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Because all their coworkers are similarly minded people who have an equal amount of social ineptitude, particularly with women.
/r/AllPillDebate23/09/23 08:49 PM
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Nah
/r/AllPillDebate20/09/23 11:00 PM
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Huh? I was asking for a link to a real source, not random inferences you’ve drawn from things you’ve read. Single and divorced are not really the same thing and they aren’t typically lumped into the same categories in studies concerning this stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/23 12:48 AM
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Those links are not even direct links to studies. There’s no L. Bisexuals experience the highest rates of abuse according to those sources, almost 20% more than lesbians, and 90% of bisexuals are with men (that is a real statistic).
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 11:02 PM
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What data?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 11:02 PM
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Also, you didn’t even read your own bullshit sources. Lolol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 09:59 PM
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I’m a researcher and I am a lesbian. There is almost no existing research that addresses lesbian relationships and dynamics in isolation without women who have been with men, bisexuals, or gay men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 09:54 PM
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A miserable marriage is better than being single for men. Fixed it for u
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 09:43 PM
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Divorce doesn’t have anything to do with abuse LOL Gay men were mixed in to the sample, as I said, and lesbians were also not asked by WHOM they were abused. Plenty of lesbians are abused by former male partners or correctively raped. I know more than you about this topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 09:30 PM
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single single single
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 08:59 PM
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This is false, bud. The sample you’re talking about included gay men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 08:57 PM
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Yep.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 08:57 PM
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nah, most married couples are unhappy and being single is way better than being in a bullshit relationship where neither people are a good match
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 06:17 PM
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So untrue. I love being single. When I say I’m single I’m not entertaining anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 08:55 PM
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Interesting you’re on a debate sub then! Might not be the best fit
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 05:36 AM
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They actually don't. Men are promoted at much higher rates than women, and women hold many more jobs they are actually overqualified for than men. A lot of men are preventing women from doing those things. I explained all of this in my previous comment. Don't know why you're parroting the same misinformed, blissfully ignorant shit over and over again. I'd like to see you try and last a week as a woman in the workforce. If you think getting sex from whomever you desire and earning enough to keep …
/r/AllPillDebate18/09/23 01:15 AM
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It’s not “their problem.” Women are being prevented from applying or being interested because of the socially inept men who run things in those fields and go out of their way to treat women like shit. There would probably still be more men, but the proportion of female applicants would greatly increase if they weren’t required to work 2x as hard as men to even have a chance at getting the same level of recognition or respect. Earning a living and having sex are not exactly comparable. Don’t even…
/r/AllPillDebate17/09/23 08:46 PM
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Wrong, wrong, wrong. Men “take on harder work” because those opportunities are literally handed to them as long as they can complete half of their job requirements. Women have to be much better than men to even have a chance at being respected as much at work. “High managerial” roles don’t do shit, btw, and neither do most high ranking tech people. They make all their underlings do things for them. I never said she abandoned her career. You think very badly of women and it’s obvious.
/r/AllPillDebate17/09/23 07:21 PM
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What does one discipline have to do with anything? I know a woman who did computer science and physics at an Ivy League school. She’s incredibly smart. She was treated horribly by her classmates AND by her professors when she asked questions or needed things explained in a different way. They attributed it to her being a woman and “not belonging” in that area of STEM. Most people do not want to deal with shit like that. You just simply do not know what you’re talking about.
/r/AllPillDebate17/09/23 05:51 PM
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“Nothing” is stopping them lol Ok
/r/AllPillDebate17/09/23 05:20 PM
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Nah, the scales are balanced in other ways. Men are more likely to apply to jobs they don’t meet the qualifications for and get hired. Women don’t even bother applying. Begs the question about why only a third of your applicants are women. Perhaps it’s the right amount of women applying and too many idiot men. Ever consider that?
/r/AllPillDebate17/09/23 06:31 AM
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Hiring women does not indicate actual underqualification, it indicates that you think women are more likely to be underqualified and that you think the only way a woman could get a job instead of a man is by benefiting from affirmative action lol
/r/AllPillDebate17/09/23 06:18 AM
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Look man, I’ve talked to you before and you’re a lost cause. No use even attempting to discuss anything with you. Enjoy your miserable ignorance.
/r/AllPillDebate17/09/23 03:38 AM
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Sources below. Read em and weep.
/r/AllPillDebate17/09/23 12:43 AM
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https://academic.oup.com/esr/article/35/2/187/5370650 https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2023/03/01/gender-pay-gap-facts/ https://mitsloan.mit.edu/ideas-made-to-matter/women-are-less-likely-men-to-be-promoted-heres-one-reason-why https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20220222-proof-verus-potential-problem https://rady.ucsd.edu/why/news/2022/01-31-when-job-seekers-are-overqualified-gender-bias-may-come-into-play.html
/r/AllPillDebate17/09/23 12:01 AM
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Strong rebuttal
/r/AllPillDebate16/09/23 11:50 PM
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Women, but there’s really no excuse for men not to succeed to begin with. Men are afforded job opportunities much more readily, especially with regards to positions they aren’t qualified for.
/r/AllPillDebate16/09/23 10:03 PM
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You guys: do the exact same thing over and over expecting it to work when it never has before The thing: doesn’t work You guys: 😱
/r/AllPillDebate16/09/23 06:53 PM
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Staring at someone is an action. Ogling someone is not an emotion.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 05:41 AM
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You can control your eyes.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 05:40 AM
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You can control yourself. Men choose not to. There’s a difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 05:05 AM
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There are a lot of women who aren’t satisfied. We just don’t make that every stranger we might be potentially interested in’s problem. We vent to friends or family sometimes, or a therapist, but I don’t waste energy blaming random people for not being attracted to me because it’s a non issue. A systemic issue (although I’m not sure men’s dating problems could really even be considered systemic issues) doesn’t mean it’s then the burden of individuals around me to fix it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 01:08 AM
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Good job googling! Pretty sure I’ve had this conversation with you before. Can you name 3 prominent radical feminist theorists or authors? How about the major tenets of their ideology? “Abolishing the patriarchy” is a goal for many feminist branches. I understand that you are very fixated on the “radical” part of radical feminism, but it actually doesn’t mean what you think it means in this context. It does not mean “extra spicy.”
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 10:44 PM
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Nope! I recommend reading literature to increase your knowledge and stop misusing terms where they don’t apply. ETA: lengthening a shorthand to its original form does not actually tell anyone what something is. Hope that helps
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 10:39 PM
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Nice try at mindreading, but you did not answer my question. What is the difference between a radical feminist and, say, other variants of feminists? Why are you using that term specifically?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 10:27 PM
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Do you know what a radfem is?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 10:20 PM
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Lmao “what else are they supposed to do!” Maybe don’t take your problems out on other people and grow up
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 10:19 PM
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Boring
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 03:12 PM
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I didn’t say they weren’t attracted. I said they’d never be actually satisfied unless they had whatever they consider to be their personal 10.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 03:11 PM
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A lack of discipline and respect for your partner is definitely personal.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 03:11 PM
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This is what men do, too. The difference is that men will accept women they aren’t actually happy with and spend their lives pining after who they consider to be 10s. Women don’t spend their time watching porn with dudes who have totally unrealistic proportions and commenting on strangers’ Instagram posts if they’re in a relationship with someone they like and having good, consistent sex. Men are never satisfied with women’s appearances. The wider range of women they will sleep with indicates no…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 04:13 AM
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It’s super weird. One guy was trying to tell me what feminism was supposed to be and couldn’t see the irony.
/r/AllPillDebate15/09/23 12:11 AM
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I’m a feminist and also try to be a realistic person, but… they’re impostors lol. It’s all because they think they’ll get pussy.
/r/AllPillDebate14/09/23 11:43 PM
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Men cannot be feminists anyway
/r/AllPillDebate14/09/23 09:01 PM
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Depends on the context.
/r/AllPillDebate14/09/23 02:26 AM
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Lol no
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 02:24 AM
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If someone isn’t head over heels it is pointless to be with them. I want that or no relationship at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 07:01 PM
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Being with an average person is not the same thing as being in an average relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 01:45 PM
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Exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 12:51 AM
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You can’t be a bad person AND ugly and still have dating success. That’s the skinny. Good looking people get away with more. It’s just how it is. That doesn’t mean you should envy their ability to get away with more, it means you should grow up and accept that maturing and becoming a decent person is the way to attract decent women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 12:50 AM
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“Good enough” How sad!
/r/AllPillDebate02/09/23 02:59 AM
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Interesting you’re talking about retardation and intelligence quotient, considering the title of this thread
/r/AllPillDebate01/09/23 12:39 AM
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You’re interested in a friendship because you hope it will be a bridge to something else. Women can smell that a mile away. Hope this helps.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 12:20 AM
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What statistics have actually been published by a legitimate journal about this? I’ll wait for those. Otherwise, it’s not women’s problem that men are entirely desperate to fuck anything that moves.
/r/AllPillDebate26/08/23 04:13 AM
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I think you’re pretty dead on. My “standards” and desires have evolved as I’ve gotten older, but my expectations have never been unrealistic. I’m pretty clear on a few big non negotiables that are important to me, but the rest is up for debate. People are either too rigid about every single thing or go along with whatever is breathing and giving them the time of day. It should be somewhere in the middle.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 04:00 AM
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Not true. They think they don’t have a choice. Settling is ridiculous and childish. I would rather be alone than with a placeholder. Cultures in which women are forced to be married to random dudes are different. That’s really unethical as a general practice and in my point of view, it’s coercion. I don’t believe in cultural relativism.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 03:10 AM
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It’s very simple. People marry people they are not actually compatible with and it comes back later on to bite them in the ass. Physical attraction can only hold a relationship together for so long. The honeymoon phase passes, people lose their looks, kids happen, the ball and chain jokes ensue. I will never ever understand why straight people settle for anyone who doesn’t absolutely knock their socks off.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 01:32 AM
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I can def read bud Try actually interacting with a woman irl sometime and not going ballistic if you get rejected
/r/AllPillDebate26/08/23 12:33 AM
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You are making a lot of inferences and leaps that aren’t warranted because of your own personal bias. Hope that helps
/r/AllPillDebate25/08/23 10:33 PM
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No, it really doesn’t. Men are promiscuous and will sleep with as many people as they can. Attractive men are able to pull the largest proportion of attractive women as a general rule. That does not mean that women are only having sex with the top 5% of men, it means that the top 5% of men can have as many sexual partners as they like most of the time. There’s like a really obvious difference between that and “average men don’t have any hope because women are only accepting the top 5% of men.” I…
/r/AllPillDebate25/08/23 09:04 PM
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So you just don’t know how to read or interpret data. Attractive men having more sexual partners does not mean women will only accept the top 5% of men. Pls go outside
/r/AllPillDebate25/08/23 08:36 PM
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No real study says this. Not a single one.
/r/AllPillDebate25/08/23 07:34 PM
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In actuality, you have no clue what no makeup looks like. Trust me, you do expect to see women with makeup on. It’s been expected by men (lipstick, blush, eyeliner) for centuries and centuries.
/r/AllPillDebate25/08/23 04:08 PM
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No one cares lol Men expect women to wear makeup. You reap what you sow
/r/AllPillDebate25/08/23 12:37 AM
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Huh interesting. I had exactly the opposite experience prior to college, which is usually the first time men get “serious” about their educations. Men aren’t as prepared for college as girls because before that, they’re the bullies, class clowns, jocks, and dropouts. The female dropouts are usually the girlfriends of the male dropouts. Boys in high school aren’t serious about studying or making good grades and teachers are much more willing to be lenient / make excuses that boys have a harder ti…
/r/AllPillDebate23/08/23 05:29 AM
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When men act like you’re suggesting they do toward their daughters, they end up repressing normal sexual development and it backfires. That’s why pastors’ kids are some of the wildest.
/r/AllPillDebate23/08/23 02:12 AM
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You actually think that women do better at school because they are given preferential treatment? Why are you opposed to the idea that women simply outperform men academically? What if it isn’t about being female or supposed “advantages?” What if women are just better at school?
/r/AllPillDebate23/08/23 02:10 AM
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Children are not women
/r/AllPillDebate23/08/23 02:09 AM
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Absolutely.
/r/AllPillDebate23/08/23 01:45 AM
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Plz don’t have kids lol it is so so so beyond creepy you’re already sexualizing unborn children
/r/AllPillDebate23/08/23 01:45 AM
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Lolol
/r/AllPillDebate17/08/23 09:57 PM
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“I’m full lesbian now for her” Yeah that’s not how it works!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 03:20 AM
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Men aren’t as good looking as women so I’m not sure why this is surprising. Women are socially conditioned to put a whole lot more effort in and they are routinely rewarded by men for those efforts.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 09:35 PM
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Don’t care if you fuck your own life up lol why would you think I care about that
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 08:56 PM
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Cool, so you’re a raging misogynist. Hope that helps answer your question. I see you’re stealing tons of gigs of copyrighted material without paying for it too. Really upstanding guy you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 08:49 PM
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Food is an inanimate object and a woman is a person. Women are not commodities for you to use as you please for your sole benefit. Get a girlfriend or stay celibate.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 08:43 PM
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It’s not a slippery slope. Nobody should ever have sex they don’t want. What you just described is coercion and many people do consider that rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 03:13 PM
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Sex with a bunch of random dudes you don’t know is not mutually beneficial. A sustained relationship is different, but nobody should be doing this stuff with anyone they aren’t attracted to and wouldn’t normally consent to.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 06:10 AM
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Why would they tell you, a man who clearly supports the exploitation of women, their true experiences? They are lying to you if they’ve given the impression it’s all sunshine and roses.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 04:16 AM
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Talk to someone exited and then get back to me. If you’ve paid the ones you “know” for sex, they aren’t telling you the truth, it would hurt their business. Otherwise, the women you know are living in delulu land to protect themselves from a breakdown or are in that 10% of women who don’t want to exit because they have high paying clients.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 01:40 AM
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You’ve never heard them before because you don’t know any sex workers. I know many. None of them believe what they do is consensual; it’s simply what they do to survive. 90% want to exit. That is a pretty damning statistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 01:09 AM
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Yes, it does. You aren’t paying for sex, you are paying to rape them. If someone would not have sex with you under normal, consensual pretenses, you are buying their consent and thus raping them. Money is not and will never be equal to consent.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 08:44 PM
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Most of the women I know aren’t with men 8 inches taller than they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 04:10 AM
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I am talking about tall men, lol. Even tall men overwhelmingly prefer short girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 01:14 AM
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Nope. I have only met a very small handful of guys who actually had a preference for tall women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 12:47 AM
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Meh. Most men are taller than most women. It makes sense that women prefer a man to be taller than they are. 5’8 is under the average for males. I’m in the 99th percentile of height for women and men have never been interested in me—not that I wanted them to be, necessarily, but 🤷🏻‍♀️ stop reproducing with super short petite women if you want to improve your gene pool.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 10:57 PM
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I mean … it really isn’t something I need to swat away, I’m not a straight woman so I don’t experience most of these “perks” myself. It seems like the delusion comes in around about denying you have a ton of options and possibilities to successfully date as a straight person.
/r/AllPillDebate07/08/23 02:19 PM
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It has nothing to do with my personal comfort at all, not sure why you brought that up
/r/AllPillDebate07/08/23 02:01 PM
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Alpha fucks, beta bux
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 05:03 AM
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No, most women are fully aware of abuse lol. Whether or not they choose to do anything with that awareness is a separate issue Are you under the impression that only neurotypical attractive men can be abusive?
/r/AllPillDebate07/08/23 04:56 AM
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Kinda, but when discussing legitimate sexual attraction and desire, bank accounts don’t factor in. Money will get you a woman, but it won’t be because she’s viscerally attracted to them, so it’s not good enough in their eyes. That’s the whole AF / BB phenomenon they harp on rly hard
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 04:51 AM
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Women are more socially aware, yes
/r/AllPillDebate07/08/23 04:50 AM
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No, not really. There are femcels but they tend to take it out on themselves and self-reflect rather than blaming the world. Male pattern violence is the same; where women are more likely to attempt suicide / self destruct when they have mental health issues, men are more likely to hurt others and project their problems onto external entities and people Men feel entitled, that’s the long and short of it. They believe they deserve exactly what they want whenever they want it. On the other hand, m…
/r/AllPillDebate06/08/23 09:59 PM
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It’s usually a combo of both, they blame women for not responding well to their abysmal social skills
/r/AllPillDebate06/08/23 07:59 PM
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No lol I don’t use anecdotal experience to inform my opinions, especially not when the accounts are told by dishonest, delusional strangers I don’t know from Adam Changing your attitude does make a difference. The problem is that women can tell when you’re being disingenuous bc you’re hoping for a whiff of puss https://www.discovermagazine.com/health/genetically-speaking-youre-more-like-your-dad
/r/AllPillDebate06/08/23 07:46 PM
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You’re spot on! These men are pretty feminine in that way and haven’t come to grips with that. Wanting to be pursued and doted on is a feminine trait.
/r/AllPillDebate06/08/23 07:19 PM
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Subreddits aren’t sources lol screenshots are not sources Do I really have to explain to you what an opinion piece vs a legitimate study is? “When you’re good looking” yep, a few people in the world won the genetic or financial lottery. What about it? What is complaining about that going to do for your dating life? What does comparing yourself to and complaining about extremely attractive men do? Is that productive? All this says to me is you wish you were an extremely attractive man with the ab…
/r/AllPillDebate06/08/23 07:18 PM
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They don’t see the irony. They think it’s perfectly fine to hate women and to still be extremely desperate for sex.
/r/AllPillDebate06/08/23 07:08 PM
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Screenshots can be easily photoshopped and I don’t really consider pill websites to be sources either, that’s just circlejerking. When you are average looking, you do have to work harder to get women to notice you, that’s the way life is. Average men wouldn’t exist if women didn’t find them attractive enough to fuck and reproduce with.
/r/AllPillDebate06/08/23 07:07 PM
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Not a gotcha, I deleted because it’s not particularly relevant to the conversation and you would be unwilling to discuss WHY more women are CHOOSING to stay single
/r/AllPillDebate06/08/23 06:34 PM
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I never said that looks don’t matter. 50% of single adults are not looking for a relationship and that includes quite a few men. The problem is you are applying tenets of male sexuality to women. Men only care about sex and looks plus maybe an agreeable disposition and the ability to cook/clean, so you assume that this is also true for everyone else on earth—it’s not. Women’s attraction is much more complex and multifaceted and your personality / attitude / lack of social skills are def hurting …
/r/AllPillDebate06/08/23 06:30 PM
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That’s a blog lol not a real study Where’s the link to the reputable source Also, being autistic or desiring a date doesn’t automatically make you not a shitty person. It doesn’t exempt you from being abusive or a bad match for someone. Do you believe all men with social problems and bad attitudes deserve a relationship?
/r/AllPillDebate06/08/23 06:27 PM
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Wrong: autistic men are usually pervy AND obsessive.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 05:29 PM
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“They” are too scared/anxious or you are?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 05:28 PM
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Great post. This highlights exactly what I mean when I say to blackpillers that their attitudes and opinions about women as a whole and individuals are incredibly obvious and they simply do not get what I mean nor understand why they’ve been rejected. They’re all convinced it’s because of height and their faces.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 05:15 PM
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Yeah, it’s this. Most of them are probably about average, it’s their abhorrent attitude and views about women that deter people. They don’t even understand how observable most of those behaviors are like pretty much immediately
/r/AllPillDebate06/08/23 05:03 PM
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There’s somebody for everyone, those women just happen to not be the ones these men want. They can’t ever be self aware. They don’t understand that their attitudes are immediately noticeable both in person and online and aren’t interested in being told that they are the problem. Personal accountability doesn’t exist for them, they have a permanent, perpetual poor me victim mindset. Nothing will change that.
/r/AllPillDebate06/08/23 05:01 PM
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Men actually benefit more from marriage than women do, it’s why they almost always remarry after their wives die or leave them
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 12:55 AM
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Why would women like having sex with a guy who has a micropenis? That’s a genetic anomaly.
/r/AllPillDebate02/08/23 12:56 AM
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Insane omg
/r/AllPillDebate02/08/23 12:55 AM
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I never said they can’t have boundaries.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 02:19 PM
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Nope, it’s just realistic. Don’t see how it’s unhelpful either. I’ll amend: almost all men would be happier with blowjobs and a large majority of them expect them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 01:17 AM
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That doesn’t mean he applies that logic to his personal life. I’m betting he doesn’t, and that he wouldn’t date a woman who didn’t like giving oral. All men expect blowjobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 09:41 PM
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Why don’t you enjoy it? Do you expect women to suck you off when you won’t go down on them?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 07:42 PM
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Because you are desperate
/r/AllPillDebate22/07/23 10:39 PM
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The laziness comments are hilarious because that’s exactly what gaming is. It requires no meaningful life skill to be able to push buttons on a controller Most guys who play games every day are addicted to them and prioritize them over real hobbies and their relationships, even over sex I would never date a person who was a hardcore gamer they’re absolutely insufferable with no sense of reality
/r/AllPillDebate21/07/23 12:32 PM
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two things can be true. women have been interested in barbie forever AND the uptick of posts and attention is most definitely due to the movie.
/r/AllPillDebate19/07/23 11:43 PM
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yeah no i mostly agree with you. i’m not saying it’s everyone who consumes anime, but i would guess it is either the majority of men on this board who do or a very sizable minority it seems very very silly to criticize women’s enjoyment of something like barbie for a multitude of reasons, but i doubt people like OP are interested in those reasons
/r/AllPillDebate19/07/23 11:42 PM
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there has clearly been a spike in interest apart from the excitement around the movie, barbies were most little girls’ favorite toys for a really long period of time and nostalgia is a powerful drug. there’s really nothing wrong with being excited about something that has a lot of sentimental value. you all simply don’t like it because it’s a franchise that was made specifically for women and girls and the movie (directed by one of the best new directors of our time, might i add) is continuing t…
/r/AllPillDebate19/07/23 10:54 PM
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thtatithtically thpeaking anime watchers (especially male autists) are usually coombrains too so guess it all evens out with regards to unsavory qualities i have an iq higher than that, it’s not that i don’t understand it—im just not really into the whole finding cartoons that look like 12 year old girls the pinnacle of sexiness
/r/AllPillDebate19/07/23 10:50 PM
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It has a lot to do with the movie
/r/AllPillDebate19/07/23 09:18 PM
-1

You guys will worship dumb anime shows and marvel movies that are the same story over and over again and then make posts like this
/r/AllPillDebate19/07/23 09:18 PM
0

That’s it?
/r/AllPillDebate18/07/23 08:16 AM
-2

Unlikely you are subsidizing anyone unless you’re a high earner
/r/AllPillDebate17/07/23 12:10 AM
1

Women naturally carry a higher percentage of body fat than men do because our bodies are designed to be softer and to bear children. The fat distribution is very different on male and female bodies. It’s not that hard to riddle out.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 08:54 PM
2

I already explained it. Not interested in doing so again
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 08:47 PM
2

It makes plenty of sense if you use logic to come to conclusions. Women naturally carry a higher percentage of body fat than men do because our bodies are designed to be softer and to bear children. The fat distribution is very different on male and female bodies. It’s not that hard to riddle out.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 08:20 PM
4

I didn’t say that fat women look better than thin women. I said fat women look better than fat men. We all have our opinions. You unfortunately are not the arbiter of what’s objective truth and what isn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 07:58 PM
2

It is lol. Male bodies don’t carry fat in the same ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 06:17 PM
2

Women look better fat than men do. Hate to burst your bubble.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 05:06 PM
1

Will I be happier with the person I choose to marry? Yes. Until then I am happy single. I have family, friends, and pets who are great. Women are a lot more selective upfront, where men are not and they’re willing to date people who provide them with certain things (sex, cooking, cleaning) as long as they can until they find someone they’re actually interested in marrying. This is shady and underhanded imo and not at all equal to happiness, it’s equal to convenience. People who can’t find any jo…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 02:10 AM
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B, if: there was absolutely no effect on my life or my children’s lives as in no missing important events or milestones or vacations to fuck the hoes no unprotected sex ever, once we’re done having children he gets a vasectomy he agreed to very regular STD testing there’s no restrictive prenup
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 11:49 PM
1

Radical feminism is a specific term that exists already and you shouldn’t use it in the wrong context to attempt to communicate something else, that’s all I’m saying. It doesn’t mean “extreme” feminism. Radical feminism is essentially the idea that gender and gendered expectations are socially imposed and that biological sex / material reality are the most important things to consider when discussing relations between men and women Seems like it’s on you if you think there’s no depth to feminism…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 07:03 PM
1

I never said majority. I said it isn’t super super rare. I don’t have a “weird caveman lust” for tall men. I’m a tall woman. Why don’t you date within your own percentile?
/r/AllPillDebate14/07/23 04:00 PM
2

Well, but you are, because you’re insinuating that these social consequences happen because of women, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 02:51 PM
1

It’s just really weird to me. I don’t understand why my comments are being downvoted for simple facts such as “men are taller than women on average.” It’s life. It’s reality. Just get over it.
/r/AllPillDebate14/07/23 02:49 PM
1

That’s not what radical feminism is. You can just say feminism, I guess. There are specific subsets of feminist theory, radical feminism, liberal feminism, eco-feminism, Marxist feminism, etc. being among them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 02:47 PM
2

Never thought of it this way before, but this is an excellent point!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 05:20 AM
5

What is the actual issue? Why is it women’s responsibility to fix it?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 05:19 AM
1

Why is it a scam?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 03:27 AM
1

No, even super tall guys go after tiny petite girls and prefer them to women in a similar percentile to themselves. It’s two pieces of a puzzle.
/r/AllPillDebate14/07/23 03:26 AM
-1

Whatever. The point, which you missed, was that men on average are taller than women on average and end up with women who are shorter than themselves.
/r/AllPillDebate14/07/23 03:25 AM
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As I said, there’s a difference when this happens in established relationships vs. within early dating stages, and there is a difference between having a moment of weakness and flying off the handle. Being understanding is one thing. Being expected to understand an adult who is throwing temper tantrums on a regular basis is another. Also to add—being understanding and being uncomfortable can happen at the same time. If someone is truly emotionally stoic most of the time, it can be shocking or sc…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 02:56 AM
0

I see guys taller than me every day.
/r/AllPillDebate14/07/23 02:13 AM
2

Do you know what a radical feminist is? Just curious. Very specific term to use.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 01:39 AM
-2

Therapy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 01:37 AM
13

I do not buy this for a second. “Opening up” and “being vulnerable” are appropriate in certain instances and a woman seeing her husband of 20 years cry is going to react much differently than a woman you’ve been on 3 dates with. I am more than willing to bet what you’re talking about is not simple vulnerability or openness, but rather men becoming emotionally hysterical after long periods of going without something they believe they’re entitled to or after long periods of bottling up emotions. E…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 01:36 AM
-2

Plenty of men are 6’2. The average is brought down because of short men, not because 6’2 is a super rare height. I’m in the 99th percentile for female height so I don’t really think it would be unreasonable for me to like dating people a few inches taller than me.
/r/AllPillDebate14/07/23 01:18 AM
0

Correct! 5’8 dating 6’2 is perfectly reasonable.
/r/AllPillDebate14/07/23 01:13 AM
1

No, I think it’s about the same.
/r/AllPillDebate14/07/23 01:12 AM
1

There’s no can or can’t in terms of attraction. You like what you like. That’s fine. Most men do not like being shorter than their girlfriends, though. I’m 5’10 and I’ve only ever met one guy who preferred tall women.
/r/AllPillDebate14/07/23 12:23 AM
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It’s not shallow, really. You guys forget that an average man’s height is about 6-7 inches more than an average woman’s height. Sucks for the short kings, but it’s just numbers. Women are wired to prefer tall men, but there are many who will overlook height. My sister is 6’1 and with a dude who’s a couple inches shorter than she is. The bf she was with before that was about 5’7-5’8.
/r/AllPillDebate14/07/23 12:17 AM
1

Why do you care if women in their 20s are dating men their age
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 11:55 PM
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Your wife is tall. Why are you resentful that she wants a dude taller than she is?
/r/AllPillDebate13/07/23 11:53 PM
1

It’s very interesting that men here continuously equate being average or below with being a rockstar in bed. Trying real hard and being a nice person will not actually guarantee a rockstar performance in bed. Just doesn’t work that way. Plenty of men with great intentions can’t make women cum despite detailed instructions, and plenty of men with horrible intentions can do it easily. There’s a whole range of sexual ability within every single demographic.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 12:10 AM
1

Option B easily.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 12:08 AM
1

Can’t have your cake and eat it too, so they say. Waah.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 12:06 AM
1

I probably disagree with your interpretation of who exhibits those traits. I don’t think being an average guy automatically exempts you from displaying any of those traits, and the opposite applies, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 09:53 PM
1

No, because it’s always uncomfortable and weirdness is always introduced at some point or another. Women can have close platonic relationships with men, for sure. Most men are not capable of the same with women unless the person is ugly, a family member, or essentially equal to a family member.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 07:50 PM
2

Why are you the arbiter of who’s evil and who’s not What if a woman thinks YOU are evil?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 05:04 PM
-2

Oh, yep! That’s it! Couldn’t possibly be something to do with you.
/r/AllPillDebate12/07/23 02:00 AM
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So what’s up with all the normal dudes in committed relationships getting laid on a regular basis?
/r/AllPillDebate12/07/23 12:41 AM
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And it’s indicative of bad character to keep someone on the hook because she’s the best you could get when someone else might actually appreciate everything about her Women will reject people and be a lot more selective upfront, but at least we don’t string people along for years just because they cook and clean and have sex with us Try dating someone you actually like
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 09:57 PM
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They do
/r/AllPillDebate11/07/23 09:26 PM
1

“We appreciate what we can get” Lmfao aw how nice You guys realize this is not a compliment, right
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 09:08 PM
1

Ehhhh. Nah.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 03:00 AM
1

So why did he pursue her?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 02:29 AM
2

We know it was an issue of control rather than a desire to have boundaries respected because of two things: Boundaries are about the self, not others. None of her behavior was new behavior. Instead of accepting that he made a mistake deciding to enter the relationship, he tried to force her to accommodate him. I say “force” because a boundary is a statement about what YOU are going to do, not what others should or need to do. He could have reasonably communicated “I’m going to leave this relatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 12:35 AM
1

Yep
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 10:28 PM
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Depends how long a long time is, but eventually, yep
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 03:58 PM
1

telling someone else what to do is not a boundary.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 02:10 PM
2

Why do you care if people are seeing therapists
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 02:06 PM
1

This is correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 02:03 PM
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Stop thinking there’s a formula to dating and that anyone besides you is imposing anything upon your life. That’ll help
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 10:49 PM
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Dude, pause and breathe. No one was a drug addict here. She was a surfer long before she met Jonah. He knew she made these posts before he ever contacted her and then demanded that she change for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 10:46 PM
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It’s only a “price” if you’re doing it specifically to get into a relationship. Most normal people have jobs or some other way to support themselves financially.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 08:50 PM
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“Damn” lol only a 17 year old would think it’s reasonable to go through life without a job indefinitely and still be able to secure a partner in this economy If being yourself is being a bum with nothing to offer, yeah, you’ll have a hard time. That doesn’t mean the people who rule you out are unreasonable or shallow.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 01:01 PM
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He picked wrong and instead of admitting his mistake, he whined about it and attempted to change her. You’re absolutely right, there are women who are beautiful and don’t act that way, but he pursued her and took issue with existing traits. It’s also a bit complicated considering that he wanted to ban bathing suit pictures altogether even though her main hobby and job were surfing.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 04:56 AM
1

Great, so we agree. Single sex schools are better for girls.
/r/AllPillDebate09/07/23 04:13 AM
1

So you would rather them be in mixed schools where they still experience all of that social shit AND perform worse academically? Interesting.
/r/AllPillDebate09/07/23 03:52 AM
1

And? Doesn’t say girls perform worse academically in single sex schools.
/r/AllPillDebate09/07/23 03:44 AM
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No he wasn’t lol
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 02:24 AM
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He was a fucking idiot is what happened. She broke up with him. He is spinning things. (eta: as in, the relationship was over before it finally ended because of this very same singular problem) He couldn’t handle being with someone beautiful. She is a surfer, of course she’s going to have fit, attractive friends and lead the same sort of lifestyle. She did this BEFORE he ever knew her and he slid into her DMs BECAUSE of a surfing picture. If you cannot handle being with an attractive woman, do n…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 01:50 AM
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Lol You guys really don’t do any research. Girls do best in segregated schools. Boys do best in mixed sex schools and girls suffer. Boys suffer most in segregated schools. Get the common denominator?
/r/AllPillDebate09/07/23 12:41 AM
4

Wonderful description.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 11:37 PM
3

Man I hate posts like this because a relationship is an exchange. If it weren’t, people would be alone. It’s not a requirement, it’s a choice to enter a partnership. It doesn’t have to be transactional as in everything is tit for tat, but you do have to do things to maintain a certain level of care and love. I will fall out of love with someone if they don’t have a job, don’t have basic hygiene, don’t consider me, et cetera. Unconditional love exists, as in, caring for someone forever—but it doe…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 11:36 PM
1

Yeah, sure. Who’s gonna believe a porn star over a studio with lawyers on retainer? Even in cases of regular sexual assault where the offenders are singular individuals perpetrating against other individuals, it’s extremely unlikely there will be consequences or a conviction.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 05:34 PM
1

Nope, sounds like men need to stop paying to rape women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 05:10 PM
1

Nah you’re being intellectually dishonest. You know they aren’t the same, but you’re arguing that way because it suits your narrative and convenience Most of them did not volunteer to be routinely abused on set. Again, 90% want to exit. I’d go into more detail but you’re not interested in changing your mind just like most other men who think this way— they are not capable of understanding because 1. They are the primary consumers and don’t want their sources depleted, 2. They don’t understand wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 04:46 PM
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Because you don’t constantly have your person invaded by strange men, risk contracting incurable diseases, and have a 75% chance of developing PTSD as a cook. Sex workers describe their work as paid rape. 90% of them want to exit. Talk to one sometime instead of believing everything you read on the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 03:50 PM
1

Being a cook is not a fair comparison to being a porn star. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 03:46 PM
1

Nope. You don’t get AIDS or get raped at a regular job.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 03:41 PM
1

I would consider dehumanization (which is what objectification is) a form of hate.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 03:52 AM
0

The consumption of OnlyFans is misogyny because objectification is misogyny. It is less harmful, but it is still harmful. The average salary made per month doing OnlyFans is around $180, which is not worth the permanent repercussions many women face after putting their faces and bodies online for male consumption. It can screw up the ability to find a job, form relationships, get into schools, and more. The “it’s not a big deal” and “you can make so much money” are both lies. Women are groomed i…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 03:50 AM
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I am talking about studio porn and prostitution. Capitalizing on an exhibitionistic fetish within the comfort of your own home is nowhere near what full service women experience. Not even on the same planet.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 03:44 AM
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wow. It is the majority. Google is your friend. Most women engaging in any kind of full service sex work, most prominently pornography and prostitution, describe their work as paid rape. There is a reason Mia Khalifa has been so outspoken about her experiences since leaving the industry. https://www.collectiveshout.org/porn_stars_speak_out
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 03:40 AM
2

How can you not understand it?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 03:09 AM
0

Yeah, I don’t agree with the ruling.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 10:01 PM
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This is a complicated question. Too many factors to make a blanket statement. It depends on: - whether or not the husband asked his wife to stay at home - whether or not she has ever been employed - how long they were married - if there are children still in the home - how old the people involved are - whether or not she was afforded the opportunity to save her own money
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 09:05 PM
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Because it’s pathetic to treat human beings like objects when it suits you and then blame them for performing services that you yourself are using and buying?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 02:42 PM
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No but it IS pathetic if you say you won’t date one and still act like a desperado with them online / use their services
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 02:27 PM
2

most primarily, numbers—less than one percent of the population are lesbians homophobia never being taken seriously by society being left for men / used in place of men
/r/AllPillDebate07/07/23 05:27 AM
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Yea it is lol it means they have about 50% of the population available to them
/r/AllPillDebate07/07/23 05:24 AM
1

Mostly agree, I would switch bi and gay men tho because bisexual men have the option to live pretty heteronormative lives and do around 90% of the time statistically
/r/AllPillDebate07/07/23 03:55 AM
1

“have to deal with being attracted to women who are straight” that is some wild rationale. almost no lesbian over the age of 17 complains about this unless she is exclusively into straight women. i have never liked a straight girl and i don’t think that is even close to the top of the list in terms of the issues we experience.
/r/AllPillDebate07/07/23 03:53 AM
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lol straight women bisexual women straight men bisexual men trans women gay men lesbians trans men
/r/AllPillDebate07/07/23 03:52 AM
2

It really depends on your own personality as well as how significant the gap is between your salaries. Also depends whether or not you both have careers vs jobs and whether or not you pool your finances.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 03:27 AM
3

Most guys feel emasculated and out of control around high earning women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 02:06 AM
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They absolutely do care if you make more than they do. 100%. Disagree tho—sometimes the stronger thing is to actually feel your emotions and let them happen. A lot of dudes mistake stoicism for avoidance. Vulnerability is difficult. There’s strength in both responses, it just depends on the situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 12:34 AM
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Being emotionally stoic doesn’t always mean you are stronger, it just means you are less demonstrative. Men prefer women who make less, so that works out well most of the time. Wanting to lord your money or status over your partner as an advantage you have is unattractive. Being generous and enjoying sharing with your partner is attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 12:23 AM
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Than narcissists? No.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 08:25 PM
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Lol yeah there is. There is plenty of research to support narcissists’ (especially male narcissists’) patterns of abuse. Borderlines are more likely to engage in self destructive behavior and their motivations are very different. Again, this doesn’t mean they never abuse anyone, but it’s less likely than it is for a narc and it’s for different reasons. Narcissistic parents often create/produce personality disordered children, including borderlines, so there’s a link there too like I mentioned be…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 08:11 PM
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I didn’t say that. I said borderlines are more likely to be abused by narcissists than the other way around.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 07:25 PM
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1.6% of people is both men and women. If we estimate about 1% for either, that’s 1 in 100 men and 1 in 100 women with BPD. Not that common. Tons of people on BPD/NPD subs have discussed this happening, and more formally it’s a hot topic within psychology and psychological research. It’s more frequent than you think. I respect your experience but what I’m talking about happens, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 04:35 AM
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Lol why
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 03:39 AM
1

Yep. People don’t always make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 03:38 AM
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What isn’t accurate? I’m not saying they are never abusive, I’m saying they are drawn to people who abuse them, particularly narcissists. They aren’t mutually exclusive concepts. A narcissist is more likely to abuse the borderline than the other way around.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 03:31 AM
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Yes, this is why they are often partnered, and the person with BPD is much more likely to be abused than the other way around.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 03:08 AM
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Not always true. Hypersexuality and promiscuity CAN be defining features of a personality disorder, but some people swing the other direction. Narcissistic men are more common than narcissistic women, and women with BPD are usually shaped by and drawn to narcissists. If a guy is chronically into women with BPD, it says something about him, too. Also—these are serious disorders. Most of the people you’re thinking of probably do not have actual personality disorders, but might exhibit some traits.…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 03:06 AM
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Women are more empathetic than men, generally speaking. Men don’t care about pregnant women unless it’s their pregnant woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 07:17 PM
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No, probably not. Unless I made a lot of money. Like enough that alimony wouldn’t matter, if it had to be paid, and this was discussed as a probable arrangement prior to the children existing. If in a perfect world all this lined up, the stay at home parent would get x amount of money from me to use at their discretion and otherwise as needed. Money would go into their own separate bank account that they’re responsible for managing. Once the kids are at school age, I’d prefer a part time job to …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 02:07 AM
2

Men have inflated self images AND they are desperate with zero standards for hookups. Relationships are a different story. Men here are constantly complaining they can’t pull extremely attractive women for a relationship. Women having standards higher than whoever it is having a pulse isn’t delusional. It’s been hammered into our brains from infancy that our looks are the only thing that matter, and also that they’re never ever up to snuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 11:33 PM
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It depends on the career. Careers where schmoozing and charisma are required will not be friendly to incels because most of them lack basic social skills, let alone complex ones.
/r/AllPillDebate04/07/23 11:20 PM
0

This is so boring
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 11:19 PM
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She didn’t mention anyone being a bitch. You inserted that because that’s your opinion of attractive, successful women. More often than not “she’s a bitch” means “she’s better than me at certain things and doesn’t need me to support her financially or baby her.” That’s okay! Just stop expecting women to change to suit your particular needs. Find someone who already does.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 09:40 PM
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🙄 so don’t date an attractive, successful woman. Date someone dumb and ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 09:35 PM
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Lmaoo man it doesn’t mean someone isn’t interesting or smart just because you don’t like someone’s personality or disagree with their opinions What would be so different? Why wouldn’t a man in a relationship with an attractive, successful woman with lots of friends be glad for his situation?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 09:04 PM
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No one mentioned those things. She mentioned compatibility, attraction, time, and effort. Which one of those things is too much to ask for?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 04:04 PM
3

This is the right attitude for both men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 05:01 AM
2

those are very big requirements No, they literally are not. They are bare minimum things. Those things make a relationship work.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 04:58 AM
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it is not attractive to just want any woman to pay attention to you, it’s demeaning and sad having standards and knowing what you like is much healthier and more well-adjusted
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 04:57 AM
1

If feminine women are asking to be provided for in the same ways, why isn’t that entitled, too? What’s the difference?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 03:21 PM
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masculine men instinctively love providing and they’re secure enough in themselves not to need someone to be feminine in every single way 24/7. even a masculine woman cannot emasculate a masculine man if you bring up a bunch of conditions and stipulations to your provision, you’re not as masculine as you think and you really just want to be doted on and adored the same way women do
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 03:50 AM
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Hers doesn’t matter, but his does. Dudes be out here wanting a full on 50s housewife and don’t even make 60k a year. Unbelievable.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 02:18 AM
4

Yep. Delusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 12:36 AM
1

No lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 12:36 AM
3

What lol
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 10:14 PM
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much more believable that a successful doctor who owns her own home is in a happy relationship than u, bud
/r/AllPillDebate30/06/23 07:19 PM
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this is so stupid it’s funny
/r/AllPillDebate30/06/23 05:50 PM
0

queen
/r/AllPillDebate30/06/23 05:49 PM
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😂
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 02:05 PM
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Why are you so sure it’s women choosing to be in this situation and not men choosing to leave? Amazing you blame the parent who’s still present. Men win in family court more often than women do, as long as they show up, which they almost never do because they don’t WANT custody of their children. It is not the same all over the western world, and even if it were, I’d love to hear why you think it was women who cut pay in half.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 06:21 PM
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I NEVER SAID it wasn’t. Autistic women experience just as much mental illness, self harm, many issues with unemployment, and bullying. The difference is autistic men violently lash out and get themselves landed in jail and autistic women are abused. Women attempt suicide a lot more often and are generally more afflicted with mental illness as a population, men just succeed more often because they use gruesome methods.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 03:55 PM
1

Yeah, I’m sure they’ve chosen not to have any support from their child’s father lol “Cheque” tells me you don’t live in the US, which very likely means you don’t have any clue what you’re talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 03:53 PM
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Look up how many autistic women are sexually assaulted and taken advantage of
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 05:24 AM
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I was referring to the difference in MEN’S hookup and relationship standards. I am very aware there’s not much of a difference for women, which actually makes a whole lot more sense. That’s all a lie. Unfortunately if a guy is average looking, has a decent job, and some kind of basic social life / level of independence, he won’t struggle to get with someone. If someone is struggling and cannot get ANYONE at ALL to be interested in them as a heterosexual person, there are significantly larger pro…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 05:10 PM
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No lol u lie when you pretend to be nice to women just to get in their pants despite hating everything about them, tho
/r/AllPillDebate27/06/23 05:00 PM
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Would need to see the study. I don’t know how this data was measured or what the sample sizes were or if they were proportional. Yeah, I was talking about relationship standards, not hookup standards. I also said that the men HERE have high standards. They don’t necessarily represent everyone else, but I would guess it’s a pretty good representation of sexually and relationally unsuccessful men. Plenty of average people end up in relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 01:40 PM
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Males are around 75% of tinder users It is not my problem that men are sexually reckless and indiscriminate because of their desperation for sexual contact. Men will fuck a corpse. They will fuck a hole in the wall.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 12:59 PM
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Theirs? Absolutely
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 12:19 PM
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https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/0956797611421206 https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1002/per.2027 https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2016/04/26/a-wider-ideological-gap-between-more-and-less-educated-adults/ https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0160289615000136 https://www.jstor.org/stable/25677384 I am sure you’d be able to find sources otherwise too but interpretation of the data is up to you
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 12:14 PM
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oh ok so ur just a regular old misogynist pretty pathetic to keep fucking women if u categorically hate them don’t ya think
/r/AllPillDebate27/06/23 02:40 AM
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literally nothing you said applies to me, pls get help lol no one cares that one girl cheated on you one time
/r/AllPillDebate27/06/23 02:27 AM
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🙄 go freak out somewhere else weirdo
/r/AllPillDebate27/06/23 02:19 AM
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Yes. https://www.rainn.org/statistics/criminal-justice-system https://cmsac.org/facts-and-statistics/ https://www.dasi.org/sexual-violence.php Also: https://revealnews.org/article/rape-suspects-walk-free-victims-dont-get-justice-and-police-get-to-count-it-as-a-success/ https://www.ktvu.com/news/california-releases-thousands-of-pedophiles-less-than-year-after-their-convictions-data-shows.amp http://www.leadershipcouncil.org/1/res/rcd.html#:~:text=Overall%2C%20follow%2Dup%20studies%20typically,%2C…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 11:59 PM
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No, they don’t. 995/1000 sexual assault perps walk free.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 11:47 PM
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You think all of them are aware of it? I’m not so sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 11:32 PM
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Yes. Submissiveness and a willingness to mold their lives around his. They don’t like women who are smarter or more capable than they are. They also expect cooking, cleaning, and sex on tap.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 10:20 PM
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They are. Look it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 09:07 PM
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It’s definitely a mental illness, but a lot more men are afflicted by it and inflict it upon others than do women. It’s tangentially related to male sexuality at least—probably more than tangentially. Men admit to being obsessed with youth and to them, the younger, the better. Ever hear the phrase “old enough to bleed, old enough to breed?”
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 09:03 PM
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Laughable lol there are absolutely not “just as many” female pedos, and almost no male pedophiles get jail time either
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 08:53 PM
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It’s against sub rules to call out specific posters. Go and see for urself.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 08:51 PM
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It’s pointless being in this sub anymore, honestly. Just laughable.
/r/AllPillDebate26/06/23 08:04 PM
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By this metric, all men are dysfunctional lol Have you ever noticed that men resist the things women are saying simply to resist?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 06:50 PM
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Men statistically do not like women who are smarter or more successful than they are, point blank. The reasons many more women are working today, even within partnerships, are twofold: Women are being appropriately recognized in education and being “allowed” to excel because there aren’t quite so many legal barriers Men can’t provide by themselves and need their partners to work for a dual income and to support the kind of lifestyle they want to live If there’s a snag, like that he starts feelin…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 06:48 PM
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Out of necessity, not preference. Men need their wives to work because they are incapable of unilaterally providing anymore, thanks to the capitalistic framework they built.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 06:46 PM
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Yes. This is it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 06:44 PM
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I didn’t know fat was synonymous with socially awkward lol
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 04:51 PM
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God these posts are getting so boring So what? What is the point of this post? If you resent trying to provide for women so much, don’t do it. Most households need a dual income to stay afloat these days anyway, which causes men to feel emasculated and to become seriously resentful. My mother always told me never to rely on men for anything because they will weaponize it and use it against you when it suits them. Doesn’t sound like altruistic providing to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 04:46 PM
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Nah, that’s clearly not what you mean. What you mean is that women reject you and don’t give you a chance despite not being attracted to you and not having anything in common with you, and maybe that they flippantly rebuff your inappropriate advances. Sound right?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 04:41 PM
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You can’t “have” whoever you want because women are not objects. They get an equal say.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 04:39 PM
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Obviously my comment was not a personal attack against you. If it doesn’t apply, move along.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 04:30 PM
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I’m genuinely interested in what you think those things mean, for sure. That’s why I asked.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 04:29 PM
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Sure, most of the initiation is on the man, but men are horrible at doing any maintenance after that stage. Women hold relationships together. We might be more naturally inclined, but we also experience things throughout our lives that teach us lessons about social interaction and other people. I’m not really sure why men here keep insisting this is absolutely impossible for a man to do unless a girl gives him a chance, even though she isn’t attracted to him, to teach him these skills. How is th…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 06:27 AM
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No, I did not ask you “to define words.” I asked you to define how you are using those terms, because I’m sure it’s not what I would consider to be rudeness, hatred, or abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 05:57 AM
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How on earth did I suggest attraction can be controlled?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 05:57 AM
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How about participate in the discussion and answer for your own statements? Why make the comment if you’re unwilling to specify how exactly women have been rude, hateful and abusive to men constantly?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 05:06 AM
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And then if they do manage to get with someone, they spend their time degrading her appearance by watching copious amounts of porn, stalking Instagram models and liking all their pictures, and developing parasocial relationships with OnlyFans girls. It’s just. Wow
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 04:26 AM
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You have, by suggesting that men cannot teach themselves basic social skills. Why do men need so much help socially? You are the person complaining, not me. You aren’t the arbiter of who gets to stay or leave. If you want an echo chamber, I suggest r/lonely or an incel sub where people aren’t as likely to disagree with your sentiments.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 04:23 AM
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It’s always a natural consequence of women’s inferiority when we fall behind in something, and it’s always artificially manufactured by society when we excel. They cannot take it and they will always want to restructure things to make sure they come out on top. Their egos won’t allow for anything else and they still very clearly regard us as inferior in every way. We can’t possibly have earned anything wherein we outperform men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 04:14 AM
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I am a lesbian and date women myself, so I think my perspective is typically pretty well informed and balanced, but they’d come up with some reason as to why I should be discredited, I’m sure 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 04:09 AM
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I am not interested in helping adult men develop basic social skills, no. If it is truly that much of a problem, perhaps individual and occupational therapy. What you’re suggesting is that women act, toward men who are theoretically “on their level” and supposedly considerations for partners, as mothers and therapists. No one wants to do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 04:07 AM
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Why not? Plenty of socially awkward women make friends and get boyfriends. Why is it women’s responsibility to teach you how to interact with people on a basic level?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 03:49 AM
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Let’s define each of these things: rudeness from women hatred from women abuse from women
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 02:00 AM
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We need to give boys an unfair leg up in education because they aren’t as dedicated or hardworking as girls? Seems legit.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 01:58 AM
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The reason they have dead bedrooms is that they aren’t sexually attracted to each other and aren’t compatible in other areas, either. Everyone needs to stop marrying people they don’t even like. When the initial chemistry and honeymoon phase wears off and people age, that’s what you’re left with.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 12:16 AM
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Right? I remember commenting on a post a couple of weeks ago in here that was a man asking for advice from women. Instead of taking it on board, he (and most of the other guys) used it as an opportunity to personally insult me, discredit my words, and to tell me none of it would work. Well, clearly what you’re doing now isn’t working, either 🤡 How on earth does it make sense to keep saying “women should be honest about what they like” when women are neverrrrrr listened to? If you aren’t going to…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 12:13 AM
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Yep. Unattractive does not equal kind, intelligent, or good in bed.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 12:09 AM
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you can’t throw a socially awkward guy into the wilderness and expect him to make friends lol why?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 12:08 AM
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Yep. Women are way better at socializing and maintaining relationships. Men form and maintain relationships due to proximity and convenience and women are willing to do a lot more to prioritize people who are important to them, regardless of barriers. Men have to generally be the ones to INITIATE social contact with romantic interests, but after that stage is over, the maintenance is alllll up to the woman. Women are the social glue and always have been.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 12:01 AM
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This is literally the majority of posts on this sub. Majority of men here want to be with extra hot women who viscerally desire them and will not accept anything else. Clearly they have bigger problems than not being able to find ANY suitable relationship, and they’re over here talking about how WOMEN’s standards are too high.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 11:59 PM
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Republicans on average have a lower IQ and live more sheltered lives. It’s the same with women who are born into religious cults and insist they’re happy. They don’t know any better.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 09:40 PM
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“Not all men” has no place in a debate sub. We aren’t here to comb over each individual outlier’s personal experiences, we are here to analyze how men and women act in a general sense, and to potentially inform that analysis with useful personal experiences when appropriate. It doesn’t matter if a few women are like that or if a few men aren’t. Doesn’t change anything about lived reality for most people.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 10:41 PM
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Yes, they do! Such as paying to rape someone :) I would consider that a far worse decision than doing what’s needed for survival, to keep a roof over their heads, and to support whatever children they have. You don’t get HIV or get sexually assaulted at a regular job. Try again.
/r/AllPillDebate23/06/23 08:33 PM
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Prostitution is a job. It’s not my decision to work, I wouldn’t do it if I had another choice. I have to do it to avoid homelessness. Most prostitutes do not even have access to all of the funds they make, pimps do, and it’s extremely difficult to exit. People who think like you do have reinvented the field to make it seem empowering and appealing all over again, effectively trapping and manipulating young women for their own gain. Once they figure out how bad it really is, it’s usually too late…
/r/AllPillDebate23/06/23 08:09 PM
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Blah blah blah. Do not try to manipulate me into falling for your woke misogyny. 90% of prostitutes want to exit. Over 75% end up with PTSD. Almost all of them have been sexually and violently assaulted on the job. Nobody except for high end call girls enjoys prostitution and you’re an idiot if you think anything else.
/r/AllPillDebate23/06/23 08:00 PM
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There’s no agency involved. Having to sell your person for money is not agency, it’s survival. The top 10% of prostitutes are making the most money and experiencing the best quality of life due to these sacrifices. They don’t speak for the other 90% who statistically want to exit. Over 75% end up with PTSD. Female sex workers are also 30 times more likely than other women to end up with HIV. Don’t try to manipulate me into conceding to your degeneracy.
/r/AllPillDebate23/06/23 07:58 PM
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Nothing she said is stupid. Everything she said is true.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 06:45 PM
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Greatly reduces risk of criminal consequence, minimizes struggling, introduces more flexibility and ease of access, et cetera If a woman would not have sex with you under normal pretenses and you have to pay her to give you access to her person, it is paid rape
/r/AllPillDebate23/06/23 06:45 PM
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Nope, it’s just life! It’s sexist to pay to rape someone, but here we are
/r/AllPillDebate23/06/23 04:45 PM
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No it doesn’t lol men will fuck a corpse, my man Mortuaries prefer not to hire men for this reason Men will fuck a hole in the wall You don’t need to be the pinnacle of attractiveness to be in a relationship, but history, chemistry, etc. inform women’s desire to start one and stay in one. Men will throw everything away for a younger, hotter piece of ass because of the way they look. We just are not wired the same way at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 04:44 PM
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This won’t work because men r dawgs Men think being a prostitute is easy because they are the ones paying for sex. They will never get it.
/r/AllPillDebate23/06/23 03:38 PM
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No. It means that men are desperate enough for sex that they’re willing to sleep with women they aren’t very attracted to and wouldn’t consider for a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 03:19 PM
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Not really. The whole point is “this prison study shows that sometimes when a scarcity mindset is introduced, people are less selective about their partners so obviously women are lying about not being able to be attracted to me and should change it”
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 03:17 PM
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It really depends how easy you are to be around and how much you make her feel guilty for your own expectations / needs you feel aren’t being met. I’ve seen it happen lots of times. If the personality isn’t there and you don’t get along, it won’t happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 05:22 AM
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What about it? This whole sub is just men telling on themselves. They don’t understand female sexuality and they project male sexuality onto women. Attraction for women can involve a person’s disposition/charisma, hobbies and interests, mannerisms, scent, grooming choices and fashionability, career goals, current living and money situation, values, appearance, cleanliness and the ability to take care of oneself in domestic ways, sexual chemistry, and for some other groups it can involve religion…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 04:28 AM
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A lot (if not most) of men are sexual predators and do what they can to manipulate others into getting what they want, older men included. It is predatory to date women who are significantly younger than you are, but it’s also common and totally unsurprising. There is evidence that men are more emotionally manipulative than women in multiple types of environments. This is no exception. Not sure why there is a constant denial of this very obvious, very clear aspect of life. If it weren’t true, yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 04:19 AM
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I didn’t understand that from the OP. I said: Do you consciously control who you are attracted to? What is this obsession with trying to force women to be attracted to people they aren’t? That is what the original poster is suggesting that women do. He is also suggesting that women lie about not being able to be attracted to certain people. The studies he provided indicate two things: Prison introduces a scarcity mindset that isn’t as present outside of prison Women are more selective about who …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 04:05 AM
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No, that’s what you did. Why do you feel the need to comment something antagonistic in response to things women say if you agree? Ask yourself why there is resistance.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 04:01 AM
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😂 wow you’re funny! Most women do not like casual sex, and women do not choose sexual partners based on looks alone. Stop projecting male sexuality onto women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 03:58 AM
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Women do care about looks, but it’s not as much as men do, and it’s also not the only thing that’s considered. I do not know why men here continually deny that women’s attraction is much more complex and contains many more variables. What men care about: - the way a person looks - a submissive personality - cooking, cleaning, and sex on tap That’s pretty much it. It is factual that men’s attraction is based on “shallower” attributes. A larger number of women selecting “attractive” men on dating …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 03:56 AM
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I didn’t say rape anywhere but good job incriminating yourself I guess
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 02:59 AM
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Men really can’t handle not being a woman’s preference. It makes them go crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 09:10 PM
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The argument is it’s not “both sides” because men perpetrate this sort of behavior at a much higher rate
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 09:06 PM
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So no source, got it lol Men are far more entitled when it comes to sex than women and become wayyyy more emotionally out of whack when they’re rejected. They have a very hard time with not fitting a person’s preferences. It is not women’s problem that men are far more indiscriminate.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 08:47 PM
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What do you mean “huh?” What’s confusing?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 07:05 PM
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Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 07:05 PM
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All of that is irrelevant and doesn’t matter, though, unfortunately.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 07:05 PM
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Please explain to me what I’m not comprehending about “women are lying about not being able to change who they’re attracted to”
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 07:03 PM
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Do you consciously control who you are attracted to? What is this obsession with trying to force women to be attracted to people they aren’t? The entitlement is unreal.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 12:37 AM
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The rules don’t apply to men, obviously
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 11:55 PM
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Go out and make some friends. Online dating is not going to work well for you if you’re not savvy with it. Networking and making friends with people in similar hobbies is the best way to meet new people.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 05:20 PM
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I think this guy admits to wanting to rape and kill people and if you look up to this kind of thing you’re deranged and need to be in prison lol
/r/AllPillDebate20/06/23 02:40 PM
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well u r evil for sure
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 02:36 PM
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Do you acknowledge the correlation between bodycount and monogamous union instability? This issue, which you brought up in the comment right before mine??
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 11:58 PM
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I’m not relying on my experiences, I am relying upon observations, what you’re saying, and statistics
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 04:58 PM
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I have no problem with women having sex. I do have a problem if I have invested 10 years in a monogamous relationship with one. This is projection
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 04:02 PM
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Stop projecting because you got cheated on once and have some perspective, this is unhealthy
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 03:33 AM
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I have never denied the correlation. I’m telling you that it’s still not your business despite it, and that you are most likely massively overstating and overestimating the prevalence of this issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 03:32 AM
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That’s a personal slight, not disrespect imo
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 03:32 AM
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Nah lol your projections are not my responsibility
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 03:31 AM
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Sex / sex acts and deferment are the only real answers
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 11:57 PM
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To secure a partner, sure. What you don’t understand is that men’s efforts can feasibly end after that with no consequences. Women are the social glue which holds relationships together for the rest of their duration, however long that might be.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 11:24 PM
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Latin infidelis means unfaithful and you brought up fidelity first lol Let’s define “disrespect” first
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 10:51 PM
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Okay
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 10:12 PM
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I don’t have a reckless sexual history. Believe it or not, not all of us are concerned with solely our own lives and interests. Men are far more likely to be disrespectful, to be infidels, and for both society and girlfriends to have lower expectations for accountability.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 10:09 PM
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“Unaccountable hedonist” lol Women having sex is bad if it’s not with me! Most women have fewer than ten sexual partners in their lives
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 10:08 PM
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we all have to live with the consequences of our actions Source? That’s news to me!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 10:07 PM
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Boring
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 08:57 PM
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Boring
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 08:56 PM
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That’s not what I’m talking about. Obviously I was not equating a lack of desire for marriage with hatred.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 08:55 PM
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I don’t really care haha it’s still really gross and sad to chase after women you hate
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 07:32 PM
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I never said I leak onto other people, just that men are playing this blame game and often do the same shit (or worse). I don’t accept what I don’t want and I have very firm boundaries. If something is not suiting me I leave. Please stop following me around if you have nothing useful to contribute.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 07:32 PM
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There is no one “feminist definition” of rape lol unless you think men should be able to just do whatever they want without consent it’s not an issue You can not care that someone forced themselves on you. That doesn’t mean everyone else will feel the same way. Not really sure what the disconnect is there. Women who are married at 30 have a much higher chance of staying married than women who get married at 21, and they’re less likely to have high body counts if they wait until then to be marrie…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 07:31 PM
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Don’t see how that’s related
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 07:27 PM
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Oh yeah I’m sure it is. I just mean even if they want that specific woman to be different, doesn’t mean it’s possible materially speaking lol they will never be happy
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 06:09 PM
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My comment addresses that. “Damaged goods” can’t reverse this damage in these men’s minds and they will always have this baggage. What exactly should formerly promiscuous women do if they’re interested in changing this? Also, why should women who aren’t in a relationship with you (and most of whom don’t even know you) do things in accordance to your wishes and desires? Expecting strangers to conform to your wishes just because it’s a preference of yours is extremely unhealthy, possessive and wei…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 05:54 PM
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“All men want is accountability and mutual respect” lolol ok
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 05:04 PM
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Why are u using quotes? Do you think that abuse and rape are not real things that happen within relationships? Have you seen statistics about correlation between marriage age and divorce rates? Why would you want to be with someone who has already been divorced by the time they’re 30?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 04:57 PM
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“Self traumatize themselves” is a redundant phrase Men will have no social life, no place of their own, no physical fitness, no healthy perspectives on anything, and blatantly hate women whilst still wanting a gf / to sleep with women Women are not the only people with interpersonal issues that leak out onto others
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 04:53 PM
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Women respond to trauma in different ways and it usually manifests as a self-harming type of thing, where men are the opposite and take it out on everyone else. Usually there are tells if you’re astute at all. You don’t have to be in a relationship already to know that someone has been traumatized. Like all other problems, it’s deciding whether or not they are issues you are capable or willing to deal with. EVERYONE has problems, even if they aren’t traumatized.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 04:51 PM
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Yep 💀 they really think there is nothing wrong with them and their outlook
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 04:50 PM
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They’re real https://2001-2009.state.gov/r/pa/ei/rls/38790.htm#:~:text=A%202003%20study%20first%20published,in%20prostitution%20want%20to%20escape. https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-30978567.html#:~:text=According%20to%20Ruhama%2C%20approximately%2090,no%20viable%20alternatives%20for%20them. https://www.womenslaw.org/about-abuse/forms-abuse/sexual-abuse-and-exploitation/forced-prostitution/leaving-prostitution/why https://www.lsbu.ac.uk/stories-finder/exiting-prostitution https://www.ncbi.…
/r/AllPillDebate17/06/23 10:05 PM
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No, those things are morally wrong because you and all other men like you are using women like objects. Porn stars and prostitutes are actually people, they are not objects who only exist to serve your sexual pleasure. 90% of prostitutes want to exit and over 75% of exited women have PTSD. You simply care nothing for other human beings and only care about getting off. Also please for the love of god stop using semicolons incorrectly u look like a pretentious knob
/r/AllPillDebate17/06/23 08:16 PM
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I said “that’s not what I’m talking about” You’re using semicolons incorrectly btw you can just use commas That is not true at all. Men are the ones who beat and kill gay people. Just happened not too long ago with a black gay kid, and a lesbian couple was murdered in Hong Kong. https://www.jstor.org/stable/3813671 https://news.gallup.com/poll/9580/girls-more-likely-than-boys-approve-gay-marriage.aspx https://paa2008.populationassociation.org/papers/81144 https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/fac…
/r/AllPillDebate17/06/23 07:58 PM
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That’s not what I’m talking about lol Plus ur not gay so shut up
/r/AllPillDebate17/06/23 07:12 PM
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Lol no one cares about “passport bros” and women are much more accepting of homosexuality than men are The other things (porn and prostitution) are morally wrong and corrupt society so it would make sense that they’d upset women in relationships The onlyfans girl who’s “flirting” with you does not care about you I promise lol
/r/AllPillDebate17/06/23 02:59 PM
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You are a western man with western standards. The same unproductive comparisons apply oppositely too. What I said is still relevant. The women in other less developed countries want more masculine men who can provide for their families, and the expectation of that is much more widespread in more conservative places than here. The white boy novelty only extends so far.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 01:34 PM
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The post asks what men can do to improve themselves. I answered. If you want to spend your life comparing who has it harder and wallowing in your lack of success rather than heeding decent advice, I don’t know what to tell you. “Native” women live in countries that are far more hostile to men who aren’t at the top of the pyramid than here.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 03:16 AM
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There is a scarcity of mental health providers, which then begs the question—might there be a significantly higher population of people who actually do need therapy? You’re right, though, people who don’t want to improve will be useless in therapy and won’t benefit from it. I also think that you are underestimating the amount of people who have serious problems. Most of the people in this sub who are unable to get anyone to be interested in them would qualify as having a serious problem, and pro…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 03:19 PM
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Where is your source for these claims: “Most of the population doesn’t need therapy” “This takes therapy away from those who need it” If no source, what is the reasoning behind this? Have you ever been to therapy?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 03:07 PM
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Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 02:40 PM
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Which suggestions I provided are “out of touch with reality” and why?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 01:05 AM
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And it’s delusional to expect women to experience visceral, primal attraction to effeminate, physically unattractive men with low EQ, but here we all are. Most of the men in that thread were very descriptively denigrating toward fat women and said they wouldn’t settle down with her or show her off to people in their lives. That’s a fine preference to have, but let’s not undersell how important superficiality and looks are to men. They are much more important to men than they are to women, and ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 12:55 AM
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Things expected of modern women, particularly in this sub, that weren’t expected of women previously: Contribute to household bills, have an income Look like insta thots who have had surgical enhancements No body count, but also put out after the first or second date Be attracted to an unattractive man, building attraction over time is unacceptable—it must be visceral and immediate Don’t be overweight at all Be ok with competing with porn and onlyfans Pay for half of dates/every other trivial ou…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 12:21 AM
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Untrue. Refer to #1.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 12:13 AM
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Yep—I think it’s interesting, too, that they all believe life in other countries or with women of different ethnicities will work out for them. Often, male violence and the threshold for “masculine men” is considerably HIGHER in more conservative countries. It seems like a male fantasy to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 12:04 AM
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Go to therapy Go to college or a trade school and involve yourself in a career profession Eat healthy and work out to improve your physical appearance if you’re unhappy with it Find some interests and hobbies that aren’t video games or etc., things that will get you out of the house Move, if you are unhappy in your locale Get more friends and get out of the house more, socialize with mutual friends, build your circle Learn the basics of fashion and hygiene. Beauty is pain sometimes. Learn how to…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 12:00 AM
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No lol there are plenty of bigger girls who are curvy you have no idea what you’re talking about
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 04:44 PM
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I don’t care what you’re into. I’m telling you that you really have no business policing what women call themselves when you’re unfamiliar with the terminology and how it should be used. It’s not incorrect to describe most of the women in the photos as curvy, they have large breasts for THEIR frames, full hips and a tucked in waist for the most part. Similarly, thin women with large breasts, full hips, and a small waist for their frames are curvy. It’s about frame and shape, not weight. Another …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 01:34 AM
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Wrong. Thin women AND fat women can be curvy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 01:28 AM
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This is nowhere near that range lol please
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 01:27 AM
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Highest rates of domestic violence and homophobia are progressive? Huh.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 05:37 AM
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Sounds like a combo of nymphomania, exhibitionism, and/or some iteration of a mental illness related to hypersexuality like a personality disorder, which is… usually caused by trauma. I have never met a woman with a really high body count or a wild sex life who had a totally balanced life in other areas. I’m not saying it’s immoral, I’m just saying that most of the time it is a coping mechanism and ends up being harmful in the long run rather than helpful. There’s no evidence that women were des…
/r/AllPillDebate09/06/23 04:35 AM
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Sure, it’s possible. It’s unlikely, but it’s possible.
/r/AllPillDebate09/06/23 03:43 AM
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With regards to hooking up, women aren’t getting much out of hookups with men except for validation, for one. Women are not biologically designed to be sexually promiscuous. Our programming, so to speak, tells us to be selective and conservative. Behavior that falls outside this is telling of something else, usually trauma. It affects women’s ability to form long-lasting and trusting relationships and I have seen this firsthand; I’m a lesbian. With regards to sex positivity, the liberation and t…
/r/AllPillDebate09/06/23 03:31 AM
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Depends on the feminist and what’s being discussed, but a lot of them do, yep
/r/AllPillDebate09/06/23 03:03 AM
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It’s not a theory that they came up with or that belongs to them, it’s a concept that they have inflated and taken to the furthest extreme because of their personal hangups and resentment, which I’ve mentioned already now. We can’t all be 10/10s. That’s life. Get over it or become a pitiful spectacle.
/r/AllPillDebate09/06/23 03:03 AM
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No, that’s incorrect. Blackpillers’ interpretations of statistics are almost always personal and almost never impartial. The ability to understand and interpret data matters as much as the data itself. For example: Statistics say women prefer attractive men (true, generally) Their interpretation: “Women hate everyone who is not a multimillionaire Chad with an 8 inch cock and are incapable of being attracted to or sustaining relationships with normal men”
/r/AllPillDebate09/06/23 02:58 AM
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Researching only your viewpoint is confirmation bias, not science.
/r/AllPillDebate09/06/23 02:55 AM
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They don’t have any arguments, they have personal hangups and a boatload of resentment
/r/AllPillDebate09/06/23 01:53 AM
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i mean, yeah lol blackpillers are whiny babies and speaking with them is almost never productive
/r/AllPillDebate09/06/23 12:11 AM
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This is not a gendered issue. Most people, regardless of gender/sex and sexual orientation, pick horrible partners for themselves based on stupid superficial reasons.
/r/AllPillDebate09/06/23 12:10 AM
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K
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 09:52 PM
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I never said that it was. I’m disputing your statement that “butch lesbians aren’t attractive.” Men are still very much physically attracted to them and lesbians like butches. You’ve edited your comment now to be clearer but that’s a lot of the reason this shit gets all twisted up in conversations like this. Another point is that butches and twinks (which really isn’t a word for straight ppl to use btw lol) are on the furthest end of the spectrum in either direction for outliers. There are many …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 09:34 PM
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Butch lesbians’ appearance really has nothing to do with their attractiveness to men unless he’s really obsessed with a hyper feminine appearance. It’s the masculine personality traits that are a deterrent. Alllll my butch friends get routinely hit on by men still.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 09:25 PM
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Butch lesbians are attractive to me. There is someone for everyone. Outliers aren’t doing anything wrong by being outliers.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 09:20 PM
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The problem is not saying men and women are different, because they are. The problem is assigning moral inferiority to outliers like masculine women and feminine men. Nobody is 100% anything, people are individuals. It just happens to be that most women lean feminine as most men lean masculine. It’s biology and years of civilization informing each other. A lot of the guys in here who complain about women being big nasty evil witches are much more feminine than they’d like to admit and aren’t up …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 09:15 PM
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Those people are adults and I have no sympathy for them whatsoever. They are not children being taken advantage of.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 08:16 PM
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That’s not what they do. I’m not saying it’s the same as full service sex work, but women who make enough money to support themselves on OF are working more than 40 hours a week. Define “dishonest.” A man created OnlyFans. Foh
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 08:04 PM
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You’re missing the point. I’m aware of that. The point is that if you impregnate someone, you are responsible for that child’s care and welfare as much as their mother. If you don’t make enough money to afford daycare, having a stay at home parent is the logical option, it’s not a luxurious choice the way you’re insinuating it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 03:42 PM
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If it makes money, pretty sure it’s a real job.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 02:55 PM
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You think prostitution isn’t a real job? Guaranteed it is harder and more dangerous than anything you have ever done.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 01:26 PM
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How doesn’t it?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 01:19 PM
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Not really. Women who only see extremely rich clients on their terms and make $$$$ are probably doing fine and might be telling the truth when they say they like their jobs. They’re just not representative of the other 90% who want to stop/exit because it’s all extremely degrading and unlike anything else People’s attitudes about this stuff are all over the place, it’s not a monolith
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 04:37 AM
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From the government, yes. Universal basic income is a need for many, not just SAHPs. From a spouse, I don’t know. Probably there should be some kind of allowance that extends beyond basic necessities depending on the salary being made. There is a lot of potential for financial abuse otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 10:02 PM
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Yes, and so is impregnating someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 10:00 PM
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Yep.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 08:41 PM
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Right, yep. And who created onlyfans? Who runs the majority of commercial porn studios? Who are the majority of people involved in sex and human trafficking? Who are the majority of consumers of this stuff? Who develops parasocial relationships w these women? I’ll give you a hint: it’s men. 90% of prostitutes (who are actually sex workers and putting their lives on the line every day) want to exit. Every porn star who’s exited says it was the worst experience of her life. Women “pretend” these t…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 08:39 PM
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Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 08:33 PM
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Why is it so painful to be rejected by a person you barely know? God damn lol sad
/r/AllPillDebate06/06/23 06:28 PM
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Absolutely right. No orgasms to be gained and a whole lot of physical / emotional risk. Why would we? (except for the ppl who need validation, of course, which is the CHIEF reason some women are all over the place with sexual encounters)
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 06:03 PM
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Men’s fears, especially the ones which are unsubstantiated and based on what THEY (not their wives) would do in any given situation, are irrelevant. If you cannot help living in a fantasy world and being overcome with resentment bc u cannot achieve that fantasy world, that’s mental illness and warrants help from a professional.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 03:22 PM
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Yeah it’s definitely the opposite, but a few blackpillers have been posting here and in other similar subs complaining about lesbians and how they’re “choosing” to steal women. So like.. homophobia and desperate delusion all rolled into one
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 03:18 PM
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“Abuse of men” u mean women having awareness? Doesn’t count as abuse I’m sorry to say! If some of you are statisticians or scientists or researchers, good luck! Otherwise, doesn’t matter. If men show up in family court they’re more likely to win custody. Most of them just don’t show up because they don’t want custody.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 03:05 PM
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Here’s a question: who fucking cares? This is projection. Men want the hottest hotties and leave their wives of decades for younger, more attractive women. Don’t see a lot of women leaving their lazy beergutted husbands for cHaD. It’s literally okay to not be the most attractive person in the world. It’s impossible for everyone to be that. Most of us aren’t. Are you going to let that preclude you from experiencing a relationship? If yes, don’t feel bad for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 12:04 AM
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The imagined “lesbians are stealing all the women” crap I keep seeing around here and similar subs, no doubt As if that is even logistically possible lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 12:00 AM
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Less arousal? The clitoris is a much more sensitive organ than the penis. Men simply don’t know how to fuck. It’s okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 11:17 PM
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Yep. I am a feminist who frequently criticizes the sex positivity movement and hookup culture, particularly for women’s part. Maybe I have noticed its effects more? I only date women and have definitely noticed it negatively affecting sexual relationships with them.
/r/AllPillDebate05/06/23 05:51 AM
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That’s nice!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 05:04 AM
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~1 in 3 college students in a study admitted that they would rape a woman if there were no repercussions, so I think yeah it’s safe to say at least 50% of men have confided in their friends similar desires. My experience isn’t the minority. Women talk to each other. What you’re not getting is that until the majority of men are safe to be around, women will be vigilant and suspect strangers. As a counter to your “some guy somewhere did it once so all men are being blamed,” it’s actually quite the…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 04:25 AM
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Why is it often wrong? What problems do men systemically experience that have been caused by women? I’m not talking about male CEOs. “Majority” also includes most laypeople, and even homeless men are perps of a lot of the same stuff. Their lives being sad doesn’t preclude them from bad behavior and being violent. Homeless women are like 5x more likely to be assaulted than housed women, and they’re certainly less capable of physically defending themselves against threats than men. Women do contri…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 03:28 AM
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What’s the problem with saying men create most of your problems? That is true. What would satisfy you as a response to speaking about your problems on a public forum? What is the damaging behavior that can be tweaked that you’re talking about? How should women go about fixing these things for you? All genuine questions, because I don’t know the answers.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 03:02 AM
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Of course it is. I'm an individual, I have committed no crimes, I have never put myself upon a woman, nor have I cat-called, wolf-whistled, cornered a woman, interfered with a woman without consent or invitation, coerced or manipulated my way to sex, or any of the other many miserable traits commonly applied to men in these discussions. You’re in the minority, and the longer you continue not to understand that, the more alienated you will make women feel. I have a lot of butch friends whose prim…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 02:53 AM
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I can respect that you have an unusual lived experience and still think it doesn’t apply to the majority of men. Again, these extremely individual and personalized concerns are for a therapeutic relationship to address, not a girlfriend or random women on the internet. Men didn’t spearhead the feminist movement, so I’m not sure why women are being expected to stick our necks out trying to fix your problems. a) most of the time they’re not caused by us, and b) we have our own shit to be dealing w…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 02:38 AM
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They’re not projections, they’re things that have actually happened countless times across history by men of all different religions, creeds, colors, ethnicities, and sociopolitical statuses. It’s really not far off base to assume these things also apply to you, because they don’t know you. If something doesn’t apply to you, move along. I don’t freak out when men here call me a “stupid slut” and a “spat on whore” and a “misandrist” (lol) because I know myself and know none of those things apply …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 02:29 AM
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The difference here is that the personal experiences men talk about here are typically not widespread experiences. You guys cannot handle things being discussed in general terms and feeling excluded from being an oppressed class. The hurt feelings are so blinding for you (general you) and cause so much personal strife that you cannot see beyond them and end up thinking this stuff occurs a lot more than it does. “False rape accusations” is one of these things. On the other hand, I’m lucky to not …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 02:05 AM
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95% of the people who beat their partners within an inch of their lives are men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 01:58 AM
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You’re wrong. Women will call themselves lesbians and do this. Happens all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 01:57 AM
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Not so much. Can’t reply to your other comment btw cuz that guy blocked me, but men are very comfortable telling other people what they think, and in a very confident manner, I might add, even when they’re off base. Women are less likely to speak out about something unless they’ve got the goods to back it up, and even when we do, we are still dismissed. Other men are the only people men respect and consider experts.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 01:51 AM
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Men here (and probably everywhere tbh) believe that if they have not personally experienced something, it must not be real and must be something greatly exaggerated by women. They neglect to understand it’s because they simply .. never have to go through a lot of this stuff and thus have no conception of it lmao I’ve had men tell me today that women are just as likely to be perps of sexual violence, that men are just as afraid of being assaulted in public because they aren’t “navy seals,” that t…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 01:14 AM
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Yep lol check this thread out https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/140qvcl/everyone_should_respect_other_peoples_lived/jmwzbfo/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1&context=3
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 12:50 AM
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I think for women it’s both. Most (not all, and I’ll be the first to disagree otherwise) of the things women say here can be supported by peer reviewed journals and statistics, and we care about these things because they hit close to home as well. Some other dude in this thread consistently denies statistics and says they are all misandrists and aren’t telling the truth, so 👩🏻 I do think that civil discussion is really hampered by assumptions and an unwillingness to even TRY to understand the ot…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 11:40 PM
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I don’t work for the Pew Research Center or the University of Tasmania.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 10:55 PM
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I get you. I think the biggest problem here is that the men who claim these things “happen” because of personal experiences with said things are assuming they happen very frequently. Often that is not the case. I think men here are more concerned with how something has made them feel on a personal level and cannot see beyond it; whereas even if I have not been raped, I know that’s happened to most women in my circle and I am the exception.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 10:53 PM
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Other individual differences are also apparent, with males consistently reporting engaging in more emotional manipulation than females (Bacon & Regan, 2016; Grieve & Mahar, 2010; Grieve & Panebianco, 2013; Hyde & Grieve, 2018). Women are much more likely than men to say dating has gotten harder (55% vs. 39%). Black women (62%) are more likely than Hispanic women (50%) to say dating has gotten harder, while 55% of White women say the same. Only 9% of Black women say dating has gotten easier in th…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 10:51 PM
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Your claims are unsubstantiated. Dating is riskier for women and men are more emotionally manipulative. Proof provided.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 10:44 PM
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https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0191886918305282 https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2020/08/20/public-attitudes-about-todays-dating-landscape/ Have fun
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 10:41 PM
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Ok, I’ll concede—the majority of the time, that’s not what happens. Some women here are dishonest about their dating patterns, whether intentionally or not. Most men here are dishonest about male sexual violence toward women (and other men) and systemic misogyny’s impact. First point is regarding a social privilege no one is owed(dating), second point is regarding human rights and general social welfare. It’s a comparison of apples and oranges more often than not.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 10:40 PM
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What’s the truth
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 10:34 PM
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This isn’t what happens. Women correct men when men try to control the narrative with regard to women’s experiences. Men don’t like to be corrected, even if they can easily be proven wrong with studies as well as personal accounts from women. I hear all this talk about how much women victimize themselves, but I actually see way more men here identifying with a victim role/narrative (mostly based on emotion and personal opinion/hearsay rather than any actual data or firsthand experience) and sugg…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 10:34 PM
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Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 10:29 PM
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No empathy. Just complaints.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 10:27 PM
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I understand how that could feel bad, and I’m not minimizing it, especially not for a ten year old. However, for adult males, it’s pretty understandable if you put yourself in women’s shoes for a couple of minutes. My apprehension dials way down (it’s never turned off tho) around men I know well.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 10:21 PM
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Ok, then go fuck men
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 08:40 PM
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Penetration is different than anything else, I’m sorry to say. Penetration is not only mentally and emotionally traumatizing(like all other forms of SV), it can physically damage women (and men, who are raped anally) as well. All sexual violence is bad, but again, men are overwhelmingly the majority of rapists and the majority perpetrators of all other types of sexual violence. There is no study in the world, even in countries where men can legally be victims of rape, which supports the claim th…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 07:56 PM
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It is true. Men are overwhelmingly the majority of perpetrators of sexual violence. Like 90%+. That’s not to say things don’t happen to men, it’s just saying that more likely than not, another man will be the perpetrator.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 07:50 PM
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I’m sure they feel it to an extent, but every man I’ve ever spoken to doesn’t understand why I have a stabber and pepper spray on my keychain, why I don’t walk to my car alone at night after work, why I’m constantly checking over my shoulder if I feel like someone is following me, etc. It’s just not the same. It makes women less likely to trust you if you try to insist that it is. Means you don’t have empathy for another kind of experience and need to do/experience something firsthand to believe…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 07:22 PM
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No it’s not 😂 homosexuality is naturally occurring, it’s just rare. There is a difference between rare and unnatural. Educate yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 07:12 PM
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From women? Nah. Most of the time it’s from other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 07:04 PM
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Yep, still not making any sense. Gonna have to explain your tinfoil hat argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 06:51 PM
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Homosexuality is comparable. Gay men are still men. Lesbians are still women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 06:49 PM
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Idk what you’re talking about. I never mentioned “disposability.” Pls take your personal baggage elsewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 06:49 PM
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Think you mean neuroticism but no it’s not lol 80% of women have been sexually harassed in public, 40% have been inappropriately touched, and around 30% have been stalked or experienced indecent exposure
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 06:48 PM
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Women are not at the top of the food chain in terms of strength and aggression. Males are much more violent, much more aggressive, and much stronger than we are, generally speaking. Being aware of one’s surroundings and being vigilant/considering every male stranger a potential threat is practical, evolutionarily ingrained behavior for women. It would be silly for women to believe that every stranger is harmless and has good intentions when we know, often from personal experiences, that this is …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 06:21 PM
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Nope, it’s because you are male. You don’t have the same self preservation instincts women do. Strangers yelling and pawing at you is not desirable. I feel lonely often. I don’t want strange men leering at me, speaking to me, or groping me in public.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 06:10 PM
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That is because you’re male.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 05:32 PM
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Gawd what a sad person you must be
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 02:11 AM
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Get therapy
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 02:10 AM
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Go back to the blatantly blackpill subs buddy
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 02:05 AM
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Having a job is a normal part of being an adult. Not having one makes it evident that you’re selfish and don’t care about your family’s welfare. Becoming physically incapacitated is usually not a foreseen circumstance. That said, men do leave their sick wives often. It’s been documented many times over. You’re just saying the quiet part out loud. Shock value is nil. Yawn.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 01:59 AM
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Bud, we discuss the looks of female celebs because they’re much more attractive than we will ever be and provide pointers for how to improve our looks. It’s a women only sub. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 12:49 AM
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Sorry, should clarify—that’s mostly in response to the phony “mens rights activism” round here. Their main goals are to dismantle feminism’s progress and return to the status quo. Guaranteed if you enter any MRA forum the majority of the posts will be centered around dating and not being able to get sex. A handful of other posts might be about male suicide rates being higher than women’s, but that’s typically only mentioned when a woman talks about poor mental health. It’s not a productive movem…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 12:43 AM
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Nah, won’t work, sorry. I only discuss feminist theory in detail with educated feminists. If you think feminism is for men, you cannot count yourself part of that group. Make your own movement and leave the desire to control and objectify women out of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 12:37 AM
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I can understand why men have a problem with feminism. Not caring that they have a problem with it is a separate issue. I’m not really sure why I should prioritize men’s desire to oppress women over women’s desire to be liberated. I’m sure you’ll turn it around and say it’s the same for the opposite, but it really isn’t, because men are not being slighted by women gaining more agency. An inconvenience or losing a certain privilege that was immoral and never actually earned is not the same thing …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 12:35 AM
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Feminism is for women. If men benefit tangentially from it, fine. You need to look up and understand the different feminist theories before we can discuss this(which can take years). Only liberal feminism, which is the repackaged misogyny that’s mainstream rn, tries to say that feminism is for men. All the feminist activists of the past who actually accomplished things and changed the world did not care about what men thought of their activism.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 12:23 AM
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How have they been uncool to you, though? If people are shitty to you because of your trans status, it really has nothing to do with sexism and like everything to do with that
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 11:01 PM
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Women still aren’t liberated. Sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 10:54 PM
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Traditional gender norms such as what? Too vague.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 10:45 PM
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What do you think “casual bigotry that affects you” is? I’m sure we have different ideas of what constitutes bigotry.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 10:45 PM
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I have never said feminism is for men. Anyone who says that is full of people-pleasing shit. Feminism is meant to combat the oppressive systems men have created by introducing better laws and creating support systems for women. Women are the ones being primarily affected. If it helps men in a tangential way, fine; but that’s not the focus and it’s pretty hilarious that men believe it should be. What sort of things are you talking about, then? 2-3 examples would be great.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 10:26 PM
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No, wrong. Men vote those people into office and continue perpetuating these systems because the systems benefit them. One person can’t do everything. They have to have support.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 10:24 PM
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Men created oppressive systems, yes. There is zero evidence otherwise. It shows up in their sociopolitical beliefs, how they vote, and their actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 10:04 PM
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I mean, seems like that’s a you problem? Feminism is by and for women. It’s kinda in the name. It certainly didn’t present women with more issues, and I’m certain it didn’t present men with more “issues” apart from having to check their entitlement. To your other point, depends what you’re advocating for. If you’re advocating for restricting medical care for women, making excuses for violent men, and advocating for treating other people like objects, yep, that’ll upset women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 10:03 PM
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Ehhh. Nah. It’s not really our responsibility to fix this or to feel sorry for the people who created these systems and continue to oppress us with them. Men can do what feminists did and get off their asses and work for change.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 09:09 PM
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Lmao
/r/AllPillDebate03/06/23 05:39 PM
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Wasn’t necessarily just talking about colleges and universities. We’re talking about raising families in this thread
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 04:56 AM
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Abortion has been illegal for a whole year in Texas, bud. That is a hostile place to live. Any coastal state would mostly be fine, except for Florida / Georgia and etc. There are other states in the middle of the country that would be reasonably good to live in, Nevada, Utah, Colorado, Illinois, etc. but no, I’m not interested in living in a state that thinks I shouldn’t have medical agency where my own body is concerned.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 09:55 PM
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Are the laws in Texas friendly to women, poor people, and gay people? Cmon now.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 09:35 PM
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It means anywhere that has a decent education system, things to do, career opportunities, no food deserts, decent politics that aren’t oppressive
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 09:32 PM
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My libido is very high, and I’m not demisexual. None of them were what I would call unattractive, but I’m not a 10/10 so neither were they. Mostly normal looking people.
/r/AllPillDebate02/06/23 09:04 PM
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I’m not attracted to men, buddy. You’re barking up the wrong tree. I’ve been truly sexually attracted to maybe about 5 people in my life and usually that was informed by other qualities of theirs.
/r/AllPillDebate02/06/23 08:59 PM
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Attractive women have high standards, yes. I do not believe that every woman wants a multimillionaire Chad with an 8 inch dick. Most of the people I see on the street are very normal looking couples. Super attractive people are rare.
/r/AllPillDebate02/06/23 08:55 PM
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They are barely real sorry. There are some things women care about, but men are not nearly as intensely scrutinized as women in regular life by BOTH men AND other women. Completely different ballpark. I’m disinterested in speaking any further about it.
/r/AllPillDebate02/06/23 08:41 PM
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The median is poverty. $80k is not enough to support a family anywhere worth living.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 08:40 PM
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Yep. It is all about proximity. It is true that educated ppl tend to marry each other, but I’m guessing that is also… about proximity.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 08:39 PM
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He needs a haircut and better clothing. He has excellent bone structure and nice features. “Male beauty standards” lol
/r/AllPillDebate02/06/23 08:26 PM
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They’re boring and simple
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 08:22 PM
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Pretty much, yes.
/r/AllPillDebate31/05/23 06:41 PM
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“No one would care if she’s broke” There was a thread in here the other day full of men complaining that welfare and government benefits exist and are supporting mothers with children 💀
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 03:08 PM
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Lol nope, wrong on all counts Every woman is different and responds differently to stimulation. The clitoris is a much more sensitive organ than the penis. Lesbians actually care about making their partners orgasm (would know, am a lesbian). Women hold their female partners to even higher standards than male partners. Almost all of my friends stay in relationships with men who aren’t making them cum even 50% of the time, and that’s not even addressing any other category that men consistently fal…
/r/AllPillDebate31/05/23 02:51 PM
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Ctfu one eyed deaf paraplegics People IN THIS SUB have complained that women are unwilling to date “disfigured men” and in the same breath have said “but I deserve a normal gf, I shouldn’t just be limited to other disfigured people” Not kidding
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 02:46 PM
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No it’s not lol men are terrible at following directions in bed Why is the orgasm gap much less significant with lesbian couples
/r/AllPillDebate31/05/23 02:44 PM
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Look up the orgasm gap Case closed
/r/AllPillDebate31/05/23 01:36 PM
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And this is immediately where they lose me. The default assumption that our looks standards aren't already broad or diverse. Or the assumption that we can force ourselves to be attracted to people if we do have a type. All of that
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 04:28 AM
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Yep.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 04:27 AM
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Because men don’t like hearing that most of them are terrible in bed
/r/AllPillDebate31/05/23 12:31 AM
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https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6318556/#:~:text=For%20many%20years%2C%20researchers%20have,been%20widely%20accepted%20%5B1%5D. https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0956797615586979 https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/behavioral-and-brain-sciences/article/abs/does-sexual-selection-explain-human-sex-differences-in-aggression/8C918A2FDAA8C234BFB192F282BF3F27 https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1359178918301666 Knock yourself out
/r/AllPillDebate30/05/23 10:21 PM
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Because of evolution lol if you’re familiar at all with evolutionary biology it’s pretty self explanatory I don’t feel like I should have to link studies to something as basic as this
/r/AllPillDebate30/05/23 09:39 PM
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If they’re having repeated bad experiences, don’t you think it might be a them problem? Have they considered there’s a reason they’re continuously being rejected? It has nothing to do with bad experiences or “brutal” rejections. It has to do with entitlement. Men who feel entitled to women’s attention and bodies are always going to get angry when they’re rejected, because they believe they deserve unadulterated access to another person. People are not objects. That said, there’s a lid for every …
/r/AllPillDebate30/05/23 06:44 PM
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I can: Men openly admit to wanting to rape women. Laws are safeguards. Men have no problem murdering people with abandon. Laws are safeguards. Men have no problem controlling and monopolizing women like they are objects. Laws are safeguards. Before you freak out, no, not ALL MEN, but a lot of them. Men’s biology lends itself to this. It takes consistently choosing not to be this way to go against the grain, and I think as a society we’ve reasonably reached that point.
/r/AllPillDebate30/05/23 04:20 PM
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Easily answered: birth control and legal abortion
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 05:50 AM
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people absolutely do wake up misogynistic and history is plenty proof of that society is only moderately protected from the plot of the purge becoming a reality because of modern laws and protections that require it—some of which are already scaling back as we speak it’s not my job to tell you why you hate women, it’s your job to figure it out and fix it—because the reasons i hear: “they won’t go out with me, waaah they won’t have sex with me” they’re just simply not making the cut underneath th…
/r/AllPillDebate30/05/23 05:35 AM
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💀
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 04:39 AM
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Wow it’s like you didn’t read my comment at all Go crunch some numbers and figure out how many bills have been introduced and how many laws have been passed by men in the last 75 years
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 04:21 AM
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This post is so stupid lol the fertility rate is going down because powerful men have ruined the economy and fucked us all over so badly that a lot of “normal people” can’t AFFORD kids anymore Interesting that you all moan about how women control the dating scene and then try to say it’s impossible for average women to get a husband and kids
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 04:15 AM
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tbh this sub is overrun with incels who are too far gone to ever be able to go on a date without displaying extreme degrees of entitlement and resentment that’s why all these men are a lost cause, it’s not because they’re repulsive and ugly or because they’re autistic lol it’s literally just that they hate women and still weirdly feel entitled to their attention and their bodies in spite of it all of em need therapy
/r/AllPillDebate30/05/23 04:07 AM
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Oh boy Looks do not matter as much to women as they do to men so this gets convoluted bc you get a bunch of men projecting They matter, but they are not the ONLY piece that matters. Attraction is significantly more complex for women. Your personality definitely matters and it can absolutely be a deciding factor. Most men on this sub underestimate how bad their social skills are and overestimate how good looking they are. Do what you want with that info. Also, of course women can enjoy sex 😭 ther…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 03:50 AM
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wow you’re literally a psycho
/r/AllPillDebate29/05/23 03:34 AM
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Misandry’s not real so that’s probably ur first problem interacting with women 😩 Boogeymen aren’t created by women, men do all that by themselves. I cannot believe my eyes, every single time I debate with someone here they always circle back to this draconian nonsense about believing they’re entitled to a relationship or sex just because they’re “better” than other men women find themselves attracted to. If men get mad at women for not being attracted to them, they have significantly larger issu…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 01:32 PM
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Not all autistic men are like that. Most of the ones here are. It’s relevant to the sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 01:26 PM
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Didn’t say any of that, but you continue inventing your fantasy narrative
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 01:25 PM
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Nah man, I’m telling you, most of the women I’m friends with are easily 7/10s and up and their boyfriends all look like Just Some Guy. It happens all of the time. Women are not wired the same way men are, a lot of things influence our attraction to a person and not all of them are physical.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 04:43 AM
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They feel like their efforts are wasted because they are entitled. I know it’s usually a lazy argument that’s brought up here and elsewhere, but they really do act like they’re owed something just for being nice. I agree that no one should lie about attraction. I don’t particularly think women should keep friends who are male and attracted to them once that information has been revealed, but I’m sure I’m in the minority there. It never seems to go well and they sometimes do interpret that as bei…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 04:16 AM
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Noticing and choosing to ignore can both happen, though, and I think that’s where we disagree. There are plenty of objectively ugly men that women find very hot. It’s not all about conventionality.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 04:12 AM
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and may he burn in hell
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 03:54 AM
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The difference is that the toxic men usually have some positive qualities sprinkled in that draw women in—humor, charisma, being good in bed, being stylish, being a more masculine/dominant personality, etc. I’m not saying it’s right, I’m just saying. I do agree to an extent that some women get kinda Stockholm syndrome with guys they think are super hot and have chemistry with, but that’s just the way the cookie crumbles. People like who they like and make excuses for them. There’s not really a f…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 03:48 AM
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They do those nice things initially, yes. Usually it does not go well if they are told no. Fine line between men who expect to be rewarded for being a decent human being and an incel. Both of these types of men are entitled. Being attractive and extroverted helps, but you don’t have to be those things to get women to respect you. Plenty of introverted men are rolling in pussy. Introversion =/= complete lack of social skills
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 03:33 AM
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It’s easier to fool people when you’re charismatic and fun to be around. Not so much when you’re ragey, entitled, spergy and resentful.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 03:25 AM
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Raping someone isn’t an action?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 03:23 AM
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💀 calm down lmao I care very much for the people I date, I just don’t expect them to fix MY problems and to be the sole source of my happiness and contentment, let alone to teach me basic social skills
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 06:33 PM
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What you are describing is codependence, not caring. People should stop requiring women they’re interested in dating to be their girlfriends, mothers, and therapists. Maintenance of your own emotional state is your responsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 05:56 PM
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No, you’re not understanding. It’s an unreasonable expectation for anyone to have.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 03:20 PM
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those things aren’t mutually exclusive! yikes
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 03:18 PM
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This is an unreasonable expectation to have of other people. No one can fix or save you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 06:33 AM
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Ok, fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 05:41 AM
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I do not see history as simply the oppression of women by men In most circumstances, especially at the bottom of the food chain/caste system, that’s all it is. The richer people are, the less it tends to matter. That holds now, too. I get what you’re saying, but I disagree. Statistics are a good way to disprove that. Laws and evolving environments change nothing, as I said, they only curtail. If these protections were to be removed (such as abortion rights in certain states, which is causing a p…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 05:22 AM
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The “gender roles system” was created over millennia by biology and BOTH men and women informed it. Laws and civilized conduct are modern society’s way of curtailing the violent and oppressive parts of male nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 04:46 AM
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Men and women created one another and shaped gender roles. It’s not all women’s fault that these social norms and expectations exist. Feminism isn’t incompatible with desiring a traditional feminine role within a relationship, because theoretically, both parties are consenting to the dynamic that is happening. Not really seeing how it’s a “negative” gender role if most men are enjoying it
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 04:09 AM
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Have you considered asking yourself why you resent paying for things for women you theoretically like and are trying to impress?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 03:26 AM
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No, it’s just courtesy. Not everything has to be a transaction. Some people enjoy treating others and being generous. Women don’t like stinginess.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 02:49 AM
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yyyyyyep
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 02:08 AM
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Asking for “equal pay” when you undoubtedly asked a woman on a date is bad form, especially when in the initial dating stages. If I do the asking out, I pay. In a committed relationship going Dutch is much less of a social faux pas, but when dating? Good luck lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 02:06 AM
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Men who want to be the prize and have everything paid for are feminine and in denial about it Can’t expect to be treated like a masculine man when you aren’t one. Masculine men don’t resent paying for women, complimenting her looks, being a protector/provider, etc. and that’s why “average” men who aren’t jealous and bitter end up in relationships. guaranteed these guys’ lack of success is due to their attitudes, their personalities, or a combination of both, and you’re absolutely right that wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 02:04 AM
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Not necessarily. A lot of them will not, though. Just about finding someone who’s a good match and willing to fill a more masculine role in your relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 11:58 PM
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No it hasn’t, as explained in my comments. Context is important. The biggest gap in taxpaying is during women’s child rearing years. Working around the clock would be close to $200k salary per year. That is free labor, considering those kids belong to the men paying taxes, too, not just the women. Also, like I said, that study only covers NZ. Not comprehensive.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 08:35 PM
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Then what is the argument? Men orgasm every time with casual sex, so it makes a lot of sense that they’d enjoy it and seek it out. As I just explained to you, the same is not true for women, plus there are increased risks in many areas.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 02:56 PM
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It’s not strange, it’s just feminine.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 05:49 AM
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That is not a source, it’s an infographic that was made by an MRA. The link is broken and unavailable. It also only addresses New Zealand so that’s not exactly comprehensive. Look up the pink tax. Would also be helpful if you understood how married filing jointly households affect women, who are usually the secondary earners. Not to mention that there’s a pay gap and that a lot of men in married couples don’t want their wives to work. We pay taxes to send you boys off to war too, and that’s 75% …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 03:36 AM
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Source
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 03:15 AM
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I agree. Blackpill men want to be doted on and adored the way masculine men dote on and adore women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 03:11 AM
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Oh please. Women pay taxes to support all the men in jail for violent crimes, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 03:08 AM
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Guaranteed they don’t enjoy it. It’s tough for men to make their monogamous partners orgasm, let alone casual or one time partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 01:18 AM
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Nah people who don’t have feelings for animals are low in empathy in general
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 08:44 PM
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Yep
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 02:57 PM
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Nope. Are women who become sexually aroused during a sexual assault attracted to those men, too? What your body is doing is very separate from subjective attraction. That study doesn’t mean what you think it means. You’re trying too hard to make something true that isn’t.
/r/AllPillDebate25/05/23 02:57 PM
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He has to INITIALLY do more, yes, and I don’t see why that’s cause for complaint, either. It’s for a short period. After a relationship begins, the woman in the relationship is the social glue. Nobody is expecting men to hold relationships together socially.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 02:55 PM
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That’s because you don’t experience men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 02:54 PM
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No one says they don’t pursue attractive men. Women say that they also entertain regular guys and aren’t believed. The biggest reason for the “swiping difference” is that men and women do it differently to start with: every man I’ve noticed swipes on ALL women to see who matches with him, THEN filters, THEN sends messages to the most attractive women. Women do not swipe right on people they wouldn’t be interested in to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 02:53 PM
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A 6 or a 7 can easily be hot. You don’t really get into visibly unattractive territory until sub-4.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 03:45 AM
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How much is a lot of money? Good looking in one of the most populous cities in the world doesn’t mean much.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 03:18 AM
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No, sorry. Women have casual sex to 1. experience validation, not pleasure, and 2. to cope with previous traumatic wounds that have not been addressed. It’s not about the sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 02:46 AM
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I am much prettier than most lesbians. It’s not an issue of that. I’m not attracted to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 02:32 AM
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Who said she ended the relationship? She still hits me up on a regular basis. You’re making yourself look stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 02:29 AM
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Lmfao. I don’t date men 😭😂 I slept with a person I was in a committed relationship with.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 02:20 AM
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No it doesn’t. Why do you keep ignoring this part? Again, if it’s so much a choice, go and sleep with other men. In what way is it hurting you that lesbians are existing and going about their business? Do you harbor the same entitlement and resentment toward gay men?
/r/AllPillDebate25/05/23 02:19 AM
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Because their emotions are logical, of course!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 02:17 AM
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Agreed. I would rather be single than waste time with anyone who isn’t both.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 02:16 AM
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Because people are immature. Having feelings for someone and being attracted to them doesn’t mean they will be a good match. That is the baseline for continuing to go on dates and getting to know each other, not for starting a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 02:15 AM
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You clearly believe this is a problem, so what is the solution to the problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 02:09 AM
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Lol. I’ve only slept with one person. Please take your personal baggage elsewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 02:09 AM
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I don’t buy it. Men become deeply offended when a woman is not attracted to them and can’t really cope with it. Women are used to being denigrated and criticized with regard to looks. You don’t hear about women being rejected as much because 1. Women can read the room better and don’t bulldoze their way in where they aren’t wanted, and 2. They don’t incessantly complain about it afterward.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 02:05 AM
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Sexual fluidity doesn’t mean that it’s chosen. Like at all. It means that women have varying response patterns (usually bisexual ones) when presented with stimuli, but that doesn’t mean they will choose to act on any of those patterns regardless of sexuality. Not really sure why you interpreted “fluidity” as “conscious choice to spite men.” Again, if it’s so much a choice, go and sleep with other men. Lesbian women were never an option to you, so you’re not “losing” out on anything. In bisexual …
/r/AllPillDebate25/05/23 02:03 AM
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I think it’s pretty unreasonable to openly resent and hate women and still expect sex, don’t you?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 01:08 AM
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There are many celebrities who are average looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 01:02 AM
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Women don’t want casual sex lol they don’t benefit from it. Casual sex is only beneficial to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 12:59 AM
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There are women who are 6s and 7s in Hollywood. Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 12:58 AM
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Experience failing with women? Or experience actually dating women?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 12:56 AM
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So do you want a woman to swipe right on you if she isn’t attracted to you? Or what?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 12:55 AM
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Woof lol yep
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 12:54 AM
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No it’s not. Source please. If it’s a choice, go fuck other men.
/r/AllPillDebate24/05/23 10:17 PM
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Why are you assuming that women are feminists because of things they want changed within romantic relationships? “So many women” are not bisexual or lesbian now, and 90% of bisexuals end up with men as it is. That has actually changed in men’s favor from previous years where it was a smidge more balanced. Sexuality is not a choice. Very astounding that you think being angry at someone for being gay is a legitimate viewpoint to have.
/r/AllPillDebate24/05/23 10:05 PM
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“No choice” Lmao laughable
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 03:21 PM
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There are a lot of things that can’t be read or interpreted online too, and I think that hurts ND/very unsuccessful people in dating. Very important to develop a social network with similarly minded people and meet other people who like to do the same things. It’s really an advantage to get in front of as many people as you can to give yourself a fair shot and also to practice these social skills. There is a need present in society for greater awareness of neurodivergence and not to be an asshol…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 06:56 AM
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Why are men the default for regular people? Women are regular people too, that doesn’t change just because you can’t understand how they communicate and refuse to put in the effort. Dating used to be a whole process, “games” included, and to my knowledge those men never complained things were taking too long or that communication wasn’t clear enough. If you mean that you have an issue with a woman wanting to be treated like a human being before she puts out when you say “games,” then yeah, you’l…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 06:45 AM
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You cannot talk to women the way you talk to other men and expect results. Women being different than men is not a “game,” it’s biology.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 12:09 AM
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I assure you that women can tell you believe normal social interaction is “bullshit” and a “headache.” Maybe start there.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 10:44 PM
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Women don’t want you to cold approach them in public. That doesn’t mean they are opposed to every man approaching them in every situation. Social skills are important. Being able to read the room and understand green lights in social situations is important. There’s also a huge difference between approaching specifically to ask someone out or hit on them and approaching them to start a conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 10:40 PM
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It’s misogynistic to expect people to date you, it’s not misogynistic to notice a disadvantage. I have never seen a woman say that.
/r/AllPillDebate23/05/23 10:20 PM
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Stop wasting your time with people you think are hot if you don’t have anything else in common. Looks fade.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 06:20 PM
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What kind of stuff do women call discrimination that you believe doesn’t qualify? Just curious—because every MRA I’ve spoken to thinks not getting dates or sex and women being fearful of them in public counts as hatred or “misandry.”
/r/AllPillDebate23/05/23 05:31 PM
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If you think misandry is real, sure, but people who live in reality know that is not true
/r/AllPillDebate23/05/23 04:04 PM
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I wouldn’t call incel culture being mainstream zero effect and it’s definitely not just a “few guys” lol
/r/AllPillDebate23/05/23 04:00 PM
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we would say it’s misandry any time there was criticism You guys already do this
/r/AllPillDebate22/05/23 11:01 PM
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It’s called the halo effect. It makes women more attractive, generally speaking, too.
/r/AllPillDebate22/05/23 07:36 PM
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Yes it’s a wonder they’re angry lol. Sociopaths? Do you mean men with charisma? Sociopaths are a pretty small percentage of the population. If it’s so impossible for normal people to get a girlfriend, why are so many unattractive men in relationships? Of course women will find more attractive men….. more attractive. That doesn’t change a whole lot in the grand scheme of things because those attractive men are only so abundant in number as you’ve pointed out.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 02:57 PM
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Women’s standards being higher benefits women. I’m not really sure why we should go back to the way things were just because it would be more convenient for men who are disinterested in self improvement. I get that it’s a bummer to have to work hard for something that used to be “given” to men as a default but times change. You’re not going to find a whole lot of women who will have sympathy for “I wish I could be far less compelling, attractive, and financially independent and still get a girlf…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 12:57 PM
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The women YOU want might want a masculine man. Not everyone gets a conventional, 10/10 woman. That’s okay. You need to find another weird person with weird interests like your own. Not everyone gets Salma Hayek and that’s not ruining your life, I’m sorry to say!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 12:49 PM
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Really? Are you a lesbian? 🤭 can u explain why that is?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 12:48 PM
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Regarding what exactly? I’m happy to answer if you can clarify what you mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 05:48 AM
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Women had lower standards then because they had pretty limited agency. Can’t really compare.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 04:09 AM
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Can you buy a house and afford to support a family like men could in 1960? Were a large proportion of men developing premature ED and watching porn compulsively in the 1960s? What was the rate of obesity in the 1960s? Was no-fault divorce an option for women in the 1960s? Did men expect sex on the first or second date in the 1960s?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 02:45 AM
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💀
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 12:56 AM
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You’re absolutely right!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 12:43 AM
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Logic is nowhere to be found unfortunately. Men here scream and yell about things that don’t happen (or happen rarely), complain that a dude making 35k a year can’t get a 10/10 woman, and refute any source women happen to provide regarding any topic. It’s really unproductive. I know that insulting men doesn’t help them to be better people, but even having a logically ironclad argument (that they happen not to like) is not enough to get them to be self aware. I understand why so many women are re…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 12:31 AM
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They don’t care. They want what they want/who they want, when they want it. They believe not getting what they want is prejudice or “misandry.” Most of these same guys will try to argue that relationships and sex are basic life necessities.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 08:59 PM
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What’s stopped me is that getting matches and even going on dates with women doesn’t mean they will be a match in actuality. I refuse to date placeholders. Most lesbians have a history with men, 1/4 of them have fucked a man in the last year, we don’t always have similar values, and I like masculine women most often who comprise the smallest portion of the lesbian community. Lesbians also account for about .8% of the population, and I don’t date bisexual women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 08:38 PM
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Well, I’m a lesbian, and dating as a lesbian is significantly harder than dating as a straight man. The odds I will find a suitable partner are significantly less than the odds that you will, and I (for the most part) am a pretty charismatic person with my shit together. It’s not easy for me to insert myself with strangers either. It takes practice.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 08:16 PM
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Plus women look way better with extra weight than men lolol
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 08:12 PM
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Why are you only considering appearance? If that’s the only thing you care about with regards to women, just say that. Women are much more complex. We don’t only factor in appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 08:11 PM
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This is it
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 07:25 PM
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Feminine interests will help you meet women, not hamper your efforts. I don’t go out and socialize because I prefer being single and am happy without a partner. I will only enter into a relationship with someone who is a good fit. When I’m actively trying, it takes me less than a week to get a date.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 07:25 PM
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Go and socialize. Get a hobby. Meet similarly minded women there.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 06:12 PM
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Why do random women owe you a relationship to let you practice? Sorry, but EVERYONE cares more about their own well-being than making a martyrial sacrifice for a stranger, especially when the benefits given to the stranger are nonessential and often hugely laborious.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 06:10 PM
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Female sexuality is very complex, it’s all very interesting to think about.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 05:34 PM
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I didn’t ask about harassment, I asked about assault. Two separate things. Regardless, acting like every male you meet is a predator until proven otherwise is not only inaccurate but also incredibly toxic. It’s no way to behave. In what way is “acting” like men are POTENTIAL predators harming you? What sort of behavior are you trying to describe? Flinching? Staring apprehensively? Moving to the other side of the street? Being fearful is not hatred, especially since every single woman I know has …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 05:31 PM
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If you’re correct, it should be easy to find a real source instead of an op-ed
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 05:19 PM
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I hate to be crass, but a real dick feels better than a dildo and most bisexual women are not interested in topping. They will try to make even feminine women play a masculine role in and out of the bedroom. I gave one gf the first orgasm she’d ever experienced during sex and she abandoned me for a guy who ended up physically and sexually abusing her—she stayed with him for longer than she stayed with me. It’s not really about the physical sensations feeling better or worse, it’s about biology, …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 05:18 PM
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Opinion editorials are not educational material
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 05:11 PM
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What percentage of women would you estimate are sexually assaulted in a public place? Just curious.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 05:11 PM
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That’s an op Ed which means it doesn’t count as a source, sorry
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 05:06 PM
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I’m a lesbian girl lol I’m not your enemy Bi women prefer men because they like sex with men, they want a normal life, they want to have children, and they don’t want to be “the man” in the relationship. It’s not a bad thing. You should check out the Pew Research study on this, it’s very interesting! It’s the largest, most comprehensive study that’s been done on American lgbt demographics. Also, as an aside, my personal experiences don’t matter in terms of assessing general trends, but I’m a far…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 05:04 PM
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What have I done that’s been hateful? Pray tell!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 04:58 PM
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It’s this
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 04:47 PM
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Thank you for being reasonable LOL honestly one of the only intelligent people on this sub anymore
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 04:45 PM
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This guy (OP) has been following me around for days, misquoting me, misinterpreting me, making multiple posts about the things I’ve said (this one I assume is because I said my best friend is male, lol), and insisting that personal experiences are more absolute than published studies and statistics. Ask me anything!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 04:44 PM
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Most of this is great, but you’re wrong on one point and it’s that bi women dating men is a simple issue of supply and demand. Most bisexual women I’ve met are even more obsessed with men than straight women are and when surveyed, they end up with AND prefer them more strongly. It’s not hard to figure out why.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 04:43 PM
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T h i s is the one. Men refuse to be self aware or go to therapy and complain that using exactly the same tactics, quips, etc. isn’t working.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 02:34 AM
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No, you literally did not answer my question and now you’re following me around. Answer: how should women respond to misogyny if speaking about our experiences and being fearful are not rational responses? What would be an acceptable response? One guy who agreed with your other post said a woman being fearful of him at a gas station was hateful and on the same level as a man routinely abusing and assaulting a woman. LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 11:16 PM
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We’ve been through this spiritualblob! You still can’t answer what a rational response to misogyny is. Put up or shut up
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 11:06 PM
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I’ll do that when men learn to stop speaking for women and belittling women’s experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 11:01 PM
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I don’t say anything to men about their appearances unless they are derogatory toward women. Speak for yourself. You are going way off on a tangent that is completely unrelated to what I’m saying. Men harassing and critiquing women who happen to not be their type is completely unacceptable. I do not care how men perceive me, I want them to leave me the fuck alone. It’s pretty simple stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 09:50 PM
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Dude, it’s everywhere. You just don’t have any clue what it’s like. Men fundamentally cannot understand the extent of criticism women experience for even physical features they cannot help. Weight is the favorite one for sure but beauty standards for women are extremely pervasive. Just because YOU haven’t noticed it doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist where you are. It does.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 09:11 PM
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Work, school, home environment, having to be out in public—these are not things that can necessarily be changed. Stop.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 09:01 PM
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You are literally delusional and have no idea what kind of criticism women are met with on a regular basis. Absolutely zero inkling.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 05:59 PM
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Have you ever opened a book in your life? Just curious.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 04:07 AM
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What are you talking about… Aren’t you blaming women for misogyny? Who is responsible for misandry, then?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 03:41 AM
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what personal failings? can you explain which things or actions are personal failings? you believe that women should never talk about misogyny? very interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 03:20 AM
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you are misunderstanding if misogyny exists, which it does—what, in your view, would be a rational response to it? if being afraid and talking about our experiences is hatred and unacceptable, what is an acceptable response?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 02:40 AM
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“misandry” is a reaction to established oppression, it is not oppression i am aware that telling men this does not make them amenable to being better people, but what will? how do we combat intimate partner violence and sexual assault? why is it unreasonable for women to be afraid of men in light of these things? additionally, how should women respond to misogyny? i would like to know what men think the appropriate response is. clearly you are unhappy with women speaking up about their experienc…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 01:39 AM
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They believe any amount of baseline privilege being shifted or “taken” from them is the same thing as experiencing centuries worth of violence and abuse from the male sex. It’s actually laughable.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 01:35 AM
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Yeah I’m sure that’s the reason you mentioned it Hot young women aren’t into your 38 year old beer belly either
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 09:53 PM
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No one said anything about weight, but this is a great illustration that men believe there are two types of women: hot ones and smart ones
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 09:50 PM
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Nah, most het couples I know aren’t happy because they pick the wrong people for the wrong reasons. Age is irrelevant. ETA that it doesn’t help men are completely unwilling to entertain therapy and working on themselves most of the time
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 09:27 PM
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“Misandry” lol clown town over here I had proof. You didn’t Men say they like smart women, but it’s a theoretical preference only. They polled the men beforehand and when they polled them after speaking to real live women, significantly fewer men wanted to date the smarter women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 08:18 PM
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The best reassurances are actions. If she’s drawing parallels between you and an ex there’s probably a reason and she needs to heal, go to therapy, and pick men that better suit her needs
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 08:02 PM
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oh sure, even if it was your friend of 15 years and all the woman had were “assertions and anecdotes?”
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 07:58 PM
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500 people is a perfectly fine sample size. You have a faulty understanding of the way statistics work if you don’t even know what kind of sample size is appropriate That’s just one study, there are plenty more
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 07:30 PM
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Men are aware, they just don’t care. I have seen the way men talk to each other in private. It’s a mask off moment
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 07:29 PM
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no there’s not lol there is no proof for that. 50 years ago maybe. Not now. QAnon being mainstream is a perfect example of this Anyone who prioritizes fiscal politics over social politics and human rights is not someone I would want to associate w
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 07:28 PM
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…. They are real…… Why on earth would you think that personal anecdotes hold more water than published studies lmfao
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 05:49 PM
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I have evidence. I already linked it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 04:52 PM
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Those examples mean nothing because they are not statistics or facts, they’re anecdotes and personal experiences lol I have never been in a relationship with a man, I’ve never slept with one. Not really sure why you’re infantilizing me and making it seem like I’m a bird with a broken wing just because I disagree that men love competent, intelligent women who don’t need them. You are statistically incorrect. Men like these things in theory but not in practice. https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 04:50 PM
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Herein 1/16 men are rapists(and these are just completed rape stats btw not attempts), 13% are physically abusive, 35% are emotionally abusive. 1% of men abuse their partners DAILY. They also hold much more discriminatory attitudes toward gay people than heterosexual women do and vote Republican (and for ppl like Trump) more consistently https://injuryprevention.bmj.com/content/11/3/180#:~:text=Approximately%201%25%20of%20men%20emotionally,or%20both%20(table%202). https://www.pewresearch.org/pol…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 04:46 PM
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btw personal experiences and examples are not a representation of the whole population and it’s very funny that you think young women can take advantage of older men who are already completely financially independent lol educated people tend to prefer to date other educated people, but only half the usa has college degrees and it’s around 20% or less for an advanced degree. men don’t like it when women are smarter than THEM. maybe they don’t want to date someone as dumb as a stump, but they real…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 04:28 PM
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Young women can be and absolutely are cornered. They just have to like something about you first. If there’s nothing that’s likable….
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 04:25 PM
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unga bunga
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 03:03 PM
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Doubt it LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 03:02 PM
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I’m not suppressing anything. I’m very aware of what I’m saying. Being aware of who men are and what they do is not hating them as individuals, but probably as a collective I’m pretty wary of their antics. “You hate men” is definitely the narrative you guys will peddle tho because it upsets you when someone isn’t naive and impressionable. Women have their own issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 03:01 PM
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Yes, statistics
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 06:50 AM
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bitchiness = expecting anything but the absolute bare minimum, no doubt
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 06:26 AM
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nah you are, you just happen to also be cavemen the idea is that your relationships in your youth should teach you something. if you’re incapable of being attracted to women your own age, it says a lot more about you than it does them. it really just means you’re very immature and neglected to grow up while everyone else was working on themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 05:31 AM
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“Claiming” to feel connected lmao I’m dead. The second anyone tries to tell me to get rid of my cats they’re out the damn door, trust and believe that They are more important to me, they were here first, and I committed to take care of them for the rest of their lives. Anyone who hates animals that carry such significance in my life will be a bad fit for me and probably a bad person, considering that there’s no reason to oppose them being around. My home is immaculately kept and cleaned daily.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 05:10 AM
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Absolutely not Women are not blindly loyal to other women the way men are to their friends. Chances are, men have at least one friend who’s a rapist, an abuser, a racist, a homophobe, etc. and all these things are overlooked because “aw yeah, he’s a good guy, good buddy.” Ever wonder why the military and the police force are the way they are? Ever hear the phrase “good old boys club?” Cmon now. Sure women prop each other up and cheer each other on in vapid ways like that, but they’re not coverin…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 04:59 AM
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Men are intimidated by strong, intelligent women because they aren’t naive and they are very aware that men follow their dicks and would to the ends of the earth. They also don’t like feeling like someone knows more or is more competent/capable so it’s not a positive attribute to them if a woman is wicked intelligent Women with less experience are easier to manipulate and corner into a situation they’re less likely to be able to claw out of and they are also much easier to impress. It’s all very…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 04:27 AM
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Glad to hear it but it’s really not like a moral failing on your part if someone doesn’t find you attractive. It’s just life. I think too that men are just now beginning to realize, to a TINY extent, what women go through with regards to looks. We are able to take criticism and rejection based on looks better bc we’ve grown up hearing horrible nasty things from BOTH men and women. The standards are impossible to keep up with.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 12:54 AM
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They have a very hard time when they aren’t fitting a woman’s personal preferences. They freak out. It’s very strange to me. It’s either entitlement, narcissism, insecurity, or a combination of all three.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 12:25 AM
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yep! And men kill and rape women who don’t put out every day. have you heard of femicide? might wanna look those figures up When men stop getting into relationships with women they hate, I’ll change my mind
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 01:47 PM
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if she was so clear she didn’t like you and treated you badly, why did you continue to date her? that reflects poorly on you also your parents are not representative of the whole population. men want a few things: not fat, not smarter than them, puts out, cleans, and cooks. you keep talking about people’s bodies and the way they look as if that’s a good way to choose a partner so I’m sure you feel that way at least to an extent men are entitled in terms of having access to women and controlling …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 01:09 PM
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yes they do and you’re lying if you say otherwise. men do not like women who are smarter or more competent than they are in any arena and, much like yourself, see that as “arrogance.” men believe they are fundamentally better than women. i date women myself and never have i EVER thought that a woman was more pretentious or entitled than a man
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 12:45 PM
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No they don’t lmao that is laughable. Men feel threatened and emasculated by equals.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 12:20 PM
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Women don’t want to be wanted for shallow and infantilizing reasons, which happen to be the primary draws for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 03:51 AM
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None.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 07:09 PM
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No you!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 04:26 AM
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You’re actually trying to blame women’s optimism and hopefulness that they’ll be respected instead of blaming men for being horrible inattentive partners Amazing
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 02:44 AM
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I’ll spell it out for ya: men make promises they don’t intend to keep and are largely disappointing partners. They cheat, lie, and prioritize other women over their wives and children. They don’t invest in their wives and children. They don’t know anything about their wives. Men marry for sex, cooking, and cleaning on tap. They get that. Women get married for romance, affection, support, and partnership. Most of the time, they don’t get those things. Financial support, maybe. This isn’t every co…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 02:36 AM
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I have no idea what you’re talking about. Enjoying marriage and wanting to get married does not mean it benefits women more than it does men. It statistically does not. A simple google will help you out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 02:26 AM
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Somebody’s not the sharpest tool in the shed! Women marry for companionship most of the time and end up taking care of someone who was supposed to be her partner and ends up being a giant kid. Also, it wasn’t even /possible/ for women not to get married until very recently. It was a very rigid social expectation and they were houseless, prostitutes, or shunned spinsters otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 01:40 AM
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I have never seen anyone say that looks don’t matter. Get real lmao that is your INTERPRETATION of what is being said
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 12:12 AM
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Marriage has only ever benefited men. When surveyed, women are happier unmarried and die later in life than they would have if married.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 08:00 PM
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Literally he is telling on himself
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 03:10 AM
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Nah man. You can be sexually attracted to someone without considering or seeing them like an object to be used. If you think most women are only their appearances, you’re hanging out and talking to the wrong women—or perhaps they’re the right ones for you. You don’t seem like you think women can be multidimensional.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 02:56 AM
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It didn’t make me sympathetic, but it made me wiser for sure
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 04:35 AM
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I promise u it’s not just your looks
/r/AllPillDebate09/05/23 10:55 PM
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No, I’m actually not interested in men All the self professed “high quality” men here are just as assholeish about women, their appearances, and what they believe they’re entitled to
/r/AllPillDebate08/05/23 03:20 PM
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I’m not clueless haha but I bet you wish I was It’s way more men in proportion
/r/AllPillDebate08/05/23 02:04 PM
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Doesn’t apply to me
/r/AllPillDebate08/05/23 02:03 PM
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No, “wrong” would mean that it’s hurting other people. It has the potential to, but the bulk of the harm being caused is toward the self. Women never have casual sex for pleasure. It is always about validation and attention, which kinda props up the whole character flaw argument. Even men who are a woman’s sole partner have trouble making them orgasm a very large portion of the time, let alone a casual partner. Have you heard of the orgasm gap? We’re talking about two different things. By your s…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/23 02:20 AM
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No it isn’t very low. Legalization of abortion was recent and it’s becoming illegal now in many states again. Women sleeping around isn’t “wrong,” because people can do whatever they please, but it’s not beneficial for them or their future relationships and it’s a character flaw in my opinion. It always takes an emotional toll and they bring that in to every new relationship they enter. It reduces their ability to properly pair bond with new partners. Sex is always emotionally involved for women…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/23 01:47 AM
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I never mentioned disgust. Some people are fine with it. I just don’t see why we should be made to “admit” that things like sleeping around don’t have effects on women when that is the furthest thing from true. Women risk getting pregnant and being vulnerable for 9 months when they sleep with someone. That is a biological imperative not to sleep around. Men can cause 365+ pregnancies per year and women can only gestate once. It’s also riskier for women to have sex. We contract STIs more easily a…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/23 01:33 AM
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Well, your examples don’t exactly help you. Men and women have different patterns re: sex because it makes way less biological sense for women to sleep around. Women with high body counts are usually traumatized and will make skittish, unstable partners. Women are typically naturally more feminine and men are typically naturally more masculine. There is nothing wrong with acknowledging that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/23 03:59 PM
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This type of thing lends itself to actual sexism and homophobia Stop overthinking it. People do what’s right for them and feels natural. There is a reason we evolved this way. Socialization and biology go hand in hand, you cannot have one without the other. There are outliers, but the majority of women are not masculine and the majority of men are not feminine. There is no reason to be trying to change these things.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/23 03:51 PM
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Most women are far more interesting, attentive, and caring. We’ve got our problems but overall we don’t form relationships the same way men do, which is out of convenience and impulse Men are boring, usually assholes, usually violent and rapey, and only care about like 3 things: that you’re fuckable, agreeable and stupid (read: not smarter than they are)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/23 03:43 AM
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Women and lgbt lmao Yet another deluded moid thinking straight men have a harder time than women and gay people Strange clown world we live in
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/23 03:39 AM
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Men ARE sex crazed with little interest in emotional bonding, that’s why they all end up with partners they hate
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 11:28 PM
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This is why I didn’t bother in the first place Men all think their opinions are the default for insight and correctness so it’s pointless to provide any sources, they will all be refuted for retarded reasons Men are very unga bunga and project it onto other people is the point. I do not feel bad for losers who can’t find a partner. You have half the world’s population to choose from. That means you’re doing something wrong.
/r/AllPillDebate06/05/23 10:32 PM
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Yes! Having eyes and being observant
/r/AllPillDebate06/05/23 09:03 PM
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How is that proof?
/r/AllPillDebate06/05/23 09:03 PM
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Sure https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8133465/ https://akjournals.com/view/journals/1126/12/1/article-p1.xml https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0022103106000345?via%3Dihub Here’s a tip: the reason “incels” and “average men” are having issues finding a mate is that they lack desirability in every area and have atrocious personalities. If you don’t have a lot of money and you don’t look like a sex god, nobody is going to put up with you being a boring, obsessive ass…
/r/AllPillDebate06/05/23 04:18 PM
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Proof is that I am one and date them and I don’t need to pull any study because it’s been proven and exemplified many many many times. Looks are not the only important thing to women. Stop projecting your own thoughts and feelings onto them and wise up.
/r/AllPillDebate06/05/23 02:29 PM
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No, they do want to trap them, they just don’t make enough money to do it, which is another reason they’re all resentful as fuck. It actually annoys men that women work now because they have to behave more. Looks are really not the most important thing. It’s important not to be repulsive and to be clean/well-kept, but attraction for women is a lot more complex than that. The only things men care about are cooking, cleaning, and sex on tap from women who aren’t fat, who aren’t smarter than them, …
/r/AllPillDebate05/05/23 11:54 PM
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Ah yes, because obese is the worst thing a person can possibly be
/r/AllPillDebate05/05/23 11:47 PM
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I don’t really see what’s wrong with this. If you don’t have the ability to provide for the entire household, you need to stop expecting a 1950s submissive, personality-less wife. The bare minimum is becoming less acceptable but in light of that, instead of actually improving themselves and their resources, most men in their mid-20s are still living at home with mommy and daddy. Do you want someone to be trapped under your roof because they rely on your income, or do you want to find an actual m…
/r/AllPillDebate05/05/23 10:49 PM
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I love you downvoting my comments and doing exactly what I was talking about omg you guys are such sad little whiners it’s unbelievable
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 11:56 PM
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Men are actually not the only people who exist, I was referring to gay women too lol But no you’re wrong. Gay men do not have more abundant relationships, they have more abundant sex. It is very difficult for a gay man to get into a long-lasting partnership. It’s worse tenfold for lesbians.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 10:51 PM
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Men have a really hard time when they don’t fit someone’s preferences. Women are better about being rejected when someone’s not into us. Men can care about other things besides sex but it’s definitely the most important thing. They get married for cooking, cleaning, and sex on tap. If they could have all these things without a commitment they would do it. Men don’t care about anything re: qualities except that you’re not fat, you’re submissive, and you’re not smarter than them. They generally do…
/r/AllPillDebate03/05/23 10:06 PM
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I’m not disagreeing with you 😅
/r/AllPillDebate03/05/23 09:22 PM
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Socialization and biology go hand in hand, people! Can’t have one without the other.
/r/AllPillDebate03/05/23 09:15 PM
1

Right! I agree with you.
/r/AllPillDebate03/05/23 09:10 PM
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Then they end up on the dead bedrooms subreddit and insist they didn’t see it coming! They have no idea why! People really really need to marry people they actually like, both personality wise and physically. That is the biggest problem. It’s not all about looks because you’re right, they do change, sex drives lower, etc. Men form relationships out of impulse and convenience. They do this with their friends too, just in a different way. Usually they are friends with people they’ve been friends w…
/r/AllPillDebate03/05/23 08:15 PM
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It definitely is the norm. A guy on the regular purple pill subreddit tried to say expecting a bf to know those things is unrealistic because it’s “not how men work.” My view is that if they can remember stupid pointless sports stats they can remember things about their wives, but apparently this is a controversial viewpoint lmfao 😭
/r/AllPillDebate03/05/23 07:55 PM
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Men have a really hard time when they don’t fit someone’s preferences. Women are better about being rejected when someone’s not into us. Men can care about other things besides sex but it’s definitely the most important thing. They get married for cooking, cleaning, and sex on tap. If they could have all these things without a commitment they would do it. Men don’t care about anything re: qualities except that you’re not fat, you’re submissive, and you’re not smarter than them. They generally do…
/r/AllPillDebate03/05/23 07:16 PM
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They would not be content with that Men here genuinely and honestly believe that they have a harder time than gay people dating which is laughable
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 06:15 PM
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Yay Canada!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 04:06 PM
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Existing is not showing off lmao she’s not strutting around naked in public putting on a show specifically for male attention like u seem to be fantasizing that she is ? God almighty
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 03:55 PM
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Yes there is, when it’s unwanted That’s the crux of this whole issue that you guys seem to not be understanding very well—it’s okay for you to express these things when it is WANTED contact. Women don’t see strange men ogling and panting over them as a compliment, most times, as hard as that is to believe
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 03:49 PM
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Alllllllllll of this
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 07:02 AM
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Lol being rebuffed is not being shamed Men get away with sexual abuse on a routine basis because male sexuality is…… shamed? Men are held to much lower standards of sexual behavior and control because male sexuality is shamed? Nah, I don’t think so haha. Nobody is going to shame you if you don’t push for something a woman doesn’t want. Keep your hands and your eyes to yourself like a civilized person.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 07:00 AM
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None of the things she described are showing off wtf
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 06:58 AM
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Yes it is automatically objectifying her lol especially if you don’t know anything else about her What else is that
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 06:56 AM
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Not all of them are, but a very large portion of them are and in autogynephiles it’s much more common to have strange sexual fetishes. There have been many many reports of them going into women’s restrooms and masturbating/exposing themselves to women. The best way to combat this is to delineate between who has real gender dysphoria and wants to blend in(very easy to tell, usually they are feminine gay men pre-transition who only like men or masculine lesbians pre-transition who only like women)…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 05:18 PM
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It’s whatever suits their complaint at any given time. I’m always curious why men are so desperate to fuck women they hate—the hatred, spite and resentment are all very plain. Sad for them!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 06:44 PM
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No, I’m not amenable to think otherwise because I’ve lived it and been around it. I’m a lesbian, unlike the “lesbian” couple you know. Those women are bisexual with a preference for other women, which is very common. Lesbians are very rare. Women do have a more “fluid” sexuality than men in terms of arousal patterns, but someone’s behavior is much more important than what they tell you. For example, I would never last in the dating scene if I believed every woman who has a laundry list of male e…
/r/AllPillDebate28/04/23 02:57 AM
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The only trans people who are treated better and experience relatively “normal” sex after transition are homosexual transsexual males. No one else.
/r/AllPillDebate28/04/23 12:09 AM
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No man. Nobody chooses their sexuality. There is no study or proof to back this bilge up. You do it if it’s possible. Choose to be gay. People who are saying it’s a choice are either deeply in denial and afraid of their own sexuality or are “choosing” it for political reasons rather than feeling that way organically, and that is not a sexual orientation, it just harms actual gay people.
/r/AllPillDebate28/04/23 12:08 AM
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Depends. Do you only help women you find hot out, or do you help your family and friends too?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 09:15 PM
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I completely agree, it’s terrible and very narcissistic. Would not wanna be around this woman in a million years. I just wanted to comment with regards to the opposite, because it actually does happen more often the other direction and not everyone reading this will know that. Pill subs can often get a little…. skewed
/r/AllPillDebate22/04/23 02:54 AM
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No, it’s not that—it’s that you’re using sources from a Mormon-funded organization and not citing actual research, just opinion pieces. There is no actual study refuting the 6x claim. It’s the only widespread study that’s been published on it. That WaPo article is paywalled also btw so can’t even read it if I wanted Being male and having an opinion does not make u correct
/r/AllPillDebate22/04/23 02:31 AM
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Do you know what Deseret News is? Lmao
/r/AllPillDebate22/04/23 02:13 AM
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Are you aware that many more men leave their wives when their wives become ill than the opposite?
/r/AllPillDebate22/04/23 01:15 AM
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“Working on it” = bare minimum “Trying” = being boring and not expanding any of their interests and hoping it changes
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 08:00 PM
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yep
/r/AllPillDebate18/04/23 12:24 AM
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Oh yeah history really agrees with you that women are more self centered than men and have trouble valuing others
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/23 05:06 PM
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yep lol they wanna be the head of the household….. what household……
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 08:14 PM
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One freaking hundred
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 12:03 AM
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Lmao wow this post sure is a way to make fat ugly girls into bad people huh Absolutely anything to rationalize you naturally respecting and treating attractive people better so you don’t feel bad about it Look here, you only notice unattractive women’s flaws for that reason. Pretty people are just as, if not more, flawed—they don’t have to introspect as much
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 12:02 AM
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If you dislike sluts quit panting over them and sleeping with them
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/23 07:21 PM
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No
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/23 05:12 PM
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Women are not always turning away “hundreds” of suitors. Normal women aren’t always in a sea of compliments and offers. Hundreds of men swiping right on Tinder means next to nothing—sometimes they don’t even respond to messages lol
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/23 11:09 PM
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lolol this sub
/r/AllPillDebate10/02/23 05:59 AM
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this is so dramatic i have said it before and ill say it again none of you men saying this would ever ever ever last as a gay person
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/23 07:08 AM
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what about it do you find so unrealistic? what are the things that you take issue with?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 11:25 PM
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No they don’t lmao 50 shades is smut and it’s not even good smut
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 06:56 PM
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maybe that’s a problem then? men are hellbent on contributing the bare minimum to relationships and it’s only in order to get sex so i have a hard time sympathizing
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 05:45 PM
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women don’t consider that a romance novel lol
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 05:29 PM
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“places an immense amount of pressure on men to be perfect” huh sorry i’m an eldest daughter what was that ? eta tho in all seriousness i actually enjoy extending myself and romancing my partners / doing things for them that make them feel loved, special and set apart so can’t relate
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 09:11 AM
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yeah there’s a difference because women being infatuated with romance novels and “great love stories” holds men to a higher standard as people. the themes are very much treat women with better care, love and respect them, apologize when you fuck up, etc porn encourages unrealistic views of women’s bodies, personalities, and humanity as well as normalizing wanting to physically hurt women and sexually objectify them … effectively wears so many women down into engaging in stupid or dangerous kinks…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 07:45 AM
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Women with high libidos exist. Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/23 06:10 PM
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Lmao this post is sick. You alllllll are sick puppies for trying to justify a 30 year age gap There are so many things wrong with this
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/23 05:42 PM
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https://www.statista.com/statistics/941033/americans-preference-of-gender-children/ https://etd.ohiolink.edu/apexprod/rws_etd/send_file/send?accession=osu1221077618&disposition=attachment https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/17441730.2010.494437?journalCode=raps20 Many more out there lol will ya shut up now
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/23 04:41 PM
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You can help the way you think about and conceptualize women. You don’t have to “turn yourself asexual” to change your behavior. Correct the antisocial behavior first.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/23 03:48 AM
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Ok wait, so this entire post asks why “women hate men” and “don’t want sex with men”—here is the reason. You incriminated yourself. You admit you do not like women as people, you wish you weren’t attracted to them, and only want them for sex and you wonder why they are not interested. No one feels desired when you say you “can’t help it.” That’s poor self control, not desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/23 03:01 AM
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You do have a shitty attitude. I’m a woman. The woe is me I’m such a victim because nobody likes me or will have sex with me is going to continue your celibacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/23 02:39 AM
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Yes, you can and yes, it is. You can learn about female anatomy, read about what women like from women’s perspective, and if you watch porn, stop watching that and relying upon it. What is such a conundrum for you? Relationships and sex are desirable things for women, but typically we have much higher standards and keener eyes when it comes to red flags because men, like you said, are very dangerous. I don’t see what’s difficult to understand about this.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/23 12:55 AM
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Get hoppin on that then Women are not going to be impressed by your lack of skill or know-how in bed
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/23 12:48 AM
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Can we ban this dude already lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/23 12:46 AM
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Women don’t hate sex, they hate bad sex and they hate being pressured for sex they don’t want. Get better at sex
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/23 12:44 AM
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I’m the love of your life or nothing
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/23 11:41 PM
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oh you’re 17, that’s unfortunate i was gonna have fun roasting you bye tho. damnnnn 😭😭😭😭
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 09:15 PM
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i’m not avoiding you it’s just so fucking funny i have no idea where to start how many pussies have u eaten, let’s start there
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 09:06 PM
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oooooh link??
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 08:54 PM
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sad of you to dig up months old comments to sling stale insults at me come talk to me when you’ve actually dated a woman
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 08:00 PM
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0% sexual attraction for me Maybe 5% on a purely aesthetic level I’m sexually attracted to women but it’s probably less than 10% of them Around 30% have some aesthetic value that I can appreciate
/r/AllPillDebate20/09/22 11:07 PM
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Disagree. Men are excellent pretenders when they want to be. Take a look at all the weaponized incompetence in heterosexual households.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 11:00 PM
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The tattoos one is funny because like a lot of women have them in urban areas (I also have them and my body count is very very low) These are visual cues but there are much more sure fire ways to tell than this lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 11:27 AM
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I am a woman and completely agree that you can tell when someone has a high body count or conversely a low one. It’s an absolute crock that there aren’t common threads and that you can’t tell.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 11:24 AM
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By having eyes, ears, and a nose
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 11:23 AM
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Really? Lmao. Being masculine as a woman and looking nice is way harder than being feminine and looking good. Have you ever even spoken to a butch lesbian? Most of them are too short for men’s cuts or have different proportions than men of a similar height would and finding things that look good is difficult. Again, where are you getting these opinions from?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 07:49 PM
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We’re talking about effort now, not masculinity. You equate less effort and appearing unkempt to masculinity. I’m telling you that’s not what masculinity is or means. Radfems who “decide to be masculine” become unkempt and wear unflattering clothes to repel men. That’s not masculinity.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 07:41 PM
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When you’re doing it for the purpose of repelling men, yes, it does. Have you never encountered radfems telling you that makeup is bad and that feminine women should wear things that hide and disguise your body? How about not taking showers or upkeeping the rest of your hygiene? How about growing out all of your hair and not grooming yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 07:35 PM
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Yes you did. You said “masculinity requires less effort.”
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 07:26 PM
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Masculinity isn’t the same as being ugly lmao. There are plenty of masculine women who smell good, are well dressed, do their hair every day, wear small amounts of makeup, purchase luxury items and try to make a good impression, too. Dowdy and ugly is what you’re talking about, not masculinity. Why do you think butch lesbians can suddenly become feminine? Is this your uneducated opinion as a bisexual woman or are you getting this from somewhere else?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 07:22 PM
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Femininity doesn’t come naturally, but you think that masculinity does? Why is that? Femininity doesn’t require any effort for most people. Feminine doesn’t just mean Malibu Barbie, it can also mean a weird radfem who doesn’t wear deodorant or shave her armpits. Those women are still feminine because it’s not just about your personality OR your appearance, it’s a combination of things. Personality cannot be changed. You can change the way you respond to your instincts and experiences can shape a…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 07:12 PM
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It’s not about a feeling. Stop rewriting what I said. It’s not that I didn’t “feel” accepted, I WAS NOT accepted, and I doubt that has changed in the year and a half since I left. I was involved in communities with women of all sorts of ages, professed sexualities, professions, and on different platforms, and met hundreds of radical feminists. The reality is that what they believe is homophobic and sexist. Most of those women you’re referencing aren’t lesbians, they are political lesbians and th…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 06:31 PM
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But you just said there is only “one way” to be feminine and now you’re saying it’s a scale. Which thing is it? If there’s only “one way” to be gender conforming, that would mean the majority of women are gender nonconforming and only a liar would insist that’s true. Masculinity in women is rare and it’s not something you can just attain. I think that is painful for radical feminists because it says to them they will never be able to get away from who they are, and instead of embracing that, it …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 06:09 PM
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You don’t understand it yet and you might never, but what you just said is sexist. Women don’t have to live like 50s housewives to be feminine or recognized as such. I have never been that way, like ever, and I still consider myself feminine and mostly gender conforming. I have several gender nonconforming traits, as many women (particularly lesbians) do, but that does not make me gender nonconforming. This is one of the reasons radical feminism is completely unfriendly to lesbians. I was consta…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 05:32 PM
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If it could be anything and is anything, why oppose gender as an institution? There must be common threads otherwise radical feminists would not say women all over the world are similarly oppressed.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 05:52 AM
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Yeah that is common. Most of the time when someone says they “chose” to be gnc in adulthood it’s for that reason and I don’t think that a trauma response alone (not in ur case I guess but in general) is a solid backing for claiming gender nonconformity. I’ve met several real butch lesbians for example and I’ve also met radfems who say they “chose” to be butch. The former were legitimately masculine women and the latter were feminine women in essentially costumes. I don’t think gender nonconformi…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 12:17 AM
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Well you’re not.. gender nonconforming then. gender nonconformity isn’t a choice. You’re just.. appearing differently to elicit a specific reaction. Women and men are just not the same. Men are much more visual and spatial, they’re more interested in things rather than people, they have much higher libidos on average, they’re not as picky or discerning as women, and generally speaking are much more violent, aggressive, and industrious. On the other hand, women are more about harmony, really peop…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 11:52 PM
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But what would that look like to you? at what point do you think a woman is gender nonconforming?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 10:22 PM
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Ok here’s a better question—what exactly do you think gender is? What is gender nonconformity? Quiz me on any radfem tenet, I’ll be able to answer since you think I don’t know anything about it. Been awhile since I had an interesting discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 10:15 PM
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The people you know are political lesbians.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 09:59 PM
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No. What you’re talking about is traumatized women trying to look ugly to men. That is not gender nonconformity. Real gender nonconformity shows up in childhood and persists in adulthood. I’m a lesbian. Based on what you’re saying I don’t think you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 09:46 PM
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I didn’t say that and neither did anyone else. It does not help women to insist there are no differences between men and women, and only one thing can be true: either men are innately violent and aggressive or women have the same capability to act that way on a large scale. I have not observed that. I’m sure you haven’t either. Socialization is not the reason for everything. Biology came first. Gender nonconforming women and men are the best argument for innate gender expression and differences,…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 09:33 PM
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Sorry but this is wrong. Neurologists have been arguing about this for years and no conclusion has been reached. Cordelia Fine is considered a hack by most respected people in that industry.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 09:06 PM
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Women might be more emotional but we have much better control of those emotions. Men have emotional outbursts and expect to avoid the consequences, which they often do. When men say “I tried being emotional and women didn’t like it” they probably mean I got angry or had an inappropriate possessive hysterical outburst way too soon and it wasn’t well received
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 09:03 PM
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Why are you posting pictures of random women to humiliate them? Fucking weird
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 08:23 PM
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How about watching and consuming onlyfans is a red flag How bout that chief
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 02:04 PM
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I bet their college educated partners might disagree with you
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 08:51 PM
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LMAO yes college educated means “loveless and sexless” 😭😂
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 08:40 PM
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Hahahaha No, y’all PICK those women. Blame yourselves. Look up how many college educated women stay married.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 08:05 PM
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Ok I mean that’s anecdotal but regardless, someone’s job is only one component of how interesting or boring they might be
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 01:25 AM
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Having a degree means you are more educated. My point isn’t about how much money people make, it’s about being similarly minded. Someone who is into opera or niche sociopolitical research or astrophysics isn’t going to find a grocery store worker’s job particularly interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 01:00 AM
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Men working at Trader Joe’s are making slave wages. College educated, career-minded people usually end up with other college educated, career-minded people.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 12:31 AM
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plz imagine thinking wanting “non-boring” and “non-generic” people is bad
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 02:04 PM
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Don’t care. Wear a condom. Use a fleshlight. You are equally responsible if not more. Men can cause 365+ pregnancies per year, women can only gestate once.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 09:30 PM
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I won’t date anyone who had a single mother. That being said, it affects men much worse than women to have a single mother. I would argue it makes men more dependent and annoying while it might make women more independent and self-sufficient. This is because of emotional incest and single people’s tendency to slot their opposite-sex children into emotional spousal roles and responsibilities. That being said, you’re talking a lot for someone who doesn’t understand the prevalence of deadbeat dads …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 03:37 PM
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any kind of man can be bad in bed. even the nice ones
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 03:30 PM
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Blah blah blah blah
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 03:36 AM
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Yes they are well done
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 03:20 AM
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He’s speaking for men lol I don’t care if he’s talking about himself or not
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 03:20 AM
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Women have casual sex to be validated. It is not because it feels good. Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 12:16 AM
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Women do not have casual sex because it feels good. Were you born yesterday? These things are absolutely connected.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 12:03 AM
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This is it
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 12:02 AM
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Right ☠️ the level of self awareness is nonexistent
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 11:57 PM
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I think many men do want to force it and that’s where I disagree with you. The interesting thing is that I agree with most of what you said about women not wanting/needing men as much, but I don’t actually see that as a negative thing. I think a lot of men are frustrated that they can no longer unilaterally provide everything for a household and thus the expectations for relationships are elevating and changing. Women are much more adaptable to different expectations and social environments, whi…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 08:37 PM
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You’re not pro-choice if you don’t believe in abortion at any time for any reason. That’s how abortion rights work. You can’t pick and choose which women and under which circumstances have the same rights to terminate a pregnancy. I would term a pregnancy with a Down syndrome baby in a heartbeat or a pregnancy I couldn’t afford because you know what? That’s my right. I don’t want a baby right now and I couldn’t provide a comfortable life. Know where it goes if I don’t? Foster care. Know what hap…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 08:25 PM
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Lol I’m not even liberal and I wasn’t comparing the issues. I was drawing a comparison between the logic men use in thinking they are entitled to unadulterated access and control of women’s bodies. You cannot guide (read: control) other people into doing everything that you want them to do. You have to work on yourself, maintain a decent level of self-awareness, and put your best foot forward. No one else is responsible for soothing or placating you regardless of your level of desperation.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 08:22 PM
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It’s a complex problem, but the main reasons are tied to people marrying other people they never liked as individuals in the first place. The passion and intimacy dies off after the honeymoon phase, people realize they had nothing in common except physical attraction, the ball and chain jokes ensue.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 08:12 PM
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The root of male loneliness is lack of romantic companionship. Being genuinely desired by someone, sharing an emotional connection, intimacy (which includes non-sexual things like cuddling) ect... It stands to reason, that if nearly a third of men aren't having sex (and that's sex at least once within the year of the survey, undoubtedly a lesser percentage of men are having it regularly) then virtually all of those men aren't experiencing any of that. And the impact of that permeates into things…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 08:09 PM
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You are not pro-choice if you think you have a leg to stand on bringing all of that up. You can still think it’s a baby if you want. I agree with that. Bottom line is it doesn’t matter what you think or even why you think it, because it isn’t your life and it’s not your body. You (+ the government) are not God. Even if you consider both of them human beings, one has a fully formed life and relationships and also doesn’t need the other to continue subsisting and surviving. Over half of women have…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 08:05 PM
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Ok. You continue being intentionally obtuse, and I’ll stay over here with my eyes open.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 07:54 PM
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You’re in the minority. Most men in sexless relationships who don’t leave are staying because of kids and because they are afraid they’ll lose half their assets, not because of love. Check out DeadBedrooms.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 07:53 PM
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He tells on himself a little in the paragraph about sifting through jobs. They all believe effort shouldn’t be required because they are E N T I T L E D.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 07:35 PM
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The entire post? “Women not dating me is the root of my loneliness and the cause of all my problems, men have a higher libido and thus need sex more, and it’s normal to want and need companionship but dating for men is like trying to find water in the desert” are all thinly veiled justifications for entitlement. Do you not see and understand how burdensome and exhausting dating a person like this would be or how much pressure this puts on women he might pursue? I do not think any women I know wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 07:18 PM
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It is such bullshit that men want relationships, though. Men want relationships because most of them are not attractive or charismatic enough to pull off consistent casual sex. A romantic relationship is synonymous with maid service, mothering, and sex on tap for men. If they could get all that without commitment, that’s what they would choose.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 07:02 PM
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I disagree with him that it isn’t entitled to expect women to give you a relationship and put out when and how you want it. It is. Everyone can want and desire romantic and sexual companionship, but how a lot of men react to those things not being fulfilled is entitled. Straight up.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 06:54 PM
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You think that not having orgasms is irrelevant to why average men can’t get laid?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 06:47 PM
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Sure you do
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 06:43 PM
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It doesn’t “do” anything for women. It is an expectation that men have. Do not lie and say you don’t like makeup if you don’t even know what that means or looks like.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 06:31 PM
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Being an asshole doesn’t make you bad in bed and being a good person doesn’t make you good in bed. There are plenty of assholes who are terrible in bed and plenty of good people who are good in bed, too. You need to stop making this about character and understand that skill and talent in bed doesn’t have much to do with who you are. Lots of assholes are attractive and good at a lot of things. Lots of nice people aren’t well kept and are kinda bad at stuff. The opposite also applies. That’s life.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 06:30 PM
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You missed the point. The point is that what you think is “no makeup” is not actually no makeup. I am almost positively certain you would rate the same woman with minimal makeup higher than you would if she had no makeup on. Men don’t know anything about makeup. Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 06:25 PM
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Unfortunately none of what you just said justifies male entitlement, which is a very real problem whether you like it or not. The anger, obsession, hatred of women who won’t date or fuck them, and resentment because of it are solid clues it exists. To “put it concisely,” no “argument” matters when it comes to conversations about bodily autonomy. The same thing applies to women having the right to terminate pregnancies. You may not like it or find it logical, but literally it doesn’t matter becau…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 06:17 PM
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I guarantee that you would not know the difference between what you think is no makeup and a full face that is applied to look natural. Guarantee it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 06:16 PM
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Lmfao ok sounds like someone doesn’t know what oppression is
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 03:26 PM
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Why even bother if you don’t like her? Talk to virgins if that’s what you want. Your desire for sex and disdain for other people’s choices doesn’t mean you’re justified in treating women like objects or shit on the bottom of your shoe. I will never ever understand men who hate women, particularly slutty women, and still go out of their way to seek their approval and sleep with them. Just don’t? It’s really easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 03:13 PM
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Lol you’re telling on yourself. Some people enjoy being kind and treating other people well. Sad if basic decency and courtesy are hard for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 03:00 PM
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Ok, so you don’t know any lesbians, then. Lesbians do not like men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 02:59 PM
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I don’t care what you do. I’m telling you that some assholes are terrible in bed and some nice people are terrible in bed and vice versa. Being an asshole doesn’t mean you’re terrible at everything and being a nice person doesn’t mean you’re good at everything. That’s life.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 02:58 PM
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Then you don’t know any lesbians. I’m a lesbian. I’m telling you it’s not something you choose. Do you have “phases” of being straight?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 02:42 PM
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There is no such thing as being a lesbian “currently.” You are or you aren’t. Look up the orgasm/pleasure gap. Can you tell me you wouldn’t freak out if a partner confided in you that she didn’t enjoy sex with you and never had orgasms?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 02:18 PM
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I don’t care. I didn’t call women liars, either. I said sometimes they fake orgasms to protect both themselves and their partner’s ego.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 02:16 PM
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I’m not angry at all. I don’t even sleep with men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 01:24 PM
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Her point is still correct, whether you like it or not. Personality is an important aspect of attraction, but it doesn’t make you good in bed or more likely to make a woman orgasm.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 01:23 PM
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Yep. They also think women not having orgasms has to do with us not putting in the work. This is literally an argument I have seen here.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 12:54 PM
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It’s a fib to protect men’s extremely fragile sexual confidence. Women will test the waters initially to see how men respond to instructions or sexual criticism. If not well, or nothing improves, yes, women will fake an orgasm and men are too stupid to tell the difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 12:53 PM
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I think men really believe that vaginas are just inside out penises And I also think that they believe their dicks are magical, so when there’s any criticism it’s also about their dicks in their minds
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 04:27 AM
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“Try” is not the same as successfully doing. Many men try but don’t have the skill / haven’t listened to instructions. Many many many women fake orgasms at least once in relationships because men see sexual criticisms as personal failings and develop resentment toward partners for bringing these things up. Not to mention that 1/10 women will never orgasm, ever, in her life.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 03:27 AM
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Lmao nope. Most men are not good at sex and it is harder to make women orgasm as it is. They don’t have the self control or patience.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 03:16 AM
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No, it is rocket science for men. A minority percentage of women actually orgasm during partnered sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 02:30 AM
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Disagree. This is true for men. Not women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 02:19 AM
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Monogamy with someone I love vs emptiness with randoms? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 12:46 AM
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“Women” in general don’t approach or pursue, but that does not apply to me lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/22 03:18 PM
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You are going to hurt women who try to break up with you or reject you for sex. Get help.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/22 02:29 AM
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I bring plenty to any relationship, so that argument isn’t going to work on me. First, I want nothing to do with men and expect nothing from them. I have my own luxury apartment, my own car, work seven days a week and make more than the majority of my peers, male or female. I’m a college graduate and have many career aspirations. I’ve taken care of other people for the majority of my adult life. Maybe structure your sentence better next time? I don’t think my misinterpretation was unwarranted co…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 01:42 AM
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I am not talking about any of that. I’m talking about how men are in already existing relationships and how they approach romantic relationships, not the ease in which they can or can’t find a partner It’s not superficial to say that men are useless because they often are in most meaningful ways
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 01:28 AM
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no, it’s a conversation about men’s unhelpfulness—keep up now i stand by what i said, which is that men want to do what they want and be praised for it, they are not caring or helpful in the same way most women are as wives and mothers
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 01:23 AM
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people commenting and saying that a shitty attitude from men is a result of feminism is where eta: you are people
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 11:29 PM
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your first two sentences are word salad adjacent men are terrible problem solvers—it’s why “men’s rights” activism has never and will never go anywhere and why feminism has been as successful as it has in such a short period of human history men are good at being controlling and forcing things to go their way, if you want to call that “problem solving”
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 11:20 PM
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yawn indeed! men are extremely boring and one-dimensional
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 10:23 PM
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Right 😭 negative talk about men NOT ALLOWED ! They just are not used to criticism. It’s a newfangled thing for men to be called out and they want to revert to assumed acquiescence.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 10:16 PM
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Nobody cares, this is not a discussion about looks
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 09:55 PM
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Oh, really? Men in the 1950s helped their wives take care of their spawn, changed their diapers, clean the house, run errands, fixed things around the house without expecting some kind of sexual favor as payment, etc? Women still do all of this, PLUS work because men cannot afford to support an entire household anymore. It doesn’t solve anyone’s problems to say “wow you look so pretty”
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 09:54 PM
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I don’t have time for “looks match” discussions as being attractive hardly matches the definition of helpfulness in any sense for either sex
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 09:52 PM
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Yeah they do. Men don’t have a reputation for being people pleasers, accepting a fuckton of bad behavior from partners/family, holding down the fort day in and day out by cooking, cleaning, caring for children, and contributing financially in many cases now, remembering details about loved ones / important dates, or being thoughtful. There’s hardly an abundance of single dads, which shows you just how much men enjoy loving and giving selflessly.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 09:50 PM
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I don’t. Poll a sample of men about the things I mentioned and see if they’d be happy to do those things / would offer to do them. Your view is much too idealistic. It’s less painful if you look at it realistically. I don’t like men but have been around them long enough and been friends with enough of them to know these things. Men don’t enjoy helping without having some kind of ulterior motive happening behind the scenes. They like to feel needed, they do not like to help. Women like to help.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 09:27 PM
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I don’t think it is. They want to do what THEY want and be appreciated for it. I don’t think any man would be happy to do a chore because he was asked, or to fix a car when he didn’t particularly want to, or to change a baby’s diaper, or to run an errand / get groceries / whatever that his wife actually needs. What they want to do: have sex, buy shit that will make her happy enough she’ll give him sex, buy shit that will also benefit him, pay most of the bills to use that argument as leverage, b…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 09:20 PM
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indeed. i am so sensitive and gentle in so many instances, but because i am intelligent, can outpace most men in conversations, and have no issue being assertive when i am being mistreated, all the other stuff is overlooked
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 09:08 PM
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Yes it is
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 09:07 PM
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“Natural instincts” = disliking any personality or opinions women might have, making them completely reliant upon them, and setting their daughters up to be hated by similar men
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 09:06 PM
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They want to get some kind of praise for helping without actually being helpful, tho lmao Any time men are asked to do something useful they complain and bitch
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 08:59 PM
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The reason: men know they are horrible partners, want their daughters to implicitly know it, but get mad or upset when anyone points this out The thoughts they all have are the best context and way to inform this discrepancy Men say they want independent women, but that is not true at all—personality-less, needy, easily controlled doormat is better By teaching their daughters to be more well-rounded and more independent, men are inadvertently raising the bar for future generations of men. We are…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 08:56 PM
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Yep
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 08:52 PM
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Yes Men didn’t used to RESENT paying for things and it was non-negotiable, considering that most women did not work unless very poor or their husbands were away, not to mention that marriage was an expectation rather than a deliberation By everyone’s standard. The sex dries up after new relationship energy because there is no fire anymore, the two of you don’t have anything in common, and in large part the thing uniting you to this person, physical attraction, has lost its novelty — the ball and…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 02:42 AM
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Oh lord god LMFAO ok bye degenerate
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 02:37 AM
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I’m not arguing that lifelong monogamy is bad for humans You are arguing that basic knowledge of your partner and enjoyment of their personality is too high a standard, which is a gigantic steaming crock and I have no problem with telling you Lack of success doesn’t then indicate a lack of entitlement. There is a reason inceldom is so popular among unsuccessful, unattractive men with horrible personalities
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 02:30 AM
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u must be like 17 years old
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 02:13 AM
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Doesn’t count if you’re resentful the whole time about providing and expect everything to be a transaction Men date women they have nothing in common with because they are terrible at picking mates and their only standards are “agreeable and fuckable” which tends to backfire as I’ve already mentioned You sound horrible LMFAO buy a robot
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 02:10 AM
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They by and large do on this sub, which is what is being discussed. I don’t care about all the pseudoscience you’re going to try and sling at me. I know how hard it is to date women, but lack of genuine interest in their partners isn’t a complaint you can make about them. Men are much more entitled than women and they only believe otherwise because now the script has flipped a little and women don’t need men to survive; it is a choice made out of convenience or lack of work ethic. It is not too …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 02:07 AM
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Yes it’s very cute you want a sex doll stepford wife Move along
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 02:03 AM
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Yes, which is exactly what I said ☠️ The only reasons these men want women to contribute are a) being broke as fuck, and/or b) being feminine enough to want to be chased and doted on with money and gifts Lack of personality and substance is definitely a problem—it’s why barely any men actually like their partners, don’t care about their hobbies, don’t know relevant details about their wives’ lives or likes/dislikes, and don’t like spending time with them except to get sex
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 01:58 AM
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You don’t check this sub very often if you haven’t noticed the men here complaining about the prospect of paying for most/everything They are obsessed with equal contribution until it makes them feel threatened and emasculated
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 01:49 AM
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ppl here will piss and moan about wanting a fuckable, submissive, agreeable woman and then complain she won’t contribute financially, that they don’t have anything in common, and that she has no personality. if they get an independent woman who doesn’t rely upon them for decision making or to pay for things, they don’t like the “masculinity” or “conflict.” there is no winning with these freaks.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 01:40 AM
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No, we aren’t. OP thinks fewer partners is a guarantee of less trauma and problems. I’m saying that isn’t the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 10:53 PM
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Nope, you should intimately understand who a person is before a commitment lmfao this is how men end up with women they hate
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 08:45 PM
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You’re missing the point. Sometimes an extremely low body count is BECAUSE of already existing trauma. People do not all respond to trauma by fucking everything in sight.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 07:48 PM
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The point was your argument is moot because I never said any of that. You’re acting like you made a solid counterpoint but I already acknowledged it can be bad for women to be promiscuous I said that trauma is a potential relation or correlation with promiscuity but other women who aren’t promiscuous can be just as if not more traumatized, and that dick is not the only thing which causes sexual or relationship trauma
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 06:53 PM
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You’re inserting a lot of shit I never said I literally said “a lot of sex does damage and traumatize women in my view” Pls learn to read before you engage with me and project all your own problems and insecurities
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 06:37 PM
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Disagree. Someone could have ten shortlived moderately decent partners and someone could have two longterm awful partners. A lot of sex does damage and traumatize women in my view, but there are other far worse things that can happen. Dick is not the end all be all of trauma and baggage. It doesn’t have quite as much power and influence as men here seem to be hellbent upon giving it. ETA: trauma is often the precedent for numerous or tumultuous relationships, even if they cause more of it later …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 06:27 PM
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“Many” does not equal “more.” I’ve had very few sexual partners (one) and am much more traumatized than most of my promiscuous friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 05:46 PM
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Relationships require a complex understanding of a person
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 05:45 PM
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It’s not that simple. People who have had few relationships can have more intense trauma than people who have had many. People who have parental wounds can also go around and cause trauma, as well as hypergamous people could. You’re way oversimplifying a complex topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 05:11 PM
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Nail on the head
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 03:28 PM
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if you think it’s that simple you really have no clue how pervasive parental wounds can be lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 03:25 PM
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hahahaha
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 03:24 PM
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it could go one of several ways! the most common things i have noticed are some combination of major insecurity in relationships, choosing older or unavailable partners, accepting abuse or mistreatment because of its familiarity, and more. even within my family, my sisters and i have responded differently to parental wound trauma.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 03:24 PM
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i got major daddy issues and i’m not a serial monogamist. extremely low body count. my best friend’s are even worse than mine and she isn’t either. also has a relatively low-medium body count. trauma with men is in no way exclusive to promiscuous women. different women respond differently to trauma.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 01:37 PM
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my friend have u ever heard of daddy issues? you’re correct that hbc women are more likely to have relationship trauma but being single and having few partners is not a guarantee of a clean slate, and you shouldn’t be expecting a “trauma free” status anyway. chances are you have baggage and bullshit of your own that’s equally if not more annoying to deal with, such as expecting that no one will ever be curious or ask you questions
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 11:59 PM
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lmfao thank you for bringing levity to this insanity rambling
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/22 02:36 PM
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hahah, you definitely do
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/22 01:17 PM
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How aren’t they feminine other than “not wearing skirts every day”
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/22 01:13 PM
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I love that Cardi B took everything from rapists, yep https://supportingsurvivors.humboldt.edu/statistics
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/22 01:13 PM
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It isn’t complicated lol. If she doesn’t say “yes” it means no. Women can’t just say no to every man without serious consequences. They get crazy because they’re entitled.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/22 01:10 PM
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+1. Most men are simple and expect that everyone else should be just as. Nuanced communication and subtle cues are women’s bread and butter, and I am more than certain men would not actually like super straightforward women. They’d call them “masculine” lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/22 12:46 PM
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Men are primarily raped, abused and assaulted by men, yes, but even if your source were legitimate (The Atlantic is an op-Ed column it’s not a scientific publication), you are still misinterpreting the data. 80% of men are not raped by women. 79% of men who identify as SA victims (which is nowhere near 80% of men) say they’ve had a female perpetrator. “80% of men are raped by women” is not a fact in any sense of the word, even according to this article
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/22 12:43 PM
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It’s a spectrum. Most women are feminine. “Not Barbie” doesn’t mean masculine.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/22 12:41 PM
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What exactly do you think a masculine woman is
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/22 12:30 PM
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Wow, you are extremely bad at interpreting data. That is not a real source It says 79% of VICTIMS report female perpetrators, not that 79% of men in GENERAL are “raped by women”
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/22 12:28 PM
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ehh, nah Rafael needs to develop some normal social skills and take the hint instead of inserting hopefulness that isn’t rly there because he’s hot for Allison and can’t take no for an answer
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/22 12:02 PM
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You’re insane LMFAO pulling these numbers right out of your stinky ass
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/22 12:00 PM
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Dude, yes they are, lol. Maybe they aren’t hyper-feminine enough to make insecure men like YOU feel masculine, but they are still feminine. I am still feminine, even though I have certain masculine traits. Most men are relatively masculine and most women are fairly feminine. I don’t expect any men at all to provide for me and never have. My type is masculine women. I know what a masculine woman is. What you’re describing is not masculinity.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/22 11:59 AM
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I am in therapy as I’m sure you aren’t. These are statistics. Sorry. Disliking the way reality is doesn’t change it. Why are men allowed to always be “in work mode,” whatever that means, and women aren’t? Why is it that you always complain that women don’t contribute, and then when someone does suddenly that is “too masculine?” Do you want a submissive doormat or your equal? Most women are feminine. Very few women are completely independent and career-driven. Sounds like you indeed are very thre…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/22 02:50 AM
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Most men are abusive, my man. Sexual assault is not uncommon. Physical abuse by men is not uncommon. I am not attracted to any men at all whatsoever. Women having careers doesn’t make them have a poor personality, it makes them unpalatable to men who are threatened by successful, independent women. The defect is with you, not with women who outperform you and don’t need handouts anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 10:28 PM
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It’s not extreme. Every single one of my friends has experienced either sexual assault or being beaten by at least one man. It is not uncommon. I’ve been abused by more women than men in my life. I know they can be abusive. I also know that it is more LIKELY for a man to hurt other people in ways that can actually threaten personal safety and bodily autonomy. Why shouldn’t men be held to a standard of keeping their hands to themselves and controlling their behavior?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 09:49 PM
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I did no such thing. Your analysis is completely fabricated. I said that it is less likely a toxic woman is going to rape, batter, or kill someone than a toxic man. That is correct. None of the stuff you mentioned is anywhere near as harmful or immoral as rape, murder, and physical abuse within inches of death.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 08:15 PM
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How is it NOT? you cannot buy consent. Those women are only having sex with those men to make ends meet. Over 90% of women hate prostitution and want to leave but don’t have the resources to, and over 70% experience violence, assault, and rape on the job. You “clearly” don’t know what you’re talking about, but I definitely don’t prioritize men over women. I don’t see any reason why I should.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 01:11 PM
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Explain to me why I should feel bad for a man who gets robbed while he’s engaging in paid rape
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 12:55 PM
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Never mentioned those people, you did
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 05:06 AM
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No, you literally do deserve to be robbed if you believe you can and should buy access to a woman’s body
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 01:38 AM
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Cardi B did absolutely nothing wrong ☠️ Johns deserve to b robbed
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 03:43 PM
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Nah, I said that so you wouldn’t freak out about due process and lie about how many men want to rape women. In my opinion, it’s over 90%. I’ll take the bet on 90% odds. Some beer gutted middle aged washed up dude has much less of a reason to lie about his equally nasty buddy than Hillary Clinton did about her husband who was the president of the entire United States at the time. The collapse of Bill’s career would have come at great cost to her. She should have told the truth, but these aren’t e…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 08:56 PM
1

There is a difference between thinking someone is innocent and defending them, and knowing someone isn’t and choosing to defend them anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 08:42 PM
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It is a male only thing to know your friend is probably a rapist and to defend them when there’s no personal cost to you to tell the truth. Only men know how much other men think about raping women. (Hint: it is often.)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 08:35 PM
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Against THEIR girlfriend, maybe. They will defend their buddy if buddy rapes his own gf. Don’t lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 08:16 PM
1

This is exactly right.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 08:16 PM
1

It doesn’t depend at all. No statistic supports that. You are delusional if you think women are perpetrators of these crimes on a comparable level to men. I had a blonde friend pulled into a car by a black man last night. He removed the locking mechanism on his passenger door. He tried to rape her. Women do bad things, but we don’t typically do these things. Black men are terrible to black women so please, let’s not “go there.” Men are biologically more violent. They are stronger and angrier. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 07:21 PM
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Blah blah blah. Sounds like somebody doesn’t know what femicide is or what a crime of passion is to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 05:50 PM
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Less likely a “toxically feminine” woman is going to rape, batter, or kill you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 05:44 PM
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No, they’re really not. Most men cannot do the things I listed unless they are given extremely visual, extremely specific step by step instructions.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 01:42 AM
-1

Can you elaborate at all lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 09:31 PM
-1

How is it a stereotype to say there are probably reasons young men are single? You don’t have to like the reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 06:16 PM
-1

I don’t have a girlfriend either and I have a lot of things to offer. Sometimes it’s not about you. Sometimes it is. Developing self awareness helps. do you have a trusted friend with an s/o who would level with you about what they’ve observed?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 05:26 PM
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Women don’t want to teach you basic things like manners, what’s creepy and what’s not, how to clean things, how to do laundry, how to be hygienic, and how to cook. The problem is not that you’re not 100% there yet, but that you expect women to be your mother and teach you how to be a functional human being.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 04:43 PM
1

Which men don’t do. They pick wet rags with zero interests, no fire, no passion, and no sex drive and then complain about women as an entire demographic. Complain about “dead bedrooms” when their wives were never that interested in sex, even during dating. Insanity rambling.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 02:47 PM
2

Being gay is not a belief or worldview
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 12:45 AM
0

Sex is not a basic need.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 12:44 AM
2

Bullshit. The problem is that men don’t understand the difference between “you smell good” and “I like your perfume, it smells good” The things men believe are benign comments are usually extremely inappropriate and way too sexually charged to say to a stranger
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 12:11 AM
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You need sources if you’re gonna talk this kind of shit, brother. Sexuality is not tied to privilege and circumstance, and you cannot seriously be trying to tell me that only privileged people are gay? I am a gay person and I’ll tell you I’m the furthest thing from privileged. Gay people in countries where it’s illegal are forced into straight marriages, they don’t just suddenly become straight because they’re married to a person of the opposite sex. You are a homophobe if you think those proble…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 10:31 PM
1

Being gay doesn’t phase out just because you and whoever else thinks it’s “tiresome” lmao this is a weird post
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 09:55 PM
1

probably something to do with wanting to feel safe and protected, but i’m 5’10 so i will probably never find/date a woman taller than me and i’m fine with just not feeling like a gorilla hahaha
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 01:33 PM
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no, I’m not clueless. I date women. I’ve been single two years. I would rather be single than use someone I can barely stand just to get sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 12:12 AM
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I really don’t care. You should leave that person to find or be with someone who will actually enjoy and cherish her. She should be well aware she’s leftover scraps to you so that she can make an informed decision about whether or not to stay with your using ass. Keep looking and improve if you don’t like your options.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 10:44 PM
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Most of the men here who have said they’re “just normal guys” are probably telling the truth that they’re “normal,” but more in a frequency/usual sense. “normal” is subjective. In a sense, nobody who’s celibate is “normal” because the MO today is hookup culture and a lack of commitment. Men would never be in relationships if they could get away with having only casual sex. “Normal” also means median salary(not much), below 6’1, generally unstylish and no appreciation for aesthetic value, still l…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 09:41 PM
1

“Experiences” such as being told no
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 09:34 PM
5

yeah that’s the fantasy part i agree
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 08:46 PM
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it doesn’t matter lol you shouldn’t use someone just for sex and pretend like you like them if you don’t. women should not use men for resources and pretend they like them when they don’t, either, but generally speaking women have more parameters because they are more attracted to the romance of finding a good match
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 08:22 PM
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why is “not annoying” a good thing? marry someone you actually like for fuck’s sake
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 08:00 PM
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omg what is this comment? not everyone needs a kid to feel like their lives are balanced
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 07:42 PM
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beauty is extremely boring and superficial and means little in terms of longevity for me the dream would be to meet a butch woman who thinks i’m the shit, is over 5’4, as intelligent as or more intelligent than me, has career goals, is funny and has good chemistry with me, wants to know and understand me, respects my need not to be controlled, and enjoys/wants the same sexual frequency as me (at least 2x a week) while also being super patient and understanding at the beginning while i get over a…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 07:37 PM
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lol if you fall in mutual love i doubt guy is gonna see a woman wanting to be around him and fuck him as ‘leeching,’ particularly with that much disposable $ u sound bitter and broke
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 07:00 PM
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Nah. I’m more successful than most men my age that I know. Men are upset that they no longer can get by with only providing money and shelter or for a smaller percentage, looks. Gotta step your game up.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 02:06 PM
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women being more educated and more free to be independent is not a bad thing for us Maybe for you, but I’d like to keep it this way thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 12:48 PM
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Plenty of reasons. Sexualizing lesbians correctively raping lesbians who refuse to sleep with men Reducing lesbian sexuality to a cottagecore fantasy or lesbian porn Clogging dating apps with their bi girlfriends looking for threesomes or by marking themselves as women when they are cross dressers Disbelieving feminine lesbians about their sexuality and becoming irate at butch lesbians for existing as masculine women Being against homosexuality in general and spearheading legislation against our…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 01:10 AM
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You are so incredibly wrong on all counts. You need to crack a book. 4 in 10 Americans do not believe we should be able to get married. That’s nearly half. 1/3 of people have an extremely unfavorable opinion and ~1/2 of people have an unfavorable opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 11:28 PM
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Nope. Wrong on all counts.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 10:58 PM
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Fucking thank you. The arrogance. It makes my blood absolutely boil.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 10:56 PM
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Lol things are NOT easy for lesbians and men are a big part of the reason they aren’t easy. Where on earth have you gotten the idea that things are easy, and even worse, EASIER for gay people than heterosexuals? These threads are popping up more and more and it’s a bunch of ridiculous assertions from straight people who have no idea what they’re talking about, but who still manage to be confident they’re correct. It is absolutely infuriating. This is all conjecture and you need to talk to some g…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 10:52 PM
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you aren’t lgbt because of a sexual frequency preference their asexuality is not what makes them lgbt, being trans is
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 04:10 AM
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if you’re chill with having sex you’re not asexual, you just have a low libido trans people are lgbt because they are trans, not because of supposed asexuality
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 03:49 AM
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it is a compulsion if you cannot control yourself and it seems that people who have that many sexual partners cannot. it’s less weird for men than it is for women but we have evolved past fucking everything in sight like animals btw u r not asexual if you sleep with people, that is antithetical to the meaning of the word
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 03:29 AM
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you are projecting, i never mentioned being scared of sex
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 03:21 AM
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ur so weird lmao i’m a lesbian and you aren’t part of the lgbt community because you don’t fuck
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 03:10 AM
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eh ur probs not, that’s extremely rare for medical reasons
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 03:04 AM
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Yes. That is triple the average for men and about 5 times the average for women. It’s promiscuous and reckless to sleep with that many people. Sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 02:53 AM
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sleeping w 20 people is not normal it’s compulsive
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 01:25 AM
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omg no lol
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 01:24 AM
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I don’t think I would want to be with a person who is so desperate and inept they have to pay someone to help them get a single date. I would not even do this and I’ve not had success for like two years. I know it’s not because of me as a person, tho, just… lesbians barely exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 01:21 AM
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ur not very bright r u
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 01:15 AM
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Only speaking for women. Anything over 10 is unnecessarily high. Anything under 5 is good.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 03:46 PM
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the entire redpill platform is male entitlement. they’re pissed they aren’t naturally desired and come up with ways to manipulate and control women into giving them sex. they really think and believe that women are the problem and not their personalities. it’s not a crime if women don’t want to fuck you, don’t want to date you when you got $0 in the bank and no car, don’t take care of yourself, make zero attempt or effort to look nice or at romance, and it’s so entitled and creepy and weird to e…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 05:11 AM
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It’s not primarily because of that. Men are more abundant for sure but other bisexual women are easy to find. It’s because bisexuals want a normal life, a real dick, the opportunity for children, and financial security(a lot of lesbians are very successful but we prefer more equitable arrangements. I would never pay for someone to be a stay at home gf or mother, for example). All these things are not worth sacrificing to them. Additionally yeah I would say it’s harder to date women as a woman th…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 09:54 PM
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I’m not talking about the bisexual women I know, I linked a researched study above which tells you that 90% of them are with men and prefer men. Even if the reasons I mentioned don’t apply to you (I suspect they actually do, since you mentioned avoiding homophobia), they apply to many. Bi women will not sacrifice a normal life, a real dick, and the opportunity for children almost ever. I don’t think most bi people have an equal preference. Most of them prefer the opposite sex in practice and the…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 09:09 PM
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No offense to you, but your bisexual identity is irrelevant to everyone but you if you have only dated men, and your cis male partners will not take that seriously if you’ve never cried over a woman, never had sex with women, never been in relationships with women—etc. it changes nothing about your life or how you navigate social situations. Bisexuals are often very attracted to same sex relationships in a utopian sort of way and as an idea, but they are not legitimately attracted to women in pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 07:18 PM
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Nah, the study I linked explains that almost all women have bisexual response patterns. Behavior is really what matters. For example, I don’t care if someone says she’s a lesbian if her past is littered with men. If you only date and have longterm relationships with men, you are bisexual in name only. There is no material difference between those women and straight women other than a stated minority orientation which has never even been put in practice and thus should not even be claimed. I will…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 05:58 PM
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Women have much lower standards for men than they do for women For a bisexual woman to pick another woman instead of a man, the stars must align and the woman must be perfect in every single way to make up for the parts of a relationship we cannot provide
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 11:45 PM
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I think it can maybe work for bisexual people, but I think it’s a non relationship and is mostly used as an excuse to be able to step out and have casual sex
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 08:47 PM
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I’m really tired of all this nonsense. Opinions like OP’s come from talking to dishonest bisexual girls who don’t tell the truth about their attraction or behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 08:00 PM
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You’re a statistical anomaly. I’ve dated women for years now and most of my friends are bisexual women. Statistics and personal experience don’t support that this is a common thing. Just trust that if men have this insecurity, they underestimate women’s attraction and devotion to men as a whole. 90% of bisexual women are with men according to pretty much every survey that’s ever been done about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 07:48 PM
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And did they stay with the women or end up with men eventually?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 07:22 PM
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Slight correction—actual lesbians spearheaded many second wave feminist movements as well. We cared more about having essentially the right to be independent than straight women did at the time. Political lesbians have always existed but actual lesbians have made a serious mark on history and done a lot of beneficial things for women, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 06:19 PM
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Oh yeah it’s not biphobic they’re just mad they aren’t getting validation from lesbians. Bi women know they aren’t as interested in women and it’s why they won’t date each other. It’s very rare to encounter a bi woman who really and truly prefers women and I’ve only met a couple in my life—usually their very first experience of attraction was to a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 06:17 PM
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Right you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 06:13 PM
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No, it’s almost exclusively true, especially for young women. Does not happen. If a woman is middle aged and already has kids/lived her younger years with a man, MAYBE, but it’s because she’s sick of men, not because she prefers women. Every lesbian I know, including myself, has been left for a man by a bisexual woman or been deprioritized in favor of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 06:06 PM
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Women do not leave men for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 06:03 PM
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No. Lesbians are the most monogamous group of people of all and don’t typically do casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 05:56 PM
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That’s a political lesbian and we don’t claim them 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 05:56 PM
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Lesbians have trouble finding other lesbians because we are .8% of the population, which includes people in relationships, who live far away, and who are way out of appropriate age range. It is the hardest and most frustrating sexual orientation to have. Seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 04:52 PM
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They don’t pair up because they are aware bisexuals are primarily and nearly exclusively interested in men
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 04:39 PM
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You are wrong. It is natural, it is just uncommon. “Unnatural” implies immorality or a choice to deviate from the norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 04:33 PM
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There is no such thing as a lesbian who occasionally dates men. That is bisexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 04:22 PM
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No. You are so beyond wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 04:22 PM
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Alright. So. Most women who say they are bisexual are not bisexual. I don’t believe you can actually claim homosexuality or bisexuality without having experienced feelings for the same sex, and most women who say they are bisexual have never had romantic feelings, a relationship, or even sexual contact in an isolated context (I.e. away from their boyfriends). Most women have bisexual response patterns regardless of their sexuality, and most men have response patterns which fall in line with thei…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 04:17 PM
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i was nice and respectful once i don’t baby men into basic human decency
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 02:27 AM
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he was way too far beyond convincing
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 02:20 AM
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Shut the fuck up incel
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 12:57 AM
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I have dated women, and you’re off base. I don’t feel bad for older men who pretend to fall prey to feminine wiles when all it is is that they struggle to be attracted to women who aren’t in their 20s. Older men manipulate younger girls because they don’t have the experience or knowledge to notice the red flags. It is a red flag that He can’t or won’t date someone his own age He’s already lived his life in many ways ie with previous wives, children, career, and wants to control a blank slate’s l…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 12:44 AM
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“Experience” isn’t just in reference to sexual experience lmao men are so one track minded It’s about general relational experience, life experience, milestones, etc. too The elder partner is always a predator regardless. Maybe 2/100 age gap relationships are not formed based on these things and are actually healthy and equitable
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 08:36 PM
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yep
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 12:40 AM
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lol “sex work?” do you think that women enjoy selling their bodies to strange men?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 12:37 AM
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$
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 09:22 PM
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I never mentioned trauma. Congrats, you’re one of probably 20% of men who can do this easily.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/22 07:21 PM
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First step is admitting it so good on you—but yes, my advice is to only date women who you’ve gotten to know and actually like being around. Good luck to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/22 03:31 PM
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Yup. Men don’t like successful women so they go out and pick women who aren’t and then have the audacity to complain they are lazy and aren’t contributing…. Well, yeah???
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/22 02:53 PM
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Ok? I said average, not ugly lol
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/22 04:02 AM
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Ok, I’ll go tell my parent who was molested by a grandparent for the majority of her young childhood that she was engaging in bigoted hate speech to tell other people about him Or my friend who was assaulted and abused in sexual ways for many years by her own father that it must not have happened and the reason she thinks it did was because of her bad opinions of men Or all the lesbians I know who have been sexually assaulted and correctively raped by men who think they can fuck the gay out of t…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/22 03:13 AM
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Dude you’re so far off the deepest end Women are habitually and routinely sexually assaulted at all ages often by the men closest to them—family and romantic partners It is not hatred or “bigotry” to point out plain facts 50% of your friends are rapists as an estimate, even if they don’t know they are
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/22 02:59 AM
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Ok boomer
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/22 02:48 AM
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“True rapes” lol bye every woman I know has been sexually assaulted or threatened with it
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/22 02:43 AM
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No? I’m saying that 2% of reports are deemed false by legal definition and 60% of assault/harassment in general goes unreported. 60% of the men who assault people don’t get reported and even ones who do routinely get off Scott free. “I didn’t have decades of prejudice stacked against me” Lol Loooooollllll I’m a gay person who was raised in a religious environment Next plz
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/22 02:23 AM
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Hey “bucko,” I’ll care about your 1 in 100 false reports when the number of guilty men who suffer zero consequences dwindles below that, which it never shall There’s no “hypothetical” lesbian, I am one, and I’m telling you that you are a big fat whiner and there are a multitude of reasons you have been unsuccessful, one such being that you prowl on antifeminist forums looking for further reasons to sit in your ill-decorated apartment and stew about how much you hate women Multiple women have mad…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/22 02:00 AM
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Ok so a few things You won’t be “landed in prison” unless you are completely inappropriate and constantly harassing a woman, because nothing else is legal harassment, and being escorted out of a bar is nowhere near the same thing as “landing in prison” because your advances weren’t well received I’m tired of men whining about not being able to be as forthright and sexual with women as they want. It is amazing what a man thinks is an appropriate comment or pass to make at a stranger or acquaintan…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/22 01:12 AM
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Dude, my dating life far surpasses yours in terms of difficulty. Men have it harder than straight women, but there are plenty of women to date. The problem is that men want “agreeable” and “fuckable” stepford wives. They also screw and cohabit with whoever the first woman is who is attractive enough + gives them the time of day and then wonder why they end up resenting their partners, having nothing in common, and sex dying off after the honeymoon phase.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/22 12:36 AM
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You have agency lmfao
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/22 12:05 AM
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I am a lesbian, and that word is a slur Also not how homosexuality works
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 11:34 PM
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Who exactly are you talking to? Unattractive low value men are just as bad, if not worse lol
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 11:23 PM
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“Sunk cost in terms of time is more detrimental on the man’s part” Yeah, are you familiar with the biological clock? Or “the wall” as so many redpillers reference it? Or how many men compulsively date women 10-30 years younger?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 10:50 PM
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No need to focus on the examples I provided specifically. It’s to illustrate a point. I know tons of men that struggle to remember anniversaries, middle names, siblings’ names, etc. it is not uncommon. I don’t see how it’s an unreasonably high bar to expect some personal investment from men. You should WANT to get to know and know things about your partner… that’s why you pick them, specifically, instead of anyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 10:45 PM
1

waah
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 10:11 PM
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No excuse. All that stuff I just mentioned is basic shit. If you can remember a football or basketball player’s stats, you can remember basic stuff about your wife and kids. I’d say that women also talk positively about their partners and defend them whereas men… don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 10:03 PM
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If you don’t see that you are not paying attention How many men can name all his wife’s family members, her middle name, her birthdate, their anniversary, her favorite band, favorite color, favorite food, dream car, dream vacation spot, favorite movie? How many know exactly what to get for a gift? How many of them know how to have sex in ways that SHE likes? How many of them never say they’re sick of their wives / make ball and chain jokes?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 09:36 PM
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I’m completely independent but ty for the sage advice which doesn’t apply to me at all We can’t all have what we want in life. Wait longer to find someone who fits better and who you actually like or stick your dick in the first moderately attractive woman who will give you the time of day and reap the rewards.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 08:13 PM
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Only date women you actually like and take the sex blinders off / stop thinking anyone you think is hot is good enough to be in a relationship with or to have as a lifelong partner, it’s not sustainable and this is why women put much more emphasis on personality / other traits Don’t date anyone who wants to be a stay at home parent or wife Very easy stuff here The problem is that men do not like self-sufficient, independent women who make their own money. It emasculates them and they feel out of…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 07:52 PM
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They don’t dedicate their time and money to make her happy, otherwise most of them wouldn’t be such resentful, miserable sacks of shit. They do it because they’re afraid to lose their stuff and they won’t get sex, homemade meals, and cleaning on tap.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 07:45 PM
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Nah bro. SOME women do. Very rare a man is in a relationship because he earnestly loves a woman and knows/appreciates things about her as a person. Say what you want about women; our strengths include being really accommodating, knowing a lot about our partners, trying to invest in their hobbies, and actual empathy, not pretending to be interested or pretending to care to GET something out of it. Why do men insist upon paying for things so that women “owe” them and then end up resenting the wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 07:35 PM
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Yep. They really think wanting to fuck someone and being able to tolerate them means you care about them and love them. Give me a fucking break.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 06:53 PM
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Lol. No. Most women are not swimming in a sea of compliments unless they are quite attractive. I wouldn’t say that average looking women have a hard time getting into a relationship if they want one, but they’re not being chased down by hordes of men, either.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 06:52 PM
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No. Most men do not like their partners. They only get into relationships to have access to sex, homemade meals and a maid. It is alarming how many of them see time spent with a girlfriend or wife as a chore and how many of them know absolutely nothing about their partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 06:49 PM
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I understand the concept. Y’all would not last one single day as a lesbian.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 01:59 AM
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Btw the Washington examiner is a Republican publication so idk why you expected to be taken seriously with that for a source
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 10:28 PM
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It’s very normal for men to cold approach women in inappropriate settings. I am saying that it shouldn’t be. People who meet each other at work and have a thing going aren’t likely to be creeped out by one another’s advances, so if these things are happening to you or all the other men complaining that they can’t hit on women at work, maybe the problem is you. Nobody owes you an audience for personal reasons at work. “Drop it and chill” meaning what? Ignoring someone at work after they reject yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 10:26 PM
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