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| 25 | Mensrights, what are some things you see other men doing/saying that you think are unhelpful to the Men's Rights movement? | oneeyedgoat41 | /r/MensRights | 01/08/13 12:16 AM |
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| 1 | Promiscuity, Narcissism and GenderThe whole thing actually, but most of all the second portion. How do you know that narcissism is "on the rise," what do you mean when you say it makes people both more and less promiscuous, and how is it more complicated than the way it was framed by OP? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/03/15 06:43 AM |
| 4 | Promiscuity, Narcissism and GenderCan you expand on this please? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/15 06:39 PM |
| 1 | I don't understand why 'hypergamy' is bad.You said in your response that polygyny and/or a lack of committed relationships (because people are too busy just hooking up) are "bad for society." How is that so? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/14 03:12 PM |
| 1 | Facebook woman gets defensive over diamond valueThat's definitely silly of her, but how is it relevant to Men's Rights? | /r/MensRights | 18/02/14 08:46 PM |
| 1 | Mensrights, what are some things you see other men doing/saying that you think are unhelpful to the Men's Rights movement?You actually read the question correctly, and the example you gave me was one of the reasons I started the thread. Thanks for responding :-). | /r/MensRights | 01/08/13 11:26 PM |
| 1 | Mensrights, what are some things you see other men doing/saying that you think are unhelpful to the Men's Rights movement?I think we are in agreement then, unless you don't. | /r/MensRights | 01/08/13 04:57 PM |
| 1 | Mensrights, what are some things you see other men doing/saying that you think are unhelpful to the Men's Rights movement?I'm down with that :-) | /r/MensRights | 01/08/13 04:57 PM |
| 1 | Mensrights, what are some things you see other men doing/saying that you think are unhelpful to the Men's Rights movement?What makes you say that? | /r/MensRights | 01/08/13 04:07 PM |
| 1 | Mensrights, what are some things you see other men doing/saying that you think are unhelpful to the Men's Rights movement?I understand what you are saying, although I don't think anybody is qualified to tell someone else what they do believe just because of the word they used for it. However, they can explain to the person how the word tends to be used and connotations that other people might assume comes with it, that they need to look out for. I have seen the word "feminism" used in a radical, unfair sense and in a more egalitarian sense. When I use it, I always try to make clear that I mean it in an egalitarian … | /r/MensRights | 01/08/13 02:33 PM |
| 2 | Mensrights, what are some things you see other men doing/saying that you think are unhelpful to the Men's Rights movement?I see what you are saying. Totally with you there. | /r/MensRights | 01/08/13 02:23 PM |
| 1 | Mensrights, what are some things you see other men doing/saying that you think are unhelpful to the Men's Rights movement?I actually think this is okay, since it is pointing out a direct and blatant double standard. However, it is unusual and refreshing to see someone on any activism sub not trying to "fight back at all costs" and evaluate on a case-by-case basis what is useful and what isn't. Thanks for the response! | /r/MensRights | 01/08/13 02:21 PM |
| 1 | Mensrights, what are some things you see other men doing/saying that you think are unhelpful to the Men's Rights movement?That was wonderfully worded. I personally have become disenchanted with a whole lot of activist/social change groups on pretty much any issue you can imagine although, for the most part, I tend to think people I meet in contexts unrelated to them are generally pretty sane and reasonable, the most relevant example being that most "real life" MRAs AND feminists are reasonable and realize the two ideas don't contradict each other, while I find that the subreddits related to both of those ideas have… | /r/MensRights | 01/08/13 02:15 PM |
| 2 | Mensrights, what are some things you see other men doing/saying that you think are unhelpful to the Men's Rights movement?I am with you here, and I think this applies to any social issue. People use this tactic for just about anything, and it does nothing but waste everybody's time. | /r/MensRights | 01/08/13 02:09 PM |
| 1 | Mensrights, what are some things you see other men doing/saying that you think are unhelpful to the Men's Rights movement?Oh I see. | /r/MensRights | 01/08/13 02:07 PM |
| 1 | Mensrights, what are some things you see other men doing/saying that you think are unhelpful to the Men's Rights movement?Haha what? Did you mean to post this somewhere else? | /r/MensRights | 01/08/13 03:18 AM |
| 0 | Mensrights, what are some things you see other men doing/saying that you think are unhelpful to the Men's Rights movement?What do you mean by that? I don't disagree with what you just said, but my question is more about what other men do that make it more difficult for you to take those rights. You certainly can take them, but it is obviously easier if the world is on your side, and convincing people of your position is part (not all) of what the men's rights movement is about, right? | /r/MensRights | 01/08/13 02:23 AM |
| 3 | Mensrights, what are some things you see other men doing/saying that you think are unhelpful to the Men's Rights movement?What do you mean specifically? | /r/MensRights | 01/08/13 02:21 AM |
| 1 | Mensrights, what are some things you see other men doing/saying that you think are unhelpful to the Men's Rights movement?I can agree with that. I actually started this thread because I noticed that there are a lot of men who don't seem to think that men can be raped (by men or women), or shame men into not reporting it when it does happen. Yeah, I see where you are going there though. People in general do fucked up shit. It doesn't have to be about gender. | /r/MensRights | 01/08/13 02:20 AM |
| 3 | Mensrights, what are some things you see other men doing/saying that you think are unhelpful to the Men's Rights movement?That is an interesting perspective. I actually kinda thought the "women do bad stuff too" thing was helpful (as long as it isn't the ONLY thing we see being posted). I see your point though. I'll have to think about it. Thank you for that! | /r/MensRights | 01/08/13 02:11 AM |
| 0 | Mensrights, what are some things you see other men doing/saying that you think are unhelpful to the Men's Rights movement?Can you clarify what you mean? I identify as a feminist and my definition of "feminism" is the idea that men and women should have equal social and legal opportunities and responsibilities and be treated as similarly as possible (I understand that everybody, male and female, probably behaves in a sexist manner to some extent without realizing it). I would not call that gynocentric. It is also the same reason that I think the Men's Rights movement is important. I understand that there are some pe… | /r/MensRights | 01/08/13 02:00 AM |
| 2 | Mensrights, what are some things you see other men doing/saying that you think are unhelpful to the Men's Rights movement?You used it in a very strange context for it to be considered offensive too :-p | /r/MensRights | 01/08/13 01:27 AM |
| 2 | Mensrights, what are some things you see other men doing/saying that you think are unhelpful to the Men's Rights movement?To be clear, when you call "feminism" gynocentric, you are referring to the women > men kind, as opposed to the equality kind, right? | /r/MensRights | 01/08/13 01:25 AM |
| 0 | Pattern I've noticed with younger women: "I tell my mom everything, but my dad doesn't know [about my carousel riding]."I actually reveal it to everyone. Whenever anybody says something that propagates the stigma. I'll say something like "Dude, I have herpes, it's no big." If the social situation allows for it, I'll explain why it is no big. And you could say I am one of the "lucky ones" because I have only had one outbreak and it didn't matter, but the majority of people who have herpes never have an outbreak. The ones that do often have outbreaks further apart from each other and milder as time goes on. Most pe… | /r/TheRedPill | 26/07/13 05:05 PM |
| 1 | Pattern I've noticed with younger women: "I tell my mom everything, but my dad doesn't know [about my carousel riding]."I think you are thinking of HPV (the group of viruses that causes genital warts and can increase one's odds of cervical cancer). Once you have had one of those for about two years, the virus is still in your body forever but you don't have symptoms any more and you can't pass it to others. Herpes is always transmissible but most people who have outbreaks at all, have fewer and more mild outbreaks the longer they have it. Some people stop having them altogether (most people who have herpes never … | /r/TheRedPill | 26/07/13 04:50 PM |
| 3 | Pattern I've noticed with younger women: "I tell my mom everything, but my dad doesn't know [about my carousel riding]."Yup. Herpes is very easily transmissible. That is why most people have HSV-1 (have you ever had a cankersore or coldsore? HSV-1 is "usually" in your mouth). The HSV-2 numbers are lower (stats vary from 1 in 4 Americans to 1 in 6). The common cold is also easy to catch. I would still rather have that than HIV. Just because it is easily transmissible doesn't mean it is a big deal. HIV is difficult to transmit but has a far worse effect on your life than herpes. Chlamydia and gonorrhoea are also ea… | /r/TheRedPill | 25/07/13 06:49 PM |
| -6 | Pattern I've noticed with younger women: "I tell my mom everything, but my dad doesn't know [about my carousel riding]."Herpes is actually not a huge deal. Most people never have symptoms, or symptoms so mild they don't notice, and a far larger portion of the American populace has it than a lot of people realize. You might have it and not know it. Worry about HIV instead. | /r/TheRedPill | 25/07/13 04:47 PM |
| 1 | Someone's workplace gets it right. (x-post from r/pics.)Roflmao! Did she sit down without looking and pee on it or something? I'll admit, that's happened to me before. | /r/MensRights | 23/06/13 11:26 PM |
| 1 | Someone's workplace gets it right. (x-post from r/pics.)That sounds like a great idea ;-) | /r/MensRights | 23/06/13 01:15 AM |
| 1 | Someone's workplace gets it right. (x-post from r/pics.)It would be ridiculous of me to disagree that there are fundamental differences between men and women, including when it comes to personality traits, and we even have the science to confirm, or in some cases to surprise us as far as, what they are. However, making broad statements like that that are so loosely based on what we've been able to understand so far about our evolution can be a risky/futile exercise, and it doesn't really make sense to have discussions based on assumptions like that w… | /r/MensRights | 22/06/13 04:42 PM |
| 3 | Someone's workplace gets it right. (x-post from r/pics.)Why would that be the case? | /r/MensRights | 22/06/13 04:38 PM |
| 1 | Someone's workplace gets it right. (x-post from r/pics.)If you are thinking of what he/she said as an example of this "fundamental difference between men and women," which is what it seems like, that doesn't entirely make sense. | /r/MensRights | 22/06/13 04:30 AM |
| 1 | Someone's workplace gets it right. (x-post from r/pics.)Dude, /u/Happypants might be a chick. Just saying. | /r/MensRights | 22/06/13 12:53 AM |
| 159 | Someone's workplace gets it right. (x-post from r/pics.)How about everyone closes the seat and the lid because that's the sanitary thing to do? Edit: Although if there is no lid, I agree wholeheartedly. | /r/MensRights | 22/06/13 12:51 AM |
| 2 | man who allegedly tricked pregnant girlfriend into taking abortion drug charged with first-degree murder for death of fetusThank you for the helpful response. Could have done without the snarkiness though. | /r/MensRights | 17/05/13 06:23 AM |
| 0 | man who allegedly tricked pregnant girlfriend into taking abortion drug charged with first-degree murder for death of fetusThank you! That was helpful. | /r/MensRights | 17/05/13 06:21 AM |
| -2 | man who allegedly tricked pregnant girlfriend into taking abortion drug charged with first-degree murder for death of fetusHow is this a men's rights issue? Any female could have done this too. | /r/MensRights | 17/05/13 01:07 AM |
| -2 | How feminists misunderstand masculinityDid you stop reading what I wrote right there? I followed that up with "I have a problem with the misogynistic porn. And to make it even clearer, I don't have a problem with it existing, I have a problem with the fact that many people think that that kind of sex is the norm." The same is true of every example you followed that up with. I don't mind any of it existing, but I would not be cool with it if people thought that females dominating men was the norm either (or with it being the norm). If… | /r/TheRedPill | 13/05/13 09:07 AM |
| -5 | How feminists misunderstand masculinityRoflmao. That's cute. I'll come back when little old female me can understand your complex PhD class about what women want. | /r/TheRedPill | 13/05/13 05:56 AM |
| -6 | How feminists misunderstand masculinityThird time I have said this. I was responding to Hormander, not to OP. | /r/TheRedPill | 13/05/13 05:55 AM |
| -2 | How feminists misunderstand masculinityWhen described as you just did, I feel that I have a better understanding of what you in particular are saying. I still maintain that I personally don't feel this way (I really don't care if they are the president/accountant or captain/ballboy. I care much more if their lifestyle is compatible with mine and if they are emotionally available, fun to be around, etc., I really wouldn't care which one they were), but I understand that many women do. At the risk of sounding like I am just disagreeing… | /r/TheRedPill | 13/05/13 05:20 AM |
| -6 | How feminists misunderstand masculinityDude, I just clarified that I was making a distinction between mainstream and non-mainstream. Sure, Women masturbating is, by most definitions "mainstream," and I have no problem with that kind of porn, so I misused the word mainstream. I was referring to how misogynistic heterosexual porn is. I was not vilifying all porn. In fact, I think a lot of porn is very healthy to watch. I have a problem with the misogynistic porn. And to make it even clearer, I don't have a problem with it existing, I h… | /r/TheRedPill | 13/05/13 04:56 AM |
| -6 | How feminists misunderstand masculinityAfter watching the gif again, I can see why you would say that. For that reason, I think it was a poor example. My intention was to illustrate my personal preference (which I think is more common than many people in this thread seem to think), of sex (or sexual relationships out of the bedroom) not being a dom/sub dichotomy (either way), but those were not the best examples I could have given, for the reasons you just described. | /r/TheRedPill | 13/05/13 04:53 AM |
| -4 | How feminists misunderstand masculinityI don't understand why this is difficult. I actually responded to the OP elsewhere. The thing you just responded to was a reply to Hormander, not the OP. | /r/TheRedPill | 13/05/13 04:51 AM |
| -2 | How feminists misunderstand masculinityI don't think that's typical. That is the part I disagree with. I am glad you understand that porn does not represent real sex, but I still don't agree with your point about women preferring men who are aggressive or competitive, in or out of the bedroom. Some certainly do, but I don't think that's the norm. Maybe I am unusual but this hasn't been my experience talking to other women either. I'll assume that what you just said is based on discussions with other women too, so it is possible that … | /r/TheRedPill | 13/05/13 04:50 AM |
| -1 | How feminists misunderstand masculinityI disagree. I used sex to illustrate what I was saying, but my point remains when used in other contexts too. If you would like to choose the examples to discuss then I would gladly do so. | /r/TheRedPill | 13/05/13 04:47 AM |
| -5 | How feminists misunderstand masculinityI wasn't addressing the original post, just Hormander's comment. Also, this is why I specified mainstream porn. I am indeed a camgirl, but what I do is very, to use the term most people do, "female-friendly," even though most of my customers are men. I do not cater to requests that I think are misogynistic unless the customer is polite and has led me to believe that they are aware that many women are not into those things. If someone demonstrates that they think that most women like to be slappe… | /r/TheRedPill | 13/05/13 03:43 AM |
| -7 | How feminists misunderstand masculinityI am in complete agreement with you here. I have no problem with consenting adults doing those things, but Hormander's comment seemed to depend on the "tendency of people to think it is normal and expect it" that you speak of. | /r/TheRedPill | 13/05/13 03:39 AM |
| -5 | How feminists misunderstand masculinityI agree that, as described by you, these features are positive things to be proud of. It is unfair of so-called "feminists" to make generalizations about men in the first place to shame them for. The thing is though, there is no reason to believe that these are fundamental differences between men and women. Don't dignify the accusations that they are by agreeing to them and trying to defend them. | /r/TheRedPill | 13/05/13 01:20 AM |
| -11 | How feminists misunderstand masculinityFemale here, and a feminist (the equality kind, not the superiority kind). It is this kind of misunderstanding that keeps people angry at each other. I can't speak for all females or all feminists, but personally, I think TRProfessor and Hormander couldn't be more wrong. Stop getting your ideas about what women want from mainstream porn please. Most of it is geared towards you (or what producers think you want), not us. I get my pants wet from this: http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mdlbvsd9ho1r… | /r/TheRedPill | 13/05/13 01:18 AM |
| 53 | Friend posted this on FB. It's nice to know some people respect our right to like different body types.Female here. Totally glad someone made this. | /r/MensRights | 10/05/13 10:07 PM |
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