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The dual mating strategy is so self centered, no wonder incels exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 05:43 PM
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But not caring about incels shows the dynamics of sexual behavior and how lust is an inherently selfish feeling. Yes perhaps pity is not the purpose here, but the idea of men not getting laid because of X Y Z reasons is integral to TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 05:40 PM
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concept of objectifying women as sexual chattel. Im not objectifying women. This concept would be applied for anyone. If people are having too much sex, they need to start having less sex and allow people who are suffering without having sex to have sex. Greed doesn't belong in modern society.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 07:02 AM
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Nonsense. Feminists already don't like men who objectify women and use them as prostitutes. Many Americans don't like lavishly rich people showing off their wealth. Just like Bernie Sanders used the economic drag many Americans feel to gain popularity, i could use concepts like this with the SMP to gain appeal for sexual communism if I were to one day run for public office.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 06:05 AM
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Not a mod, you just never seem to be aware of the rules in this sub. Literally every time you respond it's a personal attack or responding to a question for rp.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 02:30 AM
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That's not a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 01:39 AM
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Stop responding to questions that aren't for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 12:22 AM
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insecure and anxious women are easier to control and manipulate to have sex with, so why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 12:08 AM
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Why do you entitled to sleep with someone your attracted to?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 11:58 PM
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I take it? If this is the case, why not just ignore such douches? Because I know he exists and it bothers me. In my country where I am from(China), someone like him would be executed for drug use.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 05:48 PM
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If he still had he's drug-groupies but lived on a remote island with no Internet service to upload pics, would you still be as pissed off? No, i would be much less pissed off.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 05:38 PM
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find another closeted incel with one, and be happy together. Seriously, what is with this encouraging incels to go gay? You know what, if girls at parties don't want to get raped they should just have sex with girls, if they can't handle a dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 06:14 AM
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If your saying a penis is hurtful and gross, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 05:28 AM
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I don't believe how you can't see the sexism in choosing a woman over an unattractive man for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 03:52 AM
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It's no different than saying you would rather pick a woman than a man to go with you in a life raft from a sinking ship. AWALT.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 03:19 AM
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About making up a lie that obama is ordering illegals into the US to illegally vote for Hillary? Yes thats non sequitur.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 03:18 AM
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I would probably rather sleep with a women than a guy I'm not attracted to. That's blatant sexism. Your literally admitting men are inferior to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 02:28 AM
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Well there are no stats available for this. Rape culture is based around girls who get too drunk at frat parties and end up in bed with some guy that isn't alpha or they aren't as attracted to enough. You can't collect statistics on these type of incidents because people usually don't remember them and most won't consider it rape because they consented initially.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 02:26 AM
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On Thursday, Mr. Trump also asserted, without offering evidence, that the Obama administration was allowing illegal immigrants to enter the country to vote in November, another example of how he claimed the election was being rigged. “They’re letting people pour into the country so they can go and vote,” Mr. Trump said at a meeting in New York with the National Border Patrol Council, the union of border patrol agents. There has been no evidence that the administration is delaying deportations of…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 02:18 AM
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What are you talking about? men are tall, big and strong. Women have big butts and boobs if they are lucky.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 01:11 AM
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Americans truly are hilarious
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 01:04 AM
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The US is basically if Trump says something it must be true, and if you don't agree with him people will violently attack you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 12:10 AM
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Women wouldn't have jobs if no laws forced men to hire women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 12:05 AM
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Why spend time hating people who don't give two fucks about you? I don't, i'm a busy Silicon Valley software engineer. I just speak my opinions. This is a theoretical question. Furthermore most Americans are tired of rich people getting richer. So my perspective is not out of the norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 10:57 PM
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Trying to attack users here is a poor debate tactic, FYI
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 10:41 PM
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Yes he dos, he pays for them to be in his photoshoots and pays them for sex with drugs and cash. He doesn't own them but he dosn't have to be having that much sex and crazy photoshoots with them. Why should a rich douche with no college degree be allowed to horde and waste money on sex like that? In my world he would be rotting in jail and starving while incels can fuck women just like normal people.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 10:27 PM
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oh my goodness. how can you not like Bilzerian and the naked models that accompany him? Why should he get all those women to himself? Who is he to declare that? He should be sharing those women with incels who are suffering.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 10:08 PM
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In my ideal society, people would live under the concept of sexual communism. This means if a man or woman is having too much sex, they have those opportunities taken away from them, and if they have too little sex, they are granted government funded prostitutes. For example, I despise Dan Bilzerian and other rich gym bro douche bags. I would have government agents throw him in jail and distribute his cash to incels who are suffering from their situation. No man should have that many women for h…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 09:56 PM
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??? My last several threads were about incels and you didn't remove them? How are incels not relevant to PPD?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 06:08 PM
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Because as we all know there's never any such thing as a miscarriage of justice. It's hysterical to assume that the vast majority of prison inmates are victims of miscarriage of justice.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 05:28 PM
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Give people a scapegoat and the backing of authority and they will do horrible fucking things. POLICE: "Excuse me why did you kill this person?" Civilian:"He used drugs." POLICE:"Good job, free to go now."
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 06:06 AM
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Behold, the power of pussy. God damn I hope we can CRISPR the thirst out of male genes in the near future. It'd probably doom humanity tho. Do you believe a handful of scientists are presentative of all women?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 06:04 AM
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In my experience, sex is the easiest part of a relationship. Fallacy. There are many more sexless marriages then sex filled marriages with personality problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 06:01 AM
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Are you talking about yourself? It's more like 50%.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 05:59 AM
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I don't think that's a similar comparison. Fat is a body type. A lot of guys are into thick girls, like Kim kardashian for example. While some like chubby girls. Being a criminal is on a whole other level.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 12:50 AM
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So, it appears quite obvious that his female admirers are attracted to him because he mercilessly and ruthlessly gunned down 70+ teenagers, rather than in spite of his actions. Yea, i man seriously. BPers always claim women are attracted to assholes because they were nice at first. If that's the case why aren't women going for the nice guys to begin with?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 09:38 PM
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If he can convince her that he's innocent, she will probably not consider it a dealbreaker. If a woman believes prisoner more than a judge and a jury she is mentally ill. This sounds just like Donald Trump. Don't trust the liberal bias media, they don't want you to know the truth! I have never assaulted women, never!!!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 09:36 PM
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Because attraction isn't about logic. The only straight, to the point answer here.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 09:30 PM
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Because he may not have been in jail when they started dating? Did that seriously not cross your mind? You didn't read the links that i posted. The video shows a correctional officer saying lots of women meet inmates while they are in prison via being a penpal. A couple were introduced to the inmates by the inmate's mother.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 09:30 PM
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JFK signed bills into law that benefitted women's rights. This is a red herring. I am focused on the idea of men in prison getting sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 08:12 PM
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But again, some of the sources I referenced refer to max security prison inmates, where the majority are murderers or gang members.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 08:10 PM
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Why don't women want to fix incels problems?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 08:08 PM
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How could a woman not know a man is a criminal if she visits him in prison? This is some serious hamstering going on here.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 08:07 PM
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should have the right to do have been made into crimes. Like what? Smoke weed? Buddy, look at my links. Violent criminals, ones that have stabbed, shot, murdered, all kinds of horrific things get sex while hard wroking nerds don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 06:13 PM
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In an ideal world, yes. In reality, the phrase "wrongly convicted" exists for a reason. First, that's about guilt, not doing something "wrong". The people who are wrongfully convicted were still in the wrong place and at the wrong time. Second, trying to disprove a particular group of woman's lust for prison men by saying "not everyone in prison has done something wrong" is a fallacy because it alleges that the population of wrongfully convicted inmates is so large it explains this attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 05:53 PM
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Why are you asking us? No I want to see what BPers think. You guys say women are repulsed by violent aggressive, misogynistic men. So why do these women love murderers and criminals?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 05:50 PM
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Because not everyone who's in prison has done something wrong. This is a logical fallacy. People go to prison because they committed a crime. Because you were committed to them before they went into prison Many inmates meet new girlfriends via pen pal while in prison. Read my post before commenting.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 05:42 PM
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reposted with appropriate title.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 05:27 PM
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I think your not getting what success means here. Yes, Donald worked to make himself successful. But from my point of view, he was already extremely rich from birth. He had enough money to live a wonderful live without doing that much at all. He is already winning. Same with actors in hollywood. They are already born with good looks and can memorize lines, so they are already on the path to fame and fortune. They don't want to put in the long hours, sacrifice a piece of themselves, and risk fail…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 07:02 AM
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We can talk all about my theories to help incels :)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 07:06 PM
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How is it leading though? I'm providing evidence for it. Can you take out the word most ?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 07:05 PM
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Yes I would. The reason being is because these stories involve a girl who is at least somewhat attractive yet has some weird personality. Lots of women here have said they once experienced complete sexless lives but changed once they approached men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 06:45 PM
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Im not gay.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 05:45 PM
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links or go home. ^^^^^
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 05:44 PM
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Yes. No one else said yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 05:43 PM
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If men get rejected for jobs, then men aren't getting job purely because of their gender. How hard is that to understand? If men were getting jobs because of their gender, they would hire any man around. links or go home.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 05:36 PM
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AKA 90% of the people who've ever asked me for money. Why are you judging what people do with their time?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 05:22 PM
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Nope. She doesn't need it. There are thousands of support organizations that give women free stuff. Let me list a few for you: Live your Dream Small charities that every woman needs to know Hundreds of charities and nonprofits for women
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 05:21 PM
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Why would you want to extort money out of an incel? That's evil.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 05:15 PM
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Finally a good answer on this post.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 05:13 PM
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What about when it has been proven OVER and OVER again that tons of men are getting jobs just because of their gender? Bullshit. That's a psychopathic leftist lie. Men enroll much more in CS degrees and are more qualified than women for tech jobs. Lots of women hate tech and coding. This example is seen across the industry. If your going to make outrageous claims link please. I wouldn't believe anything you say.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 05:12 PM
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Incels incorrectly think that successful people are showered with gifts, money, sex, and affection just because they showed up. Bullshit. Look at IG models, kim kardashian, actors, movie stars, they didn't work for nothing. They had everything handed them on a silver platter. Look at Trump! Born rich. Your being totally oblivious here. Successful people work HARD. They fail. They try new strategies, and they refuse to quit because they believe in themselves. This is true for some people, like te…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 05:11 PM
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If a gay guy can get fucked he is not an incel. This is some serious hamstering your doing there.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 07:55 AM
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Everyone gets shamed for things. That's the real world, not a college campus.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 07:21 AM
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Nope, sexual orientation has nothing to do with attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 07:20 AM
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Reported for personal attack. Don't call me a kid, im a silicon valley software engineer.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 06:54 AM
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Gay incels do not exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 06:53 AM
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I think thats the bias media playing a part in that. Don't trust everything you hear.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 06:45 AM
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Yes but he won't live a happy life, that I can guarantee you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 06:45 AM
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http://www.gayexplained.com/promiscuous/
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 06:43 AM
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Do you make stuff up as you type? http://www.gayexplained.com/promiscuous/ Why are gay men so promiscuous? Because we are Men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 06:43 AM
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Superiority complex because she doesn't want to have sex with someone she isn't attracted to? No, she made a comment elsewhere on this post claiming cancer patients are entitled for asking for blood to be donated so they can get a blood transfusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 06:41 AM
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Did you read the part I quoted her on? "Natural moment"
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 06:39 AM
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But people do a lot of things they don't want to for a good cause, like donating blood or community service. Why is sex any different?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 06:38 AM
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We can't just take them off and throw it at you to use for fun. Just go buy a fleshlight and be happy for a moment. That's complete bullshit. Prostitutes allow all kinds of men to use their vagina all they want for pay. It's a fallacy women tell themselves that they can't have sex with unattractive men. They absolutely can but selfishly choose not to.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 06:36 AM
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I'm not going to be turned on by some incel begging me for sex out of pity Why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 06:35 AM
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And risk getting slut shamed? No thanks. What does slut shamed mean here? Feminists probably define it as looking at a girls ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 06:34 AM
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Straw man. Gay incels do not exist. Gay men are so promiscuous its not even funny.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 06:25 AM
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are more important than I never claimed one was more important than the other. You claimed your self rewards are more important than saving a cancer patients life. That's worse than AFBB, the CC, and basically everything TRP says women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 06:24 AM
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Quit acting like women fucking dudes they have zero attraction to is so easy for us. Jesus christ have you ever been to the gynecologist? You let him stick his hands up there. Why not incels?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 06:23 AM
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Well that's a legitimate concern, Ill have to theorize a solution to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 06:12 AM
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think visiting a prostitute is beneath them or that it doesn't really count. Yea this is something I think incels are wrong for thinking. As a whole if you have no options to your knowledge for sex, paying to get some experience is a good thing. It's what I did.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 06:11 AM
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But your vagina is made for a penis. If you wanted to you could agree to sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 06:07 AM
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But that's a strawman. Dick is cheap. Men are almost never in a possession like that. It doesn't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 06:06 AM
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My primary concern would be the guy thinking we're now an item and wanting sex multiple times. That would be a problem. Atlas suggested in another comment though that paying a prostitute for the incel would work for this. I am inclined to agree as that way it takes off all the stigma of paying for sex and can allow multiple sex visits.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 06:05 AM
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But if an incel is heterosexual he won't consent to gay sex, he only want's to have sex with a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 05:59 AM
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I just realized your a trump supporter so its just an echo chamber from this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 05:59 AM
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He's entitled if he DEMANDS I give him blood, marrow or organs yes. Well he can't demand it from specific people since you probably aren't a match for that patient. But by law you have to give medical care to patients. So I don't see your point here. Seems you think women are superior to cancer patients. Incels are more mentally ill and disgusting than I once thought these days. Calling cancer patients entitled is just like Donald Trump telling terminally ill patients to vote for him. Read your …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 05:57 AM
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Well they have lubricant you can buy in the store, and I heard about some female viagra they are coming out with soon.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 05:54 AM
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Why do you bring his mother into this? Do you not care if somone just lost a parent? That's heartless.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 05:53 AM
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Well this would be better than having sex yourself as charity as it supports even more incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 05:52 AM
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It allows them to have sex and cure their insecurities about being isolated from the world of sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 05:51 AM
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Second, yes, yes it is entitled to just expect other people to just GIVE YOU a part of their bodies for any reason and for absolutely zero benefit to themselves. Really? So a sick cancer patient who is in need of a blood transfusion after getting chemo is entitled? Women are worse than I once thought these days. Pitiful.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 05:50 AM
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But why? Why would I want to do this? What does being and kind and generous get me? Nothing, and it doesn't need to. Feminists expect men to be kind and generous to women and stand up for their rights. It doesn't get men shit nothing. So you shouldn't have an issue doing things with no personal benefit. That's life.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 05:49 AM
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It depends on how it happened, if it was a natural moment like spending time together and it leads to sex, No it would be planned out like an appointment. Incels can't feel special moments, which is why they are incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 05:48 AM
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I mean, I think every has done one of those two things at some point. Most highschools require some form of community serivce.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 05:47 AM
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Plenty of sexless dudes would be down for some guy-guy anal or BJs... Do you have any proof of that?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 05:46 AM
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If it was a ladyboy in thailand yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 05:45 AM
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Time and money =/= my vagina. Why would I needlessly add to my n-count? It is about superiority. Why do you believe your vagina is more holy than time or money? What makes it so precious you can't let an incel use it to help him improve this life and over all well being?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 05:45 AM
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Now your just straw manning and using other logical fallacies. All gay men can have sex, there are no gay incels. Stop thinking they exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 05:44 AM
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he was super depressed and didn't care who he had sex with so long as it was a man, would you have sex with him out of the goodness of your heart? It would depend, Im not entirely opposed to it though. Given it's a on time deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 05:42 AM
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Exactly! I don't get why women can actually feel friendly and kind to people when they don't have sex with men who need it. They just think smiling at guys and saying hello is actually kind.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 05:41 AM
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More importantly, why would I allow myself to be essentially pumped and dumped by a low SMV male? Because you want to act kind and generous to those in need?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 05:40 AM
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Pretty sure it's more selfish and entitled to expect women to fuck you out of pity. Is it selfish and entitled for sick people to expect people to donate blood or bone marrow out of pity?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 05:40 AM
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No it's not. You can consent to sex with someone your not attracted to. Prostitutes are a great example of this. EDIT: You can also not consent to sex with someone you find attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 05:39 AM
0

What's your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 05:38 AM
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You made a man who is down in the dumps have a higher self-esteem. Your saved someone from misery who was desperately in need of help.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 05:37 AM
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What makes you think it would be consensual between me and a dude I am NOT attracted to. Take one for the team, bro, I don't want to. Consent means to agree. If you agree to have sex with him, your consenting. Attraction has nothing to do with it. Prostitutes have sex with men they are not attracted to. Go for it. Gay incels don't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 05:36 AM
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ok :)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 05:35 AM
1

If you had a wife or gf, would you encourage her to let your incel friends have sex with her? No because they are in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 05:34 AM
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Because you think he wouldn't want to have sex with someone who didn't genuinely find him attractive? No because there is more roleplay and sub/dom stuff in gay sex, that you need to be gay in order to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 05:34 AM
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Why don't you explain? This is a discussion thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 05:16 AM
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it sounds like you're way more concerned about these men than anyone else here. It sounds like your too self-absorbed to care about incels. it's not like donating blood at all, and it would be painful and unpleasant in many ways. Donating blood is painful and unpleasant.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 05:16 AM
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Would you have sex with a gay male incel to help him feel better? I don't believe gay incels exist, given the vast promiscuity of gay men. If one did exist he would probably want a gay man anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 05:15 AM
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That would be non-consensual sex since they are not gay.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 05:14 AM
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So your basically a selfish and entitled person then, which is why you don't want to do either of these things.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 05:14 AM
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Hey, why don't YOU give him a blow job? It would be non-consensual though, since incels are attracted to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 05:13 AM
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I'd pay for a prostitute for him, why do I have to actually do it? Well that's actually something I didn't think of before. Someone else paying a prostitute for you takes off all the guilt and money stigma associated with it. In that case doing that would work.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 05:12 AM
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This is exactly it. No woman wants to be used as a human fleshlight, least of all by a guy she's not even remotely attracted to. How humiliating. But why though? What's so special about women they can't do this for a good cause? People donate blood even though it hurts.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 05:11 AM
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No I am not. Your avoiding the question I see. As expected.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 05:10 AM
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Im asking a legitimate question and getting answers. Don't personal attack me.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 05:09 AM
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This is interesting. So the clingy puts you off here. That's definitely a perspective I can agree with.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 05:08 AM
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Will my incel friend pay my rent for me when I'm out of money or buy me shoes when I'm not having sex with him out of charity? Yea I think thats fine. I mean the amount won't be high but I would also consider a tax deduction for such acts if it were done through a non-profit.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 05:07 AM
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Volunteer your ass then. Or your mouth. Ok, but do you think your too good to volunteer for giving sex to men in need? I mean now your sounding selfish.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 05:05 AM
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But what's wrong with having sex with someone your aren't attracted to if it's for a good cause? It's like donating blood. You sacrifice some pain and your blood for someone in need. But sex dosn't hurt like needles do.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 05:04 AM
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Having a man you are not attracted or want inside you is one of the worst feelings. But so is a needle for donating blood. I mean why are women so picky with their vagina? A dick doesn't hurt like a needle does.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 05:03 AM
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Why would I have sex with someone I wasn't attracted to for free? Well I don't know you personally, but it's like someone donating blood or bone marrow, or someone donating to charity. You give some of your time, money, or bodily resources to help people in need.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 05:02 AM
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It's a ridiculous question. It's no different than people donating blood or bone marrow, or people donating their money. It's all about being kind and gracious and helping people in need. Sex doesn't hurt and doesn't cost you anything, so it should be easier to donate than any of the above mentioned.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 05:01 AM
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I'm not sexually attracted to nor am I running a pussy charity. Do you think your superior to incels? Why don't you want to contribute to a good cause? Surely you have volunteered your time or money for some charity in your lifetime before.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 05:00 AM
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Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 04:58 AM
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This is what incels are hoping for If poor people use charities to help pay for groceries , water and other goods, why can't incels have a charity for pussy? I mean why does nobody want to be kind to incels? I don't get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 04:58 AM
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Can you explain why? that's part of the question. Although it's probably quite selfish.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 04:57 AM
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If being against giving women jobs purely because of their gender means hating women, yes I hate women. I don't stand for giving people handouts.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 03:46 AM
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Oh really? If that's the case why the fuck do we have to worry about gender ratios in tech jobs? Why do we have to give women free jobs and salaries if we don't want to give it to them?? Why do I have to pay taxes to a government that gives women welfare money for popping out babies if I don't want women like that to be supported ??
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 03:23 AM
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Who said they are reluctant to give it up?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 03:21 AM
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So a man can only ask for sex once in his life and if he's turned down he becomes a beggar?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 02:55 AM
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You don't know what begging means. This is one of the ways BPers warp their view of things. Tell me, does any time someone ask for something count as begging ?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 02:53 AM
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That and it will be a relationship motivated by her needs, it will be slanted towards her benefit, cause that's the main reason he is even spending time with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 02:06 AM
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Where do u get the idea this is about begging ?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 01:50 AM
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Where is begging mentioned in the OP????
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 01:42 AM
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Did you read the question?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 01:40 AM
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But those people weren't innocent. They were selfish Greek life people who partied and wasted tons of resources. They didn't care about anyone but themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 01:35 AM
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Are you saying for the party girls obsessed with gym douche bags? or incels?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/16 07:00 AM
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Dude, there have been mainstream media articles about how shallow it is out since the 80s. Link me an article that says women are selfish and entitled for going after muscular bad boys.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/16 06:59 AM
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I disagree because social capital is a misleading term. but by and large, incels have few friends and are isolated. This is where people confuse incels with forever alones. Incels aren't really isolated, they just can't find sex. They usually have some friends, and have careers to tend to. The point is they don't have the right social capital. With me, I was a computer science major whom had nearly all nerdy friends and only participated in nerdy clubs, and competed in hackathons and did researc…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/16 06:58 AM
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A red herring for what? What am I trying to distract? Pointing out that ER had some shallow features is like Donald Trump pointing out the women who falsely accused Bill Clinton of rape. Whether or not ER was shallow has nothing to do with the shallowness of the party/hookup culture. His manifesto was not about that. Elliot did not write anything about how frats destroyed normal courting process. He was angry that everyone was having sex but him. Answer my question. Did you read his manifesto? Y…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/16 06:54 AM
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He is the king of shallow! He literally believed that his expensive brand name sunglasses will make women want to have sex with him without even needing to say hi to them first. That's a red herring. The raw, primal nature of the hook up culture prompted by frats has erased the normal courting process of dating. It makes it into a fuckfest for horny people, which enables narcissism and selfish behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/16 05:12 AM
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Again, another story people tell themselves. I tried close to a hundred times asking a girl out while I was a virgin/incel. I failed every single time. Now, the question is why? I believe I focused too much on hot party/sorority girls and not enough nerdy/more toned down looking girls. Party girls are extreme snobs about guys and only get with the muscular frat bros or athletes.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/16 03:11 AM
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He exposed the shallow nature of the hookup culture
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/16 09:46 PM
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A WHOLE WEEK OF JUST INCEL POSTS???? Now that's my kind of sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/16 06:51 PM
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Most chapters have a minimum GPA requirement of a 2.5 or higher for initial membership as well as continuing active membership. Typically the average GPA for new members, as well as active members, exceeds the all-campus undergraduate average. That's a self-reported lie. From the UCSB honors website: Undergraduate Honors at Graduation Fall 2015-Summer 2016 College of Engineering College of Creative Studies College of Letters & Science Top 2.5% Highest Honors 3.91 GPA and above 3.87 GPA and above…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/16 06:27 PM
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He made things a hell of a lot worse for incels, not better. Do you think he died for a good cause? Or would he been better off pursuing non-violent forms of advocacy for incels?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/16 04:50 PM
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I read the entire 141-page book. Atlas is right, Elliot never approached a girl, but expected to be approached. Not only did he not approach, but he didn't even interact with girls except a friend from his childhood. I mean not so much as a "Hi". Do you honestly think the liberal media doesn't edit his writing to make sure women hold no responsibility for contributing to his meltdown?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/16 04:49 PM
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I read the whole thing. He never asked a girl out, ever. Thats the media altering his words. The media shifts stories around to make them more believable and interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/16 04:47 PM
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Fraternities and sports teams typically have a higher avg GPA and graduation rate than the rest of the school. That's complete bullshit: CNN analysis: Some college athletes play like adults, read like 5th-graders I knew a few geniuses that managed to do well despite being in the fraternity, but out the 40 active members, probably just a handful got a GPA over 3.0. One guy had a communication major. I remember one season our best pledge got a 2.3 GPA, while the other 13 or so got around a 1.x. On…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/16 04:45 PM
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Please. Get help now. Talk to a mental health professional. Personal attacks are against the rules here.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/16 04:37 PM
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People still have no clue how many incels there are out there because incidents of incels actually going ER are fairly rare. it's probably a lot of guys since men usually lie about not being virgins due to social pressures.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/16 06:10 AM
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Er was not "denied" sex, er never tried Are you smoking something? He was denied sex thousands of times. In July 2011, Rodger followed a couple he was jealous of out of a Starbucks in Goleta and threw coffee on them.[16]:p.87 In a later incident, he splashed his latte on two girls sitting at a bus stop in Isla Vista for not paying attention to him.[16]:p.100 In July 2012, Rodger purchased a Super Soaker, filled it with orange juice, and used it to spray a group playing kickball at Girsh Park.[16…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/16 05:59 AM
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Places like sluthate worship him as bringing righteous justice on degenerate whores What's sluthate? Sounds interesting. But how do u think ER effected societies perception of incels?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/16 05:28 AM
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But very user here eventually posts the same topic as a CMV over and over again. from either TBP or TRP. To be honest though has anyone ever changed their view here ? I mean I have seen posts about this and many say from both sides they are not open to changing their view.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/16 08:40 PM
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I am debating with users here about my view, and I have an interest in changing it. do I have to change my view in every CMV thread? What's wrong with my post ??
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/16 08:31 PM
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What's funny is your talking like you have used a prostitute before. I have both used a prostitute and hooked Up with a girl. The sexual affirmation from both feels the same. Why? Because money is not a factor during sex. It's just the same way money doesn't attract to a man. Once your having sex, and a girl is sucking your dick, it feels no different whether she is paid to do it or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/16 08:10 PM
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Of course they provide real sexual affirmation. They let you shove your dick anywhere you want. It's all about your pleasure. Have you ever used prositutes?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/16 07:28 PM
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Positive affirmation is a very general term. You might be referring more to forever alone a (FA) than an incel. A lot of uncles have positive affirmation from non sexual aspects of life. Me and my incel friends won math Olympiad and hackathon competitions in colleges. We got positivity from video games too. The desire incels want is sexual. We want sexual affirmation.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/16 07:18 PM
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Prostitutes only make it worse for incels because they would be opting for the easy out rather than putting in the actual effort it takes to make themselves more desirable. But if someone has no taste of the rewards for putting in hardwork, they have no motivation to put in the hardwork. The easy way out doesn't mean anything is bad for incels. It's like the batting cages for baseball. Whether you pay a machine to throw the ball, or have a friend pitch you the ball, doesn't change the experience…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/16 06:55 PM
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U honestly don't believe a woman's magazine would know more about women? Also the idea that any self reported survey is scientific is delusional. It's the same method of surveying anywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/16 03:31 PM
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Bull shit. Women sleep around way more than men. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1093011/Women-far-promiscuous-men-says-shock-new-study.html
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/16 03:01 PM
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All women have a desire to prance around naked in front of a chad. Just look at Dan Bilzerian.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/16 05:05 AM
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Most women are on the inside hoes.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/16 04:52 AM
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You know that there are also thousands of videos of men partying? Bullshit. prove it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/16 04:41 AM
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It has been over 7 days, when is the moratorium going to be lifted?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/16 03:26 AM
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Your soul-crushing insecurity is cute. Your alleging all monogamous relationships could be open relationships. That kind of talk gets you sent to a psych ward and put on medication.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/16 08:21 PM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/16 08:09 PM
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Genghis Khan didn't exactly captivate the women with his chad looks and huge dick. He literally raped those girls. It was either fuck Genghis or be killed/passed around as a fuck toy by his soldiers. Didn't know you were alive back then. Your attempts to sound smart are making me laugh.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/16 08:08 PM
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Your logic makes ZERO sense. "Both men and women can be murderers. Therefore men and women are dangerous" Your ignoring probability here. The probability of a woman taking stupid risks is much higher because she has a lot of back ups, while a man is usually blamed for his shortcomings.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/16 07:59 PM
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also a sex worker-renting cokehead who's subscribed to Ashley Madison? Only the disingenuous Rpers think that's not possible. Do you think a playboy bunny is just as intelligent as a software engineer? LOL.... PPD is infested with insanity.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/16 07:51 PM
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Maybe these dudes had an open relationship. So your saying ordering a woman to stay monogamous is unjust? your insane.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/16 06:53 PM
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Every woman you see out there is cheating on her partner with chad! Chad must have his dick more worn out than a fisherman's hands if women are banging chads everywhere! You underestimate a woman's desire for superior sperm. It's estimated that 10% of all men are direct descendants of Genghis Khan, and they believe he slept with tens of thousands if not a hundred thousand women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/16 06:52 PM
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Do you not believe relationships have rules you need to follow? Im just curious, are you one of those kids who thinks teachers can't make you do homework?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/16 06:46 PM
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Feminism promotes the idea that a woman's sexual past doesn't effect her character. What a load of bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/16 06:45 PM
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There is no right or wrong. People do what they want and you gotta live with it. Of course there is right and wrong. If you break the law you go to jail. If you break the rules of a relationship the relationship ends. Why do you think these black guys get beaten and shot by police? They think the police can't tell them what to do. Americans these days are obscene.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/16 06:44 PM
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The cheating is the issue here, right?? Oh definitely. Women having sexy fun with their husbands or current lover is well encouraged. The cheating but also leaving him with kids who aren't his.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/16 06:32 PM
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You mean he can divorce her if she breaks the rules. Stop thinking women are superior to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/16 03:56 PM
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No i mean if drugs could never kill you, and your husband would never find out about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/16 03:53 PM
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Who enforces these rules? The people in the relationship. Do you have no rules in your relationship? I don't own him. There is no deed, slave collar or receipt. So your husband can call your a dirty whore, go out and sleep with other women, and not give you kindness and respect, and thats chill with you?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/16 03:50 PM
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BS. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPhsD_RazLk
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/16 03:28 PM
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but guess what, he doesn't own that woman. A wife has to abide by the rules of her husband, and the husband by the rules of the wife. Are you that short-sighted you don't think relationships have rules? Would your response be if your husband died while cheating with a girl that you don't own him????
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/16 03:28 PM
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Haha I love the way you worded this. A CHAD STRIKES! Yea, what a lot of guys don't get is the power of a chad. A girl can go from the most loyal, dedicated GF you ever met, to a badass cheating slut the next minute. Women have less control over their sexuality than men in the presence of a chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/16 03:22 PM
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Did you reply to the wrong post?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/16 03:20 PM
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(i.e. not cheating on ones spouse and ODing in a hot-tub). I think most women would do this if there weren't any consequences.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/16 03:20 PM
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Also, even though a lot of girls do like drugs, a lot of girls also have no interest in them, and the ones who do often end up with guys who also like drugs. I think a lot of them are lying. They just want to appear like the good girl so no one suspects anything. But then once a chad strikes, it all goes away.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/16 03:18 PM
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Almost everyone loves sex, drugs and alcohol. Silly. Do you think this kind of deplorable behavior, to disrespect your husband and leave him with kids from some thug loser she probably fucked in an alley is normal? Do you actually think this woman is acceptable?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/16 03:16 PM
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You have no way of knowing your friend isn't lying. A lot of girls say they are virgins so guys won't be aggressive or pushy with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/16 01:36 PM
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Maybe it has to do with how mainstream third wave feminism is becoming, but idk. Feminism in the third wave is about making sure women can have as much sex with alphas as they want to. Nothing more.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/16 06:45 AM
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I wear very body conscious clothes, but honestly I don't even think this should be a big deal because I don't wear them outside of nightlife scenarios. That said, most women these days just wear giant anoraks and north face jackets and big messy buns (even for dates, which I've seen ) so it's not hard to look slutty next to them. This came off as snarky but I'm totally serious, women nowadays often don't dress to look sexy, let alone slutty. If I moved to Miami I'd probably not look slutty. You …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/16 06:37 AM
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-I love to talk about sex Stopped reading here. Women who like to talk about sex like to have sex with muscular bros from the gym. It's just a common fact of life. You shouldn't feel bad about it, don't try to hide it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/16 06:34 AM
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most women go on sex tourism trips in Jamaica and have sex with 25+ men before the age of 21, This is true. Most women do have phases where they want to travel the world in search of big dicks and alphas. Why would you think otherwise? Just look at college campuses.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/16 06:31 AM
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This is true. The sluttiest most entitled, wild sluts can be hidden. I knew a nerdy Asian girl in college who on one night out, got into a threesome with two guys on the football team.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/16 06:07 AM
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Why do you generalize me to represent all prostiute customers?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/16 01:26 AM
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Why do you say that?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/16 12:55 AM
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The point is denying people pleasure after originally agreeing to it is shitty behavior. I mean wouldn't women be irritated or upset if a man suddenly stopped sex??
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/16 10:50 PM
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I'm not trolling. If your husband suddenly stopped going down on you for no reason would you be ok with that ?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/16 10:48 PM
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i am entitled to a prostitutes body if I paid to have sex with her. If she stops the sexual encounter she is robbing me of my money.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/16 10:47 PM
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Again, the context here is comparing a prostitute to a normal woman. A normal woman chooses to stop a sexual encounter. A prostitute doesn't really choose to do this because she is getting paid to have sex. Women don't have to stop sexual encounters. It's a choice. Just pointing this out.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/16 10:46 PM
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Do you think straw mans are good arguments? I am referring to sex, not some random sex act made up by BPers.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/16 10:41 PM
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If a pilot in the middle of a landing suddenly decides he is to uncomfortable to finish the landing and leaves the cockpit, and the plane crashed, he would be charged as a criminal. Why do we view sex so differently? Denying a man an orgasm is sub human behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/16 10:37 PM
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It would be when PiV sex begins yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/16 10:36 PM
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In equal consideration to a mans pleasure yes. They don't deserve to assert any ownership over a sexual encounter, like stopping it if it doesn't give them enough pleasure or a guy doesn't have a big enough dick for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/16 10:27 PM
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Yes I have slept with a prostiute as a virgin before. It's much better than sleeping with slutty college girls. Prostitutes aren't narcissistic and entitled about their own pleasure like most young women are.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/16 10:13 PM
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I'm challenging the claim by rejecting it outright Look up the definition of challenge. Rejecting something with no critique is not challenging it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/16 08:04 PM
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you are the one with the burden of proof. You don't understand what challenge my view means.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/16 07:23 PM
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Anecdotes? Fine, ill stop posting CMV threads for now. Will the incel moratorium be lifted today? It's been 7 days.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/16 07:23 PM
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Practically no CMV posts have ever changed anyone's view, I don't see what's wrong with mine. I I am open to having my view challenged if people show me a women who turned down hot guys for casuals sex
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/16 07:11 PM
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Gotta love the fact you think ad hominems are legitimate arguments. Do you actually think flairs are serious? Looking at yours this tells me your spewing hypocrisy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/16 06:49 PM
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Prove it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/16 06:48 PM
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A view is a view. Your supposed to challenge it. PPD is not a scientific publication journal. I don't need evidence to hold my view. There are no surveys that ask women about having casual sex with extremely attractive men relative to not normally having casual sex. There are surveys on women having higher standards for casual sex. I would recommend actually contributing to the discussion instead of appealing to emotion. You are also claiming things you cannot prove.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/16 06:25 PM
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He doesn't seem to understand this concept :(
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/16 06:19 PM
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That is attacking my character and my personal experience. I am also no longer an incel, my first bread here was about losing my virginity to prostitutes I. Hong Kong. You should really read the rules.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/16 06:11 PM
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I play badminton on a regular basis and I do bench presses and squats on the smith machine. Reported for personal attacks
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/16 05:29 PM
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Do you have any other arguments besides personal attacks?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/16 05:26 PM
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the redpill men here have insisted they all heard the message just be yourself and be nice and some women will love you unconditionally in all of the culture they grew up in This is true.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/16 05:06 PM
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So being told the other sex will love you for you causes men to be kind and loving, but causes women to be spoiled? Women are spoiled because feminism causes them to think they are special and victims of the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/16 05:04 PM
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Men are such disappointments. We were sold a turkey. Now we're just left to deal with it. Nice sexism there.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/16 05:03 PM
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72% of women go to college http://www.bls.gov/news.release/hsgec.nr0.htm Try again.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/16 07:25 PM
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Programmers have a big tendency to be rejected by women as a sexual stereotype for nerds not being sexy or good in bed.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/16 04:51 PM
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Well maybe I should have been more specific about this. If the location is a place where most women wear revealing clothing, like a beach or a night club, I don't have issues with that since there is a sexual undertone to the environment. What I take an issue with is women wearing revealing clothing in rather inappropriate places, like a library or a grocery store. Here, I do believe there is some intentional attention whoring going on to taunt men that she would never have sex with around her.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/16 07:38 AM
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But if there was a world where we eliminated all chads both men and women would be much happier than they are now.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/16 07:34 AM
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Feminism and their lefty cousins are just working for a sexual strategy for women to fuck as many muscular chads as possible. Birth control, slut walks, consent laws to stave off unattractive men at parties. It's all paving the way for women to spread their legs for hot guys. In my world, chads or alphas wouldn't exist. There would just be smart people who prize personality and hard work over looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/16 07:32 AM
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Are u responding to the wrong post? I never mentioned anything about Islam.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/16 07:29 AM
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Why should men have to avert their eyes? Why can't women have some discipline applied to them?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/16 07:28 AM
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Gotta love those straw man attacks.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/16 07:27 AM
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Are you responding to the wrong thread? I never mentioned any of those things in my OP. Gender equality is BS though, it's just a platform for selfish women to gain power over men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/16 07:27 AM
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Women are pros at spotting desperate, sexless men. They can feel it just by talking to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/16 07:24 AM
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If you walk around people who can't afford food or are hungry with a sandwich in your hand you are taunting them. Maybe you need to learn to be more considerate of other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/16 07:07 AM
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Buddy, you are writing assumption after assumption about my character and what I think and feel. I never used the word evil in my OP. You are the one who is using this as an emotional rant because your just continuously assuming things about me from a feminist perspective. Also your not a mod, so I would stay away from telling users what kind of posts they are correctly flairing.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/16 07:05 AM
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Quit trying to police everyone. Literally no one wants to live in the world all of your posts seem to want to create. But the world I envision is one without any narcissistic, entitled women that waste money and just think about sucking a gym bro's dick. I want a world full of men and women who are hard working, intelligent, and compassionate toward each other. Why is that bad?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/16 06:36 AM
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With all due respect, you know nothing about sexual attraction between men and women, which, again, seems to be part of the problem. Reported for personal attacks. Additionally, its more constructive to disprove statements here then act like you have a PHD in psychology and attempt to make these triumphant proclamations which you have absolutely no authority to do so. To reiterate, this isn't about you, it has nothing to do with you. Do I not matter as a person? Why is it always about women? Ser…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/16 06:33 AM
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You hate them because they remind you that you're a coward. Can you quote where I said that in my OP?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/16 06:30 AM
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2 more days till i can start my incel threads again.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/16 06:10 AM
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who don't have a clue about what you do or don't find attractive. This is being purposefully obtuse. Women like in the photos i linked are attractive to all men. Trying to deny this is a fallacy. Dressing some way and taunting someone with sex is pure evil.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/16 06:07 AM
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Ok, so you agree this is not some fluke or super minor population as TBP claims then ?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/16 11:48 PM
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If there is little to no investment prior to sex in the relationship, meaning your just having sex with the idea it will turn out into a relationship, there is no commitment present.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/16 07:35 PM
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It's no different than a survey anyone else does. Science isn't a survey of self reported facts, so no source is really superior here.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/16 07:32 PM
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What does barely any mean? What does a real person mean? See, the fact that woman use these rational, vague terms to describe their sex life screams they are hiding sex partners big time.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/16 07:09 PM
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Well first I appreciate your honesty. Second, I believe BP cares because it lives under a rose colored glasses version of the world, where they want most women to not actually behave in Wild, liberal ways. And I think it's just their version of the truth, as you mentioned.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/16 04:44 PM
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Then don't be telling me casual sex is rare for women to have.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/16 04:28 PM
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But having sex so freely like that is having sex in the absence of commitment, which to me is casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/16 04:08 PM
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Nope. My analogy is not a straw man as exhibitionism, the constant desire to reveal oneself sexually is related to sexual promiscuity. You don't get that your committing a straw man
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/16 03:01 PM
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Your analogy is a false straw man because the vast majority of men aren't homosexual and the vast majority of homosexual men where tight pants
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/16 02:51 PM
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But look at the first article I linked, In a more modern survey women have an average of 9 partners by the age of 21. I don't think your sources have the best sampling method.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/16 01:57 PM
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A comfort zone is when you hold a belief that shields you from reality. Your claiming that most college campuses don't have any parties on holidays at all. Do you honestly believe this?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/16 01:54 PM
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Your the one being ridiculous. Your purposefully focusing on outliers that don't party or drink at all. http://youtu.be/9aPpGWBSASs Look at these Halloween parties across the country at college campuses. This is reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/16 01:42 PM
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Nope. http://bossip.com/1246200/jabrill-peppers-accused-of-spreading-chlamydia/ Girls love sleeping with alphas so much they don't even care if they get an STD.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/16 01:34 PM
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Yea but due to slut shaming and women hiding their N count you have to assume it's 4-5 higher N-count than it actually is. Studies have proved women play it down a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/16 01:27 PM
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I have lived in Santa Monica but now in Silicon Valley.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/16 07:34 AM
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Gym culture is exploding in America. If you don't lift at all you are considered weak and out of shape.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/16 07:25 AM
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Keep on spinning that hamster.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/16 07:00 AM
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I live in Shenzhen, just outside of Hong Kong. Are you a white guy? Oh fuck in that case this changes a lot. Asian girls will freaking hop on white guys in the sack waaaaay easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/16 05:23 AM
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my friends all see me with younger women fairly often. I bring my girls around my friends, my hang outs. I almost never go hang out with their young friends. Tell yourself whatever you need to feel good my friend, there is no chance in god's earth you are landing hot girls in college when your in your mid thirties.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/16 05:22 AM
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then you are probably more attractive than your 20-something self and more attractive than most younger guys, but those two limiting factors still apply. But you will never match the alpha's in their 20's who are rocking the jacked gym bod and good looks. That's why its impossible for a potential peak to be after 30. I think a better way to phrase what your saying is, most non-natural alpha's can peak later in life, like after 30, but that is not the true, potential SMV peak.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/16 05:20 AM
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Female incels do not really exist. The world's fattest woman has sex 7 times a day. Think about it, the fattest, and probably least attractive comparitively speaking of women in the world has sex much more than most attractive men. Female incels do not exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/16 05:17 AM
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average woman do not need strategies. They just need booty shorts, a push up bra, make up, and to spread their legs. Woman have sex available like pizza delivery.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/16 09:53 PM
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But I mean, this is true. their resentment makes them feel that every guy getting laid is an asshole This has nothing to do with responsibility, that's a BP fantasy to make themselves feel good on the inside. This is what women really like: Women like bad boys, but just how bad? According to a new study, the most self-absorbed men may be the best choice for women who desire reproductive success.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/16 04:18 PM
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Rollo's infamous SMV curve puts the peak at 38, Buddy, this is masturbative fantasy to the maximum level. Don't get me wrong, I agree with 85% of TRP, but this is maddening. Lets look at the facts. http://www.healthline.com/health/low-testosterone/testosterone-levels-by-age#Aging4 At age 30 or slightly before, men's testosterone levels drop by 1% a year. If we take the peak to mean the highest point of a man's SMV, its literally impossible for this to occur after testosterone levels have dropped…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/16 06:25 AM
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Now your utilizing the mental crockpot fallacy. All moral beliefs are tied to some desired consequence for people who don't hold them. BPers believe most RPers are lonely virgin neckbeards or guys who get thrown in jail for rape. They inherently believe that some force will punish them for not holding specific moral beliefs.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/16 06:15 AM
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what is ethical or not, which is what the just world hypothesis (which is honestly better described as karma) deals with. The way in which a person achieves what they want, and what rewards and punishments come with a way is what is under question. See this from the link in my OP: that a person's actions are inherently inclined to bring morally fair and fitting consequences to that person, to the end of all noble actions being eventually rewarded and all evil actions eventually punished. TBP doe…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/16 05:10 AM
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And your point is? Or did u just want to blurb out some pedantics?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/16 12:32 AM
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Then everything in existence is objectifying people. It's funny to me how sensitive American feminists are. That they are so afraid of people's thoughts. These feminists need to go to Africa and places where women are raped in broad day light by boy soldiers. That's where you need some feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/16 04:58 AM
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Lol, look up some porn videos of girls taking 10 inch or 11 inch dicks thick as a soda can if you don't believe me.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/16 02:45 AM
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Not sure what you're referring to, or it's relevance. https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/556jy0/cmv_an_incel_cannot_undergo_self_improvement/d88949v Women and feminists need to recognize their own entitlement and selfishness before they start calling other people selfish.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/16 06:01 PM
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it's awfully selfish to bombard a group with topics they've clearly expressed disinterest in discussing. No, its selfish to call incels misogynistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/16 05:51 PM
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Well that's fine, but thats awfully selfish and entitled not to debate about incel's struggles.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/16 05:43 PM
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Ok, then they can debate why they deserve pity more than most other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/16 05:31 PM
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It is an ideology. They have specific view points, specifically that men's sexuality is inherently misogynistic. https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/556jy0/cmv_an_incel_cannot_undergo_self_improvement/d88949v
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/16 05:23 PM
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Incels really have no place attention-whoring on a gender/sexual strategy sub. Why are you so inconsiderate of an incel's struggles? Why should an incel not be allowed to get some pity for their suffering?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/16 05:16 PM
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But the idea is you can visualize having the opportunity to achieve those positive experiences/outcomes. You can't if you have an abundance of negative experiences with the correlated subject. Your brain shuts down neural pathways and it's command center during negative feedback and stress: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2127686/How-stress-shut-command-centre-brain.html
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/16 05:13 PM
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you're telling them to strictly value women I never used the word value in my OP. If an incel doesn't see a woman in any sexual way, he needs to learn to see woman in a sexual way. next time you're sick recognize the fantastic nurse/doctor taking care of you and value women because of that. Women are not a collective group. The woman who is a prostitute isn't my doctor nor my nurse.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/16 05:11 PM
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A doctor is good because he/she is s Doctor. Lawyers are good because they are lawyers. People are valued for what they are and do, that's pretty normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/16 05:03 PM
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So wanting to sleep with prostitutes is misogynistic?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/16 04:04 PM
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do you really think framing an Incels personal issues as some sort of women's equality issue would actually in their minds fix the problem? It's funny to me. The issue of a woman being treated in some way has absolutely nothing to do with an incel. If a woman is treated in some way she doesn't like, that's her problem. Just the same way people say a man being rejected for sex is his problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/16 01:52 PM
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so how do you know it's joyless starfish sex if u never tried one ?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/16 07:50 AM
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Ah so you have never used a prostiute. The idea that prostitutes only give starfish sex is a myth. Prostitutes make all the pleasure about your pleasure. They do whatever you want. In my cases it's a thrilling experience. They will suck you, do doggy style, anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/16 07:30 AM
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Do you think it benefits a lot of people?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/16 06:10 AM
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on one hand you say self-improvement is useless It's useless in the absence of positive connections of experiences with what your goal is. You won't keep any motivation unless you can internalize what your doing is going to bring you some sort of pleasure.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/16 06:10 AM
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Why? Im just curious.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/16 05:58 AM
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Who made Reddit......
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/16 05:40 AM
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That's a fallacy. Ones character does not effect their arguments. I could say you saying no one has the right to call themselves an I cel makes you sound like a spoiled rich kid who spends their life getting drunk with daddies money and posting glitzy pictures on Instagram.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/16 10:47 PM
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That's a nice ad hominem there.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/16 10:13 PM
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Why are women allowed to be self indulgent? Why do women get to say they are afraid of dying if they reject a guy? Why do they get the privilege to complain about things like periods?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/16 08:56 PM
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Someone doesn't have to apply to every job in America to call themselves unemployed. Someone doesn't have to be trying to make friends to call themselves lonely. Judging people by possibilities and potentials is meaningless. It's like saying people have no right to call themselves poor if they don't go looking for jobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/16 07:55 PM
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Your wrong. At the very core, an incel is an incel because he has no positive feedback from interaction with women in regards to any form of sexual gratification. The idea of interacting with women in any way is interpreted by their brain as a negative, painful, hurtful experience. An incel will not improve himself or fix things about himself because he views what your saying as the goal as something negative and painful to the brain. An incel has to change the idea that he thinks sex is a futil…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/16 07:51 PM
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I think sex hurting is something women made up so men don't feel inadequate in the size department.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/16 06:11 PM
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or pain and they will try to stop whatever is causing it Girls love pain during sex. Why do they fantasize about giant penises and buy 13 inch dildos? Amazon has a fucking category filled with dildos bigger than 13 inches
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/16 07:06 AM
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even if it's a profoundly negative experience for them? If the sexual encounter was initially consensual and enthusiastic, it's not "profoundly negative". A source of attraction and lust for the man in question exists. Let me ask you something. If a woman gives a man blowjob just because she wants him to feel pleasure, is this a "profoundly negative" experience?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/16 06:25 AM
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Nice Straw man there. You need to be eating chicken, beef, ham, pork, lamb, multiple types of steak, and burgers.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 11:11 PM
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But the issue is sexual objectification is marketed as an absolute concept, which as these comments point to, is incorrect.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 07:20 PM
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Agreed.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 07:18 PM
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Because there are basically zero 40 year old guy and 20 year old girl couples in any college campus. This is male hamstering at it's finest.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 07:18 PM
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If you label someone as a creep, that's imposing your judgement on them, and not accepting they are a legitimate sexual being. It's not different than slut shaming.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 05:44 PM
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I'm a Confucianist
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 04:47 PM
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Well then how can you believe this field report? I mean, as some other comment said here, it's likely he is fooling around with late twenties women from the gym or other women who are divorced.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 04:46 PM
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This is why the whole "feminism is sex positive" concept is total bullshit. If you don't accept that an incel is a sexual being and has the desire to have sex and may express that desire, you are not sex positive. Period.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 04:45 PM
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Ok, lts flip the script. Why would a 8+ girl in college, with hundreds of younger, fitter, muscular guys sprawling around campus, go out of her way to approach some 40 year old guy in a bar?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 04:30 PM
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Isnt it possible that some guys just like turning up in the RP forum to brag? No. The real muscular alphas don't go on reddit. They go to fitness forums like bodybuilding.com or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 04:27 PM
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Because didn't you know? Men age like fine wine and a 40 y/o male isn't even in his prime yet! Just wait till he's 45-50, he'll be the main attraction at the alpha enclosure. Seriously, when is the real prime? The nursing home?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 04:27 PM
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Yes girls cheat. Do HB8+ girls in college cheat with 41 year old men, HAAHAHA no.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 04:24 PM
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He's probably sleeping around with a few chubby single moms and out of shape, aged out (post wall?) party girls. Yea that's buyable. Not banging hot blondes in college.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 04:23 PM
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The issue isn't the approaching, it's the guys age. Older men to that extent are invisible to college girls. Like literally. The amount of 40 year old guys in a college girls list of friends is 0.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 01:56 PM
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The issue is here it's very hard to believe this because RPers are once beta guys who couldn't get laid at all. I would believe this if we were talking about some college athlete.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 01:54 PM
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Ok, so you don't have sprees of women, you have sprees of prostitutes. No more mockery now that your being honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 07:54 AM
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Say you park a Lamborghini, a Ferrari, and a ford in adjacent parking spots. Which car would people look or take pictures of the most?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 07:49 AM
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Do tell me about these sprees. What kind of things do they involve? Last time I went on a shopping spree I got three cans of Popeyes spinach and grew biceps bigger than a girls waist. They couldn't resist and just started sucking my dick in my car.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 07:47 AM
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I've known guys that just signed up for the US Open and beat Rafael Nadal and Roger Federer without even practicing. It's unbelievable what some guys can do.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 07:13 AM
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exerting control over my wife. That's your wife. She is married to you. She is invested in you deeply. A man does not have power over some slut he is hooking up with. How would he enforce her breaking up with her boyfriend? Seriously, is he going to beat her if she doesn't?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 06:58 AM
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How is that fantastical? Look at the way it's worded: would drop her bf if I told her to. Nothing here is talking about her wanting a relationship. He is claiming some ultra-controlling scenario where he orders her to drop her boyfriend and she does. It doesn't have to do with what she desires, it's his command. See, this is an attempt to make up for power that a man feels he doesn't have. A real attractive man already feels he has power in a relationship. AKA the IDGAF look. He doesn't need to …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 06:40 AM
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that cheated with me, is submissive, wants to cook for me and suck my dick, That's not the issue. would drop her bf if I told her to. This is the basis of the lie. No man has any sort of control over a women's sexual agency. As TRP itself repeats again and again, women are the gatekeepers of sex. They are the choosers, men are the pursuers. Or a better saying is "She's never your's, it's just your turn". This whole thing about somehow being able to control her is a male fantasy. It has no basis …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 05:31 AM
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What's the point of having sex with him if he's going to treat her like a fleshlight? They're not going to enjoy it, Where did you get this assumption of yours from? Research shows women like more dominant, rough sex in the bedroom.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 04:31 AM
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Either that or you confuse male love for lust. The exact reason why there is almost never a case where men and women have sex for the sake of sex 100% no strings attached.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 04:30 AM
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Nah. Dudes fall in love after an hour or two all the time. It doesn't really matter. What matters is what requirement of investment you want from the man before having sex. AKA What kind of conditions are being set prior to sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 04:29 AM
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and the words coming out of her mouth are "I'm your property", "I want you to use me". Loves being fucked. Cums. Is walked back to her car and gets a last taste of the next encounter before taking off. You know who doesn't treat her like a piece of meat? Her boyfriend. Well then maybe if she didn't want to be treated like a piece of meat, she would stay at home with her boyfriend and fuck him. But that's not what the fuck is happening is it. Lol, do you actually expect people to believe this? Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 04:26 AM
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Yes, incels hate women. Proof? Links?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 03:45 AM
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Periods are just something for a woman to moan about, they are no big deal. Nothing compared to things like autism or cancer.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 01:26 AM
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so it's still better for incels to treat women like people while still showing interest and flirting. Then we can never achieve equality. If incels are treated unequally you are not really for equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/16 06:28 PM
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Yes. Everybody already knows this. No they do not. Look at my original comment in the OP i quoted. Lots of people say women never like jerks and are just manipulated by them into sex. That women have no agency to choose whom they sleep with. That women have no sexual attraction unless she is treated like a princess first. Those are the kind of lies that lead men to misery. If every woman was honest like you the world would be a far better place.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/16 06:26 PM
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Right, But the idea that they aren't getting laid because they dont treat women nicely is misleading because hot guys treat women poorly and get laid. The real reason is a lack of attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/16 06:23 PM
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And men don't have to like a woman to fuck her. Agreed! You're not Sergei Polunin, stop trying to be. Sorry. Be nice or you're never going to get laid. Well this is exactly what I think. Less attractive men need to invest more resources/emotional connection in a woman to get sex than more attractive men do. Spot on.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/16 06:21 PM
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So no, all women are not like that. Did you read this part of my post: Not all women are into casual sex, but for those who are open to it, this applies. Read the whole thing before you comment next time. Thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/16 06:20 PM
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And I wouldn't like that. I'd just be putting up with it because nnnnf that body, those tattoos, that ability to move. Well this is basically another version of what i am saying. Women don't have to like a man in order to want to fuck him.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/16 06:19 PM
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it has nothing to do with being treated like a fleshlight or 'piece of meat'. Treating a girl like a piece of meat literally means using her for sexual pleasure and nothing more. If having sex with her in a supply closet isn't meat treatment, nothing is.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/16 06:15 PM
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Nothing in your post says that women want to be treated like 'pieces of meat' by attractive men, Asking to be fucked in the closet isn't being treated like a piece of meat? Your misunderstanding the point. Women claim they need these requirements of kindness and generosity to be sexually attracted to a man. This is the fallacy here.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/16 06:03 PM
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Maybe give us some insight into why this may be? The issue though, with this scenario is that it still has some level of expectations because it's on TV. See, when a man experiences lots of rejection, he develops what many would consider a fear of women. He has no positive connection to women. Therefore he steers away from any opportunity with women that has a chance of rejection. This is why using prostitutes would help tremendously.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/16 10:49 PM
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Why can't they just use prostitutes?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/16 10:46 PM
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As usual female hypergamy intimidating poor, harmless incels. Bravo, Bravo.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/16 05:07 PM
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m not attacking you, cupcake. losing all of that fat, Your ignorance is off the charts.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/16 07:02 AM
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Im saying gates and zuckerberg are good exampls of philanthropy, and rich people like Dan don't follow that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/16 06:59 AM
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Who gives a shit that you are a software engineer? They made everything that powers your world. The computer your typing on, Reddit, FaceBook, Google. Without software engineerings we would still be in the dark ages. Do you masturbate furiously to the pictures of Dan Bilzerian on his yatch with his super models swearing to your god or whatever other BS you believe in that one day Asking for personal information is against the rules.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/16 06:57 AM
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Im in the process of reporting most of your comments to the mods because you keep personally attacking me. You will regret what you said when China becomes the world's super power.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/16 06:54 AM
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But this is the western world. Behave or fuck the hell off and go back to China. Do you like, not take history classes or watch the news? Did America not hold slaves? Do black men not get murdered by police officers every two weeks? Seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/16 06:52 AM
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Yeah, its not like your comments don't come out of a sense of entitlement, rage, bitterness and envy LOL. And yours aren't? please. I don't give a shit what he does with his money. Who are you to try and control people's lives? Are you Joseph stalin you little wannabe fidel castro? You owe your safety and your rights to the country who protects them for you. Without the protection from your country you would be killed by invaders like Putin from Russia or North Korea. Violating and not benefitin…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/16 06:50 AM
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Don't say shit like this to people IRL or you will end up in jail in no time. Steal his money. Are you against capitalism? China executes Billionaires. In my country, we do not care if people are rich or poor. If you try to rig things in your favor, you die. Yeah, socialism worked real nice didn't it? LMAO You mean Denmark, Sweden, Norway? They are all better than the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/16 06:43 AM
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grow up dude. Again, Im a silicon valley software engineer. Dan Bilzerian is a dum ass, extremely low IQ dude who uses Daddy's money to do stupid shit. Doesn't donate a dime to charity. He is the one that needs to grow up.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/16 06:40 AM
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You pay for sex. Aren't you the loser? Ad Hominem you got there. You poor thing. In your comment, you are simply trying to attack me and appeal to emotion. Your have yet to give one good explanation why it benefits anyone that Dan Bilzerian can spend all his money, hog thee resources he has, and not donate any of it to charity. Even wall street banksters contribute heavily to charity.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/16 06:38 AM
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Good looks are a form of currency. Currency is a valued item that one can trade. You cannot trade yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/16 06:33 AM
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We don't live in a society where women are passed around by men as sex dolls. Yes we do, what does porn and playboy do? America came up with that, not china. I realize that you are from Asia but here in the Western world we have something called human rights. Human rights are an un-natural addition to human life. They cannot be rights in the sense that they need something or some governing body to protect them. Women in South sudan do not have human rights because no one protects those rights. R…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/16 06:33 AM
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unless he inherited most of his money. He actually did. His father was very successful in private equity and went to Harvard.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/16 05:16 AM
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Yes, I have paid for escorts for my friends whom have trouble getting laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/16 05:15 AM
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That's not true. All success, especially business world success comes from being considerate of other people. This doesn't mean generous or kind, it means you view a group of people as interconnected and need to influence that connection as deeply as possible. Even though Steve jobs was regarded as an asshole and not a nice person, his vision of the world using his Apple devices was being considerate of everyone and how they would use the computer. The same goes for Wall Street bankers. They are…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/16 04:30 AM
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Sorry
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/16 04:24 AM
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If he was a kind person he would pay the girls to fuck guys who don't have girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/16 03:58 AM
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Well when you pay for some service you are essentially entitled to it. He doesn't own them in the autonomic sense, but he obviously has power over them, more so than in non monetary sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/16 03:57 AM
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Im a Silicon Valley software engineer so im working to help improve people's lives. Dan doesn't do jack shit for anyone. You have yet to explain why letting people waste and hog money benefits anyone but the person in question.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/16 01:43 AM
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He pays for sex. Most of the girls are paid for in drugs or cash.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/16 01:40 AM
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There is no such thing as a free market. Where do your highways, police, firemen, post offices, garbage service come from? Taxes???? God these Trumpets and their ludicrous minds.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/16 01:31 AM
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Okay my definition of "loser" was more along the lines guy that sits in his mom's basement and furiously types angry comments in YouTube guy. Okay, I can still work with this. That would also be a loser but that man in question isn't hogging and wasting millions of dollars, so it's not as bad. That's a benefit for anyone that wants to have hot babies! He doesn't fuck girls to get them pregnant. How many people can say they kicked a supermodel in the face!? That's a crime. When black men do that …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/16 01:28 AM
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It's not about communism. I am not opposed to the idea of wealth classes if they all play an interconenctive role. One person hogging a majority of the resources does not benefit anyone. There is no arguing against this.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/16 01:25 AM
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Read the title of the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/16 01:24 AM
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If it's such a number of women and the degree of excitement he gets from sex acts is so high, it's a problem because he is being greedy and not being considerate of other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/16 01:18 AM
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Any person that rich who isn't helping charity and just spending it all on stupid shit like Dan should be arrested and thrown in a jail cell to rot for life. Rich people, just like Gates and Zuckerberg, need to put some of their money to helping others.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/16 01:16 AM
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Because seeing people like Dan make me fuming with anger. It's a total disrespect for basic human resources its unbelievable. What's the point of allowing him to waste money on stupid shit like that? Bear in mind though, It's not about him being rich. I think Bill Gates is a wonderful man, he has done so much for the world in terms of microsoft and philanthropy i have no problem with him having so much money. But some dum ass poker player who just fucks girls and puts it online? He should be in …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/16 01:14 AM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_sharpshooter_fallacy The Texas sharpshooter fallacy is an informal fallacy which is committed when differences in data are ignored, but similarities are stressed. From this reasoning a false conclusion is inferred.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/16 01:12 AM
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No it would be invading Dan's home, throwing him in jail to rot, and taking his money and girls and giving it to men who actually need them and would benefit for them. As Marx said, unrestrained capitalism leads to shit like Mr. Bilzerian.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/16 01:08 AM
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Explain how any of those things help anyone? Your standard of beneficial is so low its ludicrous. He hasn't invented anything, contributing to any science, nothing. He doesn't help people as a business or as a scholar. He just keeps tax money from the government and wastes it all for himself. He doesn't even donate to charity. Even the CEO of goldman sachs, heads a charity organization in NYC
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/16 01:05 AM
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Well the former leads to a systematic oppression of hard working nerdy men, so i pick the latter. However, if someone found a drug to make women desire certain men and not others, the former would be more possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/16 01:02 AM
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we are of value just for existing, to ourselves, not for "what we contribute to society", whatever th efuck society is. Maybe ill rephrase this in your language, We should all be doing things to help make America great again.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/16 01:01 AM
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That's also a problem though. Too often men pass up the nerdy girls with cute glasses for some sleazy blonde from the bar.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/16 01:00 AM
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Lesbians make up 3% of the population. Try Again.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/16 12:59 AM
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Also, forget him, he is genuinely a loser. Its true that he has stupid money, it was his dads, and he is fortunate to have it, but overall as a person he is a loser. Well, you highlighted the problem I am pointing out. The losers in society are getting the most sex, while the nerds hammering away at societies problems are going to sleep at night without BJ. How does that further advance anyone or provide any benefit? Losers like this guy should rot in jail.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 11:50 PM
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Read up on Dan Bilzerian then come back and talk to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 11:45 PM
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Totally and utterly disagree. When i was a kissless virgin, I absolutely failed with women, but I had a decent social life among what many would call video game nerds. I spent many nights either coding, playing GTA 4, or battle field with my buddies from math class or other college classes. I also used to compete in hackathons in college. The validation incels are missing comes from a wild, party sexual like nature. They are missing sexual validation, like a girl giving them a BJ and worshipping…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 10:39 PM
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Then isn't that rape??
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/16 07:25 PM
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How does society benefit from people having drunk sex ??
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/16 06:45 PM
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Having sex while drunk can prevent you from resisting rape though.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/16 05:40 PM
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Its about decision making related to things that cause unwanted consequences, like sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/16 05:39 PM
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and you're not even in the ballpark of being able to have a normal interaction with them or probably even men at this point. That's an attack on me as a person. Reporting you for personal attacks.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 07:33 AM
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Reading your post history, I hope you're on a watch list where you live so we have a chance of stopping you before you go full Elliot Rodger. Why are you judging me and personally attacking me? Stop with the Ad hominems. Your views on women are severely skewed and you're not even in the ballpark of being able to have a normal interaction with them or probably even men at this point. Are you a psychiatrist now? These claims are ridiculous, seriously. What accreditation do you have to make such ju…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 06:57 AM
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It leads to a massive inequality among men. The muscular douche bros get to fuck 90% of the girls, while the average nerd has no girl to fuck. It's a cold heartless act that women indulge in due to their own narcissism.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 08:36 PM
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The first autocode and its compiler were developed by Alick Glennie in 1952 for the Mark 1 computer at the University of Manchester and is considered by some to be the first compiled programming language.[2] The FORTRAN team led by John Backus at IBM is generally credited as having introduced the first complete compiler in 1957. COBOL was an early language to be compiled on multiple architectures, in 1960. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compiler
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 08:33 PM
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I would feel horrible, but the point is your don't leave any evidence behind so no one finds out.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 06:10 PM
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You have no idea how many of my clients never fucked me That's a waste of money then.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 05:32 PM
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Grace Hopper did not invent compilers. Compilers is a name for any program that translates a programming language into assembly code or machine code. Further more COBOL is no longer in use today as a whole. The C language is the most popular low level systems language. Again, very tiny contributions.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 05:31 PM
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What are you talking about? When you call 911, emergency services have to come by law. If you walk into an ER, a doctor has to save your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 06:34 AM
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This is the whole fucking point of capitalism -- individualism, freedom of choice, the autonomy to fuck who I please and not some science dweeb that the government's assigned to me. Capitalism is a cold heartless system that leads to power spreading in the hands of the evil. Communism is the only system to which all people can equally be happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 06:33 AM
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So given women created large aspects of computers, coding, advanced engineering and physics, when are you gonna start spreading it for some old fat chicks? Women never created or contributed any such thing. There were like no female scientists before the 60's. Stop putting fallacies on my posts. Also, what about gay men? A gay man invented the turing machine. Spread your cheeks and lube your ass, payment's due! Gay men already have all the sex in the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 06:32 AM
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What's wrong with having a strong standard of evidence in debate?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 06:27 AM
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In the real world, men have to earn sex, just like women have to earn commitment. Disagree. Women are given resources for free in modern society. They get free tuition, lots of supportive organizations that give them free stuff, and welfare from the government if they pop out some babies.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 06:26 AM
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Giving birth is rather easy in my opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 06:21 AM
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Buddy, debating is not "bait". This isn't /r/Fishing You make these troll posts all the time just to get a rise out of people who respond to you. Not a troll. I am a communist, and i am trying to theorize the idea of communism being applied to sex and dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 06:21 AM
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Having people not want to have sex with you isn't an injustice. Why not though? If it causes pain and suffering to the person who isn't getting sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 06:18 AM
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Women gave birth to every man on earth. Who cares? Giving birth is easy as shit, you just spread your legs open and let the baby pop out. Inventing things like hospitals, surgical instruments, medicines, and more are actual respectable things.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 06:18 AM
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What if I don't value his contribution? You probably do, as the examples I gave. What if he supports the wrong political party and is thus going backwards with his contributions? Then he does not deserve any sex. I think Donald Trump should be thrown in jail, he is a greedy pig that hogs women for himself. A true bastard.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 06:16 AM
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If men didn't build civilization women wouldn't have good lives or resources. Shit, we would probably living under ISIS if it wasn't for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 06:12 AM
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Sex is in no way equal to money. Sex is a much more powerful reward than money ever could be. Men deserve sex due to the way they transformed society.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 06:12 AM
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What have you done to be entitled to sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 06:11 AM
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What about men who make world changing inventions like the Apple Computer? Why doesn't that entitle them to go grab a girl and ask for sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 06:04 AM
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God created Adam first then Eve.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 06:03 AM
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How do you know?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 06:03 AM
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actually it is. and it's my decision what i put into my pussy. whether it be tampons, a pussy cup, or a penis, I get to decide. But the point is that leads to violent, aggressive men getting laid while hard working men who contribute things to society don't. Your own satisfaction in life doesn't matter if it doesn't help advance other peoples lives. what about women who make contributions? should i get sex with a hot dude because I do neuroscience research? Yes, you should actually. I think wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 07:50 PM
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hint not all white people Ummm, did you never learn about the chinese dynasties, or Genghis Khan, or the muslim empires and their inventions? It's amazing how much black and white thinking liberals do.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 07:45 PM
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He's owed sex because he should be valued by women for his contributions to society. A female's sexuality isn't just for their own recreation.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 07:43 PM
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No, but sex as an abstract concept.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 07:42 PM
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Marry me and be my sexy hubby, that will warrant you sex. Ok so you would say that marriage in some way entitles your husband or a husband to sex? See this is the type of thinking I agree with.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 07:41 PM
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I think your not getting what my point is here. Feminists parade the idea that women owe sex to no one, and that sexuality is their own free will. I disagree with this statement, as a man who contributes heavily to society is owed sex in some way. It serves no purpose for women to just fuck with dumb gym jocks who have zero intelligence.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 07:36 PM
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Who impregnated them? LOL.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 07:33 PM
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So your saying men who have mad extraordinary contributions to society, such as Elon Musk that another commenter mentioned, aren't entitled to sex with women because of that?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 07:33 PM
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Read the edit.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 07:30 PM
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Im working at big data company powering one of those websites you use. Note: I am not talking about men as a collective, but dismantling the idea that no man is entitled to sex, as feminists like to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 07:29 PM
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http://whatis.techtarget.com/definition/deductive-reasoning Deductive reasoning is not a logical fallacy bud. A simple alternative is, for example, prostitution- payment for sex. It meets the definition of "getting laid" It obviously doesn't. Getting laid is a connotation known for scoring a girl or going out and having sex with a girl. You just committed a strawman fallacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 07:19 PM
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If you have both, then you don't need the validation of "getting laid" to prove your manliness. I smell butthurt in this comment. Masculinity isn't a label, its a biological manifestation of male characteristics. Either you have it or you don't. If you don't have it you don't get laid. Are you MGTOW?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 04:39 PM
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their problems are within their control. No one can control and make people sleep with them. Because rape is something that happens outside of one's control. Yup, drinking booze and doing weed in front of a guy who previously raped you is totally out of one's control "Why shouldn't companies be taught to hire unqualified people?" They already are being taught. Look up affirmative action.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 04:37 PM
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Well again, look at the contrapositive. If a man was masculine, would he have trouble getting laid? The answer is no.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 04:32 PM
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Go find yourself a nice working class girl who works shifts at Wendys. Why would I want a girl who eats fast food and is probably is fat as a whale????
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 07:13 AM
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(non-US) observations. Well there you have it. The US is a totally different ball park. Girls here in college are obsessed with the bad boys, the athletes, and the gym bros. If a guy doesn't work out he is considered weak, pathetic and out of shape.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 06:58 AM
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everybody can get laid. That's a fairytale perpetuated by feminism and the participation medal liberals. Get real. Only hot guys get laid. Hot masculine men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 06:48 AM
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how is it "cruel" to tell the truth and admit no one actually gives a shit about incels or even so much as THINK about them until they bring themselves and their 'plight' up? Because they are human beings suffering due to a horrible problem. Why do people care so much about rape victims? We are encouraged every second of every day to think about them and teach ourselves not to rape. Why can't women be taught to have sex with incels???
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 06:47 AM
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What are you talking about? You obviously expect human decency from other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 05:50 AM
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but I think your definition of masculinity ignores the fact there is some room for differences within the concept of masculinity. No no no, your not getting my point. There are differences in the concept of masculinity. Definitely. However, if a man cannot get laid, then he does not embody any form of masculinity, or else he would be able to get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 05:34 AM
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Having the "choice" to sleep with women is a luxury, not something all men have. Which again, brings me back to the point, men who cannot get laid are not masculine.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 05:32 AM
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Well, the vast majority of women are feminine. I mean the only women who aren't are like female athletes/swimmers or body builders.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 05:32 AM
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Because the only way to prove one is masculine is validation from someone else? Let's think of the contrapositive, Would a masculine man, with a strong jaw line, muscles, sharp eyes, or whatever you consider masculine, have trouble or be unable to get laid? As in can't get a girlfriend or a hookup or anything?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 05:30 AM
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My point is, you can have multiple manifestations and forms of masculinity. But at the end result, if a man cannot get laid, he is not masculine in any possible one of it's manifestations.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 05:27 AM
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You mean a guy that has excess money to spend on a gym membership and enough leisure time to spend building his attractiveness and enough money/leisure time to spend at bars picking up chicks successfully... What about that makes a guy a loser? The comment which i replied to was trying to argue the just world fallacy, which I was negating. Obviously men who invest in their appearance are masculine, but they would also hence get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 05:25 AM
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It's not only validated by women, a man can have a perspective of what other men are masculine, like football culture, handymen, etc. But what I am saying is a reverse effect. If a guy cannot get laid, he isn't masculine, and wouldn't be considered masculine by other people in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 05:23 AM
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That's an incredibly cold hearted and rude thing to say. How would you feel if someone said they don't care about you?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 05:09 AM
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Do you actually think Iraq is a reasonable environment for a man to get laid in. I'm curious.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/16 11:32 PM
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She is more feminine than the man in question would be masculine. Technically this would also apply to women if you considered femininity.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/16 11:24 PM
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LOL. Girls love losers. Why do muscular bros in bars get laid? Do you live in the USA? if not then I could see why u say this though.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/16 11:23 PM
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Oh man gotta love those strawmans! in Iraq for two years Tell me, where are guys supposed to get laid in Iraq?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/16 11:22 PM
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I'd think not, which makes me wonder, what is the point of this post? Because feminists and other people seek to derail or detach the definition of masculinity from virility http://bust.com/arts/16202-artist-drags-sexism-toxic-masculinity-and-double-standards-in-epic-comic-takedowns.html It's a huge denial and delusion to think masculinity is not at all related to virility.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/16 11:21 PM
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Men like to have sex with hot/slutty girls in their youth like is not the same as having. Very few men get the chance to have sex with numerous "hot" girls in a casual manner. The vast majority of women can have sex with hot guys if they want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/16 03:08 AM
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Rape isn't even close to murder, its like an excess of wrong sexual attention. Kind of like accidentally opening the door of a car that doesn't belong to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/16 02:57 AM
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Its incredibly self centered and mean to mock incels in the way you do. You have not one clue what it feels like to be sexless and treated horribly by women by being rejected for sex. It's the worst feeling in the world, probably worse than being raped. You can't just tell people their problems don't matter. Why don't women get told their issues about rape and birth control don't matter?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/16 08:46 PM
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Well ok, but what kind of things led him to be triggered for this breakdown? Like what kind of things did he talk about in his manifesto.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/16 07:51 PM
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I was a walk-on at a D1 school for a very competitive sport so you are wrong about not allowing walk ons. Oh and I got to pinch hit for the Yankees in the World Series because I practiced for 30000 hours. Gosh, people must love to tell lies on the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/16 07:50 PM
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K, why did he have that mental break down? Your getting very close.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/16 07:21 PM
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K, why was he on a murderous rampage? Were getting somewhere now.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/16 06:43 PM
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I dont understand why. How can people call themselves compassionate if they don't care about incels?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/16 06:53 AM
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Then your referring to non-revenue producing sports like field hockey which no one gives a shit about and girls don't go to the locker rooms to fuck the guys on the team.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/16 06:04 AM
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Everyone had to be smart to get in. This is a fallacy. The point of athletic programs is to bring people in based on their athletic ability. There is no college sports team in the country that gives scholarships and requires good grades.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/16 05:44 AM
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you're asking her for academic proof that people over the age of 21 have social lives? Why is that so hard to understand? If academic proof doesn't exist for something its pure nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/16 05:17 AM
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What if I told you that some tech companies have gyms in their offices Do you have any peer reviewed research papers that indicate what percentage of tech companies have gyms in their offices?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/16 05:16 AM
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Pure nonsense. Did you read the article I linked in my op? revenue producing sport athletes have the intelligence of middle schoolers. Many of them cannot pass their classes. The obsession people have with exceptions is mind-boggling.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/16 05:15 AM
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gun shot wound, K, and what caused that gun shot wound? Why did people shoot him?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/16 05:13 AM
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Your not making a good argument if you need to use Ad Hominems.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/16 05:13 AM
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No country ever integrated Karl's ideas, North Korea is a totalitarian state. You can't prove something doesn't work unless you try it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/16 05:12 AM
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Nothing would change. That's like saying winning the US open in tennis wouldn't be any easier if Roger Federer and Rafael Nadal retired. Do you not understand competition is at play here?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/16 05:11 AM
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I vote we ban oil painting since I suck at it. How is it anyone's problem that you suck at oil painting?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/16 05:10 AM
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Desperate much? Gotta love those Ad Hominems
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/16 05:05 AM
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Unrestrained freedom leads to inequality and suffering for the majority. Marx proved this in his writings and theories.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/16 10:25 PM
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Are you saying you're NOT lazy and entitled? Im a dedicated artist and web developer, I actually do constructive things with life, unlike guys who go to the gym.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/16 10:24 PM
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i WAS 21+ in a major city bar and party and club scene, AFTER college. Ya ya ya, I grew up neighbors with Lebron James and played basketball with him everyday. Believable right? On the internet you can't just claim things like this, your own experience is not a peer reviewed paper. do you leave your house? have you been to a bar? a club? a coffeehouse? It's against the rules to ask for personal information, why are you doing this? you need "Evidence proof" that theres an entire social universe f…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/16 10:23 PM
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No, why would I think something ridiculous like that?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/16 10:20 PM
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Why is it my problem if im getting pushback? I am just elaborating on some logical solutions to problems I see in society.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/16 10:14 PM
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Where is your evidence proof for this?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/16 10:06 PM
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Starving to death and having your financial life destroyed by greedy capitalists are NOT equivalent to having trouble scoring with the ladies. According to whom? Solipsism ?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/16 10:04 PM
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Are ad hominems your best arguments?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/16 10:03 PM
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Yes but the issue is whether competition is feasible or unfeasible. Competing to be the best guitarist is reasonable as most people can pick up guitars. College athletes though aren't the same. A guy who isn't a basketball player when he coms into college can't get on the team because literally no team allows walk ons anymore. It's unfair and stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/16 10:02 PM
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Did we forget about Elliott Rodger?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/16 10:00 PM
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Ok these make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/16 09:34 PM
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I am able to judge if my claims are legitimate or not. I have no way of trusting or knowing how people judge their own claims, or if their lying. How is this hypocritical? Second of all, no other country in the world has frats or athletic programs in colleges and they do fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/16 09:13 PM
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Oh so your not in the big sports. That's different then. If the sport isn't one of those ones that gives men unfair levels of popularity its cool with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/16 08:54 PM
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Have you been interviewed by accredited institutions or psychologists or sociologists about your experiences?? Making a claim requires solid evidence, and that responsibility is on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/16 08:49 PM
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what kind of help did u get from teachers like free passes on assignments or getting more time on tests? In the article I linked, it says most athletes get lots of academic support.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/16 08:47 PM
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I feel it may be where higher ranked schools have parties isolated in frats.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/16 08:46 PM
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Did u even go to college?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/16 08:41 PM
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I would have to probably use steroids and HGH to catch up to the level of muscle women are actually attracted to. Not worth it in my view.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/16 08:41 PM
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So you got a free pass in college and time to party while the actual hard working students in engineering actually did hard work to earn their jobs and achievements. This is exactly what I am talking about. Colleges are places for learning period.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/16 08:38 PM
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Do you have any peer reviewed research papers that prove anything about where casual sex occurs ?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/16 08:37 PM
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Most people meet to hook up at frat parties. Have you ever been to one?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/16 08:36 PM
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Communism is the only way to achieve a perfectly happy and peaceful world.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/16 08:31 PM
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Why does society intervene to prevent poor people from starving by giving them food stamps? Why do we fight for the little guy against the banksters?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/16 08:30 PM
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Buddy, if a basketball player who is 6'8" and jacked as fuck walks up to a girl I am approaching and steals her attention from me, that is not my issue. I did not cause this event to occur. The athlete did. Something is a personal problem if one is responsible for it. If a guy is rejected for being over weight, that's a personal problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/16 07:18 PM
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Why though? Their salaries would go up because they would be busy busting down doors, and conducting search and seizure on team property.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/16 07:15 PM
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False. Multiple universities have banned frats altogether in the past, like Stanford. There is nothing unconstitutional about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/16 07:12 PM
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If the standard of masculinity is lower in those places, then it makes an environment that's easier to compete in.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/16 07:10 PM
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Or, if you actually care about equality you could try to listen to male concerns and not invalidate them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/16 07:04 PM
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Well to prevent that we just lock them up in jail for breaking the law. Violent ruthless men shouldn't be on the streets.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/16 07:03 PM
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No, home gyms would be ok as you have to earn a bit of money to buy them, and they are not shared, they belong to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/16 06:21 PM
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Why are they ridiculous? They don't have frats or college athletics in Europe. and they don't have frats in Asia either.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/16 06:20 PM
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You can still do cardio and yoga and some sports, just not muscle building.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/16 06:11 PM
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Yes but how do we know the first encounter with him wasn't consensual? She sounds exactly like the type of girl to be doing wild sexual stuff like gangbangs and getting high.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/16 02:19 PM
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Where does it say he pumped her? Does the woman not have the agency to accept and refuse what she puts in her body?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/16 01:59 PM
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Do you think Kim kardashian is attractive ?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/16 07:45 AM
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But the issue is also why is she still hanging around the guy who supposedly raped her 2 weeks ago? Where is the logic in this. It sounds like regret sex to be honest. Also it's very rare for 19 year olds to have porcelain crowns for dental work, it's normally older people that get things done Kiel that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/16 07:43 AM
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her anus was bleeding and he broke some of her porcelain crowns. Well, on the flipside, Bleeding can occur from normal anal sex, as the colon doesn't stretch and expand like the vagina does. Secondly, the broken teeth could be from having a very large and thick dick, as he is a black football player.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/16 06:34 AM
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The claim of multiple episodes of waking up and passing out during penetration of the anus and mouth is very unlikely. Because she was intoxicated, she could only move her legs to lessen the pain, and she passed out again as Masina continued to have intercourse with her, the declaration says. She woke up again to find Masina forcing himself into her mouth, to the point that she had difficulty breathing, she told investigators. She tried to push him away and passed out again, Alcohol intoxication…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/16 06:27 AM
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It doesn't matter, the original comment was falsely claiming she never attended the party.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/16 06:14 AM
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but the dude had already drugged and raped her previously? There is no proof of her being drugged. Giving someone alcohol and marijuana is something someone accepts of their own agency. She admitted to driving to go visit him....
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/16 06:10 AM
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Wrong, when she accompanied Masina, who she has known for years, and two other men to a fast food restaurant.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/16 06:07 AM
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when she accompanied Masina, who she has known for years, and two other men to a fast food restaurant. Wrong, she left the party with these men to a fast food restaurant.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/16 06:07 AM
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Ah, okay, your sequencing is off. That's the order its presented in the CNN article. Nice try. but having two cases of the exact same experience? This probably helped her come to terms with it, So, a woman helps heal from her experience of rape by being raped again? If that's the case then as long as you bring another guy to rape a woman after you raped her it fixes the problem. You patch it up with some more glue right?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/16 05:44 AM
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you ask us to use a link you posted on the internet to serve as proof for your own argument! Pot/kettle much? Not at all. When I post a link, I know it comes from a reputable source that I trust and many people trust. I don't know what standard of judgement other people use, so I am skeptical of their links. Where are you living? Seriously, two seconds and a Google search will net you all the BBM porn you could ever want! Nope, didn't find any. This is why I said I don't trust other people's lin…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/16 05:34 AM
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She is alleging that she was raped on July 14th, and then hung out with the same guy at a party and was raped again on July 26.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/16 05:29 AM
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Being not violent is a virtue, not an inadequacy. Violent men have no place in a civilized world.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/16 07:24 PM
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Gay guys already have lots of guys to fuck, most gay guys have 4-5X the amount of partners straight guys have.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/16 07:23 PM
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The vast majority of these men are violent delinquents who have no business having sex with so many women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/16 05:51 AM
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So why is it people don't want to help incels? Because they are too narcissistic and self absorbed in their own sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/16 05:25 AM
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The sum total of the favors you are owed by the world: 0 Women have loads of free stuff. They have entire non profit organizations making sure they get waited on hand and foot. They get free education and coding jobs. They get men to have sex with them for free. Did you not see the links in my OP??? Here's a freebie: stop whining and complaining about how you're getting shorted in life by not getting your dick wet. But women moan about being cat called in the street and people listen to them moa…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/16 04:52 AM
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Did you just skip over the other commenters here that posted the links to the world's fattest man getting married not once, but twice? Why would I trust links people post on the internet? They aren't peer reviewed scientific research publications. Furthermore being married says nothing about the amount of sex they had. Could have been a gold digger. My article shows the amount of sex the worlds fattest woman had. Also, there are PLENTY of women who are admirers of fat men, That's bullshit. No su…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/16 04:49 AM
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until you admit to the existence of female incels and commit to treating them with decency They don't exist. The fattest woman in the entire world has sex 7 times a day. That's probably more than most college football players. http://www.laweekly.com/news/worlds-fattest-woman-has-sex-7-times-a-day-to-lose-weight-2530278 If the worlds fattest woman can get laid frequently, female incels do not exist. Which is how it should be. If you want the resources, deal with it. Why are women given free jobs…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/16 04:40 AM
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Well im passionate about my ideas about teaching women not to have sex with violent men, yet people don't listen to me here really.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/16 04:38 AM
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Nothing else. Your ignorance is astounding. Do you not believe women reject men for being too short ? No one owes you anything in this world. You have to earn it. Why do women get free birth control and free jobs, as i linked in my OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 06:54 PM
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Where are the appreciation for fat men? It doesn't exist. There is no women on earth who cant get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 06:45 PM
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Why do men fetishize about submissive, helpless women?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 06:44 PM
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Do you think women had ANY fucking help when they started the feminist movement? GTFO. Um, From Frederick Douglass and John Stuart Mill to today's scholars, there are plenty of men who, despite their flaws, have helped advance women's liberation. http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2014/06/a-short-history-of-male-feminism/372673/
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 06:44 PM
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And you might as well be my son, since your responses are shifting blame to everyone else to do things for you instead of behaving like an adult and taking ownership of your problems, wants, and desires. People cause incels to exist. If women have sex with men that were attracted to them, this wouldn't be an issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 06:00 PM
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Men also get to have crazy wild sex in night club bathrooms. This isn't a difference between men and women, Yea, like 1% of men actually get to do that. Why are you ignoring the undeniable fact that a woman can get laid anytime she wants? Furthermore women who are helpless can get lots of men for sex, but men can't do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 05:34 PM
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left wing media are conspiring to keep incels from banding together to help themselves. Feminists complain left and right that men are entitled to sex and want to ban prostitution, how do you not see this??
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 05:30 PM
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Im not your son and why should I have to get an education?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 05:28 PM
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Why are women entitled to sex? Why do women get to have wild crazy sex with men in night club bathrooms? That's entitlement if you ask me.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 05:27 PM
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Do you have any links to validate these claims? My friend was arrested for not reporting his roommate was selling weed.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 05:25 PM
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You think that feminism was all just peaches and roses? They got shut down far more than any mra, yet they kept fighting and fighting. Women were, to begin with, a privileged class in society. They were valued far more then men and treated as special. Look at how far feminism has come more so than racial equality movements. The majority of feminists were originally white as well, this is a privilege. Do you expect that the incel platform should be a major factor in society in a week? Feminism ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 05:24 PM
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sums up helpless, bitter, entitled manchildren. Feminists are the bitter entitled ones, they complain about men thinking about them sexually.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 04:39 PM
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Are Ad Hominems your best arguments?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 04:37 PM
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Ryan Lochte almost got tackled on dancing with the stars just for vandalizing a gas station in Rio. I think the college campus crowd is spreading out.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 04:36 PM
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It encourages equal and fair access to sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 04:35 PM
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This logic makes no sense. Who do you think is actually a strong confident man, the guy who has to show off and flex his muscles every chance he gets and talks about how strong he is, or the guy who knows his strength without having to prove it to other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 04:34 PM
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Hello we have foodstamps, poor people don't need to pay for food.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 04:31 PM
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If incels want a platform, put in the work and make yourselves a platform! First of all feminists can't claim they want equality if they don't help incels. They are supposed to represent minority groups. Second, incels would never be allowed to do such a thing, feminists have male only clubs on college campuses shut down.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 04:30 PM
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What do you have against tattoos? There is a very high correlation between tattoos and committing violent crime.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 04:17 PM
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Reported for personal attack.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 02:23 PM
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What if a man is too poor? Why should that prevent him from getting sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 02:01 PM
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This solution makes sense, however men need to also ban together to put the guys with tattoos and who are violent in jail.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 01:55 PM
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Are you saying women should be allowed to sexually support criminals?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 01:54 PM
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Why should an incel have to undergo self improvement ? Nobody tells rape victims to undergo self improvement.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 07:42 AM
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So I guess a better example would be if I would have sex with a woman whom I wasn't attracted to but having sex with her would benefit her self esteem? I would do it, it would finally be an opportunity to have. Sex. I don't deal with modern legal systems, I am more an advocate for an authoritarian government.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 07:41 AM
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Should you be asked to have sex with that person simply because it would help their wellbeing even if you are 100% not attracted to them? Yes, but the example you gave doesn't help their well being as neither party wants to have sex. See, women have privilege and men do not where sex is concerned. A woman could walk to a frat party and be fucked by 20 guys. No man on a college campus who isn't an athlete could do that. Therefore to be kind and respectful one offers to transfer that privilege and…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 06:13 AM
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If you're going to say people should be giving sex freely to those they are NOT attracted to, why don't you return the favor? Because it only matters if those people want the sex in question. Gay incels do not exist. The fuck does that even mean? We, as a society, start shaming women for not having sex with men they aren't attracted to? What would that accomplish? Well, we shame the ultra rich for indulging in luxuries and not donating to people who don't have money. It's a very similar scenario…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 05:45 AM
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Would you have sex with another incel male? Seriously. If not, then you answered your own question. Incel males don't desire sex with other males, and is not the reason they are incels. You just answered with a red herring.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 05:36 AM
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You are explaining constitutional law to an actual lawyer, FYI That's an Ad Hominem, the people you debate with doesn't effect the argument you are trying to make.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 05:27 AM
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What incentive does a non-incel have to help an incel to have sex? See, this is why people should stop projecting their privilege onto incels, they don't have a clue what incels go through. If someone has never had sex before, they don't have any indication they will get sex in the future. They don't make the connection between girls and sex. They don't see a way to improve and change.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 05:26 AM
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Take that anger and put it to use in becoming a better person. Ok but paying for incels to have sex and fix their problems with prostitutes is really the only way to cure these men of the idea they are worthless.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 05:22 AM
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Would you have sex with gay men who are incels to make them feel better? No such thing exists. Gay men are so promiscuous many gay men have hundreds of partners. Even bisexuals have any easy time being with men but a hard time finding women. Because we don't force people into relationships they don't want. That should be a pretty noncontroversial ideal. Nobody said about forcing, just that women should only be considered generous and kind if they are generous with who they have sex with.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 05:21 AM
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Women who talk like this usually are the weak ones, since strong women don't have to convince themselves they are strong.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 05:06 AM
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Well if women get those things daily from everyone they meet why not incels?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 05:04 AM
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Thats only if they have something to compete with. Incels don't have the privilege to compete, they have no ability to get sex. It's like signing up for the soccer team but just being the water boy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 05:03 AM
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I guess if someone broke into your house and cleaned it out, or stole your wallet while you were passed out, you'd wake up not feeling like you were violated because hey, you weren't awake when it happened? This is correct. You don't feel any of the fear or terror you would if you were awake when being burglarized. Actually this example is much worse than rape because it incurs a monetary loss.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 05:02 AM
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He was a huge topic in the media for several weeks and many described him as a big example of white privilege in America. Why is he not a good example?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 05:01 AM
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Link?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 05:00 AM
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Why does it have to be free. Why can't an incel get $150-200 Why should a man's finances determine his access to sex? We give poor kids scholarships to go to college for free, and women get free coding school tuition. why can't men be treated the same?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 04:59 AM
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Which would go against a ton of Constitutional rights we have in the U.S The bill of rights doesn't say anything about sex. Are you for unconstitutional laws if they support helping incels? The constitution was written at a time where marital rape was legal, so I don't think this is a good argument. Additionally, Justice Scalia and Lawrence thomas are textualists, meaning they interpret laws based at the time which they were written.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 04:58 AM
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In what manner would this be "forbidden"? We would consider women having sex with violent or aggressive men to be promoting domestic violence or organized crime, and rightfully arrest women for this behavior. Just the same way as not reporting crimes is a crime, sleeping with criminals is far worse than that. Tell the truth what kind of middle Easterner Indian or Asian are you? Im from Tibet, but this is an ad hominem.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 04:57 AM
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Women do 1000 things in order to find a relationship - lose weight/keep fit/use makeup/spend endless money at the hairdressers/spend endless money on clothing/even spending on plastic surgery. Thats to find a relationship with a 6'4" muscular handsome man. Most women can have a relationship at the drop of a hat. I mean the world's fattest woman has sex 7 times a day. http://www.laweekly.com/news/worlds-fattest-woman-has-sex-7-times-a-day-to-lose-weight-2530278 She doesn't do any of the things yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 04:50 AM
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And you're surprised people are disgusted at that?? Yes, I mean loneliness is just as bas as being the victim of violent crime. They can both ruin lives equally as much.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 04:49 AM
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WHAT? Women should have sex with men they aren't attracted to to make them feel better about themselves? If women want to be altruistic and kind people yes. What's wrong with doing a good favor? Do you encourage men to LTR women who can't land a man? Women are already a privileged class in society, while men are not. But I don't see why this would be a problem, given the man has the sex he wants already.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 04:47 AM
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You're the one making a broad, positive claim about sex curing all insecurities, so I'll let you start. No your the one making the broad claim sex doesn't cure insecurities, most people don't believe this. if an incel really thinks sex is going to fix all of his problems, that should be all the more reason for him to change his life in whatever way he needs to in order to become the kind of person a woman would want to have sex with. But what if he can't do that or he can't do that without any p…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 04:46 AM
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The government cannot criminalize (or "forbid" whatever that means legally aside from criminality) who a consenting person has sex with assuming the other person is also consenting. Well you can introduce new laws about it, like they do in muslim countries forbidding pre-marital sex. You could word it as sleeping with violent men contributes to the proliferation of organized crime and domestic violence in society, so women could be arrested for this. Just an idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 04:41 AM
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and having someone penetrate you with their body parts without your knowledge or consent while you're unconscious, come back to me and tell me what's worse. The victim in the Brock Turner case mentioned she didn't even know what happened when she woke up in the hospital until someone actually told her. It's like surgery, you have no idea of the mayhem that goes on in surgery when your unconscious.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 04:31 AM
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I'm in my late twenties now and have managed to carve out a decent living for myself, and even have enough in savings for a little cushion. This example isn't accurate because your not looking at things comparatively. You have more than you did then, so you are less terrified then you were before, as you say you have a decent living. The insecurity is still there because its still possible for you to lose your job/source of income and fall back into that state of being poor. However, if you won …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 04:29 AM
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if somebody had a non-profit org to help men who can't get laid it would be shot down to hell. This is exactly what I am trying to say. It would be labeled misogynist, sexist, and demeaning to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 04:22 AM
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Anyone can start a nonprofit and raise money for it. I am going to need some peer reviewed economists papers to validate them claim. I have never seen homeless people start non-profits to support themselves, therefore not everyone can start a non profit. fuck the excuses. It's easy for women to say this. They need to check their female privilege. Women get so many benefits and discounts just for being women its mind boggling.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 04:22 AM
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Brock Turner didn't get much support for his charity due to a media bias against white males. You underestimate liberal bias in media, its one of the main reasons donald trump has been attacked and portrayed in a bad light.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 04:19 AM
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I was never given free education or a free job but if you just know it's because of historical gender inequality. You were probably given your job in some partial decision to even out the workforce, as this is a left wing bias prevalent in many industries. The constant talk about the wage gap fuels this. Those programs are not funded by the government and they're not state mandated handout but not for profit charities that are spearheaded by groups that take an interest in women's issues. Well t…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 04:18 AM
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No, I want a peer reviewed paper on incels responses to suggestions by females, across multiple generations of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 04:01 AM
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But above you said "all their insecurities." So I stand by my statement. Sex doesn't cure insecurities. Sex fixes insecurities, it has a profound effect on the male mind. Please get me some studies or scientific research from accredited institutions to make me believe your claim. plenty of men who have lots of sexual experience are still insecure about sex, That's blatantly false. If a man is insecure about sex, he can't get sex, because women are repulsed by men who aren't confident about sex. …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 04:00 AM
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Incels needs to understand that nobody hates them nearly as much as they hate themselves. https://www.reddit.com/r/TheBluePill/comments/4rcweg/a_collection_of_rtruecels_greatest_hits_with/ What was that again?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 03:56 AM
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Women aren't going to start fucking men they aren't attracted to for the sake of those men. But that's being inherently selfish then. Incels would have sex with a woman they aren't attracted to, why can't women do the same? but your right, guess not much can change people being selfish.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 03:55 AM
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Well she has the privilege of having someone to have sex with. Furthermore females don't do any work during sex. It would be a man's job to move over all that fat and find her vagina.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 03:54 AM
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Women and men aren't held to the same standard. Both men and women should be judged by being what they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 03:52 AM
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Do you have any peer reviewed scientific research to back up that claim? Sounds very fishy and not believable. You probably said it to abruptly.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 03:48 AM
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Whats if its illegal or an incel is too poor to?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 03:47 AM
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while incels are just a tiny teeny portion of people. You're surprised they're not both afforded equal consideration? Another feminist lie. 25% of College Seniors are Virgins http://www.campusexplorer.com/college-advice-tips/E6F6928C/7-Surprising-College-Dating-Statistics/ 25% is not teeny tiny in the slightest bit. There are a huge population of silent incels on college campuses thanks to women only hooking up with the tall, muscular gym bros at parties. There's also the matter that there's no …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 03:47 AM
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Why should incels have to work to make it happen the way they like it? Women get free education and free jobs, as i linked. Why can't incels be given free sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 03:42 AM
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They don't. They don't really offer pity or moral support. TRP just shouts shit at people who don't want to undertake self improvement seriously. It's like victim blaming.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 03:41 AM
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Why can't the world's fattest man hit the gym 7 times a day to improve himself? Because he is freaking bed ridden. His legs can't support his own weight. This is such an ignorant comment. Check your skinny privilege.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 03:40 AM
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Few people know incels exist. I can tell you that most women think men can easily have sex (not as easily as women can, but fairly easily). Women (and probably most men) do not realise so many incels exist. This is actually the first insightful, reasonable comment I have seen in this sub about incels. I agree, many women over-estimate the average man's capability to get sex, and even more so most men. Personally I believe this is a result of the link between masculinity and sexual partner count,…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 03:38 AM
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i think you should talk to a therapist about them. Therapists do not help incels because they have a bias against men. They will tell men they are too obsessed with sex and need to start treating women like people. In my opinion, if women want to treat men like people they should have sex with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 03:36 AM
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Sex doesn't cure insecurities. Another left-wing lie. If a man is insecure about his lack of sexual experience, sex will cure that insecurity. Just the same way if someone is insecure about their academic abilities, studying and getting a tutor will cure that insecurity.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 03:34 AM
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They should provide attractive escorts to help incels as a form of therapy, to help them improve their sexual confidence and self esteem. I also think people should encourage women to sleep with men that are nice to them, and forbid women from sleeping with violent or criminal men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 03:33 AM
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If women run around complaining that they can't find a good man for a relationship, people more or less ignore them the same way that they ignore incels. That's bullshit, all of women's self help books and reddits like askwomen give sympathy to women who can't find a good relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 03:29 AM
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I checked there weren't free services avaliable for women who are 'involuntarily celibate' or can't find men to 'lust after them' either. So no double standard there, It doesn't matter. There are no female incels, because all women, even the fattest women in the entire world has sex 7 times a day. http://www.laweekly.com/news/worlds-fattest-woman-has-sex-7-times-a-day-to-lose-weight-2530278 The worlds fattest man does not. Stop trying to move the goal posts and look at the facts.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 03:11 AM
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Bullshit, why are there so many organizations that give a bunch of free stuff to women? Like what i linked? They give them free 100k jobs, women don't do that themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 02:52 AM
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But if feminism is about equality why don't they try to stop this? Where is the advocacy of the equality they stand for?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 02:50 AM
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If you gave an incel a woman, he'd complain that she doesn't really like him. How do you know this? What if sex cured all their insecurities? If you gave them a woman that wanted them, they'd complain they didn't have two. Incels are some the kindest men around, they are not greedy, this makes no sense. But I am not going to pretend to be a psychologist on the Internet Im gonna ask you from studies and peer reviewed scientific research to validate your claims.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 02:49 AM
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But if feminism is for equality why don't people hold men and women to the same standards?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 02:45 AM
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we made the changes we needed to make in our lives to find love, or a relationship, or sex, or whatever it was we were after. But why aren't women expected to do this? Why don't people tell them to do this instead of giving them so much support?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 02:38 AM
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Where is your proof of this? This is dum. That's like saying suicidal people don't want help, they just want to kill themselves. If incels got to have sex all their problems would be solved.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 02:37 AM
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what is stopping wealthy incels from starting incel loving nonprofits and donating time and money to them? Left wing and feminist bias of media.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 02:11 AM
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How is that supposed to help a man who is involuntarily celibate? Who can't find a woman to lust after him?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 01:57 AM
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Why doesn't society take responsibility for male failure?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 01:45 AM
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Do you not see the difference between the two statements? no matter who made it, and making that argument reflects on the knowledge of the poster. How does anyone know anything about people's genitals? Do you not get the difference between talking about a particular person vs. people in general?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/16 12:30 AM
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and making that argument reflects on the knowledge of the poster. How do you know this? How do you know anything about the knowledge of any poster here?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/16 11:41 PM
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but I remember you even intentionally modified quotes that I made. Seriously, he does this to me too. How childish is that? wow.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/16 11:06 PM
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someone's knowledge of human anatomy to a grade schooler? You are talking about specific users, that is an ad hominem, a logical fallacy. The user making the argument does not effect the argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/16 11:03 PM
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Look pal, you are not following the rules here, the mods agree https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/520tsk/cmv_trp_confuses_status_with_social_proof_the_two/d7h5jnn Why should i even read your arguments when all you do is change people's quotes to mock and circle jerk them? Why do you expect proper treatment here when you don't give it to others?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/16 07:04 PM
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to observe when someone objectively knows roughly as much about women's anatomy as a 4th grader Your attacking the person, not their arguments, stop playing dum.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/16 06:09 PM
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Why would I want to compliment that display of ignorance? Because in civilized debate you don't barf out ad hominems like calling someone's knowledge at the 4th grade level of female anatomy.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/16 06:08 PM
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Well whats wrong with leveling the playing field a little bit? Women should not be sleeping with violent men, they are destructive to the human race. Look at Donald Trump
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/16 04:58 PM
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But if that guy wasn't in the selection of guys to begin with, my chances with her go up. Do you not think rapists should be jailed though ?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/16 04:46 PM
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If Ad Hominems are your best arguments you shouldn't be debating here or anywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/16 03:26 PM
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The capacity to perform harm is a meaningless term. It's a red herring. It's about who actually commits violence. Blacks are pretty high up there on the violence charts. In South Sudan there are 100s of women raped and killed every day. Why do African people do this and not Chinese people? Why are are Asians the ones who have so little violence compared to Africa?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/16 08:13 AM
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Holy shit that woman is repulsive. Her fat around her waist is enough to shrink any erection.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/16 07:07 AM
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The only period of time Cambodia was violent was in the Khmer Rouge rule, a communist party that was anti-buddhist https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khmer_Rouge As a whole cambodia has a very low rate of violent crime https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_Cambodia
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/16 07:05 AM
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that I remember reading about int he media, I just remember an average guy who fucked a below average woman. Links?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/16 06:23 AM
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Buddy, the chads are not your friend. They might seem like they are, but they aren't. Sex is a zero sum game, when one guy scores a girl, other guys lose the chance to sleep with that girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/16 06:20 AM
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Plenty of guys on TRP are attractive and have no problem getting laid. Right. Attractive guys who have no problem getting laid do not need internet communities to coach them how to interact with women, it comes naturally.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/16 06:00 AM
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If were talking about violent crimes, then that's outright ridiculous. People who resort to using violence in their lives have no place in society. This talk about treatment, what are these people smoking? In poor buddhist countries like Vietnam, or even in other Asian countries, they have very, very little violent crime. Why is that? Because men are civilized. These violent men in prisons need to stay off the streets and away from women. Women should be punished for even thinking about sleeping…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/16 05:58 AM
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How do you feel feminism disrespects men? It labels all men misogynists http://www.feministcurrent.com/2014/11/05/it-is-all-men-our-culture-of-predatory-misogyny/ Boys will be misogynists: Men's hatred of women begins in infancy
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/16 04:46 AM
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Well there ya go, attractive guy gets dramatically improved sex life when he hits the gym. I don't see why so many BPrs here have a hard time understanding this.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/16 05:16 PM
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I'm sorry, but a magazine article isn't a legitimate source. According to whom? By what standard? I work in science and know enough scientists who have had their words completely twisted by shitty reporters that I know they can't be trusted. So because you said all reporters for scientists carry false information? Solipsism. Just because you don't like what data says doesn't mean its not legitimate, btw.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/16 07:30 AM
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"Intelligence is negatively associated with sex frequency," says Rosemary Hopcroft, a sociologist at the University of North Carolina at Charlotte. "It's a bit dismaying." And people with higher education levels generally have lower numbers of sexual partners. The latest National Survey of Family Growth shows that, for example, men with college degrees are half as likely to have had four or more partners in the last year as men with a high school education alone. (Or at least, they're half as li…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/16 06:53 AM
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https://www.psychologytoday.com/articles/201107/sex-intelligent-intercourse "Intelligence is negatively associated with sex frequency," says Rosemary Hopcroft, a sociologist at the University of North Carolina at Charlotte. "It's a bit dismaying." And people with higher education levels generally have lower numbers of sexual partners. The latest National Survey of Family Growth shows that, for example, men with college degrees are half as likely to have had four or more partners in the last year…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/16 06:20 AM
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Why do you say that? I think incels offer an important perspective on the lowest end of the SMP.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/16 05:38 AM
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The job part is not the part I am disagreeing with https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmav517MQJc Even homeless guys can pick up girls like crazy. Women are just repulsed by anything nerdy and videogame related. It literally makes them dry up like a desert down there. They associate nerds with a lack of sexual prowess and femininity.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/16 03:36 AM
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Video games -- yes. At times I have been a total NEET playing vidya 8-10 hours a day in my mom's basement and still getting pussy. Oh really? You know what, my cousin is the president of Mexico and here calls over his hot latina girlfriends to my mom's basement and we have sex while im playing call of duty.....NOT One thing I can see is why TBP distrusts field reports, RPers tell lies left and right.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/16 03:30 AM
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Do you play video games all day long and not exercise? Are they turned on by you playing video games?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/16 03:26 AM
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40-year-old virgins are pretty damn rare. You wouldn't hear about them unless you were one of their close friends. What kind of man would admit such a thing in a culture where men are judged by their SMV?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/16 03:23 AM
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Feminists are turned on by douche bags and assholes from frats and the gym, just like most other young women are. Now, they might gravitate more toward the bros who support fighting against sexual assault, but it's still the raw, masculine, tattooed muscles that drive feminists crazy. Women are women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/16 03:20 AM
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My bad then, This thread as whole is pointless though. Feminists like the same kind of men most other women do when they are young. In college the girls who wore "Consent culture" tanktops also went to the parties with the douche bags from the gym and the basketball players.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/16 03:18 AM
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A 40 year old virgin is probably a video game nerd who has no social skills, doesn't work out, has no muscles, no tattoos, and lives with his parents. His personality is likely very smart and nerdy. Talks about WoW, clal of duty, and a bunch of things which make women drier than a desert downstairs. What kinds of things cause a person to get to be 40 and never have had sex? Lack of masculine qualities, and being too nerdy. Now of course some BPer is going to reply to this comment and be like "WT…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/16 03:16 AM
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and men very good at hiding their misogyny. So men are naturally misogynist? This is why feminism is very similar to christianity, it uses tactics to make men believe they are all bad to control them and make them feel like they need to repent or be toned down.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/16 03:05 AM
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To disagree with you, RP talks about lifting and maintaining frame. Of course, i am not saying this isn't true. Women love muscles and are disgusted by feminine men or weak minded men. I am just focusing on the status part.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/16 03:03 AM
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So just to clarify, you have seen girls be turned on for casual sex because a guy was Smart and got good grades? There is scientific research that says smart people have less sex. Have you honestly never seen muscular guys get laid the most ?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/16 02:06 AM
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so you cant control yourself based on what other's are wearing? You have it backwards, women can't control themselves in what they wear. Most people in adult, civilized libraries do not wear crop tops and booty shorts while studying.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/16 06:20 PM
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It seems, according to YOUR SOURCES, that female nerds don't get laid. This proves my point that smart people aren't getting casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/16 06:19 PM
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Bruh do you REALLY not see what a horrid little hypocrite you are being? Good grief. Self-awareness much? The one's who are hypocrites are the hot girls who say they like nice friendly guys and end up with abusive assholes.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/16 06:18 PM
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http://www.dailycal.org/2014/02/07/results-students-sex-much/ Over 60% of engineering majors are virgins. http://tech.mit.edu/V129/N49/survey.html At MiT around 40% of men are virgins. Nerds do not get laid. If they do its not because they are nerds. Fact of life.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/16 02:21 PM
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freedom Men are not free. We are bound by the confines of the legal system and the extreme standards hot girls have.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/16 05:58 AM
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Good question. First I would ban all social frats and sororities from all college campuses in the US. They are toxic dumps that give no benefit to people. They are the source of most rape and sexual assault, alcohol poisoning, hazing deaths, and more. They are a low class of people that thinking having wild, drunk sex is actually an achievement. Next would be to close all intercollegiate athletics programs at all colleges in the US. These programs are nests for retarded men that have no place on…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/16 05:56 AM
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Why is sex supposed to be about rewarding virtue? When you seek out sexual partners, is that what you're trying to do? Or are you trying to get your rocks off with a pretty person like the rest of us? There is an inverse link between intelligence and fertility https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fertility_and_intelligence The more we let dumb people reproduce, and have sex, the worse off the world will become.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/16 05:48 AM
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If you can't focus on schoolwork because women are wearing short shorts, maybe you've got some problems with focus. If the woman dressed appropiately, their wouldn't be any problem. Don't victim blame. So honestly, if a beautiful party girl approached you for casual sex, you'd say no, you're not intellectual enough for me to stick my dick in and never talk to again? Well if i was presented with such an opportunity that would give me a different perspective. The whole purpose of this post is addr…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/16 05:47 AM
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Why do you think the casual sex scene is supposed to provide rewards for morality or academic performance? Because there is no benefit for people wasting mommy of daddy's or the government's money on partying, drinking and weed. Its a drain on society at a time when we are struggling to send kids to college.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/16 04:46 AM
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Your first link concerns binge drinkers, not frat boys. If you think frat boys don't binge drink you have not been to a college campus in America. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/05/23/fraternity-brothers-resist-efforts-to-curb-alcohol-consumption-study-says/
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/16 04:41 AM
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they have to convince themselves that they're unintelligent jerks that 'have no real goals after college' It's a proven fact there is a reverse correlation between binge drinking and college GPA. http://news.psu.edu/story/172329/2009/11/16/study-inverse-relationship-between-alcohol-abuse-and-college-gpa Most frats have very low average GPAs. The one mentioned her has an average GPA of 1.2, or a D in the letter scale system. http://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2013/12/04/pitt-fraternity-council-levies…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/16 04:28 AM
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Except I have known many college athletes and frat boys who WERE quite smart, gifted, and capable. Yale has frats, and so does MIT. Thats a straw man. Most frat boys are unintelligent with very little academic achievement. http://news.psu.edu/story/172329/2009/11/16/study-inverse-relationship-between-alcohol-abuse-and-college-gpa Most of them are violent and aggressive: http://nypost.com/2015/10/23/frat-bros-arrested-for-beating-student-smile-in-mugshots/
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/16 04:26 AM
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So what's your plan? Force women to have sex with men they're not attracted to? Nope. It consists of many parts, but the main goal is to disrupt the college party culture. First would be to ban all greek societies and close all of their houses, hands down. Then I would close all college athletics programs so that only students admitted to the university for academic achievement can play on the teams.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/16 04:24 AM
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Why are you objecting to girls' butts hanging out of short shorts? Are you TRYING to ruin it for the rest of us? Sit back and appreciate the view, dude. In the middle of a library or class? It's totally off topic and inappropriate. It's totally disrespectful to the men trying to focus on school work. If it's some where like the beach or a party thats fine. I assume the author of this post, not being a hypocrite, chooses his sexual partners solely on the basis of how much they contribute to socie…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/16 04:22 AM
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Natural Selection? Maybe you have heard of it. Indeed. But natural selection would select the traits most likely to survive. If this is true, the man with the most earning potential would be selected. If were talking about pure survivability, muscles don't mean much when we have invented fire arms that can rip right through you. Additionally, on the topic of natural selection, women shouldn't be selecting heavy drinkers because that puts your health at severe risk.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/16 04:20 AM
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Pre-professional frats are pretty common man. You think all the guys in the pre-med frat are subhuman rapists? Do pre-professional frats have houses at any colleges? Im referring to social frats with a legit house and parties of their own. I can't tell if you hate women or sexually successful men more, but you don't seem to understand either group. I guess the better answer to this question is I have a general dis-like of the college dating world because its primarily based on things that have n…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/16 04:18 AM
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Most girls in college are involved heavily in the party scene. Maybe not so much at more nerdy schools, like MIT, but at places like USC, oh hell yea. As a side note, the two types of men you described aren't exclusive, athletes, frat boys, and party boys, all may also work hard in school and have professional goals. Statistically they don't though. Athletes are recruited to college almost entirely based on their athletic ability. Have you never heard of the basketball players who have a middle …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/16 04:12 AM
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That doesn't mean people won't attack, you but you aren't wrong. Dumb, dysfunctional people have more kids and more sex than smart, functional people. The sad part is you can't even state this honest fact w/o people getting upset and calling you a loser. Yea, i don't get why people do not see this. Mark Zuckerberg, Larry Page, Bill Gates, none of those guys were gym jocks who partied all day in college. They may have done some drugs, like Obama used to smoke weed, but he is a Harvard Graduate an…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/16 04:07 AM
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Did you know personal attacks are against the rules here? Guess not. Reported.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/16 04:02 AM
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I'm pretty vocal on here with my belief that most men don't have much access to casual sex, but most men can get relationships, and sex in those relationships. Well yes this makes sense. But the problem is that casual sex is going to such a small amount of men. Just like rich have to pay more taxes, why do the most ripped guys have most of the girls?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/16 11:05 PM
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It's time for an end to the sexual segregation! Did u not read the article I linked? Isn't it obvious women aren't hoping into bed with nerds that are actually having an impact on the world
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/16 11:04 PM
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Can't have people making choices that I don't agree with. But if those choices are hurtful to a very large population of men, why should people be allowed to make them?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/16 11:02 PM
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Well the economy is oppressive to the below average earner, in terms of household income. People care a whole lot about that. Look at the following Bernie Sanders got. If people are fine with restraining the rich whats the issue with below average men?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/16 10:55 PM
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So your saying there would be no option for a one gender locker-room? Women would never allow such a thing. Women would never agree to exposing their bodies to fat, old, and smelly men who use gym locker rooms. They would say such a thing is a violation of privacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/16 10:16 PM
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White knighting and Ad Hominem in a two for one deal, this is a bargain. It is to laugh... If you want something to laugh at you should listen to feminists complain about men. https://mnnowblog.wordpress.com/
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/16 04:34 PM
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OP is not willing to give women either one. The classic Ad Hominem.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/16 04:23 PM
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not a personal attack. Your comment removed and it is indeed a personal attack. Ad Hominems are not welcome here. A debate should never entail the people you are debating with.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/16 02:25 PM
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Apparently you have never been to a college campus. The majority of young women are attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/16 02:23 PM
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I'm going to assume you didn't read the rules that personal attacking is against the rules!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/16 06:47 AM
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Well the question is do you expect those things because you are a woman or do you expect them because you feel you can't carry everything yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/16 06:46 AM
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Another human being growing in your body against your wishes If the girl chose to have sex, its obviously not against her wishes. wishes seems less severe to you than not getting laid? Of course. You can only have the luxury of birth control and abortion if you live in a nice country like the US or europe. Poor kids in places like SE Asia don't have access to such luxuries. Getting laid is a basic human desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/16 06:17 AM
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why should I care about your dick? See, this is the elitist attitude women have I am trying to call out. Men are bombarded with messages urging them to care about a woman's sex life. Don't slut shame, support birth control, support abortion, support efforts to stop rape. When do women start caring about men's issues?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/16 01:39 AM
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They are equal in very regard except sexuality. Male sexuality is very simple and straight forward. Men like most women who look feminine and are of a decent weight. Men like a wide variety of body types, big butts, big boobs, small butt, small waist, etc. Female sexuality comes from a place of high standards and elitism. Females can only express their sexuality if they dont feel "objectified" or "creeped out". They have to have extremely good looking men, to which have excellent, muscular bodie…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/16 05:07 PM
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professional athletics where the necessary level of skill to compete absolutely can not be taught. So A-Rod was hitting homers out of his crib? Try again pal.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/16 04:16 PM
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A lot of the men here don't seem to give any fucks about men getting paid more than women for the same work. But society as a whole cares tremendously about womens equal pay. You know Hillary Clinton right? You can't force people to be sexually attracted to you. What do you suggest? You can limit the number of women a man can sleep with in a given period of time, just the same way we use taxes to limit the growth of the rich sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/16 04:15 PM
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He is probably saying you might not want to be fucking the same woman, given the aging process.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/16 02:23 PM
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very extended form of prostitution? Well, like prostitution, its a form of an obligatory contract involving relationships and sex. It's not the same in the sense it is not transactional, the relationship in a marriage is mutual.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/16 02:21 PM
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We don't live under a meritocracy. People get hired based on their connections to the employer and their skills. Someone who knows the employer they are applying to a job for well is much more likely to get the job then someone who has the same skill set but doesn't know the manager who's hiring.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/16 01:58 PM
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Uh the male gender does get an equal amount of sex as the female gender, Thats a statistical fallacy, because it assumes every male has sex with one and only one female, or vica versa, which is obviously false. In the age of promiscuity, women have more sex than men
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/16 07:01 AM
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Because sexual assault is disgusting and not okay. Exactly! I agree. But why would a woman put themselves in situations at high risk for things to occur? For example, people who are afraid of heights normally avoid being up high in buildings, flying, and other things relating to height.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/16 06:20 AM
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He's probably referring to the idea that women can only have sex with people they are attracted to, which is false, women can have duty sex with husbands they aren't into, or prostitute themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/16 06:18 AM
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because if you see other people like you doing something, you believe you can do it too. Hmmm, do you believe that the NBA should make more of an effort for more Asian and white men to play in the league, instead of the 80% + black dudes? If this happened, do you believe boys who aren't black would be more into basketball?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/16 06:16 AM
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Well, it's working for us. Its a false world view. It fails to acknowledge that good people sometimes fail because they are too moral and kind, and bad people succeed because they managed to manipulate others.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/16 05:43 AM
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If women aren't willing to show concerns towards men sexual needs, and just want to indulge in their sexual adventures with the gym bros in the club, then what incentive do men have to care about equal pay?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/16 05:42 AM
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Women are less interested in engineering http://www.nature.com/scitable/forums/women-in-science/are-girls-and-women-just-not-interested-19620118 representation is important. Why is it important? The most important thing is that a job gets done well, no matter if its 100% men or women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/16 05:41 AM
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Because men are urged to view women as being entitled to equal pay, despite them choosing lower paying carrier paths.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/16 05:38 AM
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Thats right, and more importantly, women still aren't showing a concern that men are living happy sex lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/16 05:16 AM
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If a man is doing a different, harder job than his female coworker then yeah. But this is mostly the case. Women go after lower paying degrees and fields, while men choose more computer science degrees and engineering degrees on avrage http://www.forbes.com/2010/08/10/most-popular-college-degrees-for-women-forbes-woman-leadership-education-business.html
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/16 05:15 AM
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Women are pursuing low earning degrees like English and Art History way too much http://www.forbes.com/2010/08/10/most-popular-college-degrees-for-women-forbes-woman-leadership-education-business.html
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/16 05:11 AM
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it won't change the fact that you can't get laid. That's a swell Ad Hominem fallacy you get there.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/16 04:48 AM
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Yeah well that 18% needs to get paid as much as the 82% for working the same amount of hours. The point is the majority of women don't have high paying jobs to begin with, so a statistic trying to cover all professions between men and women in one number is an utter fallacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/16 04:46 AM
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It says she was allegedly sexually harassed It doesn't matter what it is, she is trying to become rich off gender discrimination. Was the victim of the Brock Turner case offered millions upon millions? No.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/16 04:45 AM
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we seem to be more aware of the world around us, so...I think he knows what he's talking about :-) Thats false, BPers are living in the just world hypothesis https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Just-world_hypothesis that a person's actions are inherently inclined to bring morally fair and fitting consequences to that person, to the end of all noble actions being eventually rewarded and all evil actions eventually punished. In other words, the just-world hypothesis is the tendency to attribute conseque…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/16 04:43 AM
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'cushy high-paying job'. Why do Computer science jobs, that are cushy, high paying jobs making usually over $110k a year, are the biggest target of equal gender pay, while its silent about this issue in other industries?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/16 04:42 AM
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http://nytlive.nytimes.com/womenintheworld/2015/04/06/ellen-pao-does-not-regret-her-unsuccessful-silicon-valley-lawsuit/
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/16 04:40 AM
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The men on Reddit are going to be below average with social skills etc so it's harder for them to get laid. Simple And a study to prove that is where?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/16 04:39 AM
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http://nytlive.nytimes.com/womenintheworld/2015/04/06/ellen-pao-does-not-regret-her-unsuccessful-silicon-valley-lawsuit/ Ellen Pao is a former CEO of reddit who tried to sue for 144 million dollars for gender discrimination, its the literal definition of using your gender for monetary entitlement.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/16 04:39 AM
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We are entitled to it because we work equally as hard and do the same amount of work as men, and it makes no sense to get paid less. Thats a false assumption and a blanket statement. Women don't pursue the same career paths nearly as much as men. It's a pointless statistic to encompass all professions that women all work the same. For example, only about 18% of computer science degree graduates are female. Why aren't women studying computer science instead of art history?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/16 04:36 AM
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When it comes to our bodily autonomy, many of us aren't concerned with other's welfare. Well why is every college campus going nuts over sexual assault? If woman want to go out to parties dressed like escorts and get totally drunk, they are putting themselves in arms reach of guys who can do bad things to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/16 04:32 AM
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Men can get laid almost whenever they want. Blatantly false. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1093011/Women-far-promiscuous-men-says-shock-new-study.html By the age of 21 they have had sex with an average of nine lovers - two more than their male partner. And a quarter have slept with more than ten partners in the five years since losing their virginity - compared with a fifth of young men. Little boys playing on their computers can't. So the 40% of men in college who are virgins are al…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/16 04:16 AM
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I never said they did. I just think this is something that a lot of men don't realise. They think women need to be validated by them and this is generally untrue. Women have more body image and self esteem issues than men, so your likely wrong. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-44899/Women-unhappy-bodies-men.html
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/16 05:23 PM
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Yes, because the college culture I was in, that many people experience in the US, was obsessed with sex. Sex was what made a guy cool, and all these women who came to class dressed like they were going to have sex always rubbed that in my face.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/16 02:56 PM
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Wanting to get into someone's pants does not make you sexually obsessed, it makes your normal. If a guy doesn't care about sex, he isn't sexually confident, and isn't a Chad. Again, it's silly to claim your a pro at baseball if you never played before.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/16 04:32 PM
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Your not taking into account supply and demand. An Asian girl in the states is an environment saturated with hot white guys. In Japan however, there is close to zero of them. Japan has thousands of bored housewives with herblore men as husbands. There are a lot of clubs in Tokyo where the female to male ratio is like 7:1. When women are low on options, they lower their standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/16 11:51 PM
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here are Chad's who have never had sex because their religious Then those are not chads. That's the equivalent of saying you could be an MLB player but you just don't like baseball or don't want to. It's a thing anyone can say. Not reliable.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/16 11:28 PM
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What about white Guy's who can't get laid in the states but get girls in Tokyo in Shibuya easy as pie? Your making the mistake of assuming all standards are equal everywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/16 11:25 PM
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Incels simply do have much bigger problems and lack of sex is merely a symptom. Getting laid often won't cure their underlying issues. Disagree about the symptom part. Their problems originally began because they were outcast, and not accepted socially or sexually by women. Had they been getting early sexual successes, they wouldn't be in the position they are today. They wouldn't have developed their current mindset and behaviors. I understand you gained confidence after banging prozzies which …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/16 07:13 AM
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More like upgraded masturbation. Lol, having your dick sucked and wildly pounding a beautiful girl is not upgraded masturbation. What they are trying to articulate is they want love and belonging. Maybe. In most cases incels probably have love from their mom or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/16 07:03 AM
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Once they'd have sex, they'd realize how overrated it is by most society's feedback. It's cool, it feels good, but it isn't worth all the suffering to be honest. It's a fast way to change their ideas and gain confidence and abundance mentality. Exactly. See when I was a virgin, and I would get rejected by a girl, it felt like being shut out from an exclusive club of people getting access to sex. It hurt really bad. I felt so desperate because I felt stranded. But now after i have had a couple of…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/16 06:50 AM
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To dig further into your analogy, a lot of homeless people are suffering from mental illness. It is thought that somewhere around a third of all homeless people have schizophrenia. Throwing money at them won't solve all their problems. It won't but giving them money gives them a base to work off of. For example, most entrepreneurs, are really from the middle class and up. Even Steve Jobs adoptive parents had their own house with a garage, etc. Very, very few business starters are from dirt poor …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/16 06:18 AM
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So, does feeding someone make them less hungry?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/16 06:14 AM
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despite wanting to have sex, cannot. See this is a very misleading statement. The real issue at hand is, they don't have anyone interested in having sex with them. It's a situational problem. It's harder to prove it to be absolute. Maybe that isn't why he is poor. Maybe he is a junkie. Give him a pile of money and he won't rebuild, he won't change his condition. He'll buy lots of drugs and find himself in the same spot. They were poor for different reasons, and different solutions were needed. B…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/16 06:13 AM
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Identity politics. The left frames women as the innocent, non-harming gender, and their actions are viewed accordingly to that identity.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/16 06:23 PM
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BLM was created because police were killing black youth. That's absolutely a societal problem. They are killing black youth on a PCP trip refusing to put down a knife in the middle of a road. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Laquan_McDonald
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/16 06:38 PM
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Don't take a personal problem and try to make it a societal one. Thats what feminists and SJWs do all the time. Why is it a societal problem if transgendered people kill themselves? Why is it a problem if BLM activists block freeways? Thats a personal problem. "GIVE THAT MAN PUSSY OR HE MIGHT KILL SOMEONE!" If one woman gave him 5 minutes in her pussy she could have saved 7 lives. But I guess that's too much of a personal obligation. Prostitutes have sex with people all the time that they aren't…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/16 05:44 PM
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Do you honestly believe being unable to have sex as a man isn't psychologically damaging ? Elliott Rodger felt otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/16 04:25 PM
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Rape is not consensual....
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/16 04:23 PM
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So but the experience of rape didn't effect your sexuality or make you feel like you lost control over your body?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/16 04:22 PM
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Do you not believe being rejected by women is emotionally damaging ? Look at Elliott Rodger ?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/16 04:20 PM
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Rape is a sexual intercourse session which is non consensual. Don't try to re define legal definitions. So where did I talk about gay rape here???
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/16 04:19 PM
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Of course it is. A man not being able to have sex is very psychologically damaging. Look at Elliott Rodger.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/16 04:17 PM
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I think the parallel you're trying to make is between a man being unable to participate in sex to a woman being unable to participate in sex, but since you've convinced yourself that such women don't exist, you're reaching. Well the reason I made this comparison is not because women who are unable to participate in sex don't exist, it's because they are very very very rare. The more common scenario in the modern world is where a woman has it easy in the dating market. She gets a shit load of val…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/16 04:16 PM
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Why did Rhianna go back to Chris Brown after being beat by him? When she is one of the most beautiful women in the world?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/16 11:07 PM
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For a male, rape is at least some form of pleasure, since they make a step up from being alone to having some activity. Females never have to worry about being alone, hence rape is the equivalent of being an incel, the freedom to express sexuality is taken.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/16 06:54 PM
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If I pinned you down, pummeled you into semi-unconscious, and rammed my big dick into your ass while you cried through the blood... you think that is the equivalent of sitting home alone with no girlfriend? Yes. Women have complete control over choosing when and how to have sex. Taking that away from them is rape. It robs them of that control over their sexuality. Equally as much, an incel as no control over his sexuality. He can't go and properly expression his sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/16 06:22 PM
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Im comparing the effects on sexuality, not emotional or physical damage.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/16 05:18 PM
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What laws would she be breaking if she didn't actually hurt you with the gun? Nearly all 50 states have laws preventing pointing guns at individuals for any reason, without even threatening to shoot them. http://www.leg.state.nv.us/NRS/NRS-202.html#NRS202Sec287 I mean, you don't have the freedom to hold guns at people as you choose. Police officers can legally apply deadly force to a standoff situation if they feel its needed.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/16 04:35 AM
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Wouldn't totally different appetites and views on sex cause problems in a relationship? It's similar to a couple where one loves to get drunk and the other doesn't drink.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/16 05:16 PM
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Ok so the best thing here is you should assume the girl has engaged in some sort of casual sex before.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/16 10:53 PM
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Does the man have a low N count because he didn't manage to get more or did he have no time because he was in long relationships/has high expectations of romance. Could be both. And is her N count high because she got played or did she just want to have fun? What does played mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/16 10:31 PM
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Creepy, threatening, scary, and or rapey behavior is still just that, no matter how hot I find the guy. a hot guy who forces himself on a woman without consent is still a rapist. Consent and creepiness are feelings, they are not actions. A guy can slap his girlfriends ass and if she loves it, and feels ok with it, she doesn't have to say anything. It's inly consensual, if she feels it's not consensual. That's where you make your mistake. Your phrasing consent in a way where men cans never make a…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/16 03:44 AM
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And for the men who act inappropriately (creepy, sexual assault), they blame the woman for their bad behavior. And this is how we have rape culture: a woman's clothing justifies rape. And there are plenty of men she can be fine with giving her sexual attention. This is a feminist fallacy that creepiness is tied to behavior, its tied to a man's attractiveness. a woman wont object to Justin Bieber or George Clooney hitting on them. She will invite you back to her place. She will hint and flirt and…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/16 03:59 PM
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what if it had to be another man, not you?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/16 05:59 PM
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The trainer is another man, not you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/16 05:58 PM
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To be fair here, i was thinking of this picture of steve cook, when i suggested him.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/16 05:00 PM
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Frat guys look like college athletes with normal college athlete body fat percentages. Yea, i think the issue i got caught up in was the muscularity, and not the body fat percentage. The cornell guys you posted are the type of body I am saying most girls would go gaga for. But i thought poopinmy bottom was saying girls don't like anymore than this which in my experience would be viewed as skinny by a lot of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/16 04:58 PM
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surveys are useless on this topic because women answer from saying what they want from a marriage or long term relationship, not casual sex or a ONS. Also, are you forgetting Zac Effron in that new movie he made? Do you know how many women went googoogaga over seeing him like that?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/16 03:44 PM
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Have you ever been to a frat house or frat party? Every single one of those guys is really muscular and has girls chasing after them. Look at athletes, guys on the football team for example. But are you talking about the low body fat or amount of muscle?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/16 03:34 PM
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That's what they want you to believe. Girls like big, shredded muscles, just not Ronny Coleman or jay cutler level. You should see the type of attention muscular guys get in day to day life.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/16 03:29 PM
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How would you determine or decide if she just genuinely wants training versus having some sexual interest in the guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/16 07:18 AM
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Systematic discrimination is a legalized standard of discrimination. You can say segregation, and denying women the right to vote is definitely systematic. But unless its written in a law, its by definition individual.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/16 07:24 PM
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So you believe that it's fine for a business owner to refuse to hire women? To refuse to hire African Americans? Why is the NBA 83% black? Why are they not hiring other races more often? You were just fired from a job because you were a woman. Wheres your proof of this? In a country you have to legally prove things, your feelings don't translate into facts because you want them to.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/16 07:23 PM
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When a minority group is discriminated against, what are their options if they cannot appeal to the government? It's called improving yourself and stop blaming others for your actions. Why do we have successful minority people that came from dirt poor backgrounds like Ben Carson? It's because they don't rob stores and do dum shit. All the Mexicans I know are extremely hard working people. They value family, rewards, and discipline.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/16 07:22 PM
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Incorrect, they both put people in harms way, disproving your argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/16 07:15 PM
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You example of stopping a car on the highway means you are putting someone in direct harm. Those are your actions that put the person in harms way. No, others peoples actions can directly influence your own actions. Transgenders have an extremely high rate of suicide, are you going to say it's entirely their own doing and not the constant ridicule and criticism they get from others?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/16 06:58 PM
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Are you trying to say the women he killed were at fault for not sleeping with him? The women are never at fault for not sleeping with him, as they don't any man anything. However, this doesn't mean the effect of not sleeping with someone is harmless. Everything we do can have some negative effect on someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/16 06:52 PM
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Blue balls does not count as putting someones life in danger. Did we forget about Elliott Rodger?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/16 05:18 PM
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People are allowed to back out whenever they want, for whatever reason. If you decide to turn off your car in the middle of the road and simply walk away from it, you will be punished by the law for obstructing traffic. Life is not this utopia of freedom you think it is buddy.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/16 04:56 PM
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So basically you are having a contract in which a person can rape you until you destroy the contract. The whole idea is you sign it when you simply are ok with having sex with this person. People, men or women, need to decide who they want to have sex with, and not back out of it in the middle. When you sign contracts to work for an employer, your not allowed to back out in the middle, or else you can get sued. Why is this any different?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/16 03:28 PM
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Marriage doesn't imply consent in the modern world.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/16 04:52 AM
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The whole idea is this. If there evolves a situation where physical force is used, she can report that, because its hence a scenario of violence, or sexual violence. However, she needs to report this right after it happens, not wait months like some girls do. Overall, I believe the previous FBI definition of rape, where force is used, is a much better definition. The current one, where consent is absent, can never be verified, as consent is a state of mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/16 10:57 PM
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The contract can't be withdrawn during sex. You would have to call up the station or go there to cancel it. If your consenting to sex with someone, you realistically need to be able to finish up. It's no different than someone giving you a ride in a car and suddenly saying get out of the car.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/16 10:55 PM
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But you're saying that this contract can be retracted at any time as well if the woman doesn't want it. It's basically meaningless. It would require a phone call if not a visit to some station. It can't be cancelled in the blink of an eye. Also, the other person on the contract is always notified, so the idea of consent can't be hidden when it's revoked.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/16 10:32 PM
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How about we simply put rapists in prison and when victims come foward How should we confirm someone is a rapist?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/16 10:31 PM
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no objections to this? First of all, there wouldn't be a need to use any guns because of the consensual contract. Second, I do have an issue because using a weapon or fire arm breaks other laws, which you will still be held accountable for.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/16 10:30 PM
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Then she can withdraw the contract. The whole idea is women should not be having sex with men unless they are absolutely sure they want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/16 09:13 PM
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Yes, holes will exist. But as of now, consent doesn't have a legal standard. There have even been some posts here about girls just saying yes to sex because they are afraid to say no. Having some contract, or standard of agreement, shrinks down the grey area.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/16 08:48 PM
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Well, thats why i am suggesting a contract for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/16 08:45 PM
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Whether a rape has occurred depends entirely on the state of mind of one person during intercourse. That's exactly the issue. Consent is a state of mind. However, having a contract to verify that is the only solid way of interpreting it legally. You can't have a legal event that can be retroactively revoked at any time. There needs to be evidence that the lack of consent was overcome with force.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/16 08:44 PM
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It's not a grey area at all. It's just reverting rape more back to the old definition, where force or threats are used to have sex. The issue with "consent" in modern terms is that it's not verifiable at all. There is no legal standard for it, since it can also be retracted at any time.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/16 08:42 PM
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you still have to have sex with them because you signed a contract? No, you do not have to have sex at all. You can resist and refuse sex. The idea is though, the woman cannot report rape or sexual assault for that person while the contract is intact. It will make the woman more aware of situations and more likely to run away.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/16 08:36 PM
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What do you mean? The idea is the person who she signs the contract with could never be convicted of rape while the contract is in place. anyone who doesn't have the contract would be put under suspicion
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/16 08:18 PM
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Add feeeeeeeemale and Terpers to the trigger words please.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/16 07:25 AM
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If you do some research, it's mostly targeted at men, as women are the primary reporters of sexual assault and rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/16 12:09 AM
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hmmm, ok. If a woman's looks never diminished, would you say a lot fewer women would settle down?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/16 09:11 PM
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Because sexual lust isn't a constant for us. It's only "important" if we're aroused or someone inspires it. But he is saying the same things you are. Female libido is very much opportunistic. It can stay low, until you meet a hot, sexy man, and it sky rockets.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/16 08:22 PM
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Well if thats an average woman can you blame TRP for wanting low N-counts? This sounds no different than the used car dealer not telling you all the problems with a car your buying.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/16 06:11 AM
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People who are only nice to those they have use for, but by contrast very unpleasant toward people they don't, are not nice people. This covers a great portion of self described "nice guys". You are implying that people should continue to be nice, despite being possibly hurt by rejection. This is the definition of entitlement. Your saying someone needs to always be nice if they want to be nice, hence others are somehow automatically deserving of that niceness.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/16 01:15 AM
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Something very interesting not brought up yet is toward the end of the thread when she isn't sure what to do, she never suggests or asks if she should do anal with her current BF anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/16 03:01 PM
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Not all hot guys are marriage material.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/16 02:45 PM
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I can smell the jealousy in this a mile away. You are making an anti-correlation. Ultimately, a Chad will attain some sort of status and resources because he is a Chad. Doesn't mean rich, but in some way he makes it to the top of his social circle. It's an effect.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/16 08:04 AM
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Your saying that, if one passes some bar of attractiveness, then no one far above that bar poses a threat to them. I disagree. People always look near the best available to them. If someone owns multiple, half million dollar sports cars, do you think you could sell them on a 325i BMW? A typical, 30k car?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/16 08:00 AM
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Not dreamy handsome, but he has the extreme confidence look in his eyes
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/16 07:58 AM
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no amount of 6'10 guys with a greek god face are a threat Do you think you could sell a BMW to a guy who owns three Ferrari's?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/16 07:32 AM
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Funny, a lot of the posters here are saying "What kind of girl likes guys over 6'5""? Underestimating what a chad is...
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/16 07:30 AM
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Yea, I agree with you, this poster your responding to is in lala land. That last picture you posted looks like fucking super man. This is the chad poster boy for TRP. Holy crap, how is this even a debate? BTw, i only linked it several times as its an edit to the OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/16 07:26 AM
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Yea like I said the first dude isnt chad, he gets the left overs from this guy, just like he said. If you got a used Bugatti Veyron that Bill Gates drove for a year as a gift, would you be complaining?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/16 07:23 AM
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However I'd still choose the girl with one partner.If she was the one who left him and she didn't get dumped. What if you didn't know this information?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/16 07:22 AM
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Well Zac Efron is on another level, super-chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/16 07:21 AM
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Lol And Shipman isn't even one of the good ones! The former Mr. Basketball in the Sunshine State, averaged just 12 minutes a game for the Gators and is transferring to another program to get more playing time. Shipman gets more than 60 female friend requests a day on Facebook. "If they fit the part, I would send them a message and see where that goes." He would keep 5-to-10 girls on the hook at time and pass off the others to teammates. http://deadspin.com/5518238/ex-florida-gator-would-like-you…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/16 06:07 AM
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Have you met someone who is 6'10 before? Yes I have, at my university, and at any time they have about 2-3 hot girls hanging out with them, tailing them around. They can literally walk into a frat party they get into and walk out with any girl they want. I think your projecting now.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/16 05:49 AM
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Uh, 6'10", over 200 pounds, on the top college basketball team in the country? Do you know what kind of fame these guys have?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/16 05:43 AM
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Played in 23 games … averaged 1.2 points and 2.0 rebounds in 7.0 minutes per game … Lol, but he is 6'10", 210 pounds, on one of the top college basketball teams in the country, this is literally textbook chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/16 05:42 AM
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Ok, so in that case, assuming your also yourself not a 6'10" guy and a college b baller, would you be concerned that you wouldn't satisfy her sexually? Or more specifically, how would you check on those fears/possibilities?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/16 05:33 AM
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To clarify the chad guy for the N-count 1 girl i have in mind is this guy http://www.uclabruins.com/ViewArticle.dbml?ATCLID=210250788&DB_OEM_ID=30500
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/16 05:30 AM
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No, i believe initially women have a base line level of attractiveness, but it's not going to be that high if she's a virgin. A lot of sexual preferences are enabled. The reason some girls only like guys with big dicks, is well because, they have had sex with guys with big dicks. Same could go for really tall men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/16 05:30 AM
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To clarify the chad guy i have in mind is someone like this http://www.uclabruins.com/ViewArticle.dbml?ATCLID=210250788&DB_OEM_ID=30500
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/16 05:28 AM
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If the latter involved this guy http://www.uclabruins.com/ViewArticle.dbml?ATCLID=210250788&DB_OEM_ID=30500 would you still pick that girl?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/16 05:27 AM
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I've known several people (both men and women) who were athletes in college at large universities. For this case though, I am not talking about guys who would just be on the golf team or something. I am talking like a point guard on the pac-12 Basketball team. http://www.uclabruins.com/ViewArticle.dbml?ATCLID=210250788&DB_OEM_ID=30500
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/16 05:26 AM
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To clarify, the N count of 1 girl would have been with a guy like this: http://www.uclabruins.com/ViewArticle.dbml?ATCLID=210250788&DB_OEM_ID=30500 Sure you still want to pick her?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/16 05:25 AM
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cornered by hypergamy in the flesh on one side and alpha widow on the other? Why is the 5 dudes in the flesh hypergamy? To clarify, with the alpha dude, i really mean more of a chad, as in a guy like this: http://www.uclabruins.com/ViewArticle.dbml?ATCLID=210250788&DB_OEM_ID=30500
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/16 05:24 AM
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But they don't. Complimenting lightly yes, but hitting without knowing the girl? That's not a nice guy then, and were shifting to some other type of guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/16 03:38 PM
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If he didn't express that rage toward the woman it doesn't count, read the post. Elliott Rodger was actually a super nice doormat at first, but once poured coffee and pushed a girl who rejected him.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/16 03:35 PM
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Also knew a guy who was very nice and I rejected and afterwards entirely ignored me, often in a very rude manner. I suppose he sort of fits the bill. That definitely does not fit the bill. Simply ignoring someone is a normal behavior after rejection. I am talking about lashing out in an angry way. a push over who eventually grew into an asshole since he started to get more attention from girls and became more confident. No surprises there, girls do like assholes.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/16 06:38 AM
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Men would randomly hit on me, By randomly hit, do you mean to see you, go up to you and say "hey beautiful", or "You look damn good in that dress"?? Or do you mean just ask out. They do the latter, not the former.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/16 12:54 AM
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All people have some sort of reactionary phase initially to negative circumstances. See the 5 stages of grieving http://grief.com/the-five-stages-of-grief/ I am saying feeling anger toward the employer, not communicating it to them in anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/16 12:51 AM
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Ok, so as i thought, that is just a normal guy who gets angry. Nice Guys do not hit on women directly like that, they would think such an action is not nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/16 12:42 AM
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Thats a perfectly normal reaction. If you hold the door open for someone usually, but that person never does anything nice for you, then they will probably stop holding the door open. Part of the point of being kind is getting kindness back in return.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/16 12:41 AM
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Simply stopping favors or being nice to the girl doesn't count for this, just to clarify. Has to be actual lashing out directly.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/16 12:34 AM
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But if a guy just has his own feelings, isn't that his own business how he reacts to things? I mean, I have seen nice guys, like the super nice, pushover one's, get rejected from jobs, and feeling anger towards the employer, but never did anything toward them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/16 12:33 AM
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To me it would seem like 1 is just a ruse/facade if 2 occurs. What I am saying is, usually when people claim NiceGuy TM, its just a guy who was rather normal and pleasant or just not a jerk first, but not a supplicating, clingy nice guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/16 12:31 AM
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xxFP I know thinks it's "marginalizing" and therefore "problematic" or "wrong" to reduce human behavior to exploitable generalizations, especially in the realm of sexuality. It's a form of political correctness. You don't want to associate X trait with Y, because your afraid the people with X will have their feelings hurt.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/16 06:07 PM
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Rejection hurts, but it's no reason to criticize someone who rejected you over something they can't control. Girls talk shit about asshole dudes that don't commit to them all the time. Somebody posted here a 3000 word essay written by a UC Berkeley girl of why this guy she hooked up with from a frat doesn't call her back her take her out. Also, we entirely choose who we date and fuck. It's called sexual consent.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/16 05:41 PM
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unwarranted hostility and cruelty. You are going to have to give an example of what your talking about here, as the only examples of this I have seen or heard of is where the guy simply stops talking to the girl or just stops doing nice things with her, and the girl interprets this as hostility.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/16 05:34 PM
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The idea of the nice guy tm is a flawed, unrealistic character that is heavily pushed by BP and feminists. First of all, there are lots of other guys that approach girls only wanting sex, and nobody is hating on them. Girls accept NSA sex all the time. Second, to expect that a nice guy will still be nice after facing rejection is unrealistic. Rejection is a hurtful experience, for anyone. No one should be expected to keep giving after being hurt. Man or woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/16 02:52 PM
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It's not naivity so much, but rather a form of sugar coating and rationalization. For example, a common reason girl go with bad boys is that they think they can be the one that tames him into being a good boy for her. This situation is the reverse of that. The man is under some idea he can tame out the wild, crazy parts of this girl, and get her to just be sexy and slutty for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/16 07:23 PM
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Because it exactly fits every point TRP states about AFBB, which is rare for it to be so spot on. Woman has flings and lots of sex with alphas in her youth ---> Woman was playmate, had tons of sex in the mansion, and outside it. Additionally is a major party girl with drug and alcohol abuse. Woman settles down with beta, big bucks guys ---> the playmate settled down with a software engineer earning big bucks Woman cheats on him with alpha guys after marrying Woman leaves the software engineer in…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/16 09:01 PM
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This would never happen because you are ignoring the principle of manipulation. Manipulation is used when one person covertly wants something someone else has, and wants to get that something, based on doing for that person. HOWEVER the important aspect here is without the manipulation, the manipulator can't otherwise get what they want from the person. For a manipulator to be manipulated by the person they are manipulating, it would mean the manipulated person wants something from the manipulat…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/16 07:16 PM
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No it's not that black and white. It works off a practical purpose, not a pre-meditated, planned out purpose. For example, a woman in her youth might have a fling with an amazingly attractive boxer. She literally gets wet just looking at him. A very intense lust. However, this man, doesn't want to commit to her, doesn't want a family, doesn't want to be the dad type, etc, or might not be financially stable etc. So what happens is that the woman seeks out a more educated, stable, and higher earni…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/16 07:08 PM
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Simply approaching does not mean one is sexually aggressive. More confident women are more at ease getting the attention of attractive men. However, regardless of the woman, they derive the bulk of pleasure and validation through the male being aggressive towards them. A lot of women expect the man to kiss them first, or to make the move to undress her, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/16 07:02 PM
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If one doesn't want to be with a woman with a high n-count, it's making a sweeping claim about them. Either your ok with that, or your not.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/16 06:48 AM
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i don't see anyone objecting to the idea of any men preferring non-promiscuous women. get a grip. There are literally hundreds of threads like this about bpers thinking its wrong to not get with women based on their sexual past.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/16 06:41 AM
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why does the context have to be gendered? there are men and women in college alike who sleep around, i dont give a shit about that Because the converse, where women use male prostitutes, doesn't really exist and hasn't been brought up here.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/16 06:32 AM
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Yeah even though women aren't actively fighting it it's rape if they aren't consenting to the sex. That's false, because consent is not always established at the time of intercourse. For example, I could go over to my girlfriend and just slap her ass, and she could look at me and giggle. In her head, she is consenting to this, because i have done it before and she has liked it. Conversely, a girl can equally say yes to sex because she is afraid of saying no. Consent is a mental state, not a spok…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/16 07:58 PM
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http://kulturekritic.com/2015/10/news/new-depressing-study-shows-how-terrified-white-people-are-of-black-sounding-names/ Regarding this most recent study, Holbrook states, “The amount that our study participants assumed based only on a name was remarkable. A character with a black-sounding name was assumed to be physically larger, more prone to aggression, and lower in status than a character with a white-sounding name.”
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/16 07:16 PM
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Bullshit. She needs to say, "Excuse me," and get out of there. If he doesn't move, her feelings have been validated, and a good swift kick to the balls is probably in order. Your reading into a situation what you want to read into it, not what a wrote. I said standing near a door, and in this case, the woman is presuming that man is suddenly going to block the door. Every woman has a story about being trapped at some point in her life with a pervert. Nice generalizing there. What else do you kno…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/16 06:40 PM
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Likewise if he's refusing to move out of a doorway he is again showing that he's a creep, escalating the situation, and is potentially dangerous It was never specified in the thread that i linked this was in fact what she meant. It sounds a lot more like a guy simply acting weird in general and standing near a door, which is not potentially dangerous. The situation I just described is where someone has demonstrated they are creepy and potentially dangerous, certainly not someone you would ever w…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/16 06:19 PM
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So if a girl you know came up to you and said "Fuck, this guy on the bus was so creepy! He just kept staring and it scared me." Great job not reading my post. I clearly stated the issue is not creepiness, but the drawing of a conclusion between someone being generally weird and being a rapist, or better put, drawing a possibility of forced sex from completely and utterly non-sexual scenarios. Its no different than someone assuming a black guy has a gun on him because he is black. Also, I'm guess…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/16 06:01 PM
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The vast majority of all BPers always side with women in any argument here. That's a very feminist approach. Was she too drunk? Yes! Does her changing her mind about sex count as consent? No! This is a dumb post. Your somehow trying to say BP isn't BP, and appear butt hurt in doing so.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/16 02:51 PM
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i think I need you to answer a very important question. If you and me were in a shopping mall, and all of a sudden I saw a black guy with some bling on his neck, and told you I think for sure he is going to rob a store, would you think I was paranoid? No one's feelings can change what goes on in the real world. Only observations can validate things. Just because someone says something does not mean it's true or real. Your essentially saying every concern a woman has should be taken as valid, mea…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/16 08:55 AM
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I think by high they are probably referring to 20-25 and up, at which point its extremely likely a chunk of that is at least hookups or fwbs, by about the age of 25-27.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/16 06:46 AM
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I think your over complicating it, and it should be basic knowledge that it goes like this. If someone in a relationship, feels that they deserve someone better than their current partner, they are likely to, or open to cheating.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/16 06:43 AM
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Your post completely discredits her valid concerns as hysteria. A person doesn't get to decide if a concern is valid. Feelings can't change real world facts. Just because a woman feels someone standing by the door might lock and rape her, doesn't mean anything. Unless that man is showing some form of anger, or aggression, her suspicion is paranoia. Any psychologist would diagnose her with anxiety and prescribe her adequate medication.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/16 06:39 AM
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Males comic book heroes/video game characters are rarely in sexualized clothing (to get a sense of sexualized male clothing, have a look at gay porn). Dwayne Johnson, Zach Effron, the male actors keep getting more muscular. What planet are you living on? looks more like slut shaming (which doesn't exist for men). LOL Leonardo Dicaprio gets shamed by many female celebs.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/16 03:34 AM
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an uncontrollable outburst of emotion or fear, often characterized by irrationality, http://www.dictionary.com/browse/hysteria Try again.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/16 03:26 AM
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When someone is afraid of flying, the idea of being locked in a plane that's flying miles above the ground is in itself a worrisome situation. That's the basis of anxiety. You can't attribute odd behavior in people to potential actions, unless they are logically related. Again, we aren't talking about being afraid of someone because they are weird. if someone is angry, has fists clenched, or is shouting at other people, that's a reasonable connection as anger is connected to uncontrolled actions…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/16 12:40 AM
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Right, people do have creepy vibes. But in the comment i liked, i am talking about cases where creepy is autolinked with "gonna lock the door and rape me"
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/16 12:13 AM
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What you are describing is again, paranoia and hysteria. Unless you have a reasonable suspicion that someone is planning, or intends to commit a crime, any such accusations against that individual are ludicrous. If i told you, that guy over there in the corner has a mustache and is german, he is talking in an angry voice.... HE MUST BE A NAZI IN DISGUISE!!!! Does that sound logical to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/16 12:04 AM
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with the goal of not dying or being harmed in mind... i don't think it's crossing the line to be suspicious of someone acting suspiciously. The issue is suspicious is being changed to relate to someone's feeling, rather than what a person is actually doing. You cannot generalize suspicious behavior. It's no different than assuming the black-criminal stereotypes. Additionally, assuming a plane is going to crash just because your afraid of flying isn't a reasonable assumption.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/16 11:59 PM
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oh, you can't know that. and i doubt it. like i said, it impacts some people, and not others. Unless there is a law or real world decision or action, it doesn't. For example, every catholic girl I know growing up with catholic fathers all went sex crazy and had all the sex they wanted when they got to college. There are no concrete examples of women being legally prevented from being promiscuous.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/16 11:56 PM
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it's like pro-life vs. pro-choice; everyone has an opinion, and it's one or the other. i'd imagine the responses would be pretty evenly mixed, at that. The issue with your argument is your equating what someone thinks in their head to shaming, and your equating shaming to have a default real world impact. People can think and say things all the time, but unless it has a real world impact on what people get to do or not get to do, it's something people just have to tolerate. You brought up the ab…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/16 10:13 PM
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Whenever i go to them there is about 1:1 ratio of women to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/16 08:18 PM
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Where are these people slut shamming women in rea life ?honestly this doesn't stop women from going out and having a great time being promiscuous. Look at frat parties, they encourage females to be promiscuous. Look at night clubs, giving free admission to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/16 05:32 PM
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You have no clue what your talking about. Japan has been a sexually liberated country for much longer Than most other parts of the world. Tokyo has the biggest sex fetish market in the entire world. Have you ever been there? Do you know how many men love school girl culture? And how popular it is. Do you know it's really never been a sin to have sex before marriage there ?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/16 04:55 PM
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But in reality who actually does this outside of old white Christian males? I mean women are not criticized as sluts inside the hook up culture, or else there wouldn't be a gigantic hookup culture on college campuses
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/16 04:52 PM
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But the issue is women are never criticized for purely wanting sex, as in just using men for sex. This is an inequality
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/16 03:39 PM
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You say this Creepy is the feeling a guy gives you when he doesn't respect boundaries, won't take no for an answer, doesn't stop to find out how you feel about his behavior. But then you say this Maybe he has a staring gaze or stranger mannerisms that makes him appear menacing. Keep in mind that rape itself tends to be about power and control, not about sexual intercourse. Who cares if he's cute or not, if he's saying odd things and standing in the doorway that's the only way out of a room. You …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/16 12:52 AM
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All people objectify everyone else. Anytime you look at a woman and imagine doing sexual things to her, that is sexual objectification. Anytime a woman looks at a man and imagines cuddling with him in bed naked, thats sexual objectification. Try again.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/16 10:30 PM
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The issue is your comparing across different types of men and women. The OP is most likely referring to within specific categories. You were better at attracting ambitious men then your two friends. For example, it's common that a lot of Asian girls like white guys. When I went to Japan and Hong Kong, this benefitted me a shit ton, because the number of asian girls who want white guys vastly, vastly, outnumbered the amount of tall white guys available for them. However, in the states, this effec…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/16 10:28 PM
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Your using the exact same type of thinking as TRP is. Don't try to act morally superior.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/16 10:23 PM
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Your taking two single incidents, out of the millions and billions of times men have been rejecting, and labeling it a legitimate concern. If this is the case, it's no different than saying if one girl with blonde hair cheated, and its a legitimate concern that all of them could cheat. This is the problem with BP thinking, you have no concept of statistics or likelihood. Just because one traffic light malfunctions and turns pink instead of green, doesn't mean they teach you in driving school how…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/16 08:25 PM
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If I gave you a news article about a guy who died after taking an Advil, and he wasn't even allergic to them, would you still take advil after that? What your doing is no different than TRP's AWALT
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/16 06:57 PM
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Yea, of course there is jazz clubs and Latin music clubs, but the majority of the time, a girl will say she loves to go to music clubs, or Latin clubs, of that's the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/16 04:57 PM
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That's a blatant indicator of casual sexual activity or the desire for it. Conservative women do not dress that way not get overly drunk. Who do you think is more sexual, the party girl, or the nerdy girl who spends her spare time doing computer science projects?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/16 03:31 PM
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Every girl who goes to a nightclub understands she is putting herself in a sexual atmosphere.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/16 03:17 PM
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Women in clubs have their tits and ass hanging out of short dresses. Clubs are the prime places people go for casual sex. It's something called likelihood.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/16 03:14 PM
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There is absolutely no way to tell 100% of a woman wants to be approached.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/16 03:13 PM
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Women by default aren't sexually aggressive. Hundreds of studies show women majorly prefer being sexually aubmissive. Even feminists acknowledge this. If they didn't, they wouldn't push toxic masculinity as a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/16 02:56 PM
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My question here is, in many other countries and cultures, being kind to strangers is much more common place. What has led you to assume random platonic kindness is associated with sexual interest?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/16 07:56 AM
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Well technically in no feminist countries like Japan or China you don't really have creep shamming. I mean, men and women even bathe together. I get what your saying, but I think the over pronounced instances of creep shaming are promoted by rape hysteria.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/16 07:54 AM
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Yes, because the BP seems to think women prefer virgins and have no issue with male inexperience.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/16 07:02 PM
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I don't believe you are wrong, in fact I incorporate many of those things in my life today. I am just pointing out there is a shitload of difference in mindset that a virgin guy will have approaching women at age 21+ then a guy with an N count of 2-3
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/16 06:43 PM
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Yea. People don't even comprehend the immense opportunities available to most women for casual sex. This one girl I slept with literally had a directory of 10 guys from the gym or she met at the beach that she could cal if she wanted to fuck around.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/16 04:01 PM
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It only becomes rarer if it's stopped and not enabled. If the parents reward that behavior by saying she is a strong woman in training, she will definitely continue that behavior in adulthood.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/16 03:47 PM
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Well that guy didn't care that he didn't ever have a girlfriend. He was secure with who he was, he was proud of who he was. So when he talked to women, he was confident. But then it doesn't really matter. He is confident, in the presence of women, but not confident toward them AKA, bold enough with them to get them to want to sleep with him. I used to be very confident with women about my programming abilities, and gladly helped answer any questions they had on homework or their computers. Didn'…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/16 07:56 PM
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Hmm, this is an interesting example. However, I believe its not a valid comparison to a virgin man for a number of reasons. Roger, or athletes that have never done a 4 minute mile, have practiced running tremendously before, and have experienced tons of physical conditioning, training, and coaching. They have a lot of positive milestones to fall back on and think about that motivates them. A virgin man, ideally one that is 21 or over, has absolutely no practice or milestones being with women in …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/16 06:01 PM
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I spent a lot of time training myself to be less afraid of girls before I ever actually got laid, primarily by exposing myself to that failure. Think about what your saying though. In your case, your becoming confident about talking to girls or facing rejection. Your doing this by acquiring the experience of being rejected, hence as you said exposing yourself to it. This is just another version of what I am saying. You would not be confident about facing rejection if you had never experienced it…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/16 05:56 PM
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Plus, you think all male virgins weren't confident with women when they first lost it? Of course not. Maybe they weren't confident in their sexual prowess, but that's a very different question that "confident with woman" in general. Bare in mind, although I should made this more clear, I am really more talking about male virgins at the age of 20-21 and up. Not guys who are cocky and losing it at 16 because they are on the basketball or football team. I am referring to men who have stayed virgins…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/16 04:57 PM
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He seemed completely comfortable with me being there and was completely relaxed in talking back to me. What on earth does this have to do with actually getting women on dates and having sex with them? What do you mean by comfortable? When I was a virgin, I once went through a period where i got rejected close to 100 times by many different girls. Honestly after that, I had no feeling in me about succeeding with women. If I had 100 failures and 0 successes, what is there to believe i won't fail a…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/16 03:59 PM
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There was a thread somewhere I saw the other day about an anesthesiologist who was always calm and collected regardless of the situation. I don't think an anesthesiologist is a good example without more context of the situation, because a doctor is a highly trained medical professional, that has taken thousands of hours of courses, training, and labs to properly understand medical situations. An anesthesiologist in particular has to deal with extremely stressful situations as they bring patients…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/16 06:32 AM
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You can absolutely be confident in aspects of your life you haven't achieved in yet. If you're successful in one area, why not the other? Would you feel confident giving legal advice if you aren't a lawyer? Would you feel confident taking a final on a college computer science course if you haven't studied for it? The answer is going to be no. If you have x and y abilities, why not z abilities? Sure it may not always work, you need to be realistic about it, but confidence isn't tied to a particul…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/16 06:29 AM
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but it only took a couple successes to become real confidence that then grew with every subsequent conquest Exactly. I am not saying a man needs like 10 or 15 girls to feel confident about women, but definitely minimum 1 if not 2 or 3.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/16 06:19 AM
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A man attains more confidence from being punched in the face and realizing that a punch in the face isn't all that bad, than you will from listening to women beat their gums together. Being punched in the face is an experience, and realizing that punch isn't all the bad is a positive experience. You are hence gaining the right experience, positive experience, to develop confidence. Once you've learned, your worldview changes. Other challenges, including talking to women, seems pretty trivial by …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/16 06:18 AM
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Right. It's not a death sentence, but the point is there isn't a way around it in terms of gaining sexual confidence. There are only boosts and small bypasses. Also, relevant article http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2013/01/study-how-we-lose-our-virginity-shapes-our-entire-sexual-life/272596/
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/16 01:15 AM
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And it's inaccurate. Wrong. Studies show that early sexual experience, in men and even women, produce more confidence and self esteem later on. http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2013/01/study-how-we-lose-our-virginity-shapes-our-entire-sexual-life/272596/ CONCLUSION: "These results suggest that one's first-time sexual experience is more than just a milestone in development," wrote the authors. "Rather, it appears to have implications for their sexual well-being years later."
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/16 01:14 AM
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Do you believe this to be a redpill or anti-redpill opinion? To me it's half and half. It's half anti-RP because it goes against their pushing of the whole "plating women" idea, because in reality this is very hard to do if were talking about a guy starting with little to no experience with women. However, it aligns with RP because it acknowledges the idea of why more sexually experienced men attract and do better with women. It's anti-BP because I am saying that virgin men are at a complete dis…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/16 12:59 AM
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Ok, I agree that a man changing his appearance can help, as appearance is in a different domain as a man's confidence and can work on it's own to attract women. If you can tell a woman is attracted to your appearance, this is another bypass for having low confidence. However, another side to this is it's much easier to deal with rejection by having previous success than it is without. For example, lets say we have had a guy who has slept with 8 women. If he gets rejected by a woman, he can refer…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/16 12:55 AM
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You just acknowledged the term leader......
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/16 04:15 PM
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are you saying leaders and followers don't exist?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/16 03:44 PM
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they cannot debate as they are not talking about the same things. When TRP says most men don't get laid, they actually mean most men can't get a ONS from a hot girl. While the BP interprets not getting laid as being an incel.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/16 06:54 AM
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In America, the 1% is at $396,000, and 20% of the population earns more than $100,000.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/16 03:53 AM
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http://deadspin.com/5518238/ex-florida-gator-would-like-you-to-know-how-easy-it-is-for-athletes-to-get-laid Not my hangups, its facts.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/16 03:52 AM
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Well, no. But the issue is TBP has a very low threshold of success compared to tRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/16 01:48 AM
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if you don't make $1,000,000 a year (and there are probably more men making $1,000,000 a year than men who could and would do what you describe I think this shows you don't go to parties or night clubs or knew any athlete guys in college. I would say its more like earning $230,000 a year, about where the top 5% are.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/16 01:45 AM
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Worse as BP seem to think "science" supports them. When they provide evidence, you look at the evidence and raise some valid points... well you're bias because science is an absolute right? My issue more so is that, the BP seems to not accept majority preferences in certain places and scenarios. Example, the gym I go to. The trend I always see, in the gym, is that, the muscular guys have the best looking girls with them. Thus, I believe that being muscular in the gym is a huge attraction plus fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/16 12:49 AM
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Yes, both aren't ideal, but I think about it this way. Say you knew someone that was going to dropout of college. A generalization says, people who drop out of college will not do as well financially as those who stay in college. This is true for the vast majority. An exception says, oh hey, you know Steve Jobs did just fine dropping out of college, what are you worried about?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/16 05:12 PM
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this is about TBP, not TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/16 06:31 AM
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So if TRP believes nice guys always are unattractive and TBP brings up specific situations where this isn't true, you take issue with that? No. What I have an issue with is that arguing an exceptional situation, as no more efficient than another way of being. It's the denial of any possible winning way. Many BPers downright disagree that ripped, fit guys on average do better with women than skinny guys, for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/16 05:23 AM
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No. TBP is a satire sub. We expose ourselves to outliers on purpose. Those outliers are you guys. People who disagree in TBP with the members get banned from it. RPers get banned from TBP. They are not open to outliers This is a strawman. We don't deal in absolutes, we are not TRP. We deal in possibilities. BPers outright deny that any portion of TRP is actually effective or helps men get laid. They do not consider TRP concepts a possibility at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/16 02:06 AM
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RPers aren't exposed to outliers and minorities outside of their sub, it's an echo chamber. And then they come here and run their mouths about how literally (but not actually literally) all women are a certain way because of their raging confirmation bias. My point is TBP is exactly like this, and absolutely no different. TBP is an echo chamber. TBP says all men can get laid easily, even if they are fat nerds. They have a confirmation bias where anytime they spot a girl liking a guy who is nice …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/16 01:50 AM
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This isn't representing the sexy nerd as a majority, it's representing him as a possibility, in response to a blanket claim that it's not a possibility. When you debate, you have to have a threshold of what one thinks as reasonable and unreasonable. It's silly to think of everything as a reasonable. For example, let's say you have a specific college campus, and through some means, we find out 95% of the girls said they don't find nerds sexy while 5% said they do. Most guys, would consider that b…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/16 01:30 AM
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Well, I believe the best answer is that they cannot really be friends. The man wants more, the woman wants to be friends. What will happen is a relationship where one side is fulfilled, and the other is not.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/16 12:33 AM
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All humans can't help but stereotype. Why are you generalizing?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/16 05:31 PM
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Is you're view based on tinder, FB, and other online forums alone? The part about mentioning my working with computers tidbit is from real life conversations. so idk maybe you're chatting up the wrong women? It pretty much occurs with any woman, one's in yoga class, the gym, the park, the coffee shop, other women in my company, hair salon, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/16 07:44 AM
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I wouldn't say women are passing judgment about you sexually when you mention your career so much as they are coming to the conclusion that you and they might not have much to talk about. it's tough to keep a conversation going with someone who you have 0 shared life experience with, even if they're smoking hot. In my view it's not so much about common interests but more so about statistical reasoning. If in the combination of a woman's experience, and her friends experiences, it so happens that…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/16 07:40 AM
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Based on my personal observations, anytime I have mentioned I work as a software engineer, or computer programmer, in the first conversation with a girl, their interest quickly fades. I have tried saying it in different ways, and presenting it differently. Yields the same result.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/16 07:35 AM
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Are you sure it's what you say and not how you say it? If you are insecure about it she will notice that by the way you talk and if you do something you aren't proud of that's unattractive. I have tried saying it in all kinds of ways. Yields the same result. I can sense how their energy changes and their eye contact towards me starts drifting away after I bring it up in any way. However, the catch is, if I bring it up later on, as in after making out or sex has occurred, the response is actually…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/16 07:32 AM
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Basically he's saying CMV: surfer guys do better with women than computer nerds. Not really. The issue is, i'm not a "surfer guy", i'm just a guy who has tried surfing twice and took a picture of himself doing so. I don't have the status or a reputation of a surfer guy. No competitions. This leads to believe, girls use certain indicates to judge or assume if a guy will provide sexual pleasure, before they really give him a chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/16 02:55 AM
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Being a software engineer is unattractive to EVERYONE Ah, but there is a catch to this. If I mention my career after we have had sex, then its not a turn off to them. They say things like "Gee I didn't think you were working as an engineer".
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/16 02:48 AM
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But the issue is my appearance does not change in whether I mention it in the first 1-2 conversations or not. I have thought about this. I wear the same clothes, same cologne, same sunglasses. But there are dramatic differences.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/16 02:46 AM
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Or how you are going about presenting it. Hmmmm. What I have done before is talk about the wonders of the world, kind of like a deep, intriguing talk thats free spirited. I do talk about how technology as changed the way we think and the world we live in, in an eloquent manner. The above seems to work, but I still avoid bringing up the fact that I do computers in relation to my career.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/16 02:45 AM
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But that's a poor analogy, as physically nothing about me in either instance is that different. Whether I mention my computer career in the first conversation or not, has me wearing very similar clothing and the type of cologne I use.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/16 02:42 AM
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Are you sure you aren't just letting the conversation drop after mentioning your career? I personally would have little to say in response to the simple fact of your career aside from "Oh, that's cool". See, the catch is, if I mention the fact I work with computers after some intimacy, or sex has occurred with the girl, they are actually impressed by it. They say things like "Wow, you actually know how to make computer programs?? That stuff is so complicated". This leads me to believe that this …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/16 01:30 AM
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Where did I say anything about clothes?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/16 01:28 AM
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A woman who cheats is leaning toward cheating anyway; the alcohol/drugs just gives her that little extra push to do what she already decided to do anyway. Yes, but thats the point. She is leaning towards cheating, and some things can push her to cheating. TBP seems to think that either A) a woman is 100% satisfied with her relationship and won't cheat no matter what happens, or B) A woman is unsatisfied, and will cheat no matter where she goes, or what she or you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/16 09:03 PM
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Even if she doesn't want to cheat she will get hit on all the time which increases her chance of cheating Well this is majorly true. think about it this way. Take a teenager, and ask him if he would ever try coke. He says no. Offer him some coke, several times a day, you might get a different answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/16 05:59 PM
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Ok but let's take your situation here. Were you happy with your gf? Do you like your relationship with her? Would you have chosen differently if your gf was treating you poorly and not the way you wanted?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/16 05:09 PM
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The question is not if it's accidental, or if it's justified. The point is, all people, have different levels of probability of cheating. It's not either someone will never cheat, or someone is going to cheat no matter what. Relationships exist in degrees of strength. Some relationships are super strong, some are medium strength, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/16 05:06 PM
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they're trying to shift responsibility for their disrespectful choices from themselves to outside influences. However, the cheater had direct control over whether they indulged. All behaviors are in enabled in thought. The exact decision is in our control, yes. But outside influences definitely enable or disable decision making processes. Extreme or unusual circumstances do effect this. Here is a perfect example, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwxbbfP34eo A woman, who was a white house intern, …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/16 03:25 AM
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Correct, but the issue is people are thinking x, in this case cheating, is either a probability of 0, or probability of 1. Either a woman will cheat, regardless of where she goes, or she won't cheat. I am saying that, there is actually a whole scale of probabilities that must be considered.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/16 02:54 AM
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people who indulge in it already disrespect their partner. How do we know this? Why is not possible that a woman or a man, could just be mesmerized by a sexually attractive individual in a club, and in combination with alcohol and loud music, simply decide at that moment to do something they hadn't before? Why do you think people always have full 100% thought out decisions?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/16 02:49 AM
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People have the freedom of concern. They don't have to be concerned with every facet of their actions. It's like girls who go crazy in college and fuck loads and loads of guys. They are choosing not to be concerned with the moral components of sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/16 04:48 PM
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This question is about how women define masculinity.... Holy crap you can't change how people think. It's entirely to do with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/16 02:32 PM
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I cut it off there because the difference in average physical attractiveness between women and men is much, much more noticeable. The hot women stand out much less at 33 then they do at 23, amongst men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/16 05:14 PM
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Everything in the entire world is dependent on how people act. It's internal because she is choosing whether or not to accept that reaction as something she wants or not. You can never live in a world where people don't react to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/16 05:11 PM
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No I think it is not true for most women of most men. At least the infamous OKC study backs me up. What backs you up? She is using attractive as not meaning sexually appealing, just "attractive in general". Basically a meaningless definition. In this case fat guys and smelly guys are attractive too.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/16 12:54 AM
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If you take attractiveness to mean so general, then sure, and most women are attracted to most men. But most men would prefer to have sex only with the most attractive portion of women, and most women would only prefer to have sex with the most attractive men. Attractive only, or should only relate to what someone finds sexually appealing. If it's used for anything else, it loses all meaning.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/16 12:53 AM
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A girl does not need to be sociable to get laid. Guys approach shy girls all the time. A girl can stand in the middle of a gym in a revealing outfit and get tons of male attention, without being sociable.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/16 10:37 PM
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It doesn't change how willing and eager I am to sleep with someone. No it's the intention behind it. If your dying your hair blonde, wearing tons of eye make up, and little clothing to appear more like a sex object, you are slutty. Google bimbofication, it's more what I am talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/16 08:57 PM
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I think I get your point, but my point is that, even for the girls that don't have hotness, lots of people underestimate their SMV. Shy, cute girls are none the less still though of as attractive by a vast majority of men. Shy, cute guys are much less sought after.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/16 08:45 PM
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It also includes makeup and dyed hair? If the make up and dyed hair is meant to have a sexualized, or bimbo like appearance, then yes. A woman dying hair to avoid aging doesn't really apply, but an asian girl dying her hair blonde to be more sexy does.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/16 08:43 PM
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Only the 9's and 10's could get sex with the ease that Red Pillers talk about despite personality/social handicaps. No way. There were tons of promiscuous girls I knew in college that were between 5-6, but they were very outgoing and loved to dress with basically wearing nothing. You do have a point about the shyness factor though.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/16 07:17 PM
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Some people are hysterical and thinking a woman being called exotic is hurting her feelings. It's called political correctness
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/16 09:06 AM
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The reasons are tired into the men and how they would react. But the key I am pointing out here is the woman is making a choice for the possible effect. Another woman, for example, might like as much male attention as possible, and be totally open her promiscuity. See, some feminists or others say if slut shaming didn't exist, women wouldn't hide their sexual past, but I disagree with this.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/16 10:05 PM
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I have NEVER ONCE seen a post about a girl saying that she was uncomfortable with her boyfriend's sexual history. Yea not true. Both genders experience jealousy. Often times these posts give the ages of the girl between 25-30 and they are like OMG 30 PARTNERS THAT'S SOME GOLD STAR SLUTBAG MATERIAL Exactly. 30 partners is more or less above average. It is not a slut. Nothing wrong with it, just every girl says she has like 3-5 partners. EDit: It simply means SHE LIKES SEX. IF YOU LIKE SEX TOO AND…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/16 09:33 PM
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The overwhelming majority of alphas are still white males. This is a story you are telling yourself. Look at the NBA, 80% black. Look at the NFL, 50-60% black.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/16 02:27 AM
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I have friends that are mid-late 20s virgins who get fucked up and dance regularly on a Saturday night. Women are never virgins in their late 20's unless they are religious catholics or have deformed faces. Most women do lie about their partner count. Here is proof http://www.vice.com/read/why-do-women-lie-about-how-many-men-theyve-slept-with
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/16 11:34 PM
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Just because you saw a girl grinding up against a guys cock at your 3'oclock 5 metres away and were horrified, it doesn't mean that everyone else in the club was doing the same thing. I live in the SF bay area, and I have been to several frat parties in college also in California. All of the dance floors have basically everyone grinding, kissing each others necks, or making out.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/16 11:18 PM
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while a natural beta unplugged by RP theory will become angry, depressed and suicidal for realizing that he will never become alpha. But how do you know this guy simply might have not wanted to try RP tactics and didn't feel motivated enough?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/16 10:25 PM
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I am not saying this is the average, what I am saying is that, people over marginalize promiscuity in women to the point where they believe a girl who has like 25-30 partners is 1 in 100,000. It's way more common than that. About the one partner per month, I am trying to show an amount that seems frequent, adds up to a whopping amount over time. Promiscuous women are more at 80-110 partners in reality, way more than 20-25.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/16 09:19 PM
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And that's not even taking into consideration women who don't "hook up." As stated in my OP, I am focusing on modern age girls who hook up. No matter how you slice it, it's not the norm. Sounds more like you don't want it to be the norm. Are you ashamed of promiscuity? There is nothing wrong with it. I just think most girls lie about it to seem more pure and innocent.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/16 08:54 PM
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So while it's true that many people talk a big game, you're forgetting how easily women can get laid. Most of the time, if they don't, it's because they don't want to. This is what I am talking about, It's not that unusual or hard for a woman to sky rocket her N-count. It's not a 0.02% thing. Look at this graph, 20% of women have had over 26 partners. http://www.universityprimetime.com/new-infographic-reveals-how-often-college-students-are-having-hookups/
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/16 08:49 PM
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http://www.universityprimetime.com/new-infographic-reveals-how-often-college-students-are-having-hookups/ This is a convincing argument... over half of college students report having over 11 partners, with 9% having over 50.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/16 08:46 PM
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are outrageous and not aligned with reality in the slightest. Oh please, take a look at this. A real survey, indicating 20% of girls who hook up have at least 26+ partners, with 9% having over 50. This is reality. http://www.universityprimetime.com/new-infographic-reveals-how-often-college-students-are-having-hookups/
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/16 08:45 PM
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It's been found in studies that women who engage in heavy drinking, partying, and drugs are much more likely to have casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/16 08:05 PM
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me, myself, and I. Oh dear we're getting defensive now. Sorry if I triggered you. I am saying that, people are not cognizant of the fact that casual sex overtime continuously adds up. A promiscuous women, is going to have a very high N-count.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/16 08:05 PM
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Ok but we have to take into consideration that people who do go out and party frequently are more likely to be having more sex. Even if a girl has an average of 1 new partner a year, over the ages of 18-32 that puts her at 14 partners. All I am saying is that, if a girl has sex on the first date with one guy, it's likely she has done the in the past. Math adds up quickly, when looking at lifetime counts.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/16 06:02 PM
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My point is, the average girl is more like this https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/3cq6fu/how_a_girl_gets_on_the_cock_carousel/ but this adds up to an N-count of 17-19, not 3-4.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/16 05:13 PM
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Are you counting oral, anal and handjobs for your N-count?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/16 05:11 PM
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Many friends with benefits involve multiple partners. Why do you think the term "dial a dick" book came into fashion?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/16 05:10 PM
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They're typically in groups of 5+. They dance in a damn circle, have fun, go home. No they dance by grinding their ass in a guy's crotch. You must be talking about high school girls. I have been to many, many night clubs and it's a very sexual scene. Lots of girls are making out with guys they don't know. and yet I'm not out here sitting on 12-24 new dicks a year. I mean come on. It's sex. not sitting on a dick. Why are you trying to rationalize here?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/16 05:08 PM
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Frat parties and nightclubs are meat markets. Some people just like to go dancing. Yea, they dance by a girl grinding their ass in a guy's crotch. Totally non sexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/16 05:05 PM
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See, this is my point. That post sounds a lot like an average girl in college now a days. What I am saying is, if a girl is actually promiscuous, that number is more like 40.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/16 05:04 PM
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Plenty of girls in sororities do or girls who go to EDM concerts. I think your generalizing here.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/16 05:02 PM
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Exactly, a lowish count nowadays is more like 4-6, and an average count is more like 15-20.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/16 07:20 AM
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Yea I am not judging character here, just pointing to the ineffectiveness of survey for getting accurate N-counts.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/16 07:19 AM
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Yes but when girls say there N-count is like 4 when they go out to party frequently and go to nightclubs it's nearly impossible.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/16 06:51 AM
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Source: Male incel. Well I am more talking about females who avidly go out and party.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/16 06:40 AM
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if a woman engages in casual sex, even just for a phase of a few years, her N-count is WAY higher than that, likely between 25-40. Challenge my view. What I am saying is that, the average partner count of 4-6 is appropriate for non-casual-sex women, but not for the casual sex ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/16 04:31 AM
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usually prostitutes are forced into work, whether by a pimp or to support some sort of addiction. id think you have to look pretty far to find an ex-sex worker that would say "yeah, im happy i did that." That's a blind assumption. Most prostitutes in the states or Australia make 200k+ per year and do what they do because they want to. if women actually wanted to be prostitutes, why isnt there some sort of movement? the only people that want to legalize it are red pill dudes honestly. Oh please, …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/16 04:43 PM
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Furthermore, women are not guaranteed that the sex will be enjoyable even if they could. So how are you going to address that inequality? Sexbots for women, that have features so amazing real men couldn't compete, such as huge, vibrating dicks, or perfect bodies, with so many settings. Although it depends on what's preventing the enjoyable sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/16 04:41 PM
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Well that isn't true as women can't prostitute themselves if they wish to do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/16 03:09 PM
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This form actually has rules you know, and you do not make them. No clue why they haven't banned you yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/16 02:16 PM
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You seem to be equating money with sex, which I don't agree with. It's directly related. Men had the ability to have sex more freely if they wanted to because they could earn their own money. Think about it this way. If you couldn't work, couldn't save your own money, and couldn't live on your own, you are going to have to live with a man. That man, does have control over you. You can't just bring home other men you want to sleep with without his permission.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/16 07:31 AM
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It's not about the frequency, but the availability of the choice. If a woman wants to earn money, she can either find a man to marry or work and have a carry on her own, or marry a man and have a carry. If a man wants to have sex, he must get a consenting women in order to have sex. There is no independent choice without some form of prostitution or sex robots. In simpler terms, the inequality derives from the fact that women are indispensable in regards to sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/16 07:20 AM
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Did you bother to read my thread? What if they are illegal.....
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/16 06:32 AM
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I agree with everything you mentioned, but I am not arguing the inequality is that men are disposable. I am simply saying in terms of sex, it's unequal for a good portion of men to have absolutely no means to have sex. This leads to other problems, like more rape/SA/SH/SV.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/16 06:31 AM
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Yea hypersexual is basically night clubs, frat parties, or some EDM concerts.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/16 01:12 AM
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it wont change until media/society changes the way virginity/sexual history is viewed. Ok this part I agree with. are all outdated constructs that we should do away with. Disagree with this part. Calling them "constructs" is incorrect, because they are feelings people have in response to an environment. They aren't things people merely believe because someone told them to believe. Telling people simply not to believe these things won't change anything. If you simply reassured me that being a vir…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/16 11:34 PM
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People are just circle jerking all over about feelings rather than objectively stating the damage he is causing and the like. He frauded loads of money from Trump University students, because they never got the education they paid for. He sends his clothing lines to be made in China, when he could have them manufactured here if he wanted them to be. He employs so many immigrants at his resorts, it's not even funny. Need I say more?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/16 09:28 PM
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Ok, but am more curious about non-pay for pleasure ideas....
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/16 08:16 PM
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False All behaviors are enabled or disabled by your environment. Your genes don't matter much at all. If you have super mean parents that tell you to never speak up, never be funny, and stay quiet and study, you will end up being an introvert. It does not matter what your genetics are.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/16 05:49 PM
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You missed this from the article. Hong Kong is a destination for women from the Chinese mainland and Southeast Asia who travel to Hong Kong voluntarily for legal employment in restaurants, bars, and hotels
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/16 04:29 AM
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Sex being a reward for doing X is cuck mentality. Perhaps positive outcome is a better word than reward. Studies have shown that rich people work harder not because they are more motivated, but because they are rich. They have the lifestyle of being rich which is a positive reinforcement for their hard work. This works the same with women. The guy's who are really confident with women are confident because they have had lots of previous success with women. They have positive affirmation that wha…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/16 02:00 AM
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I consider patronizing escorts to be unmanly. A man should be able to win over a woman's interest without too many issues. Ok that I agree with, it's not the optimal approach. Finding a mentally stimulating woman interested in something other than clothes or the latest fashions is unbelievably difficult. Why would you want to go for a dumb woman? Intelligence doesn't make sex feel better or any different, the body and the face does. Secondly, even with all the precautions, sticking one's dick in…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/16 01:45 AM
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First of all, you didn't read the title. Precaution, means pre- as in before. This specifically has to do with what happens before something occurs. So I am going to ignore the assumptions you made in your post. TL;DR: even when it's not victim blaming, it's still often douchey. But that's the problem. Feminism twists and redefines words to their liking. They lose all their meaning like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/16 11:43 PM
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Wait, how do you lose your vCard to several prostitutes? Which one did you stick it in first? I took a week long trip to Hong Kong with a friend who's dad is a wealthy I-Banker. So I used several prostitutes in the given week. It sounds like you're happy with your experience though, so good. I personally think losing one's vCard isn't that big of a deal, Ultimately it's not a big deal, but the idea is if you go so long with just rejection and no success, it can destroy your ability to be confide…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/16 11:39 PM
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Most likely, it's this - "what a LOSER to have to pay for sex. How pathetic". That's what I hear most whenever I bring up the subject of legalizing prostitution to women. Women are not aware of how many men actually can't hook up with at least an average looking woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/16 08:39 PM
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Neither of your two events indicate any kind of ignorance or recklessness, and on the contrary, you tried to resist the action in the second event. The concept of precautions is relevant when there is ignorance or recklessness by the victim. Just as in my car window example, if a girl gets wild at a frat party, whips off her clothes and starts dancing on a table in her lingerie, that is blatant recklessness.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/16 08:12 PM
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That's not what I am saying. If a guy has NEVER had any success with women, and never felt the reward and achievement of having sex, and has failed so many times with women, his brain will associate approaching women as a futile task or activity. It's no different than trying to swat a fly that keeps evading your swatting attempts. Eventually, you will stop trying to swat the fly because you feel trying to swat it does not give you the reward of killing an annoying bug. So it's not that I am not…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/16 07:36 PM
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Hell it might make more sense because when hiring a sex worker there is 0 guess work. You contact them, arrange a date/time, arrange a price and when you finish you go seperate ways. Hmmm, that can make sense. In my case though, I wasn't after the easiness so much, I was after something to motivate me, to actually connect me with my sexuality. I honestly had no motivation to go out or approach girls. There was a period of 3 months where all I did over summer was play video games. I needed someth…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/16 07:05 PM
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disqualifying you from a relationship with (most?) women. And how does any women find out if a man slept with a prostitute? quite possibly participating in sexual slavery (especially in a place like Hong Kong) There aren't sex slaves in one of the richest economies in the world. This isn't thailand or Nigeria.....
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/16 07:02 PM
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To your third question, yes, it's completely reasonable, because the real risks surrounding rape are not the ones that the media promotes. So your saying it's a sound decision to, for example, drink the punch at a frat known for date rape, just because you want the max freedom you can get? We do not say that these victims are responsible for the crimes that happened to them, we say that they are unfortunate victims. Disagree. Look at Donald Trump now. Many people are saying you can incite violen…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/16 06:38 PM
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I'm again not saying that it's going to be a successful strategy to teach rapists not to rape, but this interaction is taking place in a societal context, and I think that society can be altered such that this interaction is less possible, and easier to accurately prosecute. Criminals commit crimes because there is some incentive behind doing so. The only way to teach criminals not to commit crimes is to remove or lower that incentive. For example, some cash registers or banks have their stacks …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/16 06:36 PM
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Just, a lot of them are not willing to do those things because it limits their autonomy/liberty. I think that's a respectable opinion. Because of this, I think feminists overall will not accept your version of the statement. In other areas of life, people thinking like this would be considered ridiculous, and crazy. Let's take a few for example: "I don't want to get cavities but I don't think I should have to brush my teeth to prevent cavities, or have to go to the dentist to prevent cavities" -…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/16 06:15 PM
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Instead of prescribing that women should take those precautions, we should amass a database of precautions and the risk/reward tradeoff that they incur, and let women pick freely from this database with no judgment regardless of the level of precaution they choose to take. Disagree. In the sense that if you were having a discussion like this with feminists or college student girls, both ways you listed would be viewed as bad. Feminists view rape in an idealistic fashion. They believe no rape sho…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/16 04:50 PM
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It depends what is the most desirable outcome. If your most desirable outcome is the safest one, then no it is not limiting your freedom. You are operating within the bounds of what you consider the most desirable option. If the most desirable outcome is the one with the most freedom, you must take a greater risk in order to achieve that freedom. That risk can NEVER be removed. There will always be rapists, just the same way there will always be people who shoot up schools. What you are saying i…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/16 04:37 PM
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However, in the jury room there were those who claimed the victim should have known better than to stick his nose into someone else's business. Looking back, I think that is victim blaming. It's not. The victim did not cause the anger of the man. However, it's common police advice to not approach situations with violent or angry individuals. You call the cops and watch from a distance, or record video.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/16 04:02 PM
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So when we tell women specifically not to walk alone, it's hard for me to see how it would be victim-blaming, but it is causing harm through reinforcing sexism-based mythology. Well it's not sexism because your focusing on sex crimes vs. violent crimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/16 03:24 PM
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You never really heard someone telling the victim of a burglary that they shouldn't have had shit locks on their house. Or they should have this or that. Complete and utter nonsense. The cops tell people all the time how they could have better avoided their crime. If you go out in the mall with your bag unzipped and gapping open, people tell you to zip up your bag. When I got pickpocketed in Hong Kong, the police officer told me I should have had my hotel key in my bag, not my pocket. People get…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/16 03:23 PM
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It depends what trust means.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/16 03:15 PM
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Given that there are two-time rape survivors, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/16 03:10 PM
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It's not victim blaming as your not saying someone caused their rape. Did u read my post? When a police officer asks me why I left my car window open, he is not blaming me for the incident.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/16 02:49 PM
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Very helpful. I always remember to leave my window closed and shut from now on.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/16 08:27 AM
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i know some frat boy fuckers who purposely got girls wasted, and kept sober themselves...they would work together like a pack of wolves. and whatever you did...don't drink the punch. Yea here is a perfect example, drinking beverages other people made. This carries a big risk of it possibly having a date rape drug in there. There is a greater risk of being raped in a frat party than in a house party with friends. And yes, I agree on girls standing up for themselves. I like that idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/16 08:18 AM
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No actually there are distinct factors that raise the risk of rape significantly. For example, according to the Department of Justice, girls in sororities have a 80-90% higher chance of getting raped.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/16 08:07 AM
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If I tell them to lock their car after it's been robbed, I'll probably get a huge "no shit, Sherlock." Disagree, If he continues to not lock his door after being robbed, he has learned nothing from the situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/16 07:26 AM
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Our culture doesn't support theft, but it does support rape. So where are the cops telling men to rape women, but saying don't steal? Please show me.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/16 07:19 AM
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And "pounding" is a disgusting weaponization of sex. Someone sounds jealous here.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/16 07:19 AM
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If they have been raped, then yes, it is victim blaming. It's really salting the wound when someone opens up about a rape, and you reply with helpful tips to dodge being raped. Blaming is to assert that the cause of a crime was the victim. That's like saying something about the woman possessed a man to rape her. This has nothing to do with suggesting precautions. Any police officer will suggest precautions to someone who has their car broken into, or has their house broken into, after the fact. …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/16 07:17 AM
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It's victim blaming when you say it after the fact. Why isn't that obvious? Blaming is to assert that the cause of a crime was the victim. That's like saying something about the woman possessed a man to rape her. This has nothing to do with suggesting precautions. Any police officer will suggest precautions to someone who has their car broken into, or has their house broken into, after the fact. When somebody stole by backpack from my car because I left my window down accidentally, the first thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/16 07:16 AM
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If not, then you're trying to penetrate a social scene that doesn't want to include you. It's not that women are bad, it's that certain groups are exclusive. Don't bother with them. Yea I learned that the hard way. See these girls were so nice when they wanted my help on math homework, but after that, they "omg im like so busy sorry!".
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/16 06:16 AM
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Yea my university was packed with nerdy socialy awkward league of Legends players. I agree with you, but I think at any level these guys are going to seem boring and not arousing to hardly any woman, at their level or below. No charisma at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/16 05:34 AM
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I don't think having female friends that specifically view a guy as "below them" is going to be a good relationship, or not a healthy one.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/16 09:40 PM
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One random bitch does this to you - might just be her. These were the blonde sorority girls that have a lot of football and basketball player "friends". Any girl outside of the party-types, usually the Asian or Latina girls, never gave me cold hard rejections and so abruptly.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/16 09:27 PM
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no I am a white guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/16 06:08 AM
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Because you're already so far behind, you will have to spend a lot more energy than the average person. This is what the threshold of motivation is. Everyone has some limit to when they will consider something not worth it. It's in part why you can't tell poor people to just be like Steve Jobs. If hookers were legal, regulated, safe (both for her and for him, in terms of violence and STDs) and easily available, it would do a lot to address the problems of FA men. Well, I myself actually last my …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/16 06:06 AM
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I used to be an incel until age 22, so ill give some input on this. The reason men become FA has to do with a progressive, elongating negative feedback loop from the time they start becoming interested in dating and sex. See, no matter how attractive we are, we all start from ground zero. People who get more positive feedback in dating will continue to feel confident and pursue it, while those that get negative feedback will continue to have a plummeting sense of hope. A "loop" is essentially th…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/16 02:02 AM
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Driving flashy, expensive cars could "hurt" people who are super into cars but can't afford one. Being in a relationship with someone could "hurt" everyone else who wants to be in a relationship with that person. Running in public could "hurt" paraplegics. These are all unrelated examples as they involve bystanders to an event, not people rejected by the event itself. If we're expanding the definition of "hurting people" to "anything that might unintentionally make a random stranger sad", we rea…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/16 11:03 PM
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It seems to me that the real harm caused to you was the emotional pain of rejection. You were rejected for superficial reasons, and this is why you are calling it a meat market. However, even without the superficial, meat market environment, the pain of rejection would still be there. Let me explain in detail. If I go out with a girl for coffee or drinks, and we talk to each other, I try to escalate a little, but she isn't game for it, then I feel that it's something that didn't work out. Perhap…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/16 10:56 PM
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I keep repasting the same answer, this would be relevant: Are you saying that if hook-up culture didn't exist or was more muted, girls would talk to you more? There would be more of an emphasis on having fun and a good time and less on instant satisfaction. If she's turned off by you being a math major, I'm not sure what that has to do with promiscuity. Promiscuity in the context of the college hookup culture again promotes a near exclusive focus on looks. You can't even talk over the super loud…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/16 10:48 PM
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Are you saying that if hook-up culture didn't exist or was more muted, girls would talk to you more? There would be more of an emphasis on having fun and a good time and less on instant satisfaction. If she's turned off by you being a math major, I'm not sure what that has to do with promiscuity. Promiscuity in the context of the college hookup culture again promotes a near exclusive focus on looks. You can't even talk over the super loud music they have at frat parties. I have had much more suc…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/16 10:47 PM
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My point is simply not difficulty or easiness, it's that feminists market the hookup culture as totally harmless if females or males participate in it, which I disagree with.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/16 10:13 PM
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Im a white guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/16 10:06 PM
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People were mean long before hook up culture. It has nothing to do with promiscuity. So you are saying people in the hookup culture have THE EXACT SAME emphasis on looks and personality as those looking for a longterm relationship? You sound like the same people that say climate change is a lie. Ignorance does amazing things to people.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/16 08:23 PM
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Sure. But it doesn't have to do with him being promiscuous. The hookup culture is linked to a much higher emphasis on physical attraction and treating men and women more as objects. People looking for a serious relationship are going to be looking at more than purely physical aspects. Why would I want to go for a frat guy anyway? We are talking about the hookup culture here, they seem to be pretty well sought after.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/16 08:16 PM
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But now they won't settle for anything other than women that don't actually exist. ? tons of women exist that have casual sex, what are you saying?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/16 08:14 PM
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Now, I am very pro-promiscuity. I believe that in general, men and women are better off having equal freedom and liberation where sex is concerned. It does give more opportunities. HOWEVER, the idea that promiscuity doesn't hurt anyone in my view is complete denial and delusional. Did you read this part? My point again, is that the hookup culture is falsely represented in the media as this free for all sex buffet when it hurts both some men and some women who don't like it or feel objectified by…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/16 08:14 PM
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Has nothing to do with promiscuity. Of course it does. If some frat bro said you can't go into a party because your flat chested you would be much more hurt than if a guy just said he can't go out for coffee with you because he is busy. Go after different women. Well yea I 100% agree on that one. I have much more success with Asian or latin girls who aren't in the sorority/party scene.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/16 08:11 PM
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I am not RP, but I am not arguing on what percentages are getting in or out. I am arguing that the hookup culture is misrepresented in the media as the typical college experience, and that it totally misses the possible damage it causes to people who can't compete or don't want to compete in a meat market environment.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/16 08:08 PM
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Do you think the dudes on TRP would be happy with having 1, single sex partner in their entire lives?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/16 07:56 PM
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How is this more harmful than longer courtships followed by acceptance or rejection? It seems the longer courtships would be almost worst. Longer courtships evaluate people on many aspects of who they are, they aren't meat markets. It wasn't because you were a math major. She might of actually despised math majors, but this wasn't the reason she turned her back on you. If she just didn't like nerds or something, she would have kept talking to you for the bare minimum amount of time necessary to …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/16 07:55 PM
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Your friend is definitely happy. My point is the vast majority of guys who say they want to be successful with women are talking about player level status. As in having multiple girls to have casual sex with.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/16 07:51 PM
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I have been to quite a few parties and have seen girls making out with guys, grinding on them, and going in a bathroom together with them. It's pretty obvious. Go look up the hundreds of articles on the hook up culture on google.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/16 07:49 PM
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I am not sure what it is to do with promiscuity specifically. The hook up culture removes the normal process of dating and courtship and makes interactions with the opposite sex into a very quick, swift meat market. Individuality is disregarded for immediate deliveries of pleasure. In what ways would the absence of promiscuity benefit some people? NO. I actually like promiscuity and promiscuous girls now that I have more skill being charming and feeling out sexual tension, and just being outgoin…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/16 07:48 PM
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There is no victim. I could buy a cupcake and end up tempting an obese person into overeating by simply eating it around them. This is not a related example because the obese person is merely a bystander. They can still go buy a cupcake themselves if they want to. A better comparison is with job applications. Denying someone for a job, denies them an opportunity, similar to rejection romantically. However, the point here is not for people to take responsibility for their actions at all. I got to…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/16 07:45 PM
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Having sex with 1 girl is hardly being sexually fulfilling.....
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/16 06:56 PM
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They are hooking up with other guys at the party. Making out with guys they are dancing with, going in a bathroom together with them, leaving the party together. It's pretty easy to tell. The people at these parties are not there just to chat.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/16 06:55 PM
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You're making a good argument for shallow hook-up culture hurting people, which isn't the same thing. There are friends with benefits who not only provide sexual gratification, but emotional support as well. Oh yes, I am actually talking specifically about hookup culture scenes, where your having sex with people you never met before and don't know. I don't believe friends with benefits are hurting people realistically. And who believes that absolutely no one is getting hurt? That doesn't even ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/16 06:53 PM
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So it's less about experience and more about attractiveness. Of course, can't get experience without attractiveness, so... Disagree. Men cannot realistically stand in a room and have girls come over and want to have sex with them. Men have a pressure to approach and engage the women. Yes looks do matter, but they are not magnetizing like they are with a woman's looks. See in my case, I am now able to get laid with girls who are relatively cute or in my league. However, before I lost my virginity…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/16 06:50 PM
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I'm wondering to what degree women do the same thing with male romantic/sexual history. Hmmmm, I think this is true, but this takes place more over social media nowadays. Not having pictures with many girls or friends on FB for example is a red flag.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/16 06:46 PM
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No they don't change a lot, not without effort. By age 20, how a particular man or woman approaches mating, dating and sex is in place, and it's not going to change all that much without concerted effort. What I am saying is, during the first few years people start dating and sex, they are more forgiving and accepting of people who might not know what they're doing. There is still this type of curiosity, where the expectation of pleasure isn't that high. After about age 20, the vast majority of …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/16 06:05 PM
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but most sex (even in college) is had in relationships, and most couples spend the majority of their time together doing other things than sex. I think this is really out of touch with American college campuses within the last 3-5 years. http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/13/fashion/the-end-of-courtship.html
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/16 04:58 AM
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with their existence that all women find male virginity an utterly repulsive signal of omega-ness, that should be hidden from them at all costs. Women don't find male virginity repulsive in a grotesque sense, but it certainly isn't what their looking for. After about age 19-20, girls in college who are actively having sex are looking for experienced guys that can really pleasure them. We live in a society that views sex as one of the highest sources of pleasure. Girls in college are not forgivin…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/16 04:24 AM
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As it stands I don't have the financial resources and can't afford to spend even a week just fucking off to Asia Look into being an English teacher if your really interested, they make a good salary in most Asian countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/16 04:16 AM
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Approaching with confidence or w/e doesn't really mean anything--have you been able to actually get laid now? Yes. Specifically, the point is to be sexually assertive and bold. Do not expect girls to raise sexual tension on you. They are expecting you to do it. Examples: If your about to say good bye to a girl you have been talking to, say her name, and then just look at her in the eyes, without saying a word, for about 4-5 seconds, then smile, and say ill see ya later. This builds a sexual tens…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/16 04:14 AM
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I'm subbed to r/niceguys and Hmmm, see I actually think NiceGuys TM are very different from incels. Nice guys don't acknowledge their strategy of being a doormat and extra nice doesn't actually work for them. When a nice guy is rejected, for example, they get angry about it, because they feel it should be working. When an incel is rejected, they know what they're doing isn't working and acknowledge the rejection.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/16 04:00 AM
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If an incel is unlucky enough to get weird parents that raise them a lot differently than their peers, the children are quickly outcast and are kept out of having the experience of relationships and sex because they were never taught to be normal. I was home schooled k through 12th grade and for months at a time the only female I spoke to was my mother. So I am like the king of weird parents. Very sheltered childhood.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/16 03:24 AM
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However, the reason why the negative feedback loop begins in the first place does still come down to looks and personality. I disagree, because two people will not match correctly 100% of the time. Humans are not magnets. A guy might be attractive to a couple of girls in his high school class, but due to stress, homework, bad parents, or perhaps just cock blocker friends, they never get on with one another. For example, quite a few asian guys I know, specifically the korean one's have very stric…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/16 03:22 AM
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They are destined to lose. Years of negative feedback during puberty will damage you mentally. And yes most of it comes from your looks. Well, I agree with your first two sentences, but not the last. I am 5'11" and I did have a small level of female interest before, but I honest to god felt like I had no clue what I was doing. Like I could talk to girls as a friend, but in terms of initiating it felt so awkward.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/16 03:15 AM
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I didn't feel like sitting around, playing video games and wallowing in self pity any more. This is why I believe sexuality is based on being enabled, not your desire primarily.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/16 03:14 AM
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But the real question, did your success with women state-side improve afterwards? Yes, it did. Not to player status or anything, but I can approach girls with much more confidence and not afraid about breaking boundaries or not knowing wtf i was doing before. Granted I am more into Asian girls, but overall I don't have trouble getting girls in my league. but I think I would more likely do it if I'm a bit older and having no luck at all romantically Look at it as a training or lessons. Don't look…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/16 03:11 AM
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Feed back loops are a serious thing. When you fail something, acknowledge that you're a failure, and internalize that mindset it can be nigh on impossible to reprogram yourself. Right, but the loops are easier to correct before they start looping. Teenagers seem to be more forgiving in terms of sexual inexperience, since a lot of people, probably 50-60% by the age of 17 are still virgins or had 1-2 partners. But as time goes on, it gets harder to catch up.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/16 02:37 AM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/496a3m/how_i_escaped_the_path_of_being_an_incel/
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/16 02:33 AM
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For example, this post is a fairly accurate account of incel traits. All of those traits are non-genetically fixed. You can change all of them if you want to. Studies have shown rich people work harder than people not because they are more motivated, but because they are richer. They have a better lifestyle, already, and more freedom to do what they want. It's the same way with incels. I used to be an incel but I lost my virginity to a prostitute in Hong Kong at age 22, and slept with other pros…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/16 01:11 AM
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And men do the same thing. My closest male friend says he loves big boobs, and yet his wife is an A cup. A man will say he likes smart girls and only hooks up with idiots. Another man will say that blondes are the hottest and dates a brunette. This does not mean anything unless the men have said they didn't like something and still dated that type of girl anyways. Someone saying they like latinas yet dating black girls is not the same as saying you don't like latinas and still date them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/16 11:51 PM
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It's well documented in social sciences that people will give answers deemed to be socially acceptable to questions about sensitive subjects. 100% agree on this one
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/16 11:49 PM
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"i know everything about that person, i know he's not a gentleman, he's a douche bag, is just looking to hook up, etc etc." I am not making presumptions here. These were guys from a specific frat that was known for making their pledges drink urine and clean a toilet bowl with their tongue. These guys were actually mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/16 11:41 PM
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