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1	What is a traditional women in your view and is it feasible in modern times? Now you're just making up crap. You don't have a clue how most men on here live or how clean they keep the house.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/04/24 08:31 PM
1	What is a traditional women in your view and is it feasible in modern times? You sure sound like one.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/04/24 08:23 PM
–	Late stage feminism leads to population collapse "Brown people couldn't possibly have built a society that would allow for the building of wealth, and there must have been an outside source, and only that outside source was responsible for any success." That's what your original comment comes off as.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/04/24 07:41 PM
1	Late stage feminism leads to population collapse Sounds racist.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/04/24 02:50 PM
3	"More women should make the first move" yeah, and it would still be like Tinder You're too emotional about this to have a rational discussion.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/04/24 05:10 AM
9	"More women should make the first move" yeah, and it would still be like Tinder This is what happens with men all the time if it doesn't exactly follow the line of social expectation.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/04/24 04:37 PM
–	"More women should make the first move" yeah, and it would still be like Tinder There are a lot of guys who workout a lot and never get any better looking. Genetics are a huge factor.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/04/24 04:25 PM
–	"More women should make the first move" yeah, and it would still be like Tinder It's only attractive (top 20%) men that ever get these signals. There's a lot of talk that guys are bad at "reading signals", but I think it's just to save face as the majority of guys will hardly get any signals of interest. The other side of it is guys can see the signals but they're just not interested in the girl and thus do nothing about it. Signals are actually quite obvious, though they are rare to non-existent for the average guy.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/04/24 04:21 PM
1	Late stage feminism leads to population collapse Society absolutely did respect mother's and wives.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/04/24 03:54 AM
-4	Late stage feminism leads to population collapse Modern day society is very backwards, yes.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/04/24 02:31 PM
-7	Late stage feminism leads to population collapse Or society's script is just changing and it is more acceptable in this day and age to be a slut and party throughout your 20s than it is to be a wife and mother. Women are still choosing what they're socialized to choose.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/04/24 02:27 PM
1	Late stage feminism leads to population collapse Saudi Arabia has a GDP (PPP) per capita very similar to the US and above most western European nations. Their economy is doing so well that they can afford to implement frivolous projects like The Line and building entirely new cities in the desert. Saudi Arabia is doing just fine economically.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/04/24 02:23 PM
1	Men's hatred/disdain for women is due to one simple fact..they don't understand them. Says someone who understands absolutely nothing about the male experience. Shy women are accommodated and invited to social functions where they can practice socialization skills. Shy men are not accommodated at all, actively avoided, and certainly not invited to most social functions.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/04/24 01:55 PM
-2	Men's hatred/disdain for women is due to one simple fact..they don't understand them. Women are treated better by default, even if they're awkward or shy. Meanwhile awkward and shy guys are actively shunned. That's certainly one reason why socialization is harder for men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/04/24 05:30 AM
1	Most men allow themselves to be used by women just to get sex and validation in return. So it's okay to treat other people with disrespect just because there's a chance that they MIGHT disrespect you? This is just yet more evidence of the paradox of choice that online dating has allowed and further dehumanization of our interactions with other people. If someone is being an asshole about being rejected, then yes, that should be and likely is already shamed. I still find little justification for ghosting unless the guy is a stalker or something. It's a disrespectful and shitty thing…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/04/24 10:11 PM
–	How can the average woman afford to be so picky with who she dates? It's because social media significantly inflated women's worth and, by the same token, deflated men's worth. Their should be a punitive tax on social media for the trillions of dollars of economic damage it has caused, including sinking the birth rates below replacement rates.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/04/24 07:33 PM
1	Most men allow themselves to be used by women just to get sex and validation in return. Are you suggesting to move? As I feel there is nothing special about the US, but I would be abandoning my whole family, so not really an option.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/04/24 02:26 PM
2	Direct Approach: “can I sit down here?” Parties that you're not invited to, bars and clubs where you can barely hear the other person and are shutdown rudely or because her fat friend wants to be a cockblock. A lot of those places aren't any less hostile towards men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/04/24 01:13 PM
1	Most men allow themselves to be used by women just to get sex and validation in return. America is the default setting on reddit and yes, most women expect the man to pay here.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/04/24 01:08 PM
1	Most men allow themselves to be used by women just to get sex and validation in return. I think what has increased is things like ghosting and other bad or disrespectful behaviors even after the man pays. I also think women expect too much on first dates. They expect to fall head over heels on a first coffee date whereas in the past they'd likely be more likely to go on a second date even if the first was mediocre.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/04/24 01:01 PM
1	Direct Approach: “can I sit down here?” Asking is the more appropriate thing. The other thing could work with the right personality type, but I'd avoid it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/04/24 05:24 AM
0	Direct Approach: “can I sit down here?” Terrible advice.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/04/24 05:17 AM
1	Direct Approach: “can I sit down here?” Has a lot to do with it and what other justification is needed?	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/04/24 05:15 AM
1	Direct Approach: “can I sit down here?” Guy above gave you terrible advice. Shoot your shot. The conditions are never going to be perfect. If you're average, women are almost never going to give you a signal to cold approach. Just do it and see how it goes.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/04/24 05:15 AM
1	Women egocentrically define "maturity" and "responsibility" in terms of their own gender role Maybe you should stop hanging out with seedy men then, because it's pretty similar across sexes. In fact, I've encountered more females with cleanliness problems than males. Okay good, wouldn't want anything to do with you anyways.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/04/24 11:38 PM
–	As a man I honestly can't see whats unattractive about short men. Doesn't work like that. If you're average or below in looks, it doesn't matter what height you are. Women will ignore you.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/04/24 11:33 PM
–	As a man I honestly can't see whats unattractive about short men. Women don't look at average guys, period. Probably has little to do with your height. I'm 6'3 and women don't look at me either bro.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/04/24 11:07 PM
–	As a man I honestly can't see whats unattractive about short men. I'm well over 6' and my height hasn't done shit for me in dating. Facial attractiveness is about 100x more important. I've seen quite a few 5'8-5'9 guys that can pull absolute hotties if they're facially attractive, yet I struggle to even pull whales. Short guys probably aren't struggling in dating because they're short. It's much more likely that they're ugly guys who happen to be short. Ugly is the problem, not short lol.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/04/24 11:02 PM
1	Women egocentrically define "maturity" and "responsibility" in terms of their own gender role Just as many women live in "squalor". My big thing is don't leave food laying around. It can be a mess but not disgusting if there's not expired food everywhere. No, if a woman nags a man to do something, it's more likely she's just a nagging bitch. There's a lot of reasons women nag that have nothing to do with actual cleanliness.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/04/24 10:39 PM
1	Women egocentrically define "maturity" and "responsibility" in terms of their own gender role They do what they are sufficient with. Plenty of single men live alone and keep a clean enough house. In relationships, women will nag about it because it's not good enough for her or she just didn't like the way he does it. Women nag as much as they do housework and consider that as part of housework time lol.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/04/24 09:20 PM
2	The idea of men wanting traditional pure wives is false in reality Because men have a preference, which all people are allowed to have, it's only men that are hypocrites about it?	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/04/24 06:35 PM
-1	Women egocentrically define "maturity" and "responsibility" in terms of their own gender role Maybe women are far less efficient than men at housework and that's why it takes them longer. I live alone and it takes me at most 30 minutes a week to take care of everything I need to do around the house. There's more and better appliances than what was around in our mother's and grandmother's days. If housework is really that big of a conflict area, you've got the option to just get a robot vacuum cleaner and better, more time efficient appliances. Most of the newer dishwashers you don't even…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/04/24 05:23 AM
1	Where does the belief that women only show interest in/ have sex with men in the top 20%, but then later settle for the bottom 80% come from? Same thing Hitler said, so your argument corresponds with that. Just saying.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/04/24 10:40 PM
1	Where does the belief that women only show interest in/ have sex with men in the top 20%, but then later settle for the bottom 80% come from? This is a proper debate. Your argument just happens to be a social darwinism theory which is uncannily similar to the same arguments Hitler and the Nazis made. Those are the facts of it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/04/24 08:02 PM
1	Where does the belief that women only show interest in/ have sex with men in the top 20%, but then later settle for the bottom 80% come from? You're the one who is propagating a social darwinism theory which was also extremely popular within Nazi ideology, and which the Nazis used as justification for the holocaust. Those are facts. If you don't like those facts, then maybe you should do some self-reflection.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/04/24 07:55 PM
1	Where does the belief that women only show interest in/ have sex with men in the top 20%, but then later settle for the bottom 80% come from? Hitler was in power for nearly a decade before genocide even happened. Just letting you know your arguments for social darwinism sound like the exact same types of arguments Hitler and the Nazis made prior to WWII.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/04/24 07:04 PM
1	Where does the belief that women only show interest in/ have sex with men in the top 20%, but then later settle for the bottom 80% come from? You know what this social darwinism you're spewing sounds a lot like? Hitler and the Nazis... Mirror image arguments that you're making.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/04/24 06:40 PM
-2	Where does the belief that women only show interest in/ have sex with men in the top 20%, but then later settle for the bottom 80% come from? Population was rising when women were traditional and not as superficial. Birth rate is dropping like a rock everywhere now that women have more freedom to chase after superficial things. And no, women all want the same damn things which is quite obvious. You say you like different types of men, but it is still different types of men within that top 20 percent bracket.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/04/24 12:01 PM
5	Where does the belief that women only show interest in/ have sex with men in the top 20%, but then later settle for the bottom 80% come from? Makeup is big for sure. Women have something that can improve their looks by 2 points on average on a 10 pt scale while men don't really have that option.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/04/24 04:31 AM
1	Where does the belief that women only show interest in/ have sex with men in the top 20%, but then later settle for the bottom 80% come from? Video games and television have done a lot to distract these men. Otherwise they would have started a revolt a long time ago lol.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/04/24 04:19 AM
3	Where does the belief that women only show interest in/ have sex with men in the top 20%, but then later settle for the bottom 80% come from? Then women will just raise their standards even higher in a hypergamous race to the bottom... I don't think men 500 years ago had as much trouble finding women, but at the same time those men were poorly educated, poorly groomed, smelled worse, and made less income than what an average man does today. Men today are as good as they ever were and yet the majority aren't even good enough for most of today's women due to out of whack standards.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/04/24 04:14 AM
-2	Study shows men view their ex partners much more fondly than women do, matches up with my experience. What are your thoughts? Women are more egotistical. It's a bigger hit to their ego if things don't work out in most cases than it is to a man's ego. I remember the good moments too and don't think particularly ill of my ex.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/04/24 11:48 PM
3	Men who are concerned with lack of women in their life, have you even tried maximizing your chances? I get better quality interactions from beautiful women than I do from average or below average women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/04/24 12:00 AM
0	What is a traditional women in your view and is it feasible in modern times? This is a prime example of a fake traditional woman. A woman who says they want a provider, but only says that so they can manipulate the man into paying for things, and meanwhile these women tend to neglect most or all of the other feminine duties that define a traditional woman.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/04/24 06:37 PM
-1	What is a traditional women in your view and is it feasible in modern times? Women aren't women anymore. They've neglected all feminine duties and responsibilities. Yet at the same time they still expect men to hold onto their traditional responsibilities of being a provider in addition to new social and grooming standards while at the same time these women will only offer conditional love and support and loyalty is far from a guarantee. Men now have to work 3-5x harder to attain women 3-5x worse than what their fathers had.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/04/24 06:31 PM
2	Who/what is maintaining the higher beauty standards for women? I don't think beauty standards are higher for women. If you look at men, men who are well groomed and well dressed are treated better by default, just like women who take care of their appearance. Maybe for men it is called something besides "beauty", but it amounts to the same thing. I don't think proportionally there is much of a difference between the sexes here. I see pretty much an equal proportion of women as men who don't give a shit about their appearance, and a roughly equivalent propor…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/04/24 03:14 PM
1	Men’s standards are just as problematic as women’s. Sure, the shitty women should pair up with the shitty men, and I have no problem with that. Meanwhile there's a lot of truly good men of high moral character that seem to be getting the short end of the stick. A man, being brought up and raised the right way, only then to see the local crack addicts having no problem finding girlfriends, but yet he can't get one to save his own life, makes you feel inadequate in many ways. A lot of men are following societal expectation and getting fucked over f…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/04/24 05:24 AM
1	Men’s standards are just as problematic as women’s. When it comes to things that actually matter, such as relationship stability, compatible personalities, and character, yes. For the superficial things like the clothes a guy wears or looks, the standards are too high.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/04/24 05:11 AM
4	Men’s standards are just as problematic as women’s. Smart men do care about it. It's a societal issue and there is plenty of evidence it is an unsustainable societal issue. The response isn't going to be based on personal feelings, it's going to be based on correcting severe societal issues.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/24 03:35 PM
1	Men’s standards are just as problematic as women’s. Average woman isn't fat either. You're talking about something that's 6 sigma and comparing it to something that's like 1 sigma like it's a fair comparison.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/24 03:21 AM
4	Men’s standards are just as problematic as women’s. You're right about most of the things you say. But you seem to be missing the bigger picture. Women acting free of societal pressures is inherently unstable and a large part of why we're seeing the birth rate drop to well below replacement levels. There's probably a good reason we don't see a lot of matriarchal societies in the historical record. They're inherently unstable and become dysfunctional and self-defeating by default.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/24 02:53 AM
2	Men’s standards are just as problematic as women’s. I think 'deserve' is a strong word there, but you are right about the market determining value. Thing is, market values have changed in the past and it's certainly possible they will change again in the future. I guess the sad thing about where market values are right now is that when men had the higher value, they tended to bring their women up along with them, while with women, now that they have higher value, this tends not be the case, as they will only go for guys who have high value in the…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/24 01:30 AM
3	Men’s standards are just as problematic as women’s. The goal is not to talk. The goal is to fuck lol.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/24 01:11 AM
2	Men’s standards are just as problematic as women’s. NBA players are extremely rare. 6 figure salaries are still quite rare. Thin young beautiful women aren't all that rare, and certainly not cute, mildly overweight women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/24 01:00 AM
3	Men’s standards are just as problematic as women’s. Women do a shit job of that. Why the low income/drug addict/welfare queens have the highest birth rate?	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/24 12:49 AM
0	Alimony is a joke and so is marriage And I was correcting yours.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/03/24 05:08 PM
0	Alimony is a joke and so is marriage It's not easy to buy stock in a private company, which Amazon was at the time. Sure she deserves some compensation for being involved early, but it's much less than the billions she got in divorce settlement. That's billions in value which she had absolutely nothing to do with.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/03/24 04:14 PM
1	People are way too obsessed with finding happiness and it's one of the reasons why relationships are in such a poor place. I'm not. If I were born just 10 years earlier or later, my life would have been a whole lot different and a lot better. I got sandwiched in the worst possible time based on my aptitudes.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/03/24 04:06 PM
1	Alimony is a joke and so is marriage What was the value of amazon in 1996? I think this just proves Jeff was a dumbass cuck for not having a prenup to protect his business assets.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/03/24 03:48 PM
1	People are way too obsessed with finding happiness and it's one of the reasons why relationships are in such a poor place. I'm not saying it's right. I'm saying that's how it is.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/03/24 03:42 PM
1	Alimony is a joke and so is marriage Goes without saying.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/03/24 02:54 PM
1	People are way too obsessed with finding happiness and it's one of the reasons why relationships are in such a poor place. At least men were respected and had purpose.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/03/24 02:53 PM
1	Alimony is a joke and so is marriage This is BS. You feel entitled to a rich man's money just because you have a vagina.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/03/24 02:51 PM
1	Alimony is a joke and so is marriage For the average couple, most wealth generated during a marriage is concentrated in the home and a non-working SAHP should get consideration there. If there are no kids in the picture, the non-working spouse shouldn't get shit.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/03/24 02:50 PM
2	Alimony is a joke and so is marriage Only some do and even of those a lot are leaky. How did Jeff Bezos wife get so rich after divorce? I don't think she had anything to do with HIS business, so she shouldn't have gotten any of the assets that came from that.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/03/24 02:47 PM
3	Alimony is a joke and so is marriage I don't understand why rich people get married. Seems to be far more that can go wrong than right in those cases. For the average male though, the evidence shows marriage is undoubtedly good for them in the majority of cases. I think it's the same for average women too.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/03/24 05:33 AM
0	Alimony is a joke and so is marriage Alimony is a joke, yes. Child support is not, but I do think it should be tied to some sort of a "minimal living standard". No child needs a million dollars per annum to live off of. Separation of assets during divorce is a little trickier. I do think if a non-working spouse was a SAHP, they should be entitled up to 30-50% of the value of the primary residence. Although the parent paying the mortgage should not be the one kicked out of the house. In the case of business ownership, there should b…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/03/24 05:21 AM
1	What do you think is contributing to the male loneliness epidemic? Learn to read.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/03/24 01:13 AM
1	What do you think is contributing to the male loneliness epidemic? This is wrong, unless you live in California. If so, my advice is to move away from California.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/03/24 11:05 PM
1	What do you think is contributing to the male loneliness epidemic? Your arguments are so bad that I have no desire to discuss anything with you.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/03/24 11:02 PM
1	What do you think is contributing to the male loneliness epidemic? You're insufferable and I'm tired of talking to you.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/03/24 09:44 PM
1	What do you think is contributing to the male loneliness epidemic? It is well recognized in the fields of sociology and psychology that women entering the workforce is the major cause of plummeting birth rates. If you want to dispute that, then where are your peer-reviewed sources stating otherwise? People certainly aren't any poorer today than they were in previous generations, as gdp per capita growth has only increased over time. It's not any more expensive to live now than it was at any other time where birth rates were much higher.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/03/24 09:13 PM
–	Nostalgia or was it simply better? None of this red pill, blue pill crap even existed back then, nor was there a need for it. I think that alone signals things were simply better, especially before social media took off.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/03/24 07:34 PM
–	Nostalgia or was it simply better? Great description. Perfect encapsulation of what I see.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/03/24 07:28 PM
–	Nostalgia or was it simply better? cough cough Mudshark	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/03/24 06:28 PM
–	Nostalgia or was it simply better? There's just as many today.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/03/24 06:20 PM
–	Nostalgia or was it simply better? Yeah. My comment was intended to take on more of a critical tone. The solution is obvious. But actually reaching the solution won't happen as long as the status quo remains.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/03/24 05:53 PM
–	Nostalgia or was it simply better? People still stand several feet back in lines. You never saw that pre-covid.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/03/24 05:44 PM
–	Nostalgia or was it simply better? Sensible regulation for one. A two party system that isn't divided along the wrong lines would be another. Both of these things would have allowed for a recognition of the destructive effects of social media and the urge to do something about it. As it stands now, even the recognition is still hardly there.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/03/24 05:42 PM
3	People are way too obsessed with finding happiness and it's one of the reasons why relationships are in such a poor place. Not really. Finished a book in my 20s hasn't done shit for my dating life. Being a beast at flag football which I enjoy a lot hasn't done shit for my dating life. Going back to school to get my master's degree hasn't done shit for my dating life. I can get personal fulfillment from these things that have no or even negative impact on dating.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/03/24 03:47 PM
1	People are way too obsessed with finding happiness and it's one of the reasons why relationships are in such a poor place. It really isn't.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/03/24 03:36 PM
3	Modern Dating Doesn’t Actually Work Just a stupid comment.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/03/24 02:05 PM
1	What do you think is contributing to the male loneliness epidemic? That's literally how society existed for a long time and things worked just fine. Now the situation is we have no prior precedent where the birth rate is well below replacement rate and still plummeting, a cause which can mostly be attributed to women joining the workforce. We have no precedent for the instability and unsustainability this will bring.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/03/24 07:43 PM
2	Why should women take advice from people who loathe them? Yeah that's part of it. The other part is these self-respecting men would want nothing to with these selfish, neurotic women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/03/24 02:44 PM
0	What do you think is contributing to the male loneliness epidemic? What you suggested is a hypothetical that is so far in left field and not even worth debating if you're going to argue like a child.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/03/24 04:10 AM
0	What do you think is contributing to the male loneliness epidemic? Don't deal in those type of hypotheticals.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/03/24 12:18 AM
0	What do you think is contributing to the male loneliness epidemic? Doesn't sound insane at all, more like practical.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/03/24 11:40 PM
1	What do you think is contributing to the male loneliness epidemic? Not if it doesn't benefit me.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/03/24 11:38 PM
1	What do you think is contributing to the male loneliness epidemic? Some, yes. Like someone else said, friend loneliness and romantic loneliness are different. Even hobbies and friends are different. A man could have a lot of hobbies and few, if any, friends.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/03/24 11:31 PM
0	Why should women take advice from people who loathe them? Advising women to be attractive so they can find their best possible match and carry out feminine roles and ways of living is bad advice? And that this type of lifestyle might be more beneficial and align more properly with the facts of women's biology by having children at the proper time, instead of the alternative of whoring around throughout your 20s and early 30s and finally settling down by your late 30s when it's almost already too late to have children and when just about every good man …	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/03/24 05:54 PM