it doesn't really matter does it since it's also not a choice. You can't control your childhood experinces and your environment so how you end up as an adult is the same thing. For example, someone who has been bullied a lot as a child ends up being quite and reserved and because of that he doesn't care about the thing normal extroverted people care about like making people laugh, making connections or f…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 02:42 PM
0

but you need to be like him if you are unattractive and want to have success with women like the redpillers make it out to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 02:07 PM
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it's not i am saying to not try. but redpillers make it seem like everyone can become Kevin hart if they wanted to lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 02:04 PM
0

then you are as shy and awkward as you think you are. you can't act like something you are not and if you have the ability to act then maybe your issue is not that bad. like right now I am able to do that because my social anxiety isn't as bad as a few years back but that is because my social anxiety improved not because i learned how to act.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 01:34 PM
-2

but again that's you and besides, I don't know why you were shy. everyone's situation is different.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 01:04 PM
-2

it's a skill based on external factors. if someone is making jokes but no one is laughing he will stop making jokes because he isn't funny. if someone is charming since he was young and everyone accepts him then he will keep doing that. it's like me learning how to drive because i can do it on my own.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 01:02 PM
2

Suicide rates?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 12:14 PM
1

Lol okay
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 06:25 PM
4

women never cared about men's struggles in the first place and men accepted that a long time ago and that's why men form their own groups and mostly try to make it male-dominated. nowadays more men care about women than the opposite and using what happened 50+ years ago as a justification seems silly.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 02:14 PM
2

Well guys see other guys as good for absolutely nothing, just competition and never really equal, so it's even worse! The value of a man in society and to other men is pretty much his skillset and that can roughly be defined by his hourly wage or how much he can charge for consultation. (Physical dominance, being socially savvy and entertaining play a small part too) no, most men really don't care about what a stranger is doing with their lives. nor do they care to compete. people do just what t…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 02:12 PM
2

You still got pussy so you are not really saying anything
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 09:53 PM
1

And it is extremely pessimistic at an unrealistic level; I have spoken to Incels who feel bad because "there are divorces" and "marriages...". And they haven't even given their first kiss.It is not reasonable to worry about all the viscitude that human relationships have if you have not had any. I have made an account just to tell you. It doesn't make sense for you to keep it that way. I don't know what will work for you, but if you've ended up in the BlackPill I guess you're a brain person, but…
/r/ExRedPill31/10/22 07:45 PM
1

Because that's not a reason to kill people. I'm pretty sure there are other narcissistic and autistic people out there, did they kill other people? It all depends on the circumstances. A narcissist feels no empathy so it's not like they don't kill because they are a good person. Elliot was suicidal too so that why he went and did his attack. He also didn't want help unfortunately. He just wants to fuck and it became his downfall, all the help he's been given hasn't been productive at all. He has…
/r/seduction30/10/22 01:01 PM
-1

Why are people here acting like the guy didn't have a narcissistic personality disorder and autism. He didn't really have a choice in this matter. Rip elliot
/r/seduction29/10/22 08:35 PM
4

Super outlier
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 07:40 PM
4

They don't need to though.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 05:30 AM
2

Well redpill men are delusional in that aspect because the wall doesn't exist.
/r/ExRedPill09/09/22 06:00 PM
2

Attitude comes from previous experience. No matter how you think about it peoppe can't change their personality just like that. Also, i already improving. I lost over 100 lbs, got over a big issue of my social anxiety, started going to the gym to build muscle, made friends and started being more social and all that. Despite all of that it really didn't help and it seems i am no where near normal level yet. So am quite tired of the "just keep trying bro" messages i keep receiving
/r/ExRedPill08/09/22 05:49 PM
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"Just wait decades bro" sounds so exciting can't wait 😐
/r/ExRedPill08/09/22 08:28 AM
2

Never said it was all personality, bruh. I said your chances at dating and sex is if you reframe your shitty outlook on it, get a hobby, clean yourself up as best as you can, work on your social skills, find something that gives you more confidence. Get out of your echo chambers and learn about yourself, about women, about relationships, about communication, about friendship, etc. Did all that didn't help. At this point am burnt out from all the advice i get from people who don't get it. Besides…
/r/ExRedPill08/09/22 08:26 AM
1

"Women always manage to reproduce more than men." Umm, what does this even mean? It takes two to make a baby. Men have controlled women using marriage and childbirth as tools since marriage became a thing. Women DO exist. So do men. It means we have more female ancestors than men. Look it up. Dating and relationships cover a lot of the same ground; the relevant points translate just fine. There are very few people on this earth who are truly unattractive. And even if you somehow are correct, and…
/r/ExRedPill08/09/22 08:24 AM
2

Reality: Women have the ability to have sex easier than men. However much of the extra opportunity for sex women have women don’t want. And the sex they do want tends to end not in the way they want which is usually a relationship. Reality, they choose these kinds of men so they have themselves to blame. Also, you are acting as if women don't participate in the casual sex scene. Funny how chad goes on tinder and gets all these women but then to your average man "women are not like that" seems to…
/r/ExRedPill08/09/22 08:22 AM
2

No. We can date sure. We can have sex sure. But are we safe? Will these men hurt us? Are they boyfriend material? Will they assault us?!! Am I even attracted to him? Most of the time they don't. Also am not just taking about relationships but dating in general and having sex. It's not easier by a long shot being a woman. A good man who is secure and can lead me and be a provider if I want to have a baby is rare as they are taken already. Not really intrested in becoming a provider for someone. I…
/r/ExRedPill08/09/22 08:19 AM
0

I know that already but becuase dating nowadays are more casual there are more women who can participate than men meaning that logically speaking it would create incels either way. casual mostly is about looks too
/r/ExRedPill08/09/22 08:12 AM
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The funny thing is i don't really care about my looks that much anymore. I know am ugly but it is what it is. My personality is just no normie type and no matter what i do from therapy to self help books it just doesn't get better. I truly believe most incels are incels because of mental issues and personality disorders. Am currently lifting weights and stuff but not really for women anymore.
/r/ExRedPill08/09/22 01:52 AM
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Bruh we both know how important looks are so stop saying it's all personality. You are single but does that matter? You can still date if you want and have sex. I can't because of looks and personality. I only "whine" on reddit
/r/ExRedPill08/09/22 01:33 AM
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Everyone has issues. No one ever has sprung into life knowing exactly how to be the kind of person they want to be. Life is literally about figure this out as you go. That does not have anything to do with being attractive to the opposite gender. No, am saying not everyone needs to work on themselves. You are making the assumption that everyone is improving themselves to be attractive to the opposite sex while incels are not and am saying that people are attractive just because they are It almos…
/r/ExRedPill08/09/22 01:31 AM
-1

I know it's true for relationship but if you can't even get a single date then emotional intelligence is the least thing i should be worrying about.
/r/ExRedPill08/09/22 01:19 AM
2

Ironic coming from your post, but okay i guess.
/r/ExRedPill08/09/22 01:15 AM
1

Wrong. Most men get a date by simply being. You really don't "earn" unless you are some how defective and have to actually see dating as an achievable goal and not something that "just happens" like for most people. And that alone kinda turns me off a but. Simply looking at it as a goal to be achieved while the woman just comes across me kinda feels pathetic imo. Am more intrested in just becoming happy alone and not have the mentality of me just coping because i am lonley. Besides, i reached an…
/r/ExRedPill08/09/22 01:14 AM
2

For me, it's not about ambition tbh. It's mostly depression and the fact that "lemon not worth the squeeze" type thing. It seems to me if i need to climb a mountain to just get rewarded with mediocrity then is the climb really worth it? It's not like ill be chad or something I'd just be a below average guy who sometimes gets a date here and there and am not intrested in that. Right now i don't really care that much about girls as i used to few years back but it still bothers me but i don't reall…
/r/ExRedPill08/09/22 01:09 AM
-1

Enlighten me then, what do women want?
/r/ExRedPill07/09/22 10:44 PM
1

have to achieve enlightenment in order to get a date'. And yes, women absolutely do get the same messages. And also, no. I am NOT assuming incels haven't tried or aren't willing to try. If anything, I think incels ARE trying, but are, for whatever reason, missing a step or two in there somewhere that's holding them back. And within my experience, those steps generally involve self work. They don't get it as much lately. Nowadays it's seem that message men are getting. Even the recent on in psych…
/r/ExRedPill07/09/22 10:29 PM
2

Yeah that sums it up.
/r/ExRedPill07/09/22 10:23 PM
1

Never said one night stand. Am saying casual dating fwb and such. A lot of relationship nowadays fall into that category. Also, am talking about dating as a whole is easy mode.
/r/ExRedPill07/09/22 10:22 PM
-2

Not really. I already know what women want so i don't need to ask them.
/r/ExRedPill07/09/22 10:21 PM
1

What do you define as BP becuase i don't really like to just say BP and leave it at that because i don't agree with everything they say. so what elements of the BP you claim psychologists disagree in?
/r/ExRedPill07/09/22 10:14 PM
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My point is that dating and sex is not the be all end all of the human experience. I've done both and most of the time it was absolutely subpar. And the only person I did enjoy having sex with ended up being an abuser who messed up my life so badly that more than 10 years later I'm still dealing with the aftermath. That's my experience. That's your experince true. So you really won't be able to convince someone who hasn't had that experience for themselves. There is nothing more pathetic and ado…
/r/ExRedPill07/09/22 10:13 PM
-1

Women don't have it on "easy mode." The only benefit to being a woman, if you can call it that, is that it's easy to have bad, meaningless sex with dudes who don't care about you, and that's only because a lot of men have low standards when it comes to sex. I find it funny how women always say the same thing yet participate in it anyways. In the end, women have the choice to want to have sex. If their experinces are bad then that's on them since they choose these kinds of men. Also, if you say d…
/r/ExRedPill07/09/22 10:06 PM
2

I don't know what kind would be of help in the first place because i have tried different methods and for some reason it doesn't help. Guess the ultimate detox for an incel would be to just have good experiences with women and that include sexual because otherwise you'd just be talking in beliefs of men who have said experiences and that would create some form of cognitive dissonance. Am not saying i don't want to change am saying is what can be changed in the first place because a lot of it is …
/r/ExRedPill07/09/22 09:56 PM
2

Blackpill talking points are designed to reinforce those negative thoughts. It's definitely not the truth, but I can see how it would be very enticing to be a part of group that reinforces your negative thoughts. You know even if i somehow left the blackpill thinking and started having success with women i still will hold the same beliefs. It's not that controversial tbh and i don't know why people don't want to admit it. you want to give up on dating and just try to enjoy life without dating, t…
/r/ExRedPill07/09/22 09:52 PM
1

Blackpill isn't one thing set in stone. It's not a religion or something. A lot of incels disagree with each other. Psychologist haven't unlocked the secrets of dating either. Also, the things i said can be observed all over internet and irl too. am saying things i see and what i am seeing seem to agree with bp talking points.
/r/ExRedPill07/09/22 09:47 PM
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Not everything has to be because of expectations. Incels want to date and just can't and they are unhappy because of it. It's not becuase they are expected to date. it's because everyone else is dating while they are not. Also they are sexual beings with wants and needs too. Women are not as shamed anymore though. Nowadays i see more virgin shaming that slut shaming tbh. In the end, women with high body count is still more valuable than incels because they still get to date. They also don't need…
/r/ExRedPill07/09/22 09:44 PM
1

How many experts of human relationships, experts of human social behaviour, in other words psychologists, do you think hold black pill as a valid model of human relationships and social behaviour? I really don't think they'd disagree with incels a lot. Ofc a charming extrovert who is average will have a lot of postive experinces with women. A lot of incels don't disagree with that but a lot of psychology is also genetic too and am sure they'd tell you people don't choose their personality. Am sa…
/r/ExRedPill07/09/22 09:31 PM
2

Yes when it comes to dating. I don't get your point here.
/r/ExRedPill07/09/22 09:27 PM
1

I never said women's life is easier. Am talking about dating and it is easier when it comes to dating as a woman. There is something wrong when people are gaslight into believing that they are unattractive because somehow they missed an improvement train that everyone else managed to get on. Everyone is flawed and tbh the concept of "you have to achive enlightenment in order to get a date" is harmful and only men get this kind of message lately. Also improvement is not an always upward battle. Y…
/r/ExRedPill07/09/22 09:22 PM
2

I agree with the song but my topic is dating and in dating women do have it easier. I never said their life is easier.
/r/ExRedPill07/09/22 09:13 PM
4

I think that's an over simplification. If people can teach themselves these things as if we exist in a vacuum then we wouldn't have so many problems. experinces matter a lot.
/r/ExRedPill07/09/22 09:11 PM
-6

Because i already know what they want and that's not me lol.
/r/ExRedPill07/09/22 09:10 PM
1

I think the BP talks about a lot of things from sociology, biology and psychology. They all influence each other, but i guess the experts here would be psychologists.
/r/ExRedPill07/09/22 09:07 PM
1

the most important thing here is who gets the experience. The unattractive male experience is no experince while the the unattractive female's is an experience that may sometimes be negative. So from my perspective it is easy mode for women otherwise the incel phenomenon wouldn't be a mostly male thing.
/r/ExRedPill07/09/22 09:05 PM
0

Why would i ask what women want?
/r/ExRedPill07/09/22 09:01 PM
2

It really wouldn't. The reason these things exist in the first place is because there was no alternative. A lonley man looking for advice will encounter RP content and that would push him into blackpill. What alternative do incels have?
/r/ExRedPill07/09/22 08:53 PM
1

Then biology mostly
/r/ExRedPill07/09/22 08:51 PM
0

The blackpill, which emphasizes the "science" and quotes multiple articles as a proof, but the methodology and results are often not the greatest, leading to limited applicability in real world. How is what i said is not true? It can be observed all over the internet and irl too. People from blackpill communities and gurus have no good intentions towards you. They know that people are acting desperate (like you through this post) and they freely feed their narration. Not like those people want t…
/r/ExRedPill07/09/22 08:50 PM
1

Yeah, am saying how can you have an absence of it when our society is what creates these kinds of men? Sure there would be no blackpilled men but lonley and unattractive men would still be a thing.
/r/ExRedPill07/09/22 07:43 PM
0

Dating mostly
/r/ExRedPill07/09/22 07:42 PM
-5

What do you mean "outlet" it's just what it is.
/r/ExRedPill07/09/22 07:33 PM
1

That's bs though and reality doesn't show that. What reality show is the 80/20 it doesn't show unattractive guys having good results. While unattractive women can get success in online dating.
/r/ExRedPill07/09/22 05:28 PM
1

Yet women all over the globe are in abusive relationships and complaining about their partners. Gg wp
/r/ExRedPill07/09/22 05:16 PM
1

We live in a clown world
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 10:10 AM
2

Be thankful that this is your personality trait and not the total opposite of being quite introvert. A lot of women like this personality of yours
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 10:10 AM
7

I think most people who are resentful tend to still be unattractive virgins after passing the median age of having sex like incels for example. So yes am still resentful for being 22 and a virgin but even if i lost it nowadays i won't really look at romance and relationships like i did at 15 because i missed teenage love. At this point i just want a fuck buddy and nothing more.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 10:08 AM
-3

Is only selfish when you are unattractive lol
/r/MensRights30/07/22 05:08 PM
8

I personally don't care. It's their choice to enter sex work
/r/MensRights30/07/22 09:01 AM
19

Then explain why more men are having less sex than ever? If what you are saying it's true then we should witness the opposite since slut shaming isn't as big as it was 20 years ago but look where we at now.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 07:50 PM
4

Just be a charming comedian, bro.
/r/seduction13/07/22 03:18 PM
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