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All excellent advice. My thoughts: Have a lamp in the bedroom and put it on a dimmer -- some of them want light, some not, just give yourself options. In the car, keep an umbrella, bottle of water, and a Tide-to-go stainstick. Be prepared. In the bathroom, keep a small drawer or whatever with basic ladies' needs -- tampons, shave gel, razor, facewash, some cotton ball things for makeup removal. Cheers
/r/seduction25/01/12 09:13 PM
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Well played, sir.
/r/seduction02/01/11 05:08 PM
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Cheers to that!
/r/seduction02/01/11 05:08 PM
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You're overthinking this. Cool your jets. Ice her immediately -- respond if she calls/texts/emails/whatever, but not right away, make her mind spin, thinking that you've got better things to think about than her. Don't initiate contact for at least a few months. Respond if she initiates, but don't go out of your way to talk to her. When you see her in the next few months (around town, at school, wherever), act like she's a dude. Nothing awkward, no hard feelings, just a smile and "what's up?" wi…
/r/seduction02/01/11 12:13 AM
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Lot of comments here berating you for closing your buddy's "girl" -- my view is don't sweat it. There's only one person looking out for you -- and that's YOU. You're fine. Stay alpha. Gotta run, the hunt is on tonight!
/r/seduction31/12/10 10:43 PM
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Inspiring post. I've lost many friends and lovers over the course of my life and I wholeheartedly agree -- live for the day, the moment -- be happy all the time and surround yourself with those who are happy and make you happy. Good that you knew her and had that experience. Nothing you can do to change anything now, just learn from this and apply it to life as you move forward. Stay well.
/r/seduction28/12/10 05:45 AM
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I've done that too -- but you're talking about a different dynamic when it's a group. I had a pretty good gig going when I was in college -- you meet a group of women, usually a sports team or a sorority, and you take home the low-lying fruit and show her a really good time. Then she brags to her friends about how great the sex was and the next time you see them, you ignore the hot ones completely. Just keep them spinning. They try to outdo one another and ... bada bing. Shit just falls into pla…
/r/seduction28/12/10 05:12 AM
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Absolutely agree. If you message her, you could lose the alpha that you established through all that hard work at the bar that night. Sounds like you did a great job, and just let things roll. You'll run into her again, and will be better off for having had other things (and HB's) to do. I do this all the time, and it's very successful, though it's 'long-cycle' as opposed to an F-close on the first night. I call it "leverage banking" -- building up a cadre of women that you may run into on any g…
/r/seduction24/12/10 12:23 AM
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Watch Casablanca. Watch how Bogey sits and looks at Ingrid Bergman, watch her reactions to --not so much what he says-- but how he says it, and how he carries himself, particularly sitting at that table talking to the police chief right before curfew. Read the wiki. Read field reports. Go to bars/coffehouses (or wherever you like to hang) and get your face known by the staff. Build cred with them, so that as these places become your lairs, you can be much cooler, naturally. Quick FR: last night,…
/r/seduction21/10/10 08:03 PM
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It is pointless to have 1-5 be unused, but most men haven't actually ever met an 8, 9, or 10, so they automatically scale up their HB's -- so I just adapt. No bother, really. Sorta like driving 75 when I could easily be doing 120 on US highways. Except for the other people on the road. You just have to adapt.
/r/seduction19/10/10 01:52 PM
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It's an interesting idea but I pretty much apply HB5-9 the same way your D-A system works.
/r/seduction18/10/10 09:59 PM
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Excellent advice.
/r/seduction17/10/10 12:23 AM
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I really enjoy a number close when there's a bodyguard around. It's a great exercise in understanding the human ego. And I love the challenge. Best case scenario: Engage all three ladies before class (this will allow you a convenient time constraint -- "gotta go, class is starting," and then "bump into them" again afterwards). Focus your attention on the "lesser attractive" of the two bodyguards -- this will send your target and her other bodyguard into a questioning mode: "Why is he paying atte…
/r/seduction10/10/10 04:53 AM
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Thanks. Like I said, I was just in the right frame and had the right amount of swagger/confidence/etc. Most likely FWB, which she alluded to in a conversation earlier in the night. But who knows... I'm spinning two right now, so adding her to the mix will drive things a little harder.
/r/seduction04/10/10 08:36 PM
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Yes, she would have been up for it -- but I have no need to push for an full close on the first meetup. Plenty of time for that. I'll catch her this week. I banged someone else all night Friday.
/r/seduction04/10/10 08:36 PM
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My goal is to move her into a FWB situation and then move a current FWB onto the shelf for a bit. I like to rotate them a bit. Yes, she certainly wants to fuck. She made that perfectly clear -- and yep, I got LJBF'd about a week ago by another chick -- which is actually OK, cause she's turning into a pretty good drinkin' buddy. I will test the waters soon to see if she can wing. Regarding external validation -- this is always a grey area -- some people thrive on it. I am certainly among them, bu…
/r/seduction04/10/10 08:34 PM
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Thank you! I've been able to hone my skill with tips I've picked up from others' FR's. Not that I'm any master, I'm content with my game and always looking to improve mine and others'.
/r/seduction04/10/10 08:24 PM
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Absolutely -- they are different. I got the read from him that he was feeling like being incognito that night so I worked that angle when the opportunity presented itself.
/r/seduction04/10/10 06:33 PM
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YAAAHHH!! ROAR!!
/r/seduction04/10/10 05:22 PM
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Excellent post. There's a scotch bar in my town that's arguably the best-stocked in New York State -- it attracts a highbrow clientèle from the area. Well, I'm in there with a friend of mine and two well-dressed gentlemen come in and one of them is clearly Congressman Scott Murphy, who has an office a block away. I wasn't really interested in talking to him, so my friend and I pretty much ignored them. At some point in the night, they asked us a question and we all started chatting. I introduced…
/r/seduction04/10/10 04:50 PM
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Yeah, I have to agree with aplocalyptic here -- the second of his examples above is the least creepy. Although I would eliminate the part about "just wanted to come up and say hi" -- I'd just go with the "Hi, we're in the same Underwater Basketweaving class -- I'm offshore_coppertop."
/r/seduction04/10/10 03:56 PM
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Yeah, it's just getting easier and easier. I spent a good amount of time in college going for the full close on the first night, but I've shifted out of that mindset, and don't aim for it. Really takes the pressure off and is a huge confidence boost.
/r/seduction03/10/10 08:24 PM
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I had an event last year that was going to involve dancing and was attending with a new GF who I wanted to impress -- so I took a bunch of dance lessons at a local studio the week leading up to the date. At the event, there were a bunch of couples on the dance floor early on, but then the music kicked up a notch and the older couples faded. Eventually, it's ten girls dancing together, one drunk guy making an ass of himself, and my woman and I. All these girls are like, melting, because my lady a…
/r/seduction03/10/10 08:22 PM
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Thank you. There have been plenty of times when I've locked up and failed as well -- so it was nice to execute this one really well.
/r/seduction03/10/10 06:23 PM
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The difference between 'pardon me' and 'excuse me' is very fine and I appreciate your bringing it to the discussion. I am better for having that knowledge. As for the rest of your discourse, it's very interesting to understand more of the lexical and cultural differences between these countries. Thanks!!
/r/seduction03/10/10 06:21 AM
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Heh. I get 'em all the time -- but they're generally ex's that I have no business being involved with. FML
/r/seduction03/10/10 05:56 AM
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You bring up a very interesting cultural difference between the US and Japan. I was not aware of the Japanese 'apology' that you mentioned a few comments ago. Although deleted, the original poster appeared to have misunderstood something he was told once. The correct statement is actually "A gentleman never says 'I'm sorry' unless he has given offense," and comes from a set of style manuals made for the "proper gentleman" and marketed by Brooks Brothers. This particular book is titled, "As A Gen…
/r/seduction03/10/10 05:39 AM
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I got the LJBF from a HB about a week ago -- I'm going to keep her around because she's a solid drinking buddy and likes to hang at one of my lairs. And it's far easier to open a set when your wing is a HB. Sometimes, it's just practical. Cheers!
/r/seduction29/09/10 02:33 PM
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Dude. Post game meetup at the bar. I used to play rec league softball and this was a great way to hook up.
/r/seduction24/09/10 08:03 PM
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Yes. Excellent. Thank you for the added detail.
/r/seduction24/09/10 02:57 PM
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You're quite welcome. Up and at 'em!!
/r/seduction23/09/10 08:46 PM
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I lived in Boston for several years and commuted the two miles to work by foot, pending weather -- so that's about an hour of walking every day. During this time, I studied exactly what you're talking about -- what makes a nice sidewalk interaction ... or what makes it creepy? I'm an interactive guy. I'm 36, an engineer, easy smile, non-threatening, average-or-better attractiveness, etc. So why do I still get that "get away from me, creeper" look from some women? If she's insecure, she's not rea…
/r/seduction23/09/10 04:54 PM
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Do anything. Just do it like a boss. Say "Fahrvergnügen" with a half-cocked smile and see where it goes, à la the movie "Love Potion #9" -- watch him when he goes back into the bar and sits down next to the HB6 in the black dress.
/r/seduction22/09/10 07:34 PM
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I applaud the objectivity with which you see your relationship with this guy. If more women had the sort of forward-thinking stance that you do, there would be a lot more confident and satisfied people in this world. Just one quick word of warning: If you begin to develop feelings for this guy, check yo'self. In my experience, sugar daddies are typically polyamorous. Cheers!
/r/seduction21/09/10 08:55 PM
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Agreed. I would recommend a mid-size state school with a decent reputation in your field. It will be a completely different experience. Cheers!
/r/seduction18/09/10 08:53 PM
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This is absolutely correct. I've told this story in seddit, but it's relevant here again. Through middle school and high school, I was largely an AFC -- I got plenty of action, but it was on the sly, with nerdy girls that hung in my circles, and I certainly wasn't F-closing on any cheerleaders after the big game. In 1992, my parents dropped me off at college, where I knew no one. And therefore, no one knew me. I had this realization as I stood at the top of the stairs and watched my family drive…
/r/seduction17/09/10 02:04 PM
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Heh. Yeah, I was reaching there a bit. Someday...
/r/seduction17/09/10 01:40 PM
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Just being aware that you did hurt someone and not wanting to do it again is a big help. I totally understand. Cheers!
/r/seduction17/09/10 01:36 PM
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Well, let's see... I've been in this situation many times and it's actually worked out pretty well -- I'm still friendly with a majority of my former FWB's, but it's sorta like a male orgasm -- there's a lot of buildup, it feels great for both of you, you're working that edge, keeping it going as best you can, then there's an explosion, then you need some cooling off time before you can have any more interaction. The slower you take it, the longer it lasts. Over the course of my dating life, I'v…
/r/seduction16/09/10 10:49 PM
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HAHAHAHA!! Seriously.
/r/seduction16/09/10 10:29 PM
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Saratoga Springs
/r/seduction16/09/10 03:21 PM
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Yeah, totally. Furthermore, I love the hunt, but I'm only going to F-close if she's really into it. I'll get her all primed up, but she's pretty much got to ask/beg for it. It has to be what we both want and need at that moment. If I sense she's having second thoughts, I'm out. I don't even need your number, I'll see you around. FTR, this doesn't happen all that often, but when it does, I'll spend the night but not initiate sex -- a gentlemanly move that's usually good for a morning F-close, and…
/r/seduction15/09/10 10:23 PM
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Both yes and no. Very situational. It typically makes the inclusion of non-traditional items (restraints, blindfolds, toys, positions, exhibitionism, videocameras, etc) easier, but *shakes head* be very very careful. Edit: (a) I rarely aim for the F-close on the first night, and (b) I'm in my mid-30's and am much more likely to be taken advantage of by some hungry Cougar than the other way around.
/r/seduction15/09/10 07:52 PM
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Move on. You're in Uni -- you are, in all likelihood, in the most target-rich environment you will ever experience, and they're mostly all ready to go.
/r/seduction15/09/10 06:40 PM
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Seriously. Coudn't agree more.
/r/seduction14/09/10 02:58 PM
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Thank you for addressing this. I've become increasingly frustrated listening to some guys here describing HB9/10's. There just are not that many of them around for the average sedditor to be running into (and interacting with) them. Thanks.
/r/seduction14/09/10 02:54 PM
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Agree. Talk of sexual exploits rarely results in relationship building. Remember that there are distancers and followers. You ever been fishing? If you hit the fish with the worm when you're casting, you're going to scare it right off. You need to work that shit. The fish needs to know the worm is there and to see it wiggle every once in a while. Every fish is different, but it will eventually take the bait if you work it just right.
/r/seduction13/09/10 05:12 PM
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Welcome!
/r/seduction10/09/10 07:06 PM
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Is there going to be a second date? It sounds like you're looking more to develop a relationship here. If you're thinking "girlfriend" here, don't push anything. 35/M here -- so I may be operating on a more laid-back schedule here, but I almost never go with a kiss close on the first date. Also forget the hand holding thing on the first date. Second is almost a guarantee for the kiss close but I generally don't move into hand holding for a couple more dates. Just my thoughts. Remember, the more …
/r/seduction09/09/10 08:41 PM
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Cheers, man!!
/r/seduction09/09/10 02:11 PM
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Go easy. I'm a dude.
/r/seduction03/09/10 03:03 PM
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That's perfect. Just one thing to consider -- make sure he's into the clubbing scene before you invite him -- if he is, perfect. If he's not, he might say yes anyway because he's interested, but then be uncomfortable or awkward while he's there, and that could leave him with a bad feeling. Above all else, learn to recognize when someone is bored/awkward/etc. -- and call him on it by making a friendly jab with a suggestion for how to make it better. Imagine he goes to the club but doesn't feel li…
/r/seduction02/09/10 11:37 PM
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Hard to tell -- when the ball is in your court (he messaged you, it's your turn to message back) ask him what he's up to this weekend -- or maybe you have something going on that you could bring him to -- like "Hey, XY, I'm hitting my friends BBQ on Sunday -- you want to join me? They're always a lot of fun" Most men are powerless to a woman inviting them to an afternoon of cheap beer and hot dogs. Go for it!
/r/seduction02/09/10 08:40 PM
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Interesting distinction. This shall be the topic of conversation as I head to my local pub this evening.
/r/seduction25/08/10 11:52 PM
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(Not my original thoughts but certainly have found it to be true) To add to the original post, every "date" is an experience, and that experience isn't over until she tells her friends about it the next day. She needs a story to tell -- whether it's that the owner of the restaurant came over to say hi and you introduced her to him, or you snapped at the maître d’ for failing to open the door for her, or he does something nice for a little old lady. She needs to convey her experience to her frien…
/r/seduction25/08/10 08:28 PM
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Yep, I'll give you that. Keep up the good work!
/r/seduction09/08/10 09:31 PM
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I think that was pretty alpha, or she was not really an HB8. One way or the other, when someone does that to my beer, I just put my thumb over it and turn it into a garden hose of beer right back at them. If you do it uber-cool and with absolutely no intent to escalate a male dominance situation, he looks like a classless idiot and smells like beer the whole night.
/r/seduction09/08/10 08:53 PM
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Interesting. I have met two women from Germany in social settings and both of them were very forward.
/r/seduction04/08/10 04:41 PM
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Keeping it clean and letting her run the radio are two clear winners. Also keep napkins/paper towels, an umbrella, bottled water, and a stain stick in there. If she gets something on her dress while you're out, it will weigh on her mind throughout the rest of the night. If you can point to the glovebox and she finds everything she needs to fix it right there, you're a hero. Also, men typically have a much higher tolerance for fast/technical driving. Best to keep it chill with her in the car. Dri…
/r/seduction02/08/10 08:39 PM
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I like the opener except for the limbic system line -- it gets a bit heavy there. Just go straight to the follow-up. Honestly, you have to work your own game. Good luck!
/r/seduction02/08/10 08:23 PM
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Ignore them. It drives them into a frenzy. Protip: That being said, they're generally not worth the trouble, and when you end it, they'll relay the "story" to everyone within earshot and you are likely to deal with the "I'm pregnant" bullshit. Good luck.
/r/seduction20/07/10 10:08 PM
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Practice, practice, practice. The first hundred don't count.
/r/seduction16/07/10 03:58 PM
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Nice. As in, 'sudo make me a sandwich?'
/r/seduction16/07/10 02:07 PM
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Whenever he's talking to you, stare at a spot about 1/2" inch above the bridge of his nose, centered above his eye-line -- it makes men very uncomfortable. Great for cops, competition, and other douchenozzles. If he says anything about (doubt he will), just play dumb -- "are you staring at my forehead?" you say "no, I'm looking you in the eye." Just be TOTALLY FUCKING CHILL.
/r/seduction15/07/10 11:51 PM
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Dude. The first hundred approaches don't count. Now go practice 99 more times. Oh, and if you see her again, wave hello but pay no attention -- just do your thing. Make her wonder why you don't give a shit.
/r/seduction15/07/10 06:45 PM
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Even though she knew it was game, you still opened the set. Good for you -- I'd love the opportunity to open that sort of set. Don't sweat it, the first thousand don't count.
/r/seduction04/07/10 05:40 AM
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Brilliant. Thanks for posting!
/r/seduction02/07/10 03:48 PM
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You rock. I'm not an introvert, AFC, or new to PUA -- but it's worth my time to take a listen. Prost!
/r/seduction02/07/10 02:29 PM
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Excellent.
/r/seduction01/07/10 02:03 PM
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You have a very valid point, but I think it has a lot to do with delivery. I typically have very good results with the details as I described. As with everything, YMMV. Cheers!
/r/seduction30/06/10 01:56 PM
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AHA!! You've got it!! Just go into it without seeing them all as targets. When you're dressed appropriately, funny, interesting, and seemingly not interested in them, they instinctively will be more attracted to you to prove themselves. That's the whole key, at least for me. I never go into a place with the mindset that I'm going to close on the first night -- that way, I'm not pushing for it and things are just way smoother. I often don't even try to number close on the first meet -- I'll see t…
/r/seduction29/06/10 07:01 PM
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Aha! Your timing is perfect. You're going off to college -- which is a world where no one knows who you are. Just completely reinvent yourself. Read up hard core all summer on game, and just poof reinvent yourself. I did exactly that when I went off to college in '92, and I've been living the dream ever since. Protip: do you have any trouble talking to or approaching non-hot women, teachers, your friends' parents, etc.? I'll bet not. That's because you're not viewing them as potential targets. I…
/r/seduction24/06/10 09:38 PM
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Thanks. Always good to talk game.
/r/seduction23/06/10 02:02 PM
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Above all else, if you act like you want/need to get her in bed the first time you meet her, you are very likely to fail. Act like you've got women lining up at your door and they will. Patience, grasshopper, patience. To answer your question, I always go with the truth and generally give it a good edge -- lies erode your self-confidence, and avoidance is sleazy (like politicians). Chicks are expecting the obvious answer and if you don't give it to them, it means you have balls, unlike all the o…
/r/seduction23/06/10 01:47 AM
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I came here expecting something cheesy, but this is pretty nice. Well thought-out. I don't usually use a canned opener, but my approach is different, and I'm generally not looking to close on the same night anyhow -- I hit the same few lairs a couple times a week in a small city -- and don't want the well to run dry. The ladies know what's up and exactly what the game is. I like to have one on the grill, one in the boat, one on the line, and one checkin' the bait. That way when you drop a plate,…
/r/seduction15/06/10 10:15 PM
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DeliciousWolf, you have some great points. I've found that mixed sets are very fruitful, particularly if you're in the same spot regularly -- I like to use a "goto" line on one of the guys to break in ('did you go do to xyz university' or whatever), then introduce myself around the circle, and proceed to chat up the men for a few minutes with some wit and brevity. I leave before it gets stale, and then use that leverage when I see the target in the bar at a later date. I call it "leverage bankin…
/r/seduction09/06/10 10:35 PM
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