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ohkcthrow/r/TheRedPill20/11/15 09:25 PM
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Do you see yourself a Hero championing Social Justice for daring to brave the odds? No. I didn't invite myself over. And this place is where man gather, mostly still Angry. Do you think coming to "clean up" whatever "misrepresentation" of what you said will put you in a different light? Overtly you're here trying to justify more of yourself, covertly you're here just for attention. Isn't that every post on this sub? No post here is going to end false rape claims or extreme feminism. You could sa…
/r/TheRedPill21/11/15 02:07 AM
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But don't underestimate how much we NEED this space. It's not just a place with "some good advice" with "concerning motivations". It's our last bastion of sanity where we are allowed to talk about being men. That I totally understand. Glad you guys have this space!
/r/TheRedPill21/11/15 01:56 AM
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if you can't stand others taking it and shit on it, don't post. That's exactly what I'm doing through a response post that I know will be downvoted into oblivion :) Taken from another point of view, we don't need you to agree when we've got Field reports confirming most of what we learn here. It's attention seeking. Sure, but if these posts are as cherry picked as the one that I'm responding to, this sub can't be learning that much and the chamber must be getting echo-y. I can't read every singl…
/r/TheRedPill21/11/15 01:37 AM
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You only come to appreciate the beta side of him later on. Wait, who said that? Unless you mean he was alpha by asking if I wanted to get drinks tomorrow at 8, and then hooked me with the beta dorky humor when I met him, in which case sure. As for the rest, every one of my comments has agreed that there are good things to learn from TRP. And if I'll use this stay as confirmation bias, won't you? If we workout, it's because he's a trapped beta or so alpha that I didn't even realize. If we break u…
/r/TheRedPill21/11/15 01:25 AM
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To be fair, the derision is oozing from your comments to me. I think at least matching the standard of discourse.
/r/TheRedPill21/11/15 01:19 AM
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Hey, you linked to those definitions. You stop hamstering! ;)
/r/TheRedPill21/11/15 01:16 AM
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All I know is that if a guy excels at a hobby, but doesn't let it take over his life, it's almost always awesome. If you're a master lifter? Cool, you can lift me up. Just don't spend your life at the gym. If you're a master WoW player? Cool, I'm glad you've made friends across the country. Just don't spend your life gaming.
/r/TheRedPill21/11/15 01:15 AM
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Thanks, and thanks for the well worded replies!
/r/TheRedPill21/11/15 01:06 AM
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Where did I deride TRP as a lower life form? I'm asking honestly. In my original statement (made on another sub, by the way) I said TRP "had good tips on confidence and knowing your worth and "being manly". Which, I guess, aren't bad things, and that particular guide (if you search it up) isn't far from the advice given out on this sub (with added douchiness)." I've re-emphasized that point repeatedly. It's TRP-ers who've said "dont waste there valuable time here doing anything here but laughing…
/r/TheRedPill21/11/15 01:01 AM
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"Doesn't that totally support the idea that women want natural alphas, and are disgusted by betas learning to be alpha?" I said: "Is it possible that I wouldn't have liked him last year? Sure. But I like him now and don't want him to change his "beta" behavior in pursuit of the "alpha"." To mean, I'm not "disgusted" by it if learning TRP brought him to the guy he is. I'm concerned that he was brought to where he is for the wrong reasons.
/r/TheRedPill21/11/15 12:54 AM
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to face in hostility or defiance; oppose: The feuding factions confronted one another. to present for acknowledgment, contradiction, etc.; set face to face: They confronted him with evidence of his crime. to stand or come in front of; stand or meet facing: The two long-separated brothers confronted each other speechlessly. to be in one's way: the numerous obstacles that still confronted him. to bring together for examination or comparison. All but the first definition fit what I did: turn around…
/r/TheRedPill21/11/15 12:51 AM
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Not that pursuing women is sad - changing your life for the sake of attracting women is sad, and gives us a lot of power. I like marathons. I put aside money every month for trips and fees. It's not because I think it's attractive, it's because I like it. Shouldn't that be the real goal? And the comment you're replying to is a reply to another user, not the point of my post.
/r/TheRedPill21/11/15 12:47 AM
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Sort of an in-between. I didn't really ask, just playfully said, "I'm going to use your toes". He said, "Do you have remover? Okay, sure." But if you want to call it a comfort test, that's fine. The point is that a impenetrably stoic man would be pretty boring to be with, and the fact that he doesn't take himself too seriously is a plus. You can call that alpha or beta. I think it's a mixture, and that's what I'm arguing in my post - the harmony is attractive. Bullshit, you are here reading and …
/r/TheRedPill21/11/15 12:36 AM
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I see. In that case we're certainly each other's main relationship. It's hard to have a second relationship when you see each other every day! ;)
/r/TheRedPill21/11/15 12:22 AM
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"Ha-ha nothing was cherry picked. You came here an confirmed that you do like him for his alpha traits, that if his beta traits out weighed him alpha ones you would not be attracted to him, ie the 'extremes'" My post said: "I like that he's dorky and cries at nostalgic movies and gives me sweet compliments and asks me for advice and lets me test nail polish on him. That doesn't mean that I dislike his big social circle, how hard he works at school, his sense of humor, his passion for music, his …
/r/TheRedPill21/11/15 12:15 AM
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I do agree that there's rational people on this sub! And some good advice. The caricature of a video-gaming neckbeard is so opposite what is advised here, that it doesn't even make sense. I agree. But this sub perpetuates this idealized alpha male who is also a caricature that makes little sense. From reading the responses though, it seems this caricature arose through an overcompensation for the "neckbeard beta".
/r/TheRedPill21/11/15 12:06 AM
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This argument was based on evolution. Social welfare and the "rise of single mothers" has not been in existence long enough to influence evolution. Pure attraction has.
/r/TheRedPill21/11/15 12:04 AM
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If you read below, I've agreed that some guys have made good points and thanked them for sharing. If you think I've reinforced observations, you'll probably also think I reinforce observations by breaking up with my SO (because he's too beta), or by staying with him (successful alpha!). If you're willing to accept confirmation bias, there's not much I can do on that aspect. I was brought here to explain my side of a story that, from the outset, was based on fake quotes and cherry picking. Now I'…
/r/TheRedPill20/11/15 11:55 PM
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But they are important for families. And these children can't survive if their fathers abandon their apparently useless and incompetent mothers. So something made these guys stick around, and if this is an evolution argument it wasn't alimony.
/r/TheRedPill20/11/15 11:45 PM
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Unsurprisingly the same pattern we observe in chimpanzees or baboons.... and men? Humans share 98% of their genes with chimpanzees. That 2% difference makes up a giant amount. If every girl differs by 5%, that's a huge selection of wants. I do agree that there's probably a normal distribution of attractiveness. I don't think that mode is at the end of the "beta-alpha" spectrum.
/r/TheRedPill20/11/15 11:44 PM
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But they are important for families. And these children can't survive if their fathers abandon their apparently useless and incompetent mothers. So something made these guys stick around, and if this is an evolution argument it wasn't alimony.
/r/TheRedPill20/11/15 11:41 PM
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I'm sorry if my replies come off bristle-y, they aren't meant to. And you're right, I do know where I stand with my guy :)
/r/TheRedPill20/11/15 11:39 PM
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It stands for "significant other". You can call me a plate if you want to, or whatever terminology you want to use to describe someone you haven't officially termed your "girlfriend" but are serious about. Or I can send you a message when we make it official!
/r/TheRedPill20/11/15 11:35 PM
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If the shallow end of "AWALT" says women should make friends, get healthy, and improve their self-confidence than I'm glad it exists! I know it stands for "all women are like this", I just haven't read enough posts to see it in action.
/r/TheRedPill20/11/15 11:32 PM
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If that's the case, why haven't men decided if blonde or brunettes are more attractive, or if curvy hourglasses or skinny fit girls are more attractive, if high powered careers or impeccable homemaking skills are more attractive - and then selectively bred the other option out?
/r/TheRedPill20/11/15 11:25 PM
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why it's going to take more than one person's anecdote to change our minds. I understand that. But since my one person anecdote was used to support the ideas on this sub through a highly rated post, I figure I should explain the full story and not the cherry-picked narrative. Because ultimately this sub works on confirmation bias. If my SO and I work out, it's because he successfully and covertly employed alpha principles. If we don't work out, it's because either I'm a bitch, he's too beta, or …
/r/TheRedPill20/11/15 11:23 PM
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I see. Thanks for the correction.
/r/TheRedPill20/11/15 11:16 PM
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Yes. And my DNA is different from the next girl's. We don't all want the same version of "being manlyTM ".
/r/TheRedPill20/11/15 11:11 PM
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He's not walking around with it on, the bottle of remover was right there :)
/r/TheRedPill20/11/15 11:10 PM
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I think it was just the idea that I didn't know he read the red pill, but because he does read the red pill suddenly all of his success must have come from reading theory posts here... which seems like confirmation bias, but oh well. As for the relationship thing, there's not a tangible difference between "exclusive dating" and "couple" for us - but it does feel like there's an intangible, emotional difference. I think it's headed that way, and it'll probably happen over the holidays. It just di…
/r/TheRedPill20/11/15 11:08 PM
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Again - the extreme isn't attractive. At either end. This TRP "Manly" guy, who at some point someone told me was named "Chad" or something, who is super ripped and calculates every single interaction he has with a girl and gave up his hobbies because an interent checklist told him to, isn't attractive either. It also sounds exhausting for Chad. Yeah, Chad still has attractive qualities. But I'm not going to put up with Chad for very long if he thinks I'm incapable of making a decision, so I hope…
/r/TheRedPill20/11/15 11:01 PM
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So you're telling me, that all of womankind sat down at a table and made up the "standards of attractiveness" check list? Can I get a copy? Or was it mankind who made that list up, since my opinion doesn't matter?
/r/TheRedPill20/11/15 10:56 PM
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He's improving himself to meet and attract a girl. Isn't that sad though? Wouldn't true self reliance be improving yourself for the sake of taking advantage of life, and being happy with the extra girls and friends that happen because of it? As for the teasing, it was really just an example. If you're not good at teasing, you can make up for it in other ways. The singular "this is how to be manly" idea bothers me, like there's a checklist. Also, he doesn't even go to the gym, so obviously he's n…
/r/TheRedPill20/11/15 10:54 PM
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Your boyfriend has to shoot for being a stud player and a boss ballin' ass motherfucker. Because if he shoots for that, when he falls short, he'll be a slightly above average guy with a self-confidence, interesting hobbies, a knowledge of how to flirt with women, but still plenty of beta traits that prevent him from actually being a player. That was a good explanation! If this was more apparent in posts here, I'd have no problem with it. I don't like that being "beta" is so villainized, but I de…
/r/TheRedPill20/11/15 10:48 PM
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I never asked my SO to stop reading the red pill. I posted to a sub I like to get some redditor infused advice (my irl friends wouldn't know what red pill is!). I was right. The sub I chose generally told me that as long as I feel I'm being treated well, I should stick it out. The shallow end of red pill is not poison. Getting healthy, getting friends, and improving self-confidence are all good things. Everyone's welcome to believe what they want, but they aren't free from consequences. If he be…
/r/TheRedPill20/11/15 10:38 PM
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I apologize for intruding on your echo chamber. Please let me know if my responses devolve into poorly worded emotional messes. shes not here to have her mind changed, she wants attention and drama, and a reason to tell herself she is right. I'm actually here because someone linked a post that I made in a different subreddit, which resulted in the start of a brigade. I came here in response. I didn't invite myself over.
/r/TheRedPill20/11/15 10:28 PM
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Like I said in the post: Yeah, I probably wouldn't like a guy at either extreme. Not liking the worst possible version does not mean that the best version is at the exact opposite. There are good traits in that 140 lb soaking wet MLP guy. If he's living at home because his mom is sick or he's working on his expensive master's, he might be a catch. If a jacked guy with his own place spends all his free time at the gym or working overtime to pay the bills, he's not living life to its fullest eithe…
/r/TheRedPill20/11/15 10:24 PM
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There's good advice here. And there absolutely are many good people here! I've received comments and PMs from them. They didn't use condescension to enforce their points. But yes, like I said: If having both alpha and beta traits makes you a red piller, then I'm attracted to red pillers - no one else exists.
/r/TheRedPill20/11/15 10:13 PM
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Your final point first: No doubt you do, but our rule of thumb is- watch what they do, not what they say. So, if what I do is like him, date him exclusively, hang out with him and his friends, etc. - what then? Thought policing, this is the feminine imperative at it's finest. She wants to control the thought and motive behind actions, even if the results were the same. It's not good to be attractive and free thinking. You can buy jeans, or you can steal them. Result's the same. I'd rather date t…
/r/TheRedPill20/11/15 09:59 PM
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I don't know if they do, but the mods said I could create a response post if I want to. And yeah, we're using "exclusive" as a placeholder. For us there isn't a tangible difference to "exclusively dating" and "boyfriend" (and his housemates do call me his girlfriend), but I feel a non-tangible, emotional step.
/r/TheRedPill20/11/15 08:57 PM
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People don't realize the unintentional outcomes poor phrasing can have. People should be more aware of what they say. I agree with that! Had I known it would be reposted for analysis on another sub, I would have chosen my words more carefully.
/r/TheRedPill20/11/15 06:19 PM
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Make a decision for yourself without the input of strangers and decide what you want. At the end of the day you'll be the one living with the decision, I understand its hard since women generally operate on groupthink mentality. But then, what's the point of this subreddit and asktrp? Isn't it entirely men seeking the input of strangers on their lives? I know I have to make the ultimate decision, but it's nice getting feedback from others in case you're too wrapped up to look at things objective…
/r/TheRedPill20/11/15 05:43 PM
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Sorry, I shouldn't go to OKC because they are biased, but I definitely should go to TRP because they won't be biased? I did say that if TRP got him to where he is, that's great. If TRP got him to set up a great profile and ask me out, that's awesome. But I can't say that "he made a great profile!" is high up on the things I like about him. After a few dates, his personality (which does include crying at Pixar movies!) hooked me and I don't want that to change.
/r/TheRedPill20/11/15 05:26 PM
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Like I said elsewhere, I like his current ratio of beta-alpha or whatever you want to call it. I don't want a "natural alpha", I want his current personality and don't want him to change it. Is it possible that I wouldn't have liked him last year? Sure. But I like him now and don't want him to change his "beta" behavior in pursuit of the "alpha".
/r/TheRedPill20/11/15 05:14 PM
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I bet you wouldn't mind your girlfriend (or plate, or whatever) making you a sandwich, but you'd probably like it if she cooked you a five star dinner from your favorite cuisine. If he never goes to the gym in his life, I won't care. If he decided he wanted to start going with me, I'd be thrilled because that's another hobby we'd share. I'd be equally thrilled if he got into photography - I just mentioned the gym because I know TRP encourages it.
/r/TheRedPill20/11/15 05:12 PM
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I used it as a synonym for "ask". I agree the connotation might have made it poor word choice.
/r/TheRedPill20/11/15 05:05 PM
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As mentioned in the post, we're exclusive and see each other every day. His housemates refer to me as his girlfriend - we just don't because it's only been 2.5 months.
/r/TheRedPill20/11/15 05:02 PM
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We've been seeing each other everyday for about two months (as mentioned in the post). It'd be pretty hard for him to have another plate when I come over all the time and hang out with his housemates. We're exclusive, just not using the label because it's been... 2.5 months.
/r/TheRedPill20/11/15 04:49 PM
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Hello, poster here! I'm sure I'll be downvoted immediately, but here's the kicker: contains both alpha and beta traits That's true of every person in the world. That ratio is different in every person in the world. TRP aims to change that ratio toward the alpha. I happen to really like the ratio as it is in my boyfriend. I like that he managed to match with me and ask me out. I like that he cries at Inside Out (in front of me, by the way). I like that he's hardworking at school. I would hate it …
/r/TheRedPill20/11/15 04:22 PM
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