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It's a question to the comment op, not me?
/r/MensRights23/07/22 05:27 PM
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Woman are physically weaker, why would you want that? But with transgender, born males joining womans sports, that may be an answer to it. Well yeah biologically men are far stronger. I think the majority of feminists are being called "terfs" transgender exclusionary feminists. For relaying this biology. I have to admit I understand why this group has such a bad reputation.
/r/MensRights21/07/22 04:03 AM
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I've been banned from off my chest for even joining this group because it classes it as a redpill/incel group. There's some genuine dudes in here who have points and I like to hear opinions on all sides to grow my own perspective. But it's pretty well accepted there's allot of dudes who are seen by a majority of people to have misogynistic issues here. I'd say I'm fairly even in my opinions and a percentage of people being derogatory to them in this group, probably is a good thing.
/r/MensRights21/07/22 03:58 AM
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That's a fair point, there's feminists and feminists though. People who just want like, womans sports competitions to be fair or equal social treatment between genders. I see as fair. It's like in this group there's some with fair points and some that clearly have issues with woman. There's good and bad in each camp
/r/MensRights20/07/22 11:35 PM
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I'm sure your spell checking skills will get you far in 2022. People tend to proof read what they write when they respect the reader FYI. But I hope that felt like a win for you.
/r/MensRights20/07/22 11:11 PM
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. . . Anyone can see them reading this thread. So I'm happy with that. I've not said anything personal about you. Simply pointed out what your behaviour looks like. OK I've got better things to do than talk to someone who's squirming to avoid realising their argument lacks allot.
/r/MensRights20/07/22 10:48 PM
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. . Omg scroll up the conversation. I cba to go and get the actual quotes. But you have at the least insinuated those things while not knowing me. Now you're insinuating its in my mind or I'm projecting those as insecurities while feeling like I'm gaslighing you.. . . . This isn't sane. FYI your assumptions of me (above) because of my gender are completely wrong. But why even bother telling someone like you that. It won't go in Also your economic arguments have been erratic, based on your feelin…
/r/MensRights20/07/22 10:35 PM
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? You've told me I trap people in relationships, am obsessed with sex because I tore apart your porn pay gap argument and are now saying I'm gaslighting and emotionally abusing you. Because I find your points to be wrong. Dude. You really have lost and you do look like a womans hurt you and you're taking it out here. It just is what this looks like.
/r/MensRights20/07/22 10:24 PM
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You spit weird hate and assumptions of woman you know nothing about. And clearly feel very proud of this behaviour. Look you're not in the real world so I'm gonna go
/r/MensRights20/07/22 10:19 PM
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. . . .maybe you are actually wrong in this interaction with a stranger . . . . . I'm fairly shocked at this interaction. I hope she didn't dump you to savagely, or whatever caused this midset for you
/r/MensRights20/07/22 10:10 PM
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I don't think you know what gaslighting means? Dude which woman made you feel this way? Have you recently been dumped or something
/r/MensRights20/07/22 09:42 PM
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Bar you reading through the thread to spam reply negatives to me. I would class you as someone pleasant enough though we disagree. *I'm not going to reply to your 3 or so other comments because you seem to have a few issues
/r/MensRights20/07/22 09:38 PM
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You, . . Erm, don't know anything about me, bar my gender . . You really should seek some form of therapy
/r/MensRights20/07/22 08:49 PM
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Hahaha unlike me? Sooo you mean the most kids shouldn't be born then. Who hurt you btw? You really are incredibly angry towards general woman. It runs through all of your incoherent logic
/r/MensRights20/07/22 08:41 PM
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Allot. Cuz now you've said men shouldn't get married. It looks like you don't want children to do better on all metrics. Or be born.
/r/MensRights20/07/22 08:33 PM
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Well, then most kids would be born to a non family unit? Or do you not think woman shouldn't have kids outside of marriage aswell
/r/MensRights20/07/22 08:24 PM
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Would you prefer people to be strapped to eachother for life no matter what?
/r/MensRights20/07/22 07:54 PM
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Yeah its deffo woman divorcing poor men. Which has caused this. Like you you said causes female porn stars. God the worlds really gone backwards since womans rights movements hasn't it?
/r/MensRights20/07/22 07:49 PM
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Must be from parents who respect Mens parenting superiority
/r/MensRights20/07/22 07:39 PM
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I feel like a bloke had more of a moral argument to not be held responsible for an unwanted pregnancy when a woman could abort too. I've just thought men who want to trap woman with pregnancy have more opportunity now too tbf. Scary times. Yeah fingers crossed for us all society moves forward to somewhere near that consentual ideal
/r/MensRights20/07/22 07:23 PM
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. . . . And the gay for pay male porn stars? .. . Do you blame woman for these too?
/r/MensRights20/07/22 07:14 PM
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I don't protest equality? You seem far more likely to protest "equality" based on your strange female hate
/r/MensRights20/07/22 07:14 PM
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I think if anything the abortion ban will backfire on men more. Now if a woman wants to trap a non serious bf into being the father of her children, and paying for that child he doesn't want. She has more legal backing. Allowing abortions and creating a legal form where men have to opt in or out of parental responsibility. Seems a much fairer situation for all. Both sexes would of had the choice. Now a majority of male politicians have taken the choice away from men and woman. Based on your perc…
/r/MensRights20/07/22 07:12 PM
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Why would you ask someone to protest what you don't care about? Dude you really have shown yourself up for what you are. OK bye
/r/MensRights20/07/22 07:07 PM
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Most female porn stars are 18yo girls who are poor and dont have life experience enough to even know what they're doing. Kinda the same reason straight male porn stars end up doing mostly gay porn. I understand you want to find reasons to blame woman for things. But if there wasnt an audience for this it wouldn't happen. Who's the audience? This is the same point you made for female sports pay discrepancies FYI. To really point out how bias you are against woman
/r/MensRights20/07/22 07:04 PM
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You're talking about porn wages, asking me why I dont demonstrate to why male porn actors don't get payed more. When I reply with the factual answers. You say I'm obsessed with sex. . . . Yeah female sports wages will likely keep increasing the longer woman aren't banned from it. As in theres actually professional female leagues. Be careful what you wish for on the male porn wages you seem invested in. Equal pay will result from male sexual degration for a large female audience. You really shoul…
/r/MensRights20/07/22 06:52 PM
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Do you really want to see a world of male porn stars being sexually degraded in gross and weird ways for a large audience of woman though? Like have you thought this through, or would that upset you?
/r/MensRights20/07/22 06:35 PM
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They have demonstrations to not be banned from playing. Like female footballer in the UK were very profitable in 20's or 40's or so. but literally got banned from playing in all stadiums. Cuz men felt threatened. Google it. If female sports didn't pay for itself, if wouldn't be a thing. And it'll continue to grow now sexist rules have been torn down. It'a an industry based on profit. As you were literally just saying. Stop slut shaming woman. Straight male porn stars will earn more. End of. Stop…
/r/MensRights20/07/22 06:33 PM
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If woman weren't negatively reinforced for being sexual in general they'd watch more porn. Hence male porn star wages would go up. And not just in gay porn. Which is the societal trend of slut shaming womans fault. (Woman do that too, I'm not blaming just men for that) Men have traditionally been the wage earner. Theres still the ghost of that societal norm. Because its only been 2 generations where woman were socially accepted as a bread winner. Over the next few generations you'll see female m…
/r/MensRights20/07/22 06:21 PM
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I didn't say you were? I said your pointing out societal differences in how the sexes are treated differently, that negatively effect woman. Have you ever considered that the sports descepencies you're pointing out are because woman get called lesbians or butch for liking and playing those sports? Which accounts for womans sports not being watched by woman atleast, who are half the population. Also the porn points are because woman are punished/ looked down on for sexual behaviour where men are …
/r/MensRights20/07/22 06:02 PM
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. .but NBA players don't have people judge them more the WNBA. The points you're making are based on sexist social normals that effect woman. So really prove the opposite point you're attempting
/r/MensRights20/07/22 05:36 PM
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Yeah but that's because porn ruins womans job prospects/ dating prospects and probably improve mens
/r/MensRights20/07/22 05:27 PM
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I think the pay gap is largely a pregnancy penalty and related to the lack of paternity pay for men. So if men were incentived to stay at home with new borns, women wouldn't fall of the professional ladder for x amount of years depending how many children they have. And companies would be equally wary of each sex for being a maternity/ paternity burden/risk.
/r/MensRights20/07/22 05:26 PM
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Does your fiance make you feel like you're on eggshells? Hmm yeah that is unfortunate you've have interactions with a that many, sortof entitled types. At the end of the day no one has a monopoly om offense. You have equal right to be offended at their offence. For your own amusement I say start having offended competitions with the entitled ones.
/r/MensRights20/07/22 05:21 PM
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Overall I think there's a minority of woman who want all the benefits of anti sexism moments. Whilst keeping the benefits from sexism. I'm probs not explaining it well but this is a minority of woman and tbh they make the world a much more frustrating place
/r/MensRights20/07/22 05:14 PM
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Sounds like you've been dating girls who atleast feel completely out of your league, so expect you to simp vs "independent" thinkers. This is my "independent thought" lmao
/r/MensRights20/07/22 05:09 PM
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. . Might settle down with a nice rich guy in France. Thansk for info 🤣 Whhy is all I want to know
/r/MensRights20/07/22 02:00 AM
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LMAO.
/r/MensRights20/07/22 12:51 AM
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You'd think the Gov would love to get people's DNA on file for crime investigation etc. Yeah I kinda feel like society just need to catch up with tech but you have got me thinking on paternity stuff. Odd.
/r/MensRights19/07/22 06:21 PM
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I wouldn't worry about DNA data bases FYI. Its just people concerned about biometric security measures in the future. But realisticly were dropping our entire genetic code everywhere we go. Not exactly secure info
/r/MensRights19/07/22 05:15 PM
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Yeah that is weird. I'm sure they trace ancestry through maternal lines, because something like 1 in 10 arn't actually fathered by their fathers. Seems bizzare DNA tests wouldn't be standard now for birth certificates authenticity etc. But I spose people concerned about new born DNA harvesting and DNA databases would kick off.
/r/MensRights19/07/22 04:58 PM
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I get there'd be a little "I'm not a cheating liar" offence. But overall I think most woman would get it. I've just shared my absolute neurotic feelings there. Understandable. NTA 😆
/r/MensRights19/07/22 04:39 PM
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I'm glad we're agreed on some level atleast. Maybe I misunderstood your meaning. 💚💚💙🧡
/r/MensRights19/07/22 04:05 PM
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Was it just to save her feelings why you did secretly? I'm female and tbh I totally agree paternity testing should be standard now its cheap . I really can't see why that shouldn't be done. Is it actually illegal anywhere? I've thought about this. If or when I have kids I'll not let nurses take the baby out of my sight before I imprint and bond with that baby, while still attached to the cord. Get a pic of individual traits/ see the bracelet tag thing be put on. I'd totally even DNA test if I co…
/r/MensRights19/07/22 04:02 PM
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Woman here. Who's not a really a mens rights follower. More neutral. I really understand your point. It must be ridiculous to be expected to make the move and also be at risk of being called a creep for making a move. I trully get your point. Woman arn't likely to come onto men atall because they often get labeled as slags and not desirable if they do so. So that also contributes. It is sex stereotypes on both sides that have contributed to this incel situations. My advice. Many men are ridiculo…
/r/MensRights19/07/22 03:45 PM
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You're not refusing to percieve what I'm saying?
/r/MensRights19/07/22 03:31 PM
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You're currently in the process of doing it.
/r/MensRights19/07/22 03:26 PM
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I understand the lacking rights for men overall I think. I think men have it worse financially, retirement age, parental laws on one side of it. I trully get mens rights groups have valid points and hope these things change for the better (equalise) It's social norms that are trully weighted against woman in mu experience, Like it's just ingrained in allot of woman as well. I dont blame men it's the we're raised on both sides. But it results allot of sexual violence towards woman. Even blaming w…
/r/MensRights19/07/22 03:22 PM
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Tbh then dude. I really don't know what you're talking about. You seem to despise people you're grouping into groups that don't subscribe to your exact narratives. And this is perpetuating the issues in your own camp and opposing camps. I've tried to tell you it's not good to do this, but you won't percieve it! Lol
/r/MensRights19/07/22 03:13 PM
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The only way to dismantle those generalisations formed from traumatic events is to show empathy. Its very powerful when shown by some from that opposing group. The thing is, you are generalising people who generalise mens rights. Some people do that because of entrenched left wing style education, some narcissistic self bias that will never be changed, but I'd argue the majority do it because of experiencing trauma from men generalising them, or abusing them. Do you understand what happens with …
/r/MensRights19/07/22 02:50 PM
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.. "I'm trying to get you to comprehend that you having that world view" . . . This is literally from your last message. How could you possibly be referring to my comments on other peoples world view? You are acting irrationally now. Those questions are too widely interpreted to even know what you're asking. To give you the benefit of a majority doubt. How could understanding other peoples world view be dangouras? You clearly lack empathy if I follow the line of conversation you claim you ment.
/r/MensRights19/07/22 02:36 PM
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. . . You still don't apear to seperste understanding and justification. You don't know my world view. . . You know my view of other people views .. but again your lack of empathy isn't helping you here. You should probably stop generalising then. . . I'm lost at anything else to say to you . . I feel like a lack of empathy might make you less self aware? Because you're literally contradicting yourself and damning the same behaviour you're displaying in the same message now
/r/MensRights19/07/22 02:23 PM
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Justification and understanding arn't the same thing. You'll find trying to understand the origins of peoples behaviour can be unsavoury, particularly when their behaviour traumatises you personally. But it helps humanise those people . . Rather than ironically generaly danming them . . As you also damn them for generalising. I'm fairly empathetic. I dislike it because you have allot of guilt and fear etc that doesn't benefit you. But ultimately it allows you to forgive people (not all). Like yo…
/r/MensRights19/07/22 02:14 PM
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I don't think you're capable of understanding empathy. Most of this conversation is you attributing me explaining other peoples view origin. As my own views . I think its fair to say you lack empathy or understanding of people isn't it?
/r/MensRights19/07/22 02:02 PM
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You're talking nonsense. Because your insuations of me are from a lack of understanding of my comments empathising to people who generalise. In an effort to help you understand why they do that. Do you understand empathy? Like how would you define empathy?
/r/MensRights19/07/22 01:53 PM
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It doesn't make sense . .to you. You honestly believe your world view isn't based on your experiences in the world? Lmao that's not possible through-out biological evolution across all life. Your opinion of yourself is so off it's not even possible in all known life. . Like what? How do you think learnt anything? Knowledge has been beemed into your brain from some higher being as you coincidentally have real word experiences? . . . . . . .. . . Theres really nothing to be said to you is there.
/r/MensRights19/07/22 01:46 PM
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Its impossible for you to come to any understanding of life if that's true. Infact it's literally impossible for your logical opinion of your own behaviour to be true. . .. . I can't fathom how you've no got to trying to bulk my behaviour in with general genocidal and racist people .. . . That's actually made me lol Lmao dude. . . Wtf 😆
/r/MensRights19/07/22 01:35 PM
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Someone who's had a negative experience of MRA''s and their views come from that. Arn't being unempathetic to you personally. They have based their world view on experience. No different to you. Someone who discounts you can have negative experiences because of your gender (like I've experienced here) yeah f them. There's something deeply wrong with those people. Imo the trait of understanding your own views based on your life experiences and attributing other peoples opposing views to a persona…
/r/MensRights19/07/22 01:23 PM
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You're not showing any level of understanding or empathy towards those who don't align with your views. Depending on personal life experience, its very understandable why certain people have certain views. But you don't seem to see other people that way. Well I couldn't have responded to that comment before you made it could I. I can't even tell if you really are like this. Or just determined to find someone to oppress you Also it is quite clear your attitude towards other people being so differ…
/r/MensRights19/07/22 01:12 PM
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. . . Riight, you didn't apear to understand or accept those views are other peoples. And clearly you're not going to apologise for appropriating them to me. You've literally just said "life is miserable". Ah fs. You are insufferable.
/r/MensRights19/07/22 12:56 PM
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Yeah I can gather that about you. Everyone suffers in life. I empathise with you there, empathy for others helps. You're not alone. Many different humans are suffering. We cause some of our problems and some are societal based.
/r/MensRights19/07/22 12:53 PM
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. . . . . I've tried to help you understand the negative view of mens rights. I've conseded left wing suppress issues in the media while attempting to make you aware of the widespread impression of mens rights. In response to your statements about mens rights not being platformed. . . I'm saying your problems are likely caused by your personality. . . . Not a comment on mens rights its my personal impression of you from our interaction. It's like talking to a Brickhill desperate to find offense
/r/MensRights19/07/22 12:50 PM
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Yeah I was quite surprised my allot of the content here. I really really feel for the guys with real world issues being drawned out by the sortof, well woman hate. That's atleast what it apears to me. Hopefully I've interpreted it wrong. I think maybe new subs called "equallegalrights" for e.g. Deffo an individual issue for mens right sub could help
/r/MensRights19/07/22 12:45 PM
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Yeah really should re read this conversation. There's no point in conversing. Your intent on interpreting it to suit your victim mindset and have an oppressor. . . . Non of that is true. If you did accept theres bad an good here, it was in a way to demonise me (with wrong interpretations) than actually showing any true acceptance, empathy to why some don't support this as a whole. Look I've tried to reasonably politely say this will go nowhere and exit. Now I'm going to say you will only blame e…
/r/MensRights19/07/22 12:36 PM
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No there not. You've misread them. I've told you general opinions of MRA I've encountered and explicitly told you I don't hold those opinions. I've separated the plight of men genuinely suffering from the clear mysoginists drawn to this movement. I've simply told you my opinion and experience of why general people don't take MRA seriously. You've interpreted all that very widely. Along with refusing to accept, or ignoring that any bad actor could be an MRA and assuming I'm a bad person to discou…
/r/MensRights19/07/22 12:18 PM
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There's lots of different bias. Cognitive bias, confirmation bias etc. The way you percieve my messages, you're own opinions. Apear exceptionally effected by bias. The fact you'll never consider that a possibility is also not ideal is it. I'm aware I may be effected by bias in the way I interpret these issues based on my life experiences. Which helps in controlling bias and taking on board others perceptions. You clearly arn't going to do that. You'll blame them personally if they don't agree
/r/MensRights19/07/22 12:07 PM
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. . . . . I dont know what you're reading or replying to. . . No thats not what bias means. I've told you my entire perception. You can view it, do with it what you like. As I say, I wish you the best.
/r/MensRights19/07/22 03:48 AM
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You realise every human being alive is bias. The fact you won't entertain you are atall . .. I don't know what else to say to you. I hope you find every personal happiness. I wish you success
/r/MensRights19/07/22 03:44 AM
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Dude. That is literally a doubled down bias comment. Not that you'll take this on board because it goes against your bias. I'm trying to leave things in a slightly positive way. Because I thouraghly disagree and find you lack, choose to lack awareness. This conversation will only become more frustrating.
/r/MensRights19/07/22 03:25 AM
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Look I genuinely appreciate you came into this looking to communicate (as I did) But this will go no where. I wish you every happiness
/r/MensRights19/07/22 03:14 AM
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negative toward feminists comments I would of thought it's quite obvious i ment that with the rest of the conversation. I'm fairly sure WS's are pro life. As they're often religious and sexist. But I can't say, ive not seen them express those opinions. . Like I have mra opinions. Look you are far too bias. I give up on this communication attempted I genuinely wish you luck. I believe you'll not feel fulfilled carrying on this way.
/r/MensRights19/07/22 03:13 AM
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Nice deflection. I came her to treat men equally. That isn't what men here want. Good luck.
/r/MensRights19/07/22 02:57 AM
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But neither are influential context creators. Content creators on mens rights aren't favoured. I'm not going to biasly ignore the fact that the left wing are holding all media creators to random. But that's not the only reason. White supremacists think they're MRA's if you watch Netflix "web of lies" (about wierd cyber stuff) An episode is basically an interview with an ex w/supremacist. There's allot of crossover with the negative feminists comments you'll see here. Slut shaming etc. White supr…
/r/MensRights19/07/22 02:56 AM
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You're literally talking about why the mainstream don't recognise your issues. I'm telling you why that is from my experience. Your perspective is how white supremacists feel. .. that should tell you there's an issue
/r/MensRights19/07/22 02:45 AM
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Erm. I'm not sure you're going to non biasly look at the comments, if that's all you see. There's been three people that I've seen point out misogynistic, woman intolerance in these 600 odd comments somewhere. . . . You're literally describing how some comments have described woman "Woman have it easy" And that is why. No one will get empathy while showing non. Ive explained the issues I've seen people have with these groups and it doesn't seem like you're going to take it on board. At some poin…
/r/MensRights19/07/22 02:43 AM
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Noo I'm not saying my opinion. This is what MRA is bulked in with in my experience. It is what it is. And its because some white supremacists are MRA's
/r/MensRights19/07/22 02:35 AM
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Scroll up, look at any other "woman have it easy" comments on this. Yeah people are fully aware of mra mostly, Its just not platformed for all of the points I've mentioned. I'm not going to keep repeating. Try to look for a white power group. They're not favoured by algorithms, content creators, activists etc. The prevailing opinion wouldn't be favourable on allot of centiments I've read here. Which again is terrible for the genuinely effected men. But its down to them to step away from the offe…
/r/MensRights19/07/22 02:30 AM
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Also people see a white supremacy agenda lap over. And I have to admit I've seen some borderline comments in the couple of days I've looked at posts here. So yee
/r/MensRights19/07/22 02:22 AM
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The original comment in this thread is showing the literal opposite . . .along with a high percentage of allot of the other threads here. Most of the developed world are aware of MRA but see them as in a fringe group of misogynists who are struggling with being treated more equally to woman . . And don't recognise womans issues. We both know that's not overall true. But there are a high percentage of people on this thread that have backed up that stereotype. This makes me feel for the genuine Me…
/r/MensRights19/07/22 02:14 AM
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I feel the equilibrium isn't right in various ways between genders. I understand where some animosity develops from each side. I just wish more people empathise with groups their not in, like you. That's probably the answer long term. Thanks for your message x I hope whatever brings you here gets ironed out ASAP, people like you are the ones improving things
/r/MensRights18/07/22 07:41 PM
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I posted to authenticate mens stuggles and give understanding for some of the nasty behaviour, some do to woman. Turns out there's reason the entire developed world think mens rights activists are after superiority, again. Saying that though. I'm separating people who comment like you from the genuine men who understood this post. I still feel for their struggles being bulked in with you lot. I hope they can find a movement that helps fight unfair laws etc that isn't made a laughing stock by mis…
/r/MensRights18/07/22 04:45 PM
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After the reaction of diminishing any negative female experience atall, which I'd authenticated both. I really do care allot less. Men aren't ultimate victims . . I empathised but thats dwindling with responses to my empathy of feelings of ultimate victimhoom and with a straight face, diminishing the possibility that woman have issues too. Its changing my perspective. Although ill always feel for the good men, who'se voices are drowning in this sea. I feel for those men more than ever tbh. The b…
/r/MensRights18/07/22 10:10 AM
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Well thank you for completely assigning fault to other groups, randomly and minimising. Really not a pov I'm inclined to soppurt you in your plights on. I could do the same for male issues. But you know what. I'd never do that to a person.
/r/MensRights18/07/22 10:02 AM
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. . Incel fandom lmao
/r/MensRights18/07/22 09:48 AM
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I figured it was a "I'm special to this group of men" thing, but hmmmm fairs
/r/MensRights18/07/22 01:32 AM
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P.s do you know why theres some woman who are fully on mens supremacy? That took me by surprise
/r/MensRights18/07/22 01:27 AM
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I can tell you love fiction
/r/MensRights18/07/22 01:20 AM
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I had no idea what I was walking into. Thanks for your soppurt!!
/r/MensRights18/07/22 01:16 AM
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. . Or that you've been wanting attention and are now jealous . . . .for some really bizarre reason
/r/MensRights18/07/22 12:38 AM
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"I dunno how you got so many up-votes" really telling.
/r/MensRights18/07/22 12:34 AM
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. . . Erm . . . . . Have you seen this man's contributions 😆😆 ooo piss off Queen of the incels. Enjoy.
/r/MensRights17/07/22 11:56 PM
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You understand opposite sexes empathising with eachother is the cure for this. No I doubt it. I doubt Half of the people in this group want to make things better. I tried to help but you can all enjoy your self fulfilling misery.
/r/MensRights17/07/22 11:54 PM
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Hanging out with horrible woman. That's your bad. Yeah I've never met woman like that. Or I have one maybe, who's got 5 kids from 4 different dudes on benefits, she seems to have kids with blokes who need somewhere to stay for the weakend. But thats one out of maybe 300 woman I've briefly known. 299 seem nice people. And if any bloke goes for that 1 out 300, that really is on them. Red flags are clear. I don't get why you'd Internalise or see that behaviour as female though. Thats rare cunt beha…
/r/MensRights17/07/22 10:06 PM
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Haha I love your -5 karma. You're deffo a moral reddit dude
/r/MensRights17/07/22 09:55 PM
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Thanks 💙 Yeah, some situations seem to be a self fulfilling prophecy. Has been kinda a weird experience, I feel for the guys who've been really warm and happy to empathise with eachother. They're being bulked into a group with woman bashing for the sake of it men. And in turn they'll probably be treated unfairly by woman who've been bashed. I've turned abit colder to mens rights already, gotta admit. This comments made my little post though! I see you as a good human being.
/r/MensRights17/07/22 09:51 PM
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it's not. The male = to a whore is a jigalo. The female = to an incel is an incel or femcel. Woman are shamed for having sex. Men are given credit for sex. Both men and woman are given credit for no sex and shamed. Depending on who's judging them. This is a reach for male victimhood.
/r/MensRights17/07/22 09:24 PM
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It's not a slur it just literally means what it is. Involuntary celibate.
/r/MensRights17/07/22 09:13 PM
1

I'm my experience it's ironically from men you don't want to be with
/r/MensRights17/07/22 09:12 PM
3

Involuntary celibate. That's literally what incel means. Google it
/r/MensRights17/07/22 09:11 PM
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Hahahaa it's not though is it. Incel = involuntary celibate It's probs the same as calling a woman a virgin, frigid or something. Where is the literal opposite
/r/MensRights17/07/22 09:11 PM
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Honest, honest. I've always felt blokes had things easier, so wanted to empathise with the struggles blokes feel to help put away some of my victim feelings. Some men here I've found trully relatable but unfortunately the extreme ones you remember more. And my goal has actually gotten further away! No hate please you said honest. I gave honest!
/r/MensRights17/07/22 07:12 PM
-1

This is it. Its like people think everyone can't be a victim or abuser. The same person can be a victim to someone and abuser to another. Thanks for this reply. It means allot to hear some people get my point and want to find a happy middle ground we can all aggree on. Sending love!
/r/MensRights17/07/22 07:09 PM
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Yeah woman can be dicks. I feel like it's competition om society but I'm not atall diminishing that. Sorry you've had that to deal with. From a woman :)
/r/MensRights17/07/22 05:49 PM
-1

No mate. I dont see it as fair . .. I can't even tell if you believe your own position. This is crazy territory. You understand this? Calling someone names. Saying their abusive. Being sensitive and not even defending that your treating them fairly. This isn't sane. This is why the majority of the world disagrees with you. I tried to be kind originally. Now you can go fuck.
/r/MensRights17/07/22 05:45 PM
1

I tried to show soppurt and look at you. This is insane.
/r/MensRights17/07/22 05:41 PM
1

Dude. You need to live outside of this thread. Your in an echo chamber. Most of the world sees you as abusive and selfish.
/r/MensRights17/07/22 05:40 PM
-1

Harsh. But yeah the attitudes have said it all
/r/MensRights17/07/22 05:37 PM
-4

What's pissed me off, is you've been harsh af on them. they've given you no crap compared to me, a girl tryna be nice.
/r/MensRights17/07/22 05:34 PM
2

Lmao. Thats basically the just of this thread. Unbelievable.
/r/MensRights17/07/22 05:24 PM
1

Why would doing the same things you claim feminists do to you, to me. Help you atall. Why would it even be fair behaviour? Dude . .you're being callous af. You can't even see it is the scary thing.
/r/MensRights17/07/22 05:16 PM
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The dude who flipped out with a ton of mooron, tits, dumbass w/e comments cuz I don't agree with him. Yeah telling him to cry is quite light as a response to that. But if you're jabbing with "names deserved in this case" You're no better. This is why people don't respect this movement over all. Hateful attitudes and hypersensitive feelings while insulting people. Laughable tbh
/r/MensRights17/07/22 05:02 PM
1

You can work it out, I have faith.
/r/MensRights17/07/22 04:53 PM
1

You're just being condescending. There's no point is there. You're a king victim who has no empathy, whilst demanding it. I'll cut this short and wish you luck
/r/MensRights17/07/22 04:46 PM
1

I didn't downvote you. .. .you're literally downplaying my perceptions rn.
/r/MensRights17/07/22 04:33 PM
1

Yeah I've quickly learnt theres some fairly abusive people in this group who are claiming supreme vicrimhood. If you seriously judged just me from that Interaction. You should probably assess your bias
/r/MensRights17/07/22 04:25 PM
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It does. My brother was recognised for this
/r/MensRights17/07/22 04:23 PM
1

Yeah I agree with everyone of your points, though I think online image abuse of woman deep fake or not is a big problem thats about to become common place with video rendering tech and hacking. But its so taboo most woman won't come forward themselves for shame. I feel like this kindof thing is often done by disenfranchised men. I just hope we can all empathise with eachothers stuggles and realise empathising with someones stuggles will allow them to empathise with yours
/r/MensRights17/07/22 04:22 PM
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Yeah I don't know how I can be clearer that I don't appreciate most feminist arguments today. But interacting here I've found allot of perspectives here to be well, masculinsist. That's probs what I'll call certain equal and opposite to radfeminsist arguments. You will never accept how some come across here I assume. And thats just a shame for the nice normal guys who genuinely are trying to make things better. You're dragging them down with you
/r/MensRights17/07/22 03:01 PM
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Humans are apes, maybe you didn't complete science class. I just assume not many woman like you. I feel allot more of a feminist after this interaction with you. Good work of yours, smart.
/r/MensRights17/07/22 02:57 PM
1

Nice. Good to see positive changes being chased!
/r/MensRights17/07/22 02:36 PM
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Men where sexy clothes to woman? You realise. And woman being inundated by sexual offers is because of men. If men stopped harassing woman, things would be more equal. God you guys really do have no empathy
/r/MensRights17/07/22 02:35 PM
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To assert reality.
/r/MensRights17/07/22 01:50 PM
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. . Dude. I've as told you I'm not interested a conversation whit you and explained why. You continue to do with that what you like and leave me be please
/r/MensRights17/07/22 01:44 PM
1

. . . Omg. Not what I said. Again. Please stop this.
/r/MensRights17/07/22 01:32 PM
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I'm not entering into a conversation with you because I find you unpleasant and I doubt it'll serve any purpose. Percieve that how you like. Essentially proving what I'm saying.
/r/MensRights17/07/22 01:32 PM
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It makes them come onto my less respectfully and get more narcissistic about the rejection for me. . . Men have no standards 😆 I'm the same, (not muslim) but very little skin on show etc. Deffo. It's an odd world sometimes.
/r/MensRights17/07/22 01:30 PM
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I've already told you to an extent. Look the way you've interacted so far. It doesn't seem like you'll see anything past what you want too in this convo. So I'll leave you to it.
/r/MensRights17/07/22 01:26 PM
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Omg I swear wearing dirty sweatpants just makes them think your more attainable and makes it worse. Thanks girl! Its nice to know you're not alone looking forward to being old and invisible lols
/r/MensRights17/07/22 01:24 PM
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Hahahahaha! I'm gonna concede i don't think you're completely wrong with some there. I've learnt. But tbh I was trying to empathise in the hope it helped.
/r/MensRights17/07/22 01:20 PM
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What are you thinking you're accomplishing here?
/r/MensRights17/07/22 01:17 PM
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. . . . .. dude. You even know you completely misread one comment and you're just confidently attacking still for some reason. This isn't helping anyone
/r/MensRights17/07/22 01:14 PM
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You're seeing tactics where there's dismay at your behaviour
/r/MensRights17/07/22 01:12 PM
1

Dude. Get some help. This is just aggression and victimhood for the sake of it.
/r/MensRights17/07/22 01:11 PM
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. . . . .I said men should have to consent to children. Rather than being at womans mercy reproductively . . . . Serious dude you're creeping me out with how off the mark you're perceiving things
/r/MensRights17/07/22 01:03 PM
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. . . . .thats not what I was saying. You need to learn to take your bias out of the equation and re-read. Its actually becoming disturbing how your misinterpreting things to be a victim. . .you need to re-read
/r/MensRights17/07/22 12:59 PM
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I don't get it?
/r/MensRights17/07/22 12:57 PM
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. . . . Dude. You could be describing yourself. This is all really bizzare
/r/MensRights17/07/22 12:54 PM
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.. . Demanding someone post a post in a other group they openly say they disagree with in general. Is just bizarre dude. You should really analyse this
/r/MensRights17/07/22 12:44 PM
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No offence, 70% of the people here have been enlightening to talk to. 30% ish . . I dont want their attention.
/r/MensRights17/07/22 12:43 PM
1

So fair. Great to hear about a positive experience turning things around for you.
/r/MensRights17/07/22 12:39 PM
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. . Your demanding i post this another group. This isn't reasonable behaviour. Post it yourself? Listen to someone opinion
/r/MensRights17/07/22 12:35 PM
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Wow dude. You really have gone to creep level 10. You've built an entire mental image based off a mix of peoples posts. The sad thing is you completely ignored the posts that don't suit you? The one trying to find ways to stop male online Pedo's, about revenge porn etc? Nope, not important to you. Trully sad. You'll not have a happy life. You're falling into a really angry and lonely category. Your unhappiness is your own doing at this point.
/r/MensRights17/07/22 12:29 PM
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. . . . . .. . . . . This is a bizzare argument. You're not actually taking on board what I'm saying. Why would I interact with you.
/r/MensRights17/07/22 12:20 PM
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This isn't even my reddit accountn , serious creep vibes from you tho, Wow you're not doing wonders for stalking male stereotypes are you. You are clearly overly emotional. And fairly disturbed. I mean how long did you spend reading the history of this account and trying to offend me over it? Really, really odd behaviour. You're anger and attempts to offend are so misplaced. I feel honestly sorry for you. Go sort your emotions out.
/r/MensRights17/07/22 12:17 PM
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Some are exactly the same. You need stop demonising while backing the same behaviour patterns in your own group. Why don't you post what you're telling me to? Stepping out of your own group is probably a good idea
/r/MensRights17/07/22 12:13 PM
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What are you even basing this made scenario on? Have you done this? Or is this literally just imagination.
/r/MensRights17/07/22 12:10 PM
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I know the response would be negative from feminists. This isn't a competition. I had higher hopes here. But unfortunately many people here have shown themselves to be no better. Thankfully some great people also. Which makes you less suicidal. But far too many who behave like inverse feminists.
/r/MensRights17/07/22 12:08 PM
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Ah my god. I can't understand why some people don't see this. Thanks for responding. I was started to loose faith in humanity with some really negative, stereotypes based on no actual interaction with the grouping they see negatively. Really sad state of affairs.
/r/MensRights17/07/22 12:06 PM
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You're wrong I'm not personally offended. I just see a negative dude making the worldd worse. Based on his Bs. That's reality. Sad
/r/MensRights17/07/22 12:03 PM
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The character you reduced all woman to, where they're responsible for all of the issues they face. Fairly predictably is based on little actual interaction with them you've now admitted. Your point of view and confidence in it, based on things you see on the Internet or TV I assume, little actual interaction with woman. Is disturbing.
/r/MensRights17/07/22 11:30 AM
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You don't date? Right yeah we've got to the bottom of your extremely self bias, woman dislike. Well done.
/r/MensRights17/07/22 11:22 AM
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This perspective isn't reality. I'm not going argue with you. Because your perspective is extreme and not reasonable. Not being legally classed as a person. Able to vote and being burned at a stake for being smart. I really think you need to step out of your own bias. It's actually scary to see this self serving bias
/r/MensRights17/07/22 11:20 AM
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It's really refreshing to see a comment like is. This is an attitude I totally get on board with and respect, I wish more people in each side saw things like this. I totally agree, there's enough room for us all to have a society we find fulfilling. It's unfortunate but people who focus on their own victimhood and look to drag others down are the loudest atm. I think its why things are just getting worse. It's time for the rise of mutual respect and empathy!! Demonising those in opposite groups,…
/r/MensRights17/07/22 11:17 AM
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Also woman only gained equal rights in the 2000's roughly. Legally speaking like that's roughly when it became illegal to rape a wife. In the UK. I feel for the generation of dudes who've had to cope with laws changing and attempting to find the right balance. And some bad female actors taking advantage. But I really think opening your eyes to the negative female experience during this time also, will help creete empathy, we're all bias to our own experience. And thats what leads to wars. Openin…
/r/MensRights17/07/22 10:53 AM
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Defo. Treating people based on a group is the problem in todays world. I treat people differently based on how they interact with me. I'll never stop that.
/r/MensRights17/07/22 10:45 AM
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Woman are reacting to historical mistreatment and lingering, damaging gender roles they experience. Men have now been reacting to oppression and maintained negatives from gender roles. If this continues it'll only get worse. You're quick to get offended but really you've ignored my acceptance men have reasons to be upset. And you don't seem to accept that for woman. That isn't a good place to improve empathy towards your issues from
/r/MensRights17/07/22 10:42 AM
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100% agree. We all probably negatively effect eachother because of gender roles etc. I hope we can all start to respect the pain it causes it group and realise we're all just the same emotionally.
/r/MensRights17/07/22 10:38 AM
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Thanks for sharing. I really hear you and its upsetting to hear any person in society feel this way/ having had experienced issues and neglect which lead to that. The thing you can't factually say is which groups you don't belong to have it worse or better. Its not healthy to rank groups like that. All we can do is be open minded and empathetic to different people from ourselves/ experience. You've got to bare in mind, I'm not sure where you live, I assume somewhere left wing in ways, but the wo…
/r/MensRights17/07/22 10:34 AM
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Ah thanks, lovely sentiment i hope you get a fair society with equal expectations placed on men and woman ASAP.
/r/MensRights17/07/22 10:25 AM
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I'm not sure if I know which movement you mean wants superiority. These days its like a darwinian field of superiority attempts. It's probs some from each side who are reasonable and some who aren't.
/r/MensRights17/07/22 06:30 AM
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I'm not a feminist, I'm not left wing, you probably should introspect.
/r/MensRights17/07/22 06:27 AM
1

Yeah being honest. I think as a female I'm guilty of this. If someone's abit sexist to me. I really p them off. Its deffo a human instinct. Does no good atall. But is hard to resist when you feel hard done too. I get why some dudes would. Some trully good people need to rise above it! Not going to end well like this. One of us needs to be the bigger person 😅
/r/MensRights17/07/22 05:04 AM
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Must of done, then totally forgot. Cuz its not my issue, . .bitches 😂
/r/MensRights17/07/22 04:57 AM
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If my impression of the dude, Is that negative . Feel free to write it off as me thats the only problem. But in reality you should probably open your mind to the people who give the majority of people in this world a bad impression of his movement . . Really these attitudes are the problem. And I feel for the normal, pleasant men being dragged down with them. Not fair.
/r/MensRights17/07/22 04:51 AM
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Ridiculous comment.
/r/MensRights17/07/22 04:47 AM
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You're seriously asking me to soppurt the dude calling me loads of names? That's not how people work. Its best for him to learn that. (He clearly needs a cry) Is it because I'm female you expect me to be the bigger person. Well I'm not. I'm as pathetic as that dude. Although I've not insulted him. It probs cuts deeper that he does really want to cry. And totally should cry it out.
/r/MensRights17/07/22 04:26 AM
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You're looking at this biasly. I felt this way about the comment I replied to. But I doubt we'll agree if you can't see why that would be.
/r/MensRights17/07/22 03:51 AM
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Men and woman are no different in reality. He does need a good cry. End of, this is clear. I've not been affected by any of thesr offence attempts because I completely understand it's his issue . . Of needing to cry. I like you telling me to grow a spine etc. Cuz . . I evidently already have. I'm that much more contented and emotionally stable. I've not even retaliated. I've just pointed out the clear frustration and need to cry. Which you've now agreed you see. So thanks. This isn't how you win…
/r/MensRights17/07/22 03:45 AM
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Theres been some amazing dudes in here who I'm grateful to for opening my mind to their plight, with empathy and kind attitudes. But the ones who leave a bad taste. I'm negatively reinforcing it. I feel for the good men in the movement who are being tarred by some of the bad actors tbh. If I've made some aggressive types think twice about talking to a floating female voter in an aggressive way. This movement is welcome.
/r/MensRights17/07/22 03:22 AM
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After his extreme tirade. He does need a cry. Theres no shame in it, but there is in his degrading language it isn't helping him or any of you. It gives all mens activists a bad look. Tbh if his language and behaviour does reprisent mens rights advocates (which i know it doesn't) mens rights will fail. Sometimes tough love is a longterm solution. And frankly after his language. I was fairly kind.
/r/MensRights17/07/22 03:17 AM
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Things going both ways is probably fairly healthy though. Empathy on both sides is the answer imo.
/r/MensRights17/07/22 03:12 AM
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Well doesn't that make you special, in comparison, A real catch
/r/MensRights17/07/22 02:42 AM
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Bitch, dumbass, calm your tits, dumbass. Weaved between ethnic group stereotypes and "you know nothing about me?!" You're not OK. This is evident. I'm not retaliating because I feel sorry for you tbh also you're so emotionally involved. It's kinda intrusive
/r/MensRights17/07/22 02:40 AM
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Haha you've called me every intellectually insulting thing can you spew. You do need to oust this emotion. I understand its a stigma for men. But fs. Stop following convention and cry. The way you've been speaking isn't productive or acceptable. You do need sort your emotions out.
/r/MensRights17/07/22 02:30 AM
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. . . I'm not sure what to say to you. You remind me abit of white saviour type thing. No girl. You are the stereotypical, drag a girl down to look special.
/r/MensRights17/07/22 02:22 AM
0

I could barely take that in, all I heard was a need to cry. It's ok dude. I'll respect you more for a good cry. Get it all out and I'll listen to a less emotional comment when you're done. That's not comment anyone would reply to or take seriously, is it? . . Looking at this logically vs emotionally
/r/MensRights17/07/22 02:20 AM
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I didn't mean that. I ment don't take it out on woman. I get why some do. But its not right to
/r/MensRights17/07/22 02:16 AM
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You sound like you're really enjoying being a special woman. A defender woman. Dude. Stop being weird. You're not a special, unique woman that's different from all the others lmao
/r/MensRights17/07/22 02:15 AM
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Why do you sound sensitive telling me to grow a thick skin? Odd irony, are you going to sit on my comments for a week?
/r/MensRights17/07/22 02:12 AM
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I don't think incels are sexually unattractive atall, well some might be but I don't think that's the cause of incel-dom. I think its a social comunication issue, in society. The amount of poor quality men, to be blunt. Who end up with 10 kids. Is just gross. They manage to reproduce so successfully because they shamelessly come on to that many women and certain percentage ar bound to say yes. These men don't even have to like the woman to attempt to sleep with them. Also woman in general aren't…
/r/MensRights17/07/22 01:57 AM
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I've got your back. Metaphysically :)
/r/MensRights17/07/22 01:43 AM
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Such a good comment. I can't fault this atall. We all need to stop blaming others and just work together to be better
/r/MensRights17/07/22 01:35 AM
0

All I here is wah wah, your heart is crying as you mask it with a horrible personality
/r/MensRights17/07/22 01:28 AM
1

Some men do the same you know. People are just people sometimes. And some times people are evils desgusting obominations.
/r/MensRights17/07/22 01:16 AM
1

I think three men have gone off to cry out their anger so far . . . Bring it sissy. You've percieved my words wrong. Not the sentiment. The sentiment is to understand eachother and these problems go away. You're now replying about how you like to segregate things. You're making things worse. Segregation is baad mkay. Sorry I'm blunt some wonderful guys in here but the little simpy types who sexistly tell me about "think skins" are getting my non polite self
/r/MensRights17/07/22 12:57 AM
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Texas .. I actually really appreciate the annacdote from that area of the world rn. . . I was annoyed for womans rights on the abortion rights thing . . But . . Omg . .. the baby hungry young girls in a religious area. That is like, a really toxic life possibility. I spose it's the same for men that are trying to trap a girl, but then again the girl can still travel for an abortion. The worlds going backwards. I don't understand anymore. Are they trying to increase the birthdays for a war or som…
/r/MensRights17/07/22 12:53 AM
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The fappening, deepfakes ect. Basically image sexual abuse. I think it's 90% woman who are effected and some kill themselves
/r/MensRights17/07/22 12:35 AM
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Hahahahahahaaaa you guys both need a good little cry about woman not fancying you is all I can say. These interactions have been bizarre. Your emotions are extreme
/r/MensRights17/07/22 12:33 AM
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Omg thank you. This is fair assessment. Gendered social roles haven't been dismantled really either and I think this is what's causing so many to identify as non binary. People literally think liking certain colours changes there gender. . .it's like noo. You can like any activity, colour or whatever and still be the same gender. People like yourself are so valuable to help society improve
/r/MensRights17/07/22 12:19 AM
0

love you too!
/r/MensRights17/07/22 12:14 AM
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Hahaha that's what I'd of thought!! On the save your arse point. I'm just going off general mens arguments I've had for the abortion right stripping. Wow yeah that's a point and half. I honestly can't think of a good reply. That is a moral. Nightmare. I'd not thought if that before. Yeah I feel sorry for you normal, arse saving guys tbf. Super thick condom sales will go through the roof.
/r/MensRights17/07/22 12:08 AM
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How would you know the average experience of each group? Because its not womans perception of there experience. The thing is I choose to empathise with mens issues. The men who have shown empathy here towards woman. I feel for whole heartedly. But the statements above will lose empathy because they show non. I'm from the UK so I'm not aware of pay gap statistics but that's I spose a point
/r/MensRights16/07/22 11:48 PM
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Well that's the issue these days isn't it. What do words even mean. A social justice warrior is generallu trying to tear a particular group down. A Liberal want to shut down free speech and actual feminists are probably called right wing nazis these days.
/r/MensRights16/07/22 11:44 PM
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You really do need a good cry. The absolute seething anger and attempts to insult a stranger online baselessly, make it clear you aren't emotionally healthy. Go have a good cry and I'll talk to you after. Clearly no person should or will endure your attitude to respond. Have cry and come back.
/r/MensRights16/07/22 11:41 PM
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From what I can tell, talking to everyday men who soppurt it. Yeah it seems to be they soppurt it from an anger of having to pay for children they might not have agreed to and having no say in reproduction. This is the reasoning of soppurtong taking womans reproductive rights I've heard.
/r/MensRights16/07/22 11:38 PM
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Yeah I'm not going to argue with you on that. Some feminist arguments make me truly cringe. Like fighting for alimony is surely the most anti feminist thing possible? But they do. I probably would class as a feminist on my view of some issue woman face. But your right that seeing mens societal injustices seems to make you not a feminist.
/r/MensRights16/07/22 11:36 PM
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I took it as you seeing all woman a certain a way, which leads you to feel superior. You're clearly very angry, .. I'm quite flattered at this intense and paranoid response. . I never said I came here to get insight. I came to offer soppurt and advice to empathise with woman 😆😆😆 I wish you a good little cry so you can get the emption out and reset.
/r/MensRights16/07/22 11:33 PM
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So would you consider my comments as female apathy? And feel a need a argue or be aggressive to it for manhood? Personally ignoring a few points i didn't connect to i found your response perfectly strong. Effectively addressing the points your replying to. There's been a few male respondents here who have really opened my heart and mind to the issues men experience. The few comments from people clearly attempting to be aggressive/ intellectually demeaning/ trying to assert dominants. I percieved…
/r/MensRights16/07/22 11:28 PM
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Doing the same thing and expecting a different result is logic. . . Thank you for your help 😆
/r/MensRights16/07/22 11:09 PM
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.. . How would you know most western womans experience in life? You've also responded to a western woman saying she feels hard done to . . With this? Is it believing im a lier or just to stupid to know my own experience that compelled you to respond this way?
/r/MensRights16/07/22 11:08 PM
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. . .I'm not a feminist. . . .. like are you serious in this response? Wtf is your goal here. Your behaviour is . . . . Gonna make male issue worse. What's wrong with you dudes? This isn't how you get soppurt
/r/MensRights16/07/22 11:05 PM
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You think all woman are coddled and are calling me a radicaliser for not interacting with it. You really are . . . .
/r/MensRights16/07/22 11:03 PM
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. . Your still doing the same thing and expecting a different result 🤦‍♀️
/r/MensRights16/07/22 11:02 PM
1

You've just made 3 comments, calling me a moron and telling me to go be dumb elsewhere. And someone backing you up says that comment was referring to all woman. The dunning kruger effect is strong with you. I feel bad for men you think you reprisent
/r/MensRights16/07/22 11:01 PM
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You expect me to respond to every point. You literally are . . . . ..
/r/MensRights16/07/22 10:59 PM
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. . Yeah the interpreting that as woman in general is the offensive and problematic thing isn't it. I feel sorry for the descent dudes here. People with your attitudes are taking support away from them
/r/MensRights16/07/22 10:59 PM
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Where are you from? Roe vs wade reversing, biological men in womans sports, the sexual villiance statistics etc. I'm not trying to bring up stuff to shame men, thats not fair to do. But seriously you don't get my inference?
/r/MensRights16/07/22 10:50 PM
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Dude, you've got some issues. This type of behaviour is not helping men out. Try to win soppurt. Not project negatives onto people actions. Anyone reading these comments will know exactly the news dominating point. You're probably purposefully ignoring. I'm really not going to waste my time on you
/r/MensRights16/07/22 10:48 PM
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When someone says "the protected and insulated rarely understand the shitstorm they support" (slightly paraphrased) . . To a complete stranger they no nothing about. Do you believe there's a point replying to their points? . . It's nonsensical, condescending and generally bitter sounding tbh. There's nothing I could say to get him to empathise with me and therefore I'll not empathise with him. Not a successful way to make a point.
/r/MensRights16/07/22 10:45 PM
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Do you really think Insinuating factually superiority because your male is going to get woman to read your book? You're one of the reasons I feel sorry for decent men. You're apart of this problem.
/r/MensRights16/07/22 10:37 PM
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What?
/r/MensRights16/07/22 10:36 PM
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Are you projecting passive aggression into my empathetic words to your plight? . . Are you serious in that question, do you watch the news?
/r/MensRights16/07/22 10:34 PM
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Well if this is the way men treat other men. Do you think that might be a cause of some of your issues? Your comment "burden of responsibility" is very telling. I can hold your perceptions to scrutiny if you'd like this. And you sound like you feel superior to woman. . . Unless your working in a gay environment, I really don't think your experiences correlate. But if you do work in a gay bar obviously they do. The way you've interacted and shown perception of my sex and your own. I'm clearly not…
/r/MensRights16/07/22 10:32 PM
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Are you serious in this response? Writting off the entire point because there's worse things in the world . . . I'm not sure if you're genuinely serious, given the group your commenting in.
/r/MensRights16/07/22 10:27 PM
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I'm not going to argue with you. The assumptions you've made of my life are very off the mark. I don't think there's much point in discussing my experiences with you. You apear fairly confident, righteous and intellectually superior feeling from your two comments. I'm genuinely sorry for whatever you feel unfairly treated on. I can see some things from my perspective that could be the cause of your attitude. But if this is how you feel acceptable conversing with me. With belittling assumptions a…
/r/MensRights16/07/22 10:25 PM
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I appreciate your perception there. I'd agree . .but as white woman I'll keep my head down. 😜 I'm not really trying to compete and "out victim" anyone because I don't feel that's helpful. But yeah the mass shooting situation is a good example of "Incel" sortof behaviour. Eliot Roberts is probs the most famous Incell who attempted to murder woman specifically because he felt entitled to and mistreated by woman. The e.g's that spring to mind are draging woman down socially. If you reject a men, he…
/r/MensRights16/07/22 10:16 PM
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I don't think your factoring in sexually motivated crimes. I'm not an expert on crime statistics but there is more motivation to attack a woman. The thing is we all speak from subjective experience, including you. But these forums are really good to bust some flase preconceptions
/r/MensRights16/07/22 10:03 PM
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No I mean being stalked, sexually objectified and diminished. Accomplisents written off as men helping you out because of sexual value. Or gettoised schemes like you mentioned. Which id die of shame before being helped with. Men disliking learning anything from you because it makes them feel small as a man. It not being socially acceptable to have sex whilst men act like you have it easy because men constantly come on to you and get butt hurt or stalkery when you have to reject them (can't win).…
/r/MensRights16/07/22 10:00 PM
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Fair. This is a depressing possible explaination for things.
/r/MensRights16/07/22 09:54 PM
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I really understand your frustrations. They are valid. But the issue is men honestly don't have things worse over all than a woman who isn't taking advantage of social loopholes. An average, non misandristic woman suffer too. In very different ways. But empathising with issues that effect woman and helping to stop them, will gain more soppurt from general woman to men. A competition will just result in a winner and loser, not fair treatment In differant areas we all
/r/MensRights16/07/22 09:53 PM
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Because I believe men have been marginalised in recent years. There's areas where this isn't true but overall straight white men can be the butt of a joke. By most other groups but aren't aloud to say a word to anyone else. I wholeheartedly disagree with this. But men taking frustrations out on woman in general, make it harder to he a total ally
/r/MensRights16/07/22 09:48 PM
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I totally aggree, how can anyone expect someone to empathise with your issues when you're purposefully ignoring theirs to win on being a victim. And fs.. lmao . . It's not even funny. I can only imagine how frustrating in todays political climate it must be for you on the Nazi comment, Jewish front. I think allot of these social justice groups are just behaving selfishly deep down. Great to cyber meet you I'd honestly love to hear you're perspective on political issues atm. Things are crazy atm.…
/r/MensRights16/07/22 09:45 PM
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I totally agree. I think the last 100 years or so of allowing woman to gain equality ground was probably neccercary. But the issue is that conventions like divorce settlements etc are generally weighted towards woman. Which when you think about it is positive discrimination (men need to financially soppurt incapable woman). Which platformed feminists haven't argued against. . This situation of men loosing social power benefits but still being lumbered with corresponding responsibilities is what'…
/r/MensRights16/07/22 09:35 PM
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What makes you say this?
/r/MensRights16/07/22 09:08 PM
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Being fair, you know there's more to fear for woman alone in public at night don't you. I take you're point on men not being accepted sharing physical fears. But woman are just physically weaker. I'm not an expert on domestic violence so I'll take your word on it. What's your take on revenge and deepfake porn? Not celebrities but everyday woman. Who are 90% of it online?
/r/MensRights16/07/22 09:05 PM
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What makes you say this? I'm a woman and I feel extremely hard done to tbh. I'm genuinely fascinated
/r/MensRights16/07/22 09:01 PM
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Being blunt I think the violence and sexual aggressive issues you see in some men is largely down to how society raises them. Think of boys toys, they're guns, army men, violent super heros lmao. Girls toys are babies to raise, barbies for social interaction play. The expectation of men to have a lot of sex and conversely woman not to have much (who are men supposed to sleep with, if woman are judged for it?) All of this likely explains grown up men's crime statistics and womans crimes being far…
/r/MensRights16/07/22 08:56 PM
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From an evolutionary biology perspective. There isn't much difference between the sexes. There's some, but not that much. As a species we don't have much sexual dimorphism (physicall difference between sexes) especially compared to all other great apes. The monogamous cultural behaviour and men being involved in fairly equal child rearing is something you see univerally in a species with low sexual dimorphism. Its men aswell who seek monogamy in my experience. I'd say there's no such thing as eq…
/r/MensRights16/07/22 08:45 PM
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I ment violence statistics in general, not in a domestic setting . I'll give it a read but I'm not sure id believe domestic violence statistics tbf because of the stigma of men reporting it/ subbtle expectation to "take it like a man". I may be wrong, but I had the impression woman in general get attacked more than they attack men. Its probably mostly down to the strength discrepancy and likelihood of success in all fairness. Nasty woman release aggression in other ways imo. Its all a complex me…
/r/MensRights16/07/22 08:34 PM
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The two party system. You may not be wrong. Yeah Nordic nations seem to get things pretty right Men V Woman. My perspective is men and woman are essentially the same. We're all people. A bloke is as likely to need reassurance as a woman, and a woman is as likely to have something interesting to say as man etc. Socially constructed gender roles are causing allot of issues on each side IMO. Also I think these social ideas are why Non binary stuff is being a big thing.
/r/MensRights16/07/22 08:13 PM
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Such a fair comment. Mutual respect and empathy is the only way to help. Its such a shame many people can't give this.
/r/MensRights16/07/22 08:04 PM
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Look I'm not even going to read and reply to all that. You come off as apart of the problem for woman. I'm sorry for whatever you've experienced to give you this very intense and negative perception of woman on a whole. But no. This attitude won't get you anywhere, you're clearly not showing empathy or seeing me an equal human being.
/r/MensRights16/07/22 07:58 PM
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Don't you think on the reproduction front, making it a legal right for men to concent or not to taking on financial etc responsibility for a child, rather than taking womans reproductive rights away, would be healthier? On the domestic violence front. I'm sorry for whatever you've been unfortunate enough to experience there. But you realise woman are far more commonly abused by men? Most woman don't leave the house at night alone etc. I could list allot, lot more poor woman points. But I'm not p…
/r/MensRights16/07/22 07:48 PM
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So you know 97% of men and understand all womans psychology to be more vindictive/bitter then mens? I'm not diminishing your experience but I don't think its representative of the reality to all of us. That line in my mind, is giving negative behaving men the benefit of the doubt on their negative motivation towards woman. But I appreciate you sharing your differant perception to mine. I spose that's the best way to sort this mess out really.
/r/MensRights16/07/22 07:36 PM
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Yeah I've always thought men should have to assume responsibility for a child. Through like a legal document "i concent to this child" rather than being at a womans mercy on reproducing. Men have a fair few in equalities. But unfortunately this apears to be giving some men motivation to try to take womans rights or create new forms of abuse towards woman online. Which in turn will encourage woman to take advantage of men more where they can, because of their feelings of being mistreated. I have …
/r/MensRights16/07/22 07:31 PM
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. . . I think if you re read your comment you'll see you're making negative assumptions about woman and positive of men. My lived experience isn't what you describe tbh. I'm not going to assume its everyone's experience but it's really not what you've described.
/r/MensRights16/07/22 07:27 PM
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Thanks x It's hard to understand how we've collectively got it so wrong to the point of us all being treated unfairly in various ways.
/r/MensRights16/07/22 07:24 PM
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I've considered suicide. I know you may not understand all this, and theres too much to list tbh living as a woman is scary. We get seriously assaulted, raped or just pestered by people stronger than us, who society often sees as more credible, subconsciously atleast. In the UK over 90% of rape cases arn't even taken to court. We get slightly harrased or come onto by maybe 10 different men a day on average. Which some men seem to be jealous of woman recieving this attention. But its not pleasant…
/r/MensRights16/07/22 07:12 PM
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From a Woman. I respect your perspective on this. I'm sorry you have to deal with is, you're worth more. I want to let you know I feel exactly the same way about being a woman (for different reasons). I hope the world learns to respect people deserve the same, equal treatment and are individuals, not stereotypes; that where only ever a thing because we were raised a certain way based on gender. Sending love.
/r/MensRights16/07/22 06:09 PM
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When was the last conscription? I'm a female and would fight for equal conscription rights. If. If, many Men weren't fighting to take away just womans freedoms. Stop making this worse on us all. You are perpetuating your own victimisation.
/r/MensRights16/07/22 05:43 PM
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