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Question For Menoperajunkie/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 09:25 PM
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Discussionoperajunkie/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 01:19 AM
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I really don’t think you have a right to hide it from potential partners. That’s dishonest. You’re not entitled to something just because you want it. The right person will accept it. Coming from a bisexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 07:35 PM
1

Women aren’t sluts period for enjoying sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 01:16 AM
3

It’s almost like being hunted for sport and dehumanized from the time you hit puberty becomes tiresome.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 08:38 PM
5

My favorite is they slut shame and then complain that it’s hard to get laid at the same time lol. Slut shaming makes women less likely to want to have casual sex dumb dumbs.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 07:44 PM
6

Exactly. They create it themselves by being so thirsty. Male attention is worthless most of the time because it’s so easy to get.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 07:32 PM
1

Exactly this
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 02:30 AM
3

Ding ding ding we have a winner. This sums up my experience with men perfectly. Except for the part about sex being a chore. I’m pretty much always ready to go in the right circumstances.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 05:38 AM
5

Heavy on dehumanizing. It’s exhausting to constantly be treated like a sex object.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 05:32 AM
2

The websites were absolutely horrible as a woman because I was flooded with messages from men that were way outside of my preferences. Literally old dudes from multiple states away. So while the apps do suck, I strongly prefer getting to choose who can contact me. I’d never go on an “anyone can message you” format website ever again.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 04:00 AM
4

It’s mainly reason 8. Because most of the men on there just want a cheap hookup and I’m not and never have been interested in that. I date to marry, period. If you do manage to find someone looking for something serious you are so rarely compatible that it just feels not worth it. I met my ex on an app, and he was a great guy and we had several good years together, but they seem to have gotten progressively worse in the past 5 years. I was back on an app for less than two weeks before deciding I…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 12:47 AM
1

You guys just make things up. Statistics do not show that at all, most marriages are between people of equal class. Diana DID have family money, as did Charles obviously, do you think he would have married a waitress? Foolish.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 12:01 PM
0

Let’s use literal royalty and aristocracy as our metric and ignore every statistic on the planet while we’re at it. That’s genius. Btw…that marriage was a disaster.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 11:18 AM
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You guys just make things up.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 08:55 PM
2

I know right? I don’t know why they wanna die on this hill so bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 04:59 PM
15

I grew up with money and this is a well known fact. When it comes time to marry, nobody is marrying anyone without a college degree and a decent career.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 04:23 PM
3

Okay? Men also shun women they don’t find attractive that’s life.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 08:08 PM
2

We should all work on learning from the past but honestly, you guys underestimate how convincing someone people can be.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 07:01 PM
23

lol that was the fastest end to a thread I’ve seen in a while
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 05:50 PM
1

I don’t want to be fetishized and will reject anyone who does so whether it makes sense to them or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 01:13 AM
5

Nah I’m with you, I’d never do it either. I don’t need that extra stress in my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 05:20 AM
4

So long as you understand a) you’re severely limiting your options and b) people without kids don’t want to make their lives more chaotic anymore than you do, and they’re in the stronger negotiating position
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 02:56 AM
4

🤡
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 01:25 AM
14

Kids are baggage. Nobody thinks your child is special but you. You just said you don’t give a crap about anyone else’s children even as a parent so why should someone without the burden of children care about yours? Expecting someone without said baggage to take you on, while refusing to consider a partner whose life situation matches yours, is delusional and entitled.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 01:03 AM
2

Me too actually. He put me off bisexual men for the most part. But I’m bi and have never cheated on anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 12:55 AM
3

It’s more that we have the reputation of being very sexually adventurous, so we actually don’t have an issue attracting men, we’re just more likely to attract dudes who fetishize us
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 12:49 AM
10

The lack of self awareness is so funny I swear. It’s fun to see one in the wild.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 12:48 AM
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That’s just delusional. I’ve met men who insist on this too because they don’t want “drama” as if they don’t bring the drama themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 11:36 PM
5

This too
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 10:39 PM
42

People who have a gaggle of kids and absolutely insist on dating someone with no kids baffle me. Like sir or madam, be serious.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 09:42 PM
12

I think this comes from bisexual men’s reputation as being promiscuous and or more likely to cheat. I’m not saying it’s right but that’s the reasoning I’ve heard.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 09:41 PM
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Exactly. The bottom men don’t magically act right just because.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 04:50 AM
-1

The world would be better place if lonely men sought actual therapy instead of being indoctrinated into a misogynistic online cult full of hateful grifters.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 09:31 PM
2

I agree with this. It’s a safe age if you’ve already found your person, it’s a risky age if you’re still looking. I’m honestly grateful to be childfree because it seems like a huge weight off.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 05:04 PM
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The red pill men here just want to women bad every single thing, there’s really no point.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 06:34 AM
1

No, because the idea that ugly or average men treat women any better is largely crap that doesn’t pan out in real life. “Lmao” and I have dated women too, same thing applies.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 06:33 AM
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I don’t associate with Walmart people, so I can’t really say. I’m around rich women who go to Pilates 3 times a week. My mom also fell into that category.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 01:15 AM
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It’s called advanced maternal age now and you still have over an 80% chance of having a totally healthy baby. My brother was born when my mom was 38. Not to mention, many high powered women freeze their eggs. I didn’t say it was ideal, but this idea that it’s nigh on impossible is simply not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 01:12 AM
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Profile 100% checks out as someone who would make this comment. Lmfao.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 11:44 PM
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Literally they constantly tell men to avoid commitment or marriage and then chide women for not being able to force them to do it anyway. It is baffling. There are SO many men 20-50 + who just want to fuck around. I know so many really wonderful women who are frustrated because men just don’t want to put down the video games long enough to get married or have a family.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 11:36 PM
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38 yo women have healthy babies all the time dude. It’s not 1954, people are waiting longer to have kids. And in this example she doesn’t want them so I’m not sure why you’re fixating on that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 11:23 PM
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Nothing. The wrong part is hitting on a 27 yo at 65 and thinking she’s gonna be anything other than disgusted.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 08:48 PM
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I’m genuinely sorry to hear this.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 07:30 PM
2

The last two “super likes” I got on a dating app were from a 45 yo bald, divorced dude with 2 young kids and a 65 yo retired dude who looked like he’d been microwaved for 30 years. I am a 20 something woman who doesn’t want children. If that’s who men are using their energy on I’m not surprised they’re coming up empty.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 05:30 PM
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Yes but you’re a young man, not an old geezer so that’s reasonable. You’re just dating women your age. So long as you’re not shitting on women older than you, you’re not what’s being talked about.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 03:58 AM
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You guys really cannot read and it must be exhausting to live that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 08:38 AM
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I didn’t say it automatically makes you a creep, but being able to socialize with women is a green flag.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 07:21 AM
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Because it’s an indication that he isn’t a total creep and that he can do something with a woman that doesn’t involve sex
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 06:00 AM
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I’m way more likely to trust a man with at least one female friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 03:39 AM
1

There’s no point using logic on people like you, you had a blatant 1:1 comparison and all you said was “it’s different because I say so”. Bye now.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 03:17 AM
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Stay hypocritical random internet man. It’s really clear from your comments you don’t live in reality so I’m going to bow out here.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 03:16 AM
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Unless you’re a virgin, you have no right to expect one.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 02:56 AM
1

And here we circle back to you using your little scare tactics. You can “prefer” like women can “prefer” billionaires. That’s not reality is it? Especially if you want an actually meaningful relationship it makes far more sense to date someone you have things in common with. And most men never have any power in the dating scene and I don’t live my life to please you people. I’ll be fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 02:52 AM
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They could also go after the minority of highly attractive 40 something women who they love to pretend don’t exist, vs the statistically much less interested young woman. But again, people can do what they want, just don’t cry when it doesn’t work because you’re not realistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 02:30 AM
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You guys vastly overestimate the importance of your paid off Toyota Camrys. And the “daddy” vibe is gross to any psychologically healthy young woman. I already have a dad, I want a peer and partner. Next. I’d rather have the 28 yo who is working his way up and has all his hair. And yes, the loser is definitely LESS attractive at 40 than 20, because there’s no excuse anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 06:39 PM
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lol we’re not talking celebrity here. The average dude? No contest. You can’t accuse women of coping and then say this with a straight face.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 05:39 PM
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Lmfao you’ve never met a history book you didn’t ignore and that’s so precious.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 05:29 PM
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Nobody is coasting. You only notice women who look a certain way so you think the rest of us don’t exist. The women I know all work hard on other things and know not to rely on that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 05:17 PM
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I can honestly say every older man who hit on me when I was 18-21 gave me intensely bad vibes. Controlling, manipulative, the whole nine. I’m grateful I wasn’t attracted to them because it was a non starter.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 05:11 PM
2

Blasian here. It’s like a cheat code.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 05:08 PM
8

I’m 27 and already an old hag around here because my fully developed frontal lobe makes me unattractive to hardcore red pillers. I’m thrilled about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 04:58 PM
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Men in their 40’s are also generally less attractive than men in their 20’s. People age. News at eleven.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 04:57 PM
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Some do. Some don’t. Plenty of celebrity men married to women around their age. Red pillers love to project their worldview onto all men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 04:55 PM
4

I’m really just looking for someone who can hang with me and do the kind of stuff I like to do. Ideally I’d like to meet him through friends or work stuff but there are also some matchmaking services my friends have used that have worked. I don’t need him to exceed or even match me. My rule is he has to make at least at least half of my income (circa 120k) but honestly I’d be flexible if everything else was there. Ambition is important. Yes fitness is important. I am not too busy to date but avo…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 06:38 AM
8

I don’t disagree but it seems there’s a lot of glorification of the illiterate 20 yo waifu who does nothing but clean, cook and make babies.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 05:33 AM
0

Not trolling, it’s a genuine question. I’m sure some wing nuts will answer but some reasonable men will too.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 04:59 AM
3

Do you have a low body count?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 03:53 AM
3

This has really not been my personal experience
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 02:27 AM
3

Yes they definitely do. I went to an Ivy League college and there were tons of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 02:25 AM
2

Having a penis
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 01:36 AM
6

I don’t think any secure person would
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 12:46 AM
8

I was 19 and naive as all hell. I imagine it’s that way for many women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 11:20 PM
2

Know thine enemy as well as thine friend
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 10:54 PM
4

I imagine that it’s better for people with incompatible values to just stay away from each other rather than try to change.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 10:11 PM
3

Neither do I sis. I just like knowing how they think.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 10:09 PM
8

This is nice to hear. I hear so much about how ambitious women are undesirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 09:59 PM
1

I don’t disagree but that’s the lingo that get tossed around here so I went with it
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 09:58 PM
3

😂
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 09:50 PM
2

Agree, it’s entirely possible to seek counseling for this too
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 09:49 PM
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I’ve been celibate for 2 + years before. Edit: lol y’all are bitter as fuck downvoting me for answering the question that was asked. I never said it was totally involuntary.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 09:27 PM
-4

There are things in life besides romantic love. Friends, career, hobbies, travel etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 09:09 PM
6

Praised be the accuracy of this response. Not to mention all the crude messages from dudes who just want to use us for very mediocre sex
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 08:41 PM
1

I agree with this. We should focus on what we can somewhat control and what will make our lives better.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 08:39 PM
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Long before the Internet misanthropes and social outcasts existed. That’s life.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 07:28 PM
-1

She was one of the founding inventors in his company and he didn’t get a prenup so cry more.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 09:59 PM
1

And yet the wealthy still marriage as a worthwhile endeavor. Maybe more black people should take a page instead of furthering that 70% out of wedlock birth bullshit that means we’ll never have any fucking money. 🙃
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 03:55 PM
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But he did cheat lol, you’d never defend a woman who did what he did and got left. Ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 03:35 PM
1

She also came from a wealthy family loaned him money to start the company but that doesn’t fit the narrative. Truth is, as a wealthy guy you’re still better marrying a competent, successful woman vs the mythical 20 yo goldigger that red pillers like to tout. Marriage is about building, preserving and passing down wealth. The upper middle class and above has never forgotten this, but poor people have and the difference is glaring.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 03:18 PM
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Bezos’s wife was with him when he was broke and then he cheated on her so she left. I know you guys hate women, but come on.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 03:01 PM
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lol precisely. It’s called a prenup. Edit: you bitter anti marriage people can downvote me all you want and it doesn’t change the fact that wealthier people have the most successful marriages and will continue to do so
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 08:28 PM
1

Lmfao it must be a hell of a ride to genuinely believe of this bullshit. No shit mutual physical attraction is required for dating and has to be met before anything else can factor in.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 03:06 PM
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For me as a neurodivergent women, yes. I tried to give one a chance but he’d been hardcore red pilled and was now not only awkward and socially clueless, but also extremely obnoxious on top of it. I don’t bother now.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 06:44 AM
2

Dating. Actual dating, involving actual full sentences.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 06:42 AM
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Most bigots are also massive hypocrites OP, this is nothing new.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 11:05 PM
1

I never said you should do it to win approval. You should always do most things for yourself, positive reactions from others are bonus points.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 08:16 PM
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I actually collect comics too lol, so yes I’d love a guy who did that. Assuming I was attracted to him otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 07:51 PM
0

I genuinely think they DO help though, they just can’t make up for a total lack of physical attraction. They’re not gonna override that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 06:45 PM
1

Ding ding ding we have a winner.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 05:53 PM
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Hobbies make you a more interesting person, being interesting is attractive. It’s not going to compensate for being butt ugly, sure, but how can that hurt? I have stopped seeing men I was initially attracted to because they had nothing to talk about but video games and porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 05:52 PM
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Most of the married couples I know met when they were both 22 and broke. Yes gold diggers exist, the same as men who value nothing but a woman’s appearance and ability to show her off like a trophy. That’s not the entire dating pool.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 11:34 AM
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This is cope. Most men in their 20’s have no money and still manage to date.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 05:26 AM
0

That wasn’t a personal attack unless hers was also.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 01:30 AM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 06:50 PM
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That is literally not what I’m saying at all lmfao, I’m saying make both the women in your example the same weight for a more apt comparison. We’re clearly not getting anywhere. Have a nice day.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 04:59 PM
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I’m sorry your reading comprehension is not strong enough to understand what I’m saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 03:56 PM
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I said keep the BMI the same between the women in your example, your metrics vary too much.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 03:54 PM
-1

It couldn’t also possibly have anything to do with the fact that men can physically harm us for offending them either 🙃 do you want us to be assertive or “naturally” feminine and submissive? Which one is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 03:18 PM
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Being desired and being dehumanized are two different things, firstly. Secondly, everyone enjoys attention from people they find attractive and is icked out by attention from people they don’t find attractive. That’s life.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 03:03 PM
-2

This isn’t really a fair example. Use the same BMI for a direct comparison.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 02:51 PM
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Because men stay hot forever, duh. Just go to Walmart and check out all of the sexy middle aged men who look like melting ice cream cones.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 02:56 PM
10

Except I wouldn’t leave my husband for balding. Because I made a commitment. You have mental issues if that’s how you view marriage. Just stay single. Bye now.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 02:53 PM
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“Until death do us part”. Don’t get married if your partner is just a disposable piece of meat to you, gross. You should stay far, far away from women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 02:20 PM
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Lmfao aging is a natural part of being alive and something that you sign up for in a long term relationship. That’s not a “standard” for your partner not to age. You guys want women to be miserable so badly it’s sad. I’m so grateful I’d never marry a man with your pathetic mindset.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 02:11 PM
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They don’t count women they don’t find attractive as people.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 02:03 PM
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They can’t read.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 02:00 PM
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Okay so what? I don’t see it changing for a long, long time despite your revenge fantasy. My cousins are 10+ years older than me and none of them had to settle for losers. Sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 01:55 PM
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Why would I lower my standards when there are enough men who meet them? If no one was meeting them, I would self reflect and adapt. But currently I have no incentive. I’m also not interested in catering to men who view me as depreciating asset anyway. I will never date a bald or a short man because I refuse to be more forgiving of a man’s imperfections than he would ever be of mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 01:50 PM
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Birth rate is a totally separate situation. You seem to just be looking for an excuse to date younger.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 01:10 AM
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Women date men 2-3 years older on average so the idea you can’t date in your 20’s is inaccurate. Dating doesn’t lead to divorce, early marriage (under 25) does. Most people marry someone in their 30’s they started dating in their 20’s. Date a 25 yo at 27, get married at 30, have kids in your early 30’s. That’s what many people do.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 09:32 PM
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So date seriously when you’re young instead of relying on the less likely chance a woman much younger than you will want you when you’re older. Simple solution.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 08:40 PM
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Dude old dudes just want to fuck young women for the part too. Most of you just want sex. This is not the “gotcha” you think it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 08:15 PM
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It’s a weird take for me not to view people who do things I don’t find interesting as not attractive to me? Wow, shocking. I also don’t find Instagram models, porn stars, reality tv stars or most politicians to be high status. But I guess those won’t trigger you as much.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 12:25 AM
2

100%
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 12:22 AM
5

🤷🏽‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 12:21 AM
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I’m an educated black woman and I said what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 12:19 AM
10

Yikes what? Instagram baddies are the target audience for guys like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 12:12 AM
2

The skit is about physical attractiveness, not status. Attractive people get away with more across both genders, news at eleven.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 06:53 PM
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First of all, status is highly subjective. A rapper is not high status to me, though he may be to a different type of woman. Status to me is prestige/class, not just money, plenty of trashy people have money. Different types of people will define these things very differently. Secondly, personality is what keeps a relationship going and I want to be married for life so yes it’s the most important thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 06:52 PM
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Lmfao you guys give the worst advice ever genuinely it’s hilarious.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 06:37 PM
0

You are incorrect. Bye now.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 04:36 AM
0

I do! Have a nice night.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 04:03 AM
0

Nah, I’ve just seen how men truly view women and have lost my faith in humanity. It’s reactionary.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 03:37 AM
1

The red pill has made me hate men when I never did before, so thanks 😊
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 12:05 AM
2

I mean I’d like one too but it’s hilarious to me how people act like believing fairytale movies for children is real advice most adults are giving. Especially feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 05:21 PM
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I have never met a grown adult who advises anyone to believe Disney movies
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 05:51 PM
4

Your revenge fantasy must keep you toasty at night but I have zero issues attracting men my own age or a few years older. This idea that we have to marry much older geezers or end up alone is pure cope. Marriage statistics prove you wrong, the vast majority of married couples have a small age gap. Like over 90%. You’re not living in reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 11:48 PM
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Lmfao if women loved older men so much you guys wouldn’t have to beg us to date them. Sorry I don’t have daddy issues, hard pass.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 11:35 PM
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You’re not happy because you didn’t get what you wanted and I’m sorry for you, but some of us don’t ever want children. Some of us want successful careers. And unless you are hideous you are not too old to find a man. I think being stuck in your location is your biggest issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 09:41 PM
3

Exactly. They act like all women are conventionally hot party girls because they’re the only women they’re chasing after.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 03:58 AM
18

New dick is such an unappealing prospect to me and many committed women considering most men are not attractive or good in bed, besides I want an emotional connection. Cheaters gonna cheat, male or female, not sure what your point is.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 06:39 PM
23

Because men never cheat on their wives. Right?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 06:34 PM
-1

I am so tired of this nauseating drivel, that women only have issues because we target men “above us”. Do you know how many mediocre looking, mediocre earning, men who live at home with their mommies are still terrible partners? Seriously. Character has zero correlation to “status”. The bar is on the floor because relationships are no longer valued. Period.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 04:38 PM
1

People have children for their own personal gratification regardless of what they have to offer a child, that’s definitely self-interested. I am no more selfish than they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 04:27 PM
1

I literally give way more to the system than I take from it, plenty of people with offspring can’t say the same. Bringing a person into the world when you are not particularly rich, smart or good looking just so you can feel a personal sense of fulfillment could also be deemed selfish.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 04:16 PM
4

So have a baby to fill the void champ, nothing trivial or vapid about that. That always works out super well.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 03:06 PM
14

I literally do not care. People suck.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 02:12 AM
20

Okay so fucking what? I didn’t volunteer to be born but I get to make my own choices now that I’m here and I choose not to have children.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 01:56 AM
25

You do realize that all childfree people have parents right and we still decided not to have kids? Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 01:45 AM
11

You want to tax hardworking people for their freedom of choice not to have children? How dystopian of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 01:15 AM
12

The world would be a much better place with fewer people in it. Idiots breeding is not to be applauded.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 01:06 AM
12

And popping out basic ass children is not an inherent accomplishment.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 01:04 AM
10

I’m not a wage slave. I create things. Most people who breed do nothing but create more wage slaves also so what’s your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 12:59 AM
12

Pretty sure childfree people still work and pay taxes so how are we not contributing? Plenty of parents contribute nothing but dysfunctional kids who grow up to become dysfunctional adults.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 12:53 AM
10

Lmfao this is hilariously wrong. A good looking man who is bad in bed is like a Ferrari with no engine.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 01:53 AM
0

That is a helluva projection and you’re not worth engaging with. Fix your flair and have a goodnight.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 02:45 AM
3

There is a difference between dating/marriage and prostitution but if the only thing you value is a shallow woman much better looking than you, go ahead and do that and leave the rest of us alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 01:54 AM
3

I mean that’s just prostitution. If that’s all you want, fine. But the “less” attractive woman with her own education, career etc. —who is realistically probably more similar to you—may actually grow to care about you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 01:49 AM
2

This is what my dad always said. He’s a guy with money and he basically said dumb bimbos are for fun, not marriage or having kids with. Marry a woman with a brain who genuinely wants to build a life with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 01:37 AM
2

Can you please stop speaking for all women? Ambition and drive are attractive yes, but I’d never date an ugly guy just for the money.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 01:33 AM
8

This is why I find it so interesting that a common red pill strategy is to use your money to pull young gold diggers. If you don’t mind them cheating on you because you don’t turn them on, I guess, sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 01:21 AM
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Aren’t you the ones who constantly say men are valued for their resources and that all relationships are basically just a trade of resources for sex? You love to throw that at women to devalue us as we age, guess it cuts both ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 09:00 PM
4

You know, I’m working on it. I’m there 80% of the time these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 10:00 PM
8

I got 3/4 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 05:13 AM
-3

This is literally the biggest fallacy I see on here. You think that ugly men don’t just want sex too? They definitely do. And plenty of them will lie to get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 04:49 AM
6

Okay please avoid! Feeling is mutual, bye.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 05:17 PM
7

Exactly. Not a parent but a loving older sister.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 08:26 PM
13

Most of them will just want sex and people of both genders on dating apps are extremely flaky.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 07:38 AM
9

Because I see other women getting approached and it would make me feel pathetic to have to approach. Plus nobody ever likes me back so the odds aren’t good.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 06:41 AM
6

Not remotely, it was obvious bad faith and I’m glad people aren’t taking the bait.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 07:30 PM
3

100% you described my type as well minus the body hair.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 06:40 PM
-1

No, my boyfriend does but I’m in the humanities. Just lucky.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 04:10 AM
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Of course she did, she needs a green card from you. Enjoy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 04:06 AM
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Decent men will still find women. I’ll be keeping my Canadian.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 04:00 AM
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Women are doing it for themselves. If it happens to negatively impact terrible men, that’s just a bonus.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 03:51 AM
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Not everything is about you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 03:46 AM
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You dummies are always saying women have it on easy mode. But now all of a sudden I’m an incel who can’t get laid. Very logical. Kk.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 02:17 AM
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I have a boyfriend princess, go on Grindr and you can have one too.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 02:15 AM
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No it’s very much a choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 02:10 AM
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I already find most men totally undateable so it’s not that far fetched to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 01:43 AM
2

Agree!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 08:27 PM
3

It also largely depends on the individual woman and her headspace. There are days and places I’m more tolerant of being approached than others. Some days I really just don’t want to deal with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 05:08 PM
3

You’re being intentionally obtuse. Refute my point about women gaining rights centuries after men or be quiet. You people always want to act like the second you grant someone rights it’s supposed to erase centuries of inequality. And there are still barriers in place to limit women from succeeding, the law is not the only barrier. But this is all pointless, because you fundamentally need to believe men are superior to women to justify your otherwise mediocre existence.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 04:49 PM
2

Men used force to steal already existing natural resources for centuries you cretin. You don’t build Rome in a day, and you don’t unbuild it either. Men had a 1000 year head start on rights, power and wealth building. If you can’t understand that, go back to school.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 04:26 PM
4

This is so hilariously historically inaccurate that I can’t help but chuckle but what do you expect from Reddit. I’m sure you have some fun takes on colonization too.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 03:18 PM
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I make mid six figures, lecture someone else. I’m merely pointing out that you set this system up. You conditioned generations of women to be dependent on men, therefore evolving to seek resources, and now you resent it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 06:18 AM
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Women did not make the rules that men needed to provide, men did. Men gate kept literally all of the power and resources, so that the only way we could get it was by being your wife/mistress whatever. You did that part to yourselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 06:12 AM
3

Ladies and gentlemen we have a winner
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 06:10 AM
3

You have yet to acknowledge a single thing men could do differently. Personal responsibility goes both ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 12:00 AM
2

Lmao again putting it all right back on the woman. I’m done here. Have a nice night.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 11:54 PM
2

Again, SMV is HIGHLY subjective. You guys use that term like it’s objective and universal and it’s not. Not to mention, she could have equivalent SMV to the dude, and he can still just use her for sex because all he ever wanted was sex to start with. That happens…everyday. It’s not always a reflection on her.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 11:47 PM
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No, it’s not. Because it still means he doesn’t really value her, regardless of what she looks like. Men commit when they feel like it and then don’t when they don’t, even if she’s a knockout. Because it’s about their mindset. Few men will turn down the chance to bang a model, but plenty still won’t marry her.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 11:35 PM
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The idea that the only reason a man won’t commit to a woman is because her (highly subjective) “value” isn’t high enough is one of the biggest red pill delusions. There’s a such thing as mindset, compatibility and timing, and those are much better predictions. Women get on cheated and treated like garbage by men who are much uglier than they are every single day.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 10:59 PM
2

I also had to next a really cute guy this summer because he started throwing some podcast vibe red flags. Ranted for a full 20 minutes on our second date about some girl who wouldn’t go out with him because he didn’t make enough money, women only want resources etc. (while also mentioning how hot she was a good few times). Told me men liked beauty and women liked money like he’d discovered the holy grail. I told him not to call me. The dating pool is poisoned. It’s really sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 11:52 PM
3

I feel the same way
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 08:20 PM
2

I’m very in tune now to their thought process, lingo and classic tells. I try not to be cynical, but if I hear any red flags I’m out immediately. I no longer give the benefit of the doubt when I sense misogyny, I just leave. Because it’s probably deeper than they’re showing me upfront.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 08:15 PM
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I’m actually super content but thanks for your faux concern. If they were quality women, you wouldn’t be getting a new one every month, because they wouldn’t be allowing themselves to be used like that. Toodles.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 01:02 AM
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Congratulations on having meaningless sex with bar skanks, what a life to be proud of as you approach middle age
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 12:59 AM
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There are more good looking older women in my opinion than older men because women know we’re judged harshly on our looks and act accordingly, whereas a lot of men just let it go.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 10:39 PM
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6 years is not the same as the 10 + gaps the men around here seem to think are totally easy to bridge. Especially when both parties are still young. Good luck dating 22 when you’re 40.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 09:07 PM
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Young and fertile women don’t want old ass men to procreate with. They missed the boat. Enjoy your prostitutes and beer.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 07:41 PM
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Well yeah if I can’t verify you’re not a convicted felon I’m not going out with you. You seem like you make your own problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 07:38 PM
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If that were the only thing women cared about we’d all be married to much older men instead of the average age gap being 2 years. Try again. Women DO care about age no matter how much you cope that we don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 07:36 PM
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I don’t have the option not to screen because I’ll get murdered so I literally cannot relate. Screening is hugely important to avoid totally preventable problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 07:33 PM
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Your average 40 something year old man is as fuckable as a pile of horse manure.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 07:32 PM
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So you do zero screening and then complain and generalize all women. Gotcha.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 05:51 PM
6

Thank you for this.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 05:46 PM
4

This is a skill issue if it keeps happening to you. As the men here love to say: pick better.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 05:43 PM
2

Men die sooner than women, so you’re closer to the grave than any of your female counterparts. There’s some actual science for you grandpa.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 05:23 PM
2

The reason most men have to go to third world countries to pull that off is staring you right in the face. It’s not a good deal for a woman who isn’t desperate.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 03:03 PM
2

lol we weren’t even talking about baggage, we were talking about looks. And you do “make the rules” because you made all of this red pill shit up and it just so happens to be conveniently full of sexist double standards. Funny that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 02:45 PM
1

Funny how the men here never say this can also apply to women. We magically expire on a random Tuesday regardless.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 02:19 PM
1

You’re delusional if you think young women want to have babies with old men who are going to die and leave them as relatively young widows with children. I’d rather die.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 02:01 PM
12

You’re welcome to try sucking dick. I would never date a man who thought my anatomy was gross.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 05:03 AM
29

Exactly, I’m better off with my vibrator then with most men
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 02:54 AM
27

It’s not discriminatory to not want to date someone who isn’t compatible with the lifestyle you want. Kids are a big deal. And there’s a whole faction of the male population that loathes single mothers so…it’s not the same. Women don’t make podcasts bashing single dads.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 04:40 AM
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I’m a 20 something and I’m trying to figure out why tf a 20 something would be more likely to want a middle aged man with a litter of children
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 04:31 AM
10

This
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 05:04 PM
8

You’re right we’re all terrible please stay away from us.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 04:51 AM
5

You don’t know anything about me but you assume I’m a bitch because I’m successful. That’s the definition of an assumption. My partner has no issues with my success. I can make 6 figures and still bake for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 02:04 AM
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I’m not going to be broke to appeal to insecure men who make assumptions. I’d rather keep the money.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 12:58 AM
7

You’ve commented three times to insult me, I’d say you should take your own advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 02:44 AM
1

At least 30%, I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 02:22 AM
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We definitely do understand and that’s why we’re afraid of you and don’t trust you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 02:20 AM
5

I’m a history PhD and I’m not going to argue with you when you move the goalposts. No one said society “promotes” rape, just that at lot more men would commit sexual assault if it went unpunished. Just like a lot more people would steal and murder. The end.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 02:15 AM
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And every single society also had mass rapes. Every war in history has involved mass rapes, it’s literally considered a war crime because it happened so often. Not even getting into the fact that marital rape was completely allowed.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 02:10 AM
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Not according to every society in human history. Sorry, facts are not on your side here.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 02:03 AM
4

I’m a woman and don’t like dating apps either. It’s not an issue of quantity but quality. And the fact that I’m childfree, which seems to be rare on dating apps, just makes it hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 01:02 AM
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A lot of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 12:24 AM
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This has got to be a troll post
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 10:38 PM
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Believe it or not I’ve rejected men for being both physically unappealing to me and for coming across as douchey.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 12:06 AM
2

Most women take care of themselves these days, lol at no responsibility. We do everything men do and most of the domestic labor.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 08:09 PM
6

Would you want to date an ugly fat woman if she was pleasant to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 06:49 PM
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Emotionally healthy women are attracted to respect and kindness from men they find attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 05:17 PM
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I do. Cheaters have poor character. I don’t want people like that around me.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 04:06 PM
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Not a college mixer dude. Meetups for graduates. You sign up online on your standard meet up sites, and technically anyone can show up.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 07:46 AM
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It’s still technically a singles meet up.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 04:24 AM
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Dude, some people just don’t like online dating. My friend met her husband at an Ivy League mixer.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 03:22 AM
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Done it before, disliked
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 10:16 PM
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No way.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 04:42 AM
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Sorry to ruin your stereotypical image of black people. Mom’s an attorney too. ✨
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 05:28 PM
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Yes, but I would care because in today’s world it’s borderline cruel to have children when you have nothing to pass on to them. A head start is literally required if you don’t want to end up a miserable wage slave. I would hate my parents if they’d had me poor. Genuinely. The only reason I have shit now is because they didn’t. I look at my cousins and cringe.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 05:01 PM
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Not all black people are poor. There’s a solid black middle class in several parts of the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 04:59 PM
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You’re an old parent yourself (you’re the same age as my dad and I’m 27). Most people your age are playing with their grandkids, not their kids, so you can see for yourself the advantages and disadvantages. It’s not the 80’s anymore. If you want low cost childcare you have to be comfortable dumping your kid at a crack house or you’d better pray you have family who can watch them for free. I’d never raise a child in a rental. Seriously if I can’t have a decent quality of life for myself and a kid…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 02:45 PM
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How old are you, though? The world has changed. Also you’re a statistical exception, not the rule. Most people don’t make it out of poverty and it becomes generational. Any idea how much daycare costs these days?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 02:19 PM
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Excuse me, there’s no need to make this racist. I’m black and my father is a millionaire who waited until he was 36 to have me.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 02:14 PM
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Poor people have babies because they’re uneducated and don’t have access to birth control, you cannot compare first world countries to third world countries on this issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 02:09 PM
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Raising kids is insanely expensive, that’s why people are waiting as long as they possibly can. Address wages and the cost of housing and childcare or shush with the hand flapping because it’s not gonna change. I live in two of the most expensive cities in the world, absolutely nobody has kids in their 20’s unless they’re broke already and don’t mind staying that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 01:40 PM
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If your spouse isn’t your best friend and number one teammate, I don’t see the point of getting married. You don’t need to be identical but you do need to compliment each other highly. You can screen for multiple things.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 05:04 PM
0

Just a little taste of your own medicine.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 04:19 PM
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Already done lmao, you’ve clearly never dated a man
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 03:22 PM
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To make money from porn brained men lmao you continue to prove my point
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 04:04 PM
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And by women you mean porn stars. Who perform those acts mostly for the pleasure of men. Kk. Touch grass.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 03:51 PM
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“Women are more degenerate than men when it comes to sex” is an objectively false statement
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 03:45 PM
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Let’s check the sex offender registry and see how well that checks out 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 03:36 PM
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Once again, how is it my “bad decision making” that led to me going on a get to know you first date with guys who appear normal at first glance? Red pillers: women need to give more guys a chance. You’re too picky. Also red pillers: you need to choose better, it’s your fault for not being more selective
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 02:57 PM
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Lmaoooo Disney movies lie to women far more than they lie to men. Imagine our disappointment. It’s called growing up. Men lie, cheat, use us for sex, impregnate and abandon us, abuse and kill us. Does that mean I get to become bitter and lump all men as “bad?” Sure if I want to be miserable. You want to be a victim, go ahead.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 02:43 PM
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Glad you think so! Men who think women’s only purpose is to pop out babies are a huge red flag to me
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 01:15 PM
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Sure, it’s probably 10%. But you guys don’t factor in actual compatibility. He may be fine on paper but that doesn’t mean he’d actually work out as a serious partner for every individual woman. I don’t want kids, that filters out a lot of guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 04:28 AM
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You guys constantly confuse quantity with quality. Sure, it’s easily to get lots of sexual attention. But if you think most women aren’t relationship material anymore, the same is also true for men. Mind you if we choose a guy who turns out to be abusive and or a loser we get told we should’ve chosen better. Here’s an example of three first dates I’ve been on with guys you would all superficially consider gonna adequate (lawyer, teacher, dentist): 1) admitted he watched bestiality porn 2) compla…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 04:09 AM
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It’s okay I could have been clearer. I’m running a 102 fever. Probably need a nap.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 06:55 PM
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Not at all what was implied.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 06:53 PM
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Ok who said it wasn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 06:50 PM
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You guys really think the only thing we’re good for is sex and I’m no longer entertaining this dumb ass question. Men have plenty of standards for wives they don’t have for women they just want to screw.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 06:31 PM
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Exactly. You eliminate people out of your age range and it already cuts it way way down.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 09:05 PM
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I have a specific type. White, under 35, blue or green eyes, brown hair, clean cut looking. No tattoos or anything. So there’s probably a minority of the population that ticks every single one of those boxes and makes me instantly take notice. But very importantly it doesn’t mean I think everyone else is ugly…they can be objectively okay looking or attractive and not my type.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 09:03 PM
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Not about that. It’s about self respect as I said. But not everyone has that or views it the same way.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 08:55 PM
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He is legit repulsive I’m sorry. I don’t see how any self respecting woman would touch him.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 08:46 PM
1

I’m thinking that if there’s way more women than men there will be more violent incels than there are now
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 08:40 PM
2

Sure, but this sub also hates single moms and people who have kids they can’t afford. At some point we do the best we can. I don’t want kids, and I’m grateful for it because we live in a messed up world.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 03:34 PM
2

Okay? Science exists. People use it for all kinds of things.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 03:00 PM
1

It has to be mutual. Both people need to choose each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 02:23 PM
1

lol no, it’s just you bros constantly tell women if we don’t get picked it’s because need to lower our standards so I’m keeping the same energy
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 02:09 PM
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I find people are usually willing to overlook that if it means they get something they want. I find it ironic too, but it comes to a desire for babies people bend all kind of rules
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 02:24 AM
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I disagree, I know of a lot of evangelical Christians who have also used IVF. It’s pretty common. A huge number of my classmates growing up were test tube babies. I don’t want kids thankfully so I’m not personally invested.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 02:13 AM
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I also know a lot of well off career women who have frozen their eggs. If you have $$$ you can somewhat circumvent certain things.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 02:05 AM
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It seems to me a hugely lopsided ratio of women to men would result in more sexual violence, no? That seems to me it would cancel out any other perceived benefits. I’d like it to stay 50/50 ish.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 01:50 AM
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Because marriage rates are all women’s fault! Reeeeee you stupid whores!!!! Forget the economy, or anything else, it’s you spoiled women wanting Chads. 🤡
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 01:38 AM
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Thank you. It can feel incredibly violating.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 09:22 PM
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You don’t know any normal women do you? Touch grass and stop watching so many podcasts. Not your honey either Wish Andrew Tate.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 09:00 PM
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I’ve been approached on the street easily 100 + times in my life. I’ve found exactly one of those dudes semi attractive. And he probably was still too old for me to have actually gone out with (I had a boyfriend). The street, especially in busy cities, is not a great place to get people to lower their guard. It’s very awkward.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 01:41 PM
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Except that’s not true at all. You think that women can only struggle to find the right person because we’re chasing Mega Chad, as if the dating market isn’t populated with emotionally immature men who don’t want to commit and or who make horrible partners. Yes, even non great looking men. Looks do not translate to character at all, I’ve met plenty of ugly assholes. You also have to find someone who wants the same things that you do. Maybe if you actually touched some grass you’d realize it isn’…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 01:02 PM
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Or…crazy idea…she was in a long term relationship that ended because that’s an incredibly common life experience. 🙄 you morons act like women are supposed to stop aging while we’re in relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 03:56 AM
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Lmao enjoy being a beta bux for a green card 😂 (assuming this isn’t just a porn fantasy…which it likely is)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 03:49 AM
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This
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 02:43 PM
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So he wasn’t desirable enough to get picked, sounds like he should settle
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 01:25 AM
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Yup. Normal/desirable young women don’t want to reproduce with old men. And they don’t have to, because they have better options.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 06:10 PM
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You’re more than 10 years older than me but I’d like to be you one day ❤️
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 05:58 PM
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Because it’s a raw deal for the woman and a lot of us are starting to realize that. I have no interest and can’t see it changing unless I become a multimillionaire. Even then.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 05:57 PM
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Exactly. I remember seeing some 56 yo man whining nobody wanted to have his babies. No shit Sherlock.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 05:51 PM
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Lmao you’re going to be one of those lonely 40 yo men trolling for 25 yos who think you’re way too old for them if you keep up this mentality. Not to mention how selfish it is to have kids too old. If you wanted 4 kids you should’ve started in your 20’s.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 05:49 PM
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So why are you still single at 34? Why not marry in your 20’s when none of this is an issue? Instead of now having to rely on women 10 years younger than you wanting you?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 05:46 PM
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Nope
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 07:14 PM
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lol at higher level, even the broke ugly ones among you are disgusted by body hair. And yes part of the reason is society but part of it is because I know my current partner enjoys it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 05:57 PM
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It depends why. When I met my current partner he’s only been with one other person and never actually had a real relationship. It didn’t bother me.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 04:54 PM
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Reading comprehension really needs to be taught in schools. I never said they were the same thing. And nobody wants to hear about your dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 04:42 PM
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I don’t date past 32 yet but when I’m a few years older, assuming I’m attracted to him, yes
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 04:36 PM
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I don’t view other women as competition. The right person for me will choose me.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 04:34 PM
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I mean the men commenting on this specifically not all men
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 04:00 PM
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I agree
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 03:51 PM
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Maybe women don’t care to please you specifically. I don’t hear the men I know complaining
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 03:33 PM
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I don’t do hookups, but it seems like a lot of men on here always bring up that if she knows what she’s doing, it’s because someone else taught her
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 03:22 PM
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Nobody cares about the sexual desires of random men, if you’re not my partner I don’t care.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 03:19 PM
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Are you guys incapable of holding more than one reality in your heads at a time?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 03:17 PM
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Okay nobody said women conform to beauty standards to get better at sex. Also, when we have sexual experience you call us ran through soooo
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 03:00 PM
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For random men? Yeah no we don’t, we are specifically talking about dynamics within a relationship but I see you’ve all rushed here with giant hard ons to miss the point
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 02:59 PM
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When we are in a sexual RELATIONSHIP we do consider what our partner finds attractive. I don’t give a damn what random men I’m not interested in think of my sexual attractiveness, however that doesn’t mean I wanted to be mocked for my appearance either
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 02:58 PM
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It’s almost as if women aren’t a monolith and different women do things for different reasons, wow
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 02:57 PM
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We do it for multiple reasons but societal pressure is one of them, women who don’t do it get treated like crap by men and women alike
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 02:39 PM
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You think women don’t “perform” for men? What do you think a lot of beauty standards are? I don’t wax my entire body because it’s fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 02:32 PM
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😂
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 01:25 PM
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Your mom being a trashy skank = all women. Sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 08:47 PM
27

This shit again Jesus
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 06:04 PM
7

Men do this shit too though…plenty of women are also “black pilled” watching our male relatives treat women like shit
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 04:08 AM
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7 +
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 05:30 PM
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It’s actually to do with colorism and colonialism.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 05:21 PM
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I’m not talking about being fat, I’m talking about preferences for skin color etc
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 04:21 PM
2

Did I say that? Porn amplifies.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 03:04 PM
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She’s going to regret that heavily in a few years assuming she even exists in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 02:14 PM
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Yeah when I was 18/19 I used to tell older men I wanted to leave me alone I was 17. It only worked half the time, the other half of the time it would make them keener. Gross.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 02:07 PM
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Fetishizing someone is about focusing on specific trait and reducing them to a sexual object as a result. Age, race, etc. can be a lot of different things. PS: if you are over 21, 19 year olds think you’re old.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 02:06 PM
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You’re right predators have always existed but porn has definitely amplified this.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 02:03 PM
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Exactly. This is far more nuanced than what we usually see in this sub. We are all influenced heavily by our environments, there’s a reason beauty standards vary widely across cultures too.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 01:57 PM
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Porn has absolutely led to a lot of you porn brain rot men fetishizing teenagers.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 01:49 PM
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If you practice what you preach there’s no issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 03:26 AM
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I’ve never been promiscuous and don’t date promiscuous people. Date people whose values align with yours and stop worrying so much about what other people do, weirdos
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 03:23 AM
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Your obsession with where women you don’t know put their body parts is really strange.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 03:22 AM
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Men who have been unwashed porn addicts in the past, how do you expect women to take you serious? 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 03:16 AM
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lol Pearl is that you?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 04:04 PM
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This is the sanest thing I’ve read on Reddit in a long time
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 06:36 PM
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Lmao please go to non Western countries where they have traditional gender rolls and men are expected to provide and then get back to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 10:10 PM
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Yes because they’re purchasing it. You’re not guaranteed food if you hunt but you are if you go to the grocery store and buy it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 07:56 PM
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Women do care about looks though. A lot. The fact that some women will essentially prostitute themselves for money doesn’t disprove that rule. Beyoncé has actually said she finds Jay Z handsome. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 07:48 PM
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Hahaha 😂I’m 27 and trying to get off this ride before everyone gets fat. Real.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 05:38 PM
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Lmao who told you this?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 05:26 PM
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Once everyone is old I think it matters to people less. Also, the pickings are slimmer.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 05:20 PM
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Most of you get called delusional because you think huge age gaps are normal and underestimate the actual requirements for old dudes to date much younger. A paid off Toyota Corolla is not going to do it, the serious gold diggers want a lot more than that and I can’t say I blame them. You also get called delusional because you deny the male aging process and greatly exaggerate the female one. Nobody is saying 5 year gaps are impossible.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 05:18 PM
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I see a lot of men saying this but you have to be realistic. As someone never married with no kids, I def don’t want some divorced dude with kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 04:10 AM
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Thank you for admitting this. I don’t think it’s a good sign in either gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 04:22 AM
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How is it forcing something on you to expect you to be a decent human being and not comment on stranger’s bodies out loud? You should be on a watch list.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 09:40 PM
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Are you seriously saying you should able to verbally harass people just because they’re wearing revealing clothes? Wtf
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 08:16 PM
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Tbh it’s not that hard to find someone who isn’t fat if you live in a more affluent area. Despite the overall obesity statistics, well off people in general are a lot less likely to be fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 01:47 PM
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Exactly. Gorgeous women get cheated on too and it has nothing to do with the way they look. Men are gonna do what they want to do, period.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 06:34 AM
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Whether a woman can “get” commitment is largely determined by whether a man is commitment minded in the first place, it has nothing to do with whether she is attractive enough. Attractive women also struggle to find commitment because we live in a hook up culture where everyone thinks the grass is always greener at the next swipe. You should see some of the bridge troll men that have passed on opportunities to date pretty women because they’d rather continue to chase gutter fucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 08:01 PM
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Young women are allowed to not find older men attractive or appreciate your sketchy advances sorry. Maybe worry about your hairline instead of how random women age.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 04:53 AM
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You don’t seem to realize how old 35 seems to a 21 year old. Even a 25 yo. If it were that easy, every 35 yo dude with a decent job would have a much younger gf and most of them don’t. Because we don’t find them physically attractive. Sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 07:30 AM
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Kind, empathetic, emotionally intelligent, responsible, leads by example. Doesn’t have a podcast.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 04:01 PM
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Women were property married off by their fathers. You seem confused.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 02:55 PM
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Correct. Or if you have bizarre social skills, find someone who matches your energy. Don’t chase after people who are going to think you’re a weirdo.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 07:05 PM
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It’s not self imposed that the majority of men lack the basic empathy and communication skills to make a relationship work in the long run, but okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 06:51 PM
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Historically women did not choose their mates, they were chosen for us, so what kind of logic is this?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 06:33 PM
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Most men are not viable options for a successful relationship. We have options in the same way you have junk mail.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 06:24 PM
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It’s true for non married people too though. Most people are not dating someone way older. But whatever, if you’ve never been outside in the general population before, I can’t help you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 06:18 PM
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No, it’s still true in 2024. I mean literally just touch grass. Go outside and tell me how many women you see with dudes 10+ years older. Look at your average couple. Like with like.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 06:13 PM
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The marriage statistics are perfectly clear that 90% of relationships do not involve a large age gap. How does that track with your therapy that most women are all marrying old men for money? The red pillers always screech that women are shallow and only want 6’2 Chads but also claim that well we care about is money. It can’t be both.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 06:05 PM
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Women also want physical and emotional attraction, though, otherwise all the 20 somethings would be dating balding 40+ yo men. But we aren’t. Because we don’t want them touching us. I’m not missing anything, but you’re looking at one piece of the pie, when most women are looking at the whole thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 05:43 PM
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Men do NOT have the most choosing power at 50. That is pure delusion and a total misrepresentation. It’s merely that the women they still have access to are more likely to be desperate.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 04:56 PM
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By your own red pill logic, men can improve themselves, while women invariably lose value every passing second. If that’s really true, don’t you have forever to find a mate? So how do you have it worse?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 04:48 PM
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You think that may have something to do with how the husband handles the wife out earning him? I don’t think you can pull out that one statistic and actually know what goes on in a marriage. Also, settling is difficult to define universally because settling is a mindset. My cousin married a washed up musician who travels the country in a dingy van and she’s happy as a pig in shit because she’s a hippie. I would consider that settling, but she doesn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 08:07 AM
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Most of the old ladies I know are mostly seeking companionship. I think priorities change once everyone is saggy, done having kids and looking at who they want by their side at their deathbed.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 05:46 AM
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Surely you can see the difference between loving someone and taking a 20 dollar bill in a back alley though? The difference is that “in sickness and in health etc” won’t hold up if the only reason you’re there is what you can get. I would argue it’s a stronger foundation for a real relationship. An 80 yo man can buy a 30 yo woman’s “time” but he can never make her attracted to him, and she will likely bang his pool boy behind his back to fulfill that desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 11:13 PM
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Exactly. So much evo psych bullshit gets spouted in this sub, nice to see some real science.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 10:51 PM
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I think you don’t realize that what you see as “settling” may not always be that. Women don’t just marry for looks, personality, shared values etc matter way more than looks when choosing a spouse. Most men are not good looking and will simply become balder and fatter, so marrying exclusively for that is not a good idea. You discount the idea that women can feel emotional connection which leads to sexual attraction and love, which is not the same thing as prostitution. If you’ve never had a woma…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 09:36 PM
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Believe it or not some people want to have sex with people who are attracted to them and consider having to pay a service worker to touch their penis unappealing. There are plenty of rich and famous dudes who could pay what are essentially hookers for sex and they still choose to have wives. Relationships are only prostitution if the man is unattractive. Hate to break it to you but hot men get laid for free.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 09:26 PM
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Cool story bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 09:24 PM
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So was I, but that’s all the more reason for the decent ones among us to stick together. Running towards men is not gonna save you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 07:34 PM
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Cool, let’s all live in a facist state with mandatory military service. See ya on the front lines.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 08:56 AM
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Just gonna ignore the massive sexual assault risk to women huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 08:43 AM
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Yup. I truly don’t think that most men like or respect us. We’re essentially utilities to them at best. So yes, girl’s girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 08:25 AM
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Nope, but again I don’t really give a shit. I wouldn’t sign up for the US military because of the rape statistics, that alone is enough for me. Doubt you care about that though.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 08:23 AM
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Do you think I’m pro war? Send an email to Putin
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 08:22 AM
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Wartime is fundamentally different from peace time though.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 07:14 AM
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A lot of men don’t even want women in the military. It seems cultural.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 06:31 AM
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I think it makes more sense not to conscript women unless there is a truly desperate need. In the history of war, societies function better when men fight and women stay home and mind domestic affairs. Though tbf, we do have modern technology now which perhaps changes things.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 06:20 AM
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I don’t disagree with this but the reason women (and the elderly) traditionally stayed home in wartime is because )someone has to look after the children and b) there are civilian jobs that still need to be filled. You can’t draft the entire population. P
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 05:29 AM
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Did I say it was? I don’t run the Ukrainian government believe it or not. But it makes no sense to forcefully draft a bunch of 120lb chicks to defend against Putin.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 05:10 AM
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Equity =/ identical. Men are physically stronger, it makes sense they should make up the bulk of the nation’s defense force.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 04:47 AM
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Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 03:29 AM
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No it’s just women because Reddit said so. 😊
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 03:23 AM
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Is that the only thing you’re going to respond to?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 03:00 AM
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That doesn’t change my point, though. Men have the ability to walk away, you don’t think selfishness is wired into that? Most women are also not wannabe single moms going after some guy’s measly 50k a year salary. A lot of the evo psych babble red pillers spout also totally ignores the impact of culture and society on people’s behavior patterns. ReSOurCes are not the only thing women care about. If it were most of you would die alone because most of you are broke. Also nice take on it being a wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 02:45 AM
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Lmao that’s the most elaborate defense of deadbeat behavior I’ve ever heard. And when I enter into a partnership with someone, I expect them honor it. That doesn’t make me selfish, sorry. And please stop acting like this is 1300, women also contribute their resources to raising a child. Not just financially but physically also.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 02:31 AM
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Do you have any data to back that up? I am pointing out that men often relentlessly pursue their own self-interest. The ability to knock a woman up and then simply skip town would make it easier to be selfish, not harder.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 02:21 AM
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Look it up. It’s actually part of what the oncology nurses warn women about when they get diagnosed.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 02:13 AM
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Did you know that men are several times more likely to abandon a chronically or terminally ill spouse than the other way around?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 02:07 AM
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I totally disagree with this as I and every other woman I’ve met have been screwed over far more often by men who prioritize their desire to get laid over a woman’s emotions. In fact, the fact that you can impregnate a woman and WALK AWAY indicates that it’s far, far easier for you to be selfish. Not to mention men cheat more. Both very selfish acts.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 02:02 AM
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Have you met the average American? Selfish has nothing to do with gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 01:55 AM
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Oh nooo I’m scared, you told me to shut the fuck up but you want to preach decorum. And you didn’t offer any support or data to debate you just whined, because you think getting requests for 3am booty calls is the same thing as being able to find a guy who wants to marry you. If you hate being a man so much get a sex change or date gay men, then you too can discover the pleasure of someone always be willing to use you for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 12:42 AM
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I’m sorry no one has touched your penis in a while but you have no idea what it’s like to be a woman either.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 12:30 AM
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This narrative is so tired, please go touch grass. Having an easier time getting dates doesn’t mean it’s easy to find commitment with your soulmate.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 12:09 AM
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A shockingly healthy take. Same here.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 05:40 PM
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Thank you. Most of us want to settle down, some people just take longer to find their person and it has nothing to do with lack of trying.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 05:32 PM
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That’s because most people’s perception of black people/women is negative and based on the bottom 20% of the demographic. When (non-racist) people actually meet you and find you attractive they stop caring about their stereotypical expectations.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 10:55 AM
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Saying black people have low IQs is classic racism. Go fuck yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 10:53 AM
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As a 4’11 black girl who dates college educated white men exclusively I always find these little circle jerks amusing. I’ve never struggled to attract male attention or be seen as feminine, the only people who would see me as manly are just flat out racist. Most of the things you bitch about when you make sweeping generalizations about black women have to do with class/education and not race. Maybe stop hanging around the hood and or trailer park.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 10:32 AM
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This is the most racist piece of garbage I’ve read in a while and that’s saying a lot for Reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 10:29 AM
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Exactly
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 06:38 PM
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White feminism is not my feminism but okay dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 07:58 PM
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Does she speak for everybody? Bffr. I just want the right to choose my own life and not be sold off to some fat nasty old man and bred for 20 years like my grandmother.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 06:05 PM
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Feminism is not a lifestyle, feminism is the choice to choose your lifestyle instead of having exactly one option forced on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 04:44 PM
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Not remotely. It’s the way they try to promote a cosplay fairytale version of trad wife life without acknowledging any of the hard realities or potential pitfalls.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 04:18 PM
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Nope, I am in a very easy relationship with someone my age. 20’s. Sorry bud.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 06:13 PM
2

Lmfao fair enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 07:20 AM
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It depends on the woman. Personally I’m a face girlie, there’s no workout that can get past that barrier. I also like a nice thick head of hair. And those things are pretty much genetic. I have friends though who care way more about height and physique than I do.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 07:13 AM
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I’m extremely loyal and supportive. All I want is the same energy back. I truly believe you should put in what you expect to get out. Like I truly will go to the ends of the earth for the people I love and I just want to not feel stupid and or unappreciated for doing that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 06:59 AM
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You’re delusional if you think an inexperienced , insecure, messy twenty two year old is going to make for a drama free relationship. I had the most toxic relationships from 18-22. You’re also delusional if you think she’s not going to have any expectations in dating a 40 yo man over a guy her own age. No such thing as a free lunch.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 06:47 AM
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I doubt they are turning their heads back, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 06:12 AM
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This is spot on. It’s like when people think their racial preferences are totally random. Nope. Society influences us massively from the time we’re small children.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 06:11 AM
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I felt the same way at your age and now in my 20’s I feel pretty much the same. IDK how much money a man has if I don’t find him physically attractive or feel emotionally safe with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 05:52 AM
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Most men on dating apps just want to hook up though. If you’re looking for a serious relationship it can be difficult to find. Not crazy difficult but not as easy as you may think.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 07:28 AM
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Lmao I’ve been proposed to. I said no. Another one should be incoming at the end of the year. I love not dating low IQ manosphere troglodytes. It’s so great.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 12:34 AM
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Okay, sure dude. Highly educated men want the mothers of their children to be uneducated idiots. You’re totally right. Rock on Andrew Tate! I’ll keep dating rich, educated men who tell me point blank they value my ambition and intelligence and you keep believing you speak for all men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 12:29 AM
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That’s not true, only lower class uneducated men don’t care. And I don’t care about them anyway. The statistics are very clear most people marry within their education level and social class.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 10:55 PM
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Remember? Yes. Respect? Definitely not. I also remember burning my hand on the stove doesn’t mean I respect the stove.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 10:29 AM
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I’m not fat. Classic hourglass. Some just like a small chest. The dudes chasing East Asian women are clearly not looking for curves.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 06:10 PM
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I’m very busty (not fake) and have been told several times by men they prefer smaller ones. So it’s definitely not that uncommon.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 10:00 PM
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I’m not refusing to hire anyone or denying them housing, I just don’t want to bone middle aged men. So you can’t really call it discrimination. And if you’re being honest with yourself, you’ll admit that when you were younger you weren’t looking at way older people (barring celebrity good looking people). The attraction has always been for the most part, a one way street.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 02:07 PM
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Least creative troll in a while
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 02:00 PM
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If you’re 40 + and easily manipulated by a teenager you may actually be slow.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 03:29 AM
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But the aptitude is what changes. It’s much easier for a 40 yo to manipulate a 19 yo than vice versa because the 40 yo has more life experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 02:32 AM
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We know, we still don’t like it. It just sends a shiver down my spine to think of someone my dad’s age looking at me. Gross.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 02:25 AM
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Plenty of young girls complain about creepy older men hitting on them and say they don’t like it but you trolls conveniently ignore that in favor of being able to paint women as jealous and bitter.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 09:50 PM
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Do you cry when you jerk off? It sounds like you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 09:42 PM
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But my 6ft, six figure earning, lovely boyfriend very much is and we’re very happy. Cry more.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 09:40 PM
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LMAO okay incel, I’ll tell that to the dozens of men in my DMs right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 09:36 PM
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LOL I’m in my 20’s and have no issues with men. Cope harder.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 09:34 PM
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You can hit on 18-25 yos and they can (and most likely will) reject you as will their friends and family. Boohoo.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 09:01 AM
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I look about 6 years younger than my real age. I’m a short mixed race POC. I still don’t look like a teenager. More early 20’s. I think it’s rare to actually be true.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 12:28 AM
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He’s a closeted right wing grifter, what makes him qualified to give life advice to college graduates? Patronizing, sexist tool.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 06:53 PM
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Good. Less unwanted children that will end up being a burden on the system.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 02:01 PM
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Nope, why should the tax payer have to pick up the check because you raw dogged some girl? That’s your problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 03:24 AM
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I’m not a law enforcement officer or a judge. It makes no difference to society if I believe her, but it may make a huge psychological difference to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 02:52 AM
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My answer isn’t changing. Most people don’t lie about rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 02:13 AM
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Very because you have to be a sociopath to make that up and the percentage of sociopaths is statistically small.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 02:02 AM
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Exactly this, most of us would prefer never to think about such a horrific thing. Jesus.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 01:56 AM
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You can’t honestly see why people may be too afraid to report it? Especially if they were a child at the time?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 01:55 AM
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It’s not the same thing at all. The law recognizes personhood starting at birth. Once a child is born it has a legal right to be supported by both parents. It’s not about your obligation to her, it’s about your obligation to that baby. And I don’t want my taxes going up because you don’t want to pay for your spawn. I didn’t fuck her. If it were me I’d get an abortion. But that doesn’t mean if she doesn’t you get to just fuck off.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 12:29 AM
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I am a young bisexual woman and I genuinely like MILFs. A lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 05:02 AM
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Lmao I just texted my boyfriend 10 minutes ago to come over after work tomorrow because I’m craving his touch, but ok dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 05:09 AM
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Exactly! It’s just not appealing to me period
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 04:48 AM
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This is crap. I’m young and many Gen Z women think it has the potential to be problematic and gross. Enough with the jealous old lady narrative, the reason you’re not banging hot 25 yos is cause they don’t want to bang you, plain and simple. It’s got nothing to do with older women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 04:45 AM
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I go on a girl’s trip with my female cousins every year and not one of us has ever cheated. How about dating people you actually like you and have decent character?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 02:45 AM
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They’re single digits and get smaller and smaller the wider the gap becomes. That speaks for itself I think.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 04:05 AM
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The only advantage to dating a way older guy is if a) he has money and b) you don’t mind the possibility he’ll die way sooner and you want to inherit his money as quickly as possible. Think Anna Nicole Smith. Otherwise it increases your chances of being a widow/single mother and/or an early caretaker.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 04:03 AM
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You sound like a podcast bro in a wig.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 02:41 AM
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LOL “tick tock”. Sorry, that doesn’t work on me, I don’t want children. And I don’t define my self worth based on men. And yes, I’ve already been picked. Sorry to disappoint you Pearl.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 02:34 AM
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Lol please, my mother is from a foreign country so don’t try it. She met my father in business school. They were on equal footing. I just know exactly what a fat 60 yo is up to when he goes to Thailand looking for a much younger woman, that’s all. As do most people. You can rest now, you’ve already been picked.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 01:56 AM
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Ok, you’re entitled to your opinion. Personally I look down on people using their advantages to engage in soft core prostitution/dangling a green card over the heads of those less fortunate. I’m not out to make it illegal, but I don’t have to think highly of it either.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 01:48 AM
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I think there is a big difference between thinking something should be ALLOWED and having to personally approve of it. I’m definitely comfortable judging both those groups of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 12:34 AM
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There’s a limit to this and it depends on the man. I grew up with money and the family plays a role too. Nobody is bringing an Applebee’s waitress home to mommy, no matter how pretty she is. Most men I grew up around would take a 7/10 attorney (or even a 6) over a 10/10 woman who didn’t have the right background. At least for marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 03:15 PM
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I don’t have sex on the first date, ever. Even if I have a lot of attraction towards the guy. I just don’t think it’s safe or advisable, too many diseases as well as other risk factors.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 07:24 PM
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I don’t have sex on the first date, ever. Even if I have a lot of attraction towards the guy. I just don’t think it’s safe or advisable, too many diseases as well as other risk factors.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 07:24 PM
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“Just get married” wow thank you I never thought of that
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 11:44 PM
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In reality it seems like most men do find at least some women their age attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 04:58 AM
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lol Gen Z women are not crazy about men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 03:32 AM
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You don’t have to turn everything into National Geographic you know, it’s possible for people to just like each other and enjoy being together and fucking.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 09:10 PM
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Emotional connection (which is often built on admiration and shared interests) can increase physical attraction but no, I’m sorry, I think it’s pure cope to think that just having a wallet makes up for being unattractive. She may still choose to be with you, but it’s not the same thing and never will be.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 08:50 PM
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Money doesn’t make me wet. Seriously, there’s no substitute for real attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 08:25 PM
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Girl I’ve had 70 yo men try it when I used to volunteer at the nursing home. The audacity never ends.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 03:29 AM
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I’ve done it before. It’s more about your ambition and the way you treat me. I wouldn’t marry a broke man, but I’d give one a chance to see how he turned out if he checked all the other boxes.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 07:19 PM
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It’s a good thing your internet cult does not reflect the reality of real dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 01:13 PM
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Decent looking 33yo women are still attractive to men if you touch grass. As for the good men being taken, a lot of people who marry too young end up divorced so the pool fills back up.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 03:27 AM
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Men asking me to be their girlfriend and committing to sexual exclusivity and then proceeding to date for me for usually at least a year. Don’t think that’s a crazy definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 11:43 PM
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You don’t have to be Chad to want causal sex. Plenty of men I would deem to be very below average have also sought hook ups. I’m guessing they have a low success rate, but they still want to. I also live in a major city so there’s more of a hook up culture in general. That being said, when I have decided I wanted a boyfriend, it’s never taken me more than 3 months to find one.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 05:09 PM
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lol you lack reading comprehension. Have a nice day.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 11:26 PM
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Ironic since you think that women as a collective should change to suit you. Luckily I’m very attractive to my partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 10:59 PM
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Get over yourself and realize you can only control yourself and who you choose to spend energy on.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 07:46 PM
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Any kind of fetishizing has always given me hives. Age, race, blegh. And yes liberal men can be guilty of it too but are in my experience better at treating women like actual people. And it’s not really covering up one’s intentions so much as having a different mindset. It’s “I like this girl and she’s pretty so I’ll ask her out, and I’d date her regardless of her age” vs “I only want 18-21 yos because all other women are run through expired whores”. That’s what the red pillers exude. And that’s…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 05:05 PM
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There is a difference between meeting someone and organically falling in love and actively hunting down 18-21 year olds when you’re 40. If you can’t see the difference in creep factor I can’t help you. As a young woman, I hated being fetishized by older men, but I may have been more open to a man who actually expressed interest in me as a dynamic human being.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 03:07 PM
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He won’t be attractive to them, he’ll be advantageous and there’s a big difference in long term behavior pattern between the two.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 02:57 PM
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I mean the same is true in the reverse. These fat old white men get scammed for green cards all the time and then dumped. Physical attraction matters to everyone, not just men. Even if they don’t leave, I’m sure a lot of them will cheat once their status is secure.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 02:30 PM
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I think your view is colored by the fact that you were never sexually attracted to them in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 03:02 PM
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You don’t know a single man who has gained weight, lost his hair has visible sun damage? I find that hard to believe
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 01:56 PM
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I think men forget we can only date what’s in front of us. I’m meeting a lot more guys who seem like they’ve actually gone to therapy and are done trying to sleep with everything that moves. I’ve met 3 guys in the past few months who’ve flat out told me they want to get married in the next 2 years. The cab light theory from Sex and the City holds a lot of truth. Men have to be “lit” for any chance of a successful long term relationship to work. I also think the work I’ve done on myself has paid …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 06:26 PM
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Exactly this. I’m 28 and I have a lot of great guys interested in me for marriage. When I was 23, most guys I met just wanted me for sex and bragging rights. I’m much happier with my options now. I did manage to be partnered from 21-27 and we had some good times, but ultimately he just never fully matured in the way I did. I feel more confident about my odds next time around.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 05:38 PM
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I’m Gen Z. When we’re 40, we won’t be like Boomers.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 01:23 PM
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It’s gross either way.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 01:05 AM
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Taking the time to become stable isn’t exactly what I’d call “selfish”. I’d much rather be born to a stable 38 year old vs an energetic broke 23 yo.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 09:22 PM
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Exactly. I’m 28 and my dad still says “school first”
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 09:16 PM
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This is so chronically online. My father raised me to excel academically so I’d never have to depend on a man, never to allow a man to disrespect me, and to be a good person. The assumption is that if you do those things the right person will come along naturally.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 09:16 PM
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Taking a prison sentence for someone else is absolutely fucking stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 04:18 PM
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LOL yeah, because that’s the definition of friendship. I have male friends I’d go to the ends of the earth for but because I’m not screwing them I guess I’m not “providing anything in return”
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 03:56 PM
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Women will do a lot for a man who treats us like a true friend and not just a sex toy with a timer on it. A lot of these RP guys view relationships as strictly transactional, I’m not surprised with the type of women they attract.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 02:02 PM
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I think it would good for everyone honestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 03:49 AM
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Take it up with other men, you’re the ones doing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 02:25 AM
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From who? Other men. You’re better equipped to defend yourself than a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 02:17 AM
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Never said I was a victim, but neither are most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 01:22 AM
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Women are far more likely to be sexually assaulted. You’re also leaving out all of the advantages to being a man, considering the most powerful people in the world are all male but okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 10:27 PM
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It’s literally the most obvious downside to being a woman (safety) and they still get triggered and can’t acknowledge it. Weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 10:25 PM
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Enjoy walking down the street at night as a woman bro. Men always reduce access to sex as life on easy mode. We do have other things we deal with in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 07:40 PM
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Clearly most people still want to do these things and are doing them so we can stop with this petulant whining. Live and let live.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 07:34 PM
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I don’t think that’s an entirely accurate snapshot though. How many men in public are in a reasonable age range to find attractive in the first place? I’m surrounded by Boomers so my general percentage answer would be low. If the crowd changed, my answer would also.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 10:48 PM
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It’s literally the statistical average so maybe you should broaden your social circle
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 10:44 PM
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I mean ideal? Maybe not. But a lot of people I know seem genuinely in love with their partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 04:37 PM
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Can you join a fitness class? It’s the only thing that I can stick with. I do Pilates and get hit on literally daily. Not saying you’ll have those results but it’s definitely been a noticeable difference
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 02:11 AM
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And yet these podcasts are out here telling men their paid off Toyota and job as an HR manager will have the young girls swooning. It’s ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 01:17 AM
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It’s not, it’s realistic to get married when you are actually attractive to women of childbearing age.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 01:07 AM
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Most people in their 20’s are dating other people in their 20’s. The average of marriage is around 30 and the average age gap is 2.3 years. So clearly a lot of people are actually managing to find what they are looking for. It seems chronically online to say “1 in 100” can be the gf of a dude they actually like.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 01:01 AM
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If a man is truly family oriented and has reasonable standards, what are the chances he couldn’t have found a wife to have his kids when he was 25-40?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 12:57 AM
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Dude, do you think it’s ideal for a man to be 50 when his child is in kindergarten? Can you really blame a woman for not wanting to sign her and her child up for that? Women already outlive men to boot. You don’t think it’s fair for a woman not to want to prolong her widowhood?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 12:56 AM
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It’s not about fair, it’s about realistic. Women in their 20’s and early- mid 30’s don’t want to marry and procreate with 45 yo men. They should have made more of an effort to find a woman when they were younger rather than relying on their ability to pull way younger women. Cause most men cannot do that and will end up disappointed. Their best bet at this point is to get a gold digger from the third world. The woman is delusional too. I am not saying she should get what she thinks she deserves …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 12:48 AM
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Nothing wrong with a fantasy but it’s detrimental to most people’s happiness not to realize that’s what it is
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 12:41 AM
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Have you tried like speed dating or something in person where you can show your personality? A lot of the apps suck and are full of flakey people
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 12:30 AM
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We talk about delusional women with unrealistic standards all the time in thus sub (six pack, six feet, six figures when you are an overweight single mom). I’m pointing out that the male equivalent exists also.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 12:29 AM
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That sounds really reasonable to be honest. Are you having luck?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 12:25 AM
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My point is that using celeb as examples as to what most people can do is unhelpful
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 12:21 AM
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There are plenty of delusional men. The three most common types I’ve encountered: 1) When I was last on dating apps and looking at “liked me” it was a bunch of 40+ dudes who seemed very eager to get married and have kids to pass on their genes. Womp womp. Guess your solid career can’t compensate for the fact that you’re bald and 10 years older than your target women. They thought they had “forever” not realizing that doesn’t apply to most people. The ability to produce sperm =/ the ability to be…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 12:16 AM
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It doesn’t matter. Both are possible and both are tremendous exceptions to the rule. Men may be able to produce sperm, but you still need a fertile woman willing to have your kid. Try that at 80 and see how it goes.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 12:04 AM
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Less gold digging? Lmfao I’m in my 20’s and if a guy is 10 + years older, most women I know would def consider that sugar daddy territory. It cracks me up men want much younger woman but no gold diggers.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 12:01 AM
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Can we PLEASE stop using multi millionaire celebrities as examples? NOBODY wants to have a baby with 99% of 80 yo men. Not to mention a rich female celeb could freeze her eggs or use a surrogate to have a baby at 80. That’s just silly to act like that applies to most people.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 11:58 PM
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My mother is more sexist than my father. Seriously. Asian church ladies are so weirdly self hating.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 06:16 PM
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It’s different when we’re talking about teenagers. Teenagers are very immature/inexperienced and it’s manipulative to prey on them when you’re older. I really don’t think anyone cares if a 21 yo dates a 24 yo guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 12:53 AM
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Lol that’s within the standard 3-5 year spread. Also, everyone is still very young. Call me back when you lose your hair.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 12:50 AM
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This again. We get it, you like young women for the way they look and their lack of frontal lobe development. Young women usually don’t like you. Thus age gap relationships are still pretty rare. News at 11.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 10:28 PM
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We’re talking averages and yes, yes we are. We’re now more college educated than men. If I said all men are dumb rapists you probably wouldn’t like it, but I guess when you make ridiculous generalizations about women I’m not allowed to question it or I am angry.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 06:26 PM
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Women now outpace men in many categories. Education, income etc. Try again with your bullshit that every woman is doing nothing except Only Fans.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 05:35 PM
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Again with the kids. Please leave the trailer park, most people aren’t single parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 05:28 PM
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Honestly I like nerdy engineers and always have, so that doesn’t strike me as settling. They are desirable to me and have been since I was 18. I am pushing 30 and my preferences haven’t changed. I actually have tons of options. Not feeling the squeeze at all 🤷🏻‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 05:27 PM
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Respectfully why are you single at 40 with all of those factors in place? Especially if you prioritize fatherhood.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 05:25 PM
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You totally glossed over the rest of what I said. Building lasting relationships is about more than just looks. Most men are willing and able to find attraction and fulfillment by dating and marrying women their own age. Just like how most women would “overwhelmingly” prefer to marry Prince William but somehow manage to be happy with the men they marry also. Again, mutual attraction is required. You can talk about male fantasies all you want but it’s not going to have a realistic impact on the d…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 05:20 PM
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Relationships are initiated where there is MUTUAL physical attraction, meaning women don’t want to date older men because they don’t find them attractive. Relationships last when there is EMOTIONAL connection, which is easier to maintain with a peer and someone you have things in common with. Shared values, shared vision for a future, etc. It’s not a silly fantasy, it’s literally the bedrock of Western society. That’s the recipe for the nuclear family.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 04:53 PM
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No it doesn’t, the statistics on large gaps don’t change magically once women turn 30. Sorry, but your revenge fantasy doesn’t pan out in reality. Women still have choosing power after 30.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 04:48 PM
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I’m not calling you a whack job at all, I’m refuting that point that a woman’s age defines her mental state by default. There’s a million other factors.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 04:35 PM
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And women are not attracted to much older men. Never have been. Historically women had to marry based on resources but times have changed. In modern times many people marry for love, meaningful connection and partnership. Most people are married to someone around their age, are you really saying none of those men are happy with that arrangement? Seems like more wishful thinking on your part. When I’m 50, I’m sure 30 yos will still look nice but mentally I’d have evolved past the point of wanting…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 04:29 PM
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You could say the exact same thing about the men. It’s how you handle some of those factors that make a big difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 04:21 PM
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Nah they’re still not physically attractive, but some women will date them for money. And some men will let them. It’s called a transactional relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 04:19 PM
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Women don’t really want to date much older guys. That’s normal. So men who want to date much younger women have to take the women who are willing. Hate to break it to you but a woman can start dating a way older dude whenever she feels like it. Forever. He’s not going to be like “oh no she didn’t want to date older guys as a teenager, I’d better not date her now”. You’re delulu. Men take what’s in front of them and what they can get. Also why is every woman having lots of hook ups and baby daddi…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 04:13 PM
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Society was built on this way of thinking. You’re silly if you think that none of it remains embedded in the framework.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 09:29 AM
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Confirmation bias is likely at work here. The non-emotionally wasted women are probably less vocal, content and you’re not interacting with them. I refuse to believe that the number of birthdays automatically defines a person’s mental state or character. If someone is a lovely person at 30, why would they automatically be a whack job at 41?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 08:58 AM
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Because the men who wrote the laws decided that women are mentally incompetent and have wandering uteruses and couldn’t possibly commit a crime like a man. Sexism is a double edged sword.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 08:52 AM
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It’s far more subtle. My cousin is 10 years older than me and people think we are twins quite often. I think it’s just kind of weird how people think you HAVE to look like shit in your 30’s. I think a lot of people just don’t put the work in to look good.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 08:50 AM
6

This is such a funny little revenge fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 08:47 AM
1

This is the best post I’ve read on the internet in ages. Nailed it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 08:45 AM
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Lol most of us WANT to stay within 3 years of our own age, this is hardly a punishment for us. What kind of threat is this? Also lol at a 40-50 yo guy refusing a woman 10-20 years younger because of your weird logic. As if it’s going to get better than that for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 08:37 AM
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Historically patriarchy was the norm in the West (everywhere really). Women couldn’t own property or vote and definitely did not establish the societal rules and laws. I’m not saying things are perfect for men, I’m just saying it’s not women’s fault. Men set this system up.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 08:13 AM
14

Not 30 yet but this is 100% what happened to me. 21-27. The potential never fully panned out.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 08:03 AM
10

The quality of most men who hit on us is dog shit from puberty. We’re always looking for a small percentage of decent, commitment minded men. That never really changes.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 08:01 AM
8

The way that you view life reminds me of a video game simulation. Press “a” or “b”. You do realize there are a million reasons someone could be single at any given point? Relationships sometimes end. Sometimes it’s just not the right time to meet your person yet. You pick some arbitrary number and make a ton of generalizations based on it. Chronically online take. 90% of men irl in real life don’t look at a pretty, smart, funny woman and go “oh no she’s over thirty!”
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 07:57 AM
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I’ve heard men with choices say that they’re looking for a partner who matches their energy and they’re more likely to find that in a woman their age.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 07:44 AM
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Or she’s not white. Sorry, not trying to start a thing, but it’s not uncommon in my ethnic groups.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 07:43 AM
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I have several older wealthy male friends and cousins and most of them seem to feel the same way. None of them are into the sugar baby/trophy thing but they’re all academic types. I think especially if you’re an intellectual person, dating without that connection is very hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 07:33 AM
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The last part of your comment is crucial and something that a lot of men gloss right over in this sub. 21 yos, 31 yos and 41 yos are mostly not “competing” for the same men. And contrary to the chronically online take, some men actually like dating women their own age.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 07:25 AM
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But women didn’t make any of those rules. Men still set up the system even if it also sucks for men sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 07:19 AM
6

Wild to me that anyone would disagree that kids take a tremendous amount of time and resources to raise properly
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 07:55 PM
1

All of the good guys being taken is about numbers and ratio not the inherent desirability of the woman. Decent men tend to marry around 20’s/30’s, leaving behind weirdos and commitment phobes. There are a lot of undesirable single men in their 40’s/50’s who missed the boat on finding the right woman and starting a family too. I reject them all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 07:14 PM
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Less than 2% of relationships involve a 15 year gap. Using multi millionaire celebrities as an example is one of the main dumb things about this sub and discourse in general. And even most of those guys aren’t married to women 15 years younger.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 05:09 PM
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If he’s got a face that would make a truck take a back road, it’s honestly going to be difficult for those other qualities to shine through to a lot of women. Average looking people can make up a lot of ground with their personalities, yes. Ugly people often cannot unless they find someone who looks like them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 02:04 PM
1

And you guys are dumb enough to think I’m being literal, or that I somehow have an 18 year old daughter in my 20’s. 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 04:44 AM
2

Lmao I’m not old at all and is that the only insult you people have? Sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 04:34 AM
2

Yes creepy for a fully developed adult to try to date a teenager with no life experience. I said what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 04:07 PM
6

Yup, it’s legal. Nobody denied that. Creepy and unethical, and if you tried that with my family member you’d meet the business end of a shotgun, but legal. Luckily most teenage girls get the ick easily so it’s mostly a non issue anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 02:02 AM
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I’m not attracted to men more than a few years outside of my age and I’ve always been icked out by big age gaps, so for me it’s a no. Dating a teenager as a grown man is just disturbing to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 11:35 PM
1

I don’t disagree with a lot of what you say but I will say the female preference to having a partner similar in age to them heavily skews the dating market in favor of socially accepted age-appropriate relationships. It’s a minority of women who will date guys 10+ years older. Even if they are successful.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 10:59 PM
2

I think things change but I know over 40 women who still command male attention. The thing is, they all look very good. My 48 yo aunt has a 70 yo sugar daddy. I think it varies from woman to woman and man to man honestly. That’s the problem with these generalizations. Plenty of men will never have a peak and will merely be an uglier version of themselves at 35 vs 25.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 10:48 PM
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According to the podcast bros I’m already “expired”. And I don’t think things will never change. I’m just saying the idea that women in their early 20’s get the top tier male attention is not true in my experience or the experience of many women I’ve known.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 10:28 PM
1

Would rather have a baby with my last egg than when I’m financially, emotionally and practically unstable. Easy choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 08:21 PM
3

It’s also irrelevant. Young women don’t want to bang old men, they can look all they want but they can’t touch.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 07:32 PM
2

That doesn’t mean no men are attracted to women their own age though. You can still maintain an appealing physical exterior even when practical fertility is gone. MILFs are a very real thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 07:11 PM
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100% same. MUCH better caliber of men looking at me at 28 as opposed to 20.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 06:25 PM
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Not all men want children, which I think is a big thing you’re leaving out. Dating childfree is so freeing. All men care about is if they find you attractive and if they like you. I also think men’s RMV goes down too if you want to put it that way. I don’t see too many women of childbearing age lining up to have babies with older men who will be in major physical decline while the children are still being raised. There does seem to be a percentage of men who wake up at 45 in full mid life crisis…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 06:02 PM
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All of the old guys who hit on me when I was 20 just wanted sex and and an ego boost. This argument that women hit a certain age and magically move into the “just for sex” category is utter bullshit. Most men who approach us, from puberty onwards, just want sex. That NEVER changes. We then filter from that number the smaller percentage of men who would actually make suitable partners. The end.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 05:11 PM
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Most people’s lives are not entirely subsidized, that shows a massive lack of understanding of the current economic state. And the majority of those women will still get married and have kids if they want them. I realize that doesn’t stoke your revenge fantasy but I’m sure you’ll find other ways to maintain an erection for your solo time.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 04:50 PM
1

Nobody needs to be getting married at 20. If that were my friend the only thing I’d feel is alarm. The divorce rate of people who marry that young is very high.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 04:44 PM
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Eager for conflict, check
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 04:35 PM
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So, people like you. Ironically. Vocal anti-feminists are some of the most annoying people on earth.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 02:37 PM
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Dude if you’ve never been able to attract a woman who genuinely likes you, don’t project that onto everyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 01:39 AM
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I avoid people who base their entire personality around things or people that they hate. They tend to be miserable and eager for conflict.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 01:35 AM
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All of my exes were on top of someone else within days or weeks while I cried myself to sleep for months. It’s def not all women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 05:43 PM
2

You have zero scientific evidence that asking a woman to be your gf leads to worse relationship outcomes. You just decided that based on nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 05:37 AM
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The biggest delusion with you “pill” men is you think you get to dictate who is high value and who isn’t based on whether they subscribe to a bunch of weird norms. My 6’1, six figure earning partner had no problem asking me to be his gf. Your rules are stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 01:29 AM
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And wanting a man to take charge and declare his exclusive interest in me is feminine how?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 10:34 PM
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No, it’s just because I’d rather be clear and upfront. I realize I can’t control someone else’s behavior. Obviously. But I won’t hang around for more than a little while unless he makes it official. That’s it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 06:54 PM
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I do understand this but it’s important to me for a man to ask. In my early 20’s I dated a guy who introduced me to all his friends, his family, took me on trips and then one day unceremoniously screwed someone else. “I never said we were together” was his excuse. Never again.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 04:27 PM
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I’d eat glass before I asked a man to be my boyfriend, what kind of advice is that? I want to know he’s interested in me, not capitulating.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 03:48 PM
4

I’m always floored. Looking like you negotiated your way onto earth and asking me for 1 unpaid hour a week. Bye. 😭
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 01:37 PM
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I do believe that but I think a lot of the men who say that are looking in the wrong place or ignoring some major fixable flaw. Majority of the population is overweight and still pairing off. But I do get it, though. For some people it’s just hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 02:37 AM
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Most couples are within 3 years of the same age, have similar education levels and socioeconomic class. Plenty of “average” men are dating or married. I don’t get this weird delusion that only the hottest people get to date. Ever been to Walmart?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 12:23 AM
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No because most men on dating apps are ugly, just want sex, or both. It’s a lot of options in the same way that a cheap buffet has a lot of options. Most of it you don’t actually want.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 10:15 PM
1

I’m not ageist at all, just tired of red pillers acting like men have peak choosing power at 50.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 11:32 PM
2

That’s because there are more desperate single older women going for the 50 yo, not because 50 yo men are most attractive to women as a whole. You guys always leave that out.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 03:48 PM
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Statistically most of us aren’t, actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 07:51 PM
2

Plenty of ugly men still treat women like shit. If you look at some of the photos of men in jail for beating on women and kids, you’ll see exactly what I mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 01:40 PM
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I’m not attracted to a single one of my friend’s husbands honestly. There is a difference between admiring certain qualities and all of us perceiving those qualities in the same people.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 06:08 PM
0

I only get off on rejecting arrogant pricks. Regular guys I’m always polite.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 05:36 AM
2

Accept that you will be unsuccessful more than not. And that most attractive women will be disinterested.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 12:44 AM
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Sad but true. When I was old enough my relatives talked to me about it and made me promise to never have such low self esteem that I let a man treat me that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 05:47 AM
12

Ewwwww what the fuck
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 05:37 AM
11

He was good looking when he was younger but he’s a junkie so he’s aged like a banana. He’s still got a superficial charm about him though.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 04:31 AM
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Younger generally speaking but depends on the guy. I would date either so long as they look good to me. A few years ago I would have said older definitely because someone 5 years younger would’ve been a child.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 12:39 AM
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I have an unemployed felon of an uncle (family disappointment) who literally specializes in finding women to take care of him. He lives in their houses, uses their cars, spends their money and they cook for him. I’ve seen him do it since I was a kid. He’s 60 + and still at it. The women are usually uneducated obese single moms who are happy to have a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 12:11 AM
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So stay chronically online and bitter while all manner of women live happily whether you think they should or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 05:28 PM
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118lbs, happy, committed, educated. It’s weird how much you guys want women to miserable.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 05:12 PM
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Lmao I already have a serious man who commits to me but you guys are so salty honestly. Let people live the way they want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 05:11 PM
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I’m in a relationship so we share finances. I don’t think you need to spend 200 on a date unless you are already established with someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 06:18 AM
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I’ve never been a slut and also, I don’t need your luck. Women are going to be fine, you guys are 70% of unalives because many of are lonely and unwanted. Stay safe.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 02:52 AM
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Nobody cares about chronically online weirdos. I’m upper middle class. I date educated rich men. Nobody cares. The world will keep turning, get left behind if you want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 01:53 AM
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How great for the planet that they’re weeding themselves out 🤭
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 01:42 AM
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So many chronically online takes Jesus. Most people IRL are average looking and living paycheck to paycheck and yet still manage to be in relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 12:12 AM
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30 + I’d say.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 07:29 PM
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Cheating isn’t a flaw it’s an active decision.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 06:56 PM
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I mean so will women even more so. Women in the nursing home still manage to have boyfriends.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 06:47 PM
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It’s kind of shocking how bad the hairlines get by mid 30’s. They talk about women but honestly, I’m bisexual. I’d fuck more women 35 + than men simply based on looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 06:43 PM
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You’re smoking crack if you think men don’t become less attractive over time. Go to the hair loss subreddits and see those dudes complaining about a huge drop off in female attention. Also, if you’re all chasing younger women, most of us don’t prefer older men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 06:38 PM
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If manosophere theories were actually true every 21 yo girl would be dating a 35 yo guy with muh resources but we clearly see that’s not the case
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 06:32 PM
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21? Lol I I don’t think so. When I was 21, 35 was olddddd. I’m late 20’s now and still not terribly keen on going past early 30’s.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 06:08 PM
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The manosphere talking point that no man on earth is attracted to a woman over 29 cracks me up. Can’t tell you how many successful, together older dudes I’ve met who wouldn’t bother dating a 20 something. Genuinely. In the words of my older cousin: “tf do I want with that, I’m grown.”
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 05:00 PM
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I’m in my 20’s and my peer group and I see a lot of men on dating apps who are circa 40 and older who seem really keen to get married/have kids. Mid life crisis maybe? I don’t know but many of them are looking towards younger women but we’re not looking back. Honestly a lot of them don’t look good. Heavily receding hairlines, not great skin, flabby. Some seem to have good careers but there are men in their late 20’s-mid 30’s who have good careers and look way better. I’ve always questioned the n…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 04:56 PM
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Surprise surprise white men are more likely to be content with a system that was built to cater to them in the first place. I’m shocked. I wonder also how many people actually care as much as they pretend they do online. Most people I meet in real life have bigger worries than who is in the White House.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 03:43 PM
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Thank you ❤️
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 08:19 AM
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I had a bad personal experience with one. I realize it’s unfair but I wouldn’t do it again.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 08:03 AM
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Duh.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 10:04 PM
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I don’t think rejecting a woman because she refuses to have sex with you casually/instantly would offend most women who aren’t into casual sex. If anything for me it’s “good” because I stood by principles and “losing” someone who only wanted me for sex isn’t a loss to me. Are you meeting these women online? Seems like she’d just block you and move on and vice versa
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 08:48 PM
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This such tired bullshit. Men cheat more, more leave their dying wives at very high rates and yet it’s women who can’t love. Yawn. A lot of people are selfish in today’s world but this is not a female issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 07:29 PM
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Do you think sleeping with a woman like that under false pretenses would get you a less crazy reaction when she finds out the truth though? Most of the really crazy stuff I’ve seen women do is because a man lied to them. It’s relative but I’d still say the greater cost comes from lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 06:18 PM
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Someone who spends most of their time in LTRs will still have a low body count, not just about age. You can fuck a guy once a week at 20 and rack up a much higher number than someone way older.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 04:13 PM
2

You just threw in a decade gap and hoped I wouldn’t notice huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 03:46 PM
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Women get tired of being approached exclusively for sex the same way a man may get tired of being approached exclusively because a woman wants him to buy her expensive gifts. We all know the deal but we have egos and feelings and honestly, it’s frustrating to feel like sometimes that’s all you’re good for. You should still be honest. There are women who will be okay with it and women who won’t. Lying to a woman to screw her makes you a scumbag and if she keys your car oh well.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 07:52 AM
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My experience is that men lie about wanting a relationship in order to sleep with you so whatever they pretended before the sex ends up not mattering after. Assuming that’s the game they’re running.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 05:38 AM
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The bad boy archetype to me doesn’t encompass highly educated successful men who serve the community. Like, I’m thinking Obama type. You can also do bad things and not have any charisma about you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 11:53 PM
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No. I’m pretty liberal but it turns me off sexually and it can’t be helped. I’ll vote for your rights but I won’t sleep with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 10:01 PM
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The hotter she is the more she’s gonna want. Tf is a gorgeous model tier girl settling for one dinner to sleep with some grimey old man lol. Those girls want first class travel and Birkin bags.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 08:36 PM
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You need to understand that body count correlates more to the individual girl than just her age. Ffs. I know 22 year olds that have been with way more guys than me. This rhetoric is tired.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 08:24 PM
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This is such a bad idea it’s crazy
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 07:06 PM
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Secure, but not arrogant. I love myself but I’m not in love with myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 02:16 PM
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I think what you say makes a good deal of sense. The red pillers I’m referring to are the self proclaimed Andrew Tate/Kevin Samuels fans who literally say “men have forever to find a wife if they have money”. Which maybe a wife, yes. But probably men too reach a point where they will not get their ideal wife, unless their ideal wife is a goldigger who is banging the cabana boy and waiting for them to die. I have a foreign mother but she’s educated and only 3 years younger than my dad. I’d never …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 05:43 AM
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When I think of of charisma I think of a politician. Far from a bad boy and very well put together but still confident.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 05:13 AM
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I really don’t know what to say if you think society is harsher about men’s looks vs women’s looks. Eating disorders are far more prevalent among women for example, as are cosmetic surgeries. I’m not saying there’s no pressure for men but I don’t think it’s comparable because as red pillers say, men can always use money to compensate for being ugly. Women cannot compensate for being ugly in the same way. I’m shocked to hear you say the best relationships have small age gaps. Not because I don’t …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 04:26 AM
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Congratulations on your little one 🥰
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 03:44 AM
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Any woman with a drop of self respect will run screaming from a lot of men who openly express the more extreme traits the red pill advocates. A lot of red pillers are assholes. Emotionally damaged women may tolerate that but the kind of high value woman they claim to want likely won’t. Being confident, going to the gym and washing your ass should be obvious, and those are traits that will get you better results.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 03:40 AM
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Literally this. A lot of men are full blown porn addicts who can’t get it up to regular sex and they’re worried about what their gf did in college 5 years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 03:03 AM
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They always leaving out being an ugly asshole doesn’t get you anywhere
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 11:01 PM
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You don’t seem to like women so that sets my expectations pretty low.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 11:01 PM
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The second one of course but only if he’s physically attractive too.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 07:36 PM
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It seems like less of them would complain constantly if their resources were as ultra effective as they claim
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 07:35 PM
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I like the way you think. I was a Disney girl, so I’m still learning not to flinch when I hear “transactional” but IMO it’s true but there are levels to it and it’s not always a bad thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 05:32 PM
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If you sleep with someone because you’re attracted to them and vice versa is that still transactional? That seems like the closest thing one could get to an even exchange.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 05:15 PM
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I get it. I’ve never been much of a gambler. If I were looking for money from a guy, I’d want to make sure he spent it first. That’s like escort 101, get the money upfront because once he’s not horny anymore he’s not gonna wanna pay.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 04:59 PM
1

That was a satirical post, sir.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 04:42 PM
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And preferably be attractive lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 06:44 AM
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A couple of things. I put a lot of effort into my appearance, I used to do beauty pageants. I don’t know where that one came from. Women generally put more effort into appearance than men b/c society is so critical of our looks. I believe you when you speak of what you do. But there are a lot of men on forums like this one who equate money with an insta bang. And I don’t know too many women who would think about it that way. Also thank you for reminding me why I don’t get involved with older men…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 06:41 AM
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This makes sense. I do think some women think they can parlay sex into something more but I never assume that. If a man expresses no interest in commitment, I don’t bother. Most of the time they don’t change their minds.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 05:44 AM
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Agree
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 04:35 AM
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I’m just using examples from my actual life. I’m 28 and cherub faced (look about 23) so I get a lot of older dudes hitting on me. It makes total sense to me why young women marry these wealthy men. I’m just trying to get why they’d fuck them for free when they are objectively less attractive than other options from a purely physical standpoint. I agree some of it must be subconscious. You also said something interesting, status. Bob the Boring Banker and Hank the movie producer may make the same…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 04:32 AM
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I would consider flying someone out to be firmly in sugar baby territory for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 04:26 AM
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The average 20 yo rugby player will stick his meat in a warm grapefruit. Also, of course there are young women who date older men for MONEY. Again, he has to spend the money or it’s pointless that he has it. He’s not getting a free hook up.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 04:22 AM
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Girlie I totally understand if he is paying bills there is and always will be a market for that. But if he’s not…why?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 03:31 AM
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I didn’t say they were. I also have poor cousins who still wouldn’t take that deal though. Including one who is a literal sex worker, and she’d def want more than just one dinner.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 02:57 AM
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I’m admittedly less impressed by this as I grew up with plenty of money. Going to a nice restaurant isn’t worth banging someone I’m not attracted to. It may be more effective on someone who’s never had access to that before.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 02:32 AM
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So with a celebrity I totally buy this. People get star struck and all judgment goes out the window. Plus celebs tend to be good looking. I’d probably sleep with my fav celeb crush just for the experience of it, even knowing nothing would come of it. With Bob the bank manager, it makes a lot less sense to me. He’s unattractive. Therefore I’d want a guaranteed tangible return.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 02:30 AM
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I do think money makes it easier to look good but you can’t totally manufacture attraction. A big part of it has to be organic at least for me. I have a hot stable boy fantasy actually lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 02:12 AM
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Oh well yes of course, when you date/fall in love with someone they become more attractive. My partner was a 6 to me when we met and now he’s an 8. I’m speaking of casual sex though. Causal sex is totally shallow. For that, if I were going to do it, I’d compartmentalize.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 01:58 AM
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I am basing it on the example I used in my post. Perhaps I am abnormal but to me the “categories” are separate. Physical attraction is the initial hurdle if you will and if I can’t jump over it…no dice.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 01:54 AM
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Speaking honestly no amount of money makes a 50 + yo man attractive to a teenager. I sort of get why it may have better odds of working IF she thinks there’s a realistic shot at a relationship forming.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 01:46 AM
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Beauty is subjective but yes typically people don’t seriously date people far less attractive than themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 01:41 AM
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Of course who doesn’t want money but these guys are not offering money. They are relying on the money making them more attractive without actually offering money. If I am considering having causal sex, I want to be insanely attracted to him. I don’t care where he lives, we can do it at my place. Honest answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 01:37 AM
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You can’t buy attraction though. If they want to trade money for sex, there’s a whole profession based on that. I guess I don’t get why they don’t just do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 01:28 AM
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If she can get more than a 3, why would she take a 3? People always take the best available option. Also, looks are VERY subjective. She may be a 3 to you, but if someone else thinks she is a 6, she will be treated like one by him.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 01:19 AM
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This doesn’t remotely surprise me.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 12:19 AM
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I don’t drink much. I’ve been uninvited on dates by guys in the past when they realize I won’t go to a bar with them as a first date. It seems their entire strategy relies on impaired judgment.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 12:09 AM
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A huge part of the incel culture is a bunch of fat/short/balding dudes complaining hot sorority girls don’t want them. What are you on about? Ugly middle aged men chase pretty young women, fat people chase fit people. Whether it’s realistic or not doesn’t stop people trying to get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 12:01 AM
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Settling is a mindset. Not ending up with the person you’d create for yourself in a AI video game and feeling like you settled are two very different things. Most of us have to compromise somewhere and that’s okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 02:53 PM
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I made a mistake. I’m not defending it. I was 21, lesson learned.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 02:32 PM
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What an extreme and ridiculous example. A lot of 1950’s housewives were miserable and popping amphetamines to get through the day so no, not everyone finds true life fulfillment being stuck at home.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 02:05 PM
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Forgoing labels is what Gen Z does. Doesn’t mean we’re going to end up living in a trad con country.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 01:59 PM
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I’m just pointing out a fact about industry being discussed. Pretty weird you had to make it a contest.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 01:58 PM
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A refreshing lack of hypocrisy for once on this sub. That’s nice. I actually don’t have a problem with men who want traditional “clean” women so long as they practice what they preach.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 05:13 AM
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Porn stars are unaliving themselves. It’s a very toxic industry.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 05:09 AM
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Most women I I know who are single around 30 have spent most of their time getting degrees and in LTRs that didn’t work out. I’m so tired of the washed up party girl narrative. That’s a subset of women, not all.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 05:05 AM
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Plenty of women don’t care. I make more than my partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 01:56 AM
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Nobody is loved unconditionally except children by their parents. Women aren’t loved unless we look a certain way and provide sex. That’s life.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 11:04 PM
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Oh no, not wanting to spend your life raising children by yourself, which is one of the main reasons to avoid being a single mother!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 07:38 PM
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Influencers influencing who? Women don’t follow the mentality of people like Andrew Tate and never will and women control the dating market. A handful of fringe ultra conservative/misogynist leaning men aren’t going to change things. Society always swings on pendulums but I doubt the world those men want will ever exist again.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 07:37 PM
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Sir the Korean women are fed up with the Korean men disrespecting them and putting cameras in their toilets.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 05:19 PM
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Yes and a lot of women are rage quitting too. They don’t want to raise kids alone because their husband works 400 hour weeks.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 05:17 PM
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This simply isn’t true for everyone. Plenty of old people alone in the nursing home. Not having kids doesn’t mean you have nobody.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 05:16 PM
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Men don’t know about the everything shower 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 04:32 PM
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My one and only casual sex encounter was post break up heartbreak. He was the ugliest guy I’ve ever slept with. Definitely hall of shame moment.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 04:19 PM
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These guys read all of these books and watch all of these podcasts but the truth is so much of whether a woman sleeps with you is already made up before she ever lays eyes on you. Like 80% of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 04:17 PM
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I grew up with money. Never saw anyone marry “out” of the socioeconomic/education bubble. The idea that rich men are all marrying 20 yo checkout cashiers has always rang of bullshit to me. Men DO care about a woman’s educational background. Not so much her earning power perhaps but whether or not she “fits” in his world and would be a respectable mother for his children. Similarly, I’ve seen women marry decently earning guys instead of loaded old farts more often than not.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 03:50 AM
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I agree but red pillers always say nothing matters but a man’s resources.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 03:11 AM
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Money matters up to a point. But if she’s not genuinely attracted to you, you’re dealing with straight up goldiggers and those relationships are going to have problems because they’re built on sand. I would much rather have a man making 100k that I love to death and want to jump every night than a guy making 400k who I don’t want touching me. But hey, I’m a romantic.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 02:56 AM
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Do what you want. I don’t think women will care.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 02:53 AM
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Value and attraction are very subjective. While there are some universals, this is one of the big issues with trying to assign people a “rating”. Red pill men think that any man with a good salary is automatically high value and I know tons of women who disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 02:51 AM
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I went on a date with a guy who was a very obvious subscriber to red pill ideology and he was 100% autistic. Like socially oblivious in a big way.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 02:47 AM
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It means that it’s not a perfect paradise in relationships when you taken women out of the equation. What’s more likely? Every woman alive sucks or your perspective is skewed based on choices you’ve made?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 02:44 AM
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Gay men cheat more than any other demographic and have the highest rate of STDs. But ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 02:32 AM
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A lot of women wish they were gay too.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 11:29 PM
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That is a you issue and not an issue with every woman on the planet.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 09:07 PM
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I think you have to understand that value is subjective and water seeks its own level.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 08:54 PM
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Nobody is trying to make men look bad, I was just pointing that out since it was the topic at hand. Yes, there are women looking for a wallet. However I’d contend at that age, it’s probably less common because those women are established already, own their homes, have their pensions or their dead husband’s pensions. They’re less likely to want to be taken care of. Many Boomer + men have no idea how to take care of themselves, they’ve always had a woman for that. Women outlive men and I think tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 08:38 PM
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Women do not magically expire at 30. I know several 30 something year old women who still have sugar daddies. In fact, the higher up you go in income and education, the later both men and women marry. Trailer park people or Mormons marry at 22. Plenty of beautiful, educated, great women have to wait until around 30 to find a husband because men will simply not settle down prior to that point. Either because they want to play the field or their focused on their education/career. I speak from expe…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 08:16 PM
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I don’t know where you got this notion that most women are okay sharing their men. We’re not. Also…plenty of losers living in mommy’s basement are still commitment phobic so I don’t think it has anything to do with value.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 07:40 PM
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A lot of men of the older generation are looking for a nurse/housekeeper and I think a lot of older divorced/widowed women are done with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 07:37 PM
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And has a 10/10 gf who lets them bang her 10/10 sister every Tuesday.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 11:41 PM
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I can’t believe this is shocking to people. Gives me a chuckle when red pillers promote finding much younger woman who only want men for their resources. If you’re okay with her banging the cabana boy when you’re at work, sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 09:54 PM
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It leads to higher mortality rates.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 08:07 PM
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Housing, childcare, education.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 07:56 PM
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Because they don’t have birth control or resources. What kind of argument is that? They also have diseases we eradicated 50 + years ago. We are talking about developed countries, not the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 07:55 PM
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Lmao not by a long shot but you enjoy that delusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 07:53 PM
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Even if you make it affordable the universal culture has shifted. People have realized there’s more to life than raising 9 kids. Still, more people would consider it if it weren’t bankrupting.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 06:16 PM
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I only sleep with one man. Sorry. And no, most men don’t have to be good for the world to spin. They just have to labor for the rich. Nothing to do with character or anything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 06:08 PM
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In some ways but my grandfather was a mailman and supported a wife and four children. He owned his house and my grandma rarely worked. Good luck with that now.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 03:36 PM
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Until we address the cost of living the rest of this is irrelevant. That’s the main issue and affects almost everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 03:26 PM
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Funny because most of us feel that way about men too
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 03:24 PM
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Unfortunately we all become damaged by life. I think it’s how we handle that damage that makes the difference. Damage doesn’t have to become baggage, it can become wisdom. When I was 20 I dated the guy you described. Cheated many times, lied, hit me a few times. But I went to therapy. Took some time to work on myself, got better self esteem and better at spotting manipulation tactics. And it’s never happened again.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 05:11 PM
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83 year old men are not having relationships with 29 year old women. Some of them are paying 29 yo women for sex. A woman can also pay a man for sex and companionship. You’re not special or desirable because you can pay for a service. You don’t sound 35. About 14 maybe.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 03:02 PM
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Once again, you’re not Al Pacino. 99% of you aren’t. The extreme exception does not disprove the rule. Are you slow?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 03:01 PM
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Sure bro, every red piller on the internet has a 22 yo girlfriend even though sub 10% of relationships involve a 15 year age gap. Also, sugar babies aren’t girlfriends. Different category.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 02:35 PM
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They have to promise them something. “Your time will come in your 30’s—you’ll be able to date hot 20 yos, women your age will die alone and you’ll have the last laugh on women who rejected you” is the standard revenge fantasy. Most women don’t like much older men. It’s gonna be a rude awakening. Why do you think these dudes end up becoming passport bros? It doesn’t work here.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 02:32 PM
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You guys always use celebrity males as examples. 1) 99% of you are not Al Pacino. Nobody wants to have a baby with an 80 yo man. Or even a 50 yo man. Men become less physically attractive over time, period. You can’t make a baby without a woman of child bearing age. And she’s not gonna want to have your kid when you’re in Shady Pines. It’s also not even healthy for a child to have a father that old. Kid is gonna be schizophrenic. Science says sperm ages too. 2) You do realize old ladies in the n…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 02:22 PM
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If you get a sugar baby, which is largely the same thing, nobody goes to jail.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 01:22 AM
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Most sociopaths are male. Men are several times more likely to leave their sick/dying wife than women are to leave their sick/dying husband but sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 12:24 AM
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I think a man wrote this
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 12:23 AM
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Commitment minded men commit and wannabe fuck boys don’t and it has way less to do with how “hot” the woman is than you want to think
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 12:17 AM
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Because much of straight porn is terrible from a woman’s perspective. And male porn actors are often extremely ugly. Not even average looking, hideous.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 12:09 AM
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It’s true that black men pull it off way better. As to your points, I think the thing about being chronically online with these conversations is it distorts the view. If you just walk outside, most couples are pretty average/equivalent.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 11:13 PM
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So date someone 2-5 years younger than you. Problem solved right?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 11:01 PM
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If you are an attractive 20 something you should not be struggling to date 20 something women. There are some women who will always be goldigging and you will not get them, but that leaves plenty left. I genuinely don’t even know any good looking guys in their 20’s who can’t find girlfriends.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 11:00 PM
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Nobody actually considers an 18 year old a man. And most girls that young do not want to date men who are not in their bubble. High school is a bubble. College is a bubble. Nobody even gives af about what you make until you’re done with college. The idea that you’re “missing the boat” is ridiculous. I refuse to believe at 24 you can’t date a 23-24 year old woman unless something else is wrong with you. And no, the good ones are not gone at 27.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 10:55 PM
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We’re speaking about adults I assumed. Of course when you’re child or teenager it’s totally different. Also, plenty of women date dudes their same age/same education/same income level. Not everyone is dating “up”, or most people wouldn’t be marrying the opposite sex version of themselves. Most people are basic and marry someone basic. In my 20’s and have no friends who prefer bald men but good for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 10:51 PM
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I agree, but I think the money/age is where men get really confident. “Oh if I make 100k a year at 40 I can date a 9/10 21 yo.” I would contend…probably not. You WILL probably be more attractive to women 35-45 but that is not enough money to play Di Caprio and that seems to be the fantasy some guys have.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 10:48 PM
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2 years is a minimal difference and not enough time to become fully “established” as you mentioned. No need to be so emotional. Also, there are lots of women 2 years younger than you and if none want to date or sleep with you, it’s likely another issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 10:40 PM
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I don’t disagree with the notion that with diminishing attractiveness comes diminishing attention but that is a) true of both genders and b) people age differently. I also think 30 (the oft used magic number) is way too young for this to be a real issue yet. Also a bit of selection bias because the happy thriving women are not in the sub. I have an aunt who looks kind of like Sofia Vegara and she had a 70 year old sugar daddy when she was 50 something. Happy people are quieter. I also agree that…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 10:28 PM
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I think a lot of men vastly underestimate the amount of success you really need to compensate for being ugly and much older than your target mate. A paid off Toyota Camry isn’t gonna do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 10:10 PM
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Statistically most women are dating men 2 years older than them. The idea that none of them are fucking you because you’re not old enough is likely flawed.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 10:06 PM
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The wall as red pillers describe it is a revenge fantasy. A lot of men clearly resent the power and advantages they feel women have in the dating market and long for the day women will lose that power and men will gain it. The reality is everyone ages differently, giant age gaps are not the norm, and every woman with a pulse will still have at least some options for a partner. There’s nuance in all of this that often gets ignored in favor of men being able to say “enjoy your cats”
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 10:04 PM
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You are correct. Only emotionally damaged women will tolerate you being an asshole past a certain point. In fact I think a big part of the reason so many red pilllers complain about crazy/damaged women is because they are the only ones who will put up with the more extreme of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 06:19 PM
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Lol nope, they both suck not for what they want but for the way they go about trying to get it. But I can tell you’re not in a position to grasp that. Enjoy your lesbian porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 01:14 AM
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I’m not a lesbian, but queer women are mad because these women present themselves as queer but are actually just bait for their straight boyfriends. It’s tiring and dishonest. How would you like it if you matched with a cute girl and she then told you she wanted you to fuck her boyfriend?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 01:07 AM
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I don’t think this is entirely fair. People can’t control what happens to them as children and some people genuinely DO years of work to be okay. And not just to be okay but to help others too.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 12:51 AM
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I was told by several older conservative women in my family to ignore physical attraction when seeking a mate. I’m glad I stopped taking that advice at 19.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 11:45 PM
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Bisexual and no not really. As someone already said, a lot of women who say they’re bi are actually straight and hunting for a threesome on behalf of their porn addict boyfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 10:18 PM
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I don’t resent men who respect women sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 04:42 PM
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Do you know that you can’t discount the rule just because there’s an exception? Do you know? Some does not equal “many” it it equals “some.” Just like “some” of the hot young women you’re sleeping with are actually porn stars combined with your right hand.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 02:37 PM
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Look at the average number of lifetime sexual partners. It doesn’t support your theory of “lots”.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 02:34 PM
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I don’t think that most men are sleeping with multiple women a week and I don’t think that most women want to bang some dude 10 + years older than them so yeah, that math is not mathing that ALL of you are basically mini Di Caprios. Some of you are obviously e-stating to impress your buddies.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 02:23 PM
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Or most of you are full of shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 02:21 PM
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You and every other red piller all had the same week apparently
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 02:15 PM
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I’ve never heard anyone say life is fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 12:47 PM
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What kind of tangent is that? This applies to both men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 05:45 AM
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Women get domestically abused because we’re dumb? Lol point proven.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 02:00 AM
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But women are onto it now and will avoid many of you. Hooray for us.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 12:48 AM
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Most people want to have kids with someone who looks like them and thinks like them. Exceptions of course apply but I don’t think foreign spouses will ever the the norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 12:43 AM
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A lot of self proclaimed red pill men strike me as terrible people honestly so I’d never want to be in that camp.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 10:47 PM
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There’s a difference between sitting on your unwashed ass and expecting hot women to fall from the sky and turning into a professional bullshitter who will scare away any woman with common sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 08:35 PM
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The issue is that all of the extreme “pills” reduce wildly varied individuals to crude parts in a math equation. Woman young hot, man rich, unga unga. You’d think nobody else existed and that most people weren’t average af and in committed relationships with their opposite sex equivalent. A lot of the decent things TRP says are just common sense (be as successful as you can be, shower) but there’s also a lot of bias/revenge fantasies towards women and general narcissistic garbage.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 05:42 PM
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Asking lots of personal questions about you, trying to keep the conversation going, establish common interests “oh me too!”
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 05:37 PM
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Nobody is denying the power of attraction but it seems like a lot of wannabe player men completely ignore personal compatibility in favor of going solely after looks. Try swimming in deeper water. Find women who you have shared interests with.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 01:25 AM
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100% this.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 09:16 PM
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I imagine being in a fulfilling relationship is the ideal for most women. In lieu of that, I’d much rather be single than in a bad one. A lot of the “happier single” women are most likely comparing it to the alternative of being with lazy assholes.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 08:39 PM
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No. One in the at least a hundred men who’ve approached me was attractive to me (imo it’s usually creepy uncle types who walk up to you on the street…”hey sweet thing”) and I still said no because I’m just not comfortable meeting people that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 04:19 AM
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You’re so ignorant it’s incredible.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 08:47 PM
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There are different levels of predators and 99%? Bullshit. We wouldn’t live in the world we do if that stat were remotely true.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 08:22 PM
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There’s a lot to unpack there but statistics don’t support your argument that most women don’t care about education or career. Women are now more college educated than men are. Maybe you’re looking in the wrong places. None of my male friends have problems finding decent women. Also, I’ve been in foster care. So no, not a perfect life and many of my classmates didn’t have one either. They were hardworking and smart and got scholarships.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 07:37 PM
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We’re talking about things found universally attractive, basic hygiene is brought up and you somehow still have to make it contentious. Bye.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 07:01 PM
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Hypocrisy too? I’m sure you’ll attract someone of great character.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 05:39 PM
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You can’t whine about sluts and also be one yourself. And yes, men can be sluts.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 05:23 PM
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Imagine for a moment that women are individual people who don’t care what every man on the planet thinks
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 04:53 PM
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You should try not being so emotional.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 04:47 PM
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No, actually. Most men are not tall, handsome or remarkably successful so that would be a silly standard to use. Most people are average.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 04:43 PM
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I don’t think you can say “most women” when you guys specifically focus on the trashiest examples you can find. My point is many people who value education/career don’t behave that way. You don’t have to be rich. There’s nothing wrong with being privileged and or raised properly either.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 04:36 PM
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Yes that woman represents the average woman. It’s not rage bait at all. And men don’t hide the fat chicks they sleep with or anything because they’re not shallow and don’t care about other people’s opinions.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 04:30 PM
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Being in shape is great but taking a shower is a lot easier so it’s not really a fair comparison.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 04:27 PM
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You cannot possibly know everything about a complete stranger and there is a difference between practical caution and automatically assuming the worst because of gender bias. Statistics on the average number of sexual partners do not support that theory that every woman is “ran through”.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 04:18 PM
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Podcast bros say that shit all the time. “If you’re successful in your 30’s you can have your pick of 20’s women” and yet most 20’s women are dating…20’s men. Oops.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 04:16 PM
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Literally the amount of men in the 20’s age range with personal hygiene issues is staggering. Please just wash your ass. That’s a big start.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 11:26 PM
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Ok great not everyone cares lol. He is 1 dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 11:13 PM
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Nope. I’m quite pretty by conventional standards and even the 5s wanted to try their luck at hook ups. They were unsuccessful but aren’t wiling to admit that for a little while. Men don’t need to be hot to be confident and or delusional. Also, I live in New York, and the hook up culture is huge here. It is what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 11:08 PM
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Yes of course he can bang lots of women, but that doesn’t make him desirable to every woman on the planet. And they don’t desire him…they desire his fame. Dating him makes you famous. It’s a trade, end of.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 10:01 PM
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I am a child of a very bad divorce so I get the apprehension. But it’s still something that’s important to me. And if people want kids, it def makes sense to marry first.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 09:58 PM
3

Unfortunately I become emotionally attached so casual is off the table for me, but I hear ya
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 06:54 PM
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That’s a horrible philosophy and says more about you than every woman on the planet. I could just assume all men are cheating liars but that’s no way to live.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 06:53 PM
1

Not saying it never happens but this is not the normal age gap statistically. Statistically it’s less than 3 years. 8 years is a lot. I wouldn’t date a 35 yo.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 05:37 PM
1

I’m sorry I totally agree men’s attractiveness does not dwindle. The things that happen to the hairline and waist line for a lot of men…not pretty.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 05:34 PM
3

He would be a horrible prospect for any woman who wanted a real relationship though. He’s clearly emotionally unavailable. Everything you lose is not a loss.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 05:32 PM
1

I agree with you. If there is a wall it’s at least 10 years after than most of them want to admit. And men have one too.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 05:29 PM
3

They act like having a decent job in your 30’s automatically guarantees you a 22 yo and I’ve just never observed that to be true.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 05:27 PM
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I don’t think you realize we can only lower our standards so far or you’ll blame us for that too. Women get made fun of for dating “losers”. IMO non negotiable standards and “nice to haves” should be different. Non negotiable: employable, loyal, kind, not hideous, not a bigot, taller than me in heels (I’m the size of a child so that’s easy)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 05:14 PM
28

I’d like us all to remember each other’s humanity a little more. Men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 05:11 PM
12

Agree that a lot of people figure “why not shoot my shot”. I don’t think they imagine it’s gonna work. The 40+ dudes who hit on me as a 20 something probably know the answer is gonna be no, but in their mind it’s no risk for potential reward.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 05:11 PM
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Lol girl I’m on my second advanced degree. I haven’t seen the inside of a nightclub since my 21st birthday when my friends dragged me to one. There are so many of us nerdy late bloomers out here.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 05:06 PM
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I hear this but haven’t seen it so much. I wonder if this has to do with class/education level. I went to an Ivy (not trying to brag) and most of the women I knew were pretty serious about finding Mr Right from graduation and got married at like 25-27. If they did any partying it was before graduation. Probably a lot to do with familial expectation too.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 05:04 PM
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People have no money, that’s a big part of it. The old way of owning a house, having a spouse and 2.5 kids by 30 is dead. It takes 5-10 years more to reach the same milestones our Boomer and Gen X parents did and it’s weird it’s not being talked about more as far as why people are delaying.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 01:04 PM
4

I never wanted unattached fun. I wanted a boyfriend/future husband and I met guy after guy who just wanted sex. I wasn’t able to find a guy to have a serious relationship with until I was nearly 24. I imagine I’m not the only one.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 12:50 PM
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The flaw in this is that you act like it’s completely up to us. I’ve been ready to get married or at least engaged since I was 22. Good luck finding a man on board with that. Women’s primary window for finding a guy who actually wants to marry them is 26-35, not 18-25. I think the physical decline of women is exaggerated also, or maybe it’s just cause I’m asian, but I don’t see women in their early 30’s looking too different from their 23 year old selves.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 12:24 PM
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This is such a common scenario and yet the explanation is always “she wasted her hot years being a huge whore”. Like there’s no other possibility and relationships just don’t sometimes end.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 11:31 AM
1

I think the reality is that very desirable people often operate on a curve that is different than the average person. A stunning 27 year old woman is not going to magically run out of options the day she turns 30. In my social class (upper middle class academic snobs) many men won’t consider marriage before 30, so many of the women have to wait on them anyway and they usually fill that time attaining higher education. I’m gong to be honest and say that if you’re closer to the 40 end of the spect…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 11:14 AM
1

100% this. I’ve never been impressed by money if it’s trashy money. My idea of high value is an academic or a scholar who respects himself and others. And that’s who I found lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 11:54 PM
1

A lot of it is honestly character for me. People don’t have the values they once did. I’m tired of meeting people with no moral code or principles.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 11:41 PM
3

A lot of people’s delusion is what’s keeping them from happiness far more than the opposite sex
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 11:27 PM
8

I’m literally just quoting what men say on Reddit and any podcast comment section. No projection needed.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 09:30 PM
1

I don’t believe in casual sex and I don’t date men who make collecting STDs their life goal
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 04:15 PM
0

Yup
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 04:14 PM
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Probably the same reason a lot of you hate women and think we’re all whores, goldiggers, overgrown children who expire at 23, and yet dedicate all of your free time to trying to screw us without commitment all while claiming you want a traditional society. More stupid questions at 11.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 04:09 PM
7

I’m convinced a lot of this has to do with chemicals in food and the environment
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 01:10 AM
0

Maybe percentage wise but we have wildly different types, values etc. I don’t like my friend’s husbands for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 10:47 PM
2

This. I have never given my number to a random man on the street and never would. I feel like I was born too late to experience meeting people the natural way.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 09:18 PM
1

Okay? Nobody is trying to control you. Personally I approve of low value men weeding themselves out.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 05:08 AM
1

When you said “women shame” I think it’s more of a fact that a lot of us don’t want to date/and or be with porn addicts. If you want to be porn addicts who stays away from women, go ahead.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 05:05 AM
2

Porn has been scientifically proven to be unhealthy if too much of it is consumed. I think that’s really the bigger issue here.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 05:03 AM
2

Many women are not interested in casual sex and men are not divided into black and white categories that way. Get off the internet and touch grass.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 03:47 AM
0

Down to fuck too soon though and you guys call us sluts. We can’t win.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 03:26 AM
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There’s plenty of fat, broke, ugly men who still expect their 20 yo Victoria’s Secret model bang maid to drop from the sky, dude. It’s never been just women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 03:12 AM
1

Lol I think at some point you take what you can get
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 08:32 PM
1

They’re doing it in the nursing home. And nobody there is attractive. Try again.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 07:05 PM
1

No it doesn’t. Who is having sex WITH? There’s lots of banging going on in the trailer park because there’s nothing else to do there.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 05:10 PM
1

People suck in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 04:36 AM
11

Trash attracts trash. No woman with her life together wants someone’s baby daddy. Gross.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 07:18 PM
2

That’s true. Racial fetishizing is gross across the board. I’m mixed and it’s been a lifelong thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 11:29 PM
0

You’re ignoring the fact that women cannot orgasm with any partner. That may have something to do with it no? And going home with the wrong man means that we could die or at least be shamed as a whore.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 06:02 PM
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I totally disagree that your average woman refers to men in the same manner or speaks to men in the same manner. Sweet and caring refer to personality traits and don’t contribute to objectification.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 05:55 PM
4

This is so true
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 04:47 PM
3

I think the way that many men speak about women largely contributes to this. Listen to the language carefully and you have a lot of your answer. Plenty of dudes speak about women like we’re real life porn categories.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 04:46 PM
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That honestly reads like a troll profile. Yikes
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 10:47 PM
0

Lmfao the mental gymnastics are really jumping today. Yes they are teenagers.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 07:35 PM
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Righttttt. All men were slaves for as long as all women were legally property. Do try taking a history class at the collegiate or graduate level at least once in your life. Good day.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 04:02 PM
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As long as there are people alive and not even elderly when policies were in place, you can’t say “distant past” so no the point doesn’t remain. Martial rape wasn’t federally outlawed until 1993. I wasn’t even born.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 03:55 PM
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My mother married my father, who is a millionaire, when she was 33 and he was 35. I’m sorry that doesn’t rock with your fantasy, but she was beautiful, intelligent and he didn’t want to marry a bimbo with nothing going for her. Not everyone is the same. Ps: that goldigger some of the old guys marry will cheat on them with the cabana boy too since you’re worried about cheating. Large age gap relationships also end in divorce more often than those with smaller gaps.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 03:35 PM
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Yes it is, but you’re chronically online and driven by a need to believe that women have a set expiration date so you can feel automatically superior for being a man. The reality is, for every average or “undesirable” woman, there are 3 men worse off than her who will gladly take her. Men are lonelier than women, look it up. We have more options than you all want to admit.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 03:29 PM
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You’re deranged. Sexual assault includes rape you psycho.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 03:25 PM
11

I realize this is taboo for a lot of men but therapy helped me a lot to avoid falling into bitter thought patterns when things didn’t go my way repeatedly. It doesn’t solve anything. Take the lesson, leave the pain.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 04:19 AM
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Hahaha it doesn’t end at 30. An average woman will always have more options than an average man dating wise. But this question is about more than just dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 04:11 AM
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You say that because you’ve never had to live without it. I guarantee you’d notice if you didn’t have it. “Is he going to hurt me” is a thought every woman has, not infrequently at all. Also lol at “tossup” when women were literally property for hundreds of years.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 04:09 AM
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I agree with some of what you say but “distant past” is pushing it, women couldn’t even have our own bank accounts in the US until the 1970’s. My parents are older than those laws.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 04:08 AM
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Women can’t be independent as easily because we’re physically vulnerable. Weaker animals stay with the herd.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 04:01 AM
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It’s really not, 1 in 3 women will be sexually assaulted in their lifetime
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 04:00 AM
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Mixed race (half black) and yes it does
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 03:58 AM
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I agree with this
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 03:53 AM
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I think perhaps you’re right but I would say this is average people. It doesn’t get better than being a rich white man in the West. The highest rung on the ladder is still reserved for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 03:51 AM
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You’re forgetting the fact that women are the physically weaker sex which opens us up to a lot of problems. It’s a huge issue. IMO.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 03:49 AM
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Early 30’s and mid 20’s is the most common age gap I see and I think that it makes the most sense. You aren’t in crazy different life stages and the serious physical decline hasn’t started yet (ideally).
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 03:02 AM
7

Okay 👍 no one is damning men for having healthy relationships with people who can rent cars and have their own jobs, housing etc. You of course can hit on anyone over 18, but don’t be surprised when the reaction is “ew.”
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 01:43 AM
3

As an 18 year old with no dating experience yes, 3 years. I was supposed to be dating college guys and I did date college guys, and I dated people at a similar maturity level on a level playing field. I’m grateful to my parents for protecting my emotional well being over the sexual whims of some random dude. Maybe one day if you have a daughter you’ll understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 01:32 AM
3

I’m not out here making anyone do anything, but I’m glad I had people to educate me about male predatory warning signs, and I’ll continue to pass on that knowledge.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 01:26 AM
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I don’t care about shaming you, I care about women. Hope that helps.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 01:22 AM
7

I’m convinced a good chunk of red pill conquests are porn scenarios they watched. There was a post on Twitter about a guy bragging about having a bunch of 20 yos on a boat and it turned out they were all sex workers. Which fine, but don’t flex like they really like you dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 01:06 AM
2

Sure thing bud. Congratulations on your 35th birthday.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 12:56 AM
4

Lmfao you guys are so predictably racially ill informed on top of everything else. Classic. Bonus points: I’m mixed race.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 12:35 AM
0

A grown ass man trying to date a literal teenager is a predator. You will not change my mind. Good day.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 12:24 AM
1

I didn’t mirror your energy and was not trying to insult you. I merely stated “man hating” is not the only reason to want to date a man closer to your age. And I also, genuinely, could not give a shit if a man like you didn’t see my profile. Good.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 12:12 AM
2

Exactly this! They try to go lower to avoid commitment but what is in that for me? Walking red flag IMO. Unlikely to change. Less attractive. Pass.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 12:01 AM
2

I would consider some of the women…but all the men look very unappealing to me. Very badly dressed/dorky. Maybe another department.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 11:54 PM
1

Not a fair comparison. Not wanting a predator dating your daughter is fair. Sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 11:40 PM
2

Are there more people TRYING to have lots of casual sex? Yes. Is it working? Debatable. Women complain most men on dating apps just want sex and men complain they’re not getting any/enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 11:37 PM
3

Aww that’s cute
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 11:25 PM
4

That time seems to have gone. Most of the tenured professors are old enough to be my dad and I’m 28.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 11:23 PM
2

My point is if father’s want what is best for their daughters we’re inclined to listen to them. That would explain a lot of young women’s hesitation to date way older
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 11:22 PM
4

Thank you for this perspective. Most of the older men who hit on me seem just as unwilling to commit as the younger ones funnily enough so I see very little value in dating past early 30’s. Maybe if they were presenting themselves as much better partners, I may consider it more but the ones I’m seeing it’s basically the same guy as the 27 yo with less hair.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 10:50 PM
2

I’m not sure that would play out how you’re thinking. If we’re talking just photos, younger people across the board would probably have an advantage.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 10:46 PM
4

I don’t hate men but I don’t find men 35 + attractive yet and I’m in my late 20’s.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 10:39 PM
4

I think it comes from observation. People don’t say “daddy issues” for no reason. Not to mention if I were 18 and came home with anyone over 21, my father would have wrapped him around a pole. And he’s no feminist, just someone who knows how men think.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 10:20 PM
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I think relationships that form with age as an afterthought tend to work a lot better vs the dudes who actively target way younger women. It’s a different vibe in my opinion. More…organic.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 10:15 PM
1

Lol I’m in grad school and I’ve heard this rumor but all of my professors are very old men (60+) and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 10:13 PM
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I’ve also wondered this. I keep hearing the RP men bragging about getting women in the 18-25 age range but don’t see any girls clamoring for men 30-35 +. The one girl I knew with an “older” bf when she was in college was like 26, when she was 21 and we all thought she was brave for that lol. Age gaps are a bigger deal the younger you are. I got aggressively hit on by a 37 yo at 19 and was totally disgusted because our age gap was my entire lifespan. It seems like that was the reaction of most of…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 10:07 PM
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