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Because all their coworkers are similarly minded people who have an equal amount of social ineptitude, particularly with women.
/r/AllPillDebate23/09/23 08:49 PM
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😆
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 03:20 PM
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Yup. You gotta bring more to the table now besides money. More and more of us don’t need that, and women are realizing the inequity that has been tacitly accepted throughout history.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 03:18 PM
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Nah
/r/AllPillDebate20/09/23 11:00 PM
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😂 divorce rates speak for themselves most people who get married should not be together. straight people pick the worst possible partners based on the dumbest shit (ie looks and proximity) and expect that their relationship will thrive and surprise! at least 50% of the time it doesn’t
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/23 02:36 AM
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I wasn’t bamboozled into believing anything I 100% agree that being single is better than being in a shit relationship. Most relationships and marriages are comprised of two unhappy people who should never have been together in the first place
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/23 01:54 AM
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No you’re right I don’t care about this in particular bc it’s bogus that single women can’t be happy and it’s even bogus-er that terminally single men are hellbent on blaming happily single women for their misfortunes
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/23 01:10 AM
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Agreeing with one part of someone’s research doesn’t mean I have to agree with the rest of his research. That’s not really how scientific validity works.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/23 12:54 AM
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Huh? I was asking for a link to a real source, not random inferences you’ve drawn from things you’ve read. Single and divorced are not really the same thing and they aren’t typically lumped into the same categories in studies concerning this stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/23 12:48 AM
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But you still haven’t answered the question: what about his book is mindless propaganda and why? What is the aim? Propaganda has to have an aim. Saying something has an effect on someone is not proof it’s propaganda. There’s no evidence that this book has directly contributed to failing relations between the sexes.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/23 12:46 AM
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It’s not, baby. Again, 90% of bisexuals are with men. That is a real statistic. Only two thirds of the lesbians who were surveyed reported that the violence they were talking about came from other women, and the statistic actually does not say 43% of lesbian relationships involve domestic violence—what it says is that 43% of women in lesbian relationships have experienced DV at some point in their lives. Learn how to interpret a study properly and how to read statistical figures and then we can …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/23 12:02 AM
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Yeah you’re so right! This is all unreasonable propaganda. Altogether, decades of research from human development, psychology, neuroscience, and medicine irrefutably converge on this conclusion: Being in a long-term, committed relationship that offers reliable support, opportunities to be supportive, and a social context for meaningful shared experiences over time is definitely good for your well-being. Does that mean we should dismiss Dolan’s critique of marriage out of hand? Again, the answer …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/23 12:00 AM
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Those links are not even direct links to studies. There’s no L. Bisexuals experience the highest rates of abuse according to those sources, almost 20% more than lesbians, and 90% of bisexuals are with men (that is a real statistic).
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 11:02 PM
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What data?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 11:02 PM
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Also, you didn’t even read your own bullshit sources. Lolol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 09:59 PM
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I’m a researcher and I am a lesbian. There is almost no existing research that addresses lesbian relationships and dynamics in isolation without women who have been with men, bisexuals, or gay men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 09:54 PM
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Well, propaganda has to have an aim. What aim does “women are happy single” have? What secret plan are they trying to execute?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 09:52 PM
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A miserable marriage is better than being single for men. Fixed it for u
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 09:43 PM
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Divorce doesn’t have anything to do with abuse LOL Gay men were mixed in to the sample, as I said, and lesbians were also not asked by WHOM they were abused. Plenty of lesbians are abused by former male partners or correctively raped. I know more than you about this topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 09:30 PM
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What real world effects could an article possibly have? What are you referring to? You think Dolan saying women are happier single is causing your dating problems?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 09:00 PM
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single single single
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 08:59 PM
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This is false, bud. The sample you’re talking about included gay men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 08:57 PM
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Yep.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 08:57 PM
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nah, most married couples are unhappy and being single is way better than being in a bullshit relationship where neither people are a good match
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 06:17 PM
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So untrue. I love being single. When I say I’m single I’m not entertaining anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 08:55 PM
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Interesting you’re on a debate sub then! Might not be the best fit
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 05:36 AM
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More scholarships being present for women doesn’t mean anything except there’s a need for that to balance things. For a long while men dominated academia despite being inferior students on average. I never said I “didn’t want to do anything” about my career status. I’m in a degree program in the STEM field right now. Anecdotal experiences mean a lot when they apply to a majority. That’s why studies are done.
/r/AllPillDebate18/09/23 02:40 AM
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Why do they automatically not deserve high paying jobs? 😂 Why do ONLY MEN deserve high paying jobs?
/r/AllPillDebate18/09/23 02:38 AM
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They actually don't. Men are promoted at much higher rates than women, and women hold many more jobs they are actually overqualified for than men. A lot of men are preventing women from doing those things. I explained all of this in my previous comment. Don't know why you're parroting the same misinformed, blissfully ignorant shit over and over again. I'd like to see you try and last a week as a woman in the workforce. If you think getting sex from whomever you desire and earning enough to keep …
/r/AllPillDebate18/09/23 01:15 AM
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It is not a "proven fact." No legitimate source will say this. There are too many factors involved to make that very bold assertion and you don't even have the anecdotal experience to back it up. It's also not "their own choice." Women likely would not *equal* men in these fields even if they had the opportunity because their interest is reduced, yes. I absolutely think the number of women in those fields / the amount of interest would increase if they weren't treated horribly by the socially in…
/r/AllPillDebate18/09/23 01:11 AM
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It’s not “their problem.” Women are being prevented from applying or being interested because of the socially inept men who run things in those fields and go out of their way to treat women like shit. There would probably still be more men, but the proportion of female applicants would greatly increase if they weren’t required to work 2x as hard as men to even have a chance at getting the same level of recognition or respect. Earning a living and having sex are not exactly comparable. Don’t even…
/r/AllPillDebate17/09/23 08:46 PM
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Wrong, wrong, wrong. Men “take on harder work” because those opportunities are literally handed to them as long as they can complete half of their job requirements. Women have to be much better than men to even have a chance at being respected as much at work. “High managerial” roles don’t do shit, btw, and neither do most high ranking tech people. They make all their underlings do things for them. I never said she abandoned her career. You think very badly of women and it’s obvious.
/r/AllPillDebate17/09/23 07:21 PM
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What does one discipline have to do with anything? I know a woman who did computer science and physics at an Ivy League school. She’s incredibly smart. She was treated horribly by her classmates AND by her professors when she asked questions or needed things explained in a different way. They attributed it to her being a woman and “not belonging” in that area of STEM. Most people do not want to deal with shit like that. You just simply do not know what you’re talking about.
/r/AllPillDebate17/09/23 05:51 PM
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“Nothing” is stopping them lol Ok
/r/AllPillDebate17/09/23 05:20 PM
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Nah, the scales are balanced in other ways. Men are more likely to apply to jobs they don’t meet the qualifications for and get hired. Women don’t even bother applying. Begs the question about why only a third of your applicants are women. Perhaps it’s the right amount of women applying and too many idiot men. Ever consider that?
/r/AllPillDebate17/09/23 06:31 AM
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Hiring women does not indicate actual underqualification, it indicates that you think women are more likely to be underqualified and that you think the only way a woman could get a job instead of a man is by benefiting from affirmative action lol
/r/AllPillDebate17/09/23 06:18 AM
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Look man, I’ve talked to you before and you’re a lost cause. No use even attempting to discuss anything with you. Enjoy your miserable ignorance.
/r/AllPillDebate17/09/23 03:38 AM
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Sources below. Read em and weep.
/r/AllPillDebate17/09/23 12:43 AM
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https://academic.oup.com/esr/article/35/2/187/5370650 https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2023/03/01/gender-pay-gap-facts/ https://mitsloan.mit.edu/ideas-made-to-matter/women-are-less-likely-men-to-be-promoted-heres-one-reason-why https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20220222-proof-verus-potential-problem https://rady.ucsd.edu/why/news/2022/01-31-when-job-seekers-are-overqualified-gender-bias-may-come-into-play.html
/r/AllPillDebate17/09/23 12:01 AM
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Strong rebuttal
/r/AllPillDebate16/09/23 11:50 PM
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Women, but there’s really no excuse for men not to succeed to begin with. Men are afforded job opportunities much more readily, especially with regards to positions they aren’t qualified for.
/r/AllPillDebate16/09/23 10:03 PM
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You guys: do the exact same thing over and over expecting it to work when it never has before The thing: doesn’t work You guys: 😱
/r/AllPillDebate16/09/23 06:53 PM
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Has nothing to do with any of that. I’m talking about respect for strangers and for your partner if you have one. “I couldn’t control myself” is a super slippery slope women have heard plenty of times as a defense for much worse things. Maybe attempt for one second not to be this self-absorbed.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 05:47 AM
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🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 05:43 AM
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Didn’t you?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 05:43 AM
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Staring at someone is an action. Ogling someone is not an emotion.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 05:41 AM
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You can control your eyes.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 05:40 AM
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You can control yourself. Men choose not to. There’s a difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 05:05 AM
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It doesn’t apply to me. Try being clear.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 05:05 AM
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You need therapy
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 02:30 AM
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There are a lot of women who aren’t satisfied. We just don’t make that every stranger we might be potentially interested in’s problem. We vent to friends or family sometimes, or a therapist, but I don’t waste energy blaming random people for not being attracted to me because it’s a non issue. A systemic issue (although I’m not sure men’s dating problems could really even be considered systemic issues) doesn’t mean it’s then the burden of individuals around me to fix it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 01:08 AM
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You’re trying to make some sort of sweeping general statement about women’s communication skills, but it’s not landing because a) that doesn’t apply to me, b) has nothing to do with the topic, and c) is weirdly incorrect considering women are far better at communicating than men
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 12:50 AM
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I really don’t know what you’re talking about lol. Seems like you think you’re smarter than you are which is embarrassing for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 12:07 AM
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Don’t know what you’re talking about. Try being clear instead of vaguebooking.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 11:51 PM
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I’m not a radical feminist. Nice try (x2) tho
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 10:58 PM
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How did you glean that from what I said? What do you actually know about radical feminist theory and why are you so attached to using that specific term instead of sticking to “feminists?” The googled definition you provided applies to multiple types of feminism, as I explained already, and says nothing about your specific knowledge of radical feminism. Why the attachment to that term specifically if you don’t actually know anything about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 10:51 PM
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The googled definition you provided is extremely high level and does not say anything about your knowledge on this topic. It’s very interesting to me when people try to use terms they can’t define or try to argue about concepts they don’t have a lot of info on. You can just say feminists. You’re making yourself look pretty silly by hanging onto the “radical” part. It doesn’t mean what you think it does and you can’t just co-opt an existing term to mean whatever you want it to mean. I get that yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 10:47 PM
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Good job googling! Pretty sure I’ve had this conversation with you before. Can you name 3 prominent radical feminist theorists or authors? How about the major tenets of their ideology? “Abolishing the patriarchy” is a goal for many feminist branches. I understand that you are very fixated on the “radical” part of radical feminism, but it actually doesn’t mean what you think it means in this context. It does not mean “extra spicy.”
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 10:44 PM
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Nope! I recommend reading literature to increase your knowledge and stop misusing terms where they don’t apply. ETA: lengthening a shorthand to its original form does not actually tell anyone what something is. Hope that helps
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 10:39 PM
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Nice try at mindreading, but you did not answer my question. What is the difference between a radical feminist and, say, other variants of feminists? Why are you using that term specifically?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 10:27 PM
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Do you know what a radfem is?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 10:20 PM
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Lmao “what else are they supposed to do!” Maybe don’t take your problems out on other people and grow up
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 10:19 PM
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Boring
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 03:12 PM
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I didn’t say they weren’t attracted. I said they’d never be actually satisfied unless they had whatever they consider to be their personal 10.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 03:11 PM
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A lack of discipline and respect for your partner is definitely personal.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 03:11 PM
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Read the last part of my comment one more time to see if it sticks.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 03:10 PM
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This is what men do, too. The difference is that men will accept women they aren’t actually happy with and spend their lives pining after who they consider to be 10s. Women don’t spend their time watching porn with dudes who have totally unrealistic proportions and commenting on strangers’ Instagram posts if they’re in a relationship with someone they like and having good, consistent sex. Men are never satisfied with women’s appearances. The wider range of women they will sleep with indicates no…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 04:13 AM
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It’s super weird. One guy was trying to tell me what feminism was supposed to be and couldn’t see the irony.
/r/AllPillDebate15/09/23 12:11 AM
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I’m a feminist and also try to be a realistic person, but… they’re impostors lol. It’s all because they think they’ll get pussy.
/r/AllPillDebate14/09/23 11:43 PM
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Men cannot be feminists anyway
/r/AllPillDebate14/09/23 09:01 PM
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Depends on the context.
/r/AllPillDebate14/09/23 02:26 AM
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Lol no
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 02:24 AM
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If someone isn’t head over heels it is pointless to be with them. I want that or no relationship at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 07:01 PM
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Being with an average person is not the same thing as being in an average relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 01:45 PM
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Exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 12:51 AM
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You can’t be a bad person AND ugly and still have dating success. That’s the skinny. Good looking people get away with more. It’s just how it is. That doesn’t mean you should envy their ability to get away with more, it means you should grow up and accept that maturing and becoming a decent person is the way to attract decent women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 12:50 AM
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“Good enough” How sad!
/r/AllPillDebate02/09/23 02:59 AM
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Interesting you’re talking about retardation and intelligence quotient, considering the title of this thread
/r/AllPillDebate01/09/23 12:39 AM
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You’re interested in a friendship because you hope it will be a bridge to something else. Women can smell that a mile away. Hope this helps.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 12:20 AM
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What statistics have actually been published by a legitimate journal about this? I’ll wait for those. Otherwise, it’s not women’s problem that men are entirely desperate to fuck anything that moves.
/r/AllPillDebate26/08/23 04:13 AM
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I think you’re pretty dead on. My “standards” and desires have evolved as I’ve gotten older, but my expectations have never been unrealistic. I’m pretty clear on a few big non negotiables that are important to me, but the rest is up for debate. People are either too rigid about every single thing or go along with whatever is breathing and giving them the time of day. It should be somewhere in the middle.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 04:00 AM
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Not true. They think they don’t have a choice. Settling is ridiculous and childish. I would rather be alone than with a placeholder. Cultures in which women are forced to be married to random dudes are different. That’s really unethical as a general practice and in my point of view, it’s coercion. I don’t believe in cultural relativism.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 03:10 AM
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It’s very simple. People marry people they are not actually compatible with and it comes back later on to bite them in the ass. Physical attraction can only hold a relationship together for so long. The honeymoon phase passes, people lose their looks, kids happen, the ball and chain jokes ensue. I will never ever understand why straight people settle for anyone who doesn’t absolutely knock their socks off.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 01:32 AM
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I can def read bud Try actually interacting with a woman irl sometime and not going ballistic if you get rejected
/r/AllPillDebate26/08/23 12:33 AM
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You are making a lot of inferences and leaps that aren’t warranted because of your own personal bias. Hope that helps
/r/AllPillDebate25/08/23 10:33 PM
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No, it really doesn’t. Men are promiscuous and will sleep with as many people as they can. Attractive men are able to pull the largest proportion of attractive women as a general rule. That does not mean that women are only having sex with the top 5% of men, it means that the top 5% of men can have as many sexual partners as they like most of the time. There’s like a really obvious difference between that and “average men don’t have any hope because women are only accepting the top 5% of men.” I…
/r/AllPillDebate25/08/23 09:04 PM
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So you just don’t know how to read or interpret data. Attractive men having more sexual partners does not mean women will only accept the top 5% of men. Pls go outside
/r/AllPillDebate25/08/23 08:36 PM
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No real study says this. Not a single one.
/r/AllPillDebate25/08/23 07:34 PM
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In actuality, you have no clue what no makeup looks like. Trust me, you do expect to see women with makeup on. It’s been expected by men (lipstick, blush, eyeliner) for centuries and centuries.
/r/AllPillDebate25/08/23 04:08 PM
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No one cares lol Men expect women to wear makeup. You reap what you sow
/r/AllPillDebate25/08/23 12:37 AM
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Huh interesting. I had exactly the opposite experience prior to college, which is usually the first time men get “serious” about their educations. Men aren’t as prepared for college as girls because before that, they’re the bullies, class clowns, jocks, and dropouts. The female dropouts are usually the girlfriends of the male dropouts. Boys in high school aren’t serious about studying or making good grades and teachers are much more willing to be lenient / make excuses that boys have a harder ti…
/r/AllPillDebate23/08/23 05:29 AM
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When men act like you’re suggesting they do toward their daughters, they end up repressing normal sexual development and it backfires. That’s why pastors’ kids are some of the wildest.
/r/AllPillDebate23/08/23 02:12 AM
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You actually think that women do better at school because they are given preferential treatment? Why are you opposed to the idea that women simply outperform men academically? What if it isn’t about being female or supposed “advantages?” What if women are just better at school?
/r/AllPillDebate23/08/23 02:10 AM
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Children are not women
/r/AllPillDebate23/08/23 02:09 AM
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Absolutely.
/r/AllPillDebate23/08/23 01:45 AM
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Plz don’t have kids lol it is so so so beyond creepy you’re already sexualizing unborn children
/r/AllPillDebate23/08/23 01:45 AM
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They do not like women having choices. That’s what all of this boils down to. They would rather you be dumb and without resources so that they can control you. It’s why all of these threads devolve into a manosphere circlejerk about “I wish it was like the 50s!” Don’t let them get you all twisted up, women. They are afraid of women with power and agency.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 04:07 PM
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Lolol
/r/AllPillDebate17/08/23 09:57 PM
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“I’m full lesbian now for her” Yeah that’s not how it works!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 03:20 AM
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Men aren’t as good looking as women so I’m not sure why this is surprising. Women are socially conditioned to put a whole lot more effort in and they are routinely rewarded by men for those efforts.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 09:35 PM
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Don’t care if you fuck your own life up lol why would you think I care about that
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 08:56 PM
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Cool, so you’re a raging misogynist. Hope that helps answer your question. I see you’re stealing tons of gigs of copyrighted material without paying for it too. Really upstanding guy you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 08:49 PM
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Food is an inanimate object and a woman is a person. Women are not commodities for you to use as you please for your sole benefit. Get a girlfriend or stay celibate.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 08:43 PM
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It’s not a slippery slope. Nobody should ever have sex they don’t want. What you just described is coercion and many people do consider that rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 03:13 PM
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Sex with a bunch of random dudes you don’t know is not mutually beneficial. A sustained relationship is different, but nobody should be doing this stuff with anyone they aren’t attracted to and wouldn’t normally consent to.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 06:10 AM
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Why would they tell you, a man who clearly supports the exploitation of women, their true experiences? They are lying to you if they’ve given the impression it’s all sunshine and roses.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 04:16 AM
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Talk to someone exited and then get back to me. If you’ve paid the ones you “know” for sex, they aren’t telling you the truth, it would hurt their business. Otherwise, the women you know are living in delulu land to protect themselves from a breakdown or are in that 10% of women who don’t want to exit because they have high paying clients.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 01:40 AM
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You’ve never heard them before because you don’t know any sex workers. I know many. None of them believe what they do is consensual; it’s simply what they do to survive. 90% want to exit. That is a pretty damning statistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 01:09 AM
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Yes, it does. You aren’t paying for sex, you are paying to rape them. If someone would not have sex with you under normal, consensual pretenses, you are buying their consent and thus raping them. Money is not and will never be equal to consent.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 08:44 PM
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Tall guys have plenty of options most of the time idk what you’re talking about
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 09:39 PM
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Most of the women I know aren’t with men 8 inches taller than they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 04:10 AM
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I am talking about tall men, lol. Even tall men overwhelmingly prefer short girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 01:14 AM
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Nope. I have only met a very small handful of guys who actually had a preference for tall women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 12:47 AM
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Meh. Most men are taller than most women. It makes sense that women prefer a man to be taller than they are. 5’8 is under the average for males. I’m in the 99th percentile of height for women and men have never been interested in me—not that I wanted them to be, necessarily, but 🤷🏻‍♀️ stop reproducing with super short petite women if you want to improve your gene pool.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 10:57 PM
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I mean … it really isn’t something I need to swat away, I’m not a straight woman so I don’t experience most of these “perks” myself. It seems like the delusion comes in around about denying you have a ton of options and possibilities to successfully date as a straight person.
/r/AllPillDebate07/08/23 02:19 PM
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It has nothing to do with my personal comfort at all, not sure why you brought that up
/r/AllPillDebate07/08/23 02:01 PM
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Wow lol So how does social awareness and intuition work with no interaction or communication? That is magical powers.
/r/AllPillDebate07/08/23 02:01 PM
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How would you know if someone has rejected you with no interaction or communication ?
/r/AllPillDebate07/08/23 05:50 AM
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Wow word salad
/r/AllPillDebate07/08/23 05:49 AM
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The magical powers you are referencing are basic social awareness and intuition, and when you put it in plain terms like that it sounds a lot less lofty. I guarantee you if you have never had success with women / never had a gf it’s because there’s something going on with you and women can tell. It’s really not tough to tell when someone isn’t confident, has weird ideas or resentment toward women, feels superior or entitled, doesn’t have common interests, isn’t physically attractive to you, does…
/r/AllPillDebate07/08/23 05:09 AM
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How though? Can you explain how we are projecting entitlement to sex by wanting the right to terminate a pregnancy if we want to? “Someone else” lol ok you think that a 6 week old embryo has the same personhood as you or any of your loved ones? You value that “person” as equally as your loved ones? The answer is no. It’s more than a want bc men here will actually demand that women change their preferences to suit whatever the men in question want. Socially unsuccessful men who frequent these sub…
/r/AllPillDebate07/08/23 05:06 AM
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Alpha fucks, beta bux
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 05:03 AM
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It is strange, but that’s not the topic. I wouldn’t say they should be blamed for the abuse per se, but it’s definitely a character flaw to stay in situations like that. Then why did you say that? What was the gotcha you were getting at?
/r/AllPillDebate07/08/23 04:59 AM
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I am indeed entitled to do whatever I please with my own body, yes. That is very different than thinking I deserve to have access to another person’s body just because I want it. Still not seeing how that relates to socially unsuccessful men at all. It’s more than a want. Everyone who is “blackpilled” is entitled. Do an anonymous poll on a BP forum about whether or not they’d rape women if no one would ever find out about it and there would never be any personal consequences.
/r/AllPillDebate07/08/23 04:58 AM
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No, most women are fully aware of abuse lol. Whether or not they choose to do anything with that awareness is a separate issue Are you under the impression that only neurotypical attractive men can be abusive?
/r/AllPillDebate07/08/23 04:56 AM
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I don’t know what on earth abortions have to do with this but you enjoy talking to yourself about that all the way over in left field Believing that you deserve a relationship is entitlement. Believing you should be having sex and that the women you pursue are denying you a fundamental need or right is entitlement.
/r/AllPillDebate07/08/23 04:53 AM
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Kinda, but when discussing legitimate sexual attraction and desire, bank accounts don’t factor in. Money will get you a woman, but it won’t be because she’s viscerally attracted to them, so it’s not good enough in their eyes. That’s the whole AF / BB phenomenon they harp on rly hard
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 04:51 AM
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Women are more socially aware, yes
/r/AllPillDebate07/08/23 04:50 AM
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No, the actual point is flying totally over your head, which is that yes, it’s absolutely unfair mega attractive men get to act like assholes and still pull beautiful women, but that is literally just the way it is. Average men aren’t pulling women based on their looks exclusively. Your personality matters more if you don’t have excellent looks to make up for everything else. Women also deal with average men being horrible and abusive all the time. There are handsome guys who are nice and there …
/r/AllPillDebate06/08/23 10:18 PM
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No, not really. There are femcels but they tend to take it out on themselves and self-reflect rather than blaming the world. Male pattern violence is the same; where women are more likely to attempt suicide / self destruct when they have mental health issues, men are more likely to hurt others and project their problems onto external entities and people Men feel entitled, that’s the long and short of it. They believe they deserve exactly what they want whenever they want it. On the other hand, m…
/r/AllPillDebate06/08/23 09:59 PM
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It does support my claim, which is that male children inherit a majority of their genes from their fathers and that it’s not “just the mother’s genes shining through.” There is no way to prove all of those things are delusional and I don’t even have the desire to do that. I’m sure it’s legitimate in quite a few instances, I just don’t see the relevance at all. Stop thinking there is a formula to dating and how to obtain a gf and that will help you not to be as frustrated when you experience reje…
/r/AllPillDebate06/08/23 09:57 PM
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It’s usually a combo of both, they blame women for not responding well to their abysmal social skills
/r/AllPillDebate06/08/23 07:59 PM
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No lol I don’t use anecdotal experience to inform my opinions, especially not when the accounts are told by dishonest, delusional strangers I don’t know from Adam Changing your attitude does make a difference. The problem is that women can tell when you’re being disingenuous bc you’re hoping for a whiff of puss https://www.discovermagazine.com/health/genetically-speaking-youre-more-like-your-dad
/r/AllPillDebate06/08/23 07:46 PM
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You’re spot on! These men are pretty feminine in that way and haven’t come to grips with that. Wanting to be pursued and doted on is a feminine trait.
/r/AllPillDebate06/08/23 07:19 PM
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Subreddits aren’t sources lol screenshots are not sources Do I really have to explain to you what an opinion piece vs a legitimate study is? “When you’re good looking” yep, a few people in the world won the genetic or financial lottery. What about it? What is complaining about that going to do for your dating life? What does comparing yourself to and complaining about extremely attractive men do? Is that productive? All this says to me is you wish you were an extremely attractive man with the ab…
/r/AllPillDebate06/08/23 07:18 PM
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They don’t see the irony. They think it’s perfectly fine to hate women and to still be extremely desperate for sex.
/r/AllPillDebate06/08/23 07:08 PM
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Screenshots can be easily photoshopped and I don’t really consider pill websites to be sources either, that’s just circlejerking. When you are average looking, you do have to work harder to get women to notice you, that’s the way life is. Average men wouldn’t exist if women didn’t find them attractive enough to fuck and reproduce with.
/r/AllPillDebate06/08/23 07:07 PM
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Not a gotcha, I deleted because it’s not particularly relevant to the conversation and you would be unwilling to discuss WHY more women are CHOOSING to stay single
/r/AllPillDebate06/08/23 06:34 PM
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I never said that looks don’t matter. 50% of single adults are not looking for a relationship and that includes quite a few men. The problem is you are applying tenets of male sexuality to women. Men only care about sex and looks plus maybe an agreeable disposition and the ability to cook/clean, so you assume that this is also true for everyone else on earth—it’s not. Women’s attraction is much more complex and multifaceted and your personality / attitude / lack of social skills are def hurting …
/r/AllPillDebate06/08/23 06:30 PM
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That’s a blog lol not a real study Where’s the link to the reputable source Also, being autistic or desiring a date doesn’t automatically make you not a shitty person. It doesn’t exempt you from being abusive or a bad match for someone. Do you believe all men with social problems and bad attitudes deserve a relationship?
/r/AllPillDebate06/08/23 06:27 PM
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More women choose to stay single than men. Next.
/r/AllPillDebate06/08/23 06:14 PM
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Wrong: autistic men are usually pervy AND obsessive.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 05:29 PM
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“They” are too scared/anxious or you are?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 05:28 PM
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What is “easy mode” to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 05:26 PM
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Do you not understand what the word lesbian means lol
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 05:17 PM
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Great post. This highlights exactly what I mean when I say to blackpillers that their attitudes and opinions about women as a whole and individuals are incredibly obvious and they simply do not get what I mean nor understand why they’ve been rejected. They’re all convinced it’s because of height and their faces.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 05:15 PM
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Yeah, it’s this. Most of them are probably about average, it’s their abhorrent attitude and views about women that deter people. They don’t even understand how observable most of those behaviors are like pretty much immediately
/r/AllPillDebate06/08/23 05:03 PM
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There’s somebody for everyone, those women just happen to not be the ones these men want. They can’t ever be self aware. They don’t understand that their attitudes are immediately noticeable both in person and online and aren’t interested in being told that they are the problem. Personal accountability doesn’t exist for them, they have a permanent, perpetual poor me victim mindset. Nothing will change that.
/r/AllPillDebate06/08/23 05:01 PM
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Men actually benefit more from marriage than women do, it’s why they almost always remarry after their wives die or leave them
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 12:55 AM
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Why would women like having sex with a guy who has a micropenis? That’s a genetic anomaly.
/r/AllPillDebate02/08/23 12:56 AM
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Insane omg
/r/AllPillDebate02/08/23 12:55 AM
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I never said they can’t have boundaries.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 02:19 PM
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Nope, it’s just realistic. Don’t see how it’s unhelpful either. I’ll amend: almost all men would be happier with blowjobs and a large majority of them expect them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 01:17 AM
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That doesn’t mean he applies that logic to his personal life. I’m betting he doesn’t, and that he wouldn’t date a woman who didn’t like giving oral. All men expect blowjobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 09:41 PM
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Why don’t you enjoy it? Do you expect women to suck you off when you won’t go down on them?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 07:42 PM
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Because you are desperate
/r/AllPillDebate22/07/23 10:39 PM
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The laziness comments are hilarious because that’s exactly what gaming is. It requires no meaningful life skill to be able to push buttons on a controller Most guys who play games every day are addicted to them and prioritize them over real hobbies and their relationships, even over sex I would never date a person who was a hardcore gamer they’re absolutely insufferable with no sense of reality
/r/AllPillDebate21/07/23 12:32 PM
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two things can be true. women have been interested in barbie forever AND the uptick of posts and attention is most definitely due to the movie.
/r/AllPillDebate19/07/23 11:43 PM
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yeah no i mostly agree with you. i’m not saying it’s everyone who consumes anime, but i would guess it is either the majority of men on this board who do or a very sizable minority it seems very very silly to criticize women’s enjoyment of something like barbie for a multitude of reasons, but i doubt people like OP are interested in those reasons
/r/AllPillDebate19/07/23 11:42 PM
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there has clearly been a spike in interest apart from the excitement around the movie, barbies were most little girls’ favorite toys for a really long period of time and nostalgia is a powerful drug. there’s really nothing wrong with being excited about something that has a lot of sentimental value. you all simply don’t like it because it’s a franchise that was made specifically for women and girls and the movie (directed by one of the best new directors of our time, might i add) is continuing t…
/r/AllPillDebate19/07/23 10:54 PM
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thtatithtically thpeaking anime watchers (especially male autists) are usually coombrains too so guess it all evens out with regards to unsavory qualities i have an iq higher than that, it’s not that i don’t understand it—im just not really into the whole finding cartoons that look like 12 year old girls the pinnacle of sexiness
/r/AllPillDebate19/07/23 10:50 PM
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It has a lot to do with the movie
/r/AllPillDebate19/07/23 09:18 PM
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You guys will worship dumb anime shows and marvel movies that are the same story over and over again and then make posts like this
/r/AllPillDebate19/07/23 09:18 PM
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That’s it?
/r/AllPillDebate18/07/23 08:16 AM
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Unlikely you are subsidizing anyone unless you’re a high earner
/r/AllPillDebate17/07/23 12:10 AM
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Boring
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 10:02 PM
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You didn’t “prove” anything lol you just don’t understand apparently why the appearance of evenly distributed fat is more appealing to the eye than a giant mound of fat concentrated only in the abdominal area which is much more typical of male obesity What’s not computing
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 09:33 PM
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No one cares unfortunately
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 09:25 PM
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You’re really hard to talk to lmao WOMEN HAVE HIGHER BODY FAT PERCENTAGE AND DISTRIBUTE FAT MORE EVENLY BIOLOGICALLY. MEN DO NOT. Caps help?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 09:07 PM
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Because fat women look better than fat men as a general rule. Men don’t store fat as many places. It all ends up in the abdominal area for a large majority of men. Maybe look up the biological differences between men and women? That might help. Not really sure what else to tell ya
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 08:58 PM
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Women naturally carry a higher percentage of body fat than men do because our bodies are designed to be softer and to bear children. The fat distribution is very different on male and female bodies. It’s not that hard to riddle out.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 08:54 PM
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I already explained it. Not interested in doing so again
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 08:47 PM
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It makes plenty of sense if you use logic to come to conclusions. Women naturally carry a higher percentage of body fat than men do because our bodies are designed to be softer and to bear children. The fat distribution is very different on male and female bodies. It’s not that hard to riddle out.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 08:20 PM
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I didn’t say that fat women look better than thin women. I said fat women look better than fat men. We all have our opinions. You unfortunately are not the arbiter of what’s objective truth and what isn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 07:58 PM
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It is lol. Male bodies don’t carry fat in the same ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 06:17 PM
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Women look better fat than men do. Hate to burst your bubble.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 05:06 PM
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Will I be happier with the person I choose to marry? Yes. Until then I am happy single. I have family, friends, and pets who are great. Women are a lot more selective upfront, where men are not and they’re willing to date people who provide them with certain things (sex, cooking, cleaning) as long as they can until they find someone they’re actually interested in marrying. This is shady and underhanded imo and not at all equal to happiness, it’s equal to convenience. People who can’t find any jo…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 02:10 AM
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B, if: there was absolutely no effect on my life or my children’s lives as in no missing important events or milestones or vacations to fuck the hoes no unprotected sex ever, once we’re done having children he gets a vasectomy he agreed to very regular STD testing there’s no restrictive prenup
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 11:49 PM
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No, I’ve never cried over a man. Cried over many women, though.
/r/AllPillDebate15/07/23 01:28 AM
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No, I literally have never even slept with a man. I’m a gold star lesbian.
/r/AllPillDebate14/07/23 10:32 PM
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Radical feminism is a specific term that exists already and you shouldn’t use it in the wrong context to attempt to communicate something else, that’s all I’m saying. It doesn’t mean “extreme” feminism. Radical feminism is essentially the idea that gender and gendered expectations are socially imposed and that biological sex / material reality are the most important things to consider when discussing relations between men and women Seems like it’s on you if you think there’s no depth to feminism…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 07:03 PM
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Pretty doesn’t indicate anything, either. “Basic things like weight”—some women consider height a basic thing, too. All attraction and dating is shallow to an extent. You aren’t better than anyone. It’s how things work. If, for example, someone only likes women with anorexic BMIs, I simply don’t go out of my way to speak to them or pursue them. They’re not for me. We won’t work out. I don’t try to force someone with a preference to become attracted to me just because I think or wish they would b…
/r/AllPillDebate14/07/23 06:41 PM
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Why is it shallow? Even if it is shallow, can you say with 100% confidence that you aren’t shallow about anything in dating? It’s also not lol. Why should I be required to actively be interested in people who are 5’4 when I am 5’11?
/r/AllPillDebate14/07/23 04:48 PM
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I don’t have a height “requirement,” I have what is called a preference. You don’t have to change it, just pursue women who are shorter than you are and willing to overlook it. Simple.
/r/AllPillDebate14/07/23 04:42 PM
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I’ve been alone for 5+ years before and have preferred that to being in a relationship during many many moments. I guarantee I’ve had a hard time dating, I’m not even actually into guys and the pool of people I have to choose from is much smaller. I still don’t date women that are way shorter than me. I’m just pointing out that it’s actually not some crazy absurd thing like you’re making it seem for taller women to want to date and be with taller men. It seems like a pretty simple concept to me,…
/r/AllPillDebate14/07/23 04:25 PM
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I’ve been alone for 5+ years before and usually prefer that to being in a relationship. I guarantee I’ve had more difficulty dating than you, I’m not even into guys I’m just saying it’s stupid to freak out that tall women prefer tall men lol absurd thing to be mad about I live in the US so other countries aren’t relevant to my dating pool
/r/AllPillDebate14/07/23 04:16 PM
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Lol you’re very wrong, you have no idea about anything in my life
/r/AllPillDebate14/07/23 04:14 PM
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I don’t have any god given right to do anything, but you think you have a god given right to a relationship, clearly. I’m in the 99th percentile for female height. My height is much more rare for a woman than 6 feet is for a man. 14.5% is 1.5 men out of every ten you meet—Not that rare. Why does this bother u so much?
/r/AllPillDebate14/07/23 04:07 PM
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🤷🏻‍♀️ who cares
/r/AllPillDebate14/07/23 04:02 PM
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I never said majority. I said it isn’t super super rare. I don’t have a “weird caveman lust” for tall men. I’m a tall woman. Why don’t you date within your own percentile?
/r/AllPillDebate14/07/23 04:00 PM
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Well, but you are, because you’re insinuating that these social consequences happen because of women, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 02:51 PM
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Lol nah
/r/AllPillDebate14/07/23 02:49 PM
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It’s just really weird to me. I don’t understand why my comments are being downvoted for simple facts such as “men are taller than women on average.” It’s life. It’s reality. Just get over it.
/r/AllPillDebate14/07/23 02:49 PM
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That’s not what radical feminism is. You can just say feminism, I guess. There are specific subsets of feminist theory, radical feminism, liberal feminism, eco-feminism, Marxist feminism, etc. being among them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 02:47 PM
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Never thought of it this way before, but this is an excellent point!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 05:20 AM
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What is the actual issue? Why is it women’s responsibility to fix it?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 05:19 AM
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The point isn’t who between us has it harder, the point is that short women are men’s preference, regardless of their height, too.
/r/AllPillDebate14/07/23 04:46 AM
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Men already do this. “you’re crazy” lol
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 03:59 AM
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Like I said, my sister is 6’1 and her first bf was about 5’7.
/r/AllPillDebate14/07/23 03:57 AM
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No, I have firsthand experience. I am a tall woman. I’m in the 99th percentile. Men don’t like tall women.
/r/AllPillDebate14/07/23 03:53 AM
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It can. sense of humor and charisma are important for short guys to have. Most romantically successful short guys I know are pretty congenial and know how to steer a conversation.
/r/AllPillDebate14/07/23 03:28 AM
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Why is it a scam?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 03:27 AM
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No, what I’m saying is you need to find a woman shorter than you or one who is taller and willing to overlook the difference.
/r/AllPillDebate14/07/23 03:27 AM
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No, even super tall guys go after tiny petite girls and prefer them to women in a similar percentile to themselves. It’s two pieces of a puzzle.
/r/AllPillDebate14/07/23 03:26 AM
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What do you mean by acting completely unreasonable?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 03:25 AM
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Whatever. The point, which you missed, was that men on average are taller than women on average and end up with women who are shorter than themselves.
/r/AllPillDebate14/07/23 03:25 AM
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I didn’t say anything about obligation. It’s a good thing for a partner to support and empathize, but if you have legitimate emotional issues that persist regardless of how well your relationship is going, that warrants therapy. Women don’t expect men to emotionally support them 100% of the time. We have friends and therapists for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 02:57 AM
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As I said, there’s a difference when this happens in established relationships vs. within early dating stages, and there is a difference between having a moment of weakness and flying off the handle. Being understanding is one thing. Being expected to understand an adult who is throwing temper tantrums on a regular basis is another. Also to add—being understanding and being uncomfortable can happen at the same time. If someone is truly emotionally stoic most of the time, it can be shocking or sc…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 02:56 AM
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Yep, that’s exactly what I said
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 02:23 AM
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I see guys taller than me every day.
/r/AllPillDebate14/07/23 02:13 AM
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Do you know what a radical feminist is? Just curious. Very specific term to use.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 01:39 AM
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Therapy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 01:37 AM
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I do not buy this for a second. “Opening up” and “being vulnerable” are appropriate in certain instances and a woman seeing her husband of 20 years cry is going to react much differently than a woman you’ve been on 3 dates with. I am more than willing to bet what you’re talking about is not simple vulnerability or openness, but rather men becoming emotionally hysterical after long periods of going without something they believe they’re entitled to or after long periods of bottling up emotions. E…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 01:36 AM
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Plenty of men are 6’2. The average is brought down because of short men, not because 6’2 is a super rare height. I’m in the 99th percentile for female height so I don’t really think it would be unreasonable for me to like dating people a few inches taller than me.
/r/AllPillDebate14/07/23 01:18 AM
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Correct! 5’8 dating 6’2 is perfectly reasonable.
/r/AllPillDebate14/07/23 01:13 AM
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No, I think it’s about the same.
/r/AllPillDebate14/07/23 01:12 AM
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There’s no can or can’t in terms of attraction. You like what you like. That’s fine. Most men do not like being shorter than their girlfriends, though. I’m 5’10 and I’ve only ever met one guy who preferred tall women.
/r/AllPillDebate14/07/23 12:23 AM
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It’s not shallow, really. You guys forget that an average man’s height is about 6-7 inches more than an average woman’s height. Sucks for the short kings, but it’s just numbers. Women are wired to prefer tall men, but there are many who will overlook height. My sister is 6’1 and with a dude who’s a couple inches shorter than she is. The bf she was with before that was about 5’7-5’8.
/r/AllPillDebate14/07/23 12:17 AM
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Why do you care if women in their 20s are dating men their age
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 11:55 PM
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Your wife is tall. Why are you resentful that she wants a dude taller than she is?
/r/AllPillDebate13/07/23 11:53 PM
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It’s very interesting that men here continuously equate being average or below with being a rockstar in bed. Trying real hard and being a nice person will not actually guarantee a rockstar performance in bed. Just doesn’t work that way. Plenty of men with great intentions can’t make women cum despite detailed instructions, and plenty of men with horrible intentions can do it easily. There’s a whole range of sexual ability within every single demographic.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 12:10 AM
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Option B easily.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 12:08 AM
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Can’t have your cake and eat it too, so they say. Waah.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 12:06 AM
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I probably disagree with your interpretation of who exhibits those traits. I don’t think being an average guy automatically exempts you from displaying any of those traits, and the opposite applies, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 09:53 PM
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No, because it’s always uncomfortable and weirdness is always introduced at some point or another. Women can have close platonic relationships with men, for sure. Most men are not capable of the same with women unless the person is ugly, a family member, or essentially equal to a family member.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 07:50 PM
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Why are you the arbiter of who’s evil and who’s not What if a woman thinks YOU are evil?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 05:04 PM
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Blackpill science is not the most reliable source for information, I’m afraid. I’m aware I won’t convince you, but reality doesn’t support the notion that average men everywhere are entirely incapable of getting into relationships. Just doesn’t.
/r/AllPillDebate12/07/23 04:13 AM
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You don’t notice it because you don’t notice women you don’t think are attractive, and you notice attractive men because you are envious. No evidence besides a one-time Tinder survey is providing you with that conclusion, I’m sorry to say. I’m also sorry to break the news that most women who are single are choosing it. Being married is beneficial for men and always has been historically, but such is not usually the case for women.
/r/AllPillDebate12/07/23 02:59 AM
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No man, you’re conflating what I’m saying with your fantasy. I did not say those men end up with 10/10 virgin bombshell women who give them blowjobs every day. I said they’re in happy relationships and getting laid regularly. The population of earth wouldn’t be what it was and you wouldn’t exist if women weren’t fucking and reproducing with average people.
/r/AllPillDebate12/07/23 02:22 AM
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No, I’m talking about short dudes with receding hairlines and beer bellies. All men are invisible to me romantically and sexually, that doesn’t mean I don’t notice my surroundings in public—kinda have to, I work in sales.
/r/AllPillDebate12/07/23 02:06 AM
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Oh, yep! That’s it! Couldn’t possibly be something to do with you.
/r/AllPillDebate12/07/23 02:00 AM
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So what’s up with all the normal dudes in committed relationships getting laid on a regular basis?
/r/AllPillDebate12/07/23 12:41 AM
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And it’s indicative of bad character to keep someone on the hook because she’s the best you could get when someone else might actually appreciate everything about her Women will reject people and be a lot more selective upfront, but at least we don’t string people along for years just because they cook and clean and have sex with us Try dating someone you actually like
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 09:57 PM
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They do
/r/AllPillDebate11/07/23 09:26 PM
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“We appreciate what we can get” Lmfao aw how nice You guys realize this is not a compliment, right
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 09:08 PM
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Ehhhh. Nah.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 03:00 AM
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So why did he pursue her?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 02:29 AM
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We know it was an issue of control rather than a desire to have boundaries respected because of two things: Boundaries are about the self, not others. None of her behavior was new behavior. Instead of accepting that he made a mistake deciding to enter the relationship, he tried to force her to accommodate him. I say “force” because a boundary is a statement about what YOU are going to do, not what others should or need to do. He could have reasonably communicated “I’m going to leave this relatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 12:35 AM
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Yep
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 10:28 PM
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He didn’t just tell her once, he told her multiple times, which is another indication that he wanted to control her. A boundary needs to be communicated clearly and respected. If it’s not, you leave, you don’t continue to harp on the other person changing. Boundaries also need to be reasonable. Asking a woman whose job is surfing not to post photos of that or to hang out with colleagues is unreasonable.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 10:09 PM
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That’s his prerogative, but boundaries are usually communicated to protect the self. If he felt so endangered and insecure due to similar behavior, he should have identified that previously instead of demanding that she change established traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 10:00 PM
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😂 ok bud
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 05:03 PM
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Depends how long a long time is, but eventually, yep
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 03:58 PM
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telling someone else what to do is not a boundary.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 02:10 PM
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Why do you care if people are seeing therapists
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 02:06 PM
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Lmao what
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 02:05 PM
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This is correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 02:03 PM
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There’s no L because you don’t have a point. toodleloo
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 01:57 PM
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“Can analogies” and I’m the one who’s having a problem understanding things Google the definition of an analogy
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 01:42 AM
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I know what an analogy is. An analogy is supposed to parallel something else, not compare completely different things which are unrelated to the topic. What did she do that was comparable to sleeping with someone else or neglecting him? Still waiting to hear.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 01:39 AM
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You don’t need to use an analogy, because clearly there were events directly on par with things of that magnitude within this particular relationship. What were they? What exactly did she do that necessitated her changing within the relationship? None of the things she “did” are comparable to stepping out or neglect.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 01:09 AM
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You don’t have a point, because none of that happened. Use real examples.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 12:58 AM
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Who said she slept with other people? Who said she wasn’t spending time with him?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 12:51 AM
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You’re not seeming to compute that she was acting this way and doing these things before ever having been in a relationship with him. Why does his presence alone necessitate change? Can you explain why he expected this, if it’s not a demand?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 12:38 AM
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He did.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 11:50 PM
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Stop thinking there’s a formula to dating and that anyone besides you is imposing anything upon your life. That’ll help
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 10:49 PM
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Dude, pause and breathe. No one was a drug addict here. She was a surfer long before she met Jonah. He knew she made these posts before he ever contacted her and then demanded that she change for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 10:46 PM
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It’s only a “price” if you’re doing it specifically to get into a relationship. Most normal people have jobs or some other way to support themselves financially.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 08:50 PM
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“Damn” lol only a 17 year old would think it’s reasonable to go through life without a job indefinitely and still be able to secure a partner in this economy If being yourself is being a bum with nothing to offer, yeah, you’ll have a hard time. That doesn’t mean the people who rule you out are unreasonable or shallow.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 01:01 PM
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He picked wrong and instead of admitting his mistake, he whined about it and attempted to change her. You’re absolutely right, there are women who are beautiful and don’t act that way, but he pursued her and took issue with existing traits. It’s also a bit complicated considering that he wanted to ban bathing suit pictures altogether even though her main hobby and job were surfing.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 04:56 AM
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Great, so we agree. Single sex schools are better for girls.
/r/AllPillDebate09/07/23 04:13 AM
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So you would rather them be in mixed schools where they still experience all of that social shit AND perform worse academically? Interesting.
/r/AllPillDebate09/07/23 03:52 AM
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And? Doesn’t say girls perform worse academically in single sex schools.
/r/AllPillDebate09/07/23 03:44 AM
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No he wasn’t lol
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 02:24 AM
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He was a fucking idiot is what happened. She broke up with him. He is spinning things. (eta: as in, the relationship was over before it finally ended because of this very same singular problem) He couldn’t handle being with someone beautiful. She is a surfer, of course she’s going to have fit, attractive friends and lead the same sort of lifestyle. She did this BEFORE he ever knew her and he slid into her DMs BECAUSE of a surfing picture. If you cannot handle being with an attractive woman, do n…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 01:50 AM
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Lol You guys really don’t do any research. Girls do best in segregated schools. Boys do best in mixed sex schools and girls suffer. Boys suffer most in segregated schools. Get the common denominator?
/r/AllPillDebate09/07/23 12:41 AM
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Wonderful description.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 11:37 PM
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Man I hate posts like this because a relationship is an exchange. If it weren’t, people would be alone. It’s not a requirement, it’s a choice to enter a partnership. It doesn’t have to be transactional as in everything is tit for tat, but you do have to do things to maintain a certain level of care and love. I will fall out of love with someone if they don’t have a job, don’t have basic hygiene, don’t consider me, et cetera. Unconditional love exists, as in, caring for someone forever—but it doe…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 11:36 PM
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i will thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 07:58 PM
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It’s work as in they deserve to be treated like human beings, and the amount of shit they go through shouldn’t be disparaged. That doesn’t mean the people buying women’s bodies and commodifying them are justified.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 07:55 PM
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It’s especially bad in the porn industry and in prostitution. Check this out. (Many more sources like it) https://www.collectiveshout.org/porn_stars_speak_out
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 05:44 PM
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Yeah, sure. Who’s gonna believe a porn star over a studio with lawyers on retainer? Even in cases of regular sexual assault where the offenders are singular individuals perpetrating against other individuals, it’s extremely unlikely there will be consequences or a conviction.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 05:34 PM
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Nope, sounds like men need to stop paying to rape women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 05:10 PM
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Nah you’re being intellectually dishonest. You know they aren’t the same, but you’re arguing that way because it suits your narrative and convenience Most of them did not volunteer to be routinely abused on set. Again, 90% want to exit. I’d go into more detail but you’re not interested in changing your mind just like most other men who think this way— they are not capable of understanding because 1. They are the primary consumers and don’t want their sources depleted, 2. They don’t understand wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 04:46 PM
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Because you don’t constantly have your person invaded by strange men, risk contracting incurable diseases, and have a 75% chance of developing PTSD as a cook. Sex workers describe their work as paid rape. 90% of them want to exit. Talk to one sometime instead of believing everything you read on the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 03:50 PM
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Being a cook is not a fair comparison to being a porn star. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 03:46 PM
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Nope. You don’t get AIDS or get raped at a regular job.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 03:41 PM
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I would consider dehumanization (which is what objectification is) a form of hate.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 03:52 AM
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The consumption of OnlyFans is misogyny because objectification is misogyny. It is less harmful, but it is still harmful. The average salary made per month doing OnlyFans is around $180, which is not worth the permanent repercussions many women face after putting their faces and bodies online for male consumption. It can screw up the ability to find a job, form relationships, get into schools, and more. The “it’s not a big deal” and “you can make so much money” are both lies. Women are groomed i…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 03:50 AM
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I am talking about studio porn and prostitution. Capitalizing on an exhibitionistic fetish within the comfort of your own home is nowhere near what full service women experience. Not even on the same planet.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 03:44 AM
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wow. It is the majority. Google is your friend. Most women engaging in any kind of full service sex work, most prominently pornography and prostitution, describe their work as paid rape. There is a reason Mia Khalifa has been so outspoken about her experiences since leaving the industry. https://www.collectiveshout.org/porn_stars_speak_out
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 03:40 AM
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How can you not understand it?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 03:09 AM
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Yeah, I don’t agree with the ruling.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 10:01 PM
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This is a complicated question. Too many factors to make a blanket statement. It depends on: - whether or not the husband asked his wife to stay at home - whether or not she has ever been employed - how long they were married - if there are children still in the home - how old the people involved are - whether or not she was afforded the opportunity to save her own money
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 09:05 PM
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Because it’s pathetic to treat human beings like objects when it suits you and then blame them for performing services that you yourself are using and buying?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 02:42 PM
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No but it IS pathetic if you say you won’t date one and still act like a desperado with them online / use their services
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 02:27 PM
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most primarily, numbers—less than one percent of the population are lesbians homophobia never being taken seriously by society being left for men / used in place of men
/r/AllPillDebate07/07/23 05:27 AM
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Yea it is lol it means they have about 50% of the population available to them
/r/AllPillDebate07/07/23 05:24 AM
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Mostly agree, I would switch bi and gay men tho because bisexual men have the option to live pretty heteronormative lives and do around 90% of the time statistically
/r/AllPillDebate07/07/23 03:55 AM
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“have to deal with being attracted to women who are straight” that is some wild rationale. almost no lesbian over the age of 17 complains about this unless she is exclusively into straight women. i have never liked a straight girl and i don’t think that is even close to the top of the list in terms of the issues we experience.
/r/AllPillDebate07/07/23 03:53 AM
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lol straight women bisexual women straight men bisexual men trans women gay men lesbians trans men
/r/AllPillDebate07/07/23 03:52 AM
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It really depends on your own personality as well as how significant the gap is between your salaries. Also depends whether or not you both have careers vs jobs and whether or not you pool your finances.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 03:27 AM
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Most guys feel emasculated and out of control around high earning women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 02:06 AM
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They absolutely do care if you make more than they do. 100%. Disagree tho—sometimes the stronger thing is to actually feel your emotions and let them happen. A lot of dudes mistake stoicism for avoidance. Vulnerability is difficult. There’s strength in both responses, it just depends on the situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 12:34 AM
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Being emotionally stoic doesn’t always mean you are stronger, it just means you are less demonstrative. Men prefer women who make less, so that works out well most of the time. Wanting to lord your money or status over your partner as an advantage you have is unattractive. Being generous and enjoying sharing with your partner is attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 12:23 AM
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Than narcissists? No.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 08:25 PM
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Lol yeah there is. There is plenty of research to support narcissists’ (especially male narcissists’) patterns of abuse. Borderlines are more likely to engage in self destructive behavior and their motivations are very different. Again, this doesn’t mean they never abuse anyone, but it’s less likely than it is for a narc and it’s for different reasons. Narcissistic parents often create/produce personality disordered children, including borderlines, so there’s a link there too like I mentioned be…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 08:11 PM
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I didn’t say that. I said borderlines are more likely to be abused by narcissists than the other way around.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 07:25 PM
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I didn’t say that. I said borderlines are more likely to be abused by narcissists than the other way around.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 03:30 PM
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1.6% of people is both men and women. If we estimate about 1% for either, that’s 1 in 100 men and 1 in 100 women with BPD. Not that common. Tons of people on BPD/NPD subs have discussed this happening, and more formally it’s a hot topic within psychology and psychological research. It’s more frequent than you think. I respect your experience but what I’m talking about happens, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 04:35 AM
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Lol why
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 03:39 AM
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Yep. People don’t always make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 03:38 AM
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What isn’t accurate? I’m not saying they are never abusive, I’m saying they are drawn to people who abuse them, particularly narcissists. They aren’t mutually exclusive concepts. A narcissist is more likely to abuse the borderline than the other way around.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 03:31 AM
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Yes, this is why they are often partnered, and the person with BPD is much more likely to be abused than the other way around.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 03:08 AM
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Not always true. Hypersexuality and promiscuity CAN be defining features of a personality disorder, but some people swing the other direction. Narcissistic men are more common than narcissistic women, and women with BPD are usually shaped by and drawn to narcissists. If a guy is chronically into women with BPD, it says something about him, too. Also—these are serious disorders. Most of the people you’re thinking of probably do not have actual personality disorders, but might exhibit some traits.…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 03:06 AM
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Whoops missed it! Thank you
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 02:52 AM
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I disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 09:46 PM
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I don’t need to look into them lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 08:35 PM
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Women are more empathetic than men, generally speaking. Men don’t care about pregnant women unless it’s their pregnant woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 07:17 PM
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Ok this argument is boring now because you continue repeating the same thing so bye
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 03:34 PM
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She also said they have interesting personalities. That was the part u disputed, and you don’t even know them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 03:01 PM
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No, probably not. Unless I made a lot of money. Like enough that alimony wouldn’t matter, if it had to be paid, and this was discussed as a probable arrangement prior to the children existing. If in a perfect world all this lined up, the stay at home parent would get x amount of money from me to use at their discretion and otherwise as needed. Money would go into their own separate bank account that they’re responsible for managing. Once the kids are at school age, I’d prefer a part time job to …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 02:07 AM
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Why are you now also implying that your perspective is the same as all men’s? Don’t you guys get frustrated when women make blanket statements about men’s desires and temperaments? Your disbelief that a man could be happy with a successful and attractive woman doesn’t necessitate that being true for everyone else. Again, your personal preferences are fine, just own them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 12:26 AM
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You can keep mentioning that word and I’m gonna keep ignoring it lol You believe that brilliant women are more masculine and more difficult to be around. That’s what you implied to begin with and you’re still implying it now.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 12:02 AM
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Translation: she has to be intelligent but not quite as intelligent as you, and she needs to defer to your opinions and trust that what you think is the correct thing to think Men who think this way are terrified of women who don’t need them and who have opinions of their own that haven’t been informed or influenced by their male partners. Disagreement happens if a person is capable of critical thinking. If a person never disagrees with you, they’re either a doormat and have no legitimate passio…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 11:47 PM
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Men have inflated self images AND they are desperate with zero standards for hookups. Relationships are a different story. Men here are constantly complaining they can’t pull extremely attractive women for a relationship. Women having standards higher than whoever it is having a pulse isn’t delusional. It’s been hammered into our brains from infancy that our looks are the only thing that matter, and also that they’re never ever up to snuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 11:33 PM
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No, what you’re saying is that what makes them interesting to her doesn’t make them interesting to YOU, which is… plenty of evidence for the type of relationship you’re seeking. There are plenty of men (they aren’t the majority tho I’ll acknowledge that) who are secure enough in themselves to handle a woman as smart or smarter than they are with successful careers of their own, and usually it will be a man of similar intelligence and status.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 11:24 PM
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It depends on the career. Careers where schmoozing and charisma are required will not be friendly to incels because most of them lack basic social skills, let alone complex ones.
/r/AllPillDebate04/07/23 11:20 PM
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This is so boring
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 11:19 PM
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No, that isn’t true. You responded to her comment about those women having interesting personalities and being pleasant with “hmmm doubt it! You think that but men don’t!” “Cooperative” aka his career and wants are always going to be more important and take precedence. Why doesn’t that make a man an asshole when according to you, a similar attitude definitely makes a woman a bitch?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 11:16 PM
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She didn’t mention anyone being a bitch. You inserted that because that’s your opinion of attractive, successful women. More often than not “she’s a bitch” means “she’s better than me at certain things and doesn’t need me to support her financially or baby her.” That’s okay! Just stop expecting women to change to suit your particular needs. Find someone who already does.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 09:40 PM
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🙄 so don’t date an attractive, successful woman. Date someone dumb and ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 09:35 PM
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Sure, I do, but they might not be dealbreakers in a certain person. As I said before, it’s about finding someone whose problems you’re willing to deal with.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 09:34 PM
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That’s really not true. There’s no formula and you will always be unhappy if you think there is.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 09:19 PM
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Lmaoo man it doesn’t mean someone isn’t interesting or smart just because you don’t like someone’s personality or disagree with their opinions What would be so different? Why wouldn’t a man in a relationship with an attractive, successful woman with lots of friends be glad for his situation?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 09:04 PM
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Everyone should wait to align with someone or remain single. Nothing is ever perfect. It is about finding a person whose problems you are prepared to deal with for the rest of your life. By ending up with someone you don’t desire, you’re not only doing a disservice to yourself, but to the woman you’re “settling” for, because you are robbing her of the experience of a mutually loving relationship. If you’re actually into someone, I’ll clue you in: the lists don’t really matter. I would rather be …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 06:30 PM
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No one mentioned those things. She mentioned compatibility, attraction, time, and effort. Which one of those things is too much to ask for?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 04:04 PM
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This is the right attitude for both men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 05:01 AM
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those are very big requirements No, they literally are not. They are bare minimum things. Those things make a relationship work.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 04:58 AM
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it is not attractive to just want any woman to pay attention to you, it’s demeaning and sad having standards and knowing what you like is much healthier and more well-adjusted
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 04:57 AM
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The answer is yes lol
/r/AllPillDebate03/07/23 01:47 AM
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Doesn’t matter. I live alone and pay my bills. Doesn’t sound like you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 02:52 AM
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No. Come talk to me when you move out of the basement.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 02:45 AM
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No, you can’t 😂 unless you live in the middle of the country.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 01:57 AM
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No, that isn’t true. Anywhere worth living costs more than that to finance, not including things like vacations. If you want to live in the middle of the country in a flat plain with no nature, no decent education, and no jobs, sure, that’ll get ya by.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 12:47 AM
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Barely.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 12:09 AM
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$60k is poverty wages and barely enough to support a single person, let alone an entire family.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 09:59 PM
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Yep. He wants all of the benefits and doesn’t want to do any of the work.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 03:22 PM
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If feminine women are asking to be provided for in the same ways, why isn’t that entitled, too? What’s the difference?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 03:21 PM
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masculine men instinctively love providing and they’re secure enough in themselves not to need someone to be feminine in every single way 24/7. even a masculine woman cannot emasculate a masculine man if you bring up a bunch of conditions and stipulations to your provision, you’re not as masculine as you think and you really just want to be doted on and adored the same way women do
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 03:50 AM
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Hers doesn’t matter, but his does. Dudes be out here wanting a full on 50s housewife and don’t even make 60k a year. Unbelievable.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 02:18 AM
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Yep. Delusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 12:36 AM
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No lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 12:36 AM
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What lol
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 10:14 PM
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much more believable that a successful doctor who owns her own home is in a happy relationship than u, bud
/r/AllPillDebate30/06/23 07:19 PM
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this is so stupid it’s funny
/r/AllPillDebate30/06/23 05:50 PM
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queen
/r/AllPillDebate30/06/23 05:49 PM
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😂
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 02:05 PM
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Make friends. Go outside. It is simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 06:22 PM
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Why are you so sure it’s women choosing to be in this situation and not men choosing to leave? Amazing you blame the parent who’s still present. Men win in family court more often than women do, as long as they show up, which they almost never do because they don’t WANT custody of their children. It is not the same all over the western world, and even if it were, I’d love to hear why you think it was women who cut pay in half.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 06:21 PM
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I NEVER SAID it wasn’t. Autistic women experience just as much mental illness, self harm, many issues with unemployment, and bullying. The difference is autistic men violently lash out and get themselves landed in jail and autistic women are abused. Women attempt suicide a lot more often and are generally more afflicted with mental illness as a population, men just succeed more often because they use gruesome methods.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 03:55 PM
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Go date irl
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 03:53 PM
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Yeah, I’m sure they’ve chosen not to have any support from their child’s father lol “Cheque” tells me you don’t live in the US, which very likely means you don’t have any clue what you’re talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 03:53 PM
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Look up how many autistic women are sexually assaulted and taken advantage of
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 05:24 AM
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Uh huh. You think 20% of men are hogging 100% of the women? Or are they hogging 100% of extra beautiful women?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 12:25 AM
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I was referring to the difference in MEN’S hookup and relationship standards. I am very aware there’s not much of a difference for women, which actually makes a whole lot more sense. That’s all a lie. Unfortunately if a guy is average looking, has a decent job, and some kind of basic social life / level of independence, he won’t struggle to get with someone. If someone is struggling and cannot get ANYONE at ALL to be interested in them as a heterosexual person, there are significantly larger pro…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 05:10 PM
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No lol u lie when you pretend to be nice to women just to get in their pants despite hating everything about them, tho
/r/AllPillDebate27/06/23 05:00 PM
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Female perpetration is downplayed by those in fields such as mental health, social work, public health, and law, as a range of scholars have demonstrated (Denov, 2001, Saradjian, 1996, Mendel, 1995). We call for feminist approaches – expansively interpreted – to challenge these stereotypes, making room to consider women who are abusive, power seeking, and sexually aggressive, while taking into account the troubled background many such women possess. Lol as if feminists don’t already do this All …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 01:52 PM
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you said men are more easily mind controlled I said if. I was being facetious, since that’s your belief, and it’s not grounded in reality. Men’s desperation for sex and a strong preference for the youngest women they can get, regardless of their own age, does not necessitate the idea women are taking advantage of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 01:42 PM
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Would need to see the study. I don’t know how this data was measured or what the sample sizes were or if they were proportional. Yeah, I was talking about relationship standards, not hookup standards. I also said that the men HERE have high standards. They don’t necessarily represent everyone else, but I would guess it’s a pretty good representation of sexually and relationally unsuccessful men. Plenty of average people end up in relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 01:40 PM
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Males are around 75% of tinder users It is not my problem that men are sexually reckless and indiscriminate because of their desperation for sexual contact. Men will fuck a corpse. They will fuck a hole in the wall.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 12:59 PM
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Dude it’s not a false claim just because you personally disagree with the findings You would think any source that highlighted male sexual violence was biased against men and it’s pointless to argue with someone so committed to keeping the blinders on There is no such source that will support the idea that male children are more often victimized than female children, nor that there are even an equal amount of women who sexually abuse men, nor that adult males are assaulted at even a remotely com…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 12:56 PM
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Real nice how u tried to turn this around and make it a “poor male children” thing Go whine at someone who cares I’m bored now
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 12:46 PM
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I know what you’re attempting to say but it’s not really my problem that men are so easily mind controlled and manipulated if that’s truly the case, which it’s not and never has been lol Men are more emotionally manipulative than women across multiple scenarios, it’s been studied, and those factors are most definitely compounded by other elements of disparity such as economic status and age
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 12:35 PM
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Yeah I don’t care haha it says sexual violence CAN include those things, and it often does Again, you must not talk to women very often because anybody who has close relationships with women knows that this is a very serious, very widespread issue 9/10 rape victims are female and men are most often raped by other men, so let’s not go there unless you really want to look silly
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 12:30 PM
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Theirs? Absolutely
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 12:19 PM
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Let’s define “dominate” and “taking advantage”
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 12:19 PM
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https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/0956797611421206 https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1002/per.2027 https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2016/04/26/a-wider-ideological-gap-between-more-and-less-educated-adults/ https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0160289615000136 https://www.jstor.org/stable/25677384 I am sure you’d be able to find sources otherwise too but interpretation of the data is up to you
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 12:14 PM
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Nah, I stand by what I said. If they could get away with it they’d fuck teenagers and a lot of them already do without ever being caught. Men will fuck corpses and holes in the wall. It’s not super far fetched to think they’d be interested in minors.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 06:47 AM
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Which is what? That all men are actually just docile innocent loverboys who’d never hurt a fly? You must not talk to many women on a regular basis.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 06:46 AM
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nah it’s sad and sociopathic again i say, get some help n maybe pick up some self respect or self awareness along the way
/r/AllPillDebate27/06/23 02:45 AM
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oh ok so ur just a regular old misogynist pretty pathetic to keep fucking women if u categorically hate them don’t ya think
/r/AllPillDebate27/06/23 02:40 AM
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literally nothing you said applies to me, pls get help lol no one cares that one girl cheated on you one time
/r/AllPillDebate27/06/23 02:27 AM
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Expecting your partner not only to be ur mom, but to WANT to be ur mom is grounds for skepticism lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 02:24 AM
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🙄 go freak out somewhere else weirdo
/r/AllPillDebate27/06/23 02:19 AM
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Yes. https://www.rainn.org/statistics/criminal-justice-system https://cmsac.org/facts-and-statistics/ https://www.dasi.org/sexual-violence.php Also: https://revealnews.org/article/rape-suspects-walk-free-victims-dont-get-justice-and-police-get-to-count-it-as-a-success/ https://www.ktvu.com/news/california-releases-thousands-of-pedophiles-less-than-year-after-their-convictions-data-shows.amp http://www.leadershipcouncil.org/1/res/rcd.html#:~:text=Overall%2C%20follow%2Dup%20studies%20typically,%2C…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 11:59 PM
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Oh sorry I misread! Yes I agree lol
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 11:48 PM
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No, they don’t. 995/1000 sexual assault perps walk free.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 11:47 PM
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You think all of them are aware of it? I’m not so sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 11:32 PM
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Yes. Submissiveness and a willingness to mold their lives around his. They don’t like women who are smarter or more capable than they are. They also expect cooking, cleaning, and sex on tap.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 10:20 PM
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Unfortunately this proves my point. 1/3 is not a majority, it’s a sizable minority. 2/3 is the majority, who obviously do not prefer women older than they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 09:44 PM
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It says men prefer older teenagers (18-19) and early twenties young women to any other demographic regardless of their own age. The age of consent in most states is 18. You do the math.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 09:38 PM
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They are. Look it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 09:07 PM
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It’s definitely a mental illness, but a lot more men are afflicted by it and inflict it upon others than do women. It’s tangentially related to male sexuality at least—probably more than tangentially. Men admit to being obsessed with youth and to them, the younger, the better. Ever hear the phrase “old enough to bleed, old enough to breed?”
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 09:03 PM
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Laughable lol there are absolutely not “just as many” female pedos, and almost no male pedophiles get jail time either
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 08:53 PM
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It’s against sub rules to call out specific posters. Go and see for urself.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 08:51 PM
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It’s pointless being in this sub anymore, honestly. Just laughable.
/r/AllPillDebate26/06/23 08:04 PM
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Lmfao
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 07:52 PM
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By this metric, all men are dysfunctional lol Have you ever noticed that men resist the things women are saying simply to resist?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 06:50 PM
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Men statistically do not like women who are smarter or more successful than they are, point blank. The reasons many more women are working today, even within partnerships, are twofold: Women are being appropriately recognized in education and being “allowed” to excel because there aren’t quite so many legal barriers Men can’t provide by themselves and need their partners to work for a dual income and to support the kind of lifestyle they want to live If there’s a snag, like that he starts feelin…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 06:48 PM
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Out of necessity, not preference. Men need their wives to work because they are incapable of unilaterally providing anymore, thanks to the capitalistic framework they built.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 06:46 PM
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Yes. This is it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 06:44 PM
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Ok, things such as what?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 06:31 PM
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It’s not a belief. Look up sexual violence rates including how many registered sex offenders there are in the US vs victims, child abuse rates, femicide rates, how many women have experienced sexual harassment in public, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 05:30 PM
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Sure, incidentally, but nowhere near as much as men as a demographic. It’s not a widespread problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 04:56 PM
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I didn’t know fat was synonymous with socially awkward lol
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 04:51 PM
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You wouldn’t admit it even if I were right. It’s okay, I live in reality and know that women are much more at risk for the things you mentioned happening, especially within a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 04:48 PM
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God these posts are getting so boring So what? What is the point of this post? If you resent trying to provide for women so much, don’t do it. Most households need a dual income to stay afloat these days anyway, which causes men to feel emasculated and to become seriously resentful. My mother always told me never to rely on men for anything because they will weaponize it and use it against you when it suits them. Doesn’t sound like altruistic providing to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 04:46 PM
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Nah, that’s clearly not what you mean. What you mean is that women reject you and don’t give you a chance despite not being attracted to you and not having anything in common with you, and maybe that they flippantly rebuff your inappropriate advances. Sound right?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 04:41 PM
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You can’t “have” whoever you want because women are not objects. They get an equal say.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 04:39 PM
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Obviously my comment was not a personal attack against you. If it doesn’t apply, move along.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 04:30 PM
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I’m genuinely interested in what you think those things mean, for sure. That’s why I asked.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 04:29 PM
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It depends. If they refuse to do anything about chronic depression that is impacting the quality of the relationship, yes, that’s a pretty legitimate reason to leave. Mental illness itself might not be preventable all of the time, but you are still responsible for yourself and your own treatment. No one takes care of women when we feel like shit. We’re the ones taking care of you. I help people I care about 24/7, but I don’t want a giant infant for a partner who still wants a mommy and yes, I am…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 06:34 AM
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Sure, most of the initiation is on the man, but men are horrible at doing any maintenance after that stage. Women hold relationships together. We might be more naturally inclined, but we also experience things throughout our lives that teach us lessons about social interaction and other people. I’m not really sure why men here keep insisting this is absolutely impossible for a man to do unless a girl gives him a chance, even though she isn’t attracted to him, to teach him these skills. How is th…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 06:27 AM
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It’s actually very logical and very easy. Accept your shortcomings and work on them yourself to the best of your ability without expecting women to give you a chance. Make friends. Get a hobby. Introduce yourself to women who appear in those social circles or attend things related to your hobby. You (and other men with this “problem”) need a life coach if you can’t figure this stuff out, not a girlfriend. You’re nowhere near ready for a full blown romantic relationship if you can’t properly soci…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 06:00 AM
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No, I did not ask you “to define words.” I asked you to define how you are using those terms, because I’m sure it’s not what I would consider to be rudeness, hatred, or abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 05:57 AM
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How on earth did I suggest attraction can be controlled?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 05:57 AM
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But you haven’t addressed the problem, which is that your expectation is women should be your source for sex, mothering, and self-improvement in one. You don’t think that’s a lot to expect of women as a general populace?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 05:20 AM
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How about participate in the discussion and answer for your own statements? Why make the comment if you’re unwilling to specify how exactly women have been rude, hateful and abusive to men constantly?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 05:06 AM
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And then if they do manage to get with someone, they spend their time degrading her appearance by watching copious amounts of porn, stalking Instagram models and liking all their pictures, and developing parasocial relationships with OnlyFans girls. It’s just. Wow
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 04:26 AM
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You have, by suggesting that men cannot teach themselves basic social skills. Why do men need so much help socially? You are the person complaining, not me. You aren’t the arbiter of who gets to stay or leave. If you want an echo chamber, I suggest r/lonely or an incel sub where people aren’t as likely to disagree with your sentiments.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 04:23 AM
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It’s always a natural consequence of women’s inferiority when we fall behind in something, and it’s always artificially manufactured by society when we excel. They cannot take it and they will always want to restructure things to make sure they come out on top. Their egos won’t allow for anything else and they still very clearly regard us as inferior in every way. We can’t possibly have earned anything wherein we outperform men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 04:14 AM
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I am a lesbian and date women myself, so I think my perspective is typically pretty well informed and balanced, but they’d come up with some reason as to why I should be discredited, I’m sure 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 04:09 AM
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I am not interested in helping adult men develop basic social skills, no. If it is truly that much of a problem, perhaps individual and occupational therapy. What you’re suggesting is that women act, toward men who are theoretically “on their level” and supposedly considerations for partners, as mothers and therapists. No one wants to do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 04:07 AM
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That has nothing to do with my comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 03:49 AM
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Why not? Plenty of socially awkward women make friends and get boyfriends. Why is it women’s responsibility to teach you how to interact with people on a basic level?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 03:49 AM
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Let’s define each of these things: rudeness from women hatred from women abuse from women
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 02:00 AM
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We need to give boys an unfair leg up in education because they aren’t as dedicated or hardworking as girls? Seems legit.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 01:58 AM
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The reason they have dead bedrooms is that they aren’t sexually attracted to each other and aren’t compatible in other areas, either. Everyone needs to stop marrying people they don’t even like. When the initial chemistry and honeymoon phase wears off and people age, that’s what you’re left with.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 12:16 AM
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Right? I remember commenting on a post a couple of weeks ago in here that was a man asking for advice from women. Instead of taking it on board, he (and most of the other guys) used it as an opportunity to personally insult me, discredit my words, and to tell me none of it would work. Well, clearly what you’re doing now isn’t working, either 🤡 How on earth does it make sense to keep saying “women should be honest about what they like” when women are neverrrrrr listened to? If you aren’t going to…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 12:13 AM
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Yep. Unattractive does not equal kind, intelligent, or good in bed.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 12:09 AM
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you can’t throw a socially awkward guy into the wilderness and expect him to make friends lol why?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 12:08 AM
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Yep. Women are way better at socializing and maintaining relationships. Men form and maintain relationships due to proximity and convenience and women are willing to do a lot more to prioritize people who are important to them, regardless of barriers. Men have to generally be the ones to INITIATE social contact with romantic interests, but after that stage is over, the maintenance is alllll up to the woman. Women are the social glue and always have been.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 12:01 AM
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This is literally the majority of posts on this sub. Majority of men here want to be with extra hot women who viscerally desire them and will not accept anything else. Clearly they have bigger problems than not being able to find ANY suitable relationship, and they’re over here talking about how WOMEN’s standards are too high.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 11:59 PM
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Republicans on average have a lower IQ and live more sheltered lives. It’s the same with women who are born into religious cults and insist they’re happy. They don’t know any better.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 09:40 PM
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your horrible personality and complete lack of emotional range is the reason you don’t have success with women hope this helps
/r/AllPillDebate24/06/23 06:33 PM
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It’s very sad you can’t think of even ONE potential thing that would make selling your body to strange men difficult
/r/AllPillDebate24/06/23 03:54 AM
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I know that, buddy! I'm asking why you think I'm saying that. What do you think could possibly be difficult about prostitution?
/r/AllPillDebate24/06/23 02:25 AM
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Why do you think I’m saying that being a prostitute is difficult?
/r/AllPillDebate24/06/23 12:45 AM
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“Not all men” has no place in a debate sub. We aren’t here to comb over each individual outlier’s personal experiences, we are here to analyze how men and women act in a general sense, and to potentially inform that analysis with useful personal experiences when appropriate. It doesn’t matter if a few women are like that or if a few men aren’t. Doesn’t change anything about lived reality for most people.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 10:41 PM
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Nah I don’t even fuck men
/r/AllPillDebate23/06/23 09:37 PM
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I don’t speak incel
/r/AllPillDebate23/06/23 09:13 PM
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I’m not a prostitute, dumbass, and I probably make more money than you do
/r/AllPillDebate23/06/23 09:03 PM
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It’s not easy lol this is exactly the point of my original comment
/r/AllPillDebate23/06/23 09:03 PM
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Who is “you” I’m not talking about OnlyFans girls or your parasocial relationships with them, I’m talking about real prostitutes. How about don’t pay for sex and get a life, how’s that
/r/AllPillDebate23/06/23 08:35 PM
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Yes, they do! Such as paying to rape someone :) I would consider that a far worse decision than doing what’s needed for survival, to keep a roof over their heads, and to support whatever children they have. You don’t get HIV or get sexually assaulted at a regular job. Try again.
/r/AllPillDebate23/06/23 08:33 PM
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Prostitution is a job. It’s not my decision to work, I wouldn’t do it if I had another choice. I have to do it to avoid homelessness. Most prostitutes do not even have access to all of the funds they make, pimps do, and it’s extremely difficult to exit. People who think like you do have reinvented the field to make it seem empowering and appealing all over again, effectively trapping and manipulating young women for their own gain. Once they figure out how bad it really is, it’s usually too late…
/r/AllPillDebate23/06/23 08:09 PM
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It’s not my decision to work in general, I have to to avoid homelessness. It’s extremely difficult to leave prostitution and usually you don’t even have access to all of the money you make, a pimp does. The current liberal climate is a trap and most of the people like you are tricking women into thinking prostitution is a safe, lucrative utopia. It is not any of that and most people do not realize this until it’s too late. Why blame the women? Why not blame the men who are buying women’s bodies?
/r/AllPillDebate23/06/23 08:03 PM
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Blah blah blah. Do not try to manipulate me into falling for your woke misogyny. 90% of prostitutes want to exit. Over 75% end up with PTSD. Almost all of them have been sexually and violently assaulted on the job. Nobody except for high end call girls enjoys prostitution and you’re an idiot if you think anything else.
/r/AllPillDebate23/06/23 08:00 PM
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There’s no agency involved. Having to sell your person for money is not agency, it’s survival. The top 10% of prostitutes are making the most money and experiencing the best quality of life due to these sacrifices. They don’t speak for the other 90% who statistically want to exit. Over 75% end up with PTSD. Female sex workers are also 30 times more likely than other women to end up with HIV. Don’t try to manipulate me into conceding to your degeneracy.
/r/AllPillDebate23/06/23 07:58 PM
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Nothing she said is stupid. Everything she said is true.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 06:45 PM
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Greatly reduces risk of criminal consequence, minimizes struggling, introduces more flexibility and ease of access, et cetera If a woman would not have sex with you under normal pretenses and you have to pay her to give you access to her person, it is paid rape
/r/AllPillDebate23/06/23 06:45 PM
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Nope, it’s just life! It’s sexist to pay to rape someone, but here we are
/r/AllPillDebate23/06/23 04:45 PM
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No it doesn’t lol men will fuck a corpse, my man Mortuaries prefer not to hire men for this reason Men will fuck a hole in the wall You don’t need to be the pinnacle of attractiveness to be in a relationship, but history, chemistry, etc. inform women’s desire to start one and stay in one. Men will throw everything away for a younger, hotter piece of ass because of the way they look. We just are not wired the same way at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 04:44 PM
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This won’t work because men r dawgs Men think being a prostitute is easy because they are the ones paying for sex. They will never get it.
/r/AllPillDebate23/06/23 03:38 PM
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No. It means that men are desperate enough for sex that they’re willing to sleep with women they aren’t very attracted to and wouldn’t consider for a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 03:19 PM
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Not really. The whole point is “this prison study shows that sometimes when a scarcity mindset is introduced, people are less selective about their partners so obviously women are lying about not being able to be attracted to me and should change it”
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 03:17 PM
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It really depends how easy you are to be around and how much you make her feel guilty for your own expectations / needs you feel aren’t being met. I’ve seen it happen lots of times. If the personality isn’t there and you don’t get along, it won’t happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 05:22 AM
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What about it? This whole sub is just men telling on themselves. They don’t understand female sexuality and they project male sexuality onto women. Attraction for women can involve a person’s disposition/charisma, hobbies and interests, mannerisms, scent, grooming choices and fashionability, career goals, current living and money situation, values, appearance, cleanliness and the ability to take care of oneself in domestic ways, sexual chemistry, and for some other groups it can involve religion…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 04:28 AM
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A lot (if not most) of men are sexual predators and do what they can to manipulate others into getting what they want, older men included. It is predatory to date women who are significantly younger than you are, but it’s also common and totally unsurprising. There is evidence that men are more emotionally manipulative than women in multiple types of environments. This is no exception. Not sure why there is a constant denial of this very obvious, very clear aspect of life. If it weren’t true, yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 04:19 AM
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Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 04:14 AM
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I didn’t understand that from the OP. I said: Do you consciously control who you are attracted to? What is this obsession with trying to force women to be attracted to people they aren’t? That is what the original poster is suggesting that women do. He is also suggesting that women lie about not being able to be attracted to certain people. The studies he provided indicate two things: Prison introduces a scarcity mindset that isn’t as present outside of prison Women are more selective about who …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 04:05 AM
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No, that’s what you did. Why do you feel the need to comment something antagonistic in response to things women say if you agree? Ask yourself why there is resistance.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 04:01 AM
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😂 wow you’re funny! Most women do not like casual sex, and women do not choose sexual partners based on looks alone. Stop projecting male sexuality onto women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 03:58 AM
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Women do care about looks, but it’s not as much as men do, and it’s also not the only thing that’s considered. I do not know why men here continually deny that women’s attraction is much more complex and contains many more variables. What men care about: - the way a person looks - a submissive personality - cooking, cleaning, and sex on tap That’s pretty much it. It is factual that men’s attraction is based on “shallower” attributes. A larger number of women selecting “attractive” men on dating …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 03:56 AM
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I didn’t say rape anywhere but good job incriminating yourself I guess
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 02:59 AM
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Men really can’t handle not being a woman’s preference. It makes them go crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 09:10 PM
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The argument is it’s not “both sides” because men perpetrate this sort of behavior at a much higher rate
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 09:06 PM
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So no source, got it lol Men are far more entitled when it comes to sex than women and become wayyyy more emotionally out of whack when they’re rejected. They have a very hard time with not fitting a person’s preferences. It is not women’s problem that men are far more indiscriminate.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 08:47 PM
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What do you mean “huh?” What’s confusing?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 07:05 PM
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Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 07:05 PM
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All of that is irrelevant and doesn’t matter, though, unfortunately.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 07:05 PM
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Please explain to me what I’m not comprehending about “women are lying about not being able to change who they’re attracted to”
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 07:03 PM
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Do you consciously control who you are attracted to? What is this obsession with trying to force women to be attracted to people they aren’t? The entitlement is unreal.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 12:37 AM
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The rules don’t apply to men, obviously
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 11:55 PM
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Go out and make some friends. Online dating is not going to work well for you if you’re not savvy with it. Networking and making friends with people in similar hobbies is the best way to meet new people.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 05:20 PM
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I think this guy admits to wanting to rape and kill people and if you look up to this kind of thing you’re deranged and need to be in prison lol
/r/AllPillDebate20/06/23 02:40 PM
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well u r evil for sure
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 02:36 PM
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Do you acknowledge the correlation between bodycount and monogamous union instability? This issue, which you brought up in the comment right before mine??
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 11:58 PM
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Not everyone was the child who had to touch the hot stove to learn it was hot and introduced pain. Some of us saw other people do it and preemptively learned not to. Being insightful and intuitive doesn’t require any one specific experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 05:14 PM
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I’m not relying on my experiences, I am relying upon observations, what you’re saying, and statistics
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 04:58 PM
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I have no problem with women having sex. I do have a problem if I have invested 10 years in a monogamous relationship with one. This is projection
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 04:02 PM
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Stop projecting because you got cheated on once and have some perspective, this is unhealthy
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 03:33 AM
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I have never denied the correlation. I’m telling you that it’s still not your business despite it, and that you are most likely massively overstating and overestimating the prevalence of this issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 03:32 AM
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That’s a personal slight, not disrespect imo
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 03:32 AM
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Nah lol your projections are not my responsibility
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 03:31 AM
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Sex / sex acts and deferment are the only real answers
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 11:57 PM
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To secure a partner, sure. What you don’t understand is that men’s efforts can feasibly end after that with no consequences. Women are the social glue which holds relationships together for the rest of their duration, however long that might be.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 11:24 PM
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Latin infidelis means unfaithful and you brought up fidelity first lol Let’s define “disrespect” first
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 10:51 PM
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Okay
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 10:12 PM
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I don’t have a reckless sexual history. Believe it or not, not all of us are concerned with solely our own lives and interests. Men are far more likely to be disrespectful, to be infidels, and for both society and girlfriends to have lower expectations for accountability.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 10:09 PM
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“Unaccountable hedonist” lol Women having sex is bad if it’s not with me! Most women have fewer than ten sexual partners in their lives
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 10:08 PM
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we all have to live with the consequences of our actions Source? That’s news to me!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 10:07 PM
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Boring
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 08:57 PM
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Boring
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 08:56 PM
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That’s not what I’m talking about. Obviously I was not equating a lack of desire for marriage with hatred.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 08:55 PM
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I don’t really care haha it’s still really gross and sad to chase after women you hate
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 07:32 PM
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I never said I leak onto other people, just that men are playing this blame game and often do the same shit (or worse). I don’t accept what I don’t want and I have very firm boundaries. If something is not suiting me I leave. Please stop following me around if you have nothing useful to contribute.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 07:32 PM
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There is no one “feminist definition” of rape lol unless you think men should be able to just do whatever they want without consent it’s not an issue You can not care that someone forced themselves on you. That doesn’t mean everyone else will feel the same way. Not really sure what the disconnect is there. Women who are married at 30 have a much higher chance of staying married than women who get married at 21, and they’re less likely to have high body counts if they wait until then to be marrie…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 07:31 PM
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Don’t see how that’s related
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 07:27 PM
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Oh yeah I’m sure it is. I just mean even if they want that specific woman to be different, doesn’t mean it’s possible materially speaking lol they will never be happy
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 06:09 PM
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My comment addresses that. “Damaged goods” can’t reverse this damage in these men’s minds and they will always have this baggage. What exactly should formerly promiscuous women do if they’re interested in changing this? Also, why should women who aren’t in a relationship with you (and most of whom don’t even know you) do things in accordance to your wishes and desires? Expecting strangers to conform to your wishes just because it’s a preference of yours is extremely unhealthy, possessive and wei…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 05:54 PM
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The thing I don’t really understand about this is that men who complain about this are bitching just to bitch. They have no solutions to this bitching. It’s “all women with a body count above x are whores and I don’t want to date / have sex with them” Ok so don’t? There are plenty of men who will or who won’t care so much. I’m always confused why men hate “sluts” and simultaneously pant over them and beg for their attention. If they really hate it that much, it’s sad that they’re bending over ba…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 05:47 PM
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“All men want is accountability and mutual respect” lolol ok
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 05:04 PM
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Why are u using quotes? Do you think that abuse and rape are not real things that happen within relationships? Have you seen statistics about correlation between marriage age and divorce rates? Why would you want to be with someone who has already been divorced by the time they’re 30?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 04:57 PM
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“Self traumatize themselves” is a redundant phrase Men will have no social life, no place of their own, no physical fitness, no healthy perspectives on anything, and blatantly hate women whilst still wanting a gf / to sleep with women Women are not the only people with interpersonal issues that leak out onto others
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 04:53 PM
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Women respond to trauma in different ways and it usually manifests as a self-harming type of thing, where men are the opposite and take it out on everyone else. Usually there are tells if you’re astute at all. You don’t have to be in a relationship already to know that someone has been traumatized. Like all other problems, it’s deciding whether or not they are issues you are capable or willing to deal with. EVERYONE has problems, even if they aren’t traumatized.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 04:51 PM
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Yep 💀 they really think there is nothing wrong with them and their outlook
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 04:50 PM
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No I wasn’t hurt by a man lol I answered all the rest of your dumb spiel already you’re just not so good at the remembering
/r/AllPillDebate18/06/23 06:01 AM
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all the studies are linked individually on that webpage but thank you for exemplifying that you didn’t even open it and that you are only interested in a worldview that suits you those people are fringe and they would be thrown out during data collection no woman is benefiting from a social reject who can’t get anyone to sleep with him raping her for $150 lol wowza it is sad how little you grasp the concept of human empathy
/r/AllPillDebate18/06/23 05:36 AM
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The money is not consent lol the money is coercion, and you cannot buy or coerce consent. You are paying to rape someone. If someone will not enthusiastically agree to sex with you without constraints such as money or intoxication level, they are not consenting. Women are not “goods” and I’m pretty fucking sick of having to repeat that to you over and over again like a broken record. It’s not a regular “market” because you believe you should be entitled to buy other human beings, not material it…
/r/AllPillDebate18/06/23 05:25 AM
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Bodily autonomy means not having to engage in paid rape to maintain a decent quality of life.
/r/AllPillDebate18/06/23 01:59 AM
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That is not true either. You don’t have any idea what you’re talking about. Countries that have decriminalized prostitution still see similar, and even increased in some cases, abuse, PTSD, and trafficking. You are totally misinformed and it would be funny if it weren’t such a serious matter https://www.demandabolition.org/research/evidence-against-legalizing-prostitution/#:~:text=Many%20claim%20if%20the%20sex,pimping%2C%20and%20other%20related%20crimes. I don’t care about incels or anyone else …
/r/AllPillDebate18/06/23 01:57 AM
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Nobody is controlling male behavior through sex except telling you not to rape people Access to sex is not a right
/r/AllPillDebate18/06/23 01:50 AM
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They’re real https://2001-2009.state.gov/r/pa/ei/rls/38790.htm#:~:text=A%202003%20study%20first%20published,in%20prostitution%20want%20to%20escape. https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-30978567.html#:~:text=According%20to%20Ruhama%2C%20approximately%2090,no%20viable%20alternatives%20for%20them. https://www.womenslaw.org/about-abuse/forms-abuse/sexual-abuse-and-exploitation/forced-prostitution/leaving-prostitution/why https://www.lsbu.ac.uk/stories-finder/exiting-prostitution https://www.ncbi.…
/r/AllPillDebate17/06/23 10:05 PM
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This is a non issue lol you’re inventing issues
/r/AllPillDebate17/06/23 09:58 PM
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No, those things are morally wrong because you and all other men like you are using women like objects. Porn stars and prostitutes are actually people, they are not objects who only exist to serve your sexual pleasure. 90% of prostitutes want to exit and over 75% of exited women have PTSD. You simply care nothing for other human beings and only care about getting off. Also please for the love of god stop using semicolons incorrectly u look like a pretentious knob
/r/AllPillDebate17/06/23 08:16 PM
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I said “that’s not what I’m talking about” You’re using semicolons incorrectly btw you can just use commas That is not true at all. Men are the ones who beat and kill gay people. Just happened not too long ago with a black gay kid, and a lesbian couple was murdered in Hong Kong. https://www.jstor.org/stable/3813671 https://news.gallup.com/poll/9580/girls-more-likely-than-boys-approve-gay-marriage.aspx https://paa2008.populationassociation.org/papers/81144 https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/fac…
/r/AllPillDebate17/06/23 07:58 PM
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That’s not what I’m talking about lol Plus ur not gay so shut up
/r/AllPillDebate17/06/23 07:12 PM
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Lol no one cares about “passport bros” and women are much more accepting of homosexuality than men are The other things (porn and prostitution) are morally wrong and corrupt society so it would make sense that they’d upset women in relationships The onlyfans girl who’s “flirting” with you does not care about you I promise lol
/r/AllPillDebate17/06/23 02:59 PM
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You are a western man with western standards. The same unproductive comparisons apply oppositely too. What I said is still relevant. The women in other less developed countries want more masculine men who can provide for their families, and the expectation of that is much more widespread in more conservative places than here. The white boy novelty only extends so far.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 01:34 PM
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The post asks what men can do to improve themselves. I answered. If you want to spend your life comparing who has it harder and wallowing in your lack of success rather than heeding decent advice, I don’t know what to tell you. “Native” women live in countries that are far more hostile to men who aren’t at the top of the pyramid than here.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 03:16 AM
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There is a scarcity of mental health providers, which then begs the question—might there be a significantly higher population of people who actually do need therapy? You’re right, though, people who don’t want to improve will be useless in therapy and won’t benefit from it. I also think that you are underestimating the amount of people who have serious problems. Most of the people in this sub who are unable to get anyone to be interested in them would qualify as having a serious problem, and pro…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 03:19 PM
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Where is your source for these claims: “Most of the population doesn’t need therapy” “This takes therapy away from those who need it” If no source, what is the reasoning behind this? Have you ever been to therapy?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 03:07 PM
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Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 02:40 PM
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Which suggestions I provided are “out of touch with reality” and why?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 01:05 AM
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And it’s delusional to expect women to experience visceral, primal attraction to effeminate, physically unattractive men with low EQ, but here we all are. Most of the men in that thread were very descriptively denigrating toward fat women and said they wouldn’t settle down with her or show her off to people in their lives. That’s a fine preference to have, but let’s not undersell how important superficiality and looks are to men. They are much more important to men than they are to women, and ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 12:55 AM
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Things expected of modern women, particularly in this sub, that weren’t expected of women previously: Contribute to household bills, have an income Look like insta thots who have had surgical enhancements No body count, but also put out after the first or second date Be attracted to an unattractive man, building attraction over time is unacceptable—it must be visceral and immediate Don’t be overweight at all Be ok with competing with porn and onlyfans Pay for half of dates/every other trivial ou…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 12:21 AM
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Untrue. Refer to #1.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 12:13 AM
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Yep—I think it’s interesting, too, that they all believe life in other countries or with women of different ethnicities will work out for them. Often, male violence and the threshold for “masculine men” is considerably HIGHER in more conservative countries. It seems like a male fantasy to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 12:04 AM
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Go to therapy Go to college or a trade school and involve yourself in a career profession Eat healthy and work out to improve your physical appearance if you’re unhappy with it Find some interests and hobbies that aren’t video games or etc., things that will get you out of the house Move, if you are unhappy in your locale Get more friends and get out of the house more, socialize with mutual friends, build your circle Learn the basics of fashion and hygiene. Beauty is pain sometimes. Learn how to…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 12:00 AM
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No lol there are plenty of bigger girls who are curvy you have no idea what you’re talking about
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 04:44 PM
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I don’t care what you’re into. I’m telling you that you really have no business policing what women call themselves when you’re unfamiliar with the terminology and how it should be used. It’s not incorrect to describe most of the women in the photos as curvy, they have large breasts for THEIR frames, full hips and a tucked in waist for the most part. Similarly, thin women with large breasts, full hips, and a small waist for their frames are curvy. It’s about frame and shape, not weight. Another …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 01:34 AM
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Wrong. Thin women AND fat women can be curvy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 01:28 AM
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This is nowhere near that range lol please
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 01:27 AM
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Yep
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 09:47 PM
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Highest rates of domestic violence and homophobia are progressive? Huh.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 05:37 AM
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Open marriages aren’t the norm and I’ve already explained to you why. You’re not seeming to understand.
/r/AllPillDebate09/06/23 05:25 AM
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80% or so. I misspoke saying exclusively. It’s a large majority of diagnoses. Mental illness is another reason for excessive promiscuity in women, which often happens to intersect with trauma (especially in the case of things like BPD). I’m not really interested in getting into the nitty gritty of your kinks with you, that’s not what this discussion is about. That’s your business. What I’m saying is that having many sexual partners is outlier behavior for women and should not be promoted by thos…
/r/AllPillDebate09/06/23 05:13 AM
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Borderline personality disorder is exclusively caused by trauma. I am speaking in general terms. I’ve already said it’s not an issue of morality to make that choice for yourself, it’s just probably not going to serve you well emotionally in the long run. I’m not into convincing unsuspecting young women that fucking as many men as possible will enhance their lives or their health or their ability to navigate relationships. It’s untrue.
/r/AllPillDebate09/06/23 04:52 AM
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Sounds like a combo of nymphomania, exhibitionism, and/or some iteration of a mental illness related to hypersexuality like a personality disorder, which is… usually caused by trauma. I have never met a woman with a really high body count or a wild sex life who had a totally balanced life in other areas. I’m not saying it’s immoral, I’m just saying that most of the time it is a coping mechanism and ends up being harmful in the long run rather than helpful. There’s no evidence that women were des…
/r/AllPillDebate09/06/23 04:35 AM
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Sure, it’s possible. It’s unlikely, but it’s possible.
/r/AllPillDebate09/06/23 03:43 AM
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It all just depends. I prefer meeting women in real life based on common interests or overlapping social circles and I suggest people who are struggling with getting dates to do the same. It doesn’t have to be either/or, you can be OLD and trying to meet people in real life at the same time. This gets harder, obviously, when you don’t have friends to introduce you to people or hobbies that would be conducive to meeting new people.
/r/AllPillDebate09/06/23 03:36 AM
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With regards to hooking up, women aren’t getting much out of hookups with men except for validation, for one. Women are not biologically designed to be sexually promiscuous. Our programming, so to speak, tells us to be selective and conservative. Behavior that falls outside this is telling of something else, usually trauma. It affects women’s ability to form long-lasting and trusting relationships and I have seen this firsthand; I’m a lesbian. With regards to sex positivity, the liberation and t…
/r/AllPillDebate09/06/23 03:31 AM
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That is not true. You are projecting male sexuality onto women. Women liking your fake pics on a dating app says nothing about how they might’ve acted around you in person, even if you looked like that. Online stuff barely matters and doesn’t definitively prescribe how an irl interaction might have gone. Women are definitely capable of gaining attraction to someone over time because of other traits as long as they are not legitimately physically repulsive. It’s just not going to be instant and v…
/r/AllPillDebate09/06/23 03:26 AM
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No it isn’t lol That’s because it’s the only thing that matters to you and you are incapable of understanding that not everyone (especially women) operates that way. That’s called projection.
/r/AllPillDebate09/06/23 03:19 AM
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No one ever says attractiveness doesn’t matter unless they’re being nice to you. This is a perfect example of what I was talking about though: Women tell you “looks aren’t the only thing that matters, other things matter also” And you interpret “looks are the only thing that matters and they’re lying about everything else” If you cannot see how those two things are different I don’t know what to tell you
/r/AllPillDebate09/06/23 03:14 AM
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“Women prefer attractive men” belongs to blackpillers? No, that is common knowledge. It’s not groundbreaking stuff to anyone who possesses an iota of intuition or social awareness. The second piece with all the terminally online terminology and desperado rationalization belongs to the blackpillers. A basic evolutionary concept does not belong to dudes who spend their time arguing with women out of their league in their mother’s basement between PornHub beatoffs.
/r/AllPillDebate09/06/23 03:08 AM
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Depends on the feminist and what’s being discussed, but a lot of them do, yep
/r/AllPillDebate09/06/23 03:03 AM
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It’s not a theory that they came up with or that belongs to them, it’s a concept that they have inflated and taken to the furthest extreme because of their personal hangups and resentment, which I’ve mentioned already now. We can’t all be 10/10s. That’s life. Get over it or become a pitiful spectacle.
/r/AllPillDebate09/06/23 03:03 AM
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No, that’s incorrect. Blackpillers’ interpretations of statistics are almost always personal and almost never impartial. The ability to understand and interpret data matters as much as the data itself. For example: Statistics say women prefer attractive men (true, generally) Their interpretation: “Women hate everyone who is not a multimillionaire Chad with an 8 inch cock and are incapable of being attracted to or sustaining relationships with normal men”
/r/AllPillDebate09/06/23 02:58 AM
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Researching only your viewpoint is confirmation bias, not science.
/r/AllPillDebate09/06/23 02:55 AM
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They don’t have any arguments, they have personal hangups and a boatload of resentment
/r/AllPillDebate09/06/23 01:53 AM
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i mean, yeah lol blackpillers are whiny babies and speaking with them is almost never productive
/r/AllPillDebate09/06/23 12:11 AM
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This is not a gendered issue. Most people, regardless of gender/sex and sexual orientation, pick horrible partners for themselves based on stupid superficial reasons.
/r/AllPillDebate09/06/23 12:10 AM
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K
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 09:52 PM
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I never said that it was. I’m disputing your statement that “butch lesbians aren’t attractive.” Men are still very much physically attracted to them and lesbians like butches. You’ve edited your comment now to be clearer but that’s a lot of the reason this shit gets all twisted up in conversations like this. Another point is that butches and twinks (which really isn’t a word for straight ppl to use btw lol) are on the furthest end of the spectrum in either direction for outliers. There are many …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 09:34 PM
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Butch lesbians’ appearance really has nothing to do with their attractiveness to men unless he’s really obsessed with a hyper feminine appearance. It’s the masculine personality traits that are a deterrent. Alllll my butch friends get routinely hit on by men still.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 09:25 PM
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Butch lesbians are attractive to me. There is someone for everyone. Outliers aren’t doing anything wrong by being outliers.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 09:20 PM
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The problem is not saying men and women are different, because they are. The problem is assigning moral inferiority to outliers like masculine women and feminine men. Nobody is 100% anything, people are individuals. It just happens to be that most women lean feminine as most men lean masculine. It’s biology and years of civilization informing each other. A lot of the guys in here who complain about women being big nasty evil witches are much more feminine than they’d like to admit and aren’t up …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 09:15 PM
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Yes, I agree, porn addicts are unwell and definitely need therapy. After all, who in their right mind would think a woman being paid to show you her body parts enjoys your company and looks forward to your messages? It’s very pathetic and out of touch with reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 09:17 PM
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Those people are adults and I have no sympathy for them whatsoever. They are not children being taken advantage of.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 08:16 PM
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That’s not what they do. I’m not saying it’s the same as full service sex work, but women who make enough money to support themselves on OF are working more than 40 hours a week. Define “dishonest.” A man created OnlyFans. Foh
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 08:04 PM
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You’re missing the point. I’m aware of that. The point is that if you impregnate someone, you are responsible for that child’s care and welfare as much as their mother. If you don’t make enough money to afford daycare, having a stay at home parent is the logical option, it’s not a luxurious choice the way you’re insinuating it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 03:42 PM
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If it makes money, pretty sure it’s a real job.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 02:55 PM
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You think prostitution isn’t a real job? Guaranteed it is harder and more dangerous than anything you have ever done.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 01:26 PM
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How doesn’t it?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 01:19 PM
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Not really. Women who only see extremely rich clients on their terms and make $$$$ are probably doing fine and might be telling the truth when they say they like their jobs. They’re just not representative of the other 90% who want to stop/exit because it’s all extremely degrading and unlike anything else People’s attitudes about this stuff are all over the place, it’s not a monolith
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 04:37 AM
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From the government, yes. Universal basic income is a need for many, not just SAHPs. From a spouse, I don’t know. Probably there should be some kind of allowance that extends beyond basic necessities depending on the salary being made. There is a lot of potential for financial abuse otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 10:02 PM
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Yes, and so is impregnating someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 10:00 PM
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Yep.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 08:41 PM
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Right, yep. And who created onlyfans? Who runs the majority of commercial porn studios? Who are the majority of people involved in sex and human trafficking? Who are the majority of consumers of this stuff? Who develops parasocial relationships w these women? I’ll give you a hint: it’s men. 90% of prostitutes (who are actually sex workers and putting their lives on the line every day) want to exit. Every porn star who’s exited says it was the worst experience of her life. Women “pretend” these t…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 08:39 PM
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Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 08:33 PM
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Why is it so painful to be rejected by a person you barely know? God damn lol sad
/r/AllPillDebate06/06/23 06:28 PM
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Absolutely right. No orgasms to be gained and a whole lot of physical / emotional risk. Why would we? (except for the ppl who need validation, of course, which is the CHIEF reason some women are all over the place with sexual encounters)
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 06:03 PM
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Nah, I’ve never expected that I would get a person who’s a 10/10, and I don’t want one. That is all male fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 04:04 PM
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Men’s fears, especially the ones which are unsubstantiated and based on what THEY (not their wives) would do in any given situation, are irrelevant. If you cannot help living in a fantasy world and being overcome with resentment bc u cannot achieve that fantasy world, that’s mental illness and warrants help from a professional.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 03:22 PM
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Yeah it’s definitely the opposite, but a few blackpillers have been posting here and in other similar subs complaining about lesbians and how they’re “choosing” to steal women. So like.. homophobia and desperate delusion all rolled into one
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 03:18 PM
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“Abuse of men” u mean women having awareness? Doesn’t count as abuse I’m sorry to say! If some of you are statisticians or scientists or researchers, good luck! Otherwise, doesn’t matter. If men show up in family court they’re more likely to win custody. Most of them just don’t show up because they don’t want custody.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 03:05 PM
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Stop marrying and staying with people you have nothing in common with except initial attraction! Hope this helps
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 03:11 AM
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Stop marrying and staying with people you have nothing in common with except initial attraction! Hope this helps
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 03:09 AM
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Here’s a question: who fucking cares? This is projection. Men want the hottest hotties and leave their wives of decades for younger, more attractive women. Don’t see a lot of women leaving their lazy beergutted husbands for cHaD. It’s literally okay to not be the most attractive person in the world. It’s impossible for everyone to be that. Most of us aren’t. Are you going to let that preclude you from experiencing a relationship? If yes, don’t feel bad for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 12:04 AM
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The imagined “lesbians are stealing all the women” crap I keep seeing around here and similar subs, no doubt As if that is even logistically possible lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 12:00 AM
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Less arousal? The clitoris is a much more sensitive organ than the penis. Men simply don’t know how to fuck. It’s okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 11:17 PM
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Yep. I am a feminist who frequently criticizes the sex positivity movement and hookup culture, particularly for women’s part. Maybe I have noticed its effects more? I only date women and have definitely noticed it negatively affecting sexual relationships with them.
/r/AllPillDebate05/06/23 05:51 AM
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That’s nice!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 05:04 AM
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My behavior doesn’t need to be corrected. I’m not behaving in any way that is harming you by talking about data.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 04:27 AM
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~1 in 3 college students in a study admitted that they would rape a woman if there were no repercussions, so I think yeah it’s safe to say at least 50% of men have confided in their friends similar desires. My experience isn’t the minority. Women talk to each other. What you’re not getting is that until the majority of men are safe to be around, women will be vigilant and suspect strangers. As a counter to your “some guy somewhere did it once so all men are being blamed,” it’s actually quite the…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 04:25 AM
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Why is it often wrong? What problems do men systemically experience that have been caused by women? I’m not talking about male CEOs. “Majority” also includes most laypeople, and even homeless men are perps of a lot of the same stuff. Their lives being sad doesn’t preclude them from bad behavior and being violent. Homeless women are like 5x more likely to be assaulted than housed women, and they’re certainly less capable of physically defending themselves against threats than men. Women do contri…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 03:28 AM
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What’s the problem with saying men create most of your problems? That is true. What would satisfy you as a response to speaking about your problems on a public forum? What is the damaging behavior that can be tweaked that you’re talking about? How should women go about fixing these things for you? All genuine questions, because I don’t know the answers.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 03:02 AM
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Of course it is. I'm an individual, I have committed no crimes, I have never put myself upon a woman, nor have I cat-called, wolf-whistled, cornered a woman, interfered with a woman without consent or invitation, coerced or manipulated my way to sex, or any of the other many miserable traits commonly applied to men in these discussions. You’re in the minority, and the longer you continue not to understand that, the more alienated you will make women feel. I have a lot of butch friends whose prim…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 02:53 AM
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I can respect that you have an unusual lived experience and still think it doesn’t apply to the majority of men. Again, these extremely individual and personalized concerns are for a therapeutic relationship to address, not a girlfriend or random women on the internet. Men didn’t spearhead the feminist movement, so I’m not sure why women are being expected to stick our necks out trying to fix your problems. a) most of the time they’re not caused by us, and b) we have our own shit to be dealing w…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 02:38 AM
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They’re not projections, they’re things that have actually happened countless times across history by men of all different religions, creeds, colors, ethnicities, and sociopolitical statuses. It’s really not far off base to assume these things also apply to you, because they don’t know you. If something doesn’t apply to you, move along. I don’t freak out when men here call me a “stupid slut” and a “spat on whore” and a “misandrist” (lol) because I know myself and know none of those things apply …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 02:29 AM
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The difference here is that the personal experiences men talk about here are typically not widespread experiences. You guys cannot handle things being discussed in general terms and feeling excluded from being an oppressed class. The hurt feelings are so blinding for you (general you) and cause so much personal strife that you cannot see beyond them and end up thinking this stuff occurs a lot more than it does. “False rape accusations” is one of these things. On the other hand, I’m lucky to not …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 02:05 AM
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95% of the people who beat their partners within an inch of their lives are men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 01:58 AM
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You’re wrong. Women will call themselves lesbians and do this. Happens all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 01:57 AM
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Not so much. Can’t reply to your other comment btw cuz that guy blocked me, but men are very comfortable telling other people what they think, and in a very confident manner, I might add, even when they’re off base. Women are less likely to speak out about something unless they’ve got the goods to back it up, and even when we do, we are still dismissed. Other men are the only people men respect and consider experts.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 01:51 AM
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Men here (and probably everywhere tbh) believe that if they have not personally experienced something, it must not be real and must be something greatly exaggerated by women. They neglect to understand it’s because they simply .. never have to go through a lot of this stuff and thus have no conception of it lmao I’ve had men tell me today that women are just as likely to be perps of sexual violence, that men are just as afraid of being assaulted in public because they aren’t “navy seals,” that t…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 01:14 AM
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Yep lol check this thread out https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/140qvcl/everyone_should_respect_other_peoples_lived/jmwzbfo/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1&context=3
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 12:50 AM
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I’ve already explained this a few times and I’m pretty disinterested in going over it again. Everyone has a self preservation instinct, but women’s is more prominent. Women generally have higher anxiety and are generally much more cautious. Men will die doing a bet that was supposed to earn them $10.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 12:49 AM
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I think for women it’s both. Most (not all, and I’ll be the first to disagree otherwise) of the things women say here can be supported by peer reviewed journals and statistics, and we care about these things because they hit close to home as well. Some other dude in this thread consistently denies statistics and says they are all misandrists and aren’t telling the truth, so 👩🏻 I do think that civil discussion is really hampered by assumptions and an unwillingness to even TRY to understand the ot…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 11:40 PM
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Nah. It’s an evolutionary trait. It’s there because a real threat exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 11:36 PM
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I don’t work for the Pew Research Center or the University of Tasmania.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 10:55 PM
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I get you. I think the biggest problem here is that the men who claim these things “happen” because of personal experiences with said things are assuming they happen very frequently. Often that is not the case. I think men here are more concerned with how something has made them feel on a personal level and cannot see beyond it; whereas even if I have not been raped, I know that’s happened to most women in my circle and I am the exception.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 10:53 PM
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Other individual differences are also apparent, with males consistently reporting engaging in more emotional manipulation than females (Bacon & Regan, 2016; Grieve & Mahar, 2010; Grieve & Panebianco, 2013; Hyde & Grieve, 2018). Women are much more likely than men to say dating has gotten harder (55% vs. 39%). Black women (62%) are more likely than Hispanic women (50%) to say dating has gotten harder, while 55% of White women say the same. Only 9% of Black women say dating has gotten easier in th…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 10:51 PM
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Your claims are unsubstantiated. Dating is riskier for women and men are more emotionally manipulative. Proof provided.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 10:44 PM
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https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0191886918305282 https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2020/08/20/public-attitudes-about-todays-dating-landscape/ Have fun
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 10:41 PM
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Ok, I’ll concede—the majority of the time, that’s not what happens. Some women here are dishonest about their dating patterns, whether intentionally or not. Most men here are dishonest about male sexual violence toward women (and other men) and systemic misogyny’s impact. First point is regarding a social privilege no one is owed(dating), second point is regarding human rights and general social welfare. It’s a comparison of apples and oranges more often than not.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 10:40 PM
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What’s the truth
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 10:34 PM
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This isn’t what happens. Women correct men when men try to control the narrative with regard to women’s experiences. Men don’t like to be corrected, even if they can easily be proven wrong with studies as well as personal accounts from women. I hear all this talk about how much women victimize themselves, but I actually see way more men here identifying with a victim role/narrative (mostly based on emotion and personal opinion/hearsay rather than any actual data or firsthand experience) and sugg…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 10:34 PM
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Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 10:29 PM
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No empathy. Just complaints.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 10:27 PM
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I understand how that could feel bad, and I’m not minimizing it, especially not for a ten year old. However, for adult males, it’s pretty understandable if you put yourself in women’s shoes for a couple of minutes. My apprehension dials way down (it’s never turned off tho) around men I know well.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 10:21 PM
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It’s not fear mongering. Omg lol this is really rich. You actually believe that women are afraid of men because of media coverage?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 10:15 PM
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None of those sources claim that women are perps against men more than other men. None of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 10:05 PM
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Lol, ok. Clearly your personal opinions trump facts. Have a nice day.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 09:21 PM
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You are a homophobe. Point blank. Gay people do not choose their sexual orientation the same way you didn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 09:01 PM
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Did you experience that? Because I have experienced sexual harassment and unwanted touching in public. https://webshare.law.ucla.edu/Faculty/bibs/stemple/Stemple-SexualVictimizationPerpetratedFinal.pdf Page 4. Your own source disagrees with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 09:00 PM
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Ok, then go fuck men
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 08:40 PM
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Yeah, how often does all of that happen, though? Sounds like a specific scenario that’s been dreamed up as a revenge fantasy by men who don’t like to validate the reality of women’s experiences. 99% of perps of sexual violence are men. I can provide countless sources. The burden is on you to disprove it, and you can’t because your argument is built on sand and personal opinions. “Adding things up” isn’t how statistics are interpreted. Link the source.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 08:27 PM
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I did not say it “isn’t that bad.” I said penetration is a different animal and worse than not being penetrated. I never said sexual violence against men (and women, for that matter) who aren’t penetrated isn’t bad—just that it adds another element, which is potential physical, bodily harm. Men also do not contract STDs as easily as women, so there’s an increased risk there. I’m not spreading misinformation. Find a single study that says women perpetrate sexual violence against men more often th…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 08:11 PM
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Well, misandry’s not real, so problem solved!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 08:04 PM
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Buddy, I have lived experience AND statistics on my side. You have neither. It’s not just the media convincing women they should be scared. They’re just reporting it more often.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 07:57 PM
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Penetration is different than anything else, I’m sorry to say. Penetration is not only mentally and emotionally traumatizing(like all other forms of SV), it can physically damage women (and men, who are raped anally) as well. All sexual violence is bad, but again, men are overwhelmingly the majority of rapists and the majority perpetrators of all other types of sexual violence. There is no study in the world, even in countries where men can legally be victims of rape, which supports the claim th…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 07:56 PM
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It is true. Men are overwhelmingly the majority of perpetrators of sexual violence. Like 90%+. That’s not to say things don’t happen to men, it’s just saying that more likely than not, another man will be the perpetrator.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 07:50 PM
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Nah, sorry. You think it’s unrealistic because you have no conception of it. Not understanding something does not actually mean it doesn’t happen to other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 07:50 PM
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I’m sure they feel it to an extent, but every man I’ve ever spoken to doesn’t understand why I have a stabber and pepper spray on my keychain, why I don’t walk to my car alone at night after work, why I’m constantly checking over my shoulder if I feel like someone is following me, etc. It’s just not the same. It makes women less likely to trust you if you try to insist that it is. Means you don’t have empathy for another kind of experience and need to do/experience something firsthand to believe…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 07:22 PM
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Bye now
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 07:13 PM
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No it’s not 😂 homosexuality is naturally occurring, it’s just rare. There is a difference between rare and unnatural. Educate yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 07:12 PM
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You’re fucking annoying man
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 07:10 PM
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I can’t debate you or “challenge my views” if I don’t know what you’re talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 07:08 PM
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Why would you comment at all if you can’t explain yourself? My comment was about self preservation and protecting oneself when in public, it had nothing to do with how “disposable” men are. I never implied it anywhere either. That is you projecting your interpretation of my words onto me.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 07:05 PM
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From women? Nah. Most of the time it’s from other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 07:04 PM
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Yep, still not making any sense. Gonna have to explain your tinfoil hat argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 06:51 PM
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Homosexuality is comparable. Gay men are still men. Lesbians are still women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 06:49 PM
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Idk what you’re talking about. I never mentioned “disposability.” Pls take your personal baggage elsewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 06:49 PM
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Think you mean neuroticism but no it’s not lol 80% of women have been sexually harassed in public, 40% have been inappropriately touched, and around 30% have been stalked or experienced indecent exposure
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 06:48 PM
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Women are not at the top of the food chain in terms of strength and aggression. Males are much more violent, much more aggressive, and much stronger than we are, generally speaking. Being aware of one’s surroundings and being vigilant/considering every male stranger a potential threat is practical, evolutionarily ingrained behavior for women. It would be silly for women to believe that every stranger is harmless and has good intentions when we know, often from personal experiences, that this is …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 06:21 PM
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Nope, it’s because you are male. You don’t have the same self preservation instincts women do. Strangers yelling and pawing at you is not desirable. I feel lonely often. I don’t want strange men leering at me, speaking to me, or groping me in public.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 06:10 PM
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That is because you’re male.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 05:32 PM
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Ok lol keep spitefully downvoting my replies and not looking at yourself, a man, who keeps trying to tell a woman what feminism is
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 04:03 AM
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Why’s that?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 03:57 AM
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Yep, you can support those women and wish them well by voting properly and arguing with misogynistic men, not by arguing with women about whether or not you should be included in their movement. You are trying desperately to center yourself and how good of a person you are in this conversation and at the same time, insisting your (a man’s) definition of feminism is the right one, and that your (a man’s) view of what feminists should be doing is the right one. I don’t think your intentions are en…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 03:51 AM
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Support does not necessitate your inclusion. What is the function of men being included in feminism? What purpose does that serve?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 03:31 AM
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Support does not necessitate your inclusion. What is the function of men being included in feminism? What purpose does that serve?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 03:31 AM
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What exactly have I said that you feel is so off the mark? You can’t expect civility when you come in guns blazing trying to redefine feminism as a man. Can you understand why that might piss some women off?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 03:02 AM
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Nope, you’re just not really used to talking with dykes who won’t concede to your logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 02:49 AM
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Oh wow! A man agreeing that feminism should benefit men! Such a surprise! Please lol bye The main reasons men want to be included in feminism are To control it (as you’ve attempted to do throughout this entire thread) To infiltrate it and convince women that repackaged misogyny is empowering and desirable for women To get a whiff of libfem puss No other reason. Allies shut up and let the actual oppressed class being affected steer the ship. You’re not an ally.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 02:44 AM
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Egalitarianism is egalitarianism. Not feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 02:24 AM
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Feminism benefiting men is literally unrelated to the movement. I don’t consider men in any of my politics because they aren’t my priority and never shall be. Men being “part” of feminism creates the problem I’m experiencing with you now, which is men genuinely and honestly believing that their opinions wrt feminism matter and should be considered. You are not the arbiter of what feminism is and what it should do. Women are. Not you. It’s okay when something exists that is not about you, and you…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 02:23 AM
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What would happen if everyone thought the way I do?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 02:16 AM
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Because it’s not about you. It’s about women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 02:15 AM
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No, I said gay men could align themselves more closely with feminism, not that gay men can be feminists. I explained to you right afterward the reasons they cannot truly understand what women experience and why feminism is not really about or for them. The tangential benefits gay men experience are greater than the ones straight men at the bottom of the totem pole do. Most men benefit greatly from patriarchy being in place. Quote where I said “oh yeah oopsie! Forgot about gay men!” I haven’t mad…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 02:14 AM
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Gawd what a sad person you must be
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 02:11 AM
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Get therapy
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 02:10 AM
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I said: feminism benefits women and is for women’s liberation You interpreted: feminism doesn’t benefit men These things are not the same man. If a man benefits tangentially from feminist efforts, great for him. That is not the purpose of feminism’s existence and it is not the focus of its activism. I’m not understanding why you think it should be, and I’ve asked you many times to explain it. You can not.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 02:09 AM
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Go back to the blatantly blackpill subs buddy
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 02:05 AM
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Quote me forgetting gay men. Can’t argue something that didn’t happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 02:04 AM
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Look man, feminism isn’t about or for gay men either, but it would benefit them more directly in more ways because they typically aren’t the ones calling the shots. Society isn’t set up that way. They also do not kill and rape women so they’re safer people to have around. No man can be a feminist because feminism is about women’s liberation. Not really sure what isn’t computing. Again, please try to answer why men need to be included in something to support it, and why men need to be included in…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 02:03 AM
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Having a job is a normal part of being an adult. Not having one makes it evident that you’re selfish and don’t care about your family’s welfare. Becoming physically incapacitated is usually not a foreseen circumstance. That said, men do leave their sick wives often. It’s been documented many times over. You’re just saying the quiet part out loud. Shock value is nil. Yawn.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 01:59 AM
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You are, man. You keep harping on the “waah I’m being excluded from feminism as a straight man” and it’s just not doing anything for me. There’s no substantive argument here. You can’t explain why men should be included in feminism because it has nothing to do with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 01:53 AM
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Lmfao go be performative somewhere else, maybe an onlyfans girl will give you a whiff of her puss Lesbians were the ones supporting gay men during the aids crisis, not straight men. That’s why the L is the first letter in the acronym.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 01:52 AM
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They haven’t been shoved into anything. Men benefit from patriarchy staying intact. Men at the bottom of the food chain might not benefit as MUCH, but it isn’t because they’re men, it’s for other reasons, and people who don’t fit in have always been ostracized for not fitting in.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 01:50 AM
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Dude, you were referencing yourself and other straight men. Do not play with me. You mentioned gay men as a gotcha. I am gay. Do not try it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 01:48 AM
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That is not what I said wow I said I don’t feel included by people of color because it’s their movement. It’s about them. I do not need to be included and given cookies for my support. I do it without expectation of validation or acknowledgment. Try that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 01:48 AM
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I never said I forgot about gay men lol I just know that wasn’t who you were referencing in your initial comment I still don’t know why you feel like you need to be included in something that isn’t about you
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 01:12 AM
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You said: feminism is not only for women What else is the implication of that lol You should not need to feel included by feminism to support it. I don’t feel included by antiracist efforts, and why would I? I am white. I still support their cause.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 01:07 AM
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I don’t hate men for being men, and it’s super shortsighted and obtuse of you to pretend like you don’t understand the reasons feminists are wary of men as a group If you want to be an ally, listening to women instead of arguing when you feel insulted would be a good place to start. Performative allyship for a gold star really means nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 01:06 AM
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Don’t care lol Only one of us says the women’s liberation movement is for men
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 01:00 AM
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is she? Cuz she definitely says men can’t be feminists and that feminism is for women, not men
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 12:58 AM
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No, actually, I’m not. Don’t project your intentions onto me. Observing aesthetic and objective beauty for the purpose of improving one’s looks is really nowhere near objectification. All those women are people. It’s not a pornsick truerateme sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 12:56 AM
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the ppl who could maybe closely align themselves with feminism are gay men yea because they’re also oppressed by the same people we are, but they still get a ton of benefits we don’t for example, gay men are much more celebrated in industries that women created and dominate numbers-wise—a mediocre gay man will climb up a lot faster than an excellent lesbian will in fashion, performance, cosmetics, mental health, so on and so forth i don’t care if you’re a leftist really lol there are plenty of l…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 12:54 AM
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u: “individual men need to be called out” also u: “individual men didn’t ever contribute to systems of oppression, they appeared out of thin air!!” which is it
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 12:50 AM
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Bud, we discuss the looks of female celebs because they’re much more attractive than we will ever be and provide pointers for how to improve our looks. It’s a women only sub. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 12:49 AM
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Woof unironically using “cisplaining” Might be good to get off the internet for a few days and get outside, this level of obsession over nonissues like JK Rowling cannot be good for your mental health
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 12:44 AM
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Sorry, should clarify—that’s mostly in response to the phony “mens rights activism” round here. Their main goals are to dismantle feminism’s progress and return to the status quo. Guaranteed if you enter any MRA forum the majority of the posts will be centered around dating and not being able to get sex. A handful of other posts might be about male suicide rates being higher than women’s, but that’s typically only mentioned when a woman talks about poor mental health. It’s not a productive movem…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 12:43 AM
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Nah, won’t work, sorry. I only discuss feminist theory in detail with educated feminists. If you think feminism is for men, you cannot count yourself part of that group. Make your own movement and leave the desire to control and objectify women out of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 12:37 AM
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I can understand why men have a problem with feminism. Not caring that they have a problem with it is a separate issue. I’m not really sure why I should prioritize men’s desire to oppress women over women’s desire to be liberated. I’m sure you’ll turn it around and say it’s the same for the opposite, but it really isn’t, because men are not being slighted by women gaining more agency. An inconvenience or losing a certain privilege that was immoral and never actually earned is not the same thing …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 12:35 AM
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this isn’t even related to your original post so I’m confused how we even got here but none of the things you’re describing are happening because men were socially conditioned to be misogynistic and horrible to women/people they consider beneath them They just are. It’s biology. It’s evolution. All of those things are emboldened by society’s construction. They inform each other. Laws are the safeguards that protect women and LGBT people. If you want to change how trans people are treated, look a…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 12:27 AM
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Feminism is for women. If men benefit tangentially from it, fine. You need to look up and understand the different feminist theories before we can discuss this(which can take years). Only liberal feminism, which is the repackaged misogyny that’s mainstream rn, tries to say that feminism is for men. All the feminist activists of the past who actually accomplished things and changed the world did not care about what men thought of their activism.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 12:23 AM
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Rich You can stop there! Nothing else needed. JK Rowling isn’t inciting anybody to punch you. They already wanted to punch you if they felt bold enough to do that. Please get real.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 12:03 AM
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Man lol knock it off. I’m a lesbian. Tons of my close friends are and have been trans guys. I’m not saying that oppressive women don’t exist, I’m saying that women are unlikely to systemically oppress you and make it impossible for you to access medical care and other things of that nature. It’s misplaced resentment for individuals on your part that you’re projecting onto women as a population. Most women are left leaning and pro-LGBT—much more than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 11:50 PM
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Uh huh. Women did that? Surely not feminist women. If so, pretty small subset. There are definitely asshole women who exist, but I wouldn’t jump to all cis women being culprits. Most of them just don’t understand what it’s like to be LGBT or gnc and need to be educated.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 11:45 PM
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How have they been uncool to you, though? If people are shitty to you because of your trans status, it really has nothing to do with sexism and like everything to do with that
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 11:01 PM
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Women still aren’t liberated. Sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 10:54 PM
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Traditional gender norms such as what? Too vague.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 10:45 PM
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What do you think “casual bigotry that affects you” is? I’m sure we have different ideas of what constitutes bigotry.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 10:45 PM
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I have never said feminism is for men. Anyone who says that is full of people-pleasing shit. Feminism is meant to combat the oppressive systems men have created by introducing better laws and creating support systems for women. Women are the ones being primarily affected. If it helps men in a tangential way, fine; but that’s not the focus and it’s pretty hilarious that men believe it should be. What sort of things are you talking about, then? 2-3 examples would be great.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 10:26 PM
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No, wrong. Men vote those people into office and continue perpetuating these systems because the systems benefit them. One person can’t do everything. They have to have support.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 10:24 PM
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Men created oppressive systems, yes. There is zero evidence otherwise. It shows up in their sociopolitical beliefs, how they vote, and their actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 10:04 PM
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I mean, seems like that’s a you problem? Feminism is by and for women. It’s kinda in the name. It certainly didn’t present women with more issues, and I’m certain it didn’t present men with more “issues” apart from having to check their entitlement. To your other point, depends what you’re advocating for. If you’re advocating for restricting medical care for women, making excuses for violent men, and advocating for treating other people like objects, yep, that’ll upset women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 10:03 PM
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Ehhh. Nah. It’s not really our responsibility to fix this or to feel sorry for the people who created these systems and continue to oppress us with them. Men can do what feminists did and get off their asses and work for change.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 09:09 PM
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Lmao
/r/AllPillDebate03/06/23 05:39 PM
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Wasn’t necessarily just talking about colleges and universities. We’re talking about raising families in this thread
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 04:56 AM
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Percentiles don’t necessarily say anything about COL, but yes, Vegas is significantly cheaper than most of the other places I mentioned.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 12:38 AM
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You really need to calm down and read the words I’m actually writing instead of inserting your own beliefs and reading into what I’m saying I said: I can understand what objective physical attractiveness looks like without being sexually attracted to someone The sexual attraction happens when physical attraction and other traits I like coincide in one person. This is a common experience for women. Men do not care about anything but looks, especially initially and when they are young. It’s a much…
/r/AllPillDebate02/06/23 10:44 PM
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No, I did not say that. I said it was uncommon for me to be sexually attracted to another person, not that I didn’t think anybody but those 5 people are physically attractive. Observing someone’s objective attractiveness does not actually correlate with arousal. That is a male thing. Nothing in that study discounts what I’ve said.
/r/AllPillDebate02/06/23 10:06 PM
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I didn’t say it wasn’t based on physical traits. I said other things typically informed the attraction in addition to physical traits. This is what women keep trying to tell you people. Both things matter. Men are much less discerning than women. Our attraction is much more complex. That does not actually mean that all or even most women insist upon having a 10/10 partner. That’s projection.
/r/AllPillDebate02/06/23 09:59 PM
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Abortion has been illegal for a whole year in Texas, bud. That is a hostile place to live. Any coastal state would mostly be fine, except for Florida / Georgia and etc. There are other states in the middle of the country that would be reasonably good to live in, Nevada, Utah, Colorado, Illinois, etc. but no, I’m not interested in living in a state that thinks I shouldn’t have medical agency where my own body is concerned.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 09:55 PM
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No, it’s uncommon for me to be attracted to someone based on their physical appearance alone. Many women share that experience. I disagree that not being rabidly horny for random strangers necessitates an invention of a phony sexuality.
/r/AllPillDebate02/06/23 09:53 PM
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So can I, it’s just uncommon. I’m disinterested in pretending to be attracted to people I’m not attracted to. I’m not a man, so I don’t want to fuck everything that moves. Many women share my experiences.
/r/AllPillDebate02/06/23 09:42 PM
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Are the laws in Texas friendly to women, poor people, and gay people? Cmon now.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 09:35 PM
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Dude lol demisexuality is not even a sexuality. It’s not real. It was a term that was invented some years ago to distinguish normal people from sex positive high n count weirdos.
/r/AllPillDebate02/06/23 09:33 PM
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It means anywhere that has a decent education system, things to do, career opportunities, no food deserts, decent politics that aren’t oppressive
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 09:32 PM
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My libido is very high, and I’m not demisexual. None of them were what I would call unattractive, but I’m not a 10/10 so neither were they. Mostly normal looking people.
/r/AllPillDebate02/06/23 09:04 PM
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I’m not attracted to men, buddy. You’re barking up the wrong tree. I’ve been truly sexually attracted to maybe about 5 people in my life and usually that was informed by other qualities of theirs.
/r/AllPillDebate02/06/23 08:59 PM
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Attractive women have high standards, yes. I do not believe that every woman wants a multimillionaire Chad with an 8 inch dick. Most of the people I see on the street are very normal looking couples. Super attractive people are rare.
/r/AllPillDebate02/06/23 08:55 PM
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They are barely real sorry. There are some things women care about, but men are not nearly as intensely scrutinized as women in regular life by BOTH men AND other women. Completely different ballpark. I’m disinterested in speaking any further about it.
/r/AllPillDebate02/06/23 08:41 PM
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The median is poverty. $80k is not enough to support a family anywhere worth living.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 08:40 PM
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Yep. It is all about proximity. It is true that educated ppl tend to marry each other, but I’m guessing that is also… about proximity.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 08:39 PM
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He needs a haircut and better clothing. He has excellent bone structure and nice features. “Male beauty standards” lol
/r/AllPillDebate02/06/23 08:26 PM
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Lol “okay?” As though you don’t realize the impact of being able to provide bio kids and a normal life Think that ends our conversation ETA also no routinely, scrubs who are ugly, directionless, and bring nothing to the relationship are permitted to be abusive and horrible within their relationships, or even just deadbeats, and maintain a gf
/r/AllPillDebate01/06/23 12:41 AM
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They’re boring and simple
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 08:22 PM
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Pretty much, yes.
/r/AllPillDebate31/05/23 06:41 PM
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No, that’s not what I said. I said women don’t want to live in poverty on their husband’s income, so they work (more often). Everyone cares if people are broke. It’s not attractive or practical in today’s society.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 03:57 PM
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No, men can’t support a family without another income. They resent being single earners because they can’t afford it. I’m not really sure what isn’t clicking. There are men here who refuse to pay for DATES, let alone things like mortgages and car payments.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 03:49 PM
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Most men cannot support a family without another person’s income. Yes, a woman will have an issue with living in poverty. That’s not a character flaw, it’s being practical.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 03:46 PM
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No, you’re the one who isn’t understanding: Men want stay at home wives who do nothing but dote on them, give them sex, clean the house, and have babies The problem is: the median income in the US for men is less than $40k. Ain’t gonna happen. Wives need to work to support the family, men become resentful because they feel emasculated, you get the picture.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 03:36 PM
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They care. It’s a strange paradox of resenting women for not being 50s housewives and at the same time, not having the income to finance that lifestyle.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 03:20 PM
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Women do hold other women to higher standards. Men can fuck up colossally and in every way and still keep a girlfriend. Society roots for men and women to be together. Not only are lesbians expected to pull their own weight in a relationship (most of us won’t date women without jobs or career aspirations) and do everything else men would be expected to do, good sex is expected, emotional support is expected, and apologies for bad behavior are expected. Trust me, all of these things are routinely…
/r/AllPillDebate31/05/23 03:17 PM
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“No one would care if she’s broke” There was a thread in here the other day full of men complaining that welfare and government benefits exist and are supporting mothers with children 💀
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 03:08 PM
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Talent and good listening skills. The harsh reality is that some men, no matter how hard they try, will not and cannot be good in bed. Lesbian couples have their problems! Luckily where DV is concerned, 99% of the time (+-, I can find the statistic if you don’t believe me), men are the ones beating people severely and within inches of their lives Dead bedrooms have nothing to do with lesbians’ sexual performance and everything to do with how lesbians date lol which I guarantee you, you know noth…
/r/AllPillDebate31/05/23 03:01 PM
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Lol nope, wrong on all counts Every woman is different and responds differently to stimulation. The clitoris is a much more sensitive organ than the penis. Lesbians actually care about making their partners orgasm (would know, am a lesbian). Women hold their female partners to even higher standards than male partners. Almost all of my friends stay in relationships with men who aren’t making them cum even 50% of the time, and that’s not even addressing any other category that men consistently fal…
/r/AllPillDebate31/05/23 02:51 PM
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Ctfu one eyed deaf paraplegics People IN THIS SUB have complained that women are unwilling to date “disfigured men” and in the same breath have said “but I deserve a normal gf, I shouldn’t just be limited to other disfigured people” Not kidding
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 02:46 PM
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No it’s not lol men are terrible at following directions in bed Why is the orgasm gap much less significant with lesbian couples
/r/AllPillDebate31/05/23 02:44 PM
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Look up the orgasm gap Case closed
/r/AllPillDebate31/05/23 01:36 PM
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And this is immediately where they lose me. The default assumption that our looks standards aren't already broad or diverse. Or the assumption that we can force ourselves to be attracted to people if we do have a type. All of that
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 04:28 AM
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Yep.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 04:27 AM
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Because men don’t like hearing that most of them are terrible in bed
/r/AllPillDebate31/05/23 12:31 AM
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https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6318556/#:~:text=For%20many%20years%2C%20researchers%20have,been%20widely%20accepted%20%5B1%5D. https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0956797615586979 https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/behavioral-and-brain-sciences/article/abs/does-sexual-selection-explain-human-sex-differences-in-aggression/8C918A2FDAA8C234BFB192F282BF3F27 https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1359178918301666 Knock yourself out
/r/AllPillDebate30/05/23 10:21 PM
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Because of evolution lol if you’re familiar at all with evolutionary biology it’s pretty self explanatory I don’t feel like I should have to link studies to something as basic as this
/r/AllPillDebate30/05/23 09:39 PM
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If they’re having repeated bad experiences, don’t you think it might be a them problem? Have they considered there’s a reason they’re continuously being rejected? It has nothing to do with bad experiences or “brutal” rejections. It has to do with entitlement. Men who feel entitled to women’s attention and bodies are always going to get angry when they’re rejected, because they believe they deserve unadulterated access to another person. People are not objects. That said, there’s a lid for every …
/r/AllPillDebate30/05/23 06:44 PM
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I can: Men openly admit to wanting to rape women. Laws are safeguards. Men have no problem murdering people with abandon. Laws are safeguards. Men have no problem controlling and monopolizing women like they are objects. Laws are safeguards. Before you freak out, no, not ALL MEN, but a lot of them. Men’s biology lends itself to this. It takes consistently choosing not to be this way to go against the grain, and I think as a society we’ve reasonably reached that point.
/r/AllPillDebate30/05/23 04:20 PM
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Easily answered: birth control and legal abortion
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 05:50 AM
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people absolutely do wake up misogynistic and history is plenty proof of that society is only moderately protected from the plot of the purge becoming a reality because of modern laws and protections that require it—some of which are already scaling back as we speak it’s not my job to tell you why you hate women, it’s your job to figure it out and fix it—because the reasons i hear: “they won’t go out with me, waaah they won’t have sex with me” they’re just simply not making the cut underneath th…
/r/AllPillDebate30/05/23 05:35 AM
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💀
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 04:39 AM
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Wow it’s like you didn’t read my comment at all Go crunch some numbers and figure out how many bills have been introduced and how many laws have been passed by men in the last 75 years
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 04:21 AM
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This post is so stupid lol the fertility rate is going down because powerful men have ruined the economy and fucked us all over so badly that a lot of “normal people” can’t AFFORD kids anymore Interesting that you all moan about how women control the dating scene and then try to say it’s impossible for average women to get a husband and kids
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 04:15 AM
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tbh this sub is overrun with incels who are too far gone to ever be able to go on a date without displaying extreme degrees of entitlement and resentment that’s why all these men are a lost cause, it’s not because they’re repulsive and ugly or because they’re autistic lol it’s literally just that they hate women and still weirdly feel entitled to their attention and their bodies in spite of it all of em need therapy
/r/AllPillDebate30/05/23 04:07 AM
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Oh boy Looks do not matter as much to women as they do to men so this gets convoluted bc you get a bunch of men projecting They matter, but they are not the ONLY piece that matters. Attraction is significantly more complex for women. Your personality definitely matters and it can absolutely be a deciding factor. Most men on this sub underestimate how bad their social skills are and overestimate how good looking they are. Do what you want with that info. Also, of course women can enjoy sex 😭 ther…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 03:50 AM
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wow you’re literally a psycho
/r/AllPillDebate29/05/23 03:34 AM
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Lol you are so crazy, I’m a lesbian and I’ve never dated men nor behaved poorly around them Take your personal baggage elsewhere and stop leaking all over random strangers
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 12:18 AM
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Lol nah, my reading comprehension isn’t atrocious just because you can’t keep your points straight Initially you bashed nice guys and said women are constantly turning them down and turning them into orbiters, now you’re saying they’re a small niche of people who don’t have a large affect on things Before you said that conventionally attractive men are often toxic and women overlook that—I pointed out that a LOT of men are toxic and ugly and women still end up with them because people make excus…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 07:48 PM
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I actually never said the majority of the world’s atrocities were all committed by nice guys. I said there is no proof that it’s only charming, toxic, attractive men who are committing these acts as you keep insinuating. I’m actually saying there is barely a difference between nice guys and all the rest of the entitled, violent men in the world except for some window dressing. “Nice guy” is an online term for a group of men who have always existed. Move away from the terminology and the rigid bo…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 06:54 PM
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Dude lol “nice” and ugly guys can be just as abusive as attractive men with initially charming personalities. There’s no reason to believe they can’t be. Marilyn Manson and Hitler and all those other people are hideously ugly and nowhere near the charming, conventionally attractive men you keep trying to say get all the women. There’s no pattern there and you can’t provide proof because there isn’t any. This is a weird revenge fantasy for you to feel vindicated. All types of men are abusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 05:58 PM
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Misandry’s not real so that’s probably ur first problem interacting with women 😩 Boogeymen aren’t created by women, men do all that by themselves. I cannot believe my eyes, every single time I debate with someone here they always circle back to this draconian nonsense about believing they’re entitled to a relationship or sex just because they’re “better” than other men women find themselves attracted to. If men get mad at women for not being attracted to them, they have significantly larger issu…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 01:32 PM
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Not all autistic men are like that. Most of the ones here are. It’s relevant to the sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 01:26 PM
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Didn’t say any of that, but you continue inventing your fantasy narrative
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 01:25 PM
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Not the height business again Most ppl aren’t attracted to tall women either and I’ve made my peace
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 04:51 AM
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None of my friends are curvy IG baddies, and I’m in no danger of overrating men, considering I’m not attracted to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 04:47 AM
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Nah man, I’m telling you, most of the women I’m friends with are easily 7/10s and up and their boyfriends all look like Just Some Guy. It happens all of the time. Women are not wired the same way men are, a lot of things influence our attraction to a person and not all of them are physical.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 04:43 AM
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They feel like their efforts are wasted because they are entitled. I know it’s usually a lazy argument that’s brought up here and elsewhere, but they really do act like they’re owed something just for being nice. I agree that no one should lie about attraction. I don’t particularly think women should keep friends who are male and attracted to them once that information has been revealed, but I’m sure I’m in the minority there. It never seems to go well and they sometimes do interpret that as bei…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 04:16 AM
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Noticing and choosing to ignore can both happen, though, and I think that’s where we disagree. There are plenty of objectively ugly men that women find very hot. It’s not all about conventionality.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 04:12 AM
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and may he burn in hell
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 03:54 AM
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issue ? i don’t have issues getting laid, i think you might be confusing me for someone else can you explain to me what you mean senpai 🥺
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 03:50 AM
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The difference is that the toxic men usually have some positive qualities sprinkled in that draw women in—humor, charisma, being good in bed, being stylish, being a more masculine/dominant personality, etc. I’m not saying it’s right, I’m just saying. I do agree to an extent that some women get kinda Stockholm syndrome with guys they think are super hot and have chemistry with, but that’s just the way the cookie crumbles. People like who they like and make excuses for them. There’s not really a f…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 03:48 AM
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don’t be so mean to yourself! as long as you go get therapy you’ll find someone someday 🤍
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 03:37 AM
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They do those nice things initially, yes. Usually it does not go well if they are told no. Fine line between men who expect to be rewarded for being a decent human being and an incel. Both of these types of men are entitled. Being attractive and extroverted helps, but you don’t have to be those things to get women to respect you. Plenty of introverted men are rolling in pussy. Introversion =/= complete lack of social skills
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 03:33 AM
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Aww! Thinking a woman should be your mommy and your therapist and your handler (since you can’t do social interaction by yourself 🥺) is probably several levels of loser beyond that !
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 03:26 AM
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It’s easier to fool people when you’re charismatic and fun to be around. Not so much when you’re ragey, entitled, spergy and resentful.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 03:25 AM
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Raping someone isn’t an action?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 03:23 AM
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💀 calm down lmao I care very much for the people I date, I just don’t expect them to fix MY problems and to be the sole source of my happiness and contentment, let alone to teach me basic social skills
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 06:33 PM
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What you are describing is codependence, not caring. People should stop requiring women they’re interested in dating to be their girlfriends, mothers, and therapists. Maintenance of your own emotional state is your responsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 05:56 PM
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No, you’re not understanding. It’s an unreasonable expectation for anyone to have.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 03:20 PM
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those things aren’t mutually exclusive! yikes
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 03:18 PM
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This is an unreasonable expectation to have of other people. No one can fix or save you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 06:33 AM
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Ok, fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 05:41 AM
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I do not see history as simply the oppression of women by men In most circumstances, especially at the bottom of the food chain/caste system, that’s all it is. The richer people are, the less it tends to matter. That holds now, too. I get what you’re saying, but I disagree. Statistics are a good way to disprove that. Laws and evolving environments change nothing, as I said, they only curtail. If these protections were to be removed (such as abortion rights in certain states, which is causing a p…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 05:22 AM
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The “gender roles system” was created over millennia by biology and BOTH men and women informed it. Laws and civilized conduct are modern society’s way of curtailing the violent and oppressive parts of male nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 04:46 AM
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Men and women created one another and shaped gender roles. It’s not all women’s fault that these social norms and expectations exist. Feminism isn’t incompatible with desiring a traditional feminine role within a relationship, because theoretically, both parties are consenting to the dynamic that is happening. Not really seeing how it’s a “negative” gender role if most men are enjoying it
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 04:09 AM
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Have you considered asking yourself why you resent paying for things for women you theoretically like and are trying to impress?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 03:26 AM
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No, it’s just courtesy. Not everything has to be a transaction. Some people enjoy treating others and being generous. Women don’t like stinginess.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 02:49 AM
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yyyyyyep
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 02:08 AM
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Asking for “equal pay” when you undoubtedly asked a woman on a date is bad form, especially when in the initial dating stages. If I do the asking out, I pay. In a committed relationship going Dutch is much less of a social faux pas, but when dating? Good luck lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 02:06 AM
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Men who want to be the prize and have everything paid for are feminine and in denial about it Can’t expect to be treated like a masculine man when you aren’t one. Masculine men don’t resent paying for women, complimenting her looks, being a protector/provider, etc. and that’s why “average” men who aren’t jealous and bitter end up in relationships. guaranteed these guys’ lack of success is due to their attitudes, their personalities, or a combination of both, and you’re absolutely right that wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 02:04 AM
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Not necessarily. A lot of them will not, though. Just about finding someone who’s a good match and willing to fill a more masculine role in your relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 11:58 PM
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Lol, taking care of your child wouldn’t benefit you? Interesting. “Women completely control reproduction” interesting. So I could choose to have a baby on my own without a man ejaculating inside of me? I could get pregnant tomorrow if I wanted without having sex with a man or putting a man’s sperm inside of me? I don’t have a husband and pay for everything myself. Most people who live in metro areas in this country cannot survive with only a single income, which leads into the married filing joi…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 11:47 PM
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It benefits men, too 😉 if mom isn’t in the picture, dad pays child support or daycare fees/nanny fees.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 08:51 PM
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No it hasn’t, as explained in my comments. Context is important. The biggest gap in taxpaying is during women’s child rearing years. Working around the clock would be close to $200k salary per year. That is free labor, considering those kids belong to the men paying taxes, too, not just the women. Also, like I said, that study only covers NZ. Not comprehensive.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 08:35 PM
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Then what is the argument? Men orgasm every time with casual sex, so it makes a lot of sense that they’d enjoy it and seek it out. As I just explained to you, the same is not true for women, plus there are increased risks in many areas.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 02:56 PM
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It’s not strange, it’s just feminine.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 05:49 AM
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That is not a source, it’s an infographic that was made by an MRA. The link is broken and unavailable. It also only addresses New Zealand so that’s not exactly comprehensive. Look up the pink tax. Would also be helpful if you understood how married filing jointly households affect women, who are usually the secondary earners. Not to mention that there’s a pay gap and that a lot of men in married couples don’t want their wives to work. We pay taxes to send you boys off to war too, and that’s 75% …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 03:36 AM
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Source
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 03:15 AM
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I agree. Blackpill men want to be doted on and adored the way masculine men dote on and adore women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 03:11 AM
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Oh please. Women pay taxes to support all the men in jail for violent crimes, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 03:08 AM
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Guaranteed they don’t enjoy it. It’s tough for men to make their monogamous partners orgasm, let alone casual or one time partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 01:18 AM
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Yeah, doesn’t happen, tho. Statistics don’t support it. It’s about 2% of reports, maybe less. There are about 800k sex offenders registered in the US and over 72m sexual assault survivors. The numbers aren’t numbering in your argument’s favor. It is extremely uncommon.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 01:04 AM
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I suspect that if you were a woman you wouldn’t be saying unsubstantiated things like “men get defamed for rejecting women” lol that’s a severely inflated claim by a lot of men (ie all women accuse men falsely of rape and try to ruin their lives) that circulates a bunch in this sub and other pill subs Feel free to correct me tho
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 11:56 PM
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Ok, I’ll modify: you have not experienced men as a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 10:23 PM
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Nah people who don’t have feelings for animals are low in empathy in general
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 08:44 PM
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No LOL
/r/AllPillDebate25/05/23 03:55 PM
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It is true, man. Most people in relationships are normal people with other normal people. Reality contradicts your claims. And yes, if a man starts off with something boring, weird, creepy, etc. then she will probably not respond to that message. What a crime.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 03:33 PM
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There is not a choice in who you’re attracted to. That’s probably why you’re struggling so hard with understanding women’s attraction to begin with. Nobody can choose to be attracted to you if they aren’t.
/r/AllPillDebate25/05/23 03:32 PM
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No one says they don’t pursue attractive men. Women say that they also entertain regular guys and aren’t believed. The biggest reason for the “swiping difference” is that men and women do it differently to start with: every man I’ve noticed swipes on ALL women to see who matches with him, THEN filters, THEN sends messages to the most attractive women. Women do not swipe right on people they wouldn’t be interested in to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 03:00 PM
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Yep
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 02:57 PM
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Nope. Are women who become sexually aroused during a sexual assault attracted to those men, too? What your body is doing is very separate from subjective attraction. That study doesn’t mean what you think it means. You’re trying too hard to make something true that isn’t.
/r/AllPillDebate25/05/23 02:57 PM
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He has to INITIALLY do more, yes, and I don’t see why that’s cause for complaint, either. It’s for a short period. After a relationship begins, the woman in the relationship is the social glue. Nobody is expecting men to hold relationships together socially.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 02:55 PM
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That’s because you don’t experience men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 02:54 PM
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No one says they don’t pursue attractive men. Women say that they also entertain regular guys and aren’t believed. The biggest reason for the “swiping difference” is that men and women do it differently to start with: every man I’ve noticed swipes on ALL women to see who matches with him, THEN filters, THEN sends messages to the most attractive women. Women do not swipe right on people they wouldn’t be interested in to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 02:53 PM
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A 6 or a 7 can easily be hot. You don’t really get into visibly unattractive territory until sub-4.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 03:45 AM
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How much is a lot of money? Good looking in one of the most populous cities in the world doesn’t mean much.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 03:18 AM
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Sappho was bisexual, not a lesbian. Do women who get aroused while someone is sexually assaulting them like it and experience sexual attraction in that moment, too? That study also does not account for self-identification as I’ve explained multiple times now. Anyone can identify as anything, that doesn’t make them one. I never said it was “why” I don’t date men, you just inserted a bunch of random bullshit about body counts in trying to be clever when it has nothing to do with me. I corrected yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 02:58 AM
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No, sorry. Women have casual sex to 1. experience validation, not pleasure, and 2. to cope with previous traumatic wounds that have not been addressed. It’s not about the sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 02:46 AM
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You just really don’t know enough to have this conversation and I will outpace you. Most women who state they are lesbians aren’t lesbians. I have met two other gold star lesbians in my entire life and I’ve been out a while now. I would bet you that an extremely small sample size of actual lesbians was used in that study. There have been many men interested in me. I turned them down. I’m not really sure why you’re having an issue computing that a woman can just not be attracted to men. Does this…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 02:43 AM
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Ask “all” those other “lesbians” if they’ve ever slept with a man. If yes, they’re not lesbians.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 02:34 AM
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I am much prettier than most lesbians. It’s not an issue of that. I’m not attracted to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 02:32 AM
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Who said she ended the relationship? She still hits me up on a regular basis. You’re making yourself look stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 02:29 AM
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Lmfao. I don’t date men 😭😂 I slept with a person I was in a committed relationship with.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 02:20 AM
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No it doesn’t. Why do you keep ignoring this part? Again, if it’s so much a choice, go and sleep with other men. In what way is it hurting you that lesbians are existing and going about their business? Do you harbor the same entitlement and resentment toward gay men?
/r/AllPillDebate25/05/23 02:19 AM
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Because their emotions are logical, of course!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 02:17 AM
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Agreed. I would rather be single than waste time with anyone who isn’t both.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 02:16 AM
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Because people are immature. Having feelings for someone and being attracted to them doesn’t mean they will be a good match. That is the baseline for continuing to go on dates and getting to know each other, not for starting a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 02:15 AM
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No, I’m really not. You are responding very emotionally to all of this user’s comments. Ok so what, you think that makes up for a 4% swipe right rate?? Of course not! are you just saying that to make excuses for women who today have incredibly unreasonable expectations and think they deserve everything under the sun These are super entitled, resentful comments. Why do you deserve sex or a relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 02:12 AM
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You clearly believe this is a problem, so what is the solution to the problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 02:09 AM
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Lol. I’ve only slept with one person. Please take your personal baggage elsewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 02:09 AM
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I don’t buy it. Men become deeply offended when a woman is not attracted to them and can’t really cope with it. Women are used to being denigrated and criticized with regard to looks. You don’t hear about women being rejected as much because 1. Women can read the room better and don’t bulldoze their way in where they aren’t wanted, and 2. They don’t incessantly complain about it afterward.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 02:05 AM
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Sexual fluidity doesn’t mean that it’s chosen. Like at all. It means that women have varying response patterns (usually bisexual ones) when presented with stimuli, but that doesn’t mean they will choose to act on any of those patterns regardless of sexuality. Not really sure why you interpreted “fluidity” as “conscious choice to spite men.” Again, if it’s so much a choice, go and sleep with other men. Lesbian women were never an option to you, so you’re not “losing” out on anything. In bisexual …
/r/AllPillDebate25/05/23 02:03 AM
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I think it’s pretty unreasonable to openly resent and hate women and still expect sex, don’t you?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 01:08 AM
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Just give up with this one. When they get this far into incel-dom they are incapable of reflecting and being self aware. They are completely unaware that women can sense this resentment and rage. It always astounds me how badly this type of man wants to sleep with women while openly hating them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 01:05 AM
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There are many celebrities who are average looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 01:02 AM
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Women don’t want casual sex lol they don’t benefit from it. Casual sex is only beneficial to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 12:59 AM
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There are women who are 6s and 7s in Hollywood. Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 12:58 AM
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Experience failing with women? Or experience actually dating women?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 12:56 AM
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So do you want a woman to swipe right on you if she isn’t attracted to you? Or what?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 12:55 AM
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Woof lol yep
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 12:54 AM
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No it’s not. Source please. If it’s a choice, go fuck other men.
/r/AllPillDebate24/05/23 10:17 PM
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Why are you assuming that women are feminists because of things they want changed within romantic relationships? “So many women” are not bisexual or lesbian now, and 90% of bisexuals end up with men as it is. That has actually changed in men’s favor from previous years where it was a smidge more balanced. Sexuality is not a choice. Very astounding that you think being angry at someone for being gay is a legitimate viewpoint to have.
/r/AllPillDebate24/05/23 10:05 PM
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“No choice” Lmao laughable
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 03:21 PM
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There are a lot of things that can’t be read or interpreted online too, and I think that hurts ND/very unsuccessful people in dating. Very important to develop a social network with similarly minded people and meet other people who like to do the same things. It’s really an advantage to get in front of as many people as you can to give yourself a fair shot and also to practice these social skills. There is a need present in society for greater awareness of neurodivergence and not to be an asshol…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 06:56 AM
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Why are men the default for regular people? Women are regular people too, that doesn’t change just because you can’t understand how they communicate and refuse to put in the effort. Dating used to be a whole process, “games” included, and to my knowledge those men never complained things were taking too long or that communication wasn’t clear enough. If you mean that you have an issue with a woman wanting to be treated like a human being before she puts out when you say “games,” then yeah, you’l…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 06:45 AM
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It doesn’t really matter that more young men are single because more young women are single, too. Nobody is targeting you just for being a man. Men today are worse in some ways and better in others. Men don’t have to fake their personalities (and btw women can tell when you do this), I’m not really sure where you’re getting this from. If you mean that they need to have friends and a social life, yes, they do. Introversion and being antisocial are two different things. Antisocial behavior freaks …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 03:06 AM
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You cannot talk to women the way you talk to other men and expect results. Women being different than men is not a “game,” it’s biology.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 12:09 AM
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I assure you that women can tell you believe normal social interaction is “bullshit” and a “headache.” Maybe start there.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 10:44 PM
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Women don’t want you to cold approach them in public. That doesn’t mean they are opposed to every man approaching them in every situation. Social skills are important. Being able to read the room and understand green lights in social situations is important. There’s also a huge difference between approaching specifically to ask someone out or hit on them and approaching them to start a conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 10:40 PM
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It’s misogynistic to expect people to date you, it’s not misogynistic to notice a disadvantage. I have never seen a woman say that.
/r/AllPillDebate23/05/23 10:20 PM
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Stop wasting your time with people you think are hot if you don’t have anything else in common. Looks fade.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 06:20 PM
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What kind of stuff do women call discrimination that you believe doesn’t qualify? Just curious—because every MRA I’ve spoken to thinks not getting dates or sex and women being fearful of them in public counts as hatred or “misandry.”
/r/AllPillDebate23/05/23 05:31 PM
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If you think misandry is real, sure, but people who live in reality know that is not true
/r/AllPillDebate23/05/23 04:04 PM
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I wouldn’t call incel culture being mainstream zero effect and it’s definitely not just a “few guys” lol
/r/AllPillDebate23/05/23 04:00 PM
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we would say it’s misandry any time there was criticism You guys already do this
/r/AllPillDebate22/05/23 11:01 PM
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It’s called the halo effect. It makes women more attractive, generally speaking, too.
/r/AllPillDebate22/05/23 07:36 PM
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Yes it’s a wonder they’re angry lol. Sociopaths? Do you mean men with charisma? Sociopaths are a pretty small percentage of the population. If it’s so impossible for normal people to get a girlfriend, why are so many unattractive men in relationships? Of course women will find more attractive men….. more attractive. That doesn’t change a whole lot in the grand scheme of things because those attractive men are only so abundant in number as you’ve pointed out.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 02:57 PM
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Women’s standards being higher benefits women. I’m not really sure why we should go back to the way things were just because it would be more convenient for men who are disinterested in self improvement. I get that it’s a bummer to have to work hard for something that used to be “given” to men as a default but times change. You’re not going to find a whole lot of women who will have sympathy for “I wish I could be far less compelling, attractive, and financially independent and still get a girlf…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 12:57 PM
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The women YOU want might want a masculine man. Not everyone gets a conventional, 10/10 woman. That’s okay. You need to find another weird person with weird interests like your own. Not everyone gets Salma Hayek and that’s not ruining your life, I’m sorry to say!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 12:49 PM
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Really? Are you a lesbian? 🤭 can u explain why that is?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 12:48 PM
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Regarding what exactly? I’m happy to answer if you can clarify what you mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 05:48 AM
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Women had lower standards then because they had pretty limited agency. Can’t really compare.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 04:09 AM
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Can you buy a house and afford to support a family like men could in 1960? Were a large proportion of men developing premature ED and watching porn compulsively in the 1960s? What was the rate of obesity in the 1960s? Was no-fault divorce an option for women in the 1960s? Did men expect sex on the first or second date in the 1960s?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 02:45 AM
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💀
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 12:56 AM
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You’re absolutely right!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 12:43 AM
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Logic is nowhere to be found unfortunately. Men here scream and yell about things that don’t happen (or happen rarely), complain that a dude making 35k a year can’t get a 10/10 woman, and refute any source women happen to provide regarding any topic. It’s really unproductive. I know that insulting men doesn’t help them to be better people, but even having a logically ironclad argument (that they happen not to like) is not enough to get them to be self aware. I understand why so many women are re…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 12:31 AM
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They don’t care. They want what they want/who they want, when they want it. They believe not getting what they want is prejudice or “misandry.” Most of these same guys will try to argue that relationships and sex are basic life necessities.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 08:59 PM
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What’s stopped me is that getting matches and even going on dates with women doesn’t mean they will be a match in actuality. I refuse to date placeholders. Most lesbians have a history with men, 1/4 of them have fucked a man in the last year, we don’t always have similar values, and I like masculine women most often who comprise the smallest portion of the lesbian community. Lesbians also account for about .8% of the population, and I don’t date bisexual women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 08:38 PM
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Well, I’m a lesbian, and dating as a lesbian is significantly harder than dating as a straight man. The odds I will find a suitable partner are significantly less than the odds that you will, and I (for the most part) am a pretty charismatic person with my shit together. It’s not easy for me to insert myself with strangers either. It takes practice.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 08:16 PM
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Plus women look way better with extra weight than men lolol
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 08:12 PM
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Why are you only considering appearance? If that’s the only thing you care about with regards to women, just say that. Women are much more complex. We don’t only factor in appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 08:11 PM
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All of these things can be improved.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 07:58 PM
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This is it
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 07:25 PM
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Feminine interests will help you meet women, not hamper your efforts. I don’t go out and socialize because I prefer being single and am happy without a partner. I will only enter into a relationship with someone who is a good fit. When I’m actively trying, it takes me less than a week to get a date.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 07:25 PM
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Go and socialize. Get a hobby. Meet similarly minded women there.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 06:12 PM
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Why do random women owe you a relationship to let you practice? Sorry, but EVERYONE cares more about their own well-being than making a martyrial sacrifice for a stranger, especially when the benefits given to the stranger are nonessential and often hugely laborious.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 06:10 PM
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Female sexuality is very complex, it’s all very interesting to think about.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 05:34 PM
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I didn’t ask about harassment, I asked about assault. Two separate things. Regardless, acting like every male you meet is a predator until proven otherwise is not only inaccurate but also incredibly toxic. It’s no way to behave. In what way is “acting” like men are POTENTIAL predators harming you? What sort of behavior are you trying to describe? Flinching? Staring apprehensively? Moving to the other side of the street? Being fearful is not hatred, especially since every single woman I know has …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 05:31 PM
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If you’re correct, it should be easy to find a real source instead of an op-ed
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 05:19 PM
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I hate to be crass, but a real dick feels better than a dildo and most bisexual women are not interested in topping. They will try to make even feminine women play a masculine role in and out of the bedroom. I gave one gf the first orgasm she’d ever experienced during sex and she abandoned me for a guy who ended up physically and sexually abusing her—she stayed with him for longer than she stayed with me. It’s not really about the physical sensations feeling better or worse, it’s about biology, …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 05:18 PM
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Opinion editorials are not educational material
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 05:11 PM
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What percentage of women would you estimate are sexually assaulted in a public place? Just curious.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 05:11 PM
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That’s an op Ed which means it doesn’t count as a source, sorry
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 05:06 PM
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I’m a lesbian girl lol I’m not your enemy Bi women prefer men because they like sex with men, they want a normal life, they want to have children, and they don’t want to be “the man” in the relationship. It’s not a bad thing. You should check out the Pew Research study on this, it’s very interesting! It’s the largest, most comprehensive study that’s been done on American lgbt demographics. Also, as an aside, my personal experiences don’t matter in terms of assessing general trends, but I’m a far…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 05:04 PM
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What have I done that’s been hateful? Pray tell!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 04:58 PM
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It’s this
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 04:47 PM
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Thank you for being reasonable LOL honestly one of the only intelligent people on this sub anymore
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 04:45 PM
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This guy (OP) has been following me around for days, misquoting me, misinterpreting me, making multiple posts about the things I’ve said (this one I assume is because I said my best friend is male, lol), and insisting that personal experiences are more absolute than published studies and statistics. Ask me anything!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 04:44 PM
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Most of this is great, but you’re wrong on one point and it’s that bi women dating men is a simple issue of supply and demand. Most bisexual women I’ve met are even more obsessed with men than straight women are and when surveyed, they end up with AND prefer them more strongly. It’s not hard to figure out why.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 04:43 PM
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No lol
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 03:52 PM
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All of the things you’re mentioning are you grasping at straws and coping because most of the statistics I’ve quoted have been measured countless times across multiple geographical areas in multiple different age groups and populations None of what I’ve shared has been an interpretation lol I don’t know what you’re talking about. You’ll have to be more specific I responded to your examples in this paragraph and told you that I had proof to support these claims: The rest of the things you describ…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 02:46 PM
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T h i s is the one. Men refuse to be self aware or go to therapy and complain that using exactly the same tactics, quips, etc. isn’t working.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 02:34 AM
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No, I didn’t agree with you at all, actually. You continually say that scientists are all misandrists and fabricate data to make men look bad. Scientists don’t lie to make men look bad. Men do that by themselves. I am explaining to you why your personal experiences are specific to you and do not apply to most men, because statistics don’t support it. I’m not agreeing that personal experiences are more absolute than published studies that survey a more significant proportion of people. I don’t re…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 01:01 AM
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No you didn’t. You did not explain what misandry was. You rambled about personal experiences. The rest of the things you described don’t happen at a rate high enough to cause concern. Men are punished more severely than women because they are statistically much more violent and reoffend at a higher rate. Men generally should not work with children. Male teachers are more likely to engage in sexually abusive behavior with pre-pubescent students compared to female teachers. Women do better in scho…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 12:13 AM
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I can’t answer that until you explain what counts as misandry. All the man babies in your thread last night insisted fear is misandry. I need to know what counts as misandry.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 12:04 AM
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No. Fear of men is completely rational. 80% of women have been sexually harassed in public. 40% of women have been inappropriately physically touched in public. 30% have experienced stalking or indecent exposure. Seems pretty reasonable to be afraid of strange men to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 11:59 PM
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What is misandry, exactly? Conversely, what is misogyny? What percentage of men do you believe are misogynists? Are they equal?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 11:53 PM
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No, you literally did not answer my question and now you’re following me around. Answer: how should women respond to misogyny if speaking about our experiences and being fearful are not rational responses? What would be an acceptable response? One guy who agreed with your other post said a woman being fearful of him at a gas station was hateful and on the same level as a man routinely abusing and assaulting a woman. LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 11:16 PM
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We’ve been through this spiritualblob! You still can’t answer what a rational response to misogyny is. Put up or shut up
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 11:06 PM
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I’ll do that when men learn to stop speaking for women and belittling women’s experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 11:01 PM
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I don’t say anything to men about their appearances unless they are derogatory toward women. Speak for yourself. You are going way off on a tangent that is completely unrelated to what I’m saying. Men harassing and critiquing women who happen to not be their type is completely unacceptable. I do not care how men perceive me, I want them to leave me the fuck alone. It’s pretty simple stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 09:50 PM
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Dude, it’s everywhere. You just don’t have any clue what it’s like. Men fundamentally cannot understand the extent of criticism women experience for even physical features they cannot help. Weight is the favorite one for sure but beauty standards for women are extremely pervasive. Just because YOU haven’t noticed it doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist where you are. It does.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 09:11 PM
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Work, school, home environment, having to be out in public—these are not things that can necessarily be changed. Stop.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 09:01 PM
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You are literally delusional and have no idea what kind of criticism women are met with on a regular basis. Absolutely zero inkling.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 05:59 PM
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Have you ever opened a book in your life? Just curious.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 04:07 AM
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What are you talking about… Aren’t you blaming women for misogyny? Who is responsible for misandry, then?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 03:41 AM
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what personal failings? can you explain which things or actions are personal failings? you believe that women should never talk about misogyny? very interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 03:20 AM
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you are misunderstanding if misogyny exists, which it does—what, in your view, would be a rational response to it? if being afraid and talking about our experiences is hatred and unacceptable, what is an acceptable response?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 02:40 AM
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“misandry” is a reaction to established oppression, it is not oppression i am aware that telling men this does not make them amenable to being better people, but what will? how do we combat intimate partner violence and sexual assault? why is it unreasonable for women to be afraid of men in light of these things? additionally, how should women respond to misogyny? i would like to know what men think the appropriate response is. clearly you are unhappy with women speaking up about their experienc…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 01:39 AM
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They believe any amount of baseline privilege being shifted or “taken” from them is the same thing as experiencing centuries worth of violence and abuse from the male sex. It’s actually laughable.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 01:35 AM
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U have a very weird syntax and keep using made up words. Is your native language English?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 12:06 AM
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No but I’m very flattered you think I’m significantly older than I am! Not a religious minority either but you admitted you’ve been stalking my comments so I’m sure you can see that I post in lesbian subs I have my nose pierced, no other piercings, and my hair is a natural color. I am not middle class. I am older than 18. You were right about one thing, which you could easily have pulled from my profile https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2013/12/11/chapter-2-equal-treatment-for-men-and-wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 11:45 PM
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Respect is earned. Especially when 1/16 men are rapists and 35% abuse their partners lmao My best friend is a man 🤡 You must be a troll to honestly and genuinely believe that men have a more difficult time in society. Upper middle class background I assume?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 11:18 PM
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Here’s the thing: you can not like women all you want. The snag is that if men are justified in hating women as people, then why are they continuously so desperate for women’s attention, and why do they feel entitled to fuck women? Why does the discussion around “misandry” always circle back to women withholding sex and relationships from you? I’m not spreading lies just because I disagree with you and you really sound like an idiot for continuing to deny the clear proof I have shown you. 1/16 m…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 10:36 PM
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Yeah I’m sure that’s the reason you mentioned it Hot young women aren’t into your 38 year old beer belly either
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 09:53 PM
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No one said anything about weight, but this is a great illustration that men believe there are two types of women: hot ones and smart ones
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 09:50 PM
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Do not call me hon lol gross Where’s the link to the study I don’t care if men internalize what women say to or about them. What do you think women have been enduring since the dawn of civilization? Shame on you for blaming women for the way they’ve reacted to centuries upon centuries of oppression and abuse. Negative comments that women make about men are reactions to systemic abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 09:45 PM
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Nah, most het couples I know aren’t happy because they pick the wrong people for the wrong reasons. Age is irrelevant. ETA that it doesn’t help men are completely unwilling to entertain therapy and working on themselves most of the time
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 09:27 PM
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Women cannot do any systemic damage to men. Misandry to men is women not finding them attractive or wanting to date them. Provide me with one example of systemic misandry that was caused by women. Not by other men, by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 09:26 PM
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Misandry is not real. This buzzword has gained momentum and popularity since feminism became super mainstream. It means nothing of substance.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 08:45 PM
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“Misandry” lol clown town over here I had proof. You didn’t Men say they like smart women, but it’s a theoretical preference only. They polled the men beforehand and when they polled them after speaking to real live women, significantly fewer men wanted to date the smarter women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 08:18 PM
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It’s not my lived experience 😭😂 why do you think so many men excused Donald Trump’s “locker room talk” and said it was harmless? It’s because that is the way men talk to each other about women on a regular basis.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 08:03 PM
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The best reassurances are actions. If she’s drawing parallels between you and an ex there’s probably a reason and she needs to heal, go to therapy, and pick men that better suit her needs
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 08:02 PM
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oh sure, even if it was your friend of 15 years and all the woman had were “assertions and anecdotes?”
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 07:58 PM
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500 people is a perfectly fine sample size. You have a faulty understanding of the way statistics work if you don’t even know what kind of sample size is appropriate That’s just one study, there are plenty more
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 07:30 PM
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Men are aware, they just don’t care. I have seen the way men talk to each other in private. It’s a mask off moment
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 07:29 PM
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no there’s not lol there is no proof for that. 50 years ago maybe. Not now. QAnon being mainstream is a perfect example of this Anyone who prioritizes fiscal politics over social politics and human rights is not someone I would want to associate w
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 07:28 PM
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…. They are real…… Why on earth would you think that personal anecdotes hold more water than published studies lmfao
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 05:49 PM
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I have evidence. I already linked it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 04:52 PM
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Those examples mean nothing because they are not statistics or facts, they’re anecdotes and personal experiences lol I have never been in a relationship with a man, I’ve never slept with one. Not really sure why you’re infantilizing me and making it seem like I’m a bird with a broken wing just because I disagree that men love competent, intelligent women who don’t need them. You are statistically incorrect. Men like these things in theory but not in practice. https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 04:50 PM
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Herein 1/16 men are rapists(and these are just completed rape stats btw not attempts), 13% are physically abusive, 35% are emotionally abusive. 1% of men abuse their partners DAILY. They also hold much more discriminatory attitudes toward gay people than heterosexual women do and vote Republican (and for ppl like Trump) more consistently https://injuryprevention.bmj.com/content/11/3/180#:~:text=Approximately%201%25%20of%20men%20emotionally,or%20both%20(table%202). https://www.pewresearch.org/pol…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 04:46 PM
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btw personal experiences and examples are not a representation of the whole population and it’s very funny that you think young women can take advantage of older men who are already completely financially independent lol educated people tend to prefer to date other educated people, but only half the usa has college degrees and it’s around 20% or less for an advanced degree. men don’t like it when women are smarter than THEM. maybe they don’t want to date someone as dumb as a stump, but they real…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 04:28 PM
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Young women can be and absolutely are cornered. They just have to like something about you first. If there’s nothing that’s likable….
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 04:25 PM
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unga bunga
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 03:03 PM
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Doubt it LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 03:02 PM
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I’m not suppressing anything. I’m very aware of what I’m saying. Being aware of who men are and what they do is not hating them as individuals, but probably as a collective I’m pretty wary of their antics. “You hate men” is definitely the narrative you guys will peddle tho because it upsets you when someone isn’t naive and impressionable. Women have their own issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 03:01 PM
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Yes, statistics
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 06:50 AM
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bitchiness = expecting anything but the absolute bare minimum, no doubt
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 06:26 AM
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nah you are, you just happen to also be cavemen the idea is that your relationships in your youth should teach you something. if you’re incapable of being attracted to women your own age, it says a lot more about you than it does them. it really just means you’re very immature and neglected to grow up while everyone else was working on themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 05:31 AM
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“Claiming” to feel connected lmao I’m dead. The second anyone tries to tell me to get rid of my cats they’re out the damn door, trust and believe that They are more important to me, they were here first, and I committed to take care of them for the rest of their lives. Anyone who hates animals that carry such significance in my life will be a bad fit for me and probably a bad person, considering that there’s no reason to oppose them being around. My home is immaculately kept and cleaned daily.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 05:10 AM
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Absolutely not Women are not blindly loyal to other women the way men are to their friends. Chances are, men have at least one friend who’s a rapist, an abuser, a racist, a homophobe, etc. and all these things are overlooked because “aw yeah, he’s a good guy, good buddy.” Ever wonder why the military and the police force are the way they are? Ever hear the phrase “good old boys club?” Cmon now. Sure women prop each other up and cheer each other on in vapid ways like that, but they’re not coverin…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 04:59 AM
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Men are intimidated by strong, intelligent women because they aren’t naive and they are very aware that men follow their dicks and would to the ends of the earth. They also don’t like feeling like someone knows more or is more competent/capable so it’s not a positive attribute to them if a woman is wicked intelligent Women with less experience are easier to manipulate and corner into a situation they’re less likely to be able to claw out of and they are also much easier to impress. It’s all very…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 04:27 AM
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Glad to hear it but it’s really not like a moral failing on your part if someone doesn’t find you attractive. It’s just life. I think too that men are just now beginning to realize, to a TINY extent, what women go through with regards to looks. We are able to take criticism and rejection based on looks better bc we’ve grown up hearing horrible nasty things from BOTH men and women. The standards are impossible to keep up with.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 12:54 AM
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They have a very hard time when they aren’t fitting a woman’s personal preferences. They freak out. It’s very strange to me. It’s either entitlement, narcissism, insecurity, or a combination of all three.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 12:25 AM
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yep! And men kill and rape women who don’t put out every day. have you heard of femicide? might wanna look those figures up When men stop getting into relationships with women they hate, I’ll change my mind
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 01:47 PM
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if she was so clear she didn’t like you and treated you badly, why did you continue to date her? that reflects poorly on you also your parents are not representative of the whole population. men want a few things: not fat, not smarter than them, puts out, cleans, and cooks. you keep talking about people’s bodies and the way they look as if that’s a good way to choose a partner so I’m sure you feel that way at least to an extent men are entitled in terms of having access to women and controlling …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 01:09 PM
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yes they do and you’re lying if you say otherwise. men do not like women who are smarter or more competent than they are in any arena and, much like yourself, see that as “arrogance.” men believe they are fundamentally better than women. i date women myself and never have i EVER thought that a woman was more pretentious or entitled than a man
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 12:45 PM
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No they don’t lmao that is laughable. Men feel threatened and emasculated by equals.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 12:20 PM
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Women don’t want to be wanted for shallow and infantilizing reasons, which happen to be the primary draws for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 03:51 AM
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None.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 07:09 PM
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No you!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 04:26 AM
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You are so weird. The solution is not for less people to get married. It’s for men to not be such horrible partners and to appreciate their wives for who they are and what they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 02:58 AM
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Luckily for you, fewer women than ever are getting married! Please never date anyone if you see kindness and hopefulness as character flaws , that’s v sociopathic
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 02:48 AM
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You’re actually trying to blame women’s optimism and hopefulness that they’ll be respected instead of blaming men for being horrible inattentive partners Amazing
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 02:44 AM
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I’ll spell it out for ya: men make promises they don’t intend to keep and are largely disappointing partners. They cheat, lie, and prioritize other women over their wives and children. They don’t invest in their wives and children. They don’t know anything about their wives. Men marry for sex, cooking, and cleaning on tap. They get that. Women get married for romance, affection, support, and partnership. Most of the time, they don’t get those things. Financial support, maybe. This isn’t every co…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 02:36 AM
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I have no idea what you’re talking about. Enjoying marriage and wanting to get married does not mean it benefits women more than it does men. It statistically does not. A simple google will help you out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 02:26 AM
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Somebody’s not the sharpest tool in the shed! Women marry for companionship most of the time and end up taking care of someone who was supposed to be her partner and ends up being a giant kid. Also, it wasn’t even /possible/ for women not to get married until very recently. It was a very rigid social expectation and they were houseless, prostitutes, or shunned spinsters otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 01:40 AM
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I have never seen anyone say that looks don’t matter. Get real lmao that is your INTERPRETATION of what is being said
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 12:12 AM
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Marriage has only ever benefited men. When surveyed, women are happier unmarried and die later in life than they would have if married.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 08:00 PM
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Literally he is telling on himself
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 03:10 AM
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Nah man. You can be sexually attracted to someone without considering or seeing them like an object to be used. If you think most women are only their appearances, you’re hanging out and talking to the wrong women—or perhaps they’re the right ones for you. You don’t seem like you think women can be multidimensional.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 02:56 AM
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It didn’t make me sympathetic, but it made me wiser for sure
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 04:35 AM
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I promise u it’s not just your looks
/r/AllPillDebate09/05/23 10:55 PM
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Yes
/r/AllPillDebate08/05/23 03:42 PM
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No, I’m actually not interested in men All the self professed “high quality” men here are just as assholeish about women, their appearances, and what they believe they’re entitled to
/r/AllPillDebate08/05/23 03:20 PM
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I’m not clueless haha but I bet you wish I was It’s way more men in proportion
/r/AllPillDebate08/05/23 02:04 PM
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Doesn’t apply to me
/r/AllPillDebate08/05/23 02:03 PM
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No, “wrong” would mean that it’s hurting other people. It has the potential to, but the bulk of the harm being caused is toward the self. Women never have casual sex for pleasure. It is always about validation and attention, which kinda props up the whole character flaw argument. Even men who are a woman’s sole partner have trouble making them orgasm a very large portion of the time, let alone a casual partner. Have you heard of the orgasm gap? We’re talking about two different things. By your s…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/23 02:20 AM
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No it isn’t very low. Legalization of abortion was recent and it’s becoming illegal now in many states again. Women sleeping around isn’t “wrong,” because people can do whatever they please, but it’s not beneficial for them or their future relationships and it’s a character flaw in my opinion. It always takes an emotional toll and they bring that in to every new relationship they enter. It reduces their ability to properly pair bond with new partners. Sex is always emotionally involved for women…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/23 01:47 AM
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I never mentioned disgust. Some people are fine with it. I just don’t see why we should be made to “admit” that things like sleeping around don’t have effects on women when that is the furthest thing from true. Women risk getting pregnant and being vulnerable for 9 months when they sleep with someone. That is a biological imperative not to sleep around. Men can cause 365+ pregnancies per year and women can only gestate once. It’s also riskier for women to have sex. We contract STIs more easily a…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/23 01:33 AM
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Well, your examples don’t exactly help you. Men and women have different patterns re: sex because it makes way less biological sense for women to sleep around. Women with high body counts are usually traumatized and will make skittish, unstable partners. Women are typically naturally more feminine and men are typically naturally more masculine. There is nothing wrong with acknowledging that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/23 03:59 PM
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This type of thing lends itself to actual sexism and homophobia Stop overthinking it. People do what’s right for them and feels natural. There is a reason we evolved this way. Socialization and biology go hand in hand, you cannot have one without the other. There are outliers, but the majority of women are not masculine and the majority of men are not feminine. There is no reason to be trying to change these things.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/23 03:51 PM
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Most women are far more interesting, attentive, and caring. We’ve got our problems but overall we don’t form relationships the same way men do, which is out of convenience and impulse Men are boring, usually assholes, usually violent and rapey, and only care about like 3 things: that you’re fuckable, agreeable and stupid (read: not smarter than they are)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/23 03:43 AM
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Women and lgbt lmao Yet another deluded moid thinking straight men have a harder time than women and gay people Strange clown world we live in
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/23 03:39 AM
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Men ARE sex crazed with little interest in emotional bonding, that’s why they all end up with partners they hate
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 11:28 PM
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This is why I didn’t bother in the first place Men all think their opinions are the default for insight and correctness so it’s pointless to provide any sources, they will all be refuted for retarded reasons Men are very unga bunga and project it onto other people is the point. I do not feel bad for losers who can’t find a partner. You have half the world’s population to choose from. That means you’re doing something wrong.
/r/AllPillDebate06/05/23 10:32 PM
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Yes! Having eyes and being observant
/r/AllPillDebate06/05/23 09:03 PM
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How is that proof?
/r/AllPillDebate06/05/23 09:03 PM
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Sure https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8133465/ https://akjournals.com/view/journals/1126/12/1/article-p1.xml https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0022103106000345?via%3Dihub Here’s a tip: the reason “incels” and “average men” are having issues finding a mate is that they lack desirability in every area and have atrocious personalities. If you don’t have a lot of money and you don’t look like a sex god, nobody is going to put up with you being a boring, obsessive ass…
/r/AllPillDebate06/05/23 04:18 PM
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Proof is that I am one and date them and I don’t need to pull any study because it’s been proven and exemplified many many many times. Looks are not the only important thing to women. Stop projecting your own thoughts and feelings onto them and wise up.
/r/AllPillDebate06/05/23 02:29 PM
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No, they do want to trap them, they just don’t make enough money to do it, which is another reason they’re all resentful as fuck. It actually annoys men that women work now because they have to behave more. Looks are really not the most important thing. It’s important not to be repulsive and to be clean/well-kept, but attraction for women is a lot more complex than that. The only things men care about are cooking, cleaning, and sex on tap from women who aren’t fat, who aren’t smarter than them, …
/r/AllPillDebate05/05/23 11:54 PM
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Ah yes, because obese is the worst thing a person can possibly be
/r/AllPillDebate05/05/23 11:47 PM
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I don’t really see what’s wrong with this. If you don’t have the ability to provide for the entire household, you need to stop expecting a 1950s submissive, personality-less wife. The bare minimum is becoming less acceptable but in light of that, instead of actually improving themselves and their resources, most men in their mid-20s are still living at home with mommy and daddy. Do you want someone to be trapped under your roof because they rely on your income, or do you want to find an actual m…
/r/AllPillDebate05/05/23 10:49 PM
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No that isn’t why! You have 50% of the world’s population to find a gf from, lesbians have less than 1%, plus no ability to provide biological children or any sort of social normalcy. The world is your oyster.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 12:56 AM
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I love you downvoting my comments and doing exactly what I was talking about omg you guys are such sad little whiners it’s unbelievable
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 11:56 PM
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Men are actually not the only people who exist, I was referring to gay women too lol But no you’re wrong. Gay men do not have more abundant relationships, they have more abundant sex. It is very difficult for a gay man to get into a long-lasting partnership. It’s worse tenfold for lesbians.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 10:51 PM
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Men have a really hard time when they don’t fit someone’s preferences. Women are better about being rejected when someone’s not into us. Men can care about other things besides sex but it’s definitely the most important thing. They get married for cooking, cleaning, and sex on tap. If they could have all these things without a commitment they would do it. Men don’t care about anything re: qualities except that you’re not fat, you’re submissive, and you’re not smarter than them. They generally do…
/r/AllPillDebate03/05/23 10:06 PM
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I’m not disagreeing with you 😅
/r/AllPillDebate03/05/23 09:22 PM
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Socialization and biology go hand in hand, people! Can’t have one without the other.
/r/AllPillDebate03/05/23 09:15 PM
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Right! I agree with you.
/r/AllPillDebate03/05/23 09:10 PM
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Then they end up on the dead bedrooms subreddit and insist they didn’t see it coming! They have no idea why! People really really need to marry people they actually like, both personality wise and physically. That is the biggest problem. It’s not all about looks because you’re right, they do change, sex drives lower, etc. Men form relationships out of impulse and convenience. They do this with their friends too, just in a different way. Usually they are friends with people they’ve been friends w…
/r/AllPillDebate03/05/23 08:15 PM
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It definitely is the norm. A guy on the regular purple pill subreddit tried to say expecting a bf to know those things is unrealistic because it’s “not how men work.” My view is that if they can remember stupid pointless sports stats they can remember things about their wives, but apparently this is a controversial viewpoint lmfao 😭
/r/AllPillDebate03/05/23 07:55 PM
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Men have a really hard time when they don’t fit someone’s preferences. Women are better about being rejected when someone’s not into us. Men can care about other things besides sex but it’s definitely the most important thing. They get married for cooking, cleaning, and sex on tap. If they could have all these things without a commitment they would do it. Men don’t care about anything re: qualities except that you’re not fat, you’re submissive, and you’re not smarter than them. They generally do…
/r/AllPillDebate03/05/23 07:16 PM
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They would not be content with that Men here genuinely and honestly believe that they have a harder time than gay people dating which is laughable
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 06:15 PM
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Aw yeah! Fortunately a negligible amount of people get assaulted due to misandry !
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 09:10 PM
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It’s a slippery slope with you all, unfortunately I’m glad men staring at women in the gym are getting shamed. I literally never look at anybody else in the gym because I am there to work out, not ogle people
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 05:26 PM
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I bet you wish I would!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 04:55 PM
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It’s not really the looking that’s the problem! It’s assuming that it’s welcomed and wanted We don’t want any comments, we don’t want you to touch us, we don’t want any photos taken, we don’t want you following us, and we don’t want you to leer and stare for extended periods of time I really don’t understand what isn’t computing here
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 04:37 PM
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The solution is very easy: just don’t say anything
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 04:28 PM
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Yay Canada!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 04:06 PM
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Existing is not showing off lmao she’s not strutting around naked in public putting on a show specifically for male attention like u seem to be fantasizing that she is ? God almighty
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 03:55 PM
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Yes there is, when it’s unwanted That’s the crux of this whole issue that you guys seem to not be understanding very well—it’s okay for you to express these things when it is WANTED contact. Women don’t see strange men ogling and panting over them as a compliment, most times, as hard as that is to believe
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 03:49 PM
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Alllllllllll of this
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 07:02 AM
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Lol being rebuffed is not being shamed Men get away with sexual abuse on a routine basis because male sexuality is…… shamed? Men are held to much lower standards of sexual behavior and control because male sexuality is shamed? Nah, I don’t think so haha. Nobody is going to shame you if you don’t push for something a woman doesn’t want. Keep your hands and your eyes to yourself like a civilized person.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 07:00 AM
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None of the things she described are showing off wtf
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 06:58 AM
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Yes it is automatically objectifying her lol especially if you don’t know anything else about her What else is that
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 06:56 AM
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I’ll be more charitable when men stop saying things like “old enough to bleed old enough to breed”, when the “teen” porn category isn’t the most popular, and when child sexual assault statistics come down Autogynephiles are a specific type of trans person. They are male and attracted to women. Usually before they transition they are seemingly “normal” men. Homosexual transsexuals are the opposite and what I described previously. They are gay prior to transition and experience a lot of adversity …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 08:37 PM
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Not all of them are, but a very large portion of them are and in autogynephiles it’s much more common to have strange sexual fetishes. There have been many many reports of them going into women’s restrooms and masturbating/exposing themselves to women. The best way to combat this is to delineate between who has real gender dysphoria and wants to blend in(very easy to tell, usually they are feminine gay men pre-transition who only like men or masculine lesbians pre-transition who only like women)…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 05:18 PM
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It’s whatever suits their complaint at any given time. I’m always curious why men are so desperate to fuck women they hate—the hatred, spite and resentment are all very plain. Sad for them!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 06:44 PM
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No, I’m not amenable to think otherwise because I’ve lived it and been around it. I’m a lesbian, unlike the “lesbian” couple you know. Those women are bisexual with a preference for other women, which is very common. Lesbians are very rare. Women do have a more “fluid” sexuality than men in terms of arousal patterns, but someone’s behavior is much more important than what they tell you. For example, I would never last in the dating scene if I believed every woman who has a laundry list of male e…
/r/AllPillDebate28/04/23 02:57 AM
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The only trans people who are treated better and experience relatively “normal” sex after transition are homosexual transsexual males. No one else.
/r/AllPillDebate28/04/23 12:09 AM
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No man. Nobody chooses their sexuality. There is no study or proof to back this bilge up. You do it if it’s possible. Choose to be gay. People who are saying it’s a choice are either deeply in denial and afraid of their own sexuality or are “choosing” it for political reasons rather than feeling that way organically, and that is not a sexual orientation, it just harms actual gay people.
/r/AllPillDebate28/04/23 12:08 AM
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Depends. Do you only help women you find hot out, or do you help your family and friends too?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 09:15 PM
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I completely agree, it’s terrible and very narcissistic. Would not wanna be around this woman in a million years. I just wanted to comment with regards to the opposite, because it actually does happen more often the other direction and not everyone reading this will know that. Pill subs can often get a little…. skewed
/r/AllPillDebate22/04/23 02:54 AM
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No, it’s not that—it’s that you’re using sources from a Mormon-funded organization and not citing actual research, just opinion pieces. There is no actual study refuting the 6x claim. It’s the only widespread study that’s been published on it. That WaPo article is paywalled also btw so can’t even read it if I wanted Being male and having an opinion does not make u correct
/r/AllPillDebate22/04/23 02:31 AM
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Do you know what Deseret News is? Lmao
/r/AllPillDebate22/04/23 02:13 AM
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Are you aware that many more men leave their wives when their wives become ill than the opposite?
/r/AllPillDebate22/04/23 01:15 AM
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“Working on it” = bare minimum “Trying” = being boring and not expanding any of their interests and hoping it changes
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 08:00 PM
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yep
/r/AllPillDebate18/04/23 12:24 AM
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Oh yeah history really agrees with you that women are more self centered than men and have trouble valuing others
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/23 05:06 PM
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yep lol they wanna be the head of the household….. what household……
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 08:14 PM
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😭 thank u
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 05:40 PM
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One freaking hundred
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 12:03 AM
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Lmao wow this post sure is a way to make fat ugly girls into bad people huh Absolutely anything to rationalize you naturally respecting and treating attractive people better so you don’t feel bad about it Look here, you only notice unattractive women’s flaws for that reason. Pretty people are just as, if not more, flawed—they don’t have to introspect as much
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 12:02 AM
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If you dislike sluts quit panting over them and sleeping with them
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/23 07:21 PM
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