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| 1 | "Let’s Stop Cheapening Combat: Women Are Not the Primary Victims of War" - Response to Hilary Cliniton's (and general feminism's) WoMeNZ MoST AfFecTeDI find it a rather depressing to think that without armies everyone would immediately get slaughtered. I guess I won't change your view here. You're right that civilians does not only mean women. No-one was equating them both. The thing you missed here is that there are war tactics deliberately aimed at women. Lets take the El Salvadorian Civil War the CIA mingled in that Hillary spoke about as example. 1,000,000 refugees, mostly women. "Only" 27,000 military died. But also at least 50,000 civil… | /r/MensRights | 04/01/21 12:43 AM |
| 1 | "Let’s Stop Cheapening Combat: Women Are Not the Primary Victims of War" - Response to Hilary Cliniton's (and general feminism's) WoMeNZ MoST AfFecTeDSorry, but if military was first and foremost defensive there would be no wars.. you know because everybody just chilling at home. I'm not saying soldiers have it easy - I'm just saying that people who think war is necessary (or maybe even a good thing) are over-represented in the military. There are many countries with little to no army that are doing quite fine. Having a large attack-ready army is historically not the best way to avoid armed conflict. "It is unrelated. Read the damn quote." Pl… | /r/MensRights | 03/01/21 08:19 PM |
| 1 | "Let’s Stop Cheapening Combat: Women Are Not the Primary Victims of War" - Response to Hilary Cliniton's (and general feminism's) WoMeNZ MoST AfFecTeDWe might agree, if I understand you correctly, that the gender of the people suffering shouldn't matter. Yet this thread isn't replying that to Hillary, it is adamant that men have it far, far worse.Of course we can debate how much choice a soldier has to simply walk away (I would argue one always has a choice) but it is clear that a woman getting raped has less choice than her rapist. My example had two goals - illustrate the blame factor and the inadequacy in which news, media and pop culture … | /r/MensRights | 03/01/21 06:36 PM |
| 1 | "Let’s Stop Cheapening Combat: Women Are Not the Primary Victims of War" - Response to Hilary Cliniton's (and general feminism's) WoMeNZ MoST AfFecTeDI don't know where you're from, but at least in the US military service is a choice. Maybe a hard choice - but I know I would refuse. When you choose to take this profession you know you could get killed. You take on the risk of being responsible for innocent peoples deaths. "You're downplaying the atrocity of war" - we are literally talking about how they are too high - just that civilians (the ones without guns) are suffering at least as much as the soldiers (the ones with guns). "Domestic ter… | /r/MensRights | 03/01/21 05:19 PM |
| -2 | "Let’s Stop Cheapening Combat: Women Are Not the Primary Victims of War" - Response to Hilary Cliniton's (and general feminism's) WoMeNZ MoST AfFecTeDI agree, it's hard to argue with death being rather severe but come with me on a journey to a somewhat outside perspective. War is something that is done, an action. There are victims, but (as we said) it's not useful to rank suffering. But it is comically unjust to not talk about blame here. Men plan war, start war, fight war but everybody is suffering. Imagine two men, one drunk and driving, crashing into a car with two women. Both men and the woman dies, one woman stays in a wheelchair. There… | /r/MensRights | 02/01/21 03:37 PM |
| -6 | "Let’s Stop Cheapening Combat: Women Are Not the Primary Victims of War" - Response to Hilary Cliniton's (and general feminism's) WoMeNZ MoST AfFecTeDIt's clear you think all what's happening in a war is combat. And yeah, it's what video games, movies and even history book focus on, so I can understand how you could get this view. I don't think you're wrong, you're just missing around 80% of the point, because you like the pow-pow and the kaboom so much. | /r/MensRights | 02/01/21 02:34 PM |
| -12 | "Let’s Stop Cheapening Combat: Women Are Not the Primary Victims of War" - Response to Hilary Cliniton's (and general feminism's) WoMeNZ MoST AfFecTeDPeople in combat, majority male, make up a very small percentage of the general population. Also despite all the people here seeming to know otherwise, there are very little rallies from actual military personal chanting "we want less war". Still, domestic terror is a war tactic in every war. Also, in the very patriachic societies were most wars nowadays take place, a male casuality does not only mean a sad wife, but more often than not a starving, vulnerable family. It really shouldn't be a com… | /r/MensRights | 02/01/21 08:32 AM |
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