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The entire thing smacks of being led to believe all his life that women should be worshipped for being empathetic, wise, and more-than-human, deserving of worshipful and gentlemanly respect (which would, of course, be rewarded, since women are empathetic and wise enough to appreciate it). Are you fucking kidding me? He was led all his life to believe that he DESERVED and was ENTITLED to female company. He fucking shot and killed several women. He did not worship or praise them in any way and you…
/r/MensRights25/05/14 04:10 AM
-2

Hmm, interesting, almost comparable to the constant suspicion that you might actually get murdered because someone else is frustrated that they've never kissed a woman.
/r/MensRights25/05/14 03:59 AM
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How are either of them trolling...
/r/MensRights24/03/14 05:14 PM
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What if racism is justified? bye
/r/MensRights08/03/14 02:42 AM
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Snap! Got 'er good, you did.
/r/MensRights24/02/14 04:23 PM
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what
/r/MensRights24/02/14 12:05 AM
-5

I'm a fully grown mountain troll. You implied it was a lot easier to be celibate because you don't have to worry about gaining consent. I don't really care to debate this lmao, it's fairly straightfoward and I don't actually care to convince anyone declaring themselves MGTOW.
/r/MensRights21/02/14 06:16 PM
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The U.S. Department of Justice found Missoula County Attorney’s prosecutors routinely discriminated against female victims, refusing legitimate cases, pushing sex crimes to the lowest of priorities and belittling women who came to them for help. Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/boys-boys-mont-prosecutor-tells-5-year-old-rape-victim-mom-report-article-1.1616670#ixzz2tyr6f2oo And that's not just one case either, this is an issue that plaques a whole county. Shall I go on? Perhap…
/r/MensRights21/02/14 06:05 PM
-3

Stop feeding me with bullshit and I'll gladly leave.
/r/MensRights21/02/14 05:55 PM
-10

Yea, it's soooo much easier to live without the pressure of making sure my partner is consenting.
/r/MensRights21/02/14 05:38 PM
-18

I don't know, MRAs and red pill types seem to enjoy exploiting them. *Also, I like how literally you are comparing actually being raped to a woman who enjoys rough sex.
/r/MensRights21/02/14 05:28 PM
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Lol and what's the conviction rate for rapists? The point is is that if you have a pussy all you gotta say is "he looked at me funny" and my ass is in handcuffs because I have a dick. Transphobic and ridiculous. You are literally a walking caricature of the MRA narrative. You don't even know how difficult it is to have sexual harassment/abuse and rape taken seriously, and spouting that it's women abusing a "privilege" they have to take men to court on frivolous accusations is already a common be…
/r/MensRights21/02/14 04:49 PM
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Damn.
/r/MensRights21/02/14 04:26 PM
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Lol this sub is full of brilliance if spouting the "women just want to be victims" narrative is considered genius.
/r/MensRights21/02/14 02:05 PM
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Gender penalty is not way harsher than the race penalty. 1 in 3 black men. 1 in 17 white men. don't waste money on me". And they CHOOSE not to. See what I'm getting at? ;) Then they can remove SSS SSS =\= the draft. Please clarify this in your original argument. forced military service is a thing in many countries Not "many" countries. The countries without a draft far outnumber the countries with one. And, be honest, MRAs give fuckall about said countries and only use this to bash anyone who po…
/r/MensRights21/02/14 11:51 AM
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You mean like the draft? We are forced into that. What draft? You mean like circumcision? That is force. Agreed. You mean like losing child custody cases disproportionately. That is force. If you CHOOSE to opt for child custody, there is a 50/50 chance you will receive it. Most cases never happen as men do not opt for it. See how the "it's their CHOICE" argument can easily be turned against you? You mean like getting longer sentences in prison for the exact same crimes as women. That is force. F…
/r/MensRights20/02/14 08:53 PM
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Lol look at how many men of note (politicians, celebrities, etc.) have the ideal body type/are judged if they don't versus the same for women. That will probably explain why men tend to have fewer body image issues. Also men aren't expected to be huge bodybuilders... Also, that "you aren't FORCED to do etc." can be applied to a lot of mens' issues in turn and I'd be careful if you're using that as your argument.
/r/MensRights20/02/14 08:16 PM
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The beauty industry doesn't create the demand What is advertising and the media? I've never heard of the self esteem epidemic. I think what we have is a narcissism epidemic. You're trying to show women who buy beauty products in a bad light, I get it, but it's pretty old by now and kinda unnecessary. We should teach women not to place their worth on being beautiful in the first place Agreed. Y'know, I heard about a movement that does that! What was it called...
/r/MensRights20/02/14 07:23 PM
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And differences in sexual violence rates are used by sexists to justify female supremacy. Yes but let's focus on reality. Then studying differences in intellectual development(regardless of the measure) is important to understand the effects of poverty. Of all the effects of poverty you want to study the intelligence of those in poverty? Your motives behind this? And we already know that those in poverty tend to score lower on just about every standardized test out there.
/r/MensRights20/02/14 06:51 PM
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Make-up has been used for thousands of years by both men and women, what you mean is the beauty industry, and how is it caused by women when the majority of people behind the magazines and industries behind beauty products are men? It's women being manipulated so they can make money. Not caused by them in the least. Women choosing to feel insecure about every aspect of themselves...lol, yea. Fun fact, this self-esteem epidemic only happens in the west. I.E. Where the beauty industry operates the…
/r/MensRights20/02/14 06:28 PM
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What does it have anything to do with studying the differences of sexual violence rates in men and women? And although studying IQ differences isn't racist in and of itself, I question the motives behind it as 1. IQ is a botched measure of intelligence 2. Differences in IQ scores often result from poverty and lower standard education, we know this already and 3. More often than not racial IQ differences are used by white supremacists to justify racism.
/r/MensRights20/02/14 06:17 PM
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K
/r/MensRights20/02/14 03:37 PM
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Lol yea take a picture when she doesn't have hair and makeup done to try and lower her self esteem so she's not too uppity for you lol nice lol
/r/MensRights20/02/14 01:29 PM
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If we can't study statistical IQ differences in the races because it's racist and might cast some races in a bad light, then how the FUCK can feminists justify studying statistical differences in the rate of sexual violence between men and women? What the fuck?
/r/MensRights20/02/14 01:19 PM
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Gender is irrelevant tho, prisons are set out to get black men. If that's a cop out answer to you, we've already stopped talking. Sorry.
/r/MensRights12/02/14 05:43 PM
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I disagree with the western courts as a whole, they're motivated by an industrial prison complex and a need for privatized prison labor. Remove that (i.e. Remove capitalism) and then we'll talk all you want about sentencing, since most sentencing is men of color, particularly black men for victimless drug-related crimes.
/r/MensRights12/02/14 01:59 PM
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Should men and women who commit the same crimes be given the same sentences? Yea sure fight to ensure either harsher penalties for women or more gentle ones for men? This is such a ridiculous question holy shit check yourself before you fucking post.
/r/MensRights12/02/14 02:15 AM
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like men since time began Well in the case of America conscription began in the Civil War. Like I get you're trying to romanticize how horrible history was to men and only men but try to get your facts straight. how are you feminists fighting for equality there? Why for fucks sake would anyone be fighting to be included in the fucking draft. Oh wait, because unless we do every single thing men are doing, we're cheating the system, right? Not to mention feminists fought AGAINST the draft in gener…
/r/MensRights11/02/14 07:17 PM
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Uh..no. It isn't the fault of feminism at all? This method of schooling has been in place in western nations far longer than feminism has been relevant, in fact it's the fault of The Industrial Revolution creating the need for mindless factory workers that would be far less likely to strike/quit/revolt against the horrible conditions, and capitalism. Blaming feminism for this makes no sense, as feminists are not the CEOs, overseers, managers, bosses that employ wage slaves and requre a steady su…
/r/MensRights04/02/14 04:31 PM
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lol
/r/MensRights03/02/14 03:56 AM
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Hate? Where's the hate on her blog? And since you're against hate, why can't she keep it out of her comment section?
/r/MensRights01/02/14 10:46 PM
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So she can't just keep those people out of her own comment section? Oh no, someone won't let me throw slurs at them! My free speech! You're putting down dissent!!
/r/MensRights01/02/14 03:10 PM
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I don't think she wanted your company, hence the policy.
/r/MensRights31/01/14 05:06 PM
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I'd love to reply with every single disgusting vile thing those presidents have done with an even bigger grin. I guess men are better suited to being politicians. Oh, wait, this was supposed to be your "gotcha", wasn't it? My bad!
/r/MensRights31/01/14 04:31 PM
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^ I think this plenty explains her policy. /thread
/r/MensRights31/01/14 04:21 PM
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I would describe police as sociopaths. Anyway, only to another sociopath or perhaps capitalist thinker would a relationship between two human beings boil down to a contract. Stop thinking that both sides have to "give" something for a relationship to be "valuable". You are in no place to either decide this or decide WHAT is valuable. This is sort of a gross red pill argument really.
/r/MensRights24/01/14 12:17 PM
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Who are they supposed to be "benefitting"? What "costs"? Who determines the "cost" of a human being other than a sociopath?
/r/MensRights23/01/14 04:19 PM
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"What use are you?" Excuse me?
/r/MensRights22/01/14 07:18 PM
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Heh
/r/MensRights14/01/14 04:25 PM
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what...to fuck??
/r/MensRights13/01/14 02:48 PM
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Pretending to wear negative karma like a badge doesn't excuse or lessen the fact that you're sexualizing a trans woman and called her "convincing".
/r/MensRights13/01/14 02:29 PM
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Lol get over yourself babe
/r/MensRights02/01/14 04:21 PM
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;)
/r/MensRights01/01/14 07:01 PM
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bahahahaha
/r/MensRights31/12/13 06:58 PM
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No, no he really didn't.
/r/MensRights26/12/13 07:58 PM
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Anything can be criticized, sorry.
/r/MensRights25/12/13 08:56 PM
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Not MRAs.
/r/MensRights02/12/13 06:28 PM
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Forgive me if I format this terribly but we can cope without them We'd love to see that.
/r/MensRights02/12/13 06:18 PM
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Yea, all those women-run PUA blogs ranting and raving about entitled women. Who has you at gunpoint making you not only ask a woman on a date, but paying her way as well? (Although I think it's proper etiquette to pay if you're the asker, but w/e) And that isn't as much of a cultural norm. Women pay on their dates all the time? It's a pretty common thing to go dutch, as well. Then I notice you're going through my post history and responding to a lot of it. lol
/r/MensRights02/12/13 04:04 PM
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It's the fact that not that many people, if any people at all, are saying Movember in and of itself is sexist, but thanks.
/r/MensRights02/12/13 03:54 PM
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No one else has stated this basic thing over and over and over again. The vast majority of people ranting about and perpetuating that cliche are, who woulda thunk, MRAs. Don't try to "le STEM". It's not your thing That's adorable. "Women should get promoted over you because women are better but also women are delicate flowers so you must pay for their dinners and buy them fancy gifts even if they earn more than you" I don't..see many women that aren't 59 and bitter saying things like this? I gue…
/r/MensRights02/12/13 03:34 PM
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An article on a not particularly popular website isn't tooooo convincing, not to mention it's not even that questionable. It is worth thinking about that white men are highlighted although this affects black men far more, and yea a lot of body shaming, but this article and this entire site doesn't seem nearly as influential as you think it is, and for good reason. frankly reading through their responses is often far worse than whatever they've managed to quote mine. Pretty sure this is just beca…
/r/MensRights02/12/13 02:57 PM
1

How about you show me specific examples because all I'm seeing are girls mad that they're still shamed for not shaving their legs, both here on reddit and on tumblr, and the occasional "lol but MRAs didn't start movember and still they claim it as activism" Also They certainly do, just not for the reasons they think. What?
/r/MensRights02/12/13 02:02 PM
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Sure! COMPLETE avoidance, yup! It's just that no matter what I say it's "incoherent", if only I could just copy your arguments and become a new rashunal being! (psst, if you still want the last word, I'll give it to you, you can even be snarkier than me!)
/r/MensRights02/12/13 01:45 PM
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Putting women in power is not empowerment, it is assimilation into a system that doesn't care for its people, men or women. but yea feminism is doing work behind the scenes guise
/r/MensRights02/12/13 01:33 PM
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How about you link me outright? Not to mention TiA is kind of..ehh, shakey so to speak. Tumblr has a lot of people and while it is home to your average feminist it is also home to TERFs, neo-nazis, racists, transphobes..TiA of course is going to show you more of the latter than the former, it's the purpose of the subreddit, just like SRS shows you the worst of reddit.
/r/MensRights02/12/13 01:22 PM
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Movember, by tackling a cancer only that can only develop in one sex is sexist and exclusionary. This in itself is transexclusive so I wonder if you realize you are taking complaints from a wide range of feminists that PROBABLY disagree with eachother and don't realize it? Tl;dr because it isn't about feminists or run by feminists, it is the enemy that must be shuddered into silence at all costs. Wasn't getting that notion at all, actually.
/r/MensRights02/12/13 12:17 PM
0

Oh my god you accuse me of making assumptions after making so many assumptions about my political background it's just precious. Isn't that the post-racial world you guys dream about? AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA WHAT PLANET DO YOU LIVE ON Because I want everyone to be white-passing and completely disregard their heritage in an effort to be "THE SAME AND EQUAL EVERY TIME" because I'm some dirty librul, right? I mean, I'm disagreeing with you, so obviously I have to be! know that racial stereotypes are far fr…
/r/MensRights02/12/13 12:04 PM
1

But..it seems that far more people aren't? First off, herbivore men is a strictly Japanese phenomenon, peter pan syndrome often refers to the type of man you see in his mother's basement, and "where have all the good men gone" was written by one woman. People, or women, don't care nearly as much as you think they do, and I think that scares you, because otherwise how could you feel good about yourself? And why, now that women don't necessarily NEED a man in their lives, do men no longer have a p…
/r/MensRights02/12/13 11:54 AM
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It's really the sense that "Wow, you did a lot of fucked up shit in the past, I don't think I want to listen to you." It's not ad hom if it's pointing out a legitimate fact, i.e. Not listening to Hitler talk about animal rights because he is literally committing/otherwise advocating genocide at the same time. It would be best to spurn people who preach toxic beliefs, despite a few pieces of chocolate amongst their piles of shit.
/r/MensRights02/12/13 03:06 AM
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c:
/r/MensRights02/12/13 02:49 AM
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Smaller autonomous communities with wireless communication tech and trading routes Well sure, in fact being a communist myself it isn't that aspect of the idea that I disagree with, but the whole "That'll show dose darn SJWs!!" "They'll just lie around and bitch without us!" sentiment just makes the idea lose all credibility. It's just a disgusting concept that is far too common in MRA-MGTOW circles. You'll totally round up every working man and make them abandon society so you can listen to wom…
/r/MensRights02/12/13 02:38 AM
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Lol, wow. *nevar4get downvoted for laughing at a guy basically saying that women can't cope without men neener neener neener
/r/MensRights02/12/13 02:28 AM
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Do you really need me to tell you what is wrong with just about everything in this post? *Lol nevermind, posts in TRP, not bothering with you.
/r/MensRights02/12/13 12:05 AM
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Ok, seriously? Posters need to stop the whole "off the grid" bullshit. You don't know what you're talking about.
/r/MensRights01/12/13 11:16 PM
-1

Ideas are separate from the people who advocate them. Not always. Death of the author sometimes cannot apply. For example, a white nationalist advocating..well, anything. Fun fact, Adolf Hitler advocated for animal rights. However, I wouldn't give him the time of day for obvious reasons.
/r/MensRights01/12/13 06:49 PM
3

So now we have NAMRAALT?
/r/MensRights01/12/13 05:09 PM
1

Thanks.
/r/MensRights01/12/13 04:33 PM
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*she is a she
/r/MensRights01/12/13 12:09 AM
-1

lol
/r/MensRights30/11/13 09:22 PM
1

I can tell you are a woman just form this statement haha oh wow
/r/MensRights30/11/13 09:10 PM
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This proves nothing. Nope! Stereotypes can be harmful, especially some that are so entrenched in public consciousness that it starts to seriously affect people! Inb4 stereotypes that white men tend to be more successful harming white men! are you even aware how many hollywood stars are Jewish? Wow, look at all those white-passing Jews that rarely bring up their heritage! I can think maybe of Natalie Portman as one rare example of someone not only taking pride in their heritage, but going so far …
/r/MensRights30/11/13 07:17 PM
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Such humanity, wow
/r/MensRights30/11/13 06:42 PM
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the Jewish and Asian minorities are success stories in North America, and that influences the way they're viewed and treated This is heavily debateable, considering the have truckloads of stereotypes to deal with and a fuckton of invisibility in media and other works unless they're a gross stereotype or a fetish. Link me to the argument, because I'm pretty sure you've misunderstood it. You might say I misunderstood it, but I see it it was essentially typhonblue trying to derail and then accusing…
/r/MensRights30/11/13 03:28 PM
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Seriously?
/r/MensRights30/11/13 05:34 AM
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Except for the part where we've repeatedly said that men's problems are doubled for black or latino men. That's maybe happened all of twice on this subreddit and I remember arguing for this against, guess who, typhonblue! Apparently any bit of intersectionality in this movement is divide and conquer. Who would've guessed.
/r/MensRights30/11/13 02:34 AM
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Funny, I've been in quite a few situations where that attitude of "Nah, they're faking it" fuck up someone's life completely.
/r/MensRights29/11/13 11:29 PM
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Well they are brigaded pretty damn often.
/r/MensRights27/11/13 04:48 PM
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Lol
/r/MensRights27/11/13 02:39 PM
-9

Ghandi was a disgusting pervert, and don't you dare compare the MRM to the civil rights movement.
/r/MensRights27/11/13 02:06 PM
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"Normal" families.
/r/MensRights27/11/13 01:48 PM
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It's heavily implied throughout your post that you don't care to. Not to mention it's not even true. (Also, not being fuckable diminishing a woman's value..lolwow)
/r/MensRights27/11/13 01:38 PM
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Unwilling to change it regardless.
/r/MensRights27/11/13 02:42 AM
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I'm the troll..?
/r/MensRights27/11/13 01:17 AM
1

A yes, a learning quest. Hopefully I'll come back with a bootstraps mindset and start campaigning to restrict foodstamps and welfare. Maybe even lowering the minimum wage if I'm feeling frisky. And I honestly can't understand why you can so easily dismiss people starving as "not a big deal". Is an issue of the MRM not homeless men? Was I mistaken in thinking so?
/r/MensRights26/11/13 10:28 PM
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lol Take your self-important upper middle-class bullshit and shove it back up your ass, you have no idea what the fuck you're talking about. http://www.worldhunger.org/articles/Learn/us_hunger_facts.htm According to the last American census, "In 2010, 17.2 million households, 14.5 percent of households (approximately one in seven), were food insecure, the highest number ever recorded in the United States 1 (Coleman-Jensen 2011, p. v.)" Keep thinking that people below the poverty line "deserve" t…
/r/MensRights26/11/13 10:03 PM
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Are you being serious right now?
/r/MensRights26/11/13 07:22 PM
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What...
/r/MensRights26/11/13 07:02 PM
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Hey, just outta curiosity, how about white men in poverty? Nah, they deserve to starve too, right?
/r/MensRights26/11/13 06:31 PM
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U r SOOOO FUNNY!! Does being a jackass to everyone that isn't like you give you tinglies in your belly?
/r/MensRights26/11/13 06:21 PM
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Burn in hell.
/r/MensRights26/11/13 06:05 PM
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"That is the way it is" - someone who benefits from "the way it is" and doesn't want it to change.
/r/MensRights26/11/13 05:54 PM
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Try making it a day without anything made from China or a third world country. Welcome to the real world. Also GDP doesn't mean shit.
/r/MensRights26/11/13 05:42 PM
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I didn't realize it was mostly white males working in sweatshops overseas.
/r/MensRights26/11/13 03:32 PM
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Nah, I don't need a brigade, dontcha worry. c: The party will be at the center of misandry and feeeeeeemale superiority, I assume you know the spot?
/r/MensRights25/11/13 06:36 PM
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Do you do birthday parties?
/r/MensRights25/11/13 06:26 PM
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Cute. The whole "feminism is for EVERYONE" is a newer, third wave concept made so that men could stomach feminism more easily. Essentially, "peak librul" feminism. Feminism is a movement for women's liberation. Now, please, store your straw somewhere else. (Edited for ~flow~)
/r/MensRights25/11/13 06:16 PM
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"WHY AREN'T WOMEN GOING INTO MILITARY FORCES?!" "LOL LOOK AT THESE WOMEN WHO COULDN'T GET INTO MILITARY FORCES"
/r/MensRights25/11/13 05:58 PM
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Them's the breaks.
/r/MensRights25/11/13 04:56 PM
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Not everything can be perfect I suppose. Hopefully the area the mother moves to will be good for the child when it is born.
/r/MensRights25/11/13 04:15 PM
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Isn't right to you, maybe, but she has the right to move, as it's a fetus part of her body. Whether or not it is even born is irrelevant at the time.
/r/MensRights25/11/13 03:55 PM
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Er..training? That's an interesting way to name "being decent".
/r/MensRights25/11/13 03:31 PM
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You can, yea.
/r/MensRights25/11/13 03:17 PM
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Women's movement.
/r/MensRights25/11/13 01:53 PM
-2

Thanks for the input eatstinybaldbabies.
/r/MensRights25/11/13 12:56 PM
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At 7 months, it still isn't a child, and still part of the mother.
/r/MensRights25/11/13 06:09 AM
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I'm not giving anyone a "free pass". And it's REALLY hard to do the whole custody arrangement, since, you know, there's no child present at the time. And how do you know it's just "to spite" the father? Interesting how you assume that.
/r/MensRights25/11/13 02:32 AM
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I'm not saying a child shouldn't see their father, I'm saying you can't force a pregnant woman to stay put because half of her fetus is the father's DNA.
/r/MensRights24/11/13 11:55 PM
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Smoking and drinking while pregnant are completely different issues. You are literally comparing a woman DAMAGING HER FETUS and HERSELF to a pregnant woman moving away from the father. I'm sorry, but you just can't stop a woman from changing residence just because 50% of the fetus in her body is yours. Her body, nothing can change that.
/r/MensRights24/11/13 11:45 PM
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Like what? Are you going to chain her somewhere until she gives birth? When the fetus and the woman are one, the woman does what she wants. No ifs, ands, or buts.
/r/MensRights24/11/13 11:09 PM
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We aren't talking about a baby right now.
/r/MensRights24/11/13 10:28 PM
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How is it one-sided? A fetus is not a child, it is a part of a woman's body. You can't just lock her up because of this. Sure, some may think it's "indecent" for her to move, but not illegal, and she shouldn't have to face legal ramifications for it.
/r/MensRights24/11/13 10:11 PM
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He can't, though. It's in HER body. If you control the fetus, you control her body. So her body, her choice.
/r/MensRights24/11/13 09:13 PM
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Well, no, it's not a child right now, it's a fetus.
/r/MensRights24/11/13 08:42 PM
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I already have though? If I didn't it would be silly for me to make that point, and yes, white feminists have a problem with recognizing issues that do not take place in the west, and issues of women of color and transwomen. Luckily that has been addressed by many others and we can move forward with woc and trans at the helm.
/r/MensRights22/11/13 09:46 AM
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So trying to change the topic from black men to white women isn't distracting? Whatever, just realize that black men suffer from men's issues far more than white men do, to the point that you are hurting more than helping if you lump them together and try to pretend that race won't make a difference.
/r/MensRights22/11/13 09:20 AM
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And I disagree with lumping them in. Typhon was also attempting to distract from men entirely, but w/e, and obviously I can't speak for c0untered although they clearly meant they identify as BLACK MEN, not just men.
/r/MensRights22/11/13 08:58 AM
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Divide and conquer = understanding and acknowledging the huge role race plays
/r/MensRights22/11/13 08:23 AM
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mk
/r/MensRights22/11/13 08:00 AM
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This isn't about me. You've been erasing black men this entire time so you can continually bring up feminism and white women. How hard is it to actually advocate for men?
/r/MensRights21/11/13 06:43 PM
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I was talking about you specifically with that comment. You avoided talking about what black men faced in order to jab women.
/r/MensRights21/11/13 05:51 PM
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..What? And black women do face more issues to a greater extent than white women?
/r/MensRights21/11/13 05:35 PM
-1

You could say that if black and white men were incarcerated equally, separated from their children equally, etc. But they aren't. It's predominately black men being arrested for drug crimes despite more white men being users, it's predominately black men being screwed over in courts. You're looking to fight along the lines of gender when it doesn't have any affect. Help black men. Don't leave them in the dust so you can point elbow jab women.
/r/MensRights21/11/13 05:23 PM
2

I said almost, and saying they affect men "as a whole" is just distracting from how much race affects the issue. See: statistics posted in this very thread. Erasing the plight of black men isn't a good way to go about helping those in prisons, the court systems, and poverty, since they are affected by all three the most, and that is what you are doing by either focusing on white men or lumping men together.
/r/MensRights21/11/13 05:06 PM
-1

But the incarcerations rates of black men pale in comparison to those of white men. Stop bringing in the statistics of women. We're talking about male rights, correct? Then those don't matter right now. I'm talking about white men and black men, and the issues that they face. Black men face them more than white men. The fact that you think it's about being a man alone is naive at best.
/r/MensRights21/11/13 04:56 PM
1

Custody disputes? Incarceration rates and sentence lengths? Prison rape? Don't get me started on "the war on drugs". More like war on men of color/poverty. Honestly the lack of intersectionality in the MRM still shocks me.
/r/MensRights21/11/13 04:38 PM
-1

The issues that affect men affect black men almost exclusively, lol.
/r/MensRights21/11/13 04:28 PM
1

What context, lol
/r/MensRights19/11/13 03:40 PM
2

Thanks for the input cockpit.
/r/MensRights17/11/13 03:12 PM
1

Unfortunately, that hypothesized situation does not detract from rape culture.
/r/MensRights17/11/13 04:59 AM
1

Excusing a rape victim in favor of a football team.
/r/MensRights17/11/13 04:40 AM
1

Both, actually.
/r/MensRights17/11/13 01:29 AM
1

Almost until you realize that there WAS no public outcry when only courts were involved? Only until some anonymous guy (who faces more prisontime than the rapists themselves) exposed it to the public eye?
/r/MensRights17/11/13 01:19 AM
3

Exactly. Look at steubenville.
/r/MensRights15/11/13 06:20 PM
8

Never speak out for yourself?
/r/MensRights15/11/13 06:07 PM
0

So basically you just want more attention on MGM. Why couldn't you just say that in the first place?
/r/MensRights15/11/13 04:55 PM
0

Because banning it totally stopped it from happening. Because caring about FGM means you aren't paying attention to MGM. Because less and less people are performing MGM.
/r/MensRights15/11/13 04:20 PM
1

Good thing I'm not working as a model then???
/r/MensRights15/11/13 02:26 AM
3

Good god.
/r/MensRights14/11/13 11:07 PM
1

Mhm. I think I'll be fine.
/r/MensRights14/11/13 04:33 PM
-1

I was replying to that comment in particular where I believe he stated that feminists, although vying for equality, do not address MGM apparently.
/r/MensRights14/11/13 02:56 PM
9

You need fucking mutual destruction implied in your marriage to keep it together? Your wife is aware that if you should divorce you will post videos of you and her engaging in sex acts publicly to shame her? What in the fuck? I hope to god you're lying.
/r/MensRights14/11/13 02:44 PM
-3

Don't worry, feminists usually approve greatly of MGTOW! Bitter men that outright stop associating with women? Finally! Have fun and don't let the door hit ya on the way out.
/r/MensRights14/11/13 02:34 PM
-5

So where are the MRAs talking about FGM? If you guys are about equality, why aren't you taking on women's issues?
/r/MensRights14/11/13 02:24 PM
-3

Oh my god
/r/MensRights14/11/13 02:14 PM
1

Not if the person is someone who I should not bother arguing with. And telling rape jokes is not a liberty. It never will be. It never can be.
/r/MensRights14/11/13 02:27 AM
1

You really think you should have the liberty to make rape jokes? Get your priorities straight.
/r/MensRights14/11/13 12:23 AM
1

http://rajsivaraman.wordpress.com/2013/06/05/a-scientific-case-against-rape-jokes/ Does a pretty good job of explaining why rape jokes aren't funny and why they contribute to rape culture.
/r/MensRights13/11/13 07:41 PM
1

Hopefully you'll see that not everything can be justified by "freedom".
/r/MensRights13/11/13 06:36 PM
1

This isn't a "life narrative" I've created. And, no, freedom of speech does not give you the right to be an insufferable jackass. I have every right to tell you to cease telling triggering jokes and normalizing the behavior in their content. This whole "voluntaryism" holds little water outwide of libertarian circles.
/r/MensRights13/11/13 06:15 PM
1

Really? Do you? There are many survivors, myself included, who find them insensitive, harsh, and unnecessary. Does that not matter? But when it's ALL I SEE, I have no reason to believe it isn't the case. Rape jokes aren't funny, they're triggering, they should not be used.
/r/MensRights13/11/13 05:47 PM
1

Do you know many survivors who use jokes about rape to cope? I always see them used by insensitive people on the internet, and they often trigger those who went through it.
/r/MensRights13/11/13 04:33 PM
1

No, no, and no. Rape jokes normalize rape. They are not funny. They are not necessary. Late post, but whatever.
/r/MensRights13/11/13 03:21 PM
-5

Lol!
/r/MensRights07/11/13 07:16 PM
-3

Ah, and you present this convo as evidence to your cause, declaring your victory. Thank god you and your ilk will never be taken seriously outside your subreddit and "the manosphere". You are not worth arguing with. Good day.
/r/MensRights07/11/13 07:06 PM
-3

Your poor free speech, I'm so sorry.
/r/MensRights07/11/13 06:56 PM
-1

You said feminism is an echo chamber, when really you're ignoring the discourse that occurs within because it does not cater to you. The thread is in this subreddit. You posted in it. And another odd sarcastic rant where you deliberately misinterpret my post, but honestly I can't expect any different from you. Good day.
/r/MensRights07/11/13 06:30 PM
-3

Mhm So let's ignore all the discourse that goes on within feminism because it doesn't include men. You choose not to see that. And I've seen plenty of mras trivialize rape and abuse against women. That Patrick Stewart thread was a doozy! And of course the good ol' "FEMINISTS CANT LOGIC!" claim, always a good one. This isn't worth anymore of my effort tbh.
/r/MensRights07/11/13 06:19 PM
-7

I'm not misinformed in this respect. The MRM is harmful. I have no idea what you're trying to say. Feminist spaces are heavily censored usually because they are attempting to make a safe space. MRAs who want to derail subjects about rape with "But what about this insanely small percentage of men who are falsely accused?" or "You could have prevented this by.." aren't permitted to post for good reason. No, that is sexist, and you are completely misinterpreting my point. Perhaps on purpose. I doub…
/r/MensRights07/11/13 06:09 PM
-9

I'm sorry, but MOST of the MRM in its entirety IS harmful. And I am sorry, but men do have a tendency to say what they think is right regardless of what circle they are in. It's something feminists deal with often. And it isn't bigotry to consider someones gender when they are suggesting an idea. It gives you background on WHY they are suggesting it. Ideas don't exist in a vacuum. That's just how it is.
/r/MensRights07/11/13 05:59 PM
-6

Many feminists have already had earfuls upon earfuls of what men often think are constructive opinions but are actually either harmful or, at best, irritating. Just look at this subreddit!
/r/MensRights07/11/13 05:42 PM
-7

But, rape jokes are my only defense against feminism!
/r/MensRights07/11/13 03:49 PM
-4

So it has value when it's towards feminists, but not towards you. I see.
/r/MensRights07/11/13 03:27 PM
1

Cute. Try again.
/r/MensRights06/11/13 06:08 PM
1

This is wrong. But I doubt you care. Regardless, allowing those to starve through inaction is violence. No exception.
/r/MensRights06/11/13 05:57 PM
0

200%? Sounds like good odds to me.
/r/MensRights06/11/13 02:58 PM
1

oh the irony
/r/MensRights06/11/13 02:31 PM
0

Except when it's allowing those to starve.
/r/MensRights06/11/13 01:54 PM
0

Letting people starve when they could be cared for is violence.
/r/MensRights05/11/13 09:46 PM
-1

Exactly.
/r/MensRights05/11/13 02:23 PM
2

Pretty shitty satire.
/r/MensRights30/10/13 12:51 PM
7

stuebenville yoooo
/r/MensRights30/10/13 01:00 AM
1

Lol!
/r/MensRights29/10/13 07:23 PM
-1

You really are a shitlord.
/r/MensRights29/10/13 01:06 PM
1

Thanks for the input nigglereddit.
/r/MensRights27/10/13 06:59 PM
-2

Nah, I'll be at my safest when I keep my distance from potential rapists, particularly men.
/r/MensRights27/10/13 06:49 PM
-1

How am I supposed to know that the average partygoer is not a rapist? They won't police their actions either way, I can't trust them.
/r/MensRights27/10/13 05:15 PM
-1

So you're saying rapists are mindless beasts and I have to police myself and rely on other's correcting my behaviour instead of your average partygoer policing himself. Alright, maybe I should just avoid parties and people in general, particularly you. Noted.
/r/MensRights27/10/13 04:21 PM
-4

MRAs use the term mangina, not me. And it's fucking ridiculous. And there are real issues for them. Whether or not you can hit a woman back if she abuses you should be a non-issue, but, again, it seems to be neccessary to have a nice circlejerk about how easily you'd take down a knife wiedling assailant. Cry more about downvotes.
/r/MensRights27/10/13 04:19 PM
-3

The amount of revenge fantasies that take place here worry me and I doubt that the posters here are genuinely afraid of anything.
/r/MensRights27/10/13 03:24 PM
-1

So let's just throw up our hands in the air in defeat since, you know, rape can't be prevented, and neither can any other crime I guess.
/r/MensRights27/10/13 03:24 PM
-1

No, not end of discussion. It'll never be the end of the discussion. You can't just lock someone up in their house at a curfew to prevent them from being raped, not to mention it doesn't even work.
/r/MensRights27/10/13 02:20 PM
-2

Read this thread and you'll see it isn't a "minority opinion".
/r/MensRights27/10/13 02:18 PM
-6

I don't think I'm the one uninformed.
/r/MensRights27/10/13 02:17 PM
3

hahaha what
/r/MensRights26/10/13 06:12 PM
2

If someone calls me out on women bashing, they're just dumb feminists! I'm not saying it's anyone's fault, though you did try to blame Obama's drone strikes on women! I like how you ignored other reasons women, or anyone, might have voted for him. It means nothing when you say "Oh, the majority of voters for this candidate are women, therefore women support him" when the vast majority of voters for ANY candidate are women. By that logic, women loved Santorum.
/r/MensRights26/10/13 06:11 PM
0

"Supposed god". Hoo boy.
/r/MensRights26/10/13 06:08 PM
1

You only care because it gives you a reason to trash talk women, don't you? There are reasons that many people who are ignorant of his actions in the middle east (you know he specifically authorizes these actions out of the public eye) still support him. The other option, Romney, would be drones and less support for those in poverty, i.e.foodstamps, "obamacare", etc. Just stop. You also completely misunderstood my reply. Women are the majority of voters for almost every candidate for public offi…
/r/MensRights26/10/13 04:59 PM
0

Nice. Edit: I can't even be sarcastic about your comment. Are you for real? Womenare the largest demographic for ANY candidate because the largest group of voters is women, i.e. in general not as many men vote. God damn.
/r/MensRights26/10/13 04:36 PM
3

And look at all the politicians in general, suchas Obama, who send drones to kill innocents in the Middle East under the supposed "war on terror".. Wait, a woman didn't do that, and it isn't white men being killed, so it doesn't matter.
/r/MensRights26/10/13 04:11 PM
4

So maybe a possible rapist should show self-control. A lot to ask for, I know..
/r/MensRights26/10/13 03:35 PM
-1

Wow so FUNNY, finally someone says this!!! Never been said before. Ever.
/r/MensRights26/10/13 03:28 PM
2

But this already happens???
/r/MensRights26/10/13 03:28 PM
-6

Don't say shit like "equality hurts" and expect most people to take you seriously. Jesus christ.
/r/MensRights26/10/13 03:11 PM
-3

Love how everyone loves to get up in arms about whether or not they can hit a woman. As if that's a fucking issue worth discussing and you don't just like the idea of hitting one. A+
/r/MensRights26/10/13 01:31 PM
1

Ehh, pieces of chocolate in a pile of shit. And if you don't know what to say about feminism claiming to be the solution to all men's problems, then why are you and so many other men so up in arms about it? Surely this is a problem that can be easily articulated?
/r/MensRights22/10/13 02:45 PM
1

I don't know if anyone has ever said that feminism is the only solution. PART of the solution, yes, but intersectionality is crucial in any social movement, so I doubt that frustration is justified at all. I don't think it's possible to represent this community in a positive light, tbh.
/r/MensRights21/10/13 02:22 PM
1

I have, hence most of my activity being on AMR. And it's not very understandable, to be honest. It would be if feminism and women were not to blame for all of the issues most men face, or if instead, they actually tried to help men instead of giving them an enemy to spit at.
/r/MensRights18/10/13 07:12 PM
-4

From what I've seen it's about 90% anti-feminism, with the rest of the threads who actually seem to want to help men being ignored.
/r/MensRights18/10/13 04:55 PM
-4

That's how this entire sub works.
/r/MensRights18/10/13 03:16 PM
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