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At least the judge is sending it to trial and not letting her get away with a plea deal.
/r/MensRights18/11/23 07:39 PM
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I think every parent, mother or father, should have access to financial aid if they need it to attend to the well-being of their child. The "for the kid" part is the whole point. A father can't afford child support? Let's make sure that child is still taken care of. A mother can't afford to care for her child? Let's make sure that child is still taken care of.
/r/PussyPassDenied04/10/20 04:08 PM
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Not every woman wants to have an abortion or has access to abortion. Maybe their financial situation changed while they were pregnant and abortion is no longer an option.
/r/PussyPassDenied04/10/20 03:50 PM
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Idk about that. Feminists are generally pretty anti-war and during the Vietnam era a lot of feminists were supportive of those speaking out against the draft.
/r/PussyPassDenied04/10/20 12:33 PM
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It’s funny that there is a lot of anti-feminist rhetoric in this thread because the last few times I’ve seen the idea of a “paper abortion” (a man signing away all responsibility, financial and otherwise) debated in feminist subs, they’ve generally been in favor of them. Most feminists that I’ve encountered (online and irl) believe men should be able to give up their rights as long as there is some sort of financial aid for the parent if they need it. We’re generally a pretty pro-choice group. O…
/r/PussyPassDenied04/10/20 12:22 PM
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What feminists want the draft reinstated?
/r/PussyPassDenied04/10/20 12:07 PM
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Marriage bars were a thing up until the 50s and 60s. Employers restricted employment opportunities for married women and were allowed to fire women if their marital status changed. Edit/addition: Most universities didn’t admit women until the 1920s/1930s
/r/MensRights02/09/18 01:23 AM
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Have you read any Charles Bukowski? “Alone with Everybody” would give you a good sense of his work.
/r/MensRights19/04/18 03:06 PM
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You said that gender segregated facilities promote anti-male attitudes. I understand how that would be true if there were only female-only facilities. I’m trying to argue that if both sorts of facilities existed then that wouldn’t be the case.
/r/MensRights10/04/18 03:41 PM
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I included that because it was what prompted me to write the comment you were responding to.
/r/MensRights09/04/18 10:40 PM
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Some valid criticisms here, but the original comment seems to contain an assumption that the author only focuses on women and/or women’s issues. That seems pretty off-base.
/r/MensRights09/04/18 08:10 PM
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I asked about how male only facilities, like the one mentioned in the article, contributes to the idea that only men are perpetrators. It seems like male-only health/resource centers would support the idea that men are not only perpetrators. My defense of having BOTH segregated and non-segregated resource centers: In my city the two demographics of people most likely to be food-insecure are the elderly and African Americans. There are food pantries and meal programs open to everybody that give f…
/r/MensRights09/04/18 05:46 PM
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There are mental health agencies that aren’t segregated by gender but the author’s experience with her family member lead them to believe that these agencies didn’t do enough to help him and part of the reason for that was because of his history with homelessness and addiction. The theory of the foundation seems to be that since men experience homelessness more maybe we should have a facility that focus on helping the causes that contribute to this which may be specific to the experience of men.…
/r/MensRights09/04/18 03:22 PM
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The woman that wrote this helped start a male-only mental health facility. She clearly doesn’t focus on women only.
/r/MensRights09/04/18 03:03 PM
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The study also shows that more women in the younger generations are offering to pay when compared to older generations. So it looks like attitudes may be changing.
/r/MensRights08/04/18 07:55 PM
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I don’t believe feminism should be anti-male and I don’t support feminists that hold anti-male beliefs. I personally can’t be held responsible for the actions of any feminists that hold anti-male beliefs an that’s how I believe extremist views hinder a movement: by alienating others from the movement. I am against people telling men to “get it snipped and keep it zipped”. It’s stupid and doesn’t fix anything. I am in favor of developing more safe birth control options for men. I am also pro-choi…
/r/MensRights08/04/18 12:06 PM
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You linked a list of over 100 comments about an article. Cool, this has been a wild ride but I’m gonna call it a night. Have a good one.
/r/MensRights08/04/18 12:42 AM
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The one side supported in the article was mine. The multiple sides are reflected in the answers from other people.
/r/MensRights08/04/18 12:30 AM
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Okay, but the answers contain a variety of opinions. So how was I supposed to know you were talking about certain answers and not others? There are people that support both of our arguments in the answers, the article linked in the question/topic of the conversation only supports one side.
/r/MensRights08/04/18 12:27 AM
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That quote is from the comments. You were asking me to read the comments, not the article. Got it. Edit: Or I guess it's the answers to the posted question. Not exactly a comment section.
/r/MensRights08/04/18 12:21 AM
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Okay, you have a right to your opinion. But the article you are quoting doesn’t support your argument. It is pro-parental options for both men and women. It’s pro-abortion and in favor of men being able to opt out.
/r/MensRights08/04/18 12:13 AM
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They are saying you shouldn’t tell men or women to just refrain from sex. I share that opinion.
/r/MensRights08/04/18 12:07 AM
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I assure you, I can read. The article still seems to support abortion and other options. Maybe if you provided a quote from the article it would help me understand your point.
/r/MensRights07/04/18 11:08 PM
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So you’re pro-life. Ok. Why did you post an article containing this quote: “A pregnancy happens in a woman’s body. That means the right to decide whether to continue to terminate or continue the pregnancy is absolutely hers and hers alone. The right to bodily autonomy is absolute. No one else should be able to either force her to terminate a pregnancy or prevent her from doing so.”
/r/MensRights07/04/18 10:23 PM
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I think men should have the right to opt out of fatherhood. I also think women should have the right to an abortion. Nobody should be shamed for making the decision in either scenario. Why did you share that link?
/r/MensRights07/04/18 10:04 PM
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Really your job is to convince me that there's any actual anti-women content here. I kind of read that as meaning that you didn't believe there was anti-women sentiment in this sub, thank you for the clarification. I don't think OP is trying to say the whole movement is anti-women, he seems to just be off-put by some of the anti-women comments he came across. Also, I'm not arguing for censorship. When I say those opinions should be discouraged I mean they should be debated (discouraged from main…
/r/MensRights07/04/18 09:20 PM
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I think anti-women content here is generally found in the comment sections and not posts, which is a good thing but still not great. This leads me to believe that while MensRights isn't anti-women there are definitely followers that hold anti-women beliefs, and we know that extremist outliers can hinder a movement. In this thread ( https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/8a2043/forcing_a_woman_to_be_a_parent_is_crazy/ ) there are some individual commenters saying that "99.9% of women that g…
/r/MensRights07/04/18 09:10 PM
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Birth control isn’t 100% effective. What do you think about pregnancies that occur even though birth control was being used? What if it’s a committed relationship where both partners want the abortion?
/r/MensRights05/04/18 11:34 PM
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No it’s not. It’s not making a prediction about the future, it’s saying that up until now women have rarely been active shooters.
/r/MensRights05/04/18 08:31 PM
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I said more shooters have been men, that’s the same thing I’ve been saying. I guess I didn’t ask them all about their preferred pronouns so I don’t really know. My answer about whether or not there will be more female shooters is: I don’t know.
/r/MensRights05/04/18 08:25 PM
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Are the majority of active shooters men or women?
/r/MensRights05/04/18 08:16 PM
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The article says most shooters are male, but we’re seeing more female shooters. It then goes on to ask if we are going to continue to see more female shooters.
/r/MensRights05/04/18 08:11 PM
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"Crimes related to drug addiction are going up, and more women are getting swept up in it. Some of those crimes are explicitly addiction-related, like drug trafficking. Others, like burglary, may have been committed in support of a drug habit." That isn't saying that women are less responsible for crimes, it's saying as more women are becoming addicted they are engaging in more criminal behavior. Nobody is saying that it isn't a problem when men get addicted or that they don't deserve treatment;…
/r/MensRights05/04/18 08:06 PM
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The article is actually bringing up the question of whether or not we’re going to see more female shooters. It’s not trivializing anything, it’s saying this might become a pattern rather than existing as an anomaly.
/r/MensRights05/04/18 06:55 PM
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The article isn’t trivializing the attack at all. From the article: “We have seen an increase in women engaged in suicide attacks and other attacks on behalf of terrorist groups in other parts of the world so law enforcement in the U.S. will want to determine whether we potentially are going to see an increase in these types of attacks here or whether the YouTube attack was more of an anomaly," Cohen said. The YouTube shooter's gender "will not change a thing" as investigators continue to get mo…
/r/MensRights05/04/18 06:52 PM
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The program was started in 1991, so I feel like this headline is a little misleading.
/r/MensRights05/04/18 04:03 PM
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I don’t see where the article is blaming men for more women getting arrested for drugs, that seems to be a conclusion you’ve assumed. After working in the criminal justice system I can say that I’ve seen the “swept-up” defense used for most of the first time offenders I’ve worked with, regardless of gender. It’s also used a lot for men and women that live in households with other offenders or addicts. As for the program in question, all I can say is that different prisons develop different progr…
/r/MensRights05/04/18 03:56 PM
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Great link and discussion! Thanks
/r/MensRights21/03/18 12:25 PM
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The numbers don't seem to be the clean 50/50 split but the National Coalition Against Domestic Violence has a lot of different statistical breakdowns: https://ncadv.org/statistics I don't really know about the statistics concerning resources available but thehotline.org does have a page discussing the under-representation of male victims and some resources specifically for men: http://www.thehotline.org/2014/07/22/men-can-be-victims-of-abuse-too/ It seems like a lot of the domestic violence reso…
/r/MensRights19/03/18 08:53 PM
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For sure, it was an interest of mine before I discovered this sub. I’m just gonna cut back on commenting here (today obviously excluded lol). Thanks for the kind words.
/r/MensRights09/03/18 01:03 AM
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It got confused in my original comment, somebody called me an idiot at the bottom of that thread and the violent message was sent to me privately from a user on a different post. I should have been more clear that this was my experience over multiple comments and posts and not just the one.
/r/MensRights09/03/18 12:56 AM
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Should I “shake it off”?
/r/MensRights08/03/18 11:28 PM
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So the Shameless Magazine article you linked states that Indigenous women are one of the fastest growing prison populations in the country, and the link takes you to a study that says Indigenous women are the fastest growing prison population in the country. The female prison population is also seeing growth rates exceeding male incarceration growth rates. Both of these are due to incarceration for nonviolent/drug-related offenses. The New York Justice home program says it started focusing on wo…
/r/MensRights08/03/18 11:08 PM
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The point I’m trying to make is that the majority of times I’ve posted in this thread I am met with something other than “civil discourse”. I have never resorted to name calling or personal attacks, but those tactics have been used against me multiple times. Frequently enough to call it expected. I am usually sympathetic to the issues posted on this sub, what I am against is how the community has frequently (in my experience) reacted to different opinions and my attempts at starting discussions.
/r/MensRights08/03/18 07:47 PM
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Here it is, scroll down: https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/7ymor4/father_mistaken_for_a_paedophile_after_booking_a/
/r/MensRights08/03/18 07:23 PM
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I provided a link in my next comment.
/r/MensRights08/03/18 07:19 PM
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I appreciate your comment and I wish more people were like you but can you look at how I’m being treated in this same thread right now? I’m getting way more negative feedback and people calling me a liar or saying I’m exaggerating even though I provided a link. It’s more than just a few people being dicks.
/r/MensRights08/03/18 07:16 PM
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The jump off a bridge message was sent privately to me and the “blathering idiot” comment is in the link I provided in a previous comment on this thread. I didn’t take it to heart, I reported the user for harassment. I’m just saying that I get a lot more personal attacks from this sub then from any of the other subs.
/r/MensRights08/03/18 07:08 PM
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Again, it is awful that these shelters are nonexistent or not supported. What I’m trying to say is we need more activism and less blaming women - which is largely what I see in this sub.
/r/MensRights08/03/18 05:54 PM
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It was sent to me as a private message, not a comment on the thread. When I looked up the user the only sub we had in common was this one and I reported them for harassment. The message was sent to me hours after I made the post and at the time it was the only thing I had ever posted on Reddit. I was called a blathering idiot in a comment on a different post, I really don’t know what they were trying to argue. Here is the link
/r/MensRights08/03/18 04:35 PM
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I think a lot of times people on this sub blame women for the problems men face when women are not the cause of the problem. There are a lot of posts about how men face harsher sentences for similar crimes (a valid issue) but the comments frequently blame this on feminism. I don’t see how women/feminism is to blame when the legal and criminal justice systems are largely male dominated. The lack of shelters for male victims of domestic violence is tragic but, again, are women to blame? I know in …
/r/MensRights08/03/18 04:21 PM
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Seriously. I created one post on here and immediately got a message directing me to “jump off a bridge”. I was called a “blathering idiot” for saying that women in the US haven’t always had the same voting rights as men. They might be bad apples but nobody seems to call them out on it. I feel way more comfortable having conversations on Men’s Lib, nobody there has told me to commit suicide.
/r/MensRights08/03/18 03:54 PM
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He was charged with homicide
/r/MensRights05/03/18 02:28 AM
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It seems like this is a good issue for men/MRAs to organize around in their communities. Has anybody tried reaching out to their local politicians about how to start a shelter? I know in my city the women’s, lgbt, homeless, and youth resource centers share a lot of big donors, sponsors, and fundraising bases. Maybe you could contact these places in your own cities and they could tell you who to talk to and give you some insight as to how to start a men’s shelter in your community.
/r/MensRights04/03/18 01:43 AM
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Roughly 69% of Reddit users are male and 58% are between the ages 18-29. http://mediakix.com/2017/09/reddit-statistics-users-demographics/
/r/MensRights01/03/18 10:13 PM
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This comic doesn’t say men are toxic it says that men are experiencing pain and they should reach out to each other for help. I agree the term “toxic masculinity” is problematic and has become very discouraging and I’ve been talking to other people in this thread about how else we can label this problem specific to men. Any ideas?
/r/MensRights28/02/18 03:26 PM
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She founded one of the first programs in the US but I believe the first gender studies program was actually in Australia. I guess I have a more informal understanding of gender studies that predates the university. Like, people were studying the lives of women and how men and women interacted with society before there was a formal study.
/r/MensRights28/02/18 03:18 PM
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I think this comic is encouraging men to work/talk/bond with other men.
/r/MensRights28/02/18 03:12 PM
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After your conclusion I think the issue then becomes why does anyone feel the desire to kill others and is this possibly stemming from gendered issues? It’s a difficult and nuanced discussion and we just don’t see much nuance in today’s mainstream journalism.
/r/MensRights28/02/18 01:27 PM
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I’m glad that’s the message you took away from the comic!
/r/MensRights28/02/18 01:21 PM
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Well, the way I learned about both was that toxic femininity hurts women and toxic masculinity hurts men but a society that creates people who are hurting because of their gendered expectations is flawed as those hurting members can become detrimental to society as a whole or those around them.
/r/MensRights28/02/18 01:08 PM
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I mean, everyone at my university needed to take a 3 credit “diversity” class so women’s studies actually met that requirement. Which was why a lot of guys ended up in the intro classes, and the department got a lot of positive feedback from them. So, I respect your right to that opinion but I’ll still be proud of my university and the gender studies program there.
/r/MensRights28/02/18 01:05 PM
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This sounds like a drunk person being a violent idiot.
/r/MensRights28/02/18 05:10 AM
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I’ve said multiple times in this thread that people on both sides have people with damaging beliefs and they are usually the most vocal (your bad experiences with feminism my bad experiences with men’s rights activists). But as long as there are male politicians coming for my reproductive rights I’m gonna say feminism is worth keeping around. That doesn’t mean there isn’t a place for the men’s rights movement. I want to encourage discussion between the civil members of both communities.
/r/MensRights28/02/18 04:08 AM
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I really like the idea you’re going for but I’m always scared to use the term “underdeveloped” in any of the social sciences. What about like gendered or self-imposed isolation? Ack. Those both sound like meaningless mouthfuls.
/r/MensRights28/02/18 01:22 AM
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Thanks. And thanks for listening :)
/r/MensRights28/02/18 01:16 AM
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We gotta find a place to start. This comic is on r/feminism right now too. I know a lot of women want to have these conversations but are afraid to join these pages. I have a comment somewhere else in this thread about being harassed for a Reddit post and being doxxed and sent threatening emails after my first attempt to comment on a men’s rights page. The women’s movement was largely started to gain equality and protect women (it has meandered into some nonproductive and harmful ideas, but that…
/r/MensRights28/02/18 12:53 AM
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It really makes me sad to know that this is the way things are. My time in the social sciences was spent with a lot of men women and others who wanted to undo the negative aspects of both gender roles. Because the classes were largely female I think it was just easier for us to work from our own experiences because we didn’t know how or what to say on behalf of men. That’s why I encouraged my guy friends to take gender classes and encouraged the guys looking for a diversity credit to actually pa…
/r/MensRights28/02/18 12:44 AM
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It was written by a man: http://www.lukeatsea.com/
/r/MensRights28/02/18 12:38 AM
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That’s generally been the conclusion I’ve drawn from the productive conversations on this thread. What are some good replacement terms. My bf and I haven’t been able to think up good ones.
/r/MensRights28/02/18 12:36 AM
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I posted this wanting to listen. I’ve done nothing but respectfully respond to comments and I’ve had some good conversations and I’ve been introduced to some quality ideas and feedback. This comic was also posted today on r/feminism where some feminists are “screeching” about how they want to encourage support systems for men. There is a large disconnect between everyday feminists and the ones vocalizing harmful ideas. Also, I’d like to personally say that it is also difficult for women to come …
/r/MensRights28/02/18 12:32 AM
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No. I even said I didn’t post this to be a troll. I’m the person that said they had a genuine interest in Men’s Rights and OP. I’m starting to think you’re trolling me?
/r/MensRights28/02/18 12:15 AM
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Wait. I am OP? I didn’t create the comic but I posted it to the page.
/r/MensRights28/02/18 12:02 AM
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Cool. I've really enjoyed reading your post and you provided a lot of good information. Could some of the problem be around how the genders are "encouraged" to interact with each other. Like, women are expecting men to be strong and don't have any past experiences that could maybe inform them on how to help their partners or male friends/peers and men are expecting women to be in touch with their emotions and possibly feel shamed when women don't know how to react to their needs.
/r/MensRights27/02/18 11:28 PM
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Yeah, I'm largely trying to say that the term was taken from those with the best interest of both men and women in mind and it's now being misused. Toxic femininity is a topic I talked about in the same conversations, but I never heard that point made. It's an interesting one and I think could actually have a place in feminism today. We talk a lot about empowering each other but maybe not enough about how we may be discouraging agency and influence by enforcing female gender roles.
/r/MensRights27/02/18 11:18 PM
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Hmm... even if you don't think it is all encompassing I think the issues brought up in the comic are still pretty solid, yeah? We should be encouraging men to be more open about asking for support and help from others. Especially men speaking with other men so that you know you are not alone :) Gender shaming is disgusting but I would say the "feminists" that shame men for their gender are not being very good feminists and aren't a good representation of the egalitarian feminism I was raised wit…
/r/MensRights27/02/18 11:11 PM
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I’ve commented elsewhere in this thread that the definition in the comic is more similar to the the definition I learned in sociology and women’s studies classes than how it is currently being (mis)used. I honestly cannot agree with you that women are the primary enforcers of gender roles. I think men and women are both perpetuating gender roles both by enforcing them within their own gender and expecting them from those of another gender. That’s a really interesting conversation.
/r/MensRights27/02/18 11:06 PM
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We did talk about toxic femininity! It was actually the same as "toxic masculinity" but substituting traditional female gender traits. One class I was in had a crazy long conversation on the very toxic behavior of how women frequently view women they are unfamiliar with as "competition" instead of equals or possible friends. We also talked about how women were very quick to judge other women on ideals that they themselves would not wish to be judged by (example: a woman without kids judging the …
/r/MensRights27/02/18 10:51 PM
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Responding to your first point: When I was first introduced to the term "toxic masculinity" it was defined in terms very similar to the ones presented in the comic. I think the term has been misused by a lot of people currently but a lot of people that learned how it was originally defined are confused and angered by how it is being misrepresented. Second and third points: We can disagree on whether or not patriarchy is real or if there is value to feminism but I'm bringing up the issue around t…
/r/MensRights27/02/18 10:44 PM
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Hmm... I would say the founders of the Western feminist movements and the beginnings of women's studies are people like Mary Wollstonecraft, and even Friedrich Engels and John Stuart Mill and Harriet Taylor Mill. Madge Dawson seems to be the person that first called it "Women's Studies". Who are you crediting with the creation of the field?
/r/MensRights27/02/18 10:33 PM
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I've seen a lot of threads on this page about how men lack the support systems when it comes to mental health and how that results in suicide. I thought this comic addressed those concerns.
/r/MensRights27/02/18 10:25 PM
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I'm constantly flabbergasted by the ways I see the term "toxic masculinity" used in mainstream media and elsewhere. When I first learned this term in my Sociology studies (years ago now) this was how toxic masculinity was defined. I think the term was taken from the women's studies / gender studies scholars and turned into something else that is now used by the aggravating but very vocal minority of feminists and non-experts commenting on the subject.
/r/MensRights27/02/18 10:22 PM
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So it is just a problem with the term, not what is in the link?
/r/MensRights27/02/18 10:06 PM
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What in the comic did you find to be misandrist?
/r/MensRights27/02/18 09:57 PM
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I hear you but maybe words other than “get fucked” would be more appropriate.
/r/MensRights25/02/18 03:57 PM
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This article is written by a man and I don’t see any quotes from women complaining about anything?
/r/MensRights23/02/18 01:31 AM
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I thought you were telling me not to confuse women and feminists earlier in the thread. A woman wrote the legislation and you pointed out that we shouldn’t assume she is a feminist.
/r/MensRights20/02/18 07:13 PM
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Now you’re saying “feminists” wrote the law lol. I think we’re getting too deep into semantics. Is writing a law for one group of people specifically excluding others? I don’t think it was a targeted anti-male legislation. Is rewriting a law to include others the same as expanding the law to include others? I think so. You might disagree. This debate doesn’t really feel productive anymore.
/r/MensRights20/02/18 07:04 PM
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The legislation was probably easier to pass because it only focused on FGM. And now that legislation is being used to end MGM. Sometimes politics works best when change is introduced incrementally and that can really suck for the people that are initially excluded (look at the long history of suffrage). But now the politician introducing the law is using the tools she has to expand coverage to all.
/r/MensRights20/02/18 06:25 PM
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I’m not saying that I believe all women are feminists, I should have been more careful with my words. There are a lot of feminists against male circumcision. Judith Butler and Jessica Valenti have both talked about this issue in their books. Writers at Hysterical Feminisms, The Femist Wire, and Everyday Feminism have come out against circumcision. Feminists shouldn’t be faulted for fighting to end FGM first, it was an easier fight because public opinion in the West was largely in agreement. And …
/r/MensRights20/02/18 06:04 PM
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I’m just trying to point out that a woman is pushing for your cause in a thread that says women and/or feminists aren’t doing enough when it comes to this issue.
/r/MensRights20/02/18 05:43 PM
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Can you read the next sentence?
/r/MensRights20/02/18 04:34 PM
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Who does the sentencing? Who designed the legal system? I think that’s an example of men hurting men. Yes, there are probably some examples of individual female judges issuing unfair verdicts, but the courts and the legal system in general has been historically male dominated. Also, property ownership went to male heirs unless a special request was made. Which means it was easier for men to own land and vote.
/r/MensRights20/02/18 04:03 PM
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She introduced debatable legislation.
/r/MensRights20/02/18 01:49 PM
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What’s your issue here?
/r/MensRights20/02/18 01:41 PM
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What?
/r/MensRights20/02/18 01:40 PM
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I’ve heard this line so many times but it just isn’t happening for me. In my eyes the patriarchy is about much more than stereotypes. It’s the historical exclusion and oppression of women by men. Can somebody explain to me how that isn’t the case?
/r/MensRights20/02/18 01:38 PM
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Could you expand on this? I want to know how you define gynocentrism and what exactly women are taking advantage of here.
/r/MensRights20/02/18 01:24 PM
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How can you confidently say “never”? The legislation to ban male circumcision in Iceland was introduced by a woman. The feminism I’ve spent years studying is largely against all child genital mutilation. Just because feminists are spending more resources fighting FGM doesn’t mean we don’t want an end to male circumcision.
/r/MensRights20/02/18 01:18 PM
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I think the issue here is: you shouldn’t alter a human body unless that human consents.
/r/MensRights20/02/18 06:09 AM
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Is this the fault of women? Wouldn’t a lot of these movies be written and/or directed by men?
/r/MensRights20/02/18 05:37 AM
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Why are we using the terms “cunt” and “whore”? Is that civil discourse?
/r/MensRights20/02/18 05:19 AM
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I’m new to this sub so I don’t really know how to bring this up but I think it’s worth mentioning that situations like this are not the fault of feminism but are the result of antiquated and unforeseen effects of “the patriarchy”. It was a male dominated legal system that encouraged women to be the sole caretakers of children. The stigma surrounding male caretakers is largely due to traditional gender roles. (I understand that it was a woman that called the cops but I don’t think women or femini…
/r/MensRights20/02/18 04:58 AM
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This legislation was introduced by a woman. I really hope men know that there are good female leaders and feminists fighting for them.
/r/MensRights20/02/18 04:36 AM
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I want to reassure men that a lot of feminists have cared about this issue for a long time. When we talk about bodily autonomy and consent, we’re talking about the rights of everyone. This woman is a leader in a religion that has largely normalized male circumcision and I don’t think she should be grouped with feminists just because she is against female circumcision.
/r/MensRights20/02/18 04:31 AM
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