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Thanks for being respectful. I actually enjoyed this conversation a lot! And same! I'm awesome down to chat if you want! Have a great night and stay safe!
/r/MensRights22/11/20 05:46 PM
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It's getting late here and I need to start cooking the dinner for my bf and I, so I'll keep this last message short. You can’t say that the NOW thing was not sexist because it wasn’t their intention. Yes. I can. If you have a problem with state government, then organise something and contact the state government. Bitching about it on Reddit won't help. If you see an inequality there, that's the result of those politicians not giving equal time to men, not of feminism itself. If you want your iss…
/r/MensRights22/11/20 05:12 PM
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Default custody isn’t the same as a MANDATE for 50/50. Your point about a child’s best interests can coexist with it. Maybe, but that's the reason given for campaigning against it. Not hatred of men. you refuse to take a social litmus test for feminism. What do you propose as a litmus test? I have no problem doing this, but only if the test is fair. Can't speak for the US, because let's be honest, their management of COVID is a train wreck. But you're correct that more men die of COVID, we've kn…
/r/MensRights22/11/20 04:42 PM
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The NOW campaigned against default 50/50 custody There's a completely legitimate reason that they campaigned against this. Default 50/50 custody may not be the best for the child and that's typically the criteria on which custody is based. So it depends on the relationship dynamic before the separation. If one parent typically spent more time with the child and caring for the child, then the idea is not to break that, to make the separation easier on the child. Whether that is actually best prac…
/r/MensRights22/11/20 03:51 PM
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When the NOW does it, when the biggest social media accounts do it, when politicians do it, when universities do it. That again just sounds like an opinion rather an actual justification. But if that's your experience of feminism, then fair enough. I don't see anything malignant with these feminist groups. All I really see is here is a misunderstanding of feminist theories and an unwillingness to actual learn what they mean.
/r/MensRights22/11/20 03:16 PM
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On what are you basing the "the vast majority" on? If it's your own personal experience, then fine, but you have to accept that you're subject to bias in particular confirmation bias (we all are, regardless of idiology). Criticising feminism isn't going to help you guys. I used to think it would too, but honestly, it just makes MRAs look petty and not actually concerned with actual men's rights. That's how it appears to outsiders (and to me at this stage after years in this sub). Nobody is going…
/r/MensRights22/11/20 02:55 PM
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The patriarchy is a little more complicated that a simple dictionary definition. Well firstly, if you look at most of the world's governments and most of the big companies, power and wealth is governed mostly by men. So within this very narrow definition, it's still somewhat true. However, the more abstract definition of patriarchy isn't quite so simple. The world for millennia was governed by men, and women were excluded from positions of power and governance (with the exception of some queens …
/r/MensRights20/11/20 01:03 PM
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The patriarchy doesn't mean just men. That's a huge overgeneralisation. It's referring to our society in general which imposes gender roles on men and women. And to blame for what? For telling men to be masculine. No, for ostracizing and even ridiculing men who don't fit the stereotypical idea of masculinity, and hence making them feel like lesser men. That's not against men and masculinity, but rather I'm favour of not having such strict ideas of what masculinity is and should be. It's exactly …
/r/MensRights20/11/20 11:59 AM
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Of course there are different feminist groups, that's the point. You can't bitch about them like they're one hive-mind, as most people here seen to do. This is one of many that also cares about men. The more time I've spent in this group the note I've realised that this sub isn't built to advocate for men's issues, it's built to bitch about a bogeyman version of feminism.
/r/MensRights20/11/20 10:16 AM
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There are actually feminist groups and pages advertising IMD. https://www.instagram.com/p/CHxeNhvp8CJ/?igshid=fhfqohqxoac5 Not only are they talking about IMD, but they're talking about how men are told to "man up" or encouraged not to show their emotions. They're actually trying to help men too.
/r/MensRights19/11/20 08:28 PM
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This post is obvious bullshit. But what does this have to do with men's rights?
/r/MensRights17/11/20 12:26 PM
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I'm not asking you to change your mind. You do you, hun!
/r/MensRights15/11/20 03:41 PM
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I already told you, pretty much every feminist I've ever met in person. What do you want, their names and ID numbers?
/r/MensRights15/11/20 02:32 PM
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They are. The problem is you guys only focus and the bad shit. And I'm not saying that be a dick, because I was exactly the same.
/r/MensRights15/11/20 01:57 PM
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Pretty much every feminist I've ever met in perso and every single one of my feminist friends. But you won't meet those unless you're willing to actually get offline and talk to actual feminists. And I mean talk, not confront and argue with them with "but what about the men's?!!" Keep building up your feminist bogeyman, dude.
/r/MensRights15/11/20 01:48 PM
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They're not. If you actually get into the community you see that it's actually a lot more divided than it appears from the outside. They're not one collective that all think alike. There are branches of feminism.
/r/MensRights15/11/20 01:32 PM
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Try not being such a dick. Your comment was vague.
/r/MensRights15/11/20 08:35 AM
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Gender isn't how you express sex. Sex and gender are different.
/r/MensRights15/11/20 08:17 AM
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Shit like this is why men's rights isn't taken seriously, because to get respect you have to give it.
/r/MensRights15/11/20 08:07 AM
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transgender* not cross-dresser. They're different.
/r/MensRights15/11/20 08:01 AM
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I'm glad you don't consider those ideas, because none of what you said is how the majority of actual feminists think. Domestic violence is violence against a partner. That's it. Violence against women is any form of violence against women, within or without a relationship. Rape isn't just penetrative. It's any non-consensual sex act carried out on another person without their consent, regardless of gender. I assume by financial abortion you mean not paying for a child that is biologically yours?…
/r/MensRights15/11/20 07:56 AM
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No. I think most of your guys would just rather play the victim and hate on feminists rather than actually considering half of these ideas.
/r/MensRights14/11/20 09:29 PM
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What an amazing well explained argument!
/r/MensRights14/11/20 09:26 PM
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You've completely missed my point. Nobody is calling men toxic. Simply saying that the gendered problems of men are due to society telling men how they should be and behave. Toxic masculinity is that not masculinity itself is toxic, it's simply that some of the traits that we teach men they be should have are toxic for their own wellbeing. That's it.
/r/MensRights14/11/20 08:25 PM
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Pretty much. I'll admit, its name doesn't help the acceptance of the theory. I myself had problems with it in the past (hence why I'm even on this sub in the first place, I used be very anti-feminist), But yeah, it seems everything the only objection they have to this theory is the name, because it comes from feminists theory and feminists are the bogey(wo)man in this group.
/r/MensRights14/11/20 03:50 PM
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I guess so, yeah.
/r/MensRights14/11/20 03:43 PM
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I think the problem, particularly with the guys in this sub, is that they think the adjective "toxic" is being applied to men and manliness, rather than simple being applied to the very type of "manly" gender roles that they often complain about themselves in this sub. .
/r/MensRights14/11/20 03:43 PM
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I don't know what should be done.
/r/MensRights14/11/20 03:40 PM
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"mothers, sisters, teachers, girlfriends," are part of society. Hence the blame is on them too. It's something we all have to change. Not just men
/r/MensRights14/11/20 03:39 PM
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Toxic masculinity doesn't put the blame on men. Men are victims of toxic masculinity. Toxic masculinity theory is simply that men are taught by society from birth that they have to fulfill certain roles and have certain characteristics to be "manly" and that often these expectations cause harm to men and sometimes the women in their lives. Women also experience gender expectations, but those expectations generally encourage expressing emotion and sensitivity.
/r/MensRights14/11/20 03:00 PM
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How exactly is this "Mens Rights" ?
/r/MensRights09/11/20 03:39 PM
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That's a lot of shite to counter claims I never made. But whatever butters your turnip. xD
/r/MensRights07/11/20 08:48 PM
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Hence why I said "majority". Look you don't have to agree, I really don't care, so you're wasting your time trying to fight against claims I'm not even making. I'm just explaining what feminists mean by "patriarchy".
/r/MensRights07/11/20 08:39 PM
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Yes, benefit other men in power. With some basic literacy skills it's easy to get that from the rest of my comment and subsequent responses.
/r/MensRights07/11/20 07:46 PM
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Yeah, still don't see anything to reconcile. But okay.
/r/MensRights07/11/20 06:07 PM
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Thinking that men in power would pass laws that benefit all men also sounds like a pretty big assumption to me. I never assumed they would benefit all men. I said the opposite actually. How do you reconcile patriarchy theory with a society that has always considered men the more "expendable" gender? I don't. I don't see anything to reconcile.
/r/MensRights07/11/20 03:57 PM
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so if you don't present any examples in the next post, I'll post my threadkiller and we'll both go on our merry ways. Bye, Felicia! I suppose your post could be read as an explanation of patriarchy theory without an endorsement of it Yes. That's exactly it. My personal opinion on Patriarchy is irrelevant to the content of my comments. I'm not giving my opinion here.
/r/MensRights07/11/20 12:03 PM
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Okay, but why? Does it matter? Why bother commenting if you don't have what it takes to support your claims? What claims did I actually make? Other than explaining that feminists view the patriarchy differently to how you guys seem to understand it, I haven't made any claims.
/r/MensRights07/11/20 11:50 AM
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This is what I was referring to. That's not a complaint. That's simply me explaining to you why you're likely getting little to no actual reception from feminists. Why are you commenting on this sub? Because I felt like it.
/r/MensRights07/11/20 11:43 AM
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I still don't get why you're here. The truth? Seeing the posts and comments in this sub reminds me how much my opinions and I as a person have evolved over the last few years. You don't get to complain about me not accepting your explanations when you can't be assed to find a single example. I never complained about you not accepting my explanations. I never expected that you would.
/r/MensRights07/11/20 11:37 AM
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Right darling. Whatever you say.
/r/MensRights07/11/20 11:31 AM
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That's also how they feel trying to explain shit to people like you and this sub. xD
/r/MensRights07/11/20 11:29 AM
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Then why did you come here? I've been a member of this sub for years, since my MRA/anti-feminist days (thankfully I matured and got over that phase of my life). I'm not trying to accomplish anything. I'm just commenting. Do I not have the right to do so? They always come up short when pressed. They don't come up short man. The important words in your comment there are when pressed. It's because you're not interested in a proper discourse. You're just looking for a "gotcha" rather than actually h…
/r/MensRights07/11/20 11:26 AM
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No, not for you. I didn't come here to give examples, and I really don't think you care, so why would I waste my time on a futile debate? If you're genuinely interested in reconsidering your position and actually listening to what feminists mean then there are plenty of actual feminists groups you can contact with your questions.
/r/MensRights07/11/20 11:12 AM
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It's likely the reason you're not getting any examples from feminists is because, like most people in this sub, you're not actually interested in examples or even reconsidering your position. So it's a futile attempt. You guys have already made up your mind. You've made a straw-man of what you think feminism is, and you spend all your time fighting against this bogeyman regardless of whether it's a true representation of modern feminism or not.
/r/MensRights07/11/20 11:01 AM
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You've counted all the examples?
/r/MensRights07/11/20 07:03 AM
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I'm talking more about in academic terms than in Wikipedia or The Guardian terms.
/r/MensRights06/11/20 09:14 PM
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A patriarchy would work to put men ahead of women throughout all levels of society. You can't just assume that. Current patriarchy theory isn't that all men are ahead of all women. Just that the men in power are going to promote and make laws and regulations that benefit men, but since so many of them rich, they'll also make laws and policies that benefit the rich. The men at the bottom aren't ignored. They're recognised as victims of the current patriarchy/oligarchy too.
/r/MensRights06/11/20 02:57 PM
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Actually, the theory is very well defined. It's not a single definition, it's a whole theory. There are plenty of academic books and resources you can read to get a better understand of what patriarchy means in modern terms to the feminist movement.
/r/MensRights06/11/20 02:53 PM
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The oligarchy and the patriarchy go hand in hand in this world. But no, that's not the current definition of patriarchy that feminists use.
/r/MensRights06/11/20 12:57 PM
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Maybe I missed it, but where in that post does he mention the patriarchy? Patriarchy theory doesn't claim that all men are inherently part of the patriarchy. It's simply that the majority of the world's governments and the majority of positions of power and wealth are held by men, but in particular wealthy men, so these wealthy men in power are obviously going to support policies that benefit themselves and other wealthy men. Working class men are also victims of the patriarchy.
/r/MensRights06/11/20 11:42 AM
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I do my part.
/r/MensRights23/05/20 01:39 AM
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I still fail to see how this is related to Men's Rights . What right is being denied to men here? If you guys spent as much time actually advocating for men's rights instead of just trolling on feminist subreddits and whining about it you might actually solve some of men's issues.
/r/MensRights23/05/20 01:35 AM
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And how exactly is this related to men's rights? I sometimes think this sub is just another r/AntiFeminist
/r/MensRights23/05/20 01:30 AM
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Yes
/r/MensRights12/05/20 01:37 PM
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Yes.
/r/MensRights12/05/20 01:35 PM
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Yes. And?
/r/MensRights12/05/20 01:34 PM
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Nope
/r/MensRights12/05/20 01:26 PM
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K, darling. Whatever you say.
/r/MensRights11/05/20 10:14 PM
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This is actually a great article and makes some great points. It explains what Patriarchy actually is very well.
/r/MensRights11/05/20 02:17 PM
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Sounds kinda gay.
/r/MensRights10/05/20 07:40 PM
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I don't think it's a case of misrepresenting on either side, but rather misinterpreting (statistics conclusions are very easy to misinterpret) and honestly, in my experience, neither side is better than the other for that.
/r/MensRights24/04/20 05:07 PM
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Don't look for websites that collect and present these kind of statistics, even MRA ones. MRAs are subject to bias just as anybody else and stats are easy to misinterpret or mispresent. Search for actually published peer reviewed studies on Google Scholar so you're getting your information from the source.
/r/MensRights24/04/20 03:43 PM
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They likely didn't have information on the other officer. They can only report what they have.
/r/MensRights20/04/20 01:05 AM
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So what?
/r/MensRights19/04/20 05:54 PM
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Excellent points, and very eloquently put!
/r/MensRights14/04/20 11:30 PM
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Oh by all means, we should promote it as a choice, not as a must. All I'm saying is, we should promote it to an extent where is not considered weakness for a man to express his emotions, but most certainly we should not label stoicism as an inherently negative trait, particularly if causes no emotional harm to the individual, and for people on the autism spectrum, as you rightly said.
/r/MensRights14/04/20 11:14 PM
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Can you not just explain how they are different here and now? If they aren't why use the term patriarchy instead of just saying capitalism... Because the men in power are going to make policies to that benefit men, so. Just as a woman in power would make policies that benefit women. Everybody, whether consciously or not, will make decisions that benefit their own demographic. The patriarchy part is what will lead to women's needs and rights being neglected, and the capitalistic aspect of such na…
/r/MensRights14/04/20 11:11 PM
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There's no benefit to forcing men to behave more feminine. But people like you and I shouldn't have to deal with being shamed by men or women for not being a burly macho man with the emotional capacity of a stone. It's not fair. Masculinity shouldn't be rigidly defined (not should femininity), but rather allowed to develop in it's own way for an individual without undue social pressure. That said, don't you agree that being able to talk more freely about one's emotions, particularly in times of …
/r/MensRights14/04/20 10:49 PM
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Ok
/r/MensRights14/04/20 10:36 PM
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They don't overlap in socialist or communist states that still have male leaders. When I mentioned Patriarchy of rich men, I was talking about most western nations, because the patriarchy that we have is a capitalist one. . . There can also be a communist, socialist, etc. patriarchy. They're independent labels that combined together just give more specific information about the nation or region in question.
/r/MensRights14/04/20 10:06 PM
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They do overlap. That's what I said earlier. That I have a bigger issue with them when they intersect. I don't get what you're trying to ask.
/r/MensRights14/04/20 09:39 PM
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They're different, hence why I gave different definitions. They're different in that one describes which gender has the power, the other described who owns the means of production of a state. And no, I don't think a matriarchal capitalism would not be any better.
/r/MensRights14/04/20 09:34 PM
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Patriarchy is simply a society in which men hold most of the power. Capitalism is a system in which the means of production are privately owned for profit. I have problems with both, and I definitely have problems when they intersect as they do in many nations.
/r/MensRights14/04/20 09:21 PM
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Well I clarified multiple times that that wasn't the case. Nothing more I can do for you I guess. I also have issues with capitalism.
/r/MensRights14/04/20 09:12 PM
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I can only speak from my own personal opinion here, but I think a society that's roughly 50% female should have more women in power to ensure that their rights are adequately catered for. However, I don't think "power by proxy" is true power. It's dependence. But you're also correct in that if men die or end up homeless people like Musk, Soros, and other billionaires don't care. That's why I mentioned previously (in another comment) that the patriarchy as it is affects working class and middle c…
/r/MensRights14/04/20 09:09 PM
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I've explained that in other replies. You should check them out if you're interested.
/r/MensRights14/04/20 07:59 PM
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👍
/r/MensRights14/04/20 07:32 PM
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👍
/r/MensRights14/04/20 07:30 PM
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👍
/r/MensRights14/04/20 07:29 PM
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👍
/r/MensRights14/04/20 07:28 PM
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K babes! xoxo
/r/MensRights14/04/20 07:24 PM
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Because you're not worth the effort, honey.
/r/MensRights14/04/20 07:23 PM
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I've written extensive replies to others on the subject answering the question you asked. I'm not wasting my time rewriting it all. If you want my answer then go read it, if not, grand.
/r/MensRights14/04/20 07:21 PM
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Yes, everybody participates. And I've already explained in other posts why it's patriarchy. Check them out if you're interested.
/r/MensRights14/04/20 07:18 PM
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Yes. All of those. All of those are part of society.
/r/MensRights14/04/20 07:14 PM
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No, it's not the fault of men. It's fault or society, of both men and women, for enforcing these ideas on men.
/r/MensRights14/04/20 07:14 PM
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Patriarchy is simply a society in which men (but not necessarily all men) hold most of the power and control. That's it. I'm not an anthropologist nor a historian, so I don't know what came before, if there was a before. It's possible that patriarchial society evolved naturally from the beginning of human society, but that's more of a question for anthropologists.
/r/MensRights14/04/20 06:52 PM
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I'm not mad, honey, don't worry. I'm sad for you.
/r/MensRights14/04/20 06:05 PM
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You're still one of us, honey. 🏳️‍🌈
/r/MensRights14/04/20 06:01 PM
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What is there to argue? You called me "lispy queer", a "faggot", and said you hope I get AIDS. What are you expecting?
/r/MensRights14/04/20 05:55 PM
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❤️🏳️‍🌈
/r/MensRights14/04/20 05:52 PM
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I feel sorry for you. Like I said, I used to be just like you. I know that after and where it comes from. Genuinely, if you ever need someone to talk to, you can always send me a message. ❤️
/r/MensRights14/04/20 05:43 PM
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You know, honey. Every single thing you said there is something I've said in the past. I used to think exactly like you.
/r/MensRights14/04/20 05:41 PM
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you queers You're one of us, honey. If you think the people here see you any different, you're deluded. I hope you get over that delusion quicker than I did.
/r/MensRights14/04/20 05:33 PM
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I've answered some of your questions in my others comments. Have a read through the thread.
/r/MensRights14/04/20 05:30 PM
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I love you too dear! ❤️ Hope you're keeping safe in these difficult times.
/r/MensRights14/04/20 05:28 PM
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Love you too, babes! xoxo
/r/MensRights14/04/20 05:27 PM
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Oh god, you like Milo Yiannopoulous! xD That vapid, vacuous asshole. Can't believe I used to like that prick too. You'll learn when you grow up. Stay safe dude.
/r/MensRights14/04/20 05:27 PM
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Okay, darling, whatever you say. 🙄
/r/MensRights14/04/20 05:19 PM
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You literally just stated that women took advantage of the benevolent sexism of men, that literally places the blame on men you literal brainlet. You seem to be interpreting "sexism" as some kind of accusation, it's not. I'm literally just talking about treating women differently to men. Society in general is to blame for that, not men. I'll again go back my earlier argument of if everything is responsible then why is everything negative given a male gendered term and everything good a female ge…
/r/MensRights14/04/20 05:13 PM
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That's not advocating for the traits, it's advocating for the social freedom of men to be themselves, even if it doesn't fit with the societal expectation that's put on me. These traits are just an example of that freedom. So you think it's okay then that men like me who have some feminine traits should be shamed and bullied for not being manly enough?
/r/MensRights14/04/20 04:55 PM
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So you don't actually have a point to make? You just decided to give your opinion because you think I should care? I don't care what you think, honey. Now have a nice day. 😘
/r/MensRights14/04/20 04:52 PM
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Odd, the women were shitty by themselves, with no input. But they only took advantage because of benevolent sexism, where men treat women better. Nobody is arguing that women are incapable of being shitty humans beings too. I'm sorry, but which fucking movement has spent two years screaming from the rooftop "BELIEVE ALL WOMEN OR YOUR A RAPE APOLOGIST" Yes, believe them enough to actually investigate and but have the police drop the case before it starts. even when you state it's women being shit…
/r/MensRights14/04/20 04:50 PM
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Such as?
/r/MensRights14/04/20 04:39 PM
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I literally took the time and effort to write that there and then for you. But your lack of response shows you either didn't read it, or have nothing of worth to respond with. Why am I surprised! For a minute there I thought you wanted an honest civil discussion. I'm going to leave it there and no waste my time anymore.
/r/MensRights14/04/20 04:38 PM
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How is a woman being a gold digger caused by benevolent sexism? Benevolent sexism arises because men are taught to treat women differently, to treat them like princesses or like queens often at the expensive of their own wellbeing. Some women use this to their own advantage and take advantage of the generosity and chivalry of those men. That's how it's caused by benevolent sexism, and that expected behaviour of treating women like queens at one's own expense is toxic to many men, and is hence an…
/r/MensRights14/04/20 04:34 PM
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Then, why is everything negative about gender attributed towards men? Let's start with toxic masculinity. Toxic masculinity (and again I really hate that term), is a result of the patriarchy. Now the patriarchy isn't what a lot of guys seem to think it means. It simply mean that the world is governed predominantly by men, and rich men at that. Well look firstly at the past. All of our gender expectations and gender roles were passed down to us. We learned them from our parents who learned it fro…
/r/MensRights14/04/20 04:08 PM
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Yes. You've hit the nail on the head, at least with the first few lines. All of those examples you gave are examples of benevolent sexism leading to women getting away with bad behaviour, a.k.a. "toxic feminity". but bring these up with feminists and they either titter with laughter saying they deserved it Only a minority of feminists actually behave like this. Feminists aren't saints, there exist shitty people within the movement too, just like every movement. If you're doing to bitch that some…
/r/MensRights14/04/20 03:54 PM
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You can groan all you like. It's true. I'm just going to start with saying I don't like using the term "victim" here, but rather we're all negatively affected by this. Now having prefaced that I'll respond to your points: Yes. Yes. No. Women harass and bully each other all the time, and women are often oppressive to other people. Women are shaped by and internalise gender roles just as much as men do.
/r/MensRights14/04/20 03:42 PM
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but I do find it so fucking hilarious that my wanting to be a masculine male, muscles, weight lifting, stereotypical guy things, shooting, are all by default toxic. You've missed the point completely. Feminists are not saying that being masculine is bad, they're not staying that muscles are bad, they're not saying that weight lifting is bad, they're not saying that all stereotypical guy things are bad, they're not saying that shooting is bad (well provided you're not shooting people) . . . You h…
/r/MensRights14/04/20 03:36 PM
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Right to paid parental leave. The right to the right to show emotion, dress how they like, wear makeup, and do whatever "feminine" hobbies they want, etc. without being called a "pussy". To dispel the myth that men aren't as good carers for children as women. To get rid of the expectation that men should have to do the asking out and that men should have to pay on a date. . . And others. We're all connected. The things that affect women also affect men.
/r/MensRights14/04/20 03:22 PM
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It's not the "average normal behaviour," just some of the traits and behaviours that are socially forced on men that are toxic to their well-being. I'm not going to lie to you, I really hate the name "toxic masculinity" and I also hate there term "toxic feminity", but you have to understand that those terms come from a different time. From the 70s and 80s when the feminist movement had to be more vocal and abrasive to be heard. Similar to how the LGBTQ+ community had to be too. That said, I wish…
/r/MensRights14/04/20 03:17 PM
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I agree with you so much on that. It's really hard to understand the nuance behind many of the theories and topics because their names, which usually come from academic literature from the 70s and 80s, tended to be a little strongly worded and appear completely unnuaced. And it's understandable why it was strongly worded back in that era, similar to how the LGBTQ+ movement used to also be a bit more vulgar and in-your-face back in those days too. It was a "fuck you" to the system and way of gett…
/r/MensRights14/04/20 03:04 PM
1

I don't know you. But I like everybody until they give me a reason not to. So yes, I like you.
/r/MensRights14/04/20 02:49 PM
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They already do. However, the term is a bit contentious. Personally I prefer refer to both as "toxic gender roles". There are some feminists who really hate it being called toxic feminity (and I've pissed some friends off for describing it at such), however the reason for that is that many feminists believe that "toxic feminity" and "toxic masculinity" have different origins... And they kinda do. Personally, I'd rather we didn't associate toxicity with any one gender. But that's a different issu…
/r/MensRights14/04/20 02:45 PM
0

Seriously, it's posts like this that give this sub a bad name and make it synonymous with woman-hating. If you actually want the legitimate issues than men face in society and the rights that they are overlooked to be address, this is not how to do it. This has nothing to do with men's rights. It's just an asshole speaking over and condescending a woman discussing a deeply personal rights issue to many women. And here you are posting it for a laugh? What image do you think the sends out of this …
/r/MensRights14/04/20 02:18 PM
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I don't need to verify it. I don't need proof. I believe him. I believe that that is his experience with the feminist movement. However, where I disagree with him is that feminists in general only discuss toxic masculinity when discussing the issues of men because that is not my experience. Maybe it's true, maybe it's false. Neither can really know because we can only go by our own experiences. You're also contradicting yourself. How exactly am I contradicting myself? All I have said is that I d…
/r/MensRights14/04/20 02:08 PM
1

What exactly does this have to do with men's rights?
/r/MensRights14/04/20 01:54 PM
1

Same to you. Although I'm quite active in several feminist and women's rights groups. I'm not dismissing his points. He's making an argument based (presumably) on his own experience discussing with some feminists or listening to the arguments of some feminists. I'm simply saying that I cannot relate or agree with him because my own personal experience with feminists is very different. A difference in opinion on a topic that's based on our individual personal experiences is not a dismissal.
/r/MensRights14/04/20 01:31 PM
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I don't know what feminists you're listening to, but the ones I know and the groups I follow talk about a multitude of issues. Sure, toxic masculinity comes up frequently, but it is far from the only issue they discuss.
/r/MensRights14/04/20 01:00 PM
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I already call myself a feminist, and I have no problem with the idea of toxic masculinity, I actually agree with most of it. It's something that really effects men negatively, especially those men who don't fit into the cookie-cutter idea of what a man should be.
/r/MensRights14/04/20 12:39 PM
-1

I couldn't agree with you more. I identify as a feminist myself too (which doesn't make me very popular here xD), as well as an egalitarian in general. Wishing you all the best! <3
/r/MensRights14/04/20 01:07 AM
-1

I agree with you. Although most people here will downvote you to shit for simply identifying as a feminist. Most here can't seem to do anything other bitch about feminists.
/r/MensRights14/04/20 01:01 AM
1

That sub is a nasty pit of transphobic hate. I'm pro-feminism, but those TERFs are just disgusting people. I got banned from them too.
/r/MensRights13/04/20 09:49 PM
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You can definitely promote discussion of this, and I encourage that. But by posting up this publication by the Office for Women it gives off the message that you're complaining that they're discriminating against men by not mentioning them, when in reality they're just doing their job by focusing on women. I just think that complaining about a service that caters to a particular group not focusing on those outside the group is counterproductive to what you actually want to achieve because (and I…
/r/MensRights12/04/20 12:55 PM
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This was published by the Office for Women. Of course their focus is going to be on women. There also similar campaigns that focus purely on men, such as the One in Three Campaign. Nowhere in this notice does it suggest than men don't have that same right to safety and security, and there are numbers you can call to get help if you are man experiencing domestic abuse or violence: 1800 RESPECT (1800 737 732). Mensline Australia (1300 78 99 78). Men's Referral Service (1300 766 491). Dad's in Dist…
/r/MensRights12/04/20 12:32 PM
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That's true of all things in life. Kids will always want to know what a word means. That's why it's so important that parents take the time to explain these words correctly to their kids, so that they don't end up getting the wrong impression or idea.
/r/MensRights10/04/20 10:57 AM
2

Yes
/r/MensRights04/04/20 07:31 PM
0

Yup
/r/MensRights04/04/20 07:27 PM
1

I'm not asking for your sympathy, darling.
/r/MensRights04/04/20 07:16 PM
1

Whatever you say, honey.
/r/MensRights04/04/20 07:10 PM
2

Well you're entitled to view it however you like. I don't see it that way.
/r/MensRights04/04/20 07:09 PM
1

Yes.
/r/MensRights04/04/20 07:07 PM
1

It's essentially just a more vocal branch of feminism. In particular they've been campaigning for a long time regarding the horrendous domestic violence statistics in Spain.
/r/MensRights04/04/20 07:02 PM
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I'm completely in support of the feminist movement in Spain.
/r/MensRights04/04/20 06:51 PM
-4

Yes you can. But you'll get downvoted here for expressing any sentiments even remotely positive about feminism. I support both too.
/r/MensRights04/04/20 06:36 PM
1

Honestly, I wouldn't bother posting this and giving it more attention than it deserves. Look at the subreddit this came from, r/BlackPillFeminism. They're the female equivalent of incels.
/r/MensRights02/04/20 08:09 AM
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If it was known whether it happened or not then it wouldn't be an allegation. It's as valid as any other sexual assault accusation.
/r/MensRights26/03/20 10:02 AM
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I agree with you. I used to be very opposed to feminism because I didn't fully understand the nuances of the arguments and theories. That has changed and I have recently come around to identifying as a feminist.
/r/MensRights08/03/20 12:19 PM
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November 19th
/r/MensRights08/03/20 11:58 AM
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I'm not a woman.
/r/MensRights03/03/20 06:57 PM
1

Nothing you or I can do can cause another human being to feel anything. Yeah we're going to have to agree to disagree on that. And I've no fucking idea what your bullshitter about with the rest of that comment. But whatever.
/r/MensRights02/03/20 02:29 PM
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I don't care about your examples, man. OP seems pretty concerned that his weirdness makes women feel unsafe, and from his post it kinda sounds like this is a regular occurrence. . . If you're making people feel unsafe, then maybe you should reconsider how you interact with people.
/r/MensRights02/03/20 02:20 PM
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This is a top-level incel comment. Women don't like it when attractive guys creep on them either.
/r/MensRights02/03/20 02:12 PM
1

There's a difference between offending somebody and creeping them out. I don't fear for my safety when people offend me. As someone who is very eccentric, I'm all for expressing one's individuality and weirdness. But if you go so far as to actually creep people out regularly to the point where they're worried for their safety, then you can't really complain when people disapprove of that.
/r/MensRights02/03/20 02:10 PM
1

I thought this sub was to discuss men's rights?
/r/MensRights02/03/20 11:31 AM
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It's okay to be little bit weird or eccentric regardless of your gender. I certainly am. But if you actually creep somebody out, whether they're a man or a woman, you need to tone that shit down or people will think you have serious issues. And that woman doesn't know that you won't hurt her.
/r/MensRights02/03/20 08:58 AM
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What exactly does this have to do with men's rights?
/r/MensRights20/02/20 07:34 AM
1

This is clearly a joke.
/r/MensRights26/12/19 12:58 AM
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Toxic Masculinity is a feminist idea I used to be fervently against, but I've come to realise it actually exists. However, I don't view it from such a female-centric perspective as many feminists do, nor do I view it as something that men alone are to blame for. I agree with the idea that it exists, but I also believe toxic femininity exists, so I prefer to refer to it as "toxic gender roles". We all enforce societal ideas of gender and gender roles on each other, often doing so subconsciously, …
/r/MensRights22/11/19 04:47 PM
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I agree with this sentiment so much!
/r/MensRights22/11/19 04:31 PM
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Your mother has been through a lot, and she sounds like a very strong woman. Could you maybe suggest counselling to her? Not that she really needs it, but even when we're holding it together and healthy, it's good to talk to someone about our problems. She deserves to be happy, and maybe a counselor could help her see that and take the right steps towards it.
/r/MensRights25/09/19 05:10 PM
1

TERF's are the worst!
/r/MensRights11/09/19 12:43 PM
4

This doesn't prove the claim you made that men are more likely to get top jobs. This simply demonstrates that men currently hold more of the top jobs. And I don't deny that. In fact this is what I was saying initially, most of the positions of power are held by men, and the world is setup to benefit those in power. So yes, in that sense it's a man's world, and yes that needs to change. However, to claim that the world is set up to benefit all men is a conclusion you cannot pull from this. The wo…
/r/MensRights06/09/19 12:05 PM
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Can you provide some evidence of that please?
/r/MensRights06/09/19 11:51 AM
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Not really anymore. Not with the diversity quotas a lot of top companies are implementing.
/r/MensRights06/09/19 11:49 AM
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If by that you simply mean that most of the world leaders are men, then yes I agree with you. However, if you mean the world is ultimately setup to benefit all men over women, then I think that's a very naive way of viewing the world and men. The world isn't setup to benefit the average working class man. It's set up to benefit the wealthy and those in power. But yes, that has to change.
/r/MensRights06/09/19 11:46 AM
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Yeah, my saying "was" is optimism that recent events are just one-offs and not the start of a new set of troubles.
/r/MensRights05/09/19 09:18 PM
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History is history, man. Get over it. It didn't affect you personally in any way.
/r/MensRights05/09/19 07:23 PM
2

Your social circle does not represent all feminists. I never said it did, man. I'm simply saying that that feminists in Ireland appear to be a little more laid back and more reasonable than they appear to be in the US, and I'm basing that not purely on my social circle (I do have several feminist friends), but on the fact that the campaigns feminists over here organise seem to be more calm and less aggressive than those I've seen in the US. They don't complain over small things like manspreading…
/r/MensRights05/09/19 07:16 PM
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As an Irishman I agree with you completely, and so do most modern Irish people. We don't consider the actions of the IRA to be justified in anyway.
/r/MensRights05/09/19 03:40 PM
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Oh calm your tits. I'm not a feminist, but I also recognise that not all feminists are the same, and I don't view them all as the enemy. They're not one homogenous group. There are various branches of feminism, some worse than others, and some that don't bother me. I don't know what your experience is in the US, but I'm speaking from my own experience here in Ireland. And to answer your question, I'm here because I believe there are legitimate men's issues that aren't taken seriously or properly…
/r/MensRights05/09/19 03:21 PM
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Ehh, I don't think it's really a fair comparison to compare the IRA to revolutionaries. Sure, the IRA had its basis in the IRB (Irish Republican Brotherhood), who were most definitely freedom fighters, but the IRA arose from splintered groups of extremists within legitimate revolutionary organisations. . . We're not very sympathetic to the IRA here in Ireland anymore. We regard them with disdain for the terrorist they were. And just for anyone reading who is wondering why the IRA were mentioned.…
/r/MensRights05/09/19 12:55 PM
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Irish feminists aren't actually all that bad. They're pretty reasonable. We're a small country with a pretty high suicide rate, particularly among men. Most women here are aware of that and sympathetic to it, even feminists. The thing about being such a small country is that literally every single one of us has had a friend, a family member, or classmate commit suicide.
/r/MensRights05/09/19 12:49 PM
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The Irish Republican Army. They were a paramilitary terrorist organisation.
/r/MensRights05/09/19 11:56 AM
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Yeah, the IRA links as well as their politics is exactly why I wouldn't vote for them. But still, it kinda is nice to see this promoted by a prominent political party.
/r/MensRights05/09/19 11:34 AM
1

I'd urge you to do the same. In the past 5 hours there have been at least 4 posts bitching about either feminism or feminists. The irony is that in trying to oppose them, you guys have become just like them. I've been on this sub a while because when I joined I foolishly thought I was joining a sub that was actually concerned with men's rights. But what many of you (thankfully not all) have done is just create an echo chamber where you all have one big circle jerk over bitching about feminists a…
/r/MensRights28/08/19 09:53 PM
1

In their defence man, have you seen how many people on this sub are anti-trans? Seriously, even I get super frustrated with this sub sometimes because it's 90% bitching about feminism and 10% people who actually post about men's issues. Do you have any trans friends in real life? Like people you hang out with and not people you've had one political discussion with?
/r/MensRights27/08/19 01:42 AM
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How many have you actually met? And may I ask, where did you meet them? And what were you discussing with them that led to you mentioning you were an MRA?
/r/MensRights27/08/19 01:36 AM
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I like her too. But recently I've been getting pretty annoyed with her and how she throws other trans people under the bus. she doesn't seem to be an easily triggered psychopath that will threaten your life over not using the right pronouns Very few trans people are actually like that though.
/r/MensRights27/08/19 01:17 AM
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Oh yeah, I remember that video. . . I don't blame you for being confused. I was a little bit too. I had to watch it twice. She wasn't very straightforward with her point, but I think the reason for that is that she didn't want to directly and specifically point to and shame Blaire directly. She just wanted to subtly throw some shade. I could be wrong on this, but my understanding of the video was that she was criticising Blaire for throwing non-binary people under the bus and accusing then of be…
/r/MensRights27/08/19 12:03 AM
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Which video was that out of curiosity?
/r/MensRights26/08/19 11:19 PM
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I particularly love what she's doing for trans people. Especially the video where she calls our TERFs.
/r/MensRights26/08/19 10:58 PM
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Look man, I didn't post to have a political debate. You asked me an honest question, and I gave an honest answer. It's fine if you disagree on these points, I'm not trying to convince you. However, if you really genuinely want to know what points were presented then you can check out the following video titles by her: 1 What is Gender? Pronouns Gender Critical 2 What's Wrong with Capitalism Part 1 What's Wrong with Capitalism Part 2 It's better to hear it from the source than a second hand accou…
/r/MensRights26/08/19 10:51 PM
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Well, she adds a lot of additional stuff for comedic effect which I think makes the videos more interesting. There's nothing more boring that just listening to somebody lecture you. I'd rather an entertaining 30 min video than a 15 min lecture. But yes, her videos are quite long.
/r/MensRights26/08/19 10:36 PM
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Well, I'll give two examples because there are quite a few and I don't want to write an essay, but 1) I used to say that there are only two genders. I don't really believe that anymore because I think I'd been thinking about gender all wrong and trying to rationalise something that is in reality very abstract. 2) I used to naively think that there wasn't anything wrong with Capitalism, simply because I never really took the time to research it or think about it and now I see that it's an imperfe…
/r/MensRights26/08/19 09:58 PM
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Well she has videos on a whole range of topics. Quite a lot about trans rights and trans people. Each video deals with a different issue or a different topic. She's just very good at presenting her argument, she backs it up with reasons and logic, and she's great at presenting her arguments and simultaneously making her videos quirky, funny, and entertaining. I highly recommend checking out her videos. She really made me change my mind on a lot of issues.
/r/MensRights26/08/19 08:56 PM
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This was actually a great video. She always makes a very good and convincing case. Heyhowareyou?
/r/MensRights26/08/19 08:36 PM
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I don't really see a problem with that quote. He's kinda right. Like think about it, traditionally and throughout history the lives of women and children have always been valued more than men's, e.g. the whole women and children first mentality. Men have always been seen as somewhat disposable. We're there to protect women and children. Traditional masculinity is built, to a large degree, around accepting our disposability and having to be the strong one. And we all know where that societal pres…
/r/MensRights26/08/19 08:33 PM
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Any actual evidence to back up that claim?
/r/MensRights26/08/19 08:20 PM
1

K babes! xoxo
/r/MensRights25/08/19 11:44 AM
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I don't see any active harm occurring. I see a group of women advocating for themselves, and some men who join them in that advocacy.
/r/MensRights25/08/19 09:59 AM
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I find the fact that you claim to support men's rights but she call another man a traitor for simply having a different opinion to you very sad. It's probably why nobody really takes this sub or the men's rights movement seriously anymore,
/r/MensRights24/08/19 11:06 PM
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I don't support them, but I also don't not support them. I personally don't identify as a feminist, but I don't shit on people who do. In general, I support all men and women as long as they are not actively causing harm to other individuals.
/r/MensRights24/08/19 10:36 PM
1

Who exactly do I support?
/r/MensRights24/08/19 10:05 PM
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No, I just don't think whining about feminists all the time is helpful to men's rights in anyway. I highly doubt that bitching about feminists is going to solve the high male suicide rate or any of the other legitimate problems facing men. If you want a men's movement, then make one. But building it on the back of a victim complex is not the way to go.
/r/MensRights24/08/19 08:57 PM
0

How is it relevant? Are domestic abuse cases against men in space a common issue for men?
/r/MensRights24/08/19 08:50 PM
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Oh I know it's not the majority. But I'm just pointing out this fallacy is not exclusive to feminists. We should also be very careful not to use it too. And I did, and so did another Redditor who came to my defence.
/r/MensRights24/08/19 06:37 PM
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The amount of you shitting on other men so only for labelling themselves a feminist is ridiculous. I thought this sub was about men's rights. Shouldn't we be respecting other men's rights to a different opinion instead of tearing them down and calling them trash?
/r/MensRights24/08/19 06:36 PM
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To be fair, many people in this sub do it all the time too. I've been told I'm "not a real man" for calling somebody in this sub out on a homophobic comment, and several other times for simply disagreeing with somebody.
/r/MensRights24/08/19 06:32 PM
1

How is this a men's rights issue?
/r/MensRights24/08/19 06:29 PM
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Men aren't dogs though. And yeah, a lot of mass shooters grow up in abusive homes, but so too do a lot of women. So there has to be another factor. What I meant was I'd like to know the actual reason, determined by a proper study. Not guesses.
/r/MensRights16/08/19 05:13 PM
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While we can't and shouldn't make any moral judgements about any gender based on these kind of atrocities, it is interesting that mass shooters are overwhelmingly male. I'd really love to understand why that is. How would you even go about studying that though?
/r/MensRights16/08/19 05:05 PM
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I respect your right to your opinion man, but we'll just have to agree to disagree. I don’t care if you came here for a debate or not. A debate looking situation was presented by me and you engaged. Okay, well I didn't come here for a debate. I only engaged as a nicety as I try to respond to most people who comment on my posts. So to prevent any further confusion as to my intent I'm going to bow out now. Have a great weekend man.
/r/MensRights15/08/19 10:08 PM
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Man, honestly it's very hard to respond to all your points when your message is so long. But I'll do my best to deal with the main ones as concisely as I can. I respect that those are your experiences and that they have shaped your opinion. But my experiences are very different. I've definitely seen shitty behaviour from women being excused, but I've also seen women call out other women (maybe it's just my friends group). I agree with you that feminism seems to have run it's course and needs to …
/r/MensRights15/08/19 09:18 PM
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You see man, the reason I don't particularly agree with you (although you make points that are relevant in other cultural contexts, such as in the States). You, by your own admission, are basing this argument on a presumption of how women respond to other women doing this shitty behaviour. You're kind of taking about this as if it's a war or a struggle between men and women. I don't view it like that, and most people here don't either. The cultural context is different. We don't have these femin…
/r/MensRights15/08/19 11:16 AM
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I actually owe you an apology here. I had a lot of responses coming in at once and I got you confused with another guy on this post who was throwing homophobic slurs at me. I thought the comment I was responding to was about him, not you and in his case I wouldn't be surprised to find racist bullshit in his comment history. So for that I sincerely apologise. (Also, my response wasn't about the ED part. I wouldn't make fun of that. I take antidepressants, so occasionally I experience the same iss…
/r/MensRights14/08/19 07:30 AM
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because you disagreed with me yet provided no counter argument. You're right, I didn't provide a counter argument, because you didn't provide any evidence for your claim. You claimed that this poster would lead to more convictions of men, by men calling other men out, but very few to nil of women. That was your argument, am I correct? But you provided no evidence to suggest that's what will actually happen. When I disagreed with your "argument", I simply meant that I'm not convinced by your argu…
/r/MensRights14/08/19 07:23 AM
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K babes, whatever you say!
/r/MensRights14/08/19 07:12 AM
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Thank you for the heads up. I'm not really all that surprised. xD .
/r/MensRights13/08/19 06:35 PM
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You realise I'm not the one who put up the poster right? It was printed and distributed by the Government. I'm simply communicating to you what the purpose of the campaign is. You don't have to like it, and quite frankly I don't really care if you do. I like it, and clearly so do the 500+ people who've upvoted this post. And there you go. Calling me a feminist troll because we disagree. Pathetic. . . I'm sorry you don't like my opinion, but this sub isn't and shouldn't be an echo chamber, we sho…
/r/MensRights13/08/19 05:07 PM
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And why do you think that? And yes, of course I want to sway opinion, I also want my opinion to be swayed too, because I care about men and their rights, isn't that what this sub is for? To discuss men's rights issues, including what are are not men's issues and how best to deal with them? If you disagree with me, that's fine, but writing me off as a "fraud" simply because you disagree with me is quite a childish tactic. It's no better than the feminists who call people who disagree with them "t…
/r/MensRights13/08/19 04:40 PM
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I get your point. I just don't agree. Firstly, I don't think the poster is about increasing convictions. Just increasing awareness of sexual harassment in general. Secondly, I don't think men calling out other men for shitty behaviour is a bad thing. If a man or a women sexually harasses or abuses another person, they should be called out on it, regardless of gender. So more men getting called out on this behaviour when they commit it is a good thing. And if the poster can help more men (and wom…
/r/MensRights13/08/19 02:33 PM
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It also encourages men to call out women who are making them uncomfortable. It's a lesson I wish I had when I was a 16 year old waiter getting grobed by drunk middle aged women out on a hen night. Even if getting a conviction is hard, even if no action really is taken, it's sending the message to men that they shouldn't have to put up with that shit anymore than women should. Even it's not a particularly useful poster in terms of concrete action, I think it's nice to see in that it gives men a b…
/r/MensRights13/08/19 01:32 PM
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It doesn't matter whether you knew I was gay or not. It's a slur used against gay people. You think I should just sit there and take it, that I shouldn't stand up for myself and gay people? What's hilarious is how pissy and even more triggered you got when you were called out on it. Actually, no, I'm not a feminist, I don't particularly like their tactics or agree with their arguments, I always thought men were being unfairly judge by them, although talking to asshats like you makes me think may…
/r/MensRights13/08/19 01:08 PM
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Yeah, triggered. Jesus, even feminists have a thicker skin than you. Meanwhile guy gets triggered over poofter. If standing up for myself against a homophobic slur counts as being triggered, then yeah, I got triggered. Although, it seems you got even more triggered after I called you a prick. You can give it, but you can't take it.
/r/MensRights13/08/19 12:56 PM
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Hahaha xD That's hilarious coming from a guy who got triggered by a poster. I don't even think feminists are that easily triggered! xD
/r/MensRights13/08/19 12:48 PM
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And men don't need fragile little dipshits like you telling them how they should feel and behave! And honey, by all means, please keep attacking my masculinity if it's what you need to do to feel like a big man, I can take it. My masculinity isn't so fragile as yours.
/r/MensRights13/08/19 12:28 PM
1

You know, the more time I spend on this sub, the more I'm starting to realise that a lot of people here don't actually give a shit about men's rights. They just hate feminists. If you actually cared about men's rights, or had any intelligence at all you'd realise that having a gay man or other LGBT+ people who are sympathetic to the cause is a huge asset considering that women and feminists tend to view us more favourably and we're in a unique position to help make them realise that men's issues…
/r/MensRights13/08/19 12:09 PM
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Awww, it's cute that you think any of your homophoboc insults actually bother me. I grew up hearing worse from ass-wipes like you, although they could come up with better and more original insults! I'm well used to it honey. And I think it's hilarious that you think I'm the one who's triggered, when you literally got triggered by a fucking poster. xD
/r/MensRights13/08/19 11:48 AM
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You gave enough fucks to respond. . . No wonder nobody takes men's rights seriously when people like you are amongst us.
/r/MensRights13/08/19 11:30 AM
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It depends on the context of the touching. And with regards to your "poofter" comment, I actually am gay, so go fuck yourself, you absolute prick.
/r/MensRights13/08/19 11:25 AM
2

There actually was (and maybe still is) a campaign here against domestic violence. They show various situations of abuse with either a male or female victim in proportion with the statistics.
/r/MensRights13/08/19 10:42 AM
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I don't think anybody cares enough about it's presence to bother tagging it.
/r/MensRights13/08/19 10:40 AM
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This isn't "female sensitive bullshit", it's about individual dignity and respect. Nobody should be touched inappropriately when working and it shouldn't be tolerated. That's not playong up sensitivity, it's accepting that maybe harassment in the work place shouldn't be tolerated. And yes, she's touching his shouldn't, but the subtext hints to the being more to it, it's a public advertisement what do you expect them to do, show her tying him naked to a bed with a dildo up his ass? The poster is …
/r/MensRights13/08/19 10:40 AM
1

No, Dublin is in Leinster which is in the Republic of Ireland. Only 6 counties in the North are part of the UK.
/r/MensRights13/08/19 10:35 AM
1

Well this isn't really a crackdown so much as an awareness campaign. They're just encouraging people to come forward when it happens to them.
/r/MensRights13/08/19 10:32 AM
1

Ah okay, you meant geographic west. Generally when we say the "western world" here we mean Europe, North America, Australia and New Zealand.
/r/MensRights13/08/19 10:30 AM
2

Who will?
/r/MensRights12/08/19 08:14 PM
4

Shit man, that kind of harassment shouldn't be tolerated in a work place. I didn't have constant harassment, but when I was 16 I worked in a hotel bar in my hometown (southeast of Ireland). There would be hen parties (bachelorette parties for my American friends) and they all thought it was hilarious to flirt with and make inappropriate comments to the 16 year old waiter. One even went as far as to pinch my butt. . . I'm gay, and knew I was back then, so this made me incredibly uncomfortable. I …
/r/MensRights12/08/19 08:12 PM
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Eh, Ireland is in the West though, we're a Western nation. 😂 We have a spectrum of political opinions and most of us are quite left-leaning, we have our far-left feminists too, but mostly Irish women are quite reasonable. They recognise that men have their problems too.
/r/MensRights12/08/19 08:04 PM
12

Actually, no. Most of the women here are fully in support of things like this. It's part of a campaign against sexual harassment, there are also posters depicting women as the victim too.
/r/MensRights12/08/19 07:50 PM
6

So edgy!
/r/MensRights12/08/19 06:54 PM
1

Why doesn't she just get an abortion then? Unless she's to late term I guess.
/r/MensRights12/08/19 01:54 AM
-1

Yet another vacuous post just bitching about feminists instead of discussing actual men's rights issues. . . 🙄
/r/MensRights18/07/19 03:36 PM
10

Ah okay! I understand now. Yes I agree.
/r/MensRights14/07/19 05:50 PM
7

Sorry, I don't really get the relevance of this response to my comment?
/r/MensRights14/07/19 05:41 PM
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I've never understood why people, particularly non-religious people, or of other religions that don't have this practise still circumcise their kids. Like, I get that it has some particular health advantages, but why not let them grow up and decide if they want to it themselves? . . . I'm glad I'm from Europe, we don't really circumcise here.
/r/MensRights14/07/19 05:28 PM
1

I would agree with you if the wages of sports stars were based on hours worked, but they're not. I think the issue is more complex than you, and they, make it out to be.
/r/MensRights06/07/19 03:36 PM
1

Is the point of this post the pay breakdown for tennis players, or the fact that you got downvoted?
/r/MensRights06/07/19 03:26 PM
1

If your post is in anyway indicative of MGTOW, then yes, it's toxic. . . Have you considered that the reason you're not getting matches is because of this kind of attitude?. . . No woman is going to want you if you talk about women like that.
/r/MGTOW05/07/19 06:14 PM
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What's wrong with this? It's just art. Am I missing something?
/r/MGTOW05/07/19 06:09 PM
4

Some have, yes. While we may disagree with them, feminists aren't one homogenous group. They have varied opinions just like us and there's a lot of internal disagreement. . . I have a feminist friend or two who have expressed to me that they dislike how some of our other female friends hold their boyfriends up to an unreasonable and stereotyped image of masculinity.
/r/MensRights05/07/19 09:32 AM
1

It's an opinion. Based on my experience of being in this sub, not a claim. . . You're free to disagree.
/r/MensRights04/07/19 11:38 AM
1

And you're entitled to that opinion.
/r/MensRights04/07/19 10:56 AM
1

Oh I understand. I just disagree with you. I genuinely think both sides have become as bad as each other at this stage. . . But hey, I tried. Wish you all the best in life man.
/r/MensRights04/07/19 10:54 AM
1

How is it contradictory to say that I've come to common ground with some feminists, simply because others have called me a woman hater? You realise they're different people, right? They're not a hivemind, they're people with varied opinions too. . . I've had MRA's call me an "SJW" and a "cuck" in the past too, but I've also come to strong agreement with others. . . Is that also contradictory? And the ones who are defaming you are part of the problem. That's why I clearly said that BOTH sides nee…
/r/MensRights04/07/19 10:45 AM
1

There is no blame to be pinning. And I'm not blaming you for anything. I'm simply giving you some constructive criticism and advice from my own personal experience of how to engage in a polemic conversation with somebody in a polite manner that leads to actual constructive discourse. . . That's all. You're free to take that advice or leave it. But I'd advise you to consider it seriously because how you engage in debate while being a member of a community reflects on that community. . . In the sa…
/r/MensRights04/07/19 10:34 AM
1

No wonder you haven't had any constructive discussions with any of them. You claim to not be making blanket assumptions about people, yet every single one of those bullet points is a blanket assumption. You don't have to take my word for it. If you want to continue to have pointless ineffective doscourse, then hey that's up to you.
/r/MensRights04/07/19 07:35 AM
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All I'm saying, is we need to stop making assumptions about each other if we want to have civil discourse. I've managed to have civil discourse with more radical feminists too, and even find common ground. We also need to stop assuming ill-intent. If somebody identifies as a feminist, I'm not going to instantly assume they'll find any way to bash me for disagreeing with them. That kind of mentality isn't conducive to constructive discourse. . . Personally, I think both sides need to just start l…
/r/MensRights04/07/19 12:09 AM
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I've had this happen to me too. But I think we need to be a bit more nuanced in these claims. I've had this happens to me, by some feminists. Not all. Feminists are also a group with varied opinions. I've actually had some chats with some pretty reasonable feminists and we've even come to common ground on occasion. . . And to be honest, I've seen men on the MRA side also play similar tactics of calling people an "SJW" or a "cuck" for simply disagreeing on a given point. . . These kind of debate …
/r/MensRights03/07/19 11:56 PM
1

Well, if that's all you actually said, then yeah, that accusation is a little unfounded. Although maybe the reason they're getting a bit annoyed with you is because you're making a blanket assumption about the left, i.e. that they don't care about men's rights, which let's be fair and honest, is untrue. The left isn't one homogenous group, there are varied opinions. I'm a leftist, and I care about men's right, it's why I'm in this sub, and to be fair so do most leftists I know. . . If you make t…
/r/MensRights03/07/19 11:50 PM
1

What was the "anti-women rhetoric" that you were being accused of?
/r/MensRights03/07/19 11:35 PM
0

If that behaviour goes uncorrected, then he'll yeah, more likely! Agree with you completely!
/r/MensRights03/07/19 10:44 PM
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I see what you're saying, and I partially agree. The situations you describe are indeed accidental and unintentional. . . But the kid did intend to take those photos, and while he may not have had a sexual motive, it's important for the kid to understand that this behaviour unacceptable. That's all I'm really saying.
/r/MensRights03/07/19 12:36 PM
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I agree with you that labelling him a future sex-offender is ridiculous, he's a kid and doesn't understand what he was doing, but we can't forget that what he was doing was sexual harassment, even if he wasn't aware that's what it was, so that's why it's important for his parents to explain to him that this behaviour is unacceptable. . . The kid isn't a sex-offender and it's unlikely he'll ever turn out to be. Some people are going OTT on that post. This experience, while inappropriate behaviour…
/r/MensRights03/07/19 11:21 AM
4

You can wear wake-up if you want though. . . I apply concealer and foundation every day.
/r/MensRights01/07/19 03:37 PM
6

Maybe he meant "trans male"? People mix the terms up a lot.
/r/MensRights30/06/19 02:52 PM
2

Thank you! I'll give it a read. Domestic violence against men is far too commonly swept under the rug.
/r/MensRights28/06/19 11:08 AM
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Excellent! Thank you for the clear sources! I always like to make sure I have an article I can cite if I ever being this up in a discussion about domestic violence.
/r/MensRights28/06/19 11:02 AM
1

Are there any sources for this claim? They mention studies, but it doesn't look like they provided any.
/r/MensRights28/06/19 09:38 AM
1

Ah okay, sorry!
/r/MensRights27/06/19 12:08 PM
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Because OP asked me to provide him with such a story (despite it being irrelevant) when I pointed out to him that using a man's death to further a political agenda is in poor taste and that this man's death had nothing to do with toxic masculinity or men's rights. . . This redditor kindly gave OP what he asked for.
/r/MensRights27/06/19 11:57 AM
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Just because they're using horrible irrelevant crimes against women to further a political agenda doesn't mean we should. We should be holding ourselves to a better standard than r/feminism, not stooping to their level. Honestly, this sub is becoming less about actual men's rights everyday and becoming just as bad as the very feminism that this sub condemns.
/r/MensRights27/06/19 11:32 AM
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This is not okay. Not because she's a woman, she completely deserved the first retaliation. But to continue hitting somebody, regardless of gender, when they're already down is not okay.
/r/MensRights27/06/19 11:24 AM
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Can you please not use a man's death to further a political agenda. It's in very poor taste and has nothing to do with men's rights or toxic masculinity.
/r/MensRights27/06/19 11:18 AM
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Why not?
/r/MensRights27/06/19 08:25 AM
2

It should be available free. In my country it is. If you go to one of our state-run dental clinics you can get all dental hygiene products for free. The same goes for condoms, lube, tampons, etc if you go to a sexual health clinic. You don't get a choice of brand or anything, it's all generic, but it makes those products available freely for those who can't afford them or don't want to.
/r/MensRights21/06/19 05:49 PM
2

And toothpaste has been around for less than that, yet I still consider it a necessity. If your standard for a "necessity" is simply that without which we cannot survive, then we don't really "need" anything other than food or water. Personally, I consider feminine hygiene products, and hygiene products in general to be a necessity. They make life significantly easier and more hygienic which is better for health.
/r/MensRights21/06/19 05:20 PM
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Personally I'm all for it. They're essential products for women and I strongly believe that all people should have access to the necessities regardless of their financial means.
/r/MensRights21/06/19 01:46 PM
3

Sadly, these kind of things are happening all over the western world. Although, I live in Ireland and things aren't so bad here. There'll always be those kind of people though.
/r/MensRights18/06/19 11:59 AM
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No, I'm a man. And I'm not commenting to start a debate. I genuinely don't know what you mean by "being a man"? And I can't answer that question until I understand specifically what it is that you cannot do in the US in that regard?
/r/MensRights18/06/19 11:42 AM
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What do you mean by "allowed to be a man"? What constitutes "being a man"?
/r/MensRights18/06/19 11:37 AM
1

I'm talking about variety in terms of races, genders, sexual orientations, etc. I like to see female super heroes, I like to see black superheroes, I like to see gay super heroes, and so on. . . I just like variety. It makes life interesting.
/r/MensRights17/06/19 10:28 PM
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Jaysus man, you're getting way too worked up about this. What's wrong with having a bit of variety in super hero movies, even if it isn't realistic or characteristic of most women. It's a super hero movie, it's not meant to be realistic. And to be honest, I really don't get that underlying message. I can see why you feel that way, but I just find it a very depressing way of looking at it.
/r/MensRights17/06/19 08:26 PM
1

And how many films with female protagonists have pulled the same shady stuff? Not just lines degenerating men but also making male protagonists out to be uselss and wrong like she was doing here? I don't know. How many? And I think you're reading into it a little too much. It's just a movie, with two characters, one who is a woman, disagreeing with the actions/decisions of another who happen to be a man. Of course she's going to portray him as useless and wrong, otherwise there would be no disag…
/r/MensRights17/06/19 07:59 PM
1

Not defending the film as I haven't seen it. But I don't really think that scene is so bad. I'm certainly not going to rage over it. It was just a shady comment.
/r/MensRights17/06/19 07:52 PM
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Thanks for the advice! It's a shame because I actually quite like Sophie Turner. . . Think I'll probably spend our money on a movie more worthwhile!
/r/MensRights17/06/19 05:12 PM
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You felt the same how? Just asking because my bf and I are planning on watching it on Wednesday.
/r/MensRights17/06/19 05:09 PM
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If you're not happy with how women are portrayed in superhero movies then go write your own and try get it filmed. Not all girls fall into the category of femininity that you've described here, women are not one homogenous group, and it's nice for those girls who enjoy superhero movies to see themselves represented in some way in such movies. Variety is nice.
/r/MensRights17/06/19 04:55 PM
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What's the harm in promoting something that doesn't get much attention? That's the point of marketing, to garner attention. Nielson Sports (a data analytics company) found that 84% of general sports fans in the US, UK, France, Italy, Germany, Spain, Australia, and New Zealand are interested in women's sports. Women's sports are on the rise and this could be a result of the coverage you're complaining about. And the data shows that there is an interest, so why not promote it?
/r/MensRights17/06/19 02:22 PM
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The problem is they made the movie trying to appeal to a predominantly female and feminist crowd. This is what happens when you make a movie to virtue signal, just like the Ghostbusters remake. It really is a shame though. I like to see female super heroes, and it's nice for little girls to have a super hero to see themselves in too, but hey, at least they still have Wonder Woman. That movie was great! And Gal Gadot is badass!
/r/MensRights17/06/19 11:28 AM
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That's why I said "most" and not "all". There'll always be exceptions.
/r/MensRights15/06/19 10:20 AM
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Don't confuse courtesy for caring. Have a good life man.
/r/MensRights14/06/19 05:20 PM
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Because I couldn't care less about what you think or about convincing you... That's why. Now you can chalk that up to what you like. I really don't care.
/r/MensRights14/06/19 04:43 PM
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No, I can find plenty. I'm just not bothered getting into a futile debate with you about whether or not this post or that post shows a sense of entitlement, because at the end of the day, all we can get is an impression of a person from that, and your impression is clearly different to mine. I'm happy to leave it there and just accept that we have different opinions because I'm not really bothered about convincing you otherwise, especially since that one sentence isn't really all to relevant to …
/r/MensRights14/06/19 04:37 PM
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Care to point to a specific post? No, not really. I'm not really interested in getting into a debate about your impression of ehat these men are thinking. You don't see what I see, that's fine. As I said, my original point here is that women aren't demonising men who who are upset they got rejected. They're demonising the ones who deal with that rejection badly by calling them a whore, slut, or worse. That kind of behaviour, IMO, seems like it comes from a sense of entitlement. You're free to di…
/r/MensRights14/06/19 04:17 PM
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Go check out the subreddit I linked there. Read a few of the posts and you'll see, the most certainly are guys who think being nice to a woman makes them deserving of sex. . . I, not none of the men I know approach dating this way, but If some men have been taught wrong how to go about dating women, that's a not a woman's fault. They have every right to criticise and demonise a guy who calls her a "whore, slut, bitch, etc" (or much worse) simply because she doesn't want a relationship with him o…
/r/MensRights14/06/19 02:46 PM
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They don't demonise men who are upset they got rejected. They demonise r/niceguys , i.e. the ones who think simply being nice to a woman makes them deserving of sex, the ones who insult, berate, and make sexist comments towards women when they're rejected. The women in my life are actually very sympathetic towards men who get continually rejected, and get upset (i.e. sad, not angry and abusive). I can't continue the number of times my female friends have comforted one of my guy friends after a p…
/r/MensRights14/06/19 01:32 PM
1

You raise an important issue. There is a bit of a double standard there. But the solution is to convince society that men should have an out too if they didn't consent to parenthood; not to regress and remove rights from women. . . We should always seek to gain rights for ourselves, and not take them from others.
/r/MensRights13/06/19 03:39 PM
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IMO, no, not compared to the living, breathing, self-aware, conscious, and fully grown woman. This is the problem with the abortion debate, and why it's so difficult, pro-life and pro-choice are both looking out for the rights of an individual. For you it's the embryo, foetus, baby, or whatever you want to call it. For me, it's the woman. . . It's not an easy issue, but both sides are just doing what they think is right.
/r/MensRights13/06/19 03:34 PM
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Seriously. How many times in the last month have I mentioned my career or my qualifications? You insinuate that I do it a lot for no reason, so come on, back up your accusation with proof. Go suck a fat dick you dumb prick, i dont give a wet shit about you, or your opinions. You cared enough to respond several times, and enough to get butt-hurt and start throwing around insults like a child.
/r/MensRights13/06/19 09:44 AM
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Yeah, I don't think that's reasonable.
/r/MensRights13/06/19 09:41 AM
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Firstly, I don't care. . . Secondly, how many times in the last month have I mentioned my career? You make it sound like I mention it in ever post. Fonally, you might want to stop looking down on people's jobs, like receptionists. That makes you seem like a huge dick.
/r/MensRights13/06/19 09:32 AM
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I mentioned it because it gives context of how little money I make and that fact that I have experience living (or attempting to at least) on a comparable wage to a receptionist. We earn fuck all. And the only posts I ever mention my qualifications in are the ones in Physics based subreddits, because that is the field of my qualifications. But either way, I've probably only mentioned such in a handful of posts in my entire time on Reddit.
/r/MensRights13/06/19 09:26 AM
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20k is a miniscule amount. I'm a PhD student, and when you account for tax I get roughly the same as them from my stioend. . . It's actually incredibly difficult to live on that, believe me. I don't know the last time you went to your GPs office or to a hospital but the receptionists I know actually do quite a lot of work. Anytime I visit my doctor they're always rushed off their feet.
/r/MensRights13/06/19 09:04 AM
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Then get more men to go into such positions.
/r/MensRights13/06/19 09:00 AM
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There is a strong argument that in health care there should be a gender balance. Oh without doubt, I'd love to see a greater gender balance in health care, and most fields to be honest, but that's not the world we live in. Much more needs top be done to get men to go to the doctors. Females visit the GPs 5 times as much as a males across all age groups. I agree, but I don't think forcing gender quotas is the solution. I'm going to give you the same advice I give to feminists complaining about th…
/r/MensRights13/06/19 08:59 AM
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How much do you think a receptionist gets paid?
/r/MensRights13/06/19 08:48 AM
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So simply because the population is roughly 50:50 men and woman all positions should have equal numbers of men and women regardless of the proportion in which they apply? So if there is are jobs going as receptionists at a hospital/GP practise, there are 10 positions, 20 women apply and only 5 men, so those 5 men should get the position automatically, regardless of how qualified they are, simply to fill a quota? That's a very third-wave feminism argument. Also, if you request a male staff member…
/r/MensRights13/06/19 08:43 AM
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No there should be equal numbers of male and female GP's and equal numbers of male and female nurses. Why should there be? There is no need for a receptionist. Machines can't do all the jobs required of a receptionist.
/r/MensRights13/06/19 08:25 AM
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Well what do you suggest, that they fire receptionists for being women?
/r/MensRights13/06/19 08:11 AM
1

They do understand in fairness. Everybody understand the pro-life stance. Most pro-choice people recognize that life forms at conception, we just don't think that a zygote or an embryo should have equal right to that of the full grown, self-aware, and conscious woman. Both pro-life and pro-choice are just doing what they think is right. They're both looking out for the rights of an individual, the only difference between them is which individual they are focusing on. For pro-lifers it's the foet…
/r/MensRights13/06/19 07:27 AM
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Slavery is a bit of a strong word. But she makes a good point. Forcing a woman to undergo a pregnancy she doesn't want is kind of like holding her body hostage. We should all have the right to decide what happens to our bodies.
/r/MensRights13/06/19 07:22 AM
1

That's nothing new though. Most companies pretend to express certain values to improve their bottom line. Most companies only care about profit. A similar comparison is gay pride. As we're coming into to gay pride season a lot of companies will start plastering their shop fronts in rainbow flags. A lot of people in the LGBT community hate it and criticise it a lot, and I get that, but at the same time, it reinforces acceptance of us as a social norm. It's a win-win situation. We get acceptance, …
/r/MensRights31/05/19 08:15 AM
2

What's wrong with it? I think it's actually sweet. It's certainly better than their last ad.
/r/MensRights30/05/19 09:55 PM
3

In fairness, don't Japan have a seriously problem with women being groped on public transport, especially during rush hour? Also, these women only cars aren't legally binding. Men are just asked not to use them during rush hour.
/r/MensRights30/05/19 06:04 AM
1

It depends on the tone and context of how they are said. If there is any sexual undertone or context to a remark like this then both cases are inappropriate in the work place.
/r/MensRights25/05/19 05:23 PM
1

xD
/r/MensRights23/05/19 11:06 PM
1

Lol
/r/MensRights23/05/19 11:02 PM
1

Lol! #Triggered
/r/MensRights23/05/19 10:59 PM
1

Lol! Aww honey, it's cute you think I'm bothered by the comments of an incel yank from a country with less culture than a probiotic yoghurt. xD
/r/MensRights23/05/19 10:53 PM
1

Sure! I believe ya! Agus go raibh míle as ucht an ráiteas ciníoch! Ach táim an-bhródúil a bheith i mo "phaddy". Nach mór an aiféala é nar ghinmhill do mháthair thú! I'm done with you now. Have to go help my gf with a bottle of gin and a scalding hot bath.
/r/MensRights23/05/19 10:27 PM
1

Sounds more like you can't handle somebody having a different opinion to you. . . That's kinda sad man.
/r/MensRights23/05/19 10:18 PM
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Sounds like you're the one who wants a debate. Not me.
/r/MensRights23/05/19 10:15 PM
1

Calling abortion a "right" night seem "inflammatory" to you, but have you considered that maybe the reason you think that is because of your own bias? I'm sorry you have a problem with somebody expressing an opinion. But that's your problem, not mine. Have a good life man.
/r/MensRights23/05/19 10:09 PM
1

I never claimed to have neutral purpose. I simply said I didn't come here to debate abortion.
/r/MensRights23/05/19 10:03 PM
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I'm entitled to have a view and to express that view. I never claimed to be unbiased. The last comment is actually me being open and obvious about my bias. I have no obligation to be neutral. But my opinion on abortion doesn't change the point: these type of posts negatively affect the MR movement.
/r/MensRights23/05/19 09:53 PM
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My comment was simply to point out that these kinds of posts create a toxic atmosphere that debases the sub itself and the men's rights movement, regardless of how any of us feel about abortion. I could engage with you in a debate on abortion, but honestly, I don't think it would go anywhere. I've learned over the years that pro-lifers and pro-choicers are both viewing this argument from two very different philosophic lenses, and that both sides are looking out for the rights of an individual, t…
/r/MensRights23/05/19 09:45 PM
1

Again, I disagree. But I'm not here to debate abortion.
/r/MensRights23/05/19 09:35 PM
1

I disagree, but fine, maybe "a freedom" is a better description than "a right".
/r/MensRights23/05/19 09:34 PM
1

Maybe a better choice of words would be "we shouldn't be celebrating women loosing a freedom". . . I personally view abortion as a right, but I know that everyone doesn't. So maybe "freedom" is a better word. Edit: I know you're not. I get that from your responses. But OP seems to be, and my interaction with him has only convinced me of that further.
/r/MensRights23/05/19 09:25 PM
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Well I only have my initial impressions to go on. So I'll take your comments into consideration and see how the sub is. . . I'll speak my mind, freely and openly, and I'll see where it gets me. xD I'm glad to see I'm not the only worried about the atmosphere of this sub though. :-)
/r/MensRights23/05/19 09:23 PM
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My argument was that this kind of post is not relevant to men's rights. It actually just tars the atmosphere of the group, regardless of how you feel about abortion. I'm not here to argue the morality of abortion. I have my mind made up on that issue and I don't see the point in getting into a debate about it, particularly because abortion, whether it's legal it not, does not and will not affect me. My message is simple: if we really care about men's rights, then we should be respectfully focusi…
/r/MensRights23/05/19 09:20 PM
1

From what of it I've seen so far, I don't think that's true. If anything it seems they're more focused on genuine men's issues than this sub. I joined this sub because I don't buy the modern feminist narrative that men are privileged and have all the power. I think men are vulnerable, just like any other human being and that we have issues too that need to be dealt with but are sadly often overlooked. . . I thought that this sub would be the place where those issues are highlighted and discussed…
/r/MensRights23/05/19 12:45 PM
1

That's a separate issues to my argument here. I'm not debating the morality of abortion (although I vehemently disagree with you on that, I'm very pro-choice), I'm pointing out that posts like this serve only to create a toxic environment that leads to legitimate men's rights issues not being taken seriously.
/r/MensRights23/05/19 12:34 PM
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It seems that's where our main disagreement lies then. I personally prioritise bodily autonomy over anything else. And I don't necessarily agree that this ban makes things more equal. I consider the cases you're describing as two departed but very loosely related situations.
/r/MensRights22/05/19 10:30 PM
2

Sadly I've noticed this too. Thank you for the recommendation, I just subbed.
/r/MensRights22/05/19 10:19 PM
-1

That's a separate issue. . . You can't really equate biological abortion to "legal" abortion, as banning legal abortion deprives a woman of her bodily autonomy. With regards to "legal" abortion, I feel that a man should be able to opt out of paying for/raising a child he does not want, so in that respect we agree, but the comparison you made just isn't a fair comparison.
/r/MensRights22/05/19 09:58 PM
10

What about them? Just because they're toxic and treat men unfairly doesn't mean we should stoop to their level.
/r/MensRights22/05/19 09:42 PM
-9

When were they not equal? . . . The only thing stopping a man from getting an abortion prior to this ban was biology, not the law.
/r/MensRights22/05/19 09:35 PM
2

Based on my interaction with OP, I highly doubt that.
/r/MensRights22/05/19 08:29 PM
-10

Everything you said there is true. And they are all legitimate issues facing men that can be discussed seriously without celebrating women in Alabama getting screwed over.
/r/MensRights22/05/19 07:46 PM
8

I couldn't disagree with you more, but you're entitled to your view.
/r/MensRights22/05/19 06:40 PM
4

That's a separate issue, one I disagree with, but a separate issue.
/r/MensRights22/05/19 03:56 PM
5

If you properly explained your reasoning maybe I could understand it. But your unwillingness to clarify further gives me the feeling that I hit the nail on the head initially, that you're just bitter towards women and were in fact celebrating them losing a right they once had, you just don't want to admit it because you've been called out on it. That's fine. Have a good life.
/r/MensRights22/05/19 03:54 PM
5

Celebrating women losing their rights will do nothing but create a toxic environment in this sub that will undermine the very movement for men's rights itself. This kind of BS attitude is why men's rights issues aren't taken seriously. And removing abortion for women doesn't level the playing the field.
/r/MensRights22/05/19 03:49 PM
0

No you didn't really. You gave a one sentence statement about "juxtaposition" that didn't really clarify anything at all regarding your motives, intent or the specific relevancy to men's rights. Now if you want to clarify further, I'm all ears, but if you're just going to leave it at that, then you can't blame people for misinterpreting your vague post (assuming I'm actually misinterpreting it).
/r/MensRights22/05/19 03:44 PM
-3

Well you haven't proven me wrong, or clarified. If I've misinterpreted your intent then I sincerely apologise, but if you make a vague post without any explanation of your motive/intent then you can't blame others for misinterpreting it. Would you care to explain the relevance of this post to men's rights and what your intent actually was?
/r/MensRights22/05/19 03:40 PM
2

This post isn't about men or their rights. You're celebrating the fact that countless women in Alabama have lost a right they once had. Please don't turn this sub into a petty celebration of women getting screwed over.
/r/MensRights22/05/19 03:35 PM
16

I thought this sub was about discussing men's rights issues, not celebrating other groups losing their rights?
/r/MensRights22/05/19 03:31 PM
2

I'd consider myself centre-left. I identify more with the left and progressiveness, but I'm very critical of the far left as well as the far right.
/r/MensRights28/04/19 04:36 PM
1

Why do you "need" to get banned?
/r/MensRights09/03/19 06:43 PM
3

I'd recommend not going to the feminist group. They won't answer your question, they'll just ban you for asking it. I recommend asking on the r/TwoXChromosomes sub instead. They'll actually engage with your question and answer.
/r/MensRights09/03/19 06:40 PM
3

What? Can you rephrase this a little more coherently please? I've no idea what point you're trying to make.
/r/MensRights09/03/19 06:35 PM
5

But I'm not claiming it doesn't exist. So I don't know what counter evidence I would use. All I know this far is that I have not been presented with sufficiently convincing evidence that toxic masculinity is a thing.
/r/MensRights09/03/19 06:33 PM
5

What evidence is there for it? The burden of proof is on the one making the claim.
/r/MensRights09/03/19 06:28 PM
13

Do you feel like a big boy now? Are you ready to put your toys back in the pram?
/r/MensRights20/02/19 07:44 PM
1

Well you can always unfollow, you're never trapped here. But maybe this sub needs more of your point of view, somebody who genuinely cares about men's issues but isn't interested in just slamming feminists and entitled women. I feel I kinda fall into that category. I'm here because I feel mens' issues are genuinely overlooked in modern society, but I also hate the anti-women / anti-feminost posts that some people put up here because they're not entirely relevant to actual mens' issues.
/r/MensRights16/02/19 01:04 PM
1

Some of the post are just slander against women and feminists, yes. But there are legitimate posts about men's issues here too.
/r/MensRights16/02/19 12:42 PM
29

Jesus. . . It never fails to astonish me how fucked up some countries are.
/r/MensRights12/02/19 12:28 PM
6

We should just do away with gendered bathrooms altogether. I really don't get why we need to have them separated by gender.
/r/MensRights10/02/19 02:09 AM
0

Convenient. So how do you know what the results of the study were? How do you know there legitimate?
/r/MensRights02/02/19 04:00 PM
1

Man, this says that they deleted the press release, not the study.
/r/MensRights02/02/19 02:30 PM
1

It seems we mostly agree then. I just think that if people are suffering from gender dysphoria and transitioning helps them be happier, then more power to them. It's their body and their life. As it stands, we don't really know what causes GD, and as it stands right now the best treatment to alleviate the distress of trans is to transition.
/r/MensRights02/02/19 02:29 PM
2

You can't really fairly compare suicide to gender dysphoria. In the case of suicide, I believe you that stories of suicide in the media can encourage other already depressed people to commit suicide also. I also believe that stories of transitioning can encourage other already gender dysphoric people to transition. However, you make it sound like the trangender "trend" is causing gender dysphoria. That would be similar to saying that stories of suicide cause depression in otherwise healthy peopl…
/r/MensRights02/02/19 12:04 PM
1

Can you provide me with a link to that study? If it were published in a reputable academic journal then it wouldn't have been removed. And even if it were, the manuscript would still be available somewhere online, such as Sci-Hub.
/r/MensRights02/02/19 11:59 AM
3

This article is a load of BS. It makes one good point, which is that gender is not a choice (nor do I believe it's fluid) but it makes it sound like women are getting mastectomies and going on hormones because it's a "trend". Gender dysphoria and transgenderism are legitimate medical conditions. A better explanation (IMO) for this "rapid onset gender dysphoria" is that it's not rapid onset. These people likely have felt like this for a very long time but couldn't talk to their parents or do anyt…
/r/MensRights02/02/19 10:10 AM
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This is an absolutely brilliant piece! It put into words some things that I was feeling that I couldn't find the right words to express.
/r/MensRights25/01/19 02:28 PM
3

Of course it's supposition! (Well actually, more a doubt) xD Hence why I used the words "I'd imagine" and why I place a "?" at the end.
/r/MensRights16/01/19 02:56 PM
4

I'm not sure if the issue is purely vasectomy. I'd imagine these countries and regions also restrict women getting their fallopian tubes tied?
/r/MensRights16/01/19 02:40 PM
103

But dud this girl get the guy's afformative consent before putting his penis on her mouth?
/r/MensRights12/11/18 01:34 PM
1

And I don't want the potential of getting stabbed with a bread knife, but I'm not going to suggest that we should ban bread knives. xD Like, I see your point, I just think you're worrying too much about a highly unlikely scenario.
/r/MensRights31/10/18 01:28 PM
0

Well it depends what you're doing. I think there should still be urinals. I just see any actual necessity for bathrooms to be gendered.
/r/MensRights31/10/18 01:22 PM
0

Okay, so what's your pont with this? You can't form a trend from an outlier. You can't really assume that this scenario is going to become a prolific problem because it happened once.
/r/MensRights31/10/18 01:19 PM
1

I'm not disagreeing with you man. I agree that men's bathrooms aren't as private as women's. My original comment was just that I think one bathroom for everyone would be better. It would also solve the bathroom for Trans people dilemma too.
/r/MensRights31/10/18 09:07 AM
1

Want to expand on that a little?
/r/MensRights31/10/18 09:03 AM
0

What about them? You're assuming they're going to be accused of something.
/r/MensRights30/10/18 10:50 PM
0

The "we're all adults" comment is a colloquial expressions used in my city. It just means we're all mature enough to share a bathroom, or at least we should be. In retrospect it's a bad choice of expression. And I never said men aren't entitled to the same privacy. I said I'd rather have gender neutral bathroom, i.e. no gendered bathrooms, just bathrooms for everyone.
/r/MensRights30/10/18 09:06 PM
4

Well, I don't think they need to be, but I certainly it's more practical to have them in a separate room. But that's easily achievable. A unisex bathroom that opens up onto a bunch of stall, and then another room inside the bathroom with some urinals for men, to decrease queues and traffic.
/r/MensRights30/10/18 03:07 PM
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Personally, I think all bathrooms should just be gender neutral. We're all adults, we can deal with sharing a bathroom. But most definitely, this is a huge double standard.
/r/MensRights30/10/18 02:59 PM
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