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would 100% lock down a hot woman who wanted them even if she had touched more penises than they were personally comfortable with. That's what you did, huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 07:05 PM
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Sex drive, orientation, fantasy life, kink interests all show broad variability within each sex Enormous commonalities between the sexes as well, and the examples you listed are generally anomalous when compared to "typical" behavior. The variability in strength among men and women doesn't mean that men aren't stronger than women on average. And no, a female bodybuilder doesn't suddenly shatter these general trends.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 06:56 PM
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I'm comfortable having my own theories about how nature and society drive human behaviors. If these hypotheses make you bothered or if you disagree, that's fine, but it's hardly pseudoscientific to believe that the mind is an aspect of human physiology affected by evolution.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 06:27 PM
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It's wishful thinking to think that we aren't beholden to innate behaviors derived from evolution, like every other complex vertebrate.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 05:31 PM
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"Respect" is multifaceted. Why do you think I qualified that post with "all else being equal"?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 04:45 PM
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"why do you even care? Why do you waste calories on something that doesn't concern you and have no impact on your life and society?" Ask yourself this before whining about "pill men."
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 04:41 PM
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All else being equal, things that are difficult to achieve are generally more respected than things that come effortlessly. It's that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 04:35 PM
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My body my choice 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 04:19 PM
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Only speaking for myself, but I wish no ill-will on the women I've hooked up with, I just wouldn't want to marry a person like that. If a person not wanting to marry you feels like a personal attack, then you may have more in common with incels then you realize.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 04:06 PM
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"Violence is the supreme authority from which all other authorities are derived"
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 03:50 PM
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Which biological differences make it okay for men to judge women but not themselves? Women don't have to worry about paternity fraud, which is the main driving force behind the aversion to promiscuous women. I'm not justifying the condemnation, just the preference. People aren't slaves to biology when it comes to behavior. Part of being human is being able to recognize and ignore biological urges. If we can indict men for doing what's in their nature, then we ought to do the same for women, but …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 03:46 PM
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Our sexual behaviors are a result of our biology, specifically our sexual morphology, which developed through millions of years of evolution. If I have to explain how men and women differ biologically, this conversation may be over your head. If men and women had the exact same sexual behaviors and preferences, then you might have a point about men being hypocrites.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 03:41 PM
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different in a way that's meaningful given the context It IS meaningful, given that the context is mate selection and sexual competition, and men and women have sexualities that are fundamentally distinct from each other. These differences exist on an innate physiological level.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 03:36 PM
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You're immature if you don't wife up the reformed whore The shaming tactics aren't as effective as you think. they have one too Men and women are different.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 03:34 PM
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Men like sluts. They just don't want to marry them. It's actually so simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 03:27 PM
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The rhetoric is so illuminating. if you won't date or marry promiscuous women then you HATE us They're terrified that their past actions could compromise their dual mating strategy, and so they try to use shame to get men to acquiesce.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 03:25 PM
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Like have you ever looked at who high profile porn stars end up with? Most end up in very brief and dysfunctional relationships with people who are just as fucked up as they are, based on what I've observed.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 03:22 PM
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It's a revenge fantasy because these slutty women often end up settling for less attractive men that they quietly resent. Hence, the whole AF/BB trope.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 03:21 PM
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Why are men so against women beings "sluts" when men themselfs are ones? Men and women are different. This conversation is so full of hypocrisy and confusion Men and women are different. It reminds me plenty of of reddit stories of men wanting open relationships with their wifes only to regret it later when the women herself enjoys it. I'm not sure how Reddit's cuckoldry fan fiction is relevant to this topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 03:19 PM
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Speak for yourself, buddy. Not everyone else wants to marry the town bicycle.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 01:59 PM
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They do. You've probably just never had a woman be really into you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 01:03 PM
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The enormous wall of text coming from the same dude who said Whining online about what other people say in anonymous discussion boards is stupid and a pointless waste of time. Can't make this shit up.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 04:40 PM
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To counteract prevailing manosphere narratives that are damaging to men (and encourage him to be antisocial/angry), and to counteract prevailing bluepill narratives How do you reconcile this with Whining online about what other people say in anonymous discussion boards is stupid and a pointless waste of time. I've noticed that feigning apathy about the discussion at hand is a common tactic when you start flailing in your rhetoric. Notice that it would be really easy to write off anything you hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 03:29 PM
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By women. If you don’t want to hear what women think, stick to hanging out with your bros. Would it be fair to give this advice to women whining about Andrew Tate and the manosphere? Well…yeah. There’s a lot of stuff whose appropriateness is context-dependent. Is it also a mystery why passing out bibles might not go over well in a pro-choice rally? Feminist preferences are generally more widely accepted in a greater range of contexts. get grosser about it faster. Purely subjective, and will also…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 02:37 PM
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Whining online about what other people say in anonymous discussion boards is stupid and a pointless waste of time. What sub do you think this? Why are you even here? If a guy wants a non-promiscuous woman, then go date in non-promiscuous spaces. They're rare, but there are plenty of virgin woman in their 20s still who are specifically waiting for a husband. But my point still stands. Men constantly get push back for being adverse to promiscuous women, especially in spaces like Reddit that lean m…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 02:18 PM
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I don't think people, women, or society push back on men "wanting non-promiscuous women." Why don't you make some posts about male views of promiscuity on some of the socially progressive and female-centric subs and put that theory to the test?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 01:59 PM
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men are indignant about women's standards too! Obviously, but the OP is making the point that men's preferences are now considered more shameful, and it's frowned upon to express those preferences outside of particular male-specific spaces. In environments that are more gender-neutral, or without a specific ideological label, expressing ordinary male preferences is dismissed as incel whining, while expressing ordinary female preferences generally isn't met with the same outrage or indignation. O…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 01:46 PM
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My point is that it’s exceedingly stupid and naive to be offended that someone might be more critical of the preferences of the sex they’re trying to attract than those of their own. I think people are allowed to be frustrated by the double standard. Does it offend you that as a man I’m confident in my preference for skinny girls with large natural breasts but am disheartened by the fact that women don’t seem to like shorter guys? Obviously it's not offensive. What's offensive is the assertion t…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 01:25 PM
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Do you believe that it's gross for men or women to prefer not having sex with certain individuals?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 01:12 PM
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Yes, now you're starting to see what the OP is getting at.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 01:11 PM
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Care to explain how either of those preferences are indicative of an "evil" ideology?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 12:47 PM
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Who considers men’s preferences evil? Progressive feminist women and their male sycophants, usually. Particularly with regards to body count and weight. Who consider women’s preference “morality”? Many of these same individuals view female preferences as benign or justified in comparison. Are these views held with enough of a consensus for it to be worth a shit You could make that argument about literally any post on this sub. But I think people in this sub often try to obfuscate the discussion …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 12:45 PM
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Yes, but let's not pretend you don't often see a general consensus among the BPers and RPers of this sub, and the vast majority of women lean towards the BP. It's denying the 80/20 principle as incel propoganda while also gleefully claiming "most men are ugly" if "incel" men need to be reminded why they aren't having as much sex as their more attractive peers.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 12:33 PM
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The majority (of men their age) aren't seen as attractive. The women of this sub can't even decide if they want to admit this or deny it. I guess it depends on the argument they're trying to win.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 05:01 PM
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Speak for yourself buddy
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 04:06 PM
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Just because you lack the ability to be decisive doesn't mean the two situations are remotely similar.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 02:03 PM
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men should ask themselves if they even want these women they tell themselves they do because they think it's better than being alone, because they lack experience If the relevance was immediately lost on you, within the span of 3 replies, I think you're just itching to argue with somebody.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 05:09 PM
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What are you even trying to say at this point lol No need to be so smug and adversarial. I was just explaining my point in response to your original rhetorical question. Not every reply is a disagreement or argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 05:05 PM
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I'm not sure what you're not understanding here. I was just explaining to the perplexed masses why some men desire seemingly undesirable partners. do you want the type of woman who enjoys a narcissist asshole? The people who think they want these women presume that it can't be worse than a lifetime of loneliness and lack faith in their ability to attract anyone better.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 04:33 PM
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These people are romantically inexperienced, so they can't understand that a poor partner can be so much worse for you than crippling loneliness.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 04:27 PM
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Which is ridiculous, given that married men generally are doing better than single men, when you look at any meaningful statistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 03:51 PM
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The people who will take this advice would rather have a non-ideal partner than have none at all. That's the logic behind all of the "why would you even WANT to date these people" posts.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 03:41 PM
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You're not wrong, but there's probably less than a dozen people who would benefit from this advice. -autistic but not TOO autistic -conventionally attractive -socially acceptable niche interests
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 02:36 PM
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I’d believe boys night isn’t in these places because guys generally don’t go to clubs just to dance with eachother the way women do Because straight men aren't feeding off the attention of others when they're dancing and grinding with their same sex friends in the club. I’ve not met many men who go to the club without it being in hopes of getting laid I've literally never met a man who went clubbing with totally innocent, asexual expectations. I mean, it's the reason many clubs will waive cover …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 11:19 AM
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It is just replacing you with another guy who she has to fend off but sometimes not before getting a drink or an innocent dance out of him. This is the exact weaponized plausible deniability that OP described. They get to enjoy the attention of men, despite being in a relationship, just as long as they brush them off after a few minutes of chat or a dance.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 11:07 AM
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do you think women who want marriage should avoid men with lots of unmarried friends If that's what they want to do, I think that's reasonable. But I feel men are generally less sensitive to the idea of being "controlled" by certain relationship boundaries, which will vary from couple to couple. Women with lots of single friends are the most sensitive to this in my experience. And no, I'm not telling men to seek out women who will tolerate unhealthy and controlling behavior, just offering advice…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 09:21 PM
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Obviously, it's important to be in the company of boozed-up strange men when you want to just dance with the girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 07:11 PM
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Sure, but going to work to feed yourself and keep a roof over your head is a necessity that going to the club with the girls isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 07:06 PM
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I'm bothered by the "control" discourse I know instead of just breaking up, That's what I'm advocating for, short of not dating these sorts of women to begin with. Controlling a woman is a ridiculous waste of time, which means you're better off partnering with someone who shares the same boundaries as you. From a purely pragmatic perspective, based on my own experience and the experience of other men, a woman with many happily single friends isn't going to tolerate any sort of boundaries being i…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 06:47 PM
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I can tell you're bothered, but I can only explain my position to you so many times 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 06:16 PM
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If those girls in that group have flippant or adversarial attitudes towards relationships with men, then yes, I think there's a good chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 05:58 PM
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You don't try to control them, you just don't bother to begin with. Same as dating any other person who has behavior that doesn't align with your own values and boundaries.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 05:53 PM
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Jesus Christ. I'm not telling women to end their friendships when they enter a relationship. I'm telling men not to enter into relationships with women who have many single friends, especially if they're the sort of friends who turn their noses up at commited hetero relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 05:51 PM
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answer the question I did. You observe how she interacts with this hypothetical friend and how they talk about serious relationships. If it's "men ain't shit" type rhetoric (which is very common between scorned women comforting each other), you're better off ending the relationship, IMO. Otherwise, you just have to decide on the amount of trust you have in this person, and whether or not it's worth continuing the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 05:49 PM
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So a night club is no different Unless you're living under a rock you'd understand that night clubs are generally understood to be a place that people enter to seek out attention from the opposite sex. its just a dark room with shitty liquor and louder music Which is conducive to the environment I described. Dim the lights and feed people a liquid that suppresses inhibition. It's fundamentally different from the other places you described.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 05:40 PM
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Those things happen, but it seems Vegas/Miami/Bali/Ibiza trips are much more common.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 05:35 PM
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when her friends become single From my experience, if her friends value stable and monogamous relationships, it's usually not long before they end up back in one. If they don't, then you have to observe how your partner interacts with these friends. Then you have a decision to make.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 05:34 PM
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Nearly every man I know has at least one "she cheated on girls' night/trip" story.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 05:26 PM
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By discerning the general relationship values of the social circles that your romantic prospect runs in, usually by observing their behavior. Even if she's not a "party girl," you don't want to date the girl who is friends with the "party girls" if you're interested in a serious long-term relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 05:23 PM
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What a coincidence that all the quintessential "girls night" venues are places that are widely known for courtship or sniffing out casual sex. It's for our single friends! That's why you're better off not bothering with a woman with a bunch of single friends. that's insecure! No, I'm just a realist who believes it's better to avoid temptation than to pat yourself on the back for resisting it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 05:20 PM
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No. I think men are just setting themselves up for failure when they date a woman with many single friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 05:18 PM
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Your girlfriend’s not single, but her friends probably are. That just means the relationship is doomed to fail already.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 04:09 PM
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Speak for yourself. You can "self-improve" your way into being a generally more desirable person. All else being equal, the in-shape guy with lots of hobbies, well practiced conversational/flirting skills, and a diverse social circle will do better than the same guy without these things.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 01:50 PM
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Women are generally more in-tune with social minutiae and cues when compared to men. If a woman is doing this while insisting it's totally innocent, there's a good chance she's knows better and is just playing you for a sucker.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/25 02:04 PM
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Usually they'll LARP as a lesbian for a few years and then go back to fucking men as they enter their mid to late 30s. Seen it happen so many times.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 03:17 PM
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Attractive blonde men absolutely clean up with non-white women from what I've observed. Particularly Asian and Latina women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 02:25 PM
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There's nothing mystifying about beauty. Barring some niche beauty trends, almost everything that we consider attractive is some kind of indicator of sexual fitness.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 01:35 PM
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Female sexual preferences obviously aren't perfectly constant across every individual, but these preferences are FAR less varied than the sexual preferences of men. This is exactly why the blackpill developed.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 01:33 PM
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I've literally never seen a non-religious woman indict an attractive man who has lots of sexual partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 11:18 AM
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Women may be inherently better at some things. I'm comfortable admitting this as long as we can acknowledge that men are as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 11:16 AM
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Tell him, "I'm not as sexually attracted to you as the guys I used to let smash and dash, but I like other things about you!" And that's exactly why they gaslight us about us. It takes away the sweet, asexual safety net. Most men are gonna immediately opt out of that raw deal, and there's not enough hunks to go around.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 05:18 PM
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See what kind of men, women are obsessing about and gossiping with their girlfriends. Made a post about this a while back. If you want to see what women's actual preferences are, untainted by the need to seem socially respectable, put them into a group of their peers, give them some booze, and then close the doors and listen.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 04:59 PM
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I like normal straight men but sometimes they wear a dangly earring or watch Love Island with me
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 04:55 PM
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Hang out with a group of female friends and you'll learn very quickly that if you're in a relationship with a woman, literally nothing about your sexual relationship will stay just between the two of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 02:30 PM
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How so? You might be too soft for the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 08:05 PM
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I was describing how forces of attraction are driven by deep-seated biological impulses, particularly those related to sexual fitness, and used an example most men could relate to. What part of that bothered you so much?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 08:00 PM
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What are you even talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 07:55 PM
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It's not even something women deny... Baloney.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 07:53 PM
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This seems like the female version of being upset that you aren’t the prettiest girl he’s ever seen in his life. No it's like your husband telling you that you're not as smart, pretty, or interesting as his previous partners, who he lavished with gifts and attention. Then he tells you that some women are for immediate love and relationships, and some are just for birthing your children. Then men come along to collectively gaslight you about how that sort of thing doesn't happen, while simultaneo…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 07:51 PM
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It's hard to discern the difference between an example and "proof" eh?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 07:31 PM
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why are men so surprised that we've been chronically disingenuous for decades?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 06:44 PM
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It's crazy how quickly they go from AFBB is an incel myth lol men have a dual mating strategy too, so why can't we?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 06:42 PM
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Brilliant rebuttal.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 06:18 PM
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Locker room talk isn't commiserating about dating woes. It's off-color jokes and talking about women you want to fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 06:17 PM
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Yup. Before the internet, it was taboo to be a male and discuss frustrations with your romantic failures. It was seen as embarrassing and emasculating. The semi-anonymous and collaborative nature of the internet has made men more acutely aware about behaviors that are common among women, and the rationale behind these behaviors.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 05:28 PM
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They aren't surprised, just frustrated.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 05:25 PM
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Infant mortality is at a historical low, but male lizard brains still seek out wide hips and fat asses. We can not separate ourselves from our biology, no matter how much we would like to be truly equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 02:29 PM
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The internet enabled people to see what the "others" are saying about you behind closed doors. Big part of the reason things seem more divided now. I also think the internet did away with the pretense of social respectability because people feel comfortable being truly honest in a semi-anonymous setting surrounded by people who hold similar views.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 02:04 PM
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but dysfunctional wheel gets replaced You're not going to replace men, just like we didn't replace women when they were the ones being "squeaky"
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 02:01 PM
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Trite BS. Pandora's box has been opened, and there's no side that's willing to either compromise or acquiesce to the whims of the other. The culture wars are here to stay until they're over.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 05:10 PM
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The dynamic is simple, if you have to chase, you've already lost because women don't run from the men they want. Just put this shit in the sub banner.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 11:16 AM
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Put people into desperate material conditions and swamp them with religious propoganda so they have no means to seek fulfillment in their own lives beyond having a family.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 11:14 AM
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The majority agrees with me. Lol you don't 'prove' this with a Websters definition. I hope you realize that. The burden of proof is realistically on you. You're the one making positive claims about the "consensus" regarding perceptions of feminism. So no, you got to put up some kind of data.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 11:07 AM
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A definition isn't a "general consensus." You'll have to do better.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 11:00 AM
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Because the general consensus about feminism is not that it's a hateful or transgressive ideology lol I'm going to take a page out of the bluepillers handbook and demand a "source" for this positive claim now
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 10:45 AM
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Heh, you're mad ;) I guess I win this exchange Stunning counterargument. It's a debate sub BTW, arguing is kinda the whole point.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 10:44 AM
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Until we extend the same level of grace and understanding to every other person that does something hateful or transgressive because of ideology, I'm comfortable attributing certain attitudes and actions towards a given belief, including feminism. It's just another double standard feminism tries to prop up.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 03:23 PM
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Give it a try. Tell our lovely female BPers that men are biologically advantaged when it comes to physical strength and speed and see what kind of push back you get. Better yet, try r/AskFeminists
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 03:08 PM
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Thanks for the history lesson. Obviously systemic discrimination exists, but progressives and their feminist allies often point to it as the only possible explanation for why one group is outperforming another, especially if the underperforming group falls under the umbrella of an "aggreived demographic." But you can’t blame people for wanting to dissect those differences in a world where discrimination still exists and barriers either still exist or existed until pretty recently. Exactly my poi…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 02:51 PM
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Sorry I struck a nerve but it's not personal, buddy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 02:46 PM
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This exactly. Transgressive behavior from men is enabled by the waning patriarchy and its many tendrils, so it stands to reason that certain transgressive female behaviors are enabled by the burgeoning feminist movement of the past century.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 08:56 PM
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You think the problem is the lack of advertising and not the much lower skill level?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 08:45 PM
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Sounds like the exact same Marxist platitudes used to explain why any given attempt wasn't "real communism."
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 08:44 PM
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Progressives, which also encompasses feminists, believe that all human beings are imbued with the exact same potential for success the second they're conceived, and any differences in performance between two groups MUST be a result of deliberate institutional discrimination or prejudice.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 08:42 PM
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against shaming men for being virgins. Give me a fucking break lol Feminists will default to this sort of shaming in an instant if it's against an acceptable target.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 08:38 PM
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Lmao pretty similar to my experience as well. Also have to make sure you bust with your partner instead of the "third" so there's no hurt feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 08:23 PM
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some of the most masculine men in American culture You sound like you had some in mind. I'm referring to many of the people I know in my own personal life. So give me a name, unless it's all just bluster.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 08:19 PM
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Got a good example? Because the types of men you described often have the most one-dimensional and shallow notions of masculinity.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 08:16 PM
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Some of the most masculine men of American culture have been raised by single mothers Because they lacked a good male role model so they overcompensate to a ridiculous extent, often taking up a cartoonish and shallow notion of masculinity.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 07:56 PM
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Feminists claim that feminism is also for men when they're trying to trick them into supporting it, but then scold the men who feel like there lives aren't being improved by feminism because "it's not for men".
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 07:51 PM
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Feminism denies innate biological realities when inconvenient, which makes it impossible to take seriously. Only in feminist bizzaro world is it controversial to say that men are generally stronger and faster than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 07:49 PM
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Funny enough I'm rarely downvoted when I take the more BP position on a certain issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 07:26 PM
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Your smug condescension is kind of my point. Feminism enabled women to be much more vocal about their preferences, and women used the opportunity to be cruel under the guise of honesty and empowerment. Your feelings were hurt so you had to take a shot at short men in the hope that I'm also short and it would hurt me too. (Even threw a pithy lol in for good measure) But because you couched it as a simple preference, it doesn't seem as needlessly cruel to imply that no woman desires short men. You…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 07:11 PM
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Well think a little bit harder, "lol".
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 06:58 PM
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Wear your downvotes with pride. On this sub it means you struck a nerve but they didn't have the wherewithal to rebut your claims.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 06:47 PM
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Ask yourself if political movements have either deliberate or inadvertent social consequences and ripple effects. Then ask yourself if it's moronic to demand "proof" for an alleged feminist position. Or maybe ask ChatGPT.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 06:20 PM
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What are the goals and positions of said political movement? Where's the "proof" that these are the "official" positions of feminism?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 06:09 PM
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Short of every feminist group on the planet emphatically stating "we believe this," what "proof" would be enough for you to accept that something is a feminist position? Or do we just say that it's a totally nebulous ideology that doesn't exist beyond vaguely advocating for the interests of women? This whole thread is just No True Scotsman sophistry.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 05:54 PM
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ITT: A FEMINIST IS X NO, A REAL FEMINIST IS Y
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 05:49 PM
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It's just a joke from an old Simpsons episode about the "nice guy" mentality. Don't read too much into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 04:57 PM
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Thinking that being nice will get you sex isn't the same thing as refusing to be nice if you think sex isn't on the table.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 04:36 PM
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Unfortunately, many men were poorly socialized into what being "nice" to women looks like. I blame Disney films. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 04:15 PM
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Perhaps women don't have the "dishwasher" gene, but perhaps they're more risk-adverse (this is verified) which makes them more predisposed to "safe" and less risky domestic work. This also tracks with current day workplace mortality and injury rates. You may feel frustrated by gender roles, just like many men do, but until we can completely divorce our minds from our biology, I don't think they will ever truly go away.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 03:59 PM
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Mostly the latter from what I've observed. Seems to be a lot of sour grapes.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 03:54 PM
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I think it's more about sowing seeds of doubt in their heads for the sake of vengeance. Especially knowing that so many lifelong single women start to mentally lose it in their late 30s as they feel that clock start ticking. if I can't even get this miserable prick to want me, will I really be able to find a good one before my time runs out?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 03:49 PM
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I've literally never heard anybody refer to a wristwatch as a "masculine power symbol." At best, you could consider a luxury watch to be a symbol of wealth, which is tangentially related to classic notions of masculinity.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 03:44 PM
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Can socially constructed roles be derived from innate biological impulses and tendencies forged by millions of years of evolution in social groups?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 03:42 PM
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Chivalrous, agreeable, polite, selfless, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 03:16 PM
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When a behavior is generally not condemned by society nor forbidden by the unwritten rules of socialization by which we operate.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 03:16 PM
1

Quite a strawman you have there
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 10:25 PM
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I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. sitting in a living room, drinking wine and watching Friends girls night at a bar or club the ride home in an Uber the college dorm room a simple phone call or text group messag the lunch table in the school cafeteria I can list a thousand more, but I'm curious about what point you're trying to make by asking this, like you don't already know where women hang out or socialize.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 09:14 PM
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Lol this question is not being asked in earnest BTW they're called women Let's address the content instead, shall we? Scroll the thread and you'll find I use male/man female/woman interchangeably. Don't read too much into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 08:54 PM
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Wherever a group of female friends are socializing.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 08:47 PM
2

I didn't downvote you lol, relax.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 08:47 PM
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say that criminal men are attractive, and I’m pushing 50 years as a woman. I've heard many women describe a man as hot or attractive, despite him being a criminal or abuser, Chris Brown for example. The thing is, there are very different groups of women out there Of course, but I'll still insist that the preferences of these groups are far less varied than women think they are, and both statistics and lived experiences back this up.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 05:28 PM
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The difference is that the real life conversations among women that I've witnessed are often congruent with the the online rhetoric I see too, which I highlighted in my OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 05:09 PM
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Yes, but in this case, I'm referring to the many instances where I hear it directly from the horses mouth.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 04:36 PM
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I was mostly referring to my experiences with other men in real life. I'm not sure a sub dedicated to male grievances with the feminist movement is a good perception of the average conversation between "the boys."
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 04:19 PM
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The blackpill developed specifically because those preferences are so rigid, ubiquitous, and immutable.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 02:35 PM
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Male dicks have gotten hard for sheep, goats, exhaust pipes, light fixtures in the shape of boobs I can promise you these sort of sexual deviances are not common at all. Who men actively court, want to date and spend energy and effort on is a better indication of the type of attraction that actually matters Well yeah, people put more effort into relationships when they're more attracted to a person. But men are reluctant to invest this time and energy unless they're certain they're not being "us…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 01:27 PM
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And men don't want women who believe "Umm, we can still have a good relationship without sex, y'know." Which I've only ever heard expressed by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 01:17 PM
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Seems like that in practice, girl talk and locker room talk really aren't so different
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 12:49 PM
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Both parties complain, but women mostly complain to other women behind closed doors, which is why we see this ardent insistence that women are happily single, while men aren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 11:59 AM
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what you have heard from men in their own company talking about women. From my personal experience, men don't discuss women like women discuss men. There may be a few that really enjoy "locker room talk", but it's mostly limited to things like ranking the beauty of female celebrities, with occasional comments about the ass or tits of a female passerby. Also, most men don't describe the most intimate details of their sex lives like women do, those things are typically kept very quiet and private.…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 11:38 AM
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What do they think it is then? From my experience its usually off-color humor and lecherous comments about female bodies.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 10:53 AM
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You don't know enough women or enough about women to know what they "get hot" for You don't know that They are not out there drooling over hot bodies. Lol you have no idea, do you?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 10:48 PM
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spent more time going out in the world and less time looking for ragebait and making up fanfiction all of you would be better off Take you own advice, buddy. Women get hot for firefighters. Men are the ones who care about biceps and body building Yes, women are famously into weak, scrawny men. are dismayed that the one thing they are willing to do to improve themselves means little to nothing to women. Just because you got into shape doesn't mean you're not still ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 10:04 PM
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I think women are significantly more AWARE of these insecurities, but women are also significantly more likely to weaponized those insecurities against others. I think it's both. Men don't have the same social awareness that allows them to either exacerbate insecurities or be sensitive toward them. because unlike men and violence, women rarely face any consequences for weaponizing insecurities. Other than call it out, not sure what else can be done. You can't legislate something like that withou…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 09:45 PM
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Partially agree. Women are more consensus-driven and fear mean-girl style exclusion, but I think that most women, especially the ones of this sub, would say that being on the receiving end of male violence is worse than expulsion from your female clique. It's not just the violence, though. I think women just generally try to be more sensitive to insecurities held by both men and themselves. Call it whatever you'd like, but it's been true in my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 09:25 PM
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Yes, it's ultimately driven by a desire to not stoke insecurity in men (with the possible added bonus of male violence). Unfortunately, men actually internalize these assuaging comments, and then are left frustrated when it's at odds with what women are actually responsive to.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 09:11 PM
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Not in my entire lifetime have I heard a man graphically describe sex acts with his wife, nor any intimate details about her body. A random bar hook-up, maybe, but definitely not a wife or serious partner. Having sat in many conversations among my wife, cousins, sisters, and their friends, I cannot say the same for women. I've known a small number of men who like to do the "locker room talk", but not like this. The female perception of what it actually is seems to be driven more by projection, I…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 09:04 PM
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I think most people, aside from feminists, would say that the tangible harm locker room talk poses is relatively benign, on par with female gossip or "mean girl talk." Both are seen as socially unacceptable, but there's an awareness it happens anyway. Trump would never have been elected President Don't misinterpret this as support, but Trump's invulnerability to scandals says more about the state of our partisan system than anything else. apparent dislike of women Not true I love women
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 08:47 PM
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What they mean is they dont like sub-5% bodyfat with IFBB pro levels of muscle mass. Well I theorize a lot of those dudes have some kind of body dysmorphia anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 08:32 PM
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Some men understood this beforehand if they were particularly perceptive or were able to fly under the radar in traditionally female spaces. The internet and social media have made this content far more accessible which is why we're seeing this growing "gender divide." You can see from this thread that women experience the same thing, but in a different direction. But I can only really speak on the male experience. I'd be more interested in reconciliation, but I'm not sure what that is going to …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 08:30 PM
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This is an enormous factor too. A lot of men are too socially retarded to understand the difference between "don't ask out women in public" and "don't be aggressive and lecherous towards a woman who can't remove herself from the situation." Fear of rejection plays a big part as well, and both male and female egos are bigger than they've ever been before.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 06:50 PM
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Yes it's "fear" to take the most basic precautions when interacting in online spaces. Since you're so brave why not just post your social security number and home address while you're at it? Next time, you can just say you disagree instead of trying to make a point in this way. You've completely lost track of the discussion here.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 06:36 PM
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Sure outliers exist, but unless she's forced into it, women aren't getting together with men they feel "lukewarm" about. They 100% ARE doing this, especially later in life. That's why many women choose to be single Because the sexual revolution of the 60s enables them to seek out sexual experiences without being in a relationship. Only a small number of men have the options and desirability to make this arrangement viable.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 06:33 PM
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Okay, so then which is the sincere opinion and which is a lie filtered through the lens of social respectability? Or do you believe people are just in a constant state of dishonesty at all times?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 06:31 PM
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Can't blame women for a healthy distrust of men either, given the statistics, but these differences will have to be reconciled, or we'll have to prepare for demographic collapse, or a reactionary movement that would make the Taliban blush.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 06:30 PM
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Women don't start complaining until they reach their early to mid 30s and feel that biological clock ticking. Prior to that, most women can handle their emotional and sexual needs without being in a monogamous relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 06:27 PM
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It's insane to me how lookism/incel rhetoric has become a part of the Gen Z/A parlance. I never thought that mewing or mogging would ever be uttered in public spaces.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 06:25 PM
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if you don't doxx yourself you're a hypocrite and not actually interested in honesty Lol this is what you're trying to say, isn't it? Can't take you seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 06:24 PM
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Sexual attraction is lukewarm at best in these relationships, but one or both parties can't handle being alone, so the relationship persists until the woman gets sick of putting out for a man she's not crazy about, or the man gets sick of begging for a crumb of pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 06:20 PM
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You have no idea what you're talking about. Men are horny, but they're not popping bones at anything with a pulse.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 06:15 PM
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Men are reluctant to form relationships because they've listened to what women have said in their girl talks. They're coming to the realization that women will deprioritize sexual attraction (especially later in life), while lying about it, leaving them stuck in a sexless marriage. If women were honest and said "Hey you don't really arouse me all that much, but I like your friendship, attention, and emotional support" then most men aren't gonna accept that deal. Women know this on some level, wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 06:04 PM
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Can a man only be attractive to his partner when a majority of women find him attractive? No, of course not, but female sexual preferences are far less varied than men, and are reflected in our dating behaviors.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 05:57 PM
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Don't be naive. The internet is full of psychos who will doxx you and harass you because of banal statements like "The original Star Trek series is better than TNG"
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 05:55 PM
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Why would it? Men want someone who actually desires them, just like women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 05:53 PM
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This thread is absolutely filled with them doing exactly that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 05:52 PM
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If your dick is getting hard, some part of you finds her attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 05:50 PM
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Sure, but the variety in preference isn't nearly what you all claim it to be. Which is why so many men experience the disconnect between women's actions and their stated preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 05:49 PM
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I’m sometimes surprised guys are jarred by any closing of the gap since they’re used to interacting the way they do. This is a good point too. Men expect "brutal honesty" from other men, but expect more gentleness from women. The feminist movement has allowed women to become less reserved in their speech and emotions, and it's jarring to many men, especially when it's odds with the "women are more kind and sweet" rhetoric they've been fed from a young age.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 03:17 PM
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So answer directly - do the vast majority of men think like Andrew Tate? Of course not, but there's certain male preferences and beliefs that are more common, just like there are for women. And frankly if men’s feelings are hurt that some women don’t like minorities or fat men or find short men unattractive, then welcome to my world, where I’ve been told that all that matters is my weight, not my intellect, not my drive, not my accomplishments, not even how good a mother I am. Harsh answer, but …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 02:59 PM
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In the same way men are shocked when their wives tell them they don't care about six-pack abs or big biceps and then see them drooling over the firefighters that walk by the house.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 02:54 PM
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Bullshit. Women in groups openly will lust after total strangers if they're sufficiently attractive. Get a group of tipsy women around some firefighters and see what I mean. The fact that they're not "on their radar" because they're strangers is irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 02:46 PM
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Google "locker room talk" and pick any of the new articles that pop up. They are condemning of that sort of behavior. that's just mass media not real life Well, until we can poll all 8 billion people on this earth we'll have to use other ways to measure societies appetite for forms of rhetoric.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 02:44 PM
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Women will now jump into say "we NEVER said we don't like muscles and fit men" But most men have heard a platitude similar to that at some point, in order to soften the blow of a rejection, or so the woman can appear less "shallow."
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 02:40 PM
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That's the label used in the comment I was replying to.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 02:36 PM
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Ugly doesn't always mean "physically repulsive". Sometimes it's just a bitchy way of saying "not physically/sexually attractive"
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 02:29 PM
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Your frustration with dishonesty sounds like projection. I'm glad you're so comfortable being dishonest in your dealings, but I strive for more gentle honesty.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 02:26 PM
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Do you think you would be asked out more or less if you were the same dude, but tall and rich, with a muscular and toned body? I'm not a blackpiller. I'm not saying it's impossible, just much more difficult.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 02:24 PM
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The corollary is that girls and women have been listening in on how men interact too. But perhaps we’ve been exposed to it for longer? We always heard the insane predator, violent, violative things said in rap and rock songs and lockeroom and barbershop talk. This is true. Which is why I identified the internet and social media as being so disruptive to hetero relationships. Prior to this, female spaces were far less accessible to men. Male spaces were historically inaccessible to women as well,…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 02:21 PM
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Doesn't mean everybody is into them, much less that they are exclusively into them. No shit. It just means the vast majority of the population finds those characteristics to be sexually desirable, so it's good to embrace these characteristics for maximizing your odds if you intend to attract somebody (core of the red pill ideology). Are YOU this out of touch?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 02:14 PM
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While I think this is true to a certain extent (women want to bluster and shit-talk when they're with "the girls") but I still contend that they're speaking more honestly in female company, because there's no implication of male rage and violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 02:09 PM
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We ought to strive for gentle honesty, but I get nuance is difficult here. Disingenuous platitudes aren't exactly appreciated either.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 02:00 PM
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Once again, the blue pillers of this sub fail to realize that generalizations are helpful to understanding the behavior of large groups, even if not applicable in 100% of situations.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 01:58 PM
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Thats why you tell men to stop lying to get into women’s pants right? Any day now, you’ll post that You're saying I'm a hypocrite because I didn't do something that you aren't even aware of? I'm not sure what you're even trying to say. I've said plainly that I hate dishonesty in all forms.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 01:56 PM
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So if the overwhelming majority of spaces for both men and women are "toxic", how can you indict me for focusing on these toxic spaces? Focusing on tiny fringe communities isn't going to give you a good perception of general behaviors and perceptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 01:55 PM
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Can you answer my question first instead of deflecting?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 01:51 PM
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They aren't duplicitous in what they're attracted to. They're duplicitous in their intentions with regards to sex and relationships. There's a difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 01:50 PM
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When you see misogynistic rhetoric online, how are you sure that those people are men? Why do we extend so much grace and understanding towards female rhetoric?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 01:49 PM
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I do. I've spent plenty of time among female friends, coworkers, and family members. I've come to realize the thoughts they feel comfortable expressing in "safe" spaces are often the same as the thoughts that are expressed semi-anonymously online.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 01:47 PM
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Is misogynistic rhetoric dismissed as ragebait or rhetoric from a shallow minority? From what I can tell it's the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 01:46 PM
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not universal beauty standards. What do you think "conventionally attractive" means?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 01:42 PM
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Or maybe they just feel comfortable enough with me that they don't have to mask their true thoughts and preferences?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 01:41 PM
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Or has it finally - finally - dawned on you that women aren’t all alike. Of course not, but compared to men, their sexual preferences are more universal, and that's what men have come to realize. I challenge you to find me a culture or society where scrawny, short men are revered as sex symbols.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 01:40 PM
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I think women would sincerely appreciate this, actually. Women are constantly trying to vet out potential partners who will just use them for sex. It would cause some short-term hurt feelings, I imagine, but lead to less pain and heartache then going through a messy divorce in your 40s.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 01:35 PM
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Which part, specifically, do you think is nonsense?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 01:29 PM
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Guys say the most horrible things about women online (TRP) lol and honestly that makes women be extremely careful Yes, part of my contention is that women will mask their true preferences due to fear of violent retribution from aggreived men. Sounds like you're agreeing with me. You guys thought women are delicate submissive flowers incapable of dark jokes and horny talking No. I know of enough women who read rape erotica that I know this isn't the case. This is what happens when people don't ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 01:26 PM
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Women don’t all say most men are ugly tho. That's word-for-word a comment I've heard expressed multiple times, both online and offline. Most women say they aren’t specifically attracted to most men they walk past in the street. Splitting hairs. This is the same as men, who also aren’t specifically attracted to most women they pass on the street. Male sexual attraction is far more variable. In the past men assumed that female sexuality was as well, but they're beginning to find out that that's no…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 01:20 PM
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Do you have an example of a healthy female space? Where women are focused on uplifting and celebrating all male body types?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 01:16 PM
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Female preferences are much more universal, that's why women have a much scarcer selection of acceptable mates. It's also why they'll settle down with a guy who doesn't sexually excite them for the sake of stability, when they fail to secure the man who sexually excites them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 01:15 PM
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If that’s what you did, why are you on female spaces Curiosity, mostly. The platitudes have to be empty because it is actually not true that short men are never seen as attractive. All else being equal, women across all cultures and demographics will almost always find a taller man MORE attractive, though. "Nobody could love a shorter man" is blackpill shit anyway. Men are duplicitous about what they are attracted tox as I have explained. I'll take your word for it, but I don't find women to be …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 01:09 PM
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"Locker room" talk is condemned as harmful to women and their psyche and body image. No reciprocal reaction exists for men. Should it?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 01:05 PM
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I think that's perfectly fine as long as you keep that same standard towards flawed men who express unpopular or transgressive beliefs. Let's be consistent and not prop up double standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 01:04 PM
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I've seen "most men are ugly" often touted in female spaces, both online and offline. Similarly, women speak MUCH more plainly about qualities they find unattractive when there's no icky violent men present who may be offended (especially if these men are short/bald/poor etc)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 01:02 PM
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That's exactly what I did. I stopped listening to what they told me and started paying attention to their actions and what they told each other. I'm just frustrated by dishonesty in all forms.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 01:00 PM
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Like the fact that "most men are ugly". If men were as keenly aware of this as women, they may not be as thrilled about being the "sweet but sexually unexciting" back-up partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 12:59 PM
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You think the standards expressed in these "echo chambers" are contrary to women's actual standards irl?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 12:57 PM
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I'm not offended by them expressing preferences and speaking plainly. I'm just frustrated by the dishonesty and constantly conflicting speech, between what women tell men and what women tell each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 12:49 PM
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Online spaces with millions of users aren't "deep rabbit holes". Social media has become a mainstream space, and online discussion boards and chat rooms aren't limited to poorly adjusted shut-ins anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 12:47 PM
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You did not learn this from real life, seeing which kinds of men in high school got the pretty, popular girls? That's exactly what I did. I have literally never needed to go into a men’s spaces to know what men find attractive, Men aren't as duplicitous about what they're attracted to. Not like women are. And again, why would I tell a man that he is too short or ugly for me to date him, right in that moment? He is not entitled to the reason why I will not date him. It is also bad manners. It als…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 12:46 PM
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Is the girl talk BS, or is what they tell men BS? Because most men seem to believe it's the latter. Women don't live in fear of other women like they do men, so they don't have to be as accommodating and misleading with their speech.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 12:41 PM
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This rhetoric isn't limited to TikTok and Instagram. I've noticed the same discussions play out irl. The internet just allowed other men without access to female social groups to hear these things as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 12:40 PM
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It's disingenuous to say that it's insincere rhetoric to bait people into a reaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 12:39 PM
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Spending time around my wife and her friends is ultimately what inspired this post.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 12:37 PM
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"Incel" opinions are typically limited to a handful of poorly adjusted and socialized men, and they can often be identified by their appearance and behavior from a mile away. Whereas the opinions I described in the OP are far more common and universal than what you may think. Once you’ve found it and interacted with it, the algorithm will feed you more and more of it. But that doesn’t mean it’s the norm. Sure, but this experience hasn't been limited to online spaces. I've noticed similar convers…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 12:35 PM
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Why do you want to go to female spaces? To hear women speak plainly and honestly. Since they don't seem to do that when in mixed sex company. Why do you think so many men report an enormous gulf between what women say they want and what they actually do, in terms of dating? And furthermore, why are you expecting that women be mean about men, to men, in public? I'm not asking them to be mean. I would just prefer that they're honest and consistent.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 12:32 PM
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Calling something ragebait is dismissive. Nobody calls it "rage bait" when some Andrew Tate dickrider talks about how all women are whores. In fact, the opposite happens, and people go into hysterics about how we need to combat the online radicalization of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 12:29 PM
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Listen to what women say when they're feeling safe in their female spaces. They'll clearly tell you that most women find the average man sexually undesirable. Whereas male sexual attraction is far more broad and encompassing.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 11:51 AM
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